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the Kylie Cast today, and that is with three of

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my Federalist colleagues, Matt Kittle, Eddie Scarry, and El Pernell,

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who are all here today to give their initial reactions

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to the state of the Union I'm so excited to

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hear their hot takes. So why don't we just kick

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this right off? I want everybody to give Trump's a

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State of the Union an initial grade and maybe know

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what your favorite moment or what you think was the

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most memorable point of the speech was Matt Kittle, why

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don't we kick it off with you?

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Speaker 2: I'm a tough grader. I always have been asked the

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kids in my house, but I would say an as

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I thought he did exceptionally well. Everybody's talking about the

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unprecedented length of the speech, and as a journalist covering

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the speech, I would say if he could keep that

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under two hours, that would be great. But I think

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he summed everything up that the message that he needed

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to get across. The most important salient thing that he

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said was when he turned to the hire Joint Session

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of Congress, pointed to the left side of the aisle

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and said, these people are crazy, because that is exactly

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what they are. And he did an excellent job of

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building the case for twenty twenty six and what the

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difference is between the two sides. And I'm not talking

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about Republicans and Democrats here, although Democrats have been co

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opted by the radical Marxist left, no doubt about it.

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What I'm talking about is the difference between sane, rational,

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reasonable and insane criminally insane at times. And I thought

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he just did a fantastic job over and over again

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making them have to stand by their insanity and showcasing

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that for all the world to see. I thought it

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was genius.

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Speaker 1: And speaking in the type of language that Americans can

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relate to and actually want to hear, which is just

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these people are crazy, Like who doesn't actually talk like

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that about Democrats? So very very relatable language from the

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president there.

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Speaker 3: How about you, Eddie, I think as I'd probably go

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about the same it was.

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Speaker 4: You know, it was long.

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Speaker 3: It was long, and I would say, really, if you

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are going to do a speech that long, He did

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it very well because I was pretty gripped the entire time.

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It hit a lot of subjects I wanted to hear,

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and most importantly, I would say, and I wrote about

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this at the Federal it's just using that opportunity to

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show the differences between the two parties.

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Speaker 4: Or who's in power and who's out of power.

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Speaker 3: And he did that over and over again in ways

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that were both entertaining but also very informative, I think,

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and I don't want to steal anyone's thunder here, but

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I know it was a very remarkable moment when he

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said something to the effect of I want you to

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stand up if you agree with me that the number

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one job of the American government is to protect its

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citizens versus protecting illegal aliens. And then he rightly points

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it out that not a single Democrat stood up for that.

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Those are the kind of moments I really enjoyed. As

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far as it being too long, I just think it

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was all a pretty good speech. I think even the

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last like twenty maybe fifteen twenty minutes, we're still good.

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It was just at that point you're kind of you're

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kind of slogging, So I would have probably cut it

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down a little bit. But even he himself, I liked

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where he actually made the point he said. What I

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really like about this is it gives us a moment

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to where the American people when you have every single

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broadcast network, every single cable news channel, pretty much every

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major streamer online streamer is going to be covering this,

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and you're going to see what the big differences are

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between us, the Republican Party, the Trump administration and the Democrats,

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And I think that was a really good, really good

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use of time. No matter who's president, I think that

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that's gonna that should be the way every single president

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treats these things.

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Speaker 5: Mm hmmmm, absolutely, how about you, l I was thinking

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as two and I went in with very low expectations,

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expecting it to be long, and I'm not sure what

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to expect, whether he was going to be able to

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keep them amental up. But sorry, my dog's sparking, but

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I was very pleasantly surprised. I think he did a

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really great job. I agree it was long, but he

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did a good job of projecting of making it an America.

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Speaker 1: Two point fifty themed State of the Union, making it.

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Speaker 5: Very patriotic, very raw, raw America. When the hockey team

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came in, it was amazing. Obviously, the moment that Eddie

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mentioned was like the standout moment of the night and

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the time, the moment that if if Republican campaign strategist

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are smart, they'll be blaring in television ads between now

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and November.

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Speaker 1: But the moment that made.

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Speaker 5: Me tear up was the moment when the National guardsman

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who had been shot in the head in DC, when

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they when they showed him with his family, he was smiling,

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the President surprised him with a purple heart, and just

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seeing him whole and recovering so well that that was

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really a sweet moment.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm, Yeah, I couldn't agree more. I think I'm

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maybe a little bit kinder of a greater than the

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rest of you. Y'all followed Matt kittles lead. But I'll

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great on a curve. And maybe it's just because of

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how bad Abigail Spaanberger's response was, But I'll give Trump

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an a just a straight a. And maybe it's also

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because I went in with the lowest of low expectations.

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I was so cynical about how this was going to go,

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partly because I just am kind of sick of Republicans

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and how useless they seem to be. Partly because State

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of the Unions just seem like a chance to raw raw,

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talk about all the things you've done, even if you

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know you haven't done that much. And I think I

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was just ready for, you know, a Pam Bondy flavored

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look at the s and P five hundred type of

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State of the Union, and instead it was so pro

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America raw raw. The dichonomy that Trump was able to

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draw between the Republican vision for the country and the

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Democrat lack of vision for the country was just so

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stark and so powerful. And I thought, I mean, I

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was dreading the two hour long speech because we knew

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it was going to be a long one, and I

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really thought it flew by, and I think maybe petered

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off at the end a little bit, but more so

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just because I was ready for bed, But in general,

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I mean, I was pretty tuned in for the whole

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speech was it was just excellent, and I think it

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just really put into stark contrast, you know, Thomas Soul's

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conflict divisions. It's so funny because Democrats and Republicans obviously

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have always had different ideas about where the country should

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be headed. But you know, it's like, Okay, we all

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want to fix the problem of homelessness, So what are

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the policies want to we want to see implemented to

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like bring people out of poverty or you know, we

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all see this issue over here, but we just disagree

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on how to get there. And it's so obvious now

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that we cannot agree on basic, basic goals for the

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future of the country. We were talking about pro America

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versus a Thai America. We're talking about pro borders versus

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anti borders, pro biology about the sexes, and truth about

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the sexes versus complete denial of reality. So we can't

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even agree on like basic truths. So these this conflict

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of visions is less about policy and more just about

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what do you even believe about what this country is

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and what it's for. And I think that that's why

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the moment where Trump said stand if you believe this

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was so powerful because it was just so obvious the

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disdain that half of the country has for law and

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order and for what actually matters in this country. And yeah,

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if Republicans are smart, they will clip that for so

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many ads going into the midterms, Kylie.

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Speaker 4: What's interesting about that? And it's something that I've bought

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for a.

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Speaker 3: Long time because back when I was growing up, I

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think probably a lot of you heard the same thing,

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was that Democrats and Republicans they want the same things,

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they just have different beliefs about how to get there.

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Speaker 4: That just is not true anymore. We just straight up

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do not want the same things anymore.

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Speaker 3: That's why I was saying, I think the President did

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such a good job of just using this as an

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opportunity when you have the biggest, the biggest audience possible,

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people who really don't even follow politics that much. They're

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not following the day to day like all of us are.

