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<v Speaker 2>Five star shot and.

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<v Speaker 3>Rights on Yesterday listening watching lim always keep its watching.

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<v Speaker 2>And now you're hosts Cliff Berrickman and James.

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<v Speaker 4>Boobo Fay Bobo.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, how are you doing, my friend?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh? Not bad, not that at all. It's beautiful day.

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<v Speaker 5>We just had two days, great weather.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's pretty awesome here too, pretty awesome here. Anything

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<v Speaker 4>else going on? Anything fun? Your work is probably winding

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<v Speaker 4>up right being a teacher's aide. And it's almost June. Here,

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<v Speaker 4>you got a couple more weeks of school.

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<v Speaker 5>Two more weeks, yeah, two more weeks and two days.

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<v Speaker 4>What are you gonna do for summer?

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<v Speaker 2>Party?

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<v Speaker 4>You?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 4>Here an elementary school student out for the summer.

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<v Speaker 5>You're gonna build a for with my new friend in

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<v Speaker 5>water balloon fight and you're.

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<v Speaker 4>Gonna be signing in the yearbooks, like have a bitch

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<v Speaker 4>in summer anything like that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, we got to move in July.

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<v Speaker 4>So oh is it final? Is it done deal?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I remember, well yeah, but I mean nothing's really a

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<v Speaker 4>done deal till it happens with you.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>So I told you I got the sixty day notice,

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<v Speaker 5>the official sixty day notice.

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<v Speaker 4>It's still counting down. Huh.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's been eleven days. We got forty nine days.

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<v Speaker 5>That crea has a freaking thing on the door, so

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<v Speaker 5>I can't miss it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, don't want you to be late for

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<v Speaker 4>that or anything. So yeah, you can't be late for

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<v Speaker 4>that one. Where are you guys going to move to?

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<v Speaker 4>You figured out yet or no?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, we've got the option to move in next door,

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<v Speaker 5>but we're going through like all like everything, like because

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<v Speaker 5>we still need store. Like they want to leave it.

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<v Speaker 5>They want to keep the furniture in it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not yours.

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<v Speaker 5>No, the next doorhouse.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh oh okay, that's you meet your house and say

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<v Speaker 4>who's gonna want that furniture?

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<v Speaker 5>Man me nobody.

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<v Speaker 4>Well yeah you we have. But besides that, because imagine

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<v Speaker 4>you probably had the same couches as like ten years

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<v Speaker 4>ago when I was there.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought I'm new in two thousand and twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you don't want to get rid of that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's animal planet money.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you been in the woods at all, boats or

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<v Speaker 4>anything going on?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? I got up to up by a big Lagoon,

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<v Speaker 5>Trinido area. I got up there twice and just just

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<v Speaker 5>walk on the side of the road looking do they

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<v Speaker 5>they do they're up there, man, they are moving around

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<v Speaker 5>up there. Nothing really castable. You know, it's pretty pretty.

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<v Speaker 5>It's super duffy up there. I mean there's like a

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<v Speaker 5>ten inch layer of red wooden cypress needles. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it's just it's it's just not great. There's there's some

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<v Speaker 5>places was exposed to it, but there's they don't step there.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, it's a it's promising up there. Yeah, it's promising.

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<v Speaker 4>Got to move a little closer to there though. When

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<v Speaker 4>you get out, we're.

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<v Speaker 5>Looking up there. Yeah, yeah, I mean we're looking all over.

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<v Speaker 5>Be kind of. I want to be out of town

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<v Speaker 5>just I want I want to I want to be

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<v Speaker 5>where I can actually look out the back window and

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<v Speaker 5>have a chance of seeing a squatch.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, try to get up there or something. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>everywhere you go out of town it's gonna be good

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<v Speaker 4>for you. What direction is bad? I guess directly west

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<v Speaker 4>is bad because that's the ocean.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Well right on, man, I hope everything keeps going

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<v Speaker 4>smoothly with that.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I doubt it will, but we'll see you.

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<v Speaker 4>Check out that new documentary from Small Town Monsters.

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<v Speaker 5>Yet oh the NBC.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I did not bad, huh.

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<v Speaker 5>It was cool. Yeah, it got released. We watched it

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<v Speaker 5>like right when it got released. I was it only

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<v Speaker 5>had like seventy views or something, and we watched it.

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<v Speaker 5>By tim we were done watching it, there was like

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<v Speaker 5>thirteen thousand views. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a very very well attended little thing there.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And of course Bobo's in the documentary briefly gets some

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<v Speaker 4>nice side shots of skinny bobes out in the woods

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<v Speaker 4>with us.

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<v Speaker 5>I love that kind of stuff. I'm in with my friends,

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<v Speaker 5>like their little things, like like little background things or

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<v Speaker 5>something like. It was like kind of like in a.

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<v Speaker 2>B roll, uh huh.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>That was from some of our members videos for a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of years ago. When you came up, we made

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<v Speaker 4>a couple you know, museum does videos, as everybody knows,

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<v Speaker 4>and Boba was in a couple of those.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are clips from there.

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<v Speaker 5>That's when I was getting my trailer right right.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very good. Eli's films were awesome, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Speaking of Eli's films, I don't think I've spoken to

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<v Speaker 4>you lately. But last Thursday was the premiere of The

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<v Speaker 4>Ape Canyon The Siege of the Siege of Ape Canyon,

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<v Speaker 4>the small Town Monster's production all about Mark Marcel and

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<v Speaker 4>his research and work and stuff. It was also very

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<v Speaker 4>very good, really enjoyable. I saw a lot of familiar

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<v Speaker 4>faces in there. My favorite amongst them was Brad Brad Angus,

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<v Speaker 4>who's Mark's kind of the next door neighbor. I can't

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<v Speaker 4>say a research partner because he doesn't care about the research.

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<v Speaker 4>He just likes hanging out with Mark. And as much

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<v Speaker 4>of a muppet as Mark is, Brad is even more

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<v Speaker 4>so in some ways. He cracked me up.

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<v Speaker 5>Warren insane.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, he's nuts, and you know. And then afterwards

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<v Speaker 4>we went over to Mark Marcell's house because he has

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<v Speaker 4>a house in on Town, Vancouver, and Catherine Jziara's wife

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<v Speaker 4>and Mark was there and a few other people and

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<v Speaker 4>we're sitting in on the back porch with as Craig

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<v Speaker 4>Flippy was there, was hanging out with him, and then

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<v Speaker 4>out of the darkness, out of the tangled bamboo thicket

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<v Speaker 4>that is Mark Marcel's backyard, this figure comes holding an

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<v Speaker 4>oil lantern up like above his head. Out of the darkness,

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<v Speaker 4>and of course it's Brad Angus. He's carrying an oil

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<v Speaker 4>lantern like a grave digger or something like that, out

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<v Speaker 4>of the darkness and comes up and sits in the porch.

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<v Speaker 5>It was awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's just as awesome in person as he is

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<v Speaker 4>on camera. So well, I got out for a quick overnighter.

