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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to Sex is Medicine. I am your host,
Speaker 2: Davey word.
Speaker 1: Ericson and I'm Alena Selks and.
Speaker 2: Together we are serving up over twenty seven years of
Speaker 2: combined expertise in the field of holistic sexual wellness to
Speaker 2: help you integrate your body, mind, spirit, and sex and
Speaker 2: making sure that we are bringing you the most accurate
Speaker 2: and up to date information to set you up right
Speaker 2: so that you're not engaging in stuff that's gonna be
Speaker 2: detrimental to your well being. And that's exactly why we're
Speaker 2: doing this episode that we have for you today because,
Speaker 2: as I said in our first reboot episode, Mama Davey's
Speaker 2: concerned about about about some of this stuff that's going
Speaker 2: on on the Internet and some of these people that
Speaker 2: have platforms that aren't necessarily educated and informed to the
Speaker 2: degree that is necessary to be advising you about how
Speaker 2: to achieve your own sexual wellness your own optimum sexual potential.
Speaker 2: So today we're going to be busting a myth for vagina.
Speaker 3: Owners all over the world.
Speaker 2: We've gotten this question through are decades of work together,
Speaker 2: decade of work together and my seven years before that.
Speaker 2: The question a lot is having to do with so
Speaker 2: to setting the stages is for vagina.
Speaker 3: Owners, the owners in.
Speaker 2: Relationships with male partners and heterosexual partnerships, though I will
Speaker 2: say that this also comes up in same sex relationships
Speaker 2: for women because we're talking about vaginas and we're talking
Speaker 2: about should you be able to feel your partner inside
Speaker 2: your vagina? Or is it okay for your vagina to
Speaker 2: be numb? I'm gonna say that again, is it okay
Speaker 2: for your vagina to be numb? How fuck No, it
Speaker 2: is not okay for you to have a numb vagina.
Speaker 2: We absolutely not and we're gonna tell you why, and
Speaker 2: we're also gonna tell you how you can awaken and
Speaker 2: activate and sensitize resensitize your vagina because you are supposed
Speaker 2: to feel that you should, yes, you should be feeling
Speaker 2: your partner inside of you. And if you're not feeling
Speaker 2: your partner inside of you, it doesn't mean you need
Speaker 2: a new vibrator. My friends, that is not what you
Speaker 2: need to feel your partner inside of you. It does
Speaker 2: not need to mean you need a new vibrator. So
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have the mic over to Elena because she
Speaker 2: is gonna break this shit down for us about why, yes,
Speaker 2: you should, yes, you should be feeling him in your vagina.
Speaker 1: So Elena, thank you, Davy, And so I'm gonna play
Speaker 1: a video for us in a second. We're not gonna
Speaker 1: have a hot take this week, because the whole episode
Speaker 1: is the hot take. We came across this this clip
Speaker 1: on Instagram a while back and shared it among our
Speaker 1: staff and we were all enraged by it and knew
Speaker 1: that we needed to that we needed to have have
Speaker 1: an episode about it. So I'm gonna share the clip
Speaker 1: with you and we're gonna listen to it and then
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about it.
Speaker 3: You were outraged that that is the motivation. We are outraged.
Speaker 3: So here we go.
Speaker 4: And if you cannot feel your partner when they are
Speaker 4: inside of you, do not worry. That is extremely normal
Speaker 4: because the inside of our V has almost no touch
Speaker 4: sensitive nerve and it is only the first third part
Speaker 4: of the V is where you're going to feel any
Speaker 4: tingly sensation. That's why the key to owing is playing
Speaker 4: with the sea. The sea has over ten thousand touch
Speaker 4: sensitive nerve endings, which is even more than the P.
Speaker 4: The c's only purpose on our body is for us
Speaker 4: to experience pleasure. So make sure you or your partner is.
Speaker 3: Playing with the sea.
Speaker 4: And if you want to learn how to oh if
Speaker 4: you haven't experienced and oh yet, come and learn below
Speaker 4: and I will send you my workshop that teaches you,
Speaker 4: because every single person deserves to.
Speaker 1: Oh. Okay, So I'm just gonna jump right in here
Speaker 1: if that's okay.
Speaker 3: Davy before screaming.
Speaker 1: So, I just want to start by saying, okay, having
Speaker 1: a numb vagina, there's difference between uh normal and common, right,
Speaker 1: And I think that's really the crux of this video
Speaker 1: for me. There's a difference between normal and common. Right,
Speaker 1: it might be common for people not to be able
Speaker 1: to feel their partner or a toy inside them, but
Speaker 1: that does not necessarily make it normal, right, And I
Speaker 1: think for me, what's so important about that distinction is
Speaker 1: a like, we don't want to we don't want to
Speaker 1: shame anyone, right, Like, we don't shame anyone that doesn't
Speaker 1: experience sensation inside of their vagina. And I think what
Speaker 1: ends up happening is a lot of these folks, these influencers,
Speaker 1: sex education people on Instagram, in an effort to like
Speaker 1: answer these questions and divert that shame, they actually rob
Speaker 1: people of the potential capacity for pleasure that they might have.
Speaker 1: Because while it can be common, you can change it.
Speaker 1: Sexuality is a skill, and it's a skill that can
Speaker 1: be developed, and it can grow and do all kinds
Speaker 1: of wonderful things. But I don't want to talk too
Speaker 1: much before getting your initial thoughts on this, Davy.
Speaker 2: Well, so, like you, like you said, there's a I
Speaker 2: think it's important to make a distinction between what is
Speaker 2: normal and what is common. So, yes, it is very
Speaker 2: common for people with vaginas to not have much sensation
Speaker 2: in the vaginal.
Speaker 3: Canal, and there are multiple reasons for this.
Speaker 2: One of those reasons, yes, is a lower density of
Speaker 2: nerve of of of pleasure or you know nerve nerve
Speaker 2: nerve fibers, right that that's a lower density of those
Speaker 2: in the vaginal canal. But and at the same time,
Speaker 2: it's important to be aware of where the density where
Speaker 2: the where the most nerve fibers are in the vagina.
Speaker 3: And not only do.
Speaker 2: You have them in that first you know one to
Speaker 2: three inches, which is also where your rectile tissue is.
Speaker 3: This is where your genital.
Speaker 2: Anatomy is really really important and understanding how it functions,
Speaker 2: Like we were talking one of the other episodes, understanding
Speaker 2: how your genital anatomy functions.
Speaker 3: Is literally the key to bliss for you.
Speaker 2: For like you really, if you don't understand how your
Speaker 2: body works, you can't you can't make it function optimally.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: So that first one to three inches of the vagina
Speaker 2: is surrounded by the internal rectile tissue, part of which
Speaker 2: is the clatorus. But the clatorus is not the totality
Speaker 2: of the retile tissue. You also have your perennial sponge
Speaker 2: and the bottom.
Speaker 3: End of your vagina that is a huge.
Speaker 2: Source of orgasm. The perennial sponge orgasms. And then you
Speaker 2: also have at the back of the vagina is highly
Speaker 2: and densely innervated with pressure sensitive nerve endings.
Speaker 3: And in fact, your cervix yoni owners.
Speaker 2: Your cervix is triple andnervated, triple innervated with your vagus.
Speaker 3: Nerve, your hypogastric nerve, and your pelvic nerve. And so
Speaker 3: in this video, the young young lady talked.
Speaker 2: About how your clataorus has you know, ten thousand nerve fibers,
Speaker 2: your cervix has as many as two hundred thousand or more.
