WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.520 This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast 2 00:00:03.640 --> 00:00:05.759 edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to 3 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:08.240 give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind, 4 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:11.599 and to subscribe, download, and listen to the show every 5 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:14.759 single day on your favorite podcast platform. 6 00:00:15.720 --> 00:00:17.199 Dan, if you're going to fight. 7 00:00:18.559 --> 00:00:21.640 For truth, justice and the American way, you have to 8 00:00:21.839 --> 00:00:25.760 start by fighting for the unborn, You've got to start 9 00:00:25.839 --> 00:00:31.719 by fighting for innocent human life before birth. And today's 10 00:00:31.920 --> 00:00:36.880 opening is just a perfect example of that, right because 11 00:00:37.320 --> 00:00:40.479 the undeniable science, and you're going to love what's coming. 12 00:00:40.520 --> 00:00:42.359 By the way, you do not see this coming. It 13 00:00:42.679 --> 00:00:45.240 is so fresh, it is so different. It's just such 14 00:00:45.280 --> 00:00:48.840 another way of pointing out the obvious that abortion takes 15 00:00:48.880 --> 00:00:50.039 an innocent human life. 16 00:00:50.119 --> 00:00:52.119 And this comes from a Democrat. But here's the point. 17 00:00:52.880 --> 00:00:53.520 Here's the point. 18 00:00:53.840 --> 00:00:58.960 You know, this position that that abortion on demand should 19 00:00:59.000 --> 00:01:03.359 be legal throughlabor and delivery is one of the most 20 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:08.319 anti science positions in human history, let alone being anti 21 00:01:08.640 --> 00:01:13.400 basic morality, et cetera. And the example we get today 22 00:01:14.079 --> 00:01:21.480 is once again from a Democrat state legislator in Colorado. 23 00:01:21.519 --> 00:01:24.920 She's from I know you'll be surprised, Boulder. Her name 24 00:01:25.120 --> 00:01:30.560 is Karen McCormick. And so Karen McCormick is, as I 25 00:01:30.640 --> 00:01:33.359 understand it, part of pushing. 26 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:36.840 A bill that has to do with whether. 27 00:01:36.959 --> 00:01:42.319 The somebody who has passed away wants to be referred 28 00:01:42.319 --> 00:01:46.439 to as as the opposite of their true gender, that 29 00:01:46.480 --> 00:01:48.439 they have a right to do so. Right, So she's 30 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:52.159 speaking in favor of that kind of bill. But what 31 00:01:52.799 --> 00:01:57.439 she does in the process is say something that first 32 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:01.519 on its face is just goofy, This idea that, oh, 33 00:02:01.560 --> 00:02:05.959 somehow these babies who are babies, I mean, they're living humans. 34 00:02:06.480 --> 00:02:11.479 Somehow these babies are deciding before they're born that well, 35 00:02:11.479 --> 00:02:13.439 they have a penis, they're really not male. I mean, 36 00:02:13.520 --> 00:02:16.879 just goofy stuff like that. But as you listen to 37 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:20.879 this sound, think about what she's doing. I mean, her 38 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:24.680 own party, the Democratic Party, is just that worships at 39 00:02:24.680 --> 00:02:28.960 the altar of abortion right, completely devoted without compromise, to 40 00:02:29.039 --> 00:02:31.840 this idea of being able to kill that innocent human life, 41 00:02:31.879 --> 00:02:34.159 dismember it, cut it apart, burn it, do whatever you 42 00:02:34.199 --> 00:02:38.000 have to do from their standpoint up until the moment 43 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:43.719 it's delivered. Yet she she's saying that her view is no, 44 00:02:43.879 --> 00:02:49.280 this living human is actually determining that it's not really 45 00:02:49.319 --> 00:02:53.080 a male despite that penis during the second trimester. So 46 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:57.439 how does she reconcile these two different beliefs. I mean, 47 00:02:57.479 --> 00:02:59.840 it's fascinating to listen to cut one. 48 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:00.560 Ryan. 49 00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:04.280 We know, even from fetal development perspective, that sex is 50 00:03:04.280 --> 00:03:09.639 