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They they got to see that there are real differences here.

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It's not small differences like it used to be. It's

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like the things that we fundamentally disagree on and that

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we want for this country and that we want for

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the succeeding generations.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget, folks, Abigail Spanburger is a moderate. I don't

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know if you knew that. She campaigned on that, and

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everybody on Tuesday night, all of the moderate media, corporate

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media sources out there, wanted to make sure that you

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knew that not only Abigail span Burger is a moderate,

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she is a rising star in the Democrat Party. Now

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take a look at her record and see if she

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should be the former, if she is the former, and

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if she should be the latter. And I think her

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speech her response the other night showed that she's not

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ready for prime time, although she is ready to destroy

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a state.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the Wizard of Oz paying no attention

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to the record. Behind the curtain at Gailsbamberg is such

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a fake moderate. Yes, yes, I think. Another thing that

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put these visions into stark contrast was I was dying

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at Fox panning over to transgender identifying Member of Congress

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Tim Slash Sarah McBride, right after Trump highlighted the story

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of Sage Blair, the former student in Virginia who was

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attempted to be trans by the school system and was

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then trafficked in all these things against the knowledge of her,

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of her legal guardians, and just this like, of course

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Democrats can't stand for this because they have kowtow to

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the most radical side of their party, which elects members

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of Congress who do not even not even uphold basic

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truths about the sexes. And then yeah, of course with immigration,

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we saw that dichotomy on display again. It was just

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over and over and over. Yeah, truly truly remarkable. I

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also loved, you know, everybody was already riding the raw

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rah Usa high of the men's hockey team winning the

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gold against Canada, our authoritarians to the north in the Olympics,

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and so it was just so cool to parade them

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out as one of the first parts of the speech, like,

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what a great way to get the energy going. It

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was just just so awesome. And then to see some

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Democrats not even able to stand for that, like a

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what a sad, miserable party they are. Lu actually wrote

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a great piece about Democrats anti Americanism, and specifically Rashida

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Talib and ilhan Omar, who you identified as a Democrat

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from Mogadishu. I almost cried a laughter when you wrote that.

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But maybe you can speak to some of their sour

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disposition during the speech as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So, I mean, like y'all touched on and the midterms

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and this year, both both parties are going to be

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trying to set up a contrast between the two. And

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Trump really did a good job in his whole speech

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setting up the conservative side of the country as the

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patriotic pro America. He wisely affiliated his State of Union

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address with the US hockey team, and he brought out

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these like war heroes, whether they were one hundred years

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old and fight in World War Two or young and

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just participated in the raid to get Nicholas Maduro. And

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so it was just this like great American moment. And

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then you had the Coastguard rescue. I think the rescue

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swimmer who rescued the Texas It was just like these sweet,

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Speaker 1: Patriotic moments.

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Speaker 5: You left this speech feeling like proud to be an American,

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which apparently is also a divisive political opinion. And then

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it really really neutered Spanberger's response for him to do that,

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because then she gets up and she's like, no, stop

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being patriotic, Like life is horrible under Trump. Remember you're

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supposed to be like under a Nazi regime and life

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is terrible and Trump is terrible, and how dare you

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enjoy this moment of patriotism? And so obviously like that's that.

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your life is horrible, and Trump did a really good

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job of making people feel like, no, life is like

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we're Americans. We're so happy to be Americans. And sure,

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obviously there's there's ways, there's lots of policies that could

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be passed to improve everybody's life, and that's, you know,

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a question to take up with the Senate Majority leader.

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Speaker 4: But at the end of the.

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Speaker 5: Day, it was a do love America? Are you proud

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to be an American? Versus does that make you mad?

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And Trump set that up really well, and Democrats totally

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played into his hand by by by showing their disappointment

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and frustration at that America.

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Speaker 2: First, we're reporters, and so we have to take this

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stuff and we have to check the sources, and the

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whole idea of if your mother tells you she loves you,

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get a second source kind of thing. All of that said,

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I'm watching that speech and I'm thinking what I have

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long thought, but what so many people on the left

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have told me, that if you're proud to be an American,

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you are a racist and a systemic system. And what

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Donald Trump has done, not just in two point zero,

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but what he has done throughout the political part of

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his career has reinforced told Americans you don't have to

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be ashamed of America. It's interesting to see the polling

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out there when you look at Republicans generally proud of

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their country and a third of Democrats proud of their country.

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That's sad. And I think a lot of that began

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with Baraco Mama's apology tour when he first got into office.

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You know, mister Nobel Peace Prize winner, Trump said, no,

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that's that's ridiculous. We are a great country, We're an

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exceptional country, and on this two hundred and fiftieth anniversary

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birthday of this country, we are going to remember that.

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Speaker 5: The only reason I was looking down is I was

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trying to find the numbers because there's this this Gallup

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poll that's been going around recently and by political party.

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in two thousand and one, ninety percent of Republicans and

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eighty seven percent of Democrats, pretty similar numbers, were proud

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of be an American. And now in twenty twenty five,

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Republicans are at ninety two, so they've gone up two points.

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Speaker 1: Democrats are at thirty six.

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Speaker 5: I think part of it, too, is definitely what you mentioned,

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but it's also you know, I wonder how what percent

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of those Democrats who are not proud of America just

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moved here from somewhere else like Elano.

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Speaker 1: Great point. Oh, that's a great point. I thought, another

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really potent part of the speech. And I didn't think

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to look back to see whether previous State of the

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Unions are more recent State of the Unions have have

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addressed this. But I loved Trump's comment on the like

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Christian revival we're experiencing, the way he highlighted Erica Kirk,

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but also just noted, you know that that aspect of

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what we've experienced in this country over the past year,

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because I know, you know, we've watched pole after poll

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of just decline and religiosity and church attendance among Americans

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that's been happening. You know, that's been a trend. That's

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that's old and I don't know what official polls say now,

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but I think anek totally we can probably all point

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to people we know and things that we've experienced in

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our own churches or in our own communities of just

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like a revival. It's it's undeniable. And that was just

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a really cool thing to include that. It wasn't just

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this like red, white, and blue America, you know, patriotic flair.

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It was also you know, even nodding to our first

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principles and nodding to the importance of America being a

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Christian nation and how we've experienced that over the past year.

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That I thought was a cool inclusion by Trump's team.

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Speaker 2: I agree. I think that that faith issue obviously has

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been intensifying. It's a you know, a reawakening that we've

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seen many of those in this country's history, because at

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its core it's still there. But sometimes we think, my God,

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given the state of events, we've lost that central focus

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in our lives. And I think so many people have

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this huge void and they're filling it with this garbage

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that is coming from the left, which makes the void

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even bigger and bigger, and it's I think that is

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a big part of what is ripping up this country today.

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But I think everything kind of changed. We had a

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pause and then we had reflection following the death of

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Charlie Kirk, the assassination, not just the death, I mean

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the cold blooded murder of a guy who is not

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only a voice, a young voice of conservative principles, he

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was an evangelizing force in this country. People were waking

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up not only to the politics of things, but to

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the religion of things, the faith matters that are so

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critical to this exceptional republic.

