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Speaker 1: You can.

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Speaker 2: How are you guys doing today.

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Speaker 3: I'm good, Arrow, you've got that radio energy going on.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's only because of this book. Well, thank you

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for listening to that. You guys have come up with

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a book that has touched me in the way that

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Mike Mulligan's Steamshovel did when I was a kid. This

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is what a picture book is all about.

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Speaker 3: That's so kind. Wow, I love Mike Mulligan. That's super

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well the way that.

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Speaker 2: You bring it together, especially with I mean because I

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come from a pretty big family and and I can

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relate with every character in this book, especially Estie, who's

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an outgoing person. I want my brother to have a party.

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But then again, I was the one that would hide.

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Oh you were the one who would hide always always.

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I would just go to my bedroom. I'm fine, I'm good.

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You guys do your thing. I'm okay.

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Speaker 1: So how you turn grow up to be an extrovert?

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Speaker 2: Then I think that's because I learned how to become

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an actor there, because I mean, away from this microphone.

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Who am I?

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Speaker 3: That makes sense? I guess. I mean I think a

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lot of great actors are actually introverts, and.

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Speaker 2: That's why this book is so much, so lovable, and

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it puts such a happy smile on your face because

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you're speaking about something that is actually taking place in

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our homes and you're dealing with it. You're creating a

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solution for it.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm thrilled.

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Speaker 3: I guess the solution is to realize that there is

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no solution, because there is no problem. It's okay to

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be an introvert. It's okay to read a book under

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the couch, and it's okay to be an extrovert who

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wants to bring everybody over and throw some tinfoil stars

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up in the air.

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Speaker 2: I can totally see some great merchandise coming out of this,

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in the way of a T shirt that says, which

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vert are you?

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Speaker 3: Robin? Get on that?

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Speaker 1: Well, you know that you say that arrow because I

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believe I was very much an introvert when I was

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a child, and I was a professional ballet dancer up

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till I was thirty before I became an illustrator, and

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it was also being on stage that helped me come

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out of myself. So so young kids, I think that's

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really good to be forced to do some public speaking

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and that sort of things. Even the kids who who

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find it really hard. It does help bring you out.

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Speaker 2: One of the one of the best scenes inside the

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book that really got me was the way that the

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mother knew that Ivan didn't want to have the party.

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I'm so glad that you put something like that in

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this book, because it was obvious that he didn't want

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to do it, but we needed someone to say it

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for so as readers we would go, yes, I'm not

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the only one who thinks that Ivan doesn't want to

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do this.

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Speaker 3: Well, and it's very subtle, but mostly seen through Robin's

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brilliant illustrates that the father is also an extrovert. He's

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playing music and dancing and doing the conga line in

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the living room with all the guests, and the mother

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is in the kitchen washing dishes with Ivan. There has

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never been a party in which I was not the

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person going to the kitchen washing the dishes. My sister

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is the same way, and we will argue at Thanksgiving no, no, no,

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dishes because we want to be in the kitchen by

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ourselves doing the work, and then we wind up doing

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it together.

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Speaker 1: And interesting, both of us married are opposite Ann's husband.

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When you go to a restaurant with Carl, he's like

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the mayor of the city.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: You walk in and everybody it's like cheers Carl. Everybody

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go around and shake hands with everyone, and a sort

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of splinks behind him with some bring over her head,

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like a blanket over her head. Oh dear, do I

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have to talk to every table again?

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Speaker 2: Laul I would love to watch a little ones as

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well as parents read this book in the way, especially

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when when Esti brings over the Blanche family, because there's

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gonna be those that are going, oh gaw, here they come.

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Speaker 3: Yes. And I first got the idea for all of

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this because of my stepdaughter Josephine, who is somebody who

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a giant dinner party, go to the grocery store to

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get food, meet total strangers at the grocery store, invite

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them to come to the party, and say, bring all

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of your family and your friends, and they do, and

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she's overjoyed, and I'm always thinking is there gonna be

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enough food? Is there? How are you going to do this?

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Speaker 2: What did you do differently this time around when illustrating

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the book?

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Speaker 1: Well, what happened is Anne and I had done two

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books together on the and they both took place on

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a farm because Anne grew up on a farm. Well,

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I grew up in New York City and I'm a

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city girl. And so she said, when we were ready

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to do our third book together, what would you like

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to draw? And I said, can we get off the farm?

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and then she still had to throw in some animals.

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There are seven animals at the end of the party

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in this little, tiny apartment. Esti has thrown for her

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brother this massive party, and he's, of course hiding behind

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the couch, and that's okay with SD. She learns that

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that's really what he wants, and she wants to have

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a party, and he feels that that's okay.

