WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.960 --> 00:00:05.200 It's night with Dan Ray. I'm tell you feazy Boston 2 00:00:05.400 --> 00:00:06.000 News Radio. 3 00:00:06.480 --> 00:00:10.119 I'm going to tell you the three communities that are 4 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:20.800 represented on my call screen, water Town, Houston, and Australia. 5 00:00:22.000 --> 00:00:25.359 Who are the only people that can draw that type 6 00:00:25.519 --> 00:00:32.119 of response, not just from Massachusetts, not just from America, 7 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:36.280 but from all over the world. The Winnakers, Bill and 8 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:38.799 Bow are here if you want to call in, and 9 00:00:38.840 --> 00:00:41.479 I'll give you the phone numbers. Do the best you 10 00:00:41.560 --> 00:00:47.039 can to grab it as quickly as you can. Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten, 11 00:00:47.119 --> 00:00:50.439 thirty eight eight, eight, nine to nine, ten thirty Bill 12 00:00:50.479 --> 00:00:50.840 and Bow? 13 00:00:51.200 --> 00:00:52.600 How the heck are you guys? 14 00:00:53.039 --> 00:00:53.560 We're great? 15 00:00:53.600 --> 00:00:54.000 How are you? 16 00:00:54.119 --> 00:00:54.479 Morgan? 17 00:00:54.719 --> 00:00:57.200 I'm doing very well. Did you hear the lineup that 18 00:00:57.240 --> 00:00:58.960 we have awaiting you? 19 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:01.679 That actually gave me goosebumps? 20 00:01:01.920 --> 00:01:02.799 I couldn't believe it. 21 00:01:03.399 --> 00:01:09.200 Well, let's I've got somebody spending long distance money from Australia. 22 00:01:09.319 --> 00:01:12.879 So let's take Barbara in Australia first, and we'll deal 23 00:01:12.920 --> 00:01:16.079 with who you guys are to strangers with a little 24 00:01:16.079 --> 00:01:18.799 introduction as we take phone calls. 25 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:23.439 Barbara. Uh, pardon me for saying it this way, but good. 26 00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:27.879 I goody, goody. 27 00:01:28.120 --> 00:01:32.560 Mike and Barbara when you're a little girl. 28 00:01:32.599 --> 00:01:35.799 Did you watch the exploits of Skippy the Bush Kangaroo? 29 00:01:37.480 --> 00:01:39.879 No, I lived in America. 30 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:45.879 Oh okay, so why oh there you go? 31 00:01:47.079 --> 00:01:51.079 How do you goletter? 32 00:01:51.519 --> 00:01:53.799 We read the newsletter, so we said we're going to 33 00:01:53.879 --> 00:01:55.200 ring in and say hello. 34 00:01:55.480 --> 00:01:57.480 Well, thanks for calling you're first. 35 00:01:58.560 --> 00:02:02.719 This is amazing, Thank you so much. Hi, how are 36 00:02:02.760 --> 00:02:04.120 you guys? 37 00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:08.080 Very very well? Barbara is Rodney nearby? 38 00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:10.680 He is, He's right with me. 39 00:02:11.479 --> 00:02:16.439 God, Wow, it's so great to hear your voice. What 40 00:02:16.560 --> 00:02:18.719 a wonderful way to start our show tonight. 41 00:02:20.719 --> 00:02:21.080 Yeah. 42 00:02:21.199 --> 00:02:23.719 Well, we, as I said, we read the newsletters, so 43 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:25.919 we said we'd better call in say hello. 44 00:02:26.879 --> 00:02:30.199 Well, we appreciate that so much. We we so enjoyed 45 00:02:30.199 --> 00:02:34.960 your visit not so long ago. It's always a treat 46 00:02:34.960 --> 00:02:39.360 to see you both, and even more so tonight for 47 00:02:39.439 --> 00:02:42.159 you to take the time to reach out to us. 48 00:02:42.680 --> 00:02:43.439 What would you like to. 49 00:02:43.439 --> 00:02:47.360 Tell Morgan and people all over America right now? 50 00:02:49.759 --> 00:02:52.960 Well, I'd like to say that the Winnakers are the best. 51 00:02:53.120 --> 00:02:55.159 If you love swing, is it there though? 52 00:02:56.240 --> 00:02:57.159 Well we all knew that. 53 00:02:58.759 --> 00:03:05.879 Yeah, that's wonderful. Rodney, What would you like to say? 54 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:13.520 These are two beautiful people. And when we visit I'm 55 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:16.960 from Australia, Barbara's originally from America if she's lived here 56 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:19.840 for a long time, and then we visit to Boston, 57 00:03:20.039 --> 00:03:22.439 it's always a treat to visit. 