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Speaker 1: And maybe that speaks to some of the difference in

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pride in being in America or not between between the

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parties as well, where you know, for many Republicans, or

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specifically many conservative Americans, you know, their faith is foundational

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to their lives, they go to church, they are very

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involved in their communities, they have families, you know, and

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so when that is the foundation of your life, politics

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kind of takes a backburner. You don't fall for as

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much of the rage bait. It's just kind of like you,

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you know, why you believe what you do, and you

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know that faith infuses a lot of your political activism

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because it's not political activism so much as like worldview,

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religious activism, you know, to protect children from the abortion scourge,

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to protect children from transgenderism, to you know, to build

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strong families and strong communities. Whereas on the left when

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you see the breakdown of religiosity and this the ascendance

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of politics as religion. But it's just this religion of

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no grace, no forgiveness, uh, you know, just bitterness and anger.

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And I mean we saw this with the activists in

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Minneapolis most recently, just this flashpoint of just this angry,

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hate filled politics that just is so godless and you know,

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no wonder these people are not proud to be Americans

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because they don't they don't believe in the fundamental things

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that make this country great, which starts with faith, freedom, family,

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you know, these very basic foundational principles that so many

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conservatives do still believe it does.

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Speaker 6: New York City officially have their first free grocery store

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itself with the Mom Donnie administration. So who's really paying

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for this free grocery store, Whether it's happening in DC

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or down on Wall Street, it's affecting you financially.

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Speaker 4: Be informed.

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Speaker 1: Elle, you brought up Abigail Spanberger's response. That's a great

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great segue to talk about that. Did anybody stay awake

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for that? And what were how would you graid her response?

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What were your thoughts on that?

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Speaker 4: Eddie?

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Speaker 1: You want to kick us off?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I watched the rebuttal and what was the most striking

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thing about it?

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Speaker 4: I will say much of the.

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Speaker 3: Content I didn't even catch because it was we had

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just finished up the two hour speech. But what was

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very distracting about it was that and I know what

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they were doing. I appreciate the effort because you know

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when usually the rebuttal is, you know, somebody standing at

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a podium, they're by themselves in the room, and they

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give up after you know, watching an hour or whatever

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it is of the president with all these people a

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full room.

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Speaker 4: And they're clapping.

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Speaker 3: You have a lot of people clapping, and there's like

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a lot of you know, dynamics that play there. You

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then switch to the rebuttal and it's you know, just

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one person, and it often falls very flat. So what

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they tried to do in this case, which I don't

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know that I've ever seen this in a rebuttal speech before,

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was they had they put people in the room to

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make it look like she had an audience. But the

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reason why that didn't really work was because they were

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clearly told when there must have been a sign, like

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literally a sign that went up and said clap and

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then stopped.

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Speaker 4: Clapping, clap, stop.

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Speaker 3: Clapping, because it was so abrupt, they would immediately start clapping,

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and it was like it was so not spontaneous. They

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were clapping like in Unison and then immediately it would

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stop so that she could continue. So I found it

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very distracting, I really feel I mean, I don't I

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was almost going to say they could have picked somebody better,

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but I don't know who that would have been.

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Speaker 4: I think that the rebuttal that.

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Speaker 3: They gave, maybe that was maybe that was last year,

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the rebuttal to Trump's first address to the nation last

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year that was actually much more attractive and more appealing

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than this one was. I'm not sure what the calculus

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was was going with her.

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Speaker 4: Maybe, like Max Fell said.

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Speaker 3: There, they're really trying to sell the governor of Virginia

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as a as a moderate.

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Speaker 4: But I would just think they could have picked somebody else.

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Speaker 1: They would have picked Gavin Newsom, but he couldn't read,

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so they couldn't They couldn't go with him.

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Speaker 2: The problem that's that's going to dog him for a

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long time, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: Yep, Matt, what did you think?

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Speaker 2: I thought it was god awful? I agree with Eddie.

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I think it was choreographed and staged, like most of

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the performative nonsense on the left is, and it was

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just another you know, and I guess the only thing

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that was missing from that speech ultimately was I really

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thought at any time a grown man in a frog

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costume was going to pop on in because that's become

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the symbol of the resistance movement in America. But Elle

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talked about it before, and it's just it's so silly.

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But unfortunately I wrote about this earlier this week the

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night of of the State of the Union address. You

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have a media, a corporate media, the accomplice prov depress

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that have spent years just with negative coverage trying to

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beat down everything, even the accomplishments of the president. And

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there have been many you know, our friends over at

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the Media Research Center have been looking at this for

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a long time. His first one hundred days in office

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in Trump two point zero ninety two percent negative coverage.

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We've all reported on you know, the late night comedians

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so to speak. You know, there's they've had one one

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Republican or conservative guest in the year, you know, and

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so when you have all of that coordinated, and that's

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what it is, negative coverage of an administration. It was

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nice to see. And I understand why Trump wanted to

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take two plus hours, because he gets no time anywhere else.

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Had they had to give him this time, and he

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was able to just expertly describe the differences as we

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talked about before. And then when you got to Abigail Spanberger,

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after all all of this and the moments of pride

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in America and the moments of clear vision of where

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the country is going and where the president would like

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to take the country and those America First values, you

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got Abigail Spanberger, who you know, is the walking example

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of the Lefs dystopic look at America. It's vision, you know,

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of burning it down to recreate it in their own

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Marxist image. And I think that you know that that

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was a very powerful contrast.

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Speaker 1: Well, how about you?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought her speech was very wooden, and I'm

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not just saying that because her face didn't move, but

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it was very like you could tell it was kind

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of like a high schooler giving a speech in that

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she was very just reading off the teleprompter except for

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the one point where she lost her place and made

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it very obvious, like it's it's hard to follow Trump,

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right because he just comes in and he ad libs

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and he's got all this energy, and then she just

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came in and like I listened to the whole I

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did stay up and listen to the whole thing and

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then wrote afterwards. But then as I was writing, I

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went back to review the transcript of her speech, and

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I was, like, she said this, I don't remember her

480
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saying this, Like it was very easy to tune out,

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and maybe that's just because it was late night, but

482
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it was, Yeah, it was like it was. I appreciated

483
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that it was fairly short. I don't know how long

484
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they are on average, but it felt like it was

485
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over quickly, maybe because she wasn't putting a lot of

486
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energy into it, but it was a very like she

487
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,960
didn't make a ton of big missteps. But I thought

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it was kind of a wasted opportunity to in that

489
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she didn't put a lot Like you didn't really think

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that she believed what she was saying, and maybe that's

491
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just because she's not a very good public speaker. But

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it was very forgettable follow up.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, if you compare.