defined in the first trimester of pregnancy, whereas the beginnings 51 00:03:09.639 --> 00:03:12.439 of the sense of gender identity start in the second 52 00:03:12.439 --> 00:03:17.400 trimester of pregnancy. So certainly often these two things match up, 53 00:03:17.479 --> 00:03:18.719 but often they don't. 54 00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:23.719 So the only well, Ryan, the only way you can 55 00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:27.159 have a sense of gender identity in the second trimester 56 00:03:27.319 --> 00:03:31.039 a trimester is if you're a living human, right, indeed, 57 00:03:31.120 --> 00:03:34.560 a living thinking human. Okay, so you know, okay, well, 58 00:03:34.599 --> 00:03:37.840 I got this appendage that probably makes me a male, 59 00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:41.759 but I really identify as a female. I mean, so 60 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:47.400 it's her position, right, that this is a living, functioning 61 00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:51.919 human who is now developing this sense that they really 62 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:55.599 don't have the gender that their body parts say they are. 63 00:03:56.360 --> 00:03:59.520 How can anybody mesh that with the idea of oh, yeah, 64 00:03:59.520 --> 00:04:00.159 you can kill. 65 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:01.400 You can just go in and kill it. 66 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:06.000 I don't think those are two reconcilable points stand and 67 00:04:06.039 --> 00:04:10.919 we would love to have representative McCormick on to elucidatas 68 00:04:10.960 --> 00:04:11.879 as to where. 69 00:04:11.680 --> 00:04:12.960 Her possession stands. 70 00:04:13.080 --> 00:04:15.159 Well, I sent an email as I copied you on, 71 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:17.519 and then Kelly has been tasked the phone call. 72 00:04:17.319 --> 00:04:18.680 Follow up, which he's really good at. 73 00:04:18.800 --> 00:04:19.319 Hmmmm. 74 00:04:20.040 --> 00:04:22.720 Well, and that will be certain to happen. But I'm 75 00:04:22.759 --> 00:04:24.959 trying to remember if we had her on the show before. 76 00:04:25.079 --> 00:04:25.680 I don't think so. 77 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:26.560 I think I have some. 78 00:04:26.639 --> 00:04:29.680 Vague recollection that maybe we did on some other issue. 79 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:33.839 But yeah, hopefully she'll come on, because first I just 80 00:04:33.959 --> 00:04:35.879 love to talk about that. And you you had a 81 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:39.759 great word there. You really are are thesaurus. I wonder 82 00:04:39.800 --> 00:04:43.959 if you should change your nickname from AI to how 83 00:04:43.959 --> 00:04:44.800 about Sourus? 84 00:04:45.040 --> 00:04:45.600 I love it. 85 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:48.800 Either would if you weren't already engaged, that would be 86 00:04:48.879 --> 00:04:49.439 great for you. 87 00:04:49.399 --> 00:04:51.800 Out there, but thanks appreciate it. Sourus. I mean that 88 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:53.040 is a very. 89 00:04:52.800 --> 00:04:55.040 Powerful thing, soaring, but yes, Sourus. 90 00:04:55.079 --> 00:04:56.920 I like it's sourus. 91 00:04:57.240 --> 00:05:00.360 Wow. I think I'm going to maybe trademark den. Yeah, 92 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:01.680 let's do it. 93 00:05:01.720 --> 00:05:05.399 Maybe Kelly could look up whether there's ever been a 94 00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:10.079 human named sourus. You are, I mean, because you're right, 95 00:05:10.600 --> 00:05:15.079 it's irreconcilable. So I'd love to have the conversation with 96 00:05:15.160 --> 00:05:18.560 Representative McCormick about that, But I'd really like to have 97 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:24.680 the conversation about where she gets this goofy idea that 98 00:05:24.680 --> 00:05:29.399 that somehow, somehow, these babies who are full of human right, 99 00:05:29.480 --> 00:05:35.040 that somehow these babies are deciding even before they're born, 100 00:05:35.319 --> 00:05:37.800 that they're really not their gender. I just love to 101 00:05:37.800 --> 00:05:40.560 know where that comes from. And in researching this segment, 102 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:40.879 