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Speaker 2: Dan, if you're going to fight.
Speaker 1: For truth, justice and the American way, you have to
Speaker 1: start by fighting for the unborn, You've got to start
Speaker 1: by fighting for innocent human life before birth. And today's
Speaker 1: opening is just a perfect example of that, right because
Speaker 1: the undeniable science, and you're going to love what's coming.
Speaker 1: By the way, you do not see this coming. It
Speaker 1: is so fresh, it is so different. It's just such
Speaker 1: another way of pointing out the obvious that abortion takes
Speaker 1: an innocent human life.
Speaker 2: And this comes from a Democrat. But here's the point.
Speaker 2: Here's the point.
Speaker 1: You know, this position that that abortion on demand should
Speaker 1: be legal throughlabor and delivery is one of the most
Speaker 1: anti science positions in human history, let alone being anti
Speaker 1: basic morality, et cetera. And the example we get today
Speaker 1: is once again from a Democrat state legislator in Colorado.
Speaker 1: She's from I know you'll be surprised, Boulder. Her name
Speaker 1: is Karen McCormick. And so Karen McCormick is, as I
Speaker 1: understand it, part of pushing.
Speaker 2: A bill that has to do with whether.
Speaker 1: The somebody who has passed away wants to be referred
Speaker 1: to as as the opposite of their true gender, that
Speaker 1: they have a right to do so. Right, So she's
Speaker 1: speaking in favor of that kind of bill. But what
Speaker 1: she does in the process is say something that first
Speaker 1: on its face is just goofy, This idea that, oh,
Speaker 1: somehow these babies who are babies, I mean, they're living humans.
Speaker 1: Somehow these babies are deciding before they're born that well,
Speaker 1: they have a penis, they're really not male. I mean,
Speaker 1: just goofy stuff like that. But as you listen to
Speaker 1: this sound, think about what she's doing. I mean, her
Speaker 1: own party, the Democratic Party, is just that worships at
Speaker 1: the altar of abortion right, completely devoted without compromise, to
Speaker 1: this idea of being able to kill that innocent human life,
Speaker 1: dismember it, cut it apart, burn it, do whatever you
Speaker 1: have to do from their standpoint up until the moment
Speaker 1: it's delivered. Yet she she's saying that her view is no,
Speaker 1: this living human is actually determining that it's not really
Speaker 1: a male despite that penis during the second trimester. So
Speaker 1: how does she reconcile these two different beliefs. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's fascinating to listen to cut one.
Speaker 2: Ryan.
Speaker 3: We know, even from fetal development perspective, that sex is
Speaker 3: defined in the first trimester of pregnancy, whereas the beginnings
Speaker 3: of the sense of gender identity start in the second
Speaker 3: trimester of pregnancy. So certainly often these two things match up,
Speaker 3: but often they don't.
Speaker 1: So the only well, Ryan, the only way you can
Speaker 1: have a sense of gender identity in the second trimester
Speaker 1: a trimester is if you're a living human, right, indeed,
Speaker 1: a living thinking human. Okay, so you know, okay, well,
Speaker 1: I got this appendage that probably makes me a male,
Speaker 1: but I really identify as a female. I mean, so
Speaker 1: it's her position, right, that this is a living, functioning
Speaker 1: human who is now developing this sense that they really
Speaker 1: don't have the gender that their body parts say they are.
Speaker 1: How can anybody mesh that with the idea of oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can kill.
Speaker 2: You can just go in and kill it.
Speaker 4: I don't think those are two reconcilable points stand and
Speaker 4: we would love to have representative McCormick on to elucidatas
Speaker 4: as to where.
Speaker 2: Her possession stands.
Speaker 4: Well, I sent an email as I copied you on,
Speaker 4: and then Kelly has been tasked the phone call.
Speaker 5: Follow up, which he's really good at.
Speaker 2: Hmmmm.
Speaker 1: Well, and that will be certain to happen. But I'm
Speaker 1: trying to remember if we had her on the show before.
Speaker 5: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: I think I have some.
Speaker 1: Vague recollection that maybe we did on some other issue.
Speaker 1: But yeah, hopefully she'll come on, because first I just
Speaker 1: love to talk about that. And you you had a
Speaker 1: great word there. You really are are thesaurus. I wonder
Speaker 1: if you should change your nickname from AI to how
Speaker 1: about Sourus?
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 1: Either would if you weren't already engaged, that would be
Speaker 1: great for you.
Speaker 2: Out there, but thanks appreciate it. Sourus. I mean that
Speaker 2: is a very.
Speaker 5: Powerful thing, soaring, but yes, Sourus.
