WEBVTT 1 00:00:08.839 --> 00:00:12.279 Hey, everybody, welcome to Game Mess Mornings with Me Jeff Grub, 2 00:00:12.279 --> 00:00:14.119 your host from giant bomb dot com. 3 00:00:14.880 --> 00:00:15.720 Thank you for tuning in. 4 00:00:15.640 --> 00:00:17.719 In this episode, we're going to be talking about Mario 5 00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:22.039 Kart finally getting that expected Donkey Kong DLC potentially and 6 00:00:22.239 --> 00:00:25.440 a new banjo KAZOOI. What's going on over there? It's 7 00:00:25.480 --> 00:00:27.359 gonna be a good one because we have Jason Bonelli 8 00:00:27.399 --> 00:00:29.079 on the show. Jason, how are you doing? 9 00:00:29.600 --> 00:00:31.960 I am doing great, but do not get my hopes 10 00:00:32.039 --> 00:00:34.439 up at the Bird and Bear coming back. That's mean, 11 00:00:34.479 --> 00:00:35.280 we'll talk about it. 12 00:00:35.280 --> 00:00:37.240 They're already back. It's already happening. 13 00:00:37.240 --> 00:00:40.439 What do you mean, I don't know. We'll see it, 14 00:00:40.439 --> 00:00:43.200 but yeah, things are Things are good. Getting getting ready 15 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:45.759 for my first ever trip to the Game Awards in 16 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:48.640 its current format next week. I'll be out there Wednesday 17 00:00:48.679 --> 00:00:52.679 to Saturday morning doing some game journalism stuff that I'm 18 00:00:52.719 --> 00:00:57.520 very excited about, some cool previews lined up, a opportunity 19 00:00:57.560 --> 00:00:59.840 that I can honestly say I have never done before. 20 00:01:00.119 --> 00:01:02.960 We'll be part of this trip, so we'll leave it 21 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:05.359 at that. And your clue is have you ever watched 22 00:01:05.359 --> 00:01:05.959 Ted Lasso? 23 00:01:06.799 --> 00:01:09.480 I've watched the first season and some of the second. 24 00:01:10.319 --> 00:01:14.920 I'll be Trent krimming, okay with with someone or something 25 00:01:15.040 --> 00:01:19.760 so interesting. Yeah, yeah, okay, that'll be fun, be fun. 26 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:21.599 Well, we'll get you back on afterwards. 27 00:01:21.640 --> 00:01:23.040 When you can't talk about it, you can tell us 28 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:25.000 all about what happened, and yes, we'll do fine. 29 00:01:25.040 --> 00:01:28.000 Find your coverage and all that. Yeah, Jan's gonna be 30 00:01:28.000 --> 00:01:29.040 out there. You hang out with them. 31 00:01:29.439 --> 00:01:32.519 You guys can make hay while the sun shining, which 32 00:01:32.560 --> 00:01:35.400 I hear it does out in LA. That'll yeah, I'll 33 00:01:35.400 --> 00:01:37.079 look looking forward. You guys get a chance to hang 34 00:01:37.120 --> 00:01:40.239 out looking forward to us talking over the game awards here. 35 00:01:40.120 --> 00:01:42.120 At Giant Bomb everybody. That's what we'll be doing the 36 00:01:42.120 --> 00:01:45.439 rest of the crew. That is, you're right, that's next 37 00:01:45.480 --> 00:01:48.120 week less than a week away, right, Yeah. 38 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:51.719 It certainly is. It is six days away. The eleventh 39 00:01:52.120 --> 00:01:55.000 is when everything kicks off down there in a Kille 40 00:01:55.040 --> 00:01:58.599 palooza in LA and the Peacock Theater should be a 41 00:01:58.640 --> 00:02:00.719 good one. I'm sure they'll be playing talk about in 42 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:03.640 the lead up to. I think there's some interesting things 43 00:02:03.680 --> 00:02:05.920 in the pipeline, some interesting things I may or may 44 00:02:05.959 --> 00:02:11.159 not have already seen, that are that are intriguing thought provoking. 45 00:02:11.240 --> 00:02:11.840 I'm excited. 46 00:02:11.919 --> 00:02:12.360 Should we go? 47 00:02:12.439 --> 00:02:14.599 Yep, yeah, I think this will be a big one 48 00:02:14.680 --> 00:02:17.599 as well. You know, if Halflack three really does get announced, 49 00:02:18.319 --> 00:02:21.319 that'll be so huge everything else won't matter. But that's true, 50 00:02:22.159 --> 00:02:25.520 exactly right, we'll see that's it's wild to think that 51 00:02:25.599 --> 00:02:27.560 we could be seeing that in less than a week, 52 00:02:28.080 --> 00:02:28.680 but who knows. 53 00:02:28.919 --> 00:02:32.159 We've been fooled before. All right, let's explain ourselves. 