I know. 103 00:05:40.839 --> 00:05:41.959 You'll be shocked to hear that. 104 00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:45.279 I uh, here's a piece I came across on her 105 00:05:45.720 --> 00:05:52.519 from Colorado Newsline. State Representative Karen McCormick brings science to lawmaking. Now, 106 00:05:52.600 --> 00:05:55.720 it's unrelated to today's topic and they'll probably be taking 107 00:05:55.720 --> 00:05:58.879 that piece down pretty quickly. But I'd love to know 108 00:05:58.959 --> 00:06:03.439 the science behind this, the science behind this, because if 109 00:06:03.480 --> 00:06:05.360 you're going to be true to science, the only thing 110 00:06:05.399 --> 00:06:09.839 you can conclude is that abortion takes an innocent human life. 111 00:06:09.879 --> 00:06:11.319 It's just at a different stage. 112 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:14.759 And if you're going to be true to science, you 113 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:17.959 have to acknowledge there is no science anywhere on the 114 00:06:18.079 --> 00:06:20.600 face of the earth, no matter what somebody's been smoking 115 00:06:20.720 --> 00:06:24.639 or drinking or token that says that that child is 116 00:06:24.720 --> 00:06:27.959 deciding before it's born, that it's really not a boy. 117 00:06:29.800 --> 00:06:30.639 And if it can be. 118 00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:33.519 So this is this is such a conundrum because let's 119 00:06:33.560 --> 00:06:35.519 go with it, let's walk down her path that it 120 00:06:35.600 --> 00:06:39.519 can do that, then it requires brain function, and what 121 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:44.160 has brain function a living being? And what should you 122 00:06:44.160 --> 00:06:47.639 not be able to abort a living being in the 123 00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:50.480 womb because it's a human at that point, because that's 124 00:06:50.519 --> 00:06:52.920 brain function. Right now, you decided such a wit. 125 00:06:52.759 --> 00:06:56.199 Actually had the opening point in the show, right, you 126 00:06:56.240 --> 00:06:57.959 can't have this sense and we've got to play the 127 00:06:58.000 --> 00:06:59.680 sound again just because I think people are going to 128 00:06:59.720 --> 00:07:00.519 enjoy it so much. 129 00:07:01.959 --> 00:07:03.000 You can't have. 130 00:07:03.040 --> 00:07:07.160 This sense that or as a realization is what she's 131 00:07:07.199 --> 00:07:11.319 describing that. Oh no, despite that appendage, I'm really not 132 00:07:11.399 --> 00:07:15.040 a male. I identify as female unless in fact, you have 133 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:20.240 a functioning brain and you're able to analyze that and 134 00:07:20.399 --> 00:07:22.720 identify differently. So yeah, cut one again. 135 00:07:22.759 --> 00:07:23.079 Please. 136 00:07:23.519 --> 00:07:26.959 We know, even from fetal development perspective, that sex is 137 00:07:26.959 --> 00:07:32.319 defined in the first trimester of pregnancy, whereas the beginnings 138 00:07:32.319 --> 00:07:35.120 of the sense of gender identity start in the second 139 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:40.120 trimester of pregnancy. So certainly often these two things match up, 140 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:41.399 but often they don't. 141 00:07:42.800 --> 00:07:44.199 So do you think they're going to run around of 142 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:48.199 the Democratic Party now, because this is what Democrats run 143 00:07:48.279 --> 00:07:52.360 up against all the time, right, is the pesky science 144 00:07:52.800 --> 00:07:56.040 like in California where Democrats insist that you have a 145 00:07:56.120 --> 00:07:58.800 right to kill that child until the child's delivered. Yet, 146 00:07:59.319 --> 00:08:02.120 if you have to commit a crime against the mother 147 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:06.839 not even knowing she's pregnant, and you take the child's 148 00:08:07.079 --> 00:08:13.120 life before the child's born, you've committed capital murder in California. 149 00:08:14.000 --> 00:08:16.279 So you know, how do Democrats reconcile that? 150 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:18.519 Right? Oh yeah, it's capital murder. 