Speaker 6: I like it's sourus.
Speaker 2: Wow. I think I'm going to maybe trademark den. Yeah,
Speaker 2: let's do it.
Speaker 1: Maybe Kelly could look up whether there's ever been a
Speaker 1: human named sourus. You are, I mean, because you're right,
Speaker 1: it's irreconcilable. So I'd love to have the conversation with
Speaker 1: Representative McCormick about that, But I'd really like to have
Speaker 1: the conversation about where she gets this goofy idea that
Speaker 1: that somehow, somehow, these babies who are full of human right,
Speaker 1: that somehow these babies are deciding even before they're born,
Speaker 1: that they're really not their gender. I just love to
Speaker 1: know where that comes from. And in researching this segment,
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: You'll be shocked to hear that.
Speaker 1: I uh, here's a piece I came across on her
Speaker 1: from Colorado Newsline. State Representative Karen McCormick brings science to lawmaking. Now,
Speaker 1: it's unrelated to today's topic and they'll probably be taking
Speaker 1: that piece down pretty quickly. But I'd love to know
Speaker 1: the science behind this, the science behind this, because if
Speaker 1: you're going to be true to science, the only thing
Speaker 1: you can conclude is that abortion takes an innocent human life.
Speaker 2: It's just at a different stage.
Speaker 1: And if you're going to be true to science, you
Speaker 1: have to acknowledge there is no science anywhere on the
Speaker 1: face of the earth, no matter what somebody's been smoking
Speaker 1: or drinking or token that says that that child is
Speaker 1: deciding before it's born, that it's really not a boy.
Speaker 5: And if it can be.
Speaker 4: So this is this is such a conundrum because let's
Speaker 4: go with it, let's walk down her path that it
Speaker 4: can do that, then it requires brain function, and what
Speaker 4: has brain function a living being? And what should you
Speaker 4: not be able to abort a living being in the
Speaker 4: womb because it's a human at that point, because that's
Speaker 4: brain function. Right now, you decided such a wit.
Speaker 1: Actually had the opening point in the show, right, you
Speaker 1: can't have this sense and we've got to play the
Speaker 1: sound again just because I think people are going to
Speaker 1: enjoy it so much.
Speaker 2: You can't have.
Speaker 1: This sense that or as a realization is what she's
Speaker 1: describing that. Oh no, despite that appendage, I'm really not
Speaker 1: a male. I identify as female unless in fact, you have
Speaker 1: a functioning brain and you're able to analyze that and
Speaker 1: identify differently. So yeah, cut one again.
Speaker 2: Please.
Speaker 3: We know, even from fetal development perspective, that sex is
Speaker 3: defined in the first trimester of pregnancy, whereas the beginnings
Speaker 3: of the sense of gender identity start in the second
Speaker 3: trimester of pregnancy. So certainly often these two things match up,
Speaker 3: but often they don't.
Speaker 1: So do you think they're going to run around of
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party now, because this is what Democrats run
Speaker 1: up against all the time, right, is the pesky science
Speaker 1: like in California where Democrats insist that you have a
Speaker 1: right to kill that child until the child's delivered. Yet,
Speaker 1: if you have to commit a crime against the mother
Speaker 1: not even knowing she's pregnant, and you take the child's
Speaker 1: life before the child's born, you've committed capital murder in California.
Speaker 1: So you know, how do Democrats reconcile that?
Speaker 2: Right? Oh yeah, it's capital murder.
Speaker 1: And the only reason that capital murder statute it's been
Speaker 1: upheld in California is because, yes, as a matter of science,
Speaker 1: that is a living human just happens to be living
Speaker 1: inside the mom for the first nine months.
Speaker 2: That's the only reason they're.
Speaker 1: Able to put people in jail for life in California
Speaker 1: on that charge. But then Democrats say, you have this
Speaker 1: right to kill it as long as you're the mother.
Speaker 1: So how do they reconcile that, mister fun.
Speaker 2: They can't.
Speaker 1: They can't, right, which is why everybody should be so
Speaker 1: happy today because we know that eventually life's going to prevail.
Speaker 1: Right now, you want it to be a whole lot
Speaker 1: sooner and later, and we see the steady march towards
Speaker 1: the pro life position. But yeah, because the facts are
Speaker 1: what they are in the science is what it is.
Speaker 1: In basic morality with or without religion is what it is.
Speaker 1: Then yeah, eventually life's going to prevail because anything else
Speaker 1: is just insane, as we have pointed out to us
Speaker 1: today by Representative Karen McCormick, but in an completely different
Speaker 1: kind of way.
Speaker 2: I did not see this one coming.
Speaker 1: Did you see this coming anytime in your lifetime from anybody?
Speaker 5: No, it's such an own goal too.
Speaker 4: Dan and I talked about it on my show that
Speaker 4: she went so far out on the plank to try
Speaker 4: to justify the trans ideology in utero that she forgot
Speaker 4: about her abortion on demand for any reason or no
Speaker 4: reason at all portion of her ideology.
Speaker 1: Which I'm assuming she has right because she's an elected Democrat,
Speaker 1: But maybe she's the unicorn. Maybe she doesn't have that position.
Speaker 1: So I'm really looking forward to getting her on. But
Speaker 1: one thing we know is what she says in this tape,
Speaker 1: and we'll play it and when we come back, as
Speaker 1: we take texting calls, what she says in this tape
Speaker 1: just completely undermines the Democratic position on abortion. But I'd
Speaker 1: really love to know what her science is for determining
Speaker 1: that these children are deciding they're not really boys and
Speaker 1: girls before birth. I'd love to know where she gets that.
Speaker 1: You're on the Dan Capitlas Show.
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Speaker 2: So love here, give me all of them. Look, see
Speaker 2: that Trump was right about everything. Just came in.
Speaker 1: Somebody said, I said, this was sent in by a fan.
Speaker 5: I said, I think we should make.
Speaker 2: Some of them right, but we were pretty much. You
Speaker 2: won't want are you allowed to take away? Because you'll
Speaker 2: consider and I know him well a.
Speaker 5: Stiff Brian, You're not one. He'll take other things, but.
Speaker 2: Not a free head.
Speaker 6: Always say yes to the president, always.
Speaker 2: Say yes to anybody like one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, see, winning's fun, right, But Ryan, I'm a little disappointed,
Speaker 1: my friend. I mean, after everything we went through leading
Speaker 1: up to the election, we don't have any Dan was
Speaker 1: right about everything. Hats I think it could be done, yes,
Speaker 1: but yes, I do have a preference in color saying
Speaker 1: I was going to say, I was just going to
Speaker 1: ask that, but that would be way too self serving.
Speaker 1: So we are not doing those hats now if somebody
Speaker 1: else wants.
Speaker 2: To do them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But anyway, we're talking about something so fun right now.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not going to believe this stuff. Democrats
Speaker 1: in Colorado the gift that keeps on giving, and.
Speaker 2: So what we have.
Speaker 1: And there are so many of these great moments right
Speaker 1: where even the left has to acknowledge that abortion is
Speaker 1: the taking of an innocent human life. That's a living
Speaker 1: human you're killing, And they acknowledge it. They have to
Speaker 1: in so many different ways, but they'll never give an
Speaker 1: inch on Oh, but you can kill it anyway, right
Speaker 1: So I want to replay this sound just because it's
Speaker 1: it's so thrilling. This is representative Karen McCormick from Bolder
Speaker 1: recognizing that you know child is a living human when
Speaker 1: she says falsely that the child can figure out in
Speaker 1: the second trimester that it's not really a boy or
Speaker 1: girl despite those body parts cut one.
Speaker 3: Please, we know even from fetal development perspective, that sex
Speaker 3: is defined in the first trimester of pregnancy, whereas the
Speaker 3: beginnings of the sense of gender identity start in the
Speaker 3: second trimester of pregnancy. So certainly often these two things
Speaker 3: match up, but often they don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but first of all, sorry, sorry doctor, and she
Speaker 1: has a veterinarian. Sex is gender, right, they're the same thing. Now,
Speaker 1: if somebody decides, hey, I don't like that appendage, and
Speaker 1: I'm going to call myself a girl, knock yourselves out.
Speaker 1: But don't don't ask everybody else to lie about that,
Speaker 1: and don't be teaching kids that's normal. So this brings
Speaker 1: us then to her bill, which which really has to
Speaker 1: be one of the one of the most bizarre bills
Speaker 1: in Colorado history, because as I read it, and I
Speaker 1: hope she comes on and joins us, and if she
Speaker 1: thinks I'm missing something she can tell me. Is I'm
Speaker 1: reading HB twenty five eleven nine Gender Identity Certificate of Death.
Speaker 1: It is requiring under punishment of criminal prosecution. It is
Speaker 1: requiring public officials to lie inoficial public records. I don't
Speaker 1: know how else you read this, Ryan, but what it says,
Speaker 1: and I'll get into the verbatim for people, is Okay,
Speaker 1: let's say, and you know we're all going to go sometime, right,
Speaker 1: but let's say you have a dearly departed on the
Speaker 1: slab right there, and that dearly departed has a penis
Speaker 1: than what the coroner is required to do under the
Speaker 1: threat of criminal prosecution if he won't, is to lie
Speaker 1: on that public record and say the deceased is a
Speaker 1: female as long as the decease left a note or
Speaker 1: filled out a form saying they want to be called
Speaker 1: a female. This has to be Twilight zone, right, Ryan,
Speaker 1: I'm still asleep. This isn't really happening. This is like
Speaker 1: two in the morning.
