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<v Speaker 1>Report to Transporter Room three.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Brian, here, I need you in Transporter Room three.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Captain. Meet me in Transporter Room three.

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<v Speaker 1>Join us in Transporter Room three. Captain. We're heading for

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<v Speaker 1>Transporter Room three. This is your favorite transport room, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Transporter Room three with your hosts, Phil

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<v Speaker 1>Perello and Soak Laura Energize.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the first episode of Transporter Room three,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty six edition. Mister Scott, how are you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good, Phil. It's twenty twenty six. We've got the

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<v Speaker 1>new Star Trek TV show. Yes, we do to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Starfleet Academy.

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<v Speaker 2>We do, and I think my opinion of it will

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<v Speaker 2>surprise our listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen. Yeah, I mean, I don't know how to break

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<v Speaker 1>this to our listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys are gonna want to sit down. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>got you need to say, in a beanbag chair or something.

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<v Speaker 1>So, I mean, I was really shocked at the texts

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<v Speaker 1>I was receiving from you, Phil, how emotional you were

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<v Speaker 1>about this situation. I was worried. I almost I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to contact your wife Rachel when I was reading

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<v Speaker 1>these texts, Like, I was like, is Phil. Okay, because

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<v Speaker 1>it seems as though correct me if I'm wrong, seems

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<v Speaker 1>as though Phil likes Starfleet Academy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I do. And that's all I'm prepared to say

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<v Speaker 2>about it. I'm not taking questions at this time.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta say more. This whole episode about that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what. Okay, here's the deal for Christmas. I

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<v Speaker 2>put it on and I was like, what, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>feeling it this The opening, uh, stuff was a little

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<v Speaker 2>clunky with Holly Hunter and Paul Giamati and the actress

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<v Speaker 2>from Orphan Black whose name I'm blanking on, Tatianasslani.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'm not buying that the Federation would

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<v Speaker 2>separate a family like this, and then they tried to

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<v Speaker 2>explain that with some adr dialogue later when she's when

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<v Speaker 2>Holly Hunter's character is walking around the arboretum. Yes, right, yeah, back, like,

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<v Speaker 2>still doesn't That's clearly they're addressing the note on that

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<v Speaker 2>right still doesn't make sense, especially if you lost your

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<v Speaker 2>own son in a field situation. Yeah, why would you

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<v Speaker 2>separate another mother from hers?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Well, I guess it's well, maybe we should back

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<v Speaker 1>up a bit because this is kind of I think

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<v Speaker 1>maybe going to be one of the things that one

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<v Speaker 1>of the through lines through the whole season at least.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So let's tell everyone listening that we're reviewing the

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<v Speaker 1>first two episodes of Starfleet Academy.

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<v Speaker 2>Get too ahead myself here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just you know, because we'll be talking full spoilers,

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<v Speaker 1>so FYI, and we're doing the first two because those

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<v Speaker 1>are the first two that come out this week. They're

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<v Speaker 1>both dropping on January fifteenth, which will be this should

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<v Speaker 1>this pod episode of the podcast should be posting the

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<v Speaker 1>morning after they drop. So f YI, is the first

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<v Speaker 1>two Kids These Days is the pilot episode, directed by

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Kurtzman. It's basically a movie or well it's like

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<v Speaker 1>an hour and fifteen minutes. And then Beta Test is

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<v Speaker 1>the second episode of the season, also directed by Alex Kurtzman.

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<v Speaker 1>So just FYI, if you guys don't want any spoilers,

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<v Speaker 1>go watch him then come back here. But yeah, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of what you're talking about with the Holly

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<v Speaker 1>Hunter and her stuff with her son, I agree with you, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I I feel like all the flashback stuff in that

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<v Speaker 1>first episode when we see the young kid and Tatiana

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<v Speaker 1>Maslani like that stuff. It felt all felt a little

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<v Speaker 1>rough to me, and and yeah, it's it feels a

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<v Speaker 1>she that that she would be willing to basically separate

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<v Speaker 1>to be like a desperate situation for the Tatiana character, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like they were they were living, they're living in the

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<v Speaker 1>time of the Burn where they didn't have starship travel

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<v Speaker 1>and they was they were starving. So she put she

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<v Speaker 1>throws in with Paul Giamatti's bad guy noose Braka and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>she's trying to feed her child and herself. Right. So

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<v Speaker 1>then for Holly Hunter's captain character whose name I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I'll ever be able to pronounce, for her to

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<v Speaker 1>then like throw Tatiana's character into the slammer, that seems extreme, right,

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<v Speaker 1>a little little yeah, and it feels a little on

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<v Speaker 1>in this day and age.

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<v Speaker 2>When the show was pitched and developed, we weren't in

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<v Speaker 2>a fascist country at the time, so yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>think they were ahead of the time there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So but I agree with you that that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like didn't I mean, like I think the actress is good,

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<v Speaker 1>Tatiana Masslani. I hope I'm pronounce.

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<v Speaker 2>They are amazing. Yeah, and they're brief but impactful scenes.

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<v Speaker 2>I and that child after took, Yeah he's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. I like that little teddy bear that he

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<v Speaker 2>That was an interesting touch.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and uh and Giamati. The trailers were giving us,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, campy bad performance vibes. I mean he's chewing

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that's that's what he's Yeah, that's what he's

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<v Speaker 1>going for though, right, I hate him Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like he's a good villain.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And they say something in the second episode, Holly

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<v Speaker 1>And and I thought that was interesting. But it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>very manipulative and like he's yeah, he's cracking jokes and

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<v Speaker 1>he's funny and stuff, but he's also really evil and

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<v Speaker 1>bad and and manipulative. So I think we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>a problem talking about this episode. But I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>anyone's names except yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just so the main character is Caleb Muir.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, he's the one who.

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<v Speaker 2>Was separated from his daughter, kind of from his mother,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of becomes a curly haired, long haired space pirate

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<v Speaker 2>right right, right, snatched and pulled into Starfleet Academy. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>the show tries to do its version of Pike recruiting Kirk.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, right, right right? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>This this actor Sandro I. I hope I'm not mispronouncing

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<v Speaker 2>his name, but I might be a Sandro Roasta the brooding,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, squinty acting of the pirate part. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about this guy. And then once he

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<v Speaker 2>gets in the Starfleet Academy charisma for days and I

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<v Speaker 2>was hooked.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a funny go ahead, Scott, it's a funny moment,

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<v Speaker 1>right because he doesn't he doesn't want to put on

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<v Speaker 1>a uniform, he doesn't want to cut his hair, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he just walks through the portal. He doesn't realize it,

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<v Speaker 1>just it all happenstaneously.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. It's great, Which is that's my new favorite star

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<v Speaker 2>Trek Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it's cool, right, Yeah, I wish I wish I

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<v Speaker 1>had that. My wife the other day was like, you

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<v Speaker 1>need a haircut so badly, and like I hate going

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<v Speaker 1>to get my haircut, and I'm dealing with it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like a fifty to fifty chance that they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get it right or not. And yeah, like if I

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<v Speaker 1>could just walk through a portal downstairs, like heck, you

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<v Speaker 1>know so, but it's a fun moment, right, He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh shit, like you know, but you're right, there's something flips.

