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the Kylie Cast today, and that is with three of
my Federalist colleagues, Matt Kittle, Eddie Scarry, and El Pernell,
who are all here today to give their initial reactions
to the state of the Union I'm so excited to
hear their hot takes. So why don't we just kick
this right off? I want everybody to give Trump's a
State of the Union an initial grade and maybe know
what your favorite moment or what you think was the
most memorable point of the speech was Matt Kittle, why
don't we kick it off with you?
Speaker 2: I'm a tough grader. I always have been asked the
kids in my house, but I would say an as
I thought he did exceptionally well. Everybody's talking about the
unprecedented length of the speech, and as a journalist covering
the speech, I would say if he could keep that
under two hours, that would be great. But I think
he summed everything up that the message that he needed
to get across. The most important salient thing that he
said was when he turned to the hire Joint Session
of Congress, pointed to the left side of the aisle
and said, these people are crazy, because that is exactly
what they are. And he did an excellent job of
building the case for twenty twenty six and what the
difference is between the two sides. And I'm not talking
about Republicans and Democrats here, although Democrats have been co
opted by the radical Marxist left, no doubt about it.
What I'm talking about is the difference between sane, rational,
reasonable and insane criminally insane at times. And I thought
he just did a fantastic job over and over again
making them have to stand by their insanity and showcasing
that for all the world to see. I thought it
was genius.
Speaker 1: And speaking in the type of language that Americans can
relate to and actually want to hear, which is just
these people are crazy, Like who doesn't actually talk like
that about Democrats? So very very relatable language from the
president there.
Speaker 3: How about you, Eddie, I think as I'd probably go
about the same it was.
Speaker 4: You know, it was long.
Speaker 3: It was long, and I would say, really, if you
are going to do a speech that long, He did
it very well because I was pretty gripped the entire time.
It hit a lot of subjects I wanted to hear,
and most importantly, I would say, and I wrote about
this at the Federal it's just using that opportunity to
show the differences between the two parties.
Speaker 4: Or who's in power and who's out of power.
Speaker 3: And he did that over and over again in ways
that were both entertaining but also very informative, I think,
and I don't want to steal anyone's thunder here, but
I know it was a very remarkable moment when he
said something to the effect of I want you to
stand up if you agree with me that the number
one job of the American government is to protect its
citizens versus protecting illegal aliens. And then he rightly points
it out that not a single Democrat stood up for that.
Those are the kind of moments I really enjoyed. As
far as it being too long, I just think it
was all a pretty good speech. I think even the
last like twenty maybe fifteen twenty minutes, we're still good.
It was just at that point you're kind of you're
kind of slogging, So I would have probably cut it
down a little bit. But even he himself, I liked
where he actually made the point he said. What I
really like about this is it gives us a moment
to where the American people when you have every single
broadcast network, every single cable news channel, pretty much every
major streamer online streamer is going to be covering this,
and you're going to see what the big differences are
between us, the Republican Party, the Trump administration and the Democrats,
And I think that was a really good, really good
use of time. No matter who's president, I think that
that's gonna that should be the way every single president
treats these things.
Speaker 5: Mm hmmmm, absolutely, how about you, l I was thinking
as two and I went in with very low expectations,
expecting it to be long, and I'm not sure what
to expect, whether he was going to be able to
keep them amental up. But sorry, my dog's sparking, but
I was very pleasantly surprised. I think he did a
really great job. I agree it was long, but he
did a good job of projecting of making it an America.
Speaker 1: Two point fifty themed State of the Union, making it.
Speaker 5: Very patriotic, very raw, raw America. When the hockey team
came in, it was amazing. Obviously, the moment that Eddie
mentioned was like the standout moment of the night and
the time, the moment that if if Republican campaign strategist
are smart, they'll be blaring in television ads between now
and November.
Speaker 1: But the moment that made.
Speaker 5: Me tear up was the moment when the National guardsman
who had been shot in the head in DC, when
they when they showed him with his family, he was smiling,
the President surprised him with a purple heart, and just
seeing him whole and recovering so well that that was
really a sweet moment.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, Yeah, I couldn't agree more. I think I'm
maybe a little bit kinder of a greater than the
rest of you. Y'all followed Matt kittles lead. But I'll
great on a curve. And maybe it's just because of
how bad Abigail Spaanberger's response was, But I'll give Trump
an a just a straight a. And maybe it's also
because I went in with the lowest of low expectations.
I was so cynical about how this was going to go,
partly because I just am kind of sick of Republicans
and how useless they seem to be. Partly because State
of the Unions just seem like a chance to raw raw,
talk about all the things you've done, even if you
know you haven't done that much. And I think I
was just ready for, you know, a Pam Bondy flavored
look at the s and P five hundred type of
State of the Union, and instead it was so pro
America raw raw. The dichonomy that Trump was able to
draw between the Republican vision for the country and the
Democrat lack of vision for the country was just so
stark and so powerful. And I thought, I mean, I
was dreading the two hour long speech because we knew
it was going to be a long one, and I
really thought it flew by, and I think maybe petered
off at the end a little bit, but more so
just because I was ready for bed, But in general,
I mean, I was pretty tuned in for the whole
speech was it was just excellent, and I think it
just really put into stark contrast, you know, Thomas Soul's
conflict divisions. It's so funny because Democrats and Republicans obviously
have always had different ideas about where the country should
be headed. But you know, it's like, Okay, we all
want to fix the problem of homelessness, So what are
the policies want to we want to see implemented to
like bring people out of poverty or you know, we
all see this issue over here, but we just disagree
on how to get there. And it's so obvious now
that we cannot agree on basic, basic goals for the
future of the country. We were talking about pro America
versus a Thai America. We're talking about pro borders versus
anti borders, pro biology about the sexes, and truth about
the sexes versus complete denial of reality. So we can't
even agree on like basic truths. So these this conflict
of visions is less about policy and more just about
what do you even believe about what this country is
and what it's for. And I think that that's why
the moment where Trump said stand if you believe this
was so powerful because it was just so obvious the
disdain that half of the country has for law and
order and for what actually matters in this country. And yeah,
if Republicans are smart, they will clip that for so
many ads going into the midterms, Kylie.