Speaker 2: Last night, because this can't really be.
Speaker 1: Happening a Colorado law that forces a public official to
Speaker 1: lie on a public document about a medical fact.
Speaker 2: But that is what this bill does.
Speaker 4: And I wanted to ask you this, Stan, because I
Speaker 4: talked to doctor Travis Morrell in my program earlier today
Speaker 4: from a medical standpoint where you just referred to. But
Speaker 4: what about the legal standpoint of this, like we talked
Speaker 4: about with Jack Phillips and Masterpiece cakeshop of it being
Speaker 4: compelled speech for a coroner to fill out a form
Speaker 4: knowing that what that information is is scientifically false, form
Speaker 4: held to enter that information anyway.
Speaker 1: What a brilliant points you make, because then you get
Speaker 1: into multiple layers of First Amendment, right, I mean, they're
Speaker 1: you're affecting, you know, religion, in multiple different ways, including
Speaker 1: it is against most people's religion to lie, right, But
Speaker 1: then you're then you've got the other part of free
Speaker 1: speech as well, separate apart from you know, freedom of
Speaker 1: religion in the First Amendment, which is you have a
Speaker 1: right and this is government speech, right, you have a
Speaker 1: right to not lie. So no, I love that. I
Speaker 1: love that argument. I can't believe for a second that
Speaker 1: this thing would pass and be signed, which probably means
Speaker 1: it's going to pass and be signed. Right, But can
Speaker 1: you can poll us in his run for president and
Speaker 1: we've got duel things going on. Police is running for
Speaker 1: president and I'm planning to be quarterback of QB on
Speaker 1: the Broncos next year. But anyway, can you imagine running
Speaker 1: for presidents saying oh, yeah, no, I signed this law
Speaker 1: and it requires public officials to lie about a medical
Speaker 1: fact in medical documents. Well, one thing I'd love to
Speaker 1: at people brainstorm because we have such a smart audience, right,
Speaker 1: is okay, what could some of.
Speaker 2: The other impacts of this be? So the Colorado Democrats
Speaker 2: get their.
Speaker 1: Way, then public officials have to lie about medical facts,
Speaker 1: indisputable medical facts on medical records. What could some of
Speaker 1: the fallout be from that down the road, whether it's
Speaker 1: intended or unintended consequences. Would love to get your thoughts
Speaker 1: on that. Hey, quick preview. We will have Mike O'Donnell,
Speaker 1: an economist with us after the break to talk about
Speaker 1: some new crime stats that just came out and his
Speaker 1: take on those, which is that, Hey, lots of the
Speaker 1: country getting better, at Colorado not so much.
Speaker 2: So we'll do a quick.
Speaker 1: Hit on that, but then I want to continue this
Speaker 1: conversation Ryan, because it's such an insight, right, It's just
Speaker 1: such an insight in so many different things, including it
Speaker 1: appears the limitless goofiness of the left when it comes
Speaker 1: to this trans issue. And you would have thought after
Speaker 1: election Day, in getting historically spanked across the nation, that
Speaker 1: they'd be giving up the ghost on this, but they're
Speaker 1: doubling down, they are.
Speaker 4: And these are losing positions of diminishing returns.
Speaker 1: Dan.
Speaker 4: I keep thinking back to the Jared Polus point, this
Speaker 4: guy is going to submarine his own presidential campaign before
Speaker 4: it even begins. Between if he signs this into law,
Speaker 4: which will be a lunatic, fringe radical element that's not
Speaker 4: done in any other state. And then also the gun
Speaker 4: grab bill that's probably soon going to make it to
Speaker 4: his desk, although he's trying behind the scenes to water
Speaker 4: it down. He's going to have to run on the
Speaker 4: far left lane and be to the left of Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 1: It seems, yeah, which is not his plan, right. No,
Speaker 1: so he is going to sign that bill. He is
Speaker 1: going to sign that bill. And and I think you're right, well,
Speaker 1: you know, and I don't mean to be mean, but
Speaker 1: it can't really hurt him nationally when he's not going
Speaker 1: to be viable nationally to begin with. But yes, the
Speaker 1: lane he's trying to fabricate, which is this moderate lane
Speaker 1: yet that's not going to work from I'd love to
Speaker 1: hear from you, dam five seven seven three nine.