Speaker 2: So your cervix is actually the most densely enervated sexual
Speaker 2: pleasure center in your whole you know, sexual.
Speaker 3: Genital pleasure apparatus.
Speaker 2: Shall we say so, your cervix has the potential to
Speaker 2: be even more fulfilling orgasms than your clittorus. But guess
Speaker 2: what happens to your cervix every time you go to
Speaker 2: the guano and they they don't recognize it as a
Speaker 2: pleasure zone. They traumatize it. Well, the result of trauma
Speaker 2: is numbness or pain. So if you're if you have
Speaker 2: zero sensation in your cervix or pain in your cervix,
Speaker 2: it's because you've got trauma in your cervix.
Speaker 3: As a result of going to the freaking doctor. And
Speaker 3: God only knows what else.
Speaker 2: Right, because our entire culture, the Western culture, and relationship
Speaker 2: to sexuality is highly ignorant. It's and it's highly misogynistic,
Speaker 2: highly misogynistic, and highly ignorant. So they are not mainstream
Speaker 2: sexualities and mainstream you know, sexual whatever is not teaching
Speaker 2: you about your cervix being even more pleasurable potentially than
Speaker 2: your clatorius because they don't even know, they don't even know.
Speaker 2: We've actually had going on a rent here, but but
Speaker 2: I'm going to continue on that rent. We've had medical
Speaker 2: professionals take our TUNTRA certification program and come out of
Speaker 2: it telling us that they learn more about human sexual
Speaker 2: functioning and human genital anatomy as we were wired for pleasure,
Speaker 2: human pleasure based general anatomy. They learn more from our
Speaker 2: training programs than they learned in medical school, because medical
Speaker 2: school is not about pleasure, it's about identifying causes of pain. Right,
Speaker 2: So these are my very long first responses. So, first
Speaker 2: of all, you know, I would say this is a
Speaker 2: perfect example of someone who is, you know, uneducated potentially
Speaker 2: I'd like to know where they got their sex coaching license.
Speaker 2: You know, what qualifies them to be offering sexual advice
Speaker 2: on the internet, aside from the fact that they're selling
Speaker 2: vibrators because they're the vibe slut.
Speaker 3: Apparently that's their URL. So keep that in mind.
Speaker 2: Vibrator companies and sexual wellness experts are not necessarily on
Speaker 2: the same side. We're not necessarily on the same team.
Speaker 2: We say no to more vibrator invitations than we say
Speaker 2: yes to. In fact, I don't think we've said yes
Speaker 2: to any recently because of the detrimental effect that vibrators
Speaker 2: can have on your clear your sexual response. They they
Speaker 2: can be detrimental. We've got a Tonture Talks podcast episode
Speaker 2: that talks about the dangers of overusing your vibrator. They're
Speaker 2: they they are, they are they are something they are
Speaker 2: to be used with caution, is what I would say,
Speaker 2: Use your vibrator with caution. Right, So, this person giving
Speaker 2: you this information on this video has a vested interest.
Speaker 2: Their motivation is not necessarily to help you experience sexual
Speaker 2: fulfillment and realization, though they you know, they they market
Speaker 2: it that way. Their job is to sell you vibrator
Speaker 2: and orgasms. But what kind of orgasm and at what cost?
Speaker 2: And what is the quality of that orgasm? Because for
Speaker 2: those of you who have been listening to us for
Speaker 2: many years, and you know, for those of you who
Speaker 2: are new to the show, welcome, thank you for joining us,
Speaker 2: I cussle up. Women can have over fifteen different types
Speaker 2: of orgasm. So when I was in my twenties and
Speaker 2: I was just becoming a little monk who was allowed
Speaker 2: to have sex because that was part of our tradition,
Speaker 2: you know, and I could have my little clit orgasm,
Speaker 2: like I thought that was all there is. If I
Speaker 2: had my little genital sneeze, I was happy and I
Speaker 2: could go to sleep, and you know, I did not
Speaker 2: feel my partner inside my vagina, and I thought that
Speaker 2: was fine.
Speaker 3: I mean, most of the time I just felt some pain,
Speaker 3: and I was like, okay, you're supposed to feel pain.
Speaker 2: But he would, you know, pump away for five minutes
Speaker 2: and have his orgasm. And I was a good girlfriend,
Speaker 2: and I was happy because I got a seamen and
Speaker 2: you know, and now he'll stay with me because he got.
Speaker 3: His nut right, So I didn't know that I could.
Speaker 2: Have anything other than a genital sneeze if I was lucky,
Speaker 2: and you know, and sometimes I would have some great
Speaker 2: orgasms from some some oral pleasure or clorical pleasure.
Speaker 3: But I too had a numb vagia. I was from
Speaker 3: the Namba Vagina club.
Speaker 2: I too had a numvagia, right, And so it wasn't
Speaker 2: until I was introduced to sexual tuntra and introduced to
Speaker 2: the concept of trauma and body armoring, and you know,
Speaker 2: sexual trauma and had embodied in visceral experiences of releasing trauma,
Speaker 2: going from going from numbness to pain, to irritation to pleasure, right,
Speaker 2: which is the way trauma resolves in the body. For
Speaker 2: those of you who aren't aware of that, that's the
Speaker 2: way the body dearmors and releases traumas through the four
Speaker 2: stages of First, you're gonna experience numbness. Then as the
Speaker 2: numbness starts to dissolve, the freeze response in your nervous
Speaker 2: system starts to dissolve.
Speaker 3: Your going to experience pain. You know.
Speaker 2: So once your hands are frozen, they start to thaw,
Speaker 2: and this the energy comes back and the blood comes back.
Speaker 2: It hurts, and then it starts to tangle pins and needles.
Speaker 3: Irritation, and then there's function. Right. So I had a.
Speaker 2: Personal visceral experience of going through vaginal numbness, to vaginal pain,
Speaker 2: to vaginal irritation to oh my god, pleasure and feeling
Speaker 2: the different areas of my vagina awaken, you know. And
Speaker 2: the first spot to awaken, yes, was the G spot,
Speaker 2: like that first one to three inches.
Speaker 3: That was numb too. When I was all numb, It
Speaker 3: was all numb. The whole thing was numb. I couldn't
Speaker 3: feel anything. I felt some like pressure maybe if I
Speaker 3: was lucky, right.
Speaker 2: So, so healing, you know, each each quadrant, shall we say,
Speaker 2: of the vagina, and experience having the actual embodied experience
Speaker 2: of sensation returning to my body.
Speaker 3: And when when I.
Speaker 2: Had that experience, I was horrified. I was outraged, again outraged.
Speaker 3: And I was so sad.
Speaker 2: I was so sad that I had spent thirty three
Speaker 2: years of my life not knowing that I could, that
Speaker 2: my body could produce this type of pleasure, that I
Speaker 2: had access to this type of pleasure, and that nobody
Speaker 2: had told me. And so I'm that's part of why
Speaker 2: I'm horrified for all you all young women on the
Speaker 2: Internet that are willing to settle for this kind of shady,
Speaker 2: shitty ass sex advice that.
Speaker 3: Like, Oh, don't worry, you're you know your vagina, it's
Speaker 3: okay to be numb. No, it's not.
Speaker 2: It's not okay. And that doesn't mean that there's anything
Speaker 2: wrong with you. There's means it Actually, if we have
Speaker 2: a numb vagina, actually means our bodies are working the
Speaker 2: way they we're designed. It's actually a win for the team, right.
Speaker 2: We just need to understand how to reverse that process,
Speaker 2: and we can because that's part of our birthrate too.