54 00:02:32.159 --> 00:02:36.000 We're Giant Bomb video game dupases, independent games media. 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As 65 00:03:02.039 --> 00:03:05.039 far as this show goes, most weekdays, I Jeff Grub 66 00:03:05.120 --> 00:03:08.280 will help piece your gaming life back together. That includes 67 00:03:08.319 --> 00:03:11.479 breaking news and maybe even some of our own original 68 00:03:11.560 --> 00:03:14.000 reporting for all these topics, I'll get the input of 69 00:03:14.039 --> 00:03:16.400 a bona fide expert who will make me look smart. 70 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:19.520 If you are watching live on twitch welcome. You can 71 00:03:19.560 --> 00:03:21.919 always listen to the show later on podcast feeds by 72 00:03:21.960 --> 00:03:25.759 searching for Games Mornings, or find the RSS feed on 73 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:28.319 giant bomb dot com. You can also catch the show 74 00:03:28.400 --> 00:03:31.000 later with chapters and timestamps on YouTube. 75 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:33.240 Hello YouTube. 76 00:03:33.280 --> 00:03:34.759 All right, we have a lot to get into, so 77 00:03:34.840 --> 00:03:38.520 let's start the morning mess with. Netflix has agreed to 78 00:03:38.599 --> 00:03:42.319 buy Warner Brothers, including game developers behind Mortal Kombat and 79 00:03:42.439 --> 00:03:47.199 Hogwarts Legacy. This is from Andy Robinson at VGC. Netflix 80 00:03:47.240 --> 00:03:49.919 has agreed to a deal to acquire the film and 81 00:03:49.960 --> 00:03:53.439 streaming business of Warner Brothers Discovery, which also includes its 82 00:03:53.560 --> 00:03:57.000 video game division. After weeks of bidding from companies including 83 00:03:57.039 --> 00:04:00.479 Comcast and Paramount sky Dance, the pair announced a deal 84 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:04.599 worth eighty two point seven billion in enterprise value on Friday. 85 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:08.280 Warner Brothers owns ipis such as Harry Potter, Game of 86 00:04:08.360 --> 00:04:11.599 Thrones and in the DC Universe. It also owns video 87 00:04:11.639 --> 00:04:15.759 game developers like Mortal Kombats, nether Realm Studios, Batman, Arkham 88 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:20.319 creator rock Steady, Hogwarts Legacies, Avalanche and Lego game studio 89 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:23.959 TT Games. According to Netflix, the deal brings together two 90 00:04:23.959 --> 00:04:27.920 pioneering entertainment businesses, combining Netflix's innovation. Blah blah blah and 91 00:04:27.920 --> 00:04:33.120 blah blah blah. Okay, So, like for a long time now, 92 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:37.360 we've been talking about Warner Brothers Video Game Division getting 93 00:04:37.399 --> 00:04:41.680 sold off, something happening to that that never manifested, largely 94 00:04:41.800 --> 00:04:44.000 for all the reasons that we would always bring up 95 00:04:44.079 --> 00:04:46.240 when that conversation would come up around Jason, which is 96 00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:50.720 it was that's a big investment, the IP won't go 97 00:04:50.839 --> 00:04:53.360 along with it, So you're just getting the studios, and 98 00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:55.959 that's going to make all of those studios worth a lot. 99 00:04:55.839 --> 00:04:57.920 Less, and Warner Brothers is not going to accept that. 100 00:04:58.560 --> 00:05:02.279 So, you know, happen instead that it stayed inside of 101 00:05:02.319 --> 00:05:05.040 Warner Brothers and became part of a larger package now 102 00:05:05.079 --> 00:05:09.800 that Netflix is picking up. Do you think that this 103 00:05:10.000 --> 00:05:13.959 will manifest in any noticeable changes here anytime soon for 104 00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:17.399 the video games coming out of Warner Brothers under Netflix, 105 00:05:18.399 --> 00:05:19.759 or do you expect them to be kind of that 106 00:05:19.959 --> 00:05:21.560 to be a little bit of an afterthought while it 107 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:24.879 sets up its movies and television shows and things like that. 108 00:05:25.439 --> 00:05:28.519 I don't think it'll be as much of an afterthought 109 00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:32.519 as people anticipate it to be because Netflix has tried 110 00:05:32.560 --> 00:05:36.040 to embed itself in video games, yes, for years now, 111 00:05:36.720 --> 00:05:39.000 maybe not so much with original games. They have done 112 00:05:39.040 --> 00:05:42.000 a few, and they did own a few studios. They 113 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:47.079 still do own a few studios. But for me, I'm 114 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:49.759 of a couple minds of this from the gaming perspective, 115 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:53.079 I think it's great because getting David's ass laugh away 116 00:05:53.079 --> 00:05:55.079 from video games is a dub. 117 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:56.480 Feels like it's only a good thing. 118 00:05:56.600 --> 00:05:59.480 Yeah, yes, it's not going to Paramount, which is a 119 00:05:59.680 --> 00:06:04.079 w Yes. But and and they do seem to really 120 00:06:04.279 --> 00:06:09.160 value the gaming media because they've tried. They tried the 121 00:06:09.160 --> 00:06:12.959 indie thing where they were they were they were publishing 122 00:06:13.279 --> 00:06:15.639 mobile games. It was the only place you could play 123 00:06:16.040 --> 00:06:20.120 those games on mobile, like, uh, Kentucky Root zero was 124 00:06:20.160 --> 00:06:22.879 one for a little bit and there's there was a 125 00:06:22.879 --> 00:06:28.600 whole like a breach on the Golden Idol games is 126 00:06:28.600 --> 00:06:32.040 another example. Uh, it was a great idea that they 127 00:06:32.680 --> 00:06:35.519 advertised poorly, right, Like I had to the fact that 128 00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:37.959 I on my phone, I had to scroll down to 129 00:06:38.040 --> 00:06:40.199 find the games and it was just like a random 130 00:06:40.279 --> 00:06:44.319 list of all of their weird like too Hot to 131 00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:46.480 Date or wherever those stupid shows are too hot whatever. 132 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:49.319 I don't watch dating shows to get to the games 133 00:06:49.319 --> 00:06:51.480 that I want to play. That was not a great idea. 134 00:06:51.759 --> 00:06:53.480 Separate app would have been a better idea. That's a 135 00:06:53.480 --> 00:06:56.160 discussion for a different day. But they tried it, and 136 00:06:56.199 --> 00:06:57.800 they put a lot of money into it, a lot 137 00:06:57.800 --> 00:06:59.959 of investment into it didn't quite work out there where 138 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:04.079 wanted to. They backed off. They were developing a game 139 00:07:04.279 --> 00:07:07.480 with was it Marcus Leto? No, yeah, Marcus Leto and 140 00:07:07.480 --> 00:07:09.839 that didn't happen. I think it was Marc Letter, but 141 00:07:10.040 --> 00:07:12.240 I don't remember. I don't know if it was Marcus Leto. 142 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:14.120 But somebody went to Netflix to make a game that 143 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:18.000 didn't work out either. I don't hate the idea of 144 00:07:18.079 --> 00:07:22.720 the studios under Warner Brothers having access to Netflix properties. 145 00:07:23.879 --> 00:07:26.199 I think there are some companies that can do some 146 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:29.240 things with that, like they I don't know what's going 147 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:32.120 to happen with the Nemesis system, for example, but I 148 00:07:32.160 --> 00:07:37.800 think you could apply something like that to like maybe 149 00:07:37.800 --> 00:07:42.800 like like a squid game, weird squid game situation, or 150 00:07:43.040 --> 00:07:45.560 like stranger things. I don't know, that's that's not my 151 00:07:45.759 --> 00:07:48.959 decision to make K Pop Demon Hunters now could get 152 00:07:48.959 --> 00:07:51.639 itself a nice triple A video game with these studios. 153 00:07:52.279 --> 00:07:56.639 I from an m and A standpoint, From a consolidation standpoint, 154 00:07:56.680 --> 00:07:58.759 there's only so much more consolidation we can do before 155 00:07:58.759 --> 00:08:01.360 we all can collapse under that. That scares the hell 156 00:08:01.360 --> 00:08:05.199 out of me. But this is not the worst case scenario. 157 00:08:05.360 --> 00:08:08.480 And from a video game standpoint specifically, I feel a 158 00:08:08.519 --> 00:08:11.879 lot more confident in what Netflix will bring to the 159 00:08:11.879 --> 00:08:17.199 table for Warner Brothers portfolio than I would have at Paramount, 160 00:08:17.360 --> 00:08:18.560 If that makes sense. 161 00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:20.639 Yeah, no, I'm with you on that. 162 00:08:21.040 --> 00:08:25.439 I think Netflix has at least shown a willingness to 163 00:08:25.480 --> 00:08:27.560 try to like figure out what it can do in 164 00:08:27.600 --> 00:08:32.480 the gaming space. It definitely is the kind of thing 165 00:08:32.559 --> 00:08:36.720 where they had the same false starts that all these 166 00:08:36.759 --> 00:08:40.159 other tech companies have had. They've had multiple moments where 167 00:08:40.159 --> 00:08:44.000 it's like, Okay, they're gonna try some ideas, but they've 168 00:08:44.080 --> 00:08:46.320 not done the thing where it's like, let's go all 169 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:49.480 out and make a massive triple A game with a 170 00:08:49.559 --> 00:08:52.399 massive budget from a big name a developer or something 171 00:08:52.440 --> 00:08:57.480 like that. They've tried smaller things. So hopefully what has 172 00:08:57.519 --> 00:08:59.919 happened here is that that has prepped them, trained them, 173 00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:02.960 or like having this thing and they will still have 174 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:05.360 a lot of expertise under them. They're requiring the entire 175 00:09:05.639 --> 00:09:09.519 Warner Brothers video game side of things, so hopefully that 176 00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:13.360 turns into something where they can figure out all right, now, 177 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:16.600 we do believe video games is a worthy investment. Let's 178 00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:18.480 go ahead and make sure we get the most out 179 00:09:18.519 --> 00:09:20.360 of that when we're going forward, and that could mean 180 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:23.600 more games and more stability for the people making that stuff. 181 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:27.279 We really don't know. This is going to. 182 00:09:27.240 --> 00:09:30.639 Be a deal that will get scrutinized and could fall 183 00:09:30.679 --> 00:09:35.240 apart because you know, apparently the reports are Paramount Paramount Boss. 184 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:41.320 The other lessens Larry, Yes, Larry Ellison's kid is going 185 00:09:41.360 --> 00:09:43.480 to be going to Trump and being like, please break 186 00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:45.519 up this deal. We wanted to buy this, and so 187 00:09:45.840 --> 00:09:49.759 there's a chance that could happen. This is not over yet, basically. 188 00:09:49.600 --> 00:09:52.000 Correct, And there was an interesting perspective that was shared 189 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:54.840 in one of the chats that I'm in. Somebody on 190 00:09:55.240 --> 00:09:59.200 X had said, what is more valuable to Netflix five 191 00:09:59.279 --> 00:10:03.720 billion dollars or even if the deal falls through, guaranteeing 192 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:06.519 that Comcast and Paramount can't touch Warner Brothers for two 193 00:10:06.600 --> 00:10:09.759 years while this is tied up in legal mumbo jumbo 194 00:10:10.039 --> 00:10:12.279 because the five million dollar kill fee that's in it, 195 00:10:12.360 --> 00:10:14.600 or whatever the breakup fee to break the deals go 196 00:10:14.679 --> 00:10:17.360 through if it doesn't go through, And that to me 197 00:10:17.519 --> 00:10:21.240 was an interesting perspective. It's kind of a win, not 198 00:10:21.279 --> 00:10:23.960 a win win, because obviously they would want to add 199 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:27.519 own this portfolio, but it's a it's enough of a 200 00:10:27.559 --> 00:10:31.200 wrench thrown into a Paramount or a Comcast's plan to 201 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:36.279 have all these things that I don't know, maybe there's 202 00:10:36.440 --> 00:10:41.399 there's an interesting outcome there too. I think Netflix ultimately 203 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:44.559 wants to own it. And if we go back and 204 00:10:44.639 --> 00:10:50.240 analyze Activision Blizzards being acquired by Xbox, I think there 205 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:53.559 are some there were some things in that that the 206 00:10:53.639 --> 00:10:56.000 FCC may have been, a Department of Justice may have 207 00:10:56.080 --> 00:10:58.720 identified that may help them here. But I also think 208 00:10:58.759 --> 00:11:02.240 that there were hills that they could not climb in 209 00:11:02.320 --> 00:11:05.519 that merger that will apply here too, specifically in streaming. 210 00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:09.799 So it'll be interesting. It'll be interesting to see even 211 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:12.879 with all of the meddling that is due to happen 212 00:11:13.679 --> 00:11:20.000 in certain oval offices. I I put it like a 213 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:21.440 fifty to fifty that it goes through. I don't know 214 00:11:21.480 --> 00:11:23.720 about you talking about it like that yet, No, No, 215 00:11:23.759 --> 00:11:25.240 I think that's probably right. 216 00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:26.320 Yeah. 217 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:31.399 I mean overall takeaway here is more consolidation is very 218 00:11:31.480 --> 00:11:34.679 likely going to result and more problems. But you know, 219 00:11:34.720 --> 00:11:37.960 the comparison point here is Warner Brothers under David Zaslov. 220 00:11:38.080 --> 00:11:40.200 So it's like, I don't know, a little bit of 221 00:11:40.200 --> 00:11:40.879 a wash to me. 222 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:44.679 I guess yeah, but I mean, certainly, well, it will 223 00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:47.279 create a fewer places for people who want to make 224 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:49.360 games to like okay, and now I could have gone 225 00:11:49.360 --> 00:11:51.360 to work at Netflix or Warner Brothers and now that's 226 00:11:51.399 --> 00:11:52.960 one and the same. So yes, there will be an 227 00:11:52.960 --> 00:11:57.559 effect there on like the labor market for sure. I 228 00:11:57.960 --> 00:12:01.120 just I really don't know how Netflix could Netflix expresses this. 229 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:04.639 I think they want to and up front are going 230 00:12:04.679 --> 00:12:06.679 to want to figure out like the biggest ip for 231 00:12:06.759 --> 00:12:11.279 the movies in the television And once that's like sorted out, 232 00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:14.320 maybe then I think games gets some attention, and like 233 00:12:14.360 --> 00:12:15.960 you said, maybe it's going to be more than we're thinking. 234 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:18.519 All right, let's keep going. 235 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:21.360 Your fans think Mario Kart World might get a big 236 00:12:21.399 --> 00:12:23.759 donkey Kong DLC any day now. This is from Ethan 237 00:12:23.759 --> 00:12:27.240 Gotchak Kotaku. It's been six months since Mario Kart World 238 00:12:27.320 --> 00:12:30.399 launched alongside the switch to I Know Right it flies by. 239 00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:33.399 There have been some notable patches during the time, but 240 00:12:33.519 --> 00:12:35.080 no big content updates. 241 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:36.279 Could the games. 242 00:12:36.039 --> 00:12:39.559 First paid d paid DLC be right around the corner. 243 00:12:39.759 --> 00:12:42.240 Here's why some fans think so, and why it will 244 00:12:42.240 --> 00:12:46.639 feature tie ins to Donkey Kong Bonanza. Let's see here, 245 00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:49.120 so Nintendo today that this is like some of the 246 00:12:49.159 --> 00:12:52.759 stuff will be. I'll try to talk around it. There 247 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:55.960 could be some spoilers for Donkey Kong Bonanza, so I'll 248 00:12:56.000 --> 00:12:58.919 try to like not get too specific here. So Dana 249 00:12:58.960 --> 00:13:03.639 Minors recently, this govered an interesting early entry excuse me 250 00:13:03.720 --> 00:13:08.759 for December fifteenth. It's an animation featuring Blank from Donkey 251 00:13:08.840 --> 00:13:11.960 Kong Bananza. He's a familiar enough Nintendo character at this point, 252 00:13:12.559 --> 00:13:15.759 even making it into a other game. Yeah, that'll give 253 00:13:15.759 --> 00:13:17.240 it away. 254 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:18.360 I knew this is gonna be Harry. 