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Speaker 2: Karen. Yes, we've got to chat with some absolutely amazing
Speaker 2: teachers in the metaphysician spiritual space. Over the last year
Speaker 2: and a half we start, we've even experienced some astounding
Speaker 2: modalities and we've learned a lot. Yeah, yeah, guess what what,
Speaker 2: we're only just getting started. On today's show. We have
Speaker 2: an opportunity to welcome one of my absolute favorite people
Speaker 2: in the world, who just so happens to be one
Speaker 2: of the most amazing spiritual teachers in the world. So
Speaker 2: it works out really well.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm excited because you have talked about her so much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you finally get a chance to meet her finally.
Speaker 2: I'm excited for that as well. However, we almost lost
Speaker 2: her twice. Yeah, almost lost her twice. And she's here
Speaker 2: today to share the story of her second near death
Speaker 2: experience with us. Wow, and she's going to help us
Speaker 2: understand that the power is truly within us.
Speaker 3: Perfect.
Speaker 2: Well, she's so hard to pin down because she knows
Speaker 2: so much about so much, But I can promise you
Speaker 2: that over the next forty minutes or so, you are
Speaker 2: going to be amazed.
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 1: My name is Will and I'm Garen, and unlike boulderin Scully.
Speaker 3: Both want to believe.
Speaker 1: So we've embarked in a journey of discovery.
Speaker 2: Welcome to Scripting Politicians class.
Speaker 1: You are listening to classic skeptic positions. Welcome to our
Speaker 1: version of a walk down memory Lane as we present
Speaker 1: classics from the Skeptic Metaphysician Library, warts and all. So, Karen, when,
Speaker 1: oh when are you going to go get reiki certified?
Speaker 3: I need to do that right away, don't I you do.
Speaker 1: We've been talking about that for a long time and
Speaker 1: you just haven't done it.
Speaker 4: And not to mention that my back has been out
Speaker 4: for like three years and my reiki certified husband won't
Speaker 4: reiki my back and fix it, so it looks like
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to do it on myself.
Speaker 2: Well what's the term?
Speaker 1: What's that saying that people say God helps those who
Speaker 1: help themselves?
Speaker 4: Or is it the shoemaker's kids have holes in their shoes.
Speaker 5: And I'm not your kid, but kind of the same thing.
Speaker 5: I would thank you, But no, regardless of the pain
Speaker 5: that you're in it with your back and stuff, there's
Speaker 5: so many more benefits to raki than just pain relief.
Speaker 5: And in fact, when I give myself raiki, I don't feel.
Speaker 3: Give yourself reiki, but you don't give.
Speaker 1: You No, No, it doesn't work for me, pain and wife,
Speaker 1: it doesn't work for me, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: The thing is, you're doing it to yourself.
Speaker 1: Well, no, I gave I've given up because I've learned that.
Speaker 3: Let's just give up this fight and listen to the interview.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the skeptic. But physicians I'm will and I
Speaker 2: don't care. And if you're a regular listener, you already
Speaker 2: know le or Leelle. You've heard her first interview from
Speaker 2: way back when we first got started, then you heard
Speaker 2: her again where she's so graciously gifted be with a
Speaker 2: past life aggression session. He's back again today to share
Speaker 2: some more eye opening wisdom with us from her latest book,
Speaker 2: which was just released, The Powers in You. Welcome to
Speaker 2: the show the or on le out.
Speaker 6: Oh, thank you so much. It's such a pleasure to
Speaker 6: be on to meet Karen, and thank you.
Speaker 2: It's always always a thrill to have on the shows
Speaker 2: in neuro So I can't thank you enough for taking
Speaker 2: the time to come talk to us. And that now great.
Speaker 6: You know, I owe Karen a past life progression woos.
Speaker 6: I gave you one, right, so I will give her
Speaker 6: one if she wants. I would love.
Speaker 3: That so much. Thank you.
Speaker 2: Well, it's going to be interesting now too, because we've
Speaker 2: explained it. We've learned so much since the time gave
Speaker 2: me my regression. I'm really curious to see what kind
Speaker 2: of things Karen comes out with, so we dubbering to
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'll share them, maybe not.
Speaker 2: I think our audience supposed to hear. We know that
Speaker 2: you're here to promote your book, but recently something happened
Speaker 2: to you. You had your second near death experience.
Speaker 6: Right right, Well, the first one I told you about.
Speaker 6: I was young and I had a boating accident. I
Speaker 6: was underwater, left my body for over twenty minutes, and
Speaker 6: I just learned downloaded the entire multiverse information without knowing
Speaker 6: what it was. And then that changed the course of
Speaker 6: my life. And so I talked to a lot of experts,
Speaker 6: and you know, people didn't believe that I'd been out
Speaker 6: of the body, underwater for twenty minutes. And this one expert,
Speaker 6: Lynn K Russell, she said that, you know, people had
Speaker 6: been out and clinically certified that they had been dead
Speaker 6: for forty eight hours in the Morde and came back
Speaker 6: to life. So she said, twenty minutes is nothing, Leora.
Speaker 2: So I was like, nothing to you, Maybe, yeah, right.
Speaker 7: Because I guess it's pretty painful coming back in after
Speaker 7: you've been out for so long. But I had been
Speaker 7: going In April, I had been going through a very
Speaker 7: serious situation that left me death and devastated, and I
Speaker 7: was having a really difficult time getting through it and
Speaker 7: everything that I teach I was doing, of course, but
Speaker 7: I kept going in and out of depression, and it
Speaker 7: seemed like I couldn't get through it no matter what
Speaker 7: I did. And so my daughter and I and some
Speaker 7: friends we went to Italy and we got back from Italy,
Speaker 7: and you know the long trip, like it's like twenty
Speaker 7: four hours of flying everything. So four days after I
Speaker 7: get back, probably still jetl like and everything.
Speaker 6: I like to hike. And I said to my daughter,
Speaker 6: you know, let's go hiking, because that's what we do
Speaker 6: on Saturdays. And she's like, all right. So we go
Speaker 6: to Griffith Park and there's the old zoo that they
Speaker 6: have there. It's really beautiful, and it was a hot day,
Speaker 6: like ninety one, and it's near Pasadena, so if you
Speaker 6: know Pasadena weather, it's just baking, baking hot. And I
Speaker 6: don't like hot older you get you don't like hot
Speaker 6: weather for some reason. But anyhow, it kept getting hotter
Speaker 6: and hotter, and you know, she and I were talking
Speaker 6: about the situation I was in and I'm just really
Speaker 6: really up, said and I couldn't get through it. And
Speaker 6: so I'm going up the hill and stopping and breathing
Speaker 6: and drinking water and going up further, and I'm like,
Speaker 6: you know what, we get up so far, and I said,
Speaker 6: I have to sit down, Nick, and she's like okay.
Speaker 6: So I sit down and I'm using my Apple watch
Speaker 6: my blood pressure, spine and everything, and I'm like okay.
Speaker 6: So I was feeling better, and I said, okay, I'm
Speaker 6: going to get up, and so I go help me out,
Speaker 6: and so she grabs my hand and pulls me up,
Speaker 6: and all of a sudden, everything starts to close in
Speaker 6: and I go I'm going down, and boom. The next minute,
Speaker 6: I knew I'm out of my body and I'm at peace,
Speaker 6: and I'm so happy, and I knew I had just died,
Speaker 6: and I didn't care. I didn't care that I left
Speaker 6: behind my daughter. I didn't care that anything. I was
Speaker 6: so relieved to get out of this lifetime that I
Speaker 6: was happy. And far off in the distance, I could
Speaker 6: hear screaming like ahm, like really loud screaming, and a
Speaker 6: voice told me they said, your daughter cannot handle it
Speaker 6: now if you die, and I'm like okay. So all
Speaker 6: of a sudden, I went wash and I went right
Speaker 6: back into my body and I come back in I'm like,
Speaker 6: what is there a bug on me? And she's like, mom,
Speaker 6: you were seizing. So I was having a literal seizure
Speaker 6: and my eyes were bugged out, my tongue was out,
Speaker 6: and I was shaking, and I thought I had just
Speaker 6: passed out when I came back in, so I told
Speaker 6: her what happened. And she's all angry because you know,
Speaker 6: you're not going hiking ever again, and yeah, and I'm
Speaker 6: like when she just go down the hill. And so
Speaker 6: we get down the hill and I had a headache
Speaker 6: and I knew it was probably heat stroke, right because
Speaker 6: I looked it up later and you can have a
Speaker 6: seizure from heatstroke, and I'm assuming that that's what it was.
Speaker 6: And I just that night I had a headache, and
Speaker 6: so I took you know, like a Imatrex or Motrin
Speaker 6: or something. And I wasn't worried because I knew what
Speaker 6: it was. I knew that I had died and I
Speaker 6: had come back, so I knew it was a wake
Speaker 6: up call. And so that night I went to bed,
Speaker 6: I get up in the morning, and my life shifted.
Speaker 6: All of the stress that I had been under was irrelevant.
Speaker 6: All of a sudden, I was like, I know what
Speaker 6: I'm going to do, ABC D me and I was like,
Speaker 6: thank you. Then I just started to like live my
Speaker 6: life and enjoy my life and be really really happy.
Speaker 6: And I think that I'm at a point spiritually or
Speaker 6: whatever you want to say, where my guides. It's almost
Speaker 6: like I have who's the wizard in Harry Potter? The
Speaker 6: number A one? Yeah, I've got him up. You know,
Speaker 6: it's actually me. That's our divine self. It's always talking
Speaker 6: to you. And now it's like, look at if you
Speaker 6: don't get out of this crap of three months of depression,
Speaker 6: we're going to knock you out and we're going to
Speaker 6: make you realize what you're doing in your life. And
Speaker 6: that's actually what happened. And since then I have been
Speaker 6: in this different space, a space of living what my
Speaker 6: book is about. Right. And to tell you how funny,
Speaker 6: I'm so connected now to my divine self, which we
Speaker 6: all are. We're all like driven by our divine self.
Speaker 6: It's a matter of how aware we are of that
Speaker 6: divine energy. And it's all of us, you know, taking
Speaker 6: us down our path. I was at the races and
Speaker 6: the horse races in San Diego, so high school friends
Speaker 6: came up when we went to the races, and I
Speaker 6: kept losing. I'm down like one hundred and fifty dollars, like,
Speaker 6: oh geez. I kept picking these you know who knew
Speaker 6: what I was picking, And so I saw my boy.
Speaker 6: My eyes kept darting towards this one called Zimbabwe, and
Speaker 6: I'm like, no, I don't want that, Zimbabwe. No, No,
Speaker 6: So I go up to the window and Zimbabwe was
Speaker 6: like three. So I picked four and five and I said,
Speaker 6: I don't want that. And I get up to the
Speaker 6: window and I get my ticket Zimbabwe, and I do
Speaker 6: across the board, like five bucks across the board, right,
Speaker 6: so I get to first, second, and third, and so
Speaker 6: then I got number four too, Zimbabwe one. So I'm like,
Speaker 6: all these things have been happening where my divine self
Speaker 6: is kind of sick of me, and it's like safe.
Speaker 8: We're gonna start showing you where to go, right, So
Speaker 8: that's kind of like your.
Speaker 2: Own devices, we got to show you.
Speaker 6: With you. So but those things have been happening, and
Speaker 6: it's really I'm in a really good place now because
Speaker 6: I remembered who I am. I remember who we are,
Speaker 6: who we are out of this physical body and you know,
Speaker 6: I listened to a lot to Dolores Cannon. Now when
Speaker 6: I have free time, I'll just yell, wash the dishes
Speaker 6: and listen to her. And she's so amazing and she
Speaker 6: talks about all these things that I had been talking
Speaker 6: about channeling that I didn't even know when she existed.
Speaker 6: And we're all here to be on our divine path. People,
Speaker 6: all of these entities race to get to Earth so
Speaker 6: that they can go through the physical experience. And when
Speaker 6: we're spiritual beings, we're like, give it all to me,
Speaker 6: give me everything, I can do it, and they're like, man,
Speaker 6: I don't think so yep, just give it all. And
Speaker 6: then you come into the physical reality and you're like,
Speaker 6: holy crap. And then somewhere along the line you wake
Speaker 6: up and you realize, Okay, I asked for and everything
Speaker 6: that has been in my life I asked for, and
Speaker 6: it's really it's it's fun. It gets to be like
Speaker 6: you create your reality, and when you take responsibility for
Speaker 6: everything in your life, it happens. This bad thing that
Speaker 6: happened and you don't want to discuss it because not
Speaker 6: a lot of people know, but I put it, I
Speaker 6: asked for it, but I didn't ask for it the
Speaker 6: way it happened, right could it happened? And so we
Speaker 6: asked for things be really clear when we talk to
Speaker 6: our higher selves, you know, and our guides and all
Speaker 6: that this is what I want. This is you know,
Speaker 6: be very specific.
Speaker 3: Careful what you ask where you just might get it
Speaker 3: exactly exactly right.
Speaker 6: So yeah, so it's you know, I talked to Lynn
Speaker 6: k Russell apton has happened? And I said, Lynn, I said,
Speaker 6: I had another near death experience And she goes, Oh,
Speaker 6: that's no big deal. People have them all the time,
Speaker 6: you know, like once you have one, you're prone to
Speaker 6: have it over and over again. And I'm like, wow,
Speaker 6: and I'll have to find this woman for you to
Speaker 6: have you bring her on the show. But she's had eight,
Speaker 6: so a lot of people. There's people. I'll find her
Speaker 6: name and get her for you so that you can
Speaker 6: have her on the show.
Speaker 2: Were you're saying is that that the experiences is like
Speaker 2: a tattoo, Like you can't just have one.
Speaker 6: Right who knew? Yeah? Who knew? But I know that
Speaker 6: it changes you. It gives you a perspective, and they
Speaker 6: come at a time when you're at a crossroads and
Speaker 6: then you realize you're like, oh, and it's kind of
Speaker 6: your higher self than multiverse saying look, this is the
Speaker 6: way it is. You don't need to be so stressed,
Speaker 6: you don't need to be so down. Take this path.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I've got so so, so many go ahead.
Speaker 2: We went through a lot of stuff. Before I get
Speaker 2: jumping into that, I gotta ask Karen because as Leora
Speaker 2: was sharing her experience, I watched you and you were
Speaker 2: you were having a hard time, and so why are
Speaker 2: you tuning up? It affected you?
Speaker 3: What happened then when she said that her daughter wasn't
Speaker 3: ready for it for whatever reason, I just felt like whoa,
Speaker 3: Like just this very strong feeling, and that just it
Speaker 3: shook me a little bit because I can I can
Speaker 3: imagine what she felt like she's losing her mom. And
Speaker 3: then as a mother, thinking your daughter's having hard time
Speaker 3: losing you, you know, there's like a it's a two
Speaker 3: way street. But then another part of you just wanting to.
Speaker 6: Go and you're given those options all the time, Like
Speaker 6: the first one they told me, all of a sudden,
Speaker 6: this voice came in after they showed me all of
Speaker 6: you know, all of these things in the multiverse and
Speaker 6: they said, your body can't so stained under the water anymore.
Speaker 6: It's you either have to go or go into the light.
Speaker 6: And I said, well what do I do? And they said,
Speaker 6: it's up to you. So at that second time, it
Speaker 6: was up to me too. And you know, she's getting
Speaker 6: married next year, and you know she lost her brother
Speaker 6: two years ago, my son, and so it's been a
Speaker 6: really difficult time for her. So I knew I needed
Speaker 6: to do one more mother thing that was important for her.
Speaker 2: So I suppose that what you're doing now is we
Speaker 2: never know where we're going to go. So I'm sure
Speaker 2: you're probably trying to get her in a better space
Speaker 2: so that it's gone for me, something happens, she's more faired. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you mentioned something else while you're talking. You said that
Speaker 2: we raced to this berth for this experience. Isn't there
Speaker 2: someone out there that can kick us in the head
Speaker 2: and make us get to our real right? Who would
Speaker 2: want to do this, like, who want to come here
Speaker 2: specifically to experience these hardships just so we can say that's.
Speaker 3: It in there, not that well in there?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 6: Well, I guess for you know, we are all part
Speaker 6: of the divine When we're out of the physical reality.
Speaker 6: We are all God, the whole God for us, that's
Speaker 6: who we are, and we're just at different levels of understanding.
Speaker 6: But from what I understand, when we're in the spirit
Speaker 6: world and we've had you know, a long time, either
Speaker 6: at you know, a stationary planet that we come before
Speaker 6: we go into an incarnational existence or up in the divine,
Speaker 6: it becomes where we want to come back in and
Speaker 6: it's almost like us watching a movie. So we're it's
Speaker 6: kind of like entertaining for us as spirits, because in
Speaker 6: spirits we can handle anything. But when we get into
Speaker 6: the physical that's why we wake up. That's why we
Speaker 6: have to realize that we're in it. We're the driver's
Speaker 6: seat and working controlling everything, you know, and we can
Speaker 6: have the life we want because it's all.
Speaker 2: So basically you're saying that spirits are masochists.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it feels that way, it doesn't sometimes, right, Daredevil's.
Speaker 2: So, you recently released your book The Powers In You,
Speaker 2: and I assume that in your near death experience there
Speaker 2: it is a beautiful cover. Did your near death experience
Speaker 2: and motivate you writing this book or are the messages
Speaker 2: in the book specifically from that.
Speaker 6: No, you know, well there's there's part of it. But
Speaker 6: this book is about it's a collection of all of
Speaker 6: my life experience and all of my metaphysical experiences, everything included.
Speaker 6: And you know I had taught before. The life that
Speaker 6: I had was super, super difficult. And you know, two
Speaker 6: years ago I thought, you know, my son died and
Speaker 6: I thought, well that'll be the end of it, you know,
Speaker 6: it'll be it won't be so bad anymore. And then
Speaker 6: this other thing happened and just devist And it's a
Speaker 6: collection of how to understand who we are and why
Speaker 6: we're here. And you know, people go to healers, which
Speaker 6: is great. I'm a healer. People go all over to
Speaker 6: try to get this fix, you know, make me feel
Speaker 6: better and you release. So what we're here to do
Speaker 6: is to evolve to the point where we wake up
Speaker 6: and we start to realize who we are out of
Speaker 6: this physical body. And when that happens, then we can
Speaker 6: start to manipulate. And there we go again. We can
Speaker 6: start to manipulate our life and create the life that
Speaker 6: we want. Because it's all based on energy, the whole
Speaker 6: concept of what we are. We're in the divine, we
Speaker 6: come down, we get ready for a physical existence, and
Speaker 6: there's millions of physical existences incarnational planet throughout the multiverse.
Speaker 6: Earth is not just one. There are many. We're one
Speaker 6: of the human ones, and there's other human ones, but
Speaker 6: there's other different species that are incarnational, you know, on
Speaker 6: other planets. But we come down here and we and
Speaker 6: I told you this before. We start out somewhere like
Speaker 6: a caveman, end up somewhere like Gandhi, and in the
Speaker 6: middle we wake up and we start to realize who
Speaker 6: we are, why we're here, and then change our life
Speaker 6: and learn how to I don't want to say manipulate,
Speaker 6: that's not a correct term, but we learn how to
Speaker 6: create the life that we desire so that we can
Speaker 6: have a happy life. You know. Buddhist says that everything
Speaker 6: that happens is has nothing attached to it. Every action
Speaker 6: is benign. Everything that we attach to it is where
Speaker 6: the pain and suffering comes in. When someone dies, it's
Speaker 6: a benign action and they're all they're happy, just like
Speaker 6: I was out of the body. I'm like, I'm ready
Speaker 6: to go, and for us it's devastating. Those are emotions
Speaker 6: that we attach to everything. So in my book, what
Speaker 6: I do is I give you all of the information
Speaker 6: from the quantum mechanics, how the brain works. I talk
Speaker 6: about why we are the way we are. Did it
Speaker 6: come from our childhood? Did it come from another life?
Speaker 6: We're curying this energy. Everything is energy. So I teach
Speaker 6: you how I plant these little seeds in your head
Speaker 6: and in your subconscious so that you are constantly thinking
Speaker 6: about what this book is about and how I can
Speaker 6: change my life. And people used to ask me what
Speaker 6: is self love? And I knew what it was, but
Speaker 6: I didn't know how to explain it. But since I
Speaker 6: wrote the book, I understand now that it is the
Speaker 6: optimization or body, mind, spirit, thoughts, words and actions. So
Speaker 6: being in the optimization of your body meaning being healthy,
Speaker 6: working out, doing everything you can to optimize your body's performance.
Speaker 6: Next is the mind where you're reading uplifting you know, material,
Speaker 6: watching podcasts like your podcast, then meditating spiritually, and then thoughts,
Speaker 6: words and actions. You're utilizing what you know to stay
Speaker 6: in the vibration of love your action instead of flipping
Speaker 6: somebody off when they cut you off. You know, you're like, okay, dude,
Speaker 6: go ahead. You're you know in as you're in a
Speaker 6: different frame. You know, words words have such radical vibration,
Speaker 6: they can hurt you like a knight. And then thoughts,
Speaker 6: and we have eighty two thousand thoughts or more a
Speaker 6: day controlling those and making sure that every single thought
Speaker 6: is in the vibration of love. So all of that
Speaker 6: is the vibration of love. Optimizing every area of your
Speaker 6: life goes six. So that's an equation that I came
Speaker 6: up with, optimization of body, mind, spirit, thoughts, words, and
Speaker 6: actions equal.
Speaker 2: We need to take a quick break, but we'll be
Speaker 2: right back with more amazing conversation on the skeptic metaphysicians.
Speaker 1: And now back to the skeptic metaphysicians.
Speaker 4: So you talked about this first near death experience. I
Speaker 4: guess death experience because you're under for twenty minutes. And
Speaker 4: we've heard that from a lot of people that the
Speaker 4: interview that had this big event in their life, something
Speaker 4: has happening and they have this awakening. Do you think
Speaker 4: an event sort of thing is necessary in order to
Speaker 4: start that awakening.
Speaker 3: Or are some people is it easier for some people?
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on that.
Speaker 6: You know, it seems to me that that would be
Speaker 6: for me understanding that is it has to be an
Speaker 6: event being human and the way we look at things,
Speaker 6: and it gives us that opportunity to jump out rather
Speaker 6: than just to be you know, walking along cooking your
Speaker 6: macaroni and you're out, you know, And I mean it
Speaker 6: could happen that way too. I don't know, but it
Speaker 6: just seems like an event like that gives us the
Speaker 6: opportunity to get out of the body easier.
Speaker 4: Because you have people that as a child were able
Speaker 4: to kind of see this or understand this.
Speaker 6: More so maybe yeah, you know, kids like I'm sure
Speaker 6: that when you are walking down the street and you
Speaker 6: see this little kid and it looks at you, and
Speaker 6: just like penetrates like their kids are powerful, especially nowadays.
Speaker 6: They're so jacked up on these new type of tweaks
Speaker 6: that the aliens have done to us. So they're they're awake,
Speaker 6: like people are being born awake, and they're powerful, and yeah,
Speaker 6: they're still connected. I have a friend. Her grandson is
Speaker 6: four years old, and now he's starting to forget, but
Speaker 6: he's like Grandma, I used to be married to Matilda,
Speaker 6: And she's like, who's Matilda? He goes in my other
Speaker 6: life I was married to her, so he knew his
Speaker 6: whole other life and then now it's slipping away as
Speaker 6: he gets older. But yeah, they're in tune. I don't
Speaker 6: know if I answered your question.
Speaker 2: But you said something like let go just drop the
Speaker 2: letters of nothing, but you said something about aliens. Are
Speaker 2: they currently tweaking us as we speak?
Speaker 6: Yes? Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Is that what the abduction experience is? Or is it
Speaker 2: before we are born? How? What?
Speaker 3: Huh?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 6: And I don't think it's an abduction. I think rather
Speaker 6: it's an agreement that you go along with them. So
Speaker 6: and if you look and this is so backed up
Speaker 6: by science anthropology, uh when and you know it's funny.
Speaker 6: I have known this because they showed me, But Dolores
Speaker 6: Cannon talks about it too, and she when she would
Speaker 6: do pastlight progressions on people, they would the higher vibrational
Speaker 6: beings will come in and say, this is what we're doing.
Speaker 6: But what I know and what she confirms is that
Speaker 6: you know, planets were created and they wanted a human
Speaker 6: or they wanted to form a being that could incarnate,
Speaker 6: but it could survive and grow and become more powerful
Speaker 6: and all knowing. And if you look at is it
Speaker 6: anthropology where they dig up? What's that when they get
Speaker 6: things archaeology, Well they're digging up small little bodies, big
Speaker 6: gigantic bodies. These were all tests. And if you go
Speaker 6: through Egyptian history too, you see humans that had an
Speaker 6: animal brain and all of like if you watch what
Speaker 6: is it called alien? What's the show? It's Agent Aliens
Speaker 6: and they tell you everything, and I mean, this is
Speaker 6: all confirming everything that I know. But they want wanted
Speaker 6: to find a being that could do the incarnational journey
Speaker 6: and the reason behind it that I know and that
Speaker 6: I was shown by people that I would channel is
Speaker 6: the incarnational being. Every time they raise their vibration, there's
Speaker 6: a byproduct of that raising your vibration. And do you
Speaker 6: know what that is?
Speaker 2: I want to say, Sam, what did you say? Spam?
Speaker 2: What is a spam?
Speaker 6: Spam?
Speaker 2: Yeah? The by product? I'm just thinking, what's.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, you know I thought we were going
Speaker 4: to think what I watch?
Speaker 6: I watch his post on Facebook all the time? Great?
Speaker 3: Why I live his posts?
Speaker 4: Not that.
Speaker 2: I keep things interesting?
Speaker 3: You got at least?
Speaker 2: So no, what what?
Speaker 6: What is?
Speaker 2: What is the by product?
Speaker 6: The by product is love? So every time you raise
Speaker 6: your vibration, every time you make a choice to be
Speaker 6: a better person, there is an energy factor that is
Speaker 6: excreted and that is loved, and the purpose of the
Speaker 6: multiverse is to stay in the balance of love. So
Speaker 6: that's why we were created. We were created and all
Speaker 6: of the other planets like us so that we could
Speaker 6: we're actually miners, miners of love, and that's you know,
Speaker 6: we're all divine beings. And the Earth and the multiverse
Speaker 6: has been around so many trillions and trill I don't
Speaker 6: even know what guns beyond trillions. But we're just these little,
Speaker 6: you know, young people, young kids were like kindergarten, and
Speaker 6: we're learning how to do it. But that's what they want.
Speaker 6: They want planets where the incarnational beings will grow and
Speaker 6: evolved and eventually become loving entities true to their divine self.
Speaker 4: I love that she's totally speaking my language, all about
Speaker 4: the love.
Speaker 2: Let's get back to your book, because I love the
Speaker 2: all going off the rails. But we need to go
Speaker 2: back because I've got an entire list of question I've
Speaker 2: got to get to a tool. The book actually teaches
Speaker 2: you about the science behind metaphysics, right and the working
Speaker 2: of the multiverse, and we've touched on it a little bit. Opinion,
Speaker 2: keep us a little bit more into that.
Speaker 6: Well, in twenty twelve, scientists discover discovered the God particle,
Speaker 6: the bosim Higgs particle. So in twenty twelve was actually
Speaker 6: a huge spiritual awakening. That's kind of when I really
Speaker 6: went down the rabbit hole. But that by scientists that
Speaker 6: don't believe in God, and they don't believe in a
Speaker 6: lot of things other than just science said so much.
Speaker 6: And this God particle is in every human, every animal,
Speaker 6: every plant, everything that is on the planet has the
Speaker 6: God particle. So that's part of the quantum mechanics that
Speaker 6: we understand that we are all one living breathing into
Speaker 6: the earth. You know. Unfortunately, and I think fortunately now
Speaker 6: we're starting to shift with this new generation of kids
Speaker 6: who are crazy about saving our planet. And by the way,
Speaker 6: did you hear what the guy that owns Pantagonia did
Speaker 6: donated three billion so all of his profits per year,
Speaker 6: they're like three billion dollars, donated it all to planet Earth.
Speaker 6: So that the shift is happening. We are changing, We
Speaker 6: are becoming this planet. So we are finding out who
Speaker 6: we are. We are these divine beads and we and
Speaker 6: I was told a long time ago by the people
Speaker 6: that you know, I would channel that the paris the
Speaker 6: Earth is trying to get rid of her parasites through
Speaker 6: what's happening with global warning, and then the people would say, well,
Speaker 6: who are the parasites, And we are the parasites. We
Speaker 6: are the ones that are you know, shifting the planet.
Speaker 6: Look what we've done in one hundred and fifty years
Speaker 6: from the Industrial Revolution we have in one hundred and
Speaker 6: fifty years we have done to the planet Earth. I mean,
Speaker 6: it's mind boggling. There's been around more millions and billions
Speaker 6: of years. But so those are the things that I
Speaker 6: teach because I want them to understand. I want them
Speaker 6: to understand religion and where you are and your religious beliefs,
Speaker 6: and religion as a man made vehicle. So you know,
Speaker 6: the medicis they wanted you know, money, they wanted to
Speaker 6: put fear into people. So those are some of the
Speaker 6: things in the book that I talk about. I talk
Speaker 6: about meditation, I talk about the energy zones of the
Speaker 6: body and how we are pure energy. And that's why
Speaker 6: when I talk about words being so hurtful, because everything
Speaker 6: carries energy, and any kind of negative energy that comes
Speaker 6: at you is painful, you know, physical, but words are
Speaker 6: really severe. So I talk about the energy and words
Speaker 6: energy and the body. I talk about how important meditation is.
Speaker 6: You know, having a sum with severe audism and bipolar
Speaker 6: for twenty five years, it was nobody can even under.
Speaker 6: People say, oh, I work, you know, sixty eighty hours,
Speaker 6: and I'm like, you know what, I don't cure And
Speaker 6: I worked those hours when I was in corporate, but
Speaker 6: taking care of a child twenty four to seven NonStop.
Speaker 6: You know, That's why I started writing because I could
Speaker 6: do it and I could leave and go be with him.
Speaker 6: But if I didn't meditate, if I didn't connect to
Speaker 6: that source to pull that energy down to help me,
Speaker 6: I never would have made it. And Brandon even knew.
Speaker 6: In the beginning, he wouldn't let me and he'd pound
Speaker 6: at the door and I would just ignore him. But
Speaker 6: later on, when I'd have a stressful day, he'd take
Speaker 6: me by the hand and take me to my room
Speaker 6: and say, mom, close your eyes because he knew what
Speaker 6: it did. So the superpowers that we have meditation is
Speaker 6: the moment. And I'm not talking gardening. I'm not talking
Speaker 6: about walking. Walking meditations are good, but we're talking about
Speaker 6: the meditation where your body is shut down, your mind
Speaker 6: is shut down, and you are you are connecting to
Speaker 6: who you really are in the vine.
Speaker 2: Become yourself and true SELFI yeah.
Speaker 6: And just you know, the things that we feed ourselves,
Speaker 6: our bodies, and so you know, I had stage three
Speaker 6: breast cancer. Then I had the fake boobs put on
Speaker 6: and I had to have them taken off, and I
Speaker 6: had breast implant illness on autoimmune and I've had to
Speaker 6: you know, be a female without having breast, which has
Speaker 6: been super difficult. But it was one of these challenges
Speaker 6: that I took on and of course I put that
Speaker 6: in so I learned too. And it's so interesting because
Speaker 6: I always took care of myself, but I ate a
Speaker 6: lot of meat and everything. But I learned how to
Speaker 6: optimize my body. So I take supplements, I juice, I
Speaker 6: work out to the extent. Now it's different because I
Speaker 6: go walking three times a week and then I hike
Speaker 6: on the weekends. So everything's kind of shifted with my age.
Speaker 6: But I take care of my body. I optimize my
Speaker 6: body and my mind. What I bring in listening to
Speaker 6: your podcast, listening to the people that you know are
Speaker 6: in the know, listening to that information is amazing. I
Speaker 6: try to. That's what's in my book is that you
Speaker 6: have control of every single thing in your life, and
Speaker 6: then you can start controlling when you have your thoughts
Speaker 6: to where they're staying in the vibration of love and
Speaker 6: they're staying in abundance, you can bring everything to you.
Speaker 6: And that's the way it works, and that's in the book,
Speaker 6: and I teach you.
Speaker 2: How to do it, all right, can't wait to read
Speaker 2: that book.
Speaker 6: I'm going to send you, guys, you have to give
Speaker 6: me your address. I'll send you a.
Speaker 3: Couple of.
Speaker 2: Definitely, because it is. It's a work book, right, so
Speaker 2: we're gonna have to kind of write, and you know what.
Speaker 6: It's so easy. The thing about it is because people
Speaker 6: nowadays have ADHD, right, they can't they can't focus for
Speaker 6: more than two minutes. So this is one chapter. This
Speaker 6: is one chapter. Then we go on to another chapter
Speaker 6: that has three paragraphs, so I mean every there's not
Speaker 6: a chapter in there that has more than four or
Speaker 6: five paragraphs. And then at the end it has questions,
Speaker 6: and then at the end it has the journal. So
Speaker 6: you start out in the morning and at night you
Speaker 6: write all the things you want to do. Bodyline spirit, thoughts, words,
Speaker 6: and actions. And then in the morning you get up
Speaker 6: and you do your alignment, your three minute alignment, you know,
Speaker 6: connecting to the divine, connecting to the earth, protecting, and
Speaker 6: then think about what you're grateful for, and then think
Speaker 6: about who you love and boom, you're ready to start
Speaker 6: your day.
Speaker 2: That's amazing. I mean that the book from what I read,
Speaker 2: really kind of gives you a step by step right
Speaker 2: you can go at your whole pace. It really gives
Speaker 2: you step by step on how to find the power insiding.
Speaker 2: That's that's fantastic. This is all great. We're talking about
Speaker 2: wonderful things. Thought with the world nowadays, it's really it's
Speaker 2: really divided. So some of us are actively looking to
Speaker 2: move into the five D S das others are kind
Speaker 2: of digging in their heels and saying not you know,
Speaker 2: over my dead body and kind of thing. So it's
Speaker 2: causing some serious ructures in our culture, in our society.
Speaker 2: How can those of us who are trying to better
Speaker 2: ourself and our human experience help to bring those along
Speaker 2: that maybe arn't choosing really to see the truth. We
Speaker 2: can't you're saying, you're saying shit in your head not
Speaker 2: a chance.
Speaker 6: That's everybody is at their level of understanding, and when
Speaker 6: you come to that realization, you can never change anyone.
Speaker 6: You can only change yourself, and people will drop off
Speaker 6: out of your life people when they're at a level
Speaker 6: of understanding. No matter what you say, how you format it,
Speaker 6: they just don't get it. And so stop trying. I've
Speaker 6: stopped trying to, you know, fix people because it doesn't work.
Speaker 6: I fix people are on a broad level. If they
Speaker 6: want to be fixed, they come to me and then
Speaker 6: I give them information. But you cannot change anybody. And
Speaker 6: that's one of the things we're remember how I said,
Speaker 6: we start out as caveman and end up as Gandhi.
Speaker 6: Everybody's at their level of understanding, so you cannot and
Speaker 6: you can't be angry at them because that's part of
Speaker 6: the whole collective. You have to accept them, not judge them,
Speaker 6: and love them like you love yourself. And that's the
Speaker 6: only way you can deal with it. You are going
Speaker 6: to go into your you know, fifth element, happily and
Speaker 6: understanding and being lovely, love loving and non judgmental with
Speaker 6: these people because it's just a level of understanding.
Speaker 4: So well, it seems like those people will never have
Speaker 4: an awakening, And I mean, does everybody go through or
Speaker 4: is that the your incarnation? You keep coming back until
Speaker 4: you wake up. So that's exactly a choose to come back. Like, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's exactly what it is, Karen.
Speaker 6: I mean, you know Hitler was one of those people,
Speaker 6: and you know, I'm sure he's come back and you know,
Speaker 6: regretted it and lived a really horrible life to delete
Speaker 6: that karma. So we just keep evolving. We all of us,
Speaker 6: all three of us right now, we have been murderers, rapists.
Speaker 6: We had gone through a bunch of lifetimes that we're like,
Speaker 6: I would never do that in this life you wouldn't,
Speaker 6: but in other lives you had. And because now you awake,
Speaker 6: you awaken at one point and that's when you start
Speaker 6: to shift. So we've all been that, We've all been
Speaker 6: the bad guy and now we're lucky enough to be
Speaker 6: a good guy. So you mentioned earlier past life regression.
Speaker 6: Should I be afraid, No, I want to find out.
Speaker 3: Something that was horrible.
