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<v Speaker 2>Karen. Yes, we've got to chat with some absolutely amazing

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<v Speaker 2>teachers in the metaphysician spiritual space. Over the last year

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<v Speaker 2>and a half we start, we've even experienced some astounding

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<v Speaker 2>modalities and we've learned a lot. Yeah, yeah, guess what what,

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<v Speaker 2>we're only just getting started. On today's show. We have

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<v Speaker 2>an opportunity to welcome one of my absolute favorite people

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<v Speaker 2>in the world, who just so happens to be one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most amazing spiritual teachers in the world. So

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<v Speaker 2>it works out really well.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm excited because you have talked about her so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you finally get a chance to meet her finally.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm excited for that as well. However, we almost lost

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<v Speaker 2>her twice. Yeah, almost lost her twice. And she's here

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<v Speaker 2>today to share the story of her second near death

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<v Speaker 2>experience with us. Wow, and she's going to help us

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<v Speaker 2>understand that the power is truly within us.

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<v Speaker 3>Perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, she's so hard to pin down because she knows

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<v Speaker 2>so much about so much, But I can promise you

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<v Speaker 2>that over the next forty minutes or so, you are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be amazed.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking forward to it.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Will and I'm Garen, and unlike boulderin Scully.

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<v Speaker 3>Both want to believe.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've embarked in a journey of discovery.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Scripting Politicians class.

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to classic skeptic positions. Welcome to our

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<v Speaker 1>version of a walk down memory Lane as we present

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<v Speaker 1>classics from the Skeptic Metaphysician Library, warts and all. So, Karen, when,

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<v Speaker 1>oh when are you going to go get reiki certified?

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<v Speaker 3>I need to do that right away, don't I you do.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been talking about that for a long time and

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<v Speaker 1>you just haven't done it.

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<v Speaker 4>And not to mention that my back has been out

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<v Speaker 4>for like three years and my reiki certified husband won't

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<v Speaker 4>reiki my back and fix it, so it looks like

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna have to do it on myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Well what's the term?

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<v Speaker 1>What's that saying that people say God helps those who

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<v Speaker 1>help themselves?

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<v Speaker 4>Or is it the shoemaker's kids have holes in their shoes.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm not your kid, but kind of the same thing.

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<v Speaker 5>I would thank you, But no, regardless of the pain

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<v Speaker 5>that you're in it with your back and stuff, there's

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<v Speaker 5>so many more benefits to raki than just pain relief.

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<v Speaker 5>And in fact, when I give myself raiki, I don't feel.

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<v Speaker 3>Give yourself reiki, but you don't give.

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<v Speaker 1>You No, No, it doesn't work for me, pain and wife,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't work for me, That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>The thing is, you're doing it to yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, I gave I've given up because I've learned that.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's just give up this fight and listen to the interview.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the skeptic. But physicians I'm will and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't care. And if you're a regular listener, you already

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<v Speaker 2>know le or Leelle. You've heard her first interview from

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<v Speaker 2>way back when we first got started, then you heard

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<v Speaker 2>her again where she's so graciously gifted be with a

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<v Speaker 2>past life aggression session. He's back again today to share

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<v Speaker 2>some more eye opening wisdom with us from her latest book,

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<v Speaker 2>which was just released, The Powers in You. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 2>the show the or on le out.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, thank you so much. It's such a pleasure to

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<v Speaker 6>be on to meet Karen, and thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always always a thrill to have on the shows

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<v Speaker 2>in neuro So I can't thank you enough for taking

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<v Speaker 2>the time to come talk to us. And that now great.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I owe Karen a past life progression woos.

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<v Speaker 6>I gave you one, right, so I will give her

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<v Speaker 6>one if she wants. I would love.

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<v Speaker 3>That so much. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's going to be interesting now too, because we've

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<v Speaker 2>explained it. We've learned so much since the time gave

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<v Speaker 2>me my regression. I'm really curious to see what kind

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<v Speaker 2>of things Karen comes out with, so we dubbering to

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<v Speaker 2>do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I'll share them, maybe not.

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<v Speaker 2>I think our audience supposed to hear. We know that

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<v Speaker 2>you're here to promote your book, but recently something happened

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<v Speaker 2>to you. You had your second near death experience.

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<v Speaker 6>Right right, Well, the first one I told you about.

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<v Speaker 6>I was young and I had a boating accident. I

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<v Speaker 6>was underwater, left my body for over twenty minutes, and

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<v Speaker 6>I just learned downloaded the entire multiverse information without knowing

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<v Speaker 6>what it was. And then that changed the course of

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<v Speaker 6>my life. And so I talked to a lot of experts,

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<v Speaker 6>and you know, people didn't believe that I'd been out

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<v Speaker 6>of the body, underwater for twenty minutes. And this one expert,

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<v Speaker 6>Lynn K Russell, she said that, you know, people had

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<v Speaker 6>been out and clinically certified that they had been dead

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<v Speaker 6>for forty eight hours in the Morde and came back

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<v Speaker 6>to life. So she said, twenty minutes is nothing, Leora.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, nothing to you, Maybe, yeah, right.

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<v Speaker 7>Because I guess it's pretty painful coming back in after

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<v Speaker 7>you've been out for so long. But I had been

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<v Speaker 7>serious situation that left me death and devastated, and I

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<v Speaker 7>was having a really difficult time getting through it and

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<v Speaker 7>everything that I teach I was doing, of course, but

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<v Speaker 7>I kept going in and out of depression, and it

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<v Speaker 7>seemed like I couldn't get through it no matter what

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<v Speaker 7>friends we went to Italy and we got back from Italy,

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<v Speaker 7>and you know the long trip, like it's like twenty

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<v Speaker 7>four hours of flying everything. So four days after I

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<v Speaker 7>get back, probably still jetl like and everything.