58 00:03:22.360 --> 00:03:25.400 Bill and Bow and their mother. Just beautiful people. 59 00:03:26.120 --> 00:03:29.280 Well, thank you for those kind words. Radio. 60 00:03:29.919 --> 00:03:32.680 Yeah, all right, well, I thank you for calling in 61 00:03:32.759 --> 00:03:34.680 and being first. 62 00:03:35.520 --> 00:03:36.680 We really be willed. 63 00:03:37.840 --> 00:03:38.680 Thank you so much. 64 00:03:38.919 --> 00:03:42.240 Take a care, great to hear from you. 65 00:03:42.479 --> 00:03:42.960 Good value. 66 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:49.120 Two lines open A line is available six one, seven, two, five, four, ten, 67 00:03:49.240 --> 00:03:53.039 thirty eight, eight, eight nine to nineteen thirty And I'm 68 00:03:53.080 --> 00:03:56.560 going to ask either one of you to give your 69 00:03:56.680 --> 00:04:01.840 backstory for people who've never heard of Bill Bow Winnaker. 70 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:04.319 Tell your history. Tell your story. 71 00:04:05.159 --> 00:04:11.800 Well, interestingly enough, when I was ten years of age, 72 00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:16.879 I joined my father's band. My father was a very 73 00:04:17.040 --> 00:04:22.639 well known band leader in the Boston area, and he 74 00:04:22.680 --> 00:04:26.639 had his first band in nineteen thirty nine, and he 75 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:29.959 played all over New England with that band. And he 76 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:34.199 told the musicians in this regular band that someday he 77 00:04:34.319 --> 00:04:36.560 was going to have a family band. And the guys 78 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:38.680 in this band, they figured that when Bo and Bill 79 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:44.399 graduated college, they would probably join his band. But my 80 00:04:44.480 --> 00:04:47.079 father was very forward thinking, and when I was ten, 81 00:04:47.160 --> 00:04:49.800 he thought I was ready to join his band. And 82 00:04:50.120 --> 00:04:52.079 we had been rehearsing for about a year and a 83 00:04:52.120 --> 00:04:54.240 half or so, and he had taught us maybe one 84 00:04:54.319 --> 00:04:57.360 hundred songs. By then, Bill was bringing on his drums 85 00:04:57.519 --> 00:04:59.199 as a young boy, and he knew he was going 86 00:04:59.240 --> 00:05:02.439 to be a rummer. I had a lot of hot air, 87 00:05:02.600 --> 00:05:04.920 and my father thought that the trumpet would be perfect 88 00:05:04.959 --> 00:05:09.240 for me, and it was. And then sure enough, one 89 00:05:09.439 --> 00:05:12.319 Mother's Day, soon after, my father came home with a 90 00:05:12.360 --> 00:05:15.160 string base for my mother. Some of your listeners have 91 00:05:15.240 --> 00:05:18.000 heard this story before, but it's still a good story. 92 00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:21.240 He brought a string base for my mother and she 93 00:05:21.399 --> 00:05:24.959 was expecting a washer and dryer and was I don't think. 94 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:28.160 I don't think. She talked to my father for two 95 00:05:28.240 --> 00:05:32.519 weeks afterwards because she was so upset, but she learned 96 00:05:32.839 --> 00:05:35.600 the base and the four of us played together for 97 00:05:35.680 --> 00:05:39.120 coast to twenty years. We traveled all over New England. 98 00:05:39.199 --> 00:05:42.480 We spent two summers on Block Island, two summers on 99 00:05:42.560 --> 00:05:46.000 Cape Cod, four summers at a resort in Maine, five 100 00:05:46.040 --> 00:05:49.560 summers on the Provincetown boat, and then the biggest break 101 00:05:49.560 --> 00:05:52.240 of our life came when we started working at the 102 00:05:52.279 --> 00:05:55.439 Parker House hotel, and we would end up working and 103 00:05:55.480 --> 00:06:00.279 performing at the hotel years. My mother and father lived 104 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:03.199 in the hotel, pretending those years they had dinner with 105 00:06:03.279 --> 00:06:06.360 mister and Missus Dunphy, the owners of the hotel, just 106 00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:11.120 about every single night, and boy, that really sped up 107 00:06:12.199 --> 00:06:15.600 us getting known in the city of Boston. People would 108 