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<v Speaker 3>Hello and welcome to the show. This is the Cult

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<v Speaker 3>of Conspiracy and my name's Jonathan. I'm Jacob, and today

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<v Speaker 3>we are getting into the Lost Lands. Are we talking

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<v Speaker 3>on some Atlantis level shit or what here?

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<v Speaker 1>Jacob, I'm gonna be honest, I've mentioned in the past

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<v Speaker 1>few episodes, let's go ahead and.

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<v Speaker 2>Just get it all out there.

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<v Speaker 1>So we just did the Atlantis episode, okay, and I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that that was.

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<v Speaker 2>A pretty fun one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still not convinced that Atlantis never existed. Ever, I

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<v Speaker 1>do think that it is so far back in the

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<v Speaker 1>history that has been lost, like fully lost to the

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<v Speaker 1>stands of time, that we will probably never actually know.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm comfortable on that footing, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, sure, I mean, especially whenever you get into like

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<v Speaker 3>the Pyramids, nobody even knows how to date them and stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>like some people would suggest ten twelve thousand years and

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<v Speaker 3>even still that is like the oldest thing that we're

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<v Speaker 3>aware of for the most part, I know that there's

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<v Speaker 3>some maybe some ancient relics or something like that that

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<v Speaker 3>maybe go back even farther saying, talking about something that

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<v Speaker 3>could potentially be sixty thousand years ago, I would imagine

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<v Speaker 3>everything is lost in the sense of time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a fair point, right, and that's why archaeology is

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<v Speaker 1>usually right to a point. But then there's also a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things they just assume, like, for instance, any

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<v Speaker 1>weird artifact that they can't figure out.

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<v Speaker 2>What it is or what it was used for.

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<v Speaker 1>We believe it was for religious or ceremonial purposes, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it could have been the equivalent of our

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<v Speaker 1>key chain that they keep finding everywhere, and they just

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<v Speaker 1>know it is used for religious and ceremonial purposes because

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<v Speaker 1>typically the quote unquote outliers just kind of are that

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<v Speaker 1>until they get discovered as something else.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I do like I do.

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<v Speaker 3>Like to think that, you know, stuff that we don't

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<v Speaker 3>really understand the use for may have potentially had some

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<v Speaker 3>spiritual or religious purpose for it, because I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>personally believe that you know, us as a people, we

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<v Speaker 3>were probably a lot more spiritual, I know, animalistic, but

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I believe that you know, people way back

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<v Speaker 3>in the day or way way way back in the day,

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<v Speaker 3>we're probably a little bit closer to nature, which meant,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, closer to God.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so let me ask you this hypothetical. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is a straw man you but hear me out. Let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>right now, for whatever reason, a nuclear war kicks off, boom,

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<v Speaker 1>the entire earth is wiped out.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking.

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<v Speaker 1>No one survives except for essentially a small group that

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<v Speaker 1>was in a cave somewhere I think Noah's archetype situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Human population rebuilds. Thousands of years from now, they find

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<v Speaker 1>random remains of humans all over the Earth, and it seems,

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason that all of these humans had this

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<v Speaker 1>weird significance with lithium, because in every one of them

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<v Speaker 1>we found trace elements of these lithium that seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>they were welded to their skeletal structure, i e. Our

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<v Speaker 1>batteries and our cell phones and bapes that for some

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<v Speaker 1>reason the plastic melts it away, but the lithium mineral

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<v Speaker 1>itself attached to our bones. So now, ten thousand years

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<v Speaker 1>in the future, everyone thinks that prehistoric man quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>had a weird religious attachment to lithium so much so

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<v Speaker 1>that they would go through a special surgery to infuse

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<v Speaker 1>it to their bones. They would write that in their books,

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<v Speaker 1>they would teach this in seminars. In reality, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>vapes and cell phones. But like they would have no

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<v Speaker 1>context to say anything else.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Well, I would say that history. You know, they

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<v Speaker 3>say that a history doesn't necessarily you know, match necessarily,

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<v Speaker 3>but it tends to rhyme, and so I would say that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, whatever we would be going through in the

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<v Speaker 3>future would be reminiscent of how it all started in

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<v Speaker 3>the beginning of the past, right, And so I guess

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<v Speaker 3>it all lends to the your philosophy about the ancient

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<v Speaker 3>peoples of ten twenty thirty fifty sixty thousand years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Were they actually advanced? And is it possible that we

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<v Speaker 3>could be talking about an advanced civilization, whether it be

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<v Speaker 3>technologically or some other way to where we're now. We're

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<v Speaker 3>looking at the ONC as if it was I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe it was a fucking hood ornament on a spacecraft

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<v Speaker 3>or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, absolutely right, So we don't know, but we're going

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<v Speaker 1>off with the best evidence that we have, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>so to that point, this whole Atlantis conversation got me

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<v Speaker 1>thinking of some other great land masses that have been

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote lost to time under the ocean, whatever the

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<v Speaker 1>case was.

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<v Speaker 2>So this kind of got me spiraling.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I discovered that they have recently confirmed a

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<v Speaker 1>lost land mass, a lost continent, if you will, and

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<v Speaker 1>it is confirmed that it was inhabited by humans and

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<v Speaker 1>animals up until ten thousand years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>That's pretty tight.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like, bro, bro, this has blown my mind

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<v Speaker 1>and shifted my reality.

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<v Speaker 2>Where is this?

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<v Speaker 3>Where is this mass at?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, we're gonna get to it. We're gonna get to it.

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<v Speaker 2>But all right.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, lost land mass that we are now

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<v Speaker 1>going to be discussing is called, as of our current dialect,

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<v Speaker 1>dogger Land. Okay, now I know it's a weird sounding name.

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<v Speaker 1>It is between the Netherlands in England. Essentially the English

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<v Speaker 1>Isles used to be the English Mountain range on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side of a vast land mass.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's now sunken.

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<v Speaker 1>We are going to discuss why is it, how is it,

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<v Speaker 1>what is it?

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<v Speaker 2>All the things.

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<v Speaker 1>But first first, let me take you on the rabbit

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<v Speaker 1>hole that I went down. Okay, so we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Atlantis. We were talking about these things, all the

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<v Speaker 1>lost information that got me thinking of hold on, now,

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<v Speaker 1>the Lost Land of Mew, the Lost continent of Mew

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<v Speaker 1>is something that I have heard in my line of

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<v Speaker 1>work a time or two before. So I decided that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, before I do any shitting on Atlantis,

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<v Speaker 1>because again I didn't know about Doggerland when I started

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<v Speaker 1>this trek. Okay, so I'm thinking like the Lost Land

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<v Speaker 1>of Mew as we're talking about Atlantis, and I'm kind

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<v Speaker 1>of nah about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see what's up?

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<v Speaker 1>What do we actually know about the Lost Land of Mew?

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<v Speaker 2>Jonathan? Right off top? What do you just?

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<v Speaker 1>As a run of the mill conspiracy theorist, been a

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<v Speaker 1>time or two around the block?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you know? Off top?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really know jack shit about me, to be

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<v Speaker 3>honest with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew it was somewhere in Asia. I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was about all I knew.

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<v Speaker 3>That's more than even what I know. So I have

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<v Speaker 3>no idea like are we talking like the first part

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<v Speaker 3>of Pangaea that broke off? You know, like is it

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<v Speaker 3>somewhere along those lines?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know what, I actually have a quick little

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<v Speaker 1>Vigia that's gonna do a pretty good job of laying

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<v Speaker 1>it all out here. And Jonathan, if these people would

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<v Speaker 1>like to see what is going on rather than just

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And I'm telling y'all for this episode, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the things we're gonna be talking about, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have some visual aids and it will be better for

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so let's talk a little bit. This is

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little five minute video out the unexplained Lost

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<v Speaker 5>All right, one of the most intriguing lost continents is

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<v Speaker 6>The first person to write extensively about the Lost Continent

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<v Speaker 1>Real quick, I did want to make a mention this

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<v Speaker 1>notice that all of these crazy beliefs and new ways

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you see that. And I think the curring theme, well,

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<v Speaker 3>there was a lot of like fictional stories we're selling

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<v Speaker 3>like hotcakes back in those days, and because people, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>that fictional stories don't sell well here. I mean, look

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<v Speaker 3>at the Twilight series, look at the Lord of the Rings,

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<v Speaker 3>look at all a Game of Thrones, like these are

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<v Speaker 3>all fictional stories, but they're understood that, you know, they

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<v Speaker 3>don't exist in our realm. Maybe they were pulled from

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<v Speaker 3>the ether of another higher dimension. Who knows, but like, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>but yeah, it definitely seems to be a draw towards

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<v Speaker 3>these fictional stories that people are saying, Look, we used

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<v Speaker 3>to be a lot more advanced. I mean, one would

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, well, I'm not necessarily shitting on the

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<v Speaker 1>man at this moment, okay, but I've just I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to mention it before we played the video and we

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<v Speaker 1>got side to I got sidetracked. I just I find

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<v Speaker 1>it interesting. We can talk about it later on, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>But like that's usually why I ask whenever somebody brings

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<v Speaker 1>up an article it's like or a book or something,

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<v Speaker 2>First off? Like, let's just do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we start sifting, but anyway, anyway, so all right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's learn more about the boy James here, because this

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<v Speaker 2>I think you would find it well.

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<v Speaker 3>And to be fair, there is some weird things that oddly,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, we talked about earlier. Maybe they don't match,

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<v Speaker 3>but they rhyme a little bit, especially whenever, because we

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<v Speaker 3>just covered in that live the Ingersaw Lockwood stuff. Ingersaw

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<v Speaker 3>Lockwood was the author of Little Baron Trump and the

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<v Speaker 3>the what was it, like the Trump Prophecy or whatever

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<v Speaker 3>it was. And this was way before Trump was even born, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's talking about how there's going to be the

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<v Speaker 3>this is going to be the last time that you

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<v Speaker 3>have to vote if I win, And it's like, shit

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<v Speaker 3>is weirdly checking out, And maybe it spawned from a

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<v Speaker 3>point of fiction, but then it like manifested itself into

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<v Speaker 3>some weird kind of way. So I'm not saying that

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<v Speaker 3>fictional stories are bullshit, you know, but maybe there's something

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<v Speaker 3>to them. I don't know. Let's find out a little

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing, right, if it's a written down story

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<v Speaker 1>based off of an oral legend, there's that kernel of truth,

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<v Speaker 1>there's that possible game of telephone that had to originate

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<v Speaker 1>from somewhere, and so like that trail of breadcrumbs.

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoy following.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, yeah, well to your point also about Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>so apparently you're just gonna fucking end at all here,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, no, no, I meant because the evangelical

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<v Speaker 1>voters don't vote for some reason, Christians do not go

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<v Speaker 2>The ones that do absolutely do, but most of them

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<v Speaker 2>just don't really bother.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was trying to get them because I was

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<v Speaker 2>All right, that was a fair yeah, fair counterpoint.

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<v Speaker 3>That makes sense. But it's just like, you know, as

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<v Speaker 3>I guess where I was going with the whole the

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<v Speaker 3>like eighteen ninety something those were written, and you could

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<v Speaker 3>say maybe that was some automatic writing. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna get too weird here, but people have

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<v Speaker 3>gone into automatic writing where they just go into a

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<v Speaker 3>full on trans mode and they're writing shit down. Singers, authors,

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<v Speaker 3>movie writers, all like book writers, all this shit. They

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<v Speaker 3>all talk about how they go into this weird trance,

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<v Speaker 3>which some people call automatic writing, possibly pulling information down

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<v Speaker 3>from the ether just to get a little weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I'm glad you said it the way you did, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm gonna be honest with you. Not knowing much

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<v Speaker 1>about Mew before I started digging, I didn't know where

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<v Speaker 1>a Scottish writer would have got this information. But wait

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<v Speaker 1>till you hear the story. And I'm not saying this

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<v Speaker 1>in an incredulous way. It's actually pretty wild.

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<v Speaker 6>In the nineteenth century, he was in India when he

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<v Speaker 6>visited a monastery and the monks there had recorded, apparently

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<v Speaker 6>tablets that referred to this place called Mew. That was

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<v Speaker 6>this huge continent that supposedly existed from Hawaii in the

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<v Speaker 6>north down to Easter Island in the southeast, right the

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<v Speaker 6>way across the Micronesia in the west, and the people

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<v Speaker 6>there were supposedly called the Nakau. The continent of Miu

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<v Speaker 6>thrived perhaps fifty thousand years ago and was sunk beneath

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<v Speaker 6>the wives, possibly at the end of the last ice.

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<v Speaker 7>Age my great grandfather James Churchward. Eventually he became friends

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<v Speaker 7>with the Rishi of the temple that he visited in India,

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<v Speaker 7>and then the Rishi's mentioned that he was a member

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<v Speaker 7>of the Nicoll Brotherhood, the holders of wisdom and knowledge

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<v Speaker 7>of the lost continent of MoU. There were mighty navigators

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<v Speaker 7>and sailors and established civilization in other parts of the world.

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<v Speaker 5>According to James Churchward, the Nicoll civilization had a population

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<v Speaker 5>of more than sixty million people at his peak, before

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<v Speaker 5>a massive volcanic cataclist caused Moved to vanish beneath the waters.

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<v Speaker 5>So for our no evidence of the last continents has

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<v Speaker 5>been found on the ocean floor, but some researchers claim

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<v Speaker 5>that incredibly, a tiny remnant of move may still exist

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<v Speaker 5>above water today on an island located in a remote

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<v Speaker 5>part of the Pacific Ocean, roughly twenty five hundred miles

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<v Speaker 5>northeast of Australia, by the ruins of a once great

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<v Speaker 5>ancient city, Nanmdal. Nanmadal is a complex of man made

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<v Speaker 6>So as you approach Nanmadal, there are a series of islands,

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<v Speaker 6>and they're built actually on coral the only place in

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<v Speaker 4>And you've got all these incredible structures.

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<v Speaker 6>Made of these prismatic blocks.

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<v Speaker 8>At Namadal, you have these ridiculous bast columns. They're huge,

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<v Speaker 8>some of them up to like forty tons even more.

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<v Speaker 8>In some cases some of them are raised very high

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<v Speaker 8>there's a real problem when it comes to try and

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<v Speaker 8>understand how they moved these millions of tons of bassout columns.

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<v Speaker 6>One of the biggest mysteries surrounding Nanmado is that nobody

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<v Speaker 6>really knows who constructed it. But there's some very strange

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<v Speaker 6>stories about how the city came into existence. For instance,

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<v Speaker 6>one of the stories talks about it being constructed by

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<v Speaker 6>so called master builders turning up and using a magical

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<v Speaker 6>force to raise the blocks into the air and put

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<v Speaker 6>them into place, almost as if they could levitate these blocks.

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<v Speaker 9>Some people actually suggested that maybe Nanada was a remnant

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<v Speaker 9>of Moo that was still above water and it was

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<v Speaker 9>simply indicative of what had sun beneath the waves from

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<v Speaker 9>this advanced civilization. Nan medals in Micronesia, so it fit

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<v Speaker 9>the correct general area, and this is one reason people

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<v Speaker 9>thought in terms of mood when.

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<v Speaker 8>It comes to looking for this lost Continent of Moon,

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<v Speaker 8>Places like nan Madon really do suggest that it could

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<v Speaker 8>be much more down there than you realize. On the

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<v Speaker 8>bottom of the ocean.

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<v Speaker 5>It's hard to picture an entire continent with people living

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<v Speaker 5>on it simply vanishing into the sea.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet.

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<v Speaker 5>All over the world there are legends of lost civilizations

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<v Speaker 5>that were swallowed up by the oceans.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, William Shatner.

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<v Speaker 1>Now all right, at this time, what are your thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on the Lost Continent of Moo. Well, we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Namadal specifically, but the continent itself.

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<v Speaker 2>What are your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 3>I do find oceanic stuff. I can't think of a

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<v Speaker 3>better word. I do find that, like the certain discoveries

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<v Speaker 3>of what's on the ocean floor, to be quite fascinating,

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<v Speaker 3>because it is estimated that we have only really mapped

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<v Speaker 3>out and explored five percent of the ocean floor, five

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<v Speaker 3>percent of all of the ocean floor. So it's not

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<v Speaker 3>to say that that automatically proves that there are lost

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<v Speaker 3>lands that are underwater, but it leaves up for possibility

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<v Speaker 3>that the vast majority of the ocean floor has not

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<v Speaker 3>even been touched, that hasn't been discovered. Nobody knows about

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<v Speaker 3>how deep. You know, most of the oceans are, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, then you know it's it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>difficult to even go down so far at certain points,

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<v Speaker 3>even if you're in like a submarine, because just pressure

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<v Speaker 3>just fucking eats you alive. But like, it is interesting

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<v Speaker 3>because I think that it kind of lends a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of credience, credence to the possibility of move being

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<v Speaker 3>at the bottom of the ocean floor, which is pretty

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<v Speaker 3>freaking cool.

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<v Speaker 2>It is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like like you're saying, we don't actually absolutely know

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<v Speaker 1>what's down there as far as the plate tectonic shift goes.

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<v Speaker 1>How do we know that one giant chunk of the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of it just sank down as a way of

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<v Speaker 1>jostling around and positioning itself once the plate split off.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know that. So it's within the realm of

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<v Speaker 2>possibility now, not like that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's because they mentioned Hawaii, right, It was like close

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<v Speaker 1>They said that it was in the Pacific Ocean, and

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<v Speaker 1>it basically connected with Hawaii Eastern Island and Namadal.

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<v Speaker 1>Massive, massive chunk of the vast Pacific Ocean, which, like

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<v Speaker 1>all the Polynesian and Samoan tribes had to learn how

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<v Speaker 1>to wayfined with their hand, with the stars and current

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<v Speaker 1>temperatures to find these specks of volcanic islands in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of this massive ocean, right and they were masters

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<v Speaker 1>at it, all these things.

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<v Speaker 2>Moana watched the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>It's they talk about all these things, which culturally was

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<v Speaker 1>really really on point.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're coming out with another Moana next year. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I know. I know the kids are pumped too. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna see it. I like the movie Be Honest.

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<v Speaker 3>With You, which, by the way, I just found that

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<v Speaker 3>the Kung Fu Panda four already came out. It's on Peacock.

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<v Speaker 3>It never even went to the movie theaters.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the one where he.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it just came out like a couple months ago.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not the one where he found the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the Panda family.

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<v Speaker 3>there's a fourth one. And uh I only know that

427
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<v Speaker 3>because I had like the Spotify playlist on shuffle and

428
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<v Speaker 3>I was listening to like a lot of Tenacious D

429
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<v Speaker 3>and shit like that. And then I saw that Jack

430
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<v Speaker 3>Black saying a version of hit Me Baby One More Time,

431
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<v Speaker 3>and it was part of the soundtrack of Kung Kung

432
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<v Speaker 3>Fu Panda four. Oh my god, dude, it is fucking hilarious.

433
00:23:08.880 --> 00:23:12.480
<v Speaker 3>Like listening to that song, it is great. So yeah,

434
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<v Speaker 3>I'm waiting until I get my son back and we're

435
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<v Speaker 3>just gonna fucking watch that movie. I'm pretty stoked about that.

436
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<v Speaker 2>Jack Black's just awesome, isn't he great character? Anyways?

437
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<v Speaker 1>So with the Mawana thing, right, So I will say

438
00:23:25.680 --> 00:23:28.960
<v Speaker 1>this about Disney, at least they made very very special

439
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<v Speaker 1>attention to making sure that they got all the cultural

440
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<v Speaker 1>references correct. They made sure that they used only people

441
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<v Speaker 1>that were true Islanders to voice all of the characters.

442
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<v Speaker 1>They kept it real on that one, which I thought

443
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<v Speaker 1>was pretty dope, Like, for instance, I wish they would

444
00:23:43.880 --> 00:23:48.519
<v Speaker 1>remake Pocahontas with real Native Americans, Like that would be dope.

445
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<v Speaker 1>And I don't, you know, like the whole storyline, or

446
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<v Speaker 1>at least have them be voiced by them. So whatever,

447
00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:55.599
<v Speaker 1>because it wasn't that a big scandal not too long ago.

448
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<v Speaker 1>Pocahontas's actual descendant didn't support Trump and the Voice of Pocahontas.

449
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<v Speaker 2>Did I saw articles about that once upon a time.

450
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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, well I didn't.

451
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<v Speaker 2>That was during the Trump Clinton election.

452
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<v Speaker 3>Actually interesting, I've I've heard like differing stories as far

453
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<v Speaker 3>as like, you know, the old Washington Redskins. There's some

454
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<v Speaker 3>of the Native Americans that are like, no, not the

455
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<v Speaker 3>Redskins anymore. Right, They're called the Commanders, which is stupid. Yeah,

456
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<v Speaker 3>but like a lot of the Native Americans are like, dude,

457
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<v Speaker 3>you weren't really necessarily like disrespecting us, if anything, you

458
00:24:28.440 --> 00:24:31.440
<v Speaker 3>were honoring us. And that that character that they had

459
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<v Speaker 3>on the Redskins helmet, that was actually a real Native

460
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<v Speaker 3>American and so it was like honoring him. And so

461
00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:39.759
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, it's just a bunch of white people

462
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<v Speaker 3>thinking that every white person is racist.

463
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<v Speaker 2>Really, yeah, I get it. It's complex.

464
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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, anyway, so as far as these island nations, right,

465
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<v Speaker 1>and apparently this massive continent that connected.

466
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<v Speaker 2>All of them. The theory on that one.

467
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so Hawaii is a bunch of volcanic islands, mean

468
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<v Speaker 1>that they are constantly going more, they're growing, right, the

469
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<v Speaker 1>lava's bubbly over and cooling, in the ocean, and slowly

470
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<v Speaker 1>but surely that grows the island. So it would makes

471
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<v Speaker 1>sense that Hawaii would stick out Easter Island being the

472
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<v Speaker 1>same way. It's a giant mountain range. Allegedly there's a

473
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<v Speaker 1>pyramid there. Who even be no in Then you got

474
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<v Speaker 1>Namadult which has all these structures that are built. So

475
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<v Speaker 1>for somebody keep in mind though he was a Scottish

476
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<v Speaker 1>writer in the eighteen hundreds, so I wanted to do

477
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<v Speaker 1>a little bit digging on him. See if he was

478
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<v Speaker 1>a fraud, See if he was just a writer. Was

479
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<v Speaker 1>he a bit of a moonlight archaeologist person. There's all

480
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<v Speaker 1>kinds of things. So let's go into it.

481
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<v Speaker 2>Here.

482
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<v Speaker 1>I will say right off the top, they do make

483
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<v Speaker 1>a incorrect statesment here. This is Encyclopedia dot com. By

484
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<v Speaker 1>the way, they say that, I'll read this first one

485
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<v Speaker 1>just to make this point. Churchward James eighteen fifty two

486
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<v Speaker 1>to nineteen thirty six, author of several books about the

487
00:25:47.359 --> 00:25:51.799
<v Speaker 1>lost continents of Mew or Lomuria, the Pacific Ocean equivalent

488
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<v Speaker 1>of Atlantis. Born in England in eighteen fifty two. Okay, pause,

489
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<v Speaker 1>Lamyria and Mew are two different locations.

490
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<v Speaker 2>There's two different storylines.

491
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<v Speaker 1>About each of those, because as a matter of fact,

492
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<v Speaker 1>the next place we will be discussing is Lemiria before

493
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<v Speaker 1>we get to Doggerland. So just so we're clear, they

494
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<v Speaker 1>made the Encyclopedia dot com website first sentences already off

495
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<v Speaker 1>to a rocky and shaky start with me personally.

496
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<v Speaker 3>So that being said, I guess you could see maybe

497
00:26:20.880 --> 00:26:23.519
<v Speaker 3>how they might be the same thing. Lou or Mew

498
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<v Speaker 3>and Lemuria. There's a mew in Lemuria.

499
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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the thing.

500
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<v Speaker 1>And plus Lamia is supposed to be in the Indian Ocean,

501
00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:32.240
<v Speaker 1>which is next to the Pacific Ocean. So like, I'm

502
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<v Speaker 1>thinking that maybe some brainiac who is typing this up

503
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<v Speaker 1>just kind of combined it all. I don't I don't

504
00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:39.880
<v Speaker 1>exactly know, but I'm mean, but as we do with

505
00:26:39.920 --> 00:26:41.920
<v Speaker 1>the cult of conspiracy, we are calling out the red

506
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<v Speaker 1>flags and the fallacies where we see them, all right,

507
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<v Speaker 1>So that would be one that the mainstream the Encyclopedia

508
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<v Speaker 1>dot Com did, in fact just get wrong for sentence

509
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<v Speaker 1>out the Gate.

510
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<v Speaker 3>Okay. He uh born in England in eighteen fifty two.

511
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<v Speaker 3>He stated that he became friendly with a Hindu priest

512
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<v Speaker 3>during a famine in India in the nineteenth century, and

513
00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:06.920
<v Speaker 3>the priest led him to a collection of ancient clay

514
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<v Speaker 3>tablets hidden in a cave and taught him a language

515
00:27:09.519 --> 00:27:13.519
<v Speaker 3>called Nakal, by which the tablets could be deciphered. According

516
00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:16.799
<v Speaker 3>to Churchward, these tablets told the story of the lost

517
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<v Speaker 3>continent of Mu, a primitive garden of Eden destroyed by

518
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<v Speaker 3>volcanic action. No one ever saw the Nicoal tablets, and

519
00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:28.559
<v Speaker 3>it is likely that they never existed. More important in

520
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<v Speaker 3>building church words vision of is it Mu or Mew?

521
00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:34.319
<v Speaker 2>I've heard both?

522
00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:35.240
<v Speaker 3>Okay?

523
00:27:35.279 --> 00:27:35.480
<v Speaker 2>Well?

524
00:27:35.519 --> 00:27:39.000
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, his vision of Mew were the writings of Augustus

525
00:27:39.079 --> 00:27:40.559
<v Speaker 3>les plngon A.

526
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<v Speaker 1>Remember we talked about him when he was doing archaeological digs.

527
00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:45.480
<v Speaker 2>But he was a photographer.

528
00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Remember he was taken pictures of the Mayan and Aztec

529
00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:50.720
<v Speaker 1>ruins and things like that.

530
00:27:50.920 --> 00:27:53.559
<v Speaker 2>So he was another talking head at this time.

531
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<v Speaker 3>He was an archaeologist who had spent the last decade

532
00:27:56.960 --> 00:27:59.519
<v Speaker 3>of the nineteenth century studying the Mayan remnants and the

533
00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:03.119
<v Speaker 3>Yucate He believed that he had deciphered the hieroglyphics that

534
00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:06.880
<v Speaker 3>told the story of an ancient land Mew. He published

535
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:10.680
<v Speaker 3>his results in a book called Queen MoU and the

536
00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:15.200
<v Speaker 3>Egyptian Sphinx in eighteen ninety six, and then Churchward inherited

537
00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:17.200
<v Speaker 3>la Plungin's papers.

538
00:28:17.599 --> 00:28:20.039
<v Speaker 1>We did, in fact talk about his writings later on.

539
00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:23.640
<v Speaker 1>That was the story that he wrote. And now Plungin.

540
00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:27.680
<v Speaker 3>His his visions like weren't as crazy as other people, though.

541
00:28:28.079 --> 00:28:32.160
<v Speaker 1>They weren't, but he also didn't declare things. He said

542
00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:34.279
<v Speaker 1>that he found remnants that would lead him to believe

543
00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:37.440
<v Speaker 1>that it was possible that the Mayans were actually the Atlanteans.

544
00:28:38.319 --> 00:28:41.200
<v Speaker 1>He was making speculations based off of things he saw

545
00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:45.839
<v Speaker 1>for the first time ever allegedly allegedly that a European

546
00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:48.359
<v Speaker 1>was able to see these and take these pictures and

547
00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:50.359
<v Speaker 1>bring it back and decipher them and look at them

548
00:28:50.400 --> 00:28:54.160
<v Speaker 1>with this lens. He knew at least that there was

549
00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:56.160
<v Speaker 1>more to the story. Now, he may have been making

550
00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:59.119
<v Speaker 1>some claims. Maybe he brought up Mew, maybe he brought

551
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:01.200
<v Speaker 1>up Atlantis, maybe he brought up all of these things.

552
00:29:01.240 --> 00:29:03.319
<v Speaker 1>And then he said that they were connected to the

553
00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:08.319
<v Speaker 1>Egyptian hieroglyphs if you remember. Doesn't mean that they necessarily were,

554
00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:10.960
<v Speaker 1>but it was the first time that somebody was able

555
00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:13.200
<v Speaker 1>to look at this all on connected dots on a courtboard,

556
00:29:13.240 --> 00:29:13.839
<v Speaker 1>so to speak.

557
00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:19.160
<v Speaker 3>Church Word took laplungen speculations into the realm of pure fantasy.

558
00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:22.240
<v Speaker 3>He picked up the He picked up on the theosophical

559
00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:26.279
<v Speaker 3>myth of Lemuria, which he identified with Laplungen's Mew. His

560
00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:29.039
<v Speaker 3>first book on the subject, called The Lost Continent of

561
00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:33.519
<v Speaker 3>Mew The Motherland of Man. It appeared in nineteen twenty six.

562
00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:36.839
<v Speaker 3>It was followed by three additional volumes expanding upon the

563
00:29:36.839 --> 00:29:40.680
<v Speaker 3>theme church Words. Mew was located in the South Pacific.

564
00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:43.400
<v Speaker 3>It extended five hundred by three hundred miles in the

565
00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:46.640
<v Speaker 3>area from present day Hawaii to Fiji and from Easter

566
00:29:46.759 --> 00:29:50.200
<v Speaker 3>Island to the Mariana Islands. It is or it was

567
00:29:50.279 --> 00:29:53.079
<v Speaker 3>believed to be inhabited by the white race that worshiped

568
00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:57.920
<v Speaker 3>the Sun, believed in immortality, and built cities. The continent

569
00:29:58.000 --> 00:30:00.079
<v Speaker 3>was home to sixty four million people when it was

570
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:03.240
<v Speaker 3>destroyed ten thousand years ago, and only a few survived.

571
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<v Speaker 3>Church Word died in la on January fourth, nineteen thirty six.

572
00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:12.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, and so this is when my research kind of

573
00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:12.920
<v Speaker 2>took the dip.

574
00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:16.240
<v Speaker 1>I was with them for a minute there until it

575
00:30:16.359 --> 00:30:20.000
<v Speaker 1>said that it was inhabited by a white race that

576
00:30:20.200 --> 00:30:24.200
<v Speaker 1>in and of itself led me down that other rabbit hole,

577
00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:27.839
<v Speaker 1>because I really wanted to see what there was about

578
00:30:27.880 --> 00:30:30.039
<v Speaker 1>the lost continent of Mew. There had to be more

579
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:33.240
<v Speaker 1>than just him, Right, what about that language then a

580
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:34.799
<v Speaker 1>call language or whatever else?

581
00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Right?

582
00:30:35.880 --> 00:30:38.319
<v Speaker 1>So the problem is that as I look up Nicall,

583
00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:44.200
<v Speaker 1>the very first one under it brings up HP Lovecraft,

584
00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:48.359
<v Speaker 1>And then we go into that other rabbit hole of Okay,

585
00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:51.880
<v Speaker 1>now we're getting into the realm of absolute fake and

586
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:52.480
<v Speaker 1>make believe.