Speaker 2: What do you make of this bill.
Speaker 1: That would force public officials to lie on death certificates?
Speaker 1: And the latest crime stats for Colorado?
Speaker 2: Next on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 5: You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 2: This is amazing.
Speaker 1: So if at least a few Colorado Democrats get their
Speaker 1: way and they've got a bill moving through the legislature,
Speaker 1: it looks like pretty quick that then you're going to
Speaker 1: be breaking the law if you are, say a corner
Speaker 1: corner's assistant, et cetera, around the state, and it's your
Speaker 1: job to sign these documents.
Speaker 2: After somebody passes away.
Speaker 1: You are subject to criminal prosecution if you write down
Speaker 1: on that death certificate that that is a male who died,
Speaker 1: despite the fact that the body's laying there in front
Speaker 1: of you with all the male parts. If that male
Speaker 1: left a note saying that male is a female, then
Speaker 1: you are breaking the law. If you write down scientifically
Speaker 1: correct facts on that death certificate. It's really truly mind blowing.
Speaker 1: So uh, let's go to the VIP line. I want
Speaker 1: to do a quick detour and then we'll get back
Speaker 1: to this other subject. I see this gentleman online really
Speaker 1: intrigued by some people I respect follow him as well.
Speaker 1: Mike O'Donnell is kind enough to join us. Mike, as
Speaker 1: you know, on Acts, you identify yourself as a legally
Speaker 1: naturalized you as citizen economist and entrepreneurial ecosystem builder charting
Speaker 1: the demise of the US and Colorado economies. So you
Speaker 1: must be the life of every party. My friend and
Speaker 1: I thought I was so welcome to the show.
Speaker 7: Thank you, Dan. Yes, I'm a very exciting person. So
Speaker 7: I don't get invited out too much exactly right.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So so like if you're out at a barbecue and
Speaker 1: somebody says, hey, what do you do?
Speaker 2: I charted the demise of your life? Yes, yes, but
Speaker 2: we're going to want to talk to you. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've been a recent recent issue ever since President
Speaker 7: Biden came into office, have been.
Speaker 2: A recent Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, well, Mike, tell us a little more about yourself
Speaker 1: and then I want to ask you about this post
Speaker 1: you have on the latest FBI crime data. But yeah,
Speaker 1: a little bit more about you if you would.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Well, most of my working career is really being involved
Speaker 7: with helping small businesses and entrepreneurs grow staff and most
Speaker 7: important like break shops, because in a state like cord
Speaker 7: Intacton across the United States, if it wasn't for startups
Speaker 7: croving jobs in this nation, we wouldn't really be creating
Speaker 7: any jobs at all. So that's always been like I've
Speaker 7: run a small business development center at the University of
Speaker 7: Kansas to copership business classes there and then the twenty
Speaker 7: years you're in Colorado iran mission by a nonprofit Colorado
Speaker 7: lending source. So now I'm sort of retired, but on
Speaker 7: my second career running a little nonprofit that helps people
Speaker 7: get access to the Kiva on one program.
Speaker 1: Well, and the accent I'm trying to place it is
Speaker 1: that Boulder County where said a.
Speaker 7: Little bit for the south. It's a little bit south
Speaker 7: of Colorado. Spring Summit's originally from Australia. So that's the
Speaker 7: naturalized American citizen elements of my little posts.
Speaker 2: Well, wonderful and thank you for being with us.
Speaker 1: So your post says, according to the latest st f
Speaker 1: BEHID data, violent crime rates are down eight point one
Speaker 1: percent nationally since twenty seventeen, except in twelve states. And
Speaker 1: then you talk about Colorado, so please pick it up
Speaker 1: from there, my friend.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've seen something that was presented to the Washington
Speaker 7: legislation to do with crime. The chart that I saw
Speaker 7: didn't have a source or any information, so I thought
Speaker 7: to just dig in and see if I could replicate
Speaker 7: that information that someone presented over there. The FBI database
Speaker 7: keeps track of things like violent crimes and property crimes
Speaker 7: and car thefts, and I've been in there before to
Speaker 7: look at car thefts because that obviously effects businesses here
Speaker 7: as well as we individuals have to pay current insurance
Speaker 7: so I jumped in, and I jumped on the database
Speaker 7: to look at trends in terms of violent crime reports.
Speaker 7: And I thought i'd look for the period twenty seventeen
Speaker 7: through to twenty twenty three. Twenty three is the latest
Speaker 7: information twenty seventeen because that was the year before Colorado
Speaker 7: basically got swept by the Democrats. And I, and I'm
Speaker 7: sure all your listeners are familiar with the soft on
Speaker 7: crime approach that Democrat ags have had, you know, for
Speaker 7: many years now, and I was curious to see if
Speaker 7: I could see whether that had an impact in Colorado summer.
Speaker 7: I like to look at numbers and stats and stuff
Speaker 7: like that just because that tells me where we're going
Speaker 7: as a nation in a state. So that was really
Speaker 7: the origin for it. When I looked at twenty seventeen Daughta,
Speaker 7: I saw that Colorado was ranked like twenty first in
Speaker 7: the nation in terms of violent crimes, you know per capita,
Speaker 7: which where you would expect a sort of a mid
Speaker 7: sized state to be. And then in twenty eighteen and
Speaker 7: twenty nineteen weast upped eighteen, and then in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 7: in twenty twenty two or like eight and sixth in
Speaker 7: the nation, and that sort of is an indication of
Speaker 7: the fact that we've really increased our ranking because filent
Speaker 7: crime is increasing sort of exponentially, is so I thought
Speaker 7: i'd take a little bit deeper, and that's where I
Speaker 7: found the plast It's been increasing and the rest of
Speaker 7: the country's actually been improving less violent crime.
Speaker 1: Which makes sense, right, I mean going back to the
Speaker 1: series of laws, and do you say soft on crime?
Speaker 1: And I appreciate at that point, I would say, actually,
Speaker 1: in many examples pro criminal. I think Colorado has a
Speaker 1: lot of flat out Colorado Democratic Party pro criminal legislation.
Speaker 1: So we shouldn't, I guess, be shocked by these numbers.
Speaker 1: We should be horrified, but not shocked.
Speaker 7: No, And again, the population of Colorado hasn't been increasing
Speaker 7: that rapidly. So in twenty seventeen we had twenty thousand
Speaker 7: odd violent crime statistics reported, and twenty twenty three were
Speaker 7: up to twenty seven thousand. We had twenty nine and
Speaker 7: twenty two, So you know, that's been a huge increase
Speaker 7: for a relatively stable population, which is the reason probably
Speaker 7: why I feel less safe I'm driving around.
Speaker 2: In with these types Mike o'donald our guest.
Speaker 1: You can follow at Mike o'donald on x So, Mike,
Speaker 1: at this point, looking at the trend lines you're looking
Speaker 1: at as an economist, where do you expect that line
Speaker 1: to go from here compared to the rest of the nation.
Speaker 7: Well, Washington States well in front of but there are
Speaker 7: states that have very, very high crime rates, and now
Speaker 7: in New Mexico is one of those. I refer to
Speaker 7: those as like third world states. Colorado is trending that direction.
Speaker 7: And this is me looking at the small business and
Speaker 7: entrepreneurship perspective. If we have way too much crime, just
Speaker 7: as we're seeing like in downtown Denver Worth the restaurants,
Speaker 7: that impacts the ability of businesses to generate revenue or
Speaker 7: hire employees. And if that continues, I mean, we have
Speaker 7: other statistics. In Colorado. We are through the last four years,
Speaker 7: have been at the highest inflation rate of any state,
Speaker 7: so we're number one there. Colorado households owe more money
Speaker 7: than people in any other state, so we're number one
Speaker 7: for debt. We look at what's happened in the last
Speaker 7: twelve months. We've lost twenty one and a half thousand
Speaker 7: jobs in Colorado in the last twelve months, and our
Speaker 7: unemployment has increased by thirty six thousand, three hundred dot.
Speaker 7: We have about thirty nine thousand federal workers in the state,
Speaker 7: some of whom will probably go away this year. I mean,
Speaker 7: it's just pointing to the fact that Colorado is not
Speaker 7: in a great position. You know, when we went into
Speaker 7: the Great Recession back in two thousand and seven, two
Speaker 7: thousand and eight, Colorado was one of the strongest states.
Speaker 7: The last one's in and the first one's out. This
Speaker 7: next time, when we have our next recession, which we
Speaker 7: do and we'll have, Colorado is poorly prepared and it
Speaker 7: will be a little bit more challenging for our state
Speaker 7: to get past this next it. So I'm just suggesting
Speaker 7: it's the state could be better prepared. The legislature could
Speaker 7: actually be working on things that help the economy rather
Speaker 7: than trying to fix social issues that aren't really broken.
Speaker 7: And just as you were talking before, and that thing
Speaker 7: about the testifics is silly and stupid. So there are
Speaker 7: things that are more important for the state to be
Speaker 7: focused on in terms of how can we strengthen our
Speaker 7: economy and get ready for whatever comes in the future.