Speaker 4: What's interesting about that? And it's something that I've bought
for a.
Speaker 3: Long time because back when I was growing up, I
think probably a lot of you heard the same thing,
was that Democrats and Republicans they want the same things,
they just have different beliefs about how to get there.
Speaker 4: That just is not true anymore. We just straight up
do not want the same things anymore.
Speaker 3: That's why I was saying, I think the President did
such a good job of just using this as an
opportunity when you have the biggest, the biggest audience possible,
people who really don't even follow politics that much. They're
not following the day to day like all of us are.
They they got to see that there are real differences here.
It's not small differences like it used to be. It's
like the things that we fundamentally disagree on and that
we want for this country and that we want for
the succeeding generations.
Speaker 2: Don't forget, folks, Abigail Spanburger is a moderate. I don't
know if you knew that. She campaigned on that, and
everybody on Tuesday night, all of the moderate media, corporate
media sources out there, wanted to make sure that you
knew that not only Abigail span Burger is a moderate,
she is a rising star in the Democrat Party. Now
take a look at her record and see if she
should be the former, if she is the former, and
if she should be the latter. And I think her
speech her response the other night showed that she's not
ready for prime time, although she is ready to destroy
a state.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the Wizard of Oz paying no attention
to the record. Behind the curtain at Gailsbamberg is such
a fake moderate. Yes, yes, I think. Another thing that
put these visions into stark contrast was I was dying
at Fox panning over to transgender identifying Member of Congress
Tim Slash Sarah McBride, right after Trump highlighted the story
of Sage Blair, the former student in Virginia who was
attempted to be trans by the school system and was
then trafficked in all these things against the knowledge of her,
of her legal guardians, and just this like, of course
Democrats can't stand for this because they have kowtow to
the most radical side of their party, which elects members
of Congress who do not even not even uphold basic
truths about the sexes. And then yeah, of course with immigration,
we saw that dichotomy on display again. It was just
over and over and over. Yeah, truly truly remarkable. I
also loved, you know, everybody was already riding the raw
rah Usa high of the men's hockey team winning the
gold against Canada, our authoritarians to the north in the Olympics,
and so it was just so cool to parade them
out as one of the first parts of the speech, like,
what a great way to get the energy going. It
was just just so awesome. And then to see some
Democrats not even able to stand for that, like a
what a sad, miserable party they are. Lu actually wrote
a great piece about Democrats anti Americanism, and specifically Rashida
Talib and ilhan Omar, who you identified as a Democrat
from Mogadishu. I almost cried a laughter when you wrote that.
But maybe you can speak to some of their sour
disposition during the speech as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So, I mean, like y'all touched on and the midterms
and this year, both both parties are going to be
trying to set up a contrast between the two. And
Trump really did a good job in his whole speech
setting up the conservative side of the country as the
patriotic pro America. He wisely affiliated his State of Union
address with the US hockey team, and he brought out
these like war heroes, whether they were one hundred years
old and fight in World War Two or young and
just participated in the raid to get Nicholas Maduro. And
so it was just this like great American moment. And
then you had the Coastguard rescue. I think the rescue
swimmer who rescued the Texas It was just like these sweet,
feel good.
Speaker 1: Patriotic moments.
Speaker 5: You left this speech feeling like proud to be an American,
which apparently is also a divisive political opinion. And then
it really really neutered Spanberger's response for him to do that,
because then she gets up and she's like, no, stop
being patriotic, Like life is horrible under Trump. Remember you're
supposed to be like under a Nazi regime and life
is terrible and Trump is terrible, and how dare you
enjoy this moment of patriotism? And so obviously like that's that.
That is democrats big push leading into the midterms is
your life is horrible, and Trump did a really good
job of making people feel like, no, life is like
we're Americans. We're so happy to be Americans. And sure,
obviously there's there's ways, there's lots of policies that could
be passed to improve everybody's life, and that's, you know,
a question to take up with the Senate Majority leader.
Speaker 4: But at the end of the.
Speaker 5: Day, it was a do love America? Are you proud
to be an American? Versus does that make you mad?
And Trump set that up really well, and Democrats totally
played into his hand by by by showing their disappointment
and frustration at that America.
Speaker 2: First, we're reporters, and so we have to take this
stuff and we have to check the sources, and the
whole idea of if your mother tells you she loves you,
get a second source kind of thing. All of that said,
I'm watching that speech and I'm thinking what I have
long thought, but what so many people on the left
have told me, that if you're proud to be an American,
you are a racist and a systemic system. And what
Donald Trump has done, not just in two point zero,
but what he has done throughout the political part of
his career has reinforced told Americans you don't have to
be ashamed of America. It's interesting to see the polling
out there when you look at Republicans generally proud of
their country and a third of Democrats proud of their country.