151 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:20.759 And the only reason that capital murder statute it's been 152 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:24.240 upheld in California is because, yes, as a matter of science, 153 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:27.360 that is a living human just happens to be living 154 00:08:27.439 --> 00:08:29.439 inside the mom for the first nine months. 155 00:08:29.920 --> 00:08:31.399 That's the only reason they're. 156 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:34.080 Able to put people in jail for life in California 157 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:37.600 on that charge. But then Democrats say, you have this 158 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:39.519 right to kill it as long as you're the mother. 159 00:08:40.399 --> 00:08:43.919 So how do they reconcile that, mister fun. 160 00:08:45.399 --> 00:08:45.919 They can't. 161 00:08:46.279 --> 00:08:49.639 They can't, right, which is why everybody should be so 162 00:08:49.720 --> 00:08:53.960 happy today because we know that eventually life's going to prevail. 163 00:08:54.159 --> 00:08:56.080 Right now, you want it to be a whole lot 164 00:08:56.120 --> 00:09:00.000 sooner and later, and we see the steady march towards 165 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:04.080 the pro life position. But yeah, because the facts are 166 00:09:04.080 --> 00:09:05.759 what they are in the science is what it is. 167 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:08.759 In basic morality with or without religion is what it is. 168 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:12.600 Then yeah, eventually life's going to prevail because anything else 169 00:09:12.720 --> 00:09:16.039 is just insane, as we have pointed out to us 170 00:09:16.039 --> 00:09:22.240 today by Representative Karen McCormick, but in an completely different 171 00:09:22.360 --> 00:09:22.879 kind of way. 172 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:24.960 I did not see this one coming. 173 00:09:25.000 --> 00:09:28.120 Did you see this coming anytime in your lifetime from anybody? 174 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:30.159 No, it's such an own goal too. 175 00:09:30.440 --> 00:09:33.000 Dan and I talked about it on my show that 176 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:35.759 she went so far out on the plank to try 177 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:41.039 to justify the trans ideology in utero that she forgot 178 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:44.240 about her abortion on demand for any reason or no 179 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:47.720 reason at all portion of her ideology. 180 00:09:47.279 --> 00:09:50.360 Which I'm assuming she has right because she's an elected Democrat, 181 00:09:50.399 --> 00:09:53.919 But maybe she's the unicorn. Maybe she doesn't have that position. 182 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:56.600 So I'm really looking forward to getting her on. But 183 00:09:56.679 --> 00:09:59.399 one thing we know is what she says in this tape, 184 00:09:59.399 --> 00:10:00.879 and we'll play it and when we come back, as 185 00:10:00.919 --> 00:10:04.759 we take texting calls, what she says in this tape 186 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:09.799 just completely undermines the Democratic position on abortion. But I'd 187 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:15.600 really love to know what her science is for determining 188 00:10:15.639 --> 00:10:18.720 that these children are deciding they're not really boys and 189 00:10:18.759 --> 00:10:21.080 girls before birth. I'd love to know where she gets that. 190 00:10:21.720 --> 00:10:23.240 You're on the Dan Capitlas Show. 191 00:10:29.679 --> 00:10:34.559 And now back to the Dan Caplas Show podcast. 192 00:10:34.879 --> 00:10:40.879 So love here, give me all of them. Look, see 193 00:10:40.919 --> 00:10:46.159 that Trump was right about everything. Just came in. 194 00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:49.840 Somebody said, I said, this was sent in by a fan. 195 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:52.039 I said, I think we should make. 196 00:10:51.960 --> 00:10:54.759 Some of them right, but we were pretty much. You 197 00:10:54.799 --> 00:10:57.759 won't want are you allowed to take away? Because you'll 198 00:10:57.799 --> 00:11:00.159 consider and I know him well a. 199 00:11:00.159 --> 00:11:05.840 Stiff Brian, You're not one. He'll take other things, but. 200 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:06.440 Not a free head. 201 00:11:06.840 --> 00:11:09.720 Always say yes to the president, always. 