587
00:30:53.559 --> 00:30:56.039
<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, and so interesting.

588
00:30:56.920 --> 00:30:58.599
<v Speaker 1>It kind of it kind of threw me off. Now,

589
00:30:58.640 --> 00:30:59.880
<v Speaker 1>I was like, wait a minute, what about that reach

590
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:03.079
<v Speaker 1>that he talked about? Right, So read real quick what

591
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:04.160
<v Speaker 1>a rishi is.

592
00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:08.960
<v Speaker 3>In Indian religions, a rishi is an accomplished and enlightened

593
00:31:09.000 --> 00:31:12.640
<v Speaker 3>person they find mentioned of various They find mentioned in

594
00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:16.400
<v Speaker 3>various Vedic texts. Rishi's are believed to have composed hymns

595
00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:19.799
<v Speaker 3>of the Vedas. The post Vedic tradition of Hinduism regards

596
00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:24.400
<v Speaker 3>the rishi's as great yo great yogis, or sages who,

597
00:31:24.559 --> 00:31:29.359
<v Speaker 3>after intense meditation, realized the supreme truth and eternal knowledge,

598
00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:33.359
<v Speaker 3>which they composed into hymns. The term appears in poly

599
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:41.519
<v Speaker 3>literature as ishi. In Buddhism, they can be either Buddha's paseka,

600
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:46.720
<v Speaker 3>buddhas a rahats, or a monk of a high rank. Okay,

601
00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:50.319
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I knew I've heard of the rishi's before,

602
00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:52.079
<v Speaker 3>you know, and it yeah, it makes sense that it

603
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:54.279
<v Speaker 3>would be a great yogi or sage, okay.

604
00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:57.119
<v Speaker 1>And so it makes sense also that in he did

605
00:31:57.119 --> 00:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>in fact go to India, that is true. And so

606
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:02.039
<v Speaker 1>he did in fact meet up with some people. But

607
00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:07.119
<v Speaker 1>he was a Scottish writer. He also, come to find out,

608
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:10.400
<v Speaker 1>was really good friends with a couple of other people

609
00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:14.599
<v Speaker 1>of Scottish and Irish writing that were members of the

610
00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:18.839
<v Speaker 1>OTO who were also writing literature at this time. And

611
00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:23.240
<v Speaker 1>claiming that it was some far east, uh found lost

612
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:26.759
<v Speaker 1>knowledge kind of find out he was friends with Lubotsky.

613
00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:28.960
<v Speaker 2>And it's a whole thing. It's a whole thing.

614
00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:31.480
<v Speaker 3>Back in these times, it wasn't that crazy to be

615
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:35.200
<v Speaker 3>in a brotherhood, like a secret society, like it was

616
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:38.200
<v Speaker 3>mainly just a bunch of brotherhoods who would get together

617
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:41.240
<v Speaker 3>and maybe they would perform, be performing some kind of

618
00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:46.599
<v Speaker 3>you know, occult write or some kind of spell work

619
00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:49.240
<v Speaker 3>or whatever they're doing. But for the most part, I

620
00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:51.480
<v Speaker 3>would say that it was a lot like maybe the

621
00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:56.359
<v Speaker 3>the Freemasonic Brotherhood of today, where people would get together,

622
00:32:56.599 --> 00:32:58.799
<v Speaker 3>maybe they would look and try and see how how

623
00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:01.839
<v Speaker 3>can they better their own lives and maybe maybe throw

624
00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:05.160
<v Speaker 3>on a black cloak and light some candles or some shit.

625
00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:07.680
<v Speaker 3>But for the most part, I would look at these as,

626
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:08.799
<v Speaker 3>you know, kind of harmless.

627
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:11.559
<v Speaker 2>Personally, you would think so.

628
00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:14.480
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying that every member of every organization

629
00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:17.359
<v Speaker 1>has got malicious intent, right, But that's the problem. When

630
00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:19.319
<v Speaker 1>you look at the OTO, you also have to mention

631
00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Alistair Crowley, who was somebody who was doing evil for

632
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:26.960
<v Speaker 1>evil intent. There's other contemporaries of his that claimed that

633
00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:29.839
<v Speaker 1>they were doing the same thing. So it sucks that

634
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:32.039
<v Speaker 1>one bad apple will ruin the bunch. But that does

635
00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:34.599
<v Speaker 1>in fact kind of be like that. But again, and

636
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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that he was.

637
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<v Speaker 2>A member of OTO.

638
00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that he was really, really, really tight friends

639
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<v Speaker 1>with multiple writers who also were high up in the OTO.

640
00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:47.119
<v Speaker 2>So far Eastern new ways.

641
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:50.039
<v Speaker 1>Of thinking, lost information, things that nobody had ever heard

642
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:55.119
<v Speaker 1>about before. This played in very very well. Now the

643
00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:58.640
<v Speaker 1>recent history of it right. The history documentary we just

644
00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:01.680
<v Speaker 1>watched the second a little five minute that brought up Nanmadal,

645
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:05.160
<v Speaker 1>now Nana Medal is fascinating for multiple reasons.

646
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:06.359
<v Speaker 2>We have talked about it before.

647
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:09.719
<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, these these long not cylindrical,

648
00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:13.360
<v Speaker 1>but they're oblong carved stones that were stacked almost like

649
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:17.239
<v Speaker 1>Lincoln logs. But they're stone on this random island in

650
00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:21.079
<v Speaker 1>the Pacific, and that's fascinating for so many reasons. So

651
00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:23.599
<v Speaker 1>I did a little digging on that one as well,

652
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:26.559
<v Speaker 1>because as they brought it up, I was curious what

653
00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:29.760
<v Speaker 1>the quote unquote official narrative of this was. Come to

654
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:32.960
<v Speaker 1>find out, the United States National Park Services has an

655
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:36.119
<v Speaker 1>entire page dedicated to it, and the story of it

656
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:39.880
<v Speaker 1>is actually pretty fascinating as well. But it's also been

657
00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:42.480
<v Speaker 1>confirmed for a few different reasons, and that kind of

658
00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:45.960
<v Speaker 1>discredits the Lost Island of Mew conversation.

659
00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:47.039
<v Speaker 2>So let's dig in.

660
00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:49.239
<v Speaker 3>By the way, I do want to say too, something

661
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:53.559
<v Speaker 3>that I've been discovering on my journey here, not only

662
00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:56.280
<v Speaker 3>as a podcaster, but maybe as a maybe even a

663
00:34:56.280 --> 00:34:59.400
<v Speaker 3>spiritual kind of person who likes to look into a

664
00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:03.599
<v Speaker 3>lot of secret societies and ancient wisdoms and stuff like that.

665
00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:07.760
<v Speaker 3>Is is once you start getting into you know, older

666
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:11.320
<v Speaker 3>literature of people who have been involved in some kind

667
00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:14.719
<v Speaker 3>of secret societies. We've gone over a couple of them.

668
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:18.119
<v Speaker 3>It seems to me, and I could be wrong on this,

669
00:35:18.199 --> 00:35:20.360
<v Speaker 3>but I feel like I'm picking up what they're putting down.

670
00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:25.400
<v Speaker 3>Whenever they talk on you know, ancient sites, ancient lands,

671
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:29.920
<v Speaker 3>and even certain star systems and certain planetary alignments and

672
00:35:29.960 --> 00:35:32.400
<v Speaker 3>stuff like that. It seems to me that a lot

673
00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:35.239
<v Speaker 3>of this stuff it doesn't necessarily have to be one

674
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:38.719
<v Speaker 3>hundred percent true, because I think that they're just using

675
00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:43.199
<v Speaker 3>it as a symbol within their occult magic. That's my

676
00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:47.119
<v Speaker 3>personal belief that I think that, you know, And just

677
00:35:47.159 --> 00:35:51.679
<v Speaker 3>for example, whenever me and Sean read The Magickian, which

678
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:54.239
<v Speaker 3>written by this guy named Philip Cooper. He had a

679
00:35:54.280 --> 00:36:00.920
<v Speaker 3>great understanding of certain occult and magic and spell work

680
00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:04.199
<v Speaker 3>and you know, Building your Temple and all that fun jazz,

681
00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:05.880
<v Speaker 3>which was a great book, and I feel like I

682
00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:08.880
<v Speaker 3>kind of, you know, I understand a lot more about

683
00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:11.599
<v Speaker 3>this kind of stuff, you know, which I think helps

684
00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:13.719
<v Speaker 3>with the cult because we go over a lot of

685
00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:16.280
<v Speaker 3>occult stuff. But one thing that he said in that

686
00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:20.639
<v Speaker 3>book was Whenever he's talking about certain planetary alignments and stuff,

687
00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:23.679
<v Speaker 3>he doesn't necessarily believe that there's an energy that is

688
00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:26.960
<v Speaker 3>coming from the stars and is directly affecting you in

689
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:29.760
<v Speaker 3>his mind. He's just using it as a symbol for

690
00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:33.320
<v Speaker 3>his subconscious mind work, that is the temple within your

691
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:35.840
<v Speaker 3>own mind. So that's a way of looking at it.

692
00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:37.639
<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying that that's how they all do it,

693
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:40.239
<v Speaker 3>but that was his way of interpreting it, and that

694
00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:42.599
<v Speaker 3>is my way of like looking at it. You know,

695
00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:44.159
<v Speaker 3>at least right now.

696
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:47.039
<v Speaker 1>I could say at least the people of the day

697
00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:49.840
<v Speaker 1>and age of the eighteen hundreds didn't see it that way.

698
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:53.840
<v Speaker 1>They were physically doing things to get physical results at least.

699
00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:57.679
<v Speaker 1>And again I'm not saying every single person associated with

700
00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:00.440
<v Speaker 1>some sort of a high wizard, Okay, like the level

701
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:03.559
<v Speaker 1>person is like the entry level person. Just because they

702
00:37:03.559 --> 00:37:07.039
<v Speaker 1>happen to be somebody famous doesn't make them immediately controlled

703
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:07.920
<v Speaker 1>by and da da da da.

704
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:08.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

705
00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:10.679
<v Speaker 3>Well, that's where it gets into the whole idea of

706
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:14.079
<v Speaker 3>I mean placebo. This is where I think that it

707
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:16.679
<v Speaker 3>really starts to play into it. Like if you really

708
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:20.800
<v Speaker 3>if you're I don't know. Let's say you're outside, you know,

709
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:23.639
<v Speaker 3>and you're practicing some moon magic or something like that,

710
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:26.719
<v Speaker 3>and you know, mercury also happens to be in retrograde,

711
00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:30.079
<v Speaker 3>So in your the temple of your mind, you're performing

712
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:32.960
<v Speaker 3>this magic as if mercury is having an effect on

713
00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:37.480
<v Speaker 3>your body, and subconsciously you eventually, you know, accept that

714
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:40.760
<v Speaker 3>you're doing it in the right you know, star climate

715
00:37:41.079 --> 00:37:44.679
<v Speaker 3>that now it makes it more accessible and more possible

716
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:48.079
<v Speaker 3>for whatever kind of religious right that you're trying to

717
00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:51.519
<v Speaker 3>carry out. And so, I mean, that's a way of

718
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:54.039
<v Speaker 3>looking at it, but I'm not gonna say it's the

719
00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:56.320
<v Speaker 3>way for everybody. I think that a lot of it

720
00:37:56.400 --> 00:37:58.840
<v Speaker 3>just has to do with the subconscious mind, dude. And

721
00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:02.760
<v Speaker 3>because there is is like the symbolism. We We've gone

722
00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:06.639
<v Speaker 3>through symbolism plenty of times before where it doesn't this

723
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:09.360
<v Speaker 3>like you know, they'll use a sword or a cup,

724
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:11.599
<v Speaker 3>or a wand or a shield, or you know, they

725
00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:14.800
<v Speaker 3>use certain things that are they they're only symbols. And

726
00:38:14.920 --> 00:38:18.480
<v Speaker 3>even right now I have I have incense like burning

727
00:38:18.559 --> 00:38:22.239
<v Speaker 3>right now, white sage incense. It's my favorite one. And personally,

728
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:26.639
<v Speaker 3>whenever they teach you to whenever you're meditating or even

729
00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:31.280
<v Speaker 3>within certain occult like behavior where you're trying to you know,

730
00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:33.599
<v Speaker 3>set up your temple. They say that the and this

731
00:38:33.679 --> 00:38:36.000
<v Speaker 3>is just an example, but they say that whenever you

732
00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:38.679
<v Speaker 3>whenever you're doing that kind of stuff, you want to

733
00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:42.079
<v Speaker 3>light an incense, And not because it has any magical

734
00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:45.079
<v Speaker 3>powers or features or anything like that. It's that it

735
00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:49.079
<v Speaker 3>is the smell of it is putting your subconscious and

736
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:52.960
<v Speaker 3>your mind into a zone like in a in a

737
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:55.559
<v Speaker 3>weird way that lets you know that, all right, this

738
00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:58.679
<v Speaker 3>is a magical space. It's not necessarily that it is

739
00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:01.400
<v Speaker 3>a magical space. It's kind that just teaching your mind

740
00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:04.880
<v Speaker 3>to think that it is. And so that's that. I

741
00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:07.079
<v Speaker 3>don't know, that's just kind of I wanted to touch

742
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:09.039
<v Speaker 3>on that. I'm not saying that it necessarily pertains to this.

743
00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:11.159
<v Speaker 3>It's just kind of a little background.

744
00:39:11.920 --> 00:39:14.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So anyway, let's talk about Namadal.

745
00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:19.800
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, as we're talking about an episode about lost continents.

746
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:21.679
<v Speaker 3>And all, you know, yeah, let's get back to that.

747
00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:28.519
<v Speaker 1>So Namodal again is the possible last remnant of the

748
00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:33.519
<v Speaker 1>continent of Mew allegedly. However, there is an official history

749
00:39:33.639 --> 00:39:35.599
<v Speaker 1>of the island and it actually has been kind of

750
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:40.159
<v Speaker 1>fact checked and verified to a degree, but there's some

751
00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:42.519
<v Speaker 1>room for interpretation on this, So let's dig in.

752
00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:46.320
<v Speaker 3>Few historic places in the Pacific are as intriguing as Nanmdal.

753
00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:48.559
<v Speaker 3>The city ruins are on a coral reef and a

754
00:39:48.639 --> 00:39:52.400
<v Speaker 3>lagoon on the tiny island of Temwin, adjacent to the

755
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:57.199
<v Speaker 3>eastern shore of the island of orone pone Pie.

756
00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:00.440
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna fuck up the pronunciations here, y'all, sorry about that.

757
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:03.000
<v Speaker 3>Or I feel like it's probably Pompeii.

758
00:40:03.719 --> 00:40:06.679
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, because that the language of all of

759
00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:10.960
<v Speaker 1>the islands, dude, is very difficult. I would be butchering

760
00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:13.280
<v Speaker 1>it myself. And then when you get to the Polynesian languages,

761
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:17.280
<v Speaker 1>there's only fourteen letters. So that's why it's like Khalikilikilikiliki

762
00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:21.039
<v Speaker 1>is different than Khalikiliki because like they keep adding more

763
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:23.239
<v Speaker 1>syllables of the same thing because they ran out of them.

764
00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:24.320
<v Speaker 2>It's ridiculous.

765
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:27.280
<v Speaker 3>Well, either way, it's adjacent to the eastern shore of

766
00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:30.599
<v Speaker 3>the island of Pompei in the Federated States of Micronesia.

767
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:34.360
<v Speaker 3>Before its abandonment, Namidal was a major political and spiritual

768
00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:38.920
<v Speaker 3>hub for native Pompeiians. Throughout its five hundred year life

769
00:40:38.920 --> 00:40:42.000
<v Speaker 3>from twelve hundred to seventeen hundred, the city served as

770
00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:46.400
<v Speaker 3>a religious center, a royal enclave, a fortress, an urban marketplace,

771
00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:49.800
<v Speaker 3>and the high seat of government for the island of Pompeii.

772
00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:54.320
<v Speaker 3>Relatively unknown outside of Micronesia, the city of Namidal is

773
00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:58.679
<v Speaker 3>a hidden gem of Micronesian history and culture in a

774
00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:02.960
<v Speaker 3>grand site from modern visitors. During its height, Namodal was

775
00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:09.559
<v Speaker 3>the seed of the Suddalor dynasty, which united all of

776
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:14.480
<v Speaker 3>Pompey's estimated twenty five thousand people. The Sandalor were originally

777
00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:18.199
<v Speaker 3>a foreign tribe who came to Pompei and installed themselves

778
00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:21.400
<v Speaker 3>as rulers of the island. The Sandalor first appeared around

779
00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:24.719
<v Speaker 3>the year eleven hundred and built Nanmodal around twelve hundred.

780
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:29.199
<v Speaker 3>According to Pompeian oral history, the first Sandalor to arrive

781
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:34.440
<v Speaker 3>on Pompey were two brothers, al Li Sheepa and Alo

782
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:41.280
<v Speaker 3>Alo Sopa Okay. There were canoe faring sorcerers who received

783
00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:43.719
<v Speaker 3>their powers from the gods and used their magic to

784
00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:48.079
<v Speaker 3>build Nanmdal. This is so impressed or this so impressed

785
00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:51.599
<v Speaker 3>the native Pompeiians, that they invited the Sandalor to marry

786
00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:54.760
<v Speaker 3>into their tribe. When one of the brothers eventually died,

787
00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:59.000
<v Speaker 3>the other declared himself king. The Sandalor built Nanmodal as

788
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:05.440
<v Speaker 3>a temple for the farm god non issown Suppua, the

789
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:07.960
<v Speaker 3>god worshiped by the Sandalor nobility.

790
00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:12.559
<v Speaker 1>All right, so right off top, there's some room for interpretation.

791
00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:15.679
<v Speaker 1>We got some master builders coming up on a canoe,

792
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:19.639
<v Speaker 1>some sorcery going down, and that these people basically just

793
00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:23.039
<v Speaker 1>asked these visitors to marry in and then become a

794
00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:25.719
<v Speaker 1>king when one of them died, and all that stuff,

795
00:42:26.239 --> 00:42:29.880
<v Speaker 1>and all of that is that room for interpretation. Who's

796
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:35.679
<v Speaker 1>to say, right, However, even orally they have understood that

797
00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:39.639
<v Speaker 1>this was built in twelve hundred AD, So like, even

798
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:42.719
<v Speaker 1>orally speaking, they don't believe that this is like thousands

799
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:45.480
<v Speaker 1>of years old lost history any of that. They believe

800
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:48.840
<v Speaker 1>that this was like they're relatively recent ancestors that built this.

801
00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:50.840
<v Speaker 1>It would be the same as us like looking at

802
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:54.719
<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame and saying like, yeah, the European ancestors built that,

803
00:42:54.880 --> 00:42:57.119
<v Speaker 1>and they have pictures and they have depictions and the

804
00:42:57.119 --> 00:43:00.360
<v Speaker 1>blueprints and all this stuff. About it, right, So that's

805
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:03.119
<v Speaker 1>where it kind of like, all right, is the island

806
00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:07.960
<v Speaker 1>necessarily a remnant of Mew but not necessarily because it's

807
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:09.639
<v Speaker 1>built on top of a coral reef.

808
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:11.960
<v Speaker 2>The reef has been there for forever.

809
00:43:12.599 --> 00:43:16.400
<v Speaker 1>This island was built on top of it, allegedly in

810
00:43:16.440 --> 00:43:17.719
<v Speaker 1>the year twelve hundred eight D.

811
00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:20.440
<v Speaker 3>So that's if you want to believe. That's if you

812
00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:21.719
<v Speaker 3>want to believe oral tradition.

813
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:26.119
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, there's probably that kernel of truth somewhere. Now,

814
00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:29.679
<v Speaker 1>does the person who is passing down the story remember

815
00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:32.960
<v Speaker 1>exactly in the year of Our Lord twelve hundred eight

816
00:43:33.000 --> 00:43:35.639
<v Speaker 1>D and all this, Like I don't know, right, how

817
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:39.440
<v Speaker 1>did they say that? Was it this many lunar cycles?

818
00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:41.559
<v Speaker 1>This many times this star has been in this position,

819
00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:44.079
<v Speaker 1>and that's how they juxtaposed the actual date on it.

820
00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Who's to say, but at least they know that it

821
00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:49.400
<v Speaker 1>wasn't like pre it what in BC.

822
00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:55.320
<v Speaker 3>Right? Right? Yeah, yeah, for sure, I mean, who's to say, dude,

823
00:43:55.360 --> 00:43:58.760
<v Speaker 3>There's there's even been like weirder ways of counting days

824
00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:01.480
<v Speaker 3>and weeks and months and years, and like, you know,

825
00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:04.000
<v Speaker 3>I just found out this thing, a fun little side

826
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:06.840
<v Speaker 3>thing here. I just found out the ways in which

827
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:10.199
<v Speaker 3>people back in the day, they would they would count

828
00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:14.039
<v Speaker 3>a dozen in one hand. So like for all the

829
00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:17.119
<v Speaker 3>Patreon watchers, you would do like, all right, so all

830
00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:21.079
<v Speaker 3>of your your first four fingers excluding your thumb, they

831
00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:24.840
<v Speaker 3>all have three little slits in them, right, and so

832
00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:28.480
<v Speaker 3>you would count the pinky one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,

833
00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:31.239
<v Speaker 3>eight nine, and so four times three would be twelve,

834
00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:34.039
<v Speaker 3>And so you would have twelve and a twelve in

835
00:44:34.119 --> 00:44:36.039
<v Speaker 3>one hand. And then if you wanted to add the

836
00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:40.000
<v Speaker 3>Baker's dozen, you'd throw in the thumb bro and.

837
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Counting the creases on the hand. I never thought about that.

838
00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:44.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, pretty neat.

839
00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:45.639
<v Speaker 2>That's fucking wild.

840
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:48.199
<v Speaker 1>But okay, so again we're talking about these crazy oral

841
00:44:48.199 --> 00:44:50.280
<v Speaker 1>traditions and how they got passed down. What do we

842
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:53.360
<v Speaker 1>have as far as real dates on anything, Well, at

843
00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:56.840
<v Speaker 1>least right here we have in sixteen twenty eight, we

844
00:44:56.920 --> 00:45:00.000
<v Speaker 1>have an actual year associated with something happening at Namad.

845
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:07.760
<v Speaker 3>In sixteen twenty eight, the warrior hero iso Kekel Isokellkel.

846
00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:13.480
<v Speaker 3>I love these names. The warrior hero Isokellkel led an

847
00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:19.199
<v Speaker 3>invasion on Pompeii and defeated the s Sedular tribe Pompeiian

848
00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:22.800
<v Speaker 3>oral history says that Isokellkel was a demigod and the

849
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:28.440
<v Speaker 3>vengeful son of the Pompeiian storm god Non Soapwa, who

850
00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:33.039
<v Speaker 3>had grown unhappy with the tyranny of Nnison. Sapua and

851
00:45:33.119 --> 00:45:37.480
<v Speaker 3>the Sedular historians believe that Isokellkel was the leader of

852
00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:42.119
<v Speaker 3>a band of micro Micronesian settlers from the nearby island

853
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:47.400
<v Speaker 3>of Causre. Isokellkel led his war band of warriors, women

854
00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:50.440
<v Speaker 3>and children in victory with the assistance of the oppressed

855
00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:56.079
<v Speaker 3>Pompeiian populace. With the defeat of the Sandalore Non medal

856
00:45:56.159 --> 00:46:00.599
<v Speaker 3>significance of Pon to Pompeiians slowly eroded. In was eventually

857
00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:02.280
<v Speaker 3>abandoned in the eighteenth century.

858
00:46:03.400 --> 00:46:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so basically, as soon as it was built, it

859
00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:09.480
<v Speaker 1>was inhabited, and it didn't stop being inhabited until the

860
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:14.960
<v Speaker 1>seventeen hundreds. Now, before we get into Lemyria, as far

861
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:18.320
<v Speaker 1>as the lost continent of mew goes, I'm not saying

862
00:46:18.320 --> 00:46:20.320
<v Speaker 1>that it one hundred percent does not exist.

863
00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, It's very possible that it exists.

864
00:46:23.559 --> 00:46:26.320
<v Speaker 1>I am saying that the only written history, the earliest

865
00:46:26.320 --> 00:46:28.599
<v Speaker 1>written history of it that we have came from a

866
00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:32.079
<v Speaker 1>Scottish writer with no archaeological background, who allegedly got this

867
00:46:32.199 --> 00:46:37.760
<v Speaker 1>information from a Hindu a resi from clay tablets, claiming

868
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:40.639
<v Speaker 1>to be the lost brotherhood of something that doesn't exist,

869
00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:43.239
<v Speaker 1>And when you search it, it immediately pulls you into HP.

870
00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Lovecraft.

871
00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:47.639
<v Speaker 1>So does it mean that there's no lost continent out

872
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:49.599
<v Speaker 1>there in the in the Pacific Ocean.

873
00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:50.039
<v Speaker 9>No?

874
00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:53.679
<v Speaker 1>Does it mean that it's the story of mew as

875
00:46:53.719 --> 00:46:56.159
<v Speaker 1>we have been led to believe from certain sources in

876
00:46:56.199 --> 00:46:56.920
<v Speaker 1>the history channel.

877
00:46:57.440 --> 00:46:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Probably not.

878
00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:01.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, especially whenever you get into the whole white race

879
00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:04.239
<v Speaker 3>kind of thing. That's very you know, going into the

880
00:47:04.280 --> 00:47:08.440
<v Speaker 3>arians of Hitler, it's going into you know, Atlantis was

881
00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:12.559
<v Speaker 3>all like white people, or not necessarily white, but what

882
00:47:12.639 --> 00:47:16.800
<v Speaker 3>were they? Colonial people? Right and not savages?

883
00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Right exactly. And see, you got to look at the time,

884
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:23.280
<v Speaker 1>place and audience. Right in the eighteen hundreds when he

885
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:26.679
<v Speaker 1>wrote these books, slavery was still in effect in a

886
00:47:26.719 --> 00:47:30.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of countries. Right, the Civil War had I'm drawing

887
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:31.719
<v Speaker 1>a blank on when he had wrote the book, but

888
00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:33.559
<v Speaker 1>the Civil War had probably just drawn to a close.

889
00:47:33.599 --> 00:47:36.079
<v Speaker 1>There was a lot of racial divide within not just America,

890
00:47:36.119 --> 00:47:36.960
<v Speaker 1>but a lot of Europe.

891
00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:41.119
<v Speaker 2>And I could understand why they would say that this

892
00:47:41.360 --> 00:47:43.280
<v Speaker 2>enlightened race had to be white and all these things.

893
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Eugenics was a normal conversation to be had at the

894
00:47:46.519 --> 00:47:49.800
<v Speaker 1>dinner table about how certain races shouldn't be allowed to breed.

895
00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:53.599
<v Speaker 1>That was a normal dinner conversation in most households in

896
00:47:53.639 --> 00:47:56.960
<v Speaker 1>a certain day and age. Now, that's disgusting and abhorrent,

897
00:47:57.480 --> 00:48:00.840
<v Speaker 1>and we know this now, but apparently back then, in

898
00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:02.760
<v Speaker 1>their mindset, this was normal.

899
00:48:03.920 --> 00:48:06.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it makes sense, I mean. And the thing is

900
00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:11.800
<v Speaker 3>is that I'm not one to hate on our ancestors

901
00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:16.000
<v Speaker 3>in history because maybe they seemed, you know, racist, or

902
00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:18.679
<v Speaker 3>they were slave owners or something like that. You got

903
00:48:18.800 --> 00:48:21.440
<v Speaker 3>to look at it, dude, like times are always changing,

904
00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:25.599
<v Speaker 3>and like the context is always so important, especially whenever

905
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:29.079
<v Speaker 3>it comes to history, and so tearing down statues of

906
00:48:29.079 --> 00:48:32.000
<v Speaker 3>fucking Thomas Jefferson because he had because he had a slave,

907
00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:36.000
<v Speaker 3>it's like, dude, like almost everybody did you know what

908
00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:40.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean? Like, if you were of importance, if you

909
00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:44.000
<v Speaker 3>had some sway over the people, you probably had the help.

910
00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:47.880
<v Speaker 3>And I'm of course like that's unacceptable now, but that

911
00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:50.480
<v Speaker 3>was acceptable back then. And so we can't just try

912
00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:53.519
<v Speaker 3>and erase history because it's racist or anything like that.

913
00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:55.840
<v Speaker 3>History is history. You can agree with it or you

914
00:48:55.840 --> 00:48:58.639
<v Speaker 3>can disagree with it, but it will always be history.

915
00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:01.920
<v Speaker 3>And whenever we try and go erasing history, then you

916
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:05.000
<v Speaker 3>get crazy stories like this popping up because now nobody

917
00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:08.480
<v Speaker 3>knows the history and everybody's drawing off their imagination. Like,

918
00:49:08.599 --> 00:49:11.800
<v Speaker 3>let's try and keep history around. You know, as as

919
00:49:11.960 --> 00:49:15.599
<v Speaker 3>like fucked as it may be, it is still history.

920
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:17.679
<v Speaker 2>But yes, we do need to learn history.

921
00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:19.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you said it, because you have said so

922
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:21.119
<v Speaker 1>many times why is history important?

923
00:49:21.199 --> 00:49:21.599
<v Speaker 2>It is.

924
00:49:21.719 --> 00:49:24.639
<v Speaker 1>However, you have to look at it through a lens.

925
00:49:25.079 --> 00:49:27.239
<v Speaker 1>You have to look at it through context. Because if

926
00:49:27.280 --> 00:49:29.920
<v Speaker 1>we read those history books, the good guys have always

927
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:32.880
<v Speaker 1>won one hundred percent of the time. Yeah, right, and

928
00:49:33.320 --> 00:49:35.920
<v Speaker 1>nothing has ever been out of sorts. The story is

929
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:38.400
<v Speaker 1>exactly as they've told us, one hundred percent. No, that's

930
00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:40.840
<v Speaker 1>not a correct way to look at things either. We

931
00:49:40.960 --> 00:49:42.519
<v Speaker 1>have to look at it. We have to keep our

932
00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:45.320
<v Speaker 1>feet on the ground, yet our head in the clouds.

933
00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Let's try to look at it from the optimistic point

934
00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:49.119
<v Speaker 1>of view. Let's try to look at it for the

935
00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:52.159
<v Speaker 1>reality of it. But you're right, history is very rarely.

936
00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Pretty yeah, in the reality of the situation, No, we

937
00:49:54.840 --> 00:49:58.280
<v Speaker 1>hear of these glorious wars, these glorious battles where this

938
00:49:58.400 --> 00:49:59.559
<v Speaker 1>man came out victorious.

939
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:01.519
<v Speaker 2>You understand, like thousands.

940
00:50:01.159 --> 00:50:05.039
<v Speaker 1>Of dudes cleaved themselves to death with enlarged knives, and

941
00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:07.079
<v Speaker 1>that's how this glorious story came.

942
00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Like, yo, very rarely is history pretty right?