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<v Speaker 1>I think. So what we were saying about how the

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<v Speaker 1>flashback stuff I didn't think works that well and isn't

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<v Speaker 1>the best way to start the series off. Once they

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<v Speaker 1>get to the academy and he yeah, he gets his

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<v Speaker 1>hair cut coincidentally at that moment, but once he starts

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<v Speaker 1>to interact with the other cadets, that's when the pilot

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<v Speaker 1>really started to take off from me, and I really

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<v Speaker 1>started to enjoy it. And I think that I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I've only seen the first two. You've seen the first six. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're only talking about the first two here. But like,

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<v Speaker 1>I really like this cast of kids too, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're fun, Like I like the interactions.

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<v Speaker 2>The chemistry is great, amazing casting one of the I

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<v Speaker 2>would say this is one of the best cast shows.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like it's right up there with DS nine Discovery. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like some really great personalities.

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<v Speaker 1>Great personalities. Yeah, the Star Treks sometimes gets the casting wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think Star Trek Enterprise is an example of

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<v Speaker 1>a show that ye didn't quite pull it off in

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<v Speaker 1>a few you know. But these guys right off the bat,

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<v Speaker 1>I like all of them, you know, And uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>show doesn't seem to want to take itself too seriously either.

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<v Speaker 2>And and at the same time it does tackle serious

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<v Speaker 2>relatable topics that these students would deal with. I gotta

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<v Speaker 2>give the actress who plays Genesis, Ah, who's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like the snarky, cool student who maybe is potential love

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<v Speaker 2>interest for Caleb or maybe they just have Sparkage's sense,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. She plays Genesis. It's Bella Shepherd. They have

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<v Speaker 2>a really natural acting talent, Like I can see where

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<v Speaker 2>this goes, Like I dig this. Yeah, yeah, it's really well.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just so impressed by all the performances.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that that actress. So there's a moment in

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<v Speaker 1>episode two where Caleb is kind of with the we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about episode two in a few minutes, but Caleb

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of flirting with this other character and there's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a look in the Genesis's eyes

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<v Speaker 1>of like she's jealous, I think, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I think so yeah, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So well you want to talk about the other cadets

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<v Speaker 1>real quick.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, I'm a big, huge fan of the actor that

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<v Speaker 2>plays Sam.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, carries Brooks, And again we're probably mispronouncing everyone's names.

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<v Speaker 2>No offense to that at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we apologize if they're listening.

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<v Speaker 2>But if they are, I apologize.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean they're not listening? I thought Paramount

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<v Speaker 1>Plus made them all listen to. I think Anthon Mount's

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<v Speaker 2>I know he's listening.

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<v Speaker 1>So Sam stands for a series acclamation mill I think,

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<v Speaker 1>m hm. Basically, Sam is a hologram as well. We

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<v Speaker 1>find out right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the first hologram to enroll in Starfleet.

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<v Speaker 1>Academy, right, yeah, which is interesting because obviously the doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Picardo is back, you know, the O G hologram,

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<v Speaker 1>and he doesn't even notice. He doesn't even Like in

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<v Speaker 1>the first episode, Sam says something like the Sam's from

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<v Speaker 1>a planet of holograms or something, right, right, and the

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<v Speaker 1>doctor doesn't even know about that, Like he's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>surprised to hear.

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<v Speaker 2>It, right about that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I'm hoping they dig into that more as

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<v Speaker 1>we go along in the season. I'm assuming Sam and

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<v Speaker 1>the doctor will continue to have some kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>dynamic vie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Right, but you catch the nod to Voyager when

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<v Speaker 2>the doc Doc Zimmerman comes in.

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<v Speaker 1>No, well, he definitely says, please state the nature of

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<v Speaker 1>like it's a lot of trekkies and fans in attendance.

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<v Speaker 1>There were people in costume and stuff. Uh and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about this before, right, like, it's not a

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<v Speaker 2>I get to talk to my sibling in law about that.

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<v Speaker 2>But their behavior, my sibling, my sibling in law is

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<v Speaker 2>And I just like, what how fully formed this actor's

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<v Speaker 2>way the character came on so confidently, assured and all

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<v Speaker 2>that it reminded me of you know how in those

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<v Speaker 2>early episodes of the original Trek, Spock was Spock you know, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>or on Stranging worlds Anson Mount was Pike yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>that story plays out and the cleanon who wants to

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, he a doctor or a scientist. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>Because there's a nod you don't usually hear a Cleon.

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<v Speaker 2>That made me think. I thought that was brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Civilization is on war and blood lust, and you want

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<v Speaker 2>lives instead of take well the great idea, great idea,

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<v Speaker 2>and how that outcast vibe, you know, that war type

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<v Speaker 1>where he first meets Caleb. They kind of all are

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<v Speaker 1>just a great moment, and I love the friendship that's

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<v Speaker 1>I guess is Jay den Krog played for Karim again Diane.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the other guy who I just mentioned is uh,

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<v Speaker 1>That's the guy who's like that ship the It's funny,

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<v Speaker 1>but this show, like, I don't even know what these

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<v Speaker 1>alien races are. I'm reading here. He's a Keonian cadet

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the that's the guy who is the shape shifter, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's who that is who he turns out

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<v Speaker 1>he comes across as the jerk at the academy. He does,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's part of the group too. Actually he's one

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<v Speaker 1>day in the end, right, And I like that. I

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<v Speaker 1>like that, serve Yeah yeah, So so okay, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>we're kind of swooning over this show right now. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone listening, I'm just gonna remind you Phil is a

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<v Speaker 2>Which is shock. That's the biggest twist I think of

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<v Speaker 2>any Star Trek, even when Sessca was revealed to be

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<v Speaker 2>a Cardashian. Here's the thing, though, I stand by. It

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<v Speaker 2>makes logic hard to buy that they would send out

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. I agree to.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a fleet of starships surrounding their big ass school.

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<v Speaker 2>And the first time they take the school out, what happens?