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Speaker 5: It to the alternative programming that was going on on

495
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the National Mall, it was it was certainly better than that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just kind of yeah, no kidding. I just

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00:27:15,079 --> 00:27:17,279
kind of thought it fell flat, like it had all

498
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of these issues with the please clap flavor, and yeah,

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00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,759
she's not a very good public speaker, and she was

500
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also talking quickly, so she kind of rushed through it

501
00:27:24,319 --> 00:27:26,319
and you know, lost her place or whatever. But it's

502
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also just like, lady, we just watched two hours of

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00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,000
like pro America programming where your party sat there like

504
00:27:34,079 --> 00:27:37,880
sour pusses and or like you know, launched expletives at

505
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the president. But then we're supposed to take your rebuttal

506
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,880
seriously as if like you are representing the real state

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of America. It's just like nobody's buying what you're selling.

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Kind of was was how how I took it, And

509
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at the same time, I felt very similarly where as

510
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I'm listening, I'm like, you know, when you read this city,

511
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,480
you read a paragraph and you're like, I have no

512
00:27:57,559 --> 00:27:59,200
idea what I just read because I was thinking about

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00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,000
something else. That's how I felt listening to Abigail Spamberger speech,

514
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,079
where it's like I'm watching your lips move, I'm hearing words,

515
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,960
but I'm not even listening because I'm so not buying

516
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,359
what you're selling. That's how I felt in this speech

517
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as me.

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Speaker 4: It's the problem that sorry, el just real quick.

519
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Speaker 3: It's just the problem that Democrats are in right now,

520
00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:19,759
and they have been in, and you.

521
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 4: Can look at Poles and you can see.

522
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Speaker 3: You can see that supposedly Trump is unpopular and his

523
00:28:24,839 --> 00:28:28,279
policies are unpopular. But Democrats and when they talk about

524
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:33,039
offering an alternative, they talk about, we have to offer

525
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,400
the alternative to Trump. What is the alternative to the

526
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major issues that were talked about during that.

527
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Speaker 4: State of the Union speech.

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Speaker 3: You either have an open border or it's closed. You

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have controlled immigration or you don't. You can you either

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00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,200
dump money into the economy, print money to the economy,

531
00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:50,720
raise inflation, or you don't.

532
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Speaker 4: You try to cut spending.

533
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Speaker 3: You're either tough on crime and you believe in locking

534
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up criminals or you don't.

535
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Speaker 4: So there is no there's no moderate middle ground on

536
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any of these issues. You either de poor people because

537
00:29:03,559 --> 00:29:05,559
they're here illegally or you.

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Speaker 3: Don't, or you don't believe in controlling immigration, you don't

539
00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:12,200
believe in borders. When Democrats keep saying we have to

540
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,759
alter offer an alternative, there is no alternative to the right,

541
00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:20,039
or there is, but it's not popular, then the alternative

542
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that they want to.

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Speaker 4: Offer is not popular. So when you have.

544
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Speaker 3: Someone who is tasked with getting up and offering the

545
00:29:25,839 --> 00:29:28,039
alternative is that they're going to do the complete opposite.

546
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And that's all they've got at this moment is doing

547
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:30,680
the complete opposite.

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Speaker 4: Americans are reminded.

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Speaker 3: They look at that and go, I don't I didn't

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like that when you did it the last time.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to do it again.

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Speaker 3: Well. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: It also just to build on that, it made it

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very obvious that Democrats not only do they not mind

555
00:29:45,319 --> 00:29:50,200
shamelessly lying there they're depending on, you know, the low

556
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:55,279
information voters whose ballots they can harvest, who are insulated

557
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,799
in the bubble of the corporate press and it's coverage.

558
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,359
But also they don't really mind if you know that,

559
00:30:02,119 --> 00:30:05,759
because Abigail Spanberger is you know, I'm a Virginia resident,

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00:30:05,799 --> 00:30:09,599
and every time she opened her mouth about affordability, it's laughable.

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I had a friend who's energy built went from like

562
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about one hundred dollars to four hundred in a month.

563
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Speaker 3: Oh my what?

564
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Speaker 5: And so like for her to get up there and

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talk about affordability and to say with a straight face,

566
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a very straight face, that you know, she's making things

567
00:30:24,839 --> 00:30:27,799
more affordable for Virginians like they're not even trying to

568
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be convincing. They're just counting on having a population that

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will believe every word they say.

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Speaker 2: And she had to follow not only Donald Trump, she

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had to follow the antics of her own party, which

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we're on full display. I think that nothing better encapsulated

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the Democrats that night. Then the photo that went with

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Elle's exceptional piece on the two different fictions of America.

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You see Rashida to leave just so just seething with anger,

576
00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:06,119
just you know, all of this hatred for this man,

577
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,880
and i ilhan Omar the same thing. They just look

578
00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:15,839
absolutely miserable and furious. Now, that's going to play well

579
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,799
with the we hate Trump and that's the only issue

580
00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:25,000
that we're dealing with. But for Middle America and a

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lot of independents who may have some misgivings about Donald

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00:31:29,559 --> 00:31:32,400
Trump here or there. I think that was an iconic

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image and everybody saw it, and it's really really telling.

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When it is paused, you can see that hatred.

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Speaker 4: M Well.

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Speaker 5: I think also like Democrats are they're they're for the midterms,

587
00:31:47,759 --> 00:31:50,599
there's they're running on hatred of Trump, and it's such

588
00:31:50,599 --> 00:31:52,559
a polarized environment right now that you can get a

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00:31:52,599 --> 00:31:54,640
lot of people to just be unhappy with how things

590
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,240
currently are. But it's a reminder that that when when

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voters see Democrats.

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Speaker 1: They don't like what they see.

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Speaker 5: When they see, you know, democrats cheering for trains and kids,

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or refusing to stand up for American citizens over I

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00:32:07,839 --> 00:32:13,000
legal aliens, or defending you know, violent murderers and rapists

596
00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:17,240
who have come here illegally, or you know, fighting against

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00:32:17,359 --> 00:32:21,240
law enforcement. Like when Democrats have airtime, generally they're doing

598
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,519
things that voters don't like. They don't have a positive vision,

599
00:32:23,559 --> 00:32:25,799
like Eddie said, to sell to the American people. So

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I think it was very smart for Trump to use

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some of his time at the City of the Union

602
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to kind of put the spotlight back on Democrats who

603
00:32:32,079 --> 00:32:33,960
have not had the spotlight as much since they're not

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in power.

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Speaker 4: And when do they have fun?

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Speaker 3: Like I would genuinely ask that when when is the

607
00:32:39,839 --> 00:32:43,680
last time I genuinely saw because I remember, I remember

608
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during the Obama years, there were times when they looked

609
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,880
like they were having fun, especially like Hollywood. There was

610
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this glamor around Obama. But even when if you go

611
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,599
to the not too distant past of Brad Summer and

612
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,200
you know, the vibes and the joy of Kamala that

613
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:04,559
was so fake and you can it is so obviously fake.

614
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And that is really the biggest problem that that party

615
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has right now. It's this fakery, this fraudulent because even

616
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:17,039
when they talk about you know, you watch someone like like, well,

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00:33:17,079 --> 00:33:19,519
first you have James Talerico of Texas running for US

618
00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:23,799
Senate in Texas, and he's he's selling this perverse obviously

619
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nine any way in line with Christianity, the biblical teaching,

620
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and yet he swears that it is.