Speaker 2: And the reclamation process is empowerment. Wouldn't you much rather
Speaker 2: heal and transform your vagina, to awaken your vagina as
Speaker 2: a profound and powerful source of transformation, healing and liberation
Speaker 2: not just for you, but for every partner and your
Speaker 2: un born children. Like, imagine your children passing through a
Speaker 2: fully awakened vaginal canal. Wow, they're being passed through the
Speaker 2: portal enlightenment itself.
Speaker 3: Like you deserve better.
Speaker 2: You deserve that, and that is your birthright and that
Speaker 2: is your potential.
Speaker 3: And I want you to have that because you can,
Speaker 3: because you can.
Speaker 2: Once you you just need to believe that you can
Speaker 2: and have the right tools and methods, some of which
Speaker 2: we teach, some of what you can get elsewhere, because
Speaker 2: it's really this is really about reclaiming your your connection
Speaker 2: to your.
Speaker 3: Own body, and you don't need anybody outside of you
Speaker 3: to do that. That's the thing you can do for yourself.
Speaker 2: You can something you can do with yourself with your
Speaker 2: own connection to your own beautiful body. So that is
Speaker 2: why we are doing this episode for you, because you
Speaker 2: deserve better than this shitty ass fucking information that's gonna
Speaker 2: that's going to maybe not shame you. We're not trying
Speaker 2: to shame you. I'm we're inviting you into your potential.
Speaker 2: We've been this process and we've walked hundreds, if not thousands,
Speaker 2: of other women through this process, so we know it's
Speaker 2: possible and we know what's on the other side, and
Speaker 2: we want that for you, and it's a beautiful.
Speaker 3: Process that you deserve. You deserve this. You deserve to
Speaker 3: feel every throbbing, pulse and pump of your partner in
Speaker 3: your pussy girl you do. It's beautiful. You don't want
Speaker 3: to miss that gift, and he doesn't want to miss
Speaker 3: that gift. You deserve it, so don't settle for this
Speaker 3: like you know, oh you don't have.
Speaker 2: There are your Your cervix is more densely innervated than
Speaker 2: your clatorus. So go get go, get that, Go get that.
Speaker 2: My chihuahua agrees, tell it, tell it, tell it money.
Speaker 3: So there's there's multiple reasons aside from trauma, that you
Speaker 3: may not be feeling your partner inside of you. So
Speaker 3: I'm gonna hand the mic back over to Elena because
Speaker 3: she has a beautiful outline. She's a beautiful she's gonna
Speaker 3: take us through. So take it, Take it, Elena.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, Tavie. There's a view of things. I
Speaker 1: just want to mention to just back up all of
Speaker 1: the beautiful, beautiful things you just said. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for that wonderful first first, uh, I guess reflection
Speaker 1: on the video that we just watched, I love your rents.
Speaker 1: I love them so much, never apologize for them. So
Speaker 1: just again to reinforce what you said, just the clitteris
Speaker 1: is great. We love the clitterists, right, And as that
Speaker 1: that young woman said in the video, so far as
Speaker 1: we know it is, its primary purpose is pleasure, right,
Speaker 1: So that this is not no shade to the clitterists
Speaker 1: at all. We love it. It's wonderful, wonderful orgasm organ
Speaker 1: capable of orgasm. Excuse my mouth, but go guitars. But
Speaker 1: people get hyper focused on the clitters and the C
Speaker 1: literal system, right, and I get it, Like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if anybody out there have heard this, like strangeness
Speaker 1: in the ether of like vaginal orgasms are superior this
Speaker 1: and that like people seem to be responding to this
Speaker 1: idea that vaginal orgasms somehow superior than clitteral orgasms, and
Speaker 1: that that belief comes from a place right. So Freud,
Speaker 1: our friend Freud, when he was formulating his theories, he's
Speaker 1: the first person that we know of to say that
Speaker 1: the vaginal orgasm was more mature than the clitteral orgasm,
Speaker 1: and that you know, women who had them were mature
Speaker 1: themselves more so than than women who could not have them.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: And so.
Speaker 1: Basically, as we've gone through time, I have seen sex
Speaker 1: educators react to that shitty claim and then go the
Speaker 1: complete opposite direction. And we'll talk about that more in
Speaker 1: another episode when we talk about you know, the C
Speaker 1: literal ruthural complex, But for now, just know that there's
Speaker 1: a backlash to that that has gone too far, right,
Speaker 1: because while we love the clitterists, it isn't the only
Speaker 1: source of orgasm. And we just want you to understand
Speaker 1: that your body is capable of so many wonderful, beautiful things,
Speaker 1: as Davey pointed out when she mapped all those different
Speaker 1: places that we have that innervation. And I want to
Speaker 1: go back very quickly to something I said before I
Speaker 1: passed the mic to Davey, which is this concept of
Speaker 1: sexuality as a skill. This is something that I talk
Speaker 1: about a lot with my students and something I like
Speaker 1: to reinforce over and over and all of our people
Speaker 1: really and when I say sex is a skill, I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about it in the way that most people think.
Speaker 1: So a lot of people want to be good at sex,
Speaker 1: and so they think that means, you know, knowing all
Speaker 1: of the best positions, knowing exactly how to please you know,
Speaker 1: this person or that person, and or they want to
Speaker 1: know all of the best techniques. And while techniques are wonderful,
Speaker 1: the real point of magic in our sexuality is connection, right,
Speaker 1: connection to ourselves and connection to our partner.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: So when I say it's a skill, it's about learning yourself,
Speaker 1: and it's about learning your partner and your partner learning
Speaker 1: you as well. And yes, that will involve education, right,
Speaker 1: but it also involves time, and it involves practice.
Speaker 3: And communication communication which is like so difficult for folks
Speaker 3: to feel safe and comfortable doing often when it comes
Speaker 3: to our sexual interactions, just giving each other guidance, right, So,
Speaker 3: I mean I would often say, like the way to
Speaker 3: what's the best way to give a woman the best
Speaker 3: orgasms of.
Speaker 2: Her life is listen, listen to what she says, invite
Speaker 2: her to communicate with you, because we as women receive
Speaker 2: a lot of at least in my generation jen X,
Speaker 2: and if this is true for millennials and zoomers, but
Speaker 2: we receive a lot of conditioning to not communicate about
Speaker 2: our pleasure during the active pleasure because we don't want to,
Speaker 2: you know, hurt anyone's feelings or you know, or egos,
Speaker 2: or we don't want to seem too experienced or whatever
Speaker 2: the conditioning is. But if you ever, if you're a listener,
Speaker 2: and you ever hesitate to tell your partner, yes, that
Speaker 2: feels good with your words, or oh could you go
Speaker 2: a little softer please, or oh that doesn't you know,
Speaker 2: could you do this instead? If you ever hesitate to
Speaker 2: do that, chances are it's your cultural conditioning blocking you
Speaker 2: from from communicating your your truth, your sexual truth. So
Speaker 2: so yeah, so there's a lot more that goes into
Speaker 2: good sex than just you know, having the right you know,
Speaker 2: squirting technique.
Speaker 3: Where you got to vibrate their geez bot. Really, look,
Speaker 3: if I'm disassociated from my body, you can vibrate my
Speaker 3: ge spot all day long. I'm not squirting. If nobody's home,
Speaker 3: nothing's coming.
Speaker 1: Out beautiful, Davy, thank you. So let's get into it.
