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Speaker 1: Hell, Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to Trave's told you

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on a Monday, December fifteen, twenty twenty five. Oh my goodness,

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lots to lots to talk about. Lots happening in the world,

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and the geek stuff, lots happening in the world, and

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bad stuff. I hope everyone is doing aokay and having

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a good time out there. Obviously, Christmas is really just

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around the corner, right, hence the hat, hence the ridge sweater.

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You know, fifth nine and fifteen days, ten days, that's nuts.

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So I hope you're all doing well. Hope you had

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a good weekend. Let me just get this out there.

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Let's have some fun on a Monday. Let's have to

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have some fun on a Monday. Uh. But yeah, we

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got lots talk about today. I thought it was just

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gonna be a Batman centric show, which we're still going over.

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So people, what we're gonna do here, I'm gonna talk

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about a few things just at the top here quick plugs.

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We'll talk about some bad news. I'm gonna talk about

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the Batman stuff on more of a quicker note this time,

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and then we will talk about the Vengers doomsday trailer.

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Leaks what we're going to do. So if people are

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you're watching live. Obviously this is only about an hour

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hour ten show, so if you want to add things

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in a superchat order and patron because patrons they get

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that access as well. We're going to talk about the

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Avengers thing in two spaces where we're going to talk

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about the idea, because that's been a big debate. Right,

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putting four trailers in well, four teasers within the next

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four weeks, is that a good idea for the fan

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base for online? I'll say where I am on that spectrum,

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and then after yes, I've seen the teaser, screen record it,

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not sharing it. People don't share it, don't get yourself

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striped or anything like that. But so pretty much what

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I would assume is, let's say if we talked about

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the Avengers trailer for like twenty twenty five minutes, half

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that will be just the concept as far as what

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they're doing, and then the other half will be the

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actual teaser. Because I have seen it, they do a

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big reveal, I had no problem watching it because I'm

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not seeing Avatar three this weekend and plus the other

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ones I would not be going back to see Avatar

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a bunch of times I just don't have the time

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in my life. If you do, that's great. Enjoy the

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things you love. If you want to go see them

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all on the big screen, that's great. Even myself seeing

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this one, I was like, you know what, because there

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there's rooms a big on what could it be? Once

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I saw it, I said, you know what, cool? Definitely

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something big in there, something huge, but not something that's

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out of the realm possibility. We talked about that on

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the last Weekly Geek. I mean, kirkln. I won't specify what,

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but we said, hey, they probably do this, and they

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did that and it's a smart idea. But after the

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teaser that was great, but did not walk away being like,

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oh man, I really wish I would have saw this right.

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So if you are love it, hope you love Avatar.

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This weekend we will have a review that a review

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for that, me and Dylan reviewing Fallout this week. Me

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Darry de Finite. That's a finale, right, we said that.

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strike for the Avengers trailer, which makes sense right. So firstly,

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just to enjoy life, be good, like you never know

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what's gonna happen, man. And yeah, there you a good reminder.

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So man, let's see, so Spops, I might have to

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start with the trailer reaction. I might have to put

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just because I feel like we'll talk about it if

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they're gonna keep what's going on here. But I see

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to start with the doomsday thing, and I will uh

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knows how long that goes and you know people are

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here alive, so we'll talk about it. It says. The

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funny part about this. Yesterday I saw a fake doomsday

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teaser super similar to the real one. So I think

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it's an I'm Victor situation where someone had the details

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of footage and made AI version. Absolutely, that's how I

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saw the F four credit scene first. So I saw

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it on Twitter the it was an AI version of

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that scene, but because it was AI, when, oh, I

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haven't been spoiled. And then I saw the movie was

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pretty much, you know, barring the I Am Victor stuff, right,

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tribue in the future, talk about we got lots of news,

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but man, just what a bummer. We've talked about this again. Everyone,

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be kind, be good, enjoy your life. If you need help,

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go out there and get it for your loved ones

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or yourself. Rob Briner, not only did he pass away,

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looks like very terrible circumstances, which I'm not getting in

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today because it's just a downer. Everyone knows. By now

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you can look it up. This guy, You're lucky to

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make any films in Hollywood, right with the production anything

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I mean to read off his filmography, Rob Briner has

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multiple people like films that are all time grace, you know,

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people that are like this is a phenomenal movie, like

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ones that have withstood the test of time that you

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see if you can make one movie that when you

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get when I get my landmark, like oh, send my

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years in history here at the Clonal Theater and they

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show a few good Men which he directed. That's in

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the current reel. I've seen multiple of his movies in

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many roles that is like, you are lucky if you

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can get one of those movies. The fact that he

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got many. But this is Spinal Chat, which I've not

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seen the sequel too. But yeah, he pass and him

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and his wife well not pass away where sadly looks

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like uh, murdered and just terrible stuff. Man, it's just

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just such a shitty thing. Yeah it. I can't say

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he's like one of my all time ferite directors, but

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appreciate all of the movies he did, Like this is

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my dad seeing that he introduced me that I think

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like like, let this run right here, Stan even Spile

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talk about the skill. And then later on he would

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do stuff A goes Mississippi and rumor has and bucket

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lists and other stuff. But and he just directed Spinal

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of these movies, if he did Spinal Tap, stand by Me,

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Those six movies right there are like legendary, have big

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moments and influence film and went across time. Right he

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Austin talented actor. I think the last thing I saw him,

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like everyone else was Well for Wall Street, phenomenal there.

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So I just send thoughts out to fans and friendly.

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who enjoyed his work but left his footprint in the

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community and just man, such a shitty time. So that sucks.

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But all right, let's get it in this Avengers Doomsday.

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The trailer is out there, it's leaked all this stuff.

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not talking about anything about the teaser. I will give

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skip ahead, tune out, or skip the timecode. I will

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put that in there. So let me put the actual

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it came out last week, as I like, oh, when's

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it happening, blah blah blah, and then it's like, well,

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so you do that, But now it had come out before.

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when you go see Avatar. I'm not sure when it's starting.

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apparently a rumor of what each is centered on. We'll

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that's been a big debate, right as far as Okay,

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this is where I am, right, dude, I guess I'm

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not on a I've seen some people be like, this

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is disasters, this is dumb, it's leakings. You really want

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your first look of this to be out there. I

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this the most. It is people like myself that are

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content creators. Where for myself, right when I do this episode,

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it's better if everyone's seen the trailer and then an

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episode comes out. Hey, we're reviewing the trailer and then

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boom everyone can click on U boo boom boom, boom boom.

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This is a situation where now people will see it sporadically. Right,

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some people in a GV have seen it today, some

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people see it later on this week. Some people won't

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see it for a while. And that's where the same

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thing with people that are watching it, just like on

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the Outside Listeners podcast, they'll see it later. So I

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a hard time believing people that are content creators when

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they talking about being a bad idea. I'm always willing

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to hear them out, but it's just is it a

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bad idea for them or for you? For me, it's

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a bad idea. Stranger things releases on New's even Christmas,

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because that's a pain in the ass. Is a bad

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idea for them? Probably not, because they probably got some

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statistics of families being at home together watching it, people

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alone looking for something. It's there, right, And I guess

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here's my thing is when no and we didn't know

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for sure, right, but no way home. If you remember,

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like a few weeks before all those leaks came out, right,

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it was the I'm standing on the polls, it was

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Will Dafoe and Jamie Fox like a bunch of key

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stuff that confirmed everything. And then some trailers. I think

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the last three did confirm all the films. But still

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it was pretty much at least four to five shots

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of Toby, Andrew and Tom so it's like they're in

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and even Charlie Cox, Right, it's like they're in this

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fucking movie. And that leaked everywhere. Now I'm not saying

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they put that out. They could have, right, it could

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and they wanted no leak whatsoever it's happened. Did it

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really hurt Knowing Home? No? What is Knowing Home? Is

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it like top five, top six? Let's see all time

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box office movies. Let's take a look. I know it's

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for sure in the top ten. Uh, let's see Spierman.

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Noing Home is number eight at one point six or sorry,

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one point nine billion dollars almost two billion. Didn't open

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in China, and if it did, it probably could have

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done that, so to me, And that's the other argument, right,

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So as the content creators, I understand that from a

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personal point of view, but that they don't care about

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you because we're gonna cover it. No matter what, right

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from the people that are like, oh, it's gonna affect it.

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Do people really want to see the Yeah, look at

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to MacGuire's dick leak, right, Yeah, a great clip from

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John camp Ya. But they people like, do people want

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to see this footage the way? This way? This is

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not the way it's meant to be. This is not

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for those people. It to me, it does its job

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the same way as the chairs. Where right now on

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Twitter it is the number one trend people are talking

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about it because now you get a double dose of

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you get the hardcore people tweeting about it. Looking for

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the trail. That's all was on my timeline was anyone

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got a link? Is there a link? Blah blah blah

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like and luckily found one pretty easily once it Like,

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once I heard it's getting out there, I kind of

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know the right people to follow that. I already look

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after that person came up boom was there screen recorded?

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I locked. I'm not posting anything, but I got on

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the phone so I could share even with other GV

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members they wanted. But that's the thing where it's like,

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the is the sure I just don't think the main

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people like my sister who does see the Avengers, right.

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She even said, like she asked me earlier on in

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the year, she said, what movies do I gonna watch

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the ketchup on? I said, well, not really, especially now

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after some rumors, Right, But there are people like her

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and my mom that they're not gonna go seek out

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that leak. They might hear about and be like, oh

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cool and text me, but they're not gonna be searching Twitter,

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searching Facebook. You know what's gonna happen. The teaser trail

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is gonna come out in an HD on their YouTube

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and then they'll see it or you know when they'll

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see it. And what this is for this is for

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the people that are seeing Avatar that kind of know

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an Avengers movies coming out but don't know when or

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they have no idea. I guarantee you there are millions

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of people that do not know that Downy's back for this,

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that there's another Avengers X Y and Z right the

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same way as there's certain people that did not know

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that Tob maguire and Andrew Garfer wasn't that right, that

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does not affect it. We especially because there's certain things

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that this teaser confirms It's like the Toby and and

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Andrew noway home thing we knew were us the people

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watching this podcast, that people listening, we knew they were

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in there, and we still want to see it and

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still loved it. If that affects you your enjoyment, if

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you got spoiled, I get that, right, Like I got

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spoiled on Luke Dyne and Last Jedi, and that affected

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me a little bit going in because I just was

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hoping it wasn't true. But I just kind of knew

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that going in and that that was a bummer, right,

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like Taylor Han Solo. So I get that. But then

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there's certain things like Toby Andrew me knowing they're in

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there that didn't bug me. I think if I know

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certain I think characters being in things or maybe some

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certain moments doesn't really bug me. I think it's more

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like the big ending stuff for big characters, stuff that

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would really bug me, right, because like, sure I knew

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Tony Andrew in there, that doesn't mean the movie is

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gonna be great. That doesn't mean I didn't know about

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the hole Zundaa moment, right, that stuff where it hits

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you in the movie, right, So that's the thing where

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this teaser in some of the reveals, it's stuff that

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we've been talking about for weeks, like talking for months.

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So if you're in the discord, if you listen to

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the Geek first and say, hey, there's a sea tear

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rumor about this, oh look, it's like there's the only

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stuff we talked about last newscasts. Be and Kirk like, oh, look,

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it's true. So I just it feels like a little

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I won't say fake outrage, but it's kind of like

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what I'll talk about with the Scoopers too later on

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with the Batman stuff, I feel like there's people that

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just I don't want to like, I'm not trying to

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offend in but I'm not trying to yuck their young

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or say like, oh, your loser. It's not that. I

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just feel like with the Scoop game, with these trailers,

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everything like that, people get just a bit too worked

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up in the bit, too animated and heated in a

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way where it's just like, one of this stuff really

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doesn't matter because it's movies, and two they just don't

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think about outside their bubble here. They don't think about

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those people that here's Mike, my sister actively a voice

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trailer for a movie she knows she wants to see.

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It's pretty easy for the general ance to nor one

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hundred percent. My Emily would not be seeing the trailers

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if I didn't say, like lots or sometimes if the kids,

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but I'll say, oh look the trailers will watch it.

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I'll gage your interest. Right, there's tons where and I

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think there's tons of them too. Where with Emily it's

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like her phone might be algorith because like it's me

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around talking like I think people. And that's where it's

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just like lately and I've talked about this and I'll

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talk this Scoopers to, like when I was on vodka

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stream and we were talking about certain Scoopers the last time,

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and I've said this main time, like when people get

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mad certain ones they don't like this, or oh why

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do people believe this person? It's just like I guess

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I don't really care. That's why we always say with

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our audience, hey, this is the news, this is the ranking.

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What do we think true or not true? Right? People

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that get so worked up on these trails in this

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way in the negative way right as far as so

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worked up, I don't understand to me, it's doing its job.

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It is leaking, it's a conversation point. People are gonna

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be talking about it for four weeks straight. That's with

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the chairs, right everybody that's like, and I'm something that

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really is not much excitement for Doomsday on a big degree.

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Of course, as Avengers, there's some characters coming back, but

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I think how we've got there has been not good,

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and I think the rumors and what this teaser is

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kind of confirming what one of the main plots is.

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To me, I'm not invested in it. It feels like

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I can't say anything because I don't want to spoil something.

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It just as of right now, I'm not invested in

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what's happening with this movie, right, but I'm still somewhat excited.