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<v Speaker 6>I like to hike. And I said to my daughter,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, let's go hiking, because that's what we do

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<v Speaker 6>on Saturdays. And she's like, all right. So we go

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<v Speaker 6>to Griffith Park and there's the old zoo that they

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<v Speaker 6>have there. It's really beautiful, and it was a hot day,

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<v Speaker 6>like ninety one, and it's near Pasadena, so if you

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<v Speaker 6>know Pasadena weather, it's just baking, baking hot. And I

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<v Speaker 6>don't like hot older you get you don't like hot

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<v Speaker 6>weather for some reason. But anyhow, it kept getting hotter

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<v Speaker 6>really up, said and I couldn't get through it. And

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<v Speaker 6>so I'm going up the hill and stopping and breathing

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<v Speaker 6>and drinking water and going up further, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 6>you know what, we get up so far, and I said,

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<v Speaker 6>I have to sit down, Nick, and she's like okay.

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<v Speaker 6>So I sit down and I'm using my Apple watch

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<v Speaker 6>my blood pressure, spine and everything, and I'm like okay.

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<v Speaker 6>So I was feeling better, and I said, okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>going to get up, and so I go help me out,

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<v Speaker 6>and I go I'm going down, and boom. The next minute,

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<v Speaker 6>I knew I'm out of my body and I'm at peace,

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<v Speaker 6>and I'm so happy, and I knew I had just died,

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<v Speaker 6>and I didn't care. I didn't care that I left

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<v Speaker 6>behind my daughter. I didn't care that anything. I was

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<v Speaker 6>so relieved to get out of this lifetime that I

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<v Speaker 6>was happy. And far off in the distance, I could

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<v Speaker 6>hear screaming like ahm, like really loud screaming, and a

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<v Speaker 6>voice told me they said, your daughter cannot handle it

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<v Speaker 6>now if you die, and I'm like okay. So all

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<v Speaker 6>of a sudden, I went wash and I went right

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<v Speaker 6>back into my body and I come back in I'm like,

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<v Speaker 6>what is there a bug on me? And she's like, mom,

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<v Speaker 6>you were seizing. So I was having a literal seizure

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<v Speaker 6>and my eyes were bugged out, my tongue was out,

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<v Speaker 6>her what happened. And she's all angry because you know,

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<v Speaker 6>you're not going hiking ever again, and yeah, and I'm

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<v Speaker 6>like when she just go down the hill. And so

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<v Speaker 6>we get down the hill and I had a headache

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<v Speaker 6>and I knew it was probably heat stroke, right because

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<v Speaker 6>seizure from heatstroke, and I'm assuming that that's what it was.

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<v Speaker 6>And I just that night I had a headache, and

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<v Speaker 6>so I took you know, like a Imatrex or Motrin

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<v Speaker 6>I get up in the morning, and my life shifted.

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<v Speaker 6>All of the stress that I had been under was irrelevant.

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<v Speaker 6>All of a sudden, I was like, I know what

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<v Speaker 6>thank you. Then I just started to like live my

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<v Speaker 6>And I think that I'm at a point spiritually or

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<v Speaker 6>whatever you want to say, where my guides. It's almost

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<v Speaker 6>like I have who's the wizard in Harry Potter? The

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<v Speaker 6>number A one? Yeah, I've got him up. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>it's actually me. That's our divine self. It's always talking

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<v Speaker 6>to you. And now it's like, look at if you

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<v Speaker 6>don't get out of this crap of three months of depression,

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<v Speaker 6>make you realize what you're doing in your life. And

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<v Speaker 6>that's actually what happened. And since then I have been

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<v Speaker 6>in this different space, a space of living what my

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<v Speaker 6>book is about. Right. And to tell you how funny,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm so connected now to my divine self, which we

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<v Speaker 6>all are. We're all like driven by our divine self.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a matter of how aware we are of that

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<v Speaker 6>divine energy. And it's all of us, you know, taking

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<v Speaker 6>us down our path. I was at the races and

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<v Speaker 6>the horse races in San Diego, so high school friends

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<v Speaker 6>kept losing. I'm down like one hundred and fifty dollars, like,

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<v Speaker 6>oh geez. I kept picking these you know who knew

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<v Speaker 6>what I was picking, And so I saw my boy.

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<v Speaker 6>My eyes kept darting towards this one called Zimbabwe, and

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like, no, I don't want that, Zimbabwe. No, No,

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<v Speaker 6>So I go up to the window and Zimbabwe was

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<v Speaker 6>like three. So I picked four and five and I said,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't want that. And I get up to the

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<v Speaker 6>window and I get my ticket Zimbabwe, and I do

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<v Speaker 6>across the board, like five bucks across the board, right,

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<v Speaker 6>so I get to first, second, and third, and so

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<v Speaker 6>then I got number four too, Zimbabwe one. So I'm like,

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<v Speaker 6>And we're all here to be on our divine path. People,

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<v Speaker 6>our higher selves, you know, and our guides and all

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<v Speaker 6>that this is what I want. This is you know,

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<v Speaker 6>be very specific.

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<v Speaker 3>Careful what you ask where you just might get it

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<v Speaker 3>exactly exactly right.

