Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice
mix in some vodka. Colored a podcast from the Mac
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I'll get ready for this. I'm sorry, welcome, get ready
for this. Laura's here, this is this could be, this
could be crazy.
Speaker 2: Just last night.
Speaker 1: Well, sorry, Benny, Sorry? What?
Speaker 2: Sorry? Vinny?
Speaker 1: Oh Vinnie?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh? Why you don't think Vinnie likes you?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: I don't know. My college roommate's name was Bennie b
I n n y because we had His last name
was ben Zach. So anytime I hear Vinnie, I always
think of my I always think of Bennie.
Speaker 2: I don't know. He just likes to pick on me.
It's not like I read the comments.
Speaker 1: Yes you do. No, I have to.
Speaker 2: I have because that's why I know that Kim. I
don't know her last name. Okay, but Kim is always
like I like Mark Moore. That's what I'm like me too.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that this is going on.
Speaker 2: I think it's funny.
Speaker 1: That hurts, that's nice, you know, I don't I understand. Wow,
I think I mean.
Speaker 2: No, because it's two completely different people.
Speaker 1: I know what you mean, but it also is one
of those things that kind of sort of stays with
you a little bit, doesn't it a little bit? Like
you remember, look, look, lord, my entire life has been
this right. The reason I started the podcast is because
I didn't know what else to fucking do when my
world imploded on itself. So I go, all right, we'll
try this. But those comments, I'm not going to say
that they sting. I know exactly what you're saying, and
it's very strange because I almost feel like you can't
verbalize it. I'm aware of it. It doesn't bother me,
but I'm aware of it. Yeah, I'm aware.
Speaker 2: Like I when you do a post, I always click
on to see what clip you posted, and so then
you just see like the top comments pop up, and
so that's where I see them. But there was one
time somebody picked on me for saying for how much
I say like, and I know I did, and now.
Speaker 1: I have replied, why would you not?
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, I listened to it,
and now I can't even stand listening to it. I
don't care. But then there was someone else who said, like,
how big my eyes are.
Speaker 1: Well, that's actually a compliment, because the worst thing to
me is to have like a really just like a
big nose, a big nose like me. I got a
fucking island in the middle of my face. But the
rest of it, that's fine. I don't care. The guys
are nice, that's fine.
Speaker 2: I actually and I've talked to you about some ideas
for the podcast. I appreciate when people are more interactive.
I enjoy when I see like a little pop up
in somebody comment something, yes, whether it's about me or
completely different.
Speaker 1: Well, probably the weakest area of the podcast would be
because I focus so much in the beginning on making it.
I didn't want to do right, so I just did
what I did on the radio, but it was all audio.
And what I'm learning is that so much a podcast
is video. We have the cameras and we have the lights,
and we've done all that stuff, but to make that
bigger in some way, and I haven't been able to
do that. Though those numbers are like non existent compared
to the download numbers. They're light night and day. And
I don't even like to talk about it because people.
Speaker 2: Well, I listened to so many podcasts. I love listening
to podcast throughout my days. And there is one specific
podcast that I listened to when whenever it's like send
us an email or if they do a post and
it's a questionnaire or a poll, like, I love participating
for some reason. Yeah, it makes me feel more connected.
Speaker 1: To who it does. And that's and that's the big thing, right,
And so that was always the idea with our show,
I always believed and I have no idea why. And
this is so not anything I expected to talk about,
But during COVID, everybody's day got shifted. Right. You were
working from home, so you probably didn't start. You had
to be at work by eight o'clock or whatever. Now
it's nine, or you were leaving at eight and you
listen to the radio whatever, So now more people I
was doing a mid day talk show. A mid day
talk show in a market this size is unheard of
because we don't have the long commute, the long commutes
in New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, Dallas. You would
have midday talk shows there because that's where people listen
to long form radio are. During COVID, those are numbers
shot through the fucking roof. Really yeah, I had like
all kinds of corporate guys going, hey, congrats, elations whatever, bullshit,
you know what I mean. And I knew what it was,
but it was because the show was good. It was
like really good. But people during the day, what are
you doing? I'm running here, I'm running there. I got
this now I'm stuck. And they really liked it. And
that's where I go. Yeah, And it was like friends
on the radio and people you could relate to, and
so I know exactly what you're saying. And that's what
podcasts have become for so many people, is something that
I can relate to. I said last night on the podcast.
There were people who have said to me they hate
podcasts like mine because it's not like if someone if
you tell somebody I'm doing a podcast, what's it about? Okay,
so a lot of them are niche right, I'm true crime,
American history, I'm dinosaurs whatever. Yeah, this is I don't
fucking know.
Speaker 2: I mean, people ask me like, how do you prepare?
Speaker 1: You don't I say, I don't show it, don't you
show up? And I like it that way and I
did all my radio shows pretty much that way. More were,
and I guess it's bad because, like, I should probably
send out an email, and if I had more time
and more stuff, I would send it to more people
and say, hey, man, these are the things we're gonna
hit on. But most of the time I like the
true reaction, and that's why this will be bad. I
always enjoyed smart people, and I know that sounds a
little silly, but smart smart people can just keep up
with you. Laura has an opinion on this. Laura has this.
I know this, and once I get to know you,
I know what buttons I can push and not push,
and I can make it look like I'm doing nothing.
I'm just sitting here. I may talk the least I
could give a shit. It's not like my ego. I
don't care, but I know when I'm setting up.
Speaker 2: I had a client this week seriously say you don't
hold back on that podcast, and I was like, no,
I tell it like it is. She has a friend
who wants to start a podcast. This friend is going
through a divorce. This friend had an open marriage and
a lot wants to spill the tea on her ex husband.
Speaker 1: Can we get her in?
Speaker 2: She does not live around here, she's in DC.
Speaker 1: Who gives a ship? I don't eat her in I
can send her a link.
Speaker 2: I probably could, because she.
Speaker 1: Even help her. I can help her do.
Speaker 2: So I'll tell you who it is if air. But
this friend is concerned about what she'll put out there
for her kids to listen to.
Speaker 1: Okay, So that's that's a really big thing. Because I
was even gonna go a little bit there with you
tonight because you're very open, and I was going to play.
I sat today, I go, oh, it's just going to
be me and Laura because apparently there's a there is
there a rift or a tiff that I'm not aware of. No,
I'm dead serious. No, I'm dead serious. So I didn't
know it was going to be doing me. I thought
there was somebody else. But I wrote would you rather?
Would you rather? For Laura? Like? Yeah, is this inspired.
Speaker 2: By our text messages?
Speaker 1: Of course it is, of course it is. But we're
all over the place here, And I apologize because let
me give a little backstory here, a little bit of backstory. Uh,
so you know exactly where I am at this moment.
I it's been an I have a lot. Everybody has
a lot. Everybody has a lot. I don't even like
saying that I have a lot, but there's been a
lot of shit going on. I have a moving in
a couple of days, not far in the same I
like where I live.
Speaker 2: So still the most stressful event you'd go through in life.
Speaker 1: Well, Laura, I'm not even prepared for it. Financially. Things
are up and down and all over the place. And
I've got hey, can I get new sneakers? And can
I this? And I have food and I don't even
know and I last night. When I get stressed out,
I don't reach for the bottle. I reach for sugar.
And I used to go when my kids were little.
I lived a mile from what was a Right Aid
and now it's a Walgreens or whatever, and I would
go buy the pound bag aminems or the big bag aminems.
I think it was a pound. I think it was
sixteen ounces AM and ms. I would practically finish that
in the mile home. So I was fucked hot. Yes,
it starts to taste bad. It starts to taste bad.
You start to like, eh, it's not good. And I
would get that sugar high and then I would crash hard.
And sometimes I'd just like pass out with the kids
climbing all over me. Last night, my son and I
had a rough night before it came in here to
do the podcast. And on the way home, I'm like,
you know what I'm going. And I went to Wegmans
and I bought cookies with Reese's Pieces in them, so
it was like it was chocolate chips and the Reese's
Pieces cups. I ate practically the entire box. And then
I bought him doritos. I practically ate all of that.
I ate. He has white bread. I never eat the
white bread. I always eat something else. I put I smear,
you know, like natural peanut butter on two pieces of
white bread, full of them in half. Eight those. Then
a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Wait, I'm not done.
Oh no, I'm a fucking.
Speaker 2: Peanut butter sandwich. Peanut butter and jelly sandy.
Speaker 1: Peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Then uh and thedas I had,
and I think there was something else in there. I'm
not remembering right now. And I have not eaten today
because I go I can't eat for like three days.
I gotta get this out of my system. And on
the way here, I'm like, it was another stressful day.
I'm getting punched. It feels like I always equate everything that,
like fighting and boxing. It's kind of dumb. But I
was like, god, man, I'm taking a couple of hits today.
