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Speaker 1: Hello, friends, and welcome to Theme Party the podcast. I'm

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your party host, Moretta mos In case this is your

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first time listening to a TPTP episode, here is what

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we're doing. Every season, I pick a theme and our

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team comes up with their own ideas for an audio

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drama that somehow fits that theme, even if it only

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fits if you ignore what the one out of ten

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dentists actually recommends. Once they have made their episode, I

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invite them to talk about it. I am thrilled to

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be here with my party guest, Jada Mendoza. Jada is

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a person trying to do her best. She is a writer,

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a voice actor, and just generally a storyteller trying to

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make her way. Given the chance, she would do storytelling

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for the rest of her life. Jada, please say hello hello. So,

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as part of every single episode so far, for our interviews,

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I have been describing what kind of party I think

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my guests are Jada. For you, I think because of

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the storytelling element, I think you would be a murder

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mystery party, no real murders involved. Again because of the

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storytelling element, and I know how much storytelling has to

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do with your whole life. The elements of trying to

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parse out motivations for each character, filling in their backstory,

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hinting to the audience about your love of fan fiction.

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I feel like that would be a big element of

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trying to solve the mystery before the end of the party.

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Do you agree that this would be your kind of

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party or an I agree?

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Speaker 2: I've never been to a murder mystery party. You must,

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I should, But I've been listening to the other episodes

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and I was trying to think in my head of

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like what party I thought I would be, And in

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my head, I was like, maybe a book club meeting

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or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that was my first thought, and I was like,

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that feels not wrong, But I don't think it's quite

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on the nose in my opinion for what I would

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assume would be your personality, because I feel like sitting

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around talking about it, maybe having a glass of wine

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or something. Sure, that's fine, that's a good time. But

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knowing how much you're into fandom and how much you

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like coming up with details of characters and just story building,

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having a story to build off of, reminds me more

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of you as a person than just sitting and talking

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about somebody else's story. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: That makes a lot of sense. The reason why I

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said book club or something to that effect is because

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I love discussing media. And one of my favorite things

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to do with friends is if we're companion reading or

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if we go to watch a movie or something. I

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love going somewhere to eat after and talking about what

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we just experienced together.

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Speaker 1: Totally.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Whenever we get together for a movie, me and

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my friend Melissa, I'm Melissa, we love to talk about

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the movie afterwards, whatever movie we saw. I think one

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of my favorite conversations was one that we had after

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watching the second Sonic the Hedgehog movie.

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Speaker 1: I've seen it. My kids love those, so I've seen them.

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Speaker 2: They're good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they are. I Yeah. It feels very much like

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it scratches an itch that those of us who grew

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up loving Ace finura because it's got the Jim Carrey

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and it kind of with a similar character profile that

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he has done for some of his more wacky movies.

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And it's good.

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Speaker 2: But I can with the idea of the murder mystery

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party thing because I think I'm addicted to story building

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because it's something that I just do in my spare

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time with my sister, Like me and my sister will

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play a game. Recently doing is just like making original

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characters in the SIMS. And we have all of these

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groups of characters and they all interact with each other,

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and they all have their own backstories and personal histories,

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and we made like our own Wikipedia document essentially of

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like everything they have going on, and now they all

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have kids. This took place over a couple of months,

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but we're still developing the story. Now we're in like

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the second generation lineage of the characters, so that makes

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a lot of sense. I love story.

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Speaker 1: I will confess that I the only SIM game that

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I have played was SimCity back in like what was

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that the nineties, So I'm not super like I'm familiar

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with the SAM games enough that I get it, But

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I don't know do you have to do anything beyond

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like introduce the characters and give them a place to

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interact in Like, Like how much how much are you

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directing what is happening to the Sims versus I'm just

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interacting with each other.

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Speaker 2: It's not a lot. Actually, I think the good thing

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about playing a game like the SIMS and building your

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own story world in a game like the SIMS is

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the fact that spontaneous things will happen without you manipulating

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that much. And then oftentimes we let these things happen

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and I will incorporate them into the canon lore of

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the world. So you may expect or you may want

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two specific characters to want to get together, but then

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they'll interact with another character and you'll realize, wait, the

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dynamic is better, or you like these two characters and

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how they look together better than what you intended. And

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I think that's a good practice to have, like let

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the story unfold as you create it, rather than trying

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to dictate too much on your original ideas.

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Speaker 1: So gotcha.

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Speaker 2: Basically, I'm saying you should use the SIMS to make

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Speaker 1: It's sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the same thing as like in actual play

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D and D campaigns, where the dice will often dictate

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what happens in the story. Right, that element of randomness

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gives like the story a very specific flavor, or it

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adds like a perspective that you wouldn't have expected.

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Speaker 1: Are you planning to do anything with the storylines you're

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developing the SIMS or is it just like I'm just

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watching the Petri dish and then whatever comes out of

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it comes out of it.

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Speaker 2: I do plan on like writing these things out, but

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not for for profit was the first phrase. Yeah, No,

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it's mostly for my own enjoyment, just because I feel

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that I have been writing a lot and like putting

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it out into the world versus writing for myself, which

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is what I used to do as a kid a

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lot of the time. And that kind of goes back.

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It's like my fan fiction writer background. I suppose. I

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think for now it's just for me, and then if

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I decide later on that I want to put it

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out into the world, than I will. But right now,

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it's just a me and my sister.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha all right? I love the collaboration behind that too.

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That sounds like a really fun sister activity.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'm basically the writer, and she does all of like

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the art and like stuff and blender, Like she'll pose

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the characters from the sims in Blender and she'll make

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pictures and stuff like that. Wow, we want to make

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our own compendium for these characters essentially, but yeah, that'll

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just be for us.

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Speaker 1: Sure. I love that. Oh that's gonna be so fun.

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As you guys get older, and stuff and like can

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Moving along, the theme for this season is family traditions.

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Did your story the theme?

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Speaker 2: I think so?

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Interestingly enough, when I hopped onto the show and you

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presented this idea of, like the theme is family traditions,

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I didn't have an idea like set in my mind

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to write. I think I just went to an open

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Google doc and I was like, let's write some ideas

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on what I could potentially do. And I knew that

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I wanted to do a fantasy story because at the

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time I was reading a very famous Fay Fairy book

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series that a lot of people on book talk were

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talking about, and I wanted to put my own spin

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on that genre. And so I was like, hmm, how

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could I make this about family traditions? What if I

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did a parent child strange relationship And through that I

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kind of came up with this idea of, Okay, there's

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like a lineage of monster hunters, and this parent and

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this child don't necessarily see eye tie. I ended up

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injecting a little bit of my own parental experience into it.

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my parents. But I think as we grow up and

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we sprout into adolescents, so to speak, there's a lot

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of things that can happen between you and a parent.

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because when you write something, the writer's experience is like, oh,

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write what you know.