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<v Speaker 4>You know Michael, of course, who lives up by Port Angelis.

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<v Speaker 4>Michael and his family have been out of town for

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<v Speaker 4>a year. Let me back up a little bit, because

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<v Speaker 4>Michael is one of the guests we had in the podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>He is a long term witness. If you're a museum member,

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<v Speaker 4>not a podcast member, but a museum member and maybe

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<v Speaker 4>a podca. I don't remember Matt, they'll probably remember, but

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<v Speaker 4>I've done a couple of videos at his house before.

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<v Speaker 4>He had a very odd, very strange handprint on his

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<v Speaker 4>roof after something slapped his house extraordinarily loud in the

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<v Speaker 4>middle of the night and left a handprint eleven feet

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<v Speaker 4>off the ground. I went up and did a follow

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<v Speaker 4>up investigation, made a museum member video out of that,

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<v Speaker 4>and then about two years ago I went to their

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<v Speaker 4>property because they had been out of town for six

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<v Speaker 4>or ten months or something like that. You see, Michael

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<v Speaker 4>and his family are snowbirders, and for people who don't

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<v Speaker 4>know what that is, they live in Washington and so

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<v Speaker 4>during during the winter months they go to a different home.

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<v Speaker 4>They have a different home down in southern California, so

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<v Speaker 4>they go down there during the weather and then when

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<v Speaker 4>they returned to Washington in the summertime, when the weather

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<v Speaker 4>is perfect and lovely every single day. So that's what

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<v Speaker 4>a snowbirder is. So last time, two years ago, I

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<v Speaker 4>went to Michael's property right before they got home because

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<v Speaker 4>they hadn't been home in a long time, and there

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<v Speaker 4>were footprints on the property because Sasquatches cruised by their

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<v Speaker 4>affair mount asked a footprint in the creek a few

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<v Speaker 4>hundred yards from their house. It was great, it was great.

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<v Speaker 4>But Michael called me recently and said, hey, we're coming

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<v Speaker 4>back up in June, which means that we're going to

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<v Speaker 4>be you know, trimming the brush on the property and

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<v Speaker 4>cutting things back and you know, doing house stuff and

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<v Speaker 4>making it more livable and all that jazz. So if

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<v Speaker 4>you want to go look around for bigfoot evidence, you

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<v Speaker 4>should do it soon.

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<v Speaker 5>And so I did.

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<v Speaker 4>I did that this past weekend, I just ran up

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<v Speaker 4>for a quick overnighter out to the outskirts of Port Angelis, Washington,

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<v Speaker 4>and sure enough, the sasquatches had been there, just not

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<v Speaker 4>very recently. I found prints in the mulch pile over

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<v Speaker 4>by the chicken coop where I found them last time.

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<v Speaker 4>And underneath there you're familiar enough with the property, Bubba,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I'm talking about. Underneath the chicken coop

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<v Speaker 4>on the hillside, there was a trackway going around down

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<v Speaker 4>in there. I did not find a castable print. These

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<v Speaker 4>were pretty old. The ones in the mulch pile were

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<v Speaker 4>the best. And I don't know how old they are.

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<v Speaker 4>I really don't because again I'll say it again, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not an expert tracker. I'm just kind of a hobbyist.

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<v Speaker 4>But these things were at least two to four weeks old,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe older. I'm not sure. They are pretty weather worn,

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<v Speaker 4>but you can see them, and there was enough shape

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<v Speaker 4>to them, especially in the toes, to indicate that it was,

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<v Speaker 4>in my opinion, the same sasquatch that I cast the

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<v Speaker 4>footprint of two years ago, the one that I think

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<v Speaker 4>they well, they either call them Loki or the gardener.

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<v Speaker 4>The Gardener is the big one walks around during the day,

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<v Speaker 4>and Loki is the one that SLINKs around at night,

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<v Speaker 4>so I'm not sure which one it is. But the

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<v Speaker 4>prints are about sixteen inches long, so really cool trip.

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<v Speaker 4>It was very quiet at night. I did the entire

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<v Speaker 4>property because it's not a real big property. It just

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<v Speaker 4>happens to be at the end of the road, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>so it's pushed up against wild lands. You don't have

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<v Speaker 4>to have like thirty acres to have bigfoots. You can

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<v Speaker 4>have like an acre or two if you're in the

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<v Speaker 4>right position and have sasquatch popping by. But I went

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<v Speaker 4>out and walked the roads afterwards, and I didn't find

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<v Speaker 4>any tracks. But man, I'm telling you, if you could

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<v Speaker 4>get out there twice a week walk the roads, you

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<v Speaker 4>would get some really nice prints eventually, because so much

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<v Speaker 4>of the logging road substraight up there is just perfect

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<v Speaker 4>for footprints. Man, it's just insane up there. But I

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<v Speaker 4>was pretty pleased got some tracks, So I made a

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<v Speaker 4>little museum video about that that'll be coming out this weekend. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>it'll be coming out May thirty first, which is probably

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of weeks ago. By the time this episode airs,

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<v Speaker 4>but still a great time. Really nice to have that

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<v Speaker 4>that long ago, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I've been there a couple of times the last few months.

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<v Speaker 5>That's where I took those not to film, but just

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<v Speaker 5>We went up there because I was staying up there,

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<v Speaker 5>shine down and the exactly it turned out it was

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<v Speaker 5>the exact spot where they've seen it, like the same

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<v Speaker 5>like I take take photos and said in the Michael

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<v Speaker 5>exact same little gap. I'm like, yeah, that's where it was.

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<v Speaker 5>It was down there blinking at me and I heard him,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, there's a little whistle knocks and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 5>And uh. And then when those guys came the next

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<v Speaker 5>night they were there was two of them on the property,

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<v Speaker 5>two small ones, I guess, but dude's total frickin Murphy's law.

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<v Speaker 5>When we went, we went down, you're like, we went

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<v Speaker 5>through there, and we were walking on kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 5>getting over here or whatever, but we were that's where we

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<v Speaker 5>an alarm set up out there, so if you walk

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<v Speaker 5>goes off and the things set off the alarm as

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<v Speaker 5>it ran. We heard it running like sprinting up above us,

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<v Speaker 5>and then the alarm went off, and oh, my guy's

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<v Speaker 5>got cameras out there, and the camera ran in front

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<v Speaker 5>of of course had a full spiderweb of both the

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<v Speaker 5>cameras that were that would have got it had full

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<v Speaker 5>spiderwebs over the lens and you couldn't see anything. It

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<v Speaker 5>was just like this flash of white heat, like like

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<v Speaker 5>total no, it was just completely amorphous there was no

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<v Speaker 5>shape to it at all. There's no identifiable arm leg

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<v Speaker 5>or anything, but yeah, it was. That's a hot spot

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<v Speaker 5>for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>We know that that road when we filmed the Finding

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<v Speaker 4>Bigfoot episode where I was what was Oh, Matt and

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<v Speaker 4>I went to British Columbia and you and Renee were

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<v Speaker 4>in Washington. Well after Matt and I were done filming

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<v Speaker 4>and we came back down and we had like a

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<v Speaker 4>kind of downtime while you and Renee were busy on camera,

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<v Speaker 4>we had a little bit of downtime, I believe, or no,

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<v Speaker 4>I think maybe I don't know, it's such a long

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<v Speaker 4>time ago. I'm kind of forgetting. Maybe I was doing

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<v Speaker 4>a camping segment. I think I was doing a camping

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<v Speaker 4>segment for it or something. But I went to their

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<v Speaker 4>property and I walked that old logging road and that's

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<v Speaker 4>where I found that really odd tree break thing where

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<v Speaker 4>a small I think it was a cedar tree had

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<v Speaker 4>a branch coming out and the branch itself had been

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<v Speaker 4>broken and then bent in a V shape and then

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<v Speaker 4>hung on the same branch it was broken from. So

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<v Speaker 4>that I believe made it on camera. So if anybody

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<v Speaker 4>goes back to the Finding Bigfoot, episodes where we were.

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<v Speaker 4>In the episode where we were in British Columbia and Washington,

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<v Speaker 4>that little segment there was filmed on that same property,

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<v Speaker 4>on Michael's property, or at least adjacent to it. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>long history of stuff on that property and what he says,

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<v Speaker 4>we should have Michael back on there just to give

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<v Speaker 4>some updates. But then he's been mostly absent lately because

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<v Speaker 4>he's been in the southern California for a little while.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I don't know, give him a couple months

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<v Speaker 4>and I'll have plenty of stories, I'm sure. And he's

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<v Speaker 4>an avid listener actually too, so Hi Michael, who Hello,

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<v Speaker 4>Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bogo.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll be right back after these messages.

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<v Speaker 2>So three to.

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<v Speaker 4>bigfoot Land. It's not very long because we've been looking

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<v Speaker 4>like what would you do in three to six months?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna give me a six months go squatching squad

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<v Speaker 4>of course, of course, And how much do you think

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<v Speaker 4>is going to get done during that time. In squatching,

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<v Speaker 4>you're gonna see one in six months, probably not, but

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<v Speaker 4>in three to six months. What you can see if

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<v Speaker 4>Enough of the catch up, let's get onto the regularly

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<v Speaker 4>scheduled stuff. Matt Pruitt, you have anything to.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, Yeah, we had a guest lined up, but there

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<v Speaker 2>were some technical issues, so the guests couldn't make it,

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<v Speaker 2>So we quickly are pivoting to this monthly Q and A.

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<v Speaker 2>And usually when we do these, you know, I have

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<v Speaker 2>some advanced notice and I curate all the questions and

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<v Speaker 2>format the voicemails and format the written submissions, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>listen to them. But since we pivoted last minute to day,

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<v Speaker 2>literally while we were recording this intro, I have no

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<v Speaker 2>idea what these voicemails are, what they're asking for, whether

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<v Speaker 2>any of them or Frank calls. So let's find out together.

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<v Speaker 4>Ooh, I love impromptu improvisation, little jazz here for you,

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<v Speaker 4>a little jazz podcasting.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just going to go in alphabetical order by name.

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<v Speaker 2>And so the first voicemail here is from Andy. Hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Andy Walker.

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<v Speaker 5>How are you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm up in Canada, in the Toronto area. So, first off,

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<v Speaker 3>I notice that Matt has been doing a lot more

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<v Speaker 3>on Mike engagement with you guys during the show in

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<v Speaker 3>recent episodes, in this last sort of six months or so.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's really cool. He adds a really awesome

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<v Speaker 3>dimension and adds a lot to the show. So, first

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<v Speaker 3>of all, love that second of all, here's the question

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<v Speaker 3>is how did Matt get involved with you guys, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>do you remember the first time you met him and

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<v Speaker 3>any interesting or fun stories around that. Was it on

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<v Speaker 3>finding Bigfoot or was it somewhere else? And then beyond that, like, Matt,

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<v Speaker 3>what was your impression of than Bobo when you first

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<v Speaker 3>met him?

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<v Speaker 5>What damn?

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<v Speaker 2>I should say?

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<v Speaker 3>And we'd love to hear sort of the origin story

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<v Speaker 3>about how each one of you got to know each

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<v Speaker 3>of the other ones.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 3>For your hard work, guys, love it, watch it or

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<v Speaker 3>listen to it, I should say every week anyway.

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<v Speaker 5>One word to answer, grinder.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you don't know Bobo, well, whenever he farts,

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<v Speaker 4>he says, grind it. So I guess Bobo farted and

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<v Speaker 4>Matt came running.

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<v Speaker 2>I've actually never encountered at Bobo fart. Really, yes you have,

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<v Speaker 2>if I had to think about it, I think I've

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<v Speaker 2>only hung out with Bobo in person like eight or

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<v Speaker 2>nine times since two thousand and nine, so over well

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<v Speaker 2>over a decade, like fifteen years, sixteen years, I think

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<v Speaker 2>only like less than ten times, which is quite sad. Really, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to think about it. I mean, some of

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<v Speaker 2>those were like a week long because we were shooting

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<v Speaker 2>the show, or like multiple days. But yeah, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to think. But yeah, I think there's ten

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<v Speaker 2>or less.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, I guess, you know, I think about it. You're right,

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<v Speaker 5>that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>But I guess I'll let you guys answer. Since his

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<v Speaker 2>first part of the question was pitched to YouTube.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh's first part of the question is I love Matt.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's great. Well, I agree, I think the

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<v Speaker 4>podcast is better for Matt Pruitt chiming in now. I

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<v Speaker 4>suspect the first time I met you was the Sagoth thing. Yes, sir, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that'd be my guest. At least I remember having beers

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<v Speaker 4>around the fire with you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to hear the origin story, Andy, you

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<v Speaker 2>should listen to our Remembering Bob Saggot episode which we

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<v Speaker 2>recorded right after he passed away. But yeah, I met

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<v Speaker 2>Cliff and Bobo filming an episode of a show. I

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<v Speaker 2>actually met Bobo prior the year before at the first

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<v Speaker 2>yeak him a big Foot round up, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>very brief. We didn't get to really chat or anything,

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<v Speaker 2>but I knew who he was because I watched the

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<v Speaker 2>mysterious encounters on a regular basis when that season aired,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I heard Bobo and Cliff on early blog

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<v Speaker 2>talk radio shows like Let's Talk Bigfoot and what was

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<v Speaker 2>Henry May's early one oh Crypto Thing, hbm's Crypto Corner,

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<v Speaker 2>Crypto Corner. I was a guess, yeah it was. It

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<v Speaker 2>was things like that. So I was very familiar with

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<v Speaker 2>the Cliff and Bob. So then when I moved out

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<v Speaker 2>to Washington, I met really for the first time, met

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<v Speaker 2>them and hung out during that Sagath thing, and then

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<v Speaker 2>so I went down to Oregon several times. We had

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<v Speaker 2>a blast. And then when the first Finding Bigfoot episode

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<v Speaker 2>came around, one of the first ones that was greenlit,

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<v Speaker 2>I had provided a lot of the information and the

426
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<v Speaker 2>witnesses and the locations, and so Cliff, Bobo and Moneymaker

427
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<v Speaker 2>pushed Ping Pong to hire me as the local fixer

428
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<v Speaker 2>for that particular episode, and they did so, which I'm

429
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<v Speaker 2>super surprised about, still very grateful for. So if you

430
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<v Speaker 2>go back and listen to the Let's Watch Fighting Bigfoot

431
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<v Speaker 2>Bigfoot Crossing in Georgia episode of this podcast and go

432
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<v Speaker 2>back and listen to the Remembering Bob Saget episode. You'll

433
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<v Speaker 2>get the full story there after the Sagat thing. When

434
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<v Speaker 2>I worked on the show, we had a great time

435
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<v Speaker 2>like filming in Georgia, and then was asked to do

436
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<v Speaker 2>another episode for season three and had a great time

437
00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:07.319
<v Speaker 2>hanging out there and kim visiting you guys filming in

438
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<v Speaker 2>other places like Indiana and Tennessee over the years. But yeah,

439
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<v Speaker 2>I've known Cliff and Bobo for a long time. We

440
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<v Speaker 2>always talked a lot. Cliff and I have probably talked

441
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<v Speaker 2>on the phone once a week the entire time we've

442
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<v Speaker 2>known each other, even I think when you're on the road,

443
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<v Speaker 2>we still kept in touch quite a bit. And then

444
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<v Speaker 2>it was very fortunate for them to ask me to

445
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<v Speaker 2>do like editing and producing and putting these episodes together.

446
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<v Speaker 2>So I've been on almost every call. In the first

447
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<v Speaker 2>year when we started this podcast, I was working a

448
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<v Speaker 2>day job, and so if they recorded during the daytime,

449
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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't on all those calls. But for the most part,

450
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<v Speaker 2>I've been on every recording session, and then in the

451
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<v Speaker 2>last three or four years have definitely been on just

452
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<v Speaker 2>about every recording session, and it's been a great joy

453
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<v Speaker 2>see this thing and grow and keep doing it.

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<v Speaker 4>And he's an obvious choice for that sort of thing

455
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<v Speaker 4>because he's organized, he's disciplined, which is something that I'd

456
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<v Speaker 4>say Bobo and I are probably not as disciplined as

457
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<v Speaker 4>Matt is in my opinion. And also he has a

458
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<v Speaker 4>lot of sound experience being a musician and all that

459
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<v Speaker 4>sort of stuff and the recording and everything. So yeah,

460
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<v Speaker 4>he's just the obvious choice for editing and all that

461
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<v Speaker 4>sort of stuff. And he's smart as hell too, and

462
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<v Speaker 4>one of the smartest big footers alive, so I want

463
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<v Speaker 4>to make sure that he had a hand in this.

464
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<v Speaker 4>I remember back in the day Finding Bigfoot was the

465
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<v Speaker 4>cast was populated by actors, like so many of these

466
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<v Speaker 4>reality shows are. And I remember Todd, I think his

467
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<v Speaker 4>name was, a guy who did quote unquote talent at

468
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<v Speaker 4>a discovery. He said, yeah, we got actors, but it

469
00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:36.680
<v Speaker 4>soon became very apparent they didn't know anything, so they

470
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<v Speaker 4>actually decided to go plumb the Bigfoot community and got.

471
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<v Speaker 2>Us four instead. So all very cool.

472
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it sure helps to know what you're talking about

473
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<v Speaker 4>with some experience if you're going to be doing a

474
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<v Speaker 4>podcast which is literally nothing but talking. It's really a

475
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<v Speaker 4>really good idea to have to say, you know, a

476
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<v Speaker 4>handful of years or a decade or two under your

477
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<v Speaker 4>belt before you start talking about stuff, you know, in

478
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<v Speaker 4>my opinion.

479
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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and I owe a lot to both of

480
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<v Speaker 2>you guys, Just so you know, I know I've said

481
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<v Speaker 2>it in previous episodes, but it's probably been a while

482
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<v Speaker 2>since I've said it, so I definitely need to remind,

483
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<v Speaker 2>you know, if Andy's a newer listener doesn't know, like,

484
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<v Speaker 2>I've been involved for a long time, but I'm very

485
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<v Speaker 2>much a kind of a behind the scenes person, and

486
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<v Speaker 2>so if I look back, you know, in the last

487
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<v Speaker 2>several years, like the majority of like speaking events, or

488
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<v Speaker 2>you know, a lot of the opportunities that have been

489
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<v Speaker 2>extended to me were a direct result of like Cliff

490
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<v Speaker 2>and Bobo's generosity. You know, Bobo recommended me for things,

491
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<v Speaker 2>or Cliff recommending me for things. So you know, if

492
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<v Speaker 2>there's any of those things that come my way, usually

493
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<v Speaker 2>it's as a consequence of Cliff and Bobo just being

494
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<v Speaker 2>generous and making the references or the referrals and passing

495
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<v Speaker 2>that along. So I'm very very grateful, for sure.

496
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<v Speaker 5>I'm just trying to look smart, recommend, and prove it.

497
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<v Speaker 2>That's why you guys have top billing in the acknowledgements

498
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<v Speaker 2>of the of the book.

499
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<v Speaker 5>I was shocked when I read that. I was like,

500
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<v Speaker 5>no way, I couldn't believe it.

501
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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's true. You guys have a huge and loyal audience,

502
00:23:02.799 --> 00:23:05.640
<v Speaker 2>and I'm very grateful to get to interact with them

503
00:23:05.680 --> 00:23:08.480
<v Speaker 2>and help bring this show to them in any way possible,

504
00:23:08.480 --> 00:23:10.400
<v Speaker 2>because it's super cool to see over the year. It's like,

505
00:23:10.599 --> 00:23:13.039
<v Speaker 2>it's so crazy because you know, obviously I knew you

506
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<v Speaker 2>guys before the show, but there's been many times when

507
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<v Speaker 2>I've seen people come up to you that are huge fans,

508
00:23:20.519 --> 00:23:22.200
<v Speaker 2>and I get struck with that all over again. There

509
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<v Speaker 2>was one time, I think the first Gatlinburg conference. We

510
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<v Speaker 2>had just arrived and it was the night before the

511
00:23:28.440 --> 00:23:30.680
<v Speaker 2>conference and we were walking around, Me and Emily and Cliff.

512
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<v Speaker 2>You remember the random woman saw you on the street.

513
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<v Speaker 2>She didn't even know about the conference. She's like, oh

514
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<v Speaker 2>my god, are you Cliff from finding Bigfoot? She started crying,

515
00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:40.480
<v Speaker 2>and like Emily and I started crying. And so that's

516
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<v Speaker 2>such a rare, special, awesome thing. And so for you

517
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<v Speaker 2>guys to have me you know be able to bring

518
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<v Speaker 2>that to people every week here, It's like, I never

519
00:23:49.440 --> 00:23:51.759
<v Speaker 2>take that for granted. That's a super special thing, and

520
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<v Speaker 2>so I love seeing all the outpouring of support that

521
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<v Speaker 2>your audience continues to give you. For sure.