I think it's just me and Laura and I'm gonna
buy a bottle of wine. It's already fucking empty. Laura
had one. Laura had one, Yeah, and I wish I
could go get another bottle. I could just go and
drink all day? Can we is there? Like? Can you
can you instacart wine? Shut up?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: This is real, Yeah you can.
Speaker 2: I actually instacart from Century a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But because if I want like a whole.
Speaker 1: But you need you can't do just a bottle?
Speaker 2: Oh you normally can. I'll look it up.
Speaker 1: I need a case of one. Well anyway, so that
that's where I was at, and I don't know why
today I was like, I got a drink. I ran home,
took my son, said to him, listen, man, I got
you know podcast stuff. Some people have been sending me
things going, hey, it's like wizardry. I know Doug was
in here there on Saturday because he took a picture
and posted it, and we didn't put the episode out
till Tuesday, but I put out the video then yeah
as well, and it all worked out. But the fact
that Kevin is not here tonight, let's get into that
for just a moment.
Speaker 2: By the way, I could instac her, but the earliest
that would get here is eight fifteen pm. Yeah, we
don't want so we need a bottle now. Well, if
Kevin wants to suck up, he cannot. So okay, we
know that Kevin and I have have this love hate
relationship where he's one of my dearest people, but that
we fuck with each other hard, you know. So leading
up to the birthday party, he was all in. Then
a few days before he said that he didn't know
if he'd be able to make it because of Tyler's
golf sectional. Well, I'm under the assumption that golf sectionals
is he's going and he's watching Tyler hit all eighteen holes.
He's there walking along the course like you're at the
fucking Masters, And I was like, how long does that take?
My party starts at four, you know. So then he
texts while at the party and you know, I'm not
going to make it, and then like on the following Monday.
Speaker 1: But hang on at that point, but you're someone understanding,
you go.
Speaker 2: So fucking around with him, like on Facebook, Matt had
done this post, and that's when I, you know, poked
the baron. I was like, well, Matt, we don't need
as much food. Then if Kevin's not or I told Kevin, hey,
isn't salm in town Send, salmon your place. He's over eighteen,
So you know, Kevin and I funk around with each
other like that. So then you know he's he's probably
sitting at home right now listening to this ass clenched
so hard and it's hilarious.
Speaker 1: Take a lump of Kevin's ash, you get a diamond
in a week.
Speaker 2: But so he said, oh, you know, Tyler's golfing got
moved up and everything. The rain that day, yes, rain delay,
all this stuff. So I just.
Speaker 1: All legit. Yep.
Speaker 2: So then the following Monday, but he eventually texts me
while at the party. I text him, I was like,
are you gonna calm and a you're gonna make at
you know, and he was like, I'm not gonna make it.
I was like, you suck, you suck the balls or whatever.
So then I find out on Monday, Yeah, that it wasn't.
He wasn't at the golf tournament. He never even had
to go and pick up Tyler because Carrie did.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: He admits that he's just drinking with his buddies in
his garage, and I was like, what the fuck, Kevin,
you've known about this. I literally came to your house
like two weekends ago and we sat in your garage
and had a drink and talked about it. So that
is where I was more butt hurt than anyone who
said shit online, because I love Kevin. It was sad.
I you know, he's somebody who I hold near and deer.
Speaker 1: Somebody just texted into five or five two of sixty
eight eighty sixty six. Oh my god. Bill is now
going to be an elite level instacarter. Ha ha ha.
I enjoy the vast array of opinions topics, and yesterday,
relate with a lot. Let me see him. I relate
with a lot of things you all talk about. I
think you do pretty well interacting with texting callers. You're good.
Speaker 2: Look at that interaction.
Speaker 3: Thank you for texting, Thank you for texting. I don't
know who was I love that. I do know Vinnie's number.
It was not Vinnie's number. I'll just say that I
know that it's Vinnie's number.
Speaker 1: Was not Viny's.
Speaker 2: But yeah. So then Kevin like two days later text
me and says, do you want to know the true story?
Speaker 1: Vinny says, if they pull your hair lore and that
means they like you just having fun, honey.
Speaker 2: Much love. I send a ponytail today, I can.
Speaker 1: Okay, well that is where you can pull it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but so I usually.
Speaker 1: Pull it into two parts and then you can pull
it this way in that way.
Speaker 2: I was wearing pigtails that not.
Speaker 1: That I know anything about that at all.
Speaker 2: So Kevin owes me an explanation, but he said he
wants to like do it over a drink. So I
told him, all right, next time I'm in. So I
thought he would be in tonight.
Speaker 1: Okay, so he said to me, and I am going
to spill this Kevin, and I love you like a
brother seriously, because he wrote me saying, uh, and I'm
going to paraphrase here, Uh, you've had four great shows
this week. I don't want to be the fifth and
fuck it up. And I so, which was odd, right, Yeah,
but I that's always Kevin's like self deprecating him. Yeah,
So I thought, all right, buddy, and so I write
back and go, you never fuck it up and I
love when you're in and bubblah. And so I call
him because it was bothering me. It was bothering me
because I go, this doesn't make any sense. So then
I go, are you in or yeah, yeah, and blah
blah blah. And then I said, well, by the way,
I don't know if you know Laura's coming in, and
he went, oh, yeah, I got, I got. He goes listen,
I got a lot to do for the Canadian trip.
We're not really speaking right now. Who does that? So
I'm like, he's hurt. Well, so okay, by the way,
I have a solution to our problem. But it might
be it's a little selfish.
Speaker 2: Kevin constantly will text me at eight o'clock at night
on a weekend, what are you doing? And I already
have plans? So no shit, it's I love hanging out
with Kevin, but you can't. You have to plan ahead
with me. I I book up, and I book up.
Speaker 1: Yes. Let me tell you one of the greatest things
you can learn to do in life is get out
ahead of things, and Laura is fucking way out ahead
of things. No, you are, Yeah, and that's a great thing.
That's how you have a more balanced, happy life because
you can plan and then when something doesn't go right,
it doesn't throw the whole thing off course, it just means, okay,
so tonight, that's this, but I still have this to
look forward to and this to look forward. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so so he knew the plan was said party
with me all day on the seventeenth. Then he didn't
show up, So yeah, that sucked. He's one of the
people I care about.
Speaker 1: I know, so I did say that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But it's not like I'm mad at him. I
just because that way, if.
Speaker 1: Kevin was there, I think the I think the party
would have changed because we'll see.
Speaker 2: That that's the whole Billified crew.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. The bad part is I had my
son with me, not bad, and let me rephrase that
because that sounds awful. I had him with me, and
I had him with me on purpose because there was
some stuff going on and I needed him there. I
wanted to keep eyes on this guy. And he was
not happy at first and then totally warmed up and
then said to me later, because I did want to
make sure that I showed a but Greg's thing because
my other son was there, and I felt a little
bad because I your party was just at that point
where it was like, oh, we're swinging, We're swinging into
the area. I like, I knew, and I knew so.
Speaker 2: Good for the first I was so good and even
now I'm still like, I wish I remembered it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yeah, I totally understand what you're saying. Yeah, so, yeah, Kevin,
I don't even know where I was going. What was
I gonna say something? I'm thinking of other people or
popping in my head.
Speaker 2: Because I'm saying that I was bummed he wasn't there. Like,
I'm not like upset, but I was. I was bummed. No.
Speaker 1: Oh, So Jamison said to me when we got home,
he goes, man, I wish we could go back. I
had a great time. Yeah, And I'm like, yeah, yeah
he did. He loved playing basketball with your son and
his friend. It was two on one and Jamison at
once in a while. I mean, he's like six to
one and these are what are they eight? Ten years old? Okay,
He's jumping up and just it's like Shack just beating
the ball out of there. But this one, whoever, your
son's friend was so Colton's cocky. Colton's cock and cocky,
but he backs it up and your son is like
a quiet assassin. He says nothing, and he's training threes.
He's like pass like he's got and Jameison at one
point goes, they're starting to kill me. They're starting to
kill me. Butever once in a while was just going
and just dunk on him. But I mean it was
just it was he had a great time and I
and I'm like, yeah, I would have ubered home, but
I can't do that in front of him. I can't
get all stupid.
Speaker 2: It does happen, and it's better than showing him to
drink and drive.
Speaker 1: It's one hundred percent, you know, you know what, that's
a really good point. That's a really good point. We'll
take a moment. By the way, Danny has a gift
for you.
Speaker 2: Oh oh, well, why do we need an uber? Then
I totally forgot he did text me and I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't. Who knows what it is. I can't drink
your birthday gift, although I.
Speaker 2: Will, I think we will be opening it up.
Speaker 1: He did text me though, Who did text you? Danny?