943
00:50:11.599 --> 00:50:14.639
<v Speaker 3>Right? And just because just because we may have certain

944
00:50:14.679 --> 00:50:17.960
<v Speaker 3>emotions about history, we disagree with it, we don't like it,

945
00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:19.559
<v Speaker 3>we don't want to stand up for it, we don't

946
00:50:19.559 --> 00:50:23.840
<v Speaker 3>want to believe it because of its disgusting nature or whatever, like,

947
00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:27.719
<v Speaker 3>it still happened. And you know, and and I get

948
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:29.039
<v Speaker 3>that you do want to look at it through a

949
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:31.760
<v Speaker 3>certain context, but you don't necessarily have to look at

950
00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:34.480
<v Speaker 3>it like, oh, well, it must be the right way

951
00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:38.079
<v Speaker 3>because that's how they did it. It's like not necessarily

952
00:50:38.119 --> 00:50:39.280
<v Speaker 3>always so cut and dry.

953
00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes yes, sometimes absolutely the way they used to do

954
00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:47.599
<v Speaker 1>it was the better way, the correct way, sometimes not.

955
00:50:48.159 --> 00:50:50.400
<v Speaker 3>Given the day and age, and you know, the tools

956
00:50:50.440 --> 00:50:52.480
<v Speaker 3>and the knowledge that they had, they did the best

957
00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:53.280
<v Speaker 3>with what they.

958
00:50:53.119 --> 00:50:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Did, absolutely, and then you look at what they were

959
00:50:55.840 --> 00:50:58.119
<v Speaker 1>able to accomplish with the means that they had at

960
00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:01.000
<v Speaker 1>that time, and it is mine blowing and that's how

961
00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:04.000
<v Speaker 1>you see these things, and you're like, bro, humans clearly

962
00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:06.519
<v Speaker 1>had more going for them at certain points in time

963
00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:08.679
<v Speaker 1>than we do now. But then you see the things

964
00:51:08.679 --> 00:51:11.920
<v Speaker 1>we're able to do, and it's like, there's there's obvious breakdowns,

965
00:51:11.960 --> 00:51:13.559
<v Speaker 1>there's obvious gaps.

966
00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:14.079
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

967
00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:17.119
<v Speaker 1>And another one of these big gaps leads us to

968
00:51:17.159 --> 00:51:22.079
<v Speaker 1>our next conversation about the lost continent of Lamria, because

969
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:24.320
<v Speaker 1>this is one of those where it falls in the middle.

970
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:28.039
<v Speaker 1>We got Mew, which is pretty much completely falsified at

971
00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:31.400
<v Speaker 1>this time. We have dogger Land that is completely confirmed

972
00:51:31.400 --> 00:51:34.800
<v Speaker 1>to be true in all way, shapes and forms, and

973
00:51:34.840 --> 00:51:38.519
<v Speaker 1>we got Lamiria. Lamiria is this weird example of one

974
00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:42.440
<v Speaker 1>that has been quote unquote confirmed false yet recently has

975
00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:45.280
<v Speaker 1>been discovered to probably have a lot more going for

976
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:49.760
<v Speaker 1>it than what we originally believed. But but because certain

977
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:52.159
<v Speaker 1>people who come out to be pieces of shit later

978
00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:55.840
<v Speaker 1>on referenced it, it threw more spirals into the mix.

979
00:51:56.320 --> 00:51:59.320
<v Speaker 2>So are you ready to dive into the land of Limeria?

980
00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:01.039
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, let's go, dude.

981
00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:08.519
<v Speaker 10>No matter where you currently reside in Africa, Asia, Australia, Europe,

982
00:52:08.920 --> 00:52:14.800
<v Speaker 10>North or South America, or even Antarctica. You've probably been

983
00:52:14.840 --> 00:52:17.880
<v Speaker 10>taught these seven continents of the world in school, but

984
00:52:18.400 --> 00:52:21.480
<v Speaker 10>did you know there might just have been another continent.

985
00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:25.199
<v Speaker 10>Ever since the days of the Greeks, people have tried

986
00:52:25.239 --> 00:52:29.559
<v Speaker 10>to prove that thriving civilizations once existed on huge islands

987
00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:33.039
<v Speaker 10>that have since sunk beneath the sea. And if you're

988
00:52:33.079 --> 00:52:37.000
<v Speaker 10>guessing Atlantis, then you might be surprised to know Atlantis

989
00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:41.519
<v Speaker 10>isn't the only once great civilization to have allegedly sunk

990
00:52:41.559 --> 00:52:46.719
<v Speaker 10>beneath the waves. We're talking about the lost continent of Limuria.

991
00:52:49.159 --> 00:52:52.360
<v Speaker 10>In the mid eighteen hundreds, a few scientists, working from

992
00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:56.400
<v Speaker 10>scant evidence, theorized that there once was a lost continent

993
00:52:56.519 --> 00:53:00.679
<v Speaker 10>in the Indian Ocean, and they called it Limuria Limuria.

994
00:53:01.159 --> 00:53:04.639
<v Speaker 10>What started as a straight lay scientific theory ended up

995
00:53:04.679 --> 00:53:09.400
<v Speaker 10>attracting all sorts of true believers, from Victorian occultists to

996
00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:10.800
<v Speaker 10>Indian nationalists.

997
00:53:11.000 --> 00:53:13.559
<v Speaker 1>I'll say that that's also quite interesting that it brought

998
00:53:13.639 --> 00:53:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Victorian era occultists into the same conversation as Indian nationalists.

999
00:53:20.199 --> 00:53:21.960
<v Speaker 2>This is a wild one, brother, it really is.

1000
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:25.159
<v Speaker 3>I can't say that I'm surprised like that kind of

1001
00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:27.559
<v Speaker 3>just brings back to what I was referencing to earlier,

1002
00:53:27.599 --> 00:53:29.440
<v Speaker 3>that I think that people just use this for their

1003
00:53:29.480 --> 00:53:35.000
<v Speaker 3>occult behavior and not necessarily historical, you know, realness.

1004
00:53:35.960 --> 00:53:39.159
<v Speaker 1>But this is one where there is at least that

1005
00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:41.679
<v Speaker 1>shred of historical realness with it.

1006
00:53:42.239 --> 00:53:44.360
<v Speaker 2>So let's keep going on.

1007
00:53:44.280 --> 00:53:47.639
<v Speaker 10>This lost continent. Some even thought there once lived a

1008
00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:51.519
<v Speaker 10>race of now extinct humans called Limurians, who had fore

1009
00:53:51.719 --> 00:53:56.599
<v Speaker 10>arms and enormous hermaphroditic bodies, but nevertheless are the ancestors

1010
00:53:56.599 --> 00:54:00.840
<v Speaker 10>of modern day humans and perhaps also nemurs. The story

1011
00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:04.840
<v Speaker 10>of Limuria begins with the British zoologists named Philip Sclater,

1012
00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:08.559
<v Speaker 10>who wrote an essay in eighteen sixty four called the

1013
00:54:08.559 --> 00:54:13.199
<v Speaker 10>Mammals of Madagascar and It. Sclater wondered how Madagascar, an

1014
00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:16.400
<v Speaker 10>island off the eastern coast of Africa, could be home

1015
00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:21.440
<v Speaker 10>to dozens of species of small catlike primates leamers, while

1016
00:54:21.440 --> 00:54:25.000
<v Speaker 10>the entire continents of Africa and India had what Sclater

1017
00:54:25.159 --> 00:54:28.760
<v Speaker 10>believed to be only a few species of lemurs. Kingian

1018
00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:30.880
<v Speaker 10>Africa and India.

1019
00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:35.320
<v Speaker 3>Segan, no, I was just making a joke, King Julian Ah,

1020
00:54:35.480 --> 00:54:37.800
<v Speaker 3>King Julian absolutely.

1021
00:54:38.320 --> 00:54:41.719
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, had no true lemurs at all, but Slater grouped

1022
00:54:41.760 --> 00:54:45.280
<v Speaker 10>some other big eyed primates as lemurs. This was long

1023
00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:50.280
<v Speaker 10>before plate tectonics and continental drift, or household words. Plate

1024
00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:54.840
<v Speaker 10>tectonics didn't gain traction until the nineteen twenties, so Sklater's

1025
00:54:54.920 --> 00:54:59.159
<v Speaker 10>best guess was that lemurs originated on Madagascar and migrated

1026
00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:02.280
<v Speaker 10>to Africa and India over a vast land bridge the

1027
00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:06.639
<v Speaker 10>size of a great continent. Sclater wrote, I should propose

1028
00:55:06.679 --> 00:55:12.039
<v Speaker 10>the name Limuria, naming the hypothetical continent after his fari friends.

1029
00:55:13.639 --> 00:55:17.239
<v Speaker 10>Charles Darwin published On the Origin of Species in eighteen

1030
00:55:17.320 --> 00:55:21.000
<v Speaker 10>fifty nine, and for those who accepted his controversial theory

1031
00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:24.760
<v Speaker 10>of natural selection, there was one burning question, where and

1032
00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:29.119
<v Speaker 10>when did the human race first emerge? In a popular

1033
00:55:29.159 --> 00:55:33.880
<v Speaker 10>book titled Tistory of Creation, an influential German biologist named

1034
00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:36.920
<v Speaker 10>Ernest Hakel peddled his own theories of evolution.

1035
00:55:37.480 --> 00:55:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Name it real quick, real quick.

1036
00:55:38.960 --> 00:55:41.039
<v Speaker 1>We're going to talk more about Ernest Hakel here in

1037
00:55:41.079 --> 00:55:42.920
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, but before.

1038
00:55:42.679 --> 00:55:45.199
<v Speaker 2>We talk about what he's about to say, keep.

1039
00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:49.719
<v Speaker 1>In mind he is a German scientist in the late

1040
00:55:49.800 --> 00:55:54.360
<v Speaker 1>eighteen hundreds early nineteen hundreds who has theories about evolution.

1041
00:55:56.119 --> 00:55:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Just so we're already taking that not yet, those guys

1042
00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:02.119
<v Speaker 1>didn't come into later, but that was a common theme

1043
00:56:02.159 --> 00:56:04.079
<v Speaker 1>in the culture of certain groups.

1044
00:56:04.119 --> 00:56:04.880
<v Speaker 2>You see what I'm saying.

1045
00:56:04.920 --> 00:56:08.559
<v Speaker 1>Hey, they weren't saying sekta just yet, just yet. The

1046
00:56:08.880 --> 00:56:11.840
<v Speaker 1>socialism movement hadn't taken hold yet, because let's not forget

1047
00:56:12.159 --> 00:56:14.880
<v Speaker 1>the Nazi Party is a socialist party as a matter

1048
00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:17.719
<v Speaker 1>of fact, that's what the Z slash s in Nazi

1049
00:56:17.760 --> 00:56:18.360
<v Speaker 1>stands for.

1050
00:56:18.920 --> 00:56:22.280
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, the precursor to the Nazis possibly.

1051
00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Just you know, one of the scientists that they would

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<v Speaker 1>reference later on, is all I'm gonna say.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's keep going.

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00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:33.239
<v Speaker 3>Maybe Aleman no I was saying, maybe a paper clip gentleman.

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00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:38.199
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe a paperclip gentleman because he was He

1056
00:56:38.280 --> 00:56:41.199
<v Speaker 1>wasn't that type of scientist, right, but he would have

1057
00:56:41.199 --> 00:56:43.400
<v Speaker 1>been the type that would have been listened to as

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00:56:43.400 --> 00:56:46.119
<v Speaker 1>far as what makes certain groups of people better and

1059
00:56:46.159 --> 00:56:48.440
<v Speaker 1>more efficient than others who are subpar.

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00:56:49.679 --> 00:56:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Well.

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00:56:50.039 --> 00:56:52.679
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we know that the Nazis were like heavy

1062
00:56:52.679 --> 00:56:55.239
<v Speaker 3>into the occult, and maybe a lot of their occult

1063
00:56:55.360 --> 00:56:56.719
<v Speaker 3>behavior stems from this guy.

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00:56:56.840 --> 00:56:59.119
<v Speaker 1>Is kind of where I was going okay, all right,

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00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:00.639
<v Speaker 1>i' se where you're going on. Well, I see the

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00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:02.679
<v Speaker 1>connections and it's there one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, all right, let's.

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00:57:04.599 --> 00:57:09.000
<v Speaker 10>Get revolution, naming Slater's lost continent of Limuria as the

1069
00:57:09.159 --> 00:57:13.079
<v Speaker 10>likely cradle of humanity. According to Hegel, there were twelve

1070
00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:16.280
<v Speaker 10>varieties of men, and the first humans to evolve from

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00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:20.119
<v Speaker 10>ancient primates did so on Limuria and spread from there

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00:57:20.199 --> 00:57:25.000
<v Speaker 10>around the globe. Hegel wrote in eighteen seventy the probable

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00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:29.079
<v Speaker 10>primeval home or paradise is here assumed to be Limuria,

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00:57:29.360 --> 00:57:32.599
<v Speaker 10>a tropical continent at present lying below the level of

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00:57:32.599 --> 00:57:35.519
<v Speaker 10>the Indian Ocean, the former existence of which in the

1076
00:57:35.599 --> 00:57:39.719
<v Speaker 10>tertiary period seems very probable from numerous facts and animals

1077
00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:43.880
<v Speaker 10>and vegetable geography. It should be noted that Darwin wasn't

1078
00:57:43.960 --> 00:57:47.400
<v Speaker 10>exactly a fan of land bridges and sunk in continents.

1079
00:57:47.960 --> 00:57:51.079
<v Speaker 10>He once wrote a letter to Charles Leal, a prominent

1080
00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:57.239
<v Speaker 10>geologist who promoted the idea that continents routinely sunk and resurfaced, saying, if.

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<v Speaker 3>There be a lower region for the punishment of geologists,

1082
00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:02.440
<v Speaker 3>I believe, my great master, you will go there.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, all this might seem outlandish, these ideas flourished for

1084
00:58:06.920 --> 00:58:09.840
<v Speaker 10>a time, both in pop culture and some corners of

1085
00:58:09.880 --> 00:58:14.000
<v Speaker 10>the scientific community. Of course, modern science has long since

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00:58:14.039 --> 00:58:16.400
<v Speaker 10>debunked the idea of limoria altogether.

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00:58:16.719 --> 00:58:20.239
<v Speaker 2>They've debunked it allegedly, or.

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00:58:20.199 --> 00:58:24.599
<v Speaker 3>Have they allegedly? I don't know how you necessarily, I

1089
00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:27.400
<v Speaker 3>don't know how you debunk something when you don't have

1090
00:58:27.880 --> 00:58:31.159
<v Speaker 3>all of the facts. Whenever you've only discovered ninety five

1091
00:58:31.320 --> 00:58:33.480
<v Speaker 3>or only discovered five percent of the ocean floor, how

1092
00:58:33.480 --> 00:58:35.880
<v Speaker 3>do you go about debunking something whenever you only have

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00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:38.719
<v Speaker 3>five percent of an idea?

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00:58:39.159 --> 00:58:39.360
<v Speaker 11>You know?

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00:58:39.639 --> 00:58:42.079
<v Speaker 2>Right? Absolutely and all right.

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00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:46.079
<v Speaker 1>So to say that Madagascar at one point connected to Africa,

1097
00:58:46.679 --> 00:58:49.280
<v Speaker 1>that's not a crazy theory. I thought that was understood

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00:58:49.320 --> 00:58:51.079
<v Speaker 1>to be true. So to say that there was a

1099
00:58:51.159 --> 00:58:55.320
<v Speaker 1>lanmbridge connecting that, why is that's not crazy? To say

1100
00:58:55.360 --> 00:58:58.840
<v Speaker 1>that there may have been a lanmbridge connecting it to India.

1101
00:58:58.920 --> 00:58:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Again, you look at it.

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00:59:00.119 --> 00:59:03.519
<v Speaker 1>Which countries, which areas of the world have primates that

1103
00:59:03.599 --> 00:59:08.440
<v Speaker 1>look like they do on Madagascar? A logical scientist again,

1104
00:59:08.480 --> 00:59:11.559
<v Speaker 1>the guy who came up with this idea was a zoologist.

1105
00:59:12.079 --> 00:59:15.440
<v Speaker 2>He was a real professional in this. He wasn't a hobbyist.

1106
00:59:15.719 --> 00:59:19.039
<v Speaker 1>He was making a hypothesis based off of what he saw,

1107
00:59:19.239 --> 00:59:21.559
<v Speaker 1>and it's not a crazy theory, to be honest with you.

1108
00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:25.960
<v Speaker 2>This other guy proposed that that might be where because.

1109
00:59:25.719 --> 00:59:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Again certain sources say that maybe some humans evolved into

1110
00:59:29.880 --> 00:59:31.639
<v Speaker 1>lemurs and some evolved into humans.

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00:59:31.800 --> 00:59:34.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It got a little weird there for

1112
00:59:34.079 --> 00:59:34.320
<v Speaker 2>a bit.

1113
00:59:34.360 --> 00:59:37.039
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, Darwin's theory of evolution had

1114
00:59:37.119 --> 00:59:38.559
<v Speaker 1>just become talking points.

1115
00:59:38.920 --> 00:59:41.519
<v Speaker 2>People were openly questioning whether.

1116
00:59:41.280 --> 00:59:43.559
<v Speaker 1>They believed in the creationism or the darwin as an

1117
00:59:43.599 --> 00:59:47.239
<v Speaker 1>aspect for the first time in human history for the

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00:59:47.280 --> 00:59:47.960
<v Speaker 1>most part.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and to be fair, like if you saw an

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00:59:50.599 --> 00:59:54.400
<v Speaker 3>animal that you knew was like, if you saw an

1121
00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:59.199
<v Speaker 3>animal that you knew was primarily from one area of

1122
00:59:59.239 --> 01:00:01.599
<v Speaker 3>the world, and then you happen to see that same

1123
01:00:01.679 --> 01:00:04.360
<v Speaker 3>animal in another area of the world, you would suspect

1124
01:00:04.360 --> 01:00:06.440
<v Speaker 3>that they there was some kind of land bridge if

1125
01:00:06.480 --> 01:00:10.079
<v Speaker 3>there is a big gap, so like for example a function. Yeah,

1126
01:00:10.119 --> 01:00:12.199
<v Speaker 3>like for example, if you thought that there was a

1127
01:00:12.280 --> 01:00:17.039
<v Speaker 3>land bridge from Australia to Antarctica, for example, and maybe

1128
01:00:17.119 --> 01:00:19.519
<v Speaker 3>you would come to that conclusion because I don't know,

1129
01:00:19.559 --> 01:00:22.039
<v Speaker 3>maybe there's a YETI version of a fucking kangaroo living

1130
01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:24.400
<v Speaker 3>in Antarctica or something along those lines.

1131
01:00:25.239 --> 01:00:27.440
<v Speaker 2>I see what you're going with it. Yeah, one percent,

1132
01:00:27.519 --> 01:00:28.159
<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent.

1133
01:00:28.280 --> 01:00:31.159
<v Speaker 1>Look, there's only certain places on Earth that tigers exist.

1134
01:00:31.760 --> 01:00:34.360
<v Speaker 1>Right If the Earth was wiped out right now and

1135
01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:36.920
<v Speaker 1>they were to do digs later on and somehow found

1136
01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:40.599
<v Speaker 1>tiger fossils in that area of the world, they would

1137
01:00:40.760 --> 01:00:43.559
<v Speaker 1>reasonably assume that tigers lived in that area, and since

1138
01:00:43.599 --> 01:00:46.400
<v Speaker 1>they can't find them anywhere else, they would kind of

1139
01:00:46.400 --> 01:00:47.000
<v Speaker 1>be cool with that.

1140
01:00:47.079 --> 01:00:49.679
<v Speaker 2>Although actually, shit.

1141
01:00:49.599 --> 01:00:51.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean, most of the world's tigers are in fucking

1142
01:00:51.880 --> 01:00:52.679
<v Speaker 3>Texas right now.

1143
01:00:52.920 --> 01:00:54.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I thought about that.

1144
01:00:54.079 --> 01:00:55.840
<v Speaker 1>After I said it, I was like, damn, they're gonna

1145
01:00:55.880 --> 01:00:59.920
<v Speaker 1>think that tigers actually populated Texas and by the number

1146
01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:01.920
<v Speaker 1>as they technically do now.

1147
01:01:01.960 --> 01:01:04.880
<v Speaker 2>But that's I mean, that's kind of like an awesome

1148
01:01:04.880 --> 01:01:05.360
<v Speaker 2>isn't it.

1149
01:01:05.360 --> 01:01:07.440
<v Speaker 3>It is pretty rad. But it's kind of like chicken

1150
01:01:07.519 --> 01:01:09.280
<v Speaker 3>or the egg kind of thing at that point.

1151
01:01:10.039 --> 01:01:13.679
<v Speaker 1>And that's the same game we play, right, That's wild.

1152
01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:18.320
<v Speaker 1>But again they say it's been debunked, but has it really?

1153
01:01:19.920 --> 01:01:24.079
<v Speaker 10>But then in twenty thirteen, geologists discovered evidence of a

1154
01:01:24.159 --> 01:01:28.119
<v Speaker 10>lost continent precisely where Limuria was said to have existed,

1155
01:01:28.679 --> 01:01:32.719
<v Speaker 10>and the old theory started cropping up once again. Soon

1156
01:01:32.880 --> 01:01:36.760
<v Speaker 10>other noted scientists and authors took the Limuria theory and

1157
01:01:36.880 --> 01:01:41.199
<v Speaker 10>ran with it. With help from Hackel, Limuria theories persisted

1158
01:01:41.239 --> 01:01:44.400
<v Speaker 10>throughout the eighteen hundreds and into the early nineteen hundreds.

1159
01:01:45.119 --> 01:01:48.360
<v Speaker 10>This was before modern science discovered ancient human remains in

1160
01:01:48.400 --> 01:01:53.159
<v Speaker 10>Africa that suggested that continent was actually the cradle of humankind.

1161
01:01:53.840 --> 01:01:59.239
<v Speaker 10>This was also before modern seismologists understood plate tectonics. Without

1162
01:01:59.360 --> 01:02:03.079
<v Speaker 10>such knowledge, which many continued to embrace the notion of Limuria,

1163
01:02:03.239 --> 01:02:08.119
<v Speaker 10>especially after Russian occultist medium and author Elena Blavatska Jahn

1164
01:02:08.400 --> 01:02:12.159
<v Speaker 10>published A Secret Doctrine in eighteen eighty eight. This book

1165
01:02:12.199 --> 01:02:15.679
<v Speaker 10>proposed the idea that there was once seven ancient races

1166
01:02:15.679 --> 01:02:18.679
<v Speaker 10>of humanity, and that Limuria had been the home of

1167
01:02:18.679 --> 01:02:22.760
<v Speaker 10>one of them. This fifteen foot tall, fore armed hermaphrodite

1168
01:02:22.960 --> 01:02:26.960
<v Speaker 10>race flourished alongside the dinosaurs fringe theories.

1169
01:02:27.000 --> 01:02:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Even if we are to believe that dinosaurs are not

1170
01:02:30.119 --> 01:02:33.320
<v Speaker 1>fag and gay. With that, with that assumption, of course,

1171
01:02:33.880 --> 01:02:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Madam Blovotsky was speaking about things if we are to

1172
01:02:37.880 --> 01:02:41.320
<v Speaker 1>assume that they're not faking gay Okay.

1173
01:02:41.960 --> 01:02:47.400
<v Speaker 10>Suggested that these Lemurians evolved into lemurs we have today. Afterward,

1174
01:02:47.639 --> 01:02:51.719
<v Speaker 10>Lemuria understandably found its way into novels, movies, and comic

1175
01:02:51.719 --> 01:02:55.559
<v Speaker 10>books well into the nineteen forties. Many people saw these

1176
01:02:55.559 --> 01:02:59.079
<v Speaker 10>works of fiction and wondered where authors and filmmakers got

1177
01:02:59.079 --> 01:03:03.559
<v Speaker 10>these fanciful lighted Well, they got their ideas from scientists

1178
01:03:03.599 --> 01:03:08.559
<v Speaker 10>and writers about seventy five years before. But can there

1179
01:03:08.559 --> 01:03:14.159
<v Speaker 10>be a possibility that lu Warria was real in twos.

1180
01:03:13.599 --> 01:03:16.719
<v Speaker 1>So just throwing that out here to answer the question

1181
01:03:16.760 --> 01:03:20.159
<v Speaker 1>that we proposed earlier. All of these writers in the

1182
01:03:20.360 --> 01:03:23.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds, where do

1183
01:03:23.079 --> 01:03:26.400
<v Speaker 1>they get all of these crazy concepts from. They got

1184
01:03:26.400 --> 01:03:30.400
<v Speaker 1>it from scientists about seventy years prior, because to them

1185
01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:33.440
<v Speaker 1>in that day and age, this would have been considered

1186
01:03:33.519 --> 01:03:33.960
<v Speaker 1>sci fi.

1187
01:03:34.840 --> 01:03:37.840
<v Speaker 3>Well, I just looked it up the book that she

1188
01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:41.159
<v Speaker 3>was referencing. As far as Madame Wilvad's Doctrine. Yeah, the

1189
01:03:41.199 --> 01:03:42.599
<v Speaker 3>Secret Doctrine. I just looked it up.

1190
01:03:42.639 --> 01:03:43.880
<v Speaker 2>It's like her most famous work.

1191
01:03:44.320 --> 01:03:44.519
<v Speaker 9>Right.

1192
01:03:44.679 --> 01:03:46.719
<v Speaker 3>Uh, you can get it on Amazon, dude, for I

1193
01:03:46.719 --> 01:03:49.519
<v Speaker 3>mean the paperback version for five dollars and ninety five cents.

1194
01:03:49.559 --> 01:03:51.360
<v Speaker 3>But I was looking it up. It's only one hundred and

1195
01:03:51.360 --> 01:03:53.960
<v Speaker 3>thirty four pages, but it's interesting. The book review it says,

1196
01:03:54.239 --> 01:03:57.920
<v Speaker 3>the origin and evolution of the universe explained in terms

1197
01:03:58.039 --> 01:04:02.119
<v Speaker 3>derived from the Hindu concept of cyclical development. The world

1198
01:04:02.159 --> 01:04:05.639
<v Speaker 3>and everything in it is supposed to alternate between periods

1199
01:04:05.679 --> 01:04:10.119
<v Speaker 3>of activity and periods of passivity. The periods of activity

1200
01:04:10.239 --> 01:04:13.960
<v Speaker 3>lasts many millions of years and consists of a number

1201
01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:18.079
<v Speaker 3>of Yugas in accordance with Hindu cosmology. That's I mean,

1202
01:04:18.159 --> 01:04:20.960
<v Speaker 3>some people will like to because we all right, this

1203
01:04:21.119 --> 01:04:23.239
<v Speaker 3>and this, I guess you can make the case for

1204
01:04:23.480 --> 01:04:28.199
<v Speaker 3>like global warming, about how there is certain cycles and

1205
01:04:28.519 --> 01:04:30.360
<v Speaker 3>that's where you get into the Yugas and the Cali

1206
01:04:30.440 --> 01:04:33.239
<v Speaker 3>Yugas and shit like that. I hear a lot about

1207
01:04:33.480 --> 01:04:35.679
<v Speaker 3>that kind of stuff on Crow Triple seven podcasts. He

1208
01:04:35.719 --> 01:04:38.719
<v Speaker 3>talks about the Yugas and the changing of the age.

1209
01:04:38.760 --> 01:04:40.400
<v Speaker 3>Some people want to say that we're moving into the

1210
01:04:40.920 --> 01:04:44.000
<v Speaker 3>age of Aquarius. It's kind of in that realm of

1211
01:04:44.039 --> 01:04:48.480
<v Speaker 3>like the Hindu Vedic, you know, version of our astrology

1212
01:04:48.519 --> 01:04:51.159
<v Speaker 3>as far as yugas and timeframes.

1213
01:04:51.199 --> 01:04:54.280
<v Speaker 1>So the same way that our Scottish writer Homie went

1214
01:04:54.320 --> 01:04:57.119
<v Speaker 1>to India, found some quote unquote information and wrote a

1215
01:04:57.119 --> 01:04:59.760
<v Speaker 1>book about it that people thought to be real. Blavotski

1216
01:04:59.760 --> 01:05:02.320
<v Speaker 1>did the same thing, and she was confirmed a member

1217
01:05:02.320 --> 01:05:04.840
<v Speaker 1>of OTO, and she was a contemporary of Alistair Crowley,

1218
01:05:04.840 --> 01:05:05.800
<v Speaker 1>and she was doing.

1219
01:05:05.559 --> 01:05:06.679
<v Speaker 2>These types of rituals.

1220
01:05:06.960 --> 01:05:10.079
<v Speaker 1>Although she was kind of a reason why OTO went

1221
01:05:10.119 --> 01:05:12.880
<v Speaker 1>into the direction that it went, because she was pushing

1222
01:05:12.920 --> 01:05:16.079
<v Speaker 1>a lot more Eastern Inveadic philosophies while a lot of

1223
01:05:16.079 --> 01:05:18.840
<v Speaker 1>the other other members of that group were looking into

1224
01:05:18.920 --> 01:05:25.199
<v Speaker 1>Christian esotericism and Western you know, cosmology if you will,

1225
01:05:25.280 --> 01:05:27.159
<v Speaker 1>So they kind of had a splitting of the mind,

1226
01:05:27.239 --> 01:05:30.119
<v Speaker 1>so to speak. She was very, very influential in Eastern

1227
01:05:30.280 --> 01:05:33.119
<v Speaker 1>esotericism making its way into the mainframe in Europe.

1228
01:05:33.559 --> 01:05:36.920
<v Speaker 3>But right, and this astrology is so different really across

1229
01:05:36.960 --> 01:05:38.800
<v Speaker 3>the world too, Like when.

1230
01:05:38.800 --> 01:05:41.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about astrology, I'm talking about like cosmology

1231
01:05:41.639 --> 01:05:44.440
<v Speaker 1>and witchcraft and magic and that type of stuff. Okay, yeah,

1232
01:05:44.480 --> 01:05:46.519
<v Speaker 1>the stars come and play into that in some way,

1233
01:05:46.559 --> 01:05:48.360
<v Speaker 1>shape or form, but that's whatever.

1234
01:05:48.599 --> 01:05:51.599
<v Speaker 2>Right, But that's of this same day and age.

1235
01:05:51.639 --> 01:05:54.559
<v Speaker 1>And where was she getting these theories from scientists seventy

1236
01:05:54.599 --> 01:05:56.920
<v Speaker 1>years prior when they were writing essays to each other

1237
01:05:57.039 --> 01:06:00.000
<v Speaker 1>theorizing about certain things. So it's all in the same

1238
01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:03.280
<v Speaker 1>timeframe where people were looking at things from a different perspective.

1239
01:06:03.559 --> 01:06:06.000
<v Speaker 1>They were looking at new possibilities, you know what I mean.

1240
01:06:06.159 --> 01:06:10.199
<v Speaker 1>Eugenics was being discussed, evolution was being discussed, lost continents,

1241
01:06:10.280 --> 01:06:13.400
<v Speaker 1>lost civilizations, all these things are being discussed. New books

1242
01:06:13.440 --> 01:06:15.960
<v Speaker 1>and new literature were being written about it every year,

1243
01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:18.119
<v Speaker 1>it seemed, and it was just getting more and more crazy.

1244
01:06:18.159 --> 01:06:22.440
<v Speaker 1>But again, in twenty thirteen they did that study and

1245
01:06:22.480 --> 01:06:26.159
<v Speaker 1>they found remnants of a land connection. So again it's

1246
01:06:26.199 --> 01:06:29.719
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily that's that kernel of truth. No, I don't

1247
01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:34.239
<v Speaker 1>believe that Madagascar aka Lemeria or whatever was ever the

1248
01:06:34.440 --> 01:06:39.760
<v Speaker 1>home of a fifteen foot four armed lemur primate hermaphroditic race.

