Speaker 1: You have this anti movement.
Speaker 2: What we are seeing is a revolution against the system.
So fixing the present system is not enough. Now it is,
of course.
Speaker 3: A anti system, just called the Bocalianism, which means to
tear down everything.
Speaker 1: Which creates.
Speaker 2: Some kind of influence of government into private lives.
Speaker 1: It's the mantling the system.
Speaker 2: And we see certain elements of sis now in the
new US administration.
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Speaker 5: Jane, Let's dive into.
Speaker 4: The pit of evil that is the Builderberg Group, the Rothchilds,
the World Economic Forum, the fed, Klau, Schwab and Larry Fink.
Speaker 5: But in the context of predictive programming, misinformation, the financial
collapse unfolding, what is going on with the recent elitist
meetings that have been happening around the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, predicted programming is an interesting angle to come
at that with, because if you don't know what that is,
that's the idea that a lot of fiction, a lot
of movies, a lot of you know, even perhaps music
at times that it conditions the public. And so we've
been indoctrineeded. We've been subjected to pretty sophisticated levels and
types of propaganda, everything from subliminals to you know, predictive
elements within the fiction that kind of prepares and conditions
us for the world that the technocratically want to roll out.
So a classic example of this would be somebody like H. G. Wells.
We go back to his writings The New World Order,
other books that he wrote, even particularly the nonfiction, not
so much the fiction, even though that has a predictive
element too. HG. Wells was saying that we're going to
have this technocratic world order that rolls out. It's a
socialistic technocratic order, Fabian socialism, et cetera. But he said
that the way that we really need to reach the
public is through the propaganda the t in fiction. So
he wrote a lot of books, were of the Worlds,
Island of Doctor Moreau, and many others that were all
about this future scientific dictatorship. A kind of a scientism
is basically a religion to these people. So they want
to roll that out right and then conditioning everybody too,
basically accepting it at some future point. So the fascinting
thing about out Wells is that what you read in H. G.
Wells back in the thirties, what you read in Bertrand
Russell back in the twenties, thirties and forties, it's the
exact same thing that Klaus puts into his books today.
So when we read Fourth Industrial Revolution by Klaus, which
I've lectured through, we find out, hey, he's saying the
exact same thing that one hundred years or earlier Wells and
Russell said. So we know that it is an actual
plan that's rolled out. And I think these yearly meetings
that we see like the World Government seven A Summit
or World Economic Form Davos, these are really just kind
of public unveilings. They're coming out of the clauset. So
it be telling us what they really think and what
they really want and what has actually been planned for
a really long time, and that is again, to have
a single world currency, a single world religion, a single
world government, a single order that everyone else submits to
and then whatever is useful to get people into that
order is the thing that they do. So they're not
necessarily committed to one single ideaology like classical Marxism or
something like that. They'll utilize, as hgu Well says, monopoly, capitalism, socialism, Marxism, fascism,
anything that seems to work at the time to their ends.
They'll use those to get to the final stage, which
is ultimately kind of a massy population, as the world
that I Inform itself says in their videos drastically reducing
the population. And other elite writers that I talk about too,
like Jacques Attali in his book Brief History of the Future.
He's known as the Kissinger of France. Attily says that
we're going to create a global brain. We're going to depopulate.
Everybody's gonna be hooked in the matrix, and that's how
we'll all be in com pods and we'll all be
controlled in that way. So whether it's Klaus, whether it's Jacquettilli,
or whether it's a hundred year ago, it's the same
plan and the origins of this you mentioned Bilderberg, Yeah,
I mean Klaus comes out of the history being in
this big steering committee group kind of created by the
Rockefellers and Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands back in the
middle of the the last century. This was a post
Cold War idea. Excuse me, after World War Two. They
came up with the idea to create these steering committees
kind of modeled on the roundtable groups of England, modeled
on which are modeled on, which results in the councilor
Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission. And so those are
the people who found Klaus and said, hey, let's give
this guy a committee. Let's put him over here. No, literally,
that's what happened like that. It's called the Harvard Research Project.
And this was a Kissinger idea to put Klaus and
other people in just another one of many many steering
committee you know in geo type groups.