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:18.879 come from Beacon Hill, you know, they come from the 109 00:06:18.920 --> 00:06:21.759 State House. People would come from all the hospitals. Many 110 00:06:21.800 --> 00:06:25.079 people we played at the Parker House from nineteen seventy 111 00:06:25.079 --> 00:06:29.079 seven to nineteen ninety one, and many people that are 112 00:06:29.079 --> 00:06:33.279 listening to this show tonight. Many people had their first 113 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:36.920 dates at the Last Hurrah and the Parker House and 114 00:06:37.439 --> 00:06:40.240 would end up getting married there. And of course we 115 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:42.079 were the house band in the hotel, so we would 116 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:44.920 in addition to playing in the Last Hurrah, my father 117 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:47.160 was leading a band, then my brother Bill was leading 118 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:49.560 a band. I was leading a band. We would have 119 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:52.079 a band upstairs on the roof of the hotel for 120 00:06:52.160 --> 00:06:55.240 the weddings, and then we would have a piano six 121 00:06:55.360 --> 00:07:00.160 nights a week in Parker's restaurant and a harvest on Sundays. 122 00:07:00.759 --> 00:07:05.560 So the Parker House was really what really turned things up, 123 00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:09.040 turn the heat up for us, and it was a 124 00:07:09.079 --> 00:07:12.759 great opportunity. But since then, we left the hotel in 125 00:07:12.839 --> 00:07:15.480 ninety one and then a couple of years later we 126 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:18.759 went to Washington, DC with the twenty one Orchestra and 127 00:07:18.800 --> 00:07:24.040 we played at pill Clinton's inaugural ball. Aretha Franklin staying 128 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:26.319 with our band that night. That was that was something 129 00:07:26.360 --> 00:07:28.079 I'll never forget as long as I live. 130 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:30.120 All Right, bo bo bo bo bo, I'm going to 131 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:37.680 stop you here, take a break. We've got oh my goodness, Watertown, Gloucester, Houston, 132 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:43.680 and Westwood all calling in to talk with the Winnaker brothers. 133 00:07:43.920 --> 00:07:50.439 You want to join the ones on hold six one, seven, two, five, four, ten, thirty, eight, eight, eight, nine, two, nine, 134 00:07:50.439 --> 00:07:53.639 ten thirty. We'll get you through two time and temperature 135 00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:58.879 here on night Side ten sixteen seventy five degrees. 136 00:08:00.000 --> 00:08:04.160 Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World 137 00:08:04.279 --> 00:08:07.439 night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio. 138 00:08:08.040 --> 00:08:11.319 We've got callers coming out of the woodworks to speak 139 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:14.720 to Bill and Bo Winnaker. So let's go to Watertown 140 00:08:14.759 --> 00:08:18.199 and speak with Neil. Neil, you're next here on night side. 141 00:08:19.439 --> 00:08:22.839 Hello, good evening. The reason I'm calling is though, because 142 00:08:23.439 --> 00:08:25.720 I know one of the brothers, Bill and Bow. I'm 143 00:08:25.759 --> 00:08:29.120 not sure which, but they called one night. He called 144 00:08:29.120 --> 00:08:33.000 one night and answer the question and who was playing 145 00:08:33.039 --> 00:08:35.200 Red Nichols And it was Danny Kay. Is that correct? 146 00:08:35.679 --> 00:08:38.679 That was over the weekend? Yes, that is correct? 