WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:04.879 The Chilly Effect is sponsored by Wallstreet, Windows dot Com 2 00:00:04.919 --> 00:00:10.080 and listeners like you Yeah Now, Best Reggivated Noise and 3 00:00:10.759 --> 00:00:14.519 a Media Chucky. 4 00:00:13.839 --> 00:00:15.960 June fifteen, twenty twenty two. 5 00:00:16.079 --> 00:00:18.600 Allegedly, according to that thing we call a calendar, this 6 00:00:18.679 --> 00:00:20.519 happens to be the show you were looking for. 7 00:00:20.920 --> 00:00:22.679 How do I know that? Because you're hearing me say 8 00:00:22.719 --> 00:00:24.039 this anyway. 9 00:00:23.719 --> 00:00:27.440 Wednesday, Wildnesday, middle of the week, that's right, and this 10 00:00:27.600 --> 00:00:29.960 is the wildcard. Now, if you're listening to me on 11 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:31.760 the live streaming, you're going, what the hell? Why'd you 12 00:00:31.760 --> 00:00:33.079 start eight nine minutes late? 13 00:00:33.679 --> 00:00:33.960 Eh? 14 00:00:34.119 --> 00:00:36.359 Technical issues abound, but let's see if we can keep 15 00:00:36.359 --> 00:00:39.880 them under control at least for the next two hours, 16 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:46.079 and it will be an interesting two hours. First hour, 17 00:00:46.200 --> 00:00:48.159 you know what, I'm gonna let my first hour guest 18 00:00:48.280 --> 00:00:51.479 introduce himself because I look at a lot of different 19 00:00:51.479 --> 00:00:55.079 ways I could introduce him and I'm not sure how 20 00:00:55.079 --> 00:00:59.840 this conversation is gonna go. H this is This could 21 00:00:59.840 --> 00:01:02.840 be one of the most awkward first time guest appearances ever. 22 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:06.719 But then again, maybe not. I have no idea. Of course. 23 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:09.400 This comes from the mind of nature Boy, the Wednesday 24 00:01:09.480 --> 00:01:12.799 night producer, who I don't put any restrictions on as 25 00:01:12.799 --> 00:01:14.519 far as who it is he thinks would be interesting 26 00:01:14.560 --> 00:01:17.000 to bring on the show. So there's that in the 27 00:01:17.040 --> 00:01:19.959 first hour, stick around for it. In the second we'll 28 00:01:20.000 --> 00:01:22.920 get to John Potash, who you have heard from before 29 00:01:22.959 --> 00:01:26.480 on this show, and we might be covering some stuff 30 00:01:27.200 --> 00:01:28.599 I don't know that'll get me kicked off with. 31 00:01:28.640 --> 00:01:29.719 Some platform or other. 32 00:01:30.439 --> 00:01:32.560 I do want to talk to him about the TUPAC 33 00:01:32.599 --> 00:01:36.200 documentary piece, but he's got a newer one that's coming 34 00:01:36.239 --> 00:01:38.879 out that we did talk about some months ago on 35 00:01:38.959 --> 00:01:42.640 the show. He is the author of weapons Oh Man. 36 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:44.079 I don't want to screw up the title. I got 37 00:01:44.120 --> 00:01:47.239 it on my bookshelf behind me. But look the drug 38 00:01:47.280 --> 00:01:52.439 war and the absolute lunacy, ridiculousness and sham and fraud 39 00:01:52.480 --> 00:01:55.599 that it is. John Potash is an author to discuss 40 00:01:55.680 --> 00:02:00.480 that about. Anyways, we'll get into that. But documentary in 41 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:02.040 the second hour with John Potess. 42 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:05.239 Okay. So again, as I said my first hour guest, 43 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:06.959 unusual to. 44 00:02:06.920 --> 00:02:13.479 Say the least. Okay, And I'll tell you, Joel. Your 45 00:02:13.479 --> 00:02:15.319 first name is Joel and that's all the listeners know 46 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:19.680 at the moment. So how would you introduce yourself to 47 00:02:19.719 --> 00:02:22.560 some people who hear people talking all the time about politics, 48 00:02:22.560 --> 00:02:23.840 social issues, everything else. 49 00:02:24.599 --> 00:02:25.120 Raw thing. 50 00:02:25.280 --> 00:02:27.599 You're coming out of nowhere, And of course we'll talk 51 00:02:27.599 --> 00:02:29.520 about where people can find you and all that before 52 00:02:29.560 --> 00:02:32.680 we're done discussing things tonight. You are an interesting character 53 00:02:32.719 --> 00:02:36.439 all the way around, so let's just do it that way. 54 00:02:36.560 --> 00:02:38.840 How would you introduce yourself? Okay, people you never heard 55 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:40.439 of me before, this is who I am. 56 00:02:41.719 --> 00:02:44.520 Well, first and foremost, thank you so much for having 57 00:02:44.560 --> 00:02:45.960 me this podcast. 58 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:47.919 I mean, it's phenomenal to even be here. 59 00:02:48.599 --> 00:02:50.840 Well, for the people who don't know me, I'm Joe 60 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:55.199 Joel and I go by Token Black Guy USA, so 61 00:02:55.800 --> 00:02:58.639 I know the name is very unique to a point 62 00:02:58.639 --> 00:03:01.360 where I just want to spark conversation every time someone 63 00:03:01.439 --> 00:03:04.680 hears it, so it'll get you asking questions. But I 64 00:03:04.719 --> 00:03:08.479 was actually born in Africa. I was adopted into a 65 00:03:08.520 --> 00:03:12.639 military family at the age of fourteen years old, but 66 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:16.439 I was in an orphanage for basically. 67 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:16.719 My whole life. 68 00:03:16.800 --> 00:03:19.120 I started learning English when I was five years old, 69 00:03:19.479 --> 00:03:22.560 and from then on it was like meant to be man. 70 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:25.080 I know what it's like not to be an American. 71 00:03:25.199 --> 00:03:28.120 So from the time I was five, I knew America 72 00:03:28.360 --> 00:03:31.080 was kind of my destiny and I had to be 73 00:03:31.159 --> 00:03:36.560 here because honestly, opportunity arise in the US and you 74 00:03:36.680 --> 00:03:38.680 have to pursue that American dream. 75 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:40.840 And that's kind of. 76 00:03:40.159 --> 00:03:44.280 My story in a nutshell, but adopted from in a 77 00:03:44.319 --> 00:03:48.919 military family with predominantly white parents, even though I really 78 00:03:48.919 --> 00:03:53.759 don't see color, but apparently I'm supposed to. So my 79 00:03:53.919 --> 00:03:58.800 parents are two tremendous individuals who have instilled so much 80 00:03:59.000 --> 00:04:02.639 conservatism into my life. But it's always kind of ran 81 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:07.080 in like my bloodstream, I feel like, because everything just 82 00:04:07.080 --> 00:04:08.520 comes naturally when it comes to. 83 00:04:08.520 --> 00:04:09.840 My thought process. 84 00:04:09.919 --> 00:04:13.439 And I guess a lot of people are triggered by 85 00:04:13.520 --> 00:04:17.399 that fact because they see me and they say, I'm 86 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:19.439 supposed to be on one side of the aisle, and 87 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:23.800 then they hear me speak and they're like, Okay, interesting, 88 00:04:24.160 --> 00:04:27.720 maybe he's not one of us. And they're kind of 89 00:04:27.800 --> 00:04:29.199 right because I'm. 90 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:29.519 In the middle. 91 00:04:29.959 --> 00:04:32.560 I'm not on the left, I'm not in the right, 92 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:34.800 but I'm actually more on the right than I am 93 00:04:34.839 --> 00:04:35.399 on the left. 94 00:04:35.519 --> 00:04:38.199 But I don't really play the identity game. 95 00:04:38.360 --> 00:04:40.720 I like to talk about it, but I don't play 96 00:04:40.720 --> 00:04:43.959 the identity game like they ask me to do so. 97 00:04:44.360 --> 00:04:48.120 But all in all, I'm a college student who just 98 00:04:48.240 --> 00:04:53.000 graduated college, living my American dream already. So and now 99 00:04:53.040 --> 00:04:57.000 I'm working for the North Carolina GOP ready to take 100 00:04:57.079 --> 00:05:02.639 on the awful Biden administration this midterm election. So yeah, 101 00:05:02.680 --> 00:05:05.839 there's far more behind that story, but that's just me 102 00:05:06.079 --> 00:05:06.879 in a nut show. 103 00:05:07.920 --> 00:05:08.319 Awesome. 104 00:05:08.360 --> 00:05:12.000 Well, look, you know, first of all, it already sounds 105 00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:15.879 pretty unusual. Tell you why, you know, token black guy? 106 00:05:15.959 --> 00:05:17.720 First thing, I think, I'm sorry. I watched a lot 107 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:23.480 of cartoons is south Park, and recently they decided that 108 00:05:23.519 --> 00:05:25.800 they were going to say that token was actually named Tolkien. 109 00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:27.360 But he's been token. 110 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:30.480 Black guy a black kid for years on the show, right, 111 00:05:31.839 --> 00:05:34.360 and began as a joke because he was literally the 112 00:05:34.360 --> 00:05:38.160 only black character in South Park. So I'm wondering if 113 00:05:38.199 --> 00:05:41.639 that inspired any of this token black guy USA stuff 114 00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:44.480 or if, you know, did that have anything to do 115 00:05:44.519 --> 00:05:44.759 with it. 116 00:05:45.279 --> 00:05:48.360 It actually had nothing to do with it until after 117 00:05:48.759 --> 00:05:51.000 everybody was like, oh, is it from. 118 00:05:50.839 --> 00:05:53.439 The South Park I'm like, no, I don't. 119 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:55.879 Watch South Park. I had never heard about it. I 120 00:05:55.920 --> 00:05:59.040 actually had to google it. But it actually stems more 121 00:05:59.079 --> 00:06:02.319 from the fact that I've always kind of been that 122 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:06.800 token guy who happens to be black in the. 123 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:09.160 Group a circle of his friends. 124 00:06:09.319 --> 00:06:13.800 I've never always like just assumed or gotten into like 125 00:06:14.000 --> 00:06:16.959 one area or one black group or one white group 126 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:20.040 or whatever. It's always been a very diverse group of 127 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:23.240 friends that I've been surrounded with, and I thank God 128 00:06:23.319 --> 00:06:26.480 for that. But I've always been that one black guy 129 00:06:26.879 --> 00:06:29.759 in that circle. So I was like, Okay, something that 130 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:33.160 fits me. Token Okay, because they're gonna call me token, 131 00:06:33.560 --> 00:06:36.160 so I might as well just embrace the name and 132 00:06:36.199 --> 00:06:39.639 then add the hint of USA at the end because 133 00:06:39.680 --> 00:06:41.199 I'm an avid patriot. 134 00:06:41.279 --> 00:06:45.360 So it just fit perfectly token black guy USA, right. 135 00:06:45.399 --> 00:06:47.160 And the other strange thing is that, you know, when 136 00:06:47.160 --> 00:06:49.959 I think of a token black guy, you know, and 137 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:52.079 I'm just gonna be blunt with you here, man. You know, 138 00:06:52.199 --> 00:06:55.199 tell me if I offend, I'm still gonna speak the 139 00:06:55.240 --> 00:06:57.319 same way. I'll tell you that right now, because first 140 00:06:57.360 --> 00:06:59.199 of all, on the left or the right, I'm just 141 00:06:59.240 --> 00:07:03.680 gonna go h So, you know, I I equally bash 142 00:07:03.839 --> 00:07:06.160 both lap wingers and right wingers on this show, which 143 00:07:06.199 --> 00:07:08.439 makes it hard for me to bring certain guests on 144 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:12.079 and UHU, because I find that we've gotten into a 145 00:07:12.079 --> 00:07:14.560 position where I don't believe we should be. And I 146 00:07:14.600 --> 00:07:16.879 hear your enthusiasm for the American dream. 147 00:07:16.879 --> 00:07:17.680 I wish I had it. 148 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:20.040 To be honest with you, now, most people would call 149 00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:25.079 me white, and I know that's not correct. First of all, 150 00:07:25.720 --> 00:07:27.839 because even according to the people that want to, uh 151 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:30.519 you know, instill the ideas of white purity and so 152 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:33.759 on and so forth, I'm disqualified because first I'm Sicilian. 153 00:07:34.160 --> 00:07:35.720 So that's the end of that. 154 00:07:36.439 --> 00:07:39.600 Okay, you know anything about world history, you know that 155 00:07:39.680 --> 00:07:42.040 Sicilians are are are not entirely white. 156 00:07:42.519 --> 00:07:43.439 Uh it cannot be. 157 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:46.839 Uh So, uh yeah, I don't pass the purity test, 158 00:07:46.879 --> 00:07:49.759 and I really don't give a damn. The other thing 159 00:07:49.920 --> 00:07:52.519 is that when when I hear token black guy, I'm 160 00:07:52.519 --> 00:07:55.720 thinking to myself, that's usually the guy that's introduced there, 161 00:07:55.879 --> 00:07:58.839 just so you have a black presence. And I saw 162 00:07:58.879 --> 00:08:03.199 this among general's. After mind, I'm a generation excerp so 163 00:08:03.240 --> 00:08:05.600 I'm older than you if you just finished college probably, 164 00:08:06.279 --> 00:08:08.600 although you could have just finished college at my age too. 165 00:08:08.639 --> 00:08:11.839 I mean, things are different nowadays, but either way, I 166 00:08:11.839 --> 00:08:13.720 think i'm older than you based on what I've read 167 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:17.439 a little bit about you. And it's a different generation 168 00:08:17.600 --> 00:08:21.720 now when it comes to racial identity. Strange thing is 169 00:08:21.879 --> 00:08:26.360 it's more extreme, it's more polite, and yet it's more 170 00:08:26.399 --> 00:08:29.199 extreme than it was when I grew up. So a 171 00:08:29.240 --> 00:08:31.680 token black guy, though, would be somebody that you just 172 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:33.600 brought in there just so you could have black skin 173 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:36.399 in the game. It was like, you know, well, we 174 00:08:36.519 --> 00:08:38.559 have to have, you know, our affirmative action guy here, 175 00:08:38.600 --> 00:08:41.919 he's the token black guy. I would almost find that 176 00:08:42.360 --> 00:08:45.039 ridiculous and insulting if you don't want to embrace that 177 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:48.960 as a primary function of your identity. And also, by 178 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:50.960 the way, just quick commentary before I let it get 179 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:54.080 out of my head. You don't sound like you came 180 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:56.360 from anywhere else. You very much sound like you were 181 00:08:56.360 --> 00:09:01.279 born here and a natural English speak all the way around. 182 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:04.519 Your accents, you know, not like mine. 183 00:09:04.559 --> 00:09:06.440 You can clearly tell, you know, even though I live 184 00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:11.200 in Georgia, I'm from the Northeast, but your accent is mixed, 185 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:17.440 but it's clearly American, and that's what I hear. And again, 186 00:09:17.480 --> 00:09:19.879 I mean, I'm gonna nail this racial thing in the 187 00:09:19.879 --> 00:09:21.480 next few minutes, and then we're going to get into 188 00:09:21.480 --> 00:09:25.080 some real topics because quite honestly, I wish it didn't 189 00:09:25.080 --> 00:09:28.080 count to anybody, it's really stupid. And I'm not saying 190 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:30.120 that to be an apologist or to cover up for 191 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:33.399 my white guilt or any It's just that it seems 192 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:35.879 to me to be a massive waste of time when 193 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:37.759 we have so many other things. 194 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:39.759 That we need to address collectively. 195 00:09:40.480 --> 00:09:43.519 And you know, look, nationally, I think we're we're on 196 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:46.080 a downhill slope and we've been there a while. And 197 00:09:46.120 --> 00:09:47.799 by the way, I don't just blame Biden for that, 198 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:52.120 but you know, anyway, look, I threw a bunch of 199 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:56.320 things at you, But what about the seemingly almost insulting 200 00:09:56.440 --> 00:09:59.320 nature of the idea of the token black guy that 201 00:09:59.360 --> 00:10:01.759 you're in brace saying as sort of a way to 202 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:03.279 get a conversation started. 203 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:05.320 I mean, are you purposely trying. 204 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:07.639 To evoke a little bit of that sort of well, 205 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:10.679 you know, sentimentality that could cut both ways on that? 206 00:10:10.840 --> 00:10:12.159 Is that really what the point of it is? 207 00:10:12.200 --> 00:10:12.360 Then? 208 00:10:12.840 --> 00:10:15.320 Yeah, the point of it is really to kind of 209 00:10:15.360 --> 00:10:19.159 have both people kind of shocked every time they hear it. 210 00:10:19.480 --> 00:10:22.399 And it is a shock factor for sure, because then 211 00:10:22.399 --> 00:10:24.879 they're like, hmm, interesting because. 212 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:28.000 Most of them know what exactly that means. So once 213 00:10:28.039 --> 00:10:31.360 they kind of it's like a breaking the ice type thing. 214 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:33.759 They come up to me and they're like why and 215 00:10:33.879 --> 00:10:36.000 because they want to know, and then I have to 216 00:10:36.080 --> 00:10:39.120 just explain exactly what I just explained to you, and 217 00:10:39.159 --> 00:10:40.320 then they kind of let. 218 00:10:40.159 --> 00:10:43.039 Their guard down, or they're more open. 219 00:10:42.919 --> 00:10:45.600 To having a conversation with me because they see that 220 00:10:45.639 --> 00:10:47.679 I have a sense of humor, and they're more likely 221 00:10:47.960 --> 00:10:51.120 to approach someone who is more laid back than someone 222 00:10:51.159 --> 00:10:53.720 who's like, oh, I hate all liberals or I hate 223 00:10:53.720 --> 00:10:58.039 all conservatives or whatsoever. So I don't find it offensive 224 00:10:58.080 --> 00:11:00.919 at all. I just find it hilarious that I actually 225 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:01.879 most time. 226 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:05.759 Always end up being the only black person in a room. 227 00:11:06.120 --> 00:11:07.840 But does that bother me? 228 00:11:08.159 --> 00:11:12.240 Absolutely not, because if black people wanted to be in 229 00:11:12.279 --> 00:11:15.080 those rooms, they would make a way to get there. 230 00:11:15.399 --> 00:11:17.320 And for me, it's just like, Okay, I walk in 231 00:11:17.320 --> 00:11:19.039 a room and I see a bunch of Americans. 232 00:11:19.200 --> 00:11:21.519 That's all I see. I see a bunch of Americans. 233 00:11:21.519 --> 00:11:26.200 I'm never going to gravitate towards black group just because oh, 234 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:28.320 they share the same skin color as myself. 235 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:31.080 Never, that's not what you do. When you enter a room. 236 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:34.200 You enter a room, you look for familiar faces of people, 237 00:11:34.279 --> 00:11:38.480 you know, or family members or a smiling face. You 238 00:11:38.480 --> 00:11:41.840 don't just gravitate towards that. And that's the problem. That's 239 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:44.600 the problem with a lot of the black culture, and 240 00:11:45.039 --> 00:11:48.480 they just assume just because you look a specific way, 241 00:11:48.600 --> 00:11:51.799 you have to gravitate towards them. And that's kind of 242 00:11:51.840 --> 00:11:55.799 what barrier I'm trying to break with that one token 243 00:11:55.840 --> 00:11:57.000 black guy user. 244 00:11:56.879 --> 00:12:00.320 Name Okay, cool, look, and I do understand that. And again, 245 00:12:00.360 --> 00:12:01.879 I don't want to spend the whole time with you 246 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:05.799 on the politics of race and identity. Oh well, you know, 247 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:07.759 might as well hit it upfront since you put it 248 00:12:07.840 --> 00:12:12.720 up front, right, So here's the thing. I would say 249 00:12:12.960 --> 00:12:17.240 that it is sensible though to understand that not everybody 250 00:12:17.399 --> 00:12:19.600 like like I've said on this show and gotten flat 251 00:12:19.639 --> 00:12:19.960 for it. 252 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:20.559 You know. 253 00:12:21.120 --> 00:12:22.919 Really, the funny thing to me is that black people 254 00:12:22.919 --> 00:12:26.559 and white people don't actually exist. And you know, people go, 255 00:12:26.600 --> 00:12:27.960 what do you mean by that? And I say, well, 256 00:12:27.960 --> 00:12:29.399 you know, even the people that are supposed to have 257 00:12:29.480 --> 00:12:32.519 white skin, they're not actually white. I mean I've even 258 00:12:32.559 --> 00:12:36.679 known plenty about buyo people of all ethnicities, and quite frankly, 259 00:12:36.720 --> 00:12:40.399 as pale as they are, they're not actually white. First 260 00:12:40.440 --> 00:12:44.200 of all, and secondly, you know people that are black, 261 00:12:44.200 --> 00:12:48.279 and I've known some dark people, you know, and they 262 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:50.840 come close to purple in color when they get dark enough. 263 00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:53.919 The fact is I've never seen I mean, I've seen 264 00:12:53.960 --> 00:12:58.559 black hair, but I've never actually seen black skin, absolutely 265 00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:03.039 black skin close. So really, this idea of black and 266 00:13:03.080 --> 00:13:06.240 white is all is a misnomer to begin with. And 267 00:13:06.360 --> 00:13:08.320 I have bad eyesight, I know, but but I think 268 00:13:08.360 --> 00:13:11.039 I can see this clearly. We're all just different shades 269 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:14.720 of brown, honestly. I mean even people that would say, well, no, 270 00:13:14.799 --> 00:13:17.159 there's yellow and red and yeah, but when you look 271 00:13:17.200 --> 00:13:19.480 at it, we're all just these odd, sort of weird 272 00:13:19.519 --> 00:13:23.759 mixed shapes of brown anyway, one way or another. Even 273 00:13:23.799 --> 00:13:25.840 even the whitest of white people. And yes, some people 274 00:13:25.879 --> 00:13:30.720 are ghostly white. I know, there's still not actually white. 275 00:13:30.919 --> 00:13:33.399 So you know, like I always, I always find that 276 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:36.240 weird to begin with, just from a like, how do 277 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:39.679 you label anybody anyway? Now I get there's African, and 278 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:42.000 there's a and you were born in Africa, so you 279 00:13:42.039 --> 00:13:47.080 could literally say I'm an African American, and and you 280 00:13:47.639 --> 00:13:51.159 don't want to go with that because you figure that 281 00:13:51.240 --> 00:13:53.679 it's American. And maybe I came from Africa, but so 282 00:13:53.799 --> 00:13:57.919 did everybody else come from somewhere else. So whatever. And 283 00:13:58.200 --> 00:14:01.879 I don't even really love the American label anymore because 284 00:14:02.559 --> 00:14:04.960 we're so much at each other's throats. I don't see 285 00:14:04.960 --> 00:14:08.840 it as a good accurate label. Now that's a weird 286 00:14:08.879 --> 00:14:11.600 position for me to be in, yeh. But here's the thing. 287 00:14:12.399 --> 00:14:15.000 I think it's also valid for some people that and 288 00:14:15.320 --> 00:14:16.559 I want you to address all. 289 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:17.720 Of this, by the way, I'm not just trying to 290 00:14:17.799 --> 00:14:18.440 run my mouth. 