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<v Speaker 2>It gets shot up. These that would be like me

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<v Speaker 2>and rolling at Florida State for four years and they

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<v Speaker 2>told my parents, I'm sorry, something happened to your kid.

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<v Speaker 2>He got sucked out of an ill luck because we

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<v Speaker 1>During orientation, during for orientation.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I agree, it doesn't. I agree, but what

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<v Speaker 2>about the point we're training you. I understood it's thin,

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<v Speaker 2>they're just the just justification is thin for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, But I was glad to see an episode

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<v Speaker 1>two they don't go anywhere. They just they're in San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 1>that the ship does not take off, yes and right, so,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was glad for that. So I'm hoping that

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<v Speaker 1>the show. I'm hoping the show finds a balance and

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<v Speaker 1>that we don't feel the need to go into space

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<v Speaker 1>every episode, because another thing about Episode one that I

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<v Speaker 1>like the Star Trek Discovery, Strange New Worlds need to

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<v Speaker 1>like have this some crazy action scenes, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>and then the stuff, you know, the big fight with

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<v Speaker 1>cgi Spectacle Abrams style. You know, Kurtsman likes to do

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff, and it's like and you know what, I

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<v Speaker 1>get it. You get they're gonna have some of that,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, you know, I mean, it's fine here or there,

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<v Speaker 1>but I hope the show is not gonna feel the

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<v Speaker 1>need to do that every week, and episode two doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have any of that. So I was glad. Episode two

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<v Speaker 1>is like a character story basically, right, like it's yes,

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<v Speaker 1>So I was glad for that. But I think we

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<v Speaker 1>do have to talk about Holly Hunter because I'm lukewarm

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<v Speaker 1>on her performance. Sure, I think she's maybe the week.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say she's the one who's the problem,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's she's miscast maybe, I don't know. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure what it is. What do you think is she

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<v Speaker 1>It's like she's just not the right person for this role.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I like what she's doing really

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<v Speaker 1>with the we see in episode two. She's got this

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<v Speaker 1>thing about walking around barefoot, right, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>They're making her the cool hip teacher a little different,

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<v Speaker 2>little quirky, right, got a little bit of Gynan, Yeah

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<v Speaker 2>vibe in terms of the character right like this they

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<v Speaker 2>can seemingly live forever, these characters. Yes, And I like

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<v Speaker 2>that they were living on Bajor, Yeah for a time.

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<v Speaker 2>I also love the nas to DS nine that this

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<v Speaker 2>in the chair hugging it like it's kind of comical.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, A little bit like like it doesn't look comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>to me when she she curls up into the chair

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<v Speaker 2>Such a nerdy you know, yeah, nitpick, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and it's been done before, by the way, Vash

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<v Speaker 1>sat in Captain Picard's chair one time and curled up

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<v Speaker 1>in it. But she took her shoes off, and she

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<v Speaker 1>looked very comfy in Captain Picard's chair. But when Captain

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<v Speaker 1>what the fuck is her name? Captain Aki, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>is that? Does that sound right Hollyhunter's character Captain Aki

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<v Speaker 1>ak e. Yeah, so we'll get it eventually, by the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the season, we'll know it. But when yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean to get back to what we were saying

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<v Speaker 1>earlier too, Like, I think she saddled a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>regrets that doing that, and she resents Starfleet for being

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<v Speaker 1>in a place that made her do that or enabled

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<v Speaker 1>her to do that, But like, it's still a little

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the redemption arc they're sitting up is a little tough.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't quite shake hands.

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<v Speaker 1>But then there's also times where she just I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's something about just her dialogue reads. It doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 1>hate saying it because obviously she's a great actress, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, speaking of the premiere, I think they had

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<v Speaker 1>her sitting next to Kate Mulgrew. Kate Mulgrew was at

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<v Speaker 1>the point the hell out, yeah, and she I think

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<v Speaker 1>they were sitting next to each other. When they did that,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone had to get up and one of the time

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<v Speaker 1>and we had to applaud for them, you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>was Holly Hunter and then Kate Mulgrew. It seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>they were right near each other. But when you think

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<v Speaker 1>about like Mulgrew, like, you know, she she just and

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<v Speaker 1>she dove in into doing Voyager at the last minute,

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<v Speaker 1>but she she never seemed to feel out of place

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<v Speaker 1>or anything. It's almost like Holly Hunter's more like this

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<v Speaker 1>the Avery Brooks of Captains, because, like you were saying earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>to She's trying to find her place a little bit too,

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<v Speaker 2>So such, I can't regrudge anyone jumping into this like that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you know, we'll see where it goes, right like.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, Scott like. As we've talked about before,

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<v Speaker 2>and as some of our listeners have pointed out over

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<v Speaker 2>the years, Star Trek episode ones are not as strongest suit.

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<v Speaker 1>That is quite true. And that's quite true.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a thing someone someone someone sub stack that I follow.

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<v Speaker 2>They kicked out their review for it with really a

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<v Speaker 2>really good line. Star Trekers are franchise that famously tends

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<v Speaker 2>to fumble the beginnings of great things. It's one of

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<v Speaker 2>Encounter at for a point in eighty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's valid. Yeah, click, you could argue. Even

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<v Speaker 1>even the cage. You could argue because I didn't even

420
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<v Speaker 1>get get the go ahead to be air.

421
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<v Speaker 2>Pilot was so good that they had to redo it

422
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<v Speaker 2>right first time in TV history.

423
00:24:38.480 --> 00:24:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Pilot was Yes. Yeah, so no, that's a fair point.

424
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<v Speaker 1>That's why I was so happy to watch and I

425
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<v Speaker 1>watched episode two because of you. But you were texting

426
00:24:46.599 --> 00:24:50.279
<v Speaker 1>me like you were basically like live texting me. You're right,

427
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<v Speaker 1>I know.

428
00:24:50.720 --> 00:24:54.759
<v Speaker 2>I that's my tism. I apologize for that.

429
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<v Speaker 1>No, it's fine. They got me. No, No, it didn't

430
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<v Speaker 1>bother me. It got me excited to go back and

431
00:25:00.599 --> 00:25:03.400
<v Speaker 1>want to keep watching. And that's why I was. I

432
00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:07.319
<v Speaker 1>was so happy that the second episode I enjoyed a lot,

433
00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:10.839
<v Speaker 1>and I think I think you did as well. So

434
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<v Speaker 1>you want to talk about that one a little bit.

435
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<v Speaker 2>The Beta test, Yeah, I preferred that one was a

436
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<v Speaker 2>little smoother.

437
00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:20.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree.