147 00:08:38.759 --> 00:08:40.879 All right? So and then I put that in my mind. 148 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:45.039 The brothers knew about Arthur Price Sock, and they knew 149 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:47.879 about musicians on the Art Link Letter Show. But the 150 00:08:47.919 --> 00:08:54.879 reason I'm calling is Red Nichols had a guitar player 151 00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:59.000 and his name was Luigi Francisco Valaro and he was 152 00:08:59.080 --> 00:09:03.000 eighteen years old, and I guess he was. Then he 153 00:09:03.360 --> 00:09:06.919 went to the Sammy K Band and he was known 154 00:09:06.919 --> 00:09:09.279 as lou Rolaro. In the nineteen forty two we got 155 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:13.279 booed because Mussolini had just made a pack with Hitler, right, 156 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:17.519 so he's Sammy Kay said no offense, but you have 157 00:09:17.600 --> 00:09:21.440 to change your name. And and so he's up there 158 00:09:21.519 --> 00:09:23.519 and he's going to make his debut as a singer 159 00:09:23.559 --> 00:09:25.759 because he's a good singer. And he says, ladies and gentlemen, 160 00:09:25.919 --> 00:09:30.000 Don Cornell and Don Cornell, who's that? And is that 161 00:09:30.480 --> 00:09:31.840 story essentially true or am I. 162 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:38.279 Just well, Don Cornell was got very famous, so I 163 00:09:38.279 --> 00:09:42.000 don't know that story. But Don Cornell became a household 164 00:09:42.039 --> 00:09:44.320 word in those days. 165 00:09:44.799 --> 00:09:48.799 All right, Okay, Yeah, one of his friends was telling 166 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:50.360 us on a radio show and I was just I 167 00:09:50.399 --> 00:09:52.919 wasn't listening critically, but I just it's just a memory 168 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:57.600 that I have, Okay. And one other thing, Morgan, Don Cornell, 169 00:09:58.840 --> 00:10:02.080 because I know you talked to Dale Evans's daughter, Is 170 00:10:02.120 --> 00:10:02.559 that correct? 171 00:10:02.759 --> 00:10:02.960 Yes? 172 00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:07.039 I did, and he he made a cover of the 173 00:10:07.080 --> 00:10:10.600 Bible Tells Me So, which was written by her, and 174 00:10:10.639 --> 00:10:13.799 she wrote a letter to and thanked him for putting 175 00:10:13.799 --> 00:10:16.120 the song on the map in England. 176 00:10:16.919 --> 00:10:22.639 Okay, O'Neil, you're very well versed in music. 177 00:10:23.440 --> 00:10:26.360 I'm reliable, so I just was hoping, well, thank you. 178 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:27.600 For bringing it to the table. 179 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:29.080 All right, thank you very much. 180 00:10:29.240 --> 00:10:33.799 Good night to you, and hello to Gloucester. Let's go 181 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:39.000 to Dana in Gloucester. Hello, Dana, Hi, how. 182 00:10:38.840 --> 00:10:39.159 Are you. 183 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:41.720 Hi? 184 00:10:41.799 --> 00:10:42.039 Bill? 185 00:10:42.480 --> 00:10:43.879 Hi Bo? This is Dan. 186 00:10:44.159 --> 00:10:46.799 Good evening, Good evening, Dana. Great to hear your voice, 187 00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:48.480 and thank you so much for calling tonight. 188 00:10:49.360 --> 00:10:53.559 Sure sure, I thought I would briefly tell the story 189 00:10:53.639 --> 00:10:58.159 of how I met Bill and Bow in nineteen sixty eight. Okay, 190 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:03.840 kind of assassinated story. I grew up in Newton, Massachusetts, 191 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:07.759 and my family decided to vacation up at Point Sebago 192 00:11:08.000 --> 00:11:12.039 in Maine. And I was up there, and I was 193 00:11:12.080 --> 00:11:16.159 fourteen years old at the time, and figured i'd go 194 00:11:16.200 --> 00:11:18.240 to the recreation room to see if they had a 195 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:21.360 ping pong table because I always loved ping pong. I 196 00:11:21.440 --> 00:11:27.879 walked in and there's a boy about my age standing there. 197 00:11:27.879 --> 00:11:30.399 I introduced myself and I challenged him to a ping 198 00:11:30.480 --> 00:11:34.519 pong game. Little did I know it was Bo Winnaker. 199 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:38.519 And we get to talking as we're volleying, and I 200 00:11:38.559 --> 00:11:40.240 asked him what he was doing there. He said he 201 00:11:40.320 --> 00:11:43.519 was there with his family band, and I got all 202 00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:47.039 excited because I had just taken up trombone and I 203 00:11:47.080 --> 00:11:49.279 had only had a few lessons. I hardly knew what 204 00:11:49.360 --> 00:11:52.559 I was doing, but Bo was kind enough to invite 205 00:11:52.559 --> 00:11:56.320 me to play with the family band that night, which 206 00:11:56.360 --> 00:12:01.320 I thought it was absolutely amazing, and I took him 207 00:12:01.399 --> 00:12:06.080 up on the offer, and I ended up playing I'm 208 00:12:06.080 --> 00:12:10.639 Getting Sentimental over You with the Winnaker family, and it's 209 00:12:10.679 --> 00:12:14.039 something I'll always remember it was quite something. 