Speaker 5: That's absolutely crazy.
Speaker 4: So they've started this plan like one hundred years ago,
and we're having all these public meetings now are they
closer to their objective? Claud Schwub talks about twenty thirty
being a key date things ramping up. We'll dive into
bitcoin and stuff shortly, because you talked about one world currency,
but are they getting a little bit more confident, and
is that why we're seeing them on the main stage
and they're sort of prepping us for what they think
will happen by twenty thirty, or they haven't been successful
up until now, and it may take them a whole
lot longer to roll this out than they would like.
Speaker 1: I think there's two things going on. On the one hand,
they think that they've been successful in a lot of
their designs and a lot of their agendas, so globalization
is a big part of this. They think that they've
made tremendous strides in that arena through World War One,
World War two, in the Cold War. This is really
the thesis of a doctor Carroll Quigley's book, Tragy and Hope,
which I've lectured through. This really explains the purpose of
the two world Wars and the Cold War was really
to try to eventually get us to this one world
order that they want to see. Now, there's a lot
of roadblocks still in the way that they haven't gotten
over yet. Some of those would be currency, some of
those would be the maintenance of nation states that still
exists that they haven't completely destroyed yet. And one of
those courses the United States and then the Western ideas
in general, rule by law. These kinds of things have
to be gotten rid of. Other things stand in a way,
like religion that they talk about quite often too. People
have to be given a new kind of world religion,
and so any remaining religious traditions have to be kind
of diluted and destroyed. That's another big part of the
puzzle that that they overlook, you know, things that stand
in the way, like having international committees that can bypass
you know, national governments in terms of health laws. That's
another big thing. That's a huge deal. We saw that,
you know, being brought to the fore in the last
three years of the koof crisis. Really have these you know,
these international bodies with actual authority, and they've been trying
to put these international bodies into place for a long time.
After World War One, it was the League of Nations.
Quickly says that failed, and so we had World War
Two to bring about United Nations. The United Nations has
never never really had a lot of force behind it.
So I think they'd like to get to a stage
where some international body does have an actual, you know,
standing army and force behind it to enforce their decisions.
So that's the long plan. And you mentioned I'm glad
you mentioned twenty thirty. They actually have actuaries for twenty
thirty twenty twenty fifty, and this is in all their writings.
So atally, as I mentioned, he talked about what they
want by twenty forty twenty fifty. You know Klaus and
his videos that they that they put out a few
years ago that went viral, which they subsequently took down.
By the way, I don't know why they would want
to put it out there now, but basically they put
that video out. You know, the eight things to expect
by twenty thirty according to the WEF, and it was
the United States will lose its place in terms of
Western dominance. You'll eat a lot less meat aka e zuboges.
There will be a movement towards a greater multipolarity, which
in their terminology, they don't mean it in the same
way that you know Putin or Eurasian do you'll political
leaders mean They mean it in the sense of a
one world government that has like decreased America's standing in
the world order. So it goes on to talk about
more open borders, It talks about greater centralized control, less
of a market economy that we even have now, and
basically reized technocratic order will bring your food, your underwear
or whatever. They talk about a circular economy. That's another
big thing. This is just kind of a classic communist
idea that I'm gonna, you know, share my whitey tidies
with all the people in my neighborhood. I'm not gonna
have my own white tidy underwear. You don't need your
own care of underwear. You can all share the underwear
in the neighborhood. So literally, that's what they say. You
to Alcinsho's a big World Economic Forum circular economy theorist,
and that's what they say. Everything will be shared, want
you'll own nothing, you'll have nothing to be happy, et cetera.
So that's where they want to take us. The things
that stand in the way are nation states. Rule of
law stands in the way, religion stands in the way.
And I do believe a big is a problem. And
that's why we find people talking about cryptocurrencies from the
World Economic Forum. They're always wanting something that's completely centralized.
So any of the decentralized protocols or cryptos. They don't.
It's not really useful to them, and particularly you know
Bigcoin of course is the king of crypto, the true
ethical money, and so no, they don't like that at all.