Speaker 6: No, no, no, But you know what, and you know,
Speaker 6: I your energy is beautiful. You have this really loving
Speaker 6: energy and I feel your acceptance and yeah it'll be
Speaker 6: and it's just really easy. See, you are given what
Speaker 6: correlates with this light and the people in your life.
Speaker 6: Now you'll be given lives possibly with them. So it's
Speaker 6: given what you need to understand for this particular lifetime. Yeah,
Speaker 6: so don't be afraid, and will we'll do another one
Speaker 6: if you want to for you too, so that because
Speaker 6: now you're at a different level, so other things will
Speaker 6: come up too, right Lee Or she.
Speaker 2: Actually just started meditating with me in the mornings, which
Speaker 2: has been wonderful, and she has made like these massive
Speaker 2: leaps in just a few times she's done it. Something
Speaker 2: remarkable happen today that we're going to have to record
Speaker 2: a session about because it truly it was so inspiring
Speaker 2: that we're doing to talk about it at some point.
Speaker 2: But it really helped show her the power of meditation
Speaker 2: to open herself up to the universal messaging. It was astounded.
Speaker 2: So we need to get you really meditating hearings that you.
Speaker 6: I see that in her, she's got that energy where
Speaker 6: she's open. She just it's like a baby just going
Speaker 6: whoa you know, like and and you're open and so
Speaker 6: now is when the cool stuff starts to happen. When
Speaker 6: you start you know, having all of the yeah, like
Speaker 6: it's yeah, yeah, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: I'll have to tell her yeah, and not jealous at all.
Speaker 8: No, and don't be jealous, you know, because you're going
Speaker 8: to go beyond and you'll have the more, you know,
Speaker 8: like in the beginning, rapid fire of all these things
Speaker 8: start happening for.
Speaker 2: Two years and she's that's okay.
Speaker 6: There, I know, I know a fast learner. Yeah, and
Speaker 6: that's that's you know, the level that she's at. She's
Speaker 6: on this. You know, once you there are some that
Speaker 6: and that's what happened to me. The minute that I
Speaker 6: woke up, I was like, I want to know everything.
Speaker 6: Just give it all to me and and let me experience.
Speaker 6: I wanted to touch on one thing that's important about
Speaker 6: my book, and you know people nowadays, people, I guess
Speaker 6: I've always wanted That's why the pharmaceutical and industry is
Speaker 6: so big. But people want to quick fix. They're lazy,
Speaker 6: they don't want to do the work. They just if
Speaker 6: it comes to where well, you know, I don't know,
Speaker 6: I know I shouldn't. You have to. You have to
Speaker 6: want to get there, you have to want to do
Speaker 6: the work. You can go to people and get healed,
Speaker 6: and you can go here and get healed, but you're
Speaker 6: going to keep coming back, and you're going to keep
Speaker 6: coming back. You have to start to do the work yourself,
Speaker 6: and you start out with davy steps, just little tiny things.
Speaker 6: But then what this book does is plant the seeds,
Speaker 6: so you keep awakening all the work that you've been doing.
Speaker 6: Karen with Will is been planting seeds in your head.
Speaker 6: And that's why you're having these huge you know, gigant
Speaker 6: make things happen, because these seeds have been planted, and
Speaker 6: all you're like, I'm ready, right, you.
Speaker 2: Think I have a forest in my backyard. I got
Speaker 2: a little prop. I got nothing. That's not true.
Speaker 9: That's not something to brag about. Will Sam Sam Sam.
Speaker 3: Highlight her.
Speaker 2: I see the jokes on the I see joh wow.
Speaker 10: Okay, this time is flown by you that I would
Speaker 10: because you are just you are one of my absolute
Speaker 10: favorite people.
Speaker 2: I'm so so thrilled. Let me tell me your chance
Speaker 2: to talk. Thank you again so much for the gracious
Speaker 2: offer of the Past Life Regress.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 2: If someone wanted to order the book, I know that
Speaker 2: it's on Amazon. And it's also something we didn't talk about.
Speaker 2: It's actually been translated right to Polish and Spanish.
Speaker 6: Wow, yeah, into Spanish and Polish. And I am going
Speaker 6: to Poland. I'm having a conference, a weekend conference where
Speaker 6: I go, I do everything out of the book, and
Speaker 6: then after that week I'm i'd be doing the individuals.
Speaker 6: But yeah, they're flying me in and I'm going to
Speaker 6: do a whole thing, you know about the power. They're
Speaker 6: really receptive over there. They have started their spiritual awakening
Speaker 6: and they're just hungry for stuff. So yeah, so and
Speaker 6: the Polish people.
Speaker 3: Are wonderful, well, so exciting.
Speaker 2: We look forward to seeing the postcard. Yeah, I got it.
Speaker 6: And if you guys want to come out to California,
Speaker 6: you're welcome to stay at my house so you have
Speaker 6: a place to stay.
Speaker 2: Be careful what you would say, because that's okay, I'm good.
Speaker 6: We are.
Speaker 8: Well.
Speaker 2: Your book, The Power Then You is on Amazon. Will
Speaker 2: add a direct link to that in our show. So
Speaker 2: if you listen to this on the radio, just go
Speaker 2: to Skepticmanposition dot com, go to Leora Leones episode, and
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Speaker 2: or thank you so much, such a wonderful time spending
Speaker 2: time with you. Yes, thank you, see you guys.
Speaker 6: Thank you You're amazing.
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