522
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<v Speaker 4>Well, there's nothing that makes me happier than making people cry.

523
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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you that. I mean, I saw you know.

524
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<v Speaker 2>I told this story. It might have been on a

525
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<v Speaker 2>members episode. I don't think I told her on the

526
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<v Speaker 2>main podcast. But when we filmed the Small Town Monsters

527
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<v Speaker 2>show the Ancients, they were speaking with the Cherokee woman

528
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<v Speaker 2>who was an indigenous. She carried on a lot of

529
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<v Speaker 2>indigenous oral traditions, sort of like a local storyteller. So

530
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<v Speaker 2>they were interviewing her about Sasquatch related stories. So everyone

531
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<v Speaker 2>had cleared the area so they could do the one

532
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<v Speaker 2>on one interview and it would be quiet. So when

533
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<v Speaker 2>they brought us back up, I overheard her saying they

534
00:24:30.680 --> 00:24:32.799
<v Speaker 2>asked her like, oh, you should speak at Bigfoot conferences.

535
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<v Speaker 2>She's like, I don't really do that, but I went

536
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<v Speaker 2>to one and I met Turtleman and they were like

537
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<v Speaker 2>that's cool. She's like, well, the highlight of it is

538
00:24:39.799 --> 00:24:41.839
<v Speaker 2>that I told Turtleman how much I loved Bobo, and

539
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<v Speaker 2>Turtleman called him and got him on the phone. So

540
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<v Speaker 2>I immediately pulled out my phone to call Bobo, and

541
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<v Speaker 2>Bobo almost never answers my calls. So the Bobo answered

542
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<v Speaker 2>and the first thing he said was, dude, to my

543
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<v Speaker 2>late for the pod. And I was like, no, no, no,

544
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<v Speaker 2>there's no pod today.

545
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<v Speaker 5>You're on time.

546
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<v Speaker 2>But I have someone who really was to talk to you.

547
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<v Speaker 2>And I put him on the phone with her and

548
00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:05.160
<v Speaker 2>she cried, you know, and we were all tearing up,

549
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<v Speaker 2>like all of us because it made her so happy.

550
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<v Speaker 2>So that's such a cool thing to see. Man. Every time,

551
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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, man, that's just amazing. So but yeah, Andy,

552
00:25:14.359 --> 00:25:17.559
<v Speaker 2>there's some old episodes of this podcast that will give

553
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<v Speaker 2>you the deeper backstore, and they're very funny too, so

554
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<v Speaker 2>I would definitely go listen to those.

555
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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's go to the next question.

556
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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's move on to Eric. See what Eric

557
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<v Speaker 2>has to say.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, Cliff, Bobo, and Matt, this is Eric from Phoenix,

559
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<v Speaker 6>and my wife and I grew up and lived our

560
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<v Speaker 6>first part of our married life in Iowa. We then

561
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<v Speaker 6>moved to Ohio. We then moved to Pennsylvania, then to Colorado,

562
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<v Speaker 6>and we've been in Arizona the last ten years. And

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<v Speaker 6>my question for each of you is, of those states Iowa, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Colorado,

564
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<v Speaker 6>or Arizona, which do you think is the squatchiest and why?

565
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<v Speaker 6>And the second question is which do you think is

566
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<v Speaker 6>the most under rated states for sasquatch and why? I

567
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<v Speaker 6>love finding Bigfoot. I enjoy the podcast, always fun discussion

568
00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:10.039
<v Speaker 6>and a decent amount of humor.

569
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<v Speaker 2>Thoroughly enjoy it. Well, I better let you go.

570
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<v Speaker 6>I gotta get back to watching Bobo in his music

571
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<v Speaker 6>video Keep it Squatchy, guys.

572
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<v Speaker 4>Oh man, Iowa to Ohio, to Pennsylvania, to Colorado to Arizona.

573
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<v Speaker 4>Man like, I don't know what you did to be

574
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<v Speaker 4>running from the law, but what congratulations? A Seriously, Well,

575
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<v Speaker 4>Iowa was a little less squatchy than others, I'll say that. Yeah,

576
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<v Speaker 4>so that's the least squatchy I think, But for sure,

577
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<v Speaker 4>I mean the squatchiest.

578
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

579
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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think most people would say, ohiob but

580
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<v Speaker 4>I think that the Ohio squatchiness is largely because there's

581
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<v Speaker 4>so many bigfooters there. It's just overrun with squatchers in

582
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<v Speaker 4>a lot of ways. So I'm going to go out

583
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<v Speaker 4>in a limb and and and give a shout out

584
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<v Speaker 4>to my wife's home state of Pennsylvania for the squatchiest

585
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<v Speaker 4>because I love her so much. Because I think there

586
00:27:01.440 --> 00:27:05.079
<v Speaker 4>are bigfooters in Pennsylvania, but the concentration is not there

587
00:27:05.240 --> 00:27:07.160
<v Speaker 4>like it is in Ohio. And Ohio has such a

588
00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:13.599
<v Speaker 4>historic legacy of bigfooters, starting with Don Keating and continuing

589
00:27:13.640 --> 00:27:16.240
<v Speaker 4>to this day with all the conferences and all that

590
00:27:16.279 --> 00:27:20.880
<v Speaker 4>sort of stuff. So socially speaking, Ohio is certainly the

591
00:27:20.920 --> 00:27:23.880
<v Speaker 4>squatchiest state. But I think that I'm going to have

592
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<v Speaker 4>to put my money on Pennsylvania because whatever bigfoots are

593
00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:31.319
<v Speaker 4>in Ohio, there are also just as many in Pennsylvania

594
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<v Speaker 4>because at Northwest Corner there is so so thick with

595
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<v Speaker 4>the Alleghany National Forest and all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my guess. Oh I was going to say, like,

597
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<v Speaker 2>if I had to pick one of those, I love

598
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<v Speaker 2>Colorado and some of my favorite stories come from there.

599
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<v Speaker 2>But like, if I got relocated to one of those,

600
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<v Speaker 2>I think I would choose Arizona because you could have

601
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<v Speaker 2>year round warmth and super squatchy places to go to

602
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<v Speaker 2>during the spring summer and fall. I know it gets

603
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<v Speaker 2>snowy in the in those higher elevations, but even still,

604
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<v Speaker 2>like in Colorado, you're not escaping Colorado would be my

605
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<v Speaker 2>second pick, like near the south San Juans maybe, but

606
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<v Speaker 2>it's cold in that state.

607
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

608
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<v Speaker 4>I would say Arizona's number two because Ohio and Pennsylvania

609
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<v Speaker 4>to me are almost like eastern Ohio, Western Pennsylvania. It

610
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<v Speaker 4>might as well be the same state.