That's sad. And I think a lot of that began
with Baraco Mama's apology tour when he first got into office.
You know, mister Nobel Peace Prize winner, Trump said, no,
that's that's ridiculous. We are a great country, We're an
exceptional country, and on this two hundred and fiftieth anniversary
birthday of this country, we are going to remember that.
Speaker 5: The only reason I was looking down is I was
trying to find the numbers because there's this this Gallup
poll that's been going around recently and by political party.
They looked at the pride in being an American, and
in two thousand and one, ninety percent of Republicans and
eighty seven percent of Democrats, pretty similar numbers, were proud
of be an American. And now in twenty twenty five,
Republicans are at ninety two, so they've gone up two points.
Speaker 1: Democrats are at thirty six.
Speaker 5: I think part of it, too, is definitely what you mentioned,
but it's also you know, I wonder how what percent
of those Democrats who are not proud of America just
moved here from somewhere else like Elano.
Speaker 1: Great point. Oh, that's a great point. I thought, another
really potent part of the speech. And I didn't think
to look back to see whether previous State of the
Unions are more recent State of the Unions have have
addressed this. But I loved Trump's comment on the like
Christian revival we're experiencing, the way he highlighted Erica Kirk,
but also just noted, you know that that aspect of
what we've experienced in this country over the past year,
because I know, you know, we've watched pole after poll
of just decline and religiosity and church attendance among Americans
that's been happening. You know, that's been a trend. That's
that's old and I don't know what official polls say now,
but I think anek totally we can probably all point
to people we know and things that we've experienced in
our own churches or in our own communities of just
like a revival. It's it's undeniable. And that was just
a really cool thing to include that. It wasn't just
this like red, white, and blue America, you know, patriotic flair.
It was also you know, even nodding to our first
principles and nodding to the importance of America being a
Christian nation and how we've experienced that over the past year.
That I thought was a cool inclusion by Trump's team.
Speaker 2: I agree. I think that that faith issue obviously has
been intensifying. It's a you know, a reawakening that we've
seen many of those in this country's history, because at
its core it's still there. But sometimes we think, my God,
given the state of events, we've lost that central focus
in our lives. And I think so many people have
this huge void and they're filling it with this garbage
that is coming from the left, which makes the void
even bigger and bigger, and it's I think that is
a big part of what is ripping up this country today.
But I think everything kind of changed. We had a
pause and then we had reflection following the death of
Charlie Kirk, the assassination, not just the death, I mean
the cold blooded murder of a guy who is not
only a voice, a young voice of conservative principles, he
was an evangelizing force in this country. People were waking
up not only to the politics of things, but to
the religion of things, the faith matters that are so
critical to this exceptional republic.
Speaker 1: And maybe that speaks to some of the difference in
pride in being in America or not between between the
parties as well, where you know, for many Republicans, or
specifically many conservative Americans, you know, their faith is foundational
to their lives, they go to church, they are very
involved in their communities, they have families, you know, and
so when that is the foundation of your life, politics
kind of takes a backburner. You don't fall for as
much of the rage bait. It's just kind of like you,
you know, why you believe what you do, and you
know that faith infuses a lot of your political activism
because it's not political activism so much as like worldview,
religious activism, you know, to protect children from the abortion scourge,
to protect children from transgenderism, to you know, to build
strong families and strong communities. Whereas on the left when
you see the breakdown of religiosity and this the ascendance
of politics as religion. But it's just this religion of
no grace, no forgiveness, uh, you know, just bitterness and anger.
And I mean we saw this with the activists in
Minneapolis most recently, just this flashpoint of just this angry,
hate filled politics that just is so godless and you know,
no wonder these people are not proud to be Americans
because they don't they don't believe in the fundamental things
that make this country great, which starts with faith, freedom, family,
you know, these very basic foundational principles that so many
conservatives do still believe it does.
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Speaker 1: Elle, you brought up Abigail Spanberger's response. That's a great
great segue to talk about that. Did anybody stay awake
for that? And what were how would you graid her response?
What were your thoughts on that?
Speaker 4: Eddie?
Speaker 1: You want to kick us off?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I watched the rebuttal and what was the most striking
thing about it?
Speaker 4: I will say much of the.
Speaker 3: Content I didn't even catch because it was we had
just finished up the two hour speech. But what was
very distracting about it was that and I know what
they were doing. I appreciate the effort because you know
when usually the rebuttal is, you know, somebody standing at
a podium, they're by themselves in the room, and they
give up after you know, watching an hour or whatever
it is of the president with all these people a
full room.
Speaker 4: And they're clapping.
Speaker 3: You have a lot of people clapping, and there's like
a lot of you know, dynamics that play there. You
then switch to the rebuttal and it's you know, just
one person, and it often falls very flat. So what
they tried to do in this case, which I don't
know that I've ever seen this in a rebuttal speech before,
was they had they put people in the room to
make it look like she had an audience. But the
reason why that didn't really work was because they were
clearly told when there must have been a sign, like
literally a sign that went up and said clap and
then stopped.
Speaker 4: Clapping, clap, stop.
Speaker 3: Clapping, because it was so abrupt, they would immediately start clapping,
and it was like it was so not spontaneous. They
were clapping like in Unison and then immediately it would
stop so that she could continue. So I found it
very distracting, I really feel I mean, I don't I
was almost going to say they could have picked somebody better,
but I don't know who that would have been.