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<v Speaker 6>So yeah, so it's you know, I talked to Lynn

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<v Speaker 6>that's no big deal. People have them all the time,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, like once you have one, you're prone to

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<v Speaker 6>have it over and over again. And I'm like, wow,

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<v Speaker 6>have you bring her on the show. But she's had eight,

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<v Speaker 2>Were you're saying is that that the experiences is like

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<v Speaker 6>Right who knew? Yeah? Who knew? But I know that

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<v Speaker 6>it changes you. It gives you a perspective, and they

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<v Speaker 6>come at a time when you're at a crossroads and

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<v Speaker 6>then you realize you're like, oh, and it's kind of

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<v Speaker 6>your higher self than multiverse saying look, this is the

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I've got so so, so many go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>We went through a lot of stuff. Before I get

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<v Speaker 2>jumping into that, I gotta ask Karen because as Leora

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<v Speaker 3>What happened then when she said that her daughter wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>ready for it for whatever reason, I just felt like whoa,

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<v Speaker 3>imagine what she felt like she's losing her mom. And

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<v Speaker 3>then as a mother, thinking your daughter's having hard time

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<v Speaker 6>Go and you're given those options all the time, Like

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<v Speaker 6>the first one they told me, all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, all of these things in the multiverse and

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<v Speaker 6>It's you either have to go or go into the light.

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<v Speaker 6>And I said, well what do I do? And they said,

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<v Speaker 2>So I suppose that what you're doing now is we

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<v Speaker 2>never know where we're going to go. So I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>you're probably trying to get her in a better space

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<v Speaker 2>so that it's gone for me, something happens, she's more faired. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned something else while you're talking. You said that

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<v Speaker 2>someone out there that can kick us in the head

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<v Speaker 2>and make us get to our real right? Who would

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<v Speaker 2>want to do this, like, who want to come here

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<v Speaker 2>specifically to experience these hardships just so we can say that's.

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<v Speaker 3>It in there, not that well in there?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I guess for you know, we are all part

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<v Speaker 6>of the divine When we're out of the physical reality.

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<v Speaker 6>We are all God, the whole God for us, that's

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<v Speaker 6>who we are, and we're just at different levels of understanding.

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<v Speaker 6>But from what I understand, when we're in the spirit

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<v Speaker 6>at you know, a stationary planet that we come before

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<v Speaker 6>it becomes where we want to come back in and

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<v Speaker 6>it's almost like us watching a movie. So we're it's

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<v Speaker 6>kind of like entertaining for us as spirits, because in

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<v Speaker 6>spirits we can handle anything. But when we get into

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<v Speaker 2>So basically you're saying that spirits are masochists.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, it feels that way, it doesn't sometimes, right, Daredevil's.

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<v Speaker 2>So, you recently released your book The Powers In You,

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<v Speaker 2>and I assume that in your near death experience there

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<v Speaker 2>it is a beautiful cover. Did your near death experience

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<v Speaker 2>and motivate you writing this book or are the messages

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<v Speaker 2>in the book specifically from that.

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<v Speaker 6>No, you know, well there's there's part of it. But

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<v Speaker 6>this book is about it's a collection of all of

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<v Speaker 6>And you know I had taught before. The life that

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<v Speaker 6>I had was super, super difficult. And you know, two

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<v Speaker 6>years ago I thought, you know, my son died and

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<v Speaker 6>it'll be it won't be so bad anymore. And then

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<v Speaker 6>this other thing happened and just devist And it's a

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<v Speaker 6>collection of how to understand who we are and why

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<v Speaker 6>we're here. And you know, people go to healers, which

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<v Speaker 6>is great. I'm a healer. People go all over to

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<v Speaker 6>try to get this fix, you know, make me feel

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<v Speaker 6>better and you release. So what we're here to do

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<v Speaker 6>is to evolve to the point where we wake up

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<v Speaker 6>this physical body. And when that happens, then we can

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<v Speaker 6>start to manipulate. And there we go again. We can

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<v Speaker 6>start to manipulate our life and create the life that

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<v Speaker 6>we want. Because it's all based on energy, the whole

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<v Speaker 6>concept of what we are. We're in the divine, we

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<v Speaker 6>come down, we get ready for a physical existence, and

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<v Speaker 6>other planets. But we come down here and we and

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<v Speaker 6>I told you this before. We start out somewhere like

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<v Speaker 6>we are, why we're here, and then change our life

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<v Speaker 6>and learn how to I don't want to say manipulate,

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<v Speaker 6>that's not a correct term, but we learn how to

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<v Speaker 6>create the life that we desire so that we can

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<v Speaker 6>have a happy life. You know. Buddhist says that everything

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<v Speaker 6>that happens is has nothing attached to it. Every action

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<v Speaker 6>is benign. Everything that we attach to it is where

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<v Speaker 6>the pain and suffering comes in. When someone dies, it's

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<v Speaker 6>a benign action and they're all they're happy, just like

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<v Speaker 6>I was out of the body. I'm like, I'm ready

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<v Speaker 6>to go, and for us it's devastating. Those are emotions

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<v Speaker 6>that we attach to everything. So in my book, what

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<v Speaker 6>I do is I give you all of the information

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<v Speaker 6>from the quantum mechanics, how the brain works. I talk

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<v Speaker 6>about why we are the way we are. Did it

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<v Speaker 6>come from our childhood? Did it come from another life?

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<v Speaker 6>We're curying this energy. Everything is energy. So I teach

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<v Speaker 6>you how I plant these little seeds in your head

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<v Speaker 6>and in your subconscious so that you are constantly thinking

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<v Speaker 6>about what this book is about and how I can

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<v Speaker 6>change my life. And people used to ask me what

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<v Speaker 6>is self love? And I knew what it was, but

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't know how to explain it. But since I

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<v Speaker 6>optimization or body, mind, spirit, thoughts, words and actions. So

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<v Speaker 6>being in the optimization of your body meaning being healthy,

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<v Speaker 6>working out, doing everything you can to optimize your body's performance.

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<v Speaker 6>Next is the mind where you're reading uplifting you know, material,

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<v Speaker 6>watching podcasts like your podcast, then meditating spiritually, and then thoughts,

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<v Speaker 6>words and actions. You're utilizing what you know to stay

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<v Speaker 6>in the vibration of love your action instead of flipping

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<v Speaker 6>somebody off when they cut you off. You know, you're like, okay, dude,

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<v Speaker 6>go ahead. You're you know in as you're in a

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<v Speaker 6>different frame. You know, words words have such radical vibration,

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<v Speaker 6>they can hurt you like a knight. And then thoughts,

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<v Speaker 6>and we have eighty two thousand thoughts or more a

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<v Speaker 6>day controlling those and making sure that every single thought

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<v Speaker 6>is in the vibration of love. So all of that

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<v Speaker 6>is the vibration of love. Optimizing every area of your

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<v Speaker 6>life goes six. So that's an equation that I came

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<v Speaker 6>up with, optimization of body, mind, spirit, thoughts, words, and

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<v Speaker 1>And now back to the skeptic metaphysicians.

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<v Speaker 4>So you talked about this first near death experience. I

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<v Speaker 4>guess death experience because you're under for twenty minutes. And

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<v Speaker 4>we've heard that from a lot of people that the

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<v Speaker 4>interview that had this big event in their life, something

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<v Speaker 4>has happening and they have this awakening. Do you think

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<v Speaker 4>an event sort of thing is necessary in order to

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<v Speaker 3>Or are some people is it easier for some people?

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<v Speaker 3>What are your thoughts on that.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, it seems to me that that would be

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<v Speaker 6>and it gives us that opportunity to jump out rather

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<v Speaker 6>could happen that way too. I don't know, but it

419
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<v Speaker 6>just seems like an event like that gives us the

420
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<v Speaker 6>opportunity to get out of the body easier.

421
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<v Speaker 4>Because you have people that as a child were able

422
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<v Speaker 4>to kind of see this or understand this.

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<v Speaker 6>More so maybe yeah, you know, kids like I'm sure

424
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<v Speaker 6>that when you are walking down the street and you

425
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<v Speaker 6>see this little kid and it looks at you, and

426
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<v Speaker 6>just like penetrates like their kids are powerful, especially nowadays.

427
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<v Speaker 6>They're so jacked up on these new type of tweaks

428
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<v Speaker 6>that the aliens have done to us. So they're they're awake,

429
00:23:37.720 --> 00:23:41.480
<v Speaker 6>like people are being born awake, and they're powerful, and yeah,

430
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<v Speaker 6>they're still connected. I have a friend. Her grandson is

431
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<v Speaker 6>four years old, and now he's starting to forget, but

432
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<v Speaker 6>he's like Grandma, I used to be married to Matilda,

433
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<v Speaker 6>And she's like, who's Matilda? He goes in my other

434
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<v Speaker 6>life I was married to her, so he knew his

435
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<v Speaker 6>whole other life and then now it's slipping away as

436
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<v Speaker 6>he gets older. But yeah, they're in tune. I don't

437
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<v Speaker 6>know if I answered your question.

438
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<v Speaker 2>But you said something like let go just drop the

439
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<v Speaker 2>letters of nothing, but you said something about aliens. Are

440
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<v Speaker 2>they currently tweaking us as we speak?

441
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<v Speaker 6>Yes? Absolutely?

442
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<v Speaker 2>Is that what the abduction experience is? Or is it

443
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<v Speaker 2>before we are born? How? What?

444
00:24:24.599 --> 00:24:25.000
<v Speaker 3>Huh?

445
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<v Speaker 2>What?

446
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<v Speaker 6>And I don't think it's an abduction. I think rather

447
00:24:28.240 --> 00:24:32.119
<v Speaker 6>it's an agreement that you go along with them. So

448
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<v Speaker 6>and if you look and this is so backed up

449
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<v Speaker 6>by science anthropology, uh when and you know it's funny.

450
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<v Speaker 6>I have known this because they showed me, But Dolores

451
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<v Speaker 6>Cannon talks about it too, and she when she would

452
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<v Speaker 6>do pastlight progressions on people, they would the higher vibrational

453
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<v Speaker 6>beings will come in and say, this is what we're doing.

454
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<v Speaker 6>But what I know and what she confirms is that

455
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<v Speaker 6>you know, planets were created and they wanted a human

456
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<v Speaker 6>or they wanted to form a being that could incarnate,

457
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<v Speaker 6>but it could survive and grow and become more powerful

458
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<v Speaker 6>and all knowing. And if you look at is it

459
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<v Speaker 6>anthropology where they dig up? What's that when they get

460
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<v Speaker 6>things archaeology, Well they're digging up small little bodies, big

461
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<v Speaker 6>gigantic bodies. These were all tests. And if you go

462
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<v Speaker 6>through Egyptian history too, you see humans that had an

463
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<v Speaker 6>animal brain and all of like if you watch what

464
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<v Speaker 6>is it called alien? What's the show? It's Agent Aliens

465
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<v Speaker 6>and they tell you everything, and I mean, this is

466
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<v Speaker 6>all confirming everything that I know. But they want wanted

467
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<v Speaker 6>to find a being that could do the incarnational journey

468
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<v Speaker 6>and the reason behind it that I know and that

469
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<v Speaker 6>I was shown by people that I would channel is

470
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<v Speaker 6>the incarnational being. Every time they raise their vibration, there's

471
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<v Speaker 6>a byproduct of that raising your vibration. And do you

472
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<v Speaker 6>know what that is?

473
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<v Speaker 2>I want to say, Sam, what did you say? Spam?

474
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<v Speaker 2>What is a spam?

475
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<v Speaker 6>Spam?

476
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? The by product? I'm just thinking, what's.

477
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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, you know I thought we were going

478
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<v Speaker 4>to think what I watch?

479
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<v Speaker 6>I watch his post on Facebook all the time? Great?

480
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<v Speaker 3>Why I live his posts?

481
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<v Speaker 4>Not that.

482
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<v Speaker 2>I keep things interesting?

483
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<v Speaker 3>You got at least?

484
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<v Speaker 2>So no, what what?

485
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<v Speaker 6>What is?

486
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<v Speaker 2>What is the by product?

487
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<v Speaker 6>The by product is love? So every time you raise

488
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<v Speaker 6>your vibration, every time you make a choice to be

489
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<v Speaker 6>a better person, there is an energy factor that is

490
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<v Speaker 6>excreted and that is loved, and the purpose of the

491
00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:08.079
<v Speaker 6>multiverse is to stay in the balance of love. So

492
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<v Speaker 6>that's why we were created. We were created and all

493
00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:16.480
<v Speaker 6>of the other planets like us so that we could

494
00:27:16.680 --> 00:27:21.160
<v Speaker 6>we're actually miners, miners of love, and that's you know,

495
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<v Speaker 6>we're all divine beings. And the Earth and the multiverse

496
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<v Speaker 6>has been around so many trillions and trill I don't

497
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<v Speaker 6>even know what guns beyond trillions. But we're just these little,

498
00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:35.680
<v Speaker 6>you know, young people, young kids were like kindergarten, and

499
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<v Speaker 6>we're learning how to do it. But that's what they want.

500
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<v Speaker 6>They want planets where the incarnational beings will grow and

501
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<v Speaker 6>evolved and eventually become loving entities true to their divine self.

502
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<v Speaker 4>I love that she's totally speaking my language, all about

503
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<v Speaker 4>the love.

504
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<v Speaker 2>Let's get back to your book, because I love the

505
00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:57.160
<v Speaker 2>all going off the rails. But we need to go

506
00:27:57.319 --> 00:27:59.400
<v Speaker 2>back because I've got an entire list of question I've

507
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<v Speaker 2>got to get to a tool. The book actually teaches

508
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<v Speaker 2>you about the science behind metaphysics, right and the working

509
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<v Speaker 2>of the multiverse, and we've touched on it a little bit. Opinion,

510
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<v Speaker 2>keep us a little bit more into that.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, in twenty twelve, scientists discover discovered the God particle,

512
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<v Speaker 6>the bosim Higgs particle. So in twenty twelve was actually

513
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<v Speaker 6>a huge spiritual awakening. That's kind of when I really

514
00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:36.240
<v Speaker 6>went down the rabbit hole. But that by scientists that

515
00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:38.519
<v Speaker 6>don't believe in God, and they don't believe in a

516
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<v Speaker 6>lot of things other than just science said so much.

517
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<v Speaker 6>And this God particle is in every human, every animal,

518
00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:50.680
<v Speaker 6>every plant, everything that is on the planet has the

519
00:28:50.720 --> 00:28:54.839
<v Speaker 6>God particle. So that's part of the quantum mechanics that

520
00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:59.960
<v Speaker 6>we understand that we are all one living breathing into

521
00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:04.200
<v Speaker 6>the earth. You know. Unfortunately, and I think fortunately now

522
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<v Speaker 6>we're starting to shift with this new generation of kids

523
00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:11.359
<v Speaker 6>who are crazy about saving our planet. And by the way,

524
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<v Speaker 6>did you hear what the guy that owns Pantagonia did

525
00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:17.759
<v Speaker 6>donated three billion so all of his profits per year,

526
00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:21.119
<v Speaker 6>they're like three billion dollars, donated it all to planet Earth.

527
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<v Speaker 6>So that the shift is happening. We are changing, We

528
00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:29.680
<v Speaker 6>are becoming this planet. So we are finding out who

529
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<v Speaker 6>we are. We are these divine beads and we and

530
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<v Speaker 6>I was told a long time ago by the people

531
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<v Speaker 6>that you know, I would channel that the paris the

532
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<v Speaker 6>Earth is trying to get rid of her parasites through

533
00:29:43.960 --> 00:29:47.000
<v Speaker 6>what's happening with global warning, and then the people would say, well,

534
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:49.720
<v Speaker 6>who are the parasites, And we are the parasites. We

535
00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:52.599
<v Speaker 6>are the ones that are you know, shifting the planet.

536
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<v Speaker 6>Look what we've done in one hundred and fifty years

537
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<v Speaker 6>from the Industrial Revolution we have in one hundred and

538
00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:02.039
<v Speaker 6>fifty years we have done to the planet Earth. I mean,

539
00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:06.039
<v Speaker 6>it's mind boggling. There's been around more millions and billions

540
00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:08.519
<v Speaker 6>of years. But so those are the things that I

541
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<v Speaker 6>teach because I want them to understand. I want them

542
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<v Speaker 6>to understand religion and where you are and your religious beliefs,

543
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:18.839
<v Speaker 6>and religion as a man made vehicle. So you know,

544
00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:22.759
<v Speaker 6>the medicis they wanted you know, money, they wanted to

545
00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:26.200
<v Speaker 6>put fear into people. So those are some of the

546
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<v Speaker 6>things in the book that I talk about. I talk

547
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<v Speaker 6>about meditation, I talk about the energy zones of the

548
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<v Speaker 6>body and how we are pure energy. And that's why

549
00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:40.400
<v Speaker 6>when I talk about words being so hurtful, because everything

550
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:45.000
<v Speaker 6>carries energy, and any kind of negative energy that comes

551
00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:48.480
<v Speaker 6>at you is painful, you know, physical, but words are

552
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<v Speaker 6>really severe. So I talk about the energy and words

553
00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:55.440
<v Speaker 6>energy and the body. I talk about how important meditation is.

554
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<v Speaker 6>You know, having a sum with severe audism and bipolar

555
00:31:01.160 --> 00:31:05.440
<v Speaker 6>for twenty five years, it was nobody can even under.

556
00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:07.759
<v Speaker 6>People say, oh, I work, you know, sixty eighty hours,

557
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:09.759
<v Speaker 6>and I'm like, you know what, I don't cure And

558
00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:12.279
<v Speaker 6>I worked those hours when I was in corporate, but

559
00:31:13.160 --> 00:31:16.960
<v Speaker 6>taking care of a child twenty four to seven NonStop.

560
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<v Speaker 6>You know, That's why I started writing because I could

561
00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:21.720
<v Speaker 6>do it and I could leave and go be with him.

562
00:31:21.720 --> 00:31:26.000
<v Speaker 6>But if I didn't meditate, if I didn't connect to

563
00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:29.559
<v Speaker 6>that source to pull that energy down to help me,

564
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:33.200
<v Speaker 6>I never would have made it. And Brandon even knew.

565
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:35.319
<v Speaker 6>In the beginning, he wouldn't let me and he'd pound

566
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<v Speaker 6>at the door and I would just ignore him. But

567
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:39.799
<v Speaker 6>later on, when I'd have a stressful day, he'd take

568
00:31:39.880 --> 00:31:42.039
<v Speaker 6>me by the hand and take me to my room

569
00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:44.799
<v Speaker 6>and say, mom, close your eyes because he knew what

570
00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:49.680
<v Speaker 6>it did. So the superpowers that we have meditation is

571
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<v Speaker 6>the moment. And I'm not talking gardening. I'm not talking

572
00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:55.519
<v Speaker 6>about walking. Walking meditations are good, but we're talking about

573
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<v Speaker 6>the meditation where your body is shut down, your mind

574
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:02.440
<v Speaker 6>is shut down, and you are you are connecting to

575
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<v Speaker 6>who you really are in the vine.

576
00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:08.079
<v Speaker 2>Become yourself and true SELFI yeah.

577
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<v Speaker 6>And just you know, the things that we feed ourselves,

578
00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:13.200
<v Speaker 6>our bodies, and so you know, I had stage three

579
00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:16.599
<v Speaker 6>breast cancer. Then I had the fake boobs put on

580
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:19.039
<v Speaker 6>and I had to have them taken off, and I

581
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<v Speaker 6>had breast implant illness on autoimmune and I've had to

582
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<v Speaker 6>you know, be a female without having breast, which has

583
00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:29.519
<v Speaker 6>been super difficult. But it was one of these challenges

584
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<v Speaker 6>that I took on and of course I put that

585
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<v Speaker 6>in so I learned too. And it's so interesting because

586
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<v Speaker 6>I always took care of myself, but I ate a

587
00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:41.839
<v Speaker 6>lot of meat and everything. But I learned how to

588
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<v Speaker 6>optimize my body. So I take supplements, I juice, I

589
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:49.880
<v Speaker 6>work out to the extent. Now it's different because I

590
00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:52.359
<v Speaker 6>go walking three times a week and then I hike

591
00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:55.880
<v Speaker 6>on the weekends. So everything's kind of shifted with my age.

592
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<v Speaker 6>But I take care of my body. I optimize my

593
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:02.599
<v Speaker 6>body and my mind. What I bring in listening to

594
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:05.839
<v Speaker 6>your podcast, listening to the people that you know are

595
00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:09.319
<v Speaker 6>in the know, listening to that information is amazing. I

596
00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:12.559
<v Speaker 6>try to. That's what's in my book is that you

597
00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:16.160
<v Speaker 6>have control of every single thing in your life, and

598
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:19.359
<v Speaker 6>then you can start controlling when you have your thoughts

599
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<v Speaker 6>to where they're staying in the vibration of love and

600
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:25.920
<v Speaker 6>they're staying in abundance, you can bring everything to you.

601
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<v Speaker 6>And that's the way it works, and that's in the book,

602
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:29.160
<v Speaker 6>and I teach you.

603
00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:32.880
<v Speaker 2>How to do it, all right, can't wait to read

604
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:33.319
<v Speaker 2>that book.

605
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<v Speaker 6>I'm going to send you, guys, you have to give

606
00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:36.359
<v Speaker 6>me your address. I'll send you a.

607
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:36.680
<v Speaker 3>Couple of.

608
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<v Speaker 2>Definitely, because it is. It's a work book, right, so

609
00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:43.880
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna have to kind of write, and you know what.

610
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<v Speaker 6>It's so easy. The thing about it is because people

611
00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:50.759
<v Speaker 6>nowadays have ADHD, right, they can't they can't focus for

612
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<v Speaker 6>more than two minutes. So this is one chapter. This

613
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<v Speaker 6>is one chapter. Then we go on to another chapter

614
00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:03.799
<v Speaker 6>that has three paragraphs, so I mean every there's not

615
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<v Speaker 6>a chapter in there that has more than four or

616
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<v Speaker 6>five paragraphs. And then at the end it has questions,

617
00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:11.800
<v Speaker 6>and then at the end it has the journal. So

618
00:34:11.840 --> 00:34:14.719
<v Speaker 6>you start out in the morning and at night you

619
00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:17.519
<v Speaker 6>write all the things you want to do. Bodyline spirit, thoughts, words,

620
00:34:17.559 --> 00:34:19.719
<v Speaker 6>and actions. And then in the morning you get up

621
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<v Speaker 6>and you do your alignment, your three minute alignment, you know,

622
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:27.880
<v Speaker 6>connecting to the divine, connecting to the earth, protecting, and

623
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<v Speaker 6>then think about what you're grateful for, and then think

624
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:34.440
<v Speaker 6>about who you love and boom, you're ready to start

625
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<v Speaker 6>your day.

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<v Speaker 2>That's amazing. I mean that the book from what I read,

627
00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:41.639
<v Speaker 2>really kind of gives you a step by step right

628
00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:44.039
<v Speaker 2>you can go at your whole pace. It really gives

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<v Speaker 2>you step by step on how to find the power insiding.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's fantastic. This is all great. We're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful things. Thought with the world nowadays, it's really it's

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<v Speaker 2>really divided. So some of us are actively looking to

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<v Speaker 2>move into the five D S das others are kind

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<v Speaker 2>of digging in their heels and saying not you know,

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<v Speaker 2>over my dead body and kind of thing. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>causing some serious ructures in our culture, in our society.

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<v Speaker 2>How can those of us who are trying to better

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<v Speaker 2>ourself and our human experience help to bring those along

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe arn't choosing really to see the truth. We

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<v Speaker 2>can't you're saying, you're saying shit in your head not

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<v Speaker 2>a chance.

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<v Speaker 6>That's everybody is at their level of understanding, and when

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<v Speaker 6>you come to that realization, you can never change anyone.

644
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<v Speaker 6>You can only change yourself, and people will drop off

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<v Speaker 6>out of your life people when they're at a level

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<v Speaker 6>of understanding. No matter what you say, how you format it,

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<v Speaker 6>they just don't get it. And so stop trying. I've

648
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<v Speaker 6>stopped trying to, you know, fix people because it doesn't work.

649
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<v Speaker 6>I fix people are on a broad level. If they

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<v Speaker 6>want to be fixed, they come to me and then

651
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<v Speaker 6>I give them information. But you cannot change anybody. And

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<v Speaker 6>that's one of the things we're remember how I said,

653
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<v Speaker 6>we start out as caveman and end up as Gandhi.

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<v Speaker 6>Everybody's at their level of understanding, so you cannot and

655
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<v Speaker 6>you can't be angry at them because that's part of

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<v Speaker 6>the whole collective. You have to accept them, not judge them,

657
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<v Speaker 6>and love them like you love yourself. And that's the

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<v Speaker 6>only way you can deal with it. You are going

659
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<v Speaker 6>to go into your you know, fifth element, happily and

660
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<v Speaker 6>understanding and being lovely, love loving and non judgmental with

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<v Speaker 6>these people because it's just a level of understanding.

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<v Speaker 4>So well, it seems like those people will never have

663
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<v Speaker 4>an awakening, And I mean, does everybody go through or

664
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<v Speaker 4>is that the your incarnation? You keep coming back until

665
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<v Speaker 4>you wake up. So that's exactly a choose to come back. Like, yeah,

666
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<v Speaker 4>that's exactly what it is, Karen.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, you know Hitler was one of those people,

668
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<v Speaker 6>and you know, I'm sure he's come back and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>regretted it and lived a really horrible life to delete

670
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<v Speaker 6>that karma. So we just keep evolving. We all of us,

671
00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:20.880
<v Speaker 6>all three of us right now, we have been murderers, rapists.

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<v Speaker 6>We had gone through a bunch of lifetimes that we're like,

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<v Speaker 6>I would never do that in this life you wouldn't,

674
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<v Speaker 6>but in other lives you had. And because now you awake,

675
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:33.360
<v Speaker 6>you awaken at one point and that's when you start

676
00:37:33.400 --> 00:37:36.039
<v Speaker 6>to shift. So we've all been that, We've all been

677
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:39.239
<v Speaker 6>the bad guy and now we're lucky enough to be

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<v Speaker 6>a good guy. So you mentioned earlier past life regression.

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<v Speaker 6>Should I be afraid, No, I want to find out.

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<v Speaker 3>Something that was horrible.

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<v Speaker 6>No, no, no, But you know what, and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I your energy is beautiful. You have this really loving

683
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<v Speaker 6>energy and I feel your acceptance and yeah it'll be

684
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<v Speaker 6>and it's just really easy. See, you are given what

685
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<v Speaker 6>correlates with this light and the people in your life.

686
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<v Speaker 6>Now you'll be given lives possibly with them. So it's

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<v Speaker 6>given what you need to understand for this particular lifetime. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>so don't be afraid, and will we'll do another one

689
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<v Speaker 6>if you want to for you too, so that because

690
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<v Speaker 6>now you're at a different level, so other things will

691
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<v Speaker 6>come up too, right Lee Or she.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually just started meditating with me in the mornings, which

693
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<v Speaker 2>has been wonderful, and she has made like these massive

694
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<v Speaker 2>leaps in just a few times she's done it. Something

695
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<v Speaker 2>remarkable happen today that we're going to have to record

696
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<v Speaker 2>a session about because it truly it was so inspiring

697
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<v Speaker 2>that we're doing to talk about it at some point.

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<v Speaker 2>But it really helped show her the power of meditation

699
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<v Speaker 2>to open herself up to the universal messaging. It was astounded.

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<v Speaker 2>So we need to get you really meditating hearings that you.

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<v Speaker 6>I see that in her, she's got that energy where

702
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<v Speaker 6>she's open. She just it's like a baby just going

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<v Speaker 6>whoa you know, like and and you're open and so

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<v Speaker 6>now is when the cool stuff starts to happen. When

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<v Speaker 6>you start you know, having all of the yeah, like

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<v Speaker 6>it's yeah, yeah, it's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll have to tell her yeah, and not jealous at all.

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<v Speaker 8>No, and don't be jealous, you know, because you're going

709
00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:29.880
<v Speaker 8>to go beyond and you'll have the more, you know,

710
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<v Speaker 8>like in the beginning, rapid fire of all these things

711
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<v Speaker 8>start happening for.

712
00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:40.599
<v Speaker 2>Two years and she's that's okay.

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<v Speaker 6>There, I know, I know a fast learner. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 6>that's that's you know, the level that she's at. She's

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<v Speaker 6>on this. You know, once you there are some that

716
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<v Speaker 6>and that's what happened to me. The minute that I

717
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<v Speaker 6>woke up, I was like, I want to know everything.

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00:39:56.760 --> 00:39:59.400
<v Speaker 6>Just give it all to me and and let me experience.

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<v Speaker 6>I wanted to touch on one thing that's important about

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<v Speaker 6>my book, and you know people nowadays, people, I guess

721
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<v Speaker 6>I've always wanted That's why the pharmaceutical and industry is

722
00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:17.199
<v Speaker 6>so big. But people want to quick fix. They're lazy,

723
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<v Speaker 6>they don't want to do the work. They just if

724
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<v Speaker 6>it comes to where well, you know, I don't know,

725
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<v Speaker 6>I know I shouldn't. You have to. You have to

726
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<v Speaker 6>want to get there, you have to want to do

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<v Speaker 6>the work. You can go to people and get healed,

728
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<v Speaker 6>and you can go here and get healed, but you're

729
00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:36.320
<v Speaker 6>going to keep coming back, and you're going to keep

730
00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:39.519
<v Speaker 6>coming back. You have to start to do the work yourself,

731
00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:43.920
<v Speaker 6>and you start out with davy steps, just little tiny things.

732
00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:47.960
<v Speaker 6>But then what this book does is plant the seeds,

733
00:40:48.360 --> 00:40:51.840
<v Speaker 6>so you keep awakening all the work that you've been doing.

734
00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:56.119
<v Speaker 6>Karen with Will is been planting seeds in your head.

735
00:40:56.239 --> 00:40:59.960
<v Speaker 6>And that's why you're having these huge you know, gigant

736
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:03.119
<v Speaker 6>make things happen, because these seeds have been planted, and

737
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<v Speaker 6>all you're like, I'm ready, right, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Think I have a forest in my backyard. I got

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<v Speaker 2>a little prop. I got nothing. That's not true.

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<v Speaker 9>That's not something to brag about. Will Sam Sam Sam.

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<v Speaker 3>Highlight her.

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<v Speaker 2>I see the jokes on the I see joh wow.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, this time is flown by you that I would

744
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<v Speaker 10>because you are just you are one of my absolute

745
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<v Speaker 10>favorite people.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so so thrilled. Let me tell me your chance

747
00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:53.719
<v Speaker 2>to talk. Thank you again so much for the gracious

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00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:55.079
<v Speaker 2>offer of the Past Life Regress.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>If someone wanted to order the book, I know that

751
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<v Speaker 2>it's on Amazon. And it's also something we didn't talk about.

752
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<v Speaker 2>It's actually been translated right to Polish and Spanish.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow, yeah, into Spanish and Polish. And I am going

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<v Speaker 6>to Poland. I'm having a conference, a weekend conference where

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<v Speaker 6>I go, I do everything out of the book, and

756
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<v Speaker 6>then after that week I'm i'd be doing the individuals.

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<v Speaker 6>But yeah, they're flying me in and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 6>do a whole thing, you know about the power. They're

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<v Speaker 6>really receptive over there. They have started their spiritual awakening

760
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:32.400
<v Speaker 6>and they're just hungry for stuff. So yeah, so and

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<v Speaker 6>the Polish people.

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<v Speaker 3>Are wonderful, well, so exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>We look forward to seeing the postcard. Yeah, I got it.

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<v Speaker 6>And if you guys want to come out to California,

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<v Speaker 6>you're welcome to stay at my house so you have

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<v Speaker 6>a place to stay.

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<v Speaker 2>Be careful what you would say, because that's okay, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 6>We are.

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<v Speaker 8>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Your book, The Power Then You is on Amazon. Will

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<v Speaker 2>add a direct link to that in our show. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you listen to this on the radio, just go

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<v Speaker 2>to Skepticmanposition dot com, go to Leora Leones episode, and

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<v Speaker 2>in there you'll find a direct link. You can just

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<v Speaker 2>all of our other information social websites at cent drops

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<v Speaker 2>or thank you so much, such a wonderful time spending

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<v Speaker 2>time with you. Yes, thank you, see you guys.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you You're amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, Mike wife, and a huge thank you to you.

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