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Speaker 1: Just planting that seed and embellishing it a little bit

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and then processing whatever comes from that.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: I like how you incorporated your own I don't know

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if you could call it traditions. I suppose it is

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kind of a tradition for parents and their kids to have,

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like some strain in the relationship at at least some

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Speaker 2: I feel like in the episode, the family tradition, so

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to speak, is the passing down of the role of

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being a monster hunter. Yeah, it's a little bit of

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jamming together of jigsaw puzzle pieces, but it's more of

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a familial expectation rather than a familial tradition. Even though

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VENN diagram.

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Speaker 1: And I do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it works specifically, it's what we're saying.

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Speaker 1: Yep, don't question it too hard. On that note, could

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you please read us your log line and your tagline. Oh,

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before we get into that, your episode title is monster,

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and I will be bleeping it out every time we

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Speaker 2: Okay for the interview, just some more.

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Speaker 1: People can listen to it. Yeah, this is our first

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episode of the podcast that has so much adult language

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in it, and that is fine. No, no, no, no no.

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warnings on there and everything, so it's fine. And I

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just am curious to know from our audience what they

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thought of that and if it added to the story

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in people's opinions, or if it was not a big

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deal at all, or because I know that we talked

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one of those for us that maybe use adult language

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every day in our lives, it's not that big of

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a deal. But I don't know how other people feel

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about it, So I'd be curious.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think i'd be curious about it as well,

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mostly because before the episode actually released, I was wondering, Oh,

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is what I've put in the script too much? Is

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the title too much? But I think at the time

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when we did have those conversations, I was very firm

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about the title because of how I guess important you know,

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the word is to the lore of the story, like.

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Speaker 1: The impact of that harsh of a word being involved

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and just the idea of like you're a monster,

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like it conveys the sort of social history of the

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greater story of the piece. Yeah. It also is like

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a very shock value title, I suppose.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's basically a slur, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, so I think it's only acceptable

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in this case because it's not a real slur in

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the real world.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, And we do. You do use the word

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quite a few more times throughout the episode, I'm not

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in the slur context rather.

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Speaker 2: To your point. Also, everybody swears every day. It's either

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that or I have the mouth of a sailor. Apparently, like, well,

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the word is used as you know, an emphasis indicator.

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I don't know. I hope people are okay with it.

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Speaker 1: I would be surprised if too many people were completely

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turned off by the use of it. But I also

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have the mouth of a sailor, so maybe I'm I

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don't know. We'll see, we'll see what the numbers say.

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I guess. People are free to download and listen if

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they want to, but I hope they do all the same.

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Could you please read us your log line and your tagline.

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Speaker 2: My mother, my monster, and me and a prejudiced monster

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Hunter sets out to stop her rebellious daughter's elopement with

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her monster boyfriend.

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Speaker 1: Very nice. Jada's roles in making Monsterfucker include writer, assistant director,

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casting director, production coordinator, producer, and voice actor. Let's listen

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to a sample of your episode.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if that's where she was headed next.

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I can point you in the right direction for a pride. Uh,

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you're sure on my parents' graves.

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Speaker 2: I kind of ship them, Fiona. What they're kind of

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made for each other. Two rogues led astray by their

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graying morals. Maybe they'd be good for each other.

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Speaker 1: That's not what this story's about.

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Speaker 2: Whatever. Anyway, you were saying, she's been a single mom

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raising her daughter for over twenty years. She's touch star, Fiona.

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What a little drama ever heard anyone?

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Speaker 4: Anyway, the interaction didn't end the way you would think, Amilio.

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Speaker 3: I'm okay, h I just need a moment.

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Speaker 1: No, you're not.

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Speaker 4: You've been in this form since graduation this morning, and

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you're anxious. It's making it worse. Just be yourself, please.

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You shouldn't have to.

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Speaker 1: Do that, Amelia. Get away from that thing.

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Speaker 4: Mom, I've been lying to you. Garrett isn't my boyfriend?

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Speaker 1: Amelia? Are you sure you want to do this?

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Speaker 4: Please?

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Speaker 1: So God, Demon, I knew it. How did you choose

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the names of your characters? And did you try doing

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it another way that didn't work for you?

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Speaker 2: Because I am or I identify as a writer, I

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love coming up with names for my characters, and I

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have in my phone a list of character names that

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I like that I will use for games or stories

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or whatever. I feel since you know they're human names,

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I can usually come up with some on the spot.

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But for the demon folk names, I remember I was

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having trouble with it because it's not something that I

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normally do or something that I would normally think about.

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So I did use one of those like fantasy name generators.

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine you've got a zulgeiaf logged in your

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in your document?

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Speaker 2: No, of course not. But yeah, I love coming up

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with names for my characters. I feel like I gravitated

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towards names that end with an uh, sound because it's

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like Gemma, Amelia, Fiona. I don't know if that's like

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a familial naming convention that they do, but it just

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ended up being that way.

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Speaker 1: How about. I know, as we were going through you

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writing your story, I got really stuck on Trevor Stabbington. Yeah,

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the no spoilers, but the assassin sent to kill Jemma. Yeah,

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but Stabbington just calling to you as the name of

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the who doesn't even stab anybody by the way, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you think about it, the bad guys

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are named very literally. I think Ernest Goodman is one

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of the ones that I really wanted to use, just

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because first and last name. Yeah. First of all, the

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fact that he's a con man and his front name

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is like Ernest Goodman is really funny to me. There's

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like sort of a double meaning thing going on there.

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But Trevor Stabbington I kind of just liked, and I

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did kind of take it from somewhere. Oh in Tangled,

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there's two twin thieves in that movie, and I think

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somewhere I read because I do have the art book

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four Tangled, I think their last name is Stabbington or

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they're considered the Stabbington Brothers, so really, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I did not know that. Uh oh, don't sue us,

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Disney hopefully not.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, when the name for an assassin came up,

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I was just like, it would be really funny if

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his name was something very standard like Trevor and his

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last name was Stabbington. And I think everybody in production

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really loved that because I kept hearing comments about it

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as we included more people, and Tyler, who plays Trevor Starbington,

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I think he got a good kick out of that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Tyler did an excellent job as Trevor Stabington. Sure. Yeah.

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Could you please tell us which character you most identified

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with and why, or alternatively, as you were making your episode,

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did you have someone or something specific in mind as

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inspiration for a character.

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Speaker 2: I definitely identify most with Amelia. I think Amelia is

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the character that I based most off of my experience

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growing up and feeling sort of like a black sheep

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wanting to do something creative with my career, so I

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definitely relate to her. But I also relate a lot

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to Fiona, who is the character that I play, mostly

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because I based Fiona off of myself as a teenager

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and I think that's evident in the fact that she

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ships these two characters, the two bad guys together, which

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is something that I still do to this day, even

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as a twenty seven year old. Yeah. Yeah, But I

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think there's an aspect of Fiona that I hope people

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caught up on. But when I was a teenager, and

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I think this is a common experience that everybody has.

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and you think you're right, and you think you're maybe

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a little bit morally above everybody else. And so you know,

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she speaks her mind about the politics of the situation

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with the statue of her grandmother, and she learns to

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better understand people and to dig deeper and be a

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little bit more empathetic and give people the benefit of

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the doubt before judging people super harshly. And I think

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that's a lesson that I've learned as I've grown up

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and grown into my late twenties. So, yeah, Amelia and

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Fiona are the two that I most relate to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Fiona starts out with a little bit of that

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do your own research energy at the beginning of the episode.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, which is something that I also always do

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like I love reading Wikipedia.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, since you identify most with Amelia out of the two, currently,

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what was it about her that you felt mostly mirrored

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your experience.

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Speaker 2: I think coming to an understanding of who her mother

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was as a person and sort of taking the energy

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and the time to sort of emotionally understand her mother

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a little bit better, because obviously at the beginning of

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the episode, Jemma is very prejudiced towards these people, and

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I think if you grow up with your parent and

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sort of budding heads a little bit politically, there's going

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to be some disagreement there. But also it was important

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for me at the end of the episode the second episode,

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for her to reconcile with her mother and sort of

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accept her and readopt her, especially since there's this huge

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confrontation where she's like, ah, I wish you were dead,

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like she tries to kill her in effect, but can't

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do it. I really wanted her to come back and

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sort of say, no, I'm not getting rid of you.

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I still want you to be a part of my life.

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It's something that has been really important for me moving

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into adulthood, is realizing, oh, I am not my parent

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and I don't have to make the same choices, and

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you know, I don't have to live my life by

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a rubric of societal expectations or parental expectations or anybody else.

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And of course I'm still working through that. I'm still

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you know, you struggle with things, and progress is not

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linear and all of that sort of stuff. But it's

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been important to me to be like, even if we

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may have different opinions, we're still a family and I

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still love you very much. Right, It's a complicated thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have found as I get older that I

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had the expectation as a younger person that older people

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know things and eventually, someday I will unlock whatever it

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is that adulthood has in store for the youth, that

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I'm going to know how to pay my taxes, I'm

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going to know how to fix my car, and like,

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you know, things like that. But also emotionally speaking too,

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and I don't know when that happens. It feels similar

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to having a kid and you just get to go

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home with a kid and it doesn't come with a manual.

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It's like, I'm sorry, I thought there were going to

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be instructions at this point. When are those coming?

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, actually, I'm going to flip the script. I

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want to pose a question to you, because you, in

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effect are the main character of the two episodes, So

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I wanted to ask how was it for you playing

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this character who is a mother but also doesn't make

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very good choices, Like how is the experience of acting

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that out and getting into character and all of that stuff.

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Speaker 1: I will say that it was really hard to say

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some of those things because I could never imagine having

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that kind of an interaction with my kids to that extreme. However,

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I do try to be aware of minor versions of

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that in my interactions with my kids. So I have

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one child who is just very naturally gifted at school,

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I don't really have to do much for them. They

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do their own homework without being prodded. They get good grades,

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like I know, they're very responsible at their age. And

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the other one is a bit of a fibber sometimes

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and will stretch the truth in order to be done

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with the task that they don't want to do. And

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they've just got some bad habits that we're working through

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and trying to give them better habits to help serve

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them later on in life. And working through that is

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a constant struggle to continue to use kind language and

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not like make what voice I am using now be

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on repeat in their head as they get older. But also,

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you know, I'm also human. I get frustrated with things,

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and I you know, I can only have a conversation

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about washing your hands in the Year of Our Lord

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twenty twenty five so many times without being like, you're

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you're this age now, how are we still? How are

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we still having to remind you that it is important

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to wash your hands thoroughly, and just like you know,

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things like that. Their personality is such that they if

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it is not interesting to them, they have a hard

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time focusing on it and sticking to it even if

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it is important. It is not to the degree at

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all that Gemma interacts with Amelia at any point in

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this story, but I think the exaggeration of it in

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the story is important to kind of see the big,

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blown up version of it. While it is not the

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same impact, it's to a degree, would have similar results

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over time if it compounded, I think in real life.

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So so just being aware of that is a.

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Speaker 2: Chore, No, it's It's something that I have thought about,

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because you know, as the years go on and I realize,

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you know, there's a bioclock thing happening for me, as

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you know acist woman. Essentially, Yeah, I think about these things,

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and I think, as I realized that I do want kids,

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I want to impart this understanding that I have learned

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with my parents that it's like your parents aren't perfect

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and a lot of things that they do aren't on purpose,

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and they are trying their best. And it was really

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important for me, especially writing the strong female character, it

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was important for me to have this aspect of depth

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and have them make mistakes and not have them be

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the perfect idea of what the character should be. Jemma

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making mistakes, the most important part of it being the

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fact that she takes accountability for those mists and tries

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to do better is really the point of her character

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arc that I wanted to focus on, and I wanted

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in the future for Amelia to understand that. I want

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to celebrate the fact that she turned around, like she

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did everything that she could to develop understanding for these

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people who she was prejudiced against and to offer that

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kindness to her, because you know, I will be mad

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at my parents for saying specific things or acting in

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a specific way towards me. But at the end of

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the day, I do recognize that they are a person.

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They're human, and they're not some figure of authority.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are definitely one, very valid reasons for

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people to disregard their parents and cut off ties with

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their parents and whatnot. Absolutely, And I think I think

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Amelia probably had a pretty good a pretty good argument

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for never wanting to see Gema again and probably would

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have been very justified in disappearing into the vast woods

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and saying that unbothered. Yeah, but I do like the

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dynamic of Fiona kind of being exactly what you said,

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the teenage version of Amelia also and kind of sticking

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and needling on the points of life. But see how

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bad she was. Why are we okay with this? And

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it's like, well, yeah, people are people, monsters, monsters are monsters,

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and people are people absolutely, and sometimes people are monsters.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah, who's the real monster at the end of

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the day. Yeah, And I think this is becoming a

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very long answer, but I will say the reason why

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I wanted that reconciliation at the end, because I think

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there is a trope in literature and TV and other

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media of a main character parting with their mother in

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some way, and that's the only way that they can

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be their own person. And I sort of wanted to

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subvert that trope that I knew about and sort of,

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you know, have the mother's still be there, have them

479
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,880
be a part of their story still, so there is

480
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,960
some element about it in their right hope.

481
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,279
Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, all right, Well, now that we've had

482
00:28:10,319 --> 00:28:14,960
our therapy session for the middle of the episode, what

483
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,839
was your biggest challenge or obstacle with making this episode.

484
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,279
Was it working through just like the emotional side of it,

485
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,000
or was it puzzling through the logistics of how to

486
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:23,920
make the story.

487
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 2: Work or I think it is a little bit of both.

488
00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:29,240
I think as a person who's been writing for a

489
00:28:29,279 --> 00:28:32,359
long time, I do have a love hate relationship with

490
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,240
the writing process because it is so difficult and obviously

491
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,000
channeling those emotions and like writing them and trying to

492
00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:44,279
convey them with themes and characters and setting and all

493
00:28:44,279 --> 00:28:47,319
of that stuff is really difficult. But the logistical process

494
00:28:47,799 --> 00:28:52,599
of production is something that I was very scared of

495
00:28:52,759 --> 00:28:56,680
at the beginning of this because I knew that I

496
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:01,079
wanted to be heavily involved. So that's just generally the

497
00:29:01,119 --> 00:29:03,599
process with theme party, that's what you take on when

498
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:08,480
you come onto this show. But yeah, it was something

499
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,319
that I was afraid of because you know, wrangling everybody

500
00:29:12,359 --> 00:29:15,279
together for a live directs is really difficult. The scheduling

501
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,119
is really.

502
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,559
Speaker 1: Hard yep especially with the size of cast that you

503
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:24,319
had in the scenes that had so many characters in them.

504
00:29:24,519 --> 00:29:28,079
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, when I released the cast list, I

505
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,720
was like, oh no, what have I done. The fact

506
00:29:31,759 --> 00:29:34,960
that the episode is two parts, I think also speaks

507
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,440
to that. But yeah, yeah, it was difference.

508
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: We wanted to keep the episodes as close to twenty

509
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,359
minutes as possible, like we did tour with the idea

510
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,440
of releasing it as one. I think splitting it into

511
00:29:46,519 --> 00:29:49,400
added some intrigue and extended our season a little bit more.

512
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,359
And I like it. I think it's fun.

513
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I also like it. I like where we ended

514
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,200
off in the first part. That Cliffhanger is really good.

515
00:29:57,359 --> 00:30:00,240
I was like, wow, good job, me wrote.

516
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: Agreed. Yeah, I like that splitting in a two made

517
00:30:06,359 --> 00:30:08,480
us come up with a made you come up with

518
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,240
a creative solution for like, how am I going to

519
00:30:12,319 --> 00:30:14,079
make people want to come back to listen to the

520
00:30:14,119 --> 00:30:16,079
second half of this rather than just like here's the

521
00:30:16,079 --> 00:30:17,119
middle chop, you know.

522
00:30:17,519 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and obviously like that was more of something that

523
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,519
I had to tackle with after the fact. I wrote

524
00:30:25,559 --> 00:30:30,799
the whole thing as essentially one feature leg strip, I guess,

525
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,359
and then it just so happened that, oh, there's like

526
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,960
a natural endpoint where it is like where the divide

527
00:30:38,279 --> 00:30:42,519
is now in the episode. So yeah, I just got lucky.

528
00:30:42,599 --> 00:30:44,920
There's a lot of cases with the logistics of the

529
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,160
production where I got really lucky. I feel very lucky

530
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,519
with the cast that I got, and I did right

531
00:30:53,119 --> 00:30:56,480
to specific actors within lengthy tangent because we have a

532
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,759
great roster of people that we work with.

533
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: We do have a great ross people that we work with.

534
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:06,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm also really thankful to Henry, who is

535
00:31:06,359 --> 00:31:09,480
the director of the two episodes, because there was kind

536
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:15,160
of a logistical issue with the original roster of production roles,

537
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,440
and Henry ended up taking on like two huge episodes,

538
00:31:20,079 --> 00:31:23,480
and he was also like a nice guiding light with

539
00:31:24,039 --> 00:31:29,079
trying to talk to people about scheduling, getting people last

540
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,480
minute to do live directs and stuff like that. So

541
00:31:31,519 --> 00:31:35,240
I'm very thankful to Henry for helping me with this process.

542
00:31:35,559 --> 00:31:38,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, Henry has been incredible for the group in just

543
00:31:39,119 --> 00:31:44,400
mentoring people through different parts of production, specifically directing, but

544
00:31:44,839 --> 00:31:47,480
you know in other aspects too. He's got a good

545
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,319
ear for acting, he has a good ear for like

546
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,359
marketing and things like that. So yeah, Henry is an

547
00:31:54,359 --> 00:31:56,079
invaluable resource and we love him.

548
00:31:56,359 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, he plays Jeeves and he's pass.

549
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: He has some wild characters in his back pocket. And I,

550
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,000
oh gosh, I would love to do an oops all

551
00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:10,640
Henry episode where he doesn't write it, but we all

552
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,839
write characters that we want to hear him do, because

553
00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:15,920
he's also an incredible storyteller, an incredible writer in his

554
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,240
own right. But I think he's so good at just

555
00:32:19,519 --> 00:32:23,400
seeing exactly how a character sounds in his mind and

556
00:32:23,599 --> 00:32:26,279
just spitting that out for you to enjoy. And that

557
00:32:26,359 --> 00:32:27,519
might be a fun game for us to do in

558
00:32:27,559 --> 00:32:27,960
the future.

559
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I will say I originally wrote Ernest

560
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:32,920
Goodman for Henry.

561
00:32:33,119 --> 00:32:35,359
Speaker 1: Oh. Interesting.

562
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: I did write Ernest Goodman for Henry to play, but

563
00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:42,319
then I heard Jonathan play Ernest and I was like,

564
00:32:42,519 --> 00:32:45,720
oh my gosh, he's really really good. Yeah, And then

565
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,880
of course Henry, I think he auditioned for Jeeves, and

566
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,200
I was like, wait, you give this character a flavor

567
00:32:53,279 --> 00:32:56,160
that I didn't even expect the same with Jamie as

568
00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,759
King b Striker too, because yeah, I originally envision King

569
00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:05,559
b Striker as more of a King George from Hamilton character.

570
00:33:06,319 --> 00:33:10,000
Oh okay, yeah, I think that was in the original pitch.

571
00:33:10,119 --> 00:33:16,599
But Jabi gave b Striker a little, dirty, nasty little

572
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:17,519
thing that I love.

573
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,119
Speaker 1: I think of the word lascivious whenever I listened to

574
00:33:20,119 --> 00:33:24,960
that performance, just like, yeah, very opposite of Gus in

575
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:25,960
Peculiar Radio.

576
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and I think it's the same guy. Yeah,

577
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,000
his ability to have that range is really incredible. Can

578
00:33:33,079 --> 00:33:37,039
we just also like highlight the acting in this, because

579
00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:38,759
first of all, you were amazing.

580
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,079
Speaker 1: Oh I'll cut that part out. That's weird.

581
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 2: Okay, No, you can't.

582
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: Thank you. I am forcing myself to accept more compliments

583
00:33:48,319 --> 00:33:51,799
as they come. Thank you, Jada, I appreciate you should.

584
00:33:52,759 --> 00:33:57,559
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, but you brought such an amazing depth to

585
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,519
Jemma that I really really love. And the time at

586
00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:03,920
which we were so uncomfortable with the time in which

587
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,559
we're recording this interview is Part two hasn't come out yet,

588
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,880
but I'm really really excited for people to hear what

589
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,880
you've done with the character in part two because it's

590
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:18,320
a very raw, very vulnerable performance that you've given her.