Speaker 2: Danny?
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh no, you can't drink that with me. We
got it, I said, Josh. Reserve Laura. That's you and
Joe on a quiet night in front of.
Speaker 2: The Joe doesn't drink red.
Speaker 1: Oh he doesn't. I'll pretend. I'll pretend. I'm gonna pretend
I'm Joe for a moment. Here we go.
Speaker 2: Who thank you, Dan and Bath love you guys.
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I love the song, love the original. Oh shit, I'm
sure you don't know what this original artist. And there's
no there there it's not to say.
Speaker 2: Jack Johnson.
Speaker 1: Okay, great call. Wow, that's amazing, good polls. But I
love Jack Johnson. You've seen go anywhere yet? Gus, we're
drinking our second bottle of wine.
Speaker 2: We're only on our second segment, you know more.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Switch Do you know this voice? Should
your belly?
Speaker 2: Oh? Well, this is Dave.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you just saw where did you see Dave?
Speaker 2: He was at Syracuse, So.
Speaker 1: You went to Syracuse and he went to Ye. But
did you see a c mac oh Kate Brown? So
came Brown did two shows in the shittiest weather. Ye.
My buddy is like the head of security there, and
I was talking to him the other day and he's like,
oh my god, I just freezed my ass off. Yeah.
I was like, Laura was there, but no wonder Laura
was like in a park.
Speaker 2: A furc Yeah yeah, cowboy boots it all.
Speaker 1: This is a Jimmy Buffett song. Oh okay a pirate
fls at forty and I love this is from Jack
Johnson put Jack Johnson and Friends years ago, and I
loved this version of this college.
Speaker 2: Yes, I was very much Jack Johnson dashboard oar, Dave Matthew.
So I still try and see Dave when he comes
to town.
Speaker 1: You know, Dave used to just go get his haircut
when he would come to town. Really, it would just
show up. Yeah. I think he also might not have
been here, might have been Pennsylvania that he went out
on a bike ride by himself and wound up getting
a flat tire or something, and some people pulled over
gave him a ride, and he gave him front row seat.
Speaker 2: I heard that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: One of my favorite concerts I ever went to was
Hershey Park and it was Dave and oar.
Speaker 1: Really Dave and Oar. Yeah, I'm not as familiar, like
I couldn't tell you an oar song, but anytime I do,
I know like, I like it, but I'm not as familiar.
And Dave was one of those. He was the borderline
jam band stuff like he could be short or long,
jam is jampan and uh. I have never seen Dave live. Yeah,
I know it's good.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: I want to go see Benson Boone. I think he's
there on the Is it Thursday? Yeah, I can't even Okay,
I'm so fucked up on dates. I'm sending people things.
Another podcast is going to start here. We're going to
try to I have no idea how this will word.
Speaker 3: And my dates are all goofed on Thursday.
Speaker 1: There are and by the way, I've color coded my
calendar after looking at you, I am serious color coded
my fun because of Laura.
Speaker 2: My I know Beds and Boone sold out, but you
can buy.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, tell you something not even
inside her scoop. This is something that brother Weez has
said on the radio for years. He used to be
a constant promoter. There's no such thing as sold out
day of go show up, get there a little bit earlier.
They hold back seats for friends and family. So I
wanted to see Hall of notes years ago. I know
it sounds queer. Maybe you hate holotes, you go, what
what's wrong? Darrel Hall used always come into the deli
I worked at, and people would flood him. So he
stopped coming in, and just as wife would come in.
And I used to always think to myself, I'm slicing
what ever it was? Beloney, let's say for Daryl Hall,
like that was a cool thing for me. Yeah, and
I loved his music. I love Daryl solo. Apparently that
he does too, because he and Oates are not to
go so uh he has What will happen is they
hold back? So I called a friend of mine. Uh,
many people probably know this guy in town where we live, Elvio.
Elvio is part of the band Daughtry. He knew the drummer.
The drummer was able to reserve seats. We had fifth
row seats. Yeah. No, so if you like, if you
go even But by the way, you don't need somebody
else to be the intermediary. You can go to yourself
because they want to sell those seats, but they hold
them back because friends and family somebody may fly in. Hey,
it's the fingerlegs. I'd love to see you understand what
I'm saying, So check that out in any content.
Speaker 2: You go to my wants to take her ten year
old son for his first concert to what Ben Boone Boone,
and she was like, it's sold out, And I, you know,
went on stub Hub or whatever and told her, you
can buy tickets for one hundred dollars, but you'll see
long long.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like lawn a lot.
Speaker 1: Well, I like long too, but I don't want to
pay one hundred dollars for long.
Speaker 2: Tickets.
Speaker 1: Fucking rice for real.
Speaker 2: Dave was seventy dollars for lawn.
Speaker 1: Wow, just at face value.
Speaker 2: Face value got off Ticketmaster of the Day that came on.
Speaker 1: Has happened with everything.
Speaker 2: Ticket you know what? Expensive And Dave is no opener.
He's never been, he's never had. Was the guy who
used to play with him, Tim Reynolds. Tim Reynolds love
some data, Yeah, like Dave and Tim sometimes tore it
out together. Yes, but he's no opener. He plays there's
never a verified set list. It's just they make it
up on the go or right before podcasts. Yeah, but
I love that. I love and I even love that
he doesn't really have newer music that you go and
you get the classics and you know what to expect,
and so you know, I left right when the encore
went to break okay, so that I could get on
the road because I drove back and I had driven
everyone and the girls fell asleep in the car.
Speaker 1: And wait, you went with the ladies only to wat
show Dave I went to in Syracuse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was Tuesday. I went with Joe to Kane Brown.
But we've seen Kane. This is our third time seeing
him now together.
Speaker 1: So what is your thing? What makes like? We were
talking about this last night and I said that my
son and I had a pretty rough night before I
came over to do the podcast, and I spent a
lot of time and I try to think about things.
I try to think critically. I don't know if I'm
I like to think I'm capable of that. And I
did a lot of philosophy stuff in college. But I
was thinking about it, and I go. So many people
talk about love language, right what make and I go?
But the base, the baseline of love language is what
makes you tick. I've always said a great boss knows
their people. I know that Laura wants to be at
her kids soccer game at three o'clock. And Laura's willing
to make fifty grand a year. But I also know that,
you know, Tyler over here wants to run through fucking
walls and make one hundred and fifty to two hundred
thousand dollars a year and doesn't give a shit. And
I need to be as the manager, the person that
can see. I need to know my people. And I
was like, this is an interesting it's an interesting thing.
What makes you tick. That's what love language really is,
what makes you tick. Some people like to hear in
the morning, hello, my love, welcome to a new day.
And other people go, shut the fuck up. You're gonna
make me throw up in my fucking mouth with your
phony shit, right, But somebody else loves that. And I
was thinking, even with our kids, like as I'm listening
to my son, and I thought he was being very disrespectful.
I'm like, when I step back, I go, I mean,
I think he was trying to tell me I need
a break. I need a break. Like his thing was like,
you know, all right, hey, I got it. No, I
don't want to hear about it. I'm done. I got it,
I got it, I got it. I need a break, right,
But I'm taking it as you're being a disrespectful punk.
And I think everybody's language is different.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I get that, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think that we look at kids and go,
fuck you. You gotta do what I say old school
parenting needs to come back. Well maybe not.
Speaker 2: I just I'm like, do what makes you happy. And
the reason one of the reasons why I love live
music so much, whether it's a big name concert or
a small jam band in Rochester, is most people don't
show up if they don't want to be there. Yeah,
go you pay, so you are around other people when
they're happy. It's contagious and so I say, I love
to just look at people in their element. So that's
why I will go to country, to Dave, to rock,
to anything. Live music just it's such. It's like an
effordigiac in a way. It makes people happy. They're just
you know, genuine in that element and that.
Speaker 1: You're going to take me somewhere to something I've never
really talked about. But I feel like you believe in vibration.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely.
Speaker 1: And I meet with a group like it has sometimes
depending on everybody's schedule, but it's a variety, and everybody
in the group is more educated than I am. And
one of the guys you've made fun of me for
saying that on the podcast, Well it doesn't matter. But
they're all doctorates and there's something about that vibration. And
you're absolutely right. And our whole point, I believe as
human beings is to be happy. And sometimes when you
I mean think about anything, like I don't feel like
exercising today, but I go to the gym and around
a group of people who want to exercise, and I
had the best workout I've had in the last fifteen days. Right,
But why is that? Because my vibration ere everything goes up.
And that's the same thing with music, and I think
music music is all vibration. It's all vibration.
Speaker 2: Lucas, my older son is into Kendrick Lamar and Travis
Scott in that type of He's into rap and if
there was a concert I could take him to that's
more local, I a hundred percent go, even though it's
not my style.