1249
01:06:39.920 --> 01:06:42.679
<v Speaker 1>I don't personally believe that Madam Blovotsky did, and that's

1250
01:06:43.039 --> 01:06:46.800
<v Speaker 1>on her. I'm not throwing shade. But when you look

1251
01:06:46.840 --> 01:06:49.039
<v Speaker 1>at the connection of the lambridge that they talk about,

1252
01:06:49.599 --> 01:06:51.960
<v Speaker 1>it later on got more confirmed.

1253
01:06:53.159 --> 01:06:56.280
<v Speaker 3>I just bought that book, by the way, you want

1254
01:06:56.280 --> 01:06:58.199
<v Speaker 3>to know, I said, just bought that book.

1255
01:06:59.039 --> 01:07:01.079
<v Speaker 2>Of course, dude, I would expect nothing less.

1256
01:07:01.079 --> 01:07:03.159
<v Speaker 1>You must bring it up on the on meta for

1257
01:07:03.159 --> 01:07:06.119
<v Speaker 1>anybody who hasn't gone and checked out meta, you should.

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<v Speaker 3>You should, Yeah, dude, especially like these kind of books

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01:07:09.599 --> 01:07:12.320
<v Speaker 3>that are like, you know, a cult like and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I've never personally read anything from Madam Blovotsky. But it's

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01:07:16.639 --> 01:07:18.559
<v Speaker 3>only one hundred and twenty seven pages. I can easily

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01:07:18.559 --> 01:07:20.719
<v Speaker 3>bang that out in three episodes on Meta Mysteries.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, Absolutely, dude, I can't wait to hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, all right, let's go into more confirmation about

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01:07:27.880 --> 01:07:31.239
<v Speaker 1>this lost land that may or may not be real.

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<v Speaker 10>In twenty seventeen, researchers discovered some interesting evidence near the

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01:07:38.119 --> 01:07:42.280
<v Speaker 10>nation of Mauritius. Any scientific theories of a lost continent

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01:07:42.360 --> 01:07:47.039
<v Speaker 10>and land bridge responsible for the migration of lemurs is gone. However,

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01:07:47.480 --> 01:07:50.760
<v Speaker 10>scientists found fragments of granite in the ocean south of

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01:07:50.800 --> 01:07:54.039
<v Speaker 10>India along a shelf that extends hundreds of miles south

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01:07:54.119 --> 01:07:59.039
<v Speaker 10>of the country towards Mauritius. On Mauritius, geologists found zircon

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01:07:59.280 --> 01:08:01.719
<v Speaker 10>despite the fact that the island only came into being

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01:08:01.760 --> 01:08:05.719
<v Speaker 10>two million years ago and thanks to plate tectonics and volcanoes,

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01:08:06.119 --> 01:08:08.840
<v Speaker 10>slowly rose out of the Indian Ocean as a small

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01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:13.039
<v Speaker 10>land mass. However, the zircon they found they're data to

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01:08:13.119 --> 01:08:17.000
<v Speaker 10>three billion years ago, eons before the island had even formed.

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<v Speaker 10>Scientists dearized what this meant was that the zircon had

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01:08:21.439 --> 01:08:24.159
<v Speaker 10>come from a much older land mass that long ago

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01:08:24.279 --> 01:08:27.399
<v Speaker 10>sunk into the Indian Ocean. It's gleaty.

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<v Speaker 1>So just so we're on the same page here, they

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<v Speaker 1>found a granite shelf with zirconia that all matched the

1282
01:08:34.520 --> 01:08:37.520
<v Speaker 1>same strand if you will, zirconia by that's a cubic

1283
01:08:37.600 --> 01:08:40.319
<v Speaker 1>zirconia that you can use as like quote unquote fake diamonds.

1284
01:08:40.560 --> 01:08:43.239
<v Speaker 1>Zircon is like the raw form of that. So they

1285
01:08:43.319 --> 01:08:47.800
<v Speaker 1>found this thread under the ground that now confirms that

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01:08:47.920 --> 01:08:51.239
<v Speaker 1>this at one time ancient, long ago. They're throwing billions.

1287
01:08:51.279 --> 01:08:53.920
<v Speaker 1>They're throwing millions too. The fuck knows, doesn't matter. You're

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01:08:53.960 --> 01:08:56.159
<v Speaker 1>telling me that there was an actual connection and that

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01:08:56.199 --> 01:08:58.079
<v Speaker 1>you just confirmed and are now side stepping.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty interesting. I have a question, It might be a

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01:09:02.119 --> 01:09:06.399
<v Speaker 3>stupid question, but to your knowledge, I mean, this is

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01:09:06.439 --> 01:09:10.520
<v Speaker 3>probably something that's well known. Are all land masses where

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01:09:10.520 --> 01:09:15.640
<v Speaker 3>they all formed because of volcanoes? Like every land mass

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01:09:15.680 --> 01:09:17.600
<v Speaker 3>on the Earth, is it all because of a volcano?

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<v Speaker 1>No, Pangaea would be the origin that a lot of

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01:09:21.960 --> 01:09:22.560
<v Speaker 1>people will.

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01:09:22.439 --> 01:09:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Go off of.

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01:09:23.159 --> 01:09:26.399
<v Speaker 3>And then there was was Pangaea formed because of a volcano.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, from what they can tell, Pangaea formed basically

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<v Speaker 1>from the forming.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the Earth.

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01:09:33.119 --> 01:09:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Interesting, like when and this is just my understanding, and

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01:09:36.840 --> 01:09:40.479
<v Speaker 1>I understand that this is the understanding as the textbooks

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01:09:40.479 --> 01:09:42.199
<v Speaker 1>in public school education.

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01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:44.359
<v Speaker 2>Have allowed, right, and a little bit of my own research.

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01:09:44.399 --> 01:09:48.359
<v Speaker 1>But basically, when cut from the Big Bang and cut

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01:09:48.399 --> 01:09:50.920
<v Speaker 1>to all of this clump of everything just kind of

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01:09:50.920 --> 01:09:53.079
<v Speaker 1>forming into a big ball of something and then slowly

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01:09:53.119 --> 01:09:57.680
<v Speaker 1>over time forming into a spherical esque type thing, skip

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01:09:57.720 --> 01:10:00.319
<v Speaker 1>the forming of the atmosphere, and now we have land

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01:10:00.359 --> 01:10:02.600
<v Speaker 1>and water on this ball.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Google's AI says, No, Pangaea was. It was not

1313
01:10:07.560 --> 01:10:11.079
<v Speaker 3>formed by volcanoes. It was formed by plate tectonics, but

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01:10:11.279 --> 01:10:15.439
<v Speaker 3>volcanic activity may have contributed to the breakup of Pangaea.

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<v Speaker 1>So, like I was saying, all of this is pretty

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01:10:18.159 --> 01:10:21.840
<v Speaker 1>much gone into a ball. We have our high ridge point,

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01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:23.800
<v Speaker 1>and then we have everything else that's low, which is

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01:10:23.840 --> 01:10:25.279
<v Speaker 1>where the water collected and formed.

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01:10:25.359 --> 01:10:26.560
<v Speaker 2>Right. Cool, we had the oceans.

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01:10:26.560 --> 01:10:30.119
<v Speaker 1>We had the massive just chunk of shit that's above

1321
01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:33.760
<v Speaker 1>water on this ball that was formed when all the

1322
01:10:33.760 --> 01:10:37.479
<v Speaker 1>plates collided together to form this massive land mass. Allegedly

1323
01:10:37.880 --> 01:10:43.560
<v Speaker 1>allegedly now what caused them to split. Could be all

1324
01:10:43.640 --> 01:10:46.640
<v Speaker 1>the volcanoes blowing at the same time, could have been

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01:10:46.640 --> 01:10:48.720
<v Speaker 1>a meteor, could have been a combination of both. Could

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01:10:49.039 --> 01:10:51.439
<v Speaker 1>There's a million things as to why the plates started

1327
01:10:51.439 --> 01:10:53.920
<v Speaker 1>to split apart. But then they slowly but surely over

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01:10:53.960 --> 01:10:55.840
<v Speaker 1>time have split into what we have now is our

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01:10:55.920 --> 01:10:59.359
<v Speaker 1>land masses. That's the going theory, and we can track

1330
01:10:59.399 --> 01:11:02.319
<v Speaker 1>them moving because we can see how close I think it's.

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01:11:03.479 --> 01:11:04.800
<v Speaker 1>The last time I checked, it was like, is it

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01:11:04.880 --> 01:11:05.680
<v Speaker 1>six inches a year?

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01:11:07.560 --> 01:11:07.680
<v Speaker 9>Uh?

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01:11:08.359 --> 01:11:10.039
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, probably not even that.

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01:11:11.640 --> 01:11:13.319
<v Speaker 2>It's been a hot minute. I'm gonna be honest with you,

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01:11:13.359 --> 01:11:14.199
<v Speaker 2>but I'm the.

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01:11:14.119 --> 01:11:17.479
<v Speaker 3>Course of time of billions of years, possibly allegedly. I

1338
01:11:17.520 --> 01:11:19.439
<v Speaker 3>don't know how long this earth has been around, whether

1339
01:11:19.479 --> 01:11:23.600
<v Speaker 3>it be billions or millions. Maybe it's thousands, but I mean,

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01:11:23.600 --> 01:11:25.159
<v Speaker 3>there's no way of really knowing, I think.

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01:11:25.960 --> 01:11:29.359
<v Speaker 1>But the point of the whole Limeria conversation they know

1342
01:11:29.600 --> 01:11:31.960
<v Speaker 1>for sure that there is at least hard rock that

1343
01:11:32.079 --> 01:11:35.279
<v Speaker 1>at one time, especially if you think about the Ice Age,

1344
01:11:35.319 --> 01:11:38.600
<v Speaker 1>how sea levels were different because the ice was so frozen,

1345
01:11:38.760 --> 01:11:40.560
<v Speaker 1>like you know what I mean, that expands that water

1346
01:11:40.600 --> 01:11:42.279
<v Speaker 1>that would have been in the ocean is now frozen

1347
01:11:42.359 --> 01:11:45.039
<v Speaker 1>up top, so it's a whole thing. It's very possible

1348
01:11:45.079 --> 01:11:49.079
<v Speaker 1>that with lower levels and that hard rock surface being there,

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01:11:49.119 --> 01:11:51.119
<v Speaker 1>that that might have actually been more of a valley

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01:11:51.399 --> 01:11:53.520
<v Speaker 1>than an ocean, and that is.

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01:11:53.640 --> 01:11:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Now being more and more confirmed. So let's hear a

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01:11:56.800 --> 01:11:57.560
<v Speaker 2>little bit more.

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<v Speaker 10>In our a story about Limuria was true. Almost Rather

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01:12:02.720 --> 01:12:07.239
<v Speaker 10>than called this discovery Limuria, geologists named the proposed lost

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01:12:07.319 --> 01:12:13.079
<v Speaker 10>continent Moraitia based on plate tectonics and geological data. Moraitia

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01:12:13.159 --> 01:12:16.960
<v Speaker 10>disappeared into the Indian Ocean about eighty four million years ago,

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01:12:17.159 --> 01:12:19.800
<v Speaker 10>when this region of Earth was still turning into the

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01:12:19.800 --> 01:12:21.000
<v Speaker 10>shape it holds today.

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01:12:21.560 --> 01:12:23.720
<v Speaker 2>It's been eighty four years.

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<v Speaker 10>And while this generally lines up with what sklater had

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01:12:27.319 --> 01:12:30.319
<v Speaker 10>once claimed, the new evidence puts the notion of an

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01:12:30.319 --> 01:12:33.880
<v Speaker 10>ancient race of Limourians that evolved into lemurs to rest.

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01:12:34.960 --> 01:12:38.880
<v Speaker 10>Moraitia disappeared eighty four million years ago, but lemurs didn't

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01:12:38.920 --> 01:12:42.880
<v Speaker 10>evolve on Madagascar until about fifty four million years ago,

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01:12:42.920 --> 01:12:46.039
<v Speaker 10>when they swam to the island from mainland Africa, which

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01:12:46.119 --> 01:12:50.199
<v Speaker 10>was closer to Madagascar than it is now. Nevertheless, Sclater

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01:12:50.479 --> 01:12:52.640
<v Speaker 10>and some of the other scientists of the mid eighteen

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01:12:52.720 --> 01:12:56.880
<v Speaker 10>hundreds were partially right about Limuria despite their limited knowledge.

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01:12:57.199 --> 01:13:00.520
<v Speaker 10>A loss continent didn't suddenly sink into the Indians and

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01:13:00.640 --> 01:13:04.439
<v Speaker 10>vanish without a trace. But long ago there was something there,

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01:13:04.800 --> 01:13:09.640
<v Speaker 10>something that has now gone forever. Unfortunately, Limro's had little

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01:13:09.680 --> 01:13:10.920
<v Speaker 10>to do with anything of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So Limoria being proposed first by this guy named

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01:13:18.039 --> 01:13:20.439
<v Speaker 1>Philip schlater, okay, and I did want to read a

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01:13:20.439 --> 01:13:24.520
<v Speaker 1>little bit about him, because again, he wasn't just some theorists,

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01:13:24.640 --> 01:13:25.960
<v Speaker 1>He was a real professional.

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01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:27.720
<v Speaker 2>He was a zoologist.

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01:13:28.119 --> 01:13:33.640
<v Speaker 3>Philip Luteley Sclater was an English lawyer and zoologist in zoology,

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01:13:33.800 --> 01:13:40.039
<v Speaker 3>he was an expert ornithopol ornithologist, ornithologists.

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01:13:40.039 --> 01:13:41.680
<v Speaker 2>That's the dudes that do monkeys.

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01:13:42.279 --> 01:13:43.199
<v Speaker 3>They do monkeys.

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01:13:43.439 --> 01:13:44.840
<v Speaker 2>Damn well, you know what I'm saying.

1383
01:13:44.880 --> 01:13:48.560
<v Speaker 1>They're the monkey experts, or the primates, or the you know,

1384
01:13:48.640 --> 01:13:49.399
<v Speaker 1>all of those things.

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01:13:49.560 --> 01:13:51.920
<v Speaker 3>I imagine that there have been people who have done monkeys.

1386
01:13:51.920 --> 01:13:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Though some people say that's where AIDS came from. We

1387
01:13:54.920 --> 01:13:57.960
<v Speaker 1>know that that's an incorrect statement. We know was created.

1388
01:13:58.000 --> 01:13:59.760
<v Speaker 1>There's a patent number, there's a whole thing to it.

1389
01:14:00.159 --> 01:14:03.199
<v Speaker 1>Like people have been staying wild shit for a long time,

1390
01:14:03.239 --> 01:14:05.920
<v Speaker 1>and unfortunately beast. Reality's been a thing as long as

1391
01:14:06.000 --> 01:14:07.880
<v Speaker 1>people have been disgusting, so you know.

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01:14:08.199 --> 01:14:12.199
<v Speaker 3>And he was identified, or he identified the main zoo

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01:14:12.279 --> 01:14:15.279
<v Speaker 3>geographic regions of the world. He was the secretary of

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01:14:15.399 --> 01:14:18.800
<v Speaker 3>the Zoological Society of London for forty two years from

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01:14:18.800 --> 01:14:20.439
<v Speaker 3>eighteen sixty to nineteen oh two.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so, like like I said, you boy wasn't no

1397
01:14:23.760 --> 01:14:26.600
<v Speaker 1>half stepper. But let's read a little bit about his

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01:14:26.760 --> 01:14:29.800
<v Speaker 1>career on once he got out there in the real world.

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<v Speaker 3>In eighteen fifty eight, sklater published a paper in the

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01:14:33.000 --> 01:14:37.920
<v Speaker 3>Proceedings of the Linnaean Society setting up six zoological regions,

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01:14:37.920 --> 01:14:51.720
<v Speaker 3>which he called the Palearctic, the Athiopian, Indian, Australia, Australasian, Austrasian, Nearctic,

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01:14:51.880 --> 01:14:57.439
<v Speaker 3>and Neotropical. These zoological or zeographic regions are still in

1403
01:14:57.840 --> 01:15:01.319
<v Speaker 3>use zoo geograp these words.

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01:15:01.199 --> 01:15:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because yeah, to keep in mind, he wasn't looking

1405
01:15:03.680 --> 01:15:06.720
<v Speaker 1>at the lamb masses. He's looking at the animals specifically

1406
01:15:06.760 --> 01:15:09.399
<v Speaker 1>that live in these regions, and so he wasn't looking

1407
01:15:09.479 --> 01:15:14.039
<v Speaker 1>at necessarily continental divides, because there are certain continents where

1408
01:15:14.239 --> 01:15:18.000
<v Speaker 1>the same species transists across both, you know what I'm saying.

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01:15:18.039 --> 01:15:20.960
<v Speaker 1>So that's why he broke it up into the paleo Arctic,

1410
01:15:21.119 --> 01:15:23.960
<v Speaker 1>which is just that whole region. We got the athy open,

1411
01:15:24.079 --> 01:15:29.199
<v Speaker 1>which I think is just the Upper European. Indian because

1412
01:15:29.199 --> 01:15:32.279
<v Speaker 1>the subcontinent of India is a thing in and of itself,

1413
01:15:32.720 --> 01:15:36.720
<v Speaker 1>the Australian because Australia and Asian kind of do connect in.

1414
01:15:36.720 --> 01:15:39.119
<v Speaker 2>Certain zoographical regions. I get this.

1415
01:15:40.039 --> 01:15:43.479
<v Speaker 3>He also developed the theory of Lemuria during eighteen sixty

1416
01:15:43.520 --> 01:15:49.119
<v Speaker 3>four to explain zoological coincidences relating Madagascar to India. In

1417
01:15:49.159 --> 01:15:52.079
<v Speaker 3>eighteen seventy four he became private secretary to his brother

1418
01:15:52.279 --> 01:15:56.079
<v Speaker 3>George sklater booth MP Military Police.

1419
01:15:57.199 --> 01:16:02.520
<v Speaker 2>Now I believe that the magistrate, basically it's like a

1420
01:16:04.279 --> 01:16:07.920
<v Speaker 2>damn it. We talked about this before. Magistrate principle.

1421
01:16:08.520 --> 01:16:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Basically he's like a judge or like a he's got

1422
01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:12.680
<v Speaker 1>legal authority over a situation.

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01:16:13.159 --> 01:16:17.079
<v Speaker 3>Later he was Lord Basing. He was offered a permanent

1424
01:16:17.159 --> 01:16:20.399
<v Speaker 3>position in civil service, but he declined. In eighteen seventy five,

1425
01:16:20.439 --> 01:16:23.159
<v Speaker 3>he became president of the Biological section of the British

1426
01:16:23.199 --> 01:16:27.079
<v Speaker 3>Association for Advancement of Science, which he joined in eighteen

1427
01:16:27.159 --> 01:16:29.439
<v Speaker 3>forty seven as a member. He was elected as a

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01:16:29.439 --> 01:16:33.079
<v Speaker 3>member of the American Philosophical Society in eighteen seventy three.

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01:16:33.439 --> 01:16:37.119
<v Speaker 3>Sklater was the founder and first editor of the IBBYSS.

1430
01:16:37.760 --> 01:16:43.000
<v Speaker 3>It was the journal of the British Ornithologist Union that

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01:16:43.159 --> 01:16:46.840
<v Speaker 3>word okay. He was the secretary of the Zoological Society

1432
01:16:46.840 --> 01:16:49.319
<v Speaker 3>of London from eighteen sixty to nineteen oh two, and

1433
01:16:49.359 --> 01:16:52.880
<v Speaker 3>he was briefly succeeded by his son before the Council

1434
01:16:52.920 --> 01:16:56.159
<v Speaker 3>of the Society made a long term appointment in nineteen

1435
01:16:56.159 --> 01:17:00.000
<v Speaker 3>oh one. He described the Okapi to Western scientists, although

1436
01:17:00.039 --> 01:17:03.159
<v Speaker 3>so he never saw one alive. His office at eleven

1437
01:17:03.239 --> 01:17:07.119
<v Speaker 3>Hanover Square became a meeting place for all naturalists in London.

1438
01:17:08.239 --> 01:17:11.520
<v Speaker 3>Travelers and residents shared notes with him, and he corresponded

1439
01:17:11.560 --> 01:17:15.159
<v Speaker 3>with thousands. His collection of the birds grew to nine thousand,

1440
01:17:15.239 --> 01:17:18.279
<v Speaker 3>and these transferred to the British Museum in eighteen eighty six.

1441
01:17:18.720 --> 01:17:21.359
<v Speaker 3>At around the same time, the museum was augmented by

1442
01:17:21.399 --> 01:17:26.640
<v Speaker 3>the collections of Gold, Salvin and Godman, Hume and others

1443
01:17:26.680 --> 01:17:29.720
<v Speaker 3>to become the largest in the world. Among Slater's more

1444
01:17:29.720 --> 01:17:36.760
<v Speaker 3>important books were Exotic Ornithology and Nomenclator AVM, both with

1445
01:17:37.079 --> 01:17:39.359
<v Speaker 3>Osbert Salvin. Okay, so it's just getting into all the

1446
01:17:39.359 --> 01:17:40.000
<v Speaker 3>works now.

1447
01:17:40.880 --> 01:17:45.119
<v Speaker 1>So essentially, this guy was a real zoologist. The things

1448
01:17:45.159 --> 01:17:48.920
<v Speaker 1>that he talked about are still referenced today, the works

1449
01:17:48.960 --> 01:17:51.520
<v Speaker 1>that he did, the categorization, all of this. Like, he

1450
01:17:51.960 --> 01:17:55.319
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a weird guy. He was a real professional and

1451
01:17:55.399 --> 01:18:00.479
<v Speaker 1>he proposed limeria as an idea, a theory to bring

1452
01:18:00.520 --> 01:18:03.359
<v Speaker 1>about certain connections to the lands. And this is how

1453
01:18:03.399 --> 01:18:05.359
<v Speaker 1>he did it, right, I'm just showing that he wasn't.

1454
01:18:05.640 --> 01:18:07.159
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like he just got drunk one night and

1455
01:18:07.239 --> 01:18:09.359
<v Speaker 1>started talking shit, wrote some things down and came up

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01:18:09.399 --> 01:18:09.640
<v Speaker 1>with it.

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01:18:09.960 --> 01:18:10.720
<v Speaker 2>You see what I'm saying.

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01:18:10.720 --> 01:18:14.119
<v Speaker 3>Well, it also said that he received an honorary science

1459
01:18:14.279 --> 01:18:16.960
<v Speaker 3>doctorate from the University of Oxford too, So he wasn't no,

1460
01:18:17.159 --> 01:18:18.039
<v Speaker 3>he wasn't no scrub.

1461
01:18:18.760 --> 01:18:22.359
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And so when he spoke and said that there's

1462
01:18:22.399 --> 01:18:25.439
<v Speaker 1>a possibility of lemeria, people listened.

1463
01:18:25.800 --> 01:18:26.680
<v Speaker 2>You see what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>I get that.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, let's talk about this dude, Ernest heikel Hackel. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically there was a little bit of some racial controversy

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01:18:35.119 --> 01:18:35.520
<v Speaker 1>over some.

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01:18:35.520 --> 01:18:38.880
<v Speaker 2>Of the things he said. Let's let's talk a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit here.

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<v Speaker 3>The German Darwin Ernest Hackel live from eighteen thirty four

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<v Speaker 3>to nineteen nineteen was a key figure during the First

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01:18:46.119 --> 01:18:49.520
<v Speaker 3>Darwinian Revolution, a time when the foundations of the modern

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01:18:49.520 --> 01:18:53.920
<v Speaker 3>evolutionary theory were laid. It was Haeckel who crucially contributed

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01:18:53.960 --> 01:18:58.439
<v Speaker 3>to the visualization of the Darwinian theory by designing genealogical

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01:18:58.520 --> 01:19:03.279
<v Speaker 3>trees illustrating the evolution of various species, including humans. Although

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01:19:03.279 --> 01:19:06.720
<v Speaker 3>the idea of explaining human evolution by natural selection belongs

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01:19:06.760 --> 01:19:10.119
<v Speaker 3>to Darwin, Hackel was the first who attempted to create

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01:19:10.159 --> 01:19:13.800
<v Speaker 3>a new exact anthropology based on the Darwinian method.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I mean again, it's not the best in the world,

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01:19:20.000 --> 01:19:21.760
<v Speaker 1>but he was trying to shoot his shot.

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01:19:22.960 --> 01:19:26.680
<v Speaker 3>Trying to immediately reconstruct human evolution. Proceeding from the description

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01:19:26.800 --> 01:19:30.000
<v Speaker 3>of modern populations led Hackel to the views, which from

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01:19:30.159 --> 01:19:35.960
<v Speaker 3>the contemporary perspective, are definitely racist. Hackel created racial anthropology,

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01:19:36.800 --> 01:19:40.560
<v Speaker 3>intending to prove human origins from a lower organism, but

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01:19:40.680 --> 01:19:45.199
<v Speaker 3>without the intention of establishing a discriminatory racial praxis. Although

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01:19:45.319 --> 01:19:51.880
<v Speaker 3>hierarchical hierarchical in its outcome, the Hekilian method did not

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01:19:52.119 --> 01:19:56.159
<v Speaker 3>presuppose the necessity of racial hierarchy of current living humans.

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01:19:56.399 --> 01:19:59.520
<v Speaker 3>It is crucial to grasp in what sense Hackel's theoretical

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01:19:59.560 --> 01:20:03.640
<v Speaker 3>explorer and human evolution were racist, and in what sense

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01:20:03.800 --> 01:20:07.199
<v Speaker 3>they were not. Our argument flows as follows. One of

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01:20:07.239 --> 01:20:13.399
<v Speaker 3>Hackel's pupils was the Russian ethnographer, anthropologist, and zoologist Nikolai

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01:20:14.600 --> 01:20:18.319
<v Speaker 3>nicol Jewitch Lucho Maclay.

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<v Speaker 1>Home boys got four fucking Russian ass names. There's no way,

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01:20:23.239 --> 01:20:26.720
<v Speaker 1>There's no way. Let's just say McLay. McLay and Hackel were.

1496
01:20:27.239 --> 01:20:30.600
<v Speaker 1>They worked closely together for several years. They traveled jointly,

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01:20:30.680 --> 01:20:34.840
<v Speaker 1>and McLay had enough time to learn the major methodological

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01:20:34.960 --> 01:20:38.920
<v Speaker 1>principles of Hackel's research. Yet, in contrast to Hackel, McLay

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01:20:39.119 --> 01:20:42.720
<v Speaker 1>is regarded as one of the first scientific anti racists

1500
01:20:42.920 --> 01:20:47.199
<v Speaker 1>who came to anti racist views using empirical field studies

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01:20:47.239 --> 01:20:50.600
<v Speaker 1>in Papua New Guinea. Right, So we don't have to

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01:20:50.600 --> 01:20:53.199
<v Speaker 1>go more into it because it just kind of breaks

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01:20:53.199 --> 01:20:55.880
<v Speaker 1>down into the I mean, we really could. We could

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01:20:55.880 --> 01:20:58.439
<v Speaker 1>break down how this guy was such a racist asshole

1505
01:20:58.520 --> 01:21:02.680
<v Speaker 1>and all of these things. But here's right here, Well,

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01:21:02.720 --> 01:21:06.479
<v Speaker 1>let's just go into Hackel's racial anthropology.

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01:21:06.880 --> 01:21:09.600
<v Speaker 3>When Darwin introduced his theory of evolution. One of the

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01:21:09.640 --> 01:21:13.079
<v Speaker 3>sharpest controversies arose around the origin of man. Hackel was

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01:21:13.119 --> 01:21:17.960
<v Speaker 3>convinced early on that Darwinian principles are applicable to human evolution.

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01:21:18.399 --> 01:21:22.439
<v Speaker 3>Having only two fossil remnants at his disposal, Hackle tried

1511
01:21:22.479 --> 01:21:27.960
<v Speaker 3>to reconstruct human phylogeny, So how you say that, yeah,

1512
01:21:28.239 --> 01:21:32.399
<v Speaker 3>as ologenious, as well as global migration of ancient humans.

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01:21:32.680 --> 01:21:38.720
<v Speaker 3>Darwin reacted favorable to Hackel's anthropological publications. In the introduction

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01:21:38.960 --> 01:21:42.000
<v Speaker 3>of the Descent of Man book, he wrote, referring to

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01:21:42.039 --> 01:21:46.680
<v Speaker 3>Hackle's The History of Creation something written in fucking German,

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01:21:46.720 --> 01:21:51.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm supposing almost all the conclusions at which I arrived

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01:21:51.119 --> 01:21:54.359
<v Speaker 3>I find confirmed by this naturalist, whose knowledge on many

1518
01:21:54.439 --> 01:21:57.319
<v Speaker 3>points is much fuller than mine. In quotes praising his

1519
01:21:57.399 --> 01:22:01.199
<v Speaker 3>contemporaries and predecessors who shared his view that man descended

1520
01:22:01.199 --> 01:22:06.560
<v Speaker 3>from a hypothetical extinct lower form, Darwin enumerated and quotes

1521
01:22:06.800 --> 01:22:11.560
<v Speaker 3>several eminent naturalists and philosophers, but emphasized a superior role

1522
01:22:12.279 --> 01:22:16.439
<v Speaker 3>of Hackel by saying that his conclusion was maintained especially

1523
01:22:16.479 --> 01:22:19.680
<v Speaker 3>by Hackel. Darwin even admitted that if Hackel's work had

1524
01:22:19.680 --> 01:22:24.359
<v Speaker 3>appeared before his The Descent of Man book had been written.

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01:22:24.680 --> 01:22:29.359
<v Speaker 3>He should probably he should probably never have completed it.

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01:22:30.840 --> 01:22:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Right, the same Darwin that said we come from monkeys,

1527
01:22:34.079 --> 01:22:35.560
<v Speaker 1>same dude.

1528
01:22:36.079 --> 01:22:38.720
<v Speaker 3>Which, by the way, he rebuted the idea that we

1529
01:22:38.760 --> 01:22:41.960
<v Speaker 3>came from monkeys on his deathbed, supposedly right.

1530
01:22:42.239 --> 01:22:44.159
<v Speaker 1>But this is back when he was full tilt. This

1531
01:22:44.239 --> 01:22:46.920
<v Speaker 1>is back when he was like the guy everybody was

1532
01:22:46.920 --> 01:22:48.439
<v Speaker 1>talking about, Charles Darwin.

1533
01:22:48.399 --> 01:22:51.319
<v Speaker 3>Oh dude, and even so much that like, what was

1534
01:22:51.359 --> 01:22:58.680
<v Speaker 3>it the monkey on the wild thornberrys was named Darwin? Yes, yes, yeah.