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Speaker 2: I can't be the only one that looks at these

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pages and thinks that all of these colors, all these

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facial expressions. It's a journey all to itself, and then

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you go in and you read the story.

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Speaker 3: When I look at those pages, I feel like I

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could spend an hour or more looking at any page

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in this book because there are so many little stories

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going on as the people are relating to one another

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that Robin did. It's brilliant, and it's so much work.

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It's so much harder to illustrate a book than it

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is to write one.

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Speaker 1: Well. Like Anne says, she writes, the sisters walk into

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the party, and then I have to figure out the

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whole storyline behind the sisters. It's really when I make

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a book, it's like I'm doing an entire movie. I

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have to do the casting and the costume design, and

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you know, figure out who all the backstories of all

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the people are and they're feeling and as each scene happens.

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these books, and it takes in you know, about an

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hour to you know, if they say, well edit it.

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not in a house. At one point they said it

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have in an apartment in you know, somewhere in the world. Ambiguous,

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and so she fixed that in about three seconds. But

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of course I had to redraw the whole book because

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it was in a whole different setting.

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Speaker 2: I've been I've been a wedding DJ for thirty two years,

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and this book kind of reminds me of mom taking

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over the daughter's wedding.

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Speaker 1: You know. I mean, it takes me want to interview you.

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Speaker 2: And it's just it's one of the there's so many

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different things that we can all relate with. In fact,

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I think that there's a business learning lesson here too

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for companies to go in say, okay, which one of

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the verts are you. Let's grow with Liz this will

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you can just be you, but we need you to

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be as stronger you by doing this. Let's tap into

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your creative energy and understand you. I mean, there's so

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many different lessons in life throughout this book.

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Speaker 1: I had already, even though the book only a premiere

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a pub yesterday, I already had a few friends who

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contacted me and said, this book isn't for kids. This

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is for adults because they were relating to this whole

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concept and maybe even understanding themselves a little bit more

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now as adults. Rather, you know, the concept's a little

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big for children, but kids totally get it because both

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of us already talked to kids and they completely get it.

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discovered the other day is that I'm more of an ambivert,

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which is half and half. For instance, Anne started the

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concept of this book came came to her through during

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the COVID period because she was as an introvert grill

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to be stuck in the house for two years and

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a lot of people, you know, were suffering. I liked it,

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but I also I missed being with people way before

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and did so I'm sort of a mixture.

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Speaker 2: There's such a great moment there with Grandma. Always wanted

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to take that picture, and Ivan reminded me so much

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of my grandson Carlos, because all he did was put

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his foot in the picture, and my son, my grandson Carlos,

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would do the same thing. There I'm in the photo.

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Speaker 3: I got to say, Grandma Bunny. Grandma Bunny is like

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Robin's great creation. She is so brilliant.

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Speaker 1: It's every Jewish person, grandmother and aunt in my family

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who's constantly judging everybody a little bit too much and

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whispering in the background, why can't they be different? And

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then I just love that the mom and dad just

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say we love them the way they are, and the

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kids at the end come to an understanding with each

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other that, you know, just because they're different and have

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different opinions, it's okay, and they appreciate each other for

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how they each react to different circumstances.

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Speaker 2: Where can people go to find out more about what

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you guys have done as a creative team.

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Speaker 3: Well, you could go to a bookstore.

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Speaker 1: Nice that bookstore.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I own an independent bookstore in Nashville called Parnassa's

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Books and any place anytime. You can go to your

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local independent bookstore and ask for books by Ann Patchett

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and Robert Price glass And this is what will happen.

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If you look for books just by Ann Patchett, then

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you're going to find novels because I'm mostly a novelist

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who writes for adults. And if you look at Robin

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Price Glasser, you're going to find fancy Nancy. That's going

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to be the first thing you're going to find, which

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is this huge juggernaut of a children's book series. It's

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kind of changed the whole landscape of children's literature. But

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then if you search both of our names, you'll find

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three books. The first one was Lambslide, which is about

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voting on the farm, The second one is a Scapegoat,

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which is about blaming farm animals for things you did yourself,

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and the third one is the Verts.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Well, please come back to this show anytime in

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the future. The door is always going to be open

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for you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: What a joy you are.

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Speaker 2: Will you'd be brilliant today? Oh please do please do. Man,

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it's a new age of a communication and connection with listeners.

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You know, it gives you that opportunity to feel like that,

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you know you're part of something.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely thank you

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm