Speaker 1: You have this anti movement.
Speaker 2: What we are seeing is a revolution against the system.
Speaker 2: So fixing the present system is not enough. Now it is,
Speaker 2: of course.
Speaker 3: A anti system, just called the Bocalianism, which means to
Speaker 3: tear down everything.
Speaker 1: Which creates.
Speaker 2: Some kind of influence of government into private lives.
Speaker 1: It's the mantling the system.
Speaker 2: And we see certain elements of sis now in the
Speaker 2: new US administration.
Speaker 4: We are on the edge of complete financial clouds. Cloud Schwab,
Speaker 4: the founding Father wants you done nothing and be happy there, Lisa,
Speaker 4: have a very sinister plan to control you and your money.
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Speaker 5: Jane, Let's dive into.
Speaker 4: The pit of evil that is the Builderberg Group, the Rothchilds,
Speaker 4: the World Economic Forum, the fed, Klau, Schwab and Larry Fink.
Speaker 5: But in the context of predictive programming, misinformation, the financial
Speaker 5: collapse unfolding, what is going on with the recent elitist
Speaker 5: meetings that have been happening around the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, predicted programming is an interesting angle to come
Speaker 1: at that with, because if you don't know what that is,
Speaker 1: that's the idea that a lot of fiction, a lot
Speaker 1: of movies, a lot of you know, even perhaps music
Speaker 1: at times that it conditions the public. And so we've
Speaker 1: been indoctrineeded. We've been subjected to pretty sophisticated levels and
Speaker 1: types of propaganda, everything from subliminals to you know, predictive
Speaker 1: elements within the fiction that kind of prepares and conditions
Speaker 1: us for the world that the technocratically want to roll out.
Speaker 1: So a classic example of this would be somebody like H. G. Wells.
Speaker 1: We go back to his writings The New World Order,
Speaker 1: other books that he wrote, even particularly the nonfiction, not
Speaker 1: so much the fiction, even though that has a predictive
Speaker 1: element too. HG. Wells was saying that we're going to
Speaker 1: have this technocratic world order that rolls out. It's a
Speaker 1: socialistic technocratic order, Fabian socialism, et cetera. But he said
Speaker 1: that the way that we really need to reach the
Speaker 1: public is through the propaganda the t in fiction. So
Speaker 1: he wrote a lot of books, were of the Worlds,
Speaker 1: Island of Doctor Moreau, and many others that were all
Speaker 1: about this future scientific dictatorship. A kind of a scientism
Speaker 1: is basically a religion to these people. So they want
Speaker 1: to roll that out right and then conditioning everybody too,
Speaker 1: basically accepting it at some future point. So the fascinting
Speaker 1: thing about out Wells is that what you read in H. G.
Speaker 1: Wells back in the thirties, what you read in Bertrand
Speaker 1: Russell back in the twenties, thirties and forties, it's the
Speaker 1: exact same thing that Klaus puts into his books today.
Speaker 1: So when we read Fourth Industrial Revolution by Klaus, which
Speaker 1: I've lectured through, we find out, hey, he's saying the
Speaker 1: exact same thing that one hundred years or earlier Wells and
Speaker 1: Russell said. So we know that it is an actual
Speaker 1: plan that's rolled out. And I think these yearly meetings
Speaker 1: that we see like the World Government seven A Summit
Speaker 1: or World Economic Form Davos, these are really just kind
Speaker 1: of public unveilings. They're coming out of the clauset. So
Speaker 1: it be telling us what they really think and what
Speaker 1: they really want and what has actually been planned for
Speaker 1: a really long time, and that is again, to have
Speaker 1: a single world currency, a single world religion, a single
Speaker 1: world government, a single order that everyone else submits to
Speaker 1: and then whatever is useful to get people into that
Speaker 1: order is the thing that they do. So they're not
Speaker 1: necessarily committed to one single ideaology like classical Marxism or
Speaker 1: something like that. They'll utilize, as hgu Well says, monopoly, capitalism, socialism, Marxism, fascism,
Speaker 1: anything that seems to work at the time to their ends.
Speaker 1: They'll use those to get to the final stage, which
Speaker 1: is ultimately kind of a massy population, as the world
Speaker 1: that I Inform itself says in their videos drastically reducing
Speaker 1: the population. And other elite writers that I talk about too,
Speaker 1: like Jacques Attali in his book Brief History of the Future.
Speaker 1: He's known as the Kissinger of France. Attily says that
Speaker 1: we're going to create a global brain. We're going to depopulate.
Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna be hooked in the matrix, and that's how
Speaker 1: we'll all be in com pods and we'll all be
Speaker 1: controlled in that way. So whether it's Klaus, whether it's Jacquettilli,
Speaker 1: or whether it's a hundred year ago, it's the same
Speaker 1: plan and the origins of this you mentioned Bilderberg, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Klaus comes out of the history being in
Speaker 1: this big steering committee group kind of created by the
Speaker 1: Rockefellers and Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands back in the
Speaker 1: middle of the the last century. This was a post
Speaker 1: Cold War idea. Excuse me, after World War Two. They
Speaker 1: came up with the idea to create these steering committees
Speaker 1: kind of modeled on the roundtable groups of England, modeled
Speaker 1: on which are modeled on, which results in the councilor
Speaker 1: Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission. And so those are
Speaker 1: the people who found Klaus and said, hey, let's give
Speaker 1: this guy a committee. Let's put him over here. No, literally,
Speaker 1: that's what happened like that. It's called the Harvard Research Project.
Speaker 1: And this was a Kissinger idea to put Klaus and
Speaker 1: other people in just another one of many many steering
Speaker 1: committee you know in geo type groups.
Speaker 5: That's absolutely crazy.
Speaker 4: So they've started this plan like one hundred years ago,
Speaker 4: and we're having all these public meetings now are they
Speaker 4: closer to their objective? Claud Schwub talks about twenty thirty
Speaker 4: being a key date things ramping up. We'll dive into
Speaker 4: bitcoin and stuff shortly, because you talked about one world currency,
Speaker 4: but are they getting a little bit more confident, and
Speaker 4: is that why we're seeing them on the main stage
Speaker 4: and they're sort of prepping us for what they think
Speaker 4: will happen by twenty thirty, or they haven't been successful
Speaker 4: up until now, and it may take them a whole
Speaker 4: lot longer to roll this out than they would like.
Speaker 1: I think there's two things going on. On the one hand,
Speaker 1: they think that they've been successful in a lot of
Speaker 1: their designs and a lot of their agendas, so globalization
Speaker 1: is a big part of this. They think that they've
Speaker 1: made tremendous strides in that arena through World War One,
Speaker 1: World War two, in the Cold War. This is really
Speaker 1: the thesis of a doctor Carroll Quigley's book, Tragy and Hope,
Speaker 1: which I've lectured through. This really explains the purpose of
Speaker 1: the two world Wars and the Cold War was really
Speaker 1: to try to eventually get us to this one world
Speaker 1: order that they want to see. Now, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of roadblocks still in the way that they haven't gotten
Speaker 1: over yet. Some of those would be currency, some of
Speaker 1: those would be the maintenance of nation states that still
Speaker 1: exists that they haven't completely destroyed yet. And one of
Speaker 1: those courses the United States and then the Western ideas
Speaker 1: in general, rule by law. These kinds of things have
Speaker 1: to be gotten rid of. Other things stand in a way,
Speaker 1: like religion that they talk about quite often too. People
Speaker 1: have to be given a new kind of world religion,
Speaker 1: and so any remaining religious traditions have to be kind
Speaker 1: of diluted and destroyed. That's another big part of the
Speaker 1: puzzle that that they overlook, you know, things that stand
Speaker 1: in the way, like having international committees that can bypass
Speaker 1: you know, national governments in terms of health laws. That's
Speaker 1: another big thing. That's a huge deal. We saw that,
Speaker 1: you know, being brought to the fore in the last
Speaker 1: three years of the koof crisis. Really have these you know,
Speaker 1: these international bodies with actual authority, and they've been trying
Speaker 1: to put these international bodies into place for a long time.
Speaker 1: After World War One, it was the League of Nations.
Speaker 1: Quickly says that failed, and so we had World War
Speaker 1: Two to bring about United Nations. The United Nations has
Speaker 1: never never really had a lot of force behind it.
Speaker 1: So I think they'd like to get to a stage
Speaker 1: where some international body does have an actual, you know,
Speaker 1: standing army and force behind it to enforce their decisions.
Speaker 1: So that's the long plan. And you mentioned I'm glad
Speaker 1: you mentioned twenty thirty. They actually have actuaries for twenty
Speaker 1: thirty twenty twenty fifty, and this is in all their writings.
Speaker 1: So atally, as I mentioned, he talked about what they
Speaker 1: want by twenty forty twenty fifty. You know Klaus and
Speaker 1: his videos that they that they put out a few
Speaker 1: years ago that went viral, which they subsequently took down.
Speaker 1: By the way, I don't know why they would want
Speaker 1: to put it out there now, but basically they put
Speaker 1: that video out. You know, the eight things to expect
Speaker 1: by twenty thirty according to the WEF, and it was
Speaker 1: the United States will lose its place in terms of
Speaker 1: Western dominance. You'll eat a lot less meat aka e zuboges.
Speaker 1: There will be a movement towards a greater multipolarity, which
Speaker 1: in their terminology, they don't mean it in the same
Speaker 1: way that you know Putin or Eurasian do you'll political
Speaker 1: leaders mean They mean it in the sense of a
Speaker 1: one world government that has like decreased America's standing in
Speaker 1: the world order. So it goes on to talk about
Speaker 1: more open borders, It talks about greater centralized control, less
Speaker 1: of a market economy that we even have now, and
Speaker 1: basically reized technocratic order will bring your food, your underwear
Speaker 1: or whatever. They talk about a circular economy. That's another
Speaker 1: big thing. This is just kind of a classic communist
Speaker 1: idea that I'm gonna, you know, share my whitey tidies
Speaker 1: with all the people in my neighborhood. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: have my own white tidy underwear. You don't need your
Speaker 1: own care of underwear. You can all share the underwear
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood. So literally, that's what they say. You
Speaker 1: to Alcinsho's a big World Economic Forum circular economy theorist,
Speaker 1: and that's what they say. Everything will be shared, want
Speaker 1: you'll own nothing, you'll have nothing to be happy, et cetera.
Speaker 1: So that's where they want to take us. The things
Speaker 1: that stand in the way are nation states. Rule of
Speaker 1: law stands in the way, religion stands in the way.
Speaker 1: And I do believe a big is a problem. And
Speaker 1: that's why we find people talking about cryptocurrencies from the
Speaker 1: World Economic Forum. They're always wanting something that's completely centralized.
Speaker 1: So any of the decentralized protocols or cryptos. They don't.
Speaker 1: It's not really useful to them, and particularly you know
Speaker 1: Bigcoin of course is the king of crypto, the true
Speaker 1: ethical money, and so no, they don't like that at all.
Speaker 4: I wasn't going to take the conversation here straight away,
Speaker 4: but we may as well dive into bitcoin. Larry Finks
Speaker 4: obviously entered the race with the ATS and they've been
Speaker 4: acquiring minors for many, many years. Is there a sinister
Speaker 4: agenda here with Blackrock potentially, or are they just here
Speaker 4: for the number go up and turn fees as people
Speaker 4: by the ETF and they're just happy to hold the
Speaker 4: bitcoin in behalf of investors or does this tie in
Speaker 4: with Blackrock the way everyone else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of speculation there. I don't know
Speaker 1: exactly what their motivations are. I think my suspicion would
Speaker 1: be that it's beyond just making profits or looking for gains.
Speaker 1: I think that if you look at the what what
Speaker 1: they propose with their various regulations of the DEI, all
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, that to me suggests that no,
Speaker 1: it is more about social control. And we have interviews
Speaker 1: with Larry Fink talking about you know, we're gonna make
Speaker 1: you act right, you know this kind of stuff, We're
Speaker 1: gonna put this down your throat. So that to me
Speaker 1: suggests no more of an agenda than just you know,
Speaker 1: getting gains. So what exactly the plans are in terms
Speaker 1: of what they acquire in the short term, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but my guess would be that they would like to
Speaker 1: have as much influence as possible. I mean, even if
Speaker 1: they bought as much as they could, I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't I mean, I don't know that they could even
Speaker 1: dump everything that they bought in one day to destroy.
Speaker 1: But I mean, that's the theories that people come up with, is, oh,
Speaker 1: they're going to buy all this and they're gonna dump
Speaker 1: it destroy But I don't think that would destroy bitcoin.
Speaker 1: I don't see how that would would happen. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not like a tech guru master, I don't know
Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff in terms of the logistics
Speaker 1: of it. But it doesn't seem probable to me that
Speaker 1: that would be the way that you could try to
Speaker 1: destroy bitcoin. But maybe that that is an end goal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like the most likely if they were
Speaker 4: to do something would be to hard fork it. But
Speaker 4: people that are holding the original bitcoin end up with
Speaker 4: bitcoin and the new fork anyway, so it's probably not
Speaker 4: the worst thing. I think it's more just about the
Speaker 4: control potentially for people that are holding those e TIFs.
Speaker 4: But I guess we'll see how it plays out. Klaub
Speaker 4: Schwab talks about cyber attacks. Obviously, Bitcoin lives in cyberspace.
Speaker 4: I've know you've gone into conversations talking about EMPs and
Speaker 4: the like. What's so they're like training for cyber attacks.
Speaker 4: They did this before the pan demic in regards to viruses,
Speaker 4: and then the virus came out a couple of months later.
Speaker 4: Now they're talking about cyber attacks. We've got the US
Speaker 4: elections this year, they're talking about disease X and cyber
Speaker 4: polygon as well. How's all this tie in, I guess
Speaker 4: into the potential year he cast twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this question gets ask a lot. I don't actually
Speaker 1: know how real one MP attack would be in the
Speaker 1: sense of I mean, you'd have to presumably release many
Speaker 1: e MPs over the entire continental United States or North America.
Speaker 1: I don't think that. I don't think there's one GoldenEye
Speaker 1: e m P. Like if you watch the old you know,
Speaker 1: the Pierce Brosen and James Bond GoldenEye. That's about an
Speaker 1: EMP attack, and the idea is that there's a you know,
Speaker 1: satellite thing that corresponds with the ground based terminal that
Speaker 1: can you know, destroy one entire continent's electrical capabilities. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think that exists. That's more James Bond level stuff.
Speaker 1: So how real and how effective that would be, I
Speaker 1: don't know. But even in the case of a scenario
Speaker 1: where we did go back to like eighteen hundred's era
Speaker 1: stuff where let's say for a time period the internet
Speaker 1: went down or the power grid went down, I mean
Speaker 1: it would only be in a certain region. It wouldn't
Speaker 1: be everywhere. And also they didn't spend all this time
Speaker 1: and effort putting the tech grid into place to shut
Speaker 1: it down, right. I mean, Class makes a big point
Speaker 1: in the last third of his book, Fourth and Dual
Speaker 1: Revolution talking about the sky knit grid and the Internet
Speaker 1: of things. Well, you can't have the Internet of things
Speaker 1: if you try to destroy everything and take us back
Speaker 1: to the little house on the prairie. But so I
Speaker 1: think that if there was that kind of a scenario,
Speaker 1: it would be a limited time where they tried to
Speaker 1: engage in some kind of regionalized warfare to shut down
Speaker 1: a country's electrical capabilities. It would eventually come back. So,
Speaker 1: you know, bitcoin is it's like, you know, like the
Speaker 1: old boom Er joke about you know, is the bitcoin?
Speaker 1: Is my email still there if my computer's off? Right?
Speaker 1: I mean it doesn't. Bitcoin's not going anywhere, even if
Speaker 1: the if the Internet in a certain region went down, right,
Speaker 1: So we're talking about a globally decentralized you know, ten
Speaker 1: thousand hubs or whatever are supposed to be the idea
Speaker 1: of the decentralized ledger for bitcoins. Even if the Internet
Speaker 1: went down. You know, it's not going away. But I
Speaker 1: think the danger would be the crises that they want
Speaker 1: to try to utilize or cause or co opt. Those
Speaker 1: crises would be to move us into trying to accept
Speaker 1: something like UBI fed coin, something like this like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, America's economy collapses. Oh well, you know, log
Speaker 1: on here and get your you know, government wallet, Get
Speaker 1: get Biden bucks, right, download some Biden bucks from your
Speaker 1: fed coin you know, wall or whatever. So and then
Speaker 1: that might be a sort of an enticement to try
Speaker 1: to lure people into a UBI. We know Zuckerberg. All
Speaker 1: these people have talked about how they would love how
Speaker 1: a UBI everybody on some sort of you know, Facebook
Speaker 1: government doll But I mean, I just don't think that
Speaker 1: will work. Those plans always fail in history, but they
Speaker 1: might cause a lot of damage trying to try to
Speaker 1: push it through.
Speaker 4: Yeah, do you see that as the most likely Like
Speaker 4: bitcoin came out, I think they ignored it for so long,
Speaker 4: it built up a pretty large user base in the
Speaker 4: market cap, and I think it looks like they sort
Speaker 4: of just wake up one day and like, oh, this
Speaker 4: thing is here. Are they panicking because of bitcoin? Has
Speaker 4: that pushed them to advance their gender and CBDCs and
Speaker 4: the like of that? And are they just going to
Speaker 4: continue with the fud campaign against bitcoin?
Speaker 5: Like they can't stop it now.
Speaker 4: They can close the on ramps onto it as much
Speaker 4: as possible, but not globally people are just going to
Speaker 4: go to where they're money is welcome. But how the
Speaker 4: sab A says come into the mix in relation to bitcoin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're absolutely right there. The idea is, Okay,
Speaker 1: we can't stop this now. A lot of those people
Speaker 1: still have a boomer mindset, like they think of it
Speaker 1: as I don't know, like Pokemon trading cards or it's
Speaker 1: this thing that terrorists do. And I mean they still
Speaker 1: think in the fud from ten years ago about bitcoin,
Speaker 1: but they have realized I think, like you said, Tradfi
Speaker 1: has realized, Okay, we can't stop this. So their typical
Speaker 1: motivation in situations in the past, I think where something
Speaker 1: arises that they feel like they can't stop, is well,
Speaker 1: now we've got to buy into it and control it
Speaker 1: and manipulate it. So that's I think the move they're
Speaker 1: going for. I don't think they'll actually succeed in doing that.
Speaker 1: I think you're only really that's only going to propel
Speaker 1: and exponentially expose more people to the idea of bitcoin.
Speaker 1: And then what will happen is and they're trying to
Speaker 1: do this already, I think, is to figure out ways
Speaker 1: to offer some other thing. But they don't. They still
Speaker 1: understand the superiority here, what we have with the hardest
Speaker 1: money ever in terms of bitcoin. So all of their
Speaker 1: their old scams are not really gonna work on a masco,
Speaker 1: I don't think, right, because the old scams are always
Speaker 1: based on Fiat and so any kind of new uh
Speaker 1: you know, fed coin or something like that. It's it's
Speaker 1: just going to be a an electronic version of FIAT
Speaker 1: where they can say, oh, well, you know, we'll just
Speaker 1: put some more zeros in there in the in the
Speaker 1: government computers and you'll have more fed coin, you see.
Speaker 1: So they'll try the same scam of FIAT with with
Speaker 1: e currencies, but that's not gonna work. That's going to fail,
Speaker 1: just as hard as you know Fiat fella reserve money
Speaker 1: eventually fails. So yeah, I think that they're going to
Speaker 1: look for any kind of cunning, perceptive motivations to try
Speaker 1: to sell people on some other you know, stupid ass
Speaker 1: you know, empty fed coin.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I saw a video this morning at six in the
Speaker 4: morning here but when I wake up, and as a
Speaker 4: lady for the A C B and she's talking about
Speaker 4: benefits to their CBDC, their ecurrency. And I don't know
Speaker 4: if that video just got released, but I've been saying
Speaker 4: the same talking points for a long time. They're really
Speaker 4: trying to sell it to people, and in their marketing
Speaker 4: material this lady's speaking, she's like, there'll be a limit
Speaker 4: basically on the amount of coins that you hold in
Speaker 4: your wallet, which sounds like they're limiting people savings Like
Speaker 4: that doesn't sound like a good thing, but they're trying
Speaker 4: to sell this as a good thing for consumer protection.
Speaker 4: I'd like to get your thoughts on that, and then
Speaker 4: I want to totally flip gears down another rabbit hole.
Speaker 1: J Yeah, that's exactly what the head of the BIS said.
Speaker 1: He came out in the video, or one of the spokespeople,
Speaker 1: that guy with like fourteen chins like that big old,
Speaker 1: gigantic dude, came out and said that when the cbdc
Speaker 1: rolls out, it's going to be great because it's a
Speaker 1: centralized wallet. This was his selling point. I kid you
Speaker 1: not whereby we will control and watch all of your transactions.
Speaker 1: I don't know why that would be. He literally thought
Speaker 1: that would be a stub. Maybe he was just giving
Speaker 1: it as a selling point to other global elitists, right, like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that is a great selling point. Nobody's gonna
Speaker 1: buy that. That's gonna be ridiculous. It's going to fail
Speaker 1: unless they make everybody so completely stupid that they fall
Speaker 1: for that. I mean, that's you know, that's part of
Speaker 1: the the dumbing down and all that. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I think there's just really no competitor to what
Speaker 1: is offered through you know, particularly bitcoin. I just don't
Speaker 1: see how they're going to have any selling point. But
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right that the b I S guy has
Speaker 1: exact same selling point as everybody else for e currencies,
Speaker 1: and so they're just behind. Right. So they're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this was way ahead of time. We can't stop it quick,
Speaker 1: Let's come up.
Speaker 5: With some kind of system.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they don't even realize that it's not even
Speaker 1: going to be able to compete.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I guess the biggest tikeway for everyone is stack sets
Speaker 4: and absolutely shell.
Speaker 5: You've gone down some crazy rabbit holes.
Speaker 4: Jail link your I already have linked your Twitter below
Speaker 4: as well as your YouTube channel. I had this discussion
Speaker 4: as a heated debate with my wife yesterday that they them.
Speaker 5: Whoever we call that. I'd like you to explain who
Speaker 5: you think.
Speaker 4: They are trying to ban books, probably number one. And
Speaker 4: then you said something saying aliens for psychological warfare and
Speaker 4: how this ties in with Bill Gates and mosquitoes.
Speaker 5: If you can wait, wait.
Speaker 1: Go back a little bit, because you're Australian threw me off.
Speaker 4: Comedian in the house, a funny man. Everyone you can
Speaker 4: check out Jay's live show. He's an absolute who.
Speaker 5: Banning banning books?
Speaker 4: Who would I am trying to What type of books
Speaker 4: are I trying to ban?
Speaker 5: Let's stop start with that day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was interesting because it reminded me of certain
Speaker 1: passages in Bertin Russell in particularly Impact of Science on Society,
Speaker 1: which he wrote in nineteen fifty or fifty one. In
Speaker 1: that book, he I mean, he's famously right technocratic socialists,
Speaker 1: fabian socialists, et cetera. He wrote that in the technocratic
Speaker 1: world order, you won't be reading Shakespeare, the Bible books.
Speaker 1: You'll be banned. He says that only government approved individuals
Speaker 1: will have the ability to go and even look at
Speaker 1: Shakespeare or the Bible whatever.
Speaker 5: What.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I shared that on my Twitter so you can see.
Speaker 1: You can see the page from Bertin Russell where he
Speaker 1: says this. And he says this because if you remember
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty four when Orwell is writing about you
Speaker 1: know how you can't read any of that literature, or
Speaker 1: if you read Bradbury's Fahrenheit four fifteen one, I mean,
Speaker 1: particularly in Orbell's case, Ingsock is in the novel it
Speaker 1: stands for English socialism. He's talking about the Fabian Socialist
Speaker 1: Society and their future plan. So we saw recently a
Speaker 1: year ago I think was some of the first calls
Speaker 1: to ban particularly James Bond, and this was out of
Speaker 1: the UK. It's always out of the UK first and
Speaker 1: then it kind of spills out elsewhere, but the ban
Speaker 1: was at that point. Oh, you know, Ian Fleming's literature
Speaker 1: has racial stereotypes, etc. This kind of stuff. We've seen
Speaker 1: US based education groups and committees call for the banning
Speaker 1: of things like Mark Twain because of the terminologies that
Speaker 1: are used for that time of literature. And then we
Speaker 1: saw more recently another call out of a UK based
Speaker 1: hate monitoring group, which is just another one of these
Speaker 1: you know geo's tried to Yeah, I mean that they
Speaker 1: try to control things and put out these you know,
Speaker 1: they consult government and put out these warnings and say, well,
Speaker 1: now Tolkien's Lord of the Rings, now what else is
Speaker 1: in there? Or Well's nineteen eighty four and oddly enough
Speaker 1: Brave New World, which I mean, I guess they were
Speaker 1: too stupid to realize that Aldo Sucks actually believes in
Speaker 1: their positions. So but they just assume that because it's
Speaker 1: a novel about the dystopia that therefore it must be
Speaker 1: it's a doorway to far right extremism, is what they
Speaker 1: call it. So basically, anything that tells the truth or
Speaker 1: warrants about centralized you know, tyranny is now a radicalizing
Speaker 1: you know, gateway drug basically is what they they So
Speaker 1: it needs to be banned. But they've been calling for
Speaker 1: this banning for a long time. And it's not just
Speaker 1: the you know, literature that might be considered gateway drug
Speaker 1: to right wing I mean they've been calling for the
Speaker 1: banning of movies now which have you know, jokes about
Speaker 1: gay people or whatever, or races. All of that's now
Speaker 1: some sort of violation of a moral code, which these
Speaker 1: people don't even believe in moral codes anyways. There's no
Speaker 1: objective morality according to these people. But also we have
Speaker 1: to ban all these things because they are immoral.
Speaker 4: It's crazy. And they're even re editing Roll Dahl's books
Speaker 4: as well children's books.
Speaker 1: I forgot that great example.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, isn't that insane?
Speaker 4: Like on my show, every single day, I say, read
Speaker 4: the books or read the bugs. It is so important.
Speaker 4: Before we went live, you're obviously a massive reader. You're
Speaker 4: telling me how you got into reading and stuff, and man,
Speaker 4: it's a superpower. It is so important to be able
Speaker 4: to literally read the books understand what's going on. People
Speaker 4: will spend their whole lives accumulating wealth, knowledge and condensing
Speaker 4: it down into something that's that thick Bitcoin evangelism. It's
Speaker 4: a great book, but whatever book it is, and for
Speaker 4: somebody to have the audacity to take a book away,
Speaker 4: it's absolutely insane, Like it's the maddest world there ever is.