1535
01:22:58.840 --> 01:23:03.199
<v Speaker 3>Hackel was occupied with oh, hold on. He was occupied

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01:23:03.199 --> 01:23:07.960
<v Speaker 3>with human phylogenny for forty five years, beginning with the

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01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:13.039
<v Speaker 3>Stettiner vortrog Or speech in the city of Stettin in

1538
01:23:13.079 --> 01:23:18.000
<v Speaker 3>eighteen sixty three, ending with the r Ancestors book in

1539
01:23:18.119 --> 01:23:21.479
<v Speaker 3>nineteen oh eight. In contrast to Darwin, who merely postulated

1540
01:23:21.479 --> 01:23:25.039
<v Speaker 3>the descent of man from an ape like Ancestor, Hackel

1541
01:23:25.119 --> 01:23:28.680
<v Speaker 3>tried to reconstruct and visualize the exact pathways of human origin.

1542
01:23:28.960 --> 01:23:31.880
<v Speaker 3>For him, it was a task of a very special mission,

1543
01:23:33.239 --> 01:23:36.479
<v Speaker 3>or of all the individual questions answered by the theory

1544
01:23:36.520 --> 01:23:39.680
<v Speaker 3>of descent, of all the special inferences drawn from it.

1545
01:23:39.840 --> 01:23:42.800
<v Speaker 3>There is none of such importance as the application of

1546
01:23:42.840 --> 01:23:47.640
<v Speaker 3>this doctrine of man himself. But these efforts made him

1547
01:23:47.680 --> 01:23:52.079
<v Speaker 3>into a highly controversial figure. Pushing forward a hypothesis that

1548
01:23:52.159 --> 01:23:56.479
<v Speaker 3>is widely accepted today that several human species coexisted on Earth.

1549
01:23:56.680 --> 01:24:00.479
<v Speaker 3>Hackel suggested that the alternative species may still exist opposed

1550
01:24:00.520 --> 01:24:05.560
<v Speaker 3>his famous and quotes phylogenetic trees to capture his idea.

1551
01:24:05.760 --> 01:24:07.479
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you can already see where this is kind

1552
01:24:07.479 --> 01:24:08.199
<v Speaker 2>of going, right.

1553
01:24:08.640 --> 01:24:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I mean we don't really have to read

1554
01:24:12.600 --> 01:24:14.600
<v Speaker 1>the entirety of it, but you could see that it's

1555
01:24:14.600 --> 01:24:18.800
<v Speaker 1>literally called pedigree of the twelve species of men, and

1556
01:24:18.840 --> 01:24:22.319
<v Speaker 1>this is how he broke down which ones were the

1557
01:24:22.399 --> 01:24:24.479
<v Speaker 1>ones that are still left where they all came from,

1558
01:24:25.640 --> 01:24:29.279
<v Speaker 1>and it makes them very strong. Later, later philosophers and

1559
01:24:29.399 --> 01:24:34.560
<v Speaker 1>later Third Reich leaders would use these very philosophies and

1560
01:24:34.760 --> 01:24:39.279
<v Speaker 1>thought processes and books and literature to back their claims

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01:24:39.479 --> 01:24:42.520
<v Speaker 1>to do heinous, heinous acts on the world.

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01:24:42.560 --> 01:24:44.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh, this is what he's talking about, the phylogenetic trees.

1563
01:24:45.319 --> 01:24:49.079
<v Speaker 3>So it's kind of like some kind of map that

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01:24:49.159 --> 01:24:52.399
<v Speaker 3>he has of like the lower level humans rising up

1565
01:24:52.439 --> 01:24:53.800
<v Speaker 3>to the top of the tree, which would be the

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01:24:53.840 --> 01:24:57.000
<v Speaker 3>highest level humans, which it's pretty fucked up whenever you're

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01:24:57.000 --> 01:24:59.720
<v Speaker 3>looking at all of like the bottom of the tree,

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01:24:59.800 --> 01:25:01.960
<v Speaker 3>all up to the top of the tree, you have

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01:25:02.159 --> 01:25:05.319
<v Speaker 3>like the Mongols that are evolving into the Chinese and

1570
01:25:05.359 --> 01:25:09.800
<v Speaker 3>the Japanese, and then those Chinese. Uh, they eventually evolve

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01:25:09.840 --> 01:25:13.279
<v Speaker 3>into the Siamese and the Chinese and the like. Oh wait,

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01:25:13.359 --> 01:25:16.760
<v Speaker 3>it's the Pudo Chinese and the Corco Japanese that eventually

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01:25:16.840 --> 01:25:19.439
<v Speaker 3>evolve into the Japanese and the Chinese and the Siamese

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01:25:19.479 --> 01:25:21.520
<v Speaker 3>of today, which eventually this.

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01:25:21.640 --> 01:25:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Is the German one, this is the English one, and

1576
01:25:23.720 --> 01:25:24.000
<v Speaker 2>so like.

1577
01:25:24.039 --> 01:25:27.239
<v Speaker 1>Look right here, the Madagascars and the Polynesians are of

1578
01:25:27.279 --> 01:25:30.640
<v Speaker 1>the same race allegedly according to him.

1579
01:25:30.600 --> 01:25:33.439
<v Speaker 3>And they never evolved further than what they're at, because

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01:25:33.600 --> 01:25:36.800
<v Speaker 3>even past that you would have the Americans on top

1581
01:25:36.880 --> 01:25:39.640
<v Speaker 3>and the end of Germanians on top as well, along

1582
01:25:39.680 --> 01:25:42.640
<v Speaker 3>with the Semites and the Caucasians. And yeah, you could

1583
01:25:42.640 --> 01:25:44.760
<v Speaker 3>see how oh and the Tartars. How about that you

1584
01:25:44.840 --> 01:25:46.319
<v Speaker 3>got the Tartars on this board too.

1585
01:25:46.880 --> 01:25:49.239
<v Speaker 2>The Tartars are what we now call the Mongolians.

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01:25:50.319 --> 01:25:52.520
<v Speaker 1>The maps that they looked at still refer to that

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01:25:52.640 --> 01:25:56.479
<v Speaker 1>area of North Asia as Tartaria. That that only became

1588
01:25:56.520 --> 01:26:00.000
<v Speaker 1>something else actually after he died. I would to say, actually,

1589
01:26:00.079 --> 01:26:03.159
<v Speaker 1>pretty much World War One wiped away Tartaria off the

1590
01:26:03.239 --> 01:26:05.760
<v Speaker 1>map because they got real particular about which countries had

1591
01:26:05.800 --> 01:26:06.920
<v Speaker 1>borders with which ones.

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01:26:06.960 --> 01:26:10.760
<v Speaker 3>After that, bitch, okay, you got the Hyperboreans on there too.

1593
01:26:10.800 --> 01:26:14.520
<v Speaker 3>It's pretty I mean, it'd be cool if it wasn't

1594
01:26:14.560 --> 01:26:16.520
<v Speaker 3>so fucked right.

1595
01:26:16.800 --> 01:26:19.760
<v Speaker 1>But you also see, as you're looking at this, how

1596
01:26:19.760 --> 01:26:24.159
<v Speaker 1>many other random theories and conspiracies and connections and things

1597
01:26:24.159 --> 01:26:27.760
<v Speaker 1>that we've brought up would probably be referencing this fucker's work.

1598
01:26:28.880 --> 01:26:30.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you can.

1599
01:26:30.840 --> 01:26:33.359
<v Speaker 1>And that's that's just kind of how it goes. And

1600
01:26:33.399 --> 01:26:36.079
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of literature written about this. If you

1601
01:26:36.119 --> 01:26:38.880
<v Speaker 1>want to see what's going on again patreon dot com.

1602
01:26:39.079 --> 01:26:41.279
<v Speaker 1>He had these profiles made to try to bring out

1603
01:26:41.279 --> 01:26:47.039
<v Speaker 1>certain features. He essentially was a racist, and again per

1604
01:26:47.039 --> 01:26:49.199
<v Speaker 1>the day and age, a lot of his contemporaries were

1605
01:26:49.239 --> 01:26:49.680
<v Speaker 1>as well.

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01:26:50.399 --> 01:26:55.079
<v Speaker 3>But again yes, maybe not even knowingly racist, you know.

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01:26:55.359 --> 01:26:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, again per that day and age, that wasn't

1608
01:26:59.600 --> 01:27:03.000
<v Speaker 1>seen as racist by people right. As a matter of fact,

1609
01:27:03.279 --> 01:27:05.760
<v Speaker 1>his protege was what was said to be one of

1610
01:27:05.800 --> 01:27:08.760
<v Speaker 1>the first anti racist scientists.

1611
01:27:09.359 --> 01:27:13.640
<v Speaker 3>That was wild back then, right, right, So I don't know,

1612
01:27:13.840 --> 01:27:16.239
<v Speaker 3>I mean you also got to look at like, I mean,

1613
01:27:16.239 --> 01:27:18.039
<v Speaker 3>I'm not trying to stick up for people like this

1614
01:27:18.239 --> 01:27:21.439
<v Speaker 3>because you know whatever, but like if you look at

1615
01:27:21.520 --> 01:27:25.560
<v Speaker 3>maybe they maybe they had like limited sources that they

1616
01:27:25.560 --> 01:27:27.359
<v Speaker 3>could pull from, and so a lot of it was

1617
01:27:27.399 --> 01:27:31.319
<v Speaker 3>really probably just pulling from like all right, well, you know,

1618
01:27:31.520 --> 01:27:34.359
<v Speaker 3>there are these white people who are clearly more advanced

1619
01:27:34.359 --> 01:27:37.399
<v Speaker 3>than the rest of everybody else, and maybe he was

1620
01:27:37.560 --> 01:27:40.119
<v Speaker 3>laying that as an overlay on top of the history

1621
01:27:40.119 --> 01:27:42.840
<v Speaker 3>of the world, that like maybe the white people evolved

1622
01:27:42.840 --> 01:27:45.720
<v Speaker 3>at a faster raid than anybody else, which is stupid

1623
01:27:45.760 --> 01:27:48.520
<v Speaker 3>because you can clearly see throughout the realms of history

1624
01:27:48.960 --> 01:27:52.880
<v Speaker 3>that you know, there's obviously slavery and racism and people

1625
01:27:52.880 --> 01:27:55.279
<v Speaker 3>who were held down by the by the you know,

1626
01:27:55.359 --> 01:28:00.640
<v Speaker 3>the the colonizers and whatnot. So absolutely agree in a way,

1627
01:28:00.680 --> 01:28:03.600
<v Speaker 3>you could say that if that story would be true,

1628
01:28:03.680 --> 01:28:10.359
<v Speaker 3>it would be because certain colonizers were holding down other races, right,

1629
01:28:11.439 --> 01:28:15.560
<v Speaker 3>And that's that's the bit of it, right, Like the

1630
01:28:15.800 --> 01:28:19.159
<v Speaker 3>theory of Wakonda, for instance, like as a thought experiment,

1631
01:28:19.760 --> 01:28:22.119
<v Speaker 3>if an African nation would have been left alone and

1632
01:28:22.199 --> 01:28:24.600
<v Speaker 3>had abundant resources, then they had to know how to

1633
01:28:24.640 --> 01:28:25.560
<v Speaker 3>do what they do with them.

1634
01:28:25.880 --> 01:28:29.399
<v Speaker 1>Could they have developed flying craft? Could they have developed tanks?

1635
01:28:29.399 --> 01:28:32.239
<v Speaker 1>Could they have developed all these things before European powers do.

1636
01:28:32.680 --> 01:28:35.680
<v Speaker 1>There is nothing saying that they couldn't have done that right,

1637
01:28:35.840 --> 01:28:38.520
<v Speaker 1>except for the fact that they pretty much were oppressed

1638
01:28:38.560 --> 01:28:42.479
<v Speaker 1>and hailed down by their colonizers. And that's what led

1639
01:28:42.520 --> 01:28:44.399
<v Speaker 1>to and not just in Africa. You look at any

1640
01:28:44.439 --> 01:28:47.319
<v Speaker 1>of these third world countries. I forget which philosopher I

1641
01:28:47.319 --> 01:28:51.479
<v Speaker 1>heard say this, but the world isn't bankrupt like the world.

1642
01:28:51.520 --> 01:28:53.439
<v Speaker 1>If you look at any section of the world, there

1643
01:28:53.520 --> 01:28:57.399
<v Speaker 1>is no area that is like desolate and devoid of everything.

1644
01:28:57.760 --> 01:29:00.319
<v Speaker 1>Certain areas may be good at doing things and others.

1645
01:29:00.359 --> 01:29:02.079
<v Speaker 1>And what he meant by that is certain areas might

1646
01:29:02.119 --> 01:29:05.720
<v Speaker 1>be more aggregable for farmland, certain areas might be better

1647
01:29:05.800 --> 01:29:11.399
<v Speaker 1>for mineral extraction, certain areas might be better in manpower. Yes,

1648
01:29:11.479 --> 01:29:13.399
<v Speaker 1>that is in fact a resource. When you have an

1649
01:29:13.439 --> 01:29:16.680
<v Speaker 1>extra one billion people on standby, that is a real

1650
01:29:16.840 --> 01:29:21.199
<v Speaker 1>tangible resource to make things happen. Right, if you look

1651
01:29:21.239 --> 01:29:23.640
<v Speaker 1>at the way the world is supposed to be structured,

1652
01:29:24.039 --> 01:29:27.680
<v Speaker 1>we have more than enough land to go around, food

1653
01:29:27.760 --> 01:29:30.680
<v Speaker 1>to go around, water to go around, medicine to go around.

1654
01:29:31.640 --> 01:29:34.039
<v Speaker 1>But we have an issue where we hoard all of

1655
01:29:34.119 --> 01:29:37.640
<v Speaker 1>resources for ourselves and that stems into other problems.

1656
01:29:37.800 --> 01:29:41.359
<v Speaker 3>Greed causes a lot of problems. Yeah, probably the most

1657
01:29:41.399 --> 01:29:43.159
<v Speaker 3>problems stem from greed.

1658
01:29:43.680 --> 01:29:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And so that's why we hear these fantastic stories

1659
01:29:47.960 --> 01:29:50.319
<v Speaker 1>of these lost lands, and we like to daydream and

1660
01:29:50.399 --> 01:29:53.800
<v Speaker 1>imagine that they were so much better than that, right,

1661
01:29:53.880 --> 01:29:58.640
<v Speaker 1>that they were technologically advanced, that they had medicinal things

1662
01:29:58.640 --> 01:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>that we have no idea about. They have I lost information,

1663
01:30:01.279 --> 01:30:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean lost to us, but like for them, was

1664
01:30:02.920 --> 01:30:06.800
<v Speaker 1>information that made them so much better. But that is

1665
01:30:06.880 --> 01:30:10.359
<v Speaker 1>under the assumption that greed hadn't poisoned them way back when,

1666
01:30:10.920 --> 01:30:13.479
<v Speaker 1>and there's nothing to say that it had. There's also

1667
01:30:13.479 --> 01:30:15.960
<v Speaker 1>nothing to say that it hadn't because we don't know.

1668
01:30:16.800 --> 01:30:19.880
<v Speaker 1>And then we look at the story of Atlantis allegedly debunked.

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01:30:20.119 --> 01:30:22.199
<v Speaker 1>We look at the continent of Mew as far as

1670
01:30:22.279 --> 01:30:25.199
<v Speaker 1>I could tell, debunked. We look at the continent of Lumeria,

1671
01:30:26.039 --> 01:30:30.319
<v Speaker 1>and there's a kernel of truth there and there's possibility

1672
01:30:30.399 --> 01:30:33.520
<v Speaker 1>that at one point in time, all of that stone

1673
01:30:33.560 --> 01:30:37.319
<v Speaker 1>that is under the ocean was actually dry land, and

1674
01:30:37.359 --> 01:30:40.880
<v Speaker 1>that the lemurs that live on Madagascar didn't swim to

1675
01:30:40.960 --> 01:30:44.760
<v Speaker 1>the fucking mainland, they walked or swung on the trees

1676
01:30:44.800 --> 01:30:48.760
<v Speaker 1>that were growing there that connected these lands.

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01:30:48.800 --> 01:30:51.880
<v Speaker 3>Pretty cool, dude. I mean, it's it's almost impossible to

1678
01:30:51.960 --> 01:30:54.159
<v Speaker 3>know these things for sure because we just, like I

1679
01:30:54.199 --> 01:30:57.520
<v Speaker 3>said earlier, like we just haven't discovered enough. And that's

1680
01:30:57.520 --> 01:31:01.079
<v Speaker 3>why I find it so ridiculous that we're funding we're

1681
01:31:01.079 --> 01:31:05.680
<v Speaker 3>funding NASA so much money, millions of dollars of taxpayer

1682
01:31:05.760 --> 01:31:11.159
<v Speaker 3>dollars every single day are going to NASA to explore space.

1683
01:31:11.199 --> 01:31:15.680
<v Speaker 3>It's like, dude, how are you going to explore space

1684
01:31:16.399 --> 01:31:19.560
<v Speaker 3>something that is off planet whenever you haven't even explored

1685
01:31:20.039 --> 01:31:22.960
<v Speaker 3>what's here? You know, like, what could be so much

1686
01:31:23.000 --> 01:31:26.319
<v Speaker 3>more astounding in space that you couldn't possibly find at

1687
01:31:26.359 --> 01:31:28.840
<v Speaker 3>the bottom of an ocean somewhere. I mean, there are

1688
01:31:28.880 --> 01:31:31.520
<v Speaker 3>certain animal or certain sea creatures and stuff like that

1689
01:31:31.520 --> 01:31:34.039
<v Speaker 3>that are completely undiscovered. You go up in some of

1690
01:31:34.079 --> 01:31:36.800
<v Speaker 3>the Amazon hasn't even fully been discovered. We don't know

1691
01:31:37.079 --> 01:31:40.640
<v Speaker 3>what all remedies and herbs and animals and maybe even

1692
01:31:40.720 --> 01:31:43.079
<v Speaker 3>people that are still living in the Amazon. We don't

1693
01:31:43.119 --> 01:31:46.840
<v Speaker 3>know nearly as much as we should. I feel like

1694
01:31:46.880 --> 01:31:50.920
<v Speaker 3>we should not to say this in a harmful way.

1695
01:31:51.159 --> 01:31:54.840
<v Speaker 3>We should probably conquer this place before we start conquering

1696
01:31:54.960 --> 01:31:56.399
<v Speaker 3>the sky.

1697
01:31:57.439 --> 01:32:00.279
<v Speaker 2>You're absolutely right. I think you're absolutely right.

1698
01:32:00.880 --> 01:32:05.319
<v Speaker 1>And with that, let's talk about the lost continent that

1699
01:32:05.399 --> 01:32:10.520
<v Speaker 1>has been confirmed and is currently being studied. Jonathan, Let's

1700
01:32:10.560 --> 01:32:15.000
<v Speaker 1>talk a little bit about Doggerland, because this in and

1701
01:32:15.039 --> 01:32:17.520
<v Speaker 1>of itself is fascinating to me. I'm go go ahead

1702
01:32:17.560 --> 01:32:19.760
<v Speaker 1>and share the screen one on another game. I got

1703
01:32:19.760 --> 01:32:21.560
<v Speaker 1>a couple of different videos. I'm a play and I

1704
01:32:21.560 --> 01:32:23.520
<v Speaker 1>got a couple of little things we're gonna read, but

1705
01:32:23.960 --> 01:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>this one, all right, listen, listen to any of the

1706
01:32:25.920 --> 01:32:31.039
<v Speaker 1>conspiracy heads out there. Mini minute Man shits on conspiracy

1707
01:32:31.079 --> 01:32:34.479
<v Speaker 1>theorist left, right and center. So whenever he did a

1708
01:32:34.600 --> 01:32:38.079
<v Speaker 1>video talking about a lost continent, I had to see

1709
01:32:38.079 --> 01:32:40.319
<v Speaker 1>what the fuck he had to say. And because he

1710
01:32:40.439 --> 01:32:44.520
<v Speaker 1>is an archaeologist, anthropologist, all these things, when he speaks

1711
01:32:44.520 --> 01:32:47.439
<v Speaker 1>so on it, he calls himself a science communicator. So

1712
01:32:47.680 --> 01:32:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to know from source of science, so to speak,

1713
01:32:51.640 --> 01:32:55.880
<v Speaker 1>what is the going narrative about this confirmed land mass

1714
01:32:55.920 --> 01:32:56.800
<v Speaker 1>called Doggerland.

1715
01:32:56.920 --> 01:33:00.840
<v Speaker 12>Ajured discoveries in archaeology and natural history, The locals were

1716
01:33:00.840 --> 01:33:03.279
<v Speaker 12>familiar with it for far longer than science had been,

1717
01:33:03.359 --> 01:33:05.840
<v Speaker 12>and Doggerland was no different. Those who lived on the

1718
01:33:05.840 --> 01:33:08.439
<v Speaker 12>shores of the North Sea were all too familiar with

1719
01:33:08.560 --> 01:33:11.680
<v Speaker 12>the putrid black stumps that would appear at low tide.

1720
01:33:11.720 --> 01:33:13.319
<v Speaker 12>In fact, they were so familiar with them that they

1721
01:33:13.319 --> 01:33:16.279
<v Speaker 12>actually referred to this phenomenon as Noah's Wood, a reference

1722
01:33:16.319 --> 01:33:18.720
<v Speaker 12>to the mythical deluge in the Bible, which the locals

1723
01:33:18.760 --> 01:33:20.439
<v Speaker 12>used to explain the stumps underwater.

1724
01:33:21.479 --> 01:33:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so, like he's saying, they pretty much knew that

1725
01:33:25.000 --> 01:33:27.720
<v Speaker 1>this existed. There was no question that you know, these

1726
01:33:28.000 --> 01:33:31.159
<v Speaker 1>these giant chunks of black shit were all around them

1727
01:33:31.159 --> 01:33:32.000
<v Speaker 1>at all given times.

1728
01:33:32.079 --> 01:33:34.600
<v Speaker 12>Riteena geologists by the name of Clement Reed, became one

1729
01:33:34.600 --> 01:33:37.199
<v Speaker 12>of the first scientists to actually look into the phenomenon

1730
01:33:37.239 --> 01:33:40.479
<v Speaker 12>of Noah's Wood. His book, called Submerged Forests, became one

1731
01:33:40.520 --> 01:33:44.039
<v Speaker 12>of the very first actual scientific publications theorizing that there

1732
01:33:44.119 --> 01:33:46.640
<v Speaker 12>was a sunken land mass in the North Sea. In

1733
01:33:46.680 --> 01:33:48.760
<v Speaker 12>the book, he notes that the stumps extend far out

1734
01:33:48.760 --> 01:33:50.960
<v Speaker 12>below the low tideline, and he infers from this that

1735
01:33:51.000 --> 01:33:53.399
<v Speaker 12>at one time these must have been immense forests, and

1736
01:33:53.560 --> 01:33:55.960
<v Speaker 12>that these forests must have extended far out into what

1737
01:33:56.079 --> 01:33:56.880
<v Speaker 12>is now an ocean.

1738
01:33:56.920 --> 01:33:57.079
<v Speaker 13>Now.

1739
01:33:57.079 --> 01:33:59.000
<v Speaker 12>He backs up this claim by looking at some other

1740
01:33:59.079 --> 01:34:02.199
<v Speaker 12>discoveries by the local coastal people. The local fishermen were

1741
01:34:02.239 --> 01:34:04.840
<v Speaker 12>all too familiar with finding washed up animal bones on

1742
01:34:04.880 --> 01:34:07.319
<v Speaker 12>the shores and having their hooks and lines ensnared in

1743
01:34:07.399 --> 01:34:09.399
<v Speaker 12>chunks of peat far out into the ocean.

1744
01:34:09.520 --> 01:34:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Ya, okay, so what are you thinking at this time?

1745
01:34:13.720 --> 01:34:18.279
<v Speaker 1>By the way, dogger Land is allegedly named after excuse me,

1746
01:34:18.760 --> 01:34:22.239
<v Speaker 1>after what was considered like a trawler boat, which is

1747
01:34:22.399 --> 01:34:25.399
<v Speaker 1>they call it a dogger So since they've been trawling

1748
01:34:25.439 --> 01:34:27.880
<v Speaker 1>in this area for so long, it got affectionately known

1749
01:34:27.920 --> 01:34:30.119
<v Speaker 1>as dogger Land, and then when they first wrote about it,

1750
01:34:30.159 --> 01:34:34.039
<v Speaker 1>they just kind of stuck to it. Okay, the do

1751
01:34:34.159 --> 01:34:37.720
<v Speaker 1>their trawling, are pulling up animal bones for forever that

1752
01:34:37.800 --> 01:34:39.079
<v Speaker 1>they can't even identify.

1753
01:34:39.520 --> 01:34:40.720
<v Speaker 2>And they've been doing this.

1754
01:34:40.640 --> 01:34:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Again for forever, and no one thought to dig deeper

1755
01:34:44.359 --> 01:34:45.479
<v Speaker 1>until you know what I mean?

1756
01:34:45.680 --> 01:34:47.680
<v Speaker 3>See what I'm saying, dude, Like, why are we not

1757
01:34:47.880 --> 01:34:51.239
<v Speaker 3>more interested in what's at the ocean floor? Like, oh,

1758
01:34:51.279 --> 01:34:54.399
<v Speaker 3>how could you not be more interested? Especially understanding how

1759
01:34:54.399 --> 01:34:58.880
<v Speaker 3>plate tectonics work, how volcanic activity works, that like obviously,

1760
01:34:58.960 --> 01:35:01.880
<v Speaker 3>if we're going to learn and from actual past, like

1761
01:35:02.319 --> 01:35:04.880
<v Speaker 3>that would be the best way to learn. Because if

1762
01:35:04.920 --> 01:35:07.119
<v Speaker 3>you can see that there are animal bones that are

1763
01:35:07.119 --> 01:35:09.319
<v Speaker 3>being pulled up from like animals nobody's ever heard of.

1764
01:35:09.359 --> 01:35:13.439
<v Speaker 3>There's the skeletal structure has allegedly never existed in science,

1765
01:35:13.560 --> 01:35:16.640
<v Speaker 3>Like this is far more fascinating than fucking going out

1766
01:35:16.680 --> 01:35:20.039
<v Speaker 3>into the nothingness of space, you know, if space is

1767
01:35:20.399 --> 01:35:22.039
<v Speaker 3>indeed not fake and gay.

1768
01:35:22.600 --> 01:35:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Jonathan, I am so glad you said it like that,

1769
01:35:25.119 --> 01:35:26.119
<v Speaker 1>because I agree.

1770
01:35:26.439 --> 01:35:28.479
<v Speaker 2>And when you look at all these writers.

1771
01:35:28.159 --> 01:35:31.359
<v Speaker 1>The Blovotskis and the Crowley's and all this, and they're

1772
01:35:31.399 --> 01:35:34.439
<v Speaker 1>talking about these ancient lands, these ancient ways. Dude, their

1773
01:35:34.520 --> 01:35:38.359
<v Speaker 1>land was founded upon druidic ruins next to a lost

1774
01:35:38.439 --> 01:35:42.000
<v Speaker 1>continent that none of them fucking mentioned because they were

1775
01:35:42.000 --> 01:35:44.840
<v Speaker 1>more focused on what's going on in India when they're

1776
01:35:45.239 --> 01:35:48.720
<v Speaker 1>real ancestral history was sixty feet below the surface of

1777
01:35:48.760 --> 01:35:49.119
<v Speaker 1>the water.

1778
01:35:50.239 --> 01:35:53.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's wild to me, but let's continue.

1779
01:35:53.279 --> 01:35:55.560
<v Speaker 1>I want to throw shade because this land itself is

1780
01:35:55.680 --> 01:35:58.520
<v Speaker 1>wild and I cannot wait to see what they discover

1781
01:35:58.960 --> 01:36:01.399
<v Speaker 1>now that they're doing it, because I think they may

1782
01:36:01.560 --> 01:36:04.920
<v Speaker 1>realistically find some sort of ancient druidic remains. I fucking

1783
01:36:04.960 --> 01:36:07.840
<v Speaker 1>hope they do, but I'm getting ahead of myself, getting

1784
01:36:07.880 --> 01:36:08.520
<v Speaker 1>ahead of myself.

1785
01:36:08.640 --> 01:36:11.359
<v Speaker 12>Coas belonged to extinct animals, and that chunks of pete

1786
01:36:11.359 --> 01:36:13.880
<v Speaker 12>weren't just collected out to the low tideline, but far

1787
01:36:13.960 --> 01:36:16.520
<v Speaker 12>out to sea. The locals even had a name for these,

1788
01:36:16.680 --> 01:36:18.479
<v Speaker 12>referring to the chunks of pete dredged from.

1789
01:36:18.319 --> 01:36:19.880
<v Speaker 4>The seafloor as moor logs.

1790
01:36:19.960 --> 01:36:22.359
<v Speaker 12>But perhaps one of the biggest connections that Clements makes

1791
01:36:22.439 --> 01:36:24.680
<v Speaker 12>is to something called the Dogger Bank. It's an area

1792
01:36:24.720 --> 01:36:27.039
<v Speaker 12>of the North Sea about sixty miles from the nearest land,

1793
01:36:27.199 --> 01:36:29.680
<v Speaker 12>but it has a depth of only about sixty feet.

1794
01:36:29.760 --> 01:36:32.479
<v Speaker 12>This seemingly random area of shallow water was very well

1795
01:36:32.520 --> 01:36:34.520
<v Speaker 12>known by all of the local fishermen, so with all

1796
01:36:34.560 --> 01:36:37.359
<v Speaker 12>of the pieces that Clement was collecting, he created this

1797
01:36:37.720 --> 01:36:41.000
<v Speaker 12>the first ever geologic map, roughly outlining what would go

1798
01:36:41.079 --> 01:36:43.119
<v Speaker 12>on to become known as Doggerland.

1799
01:36:43.239 --> 01:36:44.520
<v Speaker 4>Knowing what we know today, it is.

1800
01:36:44.560 --> 01:36:47.520
<v Speaker 12>Really amazing looking at this map, because in nineteen thirteen,

1801
01:36:47.680 --> 01:36:50.840
<v Speaker 12>with almost no technology to actually map the seafloor, Clement

1802
01:36:50.920 --> 01:36:53.720
<v Speaker 12>managed to put together a really good map of what

1803
01:36:53.800 --> 01:36:54.720
<v Speaker 12>Doggerland would have.

1804
01:36:54.640 --> 01:36:57.039
<v Speaker 1>Been like real quick, I do want to pull that

1805
01:36:57.079 --> 01:37:00.560
<v Speaker 1>picture back up again. If you notice he is bringing

1806
01:37:00.600 --> 01:37:05.479
<v Speaker 1>in mainland England, mainland Europe, and there's rivers that currently

1807
01:37:05.600 --> 01:37:08.359
<v Speaker 1>reside today. We will discuss those in a minute. But

1808
01:37:09.079 --> 01:37:12.079
<v Speaker 1>the rivers that you can trek now that they are

1809
01:37:12.199 --> 01:37:15.159
<v Speaker 1>exploring the oceanic floor like they're doing in this area.

1810
01:37:15.479 --> 01:37:18.600
<v Speaker 1>The rivers from Europe still to this day that once

1811
01:37:18.640 --> 01:37:21.279
<v Speaker 1>flowed through Doggerland into the North Sea.

1812
01:37:21.359 --> 01:37:23.520
<v Speaker 2>You could still see the craters of them. You could

1813
01:37:23.520 --> 01:37:24.439
<v Speaker 2>still see the cuts.

1814
01:37:25.680 --> 01:37:28.920
<v Speaker 3>Dude. All right, dude, let's go this wild shit.