Speaker 1: Well, and Mike, my last question for you in the
Speaker 1: last minute we have together. Is how bizarre that Colorado
Speaker 1: should be facing all of these problems self inflicted right
Speaker 1: on goals, as Ryan would say, when we've been gifted
Speaker 1: with one of the most beautiful places in the world,
Speaker 1: We've been gifted with all these natural advantages. Yet somehow,
Speaker 1: under this leftist rule, we're in the process of blowing
Speaker 1: it all and finishing behind states that can't can't compare
Speaker 1: to us, can't hold our jock.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it really is a tragedy. I'm a relative you
Speaker 7: coming to Colorado, only been here since two thousand, so
Speaker 7: as twenty five years, but it's not the state that
Speaker 7: it was when I moved here in two thousand. Even
Speaker 7: that was a really big year for people moving to Colorado,
Speaker 7: two thousand and one, I think the second biggest on record.
Speaker 7: But now we have people leaving the states and all
Speaker 7: mult people leaving and coming in. That's the pure reflection
Speaker 7: of hell estates being operated by our friends.
Speaker 2: Good, beautiful point, and let's do this.
Speaker 1: Let's get together again soon and then talk about the fix, okay,
Speaker 1: because we know it can be fixed.
Speaker 2: So well for your time today, Mike, thank you for that.
Speaker 7: Michael, thank you take care, take care of that, and
Speaker 7: you can.
Speaker 1: Check them out at Mike o'donald on Twitter X. When
Speaker 1: we come back, Hey, we're going to get back to
Speaker 1: this story. You're gonna love it out of Boulder where
Speaker 1: you have this Boulder Rep. And she's not the only
Speaker 1: Democrat pushing this bill, which would make it a crime
Speaker 1: not to falsify a public record.
Speaker 2: You're on the Dankpla Show.
Speaker 5: And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 8: This whole story makes you wonder how many.
Speaker 2: Of those protests that we covered were real.
Speaker 8: The climate protests that you see, the Hamas stuff on campus,
Speaker 8: we know that was funded.
Speaker 2: BLM.
Speaker 8: Why did that stuff go on even after riots when
Speaker 8: we knew that.
Speaker 5: It was just so destructive?
Speaker 8: These were astroturfed emphasis on ass They're about as organic
Speaker 8: as a twinkie. And you have to understand who's paying
Speaker 8: for we are because if it's Soros funded, it's USAID funded.
Speaker 2: That means we're paying for it.
Speaker 5: And how could you not?
Speaker 2: I mean, thank this is what Joemy nuts and and what.
Speaker 1: He's talking about is you've probably seen some of this
Speaker 1: odd video now that the Left pushes on its newscasts
Speaker 1: of all these people at these meetings with Congress people,
Speaker 1: and they're so outraged about the Doge cuts, and it's like,
Speaker 1: do you know anybody who's outraged about the DOGE cuts?
Speaker 2: I mean, so clearly these.
Speaker 1: Are organized, funded, kind of phony protests, and so they
Speaker 1: don't upset me because if they're not truly grassroots, they
Speaker 1: aren't going to show up on election day.
Speaker 2: They aren't going to affect the outcome of races. But hey, we.
Speaker 1: The most enjoyable stories in a long time today, and
Speaker 1: it is, of course local. It's about a Boulder State
Speaker 1: rep out of I think she's District eleven right Representative,
Speaker 1: Karen McCormick. We're trying to get her on the show.
Speaker 1: And you're going to love this sound that you're about
Speaker 1: to hear, especially if, like me, you're a pro lifer,
Speaker 1: because it's sound of a Colorado Democrat implicitly acknowledging the
Speaker 1: undeniable medical truth that, of course, these are living, growing
Speaker 1: humans that are being killed before birth through abortion. I
Speaker 1: don't think she intends to do that in this clip,
Speaker 1: but she does, and then at the same time floats
Speaker 1: this completely bizarre theory that these kids are deciding even
Speaker 1: before they're born. That they're really not male or female,
Speaker 1: so enjoy it.