Speaker 4: I wasn't going to take the conversation here straight away,
but we may as well dive into bitcoin. Larry Finks
obviously entered the race with the ATS and they've been
acquiring minors for many, many years. Is there a sinister
agenda here with Blackrock potentially, or are they just here
for the number go up and turn fees as people
by the ETF and they're just happy to hold the
bitcoin in behalf of investors or does this tie in
with Blackrock the way everyone else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of speculation there. I don't know
exactly what their motivations are. I think my suspicion would
be that it's beyond just making profits or looking for gains.
I think that if you look at the what what
they propose with their various regulations of the DEI, all
that kind of stuff, that to me suggests that no,
it is more about social control. And we have interviews
with Larry Fink talking about you know, we're gonna make
you act right, you know this kind of stuff, We're
gonna put this down your throat. So that to me
suggests no more of an agenda than just you know,
getting gains. So what exactly the plans are in terms
of what they acquire in the short term, I don't know,
but my guess would be that they would like to
have as much influence as possible. I mean, even if
they bought as much as they could, I mean, I
don't I mean, I don't know that they could even
dump everything that they bought in one day to destroy.
But I mean, that's the theories that people come up with, is, oh,
they're going to buy all this and they're gonna dump
it destroy But I don't think that would destroy bitcoin.
I don't see how that would would happen. I mean,
I'm not like a tech guru master, I don't know
a lot of this stuff in terms of the logistics
of it. But it doesn't seem probable to me that
that would be the way that you could try to
destroy bitcoin. But maybe that that is an end goal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like the most likely if they were
to do something would be to hard fork it. But
people that are holding the original bitcoin end up with
bitcoin and the new fork anyway, so it's probably not
the worst thing. I think it's more just about the
control potentially for people that are holding those e TIFs.
But I guess we'll see how it plays out. Klaub
Schwab talks about cyber attacks. Obviously, Bitcoin lives in cyberspace.
I've know you've gone into conversations talking about EMPs and
the like. What's so they're like training for cyber attacks.
They did this before the pan demic in regards to viruses,
and then the virus came out a couple of months later.
Now they're talking about cyber attacks. We've got the US
elections this year, they're talking about disease X and cyber
polygon as well. How's all this tie in, I guess
into the potential year he cast twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this question gets ask a lot. I don't actually
know how real one MP attack would be in the
sense of I mean, you'd have to presumably release many
e MPs over the entire continental United States or North America.
I don't think that. I don't think there's one GoldenEye
e m P. Like if you watch the old you know,
the Pierce Brosen and James Bond GoldenEye. That's about an
EMP attack, and the idea is that there's a you know,
satellite thing that corresponds with the ground based terminal that
can you know, destroy one entire continent's electrical capabilities. I mean,
I don't think that exists. That's more James Bond level stuff.
So how real and how effective that would be, I
don't know. But even in the case of a scenario
where we did go back to like eighteen hundred's era
stuff where let's say for a time period the internet
went down or the power grid went down, I mean
it would only be in a certain region. It wouldn't
be everywhere. And also they didn't spend all this time
and effort putting the tech grid into place to shut
it down, right. I mean, Class makes a big point
in the last third of his book, Fourth and Dual
Revolution talking about the sky knit grid and the Internet
of things. Well, you can't have the Internet of things
if you try to destroy everything and take us back
to the little house on the prairie. But so I
think that if there was that kind of a scenario,
it would be a limited time where they tried to
engage in some kind of regionalized warfare to shut down
a country's electrical capabilities. It would eventually come back. So,
you know, bitcoin is it's like, you know, like the
old boom Er joke about you know, is the bitcoin?
Is my email still there if my computer's off? Right?
I mean it doesn't. Bitcoin's not going anywhere, even if
the if the Internet in a certain region went down, right,
So we're talking about a globally decentralized you know, ten
thousand hubs or whatever are supposed to be the idea
of the decentralized ledger for bitcoins. Even if the Internet
went down. You know, it's not going away. But I
think the danger would be the crises that they want
to try to utilize or cause or co opt. Those
crises would be to move us into trying to accept
something like UBI fed coin, something like this like, oh,
you know, America's economy collapses. Oh well, you know, log
on here and get your you know, government wallet, Get
get Biden bucks, right, download some Biden bucks from your
fed coin you know, wall or whatever. So and then
that might be a sort of an enticement to try
to lure people into a UBI. We know Zuckerberg. All
these people have talked about how they would love how
a UBI everybody on some sort of you know, Facebook
government doll But I mean, I just don't think that
will work. Those plans always fail in history, but they
might cause a lot of damage trying to try to
push it through.