1815
01:37:29.159 --> 01:37:32.079
<v Speaker 12>This is because the ocean is rising or the land

1816
01:37:32.239 --> 01:37:34.680
<v Speaker 12>is lowering. Though with the information he had at the time,

1817
01:37:34.720 --> 01:37:37.439
<v Speaker 12>he speculates that this was due to the land getting lower,

1818
01:37:37.600 --> 01:37:39.560
<v Speaker 12>which we now know to be not true, and he

1819
01:37:39.640 --> 01:37:43.560
<v Speaker 12>even postulates when this subsidence ended about three thousand years ago,

1820
01:37:43.640 --> 01:37:45.880
<v Speaker 12>and he uses some pretty logical trains of reasoning, even

1821
01:37:45.920 --> 01:37:48.640
<v Speaker 12>if they are incorrect by today's standards. This paper is

1822
01:37:48.680 --> 01:37:51.239
<v Speaker 12>absolutely amazing and is available for free online and is

1823
01:37:51.279 --> 01:37:53.119
<v Speaker 12>linked with the rest of my sources in the description.

1824
01:37:53.199 --> 01:37:54.840
<v Speaker 12>If you're looking for a fun read to just kind

1825
01:37:54.840 --> 01:37:56.399
<v Speaker 12>of like flip through and look at some cool old

1826
01:37:56.479 --> 01:37:58.560
<v Speaker 12>diagrams and stuff. I recommend you check it out. In

1827
01:37:58.600 --> 01:38:01.039
<v Speaker 12>the final page of Clement's book, he says this, in

1828
01:38:01.079 --> 01:38:04.199
<v Speaker 12>this connection, it might be worthwhile systematically to dredge the

1829
01:38:04.279 --> 01:38:07.119
<v Speaker 12>Dogger bank in order to see whether any implements made

1830
01:38:07.159 --> 01:38:10.279
<v Speaker 12>by man can be found there. With his conclusion, Clemens

1831
01:38:10.279 --> 01:38:13.000
<v Speaker 12>had correctly inferred that if there was land, there must

1832
01:38:13.079 --> 01:38:16.119
<v Speaker 12>have been people. Now, unfortunately, Clements would die just three

1833
01:38:16.199 --> 01:38:18.239
<v Speaker 12>years after the publication of this book in the year

1834
01:38:18.319 --> 01:38:21.159
<v Speaker 12>nineteen sixteen, and he would never know that his hypothesized

1835
01:38:21.199 --> 01:38:22.279
<v Speaker 12>lost land would.

1836
01:38:22.079 --> 01:38:23.680
<v Speaker 4>Go on to be proven true.

1837
01:38:23.880 --> 01:38:26.479
<v Speaker 12>I mere fifteen years after Clemens's death, would is widely

1838
01:38:26.520 --> 01:38:29.560
<v Speaker 12>regarded as the first artifact from Doggerland was recovered.

1839
01:38:29.760 --> 01:38:31.319
<v Speaker 4>The artifact, of course, was none.

1840
01:38:31.199 --> 01:38:34.520
<v Speaker 12>Other than a six inch long bone harpoon dredged from

1841
01:38:34.520 --> 01:38:36.119
<v Speaker 12>the troller Colinda.

1842
01:38:35.800 --> 01:38:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, what is your thoughts before we do anything else, sir?

1843
01:38:39.720 --> 01:38:41.239
<v Speaker 3>That's supposed to be a bone right there.

1844
01:38:42.079 --> 01:38:47.399
<v Speaker 1>That is a six inch long bone. It's carved bone harpoon.

1845
01:38:47.680 --> 01:38:49.800
<v Speaker 3>Because it kind of looks like copper almost, doesn't it.

1846
01:38:50.479 --> 01:38:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean it was found in the peat. You

1847
01:38:52.640 --> 01:38:53.239
<v Speaker 2>gotta keep mind.

1848
01:38:53.279 --> 01:38:55.800
<v Speaker 1>These trowlers drugged this up and it was I mean

1849
01:38:55.800 --> 01:38:59.479
<v Speaker 1>it's we'll discuss why it's actually a red antler, red

1850
01:38:59.520 --> 01:39:01.600
<v Speaker 1>stag antler, so that might also be why it's a

1851
01:39:01.640 --> 01:39:04.600
<v Speaker 1>little bit of reddish tint. But it was submerged in

1852
01:39:04.760 --> 01:39:07.920
<v Speaker 1>mud and pete for thousands of years and then was

1853
01:39:08.039 --> 01:39:10.640
<v Speaker 1>dredged up by a fishing boat on accident.

1854
01:39:11.840 --> 01:39:14.239
<v Speaker 3>That is freaking awesome. So it's said to be like

1855
01:39:15.119 --> 01:39:19.520
<v Speaker 3>a possible an antler from some kind of deer, but

1856
01:39:19.560 --> 01:39:22.640
<v Speaker 3>it was carved into seemingly by ancient people.

1857
01:39:23.760 --> 01:39:25.800
<v Speaker 1>We are going to talk more about the harpoon and

1858
01:39:25.880 --> 01:39:29.039
<v Speaker 1>a bit, I promise you. However, at this time, let's

1859
01:39:29.039 --> 01:39:31.399
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and read a little bit of some histories

1860
01:39:32.000 --> 01:39:35.680
<v Speaker 1>or historic mysteries, if you will, Doggerland and the Lost

1861
01:39:36.079 --> 01:39:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Kingdom of the British Isles. Because this goes oh as

1862
01:39:39.920 --> 01:39:42.199
<v Speaker 1>you're talking abut Kung Fu Panda, that commercial popped up

1863
01:39:42.239 --> 01:39:44.319
<v Speaker 1>on screen they are currently listening cult members.

1864
01:39:44.680 --> 01:39:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Anyway. Anyway, let's go ahead.

1865
01:39:46.720 --> 01:39:50.000
<v Speaker 1>And read what the historical narrative is at this time

1866
01:39:50.239 --> 01:39:51.600
<v Speaker 1>of Doggerland.

1867
01:39:52.079 --> 01:39:54.920
<v Speaker 3>Beneath the waves of the North Sea lies a long

1868
01:39:54.960 --> 01:39:58.560
<v Speaker 3>forgotten kingdom known as Doggerland. It is a submerged land

1869
01:39:58.600 --> 01:40:01.680
<v Speaker 3>that once connected what is now Great Britain and to

1870
01:40:01.800 --> 01:40:07.239
<v Speaker 3>mainland Europe. This mesolithic landscape, lost to the depths of time,

1871
01:40:07.279 --> 01:40:11.119
<v Speaker 3>offers a unique window into a prehistoric world. Hidden under

1872
01:40:11.159 --> 01:40:13.680
<v Speaker 3>the waves is a rich history that predates the separation

1873
01:40:13.760 --> 01:40:16.680
<v Speaker 3>of the British Isles from the European mainland, revealing a

1874
01:40:16.680 --> 01:40:20.039
<v Speaker 3>civilization that thrived in an era long before recorded history.

1875
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<v Speaker 3>In recent years, excitement around Doggerland has peaked, and as

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<v Speaker 3>the discoveries pile up, its history feels more relevant to

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<v Speaker 3>a situation today than ever before.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say that you're going to hear a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of global warming references because sea levels rising. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>part of it, dude, when we're talking about this land

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01:40:40.000 --> 01:40:42.239
<v Speaker 1>that has been washed under the ocean. But then if

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<v Speaker 1>you look at it, it's not like it broke away.

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<v Speaker 1>The sea levels rose and it swallowed it. That being

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<v Speaker 1>discovered as of now also leads a lot of credence

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<v Speaker 1>to these people that are saying that humans are causing

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth's temperature to rise. I do not understand how

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01:40:58.800 --> 01:41:01.520
<v Speaker 1>they see it that way. Apparently this land was lost

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<v Speaker 1>over ten thousand years ago, and somehow human industry is

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<v Speaker 1>making this a thing today. I don't see the connection

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<v Speaker 1>but that is something that I should preface this.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna hear a little.

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<v Speaker 3>Bit about dude. Cars have been around for like one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred years.

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<v Speaker 1>We have been Humans have been involved in heavy industry

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote for about two hundred years. I'll give you

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<v Speaker 1>two fifty, all right, that you're telling me that we

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<v Speaker 1>have done so much irreputable damage in two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty years that apparently ten thousand years ago alleged dudes

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<v Speaker 1>with harpoons made of bones were facing That's what we're

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<v Speaker 1>saying right now.

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<v Speaker 3>But okay, it's so ridiculous. It's so ridiculous because if

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<v Speaker 3>you actually I know, I get a little woo woo

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<v Speaker 3>on here, but if you actually look at the Earth

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<v Speaker 3>as a living, breathing being and compared to an animal,

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01:41:52.840 --> 01:41:56.319
<v Speaker 3>a human or whatever, that would be like that would

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<v Speaker 3>be like saying, all right, so, if human pollution is

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01:42:01.159 --> 01:42:03.920
<v Speaker 3>what's causing global warming, and that's what's causing it to

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<v Speaker 3>have these crazy cycles of hot and cold and waves

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01:42:07.600 --> 01:42:09.880
<v Speaker 3>going up and waves going down, and things starting to

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<v Speaker 3>freeze and things starting to unthaw because they can't decide

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<v Speaker 3>whether it's global warming or global cooling. It would be

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<v Speaker 3>in the same retrospect as saying, well, when Jacob, whenever

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<v Speaker 3>you're emotional, because you know the human mind and the body,

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01:42:25.720 --> 01:42:27.920
<v Speaker 3>it has its ups and downs. We have high emotions,

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<v Speaker 3>low emotions. Maybe we get a little depressed or anxious,

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<v Speaker 3>or maybe we experience some kind of happiness or joy

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever. There's just the range of the human emotion.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>But if that's like saying, well, because we drilled for oil, Jacob,

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<v Speaker 3>the reason why you're in such a depressive state is

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<v Speaker 3>because we did it to ourselves by drilling for oil

1922
01:42:47.000 --> 01:42:50.199
<v Speaker 3>and the gas the cars that are driving down the road.

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<v Speaker 3>It's your fault as to why you're feeling depressed. But

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01:42:53.359 --> 01:42:57.319
<v Speaker 3>it's not necessarily only your fault. It's all of humanity's fault, right,

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01:42:57.439 --> 01:43:00.520
<v Speaker 3>because we have to just look down on our at

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<v Speaker 3>all times, because equally fucking ridiculous, I think, absolutely all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So now let's read a little bit more about

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<v Speaker 1>Britain's Mesolithic Atlantis.

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<v Speaker 3>During the Mesolithic period around ten thousand to six thousand

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<v Speaker 3>years ago, Doggerland was a sprawling expanse that linked modern

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01:43:17.119 --> 01:43:20.439
<v Speaker 3>day Great Britain to mainland Europe. This submerged kingdom extended

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01:43:20.439 --> 01:43:22.960
<v Speaker 3>across what is now the north Sea and was a

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<v Speaker 3>biodiverse lowland believed to have been inhabited by a Mesolithic population.

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<v Speaker 3>It was made up of river river valley's estuaries and

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01:43:33.600 --> 01:43:37.039
<v Speaker 3>lush rolling landscapes, and from what we can tell, it

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<v Speaker 3>was a veritable Garden of Eden.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look at these maps, suit.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, shit, So Doggerland and Dogger Bank, the British Isles

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01:43:49.119 --> 01:43:52.439
<v Speaker 3>and maritime area of sunken Doggerland. So the yellow would

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<v Speaker 3>be the Viking Bank and the orange would be the

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<v Speaker 3>dogger Bank.

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<v Speaker 1>Shoal Well, I mean you could see here how like

1943
01:43:59.399 --> 01:44:01.479
<v Speaker 1>the plate tech tonics of it all. And you see

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01:44:01.520 --> 01:44:04.239
<v Speaker 1>how the northern part of the UK and this right

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<v Speaker 1>here the southern part of Norway, how they connect and

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01:44:06.760 --> 01:44:09.920
<v Speaker 1>you see these things right? Sure, I said, I said Norway.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean shit, hold on, is that the Netherlands or Norway?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I said something else earlier.

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<v Speaker 3>Scandinavia.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean yeah, that would be the the island mass, yeah, Scandinavia,

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<v Speaker 1>Viking people, and you see how they are pretty much

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01:44:22.600 --> 01:44:25.199
<v Speaker 1>on a straight line latitudinally to each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, good that we bring that up now, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to play in here in a little bit with

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<v Speaker 1>more confirmation of how not only did this land confirmed exist,

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01:44:35.680 --> 01:44:39.000
<v Speaker 1>but they were way more intelligent than what we realized.

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<v Speaker 3>So they weren't savages, is what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Not from what I can tell. As a matter of fact,

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01:44:45.159 --> 01:44:48.079
<v Speaker 1>they were so intelligent that they knew what coastal erosion

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01:44:48.399 --> 01:44:50.720
<v Speaker 1>was and we're doing things to prevent.

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<v Speaker 3>It, okay. Situated in what is now the North Sea Basin,

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01:44:55.680 --> 01:44:58.800
<v Speaker 3>Doggerland was a land bridge created by lower sea levels

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01:44:58.840 --> 01:45:02.119
<v Speaker 3>resulting from the Last Ice Age. The presence of ancient

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01:45:02.199 --> 01:45:05.319
<v Speaker 3>river valleys beneath the sea attest to the regions once

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01:45:05.439 --> 01:45:09.520
<v Speaker 3>vibrant ecosystems, and the likely presence of human settlements is

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01:45:10.000 --> 01:45:12.880
<v Speaker 3>It is this human presence that is so exciting. It's

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<v Speaker 3>believed Doggerland was home to nomadic hunter gatherers who migrated

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01:45:17.600 --> 01:45:21.840
<v Speaker 3>as the seasons changed, fishing, hunting, and foraging Doggerland's lush

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01:45:21.920 --> 01:45:25.319
<v Speaker 3>landscape for goods like nuts and berries. While Doggerland may

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01:45:25.359 --> 01:45:28.640
<v Speaker 3>be deep beneath the waves, today it is a treasure

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01:45:28.680 --> 01:45:33.000
<v Speaker 3>trove of Mesolithic artifacts. The Lost World, or this Lost World,

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01:45:33.039 --> 01:45:36.039
<v Speaker 3>may have much to teach us about Britain's earliest settlers

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01:45:36.039 --> 01:45:39.119
<v Speaker 3>and their swap from the hunter gatherer lifestyle to an

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<v Speaker 3>agricultural one.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, yeah, we'll read that part and then

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01:45:44.000 --> 01:45:44.880
<v Speaker 1>we'll watch Lavidia.

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<v Speaker 3>So does such a huge land mass disappear? Or so,

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01:45:49.840 --> 01:45:53.159
<v Speaker 3>how does such a land mass huge land mass disappear

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<v Speaker 3>never to be seen again. Well, perhaps a warning of

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01:45:55.880 --> 01:45:58.199
<v Speaker 3>things to come. We have global warming to thank for

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01:45:58.279 --> 01:46:02.359
<v Speaker 3>Doggerland's disappearance. Temperatures warmed up and ice melted at the

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01:46:02.439 --> 01:46:05.319
<v Speaker 3>end of the last glacial period. Vast amounts of water

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01:46:05.399 --> 01:46:09.039
<v Speaker 3>were released, causing a rise in sea levels. At the

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01:46:09.079 --> 01:46:12.960
<v Speaker 3>same time, the land itself began to tilt as the

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01:46:13.079 --> 01:46:16.399
<v Speaker 3>massive weight of all that ice relaxed, in what is

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01:46:16.479 --> 01:46:22.000
<v Speaker 3>called an isostatic adjustment, almost like a teeter totter. As

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01:46:22.199 --> 01:46:26.880
<v Speaker 3>the once ice laden land rose, Doggerland sank even further

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01:46:26.960 --> 01:46:30.920
<v Speaker 3>into the rising sea levels. Around By around sixty five

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01:46:31.000 --> 01:46:34.000
<v Speaker 3>hundred BC, Doggerland had sunk to the point that the

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01:46:34.000 --> 01:46:37.479
<v Speaker 3>British Peninsula was completely cut off from the European mainland

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01:46:37.720 --> 01:46:40.680
<v Speaker 3>and Britain became an island. All that was left of

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01:46:40.720 --> 01:46:44.119
<v Speaker 3>Doggerland was an upland area called Dogger Bank, which remained

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01:46:44.159 --> 01:46:47.439
<v Speaker 3>in island until roughly five thousand BC. So hold on

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<v Speaker 3>let me gather this. If what they're trying to lay

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01:46:50.239 --> 01:46:50.880
<v Speaker 3>down here.

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<v Speaker 2>They're saying because these dates are quite interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>As we just talked about Plato with his story about

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01:46:56.600 --> 01:46:59.960
<v Speaker 1>some lost lands so many thousands of years prior to him.

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<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, So if Doggerland sunk sixty five hundred BC,

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01:47:05.800 --> 01:47:10.159
<v Speaker 3>which would be what like fucking eighty five hundred years ago.

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01:47:10.720 --> 01:47:13.039
<v Speaker 1>Allegedly right around the time the Pyramids are being built,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So if it's sunk around eighty five hundred years ago,

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01:47:17.760 --> 01:47:21.279
<v Speaker 3>what the hell does human cause global warming have to

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01:47:21.319 --> 01:47:21.800
<v Speaker 3>do with this?

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01:47:22.920 --> 01:47:25.359
<v Speaker 2>See, That's what I'm saying. They keep trying to bring

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01:47:25.399 --> 01:47:25.600
<v Speaker 2>it in.

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01:47:25.640 --> 01:47:27.560
<v Speaker 1>It's like, this is the melting of the last ice

2010
01:47:27.640 --> 01:47:29.079
<v Speaker 1>age that led to this.

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<v Speaker 2>Water rise and bah bah bab.

2012
01:47:30.479 --> 01:47:34.760
<v Speaker 1>But global warming It's like, wait, bro, what can can you?

2013
01:47:34.840 --> 01:47:38.239
<v Speaker 1>Can you talk about the the find without starting to

2014
01:47:38.239 --> 01:47:41.199
<v Speaker 1>bring in some sort of a hot button issue.

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<v Speaker 3>For today that that just reminds me of Remember remember

2016
01:47:46.239 --> 01:47:49.760
<v Speaker 3>what was it, uh, the hurricane that we were experiencing

2017
01:47:49.800 --> 01:47:52.239
<v Speaker 3>back in like twenty twenty and Biden's like, well, the

2018
01:47:52.239 --> 01:47:53.960
<v Speaker 3>main thing that you can do to prepare for this

2019
01:47:54.079 --> 01:47:57.840
<v Speaker 3>hurricane is to go get your your COVID vacs. Yes,

2020
01:47:58.159 --> 01:48:01.279
<v Speaker 3>that's oh my god, what the fuck are you talking about?

2021
01:48:02.079 --> 01:48:05.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, before this hurricane hits, we want to

2022
01:48:05.159 --> 01:48:07.399
<v Speaker 1>make sure everybody gets their vaccines so they're ready for

2023
01:48:07.760 --> 01:48:09.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, in case you lose power and whatnot.

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01:48:09.880 --> 01:48:11.680
<v Speaker 2>Bro, what what are.

2025
01:48:11.560 --> 01:48:14.199
<v Speaker 3>You talking about? Is that going to keep me afloat?

2026
01:48:15.000 --> 01:48:18.159
<v Speaker 3>Does this vaccine has does it? Is there helium pumped

2027
01:48:18.159 --> 01:48:20.279
<v Speaker 3>into it? That's going to allow me to just float

2028
01:48:20.279 --> 01:48:22.359
<v Speaker 3>to the top of the water so that I can survive?

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01:48:22.680 --> 01:48:23.720
<v Speaker 3>What are we talking about?

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01:48:24.399 --> 01:48:27.159
<v Speaker 1>We want to make sure that before this hurricane hits,

2031
01:48:27.159 --> 01:48:29.319
<v Speaker 1>you go get you fill up your gas tanks, right,

2032
01:48:29.720 --> 01:48:32.319
<v Speaker 1>because we know the gas pumps are gonna be out

2033
01:48:32.359 --> 01:48:34.640
<v Speaker 1>for a while. And if you can't get gasy car,

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01:48:35.000 --> 01:48:37.199
<v Speaker 1>how will you drive yourself to the clinic to go

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01:48:37.239 --> 01:48:38.520
<v Speaker 1>get your free COVID vacs?

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01:48:38.840 --> 01:48:40.359
<v Speaker 2>How can you do that? You need to make sure

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01:48:40.399 --> 01:48:41.119
<v Speaker 2>you get your gas.

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01:48:41.279 --> 01:48:43.800
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, Bro, you could have stopped at a

2039
01:48:43.800 --> 01:48:46.000
<v Speaker 1>certain point in that sentence and it would have been fine.

2040
01:48:46.079 --> 01:48:48.239
<v Speaker 1>Why did you have to shove that one in our

2041
01:48:48.239 --> 01:48:49.239
<v Speaker 1>faces again?

2042
01:48:49.479 --> 01:48:51.520
<v Speaker 2>So global warming is the new one.

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01:48:51.840 --> 01:48:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Everything that I can find about anything mew Lameria, all

2044
01:48:55.920 --> 01:48:57.920
<v Speaker 1>of these things had to do. I didn't play all

2045
01:48:57.960 --> 01:48:59.600
<v Speaker 1>of those, and I didn't let us read those, but

2046
01:48:59.640 --> 01:49:03.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you now, I found so much global warming

2047
01:49:03.239 --> 01:49:08.079
<v Speaker 1>bullshit surrounding two continents that science doesn't even believe existed.

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01:49:08.920 --> 01:49:10.800
<v Speaker 1>But we need to talk about global warming while we're

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01:49:10.800 --> 01:49:11.039
<v Speaker 1>at it.

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01:49:11.079 --> 01:49:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Like, bro, what dude?

2051
01:49:12.720 --> 01:49:17.199
<v Speaker 3>Science just has a fucking raging hard on for global

2052
01:49:17.239 --> 01:49:19.840
<v Speaker 3>warming for some reason, because it's the only thing that

2053
01:49:19.960 --> 01:49:21.560
<v Speaker 3>explains away everything.

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01:49:22.199 --> 01:49:23.119
<v Speaker 2>It gives them funding.

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01:49:23.640 --> 01:49:26.479
<v Speaker 1>If they can claim that whatever research they're digging into

2056
01:49:27.319 --> 01:49:30.079
<v Speaker 1>may be connected to a case against global warming or

2057
01:49:30.079 --> 01:49:33.720
<v Speaker 1>for global warming research in favor of whatever, they are

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01:49:33.760 --> 01:49:35.000
<v Speaker 1>more likely to get funding.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta get that cheese. This is why, this is

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01:49:38.319 --> 01:49:42.239
<v Speaker 3>why it's This is a very clear opportunity to take

2061
01:49:42.560 --> 01:49:46.680
<v Speaker 3>and say you don't always trust the science. Don't always

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01:49:46.680 --> 01:49:49.279
<v Speaker 3>trust it because it's backed by big dollars who are

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01:49:49.319 --> 01:49:53.399
<v Speaker 3>trying to to to push other things like it's always

2064
01:49:53.640 --> 01:49:57.399
<v Speaker 3>science for a reason. Like ye, that's that's not how

2065
01:49:57.520 --> 01:49:59.760
<v Speaker 3>you should look at science. Science is not something that's

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01:49:59.760 --> 01:50:02.640
<v Speaker 3>set stone. It's so so stupid to just go on

2067
01:50:02.800 --> 01:50:05.640
<v Speaker 3>accepting things because other people are being paid to push

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01:50:05.680 --> 01:50:11.159
<v Speaker 3>you and propagandize you and hypnotize you into believing this malarkey.

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<v Speaker 1>But then they get to a point where they can't

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<v Speaker 1>refute it and they have to acknowledge it. Lost continents,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my bad, we just discovered a fucking massive one

2072
01:50:21.600 --> 01:50:25.840
<v Speaker 1>right next to England. All of you enlightened colonialist motherfuckers,

2073
01:50:26.159 --> 01:50:29.119
<v Speaker 1>y'all are so worried about going and taking everyone else's

2074
01:50:29.159 --> 01:50:33.960
<v Speaker 1>shit that you missed the treasure trove literally outside of

2075
01:50:34.000 --> 01:50:42.159
<v Speaker 1>your shore. But okay, lost continents, lost knowledge, Yeah, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't hear you over the sound of your own

2077
01:50:44.079 --> 01:50:48.760
<v Speaker 1>fucking discovery. What So with that in mind, let's do

2078
01:50:48.800 --> 01:50:50.800
<v Speaker 1>a little Let's watch this little jim. I actually think

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty well put.

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<v Speaker 2>Together, y'are.

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<v Speaker 11>Today. It's densely populated, accommodating a population of more than

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<v Speaker 11>seven undred and forty three million. With so many people

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<v Speaker 11>on Earth's second smallest continent, nearly every square kilometer of

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01:51:06.199 --> 01:51:08.720
<v Speaker 11>land must be put to good use, with no exceptions.

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<v Speaker 11>But what if I told you there was a massive

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01:51:11.079 --> 01:51:14.000
<v Speaker 11>peace missing from it? You'd probably say, we have satellites,

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<v Speaker 11>so there's no way we could have missed that. But

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<v Speaker 11>it's true, And no, I'm not talking about some little

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01:51:18.239 --> 01:51:20.880
<v Speaker 11>island somewhere I'm talking about a land mass roughly the

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<v Speaker 11>size of Great Britain, which was once as densely populated

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01:51:23.840 --> 01:51:26.399
<v Speaker 11>as the rest of Europe, but that's now completely missing

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<v Speaker 11>from the map. Here's a picture of modern day Europe,

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01:51:29.720 --> 01:51:32.279
<v Speaker 11>and here's what it looked like roughly eight thousand years ago,

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01:51:32.439 --> 01:51:35.600
<v Speaker 11>minus the glaciers. You might notice the most change happens

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01:51:35.640 --> 01:51:38.199
<v Speaker 11>right here in the North Sea. Here it is again

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01:51:38.439 --> 01:51:42.079
<v Speaker 11>today and eight thousand years ago. Here's a closer map

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<v Speaker 11>with modern day borders drawna so you can really see

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<v Speaker 11>the difference.

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<v Speaker 1>I will mention this as well, if you look at

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01:51:49.560 --> 01:51:53.199
<v Speaker 1>how the story of the lock Mass monster came into being, right,

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01:51:53.239 --> 01:51:56.560
<v Speaker 1>how did a dinosaur get trapped in this lake? The

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01:51:56.560 --> 01:51:59.640
<v Speaker 1>theory is that once upon a time that was connected

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<v Speaker 1>to the ocean, and then when the waters are seated,

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01:52:03.199 --> 01:52:06.079
<v Speaker 1>it kind of was stuck there, and that's the legend

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01:52:06.159 --> 01:52:09.199
<v Speaker 1>behind it. But yes, this bit of science is also

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01:52:09.319 --> 01:52:12.279
<v Speaker 1>where other myths and legends and lore have spawned from.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you can see where they pull it from.

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<v Speaker 2>Then, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 11>You can see this area that was once from the

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<v Speaker 11>North Sea is now almost entirely land. This is called Doggerland,

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01:52:21.560 --> 01:52:23.840
<v Speaker 11>and all evidence indicates that it was once a fertile,

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<v Speaker 11>unpopulated lowland region. In fact, it has been predicted that

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01:52:27.520 --> 01:52:29.800
<v Speaker 11>doggo Land might have been the richest hunting area in

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<v Speaker 11>all of Europe during the Mesolithic period and could have

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01:52:32.279 --> 01:52:36.640
<v Speaker 11>attracted huge numbers of people to it. Many prehistoric tools, weapons,

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01:52:36.640 --> 01:52:38.880
<v Speaker 11>and even man made structures have been discovered in the

2117
01:52:38.960 --> 01:52:42.279
<v Speaker 11>lands beneath the water. Fishermen here have even discovered prehistoric

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01:52:42.279 --> 01:52:46.880
<v Speaker 11>skeletons of mamoths, rhinoceros and lions. Studying the contours of

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01:52:46.920 --> 01:52:49.359
<v Speaker 11>the ocean floor here also revealed many lake beds and

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01:52:49.439 --> 01:52:52.800
<v Speaker 11>river valleys. In fact, roughly ten thousand miles of river

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01:52:52.880 --> 01:52:55.640
<v Speaker 11>channels have been revealed through the use of seismic surveys.

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01:52:55.760 --> 01:52:58.600
<v Speaker 11>It was even found that several important rivers in Europe today,

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01:52:58.720 --> 01:53:03.359
<v Speaker 11>including the Thames, Rine, Zeene, Muse and Shelt, once all

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01:53:03.479 --> 01:53:06.079
<v Speaker 11>joined together to form a single impressive river which ran

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01:53:06.119 --> 01:53:08.880
<v Speaker 11>through where the English Channel is today. Okay, so by

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01:53:08.880 --> 01:53:12.039
<v Speaker 11>now you must be asking what happened to Doggerland, as

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01:53:12.079 --> 01:53:14.079
<v Speaker 11>many of you might have guessed caused Number one of

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01:53:14.119 --> 01:53:17.439
<v Speaker 11>the disappearance of Doggoland was glacial melt as the Last

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<v Speaker 11>Ice Age came to a close glaciers receded and all

2130
01:53:20.239 --> 01:53:22.560
<v Speaker 11>that water had to go somewhere, and sea levels rose

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01:53:22.560 --> 01:53:25.319
<v Speaker 11>by an estimated one hundred and twenty meters as a result,

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<v Speaker 11>But this wasn't enough to fully submerge dogger Land, and

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01:53:28.520 --> 01:53:30.760
<v Speaker 11>actually a fair amount of land still remained after the

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01:53:30.800 --> 01:53:33.479
<v Speaker 11>sea levels rose to where they are today. The second

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<v Speaker 11>cause is a process known as isostatic rebounding, which is

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01:53:36.479 --> 01:53:39.279
<v Speaker 11>exactly what it sounds like. Well what does it sound like,

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01:53:39.359 --> 01:53:42.039
<v Speaker 11>you might ask? In short, during the ice ages, the

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01:53:42.079 --> 01:53:44.600
<v Speaker 11>glaciers to the north of Doggerland weighed so much on

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01:53:44.640 --> 01:53:47.279
<v Speaker 11>the crust they actually pushed the crust down into the

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01:53:47.319 --> 01:53:50.119
<v Speaker 11>mantle and hoisted the surrounding areas further up like a

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01:53:50.159 --> 01:53:53.439
<v Speaker 11>sea saw, but on a massive scale. Once this ice

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01:53:53.479 --> 01:53:56.600
<v Speaker 11>started melting, this process began to reverse, and the elevation

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01:53:56.680 --> 01:53:59.640
<v Speaker 11>of all of dogger Land actually decreased, while the elevation

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01:53:59.720 --> 01:54:02.520
<v Speaker 11>of the area that had previously been under ice increased.