202 00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:11.200 Say yes to anybody like one. 203 00:11:12.360 --> 00:11:16.120 Yeah, see, winning's fun, right, But Ryan, I'm a little disappointed, 204 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:19.840 my friend. I mean, after everything we went through leading 205 00:11:19.919 --> 00:11:22.919 up to the election, we don't have any Dan was 206 00:11:23.000 --> 00:11:26.279 right about everything. Hats I think it could be done, yes, 207 00:11:27.759 --> 00:11:31.120 but yes, I do have a preference in color saying 208 00:11:31.159 --> 00:11:32.440 I was going to say, I was just going to 209 00:11:32.480 --> 00:11:35.399 ask that, but that would be way too self serving. 210 00:11:35.559 --> 00:11:38.000 So we are not doing those hats now if somebody 211 00:11:38.000 --> 00:11:38.720 else wants. 212 00:11:38.480 --> 00:11:38.879 To do them. 213 00:11:38.960 --> 00:11:42.600 Yeah, But anyway, we're talking about something so fun right now. 214 00:11:42.720 --> 00:11:45.519 I mean, you're not going to believe this stuff. Democrats 215 00:11:45.519 --> 00:11:48.919 in Colorado the gift that keeps on giving, and. 216 00:11:48.919 --> 00:11:50.120 So what we have. 217 00:11:50.240 --> 00:11:52.000 And there are so many of these great moments right 218 00:11:52.039 --> 00:11:55.240 where even the left has to acknowledge that abortion is 219 00:11:55.320 --> 00:11:58.159 the taking of an innocent human life. That's a living 220 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:01.080 human you're killing, And they acknowledge it. They have to 221 00:12:01.159 --> 00:12:03.240 in so many different ways, but they'll never give an 222 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:05.399 inch on Oh, but you can kill it anyway, right 223 00:12:06.120 --> 00:12:09.080 So I want to replay this sound just because it's 224 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:14.000 it's so thrilling. This is representative Karen McCormick from Bolder 225 00:12:15.399 --> 00:12:18.879 recognizing that you know child is a living human when 226 00:12:18.919 --> 00:12:22.759 she says falsely that the child can figure out in 227 00:12:22.799 --> 00:12:25.919 the second trimester that it's not really a boy or 228 00:12:25.960 --> 00:12:28.000 girl despite those body parts cut one. 229 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:31.679 Please, we know even from fetal development perspective, that sex 230 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:36.679 is defined in the first trimester of pregnancy, whereas the 231 00:12:36.720 --> 00:12:39.720 beginnings of the sense of gender identity start in the 232 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:44.440 second trimester of pregnancy. So certainly often these two things 233 00:12:44.559 --> 00:12:46.320 match up, but often they don't. 234 00:12:46.960 --> 00:12:51.200 Yeah, but first of all, sorry, sorry doctor, and she 235 00:12:51.240 --> 00:12:56.559 has a veterinarian. Sex is gender, right, they're the same thing. Now, 236 00:12:56.559 --> 00:12:59.600 if somebody decides, hey, I don't like that appendage, and 237 00:12:59.639 --> 00:13:02.639 I'm going to call myself a girl, knock yourselves out. 238 00:13:02.679 --> 00:13:05.799 But don't don't ask everybody else to lie about that, 239 00:13:06.600 --> 00:13:10.320 and don't be teaching kids that's normal. So this brings 240 00:13:10.399 --> 00:13:13.919 us then to her bill, which which really has to 241 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:17.279 be one of the one of the most bizarre bills 242 00:13:17.320 --> 00:13:20.000 in Colorado history, because as I read it, and I 243 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:21.759 hope she comes on and joins us, and if she 244 00:13:21.799 --> 00:13:24.440 thinks I'm missing something she can tell me. Is I'm 245 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:29.360 reading HB twenty five eleven nine Gender Identity Certificate of Death. 