210 00:12:14.200 --> 00:12:17.039 Yes, And you know what, Dana, I can remember that 211 00:12:17.200 --> 00:12:20.039 it was many many years ago. I can't remember exactly when, 212 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:22.639 as you said, we were both yeah, sixty eight maybe 213 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:26.000 something like that, but I remember vividly and I remember 214 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:29.639 how much fun that was having you join us. 215 00:12:30.840 --> 00:12:33.879 It was a blast. I mean, it was just something 216 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:37.879 that I've always remembered and thinking back, that was the 217 00:12:37.919 --> 00:12:43.600 start of a fifty six year friendship started that that 218 00:12:43.799 --> 00:12:45.639 evening over the ping pong table. 219 00:12:46.799 --> 00:12:50.320 Well, thank you so much for taking the time to 220 00:12:50.639 --> 00:12:52.679 be in touch with us, and we really appreciate it. 221 00:12:52.759 --> 00:12:55.799 And it's great to hear your voice. 222 00:12:56.440 --> 00:12:59.759 Oh, thank you both. Good night, good night, Thank you 223 00:12:59.759 --> 00:13:01.679 you by bye. 224 00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:07.240 Let's go to Houston and speak with Dan. Dan, welcome tonight, Morgan. 225 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:11.559 How are you. I'm finding you, sir, I'm great. Can 226 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:13.200 you hear me loud and clear? 227 00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:17.000 Fantastic? Well, it's such a treat to be on I 228 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:20.200 guess this is my third time talking with you, Morgan. 229 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:26.080 Okay, and uh, hey guys, hey Dan. 230 00:13:28.759 --> 00:13:29.039 You know. 231 00:13:32.519 --> 00:13:37.519 Everything that people have said is so wonderful and important, 232 00:13:37.559 --> 00:13:40.799 But I I would add a different dimension to this, 233 00:13:40.960 --> 00:13:44.799 you know. I uh, I'm a cancer doctor at m. 234 00:13:44.879 --> 00:13:48.679 D Anderson Cancer Center and uh, I'm just finishing up 235 00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:51.759 my career. I'm going to be retiring end of August. 236 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:55.720 And it's been twenty two years and I'm a Boston kid. 237 00:13:55.840 --> 00:13:59.000 I'm going to be coming back to the Northeast. Okay, 238 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:04.399 but I've I've been playing with Bill and both since 239 00:14:04.480 --> 00:14:11.840 nineteen sixty seven and we've performed many times together. The 240 00:14:12.279 --> 00:14:17.799 music is is tops. But you know what they bring 241 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:24.879 in addition to that is an honesty and magic from 242 00:14:25.120 --> 00:14:28.120 the music that it relates to everybody. You watch these 243 00:14:28.159 --> 00:14:33.919 guys play, and everybody's happy. And even people who don't 244 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:43.360 really have musical history musical performance in their in their life, 245 00:14:43.919 --> 00:14:48.320 they can see the musicians enjoying what they're doing and 246 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:55.159 bringing entertainment to people, and and and and and honesty 247 00:14:55.799 --> 00:14:59.120 and the number of people that we've interacted with in 248 00:14:59.159 --> 00:15:02.559 our lives. The the three of us young people who've 249 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:07.120 learned music, and music is the great equalizer, right. There's 250 00:15:07.159 --> 00:15:13.519 no there's no politics, there's no issues about who came 251 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:17.480 from where. It's just the music that unites us. All 252 00:15:17.600 --> 00:15:19.360 all the people know. 253 00:15:19.759 --> 00:15:24.039 I'm going to I'm going to give credit where credit 254 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:30.639 is due. Their father Billain. Bo's father taught them not 255 00:15:30.759 --> 00:15:35.159 just how to play an instrument, but taught them what 256 00:15:35.360 --> 00:15:40.279 music can be when it's done properly in front of 257 00:15:40.519 --> 00:15:44.799 an assembled group. Am I right when I say that? 258 00:15:44.919 --> 00:15:45.039 Bo? 259 00:15:45.320 --> 00:15:45.600 Bill? 260 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:46.960 Oh? 261 00:15:47.000 --> 00:15:47.679 Absolutely? 