255 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:21.360 Basically, there's a character in the late game of Donkey 256 00:13:21.480 --> 00:13:23.960 Kong Bananza, and people are just saying seeing that he 257 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:28.360 might be in Mario Kart here coming up pretty soon. 258 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:32.360 It's been weird that there wasn't more of a tie 259 00:13:32.399 --> 00:13:35.639 in to Bonanza for Mario Kart already. People early on 260 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:38.320 noted Jason that there was like all these other characters 261 00:13:38.320 --> 00:13:42.519 had so many variations and Donkey Kong had fewer than 262 00:13:42.759 --> 00:13:45.480 some of the other characters, meaning, well, his Bonanza stuff 263 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:47.120 will be in the game once that game is out. 264 00:13:47.480 --> 00:13:48.399 That never happened. 265 00:13:49.519 --> 00:13:52.440 I guess the reason that never happened is because instead 266 00:13:52.440 --> 00:13:56.480 of making it free DLC to go alongside the game Bonanza, 267 00:13:56.759 --> 00:13:59.440 They're gonna make it a paid DLC expansion for Mario 268 00:13:59.519 --> 00:14:03.200 Kart World. I think that's that's too much, too soon, 269 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:06.679 that they're already asking for DLC for Mario Kart World. 270 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:08.360 Uh what do you think? 271 00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:11.919 Well, I mean we got DLC for paid DLC for 272 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:14.399 Bonanza before Mario Court World and Bonanza came. 273 00:14:14.320 --> 00:14:17.039 Out, right, Yeah, I mean that was their too. Yeah, 274 00:14:17.080 --> 00:14:17.440 for sure. 275 00:14:17.559 --> 00:14:19.399 The fact the fact that we haven't been asked to 276 00:14:19.440 --> 00:14:22.279 pay more money into Mario Court World at all in 277 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:26.320 the six months since it's launch, that's still rattling around 278 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:28.799 in my head considering how long we speculated about the 279 00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:35.039 damn console. Yeah, but yeah, I could definitely see the 280 00:14:35.159 --> 00:14:39.720 first Mario Kart World DLC appearing on Keighley stage next week. 281 00:14:39.799 --> 00:14:43.039 And that's that's actually prime shadow drop material, you know 282 00:14:43.080 --> 00:14:46.000 what I mean? Like that, Now, go play while you're 283 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:47.679 watching the show in the background, because you can player 284 00:14:47.720 --> 00:14:50.360 switch and keep the show on. I keep my viewership, 285 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:54.000 they get their DLC dollars, everybody happy. So yeah, I 286 00:14:54.039 --> 00:14:56.360 mean it sounds like something that Nintendo would bring to 287 00:14:56.399 --> 00:14:58.879 the Game Awards too, like that, not a brand new 288 00:14:58.879 --> 00:15:01.200 game reveal nothing some stantial like that, but hey, we're 289 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:05.559 going to add some stuff to the game that already exists. Yeah, 290 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:08.519 this makes sense to me. The character who shall not 291 00:15:08.600 --> 00:15:11.759 be named would make perfect sense in the world of 292 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:16.600 Mario Kart World. Still, one of my favorite moments of 293 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:20.039 the entire year was that moment in Bonanza, And if 294 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:24.159 you haven't played it yet, make sure you do before. 295 00:15:24.279 --> 00:15:27.639 That's sure absolutely worth going in not being spoiled. It's 296 00:15:27.679 --> 00:15:31.320 so good. Yeah, And all of the all of the 297 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:34.960 clues suggesting that Bonanza is the first crossover with Mario 298 00:15:35.039 --> 00:15:37.519 Kart World, the less costumes and things like that, it 299 00:15:37.559 --> 00:15:38.360 all fits. 300 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:41.039 If it's but it's so like that. 301 00:15:41.039 --> 00:15:43.759 That's what's so frustrating about the pay the DLC aspect 302 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:47.840 is Donkey Kong has fewer costumes and stuff like that, 303 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:50.240 So it's like to me that this is like completing 304 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:53.039 the game because now Donkey Kong has all the same 305 00:15:53.039 --> 00:15:53.840 amount of stuff as it. 306 00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:55.519 Has as the other characters. 