611
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<v Speaker 5>It is. Yeah, it's just like, yeah, it's like northern California,

612
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<v Speaker 5>southern Oregon. You know, it's like same state. Yeah, but

613
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<v Speaker 5>you go to La like you know, Crescent City compared

614
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<v Speaker 5>to San Diego, it's a different.

615
00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:35.519
<v Speaker 4>State, but their same boundary exactly, like northern California, southern Oregon.

616
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<v Speaker 4>That's the state of Jefferson, my son. Yeah, and that's

617
00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:42.079
<v Speaker 4>it's the same flights basically. So there may be some

618
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:45.480
<v Speaker 4>taxation differences, but it's the same place. And I feel

619
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<v Speaker 4>the same about west western Pennsylvania and eastern Ohio.

620
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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so I think living in Arizona, as Eric

621
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<v Speaker 2>does now, I think that's the place to be man

622
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<v Speaker 2>because you can there's stuff to do year round, and

623
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<v Speaker 2>you're not going to freeze and be man Isuelle. Well,

624
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<v Speaker 2>but I love Colle. That's an amazing state. Lots of

625
00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:06.119
<v Speaker 2>cool stories, lots of great areas, especially that whole South

626
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:09.640
<v Speaker 2>San Juan's like just amazing. But Arizona's pretty rad.

627
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<v Speaker 5>Well.

628
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<v Speaker 4>That's why I would put Arizona as the answer to

629
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<v Speaker 4>his second half of the question, which is the most

630
00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:19.880
<v Speaker 4>underrated state? Yeah, because everybody thinks it's all Phoenix, you know,

631
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<v Speaker 4>it's all it's all desert and whatnot. It's not. It's

632
00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:27.440
<v Speaker 4>not at all. There's really high altitudes. There's ski resorts,

633
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:30.079
<v Speaker 4>you know, by flag Staff. There's a lot of stuff

634
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:32.359
<v Speaker 4>on the north rim of the Grand Canyon for example.

635
00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:36.079
<v Speaker 4>That means there are Sasquatches in the Grand Canyon. It's

636
00:29:36.119 --> 00:29:39.720
<v Speaker 4>just a really great state with a big variety of

637
00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:44.079
<v Speaker 4>habitat the Chusca Mountains all the way on the east side,

638
00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:47.720
<v Speaker 4>you know, the White River Apache Reservation. I've been there

639
00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:52.200
<v Speaker 4>before doing some Bigfoot stuff. It's just a fantastic varied

640
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:54.759
<v Speaker 4>habitat zone of squatchiness.

641
00:29:54.759 --> 00:29:54.920
<v Speaker 5>Man.

642
00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:57.680
<v Speaker 4>So I think Arizona is the answer to the underrated

643
00:29:57.720 --> 00:29:58.160
<v Speaker 4>side of that.

644
00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:01.119
<v Speaker 5>I don't have to go into maybe on that one.

645
00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:02.279
<v Speaker 5>Arizona's good too.

646
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:05.200
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I thought it was Iowa not on that list.

647
00:30:05.240 --> 00:30:07.039
<v Speaker 5>I don't think he man. I think he's just saying

648
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:08.880
<v Speaker 5>what's the most underrated period?

649
00:30:09.440 --> 00:30:11.759
<v Speaker 4>Oh I thought it was just that list. Okay, I

650
00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:13.559
<v Speaker 4>was just choosing out of that list there.

651
00:30:13.599 --> 00:30:16.480
<v Speaker 5>Sorry, on that list. Yeah, I guess Arizona would be

652
00:30:16.480 --> 00:30:18.880
<v Speaker 5>the most underrated, but I think overall the of all

653
00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:21.759
<v Speaker 5>the fifty states, the most underrated would be Indiana. Yeah.

654
00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:24.039
<v Speaker 4>I would agree with that too. Yeah, if we open

655
00:30:24.119 --> 00:30:28.759
<v Speaker 4>it up to all fifty. Yeah, stay tuned for more

656
00:30:28.839 --> 00:30:31.799
<v Speaker 4>Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo. We'll be right

657
00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:33.000
<v Speaker 4>back after these messages.

658
00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:43.319
<v Speaker 7>Thy Cliff and Bobo. This is James from Illinois. I'm

659
00:30:43.359 --> 00:30:46.240
<v Speaker 7>a big fan of the podcast. What are your thoughts

660
00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:50.599
<v Speaker 7>about reported Yetti connection with the diat loft pass in

661
00:30:50.680 --> 00:30:54.480
<v Speaker 7>the photo seventeen? I am a little sketchy on this

662
00:30:54.599 --> 00:30:57.480
<v Speaker 7>particular theory, but I just wanted to see what your

663
00:30:57.480 --> 00:30:58.279
<v Speaker 7>guys thoughts were.

664
00:30:58.640 --> 00:30:59.000
<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

665
00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:03.559
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's totally fake. We know the film crew that

666
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:04.759
<v Speaker 5>we know some of the guys that works on the

667
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:07.599
<v Speaker 5>crew personally that made it. They roped in, like doctor

668
00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:10.000
<v Speaker 5>Melgrim and the eyewitnesses. They were all legit and they

669
00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:11.920
<v Speaker 5>thought they were doing because it was Discovery. They thought

670
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:13.599
<v Speaker 5>it was like, oh, Discovery. They didn't realize it was

671
00:31:13.599 --> 00:31:16.799
<v Speaker 5>gonna like a Mermaid show. So yeah, it's a It

672
00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:19.160
<v Speaker 5>was a meteorological phenomena.

673
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:21.160
<v Speaker 4>It was an avalanche, is what it was.

674
00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:25.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but it's caused by a crazy like downburst of

675
00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:28.119
<v Speaker 5>winds that can go like two hundred and something miles

676
00:31:28.160 --> 00:31:31.079
<v Speaker 5>an hour. That caused these avalanches, like over areas that

677
00:31:31.119 --> 00:31:34.960
<v Speaker 5>shouldn't be steep enough to have an avalanche. Can you

678
00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:39.000
<v Speaker 5>still have avalanches because of this very rare wind phenomena.

679
00:31:39.480 --> 00:31:41.559
<v Speaker 5>That's what blew their tents down all that, that's what

680
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:45.640
<v Speaker 5>blew the tents so far. That's those guys up so bad. Yeah.

681
00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:47.759
<v Speaker 4>About a year and a half ago, doctor Meldrum came

682
00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:50.079
<v Speaker 4>to the North American Bigfoot Center and did a presentation.

683
00:31:50.599 --> 00:31:53.000
<v Speaker 4>And when Jeff comes to the comes to town and

684
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:56.240
<v Speaker 4>does something special for the museum members, we film it

685
00:31:56.680 --> 00:31:59.039
<v Speaker 4>and he also kind of breaks the mold a bit.

686
00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:02.599
<v Speaker 4>He does kind of a best of sort of presentation

687
00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:05.599
<v Speaker 4>where he bounces around from topic to topic to topic

688
00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:08.119
<v Speaker 4>and Matt, weren't you at were you at that one?