262 00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:52.440 And you know doctor Yeah, let me tell you this. 263 00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:55.159 So we're talking to doctor Dan carp And when my 264 00:15:55.279 --> 00:15:59.679 father was a manufacturer's representative for the Gretz Drum Company, 265 00:16:00.159 --> 00:16:02.559 he would have to go to these conventions and Dan 266 00:16:02.639 --> 00:16:07.080 would fill in with the family band on piano, and 267 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:10.399 Dan played so much with us. After those years of 268 00:16:10.440 --> 00:16:13.399 the family band, Dan would actually became a band leader 269 00:16:13.960 --> 00:16:16.600 for us until he had to take a big job 270 00:16:16.679 --> 00:16:20.559 down in Texas. But Dan's a great musician, Morgan and. 271 00:16:20.639 --> 00:16:24.200 A great guy. 272 00:16:24.600 --> 00:16:30.000 Well, thank you. We're three brothers. And Edwinaker was a 273 00:16:30.039 --> 00:16:36.519 genius and he and his genius was in the way 274 00:16:36.679 --> 00:16:44.679 he took music, the big band arrangements and he he 275 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:49.559 made them into a six eight piece ensemble and captured 276 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:54.000 all the magic of that music. But again, more than that, 277 00:16:54.799 --> 00:16:57.600 he hired all different kinds of people and it was 278 00:16:57.639 --> 00:17:00.840 only because they were They love the music and they 279 00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:03.200 were good. He didn't care who they were. We didn't 280 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:05.599 care who we were playing for it was just all 281 00:17:07.160 --> 00:17:13.720 a wonderful emotional high uh and I and and just 282 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:17.680 it just again. It brings people together. But not only that, 283 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:21.759 we uh, you know, we're I'm gonna put in an 284 00:17:21.759 --> 00:17:25.640 old plug for Camp Encore in Maine where we've been 285 00:17:25.880 --> 00:17:28.960 and the guys have a beautiful house up in Maine 286 00:17:28.960 --> 00:17:34.240 and Naples, Maine, and we've played at this music camp 287 00:17:34.319 --> 00:17:39.480 and three generations of kids have come through teaching, learning 288 00:17:39.519 --> 00:17:43.759 from Bill and Bill and being mentored by them, and 289 00:17:44.240 --> 00:17:48.880 people who've either gone on to be very wonderful professional 290 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:53.000 musicians or professionals in other areas. One of the guys 291 00:17:53.039 --> 00:17:55.400 that we're going to see this week when I come 292 00:17:55.440 --> 00:17:59.720 back for a reunion at camp is a guy who 293 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:03.160 went to Harvard Harvard Business School, a guitar player. He 294 00:18:03.359 --> 00:18:06.400 was mentored by our dear friend Wayne Glins from Kansas. 295 00:18:06.440 --> 00:18:09.079 So we all play together. And the point is the 296 00:18:09.200 --> 00:18:14.119 music is it is an incredible platform for learning and 297 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:19.160 discipline and and and accomplishment. And so we get these 298 00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:23.359 young people who come through play the music, love the music, 299 00:18:23.880 --> 00:18:27.599 and learn how to entertain, learn how to relate to people, 300 00:18:28.000 --> 00:18:29.960 stand up in front of an audience and whether you're 301 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:33.119 a CEO, an m B, A whatever you do, and 302 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:37.279 a doctor. You learn how to relate to people and 303 00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:41.160 and all of that is the magic of the music 304 00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:44.799 and Ed Ed Ed Winnaker started it all, and then 305 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:48.839 Bill and Bow, you know, improved on it with a net. 306 00:18:49.359 --> 00:18:54.160 So I'm so grateful. I'm so grateful for this experience 307 00:18:54.200 --> 00:18:58.799 and for you for the friendship we've had, and it's 308 00:18:58.799 --> 00:19:00.000 so much more than the music. 