Speaker 1: So I want to quick start. I'm going to move
Speaker 1: around my outline a little bit, but I want to
Speaker 1: start by talking a little bit about nerve innervation, because
Speaker 1: you started that conversation off beautifully right, So, as far
Speaker 1: as we understand it, Davey talked about, you know, the
Speaker 1: first two to three inches having those touch sensitive nerves,
Speaker 1: and then the int your you know, inside deeper in
Speaker 1: the vagina, they have nerves that experience deep pressure more readily.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: I also want to say that there are there isn't
Speaker 1: a whole lot of information out there as well about
Speaker 1: our nerves and our nerve density. In our vagina. So
Speaker 1: before I got into this episode, I was doing a
Speaker 1: lot of research on different studies that were out there,
Speaker 1: and I found a lot of conflicting information. Sadly, I
Speaker 1: closed all my tabs, so I don't have them right up,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna just paraphrase them from my memory for you.
Speaker 1: So one study that I found show that there really
Speaker 1: wasn't much difference in nerve density throughout the inside of
Speaker 1: the vagina, right, there may be differences in the way
Speaker 1: nerves experience the stimulation, right, because there's a number of
Speaker 1: different nerves that feed the vagina, like the pelvic nerve
Speaker 1: and the hypogastric complex. There's there's different players in there,
Speaker 1: and those nerves experience things a little bit differently. Some
Speaker 1: of them are parasympathetic, some of them are sympathetic. So
Speaker 1: there's a lot of happen but it is innervated in there.
Speaker 2: I pause you there, let's outline we teach that there's
Speaker 2: four different nerve pathways that innervate the genitals for women.
Speaker 2: So let's just outline those for people because there's a
Speaker 2: lot of nerve conversation happening here. So with the clitteral,
Speaker 2: the clatorus, the clutorus, and the external volva area and
Speaker 2: the external your introitis and your anus and your perennial
Speaker 2: sponge area. If you don't know what I'm talking about,
Speaker 2: google a diagram. Look at your parts. Look at your parts, ladies,
Speaker 2: know your parts, ladies. So all of that external vaginal
Speaker 2: or volva, all the external vulvic area is innervated by
Speaker 2: your poodental nerve, poodental nerve, which means shame. It's innervated
Speaker 2: by your shame nerve, ladies and men to have the
Speaker 2: pudental nerve innervation. But then when you start to get
Speaker 2: into what's commonly referred to as the G spot and
Speaker 2: the inside of the vagina, and of course the cervix
Speaker 2: and the A spot and the P spot, which are
Speaker 2: the anterior four nex orogenas zone and the posterior for
Speaker 2: nex orogenas zone. We will link to a diagram so
Speaker 2: you can see our diagrams that we have that we
Speaker 2: have designed for these. So when you're talking about inside there,
Speaker 2: then we have the pelvic nerve that comes into place.
Speaker 2: It comes into play as well as the hypogastric nerve
Speaker 2: specifically innervates the A spot, the pa spot and the cervix,
Speaker 2: and then of course the vegus nerve, which is the
Speaker 2: longest nerve in the body and bypasses a spinal column,
Speaker 2: and that innervates specifically the cervix and the upper or
Speaker 2: back end of the vagina. And studies have shown that
Speaker 2: women with spinal cord injuries are still able to experience
Speaker 2: orgasm through cervical stimulation because of the vegus nerve, because
Speaker 2: of vegas nerve bypasses a spinal column. And I just
Speaker 2: want to say, this is how much Nature loves us, ladies,
Speaker 2: that Nature ensured that even if we have a spinal
Speaker 2: cord injury and cannot walk, bit you can still come.
Speaker 3: You can still have have an orgasts up from having
Speaker 3: your service.
Speaker 2: Stimulates because God decided that no woman should go without orgasm,
Speaker 2: even if like you may not be able to walk,
Speaker 2: but bit you can come.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying.
Speaker 2: That if that doesn't say something about the priorities, about
Speaker 2: Nature's priorities, that's.
Speaker 1: Beautiful, Davy, Thank you so much. Yeah so it. Thank
Speaker 1: you for outlining those foreigner pathways. And yeah, we teach
Speaker 1: those in our courses and all of our students teach
Speaker 1: those as well, and it's a beautiful way to understand
Speaker 1: that we are literally wired for pleasure. And and there's
Speaker 1: still studies out there. It's the medical documents out there
Speaker 1: that say that there are no nerves in the vaginal
Speaker 1: canal and attribute it to the birthing process. Right, So
Speaker 1: there's a lot of bullshit out there, and it's really
Speaker 1: important that when you're when you're looking up these things
Speaker 1: that you a are really really careful in what you're
Speaker 1: reading and you think deeply about you know, how studies
Speaker 1: are conducted, you know if there are any references to
Speaker 1: the articles that are out there, and that you also
Speaker 1: just more than anything, tune into your own body and
Speaker 1: what feels like a yes or a no for you too,
Speaker 1: because you'll know in your mind and in your body
Speaker 1: and your heart if the information that's coming through doesn't
Speaker 1: sound quite right, and then you can investigate further. Right,
Speaker 1: So anything more on that dating.
Speaker 2: Just that Also keeping in mind like what we call
Speaker 2: Western science is relatively new, it's only a few hundred
Speaker 2: years old, and that people all over human beings all
Speaker 2: over the world have been having, you know, experiences and
Speaker 2: practicing different forms of science that don't necessarily fit under
Speaker 2: the Western umbrella science, and the Western umbrella science is
Speaker 2: dominated by it has historically been dominated by white men
Speaker 2: with PhDs. No shade, I'm married to a white man
Speaker 2: with PhD. But the view is limited. And it's also
Speaker 2: you know, misogyny is real, and it's only been in
Speaker 2: the last you know, several decades that female sexuality researches
Speaker 2: are even a thing, right, or even have voices to
Speaker 2: add to the conversation. So, I mean, I really consider
Speaker 2: Western science and relationship to sexuality pretty archaic. It's pretty archaic,
Speaker 2: and the people doing the studies are only looking through
Speaker 2: their own little, tiny myopic lens, right, So there's you know,
Speaker 2: you can only study what you think of the study.
Speaker 2: And yet meanwhile there's this whole world of experience that
Speaker 2: they haven't even conceived of, so they're not studying it.
Speaker 2: So you know, I've seen again, I.
Speaker 3: Talked about it.
Speaker 2: I think in one of the episodes, first episodes of
Speaker 2: Sex Is Medicine. How I was present for this, the
Speaker 2: transformation of like the vestibular bulbs to become the clitteral bulbs.
Speaker 2: Y'all Western science changes so much, you know.
Speaker 3: Just decides like, oh shit, that was wrong. This is
Speaker 3: actually true, you know, like, oh, sorry, that study was
Speaker 3: fucked up, so we're gonna do a new So like, really,
Speaker 3: none of this is carved in stone.
Speaker 2: This is one of the researchers, researches that I really
Speaker 2: love and respect Beverly. She's one of the sexual yeah,
Speaker 2: the whippo yeah, and cammusauric.
Speaker 3: Right. I mean I can't say a lover, but I
Speaker 3: respect her work. Right.
Speaker 2: So something that I really what makes me respect their
Speaker 2: their work together is that they say the studies indicate
Speaker 2: that this may be the case. They don't say this
Speaker 2: is it carbon stone and this is like this is gospel.
Speaker 3: They don't say it's gospel. They say, based on what
Speaker 3: we've observed this, it indicates that this may be true.
Speaker 2: Right, So, but at least so it leaves the door open.
Speaker 2: It says, this is what we're seeing. You know, this
Speaker 2: is what it indicates.
Speaker 3: Try it for yourself, right, This is what we believe
Speaker 3: to be true. But it can change as more study occurs.