291 00:14:19.559 --> 00:14:22.919 I think it's also valid to recognize that not everybody 292 00:14:23.000 --> 00:14:26.720 thinks like you and me, and that there are different 293 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:29.840 ways that people are treated, whether it's spoken out loud 294 00:14:29.960 --> 00:14:32.320 or somebody says it straight up or you know, I 295 00:14:32.399 --> 00:14:36.480 always love the listen, I'm not actually racist. I know 296 00:14:36.519 --> 00:14:39.960 there's going to be a butt and then there's gonna 297 00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:44.240 be something where they're just going look. I definitely in 298 00:14:44.279 --> 00:14:48.320 the American psyche there is a racial ism which is 299 00:14:48.799 --> 00:14:54.240 not necessarily racist all the time, but racialist where even 300 00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:57.440 on the positive side, right, somebody might say, if they're 301 00:14:57.559 --> 00:15:00.679 very racialist, okay, again, your skin dark and most people 302 00:15:00.720 --> 00:15:04.200 would call you black. Fine, they might think, you know what, 303 00:15:04.279 --> 00:15:08.759 this guy is probably athletically better than average white guy 304 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:13.279 just because well your heritage. Yeah, you know, some people 305 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:17.559 might say, uh, okay, I'll pick on myself for a minute. 306 00:15:17.799 --> 00:15:20.960 Uh so so so I'm Sicilian and Irish, right, so 307 00:15:21.200 --> 00:15:23.919 maybe some people will think I might have a propensity 308 00:15:23.960 --> 00:15:26.279 to be a drunk. Some people might think I have 309 00:15:26.320 --> 00:15:31.320 a propensity to be affiliated to Italian businessmen, you know, 310 00:15:31.480 --> 00:15:32.200 is something like this. 311 00:15:32.960 --> 00:15:36.159 They might not be wrong. Uh but and I'm not 312 00:15:36.200 --> 00:15:37.440 a drunk anyway. 313 00:15:38.399 --> 00:15:42.519 The thing is, there's a lot of ways to go here, 314 00:15:42.600 --> 00:15:45.519 positive and negative. But people start to make these sort 315 00:15:45.519 --> 00:15:50.600 of stereotypical decisions, and the truth is that we are 316 00:15:50.759 --> 00:15:54.360 we are diverse, and yes, indeed our heritages do lend 317 00:15:54.399 --> 00:15:57.000 themselves to certain things. I mean, I'm not going to 318 00:15:57.080 --> 00:15:58.919 tell you that I would worry about you as much 319 00:15:58.960 --> 00:16:03.559 getting a sunburn as me. Quite frankly, although you can 320 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:05.759 get a sunburn. Anybody who's you know, white and doesn't 321 00:16:05.799 --> 00:16:07.799 believe black people get sunburns, that they're wrong. 322 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:08.960 And here I am. 323 00:16:08.960 --> 00:16:10.600 Using those terms again when I don't even want to 324 00:16:10.679 --> 00:16:14.559 use them. So one would say even that, are you 325 00:16:14.759 --> 00:16:17.840 just not willing to recognize and this is an honest question, 326 00:16:18.279 --> 00:16:21.480 not willing to recognize that in many cases, let's just say, 327 00:16:21.519 --> 00:16:24.360 in dealing with the police, and I've seen this straightforward 328 00:16:24.720 --> 00:16:27.799 many different times. Of course, police are unkind to poor 329 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:31.639 people in general, but even among poor people, I don't know, 330 00:16:31.759 --> 00:16:33.960 they seem to be a little less hostile to people 331 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:36.320 of my skin tone than they do of your skin tone. 332 00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:38.519 And I've seen that for myself. It's not the news, 333 00:16:39.679 --> 00:16:42.960 it's not you know. And indeed that may be on 334 00:16:43.000 --> 00:16:46.279 a situation by situation basis, but you've got to acknowledge 335 00:16:46.759 --> 00:16:49.039 that there are people out there that, whether they say 336 00:16:49.039 --> 00:16:51.080 it out loud or no matter what it is, they 337 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:54.000 try and virtue signal. Truth is, they're going to look 338 00:16:54.039 --> 00:16:56.480 at you and say you and I are getting arrested. 339 00:16:56.519 --> 00:16:59.440 First of all, you're a younger black guy. I'm an 340 00:16:59.440 --> 00:17:03.039 older white So suddenly, although it never happens to me 341 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:06.119 because I don't know why, but they might give a 342 00:17:06.160 --> 00:17:10.039 gradi sort of response to us where I'm less dangerous 343 00:17:10.079 --> 00:17:13.359 than you, Maybe I don't need to be as handled 344 00:17:13.359 --> 00:17:16.599 as harshly as you, and maybe indeed you're more of 345 00:17:16.680 --> 00:17:19.359 a criminal than me. In many places in the US, 346 00:17:19.440 --> 00:17:23.519 not just the South, that does happen, so you got 347 00:17:23.559 --> 00:17:27.000 to acknowledge that maybe not everybody is, you know, working 348 00:17:27.039 --> 00:17:30.720 on being colorblind or even getting anywhere near it in 349 00:17:30.839 --> 00:17:34.759 truth in their internal being. So wouldn't you say that 350 00:17:34.799 --> 00:17:38.359 there might be some complaints that could be had by 351 00:17:38.400 --> 00:17:40.640 you that could not be had by me in America? 352 00:17:41.799 --> 00:17:43.759 I mean by me and you. 353 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:48.519 Okay, yes, on an individual's basis, for sure, a lot 354 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:51.759 of people could they have been ruffed up by the 355 00:17:51.799 --> 00:17:54.799 police here and there. However, to me, it's more so 356 00:17:55.240 --> 00:17:59.319 how you behave in a situation like that. You see 357 00:17:59.359 --> 00:18:02.599 a policee officer and you don't respect a police officer, 358 00:18:03.079 --> 00:18:05.640 and so how are you going to react to that 359 00:18:05.680 --> 00:18:09.000 police officer or the police officer approaches you. If your 360 00:18:09.039 --> 00:18:12.440 first assumption is that he came up to you because 361 00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:16.519 of your skin color, then you might be kind of 362 00:18:16.640 --> 00:18:20.160 right on that notion. But how you react to his 363 00:18:20.279 --> 00:18:23.279 approach will also in fact kind of. 364 00:18:24.799 --> 00:18:26.279 Cause how he treats you. 365 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:29.680 And that's kind of something I try to explain to 366 00:18:29.720 --> 00:18:32.720 a lot of my black friends that I have, the 367 00:18:32.839 --> 00:18:34.720 very few that I have. I'm like, if I see 368 00:18:34.759 --> 00:18:37.240 a police officer, I already know I respect them enough 369 00:18:37.240 --> 00:18:40.279 and their job is hard enough because I would never 370 00:18:40.359 --> 00:18:41.319 want to be put in a. 371 00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:42.880 Position where I have to. 372 00:18:44.359 --> 00:18:47.559 Basically make sure the law is kept in that matter, 373 00:18:47.680 --> 00:18:52.359 because everything you do is under a microscope, and then 374 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:55.519 if you do something just an inch off, you will 375 00:18:55.559 --> 00:18:59.160 be criticized for So their job is already hard enough. 376 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:01.359 So I'm going to treat them to the best of 377 00:19:01.400 --> 00:19:04.519 my ability, regardless of whether or not I'm wrong or not, 378 00:19:04.880 --> 00:19:08.759 because there's a reason that they pulled me over or 379 00:19:08.799 --> 00:19:11.839 they're approaching me. So I'm gonna treat them the best 380 00:19:11.880 --> 00:19:13.559 ways I can possible. 381 00:19:13.839 --> 00:19:17.759 But to your notion, yes, am I more afraid? 382 00:19:17.960 --> 00:19:20.599 Am I more afraid when a police officer approaches me? 383 00:19:20.799 --> 00:19:24.200 No? No, it matters not to me whatsoever. 384 00:19:24.279 --> 00:19:27.920 Am I intimidated because it's a police officer, Yes. 385 00:19:27.960 --> 00:19:33.519 Because he maybe who knows, who knows? Maybe I did 386 00:19:33.559 --> 00:19:35.680 something wrong? Or is it my skin color? 387 00:19:35.799 --> 00:19:39.359 But that's not ever going to be my first jump too, 388 00:19:40.119 --> 00:19:43.119 is my skin color? I'm going to ask the right questions, 389 00:19:43.359 --> 00:19:46.240 and if that police officer is indeed, let's say racist, 390 00:19:46.920 --> 00:19:49.319 then it's not on me, it's on. 391 00:19:49.400 --> 00:19:55.720 Him so or her. So ultimately, yeah, it happens to people, 392 00:19:55.960 --> 00:19:59.359 but I it doesn't. 393 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:02.720 It's never happened to me. So I guess on a 394 00:20:02.880 --> 00:20:07.000 basis that's a loaded one. That's a loaded one. 395 00:20:08.480 --> 00:20:11.279 You can see that other people's experiences may vary, but 396 00:20:11.400 --> 00:20:14.119 you actually have experienced it yourself. 397 00:20:14.599 --> 00:20:17.680 Yeah, I mean, you know, but. 398 00:20:17.599 --> 00:20:19.480 I don't think would happened to me because of the 399 00:20:19.480 --> 00:20:22.640 way in which I conduct myself, because I would never 400 00:20:22.880 --> 00:20:26.759 disrespect a police officer because the majority some black people, 401 00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:30.559 they already have that instilled into them, where oh, they're 402 00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:34.000 gunning for me. So if you have their their gunning 403 00:20:34.039 --> 00:20:37.200 for me kind of mentality, you are going to do 404 00:20:37.279 --> 00:20:40.640 something that will set it off somehow, and. 405 00:20:40.599 --> 00:20:43.359 I don't know why. And it's a cultural thing. 406 00:20:43.680 --> 00:20:46.839 It really is a cultural thing because they've been trained 407 00:20:47.000 --> 00:20:49.519 to think that the police are out to get them, 408 00:20:49.839 --> 00:20:53.359 which in fact is not true. What do you They're 409 00:20:53.400 --> 00:20:56.839 doing their jobs and if they stop you or tell 410 00:20:56.920 --> 00:21:00.160 you okay, look I need to check something, and if 411 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:03.599 they're wrong, okay, call them out. But I know it's 412 00:21:03.640 --> 00:21:05.720 not as simple as I make it out to be. 413 00:21:06.079 --> 00:21:10.759 So ye see, Look, I would dispute the notion that 414 00:21:10.799 --> 00:21:15.400 you have there that they're just you know, always worthy 415 00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:17.640 of respect and always just they're doing their job, or 416 00:21:17.640 --> 00:21:20.599 that it's just a cultural thing that people have been 417 00:21:20.640 --> 00:21:23.000 taught to approach them as the enemy. Because I got 418 00:21:23.039 --> 00:21:26.359 to tell you, I'm getting a sense, and maybe I'm wrong, 419 00:21:26.440 --> 00:21:31.160 I'm getting a sense that as the child of let's 420 00:21:31.200 --> 00:21:35.039 just say, a military kid, which you said you were, 421 00:21:36.200 --> 00:21:39.240 probably I don't know if you ever grew up in 422 00:21:39.359 --> 00:21:44.039 really bad neighborhoods at all. If you didn't, you might 423 00:21:44.160 --> 00:21:46.319 have a different attitude towards the police, no matter what 424 00:21:46.359 --> 00:21:50.240 color you are, because quite honestly, they don't come into 425 00:21:50.279 --> 00:21:53.720 the nice neighborhoods with the same attitude that they do 426 00:21:54.480 --> 00:21:58.599 in places where I've lived, and you get a mentality 427 00:21:58.599 --> 00:22:00.400 that has nothing to do with what your parents teach you. 428 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:03.799 Because I watched and listened and heard all of the 429 00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:06.759 parents in the bad neighborhoods I knew trying to tell 430 00:22:06.839 --> 00:22:09.559 us all, you know, look respect to what the cops 431 00:22:09.559 --> 00:22:12.119 say this, and that they're there just doing a job. 432 00:22:12.519 --> 00:22:16.240 And we independently, as kids, uh, some of us rightfully 433 00:22:16.279 --> 00:22:19.559 so developed the idea that when they show up, they. 434 00:22:19.359 --> 00:22:20.039 Are the enemy. 435 00:22:20.559 --> 00:22:23.880 And it is not simply based on a cultural teaching, 436 00:22:24.319 --> 00:22:26.799 it's based on their actions. Now, they come into hostile 437 00:22:26.839 --> 00:22:31.000 situations with hostility, and I think that's part of what 438 00:22:31.039 --> 00:22:34.200 goes on. And again I'm the I'm the pale skinned one. 439 00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:36.960 They're in the equation, not the only one, because I 440 00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:38.400 grew up in very mixed areas. 441 00:22:39.160 --> 00:22:39.480 Uh. 442 00:22:39.559 --> 00:22:42.400 But but I did always see that there was a difference. 443 00:22:42.720 --> 00:22:45.000 And of course if I wandered into the wrong neighborhood 444 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:47.720 and my friend, I got to tell you, and I 445 00:22:47.839 --> 00:22:49.160 stuck out like a sore thumb. 446 00:22:49.880 --> 00:22:50.079 Uh. 447 00:22:50.240 --> 00:22:53.400 You know, those police officers were harsh to me, but 448 00:22:53.559 --> 00:22:55.559 they could deal with, you know, the residents of their 449 00:22:55.599 --> 00:22:59.839 neighborhood who they clearly knew belong there differently. You know, 450 00:22:59.880 --> 00:23:01.640 I used to get thrown across the hoods of cars 451 00:23:01.640 --> 00:23:04.240 and have my pockets empty and everything else for walking 452 00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:05.160 down the wrong street. 453 00:23:06.559 --> 00:23:06.799 You know. 454 00:23:07.240 --> 00:23:08.960 It just I didn't look right. 455 00:23:09.599 --> 00:23:10.000 Uh. 456 00:23:10.200 --> 00:23:12.759 And and again not a black guy, not even close 457 00:23:12.799 --> 00:23:14.079 to be and identified as one. 458 00:23:14.279 --> 00:23:16.160 Clearly they would call me white and all that. 459 00:23:16.480 --> 00:23:18.759 And these were white officers, so it wasn't a racial 460 00:23:18.759 --> 00:23:21.799 thing between us quite frankly, I'll tell you this. 461 00:23:22.039 --> 00:23:24.680 Uh Again, here I go being racialists, but I got 462 00:23:24.720 --> 00:23:25.119 to do it. 463 00:23:25.759 --> 00:23:30.640 Frankly, Black officers were always kinder, gentler, and nicer to me, 464 00:23:31.160 --> 00:23:33.119 even when I was doing things wrong because I was 465 00:23:33.160 --> 00:23:37.119 a juvenile delinquent. They were always better people to me 466 00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:39.960 than the white guys who wanted to step on me. 467 00:23:40.480 --> 00:23:42.480 So I don't I don't know what to say about 468 00:23:42.480 --> 00:23:45.759 it except that your your experiences could vary because of 469 00:23:45.799 --> 00:23:48.400 your financial status, your zip code. 470 00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:51.200 There's a lot of factors that could go into this. 471 00:23:51.279 --> 00:23:54.920 So but then again, look, I asked you about your 472 00:23:54.960 --> 00:23:58.359 experiences and you gave it to me, So all right, 473 00:23:58.519 --> 00:24:00.880 that's great, And again I want step away from the 474 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:03.000 racial stuff unless you want to add to anything I 475 00:24:03.079 --> 00:24:05.440 just said and get into some other questions if you 476 00:24:05.440 --> 00:24:06.640 don't mind, Oh no. 477 00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:10.079 Yeah, let me add like one final bit. But for sure, 478 00:24:10.279 --> 00:24:12.240 the zip code probably does matter. 479 00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:14.640 And I'm not going to sit here and deny that 480 00:24:14.759 --> 00:24:18.079 there are some police officers that are in fact have 481 00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:21.960 a very harsh bias. However, at the end of the day, 482 00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:25.759 painting all police officers, which I think the BLM movement 483 00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:29.200 has kind of done and went forward because that's what 484 00:24:29.279 --> 00:24:32.519 BLM does. They have painted all of them as the enemy, 485 00:24:32.839 --> 00:24:35.640 and that's something we need to kind of rid ourselves 486 00:24:35.720 --> 00:24:38.799 of when in fact the police officers are not. When 487 00:24:38.839 --> 00:24:43.000 you do remove them from communities such as the black communities, 488 00:24:43.079 --> 00:24:48.680 let's say those crimes increase tremendously. Police officers no longer 489 00:24:48.799 --> 00:24:53.200 want to go into these neighborhoods because, yeah, it's too dangerous. 490 00:24:53.319 --> 00:24:58.039 Why because they're more likely to get killed in or 491 00:24:58.119 --> 00:25:01.559 shot or get in an alter case in those areas 492 00:25:01.640 --> 00:25:03.000 than any other area. 493 00:25:03.359 --> 00:25:08.519 So the lack of communal and cultural awareness that. 494 00:25:09.880 --> 00:25:13.680 The black community commits more crime than any other community. 495 00:25:14.119 --> 00:25:19.640 But ultimately they completely ignore that fact. They ignore that 496 00:25:19.680 --> 00:25:24.079 fact and blame it on police brutality whatsoever. 497 00:25:24.119 --> 00:25:24.839 But when in. 498 00:25:24.759 --> 00:25:28.000 Fact, I am more likely to get killed if I 499 00:25:28.079 --> 00:25:31.400 go into one of those areas by a black person, 500 00:25:32.039 --> 00:25:35.359 not the other way around, and I will pop. And 501 00:25:35.480 --> 00:25:41.000 that's an actual fact. So raising your kids to hate 502 00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:46.359 the police when you're worse and your most dangerous situation 503 00:25:46.519 --> 00:25:48.559 could be by the hands of someone who. 504 00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:52.880 Looks just like you, Well, I'll tell you what I think. 505 00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:55.039 Maybe maybe you and I will have a separate discussion 506 00:25:55.079 --> 00:25:58.480 at another time if you think that this interview is 507 00:25:58.480 --> 00:26:01.920 a value, because I really explore all of that which 508 00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:04.559 he just said. But again, I don't want to just 509 00:26:04.640 --> 00:26:07.839 stay on the it's just discussing race. I swear to God, 510 00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:12.160 I don't want to do it anymore much rather talk 511 00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:14.400 about what it is we can do to solve the 512 00:26:14.440 --> 00:26:18.039 things that actually affect us all, you know, and and 513 00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:20.839 what are the problems across the board? So I'm going 514 00:26:20.920 --> 00:26:23.720 to go to something that doesn't actually have color, because 515 00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:25.839 don't even tell me it's got green to it anymore, 516 00:26:25.960 --> 00:26:29.279 because who the hell carries cash? Well, let's talk about 517 00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:31.400 the financial issues that are in front of us, because 518 00:26:31.400 --> 00:26:33.200 you said you're a bit more of a conservative guy, 519 00:26:33.559 --> 00:26:37.279 and you clearly signaled that you know Biden is a disaster, 520 00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:38.759 which I can't. 521 00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:39.839 I can't argue with you. 522 00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:44.920 He's a disaster, but you know, to me's the continuation 523 00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:47.200 of the mess that has been made for a long time. 524 00:26:47.519 --> 00:26:49.680 And quite frankly, now I'm going to be ageist ready, 525 00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:52.759 you know, I think it's it's really time for the 526 00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:54.559 old men, all of them, to be moved out of 527 00:26:54.559 --> 00:26:57.559 the positions of power, because they're not connected to what's 528 00:26:57.599 --> 00:27:00.400 actually going on and it's not their future that are 529 00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:03.400 in jeopardy. So I'm tired of them all together. Anybody 530 00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:06.640 who's over a certain age. Sorry, And and by the way, 531 00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:09.759 I'm not offering up my Generation X as any sort 532 00:27:09.759 --> 00:27:13.400 of uh panacea here. 533 00:27:13.759 --> 00:27:14.759 We don't have the misers. 534 00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:19.440 Go ahead behavior, Is that what you're trying to do? 535 00:27:20.440 --> 00:27:23.240 No? No, I'm sorry you cut up there. I only heard. 536 00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:24.599 Is that what you're trying to do? Go ahead? 537 00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:24.880 Oh? 538 00:27:24.920 --> 00:27:26.240 Can you hear me? How about now? 539 00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:27.480 Yeah? I can hear you. Fine. 540 00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:30.000 Oh are you trying to be a savior to the 541 00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:33.359 Generator generation prior to yourself? 542 00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:33.839 Or what? 543 00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:34.480 Now? 544 00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:34.839 No? 545 00:27:34.839 --> 00:27:36.319 No, I don't want to be a savior. I want 546 00:27:36.359 --> 00:27:37.920 all of us out of the way. I think younger 547 00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:40.559 people are going to think outside of the box. Need 548 00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:43.680 to get in there and start making decisions because we're 549 00:27:43.720 --> 00:27:48.119 all suffering financially right now. This didn't happen overnight, and 550 00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:50.279 I don't see it getting any better. And I'm getting 551 00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:53.480 tired of the boom and bust reality of you know, 552 00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:57.079 greater corporate America, who, no matter what, seems to benefit 553 00:27:57.160 --> 00:27:59.119 while the rest of us scramble to try and figure 554 00:27:59.160 --> 00:27:59.480 it out. 555 00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:00.000 Now. 556 00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:02.200 Yeah, I know you said you're getting finished with college 557 00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:04.759 and you're getting ready to really get in full swing 558 00:28:04.839 --> 00:28:06.000 with your American dream. 559 00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:08.839 But most of the people I know are. 560 00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:11.359 Not in that position, are not close to that. If 561 00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:13.480 they're coming out of it, they're they're they're sitting there 562 00:28:13.519 --> 00:28:16.680 looking at massive debts, the inability to live on their own. 563 00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:20.079 As we well know, inflation is right now choking all 564 00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:23.079 of us, you know. And again this isn't across the 565 00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:26.119 board issue. So I wanted to transition into finance. But 566 00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:28.200 when it comes to you know, who should be in power, 567 00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:31.640 and people want to get diversity in there. Uh my 568 00:28:31.759 --> 00:28:34.240 claim is that diversity needs to start with the younger 569 00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:38.200 people whose futures are actually being determined now when it 570 00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:41.759 comes to finance and everything across the board. And I 571 00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:45.319 don't care if they're black, white, or uh they you know, 572 00:28:45.400 --> 00:28:48.680 their ancestors came from a Latin nation. It really doesn't matter. 573 00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:50.880 Let's get to the reality. 574 00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:53.519 Goodhead, this needs to be American. That's all we ask for, 575 00:28:54.279 --> 00:28:55.519 and they just need to be American. 576 00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:58.839 But to that point, yes, I just graduated college and 577 00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:01.519 from then on, I mean I understood it was going 578 00:29:01.559 --> 00:29:05.079 to be a rough world out there. Granted I had 579 00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:08.119 a lot of support from my family of course. And 580 00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:11.039 am I in debt, Yes, I am actually in debt, 581 00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:15.799 and I refuse to basically take the handout that the 582 00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:20.039 government wants to completely erase my financial debt from college, 583 00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:23.680 and I made that decision personally because I was under 584 00:29:23.680 --> 00:29:27.680 the influence that, Okay, that's what the old American dream 585 00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:30.880 is all about, the traditionalist American dream, going to college, 586 00:29:31.000 --> 00:29:33.960 getting your degree, then getting your master's. So I did 587 00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:37.599 that consciously, and I'm not about to have someone pay 588 00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:41.480 for that whatsoever. Or have you who went to college 589 00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:43.799 and may have finished it and have finished paying off 590 00:29:43.839 --> 00:29:46.279 your college debt, I'm not going to have you do that. 591 00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:48.880 It's because it's not fair. I made that decision. 592 00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:52.359 I alone should have the burden of paying that kind 593 00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:52.920 of debt off. 594 00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:56.480 But to that point, when it comes to, yeah, finances, 595 00:29:57.359 --> 00:30:00.240 it is a hard world out there, and especially as 596 00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:02.839 a college student who just graduated, Yeah, it. 597 00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:04.519 Was extremely hard to find a job. 598 00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:09.200 But opportunities arise and you just have to make the 599 00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:13.000 best out of it and understand that we live in 600 00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:17.839 a time where yeah, gases, man, it hurts to say 601 00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:20.599 eighty dollars just to fill up my gas tank and 602 00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:26.039 having to struggle to kind of meet ends. Some people 603 00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:33.119 who are not in very beneficial financially stable families are 604 00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:37.519 struggling far more. And the top pier, the politicians, were 605 00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:41.839 the ones making these decisions are trying to make them 606 00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:45.720 more dependent on them. That's why we've had these stimulus 607 00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:50.400 checks going like money is printed on the freaking trees. 608 00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:51.240 Who knows. 609 00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:56.880 But ultimately everyone is going to struggle. And I make 610 00:30:56.920 --> 00:30:59.599 this point all the time. We here in the US 611 00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:02.039 are going to be hit the last. We're going to 612 00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:03.960 be hit last because we're at the top of the 613 00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:07.599 food chain. Everybody else outside of the US are getting 614 00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:10.839 hit now, like the Ukraine odeal right now. 615 00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:14.200 Great wheat is produced. 616 00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:16.359 A lot of the wheat that they get in Africa 617 00:31:16.599 --> 00:31:20.440 is from Ukraine. That shortage has started hitting most of 618 00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:24.160 the African continents and anything that's below poverty will get 619 00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:27.039 hit first. And then who's going to be hit last. 620 00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:32.079 It's going to be the Americans. So it's a very 621 00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:34.400 hard world. But we also need to understand that we're 622 00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:37.559 at a position where we are at the top of 623 00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:41.440 the food chain, and if anything's going to happen, it's 624 00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:43.440 going to happen to the ones on the bottom. And 625 00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:48.720 that's what as you were talking about the elitist group 626 00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:52.680 that met in Switzerland, was it Switzerland? What was it again? 627 00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:55.240 Was it Switzerland? With the organization? 628 00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:58.720 Which one you want to talk about the World Economic 629 00:31:58.799 --> 00:32:00.400 Forum or well. 630 00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:04.720 On that one, that one their goal apparently to in 631 00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:08.640 twenty thirty was to reduce the population by fifty percent. 632 00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:11.240 Or what population are they talking about. 633 00:32:11.359 --> 00:32:14.400 They're talking about populations that are outside of the US 634 00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:17.599 who have who are going to be the first ones 635 00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:19.480 to hit, And that's. 636 00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:20.480 Kind of like their whole goal. 637 00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:24.680 I'm not really a crazy person, but he said it. 638 00:32:26.160 --> 00:32:30.200 What's his name, the advisor director, He said it right 639 00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:30.960 out of his mouth. 640 00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:33.279 That is what we're trying to accomplish. 641 00:32:33.480 --> 00:32:37.119 And unfortunately, we're getting hit in the US and we're 642 00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:40.519 feeling the struggle because we don't understand. We've never experienced 643 00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:43.799 something this bad, and we're about to really get hit, 644 00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:49.720 especially the entire little brats that my generation has created. 645 00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:51.640 We're going to struggle a bit more because we don't 646 00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:54.000 have the life skills. So it is time for us 647 00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:57.279 to kind of step into leadership positions in order for 648 00:32:57.359 --> 00:32:59.720 us to take hold of our future. 649 00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:04.079 Well, see, that's the thing is people at that certain age, 650 00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:07.000 they don't have the same life skills that I know 651 00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:08.119 my generation had. 652 00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:10.720 And by the way, we were blamed for not having the. 653 00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:15.480 Same life skills as the previous generation it hasn't gotten 654 00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:19.440 any better, I gotta tell you. And it's weird to 655 00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:23.720 watch an unrealistic situation unfault. But but what do you 656 00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:28.119 think about the general conditions? I mean, look, let's be honest. 657 00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:31.480 Me at a minimum wage job, okay, come out of 658 00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:33.000 high school, I was. 659 00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:37.400 Able to live. You can't do that today, not even. 660 00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:39.000 At the you know, people go, well minimum wage not 661 00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:41.319 actually minimum wage. Yeah, but you know what in the 662 00:33:41.359 --> 00:33:45.319 time that I was born to the time now, okay, 663 00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:47.799 you would need to pay me like twenty five dollars 664 00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:49.799 an hour to make minimum wage that I would have 665 00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:52.839 made in nineteen seventy two. Okay, I mean it's that 666 00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:56.960 far removed from this idea that you could just go 667 00:33:56.960 --> 00:33:59.319 ahead and work and you could work your way up. 668 00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:02.839 I mean, it's no longer the same thing. Corporate culture 669 00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:06.440 has changed. You don't have as many independent businesses as 670 00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:07.400 you once did. 671 00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:09.599 That were available readily in the community. 672 00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:13.079 Almost everything is dominated by the Walmart model. 673 00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:14.960 I mean, you're. 674 00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:20.440 Stepping into a situation again you didn't create. But how 675 00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:22.920 do I blame you even for not having those life skills? 676 00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:23.199 Right? 677 00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:26.599 How do I even blame And I've got kids, you know, Look, 678 00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:29.079 my kid's agent range. My daughter just turned twenty three, 679 00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:32.559 my oldest, and I've got one child that's going to 680 00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:36.000 turn eight shortly. I look at them and I say, 681 00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:37.599 I don't know what the hell you guys are supposed 682 00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:41.239 to even do, yea, because this is a very rough 683 00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:44.280 situation to come into. I could tell you that, look, 684 00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:46.039 if you work at it, you go to college. You know, 685 00:34:46.440 --> 00:34:48.920 if it was twenty years ago, I could say, do 686 00:34:48.920 --> 00:34:51.920 you go to college, It'll be okay. I can't even 687 00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:54.719 say that today, and you still sound, you know, very 688 00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:57.679 much enthusiastic with that old line of thinking. 689 00:34:57.679 --> 00:34:58.679 And I'm wondering why. 690 00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:03.480 Well, to me, it's because that whole line of thinking 691 00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:06.719 kind of helps me see the light at the end 692 00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:11.400 of the tunnel because right now, I've experienced famine. I've 693 00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:16.599 experienced not being able to eat before, and it's awful. 694 00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:19.440 But a lot of Americans who were born in the 695 00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:22.840 US have never experienced that, especially kids my age. So 696 00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:26.079 for me it's like, ooh, interesting, I have to kind 697 00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:29.519 of like fight my way in and I have life 698 00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:34.599 skills and life some wisdom that they don't, So for 699 00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:38.599 me it's kind of it helps because I've been there 700 00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:42.000 and I know what it's like not to have that 701 00:35:42.039 --> 00:35:45.320 American privilege. Because there is such a thing as American privilege, 702 00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:49.239 we just don't talk about it. So for the kids 703 00:35:49.360 --> 00:35:54.159 my age who have never experienced any other kind of struggle, 704 00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:56.039 this is going to be a tough time for them, 705 00:35:56.320 --> 00:35:59.199 especially when they don't even teach them how to balance 706 00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:02.519 a checkbook high school. They don't even teach them financial 707 00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:07.280 literacy and high school or college. So being having to 708 00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:11.039 kind of being pushed out there is probably the best 709 00:36:11.039 --> 00:36:12.400 thing we can do for them. 710 00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:14.480 You have to force them to swim. 711 00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:18.519 Are some going to drown, absolutely, but ultimately you have 712 00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:22.280 to learn to swim in very hard conditions. And that's 713 00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:25.400 the kind of position they're being put in. And I 714 00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:29.280 think we were getting a little bit too entitled, too 715 00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:33.199 entitled kids asking for things after they haven't worked, Kids 716 00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:35.719 who are refusing to even do. 717 00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:37.840 Trade kinds of jobs. 718 00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:40.760 We need those kinds of jobs, and they're refusing to 719 00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:44.119 do that because they want a degree in gender study 720 00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:48.039 and gender study. How are you going to survive with 721 00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:49.599 a degree in gender study? 722 00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:50.159 You're not. 723 00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:53.039 So we need to kind of go back to those 724 00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:56.800 traditionalist jobs that built America, that made America. 725 00:36:57.079 --> 00:36:59.639 They what it was, which were the blue. 726 00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:04.159 Collar kind to fields like a plumber, like there's a 727 00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:08.880 shortage of those like electricians, like all those that require 728 00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:12.719 you to have an actual skill. And that's the problem 729 00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:16.239 that the government has kind of like created and it 730 00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:18.679 it's basically told everybody you need to go to college 731 00:37:18.679 --> 00:37:21.000 in order for you to be successful, and kind of 732 00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:25.039 abandoned the blue collar system. And that's what happened during COVID. 733 00:37:25.239 --> 00:37:27.679 They're like, oh, small business owners, we don't need you. 734 00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:30.880 We're gonna let the big corporate companies take care of 735 00:37:31.039 --> 00:37:33.800 everything and you won't have to worry about it. What 736 00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:37.239 in fact, that's exactly what we need, is those small 737 00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:39.360 businesses and those blue collar workers. 738 00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:43.639 Well, right, and look, the corporatetocracy, though, is also done. 739 00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:47.199 It's a fair share of damage to this as well. 740 00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:52.039 Right where we have okay, let's just go with the mechanics, 741 00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:56.679 car mechanics. Okay, yeah, good solid trade used to be 742 00:37:56.719 --> 00:37:59.280 something that again you know, I grew up in poor neighborhoods. 743 00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:02.960 They would or just go to vocational school, you can 744 00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:06.599 go get this skill. But then you have these you know, 745 00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:10.400 corporate elements that have come together and created this you 746 00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:13.639 know thing that substitutes for a lot of mechanic services 747 00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:17.840 that are presented in packages. You get a cheap oil change, 748 00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:21.159 you get a cheap this cheat that took away a 749 00:38:21.159 --> 00:38:24.400 lot of the jobs it could have been there because 750 00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:27.000 now you got Jiffy Loube okay for instance. I mean, 751 00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:30.960 I'm calling them out, but there's many others. And they 752 00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:34.000 consumed that and then controlled the wage that could be 753 00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:36.719 paid to somebody. We even add some of those skills 754 00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:39.280 so you could be partially skilled, or even some of 755 00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:42.159 them would train you. You don't know anything about cars, fine, 756 00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:45.559 we'll show you. And you know, now you don't have 757 00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:47.719 to hang out your own shingle. And they turn around 758 00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:50.840 and pay you again a wage which is not even 759 00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:54.239 a proper wage, and they consume things. I mean, very 760 00:38:54.280 --> 00:38:56.320 much the same way of like, why is it we 761 00:38:56.360 --> 00:38:58.920 can't get food in our neighborhood, Well, go look to 762 00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:01.239 the walmart on the ones of town that is beating 763 00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:04.719 the hell out of anything that could be an independent market, 764 00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:08.079 and you might know why there's no diversity. 765 00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:08.159 In your food. 766 00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:11.440 Yeah, you know, and again you can't blame the people 767 00:39:11.519 --> 00:39:12.239 on the bottom of it. 768 00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:14.280 Going, Well, I got to go where the groceries are cheap. 769 00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:18.599 Yeah, you know, because that's all they're given. That's all 770 00:39:18.599 --> 00:39:19.079 they're given. 771 00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:22.679 And yeah, you have all these resources, all those choices. However, 772 00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:26.960 those choices are what are kind of hindering you at all? 773 00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:32.599 Purports. Why is healthy food so expensive? 774 00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:35.760 Why are we making that a very luxurious thing to 775 00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:38.760 be able to afford it? But it's also a lifestyle 776 00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:42.159 kind of choice where you can choose to eat healthy 777 00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:45.440 and kind of pay that extra in order for you 778 00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:49.679 to have a healthy lifestyle. But yeah, they're basically kicking 779 00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:53.079 all these small businesses out of the way, and that's 780 00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:55.280 kind of what we that's the opposite of what we 781 00:39:55.320 --> 00:39:57.920 need to be doing. We need less Walmarts. I couldn't 782 00:39:57.960 --> 00:40:05.039 care less if some small or home little story opened 783 00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:07.880 up in my hometown, I would support them over Walmart 784 00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:10.840 any day. And that's kind of those Those are the 785 00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:13.760 kinds of companies that Americans need to go back to 786 00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:19.800 support so our economy and our individual holistic society can 787 00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:22.639 kind of be saved because we can't rely on these 788 00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:27.199 monopolies to run our worlds or the government is going 789 00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:29.880 to do exactly what they have done thus far. 790 00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:33.440 See, here we go and that's why I'm glad I 791 00:40:33.480 --> 00:40:35.960 got into the financial discussion. And now with the last 792 00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:39.760 say quarter of our discussion tonight, I want to turn 793 00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:41.159 it over to you about what you think is the 794 00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:46.400 biggest concern at the moment, what you think people in 795 00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:50.639 general need to address pay attention to. You know, I'm 796 00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:53.800 tired of having these things dragged back out the Roe v. 797 00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:57.239 Wade thing. Yeah, I could have opposing viewpoints on that. 798 00:40:57.320 --> 00:41:00.480 I don't want to. I don't want to really evolve 799 00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:04.480 into that discussion right this second. But my point is 800 00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:07.239 that they're hauling out all these other things to keep 801 00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:12.159 us distracted, I feel, from what's really the problem here. 802 00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:16.719 And I'm curious about what you think needs to be 803 00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:19.039 addressed in the most immediate way. Where do we need 804 00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:21.639 to stop the bleeding? Because look, if you're out there 805 00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:24.800 trying to speak out about anything right now, you obviously 806 00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:27.239 believe that something ain't right. 807 00:41:27.840 --> 00:41:29.039 I mean, it's just that simple. 808 00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:33.559 So what is your main, absolute king of something ain't 809 00:41:33.639 --> 00:41:34.320 right at the moment. 810 00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:36.039 Well, my main thing. 811 00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:40.000 It's actually a multitude of things, and it's probably the 812 00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:42.760 main reason as to why I'm in North Carolina right 813 00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:46.280 now working to try to fight for the local elections. 814 00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:50.199 For these midterms, we have kind of strayed away from 815 00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:55.679 these elected officials who have a lot of control in 816 00:41:55.719 --> 00:41:58.400 our lives. And we saw it during COVID, and I 817 00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:00.480 think that's something we should be focused still a little 818 00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:03.079 bit more. We had a glimpse of it while COVID 819 00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:05.440 was happening, and while it was kind of like dwindling away. 820 00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:07.679 However, we're kind. 821 00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:11.039 Of swaying away from it and kind of fixated on 822 00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:15.199 the whole notion that it's all about the federal government, 823 00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:17.239 when in fact, a lot of it has to do 824 00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:20.480 with your local officials as well, or else your rights 825 00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:24.599 would not have been stripped so easily during these COVID times. 826 00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:27.000 And that is why I'm here at North Carolina because 827 00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:31.480 as a battle state, I think there's so much to 828 00:42:31.559 --> 00:42:34.800 be done from like look at Florida. Florida is taking 829 00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:38.039 it on a local level where they're taking control of 830 00:42:38.639 --> 00:42:41.039 and given the middle finger to the federal government. And 831 00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:44.280 that's kind of what the American people need more so 832 00:42:44.440 --> 00:42:47.920 and what they need to be focusing on. Because these midterms, 833 00:42:48.039 --> 00:42:51.280 I'm not going to dive into like the unfair. 834 00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:53.679 Presidential election. 835 00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:55.440 I'm not going to dive into that, because that is 836 00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:58.039 a completely different story and you will get banned for that. 837 00:42:58.519 --> 00:43:04.400 So well, yeah, there, Look, there's always that in North Carolina. 838 00:43:04.440 --> 00:43:08.239 By the way, I'm curious how the dynamics there are. 839 00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:10.880 You know, when you're inside. 840 00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:14.000 Of it, it does not look ash as most people 841 00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:17.079 would think it does looking at it from the outside. 842 00:43:17.199 --> 00:43:19.480 I lived in Kinston for a couple of years in 843 00:43:19.559 --> 00:43:24.880 North Carolina, and yeah, that's not a typical southern state 844 00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:29.079 that the politics are not typical at all. Also, people 845 00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:31.559 think Georgia is one way or the other. Gotta tell 846 00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:32.679 you something about Georgia. 847 00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:33.400 Georgia is. 848 00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:38.440 Controlled by one party here, no matter what noise they 849 00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:41.639 try and make in the media. And it's uh, it's 850 00:43:41.719 --> 00:43:43.880 not the Blue team, I gotta tell you now. I 851 00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:48.119 don't care except that they maintain their stranglehold. And uh 852 00:43:48.440 --> 00:43:53.719 that is never spoken of in the national media ever. Okay, 853 00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:57.280 and that's top to bottom. Now, North Carolina's weird because 854 00:43:57.320 --> 00:44:00.719 top to bottom I don't see a singular control where 855 00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:04.320 you have one party really controlling it. It's actually still 856 00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:08.519 I don't know, up for grabs from the local all 857 00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:11.079 the way to the you know, to the state level. 858 00:44:11.599 --> 00:44:14.000 In my opinion. Do you think I'm off on that 859 00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:14.360 or what? 860 00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:17.320 Oh no, you're not, Absolutely no you're not. And that's 861 00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:19.559 kind of and that's why I'm here because I understand. 862 00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:24.039 I like the balance of power within the state. Actually 863 00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:28.280 it kind of makes it great, but it also but 864 00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:33.119 with the radicalism that has kind of like arisen, is 865 00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:35.840 kind of the problem is the fact that they're going 866 00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:39.119 into these schools to try to indoctrinate the kids, and 867 00:44:39.760 --> 00:44:42.840 it kind of go into territories that they don't need 868 00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:45.679 to be going into. And I think you asked me 869 00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:48.199 what was the biggest problem, and I think the big 870 00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:51.480 problem is the education of our children, and that's what 871 00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:55.840 they're trying to draw our attentions away from because they're 872 00:44:55.920 --> 00:44:59.480 the future and they're already destroying the future and how 873 00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:00.599 else you do that? 874 00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:03.880 But how else do you destroy. 875 00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:09.719 A majority's little future when you can easily control the 876 00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:12.800 way in which they think as they get older and older. 877 00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:18.079 So I think North Carolina is one of these states 878 00:45:18.119 --> 00:45:22.039 that probably is well out, but it could be so 879 00:45:22.199 --> 00:45:25.199 much better if we got control of it. And I'm 880 00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:27.000 not saying the Republicans are going to do a better 881 00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:30.239 job more than the left. 882 00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:33.000 They are but we also. 883 00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:36.079 Need to understand that that could also change to a 884 00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:40.719 completely different route. What if they get control, what if 885 00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:43.519 we get control as a red state here in North Carolina? 886 00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:47.880 Are they also going to try to infringe on people's rights? 887 00:45:48.039 --> 00:45:52.119 Are they also going to go the complete opposite that 888 00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:54.960 the left was doing? So we kind of have to 889 00:45:55.119 --> 00:45:58.880 keep that balance of power when it comes to talking 890 00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:01.559 about the red wave, which I completely want a red 891 00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:02.760 wave to happen, but I. 892 00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:05.840 Want it to happen in a very conscious manner. 893 00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:10.880 Right, Okay, So I'm getting to gist here that you know, Look, 894 00:46:11.039 --> 00:46:13.800 you want things to be on one side of the equation, 895 00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:17.039 but you don't entirely dismiss. 896 00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:21.480 The opposition because opposition is important. See, that's a unique thing. 897 00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:24.800 I want you to know something that's extremely unique because 898 00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:27.760 most times people that are on that side of the 899 00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:30.599 equation that I'm talking to lately, and by the way, 900 00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:34.119 I can't find anybody that's coherently on the blue side. Okay, 901 00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:36.760 so I have to speak about the people that are 902 00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:40.079 coherently on the red side. They are coherent, but most 903 00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:42.360 of them it almost sounds like I want to trade 904 00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:46.440 that authoritarian vision for my authoritarian vision. And I go, 905 00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:50.760 wait a minute, the opposition, the resistance to that must 906 00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:53.760 be understood and recognized because you know what, if you're 907 00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:56.119 going to look to govern all the people, and you 908 00:46:56.239 --> 00:46:58.480 better keep in mind that not all of them are 909 00:46:58.519 --> 00:47:02.679 going to agree all the time. No, And I think 910 00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:04.719 that is the thing that is missed by a lot 911 00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:07.639 of people because again, at the top of the power structure, 912 00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:10.840 the way this nation was imagined, excuse me for being constitutionalists, 913 00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:15.920 per second, the way this nation was imagined, the people 914 00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:18.239 are actually at the top of the power structure. See, 915 00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:20.599 a lot of people think the federal government has supremacy. 916 00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:23.440 That's exactly the opposite of the reality. 917 00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:27.199 And that's what they're, yes, you're good away from and 918 00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:30.440 think that they're the ones that have the power. And 919 00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:34.960 that's probably the biggest, biggest faux pap that a lot 920 00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:38.920 of Americans have tended to kind of think it's true. 921 00:47:41.039 --> 00:47:41.280 Right. 922 00:47:41.719 --> 00:47:44.320 No, but I'm hearing that in you where you're saying, listen, 923 00:47:44.360 --> 00:47:46.719 I think that my vision is right, but I've also 924 00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:50.800 got to consider that it's not the only answer. Is 925 00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:54.039 an intellectually honest position to take. It doesn't matter what 926 00:47:54.079 --> 00:47:56.760 your politics are, man, you got to understand that no 927 00:47:56.800 --> 00:47:58.880 matter who you are, no matter how intelligent you are, 928 00:47:58.920 --> 00:48:02.119 no matter how educated been, you don't have everything. 929 00:48:02.519 --> 00:48:06.239 Yeah, it's just that simple. Okay, now it's not. 930 00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:06.760 It's not. 931 00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:09.719 It's kind of like, okay, let me add like a 932 00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:14.159 bill that's being proposed in Florida right now. Florida very red, 933 00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:16.519 and we love that. I love Florida. That's where I 934 00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:19.920 want to end up. However, and someone made and rose 935 00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:22.800 that question today and they're like, and the bill is 936 00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:29.440 to ban make it a felony for parents, for parents 937 00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:32.960 taking their kids to a drag show. And I'm completely 938 00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:35.320 against taking a kid to a freaking dragt show. I 939 00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:39.239 don't care however, whatever it is. However, there's also all 940 00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:40.880 drag shows are not created equal. 941 00:48:41.400 --> 00:48:42.119 Think about that. 942 00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:47.119 And there's adults who are very hesitant to go into 943 00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:47.639 drag shows. 944 00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:49.760 I would never go to one myself because that's not 945 00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:53.360 my thing, but kids don't belong in there. But that 946 00:48:53.400 --> 00:48:56.440 doesn't mean the government needs to step in and be like, look, 947 00:48:56.559 --> 00:49:00.199 it's a felony. In order for you to yeah, iree, 948 00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:03.599 you should hold parents accountable for exposing their kids to 949 00:49:04.119 --> 00:49:06.960 things like that. But that's kind of like the extreme 950 00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:09.000 way that we are taking on the right. 951 00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:10.119 We can't do that. 952 00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:14.440 We have to we preach small government, Yes, we preach 953 00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:17.559 small government, but we also have to understand that with 954 00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:21.199 that small government, we have to give the other side 955 00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:22.599 an equal voice. 956 00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:25.800 Well not only that, but I mean in examining just 957 00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:27.800 that one issue you just brought up, right, you know 958 00:49:27.840 --> 00:49:31.400 what I note here being discussed is what about the 959 00:49:31.519 --> 00:49:34.440 idea that you know you're as a parent, you're supposed 960 00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:37.199 to be the one who is Now. Now, I'm not 961 00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:39.199 saying that that's a great decision to bring your kids 962 00:49:39.239 --> 00:49:43.320 to the drag show, but honestly, is it not your 963 00:49:43.360 --> 00:49:46.000 decision to make? Is it the government's decision to make? 964 00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:48.639 See this is where it gets icy for me. And 965 00:49:48.679 --> 00:49:51.199 now I'm gonna sound right wingy, but got to tell 966 00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:53.960 you the government doesn't need to be involved in my 967 00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:58.840 decisions about my child. Not exactly if I'm harming my child, 968 00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:00.519 I kind of. 969 00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:02.639 Understand a step in. 970 00:50:03.159 --> 00:50:06.000 But see, it's whose definition of harm to some of 971 00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:08.840 those people that are supporting that bill. They think that 972 00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:12.000 that in and of itself constitutes the same thing as 973 00:50:12.079 --> 00:50:13.400 you know, breaking the kid's bones. 974 00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:14.960 Yeah, they really do. 975 00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:17.519 And I got to tell you that's always got to 976 00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:18.440 be kept in check. 977 00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:19.199 You can't. 978 00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:21.719 You know, you want to say that you want to 979 00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:24.639 support a parent's right when it comes to masking. Okay, 980 00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:28.079 I understand you. You want to and and by the way, 981 00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:31.199 I support that too. You want to tell me that 982 00:50:31.239 --> 00:50:34.079 it's a parent's decision about vaccines, Maybe you do, maybe 983 00:50:34.119 --> 00:50:37.000 you don't. I'm not ascribing it to you. I'm just saying, theoretically, 984 00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:38.920 I understand you. 985 00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:40.880 You tell me that you want, you know your child 986 00:50:41.000 --> 00:50:42.159 educated a certain way. 987 00:50:42.559 --> 00:50:46.400 I absolutely understand you. You tell me that you know 988 00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:48.639 you want to expose the kid to some things because 989 00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:51.400 you feel they're ready to be exposed to them, whatever 990 00:50:51.440 --> 00:50:54.840 that may be, so long as it's not again, things 991 00:50:54.840 --> 00:50:55.360 that have been. 992 00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:57.679 Deemed completely age inappropriate. 993 00:50:57.760 --> 00:51:00.360 Now, somebody would say, there you go, Chuck, that's what 994 00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:03.599 this is with the Drag Show. But no, no, no, look, 995 00:51:03.719 --> 00:51:06.320 nobody said that you have to be of a certain 996 00:51:06.360 --> 00:51:08.480 age to go in there. Now. I can't bring my 997 00:51:08.519 --> 00:51:11.559 three year old into a bar and give them a feer. 998 00:51:12.519 --> 00:51:16.559 That's a problem. But you know, if I'm letting them 999 00:51:16.559 --> 00:51:20.559 watch TV. This is just my personal decision. And unless 1000 00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:23.480 there is something in place there which somebody would say, well, 1001 00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:24.960 find let's make the law that you have to be 1002 00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:27.920 eighteen to go to the drag show. If you do that, 1003 00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:31.519 then now you have to define drag show. Look, legal 1004 00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:35.679 definitions will matter if you're gonna make laws, Okay, And 1005 00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:39.639 at which point does your power to make the decision 1006 00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:44.000 for your child? And and the government now is allowed 1007 00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:47.199 to make a decision because calling it a felony means 1008 00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:49.760 that now you have to define that as a crime. 1009 00:51:50.079 --> 00:51:51.039 How is it a crime? 1010 00:51:51.679 --> 00:51:54.679 You know? And it becomes complex, and to me, that's 1011 00:51:54.719 --> 00:51:57.039 the right going too far exactly. 1012 00:51:57.079 --> 00:51:57.199 Now. 1013 00:51:57.199 --> 00:51:59.119 I'm not saying you need to bring toddlers to the 1014 00:51:59.199 --> 00:52:01.480 drag show. I'm not saying that. But you know what, 1015 00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:03.960 if it was your decision that your nine year old 1016 00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:06.599 is to go there for whatever reason, I don't know 1017 00:52:06.639 --> 00:52:10.199 what I have to err on the side of the 1018 00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:11.760 parents should make the decision. 1019 00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:12.639 Yeah. 1020 00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:15.480 No, I now with you on that front one hundred percent, 1021 00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:17.880 because we made that a big deal when it came 1022 00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:21.199 to COVID and I was avidly it's your it's the 1023 00:52:21.239 --> 00:52:24.760 parent's choice, and this should be the parent's choice regardless. 1024 00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:28.559 And I think and that's where we kind of have to, 1025 00:52:28.719 --> 00:52:31.639 like you said, we have to define what a drag 1026 00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:36.400 show is and put limitations. Everything has a limit, and 1027 00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:40.039 we have to have a line that's drawn. Where like 1028 00:52:40.119 --> 00:52:43.559 I said, some are not not all drag shows are 1029 00:52:43.559 --> 00:52:46.199 created equals. Some can be innocentce I guess, I don't know. 1030 00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:48.920 I've never been one, I've never seen one. I don't understand. 1031 00:52:49.280 --> 00:52:52.360 But so that's kind of where we have to define it. 1032 00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:55.800 Be like, Okay, if this kind of content is being 1033 00:52:55.920 --> 00:52:58.320 shown at a drag show, what what we need to 1034 00:52:58.360 --> 00:52:59.440 go into depth with it. 1035 00:52:59.519 --> 00:53:03.719 But it can't be Oh nope, nope, nope, you can't 1036 00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:04.119 do that. 1037 00:53:04.639 --> 00:53:08.119 When we are asking for a small government, we're kind 1038 00:53:08.119 --> 00:53:11.639 of being hypocritical about it when every single time there's 1039 00:53:11.679 --> 00:53:15.440 something we don't necessarily agree with one percent, no matter 1040 00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:19.519 if it's morally wrong, absolutely put your foot down, put 1041 00:53:19.559 --> 00:53:22.800 your foot down. But when it comes to parental decisions 1042 00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:25.239 like that, yeah, I agree with you on that front. 1043 00:53:25.480 --> 00:53:25.960 I agree. 1044 00:53:26.480 --> 00:53:28.159 Like I'll give you a quick for instance here just 1045 00:53:28.199 --> 00:53:30.800 to nail this point down entirely right, and I'm gonna 1046 00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:34.239 ask you a personal question. At some point, your parents 1047 00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:36.119 probably decided to have you know, what we used to 1048 00:53:36.159 --> 00:53:38.880 call the birds in the bees discussion, right. Uh, and 1049 00:53:39.639 --> 00:53:42.280 it has changed over the years, I know. And don't 1050 00:53:42.280 --> 00:53:44.199 go there. Let's go to where your parents would have 1051 00:53:44.199 --> 00:53:48.559 went standard stuff. Okay, probably they said, look, you're a boy, 1052 00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:53.880 this is what you got. Okay, this is what girls have. Uh, 1053 00:53:54.360 --> 00:53:56.639 you know, and look, these things kind of work together. 1054 00:53:56.760 --> 00:53:56.920 Now. 1055 00:53:57.079 --> 00:54:00.400 They chose the time to do that, and that might 1056 00:54:00.440 --> 00:54:02.760 have been appropriate for you, or maybe it was something 1057 00:54:02.760 --> 00:54:04.719 that had to be done in bits and pieces. Okay, 1058 00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:07.079 we tell you this much when you're five, we tell 1059 00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:09.440 you this much when you're seven, we tell you this 1060 00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:10.360 much when you're ten. 1061 00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:13.519 And you know what, no matter where it started. 1062 00:54:13.519 --> 00:54:15.559 I mean, you could tell me if you want, But 1063 00:54:16.039 --> 00:54:19.320 that might be exactly the right decision for you and 1064 00:54:19.440 --> 00:54:20.119 not the right. 1065 00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:22.199 Decision for my son. Yeah. 1066 00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:25.519 And I think as his father, and as you know, 1067 00:54:25.559 --> 00:54:29.280 the man that was involved in adopting you, right, who 1068 00:54:29.480 --> 00:54:32.880 became your father in that way, I think that's his decision. 1069 00:54:33.639 --> 00:54:35.719 I think he needs to make it. I mean mother too, 1070 00:54:36.280 --> 00:54:38.639 if you have both. But either way, whoever. 1071 00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:41.960 Is parenting you makes that decision and that is their 1072 00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:46.159 right and that should be protected by the government, not 1073 00:54:46.440 --> 00:54:47.960 infringed upon. 1074 00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:50.519 In my mind, Oh yeah, that's the role of the 1075 00:54:50.519 --> 00:54:53.519 government is to protect the role of the government is 1076 00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:57.599 not to infringe whatsoever. And if a child, yeah, is 1077 00:54:58.039 --> 00:55:01.360 in harm's way, they have to step so, and. 1078 00:55:01.320 --> 00:55:04.559 You're absolutely right they have. It is the parent's choice 1079 00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:05.760 on where. 