Speaker 1: The same thing.
Speaker 2: Do you see people happy enjoying it? They are in it.
Like the lyrics. I'm such a lyrical person and hence
my without fear my other music tattoo. I mean, it
just it brings me so much stoy.
Speaker 1: So getting to like so Laura, I don't know, I
can't say that. You let me ask you this sex
after divorce, reclaiming Laura's interfreak and I think there is
an interfreak. And I think you've admitted that there's an interfreak.
How has How was it after leaving a long marriage
for you? Because I think there's people Here's why I
asked this question, not to be yes till lighting a
little bit. I'm not going to lie. But at the
other end of it, there's a lot of people who
are in a similar situation. There's a lot of people
who are in marriages that are thinking, like I can't
do this anymore. There's no affection here, there's no anything.
Speaker 2: I thought. It was scary as hell, really really, yeah,
even as sexual as I am, and I will say
that there was. I mean, people who listen frequently here
and my close friends know that there was a divorce
and then there was a breakout because there is a
divorce from my husband who we had not slept together
in a long time.
Speaker 1: Really, when you say a long time, what would be
a long time.
Speaker 2: I think we slept together twice in the last year
of them of our marriage.
Speaker 1: Your marriage, Okay, yeah, I think the average is like,
what three to four times a week? People?
Speaker 2: Oh, no, the average is way less than that, is it, really?
I think the average is maybe three to four No, no,
I don't think I okay, gotcha, Like, honestly, I think
it's once a week.
Speaker 1: What well, I can see that with schedules and things.
But is there also a point where you're like just
not attracted to the I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I oh god, yeah, I think so. I don't
even think it's physical attraction though. I think there's such
a difference between You can still be physically attracted to
your partner, but if they don't help out, if they
don't put in the work.
Speaker 1: That's a female to play thing. I agree, But that's
a female thing. I think most guys are like.
Speaker 2: Like you get the ick, Like if you see your
husband or your partner and do something and you're like, oh, like,
I'm weird. There's some things as I am, there are
some things that turned me off so bad, and I'm like, oh,
if you woe, it's got a poison ivy breakout, right,
now I'm like, do not even come close to me.
Speaker 1: No, but I understand that because that could spread onto
your body.
Speaker 2: It's gross, it's so gross, but.
Speaker 1: That could That seems normal to me. A character in
Batman if.
Speaker 2: You do, like if you say something stupid.
Speaker 1: That really that turns you off? Really yeah? Really like wow, okay,
like what give me one?
Speaker 2: Okay. So the other day, literally the other day with Joe,
Love you Dearly Joe, but he said something that I
totally disagreed about, and he was like, oh, that was
a dumb way to die. And I just thought that
that was so stupid to say. I was like, there's
nothing that's a dumb way to die or that's funny, like,
and it was a it was a act of God. Yeah,
a tragedy that killed these people and that's funny. That
was dumb way to die. And I was like ew,
Like as we were about to go have sex touch.
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait wait wait what you're we're like.
Speaker 2: On the staircase to Sunday and I was like, ew,
that just gave me the eck.
Speaker 1: What were you watching that people died?
Speaker 2: I was like scrolling through Instagram and it was like
a boat crash. Oh, yeah, people died. He's like, that's funny,
that's a dumb way to die. I was like, what
the fuck is wrong with you? Get out of my back.
Speaker 1: What was it that turned you off?
Speaker 2: Well, because I'm such an EmPATH felt bad for the people. Yes, yes,
And he thought it was funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, how is it being in an EmPATH?
Do you have a hard time? Like?
Speaker 2: Oh, things affects me emotionally a lot.
Speaker 1: Really, I get Yeah, So as somebody who does organizing
and you go into someone's home and let's say there's
hoarders and things, can you feel sort of their energy
of things and their pain through the way you can?
Speaker 2: And I think that that's good with helping with compassion
and patience for clients because they open up to me.
A lot of people cried to me, Like I was
with a elderly guy today who is a war veteran
and disabled and he was just telling me his life story.
And I can tell what you need from me when
they're talking and expressing their feelings and everything that they've
gone through. But in the outside world it does affect
me a lot. And I wasn't so empathetic.
Speaker 1: When you say, like that is it people you know,
or could be a complete stranger standing next to you
and me anything.
Speaker 2: It could be a complete stranger. If people know me,
you know, I am a lover of everybody, like I
am so open to people. So when you hear about
a black person getting murdered or you know, a transgender,
well I'm just saying about, like I know, any any
hate crime. Those really really bother me. They really affect me.
And again I wish I didn't feel so deeply.
Speaker 1: Do you watch the news?
Speaker 2: I try not to anymore. I really stopped during COVID
once my kids started asking questions questions about the news,
because I was like a news freak. I had it
on all the time.
Speaker 1: Your kids are. It was interesting because I saw your
weekend post right you put up a bunch of stuff
and your son was pitching in the game, and it
sound like, I can you focused on him. I couldn't
see where the ball was going. I could only hear
the reaction, and it sounds like you have you and
your X in some way have instilled a real confidence
in these boys, which is I think amazing. Yeah, just
I was watching that and I'm like, that's a kid
who's confident. In his ability. No matter what the fuck
is happening out here, it all comes from in here.
Speaker 2: Lucas kills it in sports he is, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, but he just knows in himself. That's how I
sound telling you like the cocky kid, And forgive me,
I don't mean to make it, not in a negative way.
But he was a little allowed and by the way,
backed it up. But he played my son one on one.
My son is six one and two hundred pounds and
these two ten year olds are taking them on. And
I said to you, your son is the silent assassin.
He didn't. He never went out of his way to
be cocky, or he let the other guy do all
the talking. But he was right. He needell a lot
of shot. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So but back to the sacks.
Speaker 1: Yes, well, I don't want to do that. You know what,
Maybe we take a break and we find out what's
on your bedroom bucket list? What's left to check off? Oh?
Oh okay, well is there?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah? Oh Jesus Christ, Yeah to left.
Speaker 1: To check off?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 4: To see if fail not really hope if, you do,
and well hope.
Speaker 1: You do and well she was running Like the.
Speaker 4: DENNIS outside i left the boat a little bit.
Speaker 1: Of boat it's.
Speaker 4: Cold and now from put, the boat gad out of. The, food, no, waitized.
Speaker 2: Sure what's FUNNY is i just looked outside and realized
it's still. Light outside sheel.
Speaker 1: LIKE that i apologize that we're so long with, you
tonight but there's a lot of dirty talk during, the
Breaks and i'm trying to get. The, Feld, GOD laura i.
CAN'T believe i CAN'T believe i looked at this SHIP
like i really can't.
Speaker 2: Believe that sometimes you DON'T realize i can't look at
the SITUATION that i.
Speaker 1: WAS in i can't look at the same you in the.
SAME way I just. I go and then there were
things in THE picture i. Didn't Notice and, you're like
and our video's not WORKING AND i i just fucking
the video should be, working tonight because this is the
night it Needs for, It's, like kevin how are you doing? At?
Speaker 5: Home, Kevin dude we're trying to.
Speaker 2: Text one of, my friends talking about like our new
dy photos that we would send to, each other like as,
a female.
Speaker 1: Just like do you know who? You're?
Speaker 2: Texting yes like, you know what do you think of?
This shot, you know when friends are, single together we
were like each other's, empowering motivator motivator and, you know
if you're dating someone that, you're into where you'd, be
like what do you think about this photo?
Speaker 1: Of? Me or really you get it like? A, preview yes?
A LITTLE and i would, BE like i love.
Speaker 2: This photo if she would send me.
Speaker 1: Like you got you got a little pimble on? Her
ass we need, To yeah or.
Speaker 2: If she would send me a photo of like one
angle versus, another angle like what PHOTO should i? Send
him i'd give her my. Honest feedback you, would? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Really yeah and you like? That shit? Love it do
you like the? Female?
Speaker 2: FORM oh i think women are way more beautiful to.
Speaker 1: LOOK at i, Do, TOO yeah i, Always YEAH BUT
I i i. Have been i'm only going to say
this because we're two bottles of one in, his PODCAST
but i. Have been my therapist called? A, womanizer REALLY
and i NEVER thought. I, was no doesn't that seem
like a? Mean thing what is? A WOMANIZER because i
don't even Know if i'm. Exactly sure smooth like manipulating.
Speaker 2: To, women yeah like it's sort of. A, conquest.
Speaker 1: Yeah see that THAT'S where i Die because i'm not very.
Speaker 2: LIKE sexual, I don't.
Speaker 1: I DON'T but i DO LIKE I i i. LOVE
women i fucking. Love women, it's bad. You know and
the more feminine and the, MORE whatever i, am like, oh, god,
damn YEAH it's i have. A weakness it's. My, Kryptonite,
okay no.