Speaker 4: Yeah, do you see that as the most likely Like
bitcoin came out, I think they ignored it for so long,
it built up a pretty large user base in the
market cap, and I think it looks like they sort
of just wake up one day and like, oh, this
thing is here. Are they panicking because of bitcoin? Has
that pushed them to advance their gender and CBDCs and
the like of that? And are they just going to
continue with the fud campaign against bitcoin?
Speaker 5: Like they can't stop it now.
Speaker 4: They can close the on ramps onto it as much
as possible, but not globally people are just going to
go to where they're money is welcome. But how the
sab A says come into the mix in relation to bitcoin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're absolutely right there. The idea is, Okay,
we can't stop this now. A lot of those people
still have a boomer mindset, like they think of it
as I don't know, like Pokemon trading cards or it's
this thing that terrorists do. And I mean they still
think in the fud from ten years ago about bitcoin,
but they have realized I think, like you said, Tradfi
has realized, Okay, we can't stop this. So their typical
motivation in situations in the past, I think where something
arises that they feel like they can't stop, is well,
now we've got to buy into it and control it
and manipulate it. So that's I think the move they're
going for. I don't think they'll actually succeed in doing that.
I think you're only really that's only going to propel
and exponentially expose more people to the idea of bitcoin.
And then what will happen is and they're trying to
do this already, I think, is to figure out ways
to offer some other thing. But they don't. They still
understand the superiority here, what we have with the hardest
money ever in terms of bitcoin. So all of their
their old scams are not really gonna work on a masco,
I don't think, right, because the old scams are always
based on Fiat and so any kind of new uh
you know, fed coin or something like that. It's it's
just going to be a an electronic version of FIAT
where they can say, oh, well, you know, we'll just
put some more zeros in there in the in the
government computers and you'll have more fed coin, you see.
So they'll try the same scam of FIAT with with
e currencies, but that's not gonna work. That's going to fail,
just as hard as you know Fiat fella reserve money
eventually fails. So yeah, I think that they're going to
look for any kind of cunning, perceptive motivations to try
to sell people on some other you know, stupid ass
you know, empty fed coin.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I saw a video this morning at six in the
morning here but when I wake up, and as a
lady for the A C B and she's talking about
benefits to their CBDC, their ecurrency. And I don't know
if that video just got released, but I've been saying
the same talking points for a long time. They're really
trying to sell it to people, and in their marketing
material this lady's speaking, she's like, there'll be a limit
basically on the amount of coins that you hold in
your wallet, which sounds like they're limiting people savings Like
that doesn't sound like a good thing, but they're trying
to sell this as a good thing for consumer protection.
I'd like to get your thoughts on that, and then
I want to totally flip gears down another rabbit hole.
Speaker 1: J Yeah, that's exactly what the head of the BIS said.
He came out in the video, or one of the spokespeople,
that guy with like fourteen chins like that big old,
gigantic dude, came out and said that when the cbdc
rolls out, it's going to be great because it's a
centralized wallet. This was his selling point. I kid you
not whereby we will control and watch all of your transactions.
I don't know why that would be. He literally thought
that would be a stub. Maybe he was just giving
it as a selling point to other global elitists, right, like,
oh yeah, that is a great selling point. Nobody's gonna
buy that. That's gonna be ridiculous. It's going to fail
unless they make everybody so completely stupid that they fall
for that. I mean, that's you know, that's part of
the the dumbing down and all that. But yeah, I
think I think there's just really no competitor to what
is offered through you know, particularly bitcoin. I just don't
see how they're going to have any selling point. But
you're absolutely right that the b I S guy has
exact same selling point as everybody else for e currencies,
and so they're just behind. Right. So they're like, Okay,
this was way ahead of time. We can't stop it quick,
Let's come up.