Speaker 4: I think that the rebuttal that.
Speaker 3: They gave, maybe that was maybe that was last year,
the rebuttal to Trump's first address to the nation last
year that was actually much more attractive and more appealing
than this one was. I'm not sure what the calculus
was was going with her.
Speaker 4: Maybe, like Max Fell said.
Speaker 3: There, they're really trying to sell the governor of Virginia
as a as a moderate.
Speaker 4: But I would just think they could have picked somebody else.
Speaker 1: They would have picked Gavin Newsom, but he couldn't read,
so they couldn't They couldn't go with him.
Speaker 2: The problem that's that's going to dog him for a
long time, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Yep, Matt, what did you think?
Speaker 2: I thought it was god awful? I agree with Eddie.
I think it was choreographed and staged, like most of
the performative nonsense on the left is, and it was
just another you know, and I guess the only thing
that was missing from that speech ultimately was I really
thought at any time a grown man in a frog
costume was going to pop on in because that's become
the symbol of the resistance movement in America. But Elle
talked about it before, and it's just it's so silly.
But unfortunately I wrote about this earlier this week the
night of of the State of the Union address. You
have a media, a corporate media, the accomplice prov depress
that have spent years just with negative coverage trying to
beat down everything, even the accomplishments of the president. And
there have been many you know, our friends over at
the Media Research Center have been looking at this for
a long time. His first one hundred days in office
in Trump two point zero ninety two percent negative coverage.
We've all reported on you know, the late night comedians
so to speak. You know, there's they've had one one
Republican or conservative guest in the year, you know, and
so when you have all of that coordinated, and that's
what it is, negative coverage of an administration. It was
nice to see. And I understand why Trump wanted to
take two plus hours, because he gets no time anywhere else.
Had they had to give him this time, and he
was able to just expertly describe the differences as we
talked about before. And then when you got to Abigail Spanberger,
after all all of this and the moments of pride
in America and the moments of clear vision of where
the country is going and where the president would like
to take the country and those America First values, you
got Abigail Spanberger, who you know, is the walking example
of the Lefs dystopic look at America. It's vision, you know,
of burning it down to recreate it in their own
Marxist image. And I think that you know that that
was a very powerful contrast.
Speaker 1: Well, how about you?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought her speech was very wooden, and I'm
not just saying that because her face didn't move, but
it was very like you could tell it was kind
of like a high schooler giving a speech in that
she was very just reading off the teleprompter except for
the one point where she lost her place and made
it very obvious, like it's it's hard to follow Trump,
right because he just comes in and he ad libs
and he's got all this energy, and then she just
came in and like I listened to the whole I
did stay up and listen to the whole thing and
then wrote afterwards. But then as I was writing, I
went back to review the transcript of her speech, and
I was, like, she said this, I don't remember her
saying this, Like it was very easy to tune out,
and maybe that's just because it was late night, but
it was, Yeah, it was like it was. I appreciated
that it was fairly short. I don't know how long
they are on average, but it felt like it was
over quickly, maybe because she wasn't putting a lot of
energy into it, but it was a very like she
didn't make a ton of big missteps. But I thought
it was kind of a wasted opportunity to in that
she didn't put a lot Like you didn't really think
that she believed what she was saying, and maybe that's
just because she's not a very good public speaker. But
it was very forgettable follow up.
Speaker 1: But I mean, if you compare.
Speaker 5: It to the alternative programming that was going on on
the National Mall, it was it was certainly better than that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just kind of yeah, no kidding. I just
kind of thought it fell flat, like it had all
of these issues with the please clap flavor, and yeah,
she's not a very good public speaker, and she was
also talking quickly, so she kind of rushed through it
and you know, lost her place or whatever. But it's
also just like, lady, we just watched two hours of
like pro America programming where your party sat there like
sour pusses and or like you know, launched expletives at
the president. But then we're supposed to take your rebuttal
seriously as if like you are representing the real state
of America. It's just like nobody's buying what you're selling.
Kind of was was how how I took it, And
at the same time, I felt very similarly where as
I'm listening, I'm like, you know, when you read this city,
you read a paragraph and you're like, I have no
idea what I just read because I was thinking about
something else. That's how I felt listening to Abigail Spamberger speech,
where it's like I'm watching your lips move, I'm hearing words,
but I'm not even listening because I'm so not buying
what you're selling. That's how I felt in this speech
as me.
Speaker 4: It's the problem that sorry, el just real quick.
Speaker 3: It's just the problem that Democrats are in right now,
and they have been in, and you.
Speaker 4: Can look at Poles and you can see.
Speaker 3: You can see that supposedly Trump is unpopular and his
policies are unpopular. But Democrats and when they talk about
offering an alternative, they talk about, we have to offer
the alternative to Trump. What is the alternative to the
major issues that were talked about during that.
Speaker 4: State of the Union speech.
Speaker 3: You either have an open border or it's closed. You
have controlled immigration or you don't. You can you either
dump money into the economy, print money to the economy,
raise inflation, or you don't.
Speaker 4: You try to cut spending.
Speaker 3: You're either tough on crime and you believe in locking
up criminals or you don't.
Speaker 4: So there is no there's no moderate middle ground on
any of these issues. You either de poor people because
they're here illegally or you.
Speaker 3: Don't, or you don't believe in controlling immigration, you don't
believe in borders. When Democrats keep saying we have to
alter offer an alternative, there is no alternative to the right,
or there is, but it's not popular, then the alternative
that they want to.