Speaker 2: So that's the important thing to keep in mind, particularly
Speaker 2: when it comes to sexuality research, because it's you know,
Speaker 2: it's been such as such a a misogynistically dominated field.
Speaker 3: I'll just say and also, you know what are the
Speaker 3: bodies The bodies are typically in these studies. These bodies
Speaker 3: are typically white bodies.
Speaker 2: Well, even though we're all human, our bodies respond differently
Speaker 2: to our environments, and our respodies respond differently to stressed
Speaker 2: And you know, we all have different cultures and our
Speaker 2: bodies of accumulated stressed intergenerationally in different ways due to
Speaker 2: the different environments in which we've existed. So, you know,
Speaker 2: there's so many pieces to the puzzle. It's really dangerous
Speaker 2: to just do a cut and drive. This is the
Speaker 2: way it is all the time. So anyway, that's another rant.
Speaker 2: Let me hand the mic backer. We're never going to
Speaker 2: get through this.
Speaker 1: No, I love it. It's wonderful and toosy.
Speaker 3: Just things to think about, y'all.
Speaker 1: So moving on beyond nerve innervation, we also know that
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of women and people who
Speaker 1: of vaginas are capable of vaginal orgasms. Another pet peeve
Speaker 1: of mine is sex educator saying that only like eighteen
Speaker 1: to twenty percent of women experience vaginal orgasms.
Speaker 4: Bust.
Speaker 1: Those people don't know how to read read scientific articles.
Speaker 1: The study that seems to be the one that everyone's
Speaker 1: pointing to says something entirely different. So this is a
Speaker 1: US study from twenty fifteen. I'm pretty sure this is
Speaker 1: the one everyone's referencing because I couldn't find another. And
Speaker 1: the quote in it is while eighteen percent of women
Speaker 1: reported that intercourse alone was sufficient for orgasm, thirty six
Speaker 1: reported c literal stimulation was necessary for orgasm during intercourse,
Speaker 1: and an additional thirty six percent indicated that while clteral
Speaker 1: stimulation was not needed, their orgasms felt better if they're literal,
Speaker 1: If their clittericist is simulate it during intercourse. So that
Speaker 1: means so people people have said it's just eighteen percent,
Speaker 1: but that second thirty six percent is saying that they're
Speaker 1: having orgasms without their clutter is being stimulated. But that
Speaker 1: is really nice if it is well.
Speaker 2: And I think you can also add those to the
Speaker 2: eighteen percent, like the if you have the thirty six
Speaker 2: to eighteen you have right, yeah, yeah, make me do math,
Speaker 2: but but I could, but.
Speaker 3: Eighteen and you come up with fifty four more more
Speaker 3: than not yeah, more than not yeah. And I what
Speaker 3: I don't like.
Speaker 2: Is when when these kind of things come out and
Speaker 2: folks use it as a weapon to be like, only
Speaker 2: twenty percent of women are having vaginal orgasms, So men
Speaker 2: need to do better. Look, we all need to do better.
Speaker 2: We are all miseducated. We all need we all need.
Speaker 3: An actual, accurate education that.
Speaker 2: Is motivated to support our liberation and our realization and
Speaker 2: our reclamation the humans. And a lot of the information
Speaker 2: that's out there is not it's about selling you yet.
Speaker 3: It's about selling you yet, so.
Speaker 1: Ye, and making you feel bad about yourself so to
Speaker 1: keep coming back.
Speaker 3: We don't.
Speaker 2: We want you to come back because you feel good
Speaker 2: about yourself. We want, we want you, We want to
Speaker 2: help you feel good about yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we do, we do, and you never anything from
Speaker 3: us to do that. We just want you to feel
Speaker 3: good about yourself, exactly.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Davy. So so we have that study. But
Speaker 1: also we with our combined years of expertise and in
Speaker 1: our work, know that people are very capable of having
Speaker 1: feeling in their vagina and they're very capable of cultivating
Speaker 1: orgasm when there was none before. You've done it. I've
Speaker 1: done it too. I started out with a numb vagina
Speaker 1: as well and had to cultivate it through practice. And
Speaker 1: so let's move on to some talking about some solutions. So, Davy,
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if you would be I'll say, I'm wondering
Speaker 1: you would be open to answering why do a lot
Speaker 1: of people feel numb or have blocks in their vagina?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? And I wanted to what did you just say
Speaker 3: before that? I was gonna say one.
Speaker 1: Thing about expertise that you can cultivate orgasm in the vagina.
Speaker 3: No, God, moving on. I'll let it go. We'll let
Speaker 3: it go if it comes back like a little but
Speaker 3: I'll pick it up. Okay, So let's talk about the.
Speaker 2: Various reasons that you may have you may not be
Speaker 2: able to feel your partner's penis inside your vagina. Let's
Speaker 2: just use the words that the algorithm mates your partner's
Speaker 2: p inside your v Okay.
Speaker 3: So the first.
Speaker 2: Reason for me that that again chokes my chain or
Speaker 2: you know, just gets me in a little bit of
Speaker 2: a tizzy, is y'all, it takes us twenty to forty
Speaker 2: five minutes for our internal erectile tissue to fully, fully, fully,
Speaker 2: fully fully fully engorge. Now that doesn't mean that you
Speaker 2: need to be penetrating somebody for twenty to forty minutes
Speaker 2: before they feel anything. Doesn't mean you need to like
Speaker 2: go down on your partner for twenty to forty minutes
Speaker 2: before you feel anything, though, please do, if you're inclined,
Speaker 2: please do. But what we're saying is that it takes
Speaker 2: twenty to forty minutes of sustained arousal arousal in order
Speaker 2: for her internal erectal tissue to fully engorge. So she
Speaker 2: can think herself into arousal. Absolutely, Just like you gentlemen
Speaker 2: can think yourself into an erect penist, a woman can
Speaker 2: think herself into an erect vagina, right. And the more
Speaker 2: erect we are, the more our inny is erect engorged,
Speaker 2: the more sensation we feel in our entire organ. So
Speaker 2: a lot of women are being penetrated before they have
Speaker 2: an erection. So, y'all, dudes, like, if you think you
Speaker 2: have an audi, We've said this before, Like the female
Speaker 2: body has more erectal tissue internally than the man has externally.
Speaker 3: So you have an audi.
Speaker 2: We have an inny, and our rectal tissue is dispersed
Speaker 2: in this like beautiful kind of low TuS looking way right,
Speaker 2: And so imagine if when it takes you, if it
Speaker 2: takes you twenty to forty five minutes to achieve a
Speaker 2: full erection. We're not talking about, you know, like a
Speaker 2: half erection. We're saying a full erection. It took twenty
Speaker 2: to forty five minutes. Dude, y'all would be going to
Speaker 2: the doctor's popping pills. I'm just saying, you already. Are
Speaker 2: you already? Are If it took you takes you twenty
Speaker 2: five minutes to get a full erection, You're like, what
Speaker 2: the fuck is wrong?
Speaker 3: Right? Right? But for us as women, that's the way
Speaker 3: our body works.