1080 00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:09.239 But ultimately, if it's like, okay, if you're teaching the 1081 00:55:09.519 --> 00:55:12.800 kid about all of it at five years old, that's 1082 00:55:12.840 --> 00:55:13.599 an issue. 1083 00:55:14.039 --> 00:55:14.880 We can agree on. 1084 00:55:14.840 --> 00:55:20.079 That, right well, not necessarily because see, look I got 1085 00:55:20.119 --> 00:55:26.599 taught about this stuff very young, but I was intellectually prepared. Yeah, okay, 1086 00:55:27.199 --> 00:55:30.079 I was a little different. Now, other five year olds 1087 00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:32.559 maybe not so much. I mean I understood, and by 1088 00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:34.239 the way, it was all very clinical. I mean like 1089 00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:36.480 I knew the menstrual cycle and all this kind of stuff, 1090 00:55:36.519 --> 00:55:39.320 and how testicles worked and how to make a diagram 1091 00:55:39.400 --> 00:55:42.840 and all that. Because I was very medically curious and 1092 00:55:43.519 --> 00:55:46.199 a little ahead of other five year olds. 1093 00:55:46.199 --> 00:55:47.400 It was appropriate for me. 1094 00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:50.800 Now that doesn't mean that that's appropriate like my son 1095 00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:54.079 right now, my youngest, I haven't gone very much near it. 1096 00:55:54.119 --> 00:55:56.760 There's a difference between boys and girls. That's about all 1097 00:55:56.800 --> 00:55:59.920 he can handle. But in a couple of years, or 1098 00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:02.079 maybe a couple of months, I will watch as he 1099 00:56:02.119 --> 00:56:05.079 grows and develops and as he asks questions, and that's 1100 00:56:05.119 --> 00:56:07.679 when I'll enter that. And that has been my decision 1101 00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:12.199 about that. You know, my oldest, my daughter a little 1102 00:56:12.199 --> 00:56:14.679 earlier by this age, she had a lot more information, 1103 00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:18.159 but she was individually more prepared. 1104 00:56:18.519 --> 00:56:20.719 I made that decision on an individual basis. 1105 00:56:20.719 --> 00:56:24.320 I wouldn't even make it across the board based on age, 1106 00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:25.760 because it's. 1107 00:56:25.360 --> 00:56:26.440 Every kid is different. 1108 00:56:26.920 --> 00:56:30.039 Yeah, you know, so you err on the side of 1109 00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:33.280 not pushing these things to them and letting the parents 1110 00:56:33.360 --> 00:56:36.199 make those decisions. Which is why I have all these 1111 00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:39.400 mixed feelings about the sexual education issue in the classroom, 1112 00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:42.639 because in some cases it may be the correct decision, 1113 00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:46.519 but the school does not have the resources to evaluate 1114 00:56:46.559 --> 00:56:49.280 this on an individual basis, no matter who you are, 1115 00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:52.559 where you are, so frankly, it should be left to 1116 00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:55.239 the parents to sort this out. 1117 00:56:55.639 --> 00:56:58.719 And nor is the school the parents of the child. 1118 00:56:58.960 --> 00:57:03.400 The school at some level is an extension of the government, 1119 00:57:03.719 --> 00:57:07.760 especially the public schools. So it's like, okay, the public 1120 00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:10.800 schools and yeah, no, that's why parents are so pissed 1121 00:57:10.840 --> 00:57:14.119 off on that notion, because yeah, kids can learn about 1122 00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:18.920 sexualite and in school. By however, if you give my 1123 00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:21.920 kid a lesson on that when they're not ready and 1124 00:57:21.960 --> 00:57:24.119 you didn't do your research and you're not its parent. 1125 00:57:25.039 --> 00:57:26.159 Yeah no, that's not. 1126 00:57:26.199 --> 00:57:30.679 Okay, and that's definitely something we can both agree on. 1127 00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:32.679 Where yeah, see, this is the thing. 1128 00:57:33.000 --> 00:57:36.960 It's not their position here to make that decision. 1129 00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:38.199 It's simple. 1130 00:57:38.519 --> 00:57:41.000 And look if you say, well, look we have a 1131 00:57:41.039 --> 00:57:44.159 certain age here where okay, you know what, we also 1132 00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:45.920 have the right to take them to private schools, and 1133 00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:48.400 we should have the right to pull them out of 1134 00:57:48.440 --> 00:57:51.519 that stuff, because this is not necessarily the function of 1135 00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:52.119 the schools. 1136 00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:55.280 It's not their primary function anyway. 1137 00:57:55.880 --> 00:57:58.440 Now, the idea that you have high school health classes, 1138 00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:02.800 I think in some cases good idea. Okay, even junior 1139 00:58:02.880 --> 00:58:06.599 high schools, because frankly, again, not all parents are created 1140 00:58:06.639 --> 00:58:09.880 equal either, and this may be the only place they're 1141 00:58:09.920 --> 00:58:12.119 going to get some actual information. I've seen it with 1142 00:58:12.159 --> 00:58:17.719 my own eyes, where you know, there's a fully developed 1143 00:58:17.719 --> 00:58:20.400 looking girls who do not understand what their bodies do. 1144 00:58:21.519 --> 00:58:24.119 And maybe they should be taught that when they're at 1145 00:58:24.119 --> 00:58:27.559 that age, but no, when they're much younger. It's all 1146 00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:30.400 sorts of a variant decision. And again, these things should 1147 00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:33.159 be primarily left up to the parents. I mean, if 1148 00:58:33.159 --> 00:58:35.800 you want to engage in that, you want to have 1149 00:58:35.880 --> 00:58:38.559 the schools do it, well, maybe there should be an 1150 00:58:38.599 --> 00:58:41.880 option at a certain point, like I said. 1151 00:58:41.920 --> 00:58:44.800 Yeah, I have a conversation with the parent before you've 1152 00:58:44.800 --> 00:58:49.159 been I think about even engaging in such a conversation exactly. 1153 00:58:49.239 --> 00:58:51.079 But you see how there's nuance here where it's not 1154 00:58:51.239 --> 00:58:52.679 all one thing or the other. 1155 00:58:53.519 --> 00:58:55.559 And you have and that's kind of what we're lacking. 1156 00:58:55.800 --> 00:59:00.679 We're lacking at one specific skill because I think it 1157 00:59:00.760 --> 00:59:03.360 is a skill that you're either born with or you're not, 1158 00:59:03.719 --> 00:59:06.400 and some people just can't understand it and. 1159 00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:09.360 Either go from one end to the next. And we 1160 00:59:09.400 --> 00:59:12.360 need people who are able to see both sides of 1161 00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:12.840 the aisle. 1162 00:59:13.119 --> 00:59:16.199 And it's the open mindedness, because we want to call 1163 00:59:16.239 --> 00:59:20.599 ourselves open minded, but when push comes to shove, we 1164 00:59:20.719 --> 00:59:24.440 are not fully open minded. There's alect few who are, 1165 00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:26.000 and then there are those that. 1166 00:59:26.000 --> 00:59:30.000 Are not right. So look, we ran right against time. 1167 00:59:30.039 --> 00:59:32.559 And I'm telling you, it's fascinating to just discuss things 1168 00:59:32.559 --> 00:59:38.719 with you because you're very considerate and very direct about 1169 00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:43.000 your approach, and I love it. There's a flexibility in 1170 00:59:43.039 --> 00:59:45.840 your thinking that is I think absolutely necessary. 1171 00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:49.039 We're not going to get anywhere in any. 1172 00:59:48.840 --> 00:59:53.119 Debate, discussion, or attempt to come together in a socratic way. 1173 00:59:53.679 --> 00:59:57.480 It's not going to occur without a give and take. 1174 00:59:57.519 --> 00:59:59.760 And that's why I love these conversations on this show. 1175 01:00:00.199 --> 01:00:04.360 Script any of this, as you well can tell, it's 1176 01:00:05.239 --> 01:00:07.800 it was weird in this direction. So what I do 1177 01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:10.960 want to do before anything else happens is tell people 1178 01:00:10.960 --> 01:00:13.159 where they can find you follow what you're doing. 1179 01:00:14.159 --> 01:00:14.360 You know. 1180 01:00:14.440 --> 01:00:18.480 Again, I guess if we just google Choking black Eye USA, 1181 01:00:18.519 --> 01:00:20.039 we might find you, but who knows? 1182 01:00:20.639 --> 01:00:20.800 Uh? 1183 01:00:21.159 --> 01:00:22.360 So could you give people some. 1184 01:00:22.320 --> 01:00:24.440 Direct places where they can go to follow you? And 1185 01:00:25.280 --> 01:00:26.920 I think you and I are going to have to 1186 01:00:26.920 --> 01:00:29.320 have some discussions in the future. 1187 01:00:29.199 --> 01:00:32.679 Please please. I love these kinds of dialogues, I really do. 1188 01:00:32.920 --> 01:00:35.000 And I'm always looking for people like you who will 1189 01:00:35.079 --> 01:00:41.199 challenge me on issues like the black on the crime 1190 01:00:41.599 --> 01:00:44.079 issue and all that, because that's a fascinating one. 1191 01:00:44.239 --> 01:00:45.519 But that's on a different notion. 1192 01:00:45.800 --> 01:00:48.079 But to add to a little bit what you said, 1193 01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:52.239 I think the power is in conversation. It's not in debate. 1194 01:00:52.519 --> 01:00:56.880 Debates are very structured. Conversations are very friendly where you 1195 01:00:56.960 --> 01:00:59.519 and I are just exchanging ideas and we're trying to 1196 01:00:59.679 --> 01:01:03.239 underst and both sides and the other person that you're 1197 01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:07.519 communicating with, and people want to debate with the notion 1198 01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:10.199 that they have to win. You don't have to win 1199 01:01:10.320 --> 01:01:14.079 every conversation. So and that's the difference. And that's what 1200 01:01:14.119 --> 01:01:18.079 I promote on my Instagram. It's Token black Guy USA 1201 01:01:18.199 --> 01:01:24.119 on Instagram, on TikTok, on Twitter, it's token bg Underscore USA, 1202 01:01:24.639 --> 01:01:28.199 and the same on getter and and that's it. I 1203 01:01:28.239 --> 01:01:30.840 do have a website, Token black Guy USA at chiap 1204 01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:33.239 at Token black Guusa. 1205 01:01:32.880 --> 01:01:34.639 Dot com and you can find me there. 1206 01:01:34.920 --> 01:01:37.599 But all those platforms the saying, just go to Token 1207 01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:39.920 black Guy USA dot com. 1208 01:01:39.599 --> 01:01:41.559 And you can follow me on every single one that 1209 01:01:41.599 --> 01:01:42.039 I have. 1210 01:01:42.599 --> 01:01:46.519 Right, Token black Guy USA dot com. And I bet 1211 01:01:46.559 --> 01:01:48.639 all of those social media links are there. 1212 01:01:48.599 --> 01:01:49.880 You right, they are? 1213 01:01:50.159 --> 01:01:51.480 They are all right. 1214 01:01:51.559 --> 01:01:54.039 I have got to check out more of what it 1215 01:01:54.119 --> 01:01:56.719 is you're saying and more of the conversations you're having, 1216 01:01:56.840 --> 01:02:01.960 because I find this fascinating. First of all, you may 1217 01:02:01.960 --> 01:02:03.480 be to the right of me. I'm just going to 1218 01:02:03.559 --> 01:02:07.519 tell you now, but here's the thing. I think the 1219 01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:10.960 solution might lie in exactly what you said, which is 1220 01:02:11.000 --> 01:02:15.079 having a conversation, having an understanding of you know, maybe 1221 01:02:15.119 --> 01:02:17.320 points of view that are not necessarily our own. I 1222 01:02:17.320 --> 01:02:19.199 didn't even try to challenge you, by the way, I 1223 01:02:19.320 --> 01:02:22.559 just wanted to address a couple of things because and 1224 01:02:22.880 --> 01:02:25.920 going this as open minded as possible, because I love 1225 01:02:26.199 --> 01:02:30.039 doing that. I really thought that. Frankly, I'm going to 1226 01:02:30.280 --> 01:02:32.320 admit something right now. I thought we were going to 1227 01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:36.840 have a hostile conversation because a lot of conservatives that 1228 01:02:37.039 --> 01:02:40.960 have hostile conversations with me, and you're looking a little 1229 01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:48.800 conservative to me, so I'm going, uh oh. 1230 01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:46.280 Trust me. 1231 01:02:46.639 --> 01:02:49.559 But when you get hostile, that's when the first person 1232 01:02:49.559 --> 01:02:54.079 to get hostile loses it. The argument one hundred percent, 1233 01:02:54.320 --> 01:02:57.400 whether or not you're leftist or your conservative, you have 1234 01:02:57.559 --> 01:02:59.440 lost that argument one hundred percent. 1235 01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:00.880 That's what it is. 1236 01:03:02.119 --> 01:03:03.960 And and don't take offense of me talking about you 1237 01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:05.679 being on the right. At least that means I know 1238 01:03:05.719 --> 01:03:08.639 you made sense. I mean, there's absolutely no coherence on 1239 01:03:08.679 --> 01:03:10.039 the left anymore. 1240 01:03:10.159 --> 01:03:13.079 So as what are you talking about? And I don't 1241 01:03:13.079 --> 01:03:16.239 get offended. It's a feeling. If I'm offended, that's on me. 1242 01:03:16.360 --> 01:03:18.199 It's not on you. It's a reflection of me. 1243 01:03:19.000 --> 01:03:23.360 Awesome token black guy USA dot com check it out, 1244 01:03:23.400 --> 01:03:25.760 and I've I've got to check more of his stuff out. 1245 01:03:25.800 --> 01:03:28.039 I'm even I don't even go to Instagram very much. 1246 01:03:28.039 --> 01:03:30.199 I'm on there, but I think I got to go 1247 01:03:30.239 --> 01:03:32.840 to Instagram now and check out this stuff. 1248 01:03:33.320 --> 01:03:35.199 Thank you, come check it out. 1249 01:03:35.199 --> 01:03:37.760 Would love to have you on a live as well 1250 01:03:37.880 --> 01:03:38.719 or something like that. 1251 01:03:39.400 --> 01:03:41.239 Oh yeah, hey, listen, I would. 1252 01:03:41.280 --> 01:03:43.800 I would love to have a wide ranging discussion with 1253 01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:45.960 you on on I guess a lot of different topics, 1254 01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:51.239 because very intelligent and very interesting, very considerate, and uh, 1255 01:03:51.599 --> 01:03:53.280 this is how we're going to get things done, is 1256 01:03:53.320 --> 01:03:55.679 if we actually talk to one another and not just 1257 01:03:55.760 --> 01:03:56.480 at one another. 1258 01:03:56.599 --> 01:03:59.519 So that's that's the way that works. 1259 01:03:59.679 --> 01:04:03.000 Away And sorry I mispronounced. I said Joel, and you 1260 01:04:03.039 --> 01:04:07.440 said Joel. Uh little French accent on that, but I 1261 01:04:07.480 --> 01:04:11.119 didn't realize it. 1262 01:04:11.920 --> 01:04:12.280 French. 1263 01:04:12.360 --> 01:04:17.760 So yes, absolutely, So there you go, Joel Choken black 1264 01:04:18.039 --> 01:04:20.800 USA dot Com. Check out his stuff, and uh, I 1265 01:04:20.800 --> 01:04:22.559 think we'll have to have them on again in the future. 1266 01:04:22.599 --> 01:04:26.159 The Ocelly effect continues with John Potash after. 1267 01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:31.840 This, I'd like to call the order, this secret conclave 1268 01:04:31.880 --> 01:04:35.119 of America's media empires. We're here to come up with 1269 01:04:35.159 --> 01:04:37.920 the next phony. Malooney crisis to put Americans back where 1270 01:04:37.920 --> 01:04:40.679 they belong and dark rooms glued to their televisions, too 1271 01:04:40.719 --> 01:04:43.960 terrified to skip the commercials. Well, I think, NBC, you 1272 01:04:44.039 --> 01:04:47.679 are here to listen and not speak. I think we 1273 01:04:47.679 --> 01:04:49.360 should go with a good old fashioned public healthcare. 1274 01:04:49.599 --> 01:04:52.800 Yeah, a new disease. No one's immune. 1275 01:04:52.920 --> 01:04:55.000 It's like the Summer of the Shark, except instead of 1276 01:04:55.000 --> 01:04:57.480 a shark, it's an epidemic, and instead of summer, it's 1277 01:04:57.519 --> 01:04:58.079 all the time. 1278 01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:02.239 I hate to be the guy who derails what everybody 1279 01:05:02.239 --> 01:05:02.880 else loves. 1280 01:05:02.920 --> 01:05:04.519 He loves being that guy. 1281 01:05:04.679 --> 01:05:07.920 But Janie, we do have standards. This can't be a 1282 01:05:07.960 --> 01:05:08.960 made up disease. 1283 01:05:09.239 --> 01:05:11.920 The only moral thing to do is release a deadly 1284 01:05:12.039 --> 01:05:15.440 virus into the general public. We do have something we've 1285 01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:17.280 been holding on to, but it hasn't been tested. 1286 01:05:17.480 --> 01:05:22.559 Get over here, NBC. Well, we certainly believe in testing. 1287 01:05:22.920 --> 01:05:23.400 But I a. 1288 01:05:26.519 --> 01:05:29.360 Wow wow, oh yeah. 1289 01:05:28.960 --> 01:05:30.719 So we've got our deadly disease. 1290 01:05:31.119 --> 01:05:33.639 Now we just have to blame it on something that's 1291 01:05:33.679 --> 01:05:37.199 in every household, something that people are a little bit 1292 01:05:37.239 --> 01:05:40.840 afraid of already. House cat flu is coming people. The 1293 01:05:40.920 --> 01:05:43.920 Center for Disease Disinformation predicts with some degree of probability 1294 01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:46.840 that the house cat flu might spread in the following 1295 01:05:46.920 --> 01:05:48.320 hypothetical lot break pattern. 1296 01:05:48.519 --> 01:05:52.159 Oh Chili dot com. 1297 01:05:51.400 --> 01:05:53.920 Wall Street window dott. 1298 01:05:56.400 --> 01:05:59.480 Do you like history? Real history that you were never 1299 01:05:59.559 --> 01:06:04.000 taught in schools? Why the Vietnam War Nuclear Bombs in 1300 01:06:04.199 --> 01:06:08.159 nation Building in Southeast Asia by author Mike Swanson, with 1301 01:06:08.360 --> 01:06:12.679 new documentation never seen before that'll open your eyes to 1302 01:06:12.800 --> 01:06:16.280 events that led up to this. Why the Vietnam War 1303 01:06:16.599 --> 01:06:21.280 Nuclear Bombs in Nation Building in Southeast Asia nineteen forty 1304 01:06:21.320 --> 01:06:25.440 five through nineteen sixty one. Get your copy today at 1305 01:06:25.519 --> 01:06:30.719 Amazon dot com. Why the Vietnam War by author Mike Swanson. 1306 01:06:33.280 --> 01:06:35.280 Every time I've put it on my face, I'm able 1307 01:06:35.320 --> 01:06:36.400 to breathe. 1308 01:06:37.480 --> 01:06:40.639 Just a little bit deeper. What are people saying about 1309 01:06:40.679 --> 01:06:41.519 my true essence? 1310 01:06:41.599 --> 01:06:42.199 Dot Net? 1311 01:06:42.599 --> 01:06:45.320 I'm gonna tell you something serious, man. I just want 1312 01:06:45.320 --> 01:06:47.880 to tell you listeners. I put some some of them 1313 01:06:47.880 --> 01:06:49.840 well different from Kirsty. 1314 01:06:49.880 --> 01:06:51.639 And she gave me she got she made me up 1315 01:06:51.719 --> 01:06:53.880 some of this emo oil mixed with some other stuff. 1316 01:06:53.880 --> 01:06:55.280 I don't know what's an it, but I like the 1317 01:06:55.320 --> 01:06:59.199 way tomorrow and I started putting it on, rubbing it 1318 01:06:59.239 --> 01:07:01.400 on my foot, then on my knee, and like the 1319 01:07:01.519 --> 01:07:04.400 second day, I didn't you know, I just noticed that 1320 01:07:04.519 --> 01:07:06.760 I'm walking around. I'm like, damn, I knee is Lucien. 1321 01:07:07.559 --> 01:07:09.559 I can tell you that that that oil you gave 1322 01:07:09.639 --> 01:07:13.719 me helped me with my carpole and my shoulder problem. 1323 01:07:13.760 --> 01:07:15.880 And it wasn't I couldn't even I wouldn't be working. 1324 01:07:16.159 --> 01:07:19.320 My ankles would just really be pesky and bother me. 1325 01:07:19.760 --> 01:07:24.239 And I am telling you the pain just went away, 1326 01:07:24.800 --> 01:07:26.000 just a little rule. 1327 01:07:26.480 --> 01:07:28.800 And when I put that on, it's just it's like 1328 01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:32.239 my skin came alive. My true essence. 1329 01:07:32.400 --> 01:07:36.239 Dot net? What up to we would we get to 1330 01:07:36.239 --> 01:07:36.840 bring my mother? 1331 01:07:37.039 --> 01:07:41.559 That's where I thought it from second hour. The O'Kelly 1332 01:07:41.559 --> 01:07:44.000 effect begins now at o'atelli dot com. But of course 1333 01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:46.440 you could be some other time, some other place listening 1334 01:07:46.440 --> 01:07:47.360 to this discussion. 1335 01:07:47.840 --> 01:07:50.639 Now, UH tell you right up front, I'm not sending 1336 01:07:50.639 --> 01:07:51.480 this to YouTube. 1337 01:07:51.679 --> 01:07:56.639 Uh. And why UH learned a little lesson because uh, 1338 01:07:56.920 --> 01:07:59.760 John Potash is with me and potash potash. You know, 1339 01:07:59.840 --> 01:08:02.559 I always pronounced different ways in my own head. But 1340 01:08:03.440 --> 01:08:06.400 we know who we're talking about. Okay, drugs as weapons. 1341 01:08:06.840 --> 01:08:10.559 That author last time he was on we discussed Tupac 1342 01:08:10.599 --> 01:08:14.679 Shakur rather extensively in his writing on it. Now, I'm 1343 01:08:14.679 --> 01:08:17.239 going to talk to you about a video that relates 1344 01:08:17.239 --> 01:08:21.000 to that writing in a minute. But tonight we're actually 1345 01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:24.000 going to discuss something we previewed on that show. And 1346 01:08:24.359 --> 01:08:27.119 I don't even know if that audio still exists on YouTube. 1347 01:08:27.680 --> 01:08:30.079 I've been taken down for so many things that are 1348 01:08:30.119 --> 01:08:37.399 tied to vaccination and such that. Gee, I don't know 1349 01:08:37.439 --> 01:08:40.279 if they allowed that up there. But we'll get an 1350 01:08:40.319 --> 01:08:43.039 update on what John is doing. I'm really glad to 1351 01:08:43.079 --> 01:08:45.600 have him back. He was scheduled I think at an 1352 01:08:45.640 --> 01:08:47.880 earlier date and something went wrong. I think that's when 1353 01:08:47.880 --> 01:08:51.119 I got sick or something. But either way, I'm extremely 1354 01:08:51.159 --> 01:08:54.760 happy to have you back. And John, you're late too. 1355 01:08:54.800 --> 01:08:56.800 I'm making you late, I'll tell you, man, I'm just 1356 01:08:56.840 --> 01:09:00.880 treating you badly. Bro, I don't mean to. You're a 1357 01:09:00.880 --> 01:09:03.159 great writer and you're a great guy, and I thank 1358 01:09:03.199 --> 01:09:05.439 you for your patience, But not only do I want 1359 01:09:05.479 --> 01:09:09.720 to thank you for your patients. This DVD on Tupac 1360 01:09:09.800 --> 01:09:15.359 Shakor and the war against Black leaders and the radical left. 1361 01:09:16.199 --> 01:09:19.279 I kind of didn't want. 1362 01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:21.680 To take your thesis all the way, and then I 1363 01:09:21.760 --> 01:09:24.760 watched your video and I checked out all the stuff 1364 01:09:24.760 --> 01:09:27.680 that you sourced and the way you did it, and 1365 01:09:27.960 --> 01:09:30.960 it is. Look, it's not the flashiest of Hollywood things 1366 01:09:31.079 --> 01:09:34.119 that I have here on this video, but boy, am 1367 01:09:34.159 --> 01:09:38.039 I grateful to have it. And you got me convinced 1368 01:09:38.039 --> 01:09:40.920 there's something there, a great stuff, great stuff. You got 1369 01:09:41.000 --> 01:09:42.800 me convinced. Well, I knew there was something there to 1370 01:09:42.800 --> 01:09:46.079 begin with, but John has actually convinced me that there's 1371 01:09:46.119 --> 01:09:49.199 a lot more there than I ever thought was. And 1372 01:09:49.239 --> 01:09:51.840 he referenced a whole bunch of stuff that people should 1373 01:09:51.920 --> 01:09:56.039 know but don't seem to know. I'm almost curious to 1374 01:09:56.479 --> 01:09:58.520 ask about, you know, what you might have thought of 1375 01:09:58.119 --> 01:10:02.680 the recent Netflix thing with you know, Malcolm X's alleged 1376 01:10:02.760 --> 01:10:06.840 killer is getting let go over new evidence and how 1377 01:10:06.920 --> 01:10:09.520 that was you know, a big puppa smoke that disappeared 1378 01:10:09.520 --> 01:10:12.840 in the mainstream media. But I want to get to 1379 01:10:12.840 --> 01:10:14.680 this new documentary after. 