Speaker 4: Offer is not popular. So when you have.
Speaker 3: Someone who is tasked with getting up and offering the
alternative is that they're going to do the complete opposite.
And that's all they've got at this moment is doing
the complete opposite.
Speaker 4: Americans are reminded.
Speaker 3: They look at that and go, I don't I didn't
like that when you did it the last time.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to do it again.
Speaker 3: Well. Yeah.
Speaker 5: It also just to build on that, it made it
very obvious that Democrats not only do they not mind
shamelessly lying there they're depending on, you know, the low
information voters whose ballots they can harvest, who are insulated
in the bubble of the corporate press and it's coverage.
But also they don't really mind if you know that,
because Abigail Spanberger is you know, I'm a Virginia resident,
and every time she opened her mouth about affordability, it's laughable.
I had a friend who's energy built went from like
about one hundred dollars to four hundred in a month.
Speaker 3: Oh my what?
Speaker 5: And so like for her to get up there and
talk about affordability and to say with a straight face,
a very straight face, that you know, she's making things
more affordable for Virginians like they're not even trying to
be convincing. They're just counting on having a population that
will believe every word they say.
Speaker 2: And she had to follow not only Donald Trump, she
had to follow the antics of her own party, which
we're on full display. I think that nothing better encapsulated
the Democrats that night. Then the photo that went with
Elle's exceptional piece on the two different fictions of America.
You see Rashida to leave just so just seething with anger,
just you know, all of this hatred for this man,
and i ilhan Omar the same thing. They just look
absolutely miserable and furious. Now, that's going to play well
with the we hate Trump and that's the only issue
that we're dealing with. But for Middle America and a
lot of independents who may have some misgivings about Donald
Trump here or there. I think that was an iconic
image and everybody saw it, and it's really really telling.
When it is paused, you can see that hatred.
Speaker 4: M Well.
Speaker 5: I think also like Democrats are they're they're for the midterms,
there's they're running on hatred of Trump, and it's such
a polarized environment right now that you can get a
lot of people to just be unhappy with how things
currently are. But it's a reminder that that when when
voters see Democrats.
Speaker 1: They don't like what they see.
Speaker 5: When they see, you know, democrats cheering for trains and kids,
or refusing to stand up for American citizens over I
legal aliens, or defending you know, violent murderers and rapists
who have come here illegally, or you know, fighting against
law enforcement. Like when Democrats have airtime, generally they're doing
things that voters don't like. They don't have a positive vision,
like Eddie said, to sell to the American people. So
I think it was very smart for Trump to use
some of his time at the City of the Union
to kind of put the spotlight back on Democrats who
have not had the spotlight as much since they're not
in power.
Speaker 4: And when do they have fun?
Speaker 3: Like I would genuinely ask that when when is the
last time I genuinely saw because I remember, I remember
during the Obama years, there were times when they looked
like they were having fun, especially like Hollywood. There was
this glamor around Obama. But even when if you go
to the not too distant past of Brad Summer and
you know, the vibes and the joy of Kamala that
was so fake and you can it is so obviously fake.
And that is really the biggest problem that that party
has right now. It's this fakery, this fraudulent because even
when they talk about you know, you watch someone like like, well,
first you have James Talerico of Texas running for US
Senate in Texas, and he's he's selling this perverse obviously
nine any way in line with Christianity, the biblical teaching,
and yet he swears that it is.
Speaker 4: And you just you don't have to be a very
religious person. I'm not. I am a Christian, but not
a very religious person. I look at.
Speaker 3: Him swearing that Jesus and he was so indifferent to abortion.
Jesus would have been so indifferent to abortion. I'm like,
that is just a blatant lie. You look at Gavin
Newsom now making the tours, you know, government of California,
making tours in the podcast and trying to talk like
he's this this jock, this bro and it's you know,
the selling the masculinity, and it just it reeks of fakery.
And that's that's on the superficial level. But then you
look at the policy level, and it's the same thing
when they talk about.
Speaker 4: As you were just saying, we were talking about affordability.
Speaker 3: That's a nice issue for them right now because the
public is understandably frustrated with prices and the stubborn high prices.
Speaker 4: They're very frustrated.
Speaker 3: But Democrats when they start talking about how well they've
got the answer to affordability, that it reeks of fake,
because you know, they're the ones lest The President said
during the speech that was like, I think my favorite moment,
the funniest moment where he says, you guys did that,
You guys caused this problem, and you look right at
them and send that.
Speaker 4: I think that.
Speaker 3: People know that and just to use that and think
that you can use it as like, you know, a
political weapon. At the moment people are looking at it,
it's just fake. And the whole party just has such
a problem with fakery. They fake, they fake joy, which
is very very sad.
Speaker 2: Well, wait a minute, don't you I remember vividly how
much joy tampon Tim Walls was having. Remember when he
was loading his n right badly, Remember the flannel shirts. Yeah,
he was having all kinds of joy. Actually, the last
time I remember joy with any Democrat. I remember it clearly.
It was Gavin Newsom back in the middle of COVID
his lockdowns, and he was just having a delightful time
at that restaurant. Wasn't he just laughing and enjoying while
he locked is the rest of his estate down? I
remember that was a joyful moment for those folks.
Speaker 4: That's true. That's true.
Speaker 3: I think that Democrats feel no joy greater than when
they're and I mean this, when they are like crushing
the middle class, crushing the American independent spirit. They really do,
I think get something out of that.