Speaker 2: It's this because it's inside, because it's this like there's
Speaker 2: so much engorgement required, and it's like a slow kind
Speaker 2: of like if you think of like a big pot
Speaker 2: on the stove with this low flame, it's gonna take
Speaker 2: a while to get really hot, but then that shit's
Speaker 2: gonna simmer all night, it's gonna keep it's just gonna
Speaker 2: stay hot for a very very long time. And that
Speaker 2: is a woman's body. As we get in gorge, our
Speaker 2: pot gets hot and it stays hot. It's like a
Speaker 2: cast iron pot. That shit's gonna stay hot until the
Speaker 2: next day.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the way y'all are sexually trained in this culture,
Speaker 2: I'm saying sexually trained in this culture, particularly when you're
Speaker 2: trying to masturbate to poor and as quickly and quietly
Speaker 2: as you can, you're training your whole sexual neural pathways
Speaker 2: to come as quick as you can so the sex
Speaker 2: is over. First of all, you're penetrating her before she's
Speaker 2: ready to be penetrated. Nine times out of ten, unless
Speaker 2: you've learned differently, you're penetrating her before she's ready to
Speaker 2: be penetrated. Number one and number two, your pot's boiled
Speaker 2: over and her still getting warm up.
Speaker 3: She's not even she's like still.
Speaker 2: Lukewarm, and you're done right. So you man, you need
Speaker 2: to learn to last longer. You need to learn to
Speaker 2: slow down. You need to learn how to let her
Speaker 2: pot warm up and simmer and you know, and stay
Speaker 2: like hot and full. You can give her all kinds
Speaker 2: of orgasms. All there's fifteen different orgasms you can choose from.
Speaker 2: Have an orgasm party, give her all these orgasms just
Speaker 2: from Youoni massage and Youoni licking and you only play
Speaker 2: and all that, and then you penetrate her after she's
Speaker 2: already had several internal orgasm. Then you penetrate her penetrator,
Speaker 2: which is actually going to help you last longer, and
Speaker 2: then you make love for you know, twenty forty thirty
Speaker 2: sixty minutes. Beyond that, however, the numbers go just keep going, right.
Speaker 2: So the idea here is that the sex is over before.
Speaker 3: She's even warmed up. That's the point of my big
Speaker 3: rant here.
Speaker 2: It's in heterosexual relationship dynamics, the sex is over and
Speaker 2: she's not even warmed up. Right, So if she's not
Speaker 2: erected in gorge, she's not gonna have as much sensation
Speaker 2: in her vagina. And this is just a fact.
Speaker 3: I've experimented with this shit because I'm like, am I
Speaker 3: saying what is this really true?
Speaker 2: Yes, I've experimented with this to find out, and yes
Speaker 2: I can attest to this, and so can multiple students.
Speaker 2: We have so much more sensation in our vagina if
Speaker 2: we have been warmed up, so to speak, for twenty
Speaker 2: minutes before penetration. Thirty minutes, Yes, before penetration, there's so
Speaker 2: much more sensation. The other thing, as I said before,
Speaker 2: is trauma. We hold trauma in the body, and at
Speaker 2: least at least one in three women has experienced some
Speaker 2: form of sexual trauma. Okay, So, and whether that is
Speaker 2: direct physical trauma, or it's verbal trauma from living in
Speaker 2: a culture that teaches us that are you know, says
Speaker 2: all kinds of horrible things about vaginas and vagina owners. Right,
Speaker 2: So how our nervous system responds to that toxic stress
Speaker 2: determines affect shall I say, how we're able to respond
Speaker 2: sexually in the moment. And so for sexual trauma, it
Speaker 2: lodges in the sexual organ right, And so you know,
Speaker 2: for those of us who are our survivors of early
Speaker 2: childhood sexual trauma, there's a healing and a reparation process
Speaker 2: that many of us have had to go through and
Speaker 2: continue to go through.
Speaker 3: Because there's layers to trauma.
Speaker 2: And for those who maybe haven't experienced a direct physical assault,
Speaker 2: who may have psychological or emotional traumas or even just
Speaker 2: you know, in working with clients for again seventeen years,
Speaker 2: for most folks.
Speaker 3: The way we we.
Speaker 2: View trauma is as a mass it's shock trauma. You know,
Speaker 2: it's like a massive violent incident like I was raped
Speaker 2: or I was assaulted. That's a shock trauma, right, So
Speaker 2: that's one incident trauma. But trauma is also cumulative. So
Speaker 2: growing up in a society that tells you that you're ugly,
Speaker 2: or you're undesirable, or you're not as good as or
Speaker 2: you're stinky or you're funky, or there's something wrong with you,
Speaker 2: or you're in fear, you're less than or you're not okay,
Speaker 2: or your sexual orientation.
Speaker 3: Is not okay.
Speaker 2: All of that is is psychic trauma. It's psychic trauma,
Speaker 2: and so it may not be a one time overt
Speaker 2: physical act, but it is accumulative.
Speaker 3: You know, it's a cumulative.
Speaker 2: Event that does store in our bodies and it does
Speaker 2: affect our nervous system, right.
Speaker 3: And also, you know.
Speaker 2: There's that we're talking about sexual trauma, but there's also
Speaker 2: the fucking trauma of life, y'all.
Speaker 3: And like I didn't, I did not come up on
Speaker 3: the you know, top of the food chain. I came
Speaker 3: up through struggle.
Speaker 2: I came up from fucking suffering, like I had to
Speaker 2: rebirth myself like so many times. And I know many
Speaker 2: of our listeners like, you know, it's it's it's it's
Speaker 2: hard out here on these streets.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of shit going on.
Speaker 2: There's you know, there's there's intentional suffering being inflicted upon
Speaker 2: multiple people. And this is not new, but the intensity
Speaker 2: has increased, And so do not discount the impact of
Speaker 2: toxic stress of our fucking culture, of our society. Our
Speaker 2: society is like just one big fucking toxic stress bloom
Speaker 2: right now. So don't discount the impact of that on
Speaker 2: your nervous system. And that is absolutely going to affect
Speaker 2: your sensitivity or sensation and your ability to respond. So
Speaker 2: this is why, to Elena's point she's made so many
Speaker 2: times in so many of these episodes, we say that
Speaker 2: the goal of TNTRA is connection. I'm just gonna say
Speaker 2: that the goal of human sexuality where it starts, is
Speaker 2: your connection. If you're not connected to yourself and you're
Speaker 2: not connected to each other, you're not connected to life,
Speaker 2: and you're not connected to like the whole intention and
Speaker 2: purpose of human sexual activity, which is to build upon,
Speaker 2: foster and increase that sense of connection with ourselves, each
Speaker 2: other in our environment. And so the place to begin
Speaker 2: in de armoring your vagina and creating more sensation in
Speaker 2: your vagina is connection to yourself, to your beautiful, beautiful body,
Speaker 2: to your beautiful beautiful Yoni.
Speaker 3: Because she's telling you a story, what is she saying?
Speaker 2: And then to this beautiful human being that you're choosing
Speaker 2: to be this intimate with That's that's the place, that's
Speaker 2: where de armoring starts.
Speaker 3: It starts in the heart and then it trickles down
Speaker 3: to your yonie. That's what I have to say about it.
Speaker 1: Those beautiful davy and I second all of that. And
Speaker 1: also I wanted to add that lack of education is
Speaker 1: a huge component as well. Right, so, just not even
Speaker 1: really understanding how our body works. I think we did,
Speaker 1: you did talk about that a little bit earlier, but
Speaker 1: also not knowing that we have a right to masturbate
Speaker 1: and that that that this is this is the point
Speaker 1: of connection for our sexual being, that will allow us
Speaker 1: to connect to ourselves and to explore what our bodies
Speaker 1: are capable of doing. And then when we're there, what
Speaker 1: do we actually do in our masturbation practice to facilitate
Speaker 1: greater pleasure and expansion and arousal so that we are
Speaker 1: able to experience all of these wonderful different flavors of
Speaker 1: orgasm and pleasure. And I just want to.