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Speaker 4: And you just you don't have to be a very

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religious person. I'm not. I am a Christian, but not

623
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a very religious person. I look at.

624
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Speaker 3: Him swearing that Jesus and he was so indifferent to abortion.

625
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,759
Jesus would have been so indifferent to abortion. I'm like,

626
00:33:43,799 --> 00:33:47,119
that is just a blatant lie. You look at Gavin

627
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,519
Newsom now making the tours, you know, government of California,

628
00:33:50,599 --> 00:33:52,920
making tours in the podcast and trying to talk like

629
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,000
he's this this jock, this bro and it's you know,

630
00:33:56,119 --> 00:33:59,839
the selling the masculinity, and it just it reeks of fakery.

631
00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:02,839
And that's that's on the superficial level. But then you

632
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,960
look at the policy level, and it's the same thing

633
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,319
when they talk about.

634
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Speaker 4: As you were just saying, we were talking about affordability.

635
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 3: That's a nice issue for them right now because the

636
00:34:12,519 --> 00:34:17,199
public is understandably frustrated with prices and the stubborn high prices.

637
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Speaker 4: They're very frustrated.

638
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 3: But Democrats when they start talking about how well they've

639
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,119
got the answer to affordability, that it reeks of fake,

640
00:34:25,119 --> 00:34:27,119
because you know, they're the ones lest The President said

641
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:28,880
during the speech that was like, I think my favorite moment,

642
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,639
the funniest moment where he says, you guys did that,

643
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,800
You guys caused this problem, and you look right at

644
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:34,360
them and send that.

645
00:34:35,079 --> 00:34:36,159
Speaker 4: I think that.

646
00:34:36,119 --> 00:34:38,519
Speaker 3: People know that and just to use that and think

647
00:34:38,559 --> 00:34:40,519
that you can use it as like, you know, a

648
00:34:40,559 --> 00:34:42,920
political weapon. At the moment people are looking at it,

649
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,880
it's just fake. And the whole party just has such

650
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,880
a problem with fakery. They fake, they fake joy, which

651
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,960
is very very sad.

652
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Speaker 2: Well, wait a minute, don't you I remember vividly how

653
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,559
much joy tampon Tim Walls was having. Remember when he

654
00:34:58,599 --> 00:35:04,840
was loading his n right badly, Remember the flannel shirts. Yeah,

655
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,639
he was having all kinds of joy. Actually, the last

656
00:35:07,639 --> 00:35:11,920
time I remember joy with any Democrat. I remember it clearly.

657
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,400
It was Gavin Newsom back in the middle of COVID

658
00:35:15,519 --> 00:35:19,239
his lockdowns, and he was just having a delightful time

659
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at that restaurant. Wasn't he just laughing and enjoying while

660
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,880
he locked is the rest of his estate down? I

661
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,320
remember that was a joyful moment for those folks.

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Speaker 4: That's true. That's true.

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Speaker 3: I think that Democrats feel no joy greater than when

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they're and I mean this, when they are like crushing

665
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,400
the middle class, crushing the American independent spirit. They really do,

666
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,960
I think get something out of that.

667
00:35:42,039 --> 00:35:44,559
Speaker 1: The fakery is such a good point to Eddie because

668
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,519
and the fun like you could tell multiple times during

669
00:35:47,519 --> 00:35:50,320
Trump's speech, like he's having a good time and jd.

670
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,679
Vance is laughing behind him. It comes off as very authentic,

671
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,639
like when he's ad libbing. Maybe this wasn't an ad lib,

672
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,039
I forget, but just like when he makes the comment

673
00:35:57,039 --> 00:36:00,000
about is Nancy Pelosi here after he brings up Insider Tree,

674
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,360
like that was genuinely funny, and like Americans who are

675
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,239
tuned in at all are going to find that funny

676
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,840
because that's like, you know, a hilarious joke, non joke

677
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,800
from Trump. And you know, there were several other times

678
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,760
through his speech where he's like laughing through things, or

679
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:18,880
when he's joking with the US hockey goalie about like

680
00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:21,760
did you you know, did you do that move on purpose?

681
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,719
Or you know, did you get a little bit lucky?

682
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,960
You know, and he's it's like, this is genuinely fun.

683
00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:30,400
And also like when Trump honors the US hockey team,

684
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,679
you believe him. When he honors American heroes, you believe

685
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,320
him because this is the spirit of the conservative side

686
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,519
of the aisle. It's like if Gavin Newsome got up

687
00:36:39,519 --> 00:36:42,440
there and gave the exact same speech Trump did, you

688
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,039
would not believe a word of it because it's like, dude,

689
00:36:45,039 --> 00:36:48,159
you're the guy who cleans up your streets for jijingping,

690
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,679
but can't be bothered to clean them up for the

691
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:55,760
residents that elected you. Like this is it's just so unbelievable.

692
00:36:56,159 --> 00:36:59,760
When Democrats tried to do the authentic you know, pro America,

693
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,679
it's like, you don't care about this country, which is

694
00:37:02,679 --> 00:37:05,119
why you let its borders be overrun. But when Trump,

695
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,440
you know, does a pro America thing, and JD's standing

696
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,280
for it, and you know the Republicans are standing for

697
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,000
It's like, yeah, I believe you because because the policies

698
00:37:13,039 --> 00:37:16,639
that you support back this up. It's not fake, and

699
00:37:16,679 --> 00:37:19,119
the joy that you exude is not fake. Like I

700
00:37:19,159 --> 00:37:23,239
believe I'm buying what you're selling. Unlike Abigail Spamberger, completely

701
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,320
different vibe. L you brought up the propaganda press bubble

702
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,440
when you were talking about Abigail Spamburger. Let's talk media

703
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,920
coverage of the state of the union generally, because surely

704
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,800
there was nothing the media could disagree with or or

705
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,320
you know, propaganda is about. In response, what were some

706
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,400
of the most egregious responses you saw from members of

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00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:43,400
the corporate media.

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00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 3: This idea that Abigail spans but which that name is

709
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,840
just so insane to me. I hate saying that name.

710
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,920
But no, it's kind of a scary name. Yeah, it's

711
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,480
a very scary name. I think just this, And you know,

712
00:37:58,519 --> 00:38:00,599
you see this a lot with the media, whenever there

713
00:38:00,679 --> 00:38:03,559
is a some kind of rebuttal or counter to Trump,

714
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,960
this hyping up, this fake hyping up of this person

715
00:38:07,039 --> 00:38:08,639
as though they're the appealing.

716
00:38:08,679 --> 00:38:11,159
Speaker 4: The last time I think that was genuine.

717
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 3: In any way was the last rebuttal, I can't remember

718
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,360
her name. I think she's out of Michigan House representative now.

719
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,320
But she gave a pretty decent speech. But the thing

720
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,039
was that she didn't talk about any of the things

721
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,480
that Democrats were known for just one year prior. Nothing

722
00:38:26,519 --> 00:38:31,559
about affordability, nothing about the crime, nothing about the border.