246 00:13:29.799 --> 00:13:36.039 It is requiring under punishment of criminal prosecution. It is 247 00:13:36.200 --> 00:13:43.879 requiring public officials to lie inoficial public records. I don't 248 00:13:43.879 --> 00:13:46.320 know how else you read this, Ryan, but what it says, 249 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:49.320 and I'll get into the verbatim for people, is Okay, 250 00:13:49.720 --> 00:13:52.799 let's say, and you know we're all going to go sometime, right, 251 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:56.080 but let's say you have a dearly departed on the 252 00:13:56.120 --> 00:14:00.159 slab right there, and that dearly departed has a penis 253 00:14:00.759 --> 00:14:04.519 than what the coroner is required to do under the 254 00:14:04.559 --> 00:14:08.440 threat of criminal prosecution if he won't, is to lie 255 00:14:08.480 --> 00:14:11.200 on that public record and say the deceased is a 256 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:14.360 female as long as the decease left a note or 257 00:14:14.360 --> 00:14:16.039 filled out a form saying they want to be called 258 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:21.039 a female. This has to be Twilight zone, right, Ryan, 259 00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:24.480 I'm still asleep. This isn't really happening. This is like 260 00:14:24.600 --> 00:14:25.840 two in the morning. 261 00:14:25.600 --> 00:14:28.120 Last night, because this can't really be. 262 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:34.080 Happening a Colorado law that forces a public official to 263 00:14:34.240 --> 00:14:37.639 lie on a public document about a medical fact. 264 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:41.159 But that is what this bill does. 265 00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:43.480 And I wanted to ask you this, Stan, because I 266 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:47.039 talked to doctor Travis Morrell in my program earlier today 267 00:14:47.080 --> 00:14:51.039 from a medical standpoint where you just referred to. But 268 00:14:51.120 --> 00:14:54.679 what about the legal standpoint of this, like we talked 269 00:14:54.679 --> 00:14:57.559 about with Jack Phillips and Masterpiece cakeshop of it being 270 00:14:57.679 --> 00:15:01.000 compelled speech for a coroner to fill out a form 271 00:15:01.639 --> 00:15:07.159 knowing that what that information is is scientifically false, form 272 00:15:07.759 --> 00:15:09.600 held to enter that information anyway. 273 00:15:09.799 --> 00:15:12.159 What a brilliant points you make, because then you get 274 00:15:12.200 --> 00:15:15.840 into multiple layers of First Amendment, right, I mean, they're 275 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:21.360 you're affecting, you know, religion, in multiple different ways, including 276 00:15:21.440 --> 00:15:26.039 it is against most people's religion to lie, right, But 277 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:28.360 then you're then you've got the other part of free 278 00:15:28.440 --> 00:15:32.039 speech as well, separate apart from you know, freedom of 279 00:15:32.080 --> 00:15:36.559 religion in the First Amendment, which is you have a 280 00:15:36.679 --> 00:15:39.399 right and this is government speech, right, you have a 281 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:43.000 right to not lie. So no, I love that. I 282 00:15:43.039 --> 00:15:45.879 love that argument. I can't believe for a second that 283 00:15:45.960 --> 00:15:48.759 this thing would pass and be signed, which probably means 284 00:15:48.759 --> 00:15:51.720 it's going to pass and be signed. Right, But can 285 00:15:51.759 --> 00:15:54.919 you can poll us in his run for president and 286 00:15:54.960 --> 00:15:57.279 we've got duel things going on. Police is running for 287 00:15:57.320 --> 00:16:00.039 president and I'm planning to be quarterback of QB on 288 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:04.000 the Broncos next year. But anyway, can you imagine running 289 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:06.320 for presidents saying oh, yeah, no, I signed this law 290 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:10.759 and it requires public officials to lie about a medical 291 00:16:10.840 --> 00:16:14.879 fact in medical documents. Well, one thing I'd love to 292 00:16:14.879 --> 00:16:17.639 at people brainstorm because we have such a smart audience, right, 293 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:20.279 is okay, what could some of. 294 00:16:20.240 --> 00:16:24.240 The other impacts of this be? So the Colorado Democrats 295 00:16:24.240 --> 00:16:24.759 get their. 