Speaker 5: With some kind of system.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they don't even realize that it's not even
going to be able to compete.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I guess the biggest tikeway for everyone is stack sets
and absolutely shell.
Speaker 5: You've gone down some crazy rabbit holes.
Speaker 4: Jail link your I already have linked your Twitter below
as well as your YouTube channel. I had this discussion
as a heated debate with my wife yesterday that they them.
Speaker 5: Whoever we call that. I'd like you to explain who
you think.
Speaker 4: They are trying to ban books, probably number one. And
then you said something saying aliens for psychological warfare and
how this ties in with Bill Gates and mosquitoes.
Speaker 5: If you can wait, wait.
Speaker 1: Go back a little bit, because you're Australian threw me off.
Speaker 4: Comedian in the house, a funny man. Everyone you can
check out Jay's live show. He's an absolute who.
Speaker 5: Banning banning books?
Speaker 4: Who would I am trying to What type of books
are I trying to ban?
Speaker 5: Let's stop start with that day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was interesting because it reminded me of certain
passages in Bertin Russell in particularly Impact of Science on Society,
which he wrote in nineteen fifty or fifty one. In
that book, he I mean, he's famously right technocratic socialists,
fabian socialists, et cetera. He wrote that in the technocratic
world order, you won't be reading Shakespeare, the Bible books.
You'll be banned. He says that only government approved individuals
will have the ability to go and even look at
Shakespeare or the Bible whatever.
Speaker 5: What.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I shared that on my Twitter so you can see.
You can see the page from Bertin Russell where he
says this. And he says this because if you remember
in nineteen eighty four when Orwell is writing about you
know how you can't read any of that literature, or
if you read Bradbury's Fahrenheit four fifteen one, I mean,
particularly in Orbell's case, Ingsock is in the novel it
stands for English socialism. He's talking about the Fabian Socialist
Society and their future plan. So we saw recently a
year ago I think was some of the first calls
to ban particularly James Bond, and this was out of
the UK. It's always out of the UK first and
then it kind of spills out elsewhere, but the ban
was at that point. Oh, you know, Ian Fleming's literature
has racial stereotypes, etc. This kind of stuff. We've seen
US based education groups and committees call for the banning
of things like Mark Twain because of the terminologies that
are used for that time of literature. And then we
saw more recently another call out of a UK based
hate monitoring group, which is just another one of these
you know geo's tried to Yeah, I mean that they
try to control things and put out these you know,
they consult government and put out these warnings and say, well,
now Tolkien's Lord of the Rings, now what else is
in there? Or Well's nineteen eighty four and oddly enough
Brave New World, which I mean, I guess they were
too stupid to realize that Aldo Sucks actually believes in
their positions. So but they just assume that because it's
a novel about the dystopia that therefore it must be
it's a doorway to far right extremism, is what they
call it. So basically, anything that tells the truth or
warrants about centralized you know, tyranny is now a radicalizing
you know, gateway drug basically is what they they So
it needs to be banned. But they've been calling for
this banning for a long time. And it's not just
the you know, literature that might be considered gateway drug
to right wing I mean they've been calling for the
banning of movies now which have you know, jokes about
gay people or whatever, or races. All of that's now
some sort of violation of a moral code, which these
people don't even believe in moral codes anyways. There's no
objective morality according to these people. But also we have
to ban all these things because they are immoral.
Speaker 4: It's crazy. And they're even re editing Roll Dahl's books
as well children's books.
Speaker 1: I forgot that great example.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, isn't that insane?
Speaker 4: Like on my show, every single day, I say, read
the books or read the bugs. It is so important.
Before we went live, you're obviously a massive reader. You're
telling me how you got into reading and stuff, and man,
it's a superpower. It is so important to be able
to literally read the books understand what's going on. People
will spend their whole lives accumulating wealth, knowledge and condensing
it down into something that's that thick Bitcoin evangelism. It's
a great book, but whatever book it is, and for
somebody to have the audacity to take a book away,
it's absolutely insane, Like it's the maddest world there ever is.
So I definitely urge everyone to buy hard copies of
books and storm and it makes absolutely no sense reading.
Speaker 5: It's probably one of the greatest things in the world.