689
00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:11.640
<v Speaker 4>The one last year when he did the dal of

690
00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:12.200
<v Speaker 4>Pass thing.

691
00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:14.079
<v Speaker 2>I think he might have touched on it.

692
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:16.759
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, he did like a ten minute segment

693
00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:19.920
<v Speaker 4>on his involvement, and he commented that he was just

694
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:24.400
<v Speaker 4>basically interviewed about Yetti's, about just general YETI stuff, and

695
00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:27.720
<v Speaker 4>then they edited him up. They franken bit him. Is

696
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:30.839
<v Speaker 4>what that's franken Biting is a film technique that you

697
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:33.480
<v Speaker 4>can basically make an interviewer say almost anything that you

698
00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:36.039
<v Speaker 4>want them to by editing them in the right context

699
00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:38.279
<v Speaker 4>and cutting up their words and stuff. Yeah, so they

700
00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:40.519
<v Speaker 4>basically edited him to make it look like he was

701
00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:45.119
<v Speaker 4>supporting the idea that YETI was responsible, And of course

702
00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:48.359
<v Speaker 4>there was a photograph involved. But I mean, as doctor

703
00:32:48.359 --> 00:32:50.519
<v Speaker 4>Meldrem pointed out in his presentation, you can see the

704
00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:52.880
<v Speaker 4>ski marks in the ground leading up to where the

705
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:55.640
<v Speaker 4>person was. You can even see signs of him wearing

706
00:32:55.640 --> 00:32:58.079
<v Speaker 4>a fanny pack or clothing or something like that, or

707
00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:00.359
<v Speaker 4>him or her I'm not sure what the person was,

708
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:03.519
<v Speaker 4>but yeah, it's it's fake. Basically, it's some sort of

709
00:33:03.519 --> 00:33:07.640
<v Speaker 4>bottom feeding production company trying to you know, shake the

710
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:10.279
<v Speaker 4>cage and run with some sort of idea about sasquatches

711
00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:13.279
<v Speaker 4>or Yeti's. In this case, that is just false it

712
00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:16.079
<v Speaker 4>is just false. It's unfortunate, but that's the state of

713
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:18.640
<v Speaker 4>television today. They don't care as long as you stayed

714
00:33:18.640 --> 00:33:21.559
<v Speaker 4>through the commercial break. And these producers in la is stuff.

715
00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:23.960
<v Speaker 4>They don't even think bigfoots or Yetti's are real at all.

716
00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:27.960
<v Speaker 4>So to them, it's just just another bake story, I think.

717
00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:30.160
<v Speaker 4>So that's my take on it, at least it's my opinion.

718
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:34.000
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, it is not yety related.

719
00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:35.119
<v Speaker 2>In any stretch of the imagination.

720
00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:38.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Melogium was bombed. They put him in there. He

721
00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:42.200
<v Speaker 5>was so chapped. He's like God linking me to this

722
00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:45.519
<v Speaker 5>bs and yeah, but you can look it up. There's

723
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:49.200
<v Speaker 5>it's a it's a really rare. It has to be

724
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:53.920
<v Speaker 5>extremely cold, and like Siberia those kind of like Siberia

725
00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:56.799
<v Speaker 5>is like the main place this happens, I guess, and

726
00:33:56.920 --> 00:34:00.559
<v Speaker 5>it's it's it's rare, but it just the burners drops

727
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:03.720
<v Speaker 5>like eight hundred or whatever, like that's the exaggeration, but

728
00:34:03.759 --> 00:34:07.799
<v Speaker 5>it drops way down and it just creates these intense

729
00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:12.239
<v Speaker 5>winds that blow that create blizzards on like it could

730
00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:14.760
<v Speaker 5>be like the slope of a wheelchair ramp and it

731
00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:18.239
<v Speaker 5>can actually get avalanches going because of it. It's so

732
00:34:18.559 --> 00:34:20.000
<v Speaker 5>such powerful wind.

733
00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:23.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there was an article just a few years ago.

734
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:27.079
<v Speaker 4>Some of you might be familiar with the Disney movie

735
00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:32.239
<v Speaker 4>called Frost. I think, oh, Frozen, Frozen, Frozen, there you go, Frozen.

736
00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:34.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm so sorry again I'm not familiar with it. But

737
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:40.840
<v Speaker 4>it was actually through the computer modeling that the animators

738
00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:46.920
<v Speaker 4>were using to simulate snow movement that they pretty much

739
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:51.039
<v Speaker 4>solidified that that was an avalanche. It was actually through

740
00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:53.800
<v Speaker 4>that movie that the scientists working on it, you know,

741
00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:58.159
<v Speaker 4>through whatever hydrodynamics or whatever the name of the science

742
00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:00.719
<v Speaker 4>would be, the studies the way snow the water moves.

743
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:04.119
<v Speaker 4>It was actually through the AI modeling or the physics

744
00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:07.039
<v Speaker 4>modeling for that movie that they came to that conclusion.

745
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:09.239
<v Speaker 4>And then there's a paper written on it and the

746
00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:10.920
<v Speaker 4>whole nine so you can read all about that. That's

747
00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:12.360
<v Speaker 4>out there on internet land somewhere.

748
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:16.559
<v Speaker 2>So you're telling the Yedti hypothesis proponents to let it go,

749
00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:17.320
<v Speaker 2>Let it go.

750
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:23.079
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, totally. So I was completely I mean the Yedti

751
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:24.679
<v Speaker 5>angle was fabricated for sure.

752
00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:27.559
<v Speaker 2>See what you guys don't know is that Emily has

753
00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:30.159
<v Speaker 2>a niece and a nephew. So I've had to see Frozen,

754
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:33.000
<v Speaker 2>and the big song from that movie is called let

755
00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:33.199
<v Speaker 2>It Go.

756
00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:35.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I see, I knew. I knew that had to

757
00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:38.480
<v Speaker 4>be a joke because I recognize that the hopeful tone

758
00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:41.840
<v Speaker 4>of your voice and the complete silence afterwards, and I'm

759
00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:44.079
<v Speaker 4>so familiar with that from telling my jokes.

760
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:46.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, I didn't want to sing the melody because I

761
00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:48.840
<v Speaker 2>don't want us to get a copyright strike just in case.

762
00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:52.079
<v Speaker 2>Good point. Yeah, I doubt they would do that. But

763
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:52.920
<v Speaker 2>the other.

764
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:55.880
<v Speaker 5>Thing I know about that movie and song was I

765
00:35:55.920 --> 00:35:59.360
<v Speaker 5>was downtown Arcade. It was like wintertime, was dark out,

766
00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:02.159
<v Speaker 5>and the but I see HMP heavy metal pat like

767
00:36:02.239 --> 00:36:05.159
<v Speaker 5>a block away, like it's down by the plaza. You know,

768
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:07.039
<v Speaker 5>it's like crowded, there's people all over the place, and

769
00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:12.480
<v Speaker 5>the goala yeah, yell yeah. Then he starts singing like

770
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:16.800
<v Speaker 5>his glam metal screechy voice style like yeah, and I

771
00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:19.280
<v Speaker 5>go and I'm like, what was that? He's all that's

772
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:22.199
<v Speaker 5>got it go? Full Frozen my favorite song lately.