1380 01:10:14.880 --> 01:10:17.640 So first off, how you doing tonight? 1381 01:10:17.680 --> 01:10:17.840 Man? 1382 01:10:18.960 --> 01:10:19.199 Thanks? 1383 01:10:19.319 --> 01:10:21.600 Yeah, I mean I had eight hour work day and 1384 01:10:22.399 --> 01:10:25.119 but I you know, doing counseling. I do psychotherapy for 1385 01:10:25.159 --> 01:10:28.119 a living. But it was a good day and I'm 1386 01:10:28.159 --> 01:10:30.479 glad to be talking to you now after it's done. 1387 01:10:30.720 --> 01:10:33.960 And I really I really appreciate you watching that first 1388 01:10:34.039 --> 01:10:36.239 video of mine is my first attempt at a film. 1389 01:10:36.239 --> 01:10:41.359 I did it with a local PBS documentary filmmaker who 1390 01:10:41.439 --> 01:10:45.159 just who just is paid to do the audio with 1391 01:10:45.239 --> 01:10:47.840 me and to get all the you know images together 1392 01:10:47.920 --> 01:10:49.680 with the audio in a professional way. 1393 01:10:50.239 --> 01:10:52.800 And so it's you know, a rudeimentary. 1394 01:10:52.199 --> 01:10:54.159 Kind of film as opposed to my Drugs and Weapons 1395 01:10:54.159 --> 01:10:57.640 Against This, which is more elaborate, but still I was 1396 01:10:57.680 --> 01:10:59.479 just I'm glad it moved to you, and I'm glad 1397 01:10:59.640 --> 01:11:02.119 it got the content of when, you know, the ideas 1398 01:11:02.439 --> 01:11:05.319 I wanted to get out there, you know, in a 1399 01:11:05.399 --> 01:11:08.119 way that satisfied generally happy about that. 1400 01:11:08.199 --> 01:11:09.359 And a lot of people have. 1401 01:11:09.439 --> 01:11:13.119 Bought have bought this DVD and told me, you know, 1402 01:11:13.319 --> 01:11:15.159 nice things about I showed it in the number of 1403 01:11:15.199 --> 01:11:18.000 colleges around Maryland and. 1404 01:11:18.399 --> 01:11:20.039 You know, it's just nice to get good feedback. 1405 01:11:20.880 --> 01:11:21.079 Well. 1406 01:11:21.119 --> 01:11:25.720 Also, Drugs and Weapons against Us absolutely essential viewing for 1407 01:11:25.880 --> 01:11:31.439 my listening audience, because uh, yeah. 1408 01:11:30.319 --> 01:11:34.439 You you did include a section with a couple of 1409 01:11:34.439 --> 01:11:36.439 people I know, so. 1410 01:11:37.880 --> 01:11:40.479 One way or another in there, and it's not I'm 1411 01:11:40.520 --> 01:11:42.640 not saying it because of that. It's it's more of 1412 01:11:42.680 --> 01:11:45.840 a slick production than the video that we just talked about. 1413 01:11:46.399 --> 01:11:48.880 But but both of them. I gotta be honest with you. 1414 01:11:49.319 --> 01:11:52.920 If you think you're educated on the subjects of co 1415 01:11:53.000 --> 01:11:56.920 intel pro and the drug war, do me a favor 1416 01:11:56.960 --> 01:12:00.239 and watch these films in double check, because if you 1417 01:12:00.279 --> 01:12:03.199 weren't before, you will be educated on both issues. 1418 01:12:03.399 --> 01:12:05.279 Okay, thanks, Yeah. 1419 01:12:05.319 --> 01:12:08.359 The second the first film I ever did, of course, 1420 01:12:08.479 --> 01:12:11.520 was that the FBI War on Tupacs, Acre and Black Leaders, 1421 01:12:11.840 --> 01:12:14.319 and so again that was, you know, a simpler film. 1422 01:12:14.359 --> 01:12:16.279 But yeah, the Jugs Weapons against Us. 1423 01:12:16.640 --> 01:12:20.000 I had gotten gotten the technique down better and worked 1424 01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:23.800 with some really good professionals when that wanted to get 1425 01:12:23.960 --> 01:12:26.399 down in a much slicker way, in a nicer way. 1426 01:12:26.439 --> 01:12:27.680 And you also got a. 1427 01:12:27.640 --> 01:12:32.479 Good top entertainment law firm helping me get fair you know, 1428 01:12:32.600 --> 01:12:35.760 fair right use or was it called a fair use 1429 01:12:35.960 --> 01:12:39.000 of lots of video supportive video was really good. 1430 01:12:39.279 --> 01:12:40.079 It was really helpful. 1431 01:12:40.760 --> 01:12:40.960 Yeah. 1432 01:12:41.079 --> 01:12:43.279 No, look, and that stuff is all interspersed in there, 1433 01:12:43.319 --> 01:12:45.560 and I'm telling you it's it's as good as any 1434 01:12:45.600 --> 01:12:49.640 documentary possible total package. But that first attempt at the 1435 01:12:49.680 --> 01:12:53.119 film is loaded with so much information. I do not 1436 01:12:53.319 --> 01:12:55.359 care that I'm watching the slide show. As a matter 1437 01:12:55.399 --> 01:13:00.000 of fact, of the slide show is actually an enhancement 1438 01:13:00.079 --> 01:13:02.760 to me because I'm looking at these you know, xerox 1439 01:13:03.279 --> 01:13:08.479 file copies of people's faces, and you go, Okay, he's 1440 01:13:08.560 --> 01:13:13.079 using kind of a cheap looking graphic here, right, But no, no, no, no, no, no, 1441 01:13:13.079 --> 01:13:16.439 don't judge it that way. What he's doing is showing 1442 01:13:16.479 --> 01:13:18.479 you and this to me is an artistic thing. And 1443 01:13:18.520 --> 01:13:20.720 maybe you didn't even intend it, and maybe I'm overthinking it, 1444 01:13:21.119 --> 01:13:24.439 but to me, it's like, look, they're just the subjects 1445 01:13:24.479 --> 01:13:27.840 on these files. They are not the complete person. In fact, 1446 01:13:28.760 --> 01:13:31.560 that's not taken into account. When you're looking at a target, 1447 01:13:31.640 --> 01:13:34.720 you don't need to see the whole of the person. 1448 01:13:34.840 --> 01:13:38.760 You just need that flat, basic identifiable image that, by 1449 01:13:38.800 --> 01:13:42.319 the way, you come across when you study official files 1450 01:13:42.399 --> 01:13:47.439 on nearly anything. And I noticed that thematic approach to it, 1451 01:13:47.439 --> 01:13:50.000 and I went, Man, what he's telling us here is 1452 01:13:50.039 --> 01:13:53.640 that it didn't matter that these people were people. 1453 01:13:54.319 --> 01:13:55.479 They were just targets. 1454 01:13:55.560 --> 01:13:57.439 And I thought that was a hell of a message 1455 01:13:57.439 --> 01:14:00.199 that you never spoke of in that. 1456 01:14:00.319 --> 01:14:01.560 Yeah, that's that's the way I did. 1457 01:14:01.600 --> 01:14:04.800 My cover was a big target on their faces, you know, 1458 01:14:05.159 --> 01:14:08.119 bullseye on it on their faces to show. They were 1459 01:14:08.199 --> 01:14:12.119 all targets that way. They were leading to like bullseye targets. 1460 01:14:12.199 --> 01:14:16.600 Yes, yeah, because it's got that you know, that rough 1461 01:14:16.680 --> 01:14:19.159 sort of a part of it, and I like it 1462 01:14:19.199 --> 01:14:19.680 that way. 1463 01:14:19.880 --> 01:14:24.199 Don't remake it, Okay, thank you. It is. It is 1464 01:14:24.359 --> 01:14:25.319 just the way it should be. 1465 01:14:25.840 --> 01:14:28.560 And you need to look at these things cold and calculated, 1466 01:14:28.560 --> 01:14:31.479 because guess what, Uh, that's the way the government was 1467 01:14:31.520 --> 01:14:35.920 looking at it. So anyway, let's move on, because again, 1468 01:14:36.000 --> 01:14:38.359 both of those works are great and go to us. 1469 01:14:38.520 --> 01:14:41.079 So it's too bad that the only yeah, the only 1470 01:14:41.119 --> 01:14:44.399 place you can find it is on my website right 1471 01:14:44.439 --> 01:14:46.640 now because Amazon just took it down. 1472 01:14:46.680 --> 01:14:47.880 It's probably my folts. 1473 01:14:47.880 --> 01:14:50.399 I was taking down all my inventory because a new 1474 01:14:50.399 --> 01:14:53.399 publishing company republished my book and I didn't want to 1475 01:14:53.399 --> 01:14:56.680 get things confused. But yeah, I'm not sure if they 1476 01:14:56.680 --> 01:14:58.159 took it down for that reason or they just took 1477 01:14:58.199 --> 01:15:00.000 it down for censorship reasons behind it. 1478 01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:00.920 Because I only. 1479 01:15:00.880 --> 01:15:02.800 Wanted to take down my book, and then they take 1480 01:15:02.840 --> 01:15:05.479 down my DVD, I'll set but it's FBI World. 1481 01:15:05.600 --> 01:15:07.680 Tupac dot com is where you can get. 1482 01:15:07.520 --> 01:15:11.279 That DVD or John Podash dot com either one. 1483 01:15:11.800 --> 01:15:14.960 Yeah, I was just saying and potash, even though no 1484 01:15:15.000 --> 01:15:16.560 matter how I mispronounced it is. 1485 01:15:16.560 --> 01:15:18.920 P O t A s h. 1486 01:15:19.000 --> 01:15:22.560 Okay, t asa trade, thank you. Potash is definitely easier 1487 01:15:22.560 --> 01:15:23.439 to say. I like that. 1488 01:15:23.960 --> 01:15:28.199 Yeah, I'm just look, I'm just mispronouncing things because I'm 1489 01:15:28.279 --> 01:15:30.680 like that. But I'm used to reading things more than speaking. 1490 01:15:30.680 --> 01:15:32.319 And believe it or not, even though I run my 1491 01:15:32.319 --> 01:15:34.680 mouth on here plenty. But let's get to you run 1492 01:15:34.680 --> 01:15:37.800 in your mouth because, uh, tell us about this newer 1493 01:15:38.399 --> 01:15:41.039 piece of film that's gonna come out. And by the way, 1494 01:15:41.079 --> 01:15:44.039 go to John's website. I'll mention it again before we're done. 1495 01:15:44.640 --> 01:15:47.159 Either one of those websites, get that video, get get 1496 01:15:47.199 --> 01:15:52.000 any of John's work. Actually, there's not anything bad in it. Okay, 1497 01:15:52.079 --> 01:15:54.439 like there's nothing. I would say, listen, I recommend John stuff, 1498 01:15:54.479 --> 01:15:56.760 but don't read this. Uh, and I know I do 1499 01:15:56.840 --> 01:15:59.640 that sometimes. No, all of John stuff is good. So 1500 01:15:59.720 --> 01:16:02.439 go to John protest dot com. And again that's p 1501 01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:04.399 O T A s h. Put enough out of me 1502 01:16:04.439 --> 01:16:07.920 and your promotions and your plug. How about what it 1503 01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:10.560 is that you're coming out with that Again, we did preview. 1504 01:16:10.279 --> 01:16:14.920 Some months ago on the show. Give us, you know, 1505 01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:16.399 give us the whole rundown. 1506 01:16:16.439 --> 01:16:20.560 I'll shut up now, Okay, yeah, I I I'm a 1507 01:16:20.560 --> 01:16:22.640 little scared to even talk about because again I don't 1508 01:16:22.680 --> 01:16:25.119 want anything you know, censored for for you, I don't 1509 01:16:25.159 --> 01:16:27.680 want your shit censored at all. But it's uh so, 1510 01:16:27.840 --> 01:16:31.600 the new new movie coming out in three weeks exactly 1511 01:16:31.640 --> 01:16:36.239 three weeks July fifth, twenty twenty two, is called Shots 1512 01:16:36.359 --> 01:16:41.199 Eugenics to Pandemics, and it's it's not on as many 1513 01:16:41.439 --> 01:16:46.600 digital platforms as Drugs' Weapons Against This was Drugs' Weapons 1514 01:16:46.640 --> 01:16:48.960 against This is made on many, you know, a number 1515 01:16:49.239 --> 01:16:52.479 of different digital platforms in terms of you know, Amazon 1516 01:16:52.640 --> 01:16:59.439 Prime and to B and what else, Voodoo and and 1517 01:16:59.520 --> 01:17:03.479 different one like that. It's probably about eight different ones now. 1518 01:17:03.479 --> 01:17:06.520 This new one is actually on twelve different digital platforms, 1519 01:17:06.560 --> 01:17:09.720 but Amazon Prime and to be are the biggest ones. 1520 01:17:10.600 --> 01:17:12.640 It didn't get on some of those. 1521 01:17:12.439 --> 01:17:15.920 Like Voodoo and things places like that because it's it's 1522 01:17:15.960 --> 01:17:16.840 being censored. 1523 01:17:16.880 --> 01:17:17.279 For sure. 1524 01:17:17.399 --> 01:17:20.000 I can't, as you mentioned, I can't get the trailer 1525 01:17:20.079 --> 01:17:24.840 up on YouTube because they censor that topic and anything 1526 01:17:24.920 --> 01:17:28.640 on you know, the shots and you know, and an 1527 01:17:28.640 --> 01:17:32.920 alternative point of view when the shots they censor. But 1528 01:17:34.199 --> 01:17:38.800 I really it's a much more advanced film than Drugs 1529 01:17:38.760 --> 01:17:42.479 and Weapons against Us in terms of lots of special effects, 1530 01:17:43.119 --> 01:17:46.960 with the different kind of I also have song parodies, 1531 01:17:47.520 --> 01:17:49.520 so I try to make it a bit musing, even 1532 01:17:49.560 --> 01:17:51.159 though I try to put a lot of new information 1533 01:17:52.279 --> 01:17:55.000 about the history of these shots, as I say, from 1534 01:17:55.039 --> 01:17:57.680 the time of eugenics, the eugenics movement in the United 1535 01:17:57.680 --> 01:18:01.520 States in starting in the early nine eighteen hundreds all 1536 01:18:01.560 --> 01:18:02.159 the way. 1537 01:18:02.000 --> 01:18:02.760 Up to now. 1538 01:18:03.119 --> 01:18:07.039 And so the whole film project, I actually originally planned 1539 01:18:07.079 --> 01:18:10.920 to make just a comic version of Drugs' Weapons against Us. 1540 01:18:10.960 --> 01:18:13.840 The film Drugs Weapons against Us. I was going to do, 1541 01:18:14.640 --> 01:18:17.079 you know, just just a humorous version of it all 1542 01:18:17.079 --> 01:18:20.159 because there is so much, you know, so much stuff 1543 01:18:20.159 --> 01:18:22.079 you can make fun of with the whole drug war 1544 01:18:22.119 --> 01:18:25.920 and even with MK Ultra, you know, the Seis Project Ultra. 1545 01:18:26.560 --> 01:18:28.840 But so that was a majority of the film. 1546 01:18:28.880 --> 01:18:32.760 And as I was finishing the film, COVID hit, and 1547 01:18:32.800 --> 01:18:34.880 so I just included a little bit about COVID At 1548 01:18:34.920 --> 01:18:38.279 the anks there is some overlap. There's a group called 1549 01:18:39.079 --> 01:18:44.640 Imperial College was a you know, this this university in 1550 01:18:44.720 --> 01:18:50.319 England that was doing all this research on psychedelics, and 1551 01:18:50.359 --> 01:18:53.159 they also got a huge grant to do all this 1552 01:18:53.239 --> 01:18:59.119 research on uh, basically funding this guy, this British supposed 1553 01:18:59.199 --> 01:19:04.600 expert when COVID who was predicting that, you know, tens 1554 01:19:04.600 --> 01:19:07.640 of millions or so, these huge amount of people are 1555 01:19:07.640 --> 01:19:11.840 going to die in England of COVID. And so this guy, 1556 01:19:11.840 --> 01:19:13.640 I forget his name off the top of my head, 1557 01:19:13.880 --> 01:19:17.479 but he was considered he actually never got a degree 1558 01:19:18.119 --> 01:19:21.039 in a health field, and so he was not you know, 1559 01:19:21.199 --> 01:19:24.199 they acted like he was a leading urologist, and he 1560 01:19:24.239 --> 01:19:26.920 actually didn't have any degree in a health related field. 1561 01:19:27.439 --> 01:19:29.560 And yet but he was being funded by the Gates 1562 01:19:29.600 --> 01:19:32.680 Foundation in a huge way of Imperial College, in the 1563 01:19:32.720 --> 01:19:36.920 same way that these oligarchs were funding the psychedelic research. 1564 01:19:37.439 --> 01:19:39.680 And so I showed that overlapped and I included something 1565 01:19:39.720 --> 01:19:40.039 on him. 1566 01:19:40.239 --> 01:19:44.000 His name was actually Neil Ferguson, and so Ferguson predicts 1567 01:19:44.079 --> 01:19:45.720 this massive amount of people are going to die in 1568 01:19:45.760 --> 01:19:48.159 England and then he gets it completely wrong. He gets 1569 01:19:48.159 --> 01:19:50.039 it wrong by a factor of one hundred. I mean, 1570 01:19:50.039 --> 01:19:52.279 it's ridiculous. So he's kind of made fun of it, 1571 01:19:52.439 --> 01:19:55.399 you know, in England a bit. And so meanwhile, while 1572 01:19:55.399 --> 01:19:59.319 they had the lockdowns in various countries like England, he 1573 01:20:00.279 --> 01:20:01.640 apparently gets COVID. 1574 01:20:01.640 --> 01:20:04.680 He's comes up being positive for COVID's supposed to be sick. 1575 01:20:05.399 --> 01:20:09.319 He breaks the COVID rules to go and have sex 1576 01:20:09.800 --> 01:20:12.560 with some woman who's married to someone else, gets caught 1577 01:20:12.640 --> 01:20:16.439 doing it. So of course, like some of their tabloids said, uh, 1578 01:20:16.720 --> 01:20:20.279 professor Lockdown gets caught with his pants down, and so, 1579 01:20:20.720 --> 01:20:22.399 you know, so easy to make fun of some of 1580 01:20:22.439 --> 01:20:26.279 these guys. And so he gets you know, just shamed. 1581 01:20:26.520 --> 01:20:29.279 And not only is he shamed for you know, I 1582 01:20:29.399 --> 01:20:31.000 really don't care that much that he's having an extra 1583 01:20:31.039 --> 01:20:33.840 marter of relationship with you know, someone, but but he's 1584 01:20:33.880 --> 01:20:36.720 just an asshole because he's making these wild predictions and 1585 01:20:36.800 --> 01:20:38.800 causing us all to have to be you know, locked 1586 01:20:38.840 --> 01:20:41.560 inside forever, and you know, making a bigger thing than 1587 01:20:41.640 --> 01:20:43.880 it was now. Granted thought you know, lots of the 1588 01:20:43.880 --> 01:20:47.319 world lockdown. But so I just show a lot of 1589 01:20:47.319 --> 01:20:52.319 the research that says that the CDC, even under the 1590 01:20:52.720 --> 01:20:57.159 most dangerous threat of all viruses like this, if there 1591 01:20:57.239 --> 01:21:00.479 was a you know, the Black Death in the world 1592 01:21:00.840 --> 01:21:04.760 that was killing hundreds of millions of people, they still 1593 01:21:05.119 --> 01:21:07.199 did not plan to do what they did, which is 1594 01:21:07.279 --> 01:21:11.119 locked down the whole world, and you know, closed schools 1595 01:21:11.159 --> 01:21:14.359 for for six months to a year, a year and 1596 01:21:14.359 --> 01:21:17.920 a half maybe even. And so they you know, all 1597 01:21:18.079 --> 01:21:21.720 the CDC planning for something like this, never had them 1598 01:21:21.760 --> 01:21:25.000 get this draconian. And so I showed the evidence that 1599 01:21:25.079 --> 01:21:27.840 this was a big build up from the eugenics time. 1600 01:21:27.920 --> 01:21:32.560 And the eugenics movement was about targeting poor people. It's 1601 01:21:32.600 --> 01:21:36.560 about targeting immigrants in particular. It was about targeting really 1602 01:21:36.800 --> 01:21:41.079 most most of society that wasn't wealthy, white Anglo Saxon 1603 01:21:41.199 --> 01:21:44.640 Protestant believe it or not, that was what the eugenics 1604 01:21:44.720 --> 01:21:47.640 laws were about. When you see the best writings on them, 1605 01:21:47.720 --> 01:21:50.800 like such as Edwin Black's War against the Weak and 1606 01:21:50.840 --> 01:21:55.560 other and other writings on that time. And so so. 1607 01:21:55.560 --> 01:21:56.359 I go into that. 1608 01:21:56.399 --> 01:21:59.239 With the eugenics movement, it was the Rockefellers, the carnegiese 1609 01:21:59.439 --> 01:22:00.960 the Harremans, the JP. 1610 01:22:00.840 --> 01:22:03.359 Morgan family that was inter locked with the Rockefellers. 1611 01:22:04.439 --> 01:22:08.520 They started, they got eugenics laws passed in thirty states 1612 01:22:08.560 --> 01:22:13.239 calling for sterilization of defectives, and defectives was anyone who 1613 01:22:13.319 --> 01:22:16.159 got low IQ scores and the iq i Q test 1614 01:22:16.279 --> 01:22:19.279 asked about things like tennis courts and bowling that immigrants 1615 01:22:19.359 --> 01:22:22.399 knew nothing about in that time, you know, And so 1616 01:22:22.560 --> 01:22:26.720 it was just really about sterilizing and eliminating low tons 1617 01:22:26.760 --> 01:22:29.880 of the population. They really wanted to eliminate the population 1618 01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:33.000 ten percent at a time, okay, And so. 1619 01:22:33.399 --> 01:22:35.479 That overlapped with World War One. 1620 01:22:35.560 --> 01:22:38.319 They also put huge money into promotion of why we 1621 01:22:38.319 --> 01:22:41.319 should go into World War one, you know, defend as 1622 01:22:41.359 --> 01:22:44.359 if we needed to defend our country in some based 1623 01:22:44.399 --> 01:22:48.079 on some little war skirmish in Europe. And so part 1624 01:22:48.119 --> 01:22:50.199 of I show the evidence, I think that part of it, 1625 01:22:50.640 --> 01:22:53.399 part of World War One and sending millions of troops 1626 01:22:53.399 --> 01:22:55.840 over there was the was part of eugenics to get 1627 01:22:55.920 --> 01:22:58.840 rid of people, to get rid of the unwashed, you know, 1628 01:22:58.920 --> 01:23:02.960 the useless eaters as some of these politicians have called them. 1629 01:23:03.399 --> 01:23:07.079 Right. Look, this is this is a deep issue. 1630 01:23:06.720 --> 01:23:10.840 Because I think that a lot of Americans actually failed 1631 01:23:10.880 --> 01:23:14.560 to recognize the eugenicist. 1632 01:23:13.720 --> 01:23:15.760 History that's here in America. 1633 01:23:16.359 --> 01:23:20.159 You know, you say eugenics, and you talk about eliminating 1634 01:23:20.199 --> 01:23:21.800 the week and this kind of thing, and where does 1635 01:23:21.840 --> 01:23:22.840 their mind usually go. 1636 01:23:23.399 --> 01:23:25.760 Well, they go Nazi Germany and. 1637 01:23:26.199 --> 01:23:28.920 Appropriately though appropriately. 1638 01:23:28.680 --> 01:23:32.479 Look appropriately but maybe not. And you know why, because 1639 01:23:32.520 --> 01:23:35.920 those ideas were really fostered guess what here. 1640 01:23:36.560 --> 01:23:39.880 Right exactly, Chuck, and I say appropriately because they were 1641 01:23:40.039 --> 01:23:43.800 fostered here and then our oligarchs funded the rise of 1642 01:23:43.880 --> 01:23:45.239 Hitler exactly. 1643 01:23:45.479 --> 01:23:47.680 But that's yeah. 1644 01:23:47.800 --> 01:23:49.960 See they're they're in and I'm sorry to cut you 1645 01:23:50.000 --> 01:23:53.159 off again, but there realizes the problem. They think, Oh no, 1646 01:23:53.239 --> 01:23:57.520 there were people that subported Hitler over here. But hold on, no, 1647 01:23:58.359 --> 01:24:01.399 if it wasn't for that, the whole you Genesis program 1648 01:24:01.520 --> 01:24:04.039 in Germany might not have even existed. 1649 01:24:04.079 --> 01:24:04.800 I'm not saying. 1650 01:24:04.720 --> 01:24:07.159 Absolutely, I totally agree. I'm right with you to that, 1651 01:24:07.720 --> 01:24:08.239 no doubt. 1652 01:24:08.800 --> 01:24:10.880 Yeah, I mean, and it's and it's crazy that you 1653 01:24:10.960 --> 01:24:13.880 got to explain this. It's like this stuff here it 1654 01:24:13.920 --> 01:24:16.720 was sanitary laws or something like that, where it was 1655 01:24:16.800 --> 01:24:18.560 you know, and think about that for a second. 1656 01:24:18.600 --> 01:24:20.239 Sanitation, what do you think about today? 1657 01:24:20.479 --> 01:24:22.560 You think about the people taking out your garbage, right, 1658 01:24:22.560 --> 01:24:26.000 they're your sanitation workers. All right, Well, that's pretty much 1659 01:24:26.039 --> 01:24:30.000 what they were talking about with people. They were sanitizing 1660 01:24:30.079 --> 01:24:33.399 us from those that were weak and looking for the 1661 01:24:33.439 --> 01:24:37.399 sterilization of people that yeah, failed IQ tests, and IQ tests, 1662 01:24:37.399 --> 01:24:41.279 by the way, are not accurate measurements of intelligence. Altogether 1663 01:24:42.159 --> 01:24:45.520 to begin with, not the sharpest scientific tool to be using, 1664 01:24:45.960 --> 01:24:50.399 but even so, eliminating people because what they're handicapped, all 1665 01:24:50.439 --> 01:24:52.760 that kind of stuff one way or another, whether it's 1666 01:24:52.760 --> 01:24:54.920 psychological or physical, because that was another thing. 1667 01:24:55.359 --> 01:24:57.359 You know, if they're not going to you know. 1668 01:24:57.359 --> 01:25:01.279 Produce, eliminate people because they're a poor pulpers people laid 1669 01:25:01.319 --> 01:25:05.159 on paying fines people true it were truant from school. 1670 01:25:05.520 --> 01:25:07.079 They were just the people they were. 1671 01:25:07.119 --> 01:25:10.159 They were talking about getting rid of eliminating some unbelievable 1672 01:25:10.199 --> 01:25:11.520 you know, the categories. 1673 01:25:12.079 --> 01:25:14.560 Yeah, and as you said, there were laws that were 1674 01:25:14.600 --> 01:25:18.239 on the books here that justified the government taking care 1675 01:25:18.279 --> 01:25:21.560 of that. Again, I bring you back to the garbage men. 1676 01:25:21.840 --> 01:25:25.199 This was the idea, except guess what you might not 1677 01:25:25.279 --> 01:25:27.840 realize that you're listening right now, could have been thrown 1678 01:25:27.880 --> 01:25:29.640 in the category of the garbage that needed to be 1679 01:25:29.680 --> 01:25:30.199 taken out. 1680 01:25:30.600 --> 01:25:33.079 And I think that's an important point. Now. 1681 01:25:33.159 --> 01:25:36.399 Somebody might say, how do you get from that to uh, 1682 01:25:36.439 --> 01:25:38.920 you know, the pandemic and all this other stuff. Well, 1683 01:25:39.479 --> 01:25:43.319 you know what, if your scientific community is inundated with 1684 01:25:43.399 --> 01:25:47.199 people who think like this, uh, guess what, it might 1685 01:25:47.319 --> 01:25:48.079 motivate them to. 1686 01:25:48.039 --> 01:25:49.079 Make certain decisions. 1687 01:25:49.119 --> 01:25:52.960 About what they call safe, about what they call necessary, 1688 01:25:53.279 --> 01:25:57.560 about what necessary risks are you know, and and and 1689 01:25:57.600 --> 01:25:59.720 by the way, you also talked about you know them 1690 01:25:59.720 --> 01:26:03.640 funding psychedelics. Now, you and I might have a slightly 1691 01:26:03.640 --> 01:26:08.920 askew view on this together because a couple of years ago, 1692 01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:10.119 I was really suffering. 1693 01:26:10.439 --> 01:26:10.960 And here we go. 1694 01:26:11.000 --> 01:26:13.960 Now, I'm gonna dig on your psychotherapist background for a second. 