Speaker 4: So something that you brought up way off topic, but
aliens for psychological warfare. We saw whatever happened in Miami.
You could probably talk about it a whole lot better
than me. And they saw the sketchy twitter picks looks
like a total sile that is happening, Like aliens, Man,
what's going on here.
Speaker 1: It's funny because the supposed alien landing from a few
months ago was like New Mexico and or were our
Arizona and there was a cholo dude calling in a man.
We got like we got like some foods out in
the yard or whatever, like you better send some cops.
And then and then now they're visiting our African American
friends and in Miami, and the brothers are basically just running.
So it's like two different attitudes, right, I'm joking, But
those are the two, you know, most recent alien visitation stories.
But both of these events, to me are are pretty laughable.
Not to say that I know everything what's about what's
going on in these events, but yeah, I did a
lot of research on this many years ago. I think
everybody who first kind of wakes up to conspiracy rabbit
hole stuff you do, typically have a face of thinking, well,
maybe aliens exist.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: I'll look at this and I remember first thinking maybe
aliens exist in two thousand and five or six, and
but I never found it convincing. And the more that
I read it, I read a lot of the alien
proponent people too, like high Neck and these different people.
And then I read more about psychological warfare, and I
think the first thing I watched that really changed my
mind or solidified my views on the subject was there's
a great documentary called Mirage Men and Osman is an
interview with a lot of people from counterintelligence and disinformation
operations from the Air Force, and they talk about how
in certain cases they were using the alien myth to
engage in basically deflection and and misinformation on purpose. It's
everybody to watch that documentary first. And then I had
some friends of Collins brothers who are twin brothers that
wrote really massive book on the history of UFO alien
stuff as psychological warfare operations. And so their thesis is
basically that it's it's a way for the establishment to
give everybody a replacement narrative now that the biblical narrative,
the history of you know, Western religious traditions are breaking
down so by design, so they want to give it
give a new mythos which they control and which fits
into the technocratic agenda. So I don't think that the
New World Order has to use the alien myth. If
people don't on a maskill accept the belief in aliens
and whatnot, they won't go with that, they'll go with
something else. But I think it's one of the potential
religious tools, religious engineering tools that they are experimenting with
and that they're trying to use. And that's why we
see from the very beginning back to the nineteen fifties,
intimate relationships between the Pentagon the military is, particularly the
CIA and the alien phenomenon. I mean, for example, the
first famous abductee, Georgia Damski history later came out as
exposed as basically being cribbed from some goofy sci fi
novel at the time. Yeah, and it just happened to
be like, oh, I was taken up on a Venusian
ship and they had giant titties like Marilyn Monroe, and
it's like, Okay, this story doesn't sound very plausible. But
why would Alan Dulles, CIA director threaten anybody who would
question Georgia Damski with a lawsuit? So we have the
head of the CIA basically running point for this, you know, goofy,
goofball character who ended up in a bunch of weird
cults and into a bunch of esoterica, you know, alchemy
and whatnot. To me, that suggests and the Collins Brothers
highlight this in their book invoking the Beyond, you know,
again very shady deep state involvement. We have Rand Corporation
papers from the same time period discussing the effects of
this idea. In my second book. I put a white
Brookings Institute paper, which is one of the premier thing tanks.
They wrote a white paper for NASA in the late
sixties explaining how the UFO alien phenomena would have a
tremendous effect on the Western psyche if it was revealed,
and then it would destroy Christianity basically. So we know
that they have this mindset of studying the phenomena from
its social engineering effects, and I think that's a much
more plausible explanation than anything that is put forward as
this really flimsy, blurry evidence of this or that dot
floating around in it, you know, from nineteen sixties level
camera technology. It's just it's just ludicrous. I mean, we've
not seen anything substantial. And again, maybe maybe there is
some you know, non human life form that we just
have or cryptid or something like that, like a chupa
cabra like. Maybe we just haven't seen it yet or
discovered it yet until now. That's possible. But even if
there is some new cup of cabra like, that doesn't
prove that it's an alien life form from the Pleiades, right,
I mean, that's another non sequit or maybe it's just
a cryptid that's based on Earth that we haven't discovered yet,
or maybe it's a phenomena that we don't understand yet,
so we don't there's all these leaps that are made,
right like, because we can't explain it. Therefore aliens from
another planet? Right?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Well, I spend seven years in the Great Barrier reef
diving and cattlefish.