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I'm still here talk about I am a fan of

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this stuff. But I think that for me, they want

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to generated because people talk about like, oh, it's Avenger's

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gonna be a billion, how can they do it? They

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like what Captain Marvel or the Marvel's second lowest MCU

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movie of all time. And this is in an era

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where Doctor Strange almost made a billion four eleven Thunder,

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which Tansville Hate almost made eight hundred million, dead Pool, Wolverine,

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spider Man, billion, close to two billion movies. It's not like, Hey,

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after COVID, a lot of people check down on Marvel

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and we're just as fucked, right, So really desperate. I

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think they're desperate to a degree with some of the

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movies they're making, but they they know things aren't an

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instant winner. And I think that's smart of them to go,

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you know what, They could just try to go a lay. Yeah,

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it's Avengers, let's not worry about it. I think they're

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smart because they also know if they can make this movie.

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I've always said, if they can make this movie as

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seven out of ten, I think a lot of the

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general audience will come back to the Marvel universe and

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give it a chance. And I think they're gonna be

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smarter in Phase seven or whatever it is. I think

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they're gonna be smarter that way and make sure they

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don't take a couple of stumbles they did before. Right,

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So this is their chance. So I think, to me,

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the chairs, people complain with the chairs. That was to

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talk to the town the whole day, new name, What

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could this be? Who's next? The leaks for the commune?

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They're talking about here on hit him. Even GA might

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leak like go to them like, oh there's leak trailers

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and that kind of add some like oh I'm seeing

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something I'm not supposed to. That type of gimmick. For me,

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it is creating conversation online. Eventually, these teasers will come out,

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you'll see them. They'll still clean up millions of views.

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Maybey add a little something in there that wasn't in

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the theatrical ones. And then for the people that are

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not online, not even like like what Mike said, right,

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because I'm not sure, Mike, what does your sister do

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she's in the theaters, Like if she's in the theaters

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and there's a trailer, like she knows it's for movies

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she wants to see. Is she talking to you or

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she avoiding it? That's just me being curious. But that's

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the thing where there are people that are sitting down avatar.

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You know those movies are massive, They have no they're

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seeing the trailer and that gets them buzzing and a

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different one. Sure, I guess it's just like a different

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way to do some new hype. Like they're trying stuff

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out right, They got enough fucking characters to do all

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these teasers, right, and again this teaser was one oh

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nine and it was pretty much two scenes. If that

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they like, they are going to generate millions Okay, she

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closes her eyes and blocks ears. They're going to generate

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millions of impressions, stats, clicks, money, monetization for four weeks

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by being in the talk of the town, in the

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geek sphere. Right, Super easy to do, and it's a

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great idea before Christmas because of someone. There's a fun

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aspect I think of if you see Avuitar Avultar Avatar

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the second week and you're talking a feel solid and like,

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oh I saw the Avengers trailer about this, and like,

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oh no, I saw this one. The people that are

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not in the know, that's fun. So I just don't

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I understand. You might say, ah, this is lame, this

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kind of sucks. That I get. But what people are

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so vehement like this is a mistake. Look what you did, Elite.

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It's online. It looks shitty, Like do we really think

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that's gonna hurt the box office? Know what's gonna hurt

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the box office is the receep's reception of this movie.

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They got opening weekend and they got weekend two. To me,

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those are the weekends they got clear as far as

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they'll make a lot of money. They could even make

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a billion dollars first weekend, like what z Utopia took

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just a little over two weeks. A bit Avengers made

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a billion in or Endgame made a billion one weekend.

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So maybe one won't do that, but maybe it will.

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To me, what happens with this is the surprises. So

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like what with Doctor Strange, which I think helped with

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No Way Home, and then the quality of that I

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think I feel like now lots of people aren't a

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big fan of Multiverse Men, and I won't say lots

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of people. I'll just say there's more people that when

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it came out of spoken about how much they didn't

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like it at the time. I don't think it mattered

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because to me, I think that movie was at least

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a seven out of ten I had surprises. No Way

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Home to me is further than a seven out of ten.

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But to me, it's like a seven out of ten

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has surprises. That's why I still think like if Doomsday

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and Secret Work can be a seven out of ten

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and have surprises and have a good ending as well, well,

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that word of mouth will spread and it's just they

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clear it right, like, I just don't think it will

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negally impact it. Okay, so that's my thoughts there. So

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I'm gonna take the first ad break, may take a

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drink of water. I am gonna talk about the teaser now,

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So if you have no interest, if you're watching live,

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you can bounce out. I'll probably take about ten fifteen

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minutes and whatnot. I will what should I put up?

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I'll put up here. I will put this up. Let

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me do the be right back, let me do a

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new one here taking the dog out. I'm gonna change.

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I'm gonna change this Avengers trailer leak spoilers. So when

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this goes up, it's it's it's not I'm not talking

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about yet. This is the time to get out here.

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If you're watching live and want to listen to the

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rest of the show when this is up, that means

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I'm gonna be talking about the leak. When it's down,

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I'll talk about the Batman Mike. In case you're bouncing

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for this part. The twenty twenty six question asked me,

470
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,319
I'm not gonna answer it because in two weeks where

471
00:21:56,319 --> 00:21:58,599
we're gonna record the twenty twenty six preview and I'll

472
00:21:58,599 --> 00:22:01,079
have my at the end epps the top five like

473
00:22:01,079 --> 00:22:03,039
our most anticipate for the year. So I don't want

474
00:22:03,039 --> 00:22:06,720
to spoil that. I feel like, no I need even guess.

475
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,599
I feel you can guess number one. I don't know

476
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,240
if you guess number two, but I feel like you could.

477
00:22:10,279 --> 00:22:12,079
But yeah, I don't want to spoil that. So we're

478
00:22:12,079 --> 00:22:13,799
gonna take our first ad break. I'm gonna take a

479
00:22:13,839 --> 00:22:16,359
drink of water. We're at the twenty two minute mark here.

480
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,519
If you don't want that, bow out, and then we

481
00:22:18,599 --> 00:22:21,640
will talk about the Avengers, and then after that, when

482
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:32,480
I'm back, we'll talk about Batman. So we'll be right back. Okay,

483
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,960
I hope I've given you enough time. I'm not bringing

484
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,480
anything up on the screen, not bringing a trailer up,

485
00:22:38,559 --> 00:22:40,559
not bringing any images. I don't need the geek first

486
00:22:40,599 --> 00:22:42,759
channel to get completely struck down. So this is the

487
00:22:42,839 --> 00:22:45,319
last warning. If you do not care, if you've seen it,

488
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,319
you're good to go. If you do care, if you're

489
00:22:47,319 --> 00:22:49,559
playing on Senior Avatar, or you don't want to wait,

490
00:22:49,559 --> 00:22:52,359
whatever it may be, bow now, come back when you

491
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:57,359
have seen Okay, three two one Danos is back. No,

492
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:02,359
I'm joking. So what I will say is supposedly the

493
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,119
four trailers, which I've seen a lot of scuttle, but

494
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:08,000
all the four teasers are centering on what is its

495
00:23:08,759 --> 00:23:11,480
cap for this first one, which that's reveal Steve Rodgers

496
00:23:11,559 --> 00:23:16,440
confer which we'll talk about see Rogers four, Doom and

497
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,599
the just a teaser trailer. Right. I'm wondering what they're

498
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,359
gonna do with the first three, if they're eventually gonna

499
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,119
release those or just release the teaser trailer online. I

500
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:26,720
don't know. I wonder if it's something where they let

501
00:23:26,759 --> 00:23:28,400
this play for a week and then a week after

502
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,279
they play, Okay, the cat one's online, and even at

503
00:23:31,319 --> 00:23:32,720
the end of that trailer, you could do something like

504
00:23:33,079 --> 00:23:36,079
see more teasers online in the theater of the Avatar, right,

505
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,480
so you could do that. I don't know. We'll have

506
00:23:38,519 --> 00:23:40,880
to see what happens, but we'll see if they could

507
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,039
maybe not even release all three of them, right, But

508
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,200
I think the teaser trailers are for sure one they

509
00:23:45,279 --> 00:23:51,119
will release. So this happened. I think I get it

510
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,519
with certain people because I'm not an F four guy,

511
00:23:53,599 --> 00:23:56,720
but I understand if they're your favorite group characters. I

512
00:23:57,079 --> 00:23:59,079
do understand, and I am this way with Doom right,

513
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,680
as far as I still wish they recast King and

514
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,039
they went that route, we got to Doom later. It

515
00:24:04,079 --> 00:24:05,559
does feel like a bit of a rush to Doom.

516
00:24:05,599 --> 00:24:07,880
It feels like it's just thrown together. Downing his doom

517
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,319
is also questionable. We'll see how that plays out, as

518
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,319
bars as the errant is he not it is. I

519
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:14,920
thought it was gonna be the teams. I thought it

520
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,759
was gonna be SAMs, Avengers, Thunderbolts, F four and then

521
00:24:17,799 --> 00:24:20,720
the Doom one, right or an overall one. The fact

522
00:24:20,759 --> 00:24:25,720
that there is no F four and they are the

523
00:24:25,839 --> 00:24:31,880
prime you know, antagonists, protagonists you know, Combo Doom and

524
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,119
the four specifically Read and Doom. That is something. Now.

525
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,440
Maybe the teaser trailer will touch upon that, but I'm

526
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,319
saying I with the way they're doing it, it makes

527
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,079
more sense. I will put out my condolences for you

528
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,359
F four fans as far as especially think, especially too,

529
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,079
they had this plan already, but when Fantastic four had

530
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:56,559
the lowest MCU Disney Plus debut, I think they're kind

531
00:24:56,559 --> 00:24:58,960
of like, yeah, you know, we gotta make people care

532
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,599
about that four I'm not saying, don't get me wrong

533
00:25:00,599 --> 00:25:02,319
to give up on them. No, I think obviously is

534
00:25:02,319 --> 00:25:04,680
the biggest film last year. I really like that. That

535
00:25:04,759 --> 00:25:06,799
was my favorite comic movie of the year. So to me,

536
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,839
don't give up on it. Make people care about the

537
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,000
F four. I just think currently what I'd said before

538
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,640
that may come out. I don't think people care about

539
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,039
the four like the comic community does. It is surprising

540
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:17,920
X Men, I'm not as surprised about. I feel like

541
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,839
you build that that could be surprises. I just feel

542
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,400
like with F four, that is a team they just

543
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,960
introduced and it's a core MCU team now right where

544
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,519
the X Men is still a team of the past.

545
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,559
So I'm more surprised by F four than X Men.

546
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,400
But so we get this teaser we have I can bring.

547
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:34,960
Let me bring the image so I remember on the

548
00:25:35,039 --> 00:25:37,160
order again, I'm not bringing up the image for the stream,

549
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,039
sorry for people. I do not want I don't know

550
00:25:40,079 --> 00:25:42,440
I want anything bad to happen to me. Uh So

551
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,240
it starts with like a piano theme of the Avengers theme.

552
00:25:46,319 --> 00:25:49,839
That's great, and then you get him pulling up on

553
00:25:49,839 --> 00:25:53,839
a bike. Steve Rodgers is back. Let's see Super mix

554
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,960
is pour one out for every post endgame character that

555
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,240
will get barely an in sacreen time, if any, and

556
00:25:58,279 --> 00:26:01,559
we will talk about that because Mike, this trailer kind

557
00:26:01,559 --> 00:26:04,559
of just confirmed my I think this being the first

558
00:26:04,599 --> 00:26:06,680
one that I'm saying trailer. I know it's the teaser,

559
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,599
but like this being the first one confirmed a lot

560
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,039
of my fears where I am not looking. I'm looking

561
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,480
less forward to it, even though I love this character

562
00:26:14,559 --> 00:26:18,240
and I love the performance of it. But I don't know.

563
00:26:18,319 --> 00:26:20,440
But he pulls up on a bike. It's of the

564
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,240
old house that we're left with the endgame, right where

565
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,720
Peggy is. There's a suit, a thing of him putting

566
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:30,519
the suit away, So I'm imagining this is roughly after endgame.

567
00:26:30,599 --> 00:26:33,559
We don't know what's happening. I know people have debated

568
00:26:33,559 --> 00:26:36,640
the whole there's this Steve and old Steve and yet

569
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,960
DA and I love. I guess it's just because I'm

570
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,839
on the other side of it, right and chat you

571
00:26:40,839 --> 00:26:42,880
can let me know. But like people have been like, well,

572
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,799
how come with old Steve Winn he tell them about

573
00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:49,079
doomsday and all this stuff happening Again, when you read

574
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,759
what they did with that movie, the writers thought one

575
00:26:51,759 --> 00:26:54,240
way the directors thought another they didn't even have it clear. Now,

576
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,799
could you say that's bad? Maybe, especially because we're doing

577
00:26:56,799 --> 00:26:59,359
a direct sequel to Steve Rodgers. It worked easier when

578
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:00,920
he was left alone, like, well, we can leave that

579
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,880
up for interpretation of is this time travel? Is this

580
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,279
Aaron Aaron Rodgers? Is this Steve Rodgers who was always

581
00:27:07,319 --> 00:27:09,720
in the MSU as cap went back and he became

582
00:27:09,759 --> 00:27:12,640
an old man? Or is it him in a different multiverse?