1695 01:26:15.279 --> 01:26:19.600 I was suffering brutally from PTSD, which I've carried around 1696 01:26:19.640 --> 01:26:21.479 since the child, since I was a child, And I'm 1697 01:26:21.479 --> 01:26:24.880 not using the more common definition that people use today. 1698 01:26:24.880 --> 01:26:27.920 It seems like it's thrown around everywhere. I mean, I 1699 01:26:27.960 --> 01:26:30.399 was diagnosed with this in like say, nineteen eighty one 1700 01:26:30.760 --> 01:26:35.359 and when I was nine. Okay, so this is not 1701 01:26:35.760 --> 01:26:39.600 the Oh, no, I had a bad day form of PTSD. 1702 01:26:39.800 --> 01:26:43.039 They call it PTSDC or something like this, which I 1703 01:26:43.079 --> 01:26:45.640 don't take it seriously because sorry, I carried the other 1704 01:26:45.680 --> 01:26:51.640 thing around for thirty five years. Anyway, in doing that, 1705 01:26:52.600 --> 01:26:56.159 in desperation, I dosed myself with psychedelics. 1706 01:26:57.039 --> 01:27:00.680 To be honest with you, if it helped you, great, 1707 01:27:01.000 --> 01:27:01.960 I'm not against that. 1708 01:27:02.720 --> 01:27:04.640 Well, no, I'm just saying though that you know, some 1709 01:27:04.680 --> 01:27:08.279 people hear that Okay, so the wrong people are funding 1710 01:27:08.359 --> 01:27:11.840 that research right now, it's they're not funding it in 1711 01:27:11.880 --> 01:27:15.119 a I'm not ascribing their motives here, But what I 1712 01:27:15.119 --> 01:27:18.319 am saying is there is something to this because it 1713 01:27:18.359 --> 01:27:19.600 absolutely saved my life. 1714 01:27:19.640 --> 01:27:21.319 I'll tell you that is that psilocybin. 1715 01:27:22.399 --> 01:27:25.680 It has allowed me to live, and I really believe 1716 01:27:25.720 --> 01:27:29.239 I was dying from it before. So I'm just saying, yeah, 1717 01:27:29.560 --> 01:27:33.479 it's not as though there isn't something valuable that might 1718 01:27:33.520 --> 01:27:35.680 have been exact. I don't want somebody to say, Okay, 1719 01:27:35.720 --> 01:27:38.800 see the evil people are funding this, so therefore the 1720 01:27:38.960 --> 01:27:42.279 entire concept is no good. In fact, as much as 1721 01:27:42.279 --> 01:27:45.119 I object to vaccination in general, I'll tell you this, 1722 01:27:46.399 --> 01:27:49.680 I do understand the concept as valuable. 1723 01:27:50.039 --> 01:27:52.199 I understand it, you know what I'm saying. 1724 01:27:52.520 --> 01:27:58.159 Sure, But the people that are running this program and 1725 01:27:58.199 --> 01:28:02.239 the people that are distributing this, manufacturing this, I'm sorry, 1726 01:28:02.239 --> 01:28:03.039 I don't trust them. 1727 01:28:03.039 --> 01:28:04.520 I don't believe they're doing the right thing. 1728 01:28:04.560 --> 01:28:07.399 I don't believe they have the right motivations, and it's 1729 01:28:07.439 --> 01:28:11.680 destructive as it stands now. The general concept of introducing 1730 01:28:11.720 --> 01:28:15.199 a bit of a say, a disease to somebody in 1731 01:28:15.199 --> 01:28:18.159 a controlled way so that their immune system can actually 1732 01:28:18.199 --> 01:28:22.920 react to it. Not a bad or fouled concept in 1733 01:28:22.960 --> 01:28:24.119 and of itself. 1734 01:28:24.119 --> 01:28:26.560 Right, Yeah, by itself, it's fine. It's just what you 1735 01:28:26.680 --> 01:28:29.119 put in that vaccine is very important. And that's the 1736 01:28:29.199 --> 01:28:35.960 key exactly. A quick quick word about psilocybin. I don't 1737 01:28:36.000 --> 01:28:39.119 cover psilocybin in my book or my film because I 1738 01:28:39.159 --> 01:28:42.600 think psilocybbin is a good bit safer for sure. 1739 01:28:42.640 --> 01:28:43.720 It's not like acid. 1740 01:28:43.760 --> 01:28:48.880 Acid is massively kind of you know, artificial and has 1741 01:28:49.079 --> 01:28:52.960 problems with it where and be you know, STP is 1742 01:28:52.960 --> 01:28:55.039 a super psychedelic, it's got serious problems. 1743 01:28:55.079 --> 01:28:58.760 B Z and other super psychedelics, serious problems. The psilocybin 1744 01:28:59.039 --> 01:28:59.439 is as. 1745 01:28:59.399 --> 01:29:02.199 Much safer, and I think if that can help someone 1746 01:29:02.239 --> 01:29:04.319 with PTSD, that's great, that's fine. 1747 01:29:04.439 --> 01:29:07.279 I'm not talking about psilocybin. I'm talking about you. 1748 01:29:07.239 --> 01:29:10.199 Know, the uh, the acid and you know LSD and 1749 01:29:10.840 --> 01:29:13.840 the z STP that they used against some of the 1750 01:29:13.880 --> 01:29:17.920 activists like Paul Robison and others to mess up their heads. 1751 01:29:18.399 --> 01:29:20.640 Oh no, no, And that's and that's perfectly valid. 1752 01:29:20.640 --> 01:29:22.520 But I just want to make that distinction that there 1753 01:29:22.720 --> 01:29:26.039 is you know again here it is there are scientific 1754 01:29:26.079 --> 01:29:29.319 concepts that could be useful and actually helpful to humanity, 1755 01:29:29.840 --> 01:29:32.479 and then they're in the wrong hands and anything can 1756 01:29:32.520 --> 01:29:33.359 be weaponized. 1757 01:29:33.640 --> 01:29:36.239 That's the point. So I just wanted to make sure 1758 01:29:36.279 --> 01:29:38.119 that was real clear. Sorry. 1759 01:29:38.720 --> 01:29:40.760 Well, the other thing is I want to just point 1760 01:29:40.800 --> 01:29:44.880 out that e M d R Eye movement desensitization reprocessing 1761 01:29:45.439 --> 01:29:48.560 is something I got trained in seven years ago and 1762 01:29:48.600 --> 01:29:54.199 it's been miraculous for PTSD, Absolutely miraculous, and I I 1763 01:29:54.239 --> 01:29:59.000 can't say more about it. It's it's incredible work for PTSD, 1764 01:29:59.199 --> 01:30:01.640 and it's you don't have to worry about any side 1765 01:30:01.640 --> 01:30:06.199 effects whatsoever. Not that psychedelic mushrooms automatically have side effects. 1766 01:30:06.600 --> 01:30:09.680 But I had some side effects from psychedelic mushrooms when 1767 01:30:09.720 --> 01:30:12.000 I was younger, but you know, nothing major, nothing like 1768 01:30:12.039 --> 01:30:14.439 acid at all. They went away after a month or 1769 01:30:14.439 --> 01:30:16.359 two or three. You know, there's no problems after that. 1770 01:30:16.399 --> 01:30:18.960 But they did last for you know, one or two 1771 01:30:19.520 --> 01:30:23.199 or three months for me. But it's acid lasted years 1772 01:30:23.399 --> 01:30:26.720 for me. You supposed to just months. And so I 1773 01:30:26.760 --> 01:30:30.479 think that EMDR has no side effects and it's an 1774 01:30:30.560 --> 01:30:33.640 excellent technique for PTSD. And that's why I just say 1775 01:30:33.680 --> 01:30:38.279 there's better techniques even than psychedelic mushrooms for PTSD. 1776 01:30:38.680 --> 01:30:41.399 Oh yeah, but everybody's an individual, John, And you know, 1777 01:30:41.560 --> 01:30:44.760 do you think with that kind of technique for me, 1778 01:30:44.840 --> 01:30:48.439 I would be disqualified from it for certain neurological reasons. 1779 01:30:48.960 --> 01:30:52.000 So you know, in that case, you can see why 1780 01:30:52.039 --> 01:30:52.800 it is I did that. 1781 01:30:53.800 --> 01:30:55.800 You know, whatever works for you, I agree with Chuck, 1782 01:30:56.359 --> 01:30:56.560 you know. 1783 01:30:56.640 --> 01:30:58.800 And and that's the thing is that it could work 1784 01:30:58.840 --> 01:31:00.960 for me and not work for the ten guys, but 1785 01:31:01.000 --> 01:31:02.279 maybe it'll work for the eleventh. 1786 01:31:02.439 --> 01:31:04.439 You know. Sure, we're all different. 1787 01:31:04.760 --> 01:31:06.920 Anyway, I do have an option here before I let 1788 01:31:06.960 --> 01:31:08.800 you go on, because I want you to keep discussing 1789 01:31:08.840 --> 01:31:10.640 this and tell us the rest about what's going to 1790 01:31:10.680 --> 01:31:12.520 be out in this film in three weeks and of 1791 01:31:12.560 --> 01:31:16.479 course to John Potash dot com and uh, you have 1792 01:31:16.560 --> 01:31:19.640 the the trailer there, but I have the audio for 1793 01:31:19.720 --> 01:31:21.439 the trailer if you actually want to play it for 1794 01:31:21.520 --> 01:31:24.279 a minute or two. Here, what is it? It's well, 1795 01:31:24.279 --> 01:31:25.840 it's actually almost four minutes long. 1796 01:31:26.199 --> 01:31:26.960 I don't know. 1797 01:31:26.960 --> 01:31:29.359 I got I got so, I said, I sent the 1798 01:31:29.399 --> 01:31:32.560 link to you guys of the two minutes and fifty 1799 01:31:32.600 --> 01:31:33.399 six second chair. 1800 01:31:33.520 --> 01:31:35.640 That's the new tailer, that's the go. 1801 01:31:37.079 --> 01:31:39.520 Okay, let me, let me go ahead, and grab that. 1802 01:31:39.600 --> 01:31:41.920 But let you continue to talk about this for a minute, 1803 01:31:41.920 --> 01:31:44.399 and I'll try and set that up so that we can, uh, 1804 01:31:44.720 --> 01:31:45.960 you know, at least play the audio. 1805 01:31:47.079 --> 01:31:50.000 Well, I said to the Dave Davy, I think, David, 1806 01:31:50.039 --> 01:31:51.920 I think you've got that in your email right the 1807 01:31:52.039 --> 01:31:54.079 tail few. 1808 01:31:55.560 --> 01:31:57.199 If he does, do do me a favorite man, drop 1809 01:31:57.279 --> 01:31:59.319 it over into the sky chat and I'll open it 1810 01:31:59.399 --> 01:32:01.239 up and we'll play it right here live there. 1811 01:32:02.960 --> 01:32:04.800 Good. I just don't want you to get banned for it. 1812 01:32:04.800 --> 01:32:05.960 That's the only thing, you know. 1813 01:32:06.439 --> 01:32:08.800 Ah, you know what, it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. 1814 01:32:08.920 --> 01:32:10.479 The only thing is I'm just telling you I can't 1815 01:32:10.479 --> 01:32:11.279 send this to YouTube. 1816 01:32:11.319 --> 01:32:11.920 Other than that. 1817 01:32:12.079 --> 01:32:14.880 Well, yeah, sure, that's fine, as long as you don't 1818 01:32:14.920 --> 01:32:16.560 do that, right exactly. 1819 01:32:17.000 --> 01:32:18.399 Yeah, I mean I should be okay. 1820 01:32:18.800 --> 01:32:20.920 I mean, who knows, maybe you'll be the test case 1821 01:32:21.319 --> 01:32:23.399 out that it's actually much worse than that. 1822 01:32:23.560 --> 01:32:25.680 But anyway, let. 1823 01:32:25.680 --> 01:32:27.840 Me Yeah, I'm gonna put this in the chat now 1824 01:32:28.199 --> 01:32:30.439 and hopefully that'll be easy enough. 1825 01:32:30.279 --> 01:32:32.560 To get a great Hey. 1826 01:32:33.039 --> 01:32:35.680 So in the meantime, yeah, continue telling us about this. 1827 01:32:35.720 --> 01:32:38.720 I kind of sidetracked you for a second about psychedelics, 1828 01:32:38.720 --> 01:32:41.439 but I just want to be clear about that. And 1829 01:32:41.800 --> 01:32:45.199 also I never object, by the way, to anybody's look 1830 01:32:45.199 --> 01:32:46.600 people's personal drug. 1831 01:32:46.399 --> 01:32:48.279 Use or whatever. I don't ever want to make it 1832 01:32:48.319 --> 01:32:48.920 sound like that. 1833 01:32:49.520 --> 01:32:49.640 Uh. 1834 01:32:50.199 --> 01:32:51.039 And that's a fact. 1835 01:32:51.279 --> 01:32:53.520 If you're using something, whether it's natural or not, I 1836 01:32:53.760 --> 01:32:55.239 feel like it's none of my business. 1837 01:32:55.600 --> 01:32:58.119 But it's are weaponized. 1838 01:32:57.680 --> 01:33:02.119 Against the population, and it does become my business because 1839 01:33:02.359 --> 01:33:04.920 there are people doing that in yours and my name John, 1840 01:33:05.399 --> 01:33:08.880 And that's not something we signed off on, or would we. 1841 01:33:10.880 --> 01:33:14.439 Yeah, as there are tax dollars going to uh, you know, 1842 01:33:14.560 --> 01:33:17.720 Operation Paper equip Nazi scientists they brought over to be 1843 01:33:17.720 --> 01:33:19.880 part of mk Ultra to learn how to use these 1844 01:33:19.960 --> 01:33:24.000 drugs as weapons against activists, and that's just part of it, 1845 01:33:24.039 --> 01:33:24.199 you know. 1846 01:33:24.279 --> 01:33:27.199 But Yeah, people's personal drug use. I could care less about. 1847 01:33:27.239 --> 01:33:27.920 It's up to them. 1848 01:33:28.159 --> 01:33:30.880 I mean, I'd like to see them just you reach 1849 01:33:30.920 --> 01:33:33.399 your fullest potential without the drugs. But if they if 1850 01:33:33.479 --> 01:33:36.199 drugs help them in some way, that's their their personal business. 1851 01:33:36.199 --> 01:33:39.000 I don't care sactly. Yeah. 1852 01:33:39.039 --> 01:33:44.359 So I so in terms of the shots eugenics to pandemics, 1853 01:33:44.920 --> 01:33:49.159 the eugenics during World War Two, the big thing I argue, 1854 01:33:49.199 --> 01:33:52.760 and I show the evidence of is that the first vaccines. 1855 01:33:52.800 --> 01:33:56.399 There was about two a dozen to two dozen different 1856 01:33:56.479 --> 01:33:59.840 vaccines that were given to these millions of soldiers going 1857 01:33:59.880 --> 01:34:03.680 up to World War One, and they were completely experimental 1858 01:34:03.800 --> 01:34:09.720 vaccines coming out of the Rockefeller Institute, and so you know, 1859 01:34:09.800 --> 01:34:13.239 there was a there was different journalists and scientists and 1860 01:34:13.279 --> 01:34:16.640 people that were documenting the fact that these things were. 1861 01:34:16.880 --> 01:34:18.760 They didn't know what they were doing when they had 1862 01:34:18.800 --> 01:34:19.399 these vaccines. 1863 01:34:19.399 --> 01:34:22.920 They were just experimenting on all these young soldiers and 1864 01:34:23.000 --> 01:34:25.680 these and these soldiers were dying. Someone were dying on 1865 01:34:25.720 --> 01:34:28.520 the spot, so you know, tons of them were getting 1866 01:34:28.560 --> 01:34:34.520 sick immediately. And there's lots of evidence to say to 1867 01:34:34.640 --> 01:34:38.920 suggest that the so called Spanish flu actually came from 1868 01:34:38.960 --> 01:34:43.640 these experimental vaccines at the Rockefeller Institute was pushing on 1869 01:34:43.800 --> 01:34:48.600 everybody because they Rockefellers and the Morgan families had huge 1870 01:34:48.640 --> 01:34:52.840 investments in banks in Europe, in many European countries, and 1871 01:34:52.880 --> 01:34:55.439 they ended up pushing these vaccines all in all these 1872 01:34:55.439 --> 01:34:58.920 different countries, not just US, but in European countries. 1873 01:34:59.199 --> 01:35:01.079 And when soldiers over there and people. 1874 01:35:00.920 --> 01:35:05.439 Over there, and then countries that that resisted those vaccines, 1875 01:35:06.079 --> 01:35:10.520 they didn't get the Spanish the so called Spanish flu, 1876 01:35:10.760 --> 01:35:13.159 and only the you know, the countries that that took 1877 01:35:13.199 --> 01:35:16.600 one of the vaccines got this Spanish flu. And so 1878 01:35:17.039 --> 01:35:19.800 books were written about that showing that and the people 1879 01:35:19.800 --> 01:35:22.680 that resisted the vaccines in the United States never got sick, 1880 01:35:23.600 --> 01:35:25.079 according to people. 1881 01:35:24.800 --> 01:35:27.960 That lived back then, including this. 1882 01:35:27.840 --> 01:35:31.159 One scientist that quoted uh whose name leaves me at 1883 01:35:31.199 --> 01:35:31.600 the moment. 1884 01:35:32.000 --> 01:35:35.079 But so you'll see evidence around that around the first 1885 01:35:35.159 --> 01:35:38.640 experimental vaccines that they tried when they didn't know anything 1886 01:35:38.640 --> 01:35:40.720 about vaccines, and they were just you know, they were 1887 01:35:40.960 --> 01:35:42.720 part of the eugenics movement, I argue. 1888 01:35:43.239 --> 01:35:46.840 And so then you go, you go into the thirties 1889 01:35:47.039 --> 01:35:50.439 and you see the build up of Nazi Germany, and yes, 1890 01:35:50.600 --> 01:35:54.279 the oligarchs of America and some of England, you know, 1891 01:35:54.560 --> 01:35:59.359 funded the eugenics movement that really became Nazi Germany. And 1892 01:35:59.399 --> 01:36:02.960 it was really I argue that it was really a 1893 01:36:03.000 --> 01:36:06.159 takeover of Germany because they were destitute after World War One, 1894 01:36:06.720 --> 01:36:11.760 financially destitute, and so they used that opportunity to just 1895 01:36:12.319 --> 01:36:14.960 put tons of cash in there and and really take 1896 01:36:15.000 --> 01:36:18.439 over the country with funding the brown Shirts of Hitler, 1897 01:36:19.079 --> 01:36:22.960 and it was imposed on them, and you know, and 1898 01:36:23.239 --> 01:36:27.880 you had had the killing of millions of Jews, Gypsies, 1899 01:36:28.239 --> 01:36:32.079 you know, communists, et cetera, and gaze et cetera, and 1900 01:36:33.199 --> 01:36:36.880 you know, and that was just the end of that 1901 01:36:37.039 --> 01:36:39.960 eugenics movement that was. 1902 01:36:40.119 --> 01:36:42.439 Ended up waging a huge war when. 1903 01:36:42.640 --> 01:36:48.640 The Soviet Union because most of the battalions, really the 1904 01:36:48.680 --> 01:36:53.640 biggest bulwark against Nazis was the Soviet Union. They lost 1905 01:36:53.720 --> 01:36:58.760 twenty to thirty million people, whereas England and America together 1906 01:36:59.039 --> 01:37:00.439 lost less than a million people. 1907 01:37:01.479 --> 01:37:05.119 So who really, you know, who really was that war about? 1908 01:37:05.199 --> 01:37:06.079 That war was about. 1909 01:37:06.079 --> 01:37:08.319 It was a war on the civic union, I could argue, 1910 01:37:08.359 --> 01:37:11.680 but nonetheless, I don't get into that. It's just that's 1911 01:37:11.760 --> 01:37:14.079 that's a you know, part of what the numbers say. 1912 01:37:14.119 --> 01:37:17.119 But nonetheless it was that was the extent. The Nazi 1913 01:37:17.239 --> 01:37:19.960 was the last extension of eugenics at that time in 1914 01:37:20.039 --> 01:37:21.439 terms of like the fullest. 1915 01:37:21.039 --> 01:37:22.359 Extension of eugenics. 1916 01:37:22.600 --> 01:37:25.800 So the Nazis made eugenics look bad after they were defeated, 1917 01:37:26.239 --> 01:37:29.159 and eugenics went a bit underground. Now, they still put 1918 01:37:29.199 --> 01:37:32.159 out notices and they still had meetings, but they were 1919 01:37:32.199 --> 01:37:36.119 they were more covert, you know, more underground, and so 1920 01:37:36.399 --> 01:37:40.039 tons of Nazi scientists were taken into the CIA to 1921 01:37:40.039 --> 01:37:41.479 be part of our rocket. 1922 01:37:41.159 --> 01:37:42.359 Program, to be part. 1923 01:37:42.159 --> 01:37:44.840 Of our you know mk ultra with you know, use 1924 01:37:44.840 --> 01:37:48.479 of drugs as weapons, you know, And they were sent 1925 01:37:48.560 --> 01:37:52.479 down to South America and they helped, you know, create 1926 01:37:52.520 --> 01:37:55.319 the rat lines that I mean, helped create the cocaine 1927 01:37:55.319 --> 01:37:58.680 lines down there. They were sent actually the Middle East too, 1928 01:37:59.760 --> 01:38:02.960 or all over the world a lot of these Nazis. Nonetheless, 1929 01:38:02.960 --> 01:38:05.560 I don't get into that as much. I just mentioned 1930 01:38:05.560 --> 01:38:09.039 that stuff. But what what authors have found is that 1931 01:38:09.079 --> 01:38:13.640 they started testing all kinds of biological weapons, and uh 1932 01:38:13.680 --> 01:38:16.760 in Korea for example, it used all kinds of biological warfare. 1933 01:38:17.119 --> 01:38:19.600 And then they were doing, you know, testing chemical weapons. 1934 01:38:19.600 --> 01:38:21.279 And they had Fort Dietrich and they had a fort 1935 01:38:21.359 --> 01:38:24.159 you know, Edward Arstale that's in my neighborhood of Maryland 1936 01:38:24.239 --> 01:38:27.199 here where I live, my hometown. You know, Fort Dietrick 1937 01:38:27.319 --> 01:38:30.000 is just maybe forty five minutes away from me, sadly enough, 1938 01:38:31.079 --> 01:38:33.279 and so that's where they were. They were they were 1939 01:38:33.319 --> 01:38:37.960 testing all kinds of new chemical weapons in terms of 1940 01:38:38.399 --> 01:38:42.239 biological weapons, and that's when you get into and so 1941 01:38:42.720 --> 01:38:45.119 into the gain of function research. 1942 01:38:45.520 --> 01:38:49.079 Well, every conflict, by the way, John presents a new 1943 01:38:49.119 --> 01:38:51.720 opportunity for them to have an open air laboratory to 1944 01:38:51.760 --> 01:38:55.079 test things. I pointed out that in Vietnam we definitely 1945 01:38:55.119 --> 01:38:59.319 had weather manipulation. You have chemical warfare being tested there, 1946 01:38:59.319 --> 01:39:01.399 the de fully hitting agent of age and orange. 1947 01:39:01.439 --> 01:39:01.640 Sure. 1948 01:39:01.760 --> 01:39:05.479 Sure, but only in very recent times are they even 1949 01:39:05.520 --> 01:39:09.359 willing to discuss the burn pit syndrome that Iraq and 1950 01:39:09.399 --> 01:39:13.600 Afghani war veterans are now suffering from. Even though I had, 1951 01:39:13.640 --> 01:39:15.279 you know, a guy who was in the military, he 1952 01:39:15.279 --> 01:39:19.479 couldn't get his own book into military bookstores on bases 1953 01:39:19.560 --> 01:39:22.479 and things about it years ago. Well, now it's sort 1954 01:39:22.479 --> 01:39:24.319 of acceptable to say, well, there might be a little 1955 01:39:24.319 --> 01:39:26.800 something to this burn pit thing. You know, these guys 1956 01:39:26.800 --> 01:39:31.880 were exposed to some chemicals maybe maybe you know, but oh, 1957 01:39:31.920 --> 01:39:33.560 the gol war syndrome, that's not real. 1958 01:39:33.640 --> 01:39:36.479 Though John Steart did a great thing on the burn 1959 01:39:36.479 --> 01:39:38.920 pits with the problem with John Stewart, I saw an 1960 01:39:38.960 --> 01:39:41.600 episode of that where they test all the evidence of 1961 01:39:41.640 --> 01:39:42.439 the burn pits. 1962 01:39:42.520 --> 01:39:43.560 Yeah, oh yeah. 1963 01:39:43.560 --> 01:39:44.760 But I had a guy and I think his name 1964 01:39:44.800 --> 01:39:48.880 was Joe Hicks, like maybe six years ago, and immediately 1965 01:39:49.039 --> 01:39:50.600 that was one of the first things that I got 1966 01:39:50.640 --> 01:39:53.880 like shot down for on a bunch of platforms was 1967 01:39:53.960 --> 01:39:56.319 talking about this guy was in the military who served 1968 01:39:56.840 --> 01:39:59.960 saying listen, my friends are sick and this is why, 1969 01:40:00.279 --> 01:40:01.880 and they didn't want to hear it. 1970 01:40:01.880 --> 01:40:03.840 And he published his book anyway. 1971 01:40:04.760 --> 01:40:08.960 You know, it's like, okay, you know, I don't know 1972 01:40:08.960 --> 01:40:10.720 what happened to the guy ever since, but I know 1973 01:40:10.800 --> 01:40:12.359 he was trying for years. 1974 01:40:12.520 --> 01:40:15.640 To get people listen and nobody would hear it. Anyway. 1975 01:40:15.680 --> 01:40:20.800 I've got that now loaded up your your your trailer? 1976 01:40:20.960 --> 01:40:23.359 Why did I not get that word in my head trailer, 1977 01:40:24.039 --> 01:40:27.319 which is available on bitch shoot don't look forward on YouTube, 1978 01:40:27.680 --> 01:40:30.720 but it is available on bit shooting a couple other platforms. 1979 01:40:30.720 --> 01:40:32.640 And I think you and I could just be quiet 1980 01:40:32.640 --> 01:40:36.199 for a minute and play this audio, because you're in 1981 01:40:36.199 --> 01:40:38.199 the midst of a great explanation. But I'd like you 1982 01:40:38.279 --> 01:40:42.800 to take a breath. So let's let's do that. We'll 1983 01:40:42.840 --> 01:40:44.920 be quiet, and this will be about two minutes or so. 1984 01:40:45.000 --> 01:40:48.000 We'll leave the microphones open, though, but you and I 1985 01:40:48.159 --> 01:40:51.319 just quietly listened together. I haven't heard this, and I'm 1986 01:40:51.319 --> 01:40:53.159 going to be seeing it. I'll give you, guys the 1987 01:40:53.199 --> 01:40:55.600 link in the show notes so you can go see 1988 01:40:55.600 --> 01:41:03.600 it for yourself. But for now here's the audio. 1989 01:41:04.319 --> 01:41:10.600 By nineteen twelve, the wasp super wealthy families, America's oligarchs, including. 1990 01:41:10.239 --> 01:41:11.680 Railroad tycoon E. H. 1991 01:41:11.800 --> 01:41:15.680 Harriman, the Rockefellers, and Morgan's, had joined the Carnegie in 1992 01:41:15.760 --> 01:41:19.000 sponsoring eugenics nationwide. 1993 01:41:18.319 --> 01:41:19.359 And state hospitals. 1994 01:41:19.399 --> 01:41:23.560 They fed the feeble's milk from tuberculosis infected cows to 1995 01:41:23.560 --> 01:41:27.760 get rid of them. The oligarchs overflowed with creative ways 1996 01:41:27.800 --> 01:41:33.439 to kill. NBC News covered how some states kept practicing eugenics. 1997 01:41:33.479 --> 01:41:35.199 As late as the nineteen seventies. 1998 01:41:35.439 --> 01:41:38.399 Thirty one states had legal eugenics programs. 1999 01:41:38.760 --> 01:41:44.119 Pharmaceutical giant vaccine makers Bristol Myers and Merk interlocked with 2000 01:41:44.399 --> 01:41:50.000 The New York Times and Time Incorporated, respectively. The ABC 2001 01:41:50.079 --> 01:41:54.159 News article cited CDC findings that ninety four percent of 2002 01:41:54.199 --> 01:41:57.920 the reported COVID nineteen deaths involved an average of two 2003 01:41:58.039 --> 01:42:02.840 point six other potential cause of death. As the narrator 2004 01:42:02.880 --> 01:42:05.960 of this documentary on Bill Gates revealed, he was also 2005 01:42:06.199 --> 01:42:09.680 the top donor to the Center for Disease Control CDC. 2006 01:42:10.159 --> 01:42:14.920 This Brookings Institution article shows CDC stats that report how 2007 01:42:15.000 --> 01:42:18.439 middle aged, black and Latino death rates are at least 2008 01:42:18.479 --> 01:42:20.680 six times higher than for whites. 2009 01:42:21.520 --> 01:42:22.720 ECR is separate from that. 2010 01:42:22.840 --> 01:42:24.920 It's just a process that's used to make a whole 2011 01:42:24.920 --> 01:42:25.359 lot of. 2012 01:42:25.239 --> 01:42:26.239 Something out of something. 