Speaker 1: The fakery is such a good point to Eddie because
and the fun like you could tell multiple times during
Trump's speech, like he's having a good time and jd.
Vance is laughing behind him. It comes off as very authentic,
like when he's ad libbing. Maybe this wasn't an ad lib,
I forget, but just like when he makes the comment
about is Nancy Pelosi here after he brings up Insider Tree,
like that was genuinely funny, and like Americans who are
tuned in at all are going to find that funny
because that's like, you know, a hilarious joke, non joke
from Trump. And you know, there were several other times
through his speech where he's like laughing through things, or
when he's joking with the US hockey goalie about like
did you you know, did you do that move on purpose?
Or you know, did you get a little bit lucky?
You know, and he's it's like, this is genuinely fun.
And also like when Trump honors the US hockey team,
you believe him. When he honors American heroes, you believe
him because this is the spirit of the conservative side
of the aisle. It's like if Gavin Newsome got up
there and gave the exact same speech Trump did, you
would not believe a word of it because it's like, dude,
you're the guy who cleans up your streets for jijingping,
but can't be bothered to clean them up for the
residents that elected you. Like this is it's just so unbelievable.
When Democrats tried to do the authentic you know, pro America,
it's like, you don't care about this country, which is
why you let its borders be overrun. But when Trump,
you know, does a pro America thing, and JD's standing
for it, and you know the Republicans are standing for
It's like, yeah, I believe you because because the policies
that you support back this up. It's not fake, and
the joy that you exude is not fake. Like I
believe I'm buying what you're selling. Unlike Abigail Spamberger, completely
different vibe. L you brought up the propaganda press bubble
when you were talking about Abigail Spamburger. Let's talk media
coverage of the state of the union generally, because surely
there was nothing the media could disagree with or or
you know, propaganda is about. In response, what were some
of the most egregious responses you saw from members of
the corporate media.
Speaker 3: This idea that Abigail spans but which that name is
just so insane to me. I hate saying that name.
But no, it's kind of a scary name. Yeah, it's
a very scary name. I think just this, And you know,
you see this a lot with the media, whenever there
is a some kind of rebuttal or counter to Trump,
this hyping up, this fake hyping up of this person
as though they're the appealing.
Speaker 4: The last time I think that was genuine.
Speaker 3: In any way was the last rebuttal, I can't remember
her name. I think she's out of Michigan House representative now.
But she gave a pretty decent speech. But the thing
was that she didn't talk about any of the things
that Democrats were known for just one year prior. Nothing
about affordability, nothing about the crime, nothing about the border.
Speaker 4: Not talked about none of.
Speaker 3: Those things because Democrats were so unpopular in all of
those things. So when you had the media come out
and say, oh, that was actually a pretty decent speech,
I think that they were right about that.
Speaker 4: But in this case, no, they're.
Speaker 3: Just more fakery of like, oh, yeah, that's that moderate
who's shown what it's like to win a swing state.
Virginia's not really a swing state anymore, but for Democrats
who win a statewide election.
Speaker 4: I saw a lot of that after the rebuttal.
Speaker 1: So I have two favorites.
Speaker 5: One was the Washington which said that Trump's speech took
a darker turn when he asked Democrats if they would
stand to agree with the statement that they should protect
American citizens aliens that to the Washington Post, that was
a very dark moment, even though that's a sentiment that
you know, radical, right wingers like former President Jimmy Carter
have said as much in their own speeches. So that
was one favorite. And then another favorite was the New
York Times. So they took this quote of Trump's from
the speech. Trump said, we are deporting illegal alien criminals
from our country at record numbers, and we're getting them
the hell out of here fast. That's a very true statement. Like,
no one can disagree with that, except for the New
York Times, which says that that claim is exaggerated. And
their reasoning for that is they say, the majority of
people detained by immigration officials do not have criminal convictions,
and by criminal convictions they mean convictions crimes other than
crossing the border illegally. But it was still funny because
under that then they put a graph and it compares
the deportations under Trump and the deportations under Biden, and
Trump was still deporting more criminals, still deporting criminals and
record numbers. He's just also deporting people who have committed
the crime of crossing the border illegally at record numbers.
Speaker 2: Two.
Speaker 5: But the New York Times decided to fact check that
with a statement that did not contradict the statement that
Trump mate, and that was what.
Speaker 3: There was also this weird, trifling one that I saw
in CNN with their little nerd fact checker named Daniel Dale,
who there was a part in the speech where and
I mean I thought it was kind of I didn't
know if I was learning new information or what or
where Trump said in his speech to he referred to
the young woman tragic story of the young woman in
Charlotte who was stabbed in the knack on the bus
from behind. That's a story about crime, as we all know,
and how in the permissive nature of Democrats with crime.
Speaker 4: Very important point to make.
Speaker 3: The President did, for some reason claim that the attacker
was let in through open borders under wide An administration.
I don't know that there's any proof of that, but
that CNN decided to bring in their little nerd, Daniel
Dale to fact check that and call it a lie
and say that, well, there's absolutely no proof that this
guy was.
Speaker 4: An illegal alien.
Speaker 3: Talk about missing the point, missing the point of why
he even told that story. So, yeah, that was just
one of those trifling things that the media is very
very good at doing these days.