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<v Speaker 11>Until everything was back to normal, even greater portions of

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01:54:05.640 --> 01:54:08.159
<v Speaker 11>Doggerland were lost as this process took its toll on

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01:54:08.199 --> 01:54:12.359
<v Speaker 11>the land. This process of isostatic rebounding is still happening today,

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<v Speaker 11>mostly in Canada, Norway and Antarctica even thousands of years

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<v Speaker 11>after the ice ages ended and will likely continue for

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<v Speaker 11>a few thousand more years. But even after all this

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01:54:22.439 --> 01:54:25.560
<v Speaker 11>had occurred, an island approximately the size of Denmark remained

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01:54:25.600 --> 01:54:27.880
<v Speaker 11>in the North Sea. And this is what's now called

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01:54:27.920 --> 01:54:30.800
<v Speaker 11>Dogger Bank, a very shallow portion of the North Sea,

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01:54:31.039 --> 01:54:33.880
<v Speaker 11>and is where Doggoland got its name from. But that's

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01:54:33.880 --> 01:54:36.279
<v Speaker 11>no longer there either. So what happened to dog Or Bank?

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<v Speaker 11>This is where it starts getting speculative. Cause three, well,

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01:54:40.880 --> 01:54:43.760
<v Speaker 11>it's more of a recent hypothesis. It suggested that the

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<v Speaker 11>final event which caused the total submersion of Doggoland was

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<v Speaker 11>a mega tsunami, and yes, that's the technical term for it.

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<v Speaker 11>You see, just a couple thousand miles away off the

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01:54:52.640 --> 01:54:55.720
<v Speaker 11>coast of Norway around sixty two hundred PCE, there was

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01:54:55.760 --> 01:54:59.319
<v Speaker 11>a series of three massive underwater landslides collectively called the

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01:54:59.359 --> 01:55:03.359
<v Speaker 11>Stregus Land, most likely caused by an earthquake nearby. This

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01:55:03.439 --> 01:55:05.960
<v Speaker 11>event created one of the largest tsunamis known to man,

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<v Speaker 11>and sediments from this tsunami have been found all over

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01:55:08.439 --> 01:55:11.439
<v Speaker 11>the North Atlantic region. Fossils found in the sediment later

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01:55:11.560 --> 01:55:13.840
<v Speaker 11>created by this event roughly matched the time that doga

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<v Speaker 11>land became inundated with water. This is also thought to

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<v Speaker 11>have been the event which separated Great Britain from continental

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<v Speaker 11>Europe for good. But if it weren't for that random disaster,

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01:55:22.920 --> 01:55:25.479
<v Speaker 11>Europe could have possibly been home to another small region,

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01:55:25.600 --> 01:55:28.520
<v Speaker 11>or even a whole country. Now, if you're thinking this

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01:55:28.560 --> 01:55:30.720
<v Speaker 11>all sounds like the setup for a real world Atlantis,

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<v Speaker 11>You're not alone. It has been speculated that this land

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01:55:33.319 --> 01:55:35.840
<v Speaker 11>could have been the origin for such an idea. However,

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<v Speaker 11>for the most part, the influx of water would have

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<v Speaker 11>been gradual to the people living there and would have

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01:55:40.039 --> 01:55:42.760
<v Speaker 11>given them plenty of time to escape to the surrounding regions.

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<v Speaker 11>This also may explain why northwestern Europe was more densely

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01:55:45.880 --> 01:55:47.920
<v Speaker 11>populated than it should have been at this time, well

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01:55:47.960 --> 01:55:49.680
<v Speaker 11>except for those people who might have stuck it out

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<v Speaker 11>to the end, because I'll remind you there was a

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01:55:51.479 --> 01:55:54.720
<v Speaker 11>megasunami that washed away significant portions of land. What I'm

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<v Speaker 11>saying is, if you had to ask me where I

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01:55:56.399 --> 01:55:59.079
<v Speaker 11>thought the sunken city of Atlantis might be, I'd probably

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<v Speaker 11>say somewhere on Daggar Bank in the North Sea. So

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<v Speaker 11>the next thing you might be asking is what Doggerland

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01:56:04.159 --> 01:56:07.079
<v Speaker 11>would be like today if it still existed, and well,

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<v Speaker 11>first off, it probably wouldn't be called Doggerland, as it

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01:56:09.960 --> 01:56:12.199
<v Speaker 11>only got that name from Dogger Bank, which got its

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01:56:12.279 --> 01:56:14.680
<v Speaker 11>name from the old Dutch word for fishing boat, dogger,

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<v Speaker 11>which I'm probably mispronouncing dogger, dogger dozer, and I thought

2193
01:56:20.520 --> 01:56:22.760
<v Speaker 11>there'd be much cod fishing there if it was still land.

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<v Speaker 11>Trying to guess much more about the modern dogger Land

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01:56:25.720 --> 01:56:28.119
<v Speaker 11>is difficult, but I'll try anyway. I'm also going to

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<v Speaker 11>keep calling it dogger Land, even though I just pointed

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01:56:30.399 --> 01:56:32.920
<v Speaker 11>out that's not what it would be called. Probably, I'm

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01:56:32.960 --> 01:56:36.079
<v Speaker 11>just trying to keep things simple, Okay. So first, Doggerland

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01:56:36.079 --> 01:56:38.399
<v Speaker 11>would most likely be a very wealthy nation, as it

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01:56:38.439 --> 01:56:41.600
<v Speaker 11>lies over substantial oil and natural gas reserves that make

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01:56:41.640 --> 01:56:46.239
<v Speaker 11>surrounding countries billions of dollars annually. Ironically, however, Doggerland would

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01:56:46.279 --> 01:56:49.000
<v Speaker 11>likely also be a huge proponent of green and renewable

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01:56:49.119 --> 01:56:52.439
<v Speaker 11>energy due to its low lying geography and vulnerability to

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01:56:52.439 --> 01:56:56.239
<v Speaker 11>widespread flooding. Doggerland was also, as I mentioned before, predicted

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01:56:56.239 --> 01:56:58.399
<v Speaker 11>to be a fertile land with many rivers, and would

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01:56:58.399 --> 01:57:01.560
<v Speaker 11>most likely have served an intense egg cultural purpose the

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01:57:01.600 --> 01:57:04.199
<v Speaker 11>spot where several major European rivers met and float into

2208
01:57:04.239 --> 01:57:06.960
<v Speaker 11>the ocean would have likely been an extremely strategic spot

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<v Speaker 11>and likely would have become the home to a massive

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01:57:08.960 --> 01:57:12.479
<v Speaker 11>harbor and highly populated city. If Doggerland was a country

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01:57:12.520 --> 01:57:14.319
<v Speaker 11>of its own instead of belonging to one of the

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01:57:14.359 --> 01:57:17.279
<v Speaker 11>existing European nations, it would probably be a powerful nation

2213
01:57:17.439 --> 01:57:20.279
<v Speaker 11>comparable to the UK or Germany. But other than that,

2214
01:57:20.359 --> 01:57:22.880
<v Speaker 11>it's impossible to guess how this country would have impacted

2215
01:57:22.880 --> 01:57:24.960
<v Speaker 11>the history of Europe and the world as a whole.

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<v Speaker 11>Doggerland should remind us of the potential impacts of a

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01:57:28.000 --> 01:57:30.399
<v Speaker 11>changing climate and the dangers many of us will face

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01:57:30.439 --> 01:57:31.159
<v Speaker 11>as the sami.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes into the jargon, you can already hear him

2220
01:57:34.079 --> 01:57:38.079
<v Speaker 1>getting revved up for it. So, like he said, there

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01:57:38.159 --> 01:57:41.600
<v Speaker 1>was a theory that a tsunami hit Doggerland and wipe

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01:57:41.600 --> 01:57:44.239
<v Speaker 1>the rest of it out. Now again, the ice age

2223
01:57:44.319 --> 01:57:48.920
<v Speaker 1>ending the glaciers melting, I understand, is a static rebound.

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01:57:49.279 --> 01:57:52.319
<v Speaker 1>I also get that too, right, the actual amount of

2225
01:57:52.359 --> 01:57:56.840
<v Speaker 1>the massive tons of ice shifting and the massive tons

2226
01:57:56.880 --> 01:58:00.159
<v Speaker 1>of the plate tectonics shifting, there'd be a little and

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01:58:00.239 --> 01:58:02.439
<v Speaker 1>take on that to find some equilibrium I could understand

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01:58:02.439 --> 01:58:06.039
<v Speaker 1>this thought process. Okay, then they're saying that they have

2229
01:58:06.119 --> 01:58:10.199
<v Speaker 1>found sediments from the stegaslide or whatever all over the

2230
01:58:10.239 --> 01:58:13.000
<v Speaker 1>north sea, a tsunami wiping it away.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm not saying.

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01:58:14.520 --> 01:58:18.680
<v Speaker 1>That I believe that Atlantis is Doggerland, but that also

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01:58:18.760 --> 01:58:20.880
<v Speaker 1>lines up to a couple of stories. Does it not

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01:58:21.560 --> 01:58:26.479
<v Speaker 1>a very fertile, prosperous nation who was just set up

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01:58:27.000 --> 01:58:29.479
<v Speaker 1>just among themselves, just being a hub if you will,

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01:58:30.800 --> 01:58:33.800
<v Speaker 1>getting washed away under the ocean because of name or

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01:58:33.840 --> 01:58:37.840
<v Speaker 1>reason doesn't matter. Thousands and thousands and thousands of years

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01:58:37.880 --> 01:58:40.399
<v Speaker 1>before the first mention of something like that ever being

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01:58:40.880 --> 01:58:43.399
<v Speaker 1>heard of by a nine year old boy and then

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<v Speaker 1>written about before his death.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, sure, I mean it. It possibly could check out.

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01:58:49.640 --> 01:58:51.920
<v Speaker 3>Just because it's a sunken city doesn't necessarily mean it's

2243
01:58:51.960 --> 01:58:55.800
<v Speaker 3>Atlantis Orburia or Mew or any of these things. But

2244
01:58:56.560 --> 01:59:00.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, given the limited about, limited resource, and limited

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01:59:01.039 --> 01:59:03.880
<v Speaker 3>amount of knowledge that we have on what the hell

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01:59:03.960 --> 01:59:06.560
<v Speaker 3>is at the bottom of the ocean floor, you could

2247
01:59:07.520 --> 01:59:10.399
<v Speaker 3>it would suffice to say that you could postulate that

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01:59:10.439 --> 01:59:16.159
<v Speaker 3>this has the percentage of a chance of possibly being Atlantis.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would agree, I would agree, and again, your

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<v Speaker 1>boy Clement Reid, who first made this conversation a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's keep in mind that he was not a half

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01:59:24.880 --> 01:59:25.600
<v Speaker 2>stepper either.

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01:59:25.920 --> 01:59:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, he was an understood geologist and paleo bi botanist

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01:59:31.279 --> 01:59:36.720
<v Speaker 1>paleo botanist, so basically he knew botanist paleobotanists.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus, I don't know why I try to make that

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<v Speaker 2>sound more English. Well, I mean he's from lanist a

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01:59:42.479 --> 01:59:44.920
<v Speaker 2>paleobotanist botanist. I don't know.

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01:59:44.920 --> 01:59:47.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know which one sounds more posh, but either way,

2259
01:59:47.760 --> 01:59:50.239
<v Speaker 1>so your boy here was a solid guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's read about him.

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01:59:51.479 --> 01:59:54.800
<v Speaker 3>Reid was born in London in eighteen fifty three. His

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01:59:54.840 --> 01:59:58.760
<v Speaker 3>great uncle was Michael Faraday. His family circumstances meant he

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01:59:59.039 --> 02:00:01.880
<v Speaker 3>was largely self but he was nonetheless able to join

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<v Speaker 3>the Geological Survey of Great Britain in eighteen seventy four

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<v Speaker 3>and be employed in drawing up geological maps in various

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<v Speaker 3>parts of the country. In eighteen ninety four he was

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02:00:12.119 --> 02:00:17.119
<v Speaker 3>appointed geologist, and in nineteen oh one district geologists when

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<v Speaker 3>and then he retired in nineteen thirteen. He was particularly

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<v Speaker 3>concerned with the tertiary geological depolits, deposits and their paleontology,

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02:00:25.279 --> 02:00:30.520
<v Speaker 3>and his most renowned for the work he did on

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02:00:30.640 --> 02:00:38.079
<v Speaker 3>Quaternary and Mary Kuwait Mary quaternary and Pliocene deposits along

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02:00:38.119 --> 02:00:41.439
<v Speaker 3>with his wife Eleanor and Norfolk. He was awarded the

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<v Speaker 3>Muritian Fund in eighteen eighty six, won the Bigsby Medal

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<v Speaker 3>in eighteen ninety seven, was elected the Fellow of the

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<v Speaker 3>Geological Society in eighteen seventy five, and was the vice

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02:00:50.960 --> 02:00:53.840
<v Speaker 3>president of the Geological Society of London from nineteen thirteen

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02:00:53.880 --> 02:00:56.640
<v Speaker 3>to nineteen fourteen. And he was elected a Fellow of

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02:00:56.760 --> 02:00:59.680
<v Speaker 3>the Linnaean Society in eighteen eighty eight. That's another mention

2279
02:00:59.760 --> 02:01:01.039
<v Speaker 3>of that Lennadian society.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, indeed, sir, which is why when this was

2281
02:01:03.800 --> 02:01:05.800
<v Speaker 1>proposed a lot of people were listening.

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02:01:06.319 --> 02:01:08.319
<v Speaker 2>A lot of theories are going out at this time.

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02:01:08.600 --> 02:01:10.680
<v Speaker 1>And like he was also elected a Fellow of the

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02:01:10.760 --> 02:01:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Royal Society. And we I mean, we could read his

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02:01:14.000 --> 02:01:16.439
<v Speaker 1>whole citation, but there's no real need for any of that.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's pretty much all the mention of this now

2287
02:01:20.119 --> 02:01:22.439
<v Speaker 1>thing called Doggerland. Let's go ahead and let's go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and read that. Because his wiki page is one scroll long.

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<v Speaker 3>It says from eighteen ninety nine to nineteen oh nine,

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<v Speaker 3>read undertook the analysis of archaeo botanical remains of the

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<v Speaker 3>Roman town of Silchester. In nineteen thirteen he published his

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<v Speaker 3>book called Submerged Forest, Oh that sounds awesome, in which

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<v Speaker 3>he postulated a drowned land bridge between eastern England and

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02:01:47.119 --> 02:01:51.000
<v Speaker 3>European Mainland. His conceptual map of what is now called

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<v Speaker 3>Doggerland turned out to be remarkably close to the current

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<v Speaker 3>known reality. Then he died in Milford on Seed, Hampshire, Hampshire. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>in nineteen sixteen, and YadA YadA, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Married and all these things. But my point is he

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<v Speaker 2>was not a half stepper. He was not a kook.

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<v Speaker 2>He was not a quack.

2301
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<v Speaker 1>He was not an author who wrote books just for

2302
02:02:12.840 --> 02:02:14.439
<v Speaker 1>the sake of selling things.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. This was not this guy.

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02:02:16.640 --> 02:02:19.840
<v Speaker 1>He was a professional and he was set about to

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<v Speaker 1>do certain studies which led him to the first proposed

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<v Speaker 1>idea of Doggerland. We now have discovered because of this

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02:02:27.920 --> 02:02:32.399
<v Speaker 1>bone harpoon, which now we will discuss like it's all real.

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<v Speaker 1>There really is a lost continent, there really was a

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<v Speaker 1>lost man land mass. Humans really lived here. They had settlements,

2310
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<v Speaker 1>they had buildings. They thought that they were neolithic. But

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<v Speaker 1>we are still discovering more things as time goes on.

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<v Speaker 1>And the crazy thing about it is because of the

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<v Speaker 1>peat it's all been preserved almost perfectly. It's insane.

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<v Speaker 3>Bro, I gotta say, this guy is giving off really

2315
02:02:57.920 --> 02:03:01.960
<v Speaker 3>nineteen nineties fanny pack gay vibes whenever he's holding up

2316
02:03:02.000 --> 02:03:04.479
<v Speaker 3>his cat in his video. It's like, of course you

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02:03:04.520 --> 02:03:06.800
<v Speaker 3>believe in fucking global warming, you puss.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'll say that about him, like I like his

2319
02:03:09.600 --> 02:03:12.319
<v Speaker 1>content because a lot of it is scientific and historic based.

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<v Speaker 1>He did do a three part series where he's shit

2321
02:03:15.279 --> 02:03:18.359
<v Speaker 1>all over Philip Zeba, who is the dude from TikTok

2322
02:03:18.399 --> 02:03:21.520
<v Speaker 1>who's like the dude's talking about Google debunkers all the time,

2323
02:03:21.520 --> 02:03:23.520
<v Speaker 1>and he brings up these quick clips where he doesn't

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02:03:23.520 --> 02:03:26.079
<v Speaker 1>really do much research. He and Milo have a current

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02:03:26.119 --> 02:03:29.520
<v Speaker 1>standing feud going on and they're currently waiting on a

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<v Speaker 1>response from the other.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually pretty ertaining to one.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, I actually retract my statement because I

2329
02:03:34.079 --> 02:03:36.560
<v Speaker 3>believe he's a gay man. He kind of gives off

2330
02:03:36.560 --> 02:03:37.239
<v Speaker 3>the gay vibes.

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02:03:38.000 --> 02:03:40.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm not one hundred percent It makes sense if he

2332
02:03:40.840 --> 02:03:44.239
<v Speaker 2>was in a judgmental way.

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<v Speaker 1>But I actually watch his content, so like I'm I

2334
02:03:48.159 --> 02:03:51.000
<v Speaker 1>will say that it wouldn't shock me if he was gay,

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02:03:51.039 --> 02:03:55.199
<v Speaker 1>but that also plays no part in my thought on

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02:03:55.319 --> 02:03:57.000
<v Speaker 1>his historical breakdown of court.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, I'm just making fun.

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02:03:59.199 --> 02:04:02.800
<v Speaker 2>But that's to your point, Yeah, privately see it?

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02:04:03.399 --> 02:04:05.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, So let's see he's got to say

2340
02:04:05.479 --> 02:04:06.800
<v Speaker 1>about this harpoon.

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02:04:06.920 --> 02:04:08.319
<v Speaker 4>That was recovered from the Kolinda.

2342
02:04:08.399 --> 02:04:10.920
<v Speaker 12>Is widely regarded as the first artifact to actually be

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02:04:11.000 --> 02:04:12.359
<v Speaker 12>discovered in Doggerland.

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02:04:12.479 --> 02:04:13.720
<v Speaker 4>Because the entire thing is.

2345
02:04:13.720 --> 02:04:16.479
<v Speaker 12>Underwater, it's kind of hard to recover artifacts from it,

2346
02:04:16.520 --> 02:04:18.479
<v Speaker 12>be that as it made. This was a pivotal discovery

2347
02:04:18.479 --> 02:04:21.680
<v Speaker 12>in driving science to learn more about Doggerland. The fishermen

2348
02:04:21.720 --> 02:04:23.840
<v Speaker 12>who discovered it brought it to the British Museum. Some

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02:04:23.840 --> 02:04:25.479
<v Speaker 12>could even argue that it is one of the few

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02:04:25.560 --> 02:04:28.279
<v Speaker 12>artifacts that actually rightfully belongs in the British Museum. The

2351
02:04:28.359 --> 02:04:30.800
<v Speaker 12>archaeologist who analyzed this artifact found that it was not

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02:04:30.840 --> 02:04:33.399
<v Speaker 12>made of bone but the antler of a red deer,

2353
02:04:33.520 --> 02:04:36.560
<v Speaker 12>and they initially dated the artifact to the Mesolithic period

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02:04:36.680 --> 02:04:37.479
<v Speaker 12>about five.

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02:04:37.520 --> 02:04:40.439
<v Speaker 1>You see that, So that's the red deer that you've

2356
02:04:40.479 --> 02:04:43.119
<v Speaker 1>seen on a lot of imagery of England and Royalty

2357
02:04:43.159 --> 02:04:46.439
<v Speaker 1>and all these things. That harpoon was carved from the

2358
02:04:46.479 --> 02:04:48.039
<v Speaker 1>antler of a red stag.

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02:04:49.000 --> 02:04:51.640
<v Speaker 3>It's pretty badass. What is a harpoon anyway?

2360
02:04:52.960 --> 02:04:55.039
<v Speaker 2>Like a spear but for more like fishing?

2361
02:04:55.560 --> 02:04:58.079
<v Speaker 3>Okay, fishing spear or I guess.

2362
02:04:57.880 --> 02:05:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Like if you want to get technical, it's a specific

2363
02:05:00.279 --> 02:05:03.640
<v Speaker 1>type of like gang. I mean, you can harpoon for frogs,

2364
02:05:04.039 --> 02:05:06.560
<v Speaker 1>but I guess the other No, that's more of a gig. Yeah,

2365
02:05:06.680 --> 02:05:09.119
<v Speaker 1>harpoon is I was assumed shrectly for fishing.

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02:05:09.439 --> 02:05:11.000
<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, pretty cool.

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02:05:12.159 --> 02:05:14.840
<v Speaker 12>Up to fifteen thousand years ago, the archaeologists were really

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02:05:14.840 --> 02:05:17.560
<v Speaker 12>confused by this discovery. After all, this harpoon had been

2369
02:05:17.560 --> 02:05:20.199
<v Speaker 12>found about fifty miles off the Norfolk coast at a

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02:05:20.239 --> 02:05:22.960
<v Speaker 12>depth of what was it, one hundred and twenty feet? Okay,

2371
02:05:22.960 --> 02:05:24.760
<v Speaker 12>you can go back, schminky. I just wanted to hold

2372
02:05:24.760 --> 02:05:27.119
<v Speaker 12>you for a minute. You're very sweet, Yeah, yere, you

2373
02:05:27.159 --> 02:05:28.039
<v Speaker 12>go be small.

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<v Speaker 2>To your point, I could see.

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<v Speaker 3>It, dude, you name your catch schmenky. Come on.

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02:05:34.720 --> 02:05:36.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that was sarcastically done, but again,

2377
02:05:36.880 --> 02:05:38.600
<v Speaker 1>to your point, I could see it.

2378
02:05:38.800 --> 02:05:44.319
<v Speaker 3>He's rocking the mustache too, which just gotta say it's

2379
02:05:44.359 --> 02:05:46.439
<v Speaker 3>given off those vibes. Nothing wrong with that.

2380
02:05:47.159 --> 02:05:48.880
<v Speaker 1>He's done a goats ea before and all of that.

2381
02:05:48.920 --> 02:05:50.720
<v Speaker 1>But he's still got that baby face going on. He

2382
02:05:50.720 --> 02:05:53.119
<v Speaker 1>can't grow a beard yet. He's growing up. He's a

2383
02:05:53.119 --> 02:05:53.720
<v Speaker 1>growing lad.

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02:05:54.279 --> 02:05:54.880
<v Speaker 3>Good for him.

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02:05:55.520 --> 02:05:55.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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02:05:55.960 --> 02:05:59.439
<v Speaker 12>Anyway, this time it wasn't believed that Mesolithic people would

2387
02:05:59.520 --> 02:06:01.000
<v Speaker 12>make it far out to sea.

2388
02:06:01.159 --> 02:06:01.720
<v Speaker 4>Instead, most of.

2389
02:06:01.720 --> 02:06:04.279
<v Speaker 12>The interaction between Mesolithic hunter gatherers and the ocean would

2390
02:06:04.279 --> 02:06:06.560
<v Speaker 12>have been sticking along the coastlines. To learn more about this,

2391
02:06:06.600 --> 02:06:09.279
<v Speaker 12>an expedition was sent to where the harpoon had been discovered.

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02:06:09.439 --> 02:06:11.760
<v Speaker 12>Just a year after the discovery, in nineteen thirty two,

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02:06:11.880 --> 02:06:14.199
<v Speaker 12>more samples were dredged up from the same site. What

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02:06:14.239 --> 02:06:16.279
<v Speaker 12>they found was, as you won't be surprised, a bunch

2395
02:06:16.279 --> 02:06:18.279
<v Speaker 12>of peat. Now, the people of the British Isles would

2396
02:06:18.279 --> 02:06:21.960
<v Speaker 12>have been very, very familiar with pete. It is a dense, black,

2397
02:06:22.039 --> 02:06:25.039
<v Speaker 12>carbon rich material that is made as plant matter dies

2398
02:06:25.079 --> 02:06:26.920
<v Speaker 12>and is deposited in a wet environment.

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02:06:26.640 --> 02:06:28.159
<v Speaker 4>And just stacks up year after year.

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<v Speaker 12>It is where bog bodies come from, and it was

2401
02:06:30.600 --> 02:06:32.079
<v Speaker 12>used to heat a lot of the homes in the

2402
02:06:32.079 --> 02:06:36.199
<v Speaker 12>British isles because they cut down all their trees. Skill issue,

2403
02:06:37.000 --> 02:06:40.479
<v Speaker 12>rapanui moment, cutting down all your trees. The weird thing

2404
02:06:40.520 --> 02:06:42.960
<v Speaker 12>about the peat that was discovered near the Kolinda harpoon

2405
02:06:43.079 --> 02:06:45.359
<v Speaker 12>site was that it showed evidence of being formed in

2406
02:06:45.479 --> 02:06:48.399
<v Speaker 12>fresh water. After thorough research, the scientists were able to

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02:06:48.439 --> 02:06:51.159
<v Speaker 12>conclude that the water above the peat now was a

2408
02:06:51.199 --> 02:06:54.039
<v Speaker 12>salty ocean, which is a little odd, but this did

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02:06:54.079 --> 02:06:56.840
<v Speaker 12>explain something about the harpoon. It means that it was

2410
02:06:56.920 --> 02:07:00.199
<v Speaker 12>likely not lost at sea, but lost on land or

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02:07:00.199 --> 02:07:01.000
<v Speaker 12>at least in near land.

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02:07:01.000 --> 02:07:03.079
<v Speaker 4>Okay, look, you know what I'm talking about here, come on.

2413
02:07:03.199 --> 02:07:05.840
<v Speaker 12>But this added a surge of interest into the theorized

2414
02:07:05.920 --> 02:07:07.840
<v Speaker 12>land mass beneath the North Sea, and it led to

2415
02:07:07.920 --> 02:07:10.159
<v Speaker 12>a flurry of research over the next one hundred years

2416
02:07:10.199 --> 02:07:12.239
<v Speaker 12>aimed at proving doggerland.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so real quick, what are your thoughts at this time?

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty interesting. I'm just I don't know, like I

2419
02:07:24.319 --> 02:07:26.560
<v Speaker 3>think that I want to believe it so much that

2420
02:07:26.600 --> 02:07:28.760
<v Speaker 3>there are lost lands, you know, like.

2421
02:07:29.079 --> 02:07:33.680
<v Speaker 1>I love those movies like this absolutely proves that there are, dude.

2422
02:07:33.720 --> 02:07:37.199
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah yeah. But as far as advanced civilization kind

2423
02:07:37.239 --> 02:07:40.119
<v Speaker 3>of lost land, that's I mean, not to say that

2424
02:07:39.880 --> 02:07:43.039
<v Speaker 3>that that isn't possible, but like, just because you find

2425
02:07:43.079 --> 02:07:45.520
<v Speaker 3>a fucking fishing spearit doesn't necessarily mean that we're talking

2426
02:07:45.560 --> 02:07:47.239
<v Speaker 3>about advanced technology.

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02:07:47.800 --> 02:07:50.319
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, not necessarily. But that led to people

2428
02:07:50.359 --> 02:07:53.439
<v Speaker 1>starting to dredge. That led to people starting to look

2429
02:07:53.560 --> 02:07:56.159
<v Speaker 1>under the water because nobody had thought to look there

2430
02:07:56.159 --> 02:08:00.000
<v Speaker 1>this entire time. This one guy, this geologist, had said

2431
02:08:00.039 --> 02:08:02.600
<v Speaker 1>that there was probably a lambridge that connected things. People

2432
02:08:02.600 --> 02:08:06.279
<v Speaker 1>didn't really look into it. Finally they find a it

2433
02:08:06.319 --> 02:08:08.239
<v Speaker 1>could have been any artifact. They had already pulled up

2434
02:08:08.279 --> 02:08:10.760
<v Speaker 1>animal bones that they couldn't identify before, and nobody gave

2435
02:08:10.800 --> 02:08:11.159
<v Speaker 1>a fuck.

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02:08:11.600 --> 02:08:12.960
<v Speaker 2>But now they pulled.

2437
02:08:12.800 --> 02:08:17.319
<v Speaker 1>Up a harpoon speared point that predates you say, twelve

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02:08:17.399 --> 02:08:18.199
<v Speaker 1>thousand BC.

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02:08:19.239 --> 02:08:21.720
<v Speaker 2>Yes, now you have people's attention, bro.

2440
02:08:21.760 --> 02:08:25.039
<v Speaker 1>And again they thought maybe it was lost at sea, right,

2441
02:08:25.079 --> 02:08:27.880
<v Speaker 1>maybe it was a dew was fishing in a boat,

2442
02:08:28.119 --> 02:08:31.720
<v Speaker 1>spearfishing for whatever, and he lost his harpoon. But they

2443
02:08:31.760 --> 02:08:35.279
<v Speaker 1>found that it was created in fresh water, meaning that

2444
02:08:35.359 --> 02:08:38.239
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't lost at sea. It was lost on dry land.

2445
02:08:38.560 --> 02:08:41.159
<v Speaker 1>It was formed in a river bed, which meant that

2446
02:08:41.399 --> 02:08:43.960
<v Speaker 1>they were standing in what was once land where they

2447
02:08:44.039 --> 02:08:47.279
<v Speaker 1>never actually thought there was before except for that one guy.

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02:08:48.319 --> 02:08:52.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that is pretty awesome. I guess whenever you

2449
02:08:52.119 --> 02:08:56.079
<v Speaker 3>start talking about thousands and thousands of years ago, it's like, yeah,

2450
02:08:56.119 --> 02:08:58.640
<v Speaker 3>how do you know something could be twelve thousand years old?

2451
02:08:58.720 --> 02:09:00.800
<v Speaker 3>I know, they bring up like carbon d and shit

2452
02:09:00.920 --> 02:09:02.760
<v Speaker 3>like that. That's how they're dating a lot of this stuff.

2453
02:09:02.760 --> 02:09:05.840
<v Speaker 3>But in my opinion, it's like that carbon dating, it's

2454
02:09:05.880 --> 02:09:10.039
<v Speaker 3>it's not always right. It's more of a guesstimate sometimes,

2455
02:09:10.079 --> 02:09:12.000
<v Speaker 3>like it could be so far off, it could be

2456
02:09:12.079 --> 02:09:14.319
<v Speaker 3>thousands of years off. We could be looking at something,

2457
02:09:14.840 --> 02:09:17.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, that is allegedly, according to the carbon dating,

2458
02:09:18.119 --> 02:09:21.239
<v Speaker 3>ten thousand years old, but then you actually, you know,

2459
02:09:21.359 --> 02:09:23.600
<v Speaker 3>you can actually find that it's probably only fifty years old,

2460
02:09:23.640 --> 02:09:26.319
<v Speaker 3>and shit like that happens all the time. And so

2461
02:09:26.840 --> 02:09:28.800
<v Speaker 3>in my opinion, whenever you're saying that something is twelve

2462
02:09:28.840 --> 02:09:31.359
<v Speaker 3>thousand years old and you're not using carbon dating, you

2463
02:09:31.399 --> 02:09:34.199
<v Speaker 3>would have to then just use something else that is

2464
02:09:34.279 --> 02:09:36.680
<v Speaker 3>also twelve thousand years old, which I don't know how

2465
02:09:36.720 --> 02:09:38.359
<v Speaker 3>many of those artifacts are around, if any.