583
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:17,039
To me, it was Chris Rogers, Chris, I'm fucking up

584
00:27:17,039 --> 00:27:19,519
his name all the time, Chris Evan's staying in a multiverse.

585
00:27:19,599 --> 00:27:21,119
I thought that worked better for what they set up

586
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:22,799
an endgame, and I thought that worked better for the

587
00:27:22,839 --> 00:27:26,079
story and made less messy. Obviously a time travel person,

588
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,400
I understand. I'm not saying there's right or wrong, But

589
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,480
to me, when people, how's this gonna affect Old Steve,

590
00:27:30,519 --> 00:27:32,799
I'm like, well, old Steve's doing his own thing, like

591
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,440
he's in a different sphere right now. But anyway, so

592
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,400
I've always imagined of like imagine in that. That's why

593
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,000
I don't like the time travel thing right as far

594
00:27:42,039 --> 00:27:44,759
as if he goes back, imagine if he goes, yeah,

595
00:27:44,759 --> 00:27:47,079
you know, Hydra, they're all in shield. And if he

596
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,160
kind of lives in this reality, that is the perfect

597
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,559
good reality. Right. If he lives in the universe where

598
00:27:52,759 --> 00:27:54,839
he did save anyone, he stopped Nyalon and like he

599
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,960
knew all this stuff was coming in, he he could

600
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,759
do that, right, And that's my kind of we've heard

601
00:27:58,799 --> 00:28:02,160
this room of like him doing this causes some incursion

602
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,400
or something for to kill or injure Doom and kill

603
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,119
his family, right. I think that's a great way. It's like,

604
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,880
imagine if Steve Rodgers is living in Utopia. Imagine if

605
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,119
he's living in the best reality possible and Doom's living

606
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,759
in the worst. So that's why to me it works

607
00:28:16,799 --> 00:28:19,000
better as far as not, well, he's just a guy

608
00:28:19,039 --> 00:28:21,640
who's standing there is like he's gonna know that certain

609
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,599
people are gonna get killed not do anything about it.

610
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,480
I guess there's a way you could do that, but

611
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,960
I just felt like the time travel the multiverse rules

612
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,000
that say it's set up an end game that does

613
00:28:30,039 --> 00:28:33,319
not match so and we've heard rumors about all this stuff.

614
00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:35,640
But he gets there, he puts the suit away, he

615
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,119
picks up a baby. It is confirmed that him and

616
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,799
Peggy I guess probably Peggy Rodgers now got it on,

617
00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:43,599
had a baby, had a son, he is a father,

618
00:28:44,039 --> 00:28:45,920
and then it just ends with phases of black Steve

619
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,640
Rodgers will turn return in Avengers Doomsday. Honestly, this was

620
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,799
like plot wise, it was just okay, he has a

621
00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:57,160
baby that at some stakes, Right, this teaser is really

622
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,599
nothing if you are like us, if you listen to

623
00:28:59,599 --> 00:29:01,880
these pods, if you're in the scoop game, if you're

624
00:29:02,039 --> 00:29:04,559
listening to any of that stuff. Right, we've heard for

625
00:29:04,599 --> 00:29:07,200
a while, even Deadline, like a couple of years ago,

626
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,559
before they started feeling this report like Rogers is back,

627
00:29:09,759 --> 00:29:12,279
you know for two or Evans was back for like

628
00:29:12,279 --> 00:29:14,759
a two picture deal, right, and Evans was like a

629
00:29:14,799 --> 00:29:16,519
news to me, And this whole time they say news

630
00:29:16,519 --> 00:29:18,359
to me, And even came out again last year, right,

631
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,960
And I still thought he could always come back, especially

632
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,759
dead Pool Wolverine. He already came back for that. It's

633
00:29:23,759 --> 00:29:26,440
like that's easy. Once Danny came back, I think we

634
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,440
all thought the jig is up. They're all coming back

635
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,599
in one way or another, whether they're doing like him,

636
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,720
they're playing villains, whether it's a cameo, multiverse stuff whatever.

637
00:29:35,119 --> 00:29:38,880
This was not surprising, but this is to confirm for

638
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,799
you know, Jimmy two Shoes, who Yeah, exactly right, uh Bluto,

639
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,559
Steve just let Bucky Bee brainwash for another sixty years.

640
00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:49,359
That's my problem is people and said, oh, well, he

641
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,680
went back in time and just didn't do anything. I

642
00:29:51,799 --> 00:29:55,559
just can't believe that Steve Rogers would just sit back

643
00:29:55,559 --> 00:29:58,000
and let all this really terrible stuff happen when he

644
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:02,200
could change something, right, because they did not specify that

645
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,359
when it's like, oh you change that, something bad could happen.

646
00:30:05,319 --> 00:30:07,359
Steve or Tony did say, like you mess with time,

647
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,960
time messes back with you, so like you can get there.

648
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,039
But they showed in the way their multiverse work that

649
00:30:12,079 --> 00:30:15,680
you're just creating a new timeline, a new spear right

650
00:30:16,079 --> 00:30:18,200
seper Mike says, you could also could also be that

651
00:30:18,279 --> 00:30:20,319
they make the older Steve at the end of end,

652
00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:24,759
gave him a pause or something. Yeah. I don't love that,

653
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,440
because Mike, where I am. I'm I'm prepared for these

654
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,200
films not to be great, So I don't want like

655
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,599
a Force Awakened situation when you watch them. To me,

656
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,720
I still love Force Awakens, but they're like, oh, right,

657
00:30:36,119 --> 00:30:38,319
these things happen. So I think it's kind of similar

658
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,319
to like Rody. Right, if we learn that Rody was

659
00:30:41,359 --> 00:30:45,079
a scrawl for Downy dying, and it's like scrawl Roady

660
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,519
or Scrody as marble Lines calls them hanging out there,

661
00:30:48,039 --> 00:30:50,359
I don't love that. So that's where it's like, I

662
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,799
don't think you're wrong. They could do that because Evans

663
00:30:53,799 --> 00:30:55,519
many times it's like, oh, I could come back to

664
00:30:55,519 --> 00:30:57,279
the MCU, but the whole Captain American thing, I don't

665
00:30:57,279 --> 00:30:59,039
know if I want to do because it's a perfect ending, right,

666
00:30:59,079 --> 00:31:02,240
and here we are less than a decade and it's happening, right,

667
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,440
you could do that. I just really hope they don't,

668
00:31:05,519 --> 00:31:07,599
just for that moment of you want to tell me

669
00:31:07,599 --> 00:31:09,160
about her, No, I don't think I will. You know,

670
00:31:09,319 --> 00:31:12,960
that would be kind of ruined for me. Right, So

671
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,200
they this trailer is to reveal that Steve Rogers is back,

672
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,480
Chris Evans is back, and me and uh Kirkle we're

673
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,359
talking about right because there's heavy rumors about Tobey and

674
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,839
we said, kay, if you're sitting down and say, we're

675
00:31:24,839 --> 00:31:26,759
gonna show for this first teaser, and we thought was

676
00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:28,359
one at that time, right, But for the four, if

677
00:31:28,359 --> 00:31:30,519
we're gonna show one thing, obviously a look of doom

678
00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:32,839
or Downy, Yes, But if you're gonna show one big

679
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,559
hootspum moment, one big juice gasoline moment, what's it gonna be?

680
00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:39,599
What's gonna get people talking? It is Chris Evans the

681
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,160
same way when Downy came back, got people talking whether

682
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,519
this is good or bad? People talk, same thing with me,

683
00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:47,240
whether this is good or bad. It's getting people talking.

684
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,680
For me, it is. It's bad in a sense. It's

685
00:31:51,759 --> 00:31:55,440
bad in the initial phase as far as this is confirmed.

686
00:31:55,799 --> 00:31:59,119
And I agree with you Mike saying I don't think

687
00:31:59,119 --> 00:32:00,960
we get out of this without game ending being ruined

688
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,680
in some degree. I think you're yeah. I think you're

689
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,640
You're correct. I've said this before since this movie has

690
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,200
really since this down anything happened, I'm buckled up for

691
00:32:12,319 --> 00:32:16,000
a Rise of Skywalker situation where checkout our commentary track.

692
00:32:16,519 --> 00:32:18,440
I don't hate everything about that movie. It's not like

693
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,279
one of the worst movies ever. But I think for

694
00:32:20,599 --> 00:32:24,839
the Star Wars universe, for Force Awakens, even Last Jedi,

695
00:32:25,359 --> 00:32:27,720
and maybe we'll have to see the Stars fan base

696
00:32:27,799 --> 00:32:30,559
I think it hurt a lot of things. And I

697
00:32:30,599 --> 00:32:32,680
think with this, this does feel like I saw. This

698
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,279
is not my don't give me scrowgers. Oh my god,

699
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,160
this is not my quote. Somebody brought this up right

700
00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:41,079
as far as I saw, because when I was looking

701
00:32:41,119 --> 00:32:43,200
for the trailer day, when someone said, man, if this

702
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,319
plot line is true, they missed the point of their

703
00:32:46,359 --> 00:32:48,279
own movie and or their their own point and end

704
00:32:48,319 --> 00:32:50,599
game where this is that moment right where I say

705
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,359
Thanos wins, they kill Thanos and they got to go

706
00:32:53,359 --> 00:32:55,720
back to all this tight stuff and the ending before

707
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,920
the Trinity fights Standos and he says, you couldn't deal

708
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,599
with your own failure, and that's brought you back to me.

709
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,720
And that's what this screams. Right. I've said this before

710
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,559
when it was rumored, and now it's confirmed. The screams

711
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,720
leftovers now. And then here's the two things. Maybe Steve

712
00:33:09,759 --> 00:33:11,400
isn't a main character. I bet he is, but maybe

713
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,519
he's not. Maybe Doom kills him right away and then

714
00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:17,240
we move on. Then that sucks as well. Just have

715
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,440
Steve be empty, like if Steve's gonna if Captain America

716
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,359
or Chris Evans is gonna make a cameo. I would

717
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,440
rather not kill off Johnny Storm or make him do

718
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,960
evil cap and do something with that. If it's gonna

719
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,519
be something just very quick, leave Steve Rodgers alone. So

720
00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:35,079
that's why I don't think it's gonna be some very

721
00:33:35,119 --> 00:33:37,759
quick And that's where the flip of that is. Okay,

722
00:33:38,039 --> 00:33:42,160
it is him being a main character. This just sucks

723
00:33:42,279 --> 00:33:44,079
in that way where it just it really feels like

724
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,960
And this is where I said, when people get heated,

725
00:33:46,319 --> 00:33:48,039
I'm having fun. I'm gonna heat it at the end

726
00:33:48,039 --> 00:33:49,839
of the day. Is it really gonna bug me that

727
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,880
phase four to six maybe meant nothing. No, not really.

728
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,920
I'm talking when we're having fun geek conversations, not like

729
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,119
how people get online. They make it the whole personality

730
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,039
of like, hey James Gunn, I hate Jeff Snyder, and

731
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:02,880
all they do is tweet about I had unfollow people

732
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,920
this week because it's like, man, like, do something else.

733
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,119
I will not tweet about this stuff other than to

734
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:09,960
promote the show. I'm not gonna be like, oh, they're

735
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,440
making this big mistake. I on occasion do I did

736
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,000
with wit this week because I usually don't watch full

737
00:34:16,039 --> 00:34:18,239
of shows, and I was just like so bad baffled.

738
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,320
Check out the gimmick goes so baffled by this finish

739
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,079
for a match, right, I was like, okay, but like

740
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,320
to me, you're fine to tweet something out opinions, that's okay.

741
00:34:26,599 --> 00:34:29,039
It's when people have like three to four tweets in

742
00:34:29,079 --> 00:34:31,719
a row, it's like, man, now it's time. I hate

743
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,920
saying the touch grassing because it's a cliche, but go

744
00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:35,840
out there, breathe some air. So at the end of

745
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,920
the day, if they screw up endgame in this, I'm

746
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,079
not gonna like, ah, you know what, this sucks, but

747
00:34:41,519 --> 00:34:43,039
I will move on. And every time I talk about

748
00:34:43,039 --> 00:34:45,239
this ago that really sucks. They really fumbled there. But

749
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,440
alas so to me, is it really like, man, I

750
00:34:49,559 --> 00:34:52,239
wasted my time with Phase four to six. Nah, I

751
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,079
had fun time at the Boys. It was a journey.

752
00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:55,880
Do I wish it was better? Sure? But in this

753
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,800
sphere of looking at it critically, yes, it feels like

754
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,800
that if Steve is a main character, it feels very

755
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,760
much like and we've heard this before, and I feel

756
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,599
like them leading with Steve with this trailer is that

757
00:35:08,199 --> 00:35:11,800
it feels like they they tapped out. They tapped out

758
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,920
on their characters that they created here, and I'm not

759
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,480
saying they won't be in here, but Sunghi the Thunderbolt's

760
00:35:18,559 --> 00:35:24,320
fantastic for Moonnight anybody else. It just feels like man. People,

761
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,360
And even these rumors with Top before right of rumors

762
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,440
of them recasting Steve Rodgers and Tony Stark, to me,

763
00:35:30,559 --> 00:35:34,199
that's them missing the point. People didn't know fucking Guardians.

764
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,559
People didn't know Captain Marvel. People didn't know it. Man.

765
00:35:36,559 --> 00:35:38,519
But you made great movies or stories, or you know,

766
00:35:38,679 --> 00:35:41,280
to a second appeal, you made good enough stories that

767
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,840
they go invest in these characters. You can make any

768
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,400
character become investable. You could these grinch socks that I'm

769
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,599
wearing right now. You could make a billion dollar movie

770
00:35:50,679 --> 00:35:52,719
if you play your cards right a lot harder. Now.

771
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,280
It is right because the box offs COVID streaming. But

772
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,920
I'm just saying that, and it doesn't. It's not universal. Right,

773
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,159
We've seen great stories. The movie's bomb. I'm not saying

774
00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:02,559
because they hate when people say that, like you just

775
00:36:02,559 --> 00:36:04,760
gotta make a great movie. No, not that, but I

776
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,519
think we saw multiple times that the audience was locked

777
00:36:07,519 --> 00:36:10,960
in and they made multiple mediocre to bad movies or

778
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,480
show in these phases, and I think they blame it

779
00:36:13,519 --> 00:36:16,280
on well, people just don't like these new characters. So

780
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,440
let's get the old ones back and let's give down

781
00:36:18,519 --> 00:36:22,320
a bunch of money. That's yeah, there you go. Put

782
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,000
a black panther made a billion exactly like, and that's

783
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,599
in the height of Marvel, right sure, but still, why

784
00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:30,079
aren't they in the heart like the height of Marvel.

785
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:35,519
That's on them. Whatever it is, Disney, Bob Iger, Bob, Jacob,

786
00:36:35,639 --> 00:36:40,119
Givin Fike, whatever decisions and a group effort, that's on them.

787
00:36:40,199 --> 00:36:42,679
They have the audience on the ride. And then at

788
00:36:42,679 --> 00:36:45,079
one point when they they would get in the cart

789
00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:47,199
for the roller course and go wooh up the side down,

790
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,760
and when they say you want to go again, they

791
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,480
go yeah. You know what eventually happened, They went, I'm

792
00:36:51,519 --> 00:36:54,960
good you lost them, you lost some of them, right,

793
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,239
So that's where for me, this is clearly just to

794
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,920
get back those people that they lost. Let's get Downy back,

795
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,440
Let's get Steve back. He's gonna be a main character.

796
00:37:03,639 --> 00:37:05,760
Yahda dadda da. I think a lot of the newer

797
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,360
characters are at risk. I think a lot. And it's

798
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,360
tough too, right, when like I love Thunderbolts, when you

799
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,800
look at that box office, it's hard to justify that.

800
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,599
I think people did check out and they're not giving

801
00:37:14,599 --> 00:37:17,280
Marvel chances, and why would they go back in New

802
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,440
Thunderbolts too, when they'll be like, let's do x Men,

803
00:37:19,519 --> 00:37:22,000
let's do a new Tony Stark, let's do new Seve Rogers.

804
00:37:22,039 --> 00:37:24,119
Because I do think those characters are people that they

805
00:37:24,119 --> 00:37:28,159
will give a chance to again. But to me, that's

806
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,400
that makes me more worried for the next phase phase seven,

807
00:37:31,519 --> 00:37:34,280
eight nine, as far as okay, so if these also suck,

808
00:37:34,559 --> 00:37:37,119
you know, you can just disregard these and throw these

809
00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:40,800
out right. So it is disappointing. Now, my hope is

810
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,400
that they tie it all together, and I'm wrong. The

811
00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:46,199
Russos were great at that. I've said this before. Even

812
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,280
an endgame, a movie like thor Dark World, which I

813
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,480
had no interest in, was the lowest tier in the MSU.

814
00:37:50,519 --> 00:37:52,960
At one point, they wrote that in and made it work.

815
00:37:53,039 --> 00:37:55,159
They're like, oh this, even this thing that everyone kind

816
00:37:55,159 --> 00:37:57,280
of dogs on, they made it vital. I don't think

817
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,280
they can do that with how many projects they have

818
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,320
now with these, but maybe there is a way to

819
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,639
do these things and land the plane safely. Right, I

820
00:38:05,679 --> 00:38:08,440
think was Rising Skywalker. The way they land the plane.

821
00:38:08,519 --> 00:38:10,480
The plane was damaged and you could never fly that

822
00:38:10,519 --> 00:38:13,079
plane again. And I've said this before. If this movie

823
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,719
or Secret Wars is a Rise of Skywalker situation, I

824
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,679
think a lot of this is people giving it a

825
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,119
second chance. I'm not saying in droves they will come back,

826
00:38:22,119 --> 00:38:25,000
but I think people that are lapsed MCU fans will

827
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,079
give it a second chance. If these movies don't hit,

828
00:38:29,159 --> 00:38:31,320
fool me wants to shame on you fool me twice,

829
00:38:31,639 --> 00:38:36,119
can't get fooled again. You know, I'm taking some warrior

830
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,480
and just around the corner, you got DCU kicking up.

831
00:38:42,519 --> 00:38:47,400
You got this stuff. It's something where people could move

832
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,280
somewhere else, right, Sera Mic says, could also be a

833
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,280
situation where Secret Wars does worse than Dooms, say, like

834
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:56,440
Star War sequels absolutely right, and like even like for you, Mike, right,

835
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,320
like like we could and because you even say like

836
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,079
the second part of the play. But that's where I

837
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:02,079
feel that even if it's word of mouth, we can

838
00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:04,920
had the strong stuff. But if let's say Doomsday gets

839
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,960
bad word of mouth, people will I don't flink flocked

840
00:39:08,199 --> 00:39:10,639
Secret Wars. They still have the ace in the car

841
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,800
that I've always said. They'll make a fucking poster a

842
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,400
Hugh Jackman Toe Maguire standing side by side, and it's

843
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,079
a billion, right technically even with the Star Wars sequels,

844
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,800
they kept going down, but they still made a billion, right,

845
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,039
Still massive successes, even though especially why Skywalker very expensive.

846
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,960
To me, it's this is all about the retention. It's yeah,

847
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,320
I feel like these movies are baked and if none

848
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,480
of if neither of these movies one of the other

849
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,760
does not make a billion, then they're cooked. Then they're

850
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,199
in big trouble. Doesn't know however it is, then there

851
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,360
is an issue. There is like even these big head

852
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,159
honchoess where you're bringing back so many people. If one

853
00:39:43,159 --> 00:39:45,559
of these movies doesn't make it, you're in big trouble

854
00:39:45,639 --> 00:39:47,440
and you gotta hope these movies are great, right, But

855
00:39:47,519 --> 00:39:50,159
to me, this is more of a retention play where

856
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,119
you want to do a big thing, maybe reset everything,

857
00:39:53,199 --> 00:39:55,519
get the money, but you want to make people feel

858
00:39:55,559 --> 00:39:57,559
like they love Marvel again. And if they do, as

859
00:39:57,559 --> 00:40:00,480
I've said this before, Spider Man, you're hitting with sperm boom.

860
00:40:00,559 --> 00:40:02,800
We've heard about Doctor Stranger, Black Panther three. Those are

861
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,159
stronger franchises. Boom boom, X Men around the Corner Boom.

862
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,679
They will start leading with just their big things. That's

863
00:40:08,679 --> 00:40:11,519
why we've heard for like rumors of lots of shows

864
00:40:11,559 --> 00:40:13,960
and movies going away because they don't have faith in right.

865
00:40:14,039 --> 00:40:17,719
So I will see I'm gonna hope. Obviously the Russos

866
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,119
have had a tough time with their movies that are

867
00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:21,800
not on MSU, but the MC movies, they've delivered something

868
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,239
old timers right, And I think as a teaser taking

869
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,199
myself out of his as a teaser, and if you're

870
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,159
just excited to see see Rogers back, I think it's

871
00:40:29,199 --> 00:40:31,480
really good. He pulls up. You got the Avengers team,

872
00:40:31,559 --> 00:40:33,239
you get the theme of him put in the suit away.

873
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,800
He has a child, way more stakes to lose. This

874
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,039
time you can see him and pay you on a

875
00:40:37,039 --> 00:40:39,199
happy ending and you go, Okay, what's gonna happen when

876
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,480
this character gets back in the fold? Right? People that

877
00:40:42,519 --> 00:40:44,880
don't care that Sam's gonna take a back seat, they're

878
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,599
just happy to see Steve. People at me is like, oh,

879
00:40:46,639 --> 00:40:49,400
I was excited to see what they do Sam, we

880
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,840
didn't get to do much. Hey, we did fucking win

881
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,519
a soldier, waited a long time, got a very mediocre movie,

882
00:40:54,679 --> 00:40:59,559
and that was it. So yeah, it to me, I'm

883
00:40:59,639 --> 00:41:02,559
this is not get me excited for it, obviously. Now

884
00:41:02,559 --> 00:41:05,760
it's confirmation of stelf we've heard going on. I think

885
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,719
this is more so just a big Hey Steve Rogers

886
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,039
is back. That's gonna get people talking, people like Chris Evans.

887
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,679
I'm Chris Evans. I'm sure kind of this is I'm

888
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,400
not saying needs a hit, but like obviously, the last

889
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,320
few movies hasn't been anything of matenance far as the

890
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,519
box officer critically, So I think this helps out. But again,

891
00:41:21,559 --> 00:41:22,960
it's gonna be a mistake that I'll come back if

892
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:27,320
they come back and this sucks, I don't think they

893
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,360
care that much Downy Evans, but they'll be a little

894
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,199
bit that would make me like egg on your face? Right,

895
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,079
you kind of you win out right, It's that idea

896
00:41:34,119 --> 00:41:37,480
of people that retire winning the super Bowl and it's

897
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,760
like you could go back and win another one. But

898
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,880
if you have a very awful season, does that stick

899
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,199
with you? Right? I don't know, And I think it

900
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,119
each to own right, because if Donney's gonna pay fifty million,

901
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,719
maybe he doesn't give a single fuck. Saying with Chris Evans,

902
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,800
if he's getting paid twenty five three, maybe he's gonna

903
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,880
give a single fuck if this movie sucks, Like, yeah,

904
00:41:55,039 --> 00:41:57,519
I'm happy to buy five more houses. I'm happy Chris

905
00:41:57,519 --> 00:41:59,320
Anders had a kid. I'm happy to be able to

906
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,599
support them, and they're grand shown right. Tons of people

907
00:42:02,679 --> 00:42:04,719
do that. Tons of people just accept the gig because

908
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,639
I don't care. It's money, and they might say this

909
00:42:06,679 --> 00:42:09,400
stuff in the future if like, oh well it's you know,

910
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,840
it was such a good way to ending. It's so perfect.

911
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,960
I don't know if I could ever go back Downey

912
00:42:14,039 --> 00:42:16,320
said the same thing on Rogan. He went back Evans

913
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,639
and said the same thing multiple times. He went back,

914
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,079
So we'll see, we're gonna be covering these I did

915
00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:23,559
say I guess at the beginning. I forgot to say

916
00:42:23,559 --> 00:42:26,119
that next week, the tras told yous, I don't know

917
00:42:26,119 --> 00:42:28,519
if they'll be happening, because I will be because what's

918
00:42:28,519 --> 00:42:31,760
happening next week is I already Christmas week or about

919
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,880
one more? Let me go back here, my god, next

920
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,320
week is Christmas, So I will be doing a review

921
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,760
of Stranger Things because I'll see that at some point

922
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,880
there's some downtime between CHRISP Day and Boxing Day. So

923
00:42:42,159 --> 00:42:44,880
that's what I'll say is, as of now, don't expect

924
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,679
a Travis told you. It's one of those things that

925
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,760
if because I might be traveling, I don't know the

926
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,719
date yet. If I'm home, I likely would do it,

927
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,559
but i'd say next week I'll probably be off. But

928
00:42:53,559 --> 00:42:55,519
there's other content that's coming out other than Stranger Things.

929
00:42:55,559 --> 00:42:58,519
I will review that. So uh yeah, that is the

930
00:42:58,559 --> 00:43:04,079
Doomsday talk. Yeah, it's it's gonna be interesting to see.

931
00:43:04,159 --> 00:43:06,840
I think overall, I think it's a fun idea. I

932
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,800
get why they're doing it. They're trying to drop the hype.

933
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,920
I understand completely all the moves. Now I'll have to

934
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,400
see the actual quality. Getting Steve Rodgers out there is

935
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,920
a big thing people that seeing Avenger or seeing Avatur

936
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,360
I have no idea about that. Man is at a

937
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,679
big pop moment, and uh yeah, we'll see what happens.

938
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,599
So let's end it here for the Avengers. So, yes,

939
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,800
talking Doomsday is over. I'm taking the spoiler thing down.