723
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 4: Not talked about none of.

724
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,519
Speaker 3: Those things because Democrats were so unpopular in all of

725
00:38:35,559 --> 00:38:37,480
those things. So when you had the media come out

726
00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:39,440
and say, oh, that was actually a pretty decent speech,

727
00:38:39,639 --> 00:38:41,000
I think that they were right about that.

728
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,519
Speaker 4: But in this case, no, they're.

729
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 3: Just more fakery of like, oh, yeah, that's that moderate

730
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,840
who's shown what it's like to win a swing state.

731
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,559
Virginia's not really a swing state anymore, but for Democrats

732
00:38:51,599 --> 00:38:52,639
who win a statewide election.

733
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 4: I saw a lot of that after the rebuttal.

734
00:38:57,559 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: So I have two favorites.

735
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 5: One was the Washington which said that Trump's speech took

736
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,280
a darker turn when he asked Democrats if they would

737
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:11,039
stand to agree with the statement that they should protect

738
00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:15,280
American citizens aliens that to the Washington Post, that was

739
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,440
a very dark moment, even though that's a sentiment that

740
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,360
you know, radical, right wingers like former President Jimmy Carter

741
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,760
have said as much in their own speeches. So that

742
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,719
was one favorite. And then another favorite was the New

743
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,199
York Times. So they took this quote of Trump's from

744
00:39:32,199 --> 00:39:36,320
the speech. Trump said, we are deporting illegal alien criminals

745
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,480
from our country at record numbers, and we're getting them

746
00:39:39,519 --> 00:39:44,199
the hell out of here fast. That's a very true statement. Like,

747
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,239
no one can disagree with that, except for the New

748
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,039
York Times, which says that that claim is exaggerated. And

749
00:39:50,119 --> 00:39:53,519
their reasoning for that is they say, the majority of

750
00:39:53,559 --> 00:39:56,960
people detained by immigration officials do not have criminal convictions,

751
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,079
and by criminal convictions they mean convictions crimes other than

752
00:40:01,199 --> 00:40:03,760
crossing the border illegally. But it was still funny because

753
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,840
under that then they put a graph and it compares

754
00:40:06,119 --> 00:40:09,320
the deportations under Trump and the deportations under Biden, and

755
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,400
Trump was still deporting more criminals, still deporting criminals and

756
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,679
record numbers. He's just also deporting people who have committed

757
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,039
the crime of crossing the border illegally at record numbers.

758
00:40:19,039 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 2: Two.

759
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,599
Speaker 5: But the New York Times decided to fact check that

760
00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:24,760
with a statement that did not contradict the statement that

761
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:25,760
Trump mate, and that was what.

762
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 3: There was also this weird, trifling one that I saw

763
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,000
in CNN with their little nerd fact checker named Daniel Dale,

764
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,679
who there was a part in the speech where and

765
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,360
I mean I thought it was kind of I didn't

766
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,039
know if I was learning new information or what or

767
00:40:40,039 --> 00:40:41,960
where Trump said in his speech to he referred to

768
00:40:42,639 --> 00:40:44,960
the young woman tragic story of the young woman in

769
00:40:45,079 --> 00:40:47,480
Charlotte who was stabbed in the knack on the bus

770
00:40:47,519 --> 00:40:50,800
from behind. That's a story about crime, as we all know,

771
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,480
and how in the permissive nature of Democrats with crime.

772
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:55,639
Speaker 4: Very important point to make.

773
00:40:56,239 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 3: The President did, for some reason claim that the attacker

774
00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:03,760
was let in through open borders under wide An administration.

775
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,360
I don't know that there's any proof of that, but

776
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,639
that CNN decided to bring in their little nerd, Daniel

777
00:41:09,679 --> 00:41:11,679
Dale to fact check that and call it a lie

778
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,039
and say that, well, there's absolutely no proof that this

779
00:41:14,079 --> 00:41:14,599
guy was.

780
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:15,559
Speaker 4: An illegal alien.

781
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 3: Talk about missing the point, missing the point of why

782
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,159
he even told that story. So, yeah, that was just

783
00:41:23,199 --> 00:41:25,480
one of those trifling things that the media is very

784
00:41:25,559 --> 00:41:26,800
very good at doing these days.

785
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: Well, and that's missing, missing the point is exactly what

786
00:41:30,519 --> 00:41:32,719
they do. Yeah, So over and over again. I'm sorry,

787
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:33,280
I'll go ahead.

788
00:41:33,559 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm sorry.

789
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,159
Speaker 5: I was just going to say that pointing out that

790
00:41:36,159 --> 00:41:39,920
that guy was a homegrown product of Democrat policies, is

791
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:40,239
not you.

792
00:41:42,199 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. The worst one that I saw, speaking of

793
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,920
trifling was the Associated Press. And if you are looking

794
00:41:52,119 --> 00:41:57,559
for some integrity from fact checking, you will not look

795
00:41:57,599 --> 00:42:01,280
at the Associated Press. But what they said Trump was

796
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:07,480
lying when he said the revolution of seventeen seventy six

797
00:42:07,679 --> 00:42:11,239
continues today. And they said, I'm not giving you. They

798
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,760
said something to the effect that, no, the Revolutionary War

799
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,559
ended in the seventeen hundred.

800
00:42:18,639 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 3: It was.

801
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:23,639
Speaker 2: It was so obtuse it was. You would have to

802
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:31,840
be lebottomized to think that that was what Trump was saying,

803
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:37,320
that the Revolutionary War continued to this day. He's talking about, obviously,

804
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,360
the two hundred and fiftieth birthday of the United States

805
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:46,480
of America, and that revolutionary spirit that continues in a

806
00:42:46,639 --> 00:42:53,840
land that is marked by independent, self governing, self governing individuals,

807
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,159
or at least it was until the leviathan of the

808
00:42:57,199 --> 00:43:02,000
administrative state and big government took over. But yeah, that's

809
00:43:02,039 --> 00:43:06,800
the sort of nonsense that we deal with every day.

810
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,119
And I think the Federalist does a great job of

811
00:43:09,199 --> 00:43:13,039
pointing that out to anybody who wants to see it.

812
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: That's so embarrassing. Imagine being that dense and obtuse that

813
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,119
that's your that's your big fact check.

814
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 4: Wow.

815
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: I also thought there seemed to be a lot of

816
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:28,239
obfuscation of the Democrats sitting down for a lot of

817
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,519
parts of the speech. And I know, you know, it's

818
00:43:30,519 --> 00:43:32,639
hard to know how much of that is intentional when

819
00:43:32,639 --> 00:43:34,800
it comes to the camera angles, because you know, a

820
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,480
lot of these are our cameras that are just in

821
00:43:36,519 --> 00:43:39,440
the house gallery, and you know, I doubt that a

822
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,960
lot of what you're seeing is like intentionally hiding the

823
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,719
Democrats sitting. But in the in the coverage of it,

824
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,000
you certainly saw I think from the Washington Post, I

825
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,840
forget the roundup of of of outlets that just you know,

826
00:43:52,119 --> 00:43:56,039
breezed past the fact that Democrats stayed seated and refused

827
00:43:56,119 --> 00:43:59,960
to support these eighty twenty things like securing the Moore

828
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,719
and like promoting you know US team sports and you know,

829
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,760
law in order, crime whatever whatever it.