307 00:15:55.559 --> 00:16:00.639 So it's capcom putting the stuff on the DLC instincts, right, Yeah, 308 00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:03.720 I think maybe there's a chance like that stuff comes 309 00:16:03.720 --> 00:16:05.440 out and it's like a in the free update and 310 00:16:05.480 --> 00:16:07.960 then the paid DLC is like some new courses or. 311 00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:08.679 Something like that. 312 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:13.440 Of course, yeah, because did they charge for characters for 313 00:16:13.480 --> 00:16:15.759 the last Mario Kart eight or was it all just 314 00:16:15.799 --> 00:16:16.759 new course packs? 315 00:16:16.879 --> 00:16:20.840 It was the the DLCs were court booster pass course, 316 00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:26.000 booster course, booster pass courses. That's what there was. There 317 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:29.639 was eight eight eight different DLC packs I think total 318 00:16:29.879 --> 00:16:34.039 whatever it was. But yeah, characters, costumes, that all was 319 00:16:34.320 --> 00:16:38.799 I believe, uh free, although we're we're link and the 320 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:44.200 animal Crossing Racers part of those packs or even if 321 00:16:44.240 --> 00:16:44.840 you didn't buy them. 322 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:47.679 Yeah, no, the people are saying, yeah, there, that's exactly 323 00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:48.120 what it was. 324 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:50.639 Those characters were included in the in the DLC and 325 00:16:50.679 --> 00:16:53.320 then we're in the right and then they I think 326 00:16:53.360 --> 00:16:57.080 they were including the standard version of Deluxe for Switch. 327 00:16:56.840 --> 00:16:58.559 But if you go all the way back to the 328 00:16:58.559 --> 00:17:06.240 waking version, Okay, yeah, so fair. I mean, this is Nintendo. 329 00:17:06.400 --> 00:17:09.359 They turns out that's a company that likes money, and 330 00:17:09.440 --> 00:17:13.599 we'll keep doing stuff like this. And I guess we'll 331 00:17:13.640 --> 00:17:16.440 let to see the exact details again. I think if 332 00:17:16.519 --> 00:17:19.160 the if the content, the cosmetics come out and feel 333 00:17:19.160 --> 00:17:20.880 like that that's a free update, I think that would 334 00:17:20.920 --> 00:17:23.799 be fine. I don't I don't know if I'm ready 335 00:17:23.799 --> 00:17:25.880 to pay for DLC for Mario Kart World. That's a 336 00:17:25.880 --> 00:17:28.279 game that I'm like, let's get a few more updates, 337 00:17:28.279 --> 00:17:29.960 see if you can improve that a little bit, and 338 00:17:29.960 --> 00:17:31.759 then maybe I'll check back in. But you know, I'm 339 00:17:31.759 --> 00:17:33.680 sure they were playing this long before they knew what 340 00:17:33.680 --> 00:17:35.000 the response to that game would be. 341 00:17:35.480 --> 00:17:37.000 Sure all right. 342 00:17:37.640 --> 00:17:42.680 Fallout creator has rejoined xboxes Obsidian and says you won't 343 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:45.160 guess what he's working on. This is from Andy Robinson 344 00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:49.000 at VGC. The lead behind the original nineteen ninety seven 345 00:17:49.079 --> 00:17:53.519 Fallout game game, Tim Kaine, has rejoined Xbox's Obsidian Entertainment 346 00:17:53.559 --> 00:17:56.759 as a full time employee, he announced on Friday. Kane, 347 00:17:56.880 --> 00:18:00.000 who has who was producer and programming lead on Fallout 348 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:03.160 and a designer for its sequel, previously joined Obsidian in 349 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:06.279 twenty eleven as a programmer, working on South Park and 350 00:18:06.359 --> 00:18:09.480 Pillars of Eternity. He also co directed The Outer Worlds 351 00:18:09.480 --> 00:18:12.319 and consulted on its recent sequel. In twenty twenty, he 352 00:18:12.400 --> 00:18:16.359 left his position and worked on a remote, remote contracted basis. 