940
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,639
Let's get that and I'll talk about Batman and then

941
00:43:30,679 --> 00:43:32,880
we're gonna get out of here if I can not

942
00:43:33,039 --> 00:43:35,039
open up the wrong tab. But thank you everyone, if

943
00:43:35,079 --> 00:43:38,280
you did just watch for this, very much appreciate it

944
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,360
if you like what I did. As of right now

945
00:43:40,679 --> 00:43:43,239
until January, I'm doing the show twice a week, Monday

946
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:47,199
and Wednesday, usually eleven pm or eleven am PSD. Obviously

947
00:43:47,199 --> 00:43:48,880
next week because Christmas be taking the day off. And

948
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,159
then yeah, I think we'll run some surveys and let

949
00:43:51,199 --> 00:43:52,800
me know if you like this show, if you like

950
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,800
watching it, tell me how much you watch it. Everything

951
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,079
like that. I want to gauge. I'm not confirming the I'm

952
00:43:57,039 --> 00:43:59,400
gonna be still doing two a week come to New Year,

953
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,719
but we'll see. And then if not, we're gonna get

954
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,159
the boys, because I don't think any of them will

955
00:44:04,159 --> 00:44:06,599
watch these trails. But we're gonna be talking Avengers, lead

956
00:44:06,679 --> 00:44:09,159
up the trailers, the movie, all that jazz, and we

957
00:44:09,199 --> 00:44:12,480
cover all this stuff. So yeah, and speaking of the Batman.

958
00:44:12,559 --> 00:44:16,239
So there's where there's two things I had to do

959
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,039
here right where I've said to you guys, I had

960
00:44:19,039 --> 00:44:20,920
a couple of days off last week. Is my daughter's

961
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,679
nutcracker that takes up a lot of time, so a

962
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,760
lot of time on the phone, or like I'll go

963
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,440
watch the nut Crackers them in the theater for three hours.

964
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,039
So when I was in the theater for the first

965
00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:30,480
and three hours, all this stuff kind of broke and

966
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,719
I just pulled my phone, like, oh man, why the

967
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,840
Brad Pitt rumors? Whose Scar was playing? All this stuff?

968
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,480
So I was playing catchup, and the second day happened

969
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,320
where I wasn't watching the show, but I was watching Twins.

970
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,800
Lot of stuff happened where Gunn's going on one of

971
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,840
those debunka thons right where he's saying everything right, So

972
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,960
I'll just give you what the the scoops were, which

973
00:44:46,039 --> 00:44:47,920
multiple people put out there, and obviously there's one person

974
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,679
put out the main stuff, and gun didn't dispute any

975
00:44:50,679 --> 00:44:59,079
of that, right, but whoa excuse me? So we were

976
00:44:59,119 --> 00:45:02,079
talking about who's Scar Joe gonna play? Right? What's happening?

977
00:45:02,199 --> 00:45:04,880
Is it andre at Boemon? Is it Vicky Ville? Is

978
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,639
there poison Ivy? All that type of stuff, right, And

979
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,280
I said that there were some signs of phantasm. Really

980
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,400
wanted to be phantasm, but is it gonna be? I

981
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,119
didn't want to get overly excited and think it was

982
00:45:14,159 --> 00:45:17,719
fantasm and as of right now, it could not be right.

983
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,920
And here's my point with right now, where most time

984
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,639
on the show, when I'm giving the guys news because

985
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,039
if I say, Justin Krohll broke this news because they

986
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,840
like I try nowadays that I definitely am online, but

987
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,599
I try to pick times whether I am like if

988
00:45:31,639 --> 00:45:33,199
I take the butt, so if I have downtime, if

989
00:45:33,199 --> 00:45:35,000
I had the bus, or if I'm a doctor's pointment

990
00:45:35,039 --> 00:45:37,159
just in there, Yeah, that's what I'm gonna be scrolling Twitter,

991
00:45:37,559 --> 00:45:40,159
uh most times, or if it's during I've said before,

992
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,320
usually like like this morning was because it's trailer, or

993
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,000
like most time is if I'm watching wrestling, because follow

994
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,400
off restling people in there there's fun conversations and get

995
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,480
to see the kind of people's reactions are to stuff.

996
00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:51,760
But nowadays I try to take breaks from I try

997
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,239
to literally put the phone somewhere else, go away from it.

998
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,599
I have notifications on certain pages, so if it's news

999
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,840
or stuff that I'm interested in, I go okay, cool,

1000
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,599
so I don't have to just scroll find the news

1001
00:46:00,639 --> 00:46:02,719
right and luckily too, I've said this before. That's why

1002
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,800
I hang on the Discord a lot because the Discord

1003
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,119
drops a lot of news in there and join our

1004
00:46:06,159 --> 00:46:09,400
discord tons of conversation about all this stuff. Right, So

1005
00:46:10,079 --> 00:46:11,960
for me it was the thing I got bombarded with

1006
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,599
the news, and then I got bombarded with people's reaction

1007
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,599
to gun to bunkiness, right, and dyl and Tarya Kirkland

1008
00:46:18,599 --> 00:46:20,800
are even more so I feed them news. They're they're

1009
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,719
linked into the community, but they don't know the certain

1010
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,880
scoopers or the A tier. They might if I try

1011
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,480
to say something now, they might go, oh, that kind

1012
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,280
of sounds familiar. But if I say, hey, Justin Kroll

1013
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,800
report this news. You know Boris can't report this news.

1014
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,440
Jess Snyer report this news. Daniel Rpkert report this news,

1015
00:46:36,519 --> 00:46:38,000
they don't know. So that's why I'm the news. We

1016
00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:41,400
do a to C tire right now. Jess Snyer is

1017
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,159
the one that broke this news that will tumble the

1018
00:46:43,159 --> 00:46:45,960
Batman stuff. And I put him in the beat here.

1019
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,400
Some people might not like that, but talk about Doomsday

1020
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,519
like he's the guy to put out Danny's playing doctor Doom.

1021
00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:55,039
And then it was confirmed a week later he put

1022
00:46:55,039 --> 00:46:57,800
out the I'm talking about recent scooz right, and he

1023
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,719
put out the all They're gonna have three Star Wars

1024
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,519
films at celebration, and that's that they did that, right.

1025
00:47:03,119 --> 00:47:05,679
My point is not too because I watched the hot

1026
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,480
mic that he does. I watch it because I'm a

1027
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,320
fan of John Roka. John Roku a couple of years

1028
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,079
ago he hosted our Marvel Alliance for Extra Life. I

1029
00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:14,119
love that he was great to He didn't have to

1030
00:47:14,599 --> 00:47:17,079
he didn't like I didn't do anything, didn't pay him anything.

1031
00:47:17,079 --> 00:47:18,519
I never guessed on a show because like he's a

1032
00:47:18,519 --> 00:47:20,519
bigger guy than me, Like he didn't have to do anything,

1033
00:47:20,519 --> 00:47:22,599
and he was very nice, like he just knows that

1034
00:47:22,639 --> 00:47:23,840
I was a fan. We've talked a couple of times

1035
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,000
and I says, hey, could you do me a favor?

1036
00:47:25,039 --> 00:47:26,360
He took like an hour and half time to do

1037
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,519
that was very grateful, and I've been a fan of

1038
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,760
I when I started getting too podcasting was like most people,

1039
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,239
Kevin Smith, but it was Kevin Smith, Campia, the Schmos

1040
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,960
Collider and Roku kind of came along with that, right,

1041
00:47:38,199 --> 00:47:40,480
and those are kind of same people. I listened to you,

1042
00:47:40,559 --> 00:47:42,039
though I don't listen to the podcast that much now.

1043
00:47:42,079 --> 00:47:44,480
I listened to them and my friends. So I'll listen

1044
00:47:44,519 --> 00:47:47,159
to off c and one on Gay. I listened to

1045
00:47:47,199 --> 00:47:50,320
Ben Onreelo Anarchy, I listened to Dave la Vodka stream.

1046
00:47:50,599 --> 00:47:52,639
And I'm not saying every week, but when it's topics I

1047
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,559
like or whatnot, and sometimes there's something like I just

1048
00:47:54,639 --> 00:47:56,760
can't get to right. But now it's like a few

1049
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,760
of those old people, and then some people sprinkle in

1050
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,360
like a amiral. So there's people I have, but there's

1051
00:48:02,519 --> 00:48:04,559
also people that used to listen to that have gone away,

1052
00:48:04,559 --> 00:48:07,159
whether I don't enjoy their content anymore, whether it's the

1053
00:48:07,159 --> 00:48:09,599
type of content they cover, or just the person they've become.

1054
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,880
But that's where it's like, okay, right. So, and I've

1055
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,880
talked about on Vogus stream where there's a lot of

1056
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,639
people with the Snyder isms that hey, Jeff Snyder, right.

1057
00:48:16,639 --> 00:48:18,360
And there's some people that I follow that either was

1058
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,960
too much it's like okay, I met you, but like

1059
00:48:21,039 --> 00:48:23,559
you gotta you gotta stop, or like I did unfollow

1060
00:48:23,559 --> 00:48:25,960
a couple uh because it was the both of defending

1061
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,639
Gunner Schnyder. We're in a situation with the both. Where

1062
00:48:28,639 --> 00:48:31,119
I'm saying is it's not me defending Snyder and the scoop.

1063
00:48:31,199 --> 00:48:33,280
It's what my problem is with people, how they handle

1064
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,199
scoops is because they don't like said individual. It is

1065
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:43,320
it's uh literacy. Are media a literacy where because they

1066
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,719
don't like said person, everything is wrong. I'm not saying

1067
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,840
Jeff Snyder doesn't get a lot wrong. He is wrong

1068
00:48:50,039 --> 00:48:52,079
a lot of times. I'm not saying he is. You

1069
00:48:52,119 --> 00:48:54,639
can't take in the bank like a THHR or Dead

1070
00:48:54,679 --> 00:48:56,800
Thought anything like that. Yeah, damn roll is great, especially

1071
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,000
if a box office says super bad, like absolutely, I

1072
00:48:59,039 --> 00:49:01,000
love his reviews. That was another one I watch back

1073
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,159
in the day. It was screen Junkies and obviously lots

1074
00:49:03,159 --> 00:49:04,960
of bad shit went there and it disbanded. Right, So

1075
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,840
that's I mean, Like, there's people I don't listen to

1076
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,559
because I do on either content or a lot of

1077
00:49:08,559 --> 00:49:12,039
bad stuff happen and digress. But Dan Merle he's great,

1078
00:49:12,119 --> 00:49:15,880
right So for me, I guess what I get annoyed

1079
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,599
by is people it's just the blind, like all this

1080
00:49:18,679 --> 00:49:21,000
guy always has to be wrong. Jess Snyder has me

1081
00:49:21,079 --> 00:49:23,599
blocked on Twitter because years ago I follow him because

1082
00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:25,360
of a shmowdown and I talked to him a little

1083
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,960
about suff and I think I made a joke about

1084
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,960
like the Patriots cheating and then block and that's fine,

1085
00:49:31,039 --> 00:49:33,159
he can do whatever. I'm not a Snyder fan. If

1086
00:49:33,199 --> 00:49:35,440
Snyder was doing his own podcast, I would not be listening.

1087
00:49:35,679 --> 00:49:37,360
He just happens to be And I do think him

1088
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,119
and Roka have good chemistry. And I you know, so

1089
00:49:40,159 --> 00:49:42,519
like I don't like I don't hate any of these

1090
00:49:42,559 --> 00:49:44,960
like Scooper on that, because like if I hate somebody,

1091
00:49:45,159 --> 00:49:47,480
I just can't like listen per se, Right, So I

1092
00:49:47,519 --> 00:49:50,039
guess I don't hate Snyder. I don't like, like enjoy

1093
00:49:50,119 --> 00:49:52,039
or like Snyder, but I like Roka and they have

1094
00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:54,719
a good chemistry. And they talked about inside news stuff

1095
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,360
and there's tons of stuff that they both say they go,

1096
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,400
I disagree with, right, So he had put that out there,

1097
00:49:59,639 --> 00:50:01,440
and then Gunna had been debunking a bunch right, and

1098
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:02,960
people go, oh, I love when they debunk this. And

1099
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:07,079
that's where for me, we just talk about the just

1100
00:50:07,159 --> 00:50:09,159
the news. As far as this is the ranking, this

1101
00:50:09,199 --> 00:50:11,000
is the news. What do you think? And I'm just

1102
00:50:11,039 --> 00:50:13,039
putting this out there for any of my friends that listen.

1103
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,119
If you get this heated about that Scooper or you

1104
00:50:16,119 --> 00:50:17,960
get this heated about James Gunn because James Gunn is

1105
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,480
the opposite right or the other side where people say, oh,

1106
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,039
well he said this. There's been so many times where

1107
00:50:23,039 --> 00:50:27,159
Gunn has lied or just said things that weren't exactly true, right,

1108
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,159
And it's fine, it's not a thing for me. It's

1109
00:50:29,159 --> 00:50:31,559
just the other way. He was like, well, I'm not

1110
00:50:31,639 --> 00:50:34,599
gonna believe it until James Gunn says something, and then

1111
00:50:34,599 --> 00:50:37,199
he says something like see there it is okay. So

1112
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,440
like with Ultraman when he said Ultraman's on this movie,

1113
00:50:39,519 --> 00:50:41,679
Ultramat was in the fucking movie. Like that's the thing

1114
00:50:41,679 --> 00:50:44,920
that there's countless times where he'll say things that contradict himself.

1115
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,000
Whether it is he is lying or whether he is mistaken,

1116
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,639
whatever it is, I don't care. But it's when we're

1117
00:50:50,639 --> 00:50:53,440
talking in as like a point of view where it's like, hey,

1118
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,599
I can be believe this person as much as like

1119
00:50:56,639 --> 00:50:58,440
a certain percentage because they've said X, Y and Z

1120
00:50:58,679 --> 00:51:00,639
and they've been wrong with X, Y and Z. And

1121
00:51:00,679 --> 00:51:02,760
all I'm saying is when I because I think if

1122
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,119
I was happening live, it was fine. But what I

1123
00:51:05,119 --> 00:51:08,679
did is because the news I got on there scrolled

1124
00:51:08,679 --> 00:51:10,400
because I hadn't been on the phone for about four hours,

1125
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,800
scrolled and it was a combo of all this stuff

1126
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,800
and it was like all you like, you get two

1127
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,519
worked up. This is supposed to be fun, entertainment, movie news.