Speaker 2: Well, and that's missing, missing the point is exactly what
they do. Yeah, So over and over again. I'm sorry,
I'll go ahead.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: I was just going to say that pointing out that
that guy was a homegrown product of Democrat policies, is
not you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. The worst one that I saw, speaking of
trifling was the Associated Press. And if you are looking
for some integrity from fact checking, you will not look
at the Associated Press. But what they said Trump was
lying when he said the revolution of seventeen seventy six
continues today. And they said, I'm not giving you. They
said something to the effect that, no, the Revolutionary War
ended in the seventeen hundred.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 2: It was so obtuse it was. You would have to
be lebottomized to think that that was what Trump was saying,
that the Revolutionary War continued to this day. He's talking about, obviously,
the two hundred and fiftieth birthday of the United States
of America, and that revolutionary spirit that continues in a
land that is marked by independent, self governing, self governing individuals,
or at least it was until the leviathan of the
administrative state and big government took over. But yeah, that's
the sort of nonsense that we deal with every day.
And I think the Federalist does a great job of
pointing that out to anybody who wants to see it.
Speaker 1: That's so embarrassing. Imagine being that dense and obtuse that
that's your that's your big fact check.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: I also thought there seemed to be a lot of
obfuscation of the Democrats sitting down for a lot of
parts of the speech. And I know, you know, it's
hard to know how much of that is intentional when
it comes to the camera angles, because you know, a
lot of these are our cameras that are just in
the house gallery, and you know, I doubt that a
lot of what you're seeing is like intentionally hiding the
Democrats sitting. But in the in the coverage of it,
you certainly saw I think from the Washington Post, I
forget the roundup of of of outlets that just you know,
breezed past the fact that Democrats stayed seated and refused
to support these eighty twenty things like securing the Moore
and like promoting you know US team sports and you know,
law in order, crime whatever whatever it.
Speaker 3: Just and now that you bring that up, because it's
making me remember what it was like under the first
term and whenever we had a State of the Union
was Trump giving and the Democrat Party was a lot
more cohesive and therefore stronger, I would say, because they
were all just really united against getting Trump out office
because they knew that the next election was coming around.
But if you look at the difference in the way
that the media treated it, it was very much to
emphasize what Democrats were doing, how were they responding. You
might remember there was that one State of the Union
where basically all the women wore white that I think
had something to do with abortion or something, But you know,
it was these dramatic displays and the media talking about
you know, the media really branded it and hyped it
up as like this is the resistance, this was the
resistance to Trump, and they really focus on it this time.
To your point, you didn't see a lot of that.
You didn't see because there were some pretty hysterical moments
with Rashida Talib chanting KKK when everyone else was yelling USA,
and then you had Johan Omar looking every bit as
crazy as she is, screaming out you know, we just
got off looking at just seeing how corrupt the Somali
community is in her state, and then to see her
like kind of just fulfilling this this negative stereoside of
like where she's.
Speaker 4: From and everything. It was just a really bad look.
Speaker 3: And I think that there's a lot to be said
about the media saying let's not talk about that, just
how how repulsive and gross that side was, Like we're
gonna let's talk about other things.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the dark turn that Trump speech show. Right, Yeah,
exactly exactly, Kylie.
Speaker 5: You said you didn't think the camera angles was deliberate,
and I had to disagree. I was watching it on
NBC and when they showed Timyo, I say, I was like, okay,
are the Democrats standing up? Because you know they're not
going to stand up for anything that looks good for Trump,
And my screen is like, they wouldn't show it, so
I don't. I'm not sure if there were some networks
that were in the pool or if it was all
one pool camp. I think I had different angles than
the people that were watching on c SPAN, but I
do think some you know, there was so much, so
many times that the camera angles were suspiciously avoiding showing
the Democrat pout session that I did wonder if it
was deliberate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did have the same questions. Actually, I'm not
saying that it was. It definitely was not deliberate. I'm
just saying, like, I don't know, it's hard to know
what exactly is happening with the camera angles because I
don't know where everyone's feed was coming from. But I
did notice too. I was watching on CBS, and you know,
people on our team would be asking, what are the
Democrats doing right now? And I'm like, I have no
idea because uh, you know, we're only getting or only
getting one angle, and you know, it always seemed to
be pointed at either Trump or the subject of who
Trump was talking about. There was just really never any
panning to the floor the gallery at all. So it
was just really hard to tell. But I would not
I certainly wouldn't put past the media to only zero
one on those angles to hide and back that Democrats
were sitting. I mean, of course not. We don't hate
the media enough. These people are corrupt in every way
imaginable and then some so, so yeah, I'm completely with you.
I think a lot of it was probably intentional too,
but it's just it's hard, it's hard to describe motive
because I just I don't know where they're getting their feed,
but yeah, could not agree more. All right, we only
have a few minutes left here. We lost Matt Kittle
who's having internet issues, so rest in peace. Matt will
catch you next time. But before we go, I want
to talk about the midterms and what Republicans need to do,
because it's it's great to finish a Trump's speech and
feel energized and feel like, yeah, he loves America. Republicans
are on the right track. But when you think about
a lot of the successes that Trump touted during his speech,
many of them come down to executive orders, and he's
kind of, you know, he's kind of a one man
show in many ways. He and a few of his
cabinet members who are really getting things done. And then
you look at the dysfunctional GOP Congress, who appears to
be just lazy, sitting on their hands, and we're just
likeable of incapable of getting anything done. There's no grit,
there's no stamina, there's no will to win, apparently among Republicans,
and so you know, Trump's speech would be great if
we were having the midterms tomorrow, but we're not. We've
got eight months. So what in your mind do Republicans
need to do to energize voters before the midterms. And
I think the Save Act, the Save America Act, has
a lot to do with this. But how can Republicans
get that done? And what else can they do to
keep the base energized for the next eight months.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So, I mean Trump gave people a lot of
reasons to vote for him on Tuesday, but at the
end of the day, he's not on the ballot this November,
He's not going to be on the ballot again. And
so Republicans, fundamentally, they just need to give people a
reason to.