2013 01:42:27.119 --> 01:42:30.199 That's why it is not It doesn't tell you that 2014 01:42:30.239 --> 01:42:31.880 you're sick, and it doesn't tell you that the thing 2015 01:42:31.960 --> 01:42:34.760 you ended up with really was going to hurt you 2016 01:42:34.880 --> 01:42:35.479 or anything like that. 2017 01:42:35.920 --> 01:42:42.199 At inne vaccine, Tony Falci's top a's own royalties to 2018 01:42:42.279 --> 01:42:46.960 that sow people in his agency collect one hundred and 2019 01:42:46.960 --> 01:42:50.560 fifty thousand dollars a year in royalties on that vaccine. 2020 01:42:52.359 --> 01:42:56.399 Pfizer a name you can't trust, said the US Justice 2021 01:42:56.399 --> 01:42:57.880 Department in two thousand and nine. 2022 01:42:58.079 --> 01:43:01.319 The federal government today announced the larger medical fraud settlement 2023 01:43:01.359 --> 01:43:02.279 in US history. 2024 01:43:03.000 --> 01:43:06.279 Mountains of data have emerged from many centers and countries 2025 01:43:06.319 --> 01:43:11.560 around the world showing the miraculous effectiveness of ivermecan. It 2026 01:43:11.840 --> 01:43:15.199 basically obliterates transmission of this virus. 2027 01:43:15.279 --> 01:43:18.359 Side to get some contexts, over the past twenty years 2028 01:43:19.399 --> 01:43:23.800 all vaccinations combined, there are reported four and eighty two 2029 01:43:23.840 --> 01:43:27.119 deaths over the past twenty years. In the past four months, 2030 01:43:27.319 --> 01:43:32.159 we're now sitting in seventy eight deaths associated with the 2031 01:43:32.199 --> 01:43:35.359 COVID vaccine were to study commissioned by the Department Health 2032 01:43:35.359 --> 01:43:39.039 and Human Services. It's in twenty ten and Harvard carried 2033 01:43:39.039 --> 01:43:42.439 out this study and the conclusion was only about one 2034 01:43:42.479 --> 01:43:44.920 percent of adverse reactions are ever reported to THEIRS. 2035 01:43:45.720 --> 01:43:56.960 Also, what's more, what's more, well, john that is the 2036 01:43:57.119 --> 01:44:06.399 the creepy AI voice, I would say is appropriate, and yeah, 2037 01:44:06.479 --> 01:44:08.840 these are these are the facts, some of these facts 2038 01:44:08.840 --> 01:44:10.720 that are just there, and your trailer. 2039 01:44:10.840 --> 01:44:13.279 Should be enough to get people to consider what the 2040 01:44:13.279 --> 01:44:14.640 hell is going on here. 2041 01:44:15.079 --> 01:44:17.920 I love that you point out that Pfizer is, you know, 2042 01:44:18.359 --> 01:44:20.760 clearly not one of these trusts. You know, you should 2043 01:44:20.760 --> 01:44:23.079 trust the science and trust the people giving you the 2044 01:44:23.159 --> 01:44:26.720 scientific you know, stuff for you to get better, for 2045 01:44:26.760 --> 01:44:29.800 you to be better, right, I keep pointing out. 2046 01:44:29.680 --> 01:44:31.279 And they don't. They don't bring it up anymore. 2047 01:44:31.279 --> 01:44:33.439 You notice that the Johnson and Johnson vaccine is no 2048 01:44:33.520 --> 01:44:37.199 longer in discussion at all. I wonder if that has 2049 01:44:37.239 --> 01:44:40.439 anything to do with the fact that Johnson and Johnson 2050 01:44:40.479 --> 01:44:44.760 repeatedly has been called on the carpet for what they 2051 01:44:44.760 --> 01:44:47.119 can't figure out how not to put something that's cancer 2052 01:44:47.159 --> 01:44:51.920 causing intal compowder first of all, but also, hey, you know, 2053 01:44:52.039 --> 01:44:56.000 that whole opioidydemic epidemic thing that seems to have also disappeared. 2054 01:44:56.479 --> 01:45:00.439 They contributed mightily to that by creating an interest thing 2055 01:45:00.479 --> 01:45:04.920 where you could harvest the entire poppy plant, okay, and 2056 01:45:05.119 --> 01:45:08.760 crush up the opiate straw so that you could more 2057 01:45:08.800 --> 01:45:12.680 effectively harvest your crops to make guess what the pills 2058 01:45:13.399 --> 01:45:16.079 that everybody got hooked on, that that people are still 2059 01:45:16.359 --> 01:45:18.359 hooked on if they haven't found their way to regular 2060 01:45:18.399 --> 01:45:21.479 street level heroin. Because you know, that's a good thing 2061 01:45:21.520 --> 01:45:24.479 for a company to participate in. Johnson and Johnson, your 2062 01:45:24.479 --> 01:45:26.359 friends who also can't figure out how not to put 2063 01:45:26.359 --> 01:45:29.039 in bombing fluid in products that babies are going to 2064 01:45:29.079 --> 01:45:33.800 put in their mouths wonderful. Sorry anyway, john I'll turn 2065 01:45:33.840 --> 01:45:34.119 it back. 2066 01:45:34.279 --> 01:45:36.840 It's hard to believe that Pwiser is actually, you know, 2067 01:45:37.119 --> 01:45:39.479 even more corrupt than Johnson and Johnson, you know, with 2068 01:45:39.520 --> 01:45:40.800 all the things you just mentioned it. 2069 01:45:41.119 --> 01:45:43.760 That's the thing is, that's the scary part is that 2070 01:45:43.800 --> 01:45:46.479 Peiser is actually worse when you go to look at 2071 01:45:46.520 --> 01:45:49.279 their list of products that they've had plenty of these 2072 01:45:49.279 --> 01:45:53.239 class action lawsuits against. Because this may result in death, 2073 01:45:53.960 --> 01:45:57.079 you know when there's a female reader. Of the various 2074 01:45:57.079 --> 01:46:00.279 side effects, you know, rectal bleeding, your eyes might swim, well, 2075 01:46:00.399 --> 01:46:02.520 your tongue might fall out, and also death. 2076 01:46:03.399 --> 01:46:05.600 You know, check with your doctor if any of these 2077 01:46:05.600 --> 01:46:07.439 things happen. How do you do that? If you did? 2078 01:46:07.560 --> 01:46:07.880 All right? 2079 01:46:07.960 --> 01:46:12.119 Sorry, John, by all means go ahead. I just needed 2080 01:46:12.119 --> 01:46:14.079 to point that out, in vent that first second. But 2081 01:46:14.520 --> 01:46:16.479 I love this the audio of it. I love the 2082 01:46:16.560 --> 01:46:17.359 visuals on it. 2083 01:46:17.720 --> 01:46:18.159 Robert F. 2084 01:46:18.199 --> 01:46:21.560 Kennedy Junior in it. Uh, you know a guy I'd 2085 01:46:21.560 --> 01:46:25.439 love to talk to personally. But anyway, go ahead. 2086 01:46:25.239 --> 01:46:25.960 John, Yeah. 2087 01:46:26.079 --> 01:46:28.920 So, so, just to add to what you're saying, Darena 2088 01:46:29.319 --> 01:46:33.760 had never had a vaccine authorized before, and here we were. 2089 01:46:34.039 --> 01:46:37.520 They got a billion dollars of our taxpayer money for research. 2090 01:46:37.960 --> 01:46:39.840 How did our taxpayer. 2091 01:46:39.439 --> 01:46:42.000 Money, a billion dollars of it go to a company 2092 01:46:42.039 --> 01:46:46.359 that never had author got a vaccine authorized before? Could 2093 01:46:46.359 --> 01:46:48.800 it be because they have JP Morgan on their you know, 2094 01:46:49.039 --> 01:46:52.520 board of directors, you know JP Morgan employee, I mean 2095 01:46:52.520 --> 01:46:53.840 not JP Morgan himself. 2096 01:46:53.560 --> 01:46:55.439 Of course, one of the employees from JP Morgan. I mean, 2097 01:46:55.640 --> 01:46:59.239 it's just so corrupt, it's incredible. And we're supposed to 2098 01:46:59.239 --> 01:46:59.960 trust these groups. 2099 01:47:00.119 --> 01:47:02.640 You know, trust these pharmaceutical companies that are all corrupt 2100 01:47:02.640 --> 01:47:04.479 as hell, and so the. 2101 01:47:04.520 --> 01:47:05.840 Yeah, in terms of. 2102 01:47:07.600 --> 01:47:10.319 That that trailer, I'll just say people couldn't see that 2103 01:47:10.560 --> 01:47:14.800 the person talking about the PCR test was doctor Carrie Mullis, 2104 01:47:14.840 --> 01:47:17.920 who was the inventor of the PCR test, and so 2105 01:47:18.000 --> 01:47:20.359 he's the one that said it's not for you know, 2106 01:47:20.720 --> 01:47:24.600 uh calling whether you have you know, it's not for diagnosis. 2107 01:47:24.640 --> 01:47:27.600 The PCR test is not for diagnosis, he says, basically. 2108 01:47:28.000 --> 01:47:31.159 And he's the one that won the you know, Nobel 2109 01:47:31.359 --> 01:47:35.000 Prize for inventing the PCR tests and he died right 2110 01:47:35.039 --> 01:47:39.880 before COVID came out, so uh, you know this. These 2111 01:47:39.880 --> 01:47:42.560 are some of the sources of of of the evidence 2112 01:47:42.600 --> 01:47:45.079 that I have in my film, and I have other 2113 01:47:45.560 --> 01:47:49.399 Nobel Prize winners like the guy who was won the 2114 01:47:49.439 --> 01:47:53.840 Nobel Prize for isolating HIV, Luke Montaigne, and so they 2115 01:47:53.880 --> 01:47:56.920 are very credible sources. The guy I talked about ivermectin 2116 01:47:57.039 --> 01:48:00.319 was asked to testify about about it in front of 2117 01:48:00.359 --> 01:48:03.319 the US Senate, and that's where he's getting He's talking 2118 01:48:03.319 --> 01:48:05.800 about vermectans to the US Senate. He was in the 2119 01:48:05.920 --> 01:48:08.920 US senex he's on the front line, doctor pr Cory. 2120 01:48:09.600 --> 01:48:12.319 So there's a lot of great sources that are saying 2121 01:48:12.359 --> 01:48:14.439 the stuff that you know, you heard in that film, 2122 01:48:15.159 --> 01:48:17.199 in the trailer for the film, and in my film 2123 01:48:17.199 --> 01:48:19.039 in general, I think, and so I'm just glad to 2124 01:48:19.079 --> 01:48:21.039 get them on film saying these things. 2125 01:48:20.800 --> 01:48:21.199 Of course. 2126 01:48:21.960 --> 01:48:24.800 But so you know, with that what I was telling 2127 01:48:24.840 --> 01:48:28.720 that history when you know, I argue that that war 2128 01:48:29.039 --> 01:48:33.760 is partly for resources and partly as a form of eugenics, 2129 01:48:33.800 --> 01:48:36.199 like just these these guys are expendable that go out 2130 01:48:36.239 --> 01:48:38.800 and fight for those you know, taking over lands for 2131 01:48:38.840 --> 01:48:40.159 those resources, for. 2132 01:48:40.159 --> 01:48:43.079 The rich to just you know, the greedy rich to 2133 01:48:43.439 --> 01:48:45.520 gain those resources control over them. 2134 01:48:46.079 --> 01:48:50.239 And so but as you said, they were also using 2135 01:48:50.279 --> 01:48:54.880 biological warfare and chemical warfare in a lot of these wars, 2136 01:48:54.880 --> 01:48:58.920 from Agent Orange to the biological warfare biological weapons that 2137 01:48:59.039 --> 01:49:04.640 dropped on Korea, and international panels have discovered that, you know, 2138 01:49:04.680 --> 01:49:09.119 what happened in Korea, and so they were continually practicing it, 2139 01:49:09.399 --> 01:49:14.119 finding new forms, new weapons in that way, to the 2140 01:49:14.159 --> 01:49:16.920 point that they were now you know, up into the 2141 01:49:17.039 --> 01:49:19.840 nineteen nineties and two thousands, they were doing more and 2142 01:49:19.840 --> 01:49:23.680 more gain of function research, which is the euphemism for 2143 01:49:24.039 --> 01:49:29.920 making viruses more deadly. Okay, make them, you know, function 2144 01:49:30.079 --> 01:49:35.119 even stronger, and function the viruses, the deadly viruses that 2145 01:49:35.159 --> 01:49:37.680 they found in animals, they were trying to figure out 2146 01:49:37.680 --> 01:49:41.920 how to make them functioning even deadlier, gain function in humans. 2147 01:49:42.039 --> 01:49:45.960 And they were successful with things like the coronavirus and 2148 01:49:46.079 --> 01:49:49.520 you know, other viruses, and and it's really ugly that 2149 01:49:49.600 --> 01:49:51.720 they were doing that kind of research. Now, I don't 2150 01:49:51.800 --> 01:49:55.920 know how successful they were with this coronavirus, to be honest, 2151 01:49:56.439 --> 01:49:59.920 but nonetheless, obviously some people died. I don't think any 2152 01:50:00.039 --> 01:50:02.439 we are near as many as they say, because as 2153 01:50:02.800 --> 01:50:06.520 the CDC, as ABC News said about what the CDC said, 2154 01:50:08.039 --> 01:50:10.880 you know, ninety four point six percent of people that 2155 01:50:11.239 --> 01:50:14.760 supposedly die of COVID could have caused you know, died 2156 01:50:14.800 --> 01:50:18.800 from two or three other things. So you know, it's 2157 01:50:18.840 --> 01:50:21.199 not known that they definitely died of COVID. They could 2158 01:50:21.199 --> 01:50:23.000 have died of these other things that could have caused 2159 01:50:23.039 --> 01:50:28.159 their death. They changed the whole way they determined death 2160 01:50:28.600 --> 01:50:31.479 in this country. You know that for decades they had 2161 01:50:31.520 --> 01:50:33.399 a certain way the way they determine the death, and 2162 01:50:33.399 --> 01:50:37.000 they completely change those rules just for COVID. 2163 01:50:37.239 --> 01:50:39.800 Just all right, because the major point to be made 2164 01:50:39.840 --> 01:50:42.560 here is, you know, people that oppose my viewpoint on 2165 01:50:42.600 --> 01:50:46.000 this often say, look, the statistics don't lie, and you 2166 01:50:46.039 --> 01:50:49.039 know what, I agree with you, the statistics don't lie. 2167 01:50:49.159 --> 01:50:52.640 But here's where the lie can come in. What you 2168 01:50:52.760 --> 01:50:57.239 decide to feed into a statistical equation is where you 2169 01:50:57.279 --> 01:50:57.680 can lie. 2170 01:50:58.439 --> 01:51:03.720 Okay, changed, Yeah, the equation has been completely changed. That's 2171 01:51:03.760 --> 01:51:04.239 the issue. 2172 01:51:04.279 --> 01:51:08.000 They changed their rules and the way they developed those statistics, 2173 01:51:08.520 --> 01:51:11.039 and that's the problem, you know, And so we don't know. 2174 01:51:11.119 --> 01:51:13.359 We just can't know for sure how it all worked, ow, 2175 01:51:13.960 --> 01:51:16.960 you know. So nonetheless, the other issue is now whether 2176 01:51:17.199 --> 01:51:19.880 coronavirus was very deadly or not. 2177 01:51:19.960 --> 01:51:23.039 I mean, maybe it wasn't. That's whatever, that's what it is, 2178 01:51:23.079 --> 01:51:24.000 and we don't know for sure. 2179 01:51:24.039 --> 01:51:27.000 But if it was, Okay, so people were in the hospital, 2180 01:51:27.479 --> 01:51:29.199 what do we do with them? 2181 01:51:29.319 --> 01:51:30.239 What do we treat them with? 2182 01:51:30.960 --> 01:51:36.119 They found that ivermectin and also, as controversial as it is, 2183 01:51:36.800 --> 01:51:40.079 the hydroxy quirkham with zinc, which I don't mention in 2184 01:51:40.119 --> 01:51:44.840 my film, but there's loads of studies about show that 2185 01:51:44.960 --> 01:51:50.159 they can help this COVID. And instead, now I didn't 2186 01:51:50.439 --> 01:51:52.960 I didn't get to get this research. But I do 2187 01:51:53.079 --> 01:51:55.920 show that the two prescriptions for what they should use 2188 01:51:56.039 --> 01:51:56.640 in the hospital. 2189 01:51:56.680 --> 01:51:58.119 It's two main prescriptions. 2190 01:51:58.680 --> 01:52:02.239 One is ventilated and then a study after the use 2191 01:52:02.279 --> 01:52:05.800 of ventilators for months, they found that ventilators, like eighty 2192 01:52:05.840 --> 01:52:08.319 eight percent of people that were put on ventilators died 2193 01:52:08.439 --> 01:52:10.319 and they were killed by the ventilators. 2194 01:52:10.960 --> 01:52:14.880 Okay, the best evidence is they were killed by the ventilators. 2195 01:52:14.880 --> 01:52:15.199 Okay. 2196 01:52:15.279 --> 01:52:18.199 And you know, nurses blew the whistle on film, and 2197 01:52:18.239 --> 01:52:21.239 I show that in my movie. Well, the fact that 2198 01:52:21.279 --> 01:52:24.119 they talked people in that didn't even weren't even COVID 2199 01:52:24.159 --> 01:52:26.880 positive into getting on the ventilator and then they died 2200 01:52:26.920 --> 01:52:30.600 on the ventilator, you know. So the other thing they 2201 01:52:30.680 --> 01:52:35.840 prescribed was remdesevir And now RFK Junior's book, excellent book, 2202 01:52:36.079 --> 01:52:40.680 The Real Anthony Fauci quotes nurses who say they dubbed it, 2203 01:52:40.720 --> 01:52:45.119 they nicknamed it run Death is near, Okay, because remdesevir, 2204 01:52:45.319 --> 01:52:48.640 according to the studies, killed over half the people that 2205 01:52:48.680 --> 01:52:51.399 they gave it to in the studies, So they were 2206 01:52:51.439 --> 01:52:55.880 giving people a poisonous medicine, you know. And so those 2207 01:52:55.920 --> 01:52:59.359 are two main things prescribed for people and it's. 2208 01:52:59.279 --> 01:53:02.319 It's have no fear, John, because you know you're good 2209 01:53:02.359 --> 01:53:06.079 friends at Fvizer. Now have an oral medication which you 2210 01:53:06.159 --> 01:53:10.079 can take to uh, you know, prevent your your COVID 2211 01:53:10.119 --> 01:53:11.680 symptoms from getting out of control. 2212 01:53:11.760 --> 01:53:13.760 Don't you know that? I mean we we we should 2213 01:53:13.800 --> 01:53:14.479 all relax now. 2214 01:53:14.520 --> 01:53:19.039 Everything's good because they've given us the solutions. 2215 01:53:19.520 --> 01:53:21.560 You know, you know what I'm really saying. 2216 01:53:21.359 --> 01:53:26.680 To you, right, Okay, joke, it's it's such a joke. 2217 01:53:26.760 --> 01:53:26.920 You know. 2218 01:53:27.000 --> 01:53:32.000 They they completely ban these these medicines that are considered 2219 01:53:32.159 --> 01:53:36.800 essential medicines, you know, hydrox cor quin and ivermectin or 2220 01:53:36.840 --> 01:53:40.039 on the uh we're originally on the World Health Organization's 2221 01:53:40.119 --> 01:53:41.600 essential medicines lists. 2222 01:53:41.960 --> 01:53:43.880 I mean they were for decades. They were you know, 2223 01:53:43.880 --> 01:53:45.239 at least a decade or more. 2224 01:53:45.279 --> 01:53:48.520 They were considered essential medicines that weren't that weren't allowed 2225 01:53:48.520 --> 01:53:52.319 to be, you know, taking advantage of by greedy pharmaceuticals, 2226 01:53:52.399 --> 01:53:56.479 you know. So you know, they were used throughout the 2227 01:53:56.479 --> 01:54:01.359 world and and really helped other issues. And then they showed, 2228 01:54:01.399 --> 01:54:03.279 you know, they did a bunch of studies when could 2229 01:54:03.279 --> 01:54:05.920 they help with this coronavirus and they found they could 2230 01:54:06.399 --> 01:54:08.600 and there was great there's been great studies out there 2231 01:54:08.640 --> 01:54:11.399 on both those drugs because I drox the quork when 2232 01:54:11.479 --> 01:54:14.520 helps zinc into the cells, and i remectin is a 2233 01:54:14.560 --> 01:54:16.680 great you know, as you heard from doctor Pierre Corey 2234 01:54:16.800 --> 01:54:17.680 was on the front lines. 2235 01:54:18.000 --> 01:54:18.600 He had a tea. 2236 01:54:18.760 --> 01:54:21.800 He represented a team of doctors that reviewed all his 2237 01:54:21.840 --> 01:54:24.199 studies all over the world about ivermectin to come up 2238 01:54:24.239 --> 01:54:27.520 with what he said, you know, and so you know 2239 01:54:27.560 --> 01:54:29.840 what he testified about to the US Senate. 2240 01:54:30.319 --> 01:54:31.399 So this is so they. 2241 01:54:31.479 --> 01:54:35.159 They they then take their their media assets and they 2242 01:54:35.359 --> 01:54:39.000 vilify iv remectin and they pretend like these scientists who 2243 01:54:39.000 --> 01:54:42.760 discover the great uses of ivermectin never won a Nobel 2244 01:54:42.840 --> 01:54:46.640 Prize for their great find But ivermectin is a horse 2245 01:54:46.720 --> 01:54:50.520 medicine only, and that people it's not you know, it's 2246 01:54:50.560 --> 01:54:52.640 poisonous for people, like you can't give it to people. 2247 01:54:52.640 --> 01:54:54.800 It's dangerous for people. That's what all the press was saying. 2248 01:54:55.319 --> 01:54:57.479 You know, my wife had a back and forth debate 2249 01:54:57.520 --> 01:54:59.960 with a calumnist and you o Balemar's son about that. 2250 01:55:00.079 --> 01:55:01.960 That ridiculous. 2251 01:55:02.479 --> 01:55:05.199 Well, and the realistic thing is, look, too high of 2252 01:55:05.239 --> 01:55:10.039 a dose of ibermectin is bad, but so is too 2253 01:55:10.119 --> 01:55:13.119 high of a dose of penicillin, okay, which people would 2254 01:55:13.159 --> 01:55:15.279 think is the most innocuous thing in the world. 2255 01:55:16.760 --> 01:55:17.600 This is the truth. 2256 01:55:17.720 --> 01:55:20.199 You have to have a measured and proper response, and 2257 01:55:20.279 --> 01:55:23.840 yes you do have to rely on science. But you know, 2258 01:55:23.960 --> 01:55:26.680 the thing is, again, as I said earlier with the 2259 01:55:26.680 --> 01:55:28.720 psilocybin issue, not. 2260 01:55:28.720 --> 01:55:30.319 Every solution is for everybody. 2261 01:55:31.079 --> 01:55:33.920 And you have to explore and know and take a 2262 01:55:33.920 --> 01:55:37.600 look at the interactions and know what's going into your body. 2263 01:55:37.680 --> 01:55:40.239 Know your body first, I mean, And all this stuff 2264 01:55:40.279 --> 01:55:42.800 to me boils down to what should be decided between 2265 01:55:42.800 --> 01:55:47.439 a physician who is actually interested in a sustaining life 2266 01:55:47.920 --> 01:55:49.840 and a patient exactly. 2267 01:55:50.000 --> 01:55:53.079 And so let the doctors do the work, good work 2268 01:55:53.119 --> 01:55:56.239 they do. They they found that this works, let them 2269 01:55:56.359 --> 01:56:00.000 use it. And instead they're they're taking away doctors life 2270 01:56:00.039 --> 01:56:03.760 licenses for using the medicine that they found worked for 2271 01:56:03.800 --> 01:56:07.720 their patients. They took away doctor Merril NASA's license. She 2272 01:56:07.960 --> 01:56:12.159 was an expert on biological weapons, you know, such as 2273 01:56:12.199 --> 01:56:16.039 the anthrax you know, which she was asked to They 2274 01:56:16.119 --> 01:56:21.119 actually created new legislation around her great research on anthrax 2275 01:56:22.079 --> 01:56:26.319 in front of her testimony in front of Congress, and 2276 01:56:26.640 --> 01:56:30.600 you know, because she had found like just how I 2277 01:56:30.640 --> 01:56:34.399 was used. You know, they pretended like anthrax was something 2278 01:56:34.439 --> 01:56:37.279 that was some naturally occurring thing, and she found that 2279 01:56:37.359 --> 01:56:38.800 it was actually weaponized. 2280 01:56:39.960 --> 01:56:42.199 And so it's just they they. 2281 01:56:42.199 --> 01:56:46.359 Took away her medical license for using ivermectin to help 2282 01:56:46.920 --> 01:56:47.840 COVID patients. 2283 01:56:48.279 --> 01:56:49.720 It's absolutely crazy. 2284 01:56:49.920 --> 01:56:52.640 No look, and and we live in a crazy world. 2285 01:56:52.880 --> 01:56:56.000 John Potash dot Com p O T A s H. 2286 01:56:56.479 --> 01:56:59.720 And John is just spelled John. Okay, uh p O T. 2287 01:57:00.640 --> 01:57:05.199 Pot Let's see, Yes, I got it right the first time, 2288 01:57:05.239 --> 01:57:09.520 all right, yeah yeah, But anyway, dot com go there 2289 01:57:09.680 --> 01:57:12.159 you can see the trailer. We're gonna give you the 2290 01:57:12.159 --> 01:57:15.039 the bitch shoot link for this trailer. 2291 01:57:15.640 --> 01:57:17.239 Also, somebody dropped in the chat room. 2292 01:57:17.239 --> 01:57:20.279 I'll include it with the show notes Drugs's weapons on 2293 01:57:20.399 --> 01:57:20.960 bit shoot. 2294 01:57:21.000 --> 01:57:22.520 I think that's the trailer as well. 2295 01:57:24.560 --> 01:57:27.960 Anything with John Potash's name on it. Again, pronouncing it 2296 01:57:28.000 --> 01:57:31.319 that way so you'll remember how to spell it anyway. 2297 01:57:31.920 --> 01:57:34.680 Uh yeah, Look, all of his work is valuable. Drugs, 2298 01:57:34.720 --> 01:57:37.920 his weapons, this new documentary, which I'll have him tell 2299 01:57:37.960 --> 01:57:40.960 you about one more time, and even even his work 2300 01:57:41.000 --> 01:57:43.880 on Tupac. As much as I gotta be honest with you, John, 2301 01:57:43.920 --> 01:57:44.479 I wanted to. 2302 01:57:44.439 --> 01:57:46.479 Reject it a little bit. 2303 01:57:46.520 --> 01:57:48.159 I wanted to go along with part of it and 2304 01:57:48.199 --> 01:57:50.760 say maybe you went too far. And then after I 2305 01:57:50.840 --> 01:57:53.439 watched this, this film you put together, which you said 2306 01:57:53.520 --> 01:57:56.239 was the first one you ever put together. Yeah, I 2307 01:57:56.279 --> 01:57:59.960 don't want to argue with you anymore. So great evidence, 2308 01:58:00.199 --> 01:58:02.399 great stuff. He puts a lot of research behind what 2309 01:58:02.439 --> 01:58:06.119 he does. It's not just about speculation, although it might 2310 01:58:06.239 --> 01:58:11.119 cause you to speculate about what's really going on. So 2311 01:58:11.199 --> 01:58:14.319 the Ocelli Effects done for tonight, John one more time, 2312 01:58:14.399 --> 01:58:15.680 John Potest dot Com? 2313 01:58:15.880 --> 01:58:17.359 Anything else you want to throw in here? 2314 01:58:18.359 --> 01:58:22.199 No, just said the shots you janks. The Pandemics is 2315 01:58:22.239 --> 01:58:25.319 being released on July fifth. Look for it on Amazon 2316 01:58:25.399 --> 01:58:28.159 Prime and two B and whatever other channel, and you 2317 01:58:28.199 --> 01:58:30.720 might want to look for it on Google Play, Google 2318 01:58:30.760 --> 01:58:33.119 TV and stuff, well. 2319 01:58:32.920 --> 01:58:34.479 Wherever you can get it. And I'll tell you this, 2320 01:58:34.600 --> 01:58:35.439 If you can get it and. 2321 01:58:35.399 --> 01:58:37.319 Download it and keep a copy of it, I would 2322 01:58:37.359 --> 01:58:40.760 do so because who knows they might disappear this work. 2323 01:58:40.800 --> 01:58:42.800 I mean, I'm not trying to make you worry, John, 2324 01:58:42.920 --> 01:58:46.720 but it might. We live in an age where if 2325 01:58:46.760 --> 01:58:48.039 you can't get a hold of a copy of this 2326 01:58:48.119 --> 01:58:49.560 and hold it in your hand or hold it on 2327 01:58:49.600 --> 01:58:50.279 your own computer. 2328 01:58:50.920 --> 01:58:52.760 You never know they might disappear it