1128
00:51:18,559 --> 00:51:20,920
I guess if there's a scrupy or hate, I guess

1129
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,199
I understand. But unless he personally did something to you,

1130
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,320
I don't understand that. Unless James Gunn personally did something

1131
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,360
to you, I don't understand it. It's just like if

1132
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,800
you don't mute them and don't talk about them, don't

1133
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,880
talk about that. It's like what I said about dot anything, right,

1134
00:51:34,079 --> 00:51:36,159
you can occasional top of it. I did this week.

1135
00:51:36,159 --> 00:51:37,559
I have one negative tweet and then I had a

1136
00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:39,800
tweet propleone in that show that was positive, right, but

1137
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,760
it was about the d K funishes. But because I

1138
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,880
don't watch I've been there, which was like what twenty

1139
00:51:45,599 --> 00:51:47,840
thirteen twelve where it's just like your tweet and you're mad,

1140
00:51:48,199 --> 00:51:50,599
and that's just like there's not really much of a

1141
00:51:50,599 --> 00:51:52,679
point too, because the conversations are better here, and it

1142
00:51:52,679 --> 00:51:54,320
doesn't do good for your life because you just go right,

1143
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,360
this is just entertainment and you can't get worked up.

1144
00:51:56,519 --> 00:51:58,119
I guess for me, it's just like there's people that

1145
00:51:58,159 --> 00:52:00,760
are similar to my age or older that are getting

1146
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,639
so worked up, and I'm just like, haven't we outgrown this?

1147
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,679
Isn't this the time because you just realize, oh, this

1148
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,480
is just fictional stuff. He doesn't doesn't really bug me

1149
00:52:09,559 --> 00:52:12,079
because there's scoopers that, yeah, are f't here and they

1150
00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:14,360
put up the most shit. I just laugh or we

1151
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,199
have fun with it. Or even James Gun when he

1152
00:52:16,199 --> 00:52:18,760
says something, it's like, I don't think that's really true

1153
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,000
at all, but people get so worked up. So that's

1154
00:52:21,039 --> 00:52:25,000
all I'm saying is if any listen, you don't you

1155
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,800
don't do that, right, And then let's say I have

1156
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,800
high Ground says Gun isn't trying to spoil the movie.

1157
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,400
He isn't. So Gun isn't trying to spoil the movie.

1158
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,039
He isn't lying. He asn't gonna say anything though, high Ground, right,

1159
00:52:37,079 --> 00:52:39,119
and even as I love like what he said with

1160
00:52:39,159 --> 00:52:42,280
these tweets, right like when he said, like, you know,

1161
00:52:42,679 --> 00:52:45,239
I don't address silly rumors anymore, and then it was

1162
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,400
three paragraphs do I need to make because anybody that

1163
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,760
hates Jamee Gunn can make a ten minute video about

1164
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,559
like look at him fucking lying. Look at this he

1165
00:52:52,559 --> 00:52:54,760
said he wouldn't talk about. But here's a bunch of paragraphs.

1166
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,679
I just laugh and go, Okay. If I bump into

1167
00:52:57,679 --> 00:52:59,320
people and they say, well, I gotta hear from James

1168
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,920
Gun's mouth. So there are so many examples of why

1169
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,320
that does not work for me. And that's fine. I

1170
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,360
don't care. James makes a lot of movies. I like,

1171
00:53:06,519 --> 00:53:08,760
that's great, but to get so worked up and that's

1172
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,159
where for me, it's like he'sn't gonna say anything. So

1173
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,199
that idea is like, well, he wants to debunk it,

1174
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,400
but he's a wanna to spoil the movie. He almost

1175
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,039
spoils it in a sense of not saying like saying

1176
00:53:18,119 --> 00:53:20,360
something you know or it just like I said with

1177
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,480
the Ultraman thing, it just it adds nothing to it

1178
00:53:24,519 --> 00:53:26,519
because it just makes him look kind of bad. Right,

1179
00:53:26,519 --> 00:53:27,719
So that's all I would say to him. It's like,

1180
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,559
you don't gotta say anything, right, I think there's certain

1181
00:53:30,599 --> 00:53:33,039
things you can say. Yes, I just think that's the

1182
00:53:33,039 --> 00:53:37,360
thing where it's just I don't know, so I it's strange,

1183
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,519
but as obsessed to you and your mark or a

1184
00:53:39,559 --> 00:53:41,480
friend are going to self watch again. And that's the thing.

1185
00:53:41,559 --> 00:53:44,519
It's like, that's what you gotta do is vote with

1186
00:53:44,559 --> 00:53:46,760
your wall. Right, Because I've said this before where occasionally

1187
00:53:47,039 --> 00:53:49,800
I will tweet about the fed Noa's w B. But

1188
00:53:50,079 --> 00:53:52,199
as I learned and people have brought himeber was there's

1189
00:53:52,199 --> 00:53:54,719
some podcast back and they broke that down when I

1190
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,280
didn't think about right when I was younger, Like analytics

1191
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,360
and tweets, it doesn't matter if something is negative. It's

1192
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,440
like if you tweet it, they're getting any money off

1193
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,000
that they're prospering. So it's like, Okay, if I don't

1194
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,519
support this company, you don't watch them weekly, I'm rarely

1195
00:54:05,519 --> 00:54:07,199
gonna talk about it. And then when I do, if

1196
00:54:07,199 --> 00:54:10,360
you look at my non promotion WW tweets, probably the

1197
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,079
last time was probably Summer Slime when they brought back

1198
00:54:13,079 --> 00:54:16,719
to guy who's maybe allegedly doing sexual misconduct. Right, And

1199
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,360
I'm fine to put my neck out there and say like, hey,

1200
00:54:19,559 --> 00:54:21,960
this really sucks, you know, but it's not like I

1201
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,320
did not make it my personality for months to tweet about.

1202
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,079
It's like you got to go away from that point right.

1203
00:54:26,119 --> 00:54:30,480
So for people that don't like said any Scooper, you

1204
00:54:30,559 --> 00:54:33,320
might not like them, but just let it go. And

1205
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,280
especially if some of them are right. Right. That's the

1206
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,760
thing where it's just like they say these things and

1207
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,599
they try to parade like, look, they've got all this

1208
00:54:39,599 --> 00:54:42,039
stuff wrong, but then they can still get something right.

1209
00:54:42,079 --> 00:54:46,480
I'm not saying like, hold the fucking candle to him,

1210
00:54:46,519 --> 00:54:48,480
be like, oh, they're the god to your Scooper. No,

1211
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,519
and it's coming from somebody that's not like a justin

1212
00:54:50,639 --> 00:54:52,880
r fans, just like calm down that. And same thing

1213
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,360
with Gunn. He's multiple times told this truth I'll say,

1214
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,159
not lie, mistruth or he did diversions. So that's why

1215
00:54:59,159 --> 00:55:01,639
it's like when you say wall it's gone or nothing,

1216
00:55:01,679 --> 00:55:04,920
No it's not. It's not either way. So he debunked

1217
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,239
the brainiac things supposed with da Batista being the front runner.

1218
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,280
There was a report which that and that's how what

1219
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,440
I think what bugs me too is when I see

1220
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:17,320
my friends do this where they with this any Scooper right,

1221
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,920
they go, oh, this Scooper is wrong again, fucking idiot,

1222
00:55:21,039 --> 00:55:23,239
And then when the source of the rumors not them,

1223
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,239
it's like you just make yourself look kind of dumb, right,

1224
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,559
you just and I've been there before, right, I did

1225
00:55:28,639 --> 00:55:31,159
this yesterday on The Gimmick. I said this that Spuffs

1226
00:55:31,159 --> 00:55:33,960
and David I got fooled by a Parry account of

1227
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,440
a wrestler tweeting stuff, and I brought up on the

1228
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,000
Gimmicks saying, man, they're between the stuff. I don't like that.

1229
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,800
That's kind of shitty. And I had would have to

1230
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,239
redact that. I'm not gonna go edit ou because I

1231
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,519
would always say that. So that's fine as you get

1232
00:55:44,519 --> 00:55:46,599
fool and you go, oh, you know what, that's okay.

1233
00:55:46,639 --> 00:55:47,920
But I see a lot of people that don't do that.

1234
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:49,519
They won't be like, oh I got wrong. It's like

1235
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,079
I'll see in the comments someone say oh, actually this

1236
00:55:52,199 --> 00:55:53,760
was the case. This is the case, and they're not

1237
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,599
saying anything. They just want to dunk on that person, right,

1238
00:55:55,639 --> 00:55:57,559
And that's where it's like, okay, now I take you

1239
00:55:57,639 --> 00:56:00,280
less seriously and you're my friends. It's just people. Well,

1240
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,760
because I think it's because when I saw the Batman

1241
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,920
news on the Saturday and then the debunka thone from

1242
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,000
Gun on the Sunday, and I both saw them in

1243
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,840
just reduced tweet tweet tweetweet after another of catching up.

1244
00:56:13,079 --> 00:56:15,519
It was like, man, people are too fired up. But

1245
00:56:15,559 --> 00:56:17,039
this is why I'm happy that I put the phone

1246
00:56:17,079 --> 00:56:19,480
down a little bit. So yeah, I'm you know that.

1247
00:56:19,599 --> 00:56:20,800
That's where I don't know why I want to talk

1248
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,760
about it. It was just like my experience of seeing it.

1249
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:24,880
But we got well, I got fifteen more minutes, so

1250
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,599
let's talk about this now, right. So I guess the

1251
00:56:26,599 --> 00:56:29,559
one thing that Gun did debunk was someone had put

1252
00:56:29,559 --> 00:56:32,039
out that there's two front runners, which is like, I

1253
00:56:32,079 --> 00:56:34,480
guess it's just like, I guess two front runners makes sense.

1254
00:56:34,519 --> 00:56:35,840
It's just weird that you feel like someone has to

1255
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,800
be the front right but for Batista and then or

1256
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,440
for Brainiac. One person dude put out Patista. Another said

1257
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:45,360
that that's the thing. Uh he said that, Okay, he

1258
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,360
never said he's like, I never said Brainiac was in

1259
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,199
the movie. You don't need to say that. He said

1260
00:56:49,199 --> 00:56:52,079
he was doing because Batista is his friend. I guess

1261
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,360
I and maybe I'm wrong. This is where I completely

1262
00:56:56,639 --> 00:56:59,760
say I'm naive. Maybe there's a situation. I gotta take

1263
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,480
this sweater off. It's hot. I like wearing the Christmas gear. Gimmick,

1264
00:57:02,519 --> 00:57:06,679
but whatever. Maybe there's a situation where Big Dave Batista

1265
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,400
the Animal Right, he's on social media and he's just

1266
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,159
getting blown up about these fucking brainiac tweets and he messes,

1267
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,440
oh sorry, he messes his gun and Gun's like, you

1268
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,079
know what, I'll send out a tweet. I'll calm the

1269
00:57:17,079 --> 00:57:18,920
people town and tell them it's not you. I don't

1270
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:20,320
really do this anymore. And you know what, And this

1271
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:21,920
is where I'll say on record, if he does that,

1272
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:23,760
that's a great friend. If he's like I said, I'll

1273
00:57:24,039 --> 00:57:26,440
talk about these rumors, but if it's annoying you, I'm

1274
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,639
gonna do that. I don't think Batista did that. It's

1275
00:57:29,679 --> 00:57:31,039
just what I think. I don't think he's like a

1276
00:57:31,039 --> 00:57:33,039
looking like people are talking to me about Brainiac, you

1277
00:57:33,039 --> 00:57:35,119
should say something. But he said, well, because it's my friend,

1278
00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:37,679
I'm gonna debunk this one, okay, And he says, hey,

1279
00:57:37,679 --> 00:57:40,440
Batista's not Brainiac. I never said Brainiac was in the movie.

1280
00:57:42,079 --> 00:57:44,519
I have ideas for Batista in the DCU great. I

1281
00:57:44,519 --> 00:57:47,440
think Patisa as Brainiac I think would be fantastic. I

1282
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,159
think it is obviously he would be fantastic. Batista's under

1283
00:57:50,199 --> 00:57:52,719
rated actor. I don't think he even needed to say that.

1284
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,800
As far as like, unless Patisa's in the movie, right,

1285
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,159
I would just said Batista's not in this movie, but

1286
00:57:58,199 --> 00:57:59,760
I have other ideas. But maybe he is. Maybe there's

1287
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,119
another right. So that's where it gets tricky where you

1288
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:06,239
answer these things. But I digress. He did that fine,

1289
00:58:06,519 --> 00:58:09,400
the Batman stuff, though, much to other people's point on

1290
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,039
the Scooper side defending it, he didn't say anything about

1291
00:58:12,039 --> 00:58:14,519
that stuff right, where with Robin there was that room.