Speaker 2: WELL no I mean i think you're. Allowed to but
that's who. You are and that's the THING is i
hate when people try to Act, like okay.
Speaker 1: So here's the. Bad Part and i'm probably gonna get
in trouble, for this but when on, a VIDEO but
i would get Accused OF and i have often defended
women in, This ARGUMENT like i have heard women say
it's hard to, be hot and, people, go oh give
me a, fucking break, fuck you you Fucking and, i'm,
like no anytime you're nice to. Any, guy anytime if
you're an attractive woman and you're nice to, a guy
they think they have a shot and they mistake the
niceness as flirting or they take mistake the nicest as
a pass of some kind and. It's not it's just
you being, a, normal conscientious kind. Human Being and, I'm
RIGHT am? I wrong.
Speaker 2: I don't want to. Sound, conceited, conceited.
Speaker 1: Yeah but you're three and five or no one thinks.
Are CONSUMED but.
Speaker 2: I do get hit on a. Good amount i'm sure.
Speaker 1: You do i'm sure.
Speaker 2: YOU do i am someone WHO want i will go because.
You're NICE it's i think it's a mix. Of things.
I'm nice i'm. Always smiling so people do misconstrue.
Speaker 1: Like, That guys GUYS Do.
Speaker 2: I, HEY man i think how.
Speaker 1: She wants to suck? My NIPPLES how?
Speaker 2: I NOT like i dress for the gem and for
my jobs in black leggings most days and LIKE a
t shirt And.
Speaker 1: A zeppa well, you're working, and yes SO if.
Speaker 2: I am very SWEATY and i Go to wegmans in
black leggings and the tank TOP because i take off
my SWEATSHIRT because i was hot in, THE day i have,
Had comments yeah.
Speaker 1: It's, Just you.
Speaker 2: I've had But like i've. HAD comments i loves me and,
woman Too and i'm is? That NICE and i think
the FACT that i don't wear a wedding Ring because i'm.
Not married people definitely.
Speaker 1: KNOW that i will Say because we've talked about a
number of things tonight and and certainly alluded. To him
your boyfriend is a very he's just rolls with it
all and. KNOWS true i would think truly trust. You, yep,
yeah YEAH and i think you're very. Trust. WORTHY yeah
i know there's a lot of talk. About, stuff well
and you know.
Speaker 2: He knows of. My past he But.
Speaker 1: But laura has, talked about, you know, swinger stuff not
so much that she wants to participate, in it but
wants to be around.
Speaker 2: Or WHY and i talk about this with him all.
THE time i talked. About it he heard all of
us talk about it all. WEEK along i was with
my girlfriends and we were like five horny women all
week and long talking. About shit and he just heard it.
All night what was some.
Speaker 1: Of the stuff because you had texted some PEOPLE and
i was on that take kau well not just Me.
And kevin, oh yeah the guy who blew off. Your,
birthday yeah but there was a lot of things said. In.
Speaker 2: THERE yeah i was just saying that a lot of,
my friends the females in the couples are way more
open and curious and into the voyeurism and. Exploring past
just like sex with your partner at home behind. Closed
doors and the men are the ones who, are, like,
nope nope well Because they.
Speaker 1: HERE'S why i think for, most men that opens up
an opportunity for you to not be. With them and
there's something about that loyalty to the male ego that's. Very.
IMPORTANT really i do.
Speaker 2: Have one friend who, was like she her desires to
watch her husband with another partner's and that's. Not me
that's NOT what. I, want.
Speaker 1: Yeah wouldn't that? Be? Weird, YEAH yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't even want to.
Speaker 1: Swap it but you showed me pictures? Of, you okay
does that seeing you in? Those pictures how does that
make you feel hot? And? Horny? Or? Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: LIKED bring i loved teasing LIKE whoever i was seeing at,
that time like sending a. Hot picture, HOLY shit i
KNEW what i was doing to. Those people, all.
Speaker 1: Right let's do a little would you Rap? With laura
would You Rather laura laura lives On, the edge accidentally
accidentally send a nude to your boss or to your
kid's school? Group chat what would you rather to?
Speaker 2: My Boss because i'm.
Speaker 1: My boss have you ever had a texting fail with something?
Like that because you do live.
Speaker 3: On me oh, one time oh, my god this was
not even that.
Speaker 2: LONG ago i have had so many. Text fails but
ONE time i had been with the client. THAT day
i got back to. My House this joe was not
living with me at, this, point okay and he had
cleaned my. Entire HOME and i went to text, him
like thank you. So much it makes me want to suck.
Your TALK and i sent it to THE client i
had been with.
Speaker 1: That day and the, CLIENT said i don't think that
this is not. For, me, WRONG cock.
Speaker 2: I Have had i've done numerous things like That because
i'm not as bad with you, As texting but like
if clients.
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait wait did you say as bad? As?
Me yes WHAT if? I?
Speaker 2: Texted no when you have like two hundred and eighty
text MESSAGES people i don't respond to during, The.
Speaker 1: Day i'm way. Over, that.
Speaker 2: Yeah okay So sometimes i'll go to Respond to joe
or another FRIEND and i respond to a client.
Speaker 3: Something dirty well it's kind, of yeah, believe me they all.
Speaker 1: Appreciate it they all. Appreciate. It uh would you rather
sleep with your ex one last time or let your
current boyfriend read Your entire google search history out loud
into a microphone on. This podcast.
Speaker 2: It depends ON.
Speaker 1: What x.
Speaker 2: There's SOME actions i would love to sleep.
Speaker 1: With both really is? It? Really? Yeah why what? Is
it they were fun?
Speaker 2: In bed what does?
Speaker 1: That? Mean? Oh?
Speaker 2: Good? Sex good, you know flipping me around all the,
good times like just.
Speaker 1: Good good but why are the fucking cameras not? Working?
Tonight tonight? Why good?
Speaker 2: You know talk like? JUST adventurous i had some there
were some really, Boring people.
Speaker 1: So what what is boring? To you like the?
Speaker 2: Same, position yeah the, same, one two, Three STEPS like
i go down, on you you go to do?
Speaker 1: It missionary but what if it's? Like talking i've, had.
That dude i've had situations where it's like you on
top and, you know you from behind, and yeah but
there's something hot about all. Of it. CAN'T stop i
would do that routine over, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah and that great position that is, like yeah years
ago but, still there.
Speaker 1: Throw my back out and. My head would you would
you rather only have sex and complete, Silence? Forever laura
or only while a kid's cartoon plays loudly in. The
background you can't you can't pick.
Speaker 2: The, CARTOON god i want to go cartoon BUT also i,
feel like, you know if you were like gagged and you,
can't talk that's. Still hot so, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: All right would you rather sleep or would you rather
be caught by your kids mid makeout Or by joe's
mom mid four play or role play my kid's?
Speaker 4: Mid?
Speaker 1: Makeout really why you wouldn't want to be caught by? His?
Speaker 2: Mom, no no but like my kids seeing Me kiss
joe all?
Speaker 1: The? Time yeah how? Do they how are they? With
that because it has to be a, word thing but
they also must see their dad with. Someone.
Speaker 2: NEW yeah i don't know if, they kiss but they
probably Have, FIVE no I just i'm so really loving.
Speaker 1: That, You no i'm sure.
Speaker 2: They kiss they're. Lovely together, but, Yeah no i'd rather
have my kids watch me make Out.
Speaker 1: With, JOE okay I mean joe in.
Speaker 2: Front of them all.
Speaker 1: The time would you rather give up sex for a year? Or,
die no give up your vibrator for. A.
Speaker 2: Month oh i'd rather give up my vibrator for a
month than sex for. A. Year yes.
Speaker 1: How often does the vibrator come into the?
Speaker 2: ACTUAL act i would say about a quarter of. THE
time a quarter of the time some type of. Sex,
toy yeah not always just, the vibrator but like some type.
Speaker 1: Of like what else? Is there there's?
Speaker 2: A cockring, Whoa, eybody yeah there's so many things that.
Speaker 1: They vibrate uh, huh, YEAH yeah i.
Speaker 2: Would say there's a toy about twenty.
Speaker 1: Five percent of. The time. That's, all, yeah okay he.
Speaker 2: Just good he does? Good manually what that he? Does? Good,
MANUALLY yes I get.
Speaker 1: I don't Know what. I'M saying I think, i, yeah.
Speaker 2: Wait did you did you not use toys In.
Speaker 1: The, oh, no NO well i don't Know what i'm,
talking about, but no, come. On bullshit i've. Had, toys, yeah,
Yes yes i've, had TOYS but i would use toys almost.
Every time oh.
Speaker 2: Really yeah, OH yeah i don't feel the Need.