Speaker 3: Cut One, we know, even from fetal development perspective, that
Speaker 3: sex is defined in the first trimester of pregnancy, whereas
Speaker 3: the beginnings of the sense of gender identity start in
Speaker 3: the second trimester of pregnancy. So certainly often these two
Speaker 3: things match up, but often they don't.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and obviously you can't have this sense of
Speaker 1: gender identity in this second and semester unless you're thinking human, right,
Speaker 1: which you know these are humans at every stage. So
Speaker 1: thank you for the assists there to Representative McCormick. This
Speaker 1: goofy idea that Okay, now these kids are deciding even
Speaker 1: before they're born, that know they're really a girl even
Speaker 1: though they have male parts, just shows you how extreme
Speaker 1: the left has become on this issue. And it's really
Speaker 1: interesting to look into whatever gottom there, because it's so
Speaker 1: crazy to begin with. And that's not to in any
Speaker 1: way be insensitive to the people out there. And there
Speaker 1: are people out there who are just very uncomfortable with
Speaker 1: the fact that they are a male or a female,
Speaker 1: and there are people out there who are really suffering
Speaker 1: mentally because of that. And I don't mean to in
Speaker 1: any way, you know, be insensitive to them. But the
Speaker 1: point is that we can't lie, we can't say things
Speaker 1: that aren't true because they upset them. There are two genders.
Speaker 1: There are only two genders. That's a matter of provable science.
Speaker 1: And somebody is a male or they're a female. If
Speaker 1: they want to call themselves something else, knock yourselves out.
Speaker 1: Just stay away from the kids. Don't be trying to
Speaker 1: screw up the kids. But we've got to tell the
Speaker 1: truth about these two genders. Now that leads us to
Speaker 1: a bill the same representative is pushing, which is preposterous.
Speaker 1: It's a bill as I read it, and we've invited
Speaker 1: her on. As she thinks I'm wrong about this, you
Speaker 1: can tell us. It would punish with criminal penalties state
Speaker 1: officials who refuse to lie on public documents. It would
Speaker 1: require state officials who have a dead body in front
Speaker 1: of them with male parts to say that was a
Speaker 1: female who was killed if the person who died wanted
Speaker 1: to be called a female. I mean, we'll get into
Speaker 1: the details of it, but it's crazy on so many
Speaker 1: different levels.
Speaker 2: And we have some great text on this. Dan.
Speaker 1: Since the baby knows their gender in the second trimester,
Speaker 1: now we know what box to check on the birth certificate.
Speaker 2: Just asks them as soon as they're born.
Speaker 1: Okay, great point there, Dan, don't let the death certificate
Speaker 1: plus gender things throw you. A baby determines its gender
Speaker 1: in the second trimester, so just ask the baby when
Speaker 1: they're born. You can see the pattern identifying here. Mountain
Speaker 1: Grant parents say, Dan, it's the right of the inseminated
Speaker 1: person to kill the non thinking gender identifying tissue. Let's
Speaker 1: go to Warren in Colorado Springs. You're on the dan
Speaker 1: Kaplis show. Welcome Warren.
Speaker 7: Dan.
Speaker 6: So it seems like the left never really considers the
Speaker 6: ramifications of their actions and even to some of their own.
Speaker 2: Ideals.
Speaker 6: Let's take reproductive help for example health sorry reproductive health
Speaker 6: for example, If they determine that there's something in the
Speaker 6: environment that's causing ovarian cancer and they want to get
Speaker 6: it banned, and so they start looking through death certificates
Speaker 6: to find out who's died from avarian cancer, how's that
Speaker 6: going to go if it's not accurate. Same problem with
Speaker 6: any other kind of is used related to particular biology.
Speaker 6: They start growing with the death certificates. Anytime the government
Speaker 6: wants to do anything, and they need to look in
Speaker 6: the data. They've just destroyed the opportunity to maybe take
Speaker 6: care of the little people that they keep saying that
Speaker 6: they're out there for.
Speaker 2: Just an excellent point, my friend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for that. No, brilliant point, thank you,
Speaker 1: my friend. I think the starting point core problem here,
Speaker 1: right is that we cannot be in the business of
Speaker 1: threatening to punish people with criminal offenses if they tell
Speaker 1: the truth, and we can't be in the business of
Speaker 1: requiring people to lie. And I can't speak to this
Speaker 1: particular representatives motive. I'd love to get her on the
Speaker 1: show and talk about that, but I personally believe that
Speaker 1: the overall motive of the left and pushing this trans
Speaker 1: insanity that all of a sudden, you're a bigot, you're
Speaker 1: all these terrible things if you refuse to lie and
Speaker 1: say that somebody who's a male is actually a female.
Speaker 1: That a big part of that has been just part
Speaker 1: of the overall secular left agenda of forcing people to
Speaker 1: be willing to lie, because once you cross that line
Speaker 1: where in order to be accepted in society ruled by
Speaker 1: the left, you are willing to lie.
Speaker 2: You're willing to adopt a lie, you're willing to bend
Speaker 2: the knee to.
Speaker 1: A lie, then they've really got you, So we'll come
Speaker 1: back continue this conversation much more ahead, President Trump, the
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