591
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,880
And Caroline as Amelia is just amazing.

592
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: Well, now that we're not talking about me, I can

593
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,920
gush about Caroline all day. Caroline is so good at

594
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,440
imbuing character. Like I know, I was talking about how

595
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,880
good Henry is it just taking a character and running

596
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:37,000
with it, like Caroline, when you put out the cast

597
00:34:37,039 --> 00:34:40,920
and call for somebody who could play a child version,

598
00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:44,440
a teen version, or a young adult version, and an

599
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,079
adult version of the same character, hoping to get the

600
00:34:48,079 --> 00:34:50,159
same actor to do the voice for all the parts,

601
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:52,159
so there was the continuity and it didn't sound like

602
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:57,079
different characters every time. And Caroline nailed it in her audition,

603
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,920
like it, I don't know how people do that. Yeah,

604
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:00,599
it's incredible.

605
00:35:00,679 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: I scouted out Caroline because we worked together in Peculiar Radio,

606
00:35:05,119 --> 00:35:07,679
like in the Raider's Room, and I knew she did

607
00:35:07,679 --> 00:35:11,280
good work. And I was like, hey, can you try

608
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,960
like submitting for this role, and she was like, yes,

609
00:35:15,039 --> 00:35:17,880
of course, thank you for thinking of me. She uploaded

610
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,559
her audition and I listened to it. And I was like,

611
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:25,480
that's Amelia. Whoa she is Amelia. So I was just

612
00:35:25,559 --> 00:35:29,199
really personally very toughed at the fact that I was

613
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:33,679
able to scout that out. But yeah, also in part two,

614
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:39,039
she gets really really really wrong and aggressive, which is

615
00:35:39,039 --> 00:35:40,199
exactly what I wanted.

616
00:35:40,679 --> 00:35:43,559
Speaker 1: I love that combination of desperate and aggressive at the

617
00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:46,119
same time, like just like really wrestling with what is

618
00:35:46,119 --> 00:35:47,000
happening in the scene.

619
00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, she was in it, and I cried

620
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,480
during that live director. It was very amazing. So yeah,

621
00:35:55,039 --> 00:35:58,119
mm hmmm. Yeah. And also Anthony did a really good

622
00:35:58,159 --> 00:36:02,639
job too, I did incredible. Yeah. I did write Zulgarrith

623
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:08,119
with Anthony in mind, because in LTM they do the

624
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,119
voiceover workouts and I had been in a voiceover workout

625
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,760
with Anthony a really long time ago, and I remember

626
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,079
he did a script where he showed a lot of

627
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:23,199
emotionality and vulnerability and I was like, hmm, interesting, and

628
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,280
I kept that sort of in the back of my brain.

629
00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:27,880
And then when I was writing this, there was a

630
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,079
part of me where I was like, I think this

631
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,719
is for him, and so you know, I reached out

632
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,159
to him, and of course he was very kind enough

633
00:36:37,159 --> 00:36:41,079
to submit for this. I'm very proud of the casting

634
00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:44,159
lineup that we managed to get, even though it is

635
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,599
a huge cast.

636
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: I think it was worth it though it turned out

637
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:48,840
so well.

638
00:36:49,039 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm proud of all of my actors, and I'm

639
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,920
glad that I was able to act alongside them in

640
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:55,280
a way.

641
00:36:56,119 --> 00:37:01,159
Speaker 1: So yeah, I wanted to ask about it or decision

642
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:06,159
to use some interspersed modern vernacular with the fantasy speak

643
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,280
that was in this episode. To my ear, it sounded

644
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,920
like it especially came through the Fiona character. Did you

645
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,440
do that intentionally or is it just your writing style

646
00:37:16,559 --> 00:37:20,719
to throw in like because especially the word shipped being used,

647
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,400
I don't know that that appeared in the lather rings. Yeah,

648
00:37:24,599 --> 00:37:26,559
like shipping the two characters, not just like a boat.

649
00:37:26,639 --> 00:37:28,239
Sorry audience, if you.

650
00:37:28,159 --> 00:37:32,159
Speaker 2: Were confused about that, I'm very sorry. It wasn't something

651
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,280
that I was consciously thinking of. I think it just

652
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,639
ended up coming out in the writing process. Interestingly enough,

653
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:46,280
I looked back at the original Monster documents that I

654
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,719
had when I was brainstorming and developing the idea, and

655
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,519
that scene between Ernest Goodman and Trevors Dabbington wasn't in

656
00:37:54,559 --> 00:37:55,559
the original script.

657
00:37:56,039 --> 00:37:57,159
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I.

658
00:37:57,119 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 2: Don't know if you remember, but it was in one

659
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,920
of the writer's room. So we were giving back feedback

660
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,519
and somebody was like, where did the assassin go. Oh? Yeah,

661
00:38:05,519 --> 00:38:09,239
because in the original King b Striker mentions him and

662
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,320
then he comes back all the way in the end

663
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,519
to sort of kill Gemma in a way, and we

664
00:38:14,599 --> 00:38:18,920
needed a scene where he reappeared and sort of instilled

665
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,760
his role in the story. And so I wrote that

666
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:26,519
scene between him and Ernest Goodman. And in my mind,

667
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,440
because of the way that the story is framed with

668
00:38:29,559 --> 00:38:34,559
Amelian Fiona sort of meditextually telling the story to the audience,

669
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,519
I was like, I do ship them. Even as a writer,

670
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,719
I do shift them, and so I wanted to impart

671
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:46,679
that in Fiona's character. And I don't necessarily think of

672
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:51,079
these anachronistic ideas when I'm writing this. I sort of

673
00:38:51,199 --> 00:38:54,480
just write to what feels right for the story, what

674
00:38:54,519 --> 00:38:57,440
feels correct for the story, and sort of just do

675
00:38:57,599 --> 00:39:00,960
whatever that way. But yeah, I don't know. I think

676
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,320
when you're writing things it can be very flexible. You

677
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,519
don't really see the rest of what Mortallya has become

678
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:14,239
in the years since the original story takes place, so yeah,

679
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,119
I don't know. Maybe they have AO three or fan

680
00:39:17,199 --> 00:39:20,119
fiction net in there and this is a common thing.

681
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,320
But yeah, anything goes. I'm the creator of this world.

682
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 1: I guess that's exactly right. Well, I think it really works.

683
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:29,639
Speaker 2: Thanks.

684
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, Jada, in your experience, what has been

685
00:39:33,119 --> 00:39:34,639
the biggest hit that it's time to leave her and

686
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:35,559
a party.

687
00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:41,159
Speaker 2: When I'm tired. Generally, when I want to go home,

688
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:45,159
I'm like, okay, bye, everybody, I'm leaving, so.