309 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:02.359 Morgan, Doctor Dan, thank you for your call. 310 00:19:02.400 --> 00:19:04.920 And I hate to I'll show you up so quickly, 311 00:19:04.920 --> 00:19:07.119 but I've got a break to take, which will include 312 00:19:07.119 --> 00:19:09.880 a commercial to end news here on night. 313 00:19:09.839 --> 00:19:10.759 Thank you, doctor Dan. 314 00:19:11.119 --> 00:19:14.359 Bye, doctor Dan. Thanks time and temperature here on night 315 00:19:14.440 --> 00:19:18.759 Side ten thirty one, temperature seventy five degrees. 316 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:27.079 You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's 317 00:19:27.119 --> 00:19:28.079 news radio. 318 00:19:28.079 --> 00:19:33.759 Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten, thirty, eight, eight, eight, nine, two, nine, 319 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:35.920 ten thirty. If you want to call in and speak 320 00:19:35.960 --> 00:19:42.839 with music legends from our area, the Winnicre brothers, Bill 321 00:19:43.039 --> 00:19:46.799 and Boa here and I am going to go to 322 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:50.680 Westwood and speak to Tom and Tom you've been holding 323 00:19:50.720 --> 00:19:53.680 for almost twenty five minutes. Thank you for your patients. 324 00:19:54.759 --> 00:20:00.480 Oh You're very welcome. It's great to be on and Morgan. 325 00:20:00.799 --> 00:20:04.920 I said hello to you recently at the Midway trivia. 326 00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:07.400 Night there every Tuesday. 327 00:20:09.960 --> 00:20:13.079 So Bill and Bow usually refer to me as their 328 00:20:13.160 --> 00:20:18.279 manager or their marketing and public relations director. Okay, and 329 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:21.119 I love these guys and I've had the pleasure of 330 00:20:21.160 --> 00:20:24.960 knowing them for close to twenty years. And what i 331 00:20:25.000 --> 00:20:28.680 can tell you is I've never had a request of 332 00:20:28.720 --> 00:20:32.480 them that they've said no to. And I'm going to 333 00:20:32.480 --> 00:20:35.960 give you an example of a nice story. 334 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:38.000 I had the. 335 00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:44.039 Pleasure of being a dear friend to gentlemen doctor Joseph Murray. 336 00:20:45.319 --> 00:20:48.319 He was from Wellesley, Massachusetts, and doctor Murray was awarded 337 00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:52.680 the Nobel Prize in medicine. He did the first organ 338 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:56.599 transplant back in nineteen fifty four, and he won the 339 00:20:56.640 --> 00:21:03.200 Nobel Prize in nineteen ninety, about about a year before 340 00:21:03.240 --> 00:21:06.880 he passed away. I had called over at the house 341 00:21:06.880 --> 00:21:09.880 one day and asked if I could stop over and 342 00:21:10.200 --> 00:21:13.720 visit and drop a gift off. And when I got 343 00:21:13.759 --> 00:21:17.160 to the house, doctor Murray was excited to help me 344 00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:19.119 sit down at the kitchen table. He wanted to tell 345 00:21:19.160 --> 00:21:22.440 me a story about a memorial service that he had 346 00:21:22.440 --> 00:21:25.240 been to that day and how wonderful it was, and 347 00:21:25.359 --> 00:21:28.160 I kept saying, well, what was what was so wonderful 348 00:21:28.160 --> 00:21:30.240 about it? He said the music. To him, the music 349 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:36.400 was was terrific. And so the more he talked about it, 350 00:21:36.440 --> 00:21:39.400 the more I, you know, sort of understood that obviously 351 00:21:39.480 --> 00:21:41.759 music was important to him. So I said to him, 352 00:21:42.160 --> 00:21:43.920 doctor Murray, I said, this is what I'm going to 353 00:21:43.960 --> 00:21:46.680 do for you, I said, when you die, I said, 354 00:21:46.720 --> 00:21:48.720 I'm going to have my friends Bill and Bow Winnaker 355 00:21:49.240 --> 00:21:53.079 come and play at your funeral. And he said, you're kidding. 