Speaker 2: Say that about masturbation, just how empowering it is, y'all.
Speaker 2: I just want to say this about like as a woman,
Speaker 2: as a yoni owner, like the empowerment that comes from
Speaker 2: being able to awaken my own vagina has been such
Speaker 2: a huge reclamation like yes, your partner, and yes, you know,
Speaker 2: like we're not isolated and blahdyh blah. You know, healing
Speaker 2: doesn't occur in isolation, but you know some things are just.
Speaker 3: Like like you just need to be with your own
Speaker 3: precious little self and go into your own little nooks
Speaker 3: and crannies.
Speaker 2: Like literally and figuratively, and just be with yourself and
Speaker 2: then move through this process of moving through like numbness
Speaker 2: to irritation to pain and the emotions that like are
Speaker 2: stimulated from that, and then being able.
Speaker 3: To breathe and relax.
Speaker 2: Through that to the other side to where blossoms into
Speaker 2: like oh my god, like toe curling, mind blowing orgasms.
Speaker 3: And like you did that.
Speaker 2: You did that for yourself and the confidence that that instills,
Speaker 2: and then you get to like bring that like whole
Speaker 2: vagina to your partner and like, yeah, look I did this,
Speaker 2: Like my whole relationship to partnership shifted. It transformed tremendously
Speaker 2: when I became responsible from my own orgasm and I
Speaker 2: knew that I could give myself better orgasms than any dude.
Speaker 2: Off the street, any dude at the club, any dude
Speaker 2: on Tinder whatever. Like I when I became my primary
Speaker 2: source of mind blowing orgasms, I was like, what you
Speaker 2: got for me?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 3: D It was totally different.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, what's in it for me? Like
Speaker 3: I know what's in it for you because I got skills,
Speaker 3: But what's in it for me? Like are you gonna
Speaker 3: blow my mind? Are you going? Can you do better
Speaker 3: than I can do myself? Can you do me better
Speaker 3: than I can do myself?
Speaker 2: And for a lot no, now, So there was a
Speaker 2: lot of you know, heterosexual intercourse that was missed for
Speaker 2: many people because I could do a better job on
Speaker 2: myself because that is empowerment. So I'm not relying or
Speaker 2: dependent on somebody else who maybe is not trained or developed.
Speaker 2: I don't have to sell myself short because I am
Speaker 2: empowered in my own orgasm. And then when I encountered
Speaker 2: a partner or partners who maybe they didn't know everything,
Speaker 2: but they wanted to learn, and they were they were
Speaker 2: as invested in my pleasure and orgasm as I was,
Speaker 2: and I was as invested in their pleasure and orgasm
Speaker 2: as they were.
Speaker 3: Like that's a match right there, that's a match so.
Speaker 1: Beautiful. Yeah, So for all of you out there, if
Speaker 1: any of you are wanting to awaken your vagina, the
Speaker 1: next question is how do you do that? And so
Speaker 1: we have we've hinted at a lot of it here.
Speaker 1: But just like what we were just saying, you want
Speaker 1: to start by cultivating a masturbation practice. And when we
Speaker 1: say that, we don't mean like you're just gonna like
Speaker 1: quick go into a room and hide and like rub
Speaker 1: on your clitteriss and have a really fast orgasm and
Speaker 1: then that's it and you're done. Or you do that
Speaker 1: at the end of the night in order to go
Speaker 1: to sleep, or when you're stressed, you just go quick,
Speaker 1: have an orgasm and then you're done. We're talking about
Speaker 1: an intentional masturbation practice that it's like a date you
Speaker 1: set with yourself in order to love yourself and explore
Speaker 1: your pleasure. And you want to give yourself time to
Speaker 1: do that. You know you could it needs to be
Speaker 1: more than ten minutes, right, It could be twenty minutes,
Speaker 1: It could be thirty minutes, it could be an hour,
Speaker 1: it could be more. But you really want to set
Speaker 1: out aside, put it in your calendar and practice masturbating
Speaker 1: on a regular basis. And then when you're there, Oh, sorry,
Speaker 1: do you have something into that?
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm like I'm loving it. I'm just like
Speaker 2: I'm over here dancing.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so when you're there in your masturbation practice that
Speaker 1: it's going to do two things. A you're going to
Speaker 1: really get a chance to revel in your pleasure and
Speaker 1: explore your pleasure and really like really give your body
Speaker 1: that time to become aroused, like Davy was talking about
Speaker 1: before that twenty to forty minutes that you need to
Speaker 1: become fully aroused. And two, you're also going to explore
Speaker 1: what parts of your body are numb or irritated or
Speaker 1: feel pain. And that's where you have the opportunity to
Speaker 1: really stay with those parts of the body, focus on
Speaker 1: them and kind of use your breath and your awareness
Speaker 1: and your relaxation to stay with them and give them
Speaker 1: a chance to release from your body. So we're healing
Speaker 1: and we're pleasuring in those practices, and those two things
Speaker 1: together are going to move you closer and close. We're
Speaker 1: in closer to having vaginal orgasms if you want then.
Speaker 3: Having all kinds of sensation in vagina.
Speaker 2: And let me tell you, there is like for your
Speaker 2: male partner to put his guys. And I've heard this
Speaker 2: from so many men. Okay, so I've heard this from
Speaker 2: so many men. There is a tangible difference for them
Speaker 2: to put their vasra, their penis in a wholly healed
Speaker 2: vagina versus a vagina.
Speaker 3: That's that's that's still numb, right, and so and that
Speaker 3: and again not shade.
Speaker 2: There's no shade because we are conditioned to numbness in
Speaker 2: so many ways, not just our vaginas. Our spirits are
Speaker 2: conditioned to numbness. We are conditioned to numbness in this culture. Right,
Speaker 2: So this is why we have to, you know, take
Speaker 2: initiative to to to heal and awaken.
Speaker 3: That's why. That's why.
Speaker 2: And the other thing is that penises are like a
Speaker 2: ten antennas their sense to energy. And so for a
Speaker 2: man who has an awakened avazra, who's transformed his penis
Speaker 2: into a vazra, a healing tool, a divine thunderbolt of wisdom.
Speaker 2: For a tontric male, they can sense and feel when
Speaker 2: they enter a woman who has a healed vagina and
Speaker 2: an awakened vagina versus vagina that needs some healing and
Speaker 2: no shade, because you know that it's a beautiful thing
Speaker 2: to have a vagina that needs healing, and that's one
Speaker 2: of the beautiful things that are Vazra owners.
Speaker 3: Who are you know who have who have realized.
Speaker 2: That's why when men are sexually awakened and sexually realize,
Speaker 2: they become healers and they can assist in that process, right,
Speaker 2: they can assist in that practice. And this is where
Speaker 2: we get to be responsible for our own healing. Ladies,
Speaker 2: like I de armored my pussy, I did I did that.
Speaker 2: I did that, and yes I had a little help
Speaker 2: from some friends along the way.
Speaker 3: Women and men little help from our friends.
Speaker 2: And I know that I am my primary source of
Speaker 2: empowerment and healing. I know that if there's something that
Speaker 2: comes up, I.
Speaker 3: Can work with it.
Speaker 2: I can deal it, I can heal and transform it myself.
Speaker 2: And then if I need support, I can ask for
Speaker 2: that support.
Speaker 3: Because I've healed those obstacles to me asking for support. Right.
Speaker 3: So that's why we're sharing this with you, is because
Speaker 3: we want you to be empowered. We want you. You
Speaker 3: deserve more than ann vagina.