689
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: Like an Irish goodbye, or like, actually, do you take

690
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,119
the time to go around and say goobye everybody? Or

691
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,280
do you just like whoever's closest. Do you just kind

692
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,000
of wave and walk out.

693
00:39:52,039 --> 00:39:55,559
Speaker 2: I'm a very introverted person, so I'm not the type

694
00:39:55,559 --> 00:39:59,480
of person to like go out and have parties on

695
00:39:59,519 --> 00:40:02,519
the regular. Sure, when I'm going to an outing, it's

696
00:40:02,599 --> 00:40:05,159
usually like a family thing, so in that case, I

697
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,000
have to go around and say goodbye. But also in

698
00:40:09,079 --> 00:40:11,480
that case, if it's a family thing, I'm usually one

699
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,639
of the last people to leave anyway, especially if it's

700
00:40:14,679 --> 00:40:19,000
at a family member's house or something like that. My

701
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,960
uncle and my dad they live next to each other,

702
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,199
so I grew up with my cousins living right next

703
00:40:26,199 --> 00:40:26,639
door to me.

704
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: That's so cool.

705
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, when I tell people that, they're like, are they okay?

706
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,960
Is that I don't know. I guess people are like

707
00:40:36,679 --> 00:40:40,519
siblings not getting along or something like that. But yeah,

708
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,760
for my whole childhood, I've lived next door to my

709
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,559
cousins until you know, they moved out, had their own

710
00:40:47,559 --> 00:40:51,519
families and stuff like that. But if I have gone

711
00:40:51,559 --> 00:40:55,440
to a party next door, I can usually stay until

712
00:40:55,519 --> 00:40:58,000
the point where I'm like, I'm tired, I'm gonna go,

713
00:40:58,519 --> 00:41:00,639
and then I take the five second can walk to

714
00:41:00,679 --> 00:41:01,559
my parents' house.

715
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: I'm very interested that people ask if everything's okay because

716
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,519
of living next to your cousins. It's my understanding that,

717
00:41:09,639 --> 00:41:12,559
like this is not a universal rule, obviously, but for

718
00:41:12,639 --> 00:41:16,800
most people, the cousin relationship is on another level from

719
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,960
like siblings because like, you know, they're not your brother

720
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,199
and sister. There's that extra element of it, like you

721
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,719
know everything about each other without having the having to

722
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:25,800
sleep in the same house.

723
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, it's that's a support system in itself, Like, yeah,

724
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,360
having family very close by, literally next door. But yeah,

725
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,360
when I've said it to people, I think they're usually

726
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,639
referring to like my dad and his brother being like, oh,

727
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,119
is everything okay that you live next that they live

728
00:41:42,199 --> 00:41:43,760
next door to each other, And I'm like, yeah, I'm

729
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,280
pretty sure that's fine.

730
00:41:45,559 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: You don't have to buy a house next to your sibling.

731
00:41:48,039 --> 00:41:50,159
If you're struggling, you can live somewhere else.

732
00:41:50,639 --> 00:41:51,639
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah.

733
00:41:51,639 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: I would think that would mean it's really good if

734
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,119
they chose to live next to each other.

735
00:41:55,599 --> 00:41:59,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think mostly the case for it was

736
00:41:59,119 --> 00:42:03,800
the fact that my grandma, who is my dad's mother,

737
00:42:04,519 --> 00:42:09,000
she would go next door to cook for my uncle's house,

738
00:42:09,039 --> 00:42:11,159
like she would cook their dinner, and then she would

739
00:42:11,159 --> 00:42:13,639
come back and cook our dinner, because you know, they're

740
00:42:13,679 --> 00:42:16,440
all working and doing their own thing. So I think

741
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,440
that was more of the logistics behind it. And I

742
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:24,559
think because I'm Filipino back in the Philippines, you usually

743
00:42:25,039 --> 00:42:27,760
live in a neighborhood where all of your family are

744
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,400
very close by, So I guess that was the logic

745
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,679
behind it. I've always lived next door to my cousins.

746
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: If I bought a house next to your dad, would

747
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,360
your grandma come and cook dinner for me? Because that

748
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:41,280
sounds like a dream.

749
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,679
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe if you like Filipino food, maybe it would.

750
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 1: Hell. Yeah, the place that I started working at sells

751
00:42:49,519 --> 00:42:54,599
chicken enchilada Lumpia there now, and they're so good. We've

752
00:42:54,639 --> 00:42:59,079
got a place here in Wisconsin that makes the specialize

753
00:42:59,079 --> 00:43:01,559
in Lumpia, and we just carry one of their varieties

754
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,519
at the shop, and I want to make the pilgrimage

755
00:43:04,519 --> 00:43:06,559
to their main location so I can buy more and

756
00:43:06,679 --> 00:43:09,199
keep them in my freezer. But it's a bit of

757
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,440
a drive to just go pick up food. Yeah, but

758
00:43:12,559 --> 00:43:14,920
someday I will assemble a team and we will go

759
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,639
and stock up on pia for sure.

760
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:21,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so interesting. I love when food fusions come

761
00:43:21,079 --> 00:43:24,079
out of that, just because you know, there's such a

762
00:43:24,119 --> 00:43:27,320
mosaic of people living in the United States and Canada

763
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:32,880
where now these kinds of foods are accessible. Yeah, that's awesome.

764
00:43:33,039 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: What is your favorite Filipino food that your grandma makes?

765
00:43:37,039 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 2: My grandma doesn't cook that much anymore, just because she's

766
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,559
like eighty five now and she deserves a Actually, yeah,

767
00:43:46,639 --> 00:43:51,800
of course, recently she cooked spaghetti, which is.

768
00:43:52,039 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: Not necessary Filipino food.

769
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:59,679
Speaker 2: Well, there's this thing called Filipino spaghetti. Yeah, it's spaghetti

770
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,920
that is normal, except the tomato sauce is a little

771
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,480
bit sweeter, and it has hot dogs in it. That's

772
00:44:06,519 --> 00:44:10,239
basically all that's different about it. I feel like Italian

773
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,639
people are like a writing in the streets right now.

774
00:44:13,679 --> 00:44:16,639
But it's good, and I grew up eating it.

775
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,079
Speaker 1: I would eat it having never seen it and having

776
00:44:19,079 --> 00:44:21,199
never tasted it. I hope this isn't offensive to say,

777
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,360
but it reminds me of like a food that would

778
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,519
come from a cookbook that you give to kids to

779
00:44:26,599 --> 00:44:29,239
like get them started in the kitchen. Probably, you know,

780
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,079
like here, make some spaghetti noodles, put some sauce on there.

781
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,239
You can't brown ground beef yet, so why don't you

782
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:35,280
cut up some hot dogs in it?

783
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:35,679
Speaker 2: Yeah?

784
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: You know?

785
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like in this version it still has

786
00:44:40,039 --> 00:44:44,119
the ground beef, there's just hot dogs in it. Yeah.