356 00:21:53.119 --> 00:21:55.759 He said, you'd really do that, and I said absolutely. 357 00:21:56.519 --> 00:21:58.640 He paused for about a half a minute and he said, well, 358 00:21:58.680 --> 00:22:01.160 wait a minute. Is there any way that I can 359 00:22:01.160 --> 00:22:07.599 hear them before I die? So I said yes, I said, 360 00:22:07.640 --> 00:22:09.359 we're going to We're going to set it up. So, 361 00:22:10.960 --> 00:22:15.920 you know, the following year, he turned ninety and the 362 00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:19.759 family had a get together with his six children and 363 00:22:20.000 --> 00:22:22.720 several of his grandchildren and some family friends and that 364 00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:25.359 sort of thing. So I called Bill and Bow and 365 00:22:25.400 --> 00:22:29.960 I said I need a favor. And Bo's answer anytime 366 00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:33.400 I call and say I need something is is always yes. 367 00:22:35.119 --> 00:22:37.240 So I said, I need you to show up at 368 00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:40.799 the Murray house three o'clock on Sunday afternoon with the 369 00:22:40.839 --> 00:22:43.799 band and play for a couple of hours and you know, 370 00:22:43.960 --> 00:22:46.599 entertain them and that sort of thing. So they did. 371 00:22:47.799 --> 00:22:52.079 The family had just a wonderful, wonderful time. They played, 372 00:22:52.680 --> 00:22:56.240 they remembered their wedding songs from nineteen forty five, danced, 373 00:22:57.720 --> 00:23:01.839 they just had a great time. And before doctor Murray 374 00:23:01.920 --> 00:23:05.640 died he would often say to me, he said, you know, Tom, 375 00:23:05.640 --> 00:23:09.480 I've had a very curious and fulfilling life. Met a 376 00:23:09.480 --> 00:23:12.799 lot of remarkable people, you know, had dinner with the 377 00:23:12.920 --> 00:23:16.920 King of Sweden, and a lot of you know, medical 378 00:23:16.960 --> 00:23:18.960 dignitaries and that sort of thing that he said. I 379 00:23:18.960 --> 00:23:22.839 can tell you that having the Winnakers come and play 380 00:23:23.480 --> 00:23:26.839 from my family and for my ninetieth birthday was truly 381 00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:31.359 one of the highlights of my life. And it's a 382 00:23:31.400 --> 00:23:34.519 tribute to these guys. And you know, doctor Dan just 383 00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:38.359 used the term magic of the music. But I would say, 384 00:23:38.960 --> 00:23:42.200 you know, doctor Murray certainly extended life and happiness to 385 00:23:42.920 --> 00:23:45.400 many many people. But Bill and Bow in a sense, 386 00:23:47.160 --> 00:23:51.920 they've done the same. And I would say my term 387 00:23:51.960 --> 00:23:57.759 would be medicine of their of their music nicely. They're 388 00:23:58.079 --> 00:24:05.000 they're terrific people. I'm just so privileged to know them. 389 00:24:05.519 --> 00:24:05.640 Now. 390 00:24:05.680 --> 00:24:08.759 I want to butt in here for a second. Tom 391 00:24:08.799 --> 00:24:12.559 has changed our life in the last couple of months 392 00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:15.960 because he's the one that went to this beautiful new 393 00:24:16.000 --> 00:24:20.400 restaurant in Westwood called the Rolli and he said to 394 00:24:19.920 --> 00:24:22.279 the owner, he says, you've got to have Bill and 395 00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:25.400 Bow play here. So Bow and I went there and 396 00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:29.200 had dinner just to check it out. And it's a fabulous, 397 00:24:29.279 --> 00:24:34.200 fabulous restaurant, and so we set up an interview with 398 00:24:35.799 --> 00:24:41.559 an executive out there and she said, let's try having 399 00:24:41.640 --> 00:24:43.640 you guys. We got a room called the Supper Club, 400 00:24:44.319 --> 00:24:46.960 and let's let's try it one night. So we went 401 00:24:47.000 --> 00:24:49.960