830
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,639
Speaker 3: Just and now that you bring that up, because it's

831
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,199
making me remember what it was like under the first

832
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,280
term and whenever we had a State of the Union

833
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,239
was Trump giving and the Democrat Party was a lot

834
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:24,400
more cohesive and therefore stronger, I would say, because they

835
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,920
were all just really united against getting Trump out office

836
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,920
because they knew that the next election was coming around.

837
00:44:29,639 --> 00:44:31,119
But if you look at the difference in the way

838
00:44:31,159 --> 00:44:34,559
that the media treated it, it was very much to

839
00:44:34,679 --> 00:44:38,320
emphasize what Democrats were doing, how were they responding. You

840
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,119
might remember there was that one State of the Union

841
00:44:40,119 --> 00:44:43,239
where basically all the women wore white that I think

842
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,360
had something to do with abortion or something, But you know,

843
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,480
it was these dramatic displays and the media talking about

844
00:44:49,639 --> 00:44:52,079
you know, the media really branded it and hyped it

845
00:44:52,159 --> 00:44:54,840
up as like this is the resistance, this was the

846
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,760
resistance to Trump, and they really focus on it this time.

847
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,960
To your point, you didn't see a lot of that.

848
00:45:01,079 --> 00:45:04,599
You didn't see because there were some pretty hysterical moments

849
00:45:04,639 --> 00:45:10,840
with Rashida Talib chanting KKK when everyone else was yelling USA,

850
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,280
and then you had Johan Omar looking every bit as

851
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,360
crazy as she is, screaming out you know, we just

852
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,880
got off looking at just seeing how corrupt the Somali

853
00:45:22,639 --> 00:45:26,559
community is in her state, and then to see her

854
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,559
like kind of just fulfilling this this negative stereoside of

855
00:45:31,079 --> 00:45:32,159
like where she's.

856
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 4: From and everything. It was just a really bad look.

857
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 3: And I think that there's a lot to be said

858
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,679
about the media saying let's not talk about that, just

859
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,119
how how repulsive and gross that side was, Like we're

860
00:45:43,119 --> 00:45:44,559
gonna let's talk about other things.

861
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:48,079
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the dark turn that Trump speech show. Right, Yeah,

862
00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:50,039
exactly exactly, Kylie.

863
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,079
Speaker 5: You said you didn't think the camera angles was deliberate,

864
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:55,679
and I had to disagree. I was watching it on

865
00:45:55,840 --> 00:46:00,280
NBC and when they showed Timyo, I say, I was like, okay,

866
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,079
are the Democrats standing up? Because you know they're not

867
00:46:02,119 --> 00:46:04,320
going to stand up for anything that looks good for Trump,

868
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,119
And my screen is like, they wouldn't show it, so

869
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,559
I don't. I'm not sure if there were some networks

870
00:46:10,599 --> 00:46:12,039
that were in the pool or if it was all

871
00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:13,760
one pool camp. I think I had different angles than

872
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,760
the people that were watching on c SPAN, but I

873
00:46:16,199 --> 00:46:19,239
do think some you know, there was so much, so

874
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,239
many times that the camera angles were suspiciously avoiding showing

875
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,079
the Democrat pout session that I did wonder if it

876
00:46:26,119 --> 00:46:26,679
was deliberate.

877
00:46:27,199 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did have the same questions. Actually, I'm not

878
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,960
saying that it was. It definitely was not deliberate. I'm

879
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,079
just saying, like, I don't know, it's hard to know

880
00:46:34,159 --> 00:46:36,079
what exactly is happening with the camera angles because I

881
00:46:36,079 --> 00:46:38,079
don't know where everyone's feed was coming from. But I

882
00:46:38,119 --> 00:46:41,400
did notice too. I was watching on CBS, and you know,

883
00:46:41,639 --> 00:46:43,800
people on our team would be asking, what are the

884
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,679
Democrats doing right now? And I'm like, I have no

885
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,719
idea because uh, you know, we're only getting or only

886
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,800
getting one angle, and you know, it always seemed to

887
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,519
be pointed at either Trump or the subject of who

888
00:46:55,519 --> 00:46:58,159
Trump was talking about. There was just really never any

889
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,719
panning to the floor the gallery at all. So it

890
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,480
was just really hard to tell. But I would not

891
00:47:03,559 --> 00:47:07,719
I certainly wouldn't put past the media to only zero

892
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,880
one on those angles to hide and back that Democrats

893
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,000
were sitting. I mean, of course not. We don't hate

894
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,760
the media enough. These people are corrupt in every way

895
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,800
imaginable and then some so, so yeah, I'm completely with you.

896
00:47:18,079 --> 00:47:20,079
I think a lot of it was probably intentional too,

897
00:47:20,119 --> 00:47:23,079
but it's just it's hard, it's hard to describe motive

898
00:47:23,079 --> 00:47:25,320
because I just I don't know where they're getting their feed,

899
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,400
but yeah, could not agree more. All right, we only

900
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,360
have a few minutes left here. We lost Matt Kittle

901
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,960
who's having internet issues, so rest in peace. Matt will

902
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,360
catch you next time. But before we go, I want

903
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,280
to talk about the midterms and what Republicans need to do,

904
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,519
because it's it's great to finish a Trump's speech and

905
00:47:39,519 --> 00:47:42,599
feel energized and feel like, yeah, he loves America. Republicans

906
00:47:42,639 --> 00:47:44,360
are on the right track. But when you think about

907
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,880
a lot of the successes that Trump touted during his speech,

908
00:47:47,039 --> 00:47:49,039
many of them come down to executive orders, and he's

909
00:47:49,119 --> 00:47:50,920
kind of, you know, he's kind of a one man

910
00:47:51,039 --> 00:47:52,880
show in many ways. He and a few of his

911
00:47:53,039 --> 00:47:55,519
cabinet members who are really getting things done. And then

912
00:47:55,519 --> 00:47:58,239
you look at the dysfunctional GOP Congress, who appears to

913
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,880
be just lazy, sitting on their hands, and we're just

914
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,719
likeable of incapable of getting anything done. There's no grit,

915
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:10,639
there's no stamina, there's no will to win, apparently among Republicans,

916
00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:14,000
and so you know, Trump's speech would be great if

917
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,920
we were having the midterms tomorrow, but we're not. We've

918
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:20,239
got eight months. So what in your mind do Republicans

919
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,719
need to do to energize voters before the midterms. And

920
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,880
I think the Save Act, the Save America Act, has

921
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,199
a lot to do with this. But how can Republicans

922
00:48:29,199 --> 00:48:31,039
get that done? And what else can they do to

923
00:48:31,199 --> 00:48:33,480
keep the base energized for the next eight months.