Speaker 1: For oh we'll See then I'm not i'm not getting the.
Speaker 2: Deal done but like there are the AT the, buildo
party the. One vibrator that camera is literally my favorite
thing in the.
Speaker 1: Entire world what did? You, BUY well i bought, a lot.
Speaker 2: But there's this one green one and it like is,
very bendable so like you can hit both like your
clip AND your g spot at the. Same time. Insert
it but a lot, of times like we will just
like even if he's we're, having Sex like joss put
it on. The clips it is. Literally magical it's.
Speaker 1: My, favorite yeah but sometimes having, that, no, no you
KNOW what i? Should say not every TIME had i use,
the TOY but i could see using.
Speaker 2: A toy, Oh YEAH.
Speaker 1: And i would THINK when i was a, younger GUY
oh i must not be doing the getting the. Job
done and the, answer, is, oh no. You're fine this
just makes.
Speaker 2: Everything BETTER but I have i have one of my really,
good Friends, like google you Give you IT'S like i
don't need.
Speaker 1: A toy i just use.
Speaker 2: My fingers oh god all. The, time yeah IT'S too
i love.
Speaker 1: A toy I'VE never.
Speaker 2: I can't you've, YOU'VE no i can't open up bottle.
Speaker 1: Of, three okay there HAVE been. I, Can't seriously i'm,
SURE photo i got what you're doing and we're not,
a camera and why is that what the flip? Happened
tonight But here i've had women WHERE like, I go
i shouldn't be in, this situation and my head fucks, with,
Me right BUT then i see what pleasure, they're GETTING
and i wind up just going, manually right and then
they take my hand and shove it in. Their mouth,
oh yeah And then i'm back in.
Speaker 2: The, game yeah that's.
Speaker 1: Not Nasty it's oh, My, GOD laura i can't believe
this is the. Whole podcast this Is The lord's. Filtering
podcast would you rather give? Up? Sex oh never mind? The,
vibrator yeah the group. Sex thing very curious about that,
with YOU because i think you really would like to. Do, that.
Speaker 2: Wait group SEX or i.
Speaker 1: DON'T know i think if you got into like a
sex club or whatever that you would be it would
be too much like you couldn't you would wind up.
Speaker 2: JOINING in i would, REALLY No, I joe joe would
have to be a part, of that.
Speaker 1: Like in.
Speaker 2: SOME aspects, I mean i'm not going to do something
without him or without permission, or yeah single days you,
REALLY yeah i MEAN if i had gone to like a, swinger's,
club again it has to be good looking people like
it can't be. Very afraid and THAT'S why i told
you my friend who went to the sex Club. In
toronto she was very like not knowing what. To expect
AND then i remember how she, described it was like
this do faced girl like came up to me and,
WAS like i want to suck. Your boobs HOW would i? Tell,
Her no, SHE'S like i, enjoyed it, you know but
she went up there with no expectations and then her
stories have just been amazing.
Speaker 1: Ever since could you? DO that i.
Speaker 2: DON'T know i. Don't know it would depend on. The
situation it would depend on, my partner and, you Know
but I'M so i want to know more.
Speaker 1: About it we'll take. A break i got to try
to get these, cameras WORKING and i got. More, questions Yeah.
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Speaker 1: THEM on i don't. Know why i've tried many times
a restarted. THE computer i don't know. What happened i'm
so upset, about this such a problem it kind of
is because, and YEAH because i like.
Speaker 2: CAMERAS well i.
Speaker 1: Start thinking about people who, may WATCH and i go,
A maybe i'm listen to this song, Right Here bonding
ray coming. To uh august twenty Third, to max it's?
My birthday is the? Day Before.
Speaker 2: Bonnie Philified, TO bonnie, I, know, oh, actually wow the
day is? That good, Oh no I'm fraid i'm Going
to thomas on the.
Speaker 1: Twenty first the twenty third is what day For? The?
Saturday saturday So, a.
Speaker 2: Friday motherfucker we could do that because you want to
know what we're all going to be Doing On Saturday Fairport.
Music fest, oh YEAH.
Speaker 1: But i would Go To Bonnie Rado. Fairport music This
Song naked time was really written about a woman's, biological
clock and it was just in The naked time that
she was debating and her boyfriend and was? It right
and was? It this and was it that? She had
can you how hard it is to be? A woman you?
Know What maybe i'm a giant fucking vagina WITH eyes
i feel. WOMEN'S stuff i, oh, god damn it's hard.
TO me i think it's hard to be. A woman we. Get,
JUDGED well i always say like the hot girl syndrome where,
people go whoa? FUCK her, i, go yeah you're just
nice to. A guy, i, KNOW guys i am. A
guy i don't think you're gonna meet more guy. THAN
me i love going fucking if, you CAN if i
can go mock my hairs, On fire i'll. DO it i.
Love That and i'm almost fifty four years OLD and
i would still. DO that i have. No idea people
talk about testosterone. DROPPING whatever i still wake up with a.
BONER occasionally i, JUST yeah i, don't know it's. Not
UNCOMMON so i JUST but, i, go boy there's something
about women as they. GET older, i, go fuck that's a.
Shitty life you're nice to a guy and. Like, you Right,
here's laura, pretty lady, blue eyes, blonde hair and, just,
says hey how. You doing and all of, A sudden
you're like she was just like, Right hair and that's what.
Guys think and it's, a, terrible terrible. Awful, THING.
Speaker 2: Again i had my shit go on with, the guy
but then there were numerous guys who were married who
would hit.
Speaker 1: On me or why why do you?
Speaker 2: THINK that i have, No IDEA and i got so disgusted,
by it and because there were some PEOPLE that i
didn't even know that they, were married but it was
a friend of a FRIEND and i would talk to
them And then i'd find out that they're. Fucking married
and it, was, like look the GUY THAT i i
was with like that was that was, Very real like
it was not just like, A oh i'm hooking up with.
This guy it was a two, year long like deeply in.
Loved thing so it really affected me and it made
me hate man for.
Speaker 1: A moment, so yeah.
Speaker 2: But THAT'S why I THINK i. I dated why?
Speaker 1: Do women why are some women like guy like guys
that eat him? Like ship, oh yeah passed.
Speaker 2: That bottle finish.
Speaker 1: It Guys, OH laura i took your birthday Present, it no.
Speaker 2: It's okay Danny, and beth thank.
Speaker 1: You guys beth. FUCKED up i don't think.
Speaker 2: It's GUYS because i want to deal with guys who
treated me. Like shit EVEN THOUGH i i did, the
one it was it was manipulative and. Gaslighting forever BUT
then i very much learned, after that like to not deal.
With that so THAT'S why i had such a wall
up for a.
Speaker 1: Long time what would be your no shame zone is
there such. A thing no shame in?
Speaker 2: WHAT way i.
Speaker 1: Don't know. NO shame i.
Speaker 2: DON'T think i have shame in.
Speaker 1: ANYTHING anymore i don't think you. Do, EITHER no i
Don't think.
Speaker 2: I'm so accepting OF who, i AM what i, went
through and what is it.
Speaker 1: With guys that you would want guys, to RECOGNIZE because
i do think that. There is i've always, said That
and I'VE said i have said it on, This podcast
i've said it on. THE radio i think women. Are
smarter AND then i, go well and then people go, well,
this this and, go okay hang on. A second i'm
not going to equate necessarily all. JUST intellectual i, think
emotionally women are way more intelligent, than men way. MORE
intelligent i can, read things. UNDERSTAND situations i think guys
are very myopic in their, you know whatever, they're doing
that's what. THEY'RE doing i look back on my own
LIFE and, i, go yeah it was all, about this
and everything else. Was PERIPHERAL if i had time to get,
TO it i got, to it and that was, human
beings that. WAS people i. LOVED people i would tell
you today my NAME that i love more than anything on.
THIS planet i think.
Speaker 2: That it changes with age at when you're IN young
i think people like, the chase they like, the play,
they like, you know to beep around going through, a
divorce having a lot of friends go. THROUGH divorces i
am friends with women who are twenty six, To, sixty like,
no joke you saw my. BIRTHDAY bird i really. IT'S
funny I never i never ask SOMEONE when i hang out,
with him how knew how old. They are it's never
been a question. For ME but i think anyone who
was mature or past that like new young stage, of love,
be direct don't. Play games and there's that saying that
if he, likes you, you'll know if, he doesn't you'll.
Be confused joe was, so FORWARD like i want to be,
WITH you i want us to fall, in love and
he Actually was i'm not going to sleep with you
until you let me call you.
Speaker 1: My.
Speaker 2: Girlfriend wow, yeah yeah which was so different than the.
Speaker 1: Last year he needs to, get, laid, so yeah fucking girlfriend.
It is Yeah, he oh.