Speaker 4: So I definitely urge everyone to buy hard copies of
Speaker 4: books and storm and it makes absolutely no sense reading.
Speaker 5: It's probably one of the greatest things in the world.
Speaker 4: So something that you brought up way off topic, but
Speaker 4: aliens for psychological warfare. We saw whatever happened in Miami.
Speaker 4: You could probably talk about it a whole lot better
Speaker 4: than me. And they saw the sketchy twitter picks looks
Speaker 4: like a total sile that is happening, Like aliens, Man,
Speaker 4: what's going on here.
Speaker 1: It's funny because the supposed alien landing from a few
Speaker 1: months ago was like New Mexico and or were our
Speaker 1: Arizona and there was a cholo dude calling in a man.
Speaker 1: We got like we got like some foods out in
Speaker 1: the yard or whatever, like you better send some cops.
Speaker 1: And then and then now they're visiting our African American
Speaker 1: friends and in Miami, and the brothers are basically just running.
Speaker 1: So it's like two different attitudes, right, I'm joking, But
Speaker 1: those are the two, you know, most recent alien visitation stories.
Speaker 1: But both of these events, to me are are pretty laughable.
Speaker 1: Not to say that I know everything what's about what's
Speaker 1: going on in these events, but yeah, I did a
Speaker 1: lot of research on this many years ago. I think
Speaker 1: everybody who first kind of wakes up to conspiracy rabbit
Speaker 1: hole stuff you do, typically have a face of thinking, well,
Speaker 1: maybe aliens exist.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: I'll look at this and I remember first thinking maybe
Speaker 1: aliens exist in two thousand and five or six, and
Speaker 1: but I never found it convincing. And the more that
Speaker 1: I read it, I read a lot of the alien
Speaker 1: proponent people too, like high Neck and these different people.
Speaker 1: And then I read more about psychological warfare, and I
Speaker 1: think the first thing I watched that really changed my
Speaker 1: mind or solidified my views on the subject was there's
Speaker 1: a great documentary called Mirage Men and Osman is an
Speaker 1: interview with a lot of people from counterintelligence and disinformation
Speaker 1: operations from the Air Force, and they talk about how
Speaker 1: in certain cases they were using the alien myth to
Speaker 1: engage in basically deflection and and misinformation on purpose. It's
Speaker 1: everybody to watch that documentary first. And then I had
Speaker 1: some friends of Collins brothers who are twin brothers that
Speaker 1: wrote really massive book on the history of UFO alien
Speaker 1: stuff as psychological warfare operations. And so their thesis is
Speaker 1: basically that it's it's a way for the establishment to
Speaker 1: give everybody a replacement narrative now that the biblical narrative,
Speaker 1: the history of you know, Western religious traditions are breaking
Speaker 1: down so by design, so they want to give it
Speaker 1: give a new mythos which they control and which fits
Speaker 1: into the technocratic agenda. So I don't think that the
Speaker 1: New World Order has to use the alien myth. If
Speaker 1: people don't on a maskill accept the belief in aliens
Speaker 1: and whatnot, they won't go with that, they'll go with
Speaker 1: something else. But I think it's one of the potential
Speaker 1: religious tools, religious engineering tools that they are experimenting with
Speaker 1: and that they're trying to use. And that's why we
Speaker 1: see from the very beginning back to the nineteen fifties,
Speaker 1: intimate relationships between the Pentagon the military is, particularly the
Speaker 1: CIA and the alien phenomenon. I mean, for example, the
Speaker 1: first famous abductee, Georgia Damski history later came out as
Speaker 1: exposed as basically being cribbed from some goofy sci fi
Speaker 1: novel at the time. Yeah, and it just happened to
Speaker 1: be like, oh, I was taken up on a Venusian
Speaker 1: ship and they had giant titties like Marilyn Monroe, and
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, this story doesn't sound very plausible. But
Speaker 1: why would Alan Dulles, CIA director threaten anybody who would
Speaker 1: question Georgia Damski with a lawsuit? So we have the
Speaker 1: head of the CIA basically running point for this, you know, goofy,
Speaker 1: goofball character who ended up in a bunch of weird
Speaker 1: cults and into a bunch of esoterica, you know, alchemy
Speaker 1: and whatnot. To me, that suggests and the Collins Brothers
Speaker 1: highlight this in their book invoking the Beyond, you know,
Speaker 1: again very shady deep state involvement. We have Rand Corporation
Speaker 1: papers from the same time period discussing the effects of
Speaker 1: this idea. In my second book. I put a white
Speaker 1: Brookings Institute paper, which is one of the premier thing tanks.