924
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, So, I mean Trump gave people a lot of

925
00:48:35,599 --> 00:48:38,559
reasons to vote for him on Tuesday, but at the

926
00:48:38,639 --> 00:48:40,760
end of the day, he's not on the ballot this November,

927
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,519
He's not going to be on the ballot again. And

928
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:47,119
so Republicans, fundamentally, they just need to give people a

929
00:48:47,159 --> 00:48:47,639
reason to.

930
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: Vote for them, to turn out for them.

931
00:48:50,679 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 5: I think Republicans need to be serious about building their

932
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,519
ground game. There was a big ground game in twenty

933
00:48:57,559 --> 00:49:00,079
twenty four. A lot of that was due to to

934
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,119
Charlie Kirk and TPUSA. They I haven't heard a lot

935
00:49:04,159 --> 00:49:06,039
about their ground game. I'm not seeing a lot right

936
00:49:06,039 --> 00:49:10,840
now in Virginia with this referendum on Democrats jeerrymandering coming

937
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,000
up in April, and so I think Republicans need to

938
00:49:14,039 --> 00:49:16,960
really get as serious about ground game as they were

939
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,159
in twenty twenty four and keep building that and not

940
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,000
wait until a month before the election to start thinking

941
00:49:23,079 --> 00:49:26,360
about ballot chasing if they want to win. And then yeah,

942
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,760
I mean, they just they need to pass the Save

943
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:34,199
America Act, that's a flagship piece of legislation, and generally

944
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:40,559
like pass more of Trump's nominees. They're just giving the

945
00:49:40,599 --> 00:49:43,199
impression to Americans that they're not working very hard. The

946
00:49:43,599 --> 00:49:46,519
hardest I think they have appeared to work was to

947
00:49:47,519 --> 00:49:51,199
potentially extend the Obamacare subsidies, and while that fell through,

948
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,960
like they gave the appearance that they were working very hard,

949
00:49:54,079 --> 00:49:57,960
some of them extend to bail out Obamacare. So I

950
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,119
want to see that level of effort coming to thing

951
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,320
that I as a voter care about, that other voters

952
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:02,840
care about too.

953
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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of time.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of time between here and the election,

955
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but it does go by very very fast. I think

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that the best thing for Republicans to do, if they're

957
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going to in any way mitigate their losses in the midterm,

958
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is just they have to wake up and realize that

959
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it's coming. It's coming whether they like it or not,

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and they might as well shoot for the stars while

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they've got the time. And I understand the pressures of

962
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you know, campaigning and you're trying to save your seat

963
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and you don't want to do anything that's going to

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upset anybody.

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Speaker 4: But it's coming whether they like it or not.

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Speaker 3: And Trump, like we were just talking about, that's one guy.

967
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You can't hang up everything on him. In some ways,

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I think that he kind of brings this on himself

969
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and just that he likes doing things on his own.

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Speaker 4: He's a business guy.

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Speaker 3: You make decisions, you run a company, You make the decision,

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and then things just start moving.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't really work that way in government.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, Republicans in Congress that that's

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their own branch of government. They have agency. They can

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say all right, well let's get moving. Instead, you get

977
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quotes all the time where they say, well, the President's

978
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,119
gonna have to get involved in this, but we're gonna

979
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have to hear from the president on this. No, your Congress,

980
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,400
you have your own leader there, you have the House Speaker,

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you have the setate majority.

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Speaker 4: It's time to just get moving. You're gonna have to

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do the Save Act. You're gonna you can introduce.

984
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Speaker 3: Any number of bills on any number of topics, and

985
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that doesn't mean they're going to have to go through,

986
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but people are gonna have to see, Okay, those are

987
00:51:25,679 --> 00:51:28,920
your priorities, that's the Republican priorities. What's the Democrat priority,

988
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and what's what's the alternative? What is it that they'd

989
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rather focus on?

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Speaker 4: What is it? What is it that that aligns with

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my views?

992
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Speaker 3: And if Republicans can't even do that, then they're looking

993
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:39,840
at a really big.

994
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Speaker 4: Mess in November. So I think the best thing they

995
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:43,800
can do is again.

996
00:51:43,679 --> 00:51:47,119
Speaker 3: Just wake up and start start moving, Start moving bills,

997
00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:50,920
start introducing legislation, and at a minimum, you can get

998
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,559
you can show the contrast and say Democrats won't even

999
00:51:53,599 --> 00:51:56,599
support this, they won't support voter ID, they won't support

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more money for for for the Department of Homeland Security.

1001
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They're keeping people out of TSA, they're they're slowing down

1002
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the airports that they're putting the country at risk.

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Speaker 4: You know, do that over and over again.

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Speaker 3: And at least people get to see that there is

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a real difference heading into November.

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Speaker 1: I yes, make Democrats defend their opposition to voter ID

1007
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in these other measures, implement like get on the talking filibuster,

1008
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get these people on the record, make them explain their vote,

1009
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all of these procedural maneuvers from Republicans, John Thune saying, oh,

1010
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we're going to get we're going to get a vote

1011
00:52:32,639 --> 00:52:35,239
on this or you know whatever, rather than rather than

1012
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,079
saying we're going to pass this or we're going to

1013
00:52:37,639 --> 00:52:40,280
we're going to use the talking filibuster. It's just it's

1014
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so empty.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: It's like, when it comes to Republicans, what are you expecting,

1017
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vibes white Papers essays when it comes to Trump, No,

1018
00:52:47,639 --> 00:52:50,320
when it comes to Congress, yes, that's exactly what we're expecting.

1019
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,760
And voters need to see more than that. Ella cut

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you off.

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Speaker 4: Oh you're good.

1022
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Speaker 5: I was just going to say that point about forcing

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Democrats to vote against some thing.

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Speaker 1: I think that's really important.

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Speaker 5: Going back to what we were talking about with the

1026
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state of the Union was there hasn't been a lot

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of spotlight on Democrats and they're insanity, and so if

1028
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you have them voting against, you give them the opportunity

1029
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to vote for, they will inevitably vote against these eighty

1030
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twenty issues. I think that's a strategy that I'm really

1031
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surprised that the Republicans have not taken more advantage.

1032
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Speaker 1: Of Democrat They should right, right, Democrats have done a

1033
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really good job of making their platform just be opposition

1034
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to Trump and opposition to Republicans. Republicans are not as

1035
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good at that, and we're not going to win the

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mid terms. You know, the magabase is not energized just

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because we're not Democrats the same way that Democrats get

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energized just because Democrats are not Donald Trump. And I

1039
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think you're right. Trump is not going to be on

1040
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the ballot in the midterms, and we need to do

1041
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a much better job of telling voters why they should care.

1042
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And it's not just we're not as crazy as Democrats.

1043
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It's here, here's the vision we have to offer the

1044
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American people, and it's not just Donald Trump being at

1045
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the top of the ticket, because that's not going to

1046
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work in these midterms. So, Eddie l and Matt Recipes,

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thank you all so much for joining me today. It

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was great chatting with you about the state of the

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Union and I can't wait to have you back again soon.

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