438
00:25:20.319 --> 00:25:24.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the opening Kids These Days, great title. By the way,

439
00:25:25.160 --> 00:25:29.279
<v Speaker 2>it's the flashbacks are a little clunky. Yeah, as we

440
00:25:29.319 --> 00:25:33.839
<v Speaker 2>talked about. But Beta test, I I was hoping for,

441
00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:37.640
<v Speaker 2>like you know that there's that ceremony or not not Ceramon,

442
00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:41.079
<v Speaker 2>there's that tradition of getting the crew together stuff. Yeah,

443
00:25:42.599 --> 00:25:46.599
<v Speaker 2>it was a little dull, minus the charisma of the actors.

444
00:25:47.480 --> 00:25:51.240
<v Speaker 2>Beta test getting them all into their groove and Beta

445
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<v Speaker 2>test has am I am? I right with this one, Scott.

446
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<v Speaker 2>Do we see people climbing gym ropes or things like

447
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<v Speaker 2>that in Beta test?

448
00:25:59.079 --> 00:26:01.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's Jim ropes as much as

449
00:26:01.079 --> 00:26:03.480
<v Speaker 1>like just like going through the paces of day to

450
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<v Speaker 1>day academy physical fitness.

451
00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, okay, that was all right, that was cool.

452
00:26:09.160 --> 00:26:14.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and science class as well. Yeah yeah yeah.

453
00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:17.119
<v Speaker 2>I wanted their hoodies.

454
00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:22.680
<v Speaker 1>There's some cool Yeah, there's some cool looks. Yeah yeah yeah.

455
00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:24.480
<v Speaker 2>What was your vibe with it? How do you? How

456
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<v Speaker 2>do you like it? Well?

457
00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:27.839
<v Speaker 1>I liked it. I mean I like the So they

458
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<v Speaker 1>bring this and again, so this is another one of

459
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<v Speaker 1>our main characters. I guess this this this Beta's Beta

460
00:26:35.920 --> 00:26:44.000
<v Speaker 1>zoid girl. Who oh, I guess it's Tarima played by

461
00:26:44.079 --> 00:26:47.319
<v Speaker 1>Zoe Steiner. Again if if we're pronouncing correctly, I don't know.

462
00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:51.079
<v Speaker 1>I liked her and I liked her her dynamic with Caleb.

463
00:26:51.640 --> 00:26:53.319
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was it was cool. They have a night,

464
00:26:53.359 --> 00:26:56.440
<v Speaker 1>they have a fun meet cute outside where he's trying

465
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<v Speaker 1>to make a run for it, and I I think,

466
00:27:01.559 --> 00:27:04.319
<v Speaker 1>is her does she has one of the same titles

467
00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:08.200
<v Speaker 1>as Loxana Troy, like hold her of the fifth Chalice

468
00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:10.359
<v Speaker 1>of Beta zed or some shit. I feel like she

469
00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:13.720
<v Speaker 1>mentions it's one point that she has she has some

470
00:27:13.839 --> 00:27:19.000
<v Speaker 1>betas betazoid like royalty title, and I thought it might

471
00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:22.319
<v Speaker 1>have been yeah, so, but I like them too. But

472
00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:24.519
<v Speaker 1>I like that the two of them together, I thought

473
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<v Speaker 1>that very much.

474
00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:27.559
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, chemistry, yeah.

475
00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:29.000
<v Speaker 1>And then you know they managed to it's a little

476
00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:33.079
<v Speaker 1>bit of a story B story, which is which is

477
00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:36.200
<v Speaker 1>always nice to see in Star Trek, and so they've

478
00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:39.480
<v Speaker 1>got the I guess. The A story is, well, it's

479
00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:42.839
<v Speaker 1>a story B story, C story, I guess because it's

480
00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:45.319
<v Speaker 1>sort of Caleb having to still try to figure out

481
00:27:45.319 --> 00:27:48.440
<v Speaker 1>how he can fit in and get along with Holly Hunter.

482
00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:54.079
<v Speaker 1>And then it's B story his like newly developed relationship

483
00:27:54.079 --> 00:27:57.279
<v Speaker 1>with the Betazoid girl. And then c story is like this,

484
00:27:57.839 --> 00:28:01.720
<v Speaker 1>these like negotiations with with the p and it Betazoid

485
00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:06.519
<v Speaker 1>representatives who I guess have corded themselves off from the

486
00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:09.160
<v Speaker 1>rest of the galaxy since the burn, and they're trying

487
00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:12.839
<v Speaker 1>to get them to join the Federation again. So all

488
00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:15.440
<v Speaker 1>three of those storylines, I thought like worked well in

489
00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:18.799
<v Speaker 1>concert with one another, right. I was a little confused

490
00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:20.880
<v Speaker 1>at first, but was like her dad, who's like I guess,

491
00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:24.799
<v Speaker 1>I guess he's the leader of Betazoid Beta's ed but

492
00:28:25.160 --> 00:28:29.200
<v Speaker 1>he's deaf, I guess, is the idea And I thought so, Yeah,

493
00:28:29.240 --> 00:28:32.000
<v Speaker 1>But at first, I was like, oh, wait, are they

494
00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:34.200
<v Speaker 1>all did they not speak anymore?

495
00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:36.759
<v Speaker 2>I was. I was a little confused by that too.

496
00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:39.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and I think I guess what it turns

497
00:28:39.079 --> 00:28:41.559
<v Speaker 1>out is just that that particular character is deaf, which

498
00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:45.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, there it's it's modern era Kurtzman star Trek.

499
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:48.200
<v Speaker 1>They're always being representative of different groups, which you know, good,

500
00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:50.319
<v Speaker 1>good for them. But I was just a little confused

501
00:28:50.319 --> 00:28:53.160
<v Speaker 1>by it at first. But but you know, I thought

502
00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:55.480
<v Speaker 1>it was cool. That's the other thing about this. You

503
00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:57.759
<v Speaker 1>tell me what you think. But like it seems as

504
00:28:57.759 --> 00:29:00.319
<v Speaker 1>though the show is maybe gonna deal with a lot

505
00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:03.200
<v Speaker 1>of the loose ends that Discovery didn't bother to deal with,

506
00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:06.240
<v Speaker 1>like about the burn and stuff. Yeah, but like there

507
00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:08.240
<v Speaker 1>was always this big question, all right, so what So

508
00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Michael Burnham and the Discovery got to the future, they

509
00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:14.799
<v Speaker 1>find out the burn had happened one hundred years ago.