Speaker 1: They wrote a white paper for NASA in the late
Speaker 1: sixties explaining how the UFO alien phenomena would have a
Speaker 1: tremendous effect on the Western psyche if it was revealed,
Speaker 1: and then it would destroy Christianity basically. So we know
Speaker 1: that they have this mindset of studying the phenomena from
Speaker 1: its social engineering effects, and I think that's a much
Speaker 1: more plausible explanation than anything that is put forward as
Speaker 1: this really flimsy, blurry evidence of this or that dot
Speaker 1: floating around in it, you know, from nineteen sixties level
Speaker 1: camera technology. It's just it's just ludicrous. I mean, we've
Speaker 1: not seen anything substantial. And again, maybe maybe there is
Speaker 1: some you know, non human life form that we just
Speaker 1: have or cryptid or something like that, like a chupa
Speaker 1: cabra like. Maybe we just haven't seen it yet or
Speaker 1: discovered it yet until now. That's possible. But even if
Speaker 1: there is some new cup of cabra like, that doesn't
Speaker 1: prove that it's an alien life form from the Pleiades, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's another non sequit or maybe it's just
Speaker 1: a cryptid that's based on Earth that we haven't discovered yet,
Speaker 1: or maybe it's a phenomena that we don't understand yet,
Speaker 1: so we don't there's all these leaps that are made,
Speaker 1: right like, because we can't explain it. Therefore aliens from
Speaker 1: another planet? Right?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Well, I spend seven years in the Great Barrier reef
Speaker 4: diving and cattlefish.
Speaker 5: Do you know what a cuttlefish is? They like, they
Speaker 5: sort of look like a squid.
Speaker 1: But that doesn't seem plausible to me.
Speaker 5: So again, it was a dumb joke.
Speaker 1: I said, did you get hired? That seems implausible. No,
Speaker 1: it's a dad joke. Sorry, go ahead, you were diving
Speaker 1: for seven years?
Speaker 4: Yeah, make sure you joined Jay Dyer's comedy show Ladies
Speaker 4: and Gentlemen.
Speaker 5: Good show.
Speaker 1: Now he's again questioning whether it's even comedy. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: my wife likes marine creatures. That's the only way that
Speaker 1: I know what a cuddlefish.
Speaker 4: They change shape and color, and if you move your
Speaker 4: fingers or whatever, they will change their thing.
Speaker 5: They're crazy.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: If there's aliens on planet Earth, the cuttlefish are the aliens.
Speaker 4: These things are so intelligent, they're as smart as an
Speaker 4: OCTOPI and they look at you directly and they'll mimic you,
Speaker 4: and they just crazy man without having any narcotics. That
Speaker 4: looks like a psychedelic trip watching them when you're you're
Speaker 4: present with them.
Speaker 1: So what's the go on YouTube? It's a big YouTube channel.
Speaker 5: Slap han No, I'll check it out.
Speaker 1: You're reminding me of slaptown. He's always talking about crypt
Speaker 1: He's like, he's like, today we're going to be looking
Speaker 1: at some cryptis here, Hello, and tell me you think
Speaker 1: this as a real crypto. And so I feel like
Speaker 1: now that we're on this topic, I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: talking to Flaptown. I'm just.
Speaker 4: You're doing good with your assie accent to tight to
Speaker 4: title together, otherwise we're going to go into some crazy journeys.
Speaker 5: The US it's getting totally out of control.
Speaker 4: Is this a large, last ditch effort by the contillionaires
Speaker 4: to print as much money as they can, currency as
Speaker 4: they can. It's no longer money, get all the hard assets,
Speaker 4: remove the middle class, put everyone into the lower class
Speaker 4: end up with the hardest assets as we get to
Speaker 4: the final straw of collapsing the financial system or why
Speaker 4: off ice is it speculation? What are your thoughts on that,
Speaker 4: and then I guess wrap that up with how, in
Speaker 4: your opinion, bitcoin may be a solution for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. My good friend is Colonel Douglas McGregor's son, Cameron McGregor.
Speaker 1: If you've watched a lot of the interviews that Tucker's
Speaker 1: done with Colonel Douglas McGregor, you'll know that. If you
Speaker 1: go to my channel you can see Cameron and I
Speaker 1: have done some interviews and his focus is really on
Speaker 1: the economy, economics, and masculinity too. But he does some
Speaker 1: really good in depth dives into explaining how the guarantocracy
Speaker 1: that exists in Washington again really is out of touch.
Speaker 1: He's a big bitcoin proponent too. He'd be a good
Speaker 1: guy to have on your podcast if you're looking for somebody.
Speaker 1: But his theory is that, yeah, that they've they've really
Speaker 1: gone crazy and they've cooked the goose when it comes
Speaker 1: to running this just insane Fiat money system, and that
Speaker 1: there's not really anything to to fix it with. And
Speaker 1: we've seen multiple banks in the last couple of years,
Speaker 1: you know, going under. We've seen a lot of collapses,
Speaker 1: not just like FTX, but in the actual you know,
Speaker 1: hardcore trad fight banking sphere, so he thinks that this
Speaker 1: is really just the beginning of the end. Actually two
Speaker 1: thousand and eight financial crisis was really the initial trigger,
Speaker 1: but we're still feeling the effects of that trigger that collapse.
Speaker 1: By the way, that's there's a good close connection between
Speaker 1: jeff Stein mcgeffrey in the two thousand and eight financial
Speaker 1: crisis if people don't know, if you read the Whitney WebBook.
Speaker 1: But that's a different rabbit hole. But yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that we're going to see more and more of these
Speaker 1: banks going under. We're going to see more and more
Speaker 1: even if Trump gets in. I mean, there's really you know,
Speaker 1: limited things that Trump could do with what Bobo has
Speaker 1: done to the economy with with his insane inflation numbers,
Speaker 1: and I could I mean, as somebody living in the US,
Speaker 1: I can tell you that, like whatever the government tells
Speaker 1: you about their inflations that is totally not true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's like North Korea level, Like they'll just
Speaker 1: lie and be like, oh, it's the greatest economy ever
Speaker 1: a three percent inflation. It's like, no, dude, Like eggs
Speaker 1: cost like three times what they calls you know, when
Speaker 1: Trump was president, right.