296 00:16:24.600 --> 00:16:29.399 Way, then public officials have to lie about medical facts, 297 00:16:29.399 --> 00:16:34.120 indisputable medical facts on medical records. What could some of 298 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:37.320 the fallout be from that down the road, whether it's 299 00:16:37.360 --> 00:16:40.960 intended or unintended consequences. Would love to get your thoughts 300 00:16:40.960 --> 00:16:44.320 on that. Hey, quick preview. We will have Mike O'Donnell, 301 00:16:44.440 --> 00:16:47.919 an economist with us after the break to talk about 302 00:16:47.960 --> 00:16:50.399 some new crime stats that just came out and his 303 00:16:50.639 --> 00:16:53.159 take on those, which is that, Hey, lots of the 304 00:16:53.159 --> 00:16:55.480 country getting better, at Colorado not so much. 305 00:16:55.519 --> 00:16:56.399 So we'll do a quick. 306 00:16:56.320 --> 00:16:58.279 Hit on that, but then I want to continue this 307 00:16:58.360 --> 00:17:03.000 conversation Ryan, because it's such an insight, right, It's just 308 00:17:03.080 --> 00:17:06.240 such an insight in so many different things, including it 309 00:17:06.279 --> 00:17:11.720 appears the limitless goofiness of the left when it comes 310 00:17:11.759 --> 00:17:15.000 to this trans issue. And you would have thought after 311 00:17:15.079 --> 00:17:20.319 election Day, in getting historically spanked across the nation, that 312 00:17:20.359 --> 00:17:24.480 they'd be giving up the ghost on this, but they're 313 00:17:24.519 --> 00:17:26.440 doubling down, they are. 314 00:17:26.359 --> 00:17:28.839 And these are losing positions of diminishing returns. 315 00:17:28.920 --> 00:17:29.079 Dan. 316 00:17:29.240 --> 00:17:31.400 I keep thinking back to the Jared Polus point, this 317 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:34.079 guy is going to submarine his own presidential campaign before 318 00:17:34.119 --> 00:17:37.079 it even begins. Between if he signs this into law, 319 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:40.599 which will be a lunatic, fringe radical element that's not 320 00:17:40.599 --> 00:17:42.759 done in any other state. And then also the gun 321 00:17:42.839 --> 00:17:45.000 grab bill that's probably soon going to make it to 322 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:47.759 his desk, although he's trying behind the scenes to water 323 00:17:47.880 --> 00:17:49.880 it down. He's going to have to run on the 324 00:17:49.920 --> 00:17:53.240 far left lane and be to the left of Bernie Sanders. 325 00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:55.799 It seems, yeah, which is not his plan, right. No, 326 00:17:55.920 --> 00:17:58.480 so he is going to sign that bill. He is 327 00:17:58.519 --> 00:18:01.519 going to sign that bill. And and I think you're right, well, 328 00:18:01.960 --> 00:18:03.960 you know, and I don't mean to be mean, but 329 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:06.680 it can't really hurt him nationally when he's not going 330 00:18:06.759 --> 00:18:10.880 to be viable nationally to begin with. But yes, the 331 00:18:10.960 --> 00:18:14.240 lane he's trying to fabricate, which is this moderate lane 332 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:16.319 yet that's not going to work from I'd love to 333 00:18:16.319 --> 00:18:20.480 hear from you, dam five seven seven three nine. 334 00:18:20.839 --> 00:18:22.160 What do you make of this bill. 335 00:18:23.200 --> 00:18:27.000 That would force public officials to lie on death certificates? 336 00:18:27.039 --> 00:18:29.279 And the latest crime stats for Colorado? 337 00:18:29.359 --> 00:18:30.680 Next on the Dan Capla Show. 338 00:18:38.839 --> 00:18:41.200 You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast. 339 00:18:43.319 --> 00:18:44.200 This is amazing. 340 00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:48.359 So if at least a few Colorado Democrats get their 341 00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:50.680 way and they've got a bill moving through the legislature, 342 00:18:50.720 --> 00:18:53.240 it looks like pretty quick that then you're going to 343 00:18:53.279 --> 00:18:56.079 be breaking the law if you are, say a corner 344 00:18:56.519 --> 00:18:58.880 corner's assistant, et cetera, around the state, and it's your 345 00:18:58.960 --> 00:19:00.640 job to sign these documents. 346 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:02.160 After somebody passes away. 347 00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:07.839 You are subject to criminal prosecution if you write down 348 00:19:08.119 --> 00:19:11.839 on that death certificate that that is a male who died, 349 00:19:12.119 --> 00:19:15.240 despite the fact that the body's laying there in front 350 00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:17.839 of you with all the male parts. If that male 351 00:19:17.920 --> 00:19:20.640 left a note saying that male is a female, then 352 00:19:20.680 --> 00:19:25.039 you are breaking the law. If you write down scientifically 353 00:19:25.119 --> 00:19:29.000 correct facts on that death certificate. It's really truly mind blowing. 