Speaker 2: But no it took me a BIT because i was
terrified over what of being in an. ACTUAL relationship i didn't,
want that but it was. So hard he showed me,
so much how much he wanted to be.
Speaker 1: With me how hard is it with you? Have, children
uh it's it's. It's hard i've had my kid come
home and and someone will. Be there and it, was nothing.
Absolutely nothing but he would go he said to me
like he was very charming and, all this and then
said to, ME later i live, here, Too YEAH and i,
would go what are you? Talking about because to me
it was it was. Absolutely nothing it was, a woman
but it. Meant. Nothing yeah and his, thing, WAS well
i live, here too and this Is where i'm. Learning
ABOUT and i equated to the love. LANGUAGE talk i
heard my sister and brother in law talking about this
ONCE and i, was, like MAN fuck, i mean but it's,
to me it's it's almost like, A boss a great
boss understands what makes, you tick what's Gonna. Make laura
laura wants to be at every soccer game for, a
kid and she needs to leave by. Three o'clock AND
if I pay laura sixty thousand dollars, a year she's. Fucking,
HAPPY meanwhile I got dan, over Here and dan wants
to run through walls and he wants to make one
hundred and, fifty thousand and he's gonna work you know
twenty four. TO seven i don't need To make Laura.
AND dan i don't have to see them. AS equals
i Can see laura, as hey you go and you're
happy to. Do that i'm happy that, You're here i'm
happy you, have That and i'm happy you. Accept This
and dan wants to do THAT and. I go it's
almost like the love language is more what makes. You
tick and So as i'm listening to, you know my kid,
AND stuff, i go there's different, Things here LIKE what
i would take is disrespect isn't. Necessarily disrespect it's. Something
DIFFERENT and, i wonder like even, with you as you
look at, your kids your boyfriend and, YOUR stuff i.
DON'T know i have no idea what it.
Speaker 2: Just said and you just said the same scenario that
you said like two. Segments AGO probably i love, your bell.
Speaker 1: My, fucking hammer. Your HEART am? I really it's?
Speaker 2: So Great.
Speaker 1: Or i'm gonna? Fucking? Die WHAT? Am? I really WHAT do?
I do.
Speaker 2: Please check in on us tomorrow call five eight five.
Speaker 1: Two eighty eight. Sixty, six okay why did the fucking?
Cameras out? MORE time i need?
Speaker 2: More like that was, A, great no it was so
amazing you just did the whole again and talking about what.
People text but then so many TIMES like i lose
thought my kids and my kids are.
Speaker 1: But. Meaning joe that's the part Where like janison came
in and there was nothing. Going, on. Yeah nothing BUT
when i came, Back up, he's, like, hey man can
you give me a? Heads Up and, i'm. LIKE bro
i Didn't know i'm saying bro to. MY kid i
didn't know that this person was. STOPPING by i had.
No idea it, Means nothing it, meant nothing but to
him it. Meant everything so how hard is that? For
you THAT'S where i.
Speaker 2: WAS going i was very Serious about JOE before i
introduced the kids, to.
Speaker 1: Him SEEING now i think. It's important but there.
Speaker 2: Were also there was like one Guy That, lucas MATT
that i had hung out with like a. Year before
we're gonna Call him zach because that was. His NAME
but i hung Out with zach and like the FALL
of i, don't know twenty twenty two, or whatever and.
Speaker 1: It just zach. Was, eighteen, No.
Speaker 2: No zach he was probably a couple of years.
Speaker 4: But not.
Speaker 2: For me. Oh no and then like a year later
he had, reached out tried to rekindle it AND like i, was,
like no we can just. Be friends but we ended
up taking our kids to a football, game Together a bill's,
game together because he, was, Like oh i'm going to
Go with let's Call him noah because as it was,
his SON and i, was, LIKE oh i have Tickets
for lucas.
Speaker 1: And he would say that you're terrible as, this game
so let's call, Him well noah because that was, His name.
Speaker 2: Zach if you're listening or if you say This on
instagram because you still follow me, and like, my. Shit
whoa But so Zach and Noah and LUCAS and i
went To a bills game Together and Lucas and noah
hit it off because they're like nine and ten in
the backseat together and, they're like you two, should DATE
and i was, like no did it like not going to?
Work out but we ran into my ex husband who
was also at, the GAME and i, Was, like ethan This,
is zach This, is Ethan and zach, was, like oh
that gave me like the biggest big dick Energy because
zach is, a, big tall like good looking guy and, he's,
Like yeah ethan just looked at me and was, like,
oh intimidated but we were. Just there we went, as
friends like, you know and so that Was maybe, lucas,
says first how hard is it.
Speaker 1: To be i'll, say you but a woman like misconstrued things,
with GUYS.
Speaker 2: And i do think they not. LEAD people, i, tried
no not. LEAD people i.
Speaker 1: BELIEVE that i, believe THAT but i might.
Speaker 2: Call a horror in. A slut and that's what Happened
with zach IS because i want to commit. To him,
he's like you're. A whore oh, MY gosh i TOLD
you i did not want. A, relationship.
Speaker 1: Yeah right and you try to be opening.
Speaker 2: Up, front yeah it WAS very i, was very very.
Speaker 1: Very clear it's INTERESTING because i always wonder with women
because as, a guy you're, just, like, yeah, whatever, Whatever
whatever but you hear the stories and on the other
end of that is not just. A story it's a,
human being and it's somebody who. Has FEELINGS and i
think sometimes when women are put in compromising positions and
so to get out, of that maybe they give. It,
up yeah, you know and it feels good in. The
moment they're enjoying, it too and we're onto the. Next
thing but then we call. Her. Slut yep we don't
call the. Guy slut we don't say nasty things. About
him and that's the stuff, THAT like i wish there
was a WAY that, i could LIKE if i could
get my three sons here on the podcast even and
just find a way to articulate that without, you know
you Know what, i'm saying without opening up an avenue
for them. To go, but, she, yeah yeah you know
you used to hear, about well she dressed a. Slutty,
WAY okay i can't argue that there are some outfits
that are probably a little more provocative. Than others but
that doesn't mean that she can't wear that and not
want you to. Do something is she looking? For? Attention
probably does she necessarily want it? From? You probably do
you Understand what, i'm saying oh, And so but yet
we throw it into this general thing and go but
we want the attention from you and. We're guys it's
a little. More Neutral like i'm going to show off
on the basketball court and if you pay attention, TO
me i, look Good but i'm not wearing something that
you knows, nu huggers so all of a sudden you
can see my, you know my camel toe. Or whatever.
YOU know i hate to be, that graphic but do
you Understand what? I'm, Saying LIKE and i think that
to Me as i've gotten OLDER and i did not have.
Any daughters and it's funny because we're writing a pilot
right now and in the pilot it's based on, my
LIFE but i have a thirteen year. Old daughter the
character the main characters the main character as the thirteen year.
Old daughter and it's changed my thinking a little bit
IN that i, was, LIKE oh i never thought, of
this but it's a way to separate Myself from but,
believe me this is. Painful enough it's fucked. PAINFUL enough
i have no idea why we're. Doing this but the
Uh as, I'M watched i, go boy being A woman
i think is very hard because every guy you know
wants to stick their dick. In it i'm sorry to be.
Speaker 2: That, blunt no, it's TRUE and i feel like there
are times where EVEN if i went out and sweatpants in.
The sweatshirt here's the.
Speaker 1: Worst, part though you're on, This podcast you've said a lot.
Of things you've been very open. About stuff some guy
hears that and goes and you shoot. Them down what. The,
fuck yeah, come on you're. A horror i know you're.
A horror i. Heard that do you Know understand, i'm
saying but we can't. Protect that, but yet at the,
same time if it was, Another guy we've had guys
in here talk about watching people paying them, to watch
and we don't say anything but negative. About that what?
Is THAT and i don't mean to BE like i hope, people,
go oh you're gying fucking vagina and you're a little
bit of a. Woke guy i'm. Not woke i'm. Not
anything i'm just pointing out this has BEEN since i
hatched on. THE planet i have felt, this.
Speaker 2: Way well earlier when you were talking about what's the
word that, you use LIKE when i pick up. On,
VIBRATIONS yes i have always met an. Energy PERSON so
i actually was not someone who was on the. Dating
apps really IT was i met people out and about
and it was always you give good ENERGY and i
just hit it off and it did not call it
care race age like worry about. YOU know i met,
a guy the football player Down, in florida right and
HIM and i had an, amazing connection but he Lived.
In cincinnati like it is all about just that energy
and what you put, out there.
Speaker 1: And and i'm attracted.
Speaker 2: To that.
Speaker 1: So in IN that i will talk about men's vulnerability
and not being able to measure up necessarily like my,
digging boom and and yet that doesn't really Necessarily necessarily
i'm not going to say, it doesn't but necessarily it.