1292
00:58:14,559 --> 00:58:16,159
But Robin he did come out and say that's not true,

1293
00:58:16,159 --> 00:58:17,880
and we don't know if it is true, right, So

1294
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,000
the rumors were that also. We talked all about this,

1295
00:58:20,039 --> 00:58:23,400
to go way back to the beginning. Scargro is reportedly

1296
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,480
playing Guild the Dent, who I think has a different

1297
00:58:25,559 --> 00:58:27,480
name like Guild the Gold or something before she becomes

1298
00:58:27,519 --> 00:58:30,679
a Dent. Right, I'm gonna try not to do spoilers,

1299
00:58:30,719 --> 00:58:35,480
But how should I tackle this? I guess I'll say

1300
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,239
that to the very end it won't be spoilers. But

1301
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,480
and then the other thing was, which to me is

1302
00:58:39,639 --> 00:58:42,480
the biggest no dub? But is they're casting Harvey Dent?

1303
00:58:42,599 --> 00:58:44,599
They no. Scooper has said two Face, but they're casting

1304
00:58:44,599 --> 00:58:48,119
Harvey Dent. Oh excuse me. The casting Harvey Dent. To me,

1305
00:58:48,199 --> 00:58:51,159
it's like you had a da in the Batman and

1306
00:58:51,199 --> 00:58:53,559
then you killed that da off. Clearly there is an

1307
00:58:53,599 --> 00:58:56,559
open spot for the Harvey Dent like that felt like

1308
00:58:56,599 --> 00:58:58,679
even if it's not two face, it felt like a

1309
00:58:58,719 --> 00:59:00,960
setup of like Harvey Dent's me in, so no dub.

1310
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,280
And then we had heard over the weekend or I

1311
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,280
think it was like the Friday Thursdays that Brad Pitt

1312
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,440
was rumored to be in this movie, right could it be?

1313
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,639
And it's Snyer's the first one that put that out.

1314
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,480
And then this is the thing too that people because

1315
00:59:13,519 --> 00:59:15,920
this is where it's just the media literacy, right. He

1316
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,719
put that out there as not he said he said

1317
00:59:18,719 --> 00:59:21,599
as an uncredible source. But someone did tell me that

1318
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,559
they were talking Brad Pitt, hard reported. Next they say

1319
00:59:24,639 --> 00:59:27,360
that's not the case, but did confirm that they had talks.

1320
00:59:28,239 --> 00:59:30,119
So even though the Brad pit thing doesn't happen, a

1321
00:59:30,159 --> 00:59:31,920
bunch of people dunk on Snyer because like, oh he

1322
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:36,239
got wrong, no Brad Pitt. But then Esther reporters will say, oh, well,

1323
00:59:36,239 --> 00:59:37,840
they were talking to for months, it didn't work out,

1324
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:39,880
and now the rumor's just scheduling. It sounds like with

1325
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,480
Stone it was money. Sounded like with Pitt was scheduling, right.

1326
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,760
So that's where it's just like, that's why I don't

1327
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:46,480
even tweet about it, or at least like walk it

1328
00:59:46,519 --> 00:59:48,119
back and be like okay, like when people do the

1329
00:59:48,159 --> 00:59:51,440
dunking on anybody. But it's not true. It's it's very

1330
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,320
like political type of stuff, right, where people just lie

1331
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,280
to make their point. It's fucking weird stuff people are

1332
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,880
like online does suck. It's you can't say completely right,

1333
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,039
because you can see good stories and things like us

1334
01:00:03,119 --> 01:00:05,039
raising twenty k for Extra Life. We can never do

1335
01:00:05,079 --> 01:00:07,280
that without social media, so there is good things about it.

1336
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,960
But it's just it's a weird fucking place, man. That's

1337
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,800
why I try to only nowadays most other having some fun,

1338
01:00:13,079 --> 01:00:15,320
I usually just promote what's going on with Geek first,

1339
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,239
or like the Extra Life or projects. Right, So the

1340
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,480
rumor was he was gonna be playing I can't remember

1341
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,599
that even his dad's name, but he's even playing Harvey

1342
01:00:22,639 --> 01:00:26,000
Dent's dad, who is like an abusive, sixty year old

1343
01:00:26,239 --> 01:00:29,519
drunk like stuff like that bad relationship with the father, right,

1344
01:00:29,559 --> 01:00:31,519
and which I think could play in good with Bruce.

1345
01:00:31,559 --> 01:00:33,159
We don't know if Bruce and Harvey would be friends,

1346
01:00:33,159 --> 01:00:35,199
but it's this way of Hey, Bruce lost his parents

1347
01:00:35,199 --> 01:00:36,920
and Harvey has his dad, but his dad's piece of shit,

1348
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:38,840
so it doesn't matter that his dad's alive. He might

1349
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,480
wish his dad's dead, right, And it sounds like forst

1350
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,760
scheduling or for whatever reason, Pitt didn't get that role

1351
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,519
or didn't accept that role. So that's the rumor right

1352
01:00:47,559 --> 01:00:49,840
now that they are casting three roles. That they're casting Gilda,

1353
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:51,800
which obviously sounds it's gonna be scar Joe, They're casting

1354
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:53,960
Harvey Dent, which there's no names on there, and then

1355
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,880
they're casting his father, which obviously sounds like the Dents

1356
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:58,719
have a big thing to do with it. People are

1357
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,519
talking about The Long Halloween because Gilda Dent has a

1358
01:01:01,519 --> 01:01:03,360
big story there. That's all say, Right, it has a

1359
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:07,239
big story, and I'll just say the idea of a

1360
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,320
love interest that turned villainous, who we heard a couple

1361
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,440
of weeks ago for this character fits that story. So

1362
01:01:13,519 --> 01:01:16,679
it's like, okay for me, I want fatasm. I never

1363
01:01:16,719 --> 01:01:18,679
thought it was gonna happen. I saw there was some redcrumbs,

1364
01:01:18,679 --> 01:01:20,280
didn't thing it was gonna happen, So I wasn't. I

1365
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,639
was disappointment, not overly disappointed. Here's the thing where I

1366
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,000
understand where it's like the Steve Rogerson I just talked

1367
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,760
about and uh uh with the endgame and uh with

1368
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:31,800
uh in Finny warn if they were to bring that

1369
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,440
character back, right, not saying they have brought the character back,

1370
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:38,360
but if they were to with it, I'm in like

1371
01:01:38,559 --> 01:01:41,000
that's a negative for me. There's people that when this

1372
01:01:41,119 --> 01:01:43,039
news broke, I saw tons of people. No I'm like

1373
01:01:43,079 --> 01:01:44,880
a shitty way, but just tons of people that felt

1374
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,880
like it was underwhelming. And even the chat like I

1375
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:48,400
discorded had a couple of people It's like, ah, like

1376
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:52,039
cause take out TV shows and animation alone and video

1377
01:01:52,079 --> 01:01:56,639
games in just the movies in thirty years between Batman Forever, Uh,

1378
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,880
Dark Knight and now this, three times Harvey Dent has

1379
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:03,440
been in a villain or a character right when. That's

1380
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,400
why I've always said when people joke or they kind

1381
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,519
of dunk on making more Batman movies and what more

1382
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,400
like I can't remember who I think it was co

1383
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,199
when he said Oh, like you've done like what he

1384
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,400
said some quote I'm gonna completely paraphrase, right, I'm not

1385
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:17,719
trying to nunckle him, but he just said, like, oh,

1386
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,280
there's been so much already. Are almost all of it's

1387
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,599
been done with Batman? How do he make it new? No,

1388
01:02:22,719 --> 01:02:25,400
it hasn't. In my opinion, there's so much with Bruce

1389
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,400
Wayne as a character Batman you have, Like I feel

1390
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:31,199
like the movies have just slightly touched upon how Bruce

1391
01:02:31,199 --> 01:02:33,960
Wayne could almost be listed as an addict with that

1392
01:02:34,119 --> 01:02:38,039
Batman soon being Batman right, and with characters black Mask,

1393
01:02:38,559 --> 01:02:44,800
a fucking scarface, Professor Pig even like more fans. And

1394
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:48,199
that's the thing. There's characters that they've done ros Al Ghoul, Killer,

1395
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:53,679
Killer Killer, Kroc Bane. They've not done the fantastical versions.

1396
01:02:53,679 --> 01:02:56,519
Like there's so much with Batman you could do, so

1397
01:02:56,679 --> 01:02:59,960
I understand why the initial reaction is just kind of like, oh,

1398
01:03:00,119 --> 01:03:02,159
we could have Andrea Boma, which we shouldn't have fancast,

1399
01:03:02,199 --> 01:03:04,039
but still we could have had her. And it's just

1400
01:03:04,199 --> 01:03:06,639
Harvey Dent's wife, you know, And it's like, oh, all

1401
01:03:06,639 --> 01:03:09,119
these talks of who the characters would be Court of Ows,

1402
01:03:09,159 --> 01:03:12,800
which is new Hush all this stuff. Oh, it's just

1403
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,519
Harvey Dent, now I get. I guess I'll continue on.

1404
01:03:15,599 --> 01:03:17,800
I guess it hasn't been confirmed that there's more villains. Right,

1405
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,639
two things, I guess back before I close off the

1406
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:23,800
or before I run away from the disappointment thing. I

1407
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:27,360
get that. I understand, Like I said, multiple iterations of

1408
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,000
the character in a short amount of time, like sure,

1409
01:03:29,079 --> 01:03:32,320
like thirty is not that long for movies and TV shows, right,

1410
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,239
being adapted For me, I'm in a situation where I'm

1411
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,480
sure some people are with the Russos and with Marvel

1412
01:03:37,519 --> 01:03:39,920
in general still like I trust them, they're gonna do great.

1413
01:03:40,599 --> 01:03:42,599
I'm that way with Matt Reason until I get a

1414
01:03:42,639 --> 01:03:44,880
film that I do not enjoy. Right, take fam Boy Clay,

1415
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:46,639
check them out. He's on our podcast now we're going

1416
01:03:46,719 --> 01:03:50,440
Star Wars. Alliance always has some hot takes. We rarely agree.

1417
01:03:50,679 --> 01:03:52,840
But where I and he did not like Reeze Batman, right,

1418
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:54,519
so I can see from his point of view of

1419
01:03:54,559 --> 01:03:56,280
you get this, like I already didn't like that Breeze

1420
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,320
Batman movie, and now it's two face again, AH need

1421
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,599
to be sold of it? Right Where I loved that

1422
01:04:01,639 --> 01:04:04,320
Batman movie I could say it's the best Batman movie.

1423
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,800
I trust Reeves because that also let the Right One

1424
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,239
in or the Apes movie. So I have so much

1425
01:04:10,519 --> 01:04:12,960
game tape where it's like, until I get a bad

1426
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,599
movie from Reeves, I'm gonna trust them. Is it my

1427
01:04:15,679 --> 01:04:18,119
first pick? No, do we need to do Harvey Dent again?

1428
01:04:18,239 --> 01:04:19,719
I don't know. I don't think so. I don't think

1429
01:04:19,719 --> 01:04:22,280
Harvey Dent even then, though, I guess like there's things

1430
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:23,920
that they've done in the comics that they've not done

1431
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,400
with Harvey in the movies, right, even them being good

1432
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,320
friends him and Bruce, So there's stuff you can do.

1433
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,960
It's just there's definitely more on the board that I

1434
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,400
was hoping he would go. Right. I definitely always knew

1435
01:04:34,519 --> 01:04:36,280
Dent would be in here. I thought they were the

1436
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:38,119
same way Dent was set up. I thought it was

1437
01:04:38,159 --> 01:04:41,800
being like hush with the Elliott stuff. Right. Mike says,

1438
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:43,719
it's not like the Riddler was obscure character either. It's

1439
01:04:43,719 --> 01:04:46,440
all about how you adapt and make him feel unique.

1440
01:04:46,639 --> 01:04:50,000
So I agree to a point, Mike, But I think

1441
01:04:50,039 --> 01:04:54,119
the thing with me is like, obviously there's two versions.

1442
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,039
I love the Jim Carrey Batman forever performance in a

1443
01:04:57,079 --> 01:04:59,480
fun way, but as an adaptation, A Riddler not a

1444
01:04:59,519 --> 01:05:02,559
fan right, if you just look at movies, it's just that,

1445
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:07,719
and it's just Paul Dano, the great Paul Dano, and

1446
01:05:08,079 --> 01:05:10,800
what they did that forever didn't do. They did want

1447
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,000
a serious Riddler that was a big threat. And they

1448
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,480
did do a new adaptation which was like a jigsaw Riddler,

1449
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:18,320
a John Doe seven. Right. So that's the only pushback

1450
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:21,599
I'd give is at least with two Face and Harvey,

1451
01:05:22,159 --> 01:05:24,800
you got Dark Knight, which was a very serious interpretation. Right,

1452
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,360
Riddler was still lacking that from a movie point of view.

1453
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,599
But you're right, that is a thing, and that's where

1454
01:05:29,599 --> 01:05:32,000
I'm wondering. So in that sense, I trust Matt Reeves.