2466
02:09:39.000 --> 02:09:41.800
<v Speaker 1>So they did carbon dating on it, and you're right

2467
02:09:41.920 --> 02:09:44.720
<v Speaker 1>about the fact that that is a very flawed system

2468
02:09:44.840 --> 02:09:50.000
<v Speaker 1>unless you know the whereabouts of the artifact the entire time, right,

2469
02:09:50.239 --> 02:09:51.000
<v Speaker 1>was it kept?

2470
02:09:51.159 --> 02:09:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Was it preserved?

2471
02:09:52.479 --> 02:09:56.279
<v Speaker 1>This harpoon was embedded in peat, and you can formulate

2472
02:09:56.640 --> 02:09:58.960
<v Speaker 1>how deep and when that peat was formed based off

2473
02:09:59.000 --> 02:10:00.920
<v Speaker 1>of the other carbon matter, and you can trail you

2474
02:10:01.000 --> 02:10:01.319
<v Speaker 1>all the way.

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02:10:01.359 --> 02:10:02.199
<v Speaker 2>Do you know what pete is?

2476
02:10:03.000 --> 02:10:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, So pete is if anybody who doesn't know,

2477
02:10:08.159 --> 02:10:11.720
<v Speaker 1>essentially it is mud, but it's flammable mud. Think of

2478
02:10:11.800 --> 02:10:15.640
<v Speaker 1>mud that is so rich in dead, organic, decomposed matter

2479
02:10:15.680 --> 02:10:18.000
<v Speaker 1>that you can actually use it as coal. And as

2480
02:10:18.000 --> 02:10:19.199
<v Speaker 1>a matter of fact, a lot of people in the

2481
02:10:19.199 --> 02:10:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Scottish Highlands and in northern Europe have used pete.

2482
02:10:22.159 --> 02:10:26.000
<v Speaker 2>They would go to pete bogs literally a swamp, a bog.

2483
02:10:26.399 --> 02:10:29.960
<v Speaker 1>They would cut out one foot by one foot chunks deep,

2484
02:10:30.119 --> 02:10:32.920
<v Speaker 1>like three feet deep. The stuff at the bottom was

2485
02:10:33.039 --> 02:10:36.359
<v Speaker 1>very flammable, now not like exploding flammable, but slow smoldering.

2486
02:10:36.399 --> 02:10:37.920
<v Speaker 1>You could cook on it, you could heat your homes

2487
02:10:37.920 --> 02:10:39.960
<v Speaker 1>on it, all the things that coal would do. And

2488
02:10:40.000 --> 02:10:43.119
<v Speaker 1>they had it literally in the mud. So now we

2489
02:10:43.279 --> 02:10:48.159
<v Speaker 1>know that underneath this water isn't just whatever, it's peat. Okay,

2490
02:10:48.199 --> 02:10:51.359
<v Speaker 1>so we know guaranteed what year and how deep and

2491
02:10:51.399 --> 02:10:53.399
<v Speaker 1>all these things. So when they dredged it up, that

2492
02:10:53.520 --> 02:10:55.960
<v Speaker 1>came up with some organic matter and they were able

2493
02:10:56.000 --> 02:10:58.640
<v Speaker 1>to test that as well. So when they said twelve thousand,

2494
02:10:58.960 --> 02:11:01.199
<v Speaker 1>they actually kind of said with a little more authority

2495
02:11:01.239 --> 02:11:02.119
<v Speaker 1>than just a finding.

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02:11:02.359 --> 02:11:06.600
<v Speaker 3>So do they are they saying that basically that the

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<v Speaker 3>peat would preserve whatever item is held within it?

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02:11:10.760 --> 02:11:13.279
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? Okay, it encapsulated it.

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02:11:13.560 --> 02:11:14.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's pretty neat.

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02:11:14.640 --> 02:11:18.800
<v Speaker 1>And then it encapsulated it underwater, so it's like it

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02:11:18.840 --> 02:11:22.560
<v Speaker 1>was air sealed and water sealed. So it was like

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02:11:22.800 --> 02:11:25.560
<v Speaker 1>they it was kind of beyond dispute at this point now.

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02:11:25.600 --> 02:11:27.800
<v Speaker 1>And to your point, that doesn't mean they didn't have

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02:11:27.880 --> 02:11:29.319
<v Speaker 1>advanced technology.

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02:11:29.399 --> 02:11:30.640
<v Speaker 2>This is a artifact.

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02:11:31.039 --> 02:11:33.600
<v Speaker 1>This is one thing, you know what I mean, Doggerland

2507
02:11:33.640 --> 02:11:37.520
<v Speaker 1>existed for thousands of beers after this harpoon was made.

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02:11:37.680 --> 02:11:40.199
<v Speaker 1>There's the argument to say that it didn't stop being

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02:11:40.199 --> 02:11:41.640
<v Speaker 1>a thing until six thousand BC.

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02:11:42.640 --> 02:11:44.520
<v Speaker 3>Right. It's like if they went into the future and

2511
02:11:44.520 --> 02:11:47.520
<v Speaker 3>they were dredging up some old like I don't know,

2512
02:11:47.680 --> 02:11:51.119
<v Speaker 3>cold steel dildos back in the day like that we

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02:11:51.239 --> 02:11:54.039
<v Speaker 3>have now, they'd be like they worshiped the Great Steel

2514
02:11:54.560 --> 02:11:56.680
<v Speaker 3>Phallis or something along those lines.

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02:11:56.720 --> 02:11:56.880
<v Speaker 4>You know.

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02:11:57.520 --> 02:11:58.920
<v Speaker 2>Think of it like that, dude, if we were to

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02:11:58.920 --> 02:11:59.600
<v Speaker 2>find it right now.

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02:11:59.680 --> 02:12:03.079
<v Speaker 1>So from the time Doggerland was wiped off the face

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02:12:03.079 --> 02:12:07.720
<v Speaker 1>of the earth six thousand BC allegedly right and twelve

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02:12:07.800 --> 02:12:12.319
<v Speaker 1>thousand BC when this was made, six thousand year gap, dude,

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02:12:12.800 --> 02:12:16.279
<v Speaker 1>that is the same gap between Plato and us.

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02:12:18.079 --> 02:12:20.000
<v Speaker 2>You see what I'm like, It's wild.

2523
02:12:20.039 --> 02:12:22.079
<v Speaker 1>We're talking about if we were to find an artifact

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02:12:22.119 --> 02:12:24.840
<v Speaker 1>that far removed from us right now, we're talking two

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02:12:24.920 --> 02:12:29.199
<v Speaker 1>thousand or four thousand BC. So, like this harpoon doesn't

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02:12:29.239 --> 02:12:32.479
<v Speaker 1>mean that's the only life and only technology and only things.

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02:12:32.520 --> 02:12:36.079
<v Speaker 1>This is just a finding that led to more research

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02:12:36.159 --> 02:12:39.359
<v Speaker 1>being done in the area that has uncovered more things.

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02:12:39.680 --> 02:12:42.079
<v Speaker 3>I no longer want to Viking send off. Just pack

2530
02:12:42.159 --> 02:12:43.079
<v Speaker 3>me and Pete baby.

2531
02:12:44.239 --> 02:12:46.479
<v Speaker 2>I like it. And you saw that Pete bodies.

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02:12:46.800 --> 02:12:49.439
<v Speaker 1>This is a real life mummification that has been happening

2533
02:12:49.439 --> 02:12:52.119
<v Speaker 1>for forever from people that get lost in these bog

2534
02:12:52.159 --> 02:12:55.560
<v Speaker 1>pits and they just get covered up and perfectly preserved.

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02:12:55.640 --> 02:12:57.520
<v Speaker 2>It's insane, dude.

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02:12:57.600 --> 02:12:58.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's pretty rad, dude.

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02:12:58.840 --> 02:13:01.039
<v Speaker 2>I like it, all right, let's keep listen to you.

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02:13:01.159 --> 02:13:05.000
<v Speaker 12>Gat Rio remained under researched by geologists and archaeologists for

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02:13:05.079 --> 02:13:07.560
<v Speaker 12>quite a while. For both fields, it was really hard

2540
02:13:07.600 --> 02:13:10.560
<v Speaker 12>to access, geologists didn't really deem it old enough to

2541
02:13:10.640 --> 02:13:13.680
<v Speaker 12>be something worth their while, and for archaeologists, the context

2542
02:13:13.800 --> 02:13:15.920
<v Speaker 12>was so destroyed that they thought their efforts would be

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02:13:15.920 --> 02:13:18.640
<v Speaker 12>best spent elsewhere. So it wouldn't be until twenty ten

2544
02:13:18.680 --> 02:13:21.960
<v Speaker 12>that some of the largest efforts in actually understanding Doggerland

2545
02:13:22.000 --> 02:13:24.439
<v Speaker 12>would have been undertaken. A large piece of this research

2546
02:13:24.520 --> 02:13:27.239
<v Speaker 12>was done by an archaeologist by the name of Vincent Gaffney.

2547
02:13:27.359 --> 02:13:30.000
<v Speaker 12>He wanted to create a map of Doggerland, but short

2548
02:13:30.000 --> 02:13:32.359
<v Speaker 12>of him surveying the entire North Sea by himself, he

2549
02:13:32.399 --> 02:13:34.720
<v Speaker 12>decided to take a little bit more of a strategic route.

2550
02:13:34.720 --> 02:13:37.199
<v Speaker 12>He worked with oil, natural gas, and wind companies who

2551
02:13:37.199 --> 02:13:39.840
<v Speaker 12>had already surveyed the ocean floor and used their data,

2552
02:13:39.920 --> 02:13:42.640
<v Speaker 12>and with the addition of sediment cores gathered in twenty nineteen,

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02:13:42.760 --> 02:13:45.399
<v Speaker 12>Gaffney and his team were able to prove that Doggerland

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02:13:45.439 --> 02:13:46.279
<v Speaker 12>had in fact.

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02:13:46.520 --> 02:13:47.319
<v Speaker 4>Been above water.

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02:13:47.560 --> 02:13:49.640
<v Speaker 12>From all of this data he had gathered, Gaffney was

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02:13:49.680 --> 02:13:53.279
<v Speaker 12>able to complete what his predecessor, Clement had started more

2558
02:13:53.279 --> 02:13:55.880
<v Speaker 12>than one hundred years before, completing one of the first

2559
02:13:56.039 --> 02:13:59.680
<v Speaker 12>real maps of Doggerland, and from here archaeologists were able

2560
02:13:59.720 --> 02:14:03.279
<v Speaker 12>to have the first concrete look at what Doggerland was.

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02:14:03.720 --> 02:14:06.319
<v Speaker 2>Bro that's wild.

2562
02:14:07.000 --> 02:14:09.600
<v Speaker 1>So he did he decided, Look, I'm not gonna go

2563
02:14:09.640 --> 02:14:11.800
<v Speaker 1>off and use funding that I don't need to use.

2564
02:14:12.119 --> 02:14:14.600
<v Speaker 1>What I'm gonna do is get with oil natural gas

2565
02:14:14.600 --> 02:14:17.359
<v Speaker 1>companies who have already surveyed this land, and I'm just

2566
02:14:17.399 --> 02:14:19.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna go off of what they believe. They've already done

2567
02:14:19.840 --> 02:14:24.359
<v Speaker 1>the research. They did core sampling in twenty nineteen to

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02:14:24.600 --> 02:14:28.079
<v Speaker 1>verify the dates of when this was on solid or

2569
02:14:28.399 --> 02:14:31.000
<v Speaker 1>above sea level, if you will, and so now they

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02:14:31.079 --> 02:14:32.520
<v Speaker 1>actually can tell what it was.

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02:14:32.600 --> 02:14:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Dude, your thoughts.

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02:14:34.279 --> 02:14:37.800
<v Speaker 3>I love it. I hope they keep on discovering whatever

2573
02:14:37.840 --> 02:14:39.760
<v Speaker 3>it is that they're discovering, whatever it is that they're

2574
02:14:39.840 --> 02:14:42.720
<v Speaker 3>dredging up. Hopefully they can find like more tools and

2575
02:14:42.760 --> 02:14:46.680
<v Speaker 3>maybe more possible bodies, more animal bones. I love this

2576
02:14:46.800 --> 02:14:49.920
<v Speaker 3>kind of stuff, Like just discovering this seems like it

2577
02:14:49.960 --> 02:14:51.119
<v Speaker 3>seems like a treasure trove.

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02:14:51.279 --> 02:14:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Really, I couldn't agree more. And so one more time,

2579
02:14:55.640 --> 02:14:58.800
<v Speaker 1>listen to our dude, Milo here with the minute, minute man,

2580
02:14:59.000 --> 02:15:00.960
<v Speaker 1>many minute man, excuse.

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02:15:00.600 --> 02:15:04.600
<v Speaker 12>Me, nineteen thousand square mile piece of submerged continental shelf

2582
02:15:04.680 --> 02:15:07.760
<v Speaker 12>in the North Sea during the last glacial period between

2583
02:15:07.800 --> 02:15:10.479
<v Speaker 12>about one hundred and twenty and twenty thousand years ago,

2584
02:15:10.600 --> 02:15:12.800
<v Speaker 12>much of the Earth's water would have been locked up

2585
02:15:12.840 --> 02:15:15.760
<v Speaker 12>in massive continental ice sheets. As a result, there was

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02:15:15.840 --> 02:15:17.960
<v Speaker 12>less water in the oceans, and so the ocean levels

2587
02:15:18.000 --> 02:15:21.239
<v Speaker 12>were a lot shallower, as much as four hundred feet shallower.

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02:15:21.319 --> 02:15:24.319
<v Speaker 12>This means that for much of recent geologic history, Doggerland

2589
02:15:24.319 --> 02:15:26.479
<v Speaker 12>would have actually been above water, and it would have

2590
02:15:26.479 --> 02:15:29.000
<v Speaker 12>created a lowland that bridged the gap between the British

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02:15:29.079 --> 02:15:31.560
<v Speaker 12>Isles and continental Europe. This also means that if you

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02:15:31.560 --> 02:15:33.880
<v Speaker 12>were standing in what's now continental Europe and looking at

2593
02:15:33.880 --> 02:15:35.960
<v Speaker 12>the British Isles, they wouldn't have been isles. They would

2594
02:15:36.000 --> 02:15:38.520
<v Speaker 12>have been a distant mountain range. While this map kind

2595
02:15:38.520 --> 02:15:40.399
<v Speaker 12>of seems alien to us, it would have been the

2596
02:15:40.399 --> 02:15:43.239
<v Speaker 12>map of Europe that most of our human ancestors would

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02:15:43.239 --> 02:15:44.079
<v Speaker 12>have been familiar with.

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02:15:44.199 --> 02:15:48.600
<v Speaker 1>So okay, So, like I said earlier, if Doggerland is

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02:15:48.920 --> 02:15:51.159
<v Speaker 1>to be real, which we now know that it is,

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02:15:52.159 --> 02:15:54.960
<v Speaker 1>this wouldn't have been the British Isles. That would have

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02:15:54.960 --> 02:15:58.079
<v Speaker 1>been a distant mountain range on the other end of

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02:15:58.119 --> 02:15:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the Doggerland Valley.

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02:16:00.079 --> 02:16:02.520
<v Speaker 2>You see what I'm saying, Okay, And.

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02:16:02.560 --> 02:16:06.039
<v Speaker 1>It's very possible that this was from all the records

2605
02:16:06.039 --> 02:16:09.079
<v Speaker 1>that we can show a very fertile land, very agricultural land,

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02:16:09.239 --> 02:16:13.279
<v Speaker 1>very a good trade hub between I mean especially along

2607
02:16:13.319 --> 02:16:16.840
<v Speaker 1>the coastline. Human civilization has always existed around water, whether

2608
02:16:16.840 --> 02:16:19.880
<v Speaker 1>that's ocean or rivers, that's how it works. So this

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02:16:20.039 --> 02:16:23.960
<v Speaker 1>just shows that they would have had a thriving, industrious civilization.

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02:16:24.479 --> 02:16:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Are you with me at this point?

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02:16:25.760 --> 02:16:26.640
<v Speaker 3>I am with you, sir.

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02:16:27.439 --> 02:16:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So history with Kaylee.

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02:16:29.600 --> 02:16:32.600
<v Speaker 1>She actually is from North Europe, and she brings up

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02:16:32.600 --> 02:16:35.719
<v Speaker 1>a couple of points to further the point that these people,

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02:16:35.959 --> 02:16:39.559
<v Speaker 1>to your point, Jonathan, were not just Neanderthals living in caves.

2616
02:16:40.159 --> 02:16:45.000
<v Speaker 1>They strategically planted certain trees along their coastline to prevent

2617
02:16:45.040 --> 02:16:49.680
<v Speaker 1>coastal erosion. Cave dwellers wouldn't have had the forethought, for

2618
02:16:49.760 --> 02:16:52.319
<v Speaker 1>the foresight to do something like that, or to acknowledge

2619
02:16:52.360 --> 02:16:53.680
<v Speaker 1>that that was a real problem.

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02:16:53.879 --> 02:16:56.120
<v Speaker 2>You see what I'm saying, right, Yeah, it makes sense.

2621
02:16:56.799 --> 02:16:59.200
<v Speaker 1>And let's also keep in mind that even right now,

2622
02:16:59.200 --> 02:17:02.159
<v Speaker 1>there are four main rivers in Europe today that feed

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02:17:02.319 --> 02:17:06.959
<v Speaker 1>into the ancient rivers of Doggerland, and they are the Thames,

2624
02:17:07.399 --> 02:17:11.959
<v Speaker 1>the Ooze, the Vacier, and the Vaal River. Okay, any

2625
02:17:12.000 --> 02:17:15.319
<v Speaker 1>of our European listeners, if you live anywhere near those

2626
02:17:16.040 --> 02:17:21.319
<v Speaker 1>that one time that river fed into Doggerland. So if

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02:17:21.360 --> 02:17:25.239
<v Speaker 1>we look at the certain specimens and the animal life

2628
02:17:25.239 --> 02:17:27.879
<v Speaker 1>that has now been discovered from these treks and from

2629
02:17:27.920 --> 02:17:32.799
<v Speaker 1>these excavations, we now get a much much larger picture

2630
02:17:32.959 --> 02:17:35.799
<v Speaker 1>of what Doggerland really had going on at the time.

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02:17:35.879 --> 02:17:39.479
<v Speaker 1>This is history. With Kaylee, I cannot say enough about

2632
02:17:39.479 --> 02:17:41.479
<v Speaker 1>how awesome she is. Elhoul Go check out her channel

2633
02:17:41.479 --> 02:17:43.639
<v Speaker 1>as well. Let's hear what she has to say about it.

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<v Speaker 13>Take a look at some of the remnants from the

2635
02:17:45.639 --> 02:17:49.479
<v Speaker 13>Doggerland landscape that we can see today in modern times,

2636
02:17:49.719 --> 02:17:52.559
<v Speaker 13>a landscape that went all away from modern day the

2637
02:17:52.600 --> 02:17:55.719
<v Speaker 13>west coast of the Netherlands to the modern day east

2638
02:17:55.760 --> 02:17:58.840
<v Speaker 13>coast of England. Near where I grew up is a

2639
02:17:58.879 --> 02:18:03.920
<v Speaker 13>place called Shore. This location has a beautiful pine forest

2640
02:18:03.959 --> 02:18:07.280
<v Speaker 13>that mixes together with the sand of the dunes. These

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02:18:07.360 --> 02:18:10.680
<v Speaker 13>pine trees were planted about one hundred years ago, but

2642
02:18:11.319 --> 02:18:14.879
<v Speaker 13>the trees used to roam this area naturally for thousands

2643
02:18:14.879 --> 02:18:19.440
<v Speaker 13>of years. This area was once an Atlantic dune forest,

2644
02:18:19.879 --> 02:18:23.159
<v Speaker 13>but unfortunately the trees were cut down over the centuries

2645
02:18:23.639 --> 02:18:27.680
<v Speaker 13>leaving behind large sandy plains. As you can imagine, sandy

2646
02:18:27.719 --> 02:18:29.959
<v Speaker 13>plains are not a great defense against the water of

2647
02:18:30.000 --> 02:18:33.280
<v Speaker 13>the North Sea during storms, and knowing that this area

2648
02:18:33.319 --> 02:18:36.680
<v Speaker 13>of the Netherlands is situated a couple meters below sea level,

2649
02:18:37.239 --> 02:18:39.399
<v Speaker 13>this was a bit of an issue. So the decision

2650
02:18:39.520 --> 02:18:43.239
<v Speaker 13>was made to reinstate the Atlantic dune forest, and the

2651
02:18:43.280 --> 02:18:46.920
<v Speaker 13>same species of pine trees and also oaks, birches and

2652
02:18:47.079 --> 02:18:51.319
<v Speaker 13>rowans were thus planted about one hundred years ago. Pine

2653
02:18:51.319 --> 02:18:54.520
<v Speaker 13>trees hold the sand with their roots, preventing it from

2654
02:18:54.559 --> 02:18:58.040
<v Speaker 13>blowing away, and they evaporate a lot of water. What's

2655
02:18:58.120 --> 02:19:01.120
<v Speaker 13>fascinating is that it's total in the Netherlands is located

2656
02:19:01.159 --> 02:19:05.239
<v Speaker 13>at a latitude of fifty two point seven and Norfolk

2657
02:19:05.319 --> 02:19:08.239
<v Speaker 13>in England is located at a latitude of fifty two

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02:19:08.280 --> 02:19:11.959
<v Speaker 13>point six. The reason why this is fascinating has to

2659
02:19:11.959 --> 02:19:14.280
<v Speaker 13>do with the fact that here in Norfolk we can

2660
02:19:14.319 --> 02:19:18.159
<v Speaker 13>see the remnants of the other side of this ancient

2661
02:19:18.200 --> 02:19:23.319
<v Speaker 13>Atlantic dune forest. The coastline of Norfolk has the same pine, oak,

2662
02:19:23.479 --> 02:19:26.200
<v Speaker 13>birch and row on trees that grow through and near

2663
02:19:26.239 --> 02:19:30.440
<v Speaker 13>the sandy dunes, showing to us that long ago, during

2664
02:19:30.479 --> 02:19:33.360
<v Speaker 13>the time when Doggerland was still a land mass, A

2665
02:19:33.719 --> 02:19:37.600
<v Speaker 13>massive forest with sandy plains, stretched from the modern day

2666
02:19:37.639 --> 02:19:40.120
<v Speaker 13>coast of the Netherlands to the modern day coast of

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02:19:40.200 --> 02:19:44.840
<v Speaker 13>Norfolk in England. This type of forest is actually very

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02:19:44.959 --> 02:19:48.799
<v Speaker 13>common along the Atlantic coast of England. The characteristics of

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02:19:48.840 --> 02:19:52.399
<v Speaker 13>this particular ecosystem is the salt spray that the often

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02:19:52.479 --> 02:19:56.200
<v Speaker 13>strong wind constantly brings with it. That salt spray and

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02:19:56.360 --> 02:19:59.719
<v Speaker 13>the wind ensure that the upper parts of the branches

2672
02:19:59.799 --> 02:20:03.000
<v Speaker 13>are often break off, which causes trees to grow in

2673
02:20:03.120 --> 02:20:07.600
<v Speaker 13>more wid which explains their irregular shapes. Of course, it's

2674
02:20:07.680 --> 02:20:10.520
<v Speaker 13>unclear when the Atlantic dune forest first came to be,

2675
02:20:10.760 --> 02:20:14.239
<v Speaker 13>but it's safe to bet that this occurred before Doggerland

2676
02:20:14.479 --> 02:20:18.440
<v Speaker 13>sank beneath the waves. The forest most likely changed over

2677
02:20:18.520 --> 02:20:21.520
<v Speaker 13>time due to the salt spray. But because we can

2678
02:20:21.600 --> 02:20:25.719
<v Speaker 13>clearly see two distinct locations on both sides of the

2679
02:20:25.760 --> 02:20:29.799
<v Speaker 13>North Sea at as nearly the same latitude, it's not

2680
02:20:29.879 --> 02:20:32.159
<v Speaker 13>a big stretch to think that there used to be

2681
02:20:32.360 --> 02:20:35.239
<v Speaker 13>a very large forest spanning from North Holland in the

2682
02:20:35.280 --> 02:20:37.600
<v Speaker 13>Netherlands to Norfolk in England.

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02:20:38.760 --> 02:20:42.159
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so I actually did a little more digging on

2684
02:20:42.280 --> 02:20:44.680
<v Speaker 1>it after I heard her say this. So you know

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02:20:44.760 --> 02:20:49.920
<v Speaker 1>that we talked about how trees have genetic parents, right, Okay,

2686
02:20:50.680 --> 02:20:53.639
<v Speaker 1>So come to find out another group did a study

2687
02:20:53.719 --> 02:20:57.360
<v Speaker 1>on the birch Rowan Pine. All those trees that she

2688
02:20:57.479 --> 02:21:03.239
<v Speaker 1>just mentioned in Norway and in Norfolk they are from

2689
02:21:03.280 --> 02:21:07.479
<v Speaker 1>the same ancient parenting group. So we know beyond any

2690
02:21:07.520 --> 02:21:09.719
<v Speaker 1>shadow of any doubt that they at one time were

2691
02:21:09.760 --> 02:21:12.959
<v Speaker 1>a long line on the beachhead of.

2692
02:21:12.879 --> 02:21:14.920
<v Speaker 2>What was once a land mass.

2693
02:21:15.959 --> 02:21:19.239
<v Speaker 1>There is now, beyond all shadow of all doubt, that

2694
02:21:19.280 --> 02:21:22.639
<v Speaker 1>we do in fact have a lost continent, a lost

2695
02:21:22.840 --> 02:21:26.639
<v Speaker 1>land mass that was sunken beneath the waves for reasons

2696
02:21:26.760 --> 02:21:30.479
<v Speaker 1>unknown to them, but reasons that we speculate about today.

2697
02:21:31.399 --> 02:21:36.079
<v Speaker 1>Doggerland may in fact be the spawn point, if you will,

2698
02:21:36.440 --> 02:21:39.360
<v Speaker 1>of where all these myths and legends come from. Because again,

2699
02:21:40.200 --> 02:21:43.440
<v Speaker 1>there's no reason why the population in the Northern Europe

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02:21:43.559 --> 02:21:46.399
<v Speaker 1>area should have been what it was per the time

2701
02:21:46.479 --> 02:21:50.159
<v Speaker 1>scales that it was, and historians still are baffled at this.

2702
02:21:51.040 --> 02:21:53.760
<v Speaker 1>You look at the climate, it's not very agrable, right,

2703
02:21:53.760 --> 02:21:55.520
<v Speaker 1>There's not a lot of farming that's going on in

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<v Speaker 1>the northern sections of Europe. But you look throughout history

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<v Speaker 1>there has been a large land, are a large human

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02:22:01.280 --> 02:22:06.000
<v Speaker 1>population of those lands, it would reason that they didn't

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02:22:06.120 --> 02:22:09.920
<v Speaker 1>start there, but they fled there when their ancestral land

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<v Speaker 1>mass slowly over time went under the water.

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<v Speaker 2>Jonathan, what are your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's possible. I would hope to think that

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02:22:21.120 --> 02:22:25.799
<v Speaker 3>that's really what's going on, you know, because and it's honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>it's kind of sad because a lot of this stuff

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02:22:28.520 --> 02:22:32.200
<v Speaker 3>is really lost to the just to the annals of history,

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<v Speaker 3>so really a lot of it's just speculation. But I

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<v Speaker 3>love whenever they're you know, you can pull up certain

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02:22:37.840 --> 02:22:41.239
<v Speaker 3>things from this from whatever's being dredged, and it's like,

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02:22:41.719 --> 02:22:45.479
<v Speaker 3>oh shit, this actually lends some validity to the possibility

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<v Speaker 3>that all right, well, there was definitely people thousands and

2719
02:22:49.559 --> 02:22:52.120
<v Speaker 3>thousands and thousands of years ago. We don't know what

2720
02:22:52.159 --> 02:22:54.719
<v Speaker 3>their spiritual beliefs were, we don't know how advanced they were,

2721
02:22:54.760 --> 02:22:57.200
<v Speaker 3>we don't know what kind of jobs or or whatever

2722
02:22:57.360 --> 02:22:59.639
<v Speaker 3>kind of people they were or whatever, but we at

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02:22:59.719 --> 02:23:03.239
<v Speaker 3>least know that there were people using these tools thousands

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02:23:03.239 --> 02:23:06.159
<v Speaker 3>of years ago, and that's a good place to start.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, And so as you're probably gonna hear cult

2727
02:23:11.040 --> 02:23:13.879
<v Speaker 1>members through news sources and everything else, and through listening

2728
02:23:13.959 --> 02:23:16.719
<v Speaker 1>to shows like ours, you're gonna hear about these lost lands.

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<v Speaker 2>Just know that that is not base an absolute bullshit.

2730
02:23:20.319 --> 02:23:24.479
<v Speaker 1>There is at least currently land being discovered as we speak.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows what we will be discovering tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>You never know, dude, Like times are you know with

2733
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<v Speaker 3>the technology that that you know is currently being evolved.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, dude, look just look at it. We talk

2735
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<v Speaker 3>about technology all the time, Like it was just yesteryear

2736
02:23:42.799 --> 02:23:46.559
<v Speaker 3>everybody was watching movies on VCR, dude, and now you're

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<v Speaker 3>watching them through these fucking like these invisible sound and

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02:23:51.600 --> 02:23:56.200
<v Speaker 3>energy waves that are coming to your computer and your TV. Like, yeah,

2739
02:23:56.239 --> 02:24:00.680
<v Speaker 3>thirty years ago that sounded ridiculous, but now it's just

2740
02:24:00.840 --> 02:24:03.680
<v Speaker 3>accepted as common, so I think. And that's just one

2741
02:24:03.719 --> 02:24:07.840
<v Speaker 3>example obviously, but like it's it's cool to see what

2742
02:24:08.520 --> 02:24:12.680
<v Speaker 3>technology could possibly lend us to start to understand about

2743
02:24:12.680 --> 02:24:15.280
<v Speaker 3>what's at the depths of the ocean floor and maybe

2744
02:24:15.319 --> 02:24:17.840
<v Speaker 3>we can make and who knows, like maybe even history

2745
02:24:17.879 --> 02:24:21.639
<v Speaker 3>itself would be changed forever through the discoveries of whatever

2746
02:24:21.680 --> 02:24:24.399
<v Speaker 3>we find. Maybe we're we're looking at how to use

2747
02:24:24.440 --> 02:24:28.600
<v Speaker 3>certain tools or certain weapons or certain building techniques or

2748
02:24:28.639 --> 02:24:31.680
<v Speaker 3>whatever that we could pick up on these ancient people,

2749
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<v Speaker 3>you know, like I think that that's that's pretty badass.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent, brother, one hundred percent, And.

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<v Speaker 1>Call members if you did like this episode, if you

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was interesting, fascinating, complete bullshit, Hey, we would

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<v Speaker 1>This is real science that is coming to life before

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<v Speaker 1>your eyes, the combination of myth and legend and science

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<v Speaker 1>and in fact combining to be what it is. It

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<v Speaker 1>promoted to some more potential listeners who could then become

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<v Speaker 1>potential cult members like the rest of you. Finalies and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 1>we thank you for everybody who's already gone and done so.

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<v Speaker 1>But while you're at it, go check out Jonathan's show,

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<v Speaker 3>And with that being said, and this was another beautiful

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