510
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:18.039
<v Speaker 1>By the end of the season, they cured, they solved

511
00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:20.480
<v Speaker 1>the mystery of the burn, and the Federation was going

512
00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:23.319
<v Speaker 1>to like start to reorganize itself. But then it kind

513
00:29:23.319 --> 00:29:25.119
<v Speaker 1>of like they kind of dropped it. You didn't really

514
00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:28.359
<v Speaker 1>hear much about the details of that, and here it's

515
00:29:28.400 --> 00:29:32.079
<v Speaker 1>like this episode already it's like, oh, like okay, they're

516
00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:35.759
<v Speaker 1>trying to rebuild the Federation. Where are the headquarters of

517
00:29:35.799 --> 00:29:38.480
<v Speaker 1>the Federation going to be? And questions like that. Like

518
00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:41.920
<v Speaker 1>I just felt in the back building some backstory too,

519
00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:45.079
<v Speaker 1>like oh, beta'z ed cording themselves off from everyone else

520
00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:48.119
<v Speaker 1>to protect themselves. Like that's an interesting thread that I

521
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:50.279
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be surprised if they continued to delve into that,

522
00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:52.640
<v Speaker 1>because it turns out by the end of this episode

523
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:57.000
<v Speaker 1>that the betazoid girl and her brother are now also

524
00:29:57.039 --> 00:29:58.920
<v Speaker 1>going to be based at the Academy, but they basically

525
00:29:58.960 --> 00:30:01.359
<v Speaker 1>have Makos as well, or what they call it the

526
00:30:01.400 --> 00:30:03.160
<v Speaker 1>War College or something they.

527
00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:03.960
<v Speaker 2>The War College.

528
00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so so she's in the War College and her

529
00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:10.880
<v Speaker 1>brother is now the one of Caleb's roommates. There's a

530
00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:13.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of also in the spirit of ducas not deep

531
00:30:13.680 --> 00:30:15.759
<v Speaker 1>say signed, there's a lot of like B and C

532
00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:19.119
<v Speaker 1>level characters being introduced to. Right, you have your main cast,

533
00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:21.640
<v Speaker 1>and then you've got all these other characters who are

534
00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:23.759
<v Speaker 1>kind of floating around, which I like, like, you know,

535
00:30:24.039 --> 00:30:26.119
<v Speaker 1>I like that brother was funny. At the end of

536
00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:28.839
<v Speaker 1>this episode. I also wanted to mention Phil but we didn't.

537
00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:31.480
<v Speaker 1>We didn't talk about it in the previous episode. But

538
00:30:31.920 --> 00:30:34.559
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know the character or the actress's name,

539
00:30:34.599 --> 00:30:38.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, but Holly Hunter's first officer, her number one,

540
00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:44.039
<v Speaker 1>who's half Klingon, half gem Hadar, she's I thought she

541
00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:45.119
<v Speaker 1>was a lot of fun.

542
00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:47.279
<v Speaker 2>A lot of great drill sergeanty moments.

543
00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, like and kind of like with a wink

544
00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:53.200
<v Speaker 1>in our in our eye, like she knows, like she's

545
00:30:53.319 --> 00:30:55.039
<v Speaker 1>taking the piss out of the kids a little bit

546
00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:58.359
<v Speaker 1>and having and enjoying it, you know. So and then

547
00:30:58.400 --> 00:31:02.079
<v Speaker 1>also tig Nataro shows up in this episode, yeah, which

548
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:04.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, I never loved her character all that much,

549
00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:05.960
<v Speaker 1>but you know, she's funny.

550
00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:10.519
<v Speaker 2>Live here is great. Yeah, even Colbert being But is

551
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:12.839
<v Speaker 2>he like the voice of the AI of the school.

552
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:17.319
<v Speaker 1>He's the voice of something? Yeah, I guess so. But

553
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:20.680
<v Speaker 1>then there's also the voice of I think the ship

554
00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:25.680
<v Speaker 1>is Britt Marling. Yes, right, yeah, so I guess you're right.

555
00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:27.640
<v Speaker 1>I guess he's the one because in the episode two

556
00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:29.880
<v Speaker 1>you hear his voice a lot, don't you. Like he's

557
00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:33.519
<v Speaker 1>announcing like it's the end, now it's time for lights out?

558
00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:36.680
<v Speaker 1>Is at ten o'clock or something like he's he's offering

559
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:39.240
<v Speaker 1>a commentary in the background throughout the episode.

560
00:31:39.519 --> 00:31:41.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he says angry at one point, which I

561
00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:42.839
<v Speaker 2>was really.

562
00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:46.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that's that's the thing, like the good

563
00:31:46.079 --> 00:31:49.480
<v Speaker 1>old days of like Star Trek characters and actors speaking

564
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:54.839
<v Speaker 1>like in not in like modern colloquialisms. That's just that's over, right,

565
00:31:54.960 --> 00:31:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, once Discovery started, they just they even had

566
00:31:57.920 --> 00:32:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Captain McCart say, fuck, yeah.

567
00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:05.680
<v Speaker 2>I saw someone online. Uh mentioned at one point in

568
00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:09.319
<v Speaker 2>the show, Stephen Colbert says the word says makes a

569
00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:10.559
<v Speaker 2>joke about morning wood.

570
00:32:11.640 --> 00:32:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, I don't know if I caught that.

571
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:18.200
<v Speaker 2>I didn't catch that.

572
00:32:18.599 --> 00:32:20.359
<v Speaker 1>Okay, it could be a few it could be a

573
00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:21.240
<v Speaker 1>future episode.

574
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:23.200
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they like something leak then.

575
00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:28.119
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, okay, so but yeah, and you know, so

576
00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:35.160
<v Speaker 1>like there the show is doing. So Discovery's mistake, I

577
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:40.920
<v Speaker 1>think eventually was mystery box storytelling, right, which was, let's

578
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:44.720
<v Speaker 1>get to we were doing ten or twelve episodes and

579
00:32:44.920 --> 00:32:46.880
<v Speaker 1>we have this big mystery that we have to solve.