Speaker 5: Do you know what a cuttlefish is? They like, they
sort of look like a squid.
Speaker 1: But that doesn't seem plausible to me.
Speaker 5: So again, it was a dumb joke.
Speaker 1: I said, did you get hired? That seems implausible. No,
it's a dad joke. Sorry, go ahead, you were diving
for seven years?
Speaker 4: Yeah, make sure you joined Jay Dyer's comedy show Ladies
and Gentlemen.
Speaker 5: Good show.
Speaker 1: Now he's again questioning whether it's even comedy. Yeah, no,
my wife likes marine creatures. That's the only way that
I know what a cuddlefish.
Speaker 4: They change shape and color, and if you move your
fingers or whatever, they will change their thing.
Speaker 5: They're crazy.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: If there's aliens on planet Earth, the cuttlefish are the aliens.
These things are so intelligent, they're as smart as an
OCTOPI and they look at you directly and they'll mimic you,
and they just crazy man without having any narcotics. That
looks like a psychedelic trip watching them when you're you're
present with them.
Speaker 1: So what's the go on YouTube? It's a big YouTube channel.
Speaker 5: Slap han No, I'll check it out.
Speaker 1: You're reminding me of slaptown. He's always talking about crypt
He's like, he's like, today we're going to be looking
at some cryptis here, Hello, and tell me you think
this as a real crypto. And so I feel like
now that we're on this topic, I feel like I'm
talking to Flaptown. I'm just.
Speaker 4: You're doing good with your assie accent to tight to
title together, otherwise we're going to go into some crazy journeys.
Speaker 5: The US it's getting totally out of control.
Speaker 4: Is this a large, last ditch effort by the contillionaires
to print as much money as they can, currency as
they can. It's no longer money, get all the hard assets,
remove the middle class, put everyone into the lower class
end up with the hardest assets as we get to
the final straw of collapsing the financial system or why
off ice is it speculation? What are your thoughts on that,
and then I guess wrap that up with how, in
your opinion, bitcoin may be a solution for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. My good friend is Colonel Douglas McGregor's son, Cameron McGregor.
If you've watched a lot of the interviews that Tucker's
done with Colonel Douglas McGregor, you'll know that. If you
go to my channel you can see Cameron and I
have done some interviews and his focus is really on
the economy, economics, and masculinity too. But he does some
really good in depth dives into explaining how the guarantocracy
that exists in Washington again really is out of touch.
He's a big bitcoin proponent too. He'd be a good
guy to have on your podcast if you're looking for somebody.
But his theory is that, yeah, that they've they've really
gone crazy and they've cooked the goose when it comes
to running this just insane Fiat money system, and that
there's not really anything to to fix it with. And
we've seen multiple banks in the last couple of years,
you know, going under. We've seen a lot of collapses,
not just like FTX, but in the actual you know,
hardcore trad fight banking sphere, so he thinks that this
is really just the beginning of the end. Actually two
thousand and eight financial crisis was really the initial trigger,
but we're still feeling the effects of that trigger that collapse.
By the way, that's there's a good close connection between
jeff Stein mcgeffrey in the two thousand and eight financial
crisis if people don't know, if you read the Whitney WebBook.
But that's a different rabbit hole. But yeah, I think
that we're going to see more and more of these
banks going under. We're going to see more and more
even if Trump gets in. I mean, there's really you know,
limited things that Trump could do with what Bobo has
done to the economy with with his insane inflation numbers,
and I could I mean, as somebody living in the US,
I can tell you that, like whatever the government tells
you about their inflations that is totally not true. Yeah,
I mean it's like North Korea level, Like they'll just
lie and be like, oh, it's the greatest economy ever
a three percent inflation. It's like, no, dude, Like eggs
cost like three times what they calls you know, when
Trump was president, right.