1455
01:05:32,039 --> 01:05:33,920
It's not my first choice. I would have love Matt Reeves,

1456
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,320
but to me, if him and Matt Thomson think that's

1457
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,039
the right story, in trust in Matt Reeves, I will

1458
01:05:39,039 --> 01:05:42,239
do so. Now as far as the what I've wonder

1459
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,239
with the marketing and this character in like the long

1460
01:05:44,239 --> 01:05:47,920
Halloween aspect, I think that I've seen so many people

1461
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:49,880
even that was anything, right. I saw a tweets like,

1462
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:53,440
oh it's Snyder says, it's heavily inspired. I listened to

1463
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,599
the podcast and he even clarified, like I just said that

1464
01:05:55,639 --> 01:05:57,920
they were taking elements, But the internet ran with that

1465
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,000
right and said always gonna be wrong again because probably

1466
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,719
Guilda Dent has a big storyline there, but a lot

1467
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:06,480
of people like Carmine or Alberto, a lot of characters

1468
01:06:06,519 --> 01:06:09,800
from Long Halloween are off the board, So I think

1469
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,199
it's just going to adapt certain elements of the Dents

1470
01:06:12,239 --> 01:06:14,880
there and maybe other stuff. Sure, would I love it

1471
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:18,159
to be twelve months the Long Christmas because they did Halloween.

1472
01:06:18,239 --> 01:06:20,159
Would I love to be a twelve month story? And

1473
01:06:20,199 --> 01:06:24,079
we get a segment where Barry Keegan has a airplane

1474
01:06:24,519 --> 01:06:26,679
like a mini helicopter, and Batman is on tauf of

1475
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,920
it trying to get him during Christmas. Fuck yeah, imagine

1476
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:34,079
Barry Kegan's Joker gone at Christmas, Like that'd be fun.

1477
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:36,440
I don't think that's happening. But then one of the

1478
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,719
last few panels of that book, what happens with a

1479
01:06:38,719 --> 01:06:43,199
bunch of the villains that I can see that I

1480
01:06:43,199 --> 01:06:45,679
can see? Let's see? Said Sam says, not sure if

1481
01:06:45,719 --> 01:06:49,280
audio issues on your end are a mind I let's see.

1482
01:06:50,119 --> 01:06:52,199
Let me. Take a look, you're scaring me, sir hopefull

1483
01:06:52,199 --> 01:06:54,719
I'm good. I think that's youo because my MIC's working

1484
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:56,280
and says I'm the right mic, So I'm sorry. If

1485
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:59,320
anyone else chat, let me know. But with Long Halloween,

1486
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:00,719
it ends in a way where it's like, oh, that

1487
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:03,400
makes sense, So I think it's like most stories, Mike

1488
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,320
has no issues here, so Sam, it might be your

1489
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:09,079
connection or something. So always refreshed or off so you

1490
01:07:09,119 --> 01:07:10,519
can check back up the feeds after they'll be the

1491
01:07:10,519 --> 01:07:14,920
audio version. But with Long Halloween, I think they're just

1492
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,400
gonna take portions of it, same way as Dark Knight

1493
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:19,679
took portions, same way as The Batman already took portions

1494
01:07:19,719 --> 01:07:21,440
from it, right, So I don't think we're gonna be

1495
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:24,599
getting any sort of full and adaption. So yeah, we'll

1496
01:07:24,639 --> 01:07:27,719
see what happens. And I guess for me with Riddler,

1497
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,159
like I think passing him being a new Batman that

1498
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:32,280
was a selling point. But I have to see, like

1499
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,679
I think Riddler and the way they did him is

1500
01:07:37,679 --> 01:07:40,079
I guess what what I'm getting to is with Harvey Dent,

1501
01:07:40,239 --> 01:07:43,480
do they is Harvey Dent in this movie gonna be

1502
01:07:43,519 --> 01:07:46,280
two facers as a setup, right, and if he is

1503
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:48,159
two face, let's just say for arguments sake, he is

1504
01:07:48,199 --> 01:07:50,119
beginning to become two face. Do they show that in

1505
01:07:50,159 --> 01:07:52,800
trailers The Dark Knight? They could hint at it. They

1506
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:54,760
didn't have to show that because we got the joke er.

1507
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:56,880
We got to quote that film The Ace in the Hole, right,

1508
01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:00,280
and that was Keith Fledger Gray's performance all time as Joeoker.

1509
01:08:01,039 --> 01:08:03,119
In this, I don't think two face is the same

1510
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,119
as in the whole unless you do literally show he

1511
01:08:05,199 --> 01:08:08,360
becomes two faces, like right away he's a marketing posters,

1512
01:08:08,679 --> 01:08:11,400
then I think that is a sun If it's not. Okay,

1513
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,960
so you got him, you got this new character. Gilda Dent,

1514
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,640
I don't think that's a big selling Jeremiah Arkham, I

1515
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,079
don't think that's a big selling You could use Barry's

1516
01:08:20,199 --> 01:08:22,880
Joker more if you were to use them similar long Halloween.

1517
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,479
Maybe you use that as a selling point. Now this

1518
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:29,359
is where I could be wrong. They could do what

1519
01:08:29,399 --> 01:08:32,039
I was I gonna say, or just like in general,

1520
01:08:32,279 --> 01:08:35,880
people if they loved the Batman Part one are just excited.

1521
01:08:36,159 --> 01:08:37,680
You don't really have to get them in the door, right,

1522
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:39,359
because the same way I could say with the Dark

1523
01:08:39,399 --> 01:08:41,000
I don't think it's not. I don't think the Batman's

1524
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:42,319
on the same level as the Dark Knight as far

1525
01:08:42,319 --> 01:08:44,479
as hype, but the same way as like in the

1526
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,600
Dark Knight Rise as the villain was Bane, who I

1527
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:49,600
don't think is a very popular GA member villain at

1528
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:52,239
that point. But I'm saying people can name him, but

1529
01:08:52,279 --> 01:08:54,720
it's not like a joke or a poison ivy Catwoman. Yeah,

1530
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:56,760
but see, that's a tough thing I was gonna say,

1531
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:58,279
because the Dark Knight people are locked in, but they

1532
01:08:58,279 --> 01:09:00,359
stilled Catwoman and Catwoarm to me is an ace and

1533
01:09:00,359 --> 01:09:03,239
the whole promotion. So yeah, I was gonna ask Chat

1534
01:09:03,199 --> 01:09:05,079
the same thing. Like Suer Mike says, they haven't really

1535
01:09:05,079 --> 01:09:07,880
done the crazy split personality two Face. But do you

1536
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:09,920
think from people you know in the GA, do you

1537
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:13,119
think two Face alone, even as just the two face

1538
01:09:13,159 --> 01:09:14,600
with the mess of face, do you think that is

1539
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:17,359
as big of a selling point as a riddler, a joker,

1540
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:20,840
a Catwoman. I think he's above below or a tier below.

1541
01:09:21,079 --> 01:09:24,000
And granted there could be jokers in this, there could be.

1542
01:09:24,039 --> 01:09:26,319
And that's where even with last week we had Catwoman,

1543
01:09:26,359 --> 01:09:29,000
if Catwoman was in this, I'd say, I don't need

1544
01:09:29,039 --> 01:09:30,600
to worry. Still another ace and the whole character. I

1545
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,479
think two faces just like just below that, unless it's

1546
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,159
like a big like Leo as two face, like a

1547
01:09:36,199 --> 01:09:37,760
big tier actor. So let me know in the chat

1548
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:41,000
if it is as Riddler. Yes, No, I'm saying, is

1549
01:09:41,079 --> 01:09:45,800
two face as like two face? Is he? Yeah, you're

1550
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:49,439
saying he's as big as Riddler. I'm assuming Mike's so like, Okay,

1551
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:53,199
I still don't think so, but you could be right,

1552
01:09:53,279 --> 01:09:55,560
because like Dark Knight was massive film, that is the villain.

1553
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,039
But as I've said, though, I'll stand by if they

1554
01:09:58,079 --> 01:10:01,359
don't show two face and it's just the Halliday killer,

1555
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,159
a killer. If they didn't just show Harvey, you need

1556
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:07,319
some sort of hook, right, you need something there in

1557
01:10:07,319 --> 01:10:09,520
my opinion, So we're just waiting, I think, for that

1558
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:12,199
other shoe to drop, or maybe they're just gonna coast off. Hey,

1559
01:10:12,399 --> 01:10:14,560
we're gonna make this good movie. It's gonna be a mystery.

1560
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:16,760
People loved that first one. We're gonna hope they come back.

1561
01:10:17,319 --> 01:10:19,399
And that's what makes me curious. As far as I

1562
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:23,479
always thought, Okay, if let's say, what am I doing

1563
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,159
for a time here, I got foremous if it was,

1564
01:10:29,239 --> 01:10:30,880
I guess. I even talked about this with Scar Joe.

1565
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:32,840
She was fantasm that's not Ace in the Hole, but

1566
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:34,880
it's like you could maybe market that as like some

1567
01:10:35,039 --> 01:10:39,319
newer character that's intriguing, like almost Bane in the Ga, right,

1568
01:10:39,359 --> 01:10:42,319
Like he's not newer, but like not a big established villain.

1569
01:10:42,399 --> 01:10:43,760
And that's why I still thought kat On was gonna

1570
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:45,199
be say, yeah, it's tough as far as like I

1571
01:10:45,239 --> 01:10:48,199
guess to walk back it, right. I always thought Harvey

1572
01:10:48,239 --> 01:10:49,720
Dent would be in this movie, but I did not

1573
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:51,720
think you'd be the selling point villain. I always thought

1574
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:53,640
it'd be Harvey Dent and somebody else or he turns

1575
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,399
in two Faces, et cetera as a selling point villain.

1576
01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:00,399
Who knows. I guess it depends who they get. Yeah,

1577
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:02,880
we'll see. I'm waiting because we got these rumors and

1578
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:05,720
if they're casting stuff now, I guess what we got

1579
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,640
about sixteen days. I don't think they're gonna officially let

1580
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:12,199
us know, but let's see. Superman says they really didn't

1581
01:11:12,199 --> 01:11:14,960
sell Riddler as hard as Riddler for the first one.

1582
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,640
He was more seven to zero killer. Yeah, and you're

1583
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:19,680
right right, And that's but that's the thing where it's

1584
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:24,680
just like, like to your point with the split personality thing,

1585
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:26,600
I do like that with two face and you could

1586
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:30,239
sell that. It's just like if Gilda Dent is in

1587
01:11:30,279 --> 01:11:33,239
there is Guilder or Glilda. I don't know if Scar

1588
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:36,079
was playing his wife. I feel like he's not gonna

1589
01:11:36,079 --> 01:11:42,079
be Harvey right away, right, So oh geez, Disney developing

1590
01:11:42,159 --> 01:11:45,399
a new live action Gaston movie. All right, say that

1591
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,680
weekly geekboys, they could talk about that. Yeah, And that's

1592
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:50,720
the thing, right, Mike. And that's where it comes back

1593
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:52,560
to what I said with the Dents everything, I think

1594
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:54,319
you might be similar to mine, and no, Maddie would be.

1595
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:58,920
I trusted Matt Reeves and those traders, especially that first one.

1596
01:11:59,039 --> 01:12:01,119
I don't know if all tame, but I can say

1597
01:12:01,119 --> 01:12:05,159
that first Batman from the FanDome easily a top three

1598
01:12:05,199 --> 01:12:07,640
COMBOO trailer of all time. It could be up there

1599
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,760
for a top ten, top twenty. It is phenomenal, Right,

1600
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:12,520
So I trust them. I just want to see, like,

1601
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,439
what is the angle of it, right, Gilda could be

1602
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:17,600
the lawyer. Harvey is already two faces, which I would

1603
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:19,920
I would love the two things I pitched when we

1604
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:21,840
were telling Jay was that because then you could have

1605
01:12:22,239 --> 01:12:24,920
maybe Guilda and some stuff inside. Or I did wonder

1606
01:12:25,119 --> 01:12:27,159
and maybe you'd get some red eye thumbnails who knows.

1607
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:29,880
I wonder if you could use Harvey as a fake

1608
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:33,479
out and Gilda is actually two face in this, I'd

1609
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,720
be fine that. I would love it if Scarchow is

1610
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:39,560
like a race or not race that already happened, got

1611
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:41,800
in trouble once. If there's a gender swap two face

1612
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:46,039
with Scarjo, that'd be fun. But yeah, we'll see what happens.

1613
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:50,199
I'm just loving that we're getting Batman two news. Yeah

1614
01:12:50,239 --> 01:12:52,640
you'd like that too, Yeah, put on the two there.

1615
01:12:53,039 --> 01:12:54,840
But yeah, I would love that because, like again, we've

1616
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got so many two faces. I don't care if they

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changed it up a little. Let's have some fun with it, right,

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Like look what they did with the veil and the

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U in the the Telltale series, Like change it up,

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do some stuff. So that, as Travis told you, for

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this week, I will be let me just confirm the calendar.

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Uh yeah, I'll be back for Wednesday. Wednesday should be

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the same time Elemon am pst. Who knows what breaks there?

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It might be an Evergreen because the boys got a

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weekly Geek because they moved fall out, so the schedule

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I haven't posted to it because all over, But thank

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you very much as easily the most watched tress told you.

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I know a lot of you were here for the

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doomsday talk, but surprise you stuck around. Then the viewership

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just went up, so I very much appreciate that. Let

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me know on the post on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook or

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a Patreon or the discord join that talk about that

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there and yeah, I'll be back Wednesday. We'll see what happens.

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Thank you everybody. Hope you have a good rest of

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your week, and I promise when you hear for me

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next you'll not be boring.