354 00:19:29.119 --> 00:19:32.319 So uh, let's go to the VIP line. I want 355 00:19:32.359 --> 00:19:34.400 to do a quick detour and then we'll get back 356 00:19:34.440 --> 00:19:38.359 to this other subject. I see this gentleman online really 357 00:19:38.359 --> 00:19:41.440 intrigued by some people I respect follow him as well. 358 00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:44.079 Mike O'Donnell is kind enough to join us. Mike, as 359 00:19:44.119 --> 00:19:47.279 you know, on Acts, you identify yourself as a legally 360 00:19:47.359 --> 00:19:52.000 naturalized you as citizen economist and entrepreneurial ecosystem builder charting 361 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:56.279 the demise of the US and Colorado economies. So you 362 00:19:56.359 --> 00:19:58.720 must be the life of every party. My friend and 363 00:19:58.759 --> 00:20:01.039 I thought I was so welcome to the show. 364 00:20:01.960 --> 00:20:04.279 Thank you, Dan. Yes, I'm a very exciting person. So 365 00:20:04.319 --> 00:20:06.640 I don't get invited out too much exactly right. 366 00:20:07.599 --> 00:20:08.279 Yeah. Yeah. 367 00:20:08.400 --> 00:20:10.599 So so like if you're out at a barbecue and 368 00:20:10.759 --> 00:20:12.839 somebody says, hey, what do you do? 369 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:17.720 I charted the demise of your life? Yes, yes, but 370 00:20:18.599 --> 00:20:20.559 we're going to want to talk to you. Yeah. 371 00:20:20.599 --> 00:20:24.000 Yeah, I've been a recent recent issue ever since President 372 00:20:24.039 --> 00:20:26.000 Biden came into office, have been. 373 00:20:25.880 --> 00:20:27.880 A recent Yeah. 374 00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:29.880 Well, well, Mike, tell us a little more about yourself 375 00:20:29.880 --> 00:20:32.079 and then I want to ask you about this post 376 00:20:32.160 --> 00:20:35.960 you have on the latest FBI crime data. But yeah, 377 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:37.480 a little bit more about you if you would. 378 00:20:38.440 --> 00:20:38.680 Yeah. 379 00:20:38.680 --> 00:20:41.960 Well, most of my working career is really being involved 380 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:47.279 with helping small businesses and entrepreneurs grow staff and most 381 00:20:47.319 --> 00:20:49.920 important like break shops, because in a state like cord 382 00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:53.599 Intacton across the United States, if it wasn't for startups 383 00:20:53.880 --> 00:20:57.400 croving jobs in this nation, we wouldn't really be creating 384 00:20:57.440 --> 00:21:00.519 any jobs at all. So that's always been like I've 385 00:21:01.359 --> 00:21:03.720 run a small business development center at the University of 386 00:21:03.799 --> 00:21:07.799 Kansas to copership business classes there and then the twenty 387 00:21:07.920 --> 00:21:11.599 years you're in Colorado iran mission by a nonprofit Colorado 388 00:21:11.720 --> 00:21:14.759 lending source. So now I'm sort of retired, but on 389 00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:18.119 my second career running a little nonprofit that helps people 390 00:21:18.200 --> 00:21:20.680 get access to the Kiva on one program. 391 00:21:23.079 --> 00:21:25.599 Well, and the accent I'm trying to place it is 392 00:21:25.680 --> 00:21:28.839 that Boulder County where said a. 393 00:21:28.839 --> 00:21:30.880 Little bit for the south. It's a little bit south 394 00:21:30.960 --> 00:21:34.599 of Colorado. Spring Summit's originally from Australia. So that's the 395 00:21:34.960 --> 00:21:39.279 naturalized American citizen elements of my little posts. 396 00:21:40.920 --> 00:21:43.160 Well, wonderful and thank you for being with us. 397 00:21:43.279 --> 00:21:46.400 So your post says, according to the latest st f 398 00:21:46.480 --> 00:21:49.079 BEHID data, violent crime rates are down eight point one 399 00:21:49.160 --> 00:21:53.400 percent nationally since twenty seventeen, except in twelve states. And 400 00:21:53.440 --> 00:21:55.839 then you talk about Colorado, so please pick it up 401 00:21:55.839 --> 00:21:56.599