Speaker 4: They literally changed own I measured a CPI there you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just just lies. Lies. So I think that
that's going to get worse. I don't see any way
to fix that. Cameron thinks that there will probably be
some kind of a major economic crisis in the next
year or two. That seems very likely. How that exactly
exactly that would flesh out, I don't know, But yeah,
I don't think there's any hard fixed. People always talk
about gold, and I think, I mean, there might be
some pros to gold, but I don't think the Internet
is going away. And you know, there's so many limitations
to gold. There's so many problems with gold that in
an information age, bitcoin just makes way more sense than gold.
Gold is also kind of boring in this sense, like
it what gains do we really get in gold? Not
a lot, right, I mean, So if you're looking for
a way to you know, allogate some of your money
I'm not giving financial life, then you probably do want
something like bitcoin, at least part of your I mean
my view is like it makes absolutely perfect sense when
you study it and understand it. For people that don't
understand it, I would say, just go watch a bunch
of Michael Saylor's lectures. He explains it very well from
an engineering perspective, maybe not so much from a you know,
people think financial stuff and finance terms and all this
finance bros. It's kind of like a bunch of wizardry
that gets people just you know, they're scared of the
words and the terms, the math. But just go watch
some basic metaphysical philosophical explanations from an engineer. I think
he makes the most sense to you know, reaching kind
of common sense, practical thinking guys particularly out there. So
so yeah, for me, bitcoin makes perfect sense because it's
it's got all of the qualities that government currencies don't have, right,
and it's got the positive side of gold that gold lacks.
So it's ethical money, it's hard money, hardest money. It's decentralized,
it's private and public in a perfect way in terms
of the ledger, in terms of what you hold. So
I think it's just an amazing genius invention that providentially
solves so many of mankind's economic problems over the millennia.
Because most economic problems revolve around the ability of centralized
powers to manipulate the currency. It's just that simple. So
here we have a situation where if you understand the
philosophy of bigcoin, and my training is as a philosophy guy,
then you understand that this is really kind of like
it's almost like neoplatonic money. It's like a way to
store energy over time. I like that explanation from Michael
Saylor without using or without depleting that energy. And really
Fiat currencies centralized, uh you know, made up currencies, they
deplete energy over time through through inflation, which is really
just theft. So it's well, it is volatile, especially in
this early we're still early in this early thaing, Yeah,
it's volatile, but yes, so what I mean Fiat currencies
are volatile. They always in a volatile Yeah, we know,
we know what volatility that's going through. So so yeah,
I think we're at an amazing inflection point, a juncture
where you can actually take worthless money and put it
into something that is not worthless that will continue to
have value, uh, perpetually.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent agree And even being Si Terra, everything
on planet Earth and the solar system is energy. Bitcoin's
just stored energy, you know, I see it as title
truth being absolutely an amazing conversation I'd like to carry
it on, but where can people find can you get more?
Speaker 5: What are some of the things that you're up to.
Speaker 4: We'll put your books and the description below after the
live stream as well.
Speaker 5: So the Flora is yours man. Thanks so much for
coming on.
Speaker 1: Thank you dude. Yeah, it was a lot of fun.
You can find me under my name pretty much anywhere
that you know. There's social media on Instagram, YouTube. I
don't really use Facebook, that's too boomer for me. I
hate it. But yeah, you can find me on Twitter.
You can find me every Friday hosting the fourth hour
of the Alexi Jon't show over at bandt Video or
inforce dot com. Also on x you can get my books.
I have two books on philosophy. One of those philosophy
books is a big fat geopolitical text as well. It's
about six hundred pages. You can find that at my
website in the shop Jasonalsis dot com. My wife has
her books there as well, in the Jason Elsis shop.
And then I have two books on Hollywood estir Calliwood
one Sir Colllywood two. Those are also in the shop.
And working What am I working on? I do a
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I lecture through a lot of these big, boring global
elite books that you see behind me. A lot of
people have time to read books like that, so we were,
you know, talking about the importance of reading. So if
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Speaker 5: Love it, man, that's Spain. Such a pleasure.
Speaker 4: I'll put all your links below and I'd love to
have this conversation again.
Speaker 5: It's been absolutely fascinating. Thank you dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anytime.
Speaker 5: Cheers everyone, have beautiful day, be blessed peace,