580
00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:50.079
<v Speaker 1>This show has a little bit of that, but it's

581
00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:53.319
<v Speaker 1>not only that. So the big mystery of the season

582
00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:57.440
<v Speaker 1>obviously is what happened to Caleb's mom, right, But from

583
00:32:57.480 --> 00:33:02.039
<v Speaker 1>there then we're I think, like this was this was

584
00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:04.200
<v Speaker 1>sort of a standalone episode in the way, right the

585
00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:07.799
<v Speaker 1>mystery is part of it. But like, this episode obviously

586
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:10.640
<v Speaker 1>has a big mystery, which is Taddyana Maslani, right or

587
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:13.000
<v Speaker 1>what happened to her? But like, it's not solely fixed

588
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:15.480
<v Speaker 1>based on the first two episodes. It's not solely fixated

589
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:18.960
<v Speaker 1>on that, right, so I think, And from what little

590
00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:21.119
<v Speaker 1>I know, from what you've told me about what's to come,

591
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:24.079
<v Speaker 1>like we're gonna get like standalone stories, which I'm sure

592
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:26.799
<v Speaker 1>is still gonna We're still gonna have that main thread

593
00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:29.680
<v Speaker 1>throughout the season, but we're doing other stuff too, right,

594
00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:33.720
<v Speaker 1>So Okay, so I don't know what what else? What

595
00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:36.559
<v Speaker 1>are we missing about these first two that's worth commenting on.

596
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:40.160
<v Speaker 2>Hmm.

597
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:50.559
<v Speaker 1>This, Uh, the set design is set is interesting.

598
00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:54.039
<v Speaker 2>It's the most expensive set, but I I wish the

599
00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:59.200
<v Speaker 2>Starship interior, the school Starship interior had a little less plastic.

600
00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:00.559
<v Speaker 2>Y we'll fill in.

601
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:03.880
<v Speaker 1>With yeah, yeah, I see what you mean.

602
00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:07.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's a massive set. I'm very impressed.

603
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm still annoyed by the the big display of

604
00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:14.719
<v Speaker 1>all the all the names of only characters we've heard of,

605
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:19.039
<v Speaker 1>like that that you know in the Academy and Academy Matrium.

606
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:21.800
<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, let's put everyone who was ever a

607
00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:22.920
<v Speaker 1>character on this board.

608
00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:25.320
<v Speaker 2>I like that that Sulu's daughters on there though.

609
00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Tomara, Yeah, yeah, that's cool. I guess everyone from

610
00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:37.199
<v Speaker 1>Wesley Crusher to Harry Kim is on that board.

611
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Finally can get some recognition. Imagine teaching that lesson in class.

612
00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:46.159
<v Speaker 2>You're telling me this guy was an ensign for Hella.

613
00:34:47.960 --> 00:34:51.239
<v Speaker 1>But I look forward to continuing to watch. I don't know, Phil,

614
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:53.159
<v Speaker 1>like if you feel like you want to keep talking

615
00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:55.639
<v Speaker 1>about it on the podcast or not, Like, I guess

616
00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:56.360
<v Speaker 1>we can see what?

617
00:34:56.760 --> 00:34:58.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, what do you guys think? Do you guys

618
00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:00.519
<v Speaker 2>want to hear? Do you guys want we the updates?

619
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:01.599
<v Speaker 1>Or what?

620
00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Ye? What you think of the show?

621
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let us know, but I will certainly be continuing

622
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:08.440
<v Speaker 1>to watch at the very least.

623
00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:12.639
<v Speaker 2>Scott also sorry that the top of episode two. Yeah

624
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:15.000
<v Speaker 2>do you remember how that opens? You remember who we see?

625
00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:19.360
<v Speaker 1>No? I just watched it last night.

626
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:23.159
<v Speaker 2>Our buddy from Star Trek Prodigy.

627
00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:29.079
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's right, rock or rock or what rock? Tuck right,

628
00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:32.800
<v Speaker 1>But it can't be the same person, can it. I

629
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<v Speaker 1>guess I guess who. I guess who knows how long

630
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<v Speaker 1>those those species lives? Right? Yeah? That was cool? Yeah,

631
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<v Speaker 1>actually cool and at the same time sort of a

632
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<v Speaker 1>slap in the face to Star Trek Prodigy fans, because

633
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:52.840
<v Speaker 1>this is the show that not only was canceled, but

634
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<v Speaker 1>was forced off of the paramount streaming service onto Netflix,

635
00:35:56.840 --> 00:36:00.440
<v Speaker 1>and then they're using one of its most recognizable characters here.

636
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:03.679
<v Speaker 2>I thought that too, you know, so like a little

637
00:36:03.920 --> 00:36:05.880
<v Speaker 2>little nudge to this show that we killed.

638
00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a little little kick in the balls because we're going.

639
00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:11.480
<v Speaker 2>Out in the business of making good television for all ages,

640
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<v Speaker 2>including young children.

641
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<v Speaker 1>Uh. You know. The funny thing is, I'm I'm assuming

642
00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:18.440
<v Speaker 1>that that. I mean, we're being unfair, right, because I'm

643
00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:23.320
<v Speaker 1>assuming Kurtzman was Kurtzman's whole mission has been about trying

644
00:36:23.360 --> 00:36:26.320
<v Speaker 1>to bring Star Trek to younger viewers. So I can't

645
00:36:26.360 --> 00:36:29.840
<v Speaker 1>imagine that he wanted Prodigy off the air, you know,

646
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:32.519
<v Speaker 1>like I think it was a Paramount plus or whatever.

647
00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:35.639
<v Speaker 1>The studio, you know, it was a money thing, right,

648
00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:40.239
<v Speaker 1>So I would say so, yeah, I think so. But

649
00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:43.559
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of little things there, and there's a

650
00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:46.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of little bits like that. But there's also that

651
00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:49.840
<v Speaker 1>the Exo comp flying around in episode two.

652
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:51.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I love that touch too.

653
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:55.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, and I think I saw someone speculating that

654
00:36:55.159 --> 00:36:58.320
<v Speaker 1>it could potentially be the Exo comp from lower decks.

655
00:36:58.760 --> 00:36:59.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the color scheme on it.

656
00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah yeah. So what does this mean then?

657
00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:09.039
<v Speaker 2>How does animated stuff interact in this live action world?

658
00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean we've seen it before because uh yeah, yeah, right.

659
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Yes, but that they passed through the same contraptions or

660
00:37:20.079 --> 00:37:21.639
<v Speaker 2>narrative devices.

661
00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:27.039
<v Speaker 1>That right, right, right right, that pack that Pike went through. Yeah, yeah,

662
00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:30.239
<v Speaker 1>good questions. Yeah, there's there's a lot of That's the

663
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:33.840
<v Speaker 1>thing I've only watched. Uh well, I watched episode one

664
00:37:33.880 --> 00:37:36.400
<v Speaker 1>twice and i'ven't only watched episode two once. But like

665
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:38.880
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of things in the fringes of the

666
00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:44.840
<v Speaker 1>shot by our Easter Egg, Like in Captain Aki's quarters,

667
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:48.320
<v Speaker 1>I noticed there's a bunch of ship models. I think

668
00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:52.079
<v Speaker 1>I saw the Voyager in there. So like someone's gotta do.