Speaker 4: They literally changed own I measured a CPI there you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just just lies. Lies. So I think that
Speaker 1: that's going to get worse. I don't see any way
Speaker 1: to fix that. Cameron thinks that there will probably be
Speaker 1: some kind of a major economic crisis in the next
Speaker 1: year or two. That seems very likely. How that exactly
Speaker 1: exactly that would flesh out, I don't know, But yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any hard fixed. People always talk
Speaker 1: about gold, and I think, I mean, there might be
Speaker 1: some pros to gold, but I don't think the Internet
Speaker 1: is going away. And you know, there's so many limitations
Speaker 1: to gold. There's so many problems with gold that in
Speaker 1: an information age, bitcoin just makes way more sense than gold.
Speaker 1: Gold is also kind of boring in this sense, like
Speaker 1: it what gains do we really get in gold? Not
Speaker 1: a lot, right, I mean, So if you're looking for
Speaker 1: a way to you know, allogate some of your money
Speaker 1: I'm not giving financial life, then you probably do want
Speaker 1: something like bitcoin, at least part of your I mean
Speaker 1: my view is like it makes absolutely perfect sense when
Speaker 1: you study it and understand it. For people that don't
Speaker 1: understand it, I would say, just go watch a bunch
Speaker 1: of Michael Saylor's lectures. He explains it very well from
Speaker 1: an engineering perspective, maybe not so much from a you know,
Speaker 1: people think financial stuff and finance terms and all this
Speaker 1: finance bros. It's kind of like a bunch of wizardry
Speaker 1: that gets people just you know, they're scared of the
Speaker 1: words and the terms, the math. But just go watch
Speaker 1: some basic metaphysical philosophical explanations from an engineer. I think
Speaker 1: he makes the most sense to you know, reaching kind
Speaker 1: of common sense, practical thinking guys particularly out there. So
Speaker 1: so yeah, for me, bitcoin makes perfect sense because it's
Speaker 1: it's got all of the qualities that government currencies don't have, right,
Speaker 1: and it's got the positive side of gold that gold lacks.
Speaker 1: So it's ethical money, it's hard money, hardest money. It's decentralized,
Speaker 1: it's private and public in a perfect way in terms
Speaker 1: of the ledger, in terms of what you hold. So
Speaker 1: I think it's just an amazing genius invention that providentially
Speaker 1: solves so many of mankind's economic problems over the millennia.
Speaker 1: Because most economic problems revolve around the ability of centralized
Speaker 1: powers to manipulate the currency. It's just that simple. So
Speaker 1: here we have a situation where if you understand the
Speaker 1: philosophy of bigcoin, and my training is as a philosophy guy,
Speaker 1: then you understand that this is really kind of like
Speaker 1: it's almost like neoplatonic money. It's like a way to
Speaker 1: store energy over time. I like that explanation from Michael
Speaker 1: Saylor without using or without depleting that energy. And really
Speaker 1: Fiat currencies centralized, uh you know, made up currencies, they
Speaker 1: deplete energy over time through through inflation, which is really
Speaker 1: just theft. So it's well, it is volatile, especially in
Speaker 1: this early we're still early in this early thaing, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's volatile, but yes, so what I mean Fiat currencies
Speaker 1: are volatile. They always in a volatile Yeah, we know,
Speaker 1: we know what volatility that's going through. So so yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we're at an amazing inflection point, a juncture
Speaker 1: where you can actually take worthless money and put it
Speaker 1: into something that is not worthless that will continue to
Speaker 1: have value, uh, perpetually.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent agree And even being Si Terra, everything
Speaker 4: on planet Earth and the solar system is energy. Bitcoin's
Speaker 4: just stored energy, you know, I see it as title
Speaker 4: truth being absolutely an amazing conversation I'd like to carry
Speaker 4: it on, but where can people find can you get more?
Speaker 5: What are some of the things that you're up to.
Speaker 4: We'll put your books and the description below after the
Speaker 4: live stream as well.
Speaker 5: So the Flora is yours man. Thanks so much for
Speaker 5: coming on.
Speaker 1: Thank you dude. Yeah, it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: You can find me under my name pretty much anywhere
Speaker 1: that you know. There's social media on Instagram, YouTube. I
Speaker 1: don't really use Facebook, that's too boomer for me. I
Speaker 1: hate it. But yeah, you can find me on Twitter.
Speaker 1: You can find me every Friday hosting the fourth hour
Speaker 1: of the Alexi Jon't show over at bandt Video or
Speaker 1: inforce dot com. Also on x you can get my books.
Speaker 1: I have two books on philosophy. One of those philosophy
Speaker 1: books is a big fat geopolitical text as well. It's
Speaker 1: about six hundred pages. You can find that at my
Speaker 1: website in the shop Jasonalsis dot com. My wife has
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Speaker 1: And then I have two books on Hollywood estir Calliwood
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Speaker 1: And working What am I working on? I do a
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Speaker 5: Love it, man, that's Spain. Such a pleasure.
Speaker 4: I'll put all your links below and I'd love to
Speaker 4: have this conversation again.
Speaker 5: It's been absolutely fascinating. Thank you dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anytime.
Speaker 5: Cheers everyone, have beautiful day, be blessed peace,