Doesn't matter no.
Speaker 2: CAN if i were to Talk About joel's, joe's vulnerability, no,
no no no. No no he SUPPORT when i say. About
this and it was other, people too when they would
walk into. MY house i HAVE not i have a. Nice,
HOUSE yes i had a few GUYS who i hung
out with after a. Few dates if they, Came over, they're,
like oh you just. Live here my ex husband makes
a good amount, of, money right AND so i feel
like you got to measure up to ANYONE that i
have dated ever. Since him they realize that and, they're, Like,
oh God like. I'M not i don't make half a million.
A year but that's that is NOT what i. Care
ABOUT never i. Believe, that yeah it was it was a, nice,
benefit sure but it was NEVER what i. Cared ABOUT
but i think that to men, to women you compare
how you look compared To.
Speaker 1: Any, oh shit it's so funny.
Speaker 2: To a guy you compare how much.
Speaker 1: YOU make i heard about women in overalls over the
age of forty the.
Speaker 2: Other day, oh, yeah yeah, Oh, yeah okay.
Speaker 1: You're, over forty Shouldn't, Wear okay i'll.
Speaker 2: WEAR overalls i don't give. A shit, i Mean as
i'm in my black leggings and a sweatshirt.
Speaker 1: RIGHT now i think black leggings seen that the sweatshow
would be. More acceptable but it is funny that that's
a very good point. That. YOU yeah i think guys
are very sensitive to those sorts, of things and there's
something in our psyche where you can't be in the
moment with. The person AND what i always try to,
tell anybody especially, my son's is if somebody's giving you
their time to be, with you appreciate. The time don't.
Waste it try to appreciate it as much, As possible
try to, be fun try to, be alive try to enhance.
Their time because all of us only have so much
time in, the planet the fact that they're spending it
with you is a. REAL compliment i really, think that
and it's SOMETHING that i think is lost on all.
Of us we, all, think eh it's A, fucking, MONDAY
man i gotta, YOU know i gotta Go see laura at,
five o'clock fuck law. Or, whatever No but i'm just saying.
Like whatever and the, thing, is No and laura could
do and other things with. Her time that's her gift
and the fact that she's sharing it. With you should. Appreciate,
That yeah and that's the. Wine, talking no that's.
Speaker 2: The truth time, is.
Speaker 1: Valuable yes oll of our but everybody's time. Is VALUE
and i think that all of us need to really
recognize that because your time. Is finite at, some point
you do leave this form in. This planet and, you
know if you want to make the most, of whatever
or you want to have, a life shouldn't. Be miserable
it SHOULD be i think it should. Be happy you should.
Be happy and if someone's giving you, the time that's
their gift.
Speaker 2: To you one of the Things that.
Speaker 1: I've Done if kevin doesn't come to your fourtieth, birthday
party he SHOWED the i am no gift.
Speaker 2: To, You No i'm i'm not worthy of. His time
BUT like i have always one of my things to
DECOMPRESS because i have clients, To, her like how do
you go like this all, day LONG and, i say
do you compress? THAT night i read a lot. OF,
books i, you. Know relax but this doing. The podcast
when people FIND out i do the podcast, or like
how is, That time, i'm like, to me. IT'S creative
i have always been. A writer, I write i've TALKED
about i write a lot. OF poetry i write, A
journal and, to me this is still like a. Creative
outlet so instead of sitting.
Speaker 1: At home oh we're talking about a lot.
Speaker 2: Of yeah but still instead of sitting at home writing or,
you know, doing reading this is still creative.
Speaker 1: To me how long have you? Kept journals?
Speaker 2: Long TIME like i can find journals from? HIGH school
i WOULD you i don't journal, every DAY but i journal.
Speaker 1: A lot but would you ever read your journal from
like ten years ago on? This day so could we
Do a laura on? This day like, you know what
are we in twenty? Twenty five dark journals? Twenty fifteen
but it wouldn't it be fun to hear you read
it and then explain what you were feeling at that
moment and how that. HAS transformed i really think that
one of the great things about things like what we're,
doing here the independence of it is that it's not beholden.
TO anybody. I don't i don't have overlords from whatever
network telling me it's A little Mooring, and LAURA because
i think that's one of the most. Relatable, things yeah in,
my opinion you reading your journal from ten, years ago
fifteen years ago, and, saying hey didn't turn out.
Speaker 2: That, way yeah but like something could.
Speaker 1: Help, THOUSANDS yeah. I don't i.
Speaker 2: Write it's a lot. Of poetry it's a LOT of.
Speaker 1: I would love to hear. YOUR poetry i am curious about.
Speaker 2: Mean, poetry, mean yeah it's a lot about.
Speaker 1: That you motherfucking hicic with your small, you.
Speaker 2: Know it's a lot about the guy and like promises and.
All that BUT then i also write a lot to.
Speaker 1: My. Kids healthy oh it.
Speaker 2: Is healthy it's.
Speaker 1: REALLY healthy i.
Speaker 2: Think the LAST thing i Wrote was lucas's. TENTH birthday
i wrote him a note because he said to me
the other DAY that I favorite camden anger one. Is
hurt it didn't hurt because it's, somewhat True because camden.
Needs me cam is the one who has like, some disabilities, YOU,
know adhd impulse, behavior Control and lucas is so independent and,
self sufficient AND so i sort of wrote a Note
to lucas comparing that to how my mom was with
me and. MY kids i was always the independent one
and my sister was always the one who needed like
a little more guidance from. My MOM and i, wrote
THAT like i wrote a whole Thing to Lucas that
i'll eventually give, to him but that was the LAST thing.
I wrote it has to be inspired, By something, SO
yeah i.
Speaker 1: DON'T know i think it's.
Speaker 2: Very, interesting yeah because he's not going to understand it.
Right Now at i'm not going to Understand that cam needs, me,
more right But that i'm like so Proud, Of, lucas
yes for at ten being who he is.
Speaker 1: And, confident, solid athletic like all. THOSE things i. See
IT and i don't even know. The kid really a.
Speaker 2: Single MOM when i only have them half, the time
THERE'S sometimes i need.
Speaker 1: A guy will you give them? Those?
Speaker 2: LETTERS absolutely i. Have started i've had a journal going
for both of THEM since i was pregnant with each. Of,
Them wow and it's like that's sort of it's always
been a thought of like their wedding gift.
Speaker 1: Or something there was a GIRL that i was absolutely
infatuated and, prevented myself if there's such a thing as
from falling in Love with and we had, hooked UP
but i was in some relationship sort of, half in half.
Out clearly and she told me that she wrote a
letter basically what we would Call a lincoln letter today
and never said it about how angry. She WAS and
i thought that is the, most mature HEALTHY thing i
had ever. Heard OF but i couldn't say THAT because i,
was like oh the fuck? Is This and, i'm like
that's actually, really smart because you get out all, the
poison and the rest of us hold that poison in
and then it becomes resentment and anger and it just
you just push it down and it's.
Speaker 2: Not GOOD why I say i still have to write
about SOMEONE like i still have hurt feelings or things
that pop in my mind, at TIME and i just
write It out and a lot OF times i send
It to renee now and.
Speaker 1: She's, like oh. That's GOOD.
Speaker 2: But i used to send it. To him, You did,
oh yeah you got ship all? The time what? The
fuck especially well when we, were together he got like
a lot.
Speaker 1: Of, effusive yeah positive.
Speaker 2: But positive but then but then, EVEN afterwards i would
be like we would pass each other at picking up
our kids, or SOMETHING and i would WRITE and i
would send it to HIM because i just didn't know
how to express myself. In WORDS but i could always.
Speaker 1: Like write so and, His response i'm.
Speaker 2: SO sorry I wish i could be. With, you.
Speaker 1: Yeah and then we. Killed me, it's interesting but when
you send, your girlfriends what do? They say?
Speaker 2: That's powerful how did you just come up? With that i'll,
be like there's Been times i've literally been in a
Car with renee and like written something and, she's like
you just came up, With That and, i'm like.
Speaker 1: How does someone like that relate? To you someone who
seems a Little more she, Was, everything yeah so, but,
reserved instilled, didn't judge and.
Speaker 2: Because he would go to her and claim How.
Speaker 1: Much, yeah baby, he knew he knew the buttons as
it's a, Smart. MAN laura i apologize for whatever SHIP
show i put. ON tonight i have no idea. OF
it i bought a bottle of wine and then we
Opened up danny's bottle of wine and we finished. As
well i'm so shocked by THE time i.
Speaker 2: Got here you would drink the, whole bottle except for
you see me? A glass.
Speaker 1: What are? My guys WHAT am i? Gonna do i'm
gonna call one of your friends sick take me home to. Their.
House moran we'll see you.
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