353 00:18:16.680 --> 00:18:19.400 In a new video published on his YouTube channel on Friday, 354 00:18:19.480 --> 00:18:22.200 Kane revealed that he's rejoined the company as a full 355 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:25.599 time employee and in person, and that he's currently working 356 00:18:25.640 --> 00:18:28.960 on an unannounced project, which he doesn't think fans will guess. 357 00:18:29.240 --> 00:18:31.160 I'm back at Upcity, and he said, I'm there as 358 00:18:31.200 --> 00:18:34.079 a full time employee and in person, so not remote, 359 00:18:34.160 --> 00:18:36.799 and I'm not a contractor anymore. This means that I'm 360 00:18:36.799 --> 00:18:40.240 not working on at other places, although there's at least 361 00:18:40.279 --> 00:18:42.240 one game that I worked on elsewhere that I know 362 00:18:42.400 --> 00:18:44.839 is going to ship. He added, I can't talk about 363 00:18:44.839 --> 00:18:47.440 the project that I'm working on at Obsidian just because 364 00:18:47.440 --> 00:18:50.640 that's covered by NDA. Don't bother guessing. You're not going 365 00:18:50.680 --> 00:18:53.599 to guess, right, I would probably say that I'm a 366 00:18:53.640 --> 00:18:58.559 lot less retired now, right, So you see the headline, 367 00:18:58.599 --> 00:19:01.200 You're like, is he being cheeky? Is he being like, oh, 368 00:19:01.240 --> 00:19:03.480 you won't guess what I'm working on, because he's working 369 00:19:03.559 --> 00:19:07.920 on Fallout, a new Fallout at Obsidian. I think he's 370 00:19:08.160 --> 00:19:11.240 being probably pretty honest here that you won't guess what 371 00:19:11.359 --> 00:19:14.440 it is, and so he's probably not working on a 372 00:19:14.480 --> 00:19:18.240 new Fallout, which you know, we could try to guess 373 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:20.000 what Tim Kaine is working on. I don't think we're 374 00:19:20.000 --> 00:19:23.359 going to be able to do that. But instead it's like, well, 375 00:19:23.519 --> 00:19:26.720 this Obsidian was the other option for a new Fallout game. 376 00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:30.000 Do you think Obsidian is going to make a Fallout 377 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:34.960 game along like alongside or while you know Bethesda works 378 00:19:35.000 --> 00:19:37.680 on Elder Scroll six or do you think that's not 379 00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:38.559 happening now? 380 00:19:39.359 --> 00:19:43.720 There has to be something going on with Fallout. Considering 381 00:19:43.960 --> 00:19:47.960 the success of the Amazon Prime series, they would be 382 00:19:48.759 --> 00:19:52.359 ludicrous to leave that money on the table because not 383 00:19:52.400 --> 00:19:54.920 only were Fallout fans flocked, and not only to fall 384 00:19:54.920 --> 00:19:58.039 Out fans flock to that show, but there are people 385 00:19:58.039 --> 00:19:59.960 who just watched the show not knowing what Fallout was, 386 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:02.359 who may go the other way and try and see 387 00:20:02.359 --> 00:20:05.200 what the Fallout games are like. Didn't didn't after season one. 388 00:20:05.240 --> 00:20:07.480 Wasn't there a huge spike in New Vegas and Fallout 389 00:20:07.480 --> 00:20:08.880 four sales? 390 00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:10.920 Well Out four had a ton of players after that 391 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:11.440 first season. 392 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:15.400 Yeah, yeah, so it would be ludicrous for them not 393 00:20:15.440 --> 00:20:17.599 to be working on Fallout now. Is that What he's 394 00:20:17.640 --> 00:20:20.400 working on remains to be seen? And no, we're not 395 00:20:20.440 --> 00:20:22.079 going to guess it, because even if we did, you're 396 00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:25.000 not going to acknowledge it. So we're we don't know 397 00:20:25.079 --> 00:20:29.039 if we're guessing it or not. So, but I would 398 00:20:28.799 --> 00:20:32.000 I don't know if I want it to be a 399 00:20:32.039 --> 00:20:34.640 new Fallout or if I want it to be a 400 00:20:34.680 --> 00:20:40.759 new like like a new game that played like Fallout one. 401 00:20:41.079 --> 00:20:43.480