669
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:54.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure trek Core you guys are going to be

670
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:58.920
<v Speaker 1>doing frame by frame analyzes of a lot of the stuff. Yeah,

671
00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:01.280
<v Speaker 1>I will too, So maybe we'll talk about that stuff

672
00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:05.239
<v Speaker 1>on the next episode. But also last thing before we

673
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<v Speaker 1>go to the reprimat then the sixth. It is the

674
00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:12.199
<v Speaker 1>sixtieth anniversary of Star Trek right now, twenty twenty six.

675
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:14.719
<v Speaker 1>But the opening.

676
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:17.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh crap, I meant to talk about this.

677
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Thanks, Yeah, yeah, what do you call that? The opening

678
00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:22.000
<v Speaker 1>opening stinger? I don't know what it is?

679
00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the pre am but like the little pre logo.

680
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:27.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Star Trek pre logo, which usually has been

681
00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:30.280
<v Speaker 1>like the ship for whatever show you're watching, is how

682
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:32.599
<v Speaker 1>they've done it in recent years. This is like it's

683
00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:44.039
<v Speaker 1>like like Kirk's Enterprise, the Cards, Enterprise, Defiant Voyager, Facula's Enterprise, Discovery,

684
00:38:46.760 --> 00:38:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Pike's Enterprise, and then I think the Athena, which is

685
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:54.280
<v Speaker 1>the ship on this show. And you know, it's a

686
00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:56.519
<v Speaker 1>cool sequence, but I was thinking, huh, they skipped a

687
00:38:56.559 --> 00:39:02.360
<v Speaker 1>couple where's the Where's the Prodigy, where's the Cerritos? And

688
00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:07.199
<v Speaker 1>where where is Picard? The various ships Piccard was on,

689
00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:09.960
<v Speaker 1>mainly the Enterprise whatever it is the Enterprise.

690
00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:12.119
<v Speaker 2>G He's not in there. I thought the d was

691
00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:12.480
<v Speaker 2>in there.

692
00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:16.039
<v Speaker 1>No, I mean from Star Trek. Picard. Oh yeah, I

693
00:39:16.039 --> 00:39:18.400
<v Speaker 1>guess it's covered by the d which was what he

694
00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:20.039
<v Speaker 1>wound up on at the end of season three, But

695
00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:22.960
<v Speaker 1>that's not really that shows that shows that ship is

696
00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:26.159
<v Speaker 1>really well is it the Enterprise? G I can't remember

697
00:39:26.199 --> 00:39:29.679
<v Speaker 1>now lost track. So I just was like thinking, we

698
00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:32.880
<v Speaker 1>know how Alex Kirchman really felt about Star Trek Picard.

699
00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:36.079
<v Speaker 1>Is it a coincidence that that's the one ship that's

700
00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:38.400
<v Speaker 1>not the one live action ship that didn't make the cut?

701
00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:38.679
<v Speaker 1>You know?

702
00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:45.159
<v Speaker 2>So it was cool seeing the a yeah, and the Defiant.

703
00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:48.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was yeah, yeah, no, it's great. It's cool.

704
00:39:48.599 --> 00:39:51.480
<v Speaker 2>So I like the chronology that it followed, you.

705
00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Know, yeah, yeah, that was interesting. Yeah, yeah, so yeah.

706
00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:57.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's the sixtieth anniversary, so I'm sure we'll

707
00:39:57.039 --> 00:40:00.119
<v Speaker 1>be talking more about that as the year progressive. But

708
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:01.920
<v Speaker 1>for now, why don't we head over to the Replmat.

709
00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Let's do it.

710
00:40:03.559 --> 00:40:14.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to the Replmat to get something to eat. Phil,

711
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Is this going to be a double This is going

712
00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:22.199
<v Speaker 1>to be a double replemat where a double repeat replemat

713
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:25.280
<v Speaker 1>because you and I have the same replemat pic and

714
00:40:26.039 --> 00:40:30.400
<v Speaker 1>it's the same pick that I had last time last episode. Yeah,

715
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:34.119
<v Speaker 1>so I think that's the first Yeah, and it's our show,

716
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:35.360
<v Speaker 1>so we can do it if we want.

717
00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:38.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's right.

718
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:40.400
<v Speaker 1>What is it?

719
00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:45.239
<v Speaker 2>It's twenty eight years later The Bone Temple. Yeah, I

720
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:46.039
<v Speaker 2>love it.

721
00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:49.719
<v Speaker 1>So again a good time spoilers. I guess we're just

722
00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:54.639
<v Speaker 1>talk spoilers. The movies out tonight, right, So, but yeah,

723
00:40:54.679 --> 00:40:57.360
<v Speaker 1>Like I had seen it last month and I loved it,

724
00:40:57.400 --> 00:40:58.960
<v Speaker 1>and then I was so happy to hear that you

725
00:40:59.199 --> 00:40:59.960
<v Speaker 1>felt the same way.

726
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:03.840
<v Speaker 2>It's one of those movies where you're presented with a

727
00:41:03.880 --> 00:41:08.760
<v Speaker 2>threat and a battie who behaves in ways that you

728
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:12.599
<v Speaker 2>cannot wait for their comeuppance to happen. Yes, and when

729
00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:17.519
<v Speaker 2>it happens, I'm going like, I'm just just pumping. And

730
00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:20.199
<v Speaker 2>no one in the theater with me at this advanced

731
00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:23.239
<v Speaker 2>screening is having any reaction? Am I the only one?

732
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:25.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised too, because it was like a fan screening,

733
00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:29.000
<v Speaker 1>right yeah, yeah, yeah, usually the fans get pretty ampt

734
00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:30.039
<v Speaker 1>for that stuff.

735
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Not here. What was it like for you when you

736
00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:32.840
<v Speaker 2>saw it?

737
00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:36.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean people, it was a month ago, so

738
00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:38.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to remember now, but I think people were

739
00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:41.199
<v Speaker 1>into it, Like, I think people were into it, and

740
00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:46.559
<v Speaker 1>because that was also fan screening, but I don't remember

741
00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:51.639
<v Speaker 1>the specifics either, but I mean, but he certainly does it,

742
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:55.079
<v Speaker 1>Sir Lord Jimmy Crystal, we're talking about right.

743
00:41:55.039 --> 00:41:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Jack McConnell's broke my float.

744
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:05.480
<v Speaker 1>He's so good, so good, and he does get his

745
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:08.719
<v Speaker 1>come up and does he is he dead?

746
00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:11.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so.

747
00:42:11.800 --> 00:42:13.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the thing.