787
00:44:44,199 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I was picturing it incorrectly, obviously fascinating. Well, yeah,

788
00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:50,559
I'll have to I'll have to see if I can

789
00:44:50,559 --> 00:44:51,159
find some of that.

790
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,119
Speaker 2: If you have a jolly Bee near why they sell

791
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,119
I don't, Yeah, figures.

792
00:44:58,039 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 1: I've heard such amazing things about I should find one.

793
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,280
I'm not that far from Chicago. Maybe they have one. Probably,

794
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,039
what would you recommend If I am able to find

795
00:45:06,039 --> 00:45:07,679
a jolly Be, what would you recommend I get?

796
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:12,519
Speaker 2: So I would obviously recommend the Filipino spaghetti, just because

797
00:45:12,599 --> 00:45:15,039
it's something that you got to try. Sure, the fried

798
00:45:15,079 --> 00:45:17,079
chicken is always really good at jolly Be.

799
00:45:17,639 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: I love fried chicken.

800
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:25,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're feeling very adventurous, I would recommend that

801
00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:30,599
you get Pala book. It's like you know Vermicelli noodles.

802
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,800
It's like that and has like an orange sauce. It

803
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:39,079
has ground poor and normally when you get it from

804
00:45:39,159 --> 00:45:41,519
like a catering thing, or if somebody makes it at home,

805
00:45:41,559 --> 00:45:43,920
they'll have like hard boiled eggs in it. But I

806
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,199
don't think the jolly Be version does. How do I

807
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,920
describe the taste of this? Actually it's just good, It's

808
00:45:50,039 --> 00:45:50,800
very savory.

809
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: What is the orange sauce? Maybe that is going to

810
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:54,960
crack this far?

811
00:45:55,039 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 2: I actually don't know. I feel like it's This is

812
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,239
a question that I always ask my mom because she

813
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,320
knows how to make Pila book. But people use like

814
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:11,079
shrimp in it. Sometimes there's also maybe a nato seed

815
00:46:11,639 --> 00:46:14,199
is probably an ingredient in it, and that's probably what

816
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,119
makes it orange. Sure, but other than that. It's a

817
00:46:17,159 --> 00:46:20,079
mystery to me. I feel like I'm constantly asking this

818
00:46:20,159 --> 00:46:22,760
question to my parents about like what's in Pala book?

819
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:23,599
Why is it orange?

820
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to I am an adventures eater, so

821
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,840
I would definitely give that a try.

822
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good.

823
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,679
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I will keep an eye out for a

824
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,280
jolly Bee. Maybe jolly Be would very kindly put one

825
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,239
here where I am so I don't have to go

826
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:36,480
chase one down. Thank you.

827
00:46:36,639 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 2: This is a campaign.

828
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 1: This is now a campaign. I am asking you once

829
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,800
again to put a jolly Be in my neighborhood. Thank you.

830
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 2: Well, we'll get a petition to get there. Something is

831
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:48,119
going to.

832
00:46:48,159 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: Have I'll pass it around for signatures, for sure. I

833
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,039
think it ties in nicely to what we've been talking about.

834
00:46:53,039 --> 00:46:55,639
What is the most memorable party you've ever been to?

835
00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 2: The most recent one is for my my maternal grandmother,

836
00:47:03,199 --> 00:47:06,360
who I went to see back in the Philippines six

837
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:13,280
months ago. Because she essentially was the first person amongst

838
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,679
her siblings to turn eighty years old. Like all of

839
00:47:16,679 --> 00:47:21,519
her other siblings died before eighty years old, she managed

840
00:47:21,559 --> 00:47:24,760
to live to that age. They did like a big

841
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,280
party at a banquet hall, and it was much bigger

842
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:33,239
than I expected, because normally with parties in the Philippines,

843
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,639
you know, you have it in your backyard or whatever,

844
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:40,039
if you're rich enough to have a large backyard for

845
00:47:40,119 --> 00:47:41,880
an event space or whatever. But we went to a

846
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,440
banquet hall and I think about one hundred people came wow,

847
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,800
and there was also an EMC with a soundboard, so

848
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,440
that was pretty wild. And then people went up to

849
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,559
say stuff to pay tribute to my grandma because she's

850
00:47:56,559 --> 00:48:00,480
a very important and influential person in the community. I'm

851
00:48:00,559 --> 00:48:03,760
very cherished by her friends. And then the other thing

852
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:08,480
that made it memorable was me and my cousins we

853
00:48:08,559 --> 00:48:12,079
had to go up and say something, which is not

854
00:48:12,559 --> 00:48:15,199
what I was expecting. I knew that I had to

855
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,320
dress up for the occasion, and I knew that we

856
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,000
would be taking pictures and doing all of that stuff.

857
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,320
But the MC came to our table while we were

858
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,639
eating and he was like, so you're gonna say something

859
00:48:27,639 --> 00:48:31,360
to your grandmother in a couple of minutes, and we

860
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,840
were all like what, Like, we had not prepared anything,

861
00:48:35,199 --> 00:48:38,800
and we ended up drawing lots for the person who

862
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,719
was gonna go up and say something, and of course,

863
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,039
with my luck, I was the person that ended up

864
00:48:46,159 --> 00:48:48,320
drawing the lot to go up and speak, and I

865
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,440
was like, this is fine, I'll just improvise something I

866
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,480
did an improve in the last year. I can come

867
00:48:54,559 --> 00:48:55,519
up with something you've.

868
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,119
Speaker 1: Been training for this exact moment.

869
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,679
Speaker 2: Exactly, and I just sort of went up there. I

870
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,280
said a lot of ms and us, but I ended

871
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:07,000
up speaking from the heart and it's very emotional conveying

872
00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:10,599
your love for a person who lives across the world

873
00:49:10,599 --> 00:49:13,519
from you and who you rarely ever see. But then,

874
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,840
as another testament to my luck, everybody else in the line,

875
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,320
all of my other cousins ended up saying something anyways.

876
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,599
So I went up first, and then I ended up

877
00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:25,800
passing the mic down and other people ended up saying

878
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:26,320
stuff too.

879
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: So I think that's probably for the best, like your

880
00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:31,320
luck made you break the ice for everybody else, But

881
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,960
I think it would m hmm. I think it probably

882
00:49:34,039 --> 00:49:35,920
was the best tribute to your grandma to have everybody

883
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,800
say their own thing, rather than your cousin's getting away

884
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,079
with a diddo off stage.

885
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:44,079
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, so true. I don't know. It was

886
00:49:44,079 --> 00:49:47,199
a little awkward for me, just because even though I

887
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:51,119
am Filipino, I don't speak to Gallog. So my entire

888
00:49:51,119 --> 00:49:54,039
speech was in English, and I was saying to my

889
00:49:54,119 --> 00:49:56,199
parents after the party was over, it's like, do you

890
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,599
think everybody understood what was going on? And they were like, yeah,

891
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:03,159
I I think everybody understood. So in any case, like

892
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,320
all of my other cousins ended up speaking in English

893
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:09,480
at some point anyways, So yeah, it's fine, It's probably fine.