Speaker 1: Vote for them, to turn out for them.
Speaker 5: I think Republicans need to be serious about building their
ground game. There was a big ground game in twenty
twenty four. A lot of that was due to to
Charlie Kirk and TPUSA. They I haven't heard a lot
about their ground game. I'm not seeing a lot right
now in Virginia with this referendum on Democrats jeerrymandering coming
up in April, and so I think Republicans need to
really get as serious about ground game as they were
in twenty twenty four and keep building that and not
wait until a month before the election to start thinking
about ballot chasing if they want to win. And then yeah,
I mean, they just they need to pass the Save
America Act, that's a flagship piece of legislation, and generally
like pass more of Trump's nominees. They're just giving the
impression to Americans that they're not working very hard. The
hardest I think they have appeared to work was to
potentially extend the Obamacare subsidies, and while that fell through,
like they gave the appearance that they were working very hard,
some of them extend to bail out Obamacare. So I
want to see that level of effort coming to thing
that I as a voter care about, that other voters
care about too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of time.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of time between here and the election,
but it does go by very very fast. I think
that the best thing for Republicans to do, if they're
going to in any way mitigate their losses in the midterm,
is just they have to wake up and realize that
it's coming. It's coming whether they like it or not,
and they might as well shoot for the stars while
they've got the time. And I understand the pressures of
you know, campaigning and you're trying to save your seat
and you don't want to do anything that's going to
upset anybody.
Speaker 4: But it's coming whether they like it or not.
Speaker 3: And Trump, like we were just talking about, that's one guy.
You can't hang up everything on him. In some ways,
I think that he kind of brings this on himself
and just that he likes doing things on his own.
Speaker 4: He's a business guy.
Speaker 3: You make decisions, you run a company, You make the decision,
and then things just start moving.
Speaker 4: It doesn't really work that way in government.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, Republicans in Congress that that's
their own branch of government. They have agency. They can
say all right, well let's get moving. Instead, you get
quotes all the time where they say, well, the President's
gonna have to get involved in this, but we're gonna
have to hear from the president on this. No, your Congress,
you have your own leader there, you have the House Speaker,
you have the setate majority.
Speaker 4: It's time to just get moving. You're gonna have to
do the Save Act. You're gonna you can introduce.
Speaker 3: Any number of bills on any number of topics, and
that doesn't mean they're going to have to go through,
but people are gonna have to see, Okay, those are
your priorities, that's the Republican priorities. What's the Democrat priority,
and what's what's the alternative? What is it that they'd
rather focus on?
Speaker 4: What is it? What is it that that aligns with
my views?
Speaker 3: And if Republicans can't even do that, then they're looking
at a really big.
Speaker 4: Mess in November. So I think the best thing they
can do is again.
Speaker 3: Just wake up and start start moving, Start moving bills,
start introducing legislation, and at a minimum, you can get
you can show the contrast and say Democrats won't even
support this, they won't support voter ID, they won't support
more money for for for the Department of Homeland Security.
They're keeping people out of TSA, they're they're slowing down
the airports that they're putting the country at risk.
Speaker 4: You know, do that over and over again.
Speaker 3: And at least people get to see that there is
a real difference heading into November.
Speaker 1: I yes, make Democrats defend their opposition to voter ID
in these other measures, implement like get on the talking filibuster,
get these people on the record, make them explain their vote,
all of these procedural maneuvers from Republicans, John Thune saying, oh,
we're going to get we're going to get a vote
on this or you know whatever, rather than rather than
saying we're going to pass this or we're going to
we're going to use the talking filibuster. It's just it's
so empty.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like, when it comes to Republicans, what are you expecting,
vibes white Papers essays when it comes to Trump, No,
when it comes to Congress, yes, that's exactly what we're expecting.
And voters need to see more than that. Ella cut
you off.
Speaker 4: Oh you're good.
Speaker 5: I was just going to say that point about forcing
Democrats to vote against some thing.
Speaker 1: I think that's really important.
Speaker 5: Going back to what we were talking about with the
state of the Union was there hasn't been a lot
of spotlight on Democrats and they're insanity, and so if
you have them voting against, you give them the opportunity
to vote for, they will inevitably vote against these eighty
twenty issues. I think that's a strategy that I'm really
surprised that the Republicans have not taken more advantage.
Speaker 1: Of Democrat They should right, right, Democrats have done a
really good job of making their platform just be opposition
to Trump and opposition to Republicans. Republicans are not as
good at that, and we're not going to win the
mid terms. You know, the magabase is not energized just
because we're not Democrats the same way that Democrats get
energized just because Democrats are not Donald Trump. And I
think you're right. Trump is not going to be on
the ballot in the midterms, and we need to do
a much better job of telling voters why they should care.
And it's not just we're not as crazy as Democrats.
It's here, here's the vision we have to offer the
American people, and it's not just Donald Trump being at
the top of the ticket, because that's not going to
work in these midterms. So, Eddie l and Matt Recipes,
thank you all so much for joining me today. It
was great chatting with you about the state of the
Union and I can't wait to have you back again soon.
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