748
00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:16.199
<v Speaker 2>I think they would have given us a satisfying kill.

749
00:42:16.360 --> 00:42:18.920
<v Speaker 2>That's what that character deserved. And I got it.

750
00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:22.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think he might be back, right, he can

751
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:27.239
<v Speaker 1>come back asn't infected even right, Yeah. So, but I mean,

752
00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I dug.

753
00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:30.840
<v Speaker 2>It, man, I dug it. It has some timely stuff

754
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:33.800
<v Speaker 2>in it. I think it's needed to Costa's best film

755
00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:36.039
<v Speaker 2>so far, best studio film. At least.

756
00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:38.039
<v Speaker 1>Ray finds is so Ray finds.

757
00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:38.960
<v Speaker 2>He's fantastic.

758
00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:42.639
<v Speaker 1>He has this. I mean, just once he was dancing

759
00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:45.199
<v Speaker 1>to Duran Duran, I was like, oh, I was in yeah,

760
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:47.599
<v Speaker 1>oh my god. And then that the fact that it

761
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:53.320
<v Speaker 1>culminates the big climactic scene is him dancing. I guess

762
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:57.159
<v Speaker 1>it's dancing to Iron Maiden where he's pretending to be

763
00:42:57.199 --> 00:42:58.880
<v Speaker 1>the Devil was nuts.

764
00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:01.599
<v Speaker 2>It's like you're with the movie or you're out.

765
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:02.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

766
00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:07.039
<v Speaker 2>So it's just like it didn't turn into like your

767
00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:11.719
<v Speaker 2>expected big showdown type thing. Right, I'm surprised all that

768
00:43:11.840 --> 00:43:14.880
<v Speaker 2>music didn't draw in all the the rage heads.

769
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:18.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's true. Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. Maybe

770
00:43:18.559 --> 00:43:22.960
<v Speaker 1>well maybe it did though, because eventually by the end

771
00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:26.119
<v Speaker 1>we do see have an indication that at least one

772
00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:28.679
<v Speaker 1>or two of them were entering the zone. Right, But like,

773
00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:31.519
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, you're right, it's funny. It's a it's a

774
00:43:31.559 --> 00:43:35.840
<v Speaker 1>fun twenty eight excuse me, a fun twenty eight days movie,

775
00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:38.119
<v Speaker 1>which isn't really a word that would has been used

776
00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:41.559
<v Speaker 1>for past installments of the series. Right. This is like

777
00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:44.519
<v Speaker 1>the third movie or the fourth movie in the series. Right,

778
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:49.559
<v Speaker 1>And of course it's there's horrifying scenes and there's go

779
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:52.840
<v Speaker 1>very very gory stuff in the movie, but it's also

780
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:56.039
<v Speaker 1>like it's kind of a good time at the movies. Also,

781
00:43:56.480 --> 00:43:59.719
<v Speaker 1>it is you know, and I like the way it

782
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:03.480
<v Speaker 1>can to you know, connected to what what came before.

783
00:44:03.559 --> 00:44:07.079
<v Speaker 1>Also and agreed, did you uh, what do you think

784
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:11.920
<v Speaker 1>of like the final the final five minutes, which is

785
00:44:11.960 --> 00:44:14.280
<v Speaker 1>like the scene I guess the scene everyone's been waiting for.

786
00:44:14.440 --> 00:44:14.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

787
00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:18.920
<v Speaker 2>I was like, okay, this is interesting. I like how

788
00:44:18.960 --> 00:44:21.840
<v Speaker 2>they set it up. I I would not be teaching

789
00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:27.599
<v Speaker 2>history at this point. Uh. And then my curate by

790
00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:30.760
<v Speaker 2>question was, is the mother Naomi Harris's character?

791
00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it has to be, right, Yeah. Is

792
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:39.159
<v Speaker 1>that the same house he was in at the end

793
00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:40.000
<v Speaker 1>of the first movie?

794
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:45.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Yeah, I have, I don't recall if

795
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:47.039
<v Speaker 2>it is good for him that he survived that long there?

796
00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Right, Yeah, when you look at the like the

797
00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:54.639
<v Speaker 1>timeline of the series, they were rescued at the end

798
00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:57.639
<v Speaker 1>of the first movie, it seemed, and then the second

799
00:44:57.679 --> 00:45:00.920
<v Speaker 1>movie tells us the second movie, which is kind of

800
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:04.440
<v Speaker 1>disconnected from everything else, but it tells us I believe that,

801
00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:08.960
<v Speaker 1>like they had contained everything for a while, but then

802
00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:16.519
<v Speaker 1>the ship goes bad again. So Jim, the Jim character

803
00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:20.679
<v Speaker 1>should have been he should have been able to return

804
00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:24.239
<v Speaker 1>to civilization at least temporarily. So yeah, I don't know,

805
00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:27.639
<v Speaker 1>we'll we'll see. But but the third movie obviously is

806
00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:29.039
<v Speaker 1>going to be all about him. But I like how

807
00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:32.079
<v Speaker 1>Spike the Kid is still part of it. Aaron ll

808
00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:35.039
<v Speaker 1>what's her name, Aaron Kellyman? Is that her name? Yeah?

809
00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:37.320
<v Speaker 1>I believe so, yeah, that she's also going to be

810
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:44.760
<v Speaker 1>part of it. So yeah, yeah, all right, cool. So

811
00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:46.679
<v Speaker 1>I guess that'll do it for us. But again, as

812
00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Phil said, let us know. Do you guys want us

813
00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:52.800
<v Speaker 1>to keep talking about Starfleet Academy Because I think we

814
00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:55.559
<v Speaker 1>will if you guys want us to. So hit us

815
00:45:55.599 --> 00:45:58.039
<v Speaker 1>up on all the usual channels transport room, through the

816
00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:01.599
<v Speaker 1>Gmail dot com, Facebook, talk to us on I guess,

817
00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:04.440
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter or blue Sky if you want, and of

818
00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:08.800
<v Speaker 1>course also check us out over on discord uh and

819
00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:13.039
<v Speaker 1>on Patreon. So Phil, thanks for geeking out. I can't

820
00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:18.079
<v Speaker 1>believe this magical transfer information that has occurred, but you are.

821
00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:21.119
<v Speaker 2>You are now the new me.

822
00:46:21.719 --> 00:46:24.599
<v Speaker 1>Phil is the world's biggest Starfleet Academy fan.

823
00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:29.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm as shocked as you are. You can send

824
00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:35.360
<v Speaker 2>flowers to my wife, all right, gang, thank you for listening.

825
00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:37.280
<v Speaker 2>Until next time, We'll see you all on Corved Island