894
00:50:09,559 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: There was nobody obviously that was offended by you only

895
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,159
speaking English and your speech, and if they didn't get it, like,

896
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,119
I'm sure the looks on everybody else's faces conveyed what

897
00:50:18,159 --> 00:50:20,519
you were saying anyway, and your grandma understood what you

898
00:50:20,519 --> 00:50:21,760
were saying, and that's what's important.

899
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,159
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. It was funny too, just because there was

900
00:50:25,199 --> 00:50:29,800
a soundboard during your speech. They played sentimental music and

901
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,639
there's like sound effects if you say something funny, which

902
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,679
was really interesting for me to experience.

903
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 1: I just imagine you saying something really heartfelt and the

904
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,320
DJ going for for for fair.

905
00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that's that's literally what would happen. So my god,

906
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,320
it's really comedic and funny.

907
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: So I aspire to be like your grandma when I

908
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,280
am made it. That's incredible to have.

909
00:50:54,519 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 2: I think you will. You think so based off of

910
00:50:56,519 --> 00:50:59,280
the stories I've heard, of course, I think that will happen. Okay,

911
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,519
well through all a bit goodhall party for all. It's

912
00:51:01,559 --> 00:51:07,000
like morettas. We'll all go up and improvise a speech.

913
00:51:08,599 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: I look forward to it. Start your or sim storyboard

914
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:12,800
for how that's gonna go.

915
00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:18,159
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'll make a Canva whiteboard not sponsored.

916
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,079
Speaker 1: Hashtag not sponsored every episode. Now, of course, I think

917
00:51:22,159 --> 00:51:24,960
you may have already covered this with the last question.

918
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,079
Could you briefly describe a party you've been to that

919
00:51:28,159 --> 00:51:32,480
relates to this season's theme or to your episode story overall?

920
00:51:32,599 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I kind of answered it in the

921
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,920
last question, just because I think that was the biggest

922
00:51:39,199 --> 00:51:42,239
party that I've been to in a while, or at

923
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:46,679
least something that was so elaborate that directly celebrated familiar

924
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,880
lineage in a way. I don't know. I feel like

925
00:51:50,639 --> 00:51:55,559
because my family are made up of immigrants, and we

926
00:51:55,639 --> 00:51:59,280
live very far away from other family members who live

927
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,199
literally across the world, it makes you really hard to

928
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,239
have those kinds of celebrations and have them be as

929
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,880
big as they would be but I'm always happy to

930
00:52:09,679 --> 00:52:14,000
even gather with my nuclear family and celebrate something. And

931
00:52:14,039 --> 00:52:15,639
I like eating good food.

932
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,119
Speaker 1: So I'm here.

933
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's usually a big part of get togethers and

934
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,400
stuff like that. Food is a love language.

935
00:52:23,679 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: Are you ever responsible for bringing any of the food

936
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,360
or making any of the food for the get togethers?

937
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,119
Or are you just a consumer of the food? I

938
00:52:29,119 --> 00:52:31,599
shouldn't say, justin are you privileged to be a consumer

939
00:52:31,639 --> 00:52:32,079
of the food.

940
00:52:32,119 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 2: I feel privileged to be a consumer because usually when

941
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,559
I go to a party, I get to eat really well. Yeah,

942
00:52:37,599 --> 00:52:42,559
but if I'm bringing something, because I became very famous

943
00:52:42,599 --> 00:52:47,719
amongst my family for baking a lot during the pandemic,

944
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,199
as I'm sure a lot of other people will attest to,

945
00:52:50,559 --> 00:52:55,119
I usually bring dessert. I remember during the pandemic, for

946
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,840
my uncle's birthday, the uncle that lives next door to

947
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,840
my childhood home, I made a cheesecake based off of

948
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,639
the Cheesecake Factory recipe. So I made like a big

949
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:11,760
cheesecake and I decorated with the jammy strawberries and whipped cream,

950
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,519
and I decorated it. And I like baking. I like

951
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,400
doing the cake decorating thing, even if I only get

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to do it a couple of times a year. It's

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something that I enjoy.

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Speaker 1: To your own desserts committee, all right, yeah, I love that.

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But something that's bittersweet is that we are at the

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end of our episode here, Jada. It has been a

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pleasure chatting with you. But before we go, could you

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please tell the people what you're promoting or celebrating right now?

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Speaker 2: Well, I am celebrating the release of Monsterer on Theme Party.

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That's gonna get bleeped.

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Speaker 1: Yay, so many bleeps this episode.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Other places you can find me, I write a substack. Wow. Yeah.

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My substack is retrospective, but without so it's retrospective.

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Speaker 1: I guess we can like it in the show notes.

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Speaker 2: And I usually write about monthly media or the media

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that I'm really excited about. And yeah, you can read

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about all my artistic opinions on the internet. I think

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that's it, all right. I'm excited for the next season

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of Theme Party.

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Speaker 1: Wow, me too. I'll talk about it a little bit later,

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but I'm excited to have you back writing another episode

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for a season two.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm excited too. We're gonna Trauma Dumb again. Hooray.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Trauma dumbing, get it all out. Did you have

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any other socials that you want to throw out there

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where people can find you, or do you only want

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to be found on substacks.

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Speaker 2: Generally, I'm trying to like cut down on my social

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media usage. I don't really use social media that much anymore.

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But on Blue Sky I'm retrospective the same thing without

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the eye. On Tumblr, I'm also retrospective the same thing

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without thought.

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Speaker 1: Good job getting that cross platform handle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But on Instagram, my handle is JD M and

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DZ with two underscores, and you could follow me there.

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I don't really use it, but sometimes I post on

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my Instagram story if I have something to promote, like

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substack or theme party or anything Lengthy Tangent related.

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Speaker 1: Heck, yeah, yay. Well, all that just leaves me to

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thank Jada for coming to my theme party. Thank you

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also to bad Machine for making our shows music, and

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to Alyssa Esteban for our show art and for story development.

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Another huge thank you to Jada and everyone else involved

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in making Bonster Figger. If you want to learn more

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about the episode and all of our shows, you can

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visit our website Lengthy Tangent dot com We've also got

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a Patreon. Patre everything from lengthy tangent, so pop on

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sure to follow us on social media, subscribe to you

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don't miss an episode, and rate and review if you've

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enjoyed the show. This is our final episode of season

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one of Theme Party the Podcast. We're already in production

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for season two, as Jadea and I have discussed, so

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be sure to watch for updates. The theme for season

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two is going to be The Stranger, so we've got

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some great stories getting cooked up for that already, and

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I will let you know when they are going to

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come out. We don't have a release date just yet.

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Once again, our theme for this season has been family traditions.

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I've been moreta moos and this has been an interview

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episode of Theme Party the Podcast Celebrate Creativity.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, that's a long one.

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Speaker 3: We'll just edit that part out like the dang