Speaker 2: Don't let these women who have unactualized vaginas on the
Speaker 2: internet try and enable you to like, what is it
Speaker 2: that codependency was Like, no, we can just both stay stuck. No,
Speaker 2: we'll just You deserve better than that type of relationship
Speaker 2: with your Instagram providers.
Speaker 3: You do. So don't let these people on.
Speaker 2: The internet, like you know, whatever pat you into into
Speaker 2: into complacency, invite you into complacency.
Speaker 3: There's so much more for you.
Speaker 2: And when you have a healthy, healed and awakened vagina,
Speaker 2: you have a healthy, heal and awakened life. And like,
Speaker 2: people can't fucking gaslight you, and they just can't play.
Speaker 3: They can't like bullshit you.
Speaker 2: Anymore, and they can't take advantage of you anymore, and
Speaker 2: your boundaries are better, Like this is all my my
Speaker 2: experience and experience versudent, It's the truth. It's the truth,
Speaker 2: and you're the confusion. Like you, it goes away like
Speaker 2: you were anchored. You are rooted in your in your
Speaker 2: own being. This is your own source of power and orgasm.
Speaker 3: You deserve this, This is you.
Speaker 1: So so cultivating orgasm inside the vagina or pleasure inside
Speaker 1: the vagina. So we talked about the masturbation practice and
Speaker 1: setting up the date right. So once you're there, you're
Speaker 1: at the date. Now what are we gonna do? So
Speaker 1: you want to uh a set set a good period
Speaker 1: of time. We talked about like anywhere from twenty minute
Speaker 1: and it's to an hour to just have this time
Speaker 1: to yourself. And then you really want to be intentional
Speaker 1: about it. You want to set your space beautifully so
Speaker 1: that it's pretty and calm and relaxing. And as you
Speaker 1: start your practice, you really want to relax and breathe
Speaker 1: before you even begin to touch your body. And then
Speaker 1: as you go through the process, you want to breathe
Speaker 1: and explore and really follow the pleasure before you even
Speaker 1: get into touching your vagina. Right. And this is one
Speaker 1: of the places where your clitterist really stands out, is
Speaker 1: that you can you can be playing with your clitterists. Again,
Speaker 1: for this I I would recommend not using a vibrator,
Speaker 1: but you can be playing with and stimulating your clitterist
Speaker 1: and bringing your arousal up, which will increase your engorgement.
Speaker 1: And once your arousal's up, you can start playing inside
Speaker 1: your vagina. You'll need some tools for that, most likely
Speaker 1: like a g spot massage or and a dildo. But
Speaker 1: then you can just get your arousal up and start
Speaker 1: to explore and play and see what feels good. And
Speaker 1: if you run into anything that is painful, numb, or irritated,
Speaker 1: you can just stop there and breathe and let it
Speaker 1: move through you and move out.
Speaker 2: And if you want more support with this, we are
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six releasing series of courses to support
Speaker 2: you in these deep internal healing methods. In the meantime,
Speaker 2: we have our Tentra Healing for Couples programs, which is
Speaker 2: a great place to get you started. But for these
Speaker 2: tonric masturbation practices, which are a lot, they're deep and
Speaker 2: profound and require more space and more presence, we will
Speaker 2: be releasing a series of classes to support you in that.
Speaker 2: But I do want to circle back to the discussion
Speaker 2: about using tools internally. I'm going to say that I
Speaker 2: highly recommend not using vibrating tools inside your vagina for
Speaker 2: this purpose. The reason is that the electronic vibration disturbs
Speaker 2: your downward avoiding winds and it can actually interfere with
Speaker 2: healing process. That's just what I've observed, and it experienced
Speaker 2: and encountered over seventeen years of dedicated practice I highly
Speaker 2: recommend against using vibrating tools inside your vagina for these
Speaker 2: specific practices. So we have tools on our old website.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're gonna go to our new website,
Speaker 2: but we highly recommend like honey dipper wands, highly recommend
Speaker 2: like the crystal wands and chakra rubs or whatever those are,
Speaker 2: you know, whatever, there's like various kinds of them, but
Speaker 2: highly recommend, or glass, you know, or even metal, whatever
Speaker 2: substance you like feels good for you. I'm not really
Speaker 2: particular about the substance. Just make sure it's safe for
Speaker 2: your body. It's not gonna leak. I don't recommend like
Speaker 2: using regular plastic, right, be mindful of body safe use
Speaker 2: like medical grade silicone, glass, metal stuff is non porous,
Speaker 2: we'll say non porous stuff, right, Highly ride commend recommend
Speaker 2: non vibrating, nonporous objects to use inside all of your
Speaker 2: orifices for healing. Because anal healing is a thing too, Yo,
Speaker 2: That anus needs some healing too, so we'll talk about
Speaker 2: that on our Anal anal Pleasure episode. But yeah, in
Speaker 2: terms of going through the healing process with Elena, described
Speaker 2: is essentially in a nutshell, you know, an abbreviated version
Speaker 2: of what we teach and if you want support and guidance,
Speaker 2: we will be releasing a series of courses for you
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six to support you all in that.
Speaker 3: So let us know.
Speaker 2: Make sure you sign up for the Sex's Medicine weekly
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Speaker 2: our event announcements. But also if you want, if you
Speaker 2: want that type of course, let us know, because we
Speaker 2: are here to serve you.
Speaker 3: This is our job to support you in your holistic
Speaker 3: sexual wellness and holistic sexual healing. So let us know
Speaker 3: what you want. We'll create it for you.
Speaker 2: We have twenty seven years of combined expertise. You know,
Speaker 2: We've got like almost minute shit we can share with you.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the last thing I want to say about this
Speaker 1: is that in addition to having your masturbation practice, it's
Speaker 1: also really great for you to communicate with your partner
Speaker 1: about this journey that you're on that you want to
Speaker 1: expand your sensation in your vagina and just talk about
Speaker 1: that with your partner and talk about the need to
Speaker 1: slow down, explore and play when you're you know, having
Speaker 1: sex with your partner. So that you can create that
Speaker 1: space to expand.
Speaker 2: Yes, beautiful, and also a large muntre Healing for a
Speaker 2: couple's program.
Speaker 3: Hold on, can you guys hear that chihuaha? Can you
Speaker 3: hear my chihuahua? Noh, okay, so he's just he's just
Speaker 3: allowed in my ear. Good. That's good to know you
Speaker 3: guys can't hear the chihuahua.
Speaker 2: So what I was going to say is an art
Speaker 2: Tuntry Healing for Couples program coming in twenty twenty six,
Speaker 2: will also be breaking down how to move through healing
Speaker 2: blocks the all of a sudden, move through awakening the
Speaker 2: vagina for its ultimate sexual pleasure potential as a couple.
Speaker 2: So we got you, We got you to support.
Speaker 3: You in this process. Yeah, yeah, thank you, Elena. That
Speaker 3: was very deep.
Speaker 2: I just want to say that, like I kept going
Speaker 2: on these little rants because I thought you were done,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, we're closing out the show, and
Speaker 2: then you'd be like, actually, so, so pardon all my interjection,
Speaker 2: my rants that I went on while you're trying to
Speaker 2: break down how to heal your vagina, give people actual tools,
Speaker 2: not going on tangents.
Speaker 1: I love your tangents.
Speaker 3: Tools, the tangents. There we go.
Speaker 1: But that's it. That's what I have for today. We
Speaker 1: could go on and on and on about this subject,
Speaker 1: but I think for now that's a good place to close.
Speaker 3: That's a good place to close.
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