773
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:27.280
<v Speaker 4>For as nearly as h MP is, there's a certain

774
00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:30.320
<v Speaker 4>there's a certain like soft, inner, innocent core to him,

775
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:30.639
<v Speaker 4>you know.

776
00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:35.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he he tries to show his sensitive side to girls,

777
00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:36.599
<v Speaker 5>and he tries to get him back to his apartment

778
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:40.119
<v Speaker 5>so he can show him his Disney collection of films.

779
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:44.639
<v Speaker 2>He has every one of them. That's metal. Yeah, but

780
00:36:44.719 --> 00:36:47.199
<v Speaker 2>that is a rebellious act, you know. It goes against

781
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:49.119
<v Speaker 2>the metal grain. So in a way like it is

782
00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:54.079
<v Speaker 2>super metal, it's like meta metal. Yeah, meta metal, heavy,

783
00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:55.800
<v Speaker 2>meta pat indeed.

784
00:36:56.199 --> 00:36:56.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

785
00:36:56.960 --> 00:36:58.840
<v Speaker 2>And I've also had to take many a trip to

786
00:36:59.119 --> 00:37:01.719
<v Speaker 2>Disney World with with Emily's family over the last year,

787
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:05.320
<v Speaker 2>so I've heard that song multiple times despite never having

788
00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:06.039
<v Speaker 2>seen the film.

789
00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:10.599
<v Speaker 5>I I went to Disneyland the little week your brother retired,

790
00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:12.840
<v Speaker 5>Cliff those two years ago, now a year and a half.

791
00:37:13.079 --> 00:37:15.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think you're the last person he signed in.

792
00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:18.880
<v Speaker 5>I was. Yeah, God, I never going back to Disneyland. Man,

793
00:37:18.880 --> 00:37:22.920
<v Speaker 5>that place. I just could stand it. Just the lines everywhere.

794
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:25.440
<v Speaker 5>It was so overprised and hot.

795
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:27.000
<v Speaker 2>And yeah it was crazy.

796
00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:28.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. I mean people were paying like I think a

797
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:31.360
<v Speaker 5>ticket was like one hundred and sixty bucks or something.

798
00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:32.960
<v Speaker 5>It was crazy.

799
00:37:33.480 --> 00:37:35.599
<v Speaker 2>This episode brought to you by Disney.

800
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:38.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, glowing reviews of everything Disney.

801
00:37:38.360 --> 00:37:43.679
<v Speaker 2>So so let's see what Sean's question is.

802
00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:48.199
<v Speaker 8>Hi there, this is Sean from the Unsquatchy of State

803
00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:51.400
<v Speaker 8>in the lower forty eight, which is Nevada. I'm a

804
00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:56.639
<v Speaker 8>longtime listener, first time caller, So my question is, eight

805
00:37:56.639 --> 00:37:59.400
<v Speaker 8>to thirteen percent of the population of the world has

806
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:03.239
<v Speaker 8>a midtartal break in their foot. Have you met anybody

807
00:38:03.239 --> 00:38:06.119
<v Speaker 8>with a mid tarsal break or cast as somebody with

808
00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:09.199
<v Speaker 8>a mid tarsal break. I think this would help better

809
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:13.119
<v Speaker 8>understand the sasquatch is foot. It's something that's more in

810
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:17.400
<v Speaker 8>common with larger people, and perhaps Bobo has a mid

811
00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:18.199
<v Speaker 8>tarsal break.

812
00:38:18.719 --> 00:38:20.159
<v Speaker 5>Thank you and keep it squatchy.

813
00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:24.320
<v Speaker 4>Well, have we met someone? Oh, statistically speaking, yes, I

814
00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:27.400
<v Speaker 4>think all of us have. I'll meet a thousand people

815
00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:29.599
<v Speaker 4>this coming weekend in Kentucky when I do that job.

816
00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:32.280
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, if eight to thirteen percent, I'll probably meet

817
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:34.599
<v Speaker 4>fifty or one hundred or more. But am I aware

818
00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:36.159
<v Speaker 4>of it? I don't know. Are they aware of it?

819
00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:37.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

820
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:38.760
<v Speaker 5>I've never heard the.

821
00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:42.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, it's true. And is it a true mid

822
00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:44.639
<v Speaker 4>tartal break, Yeah, sure it is. But I think that

823
00:38:44.679 --> 00:38:47.079
<v Speaker 4>the something to keep in mind here is that, yeah,

824
00:38:47.159 --> 00:38:48.719
<v Speaker 4>humans can definitely have fallen arches.

825
00:38:48.719 --> 00:38:49.519
<v Speaker 2>They can have.

826
00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:53.960
<v Speaker 4>It's a condition of the foot, right, But is their

827
00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:57.119
<v Speaker 4>foot as flexible as that of a Sasquatch.

828
00:38:57.239 --> 00:38:59.199
<v Speaker 2>I highly doubt it. I highly doubt it.

829
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:01.119
<v Speaker 4>You know, that'd be a good lesson for doctor Meldrum.

830
00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:03.480
<v Speaker 4>He and I are doing that conference in Kentucky, which

831
00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:07.119
<v Speaker 4>for Charlie Raymond this coming weekend, and I think we're

832
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:08.920
<v Speaker 4>actually sharing an airbnb, so I have a lot of

833
00:39:08.920 --> 00:39:11.639
<v Speaker 4>FaceTime with Jeff there, so I will ask him about that.

834
00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:15.960
<v Speaker 4>But I don't think that just because a human has

835
00:39:16.039 --> 00:39:19.360
<v Speaker 4>fallen arches or has some sort of midfoot flexibility that

836
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:22.719
<v Speaker 4>it will it'll equal that of the Sasquatch.

837
00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:26.440
<v Speaker 2>It's not the same feature because the technical definition is

838
00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:29.920
<v Speaker 2>just to break between two planes of action, and so

839
00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:33.400
<v Speaker 2>in the non human primates, it's a clear delineation from

840
00:39:33.480 --> 00:39:36.519
<v Speaker 2>the propulsive aspect of the foot and the grasping per

841
00:39:36.559 --> 00:39:39.199
<v Speaker 2>hinsile aspect of the foot, which is, you know, an

842
00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:43.039
<v Speaker 2>adaptation for oar boreal animals. But in humans, like if

843
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:46.760
<v Speaker 2>you were to read those studies that he's referencing, talking

844
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:49.840
<v Speaker 2>about like roughly eight percent of the human population, it's

845
00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:53.320
<v Speaker 2>associated with people with flat feet, you know, like Chlise said,

846
00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:58.079
<v Speaker 2>fallen urshes, hyper pronation, or people with a higher BMI

847
00:39:58.679 --> 00:40:02.079
<v Speaker 2>and so their feet flattened as the consequence of like

848
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:06.639
<v Speaker 2>excess weight. And so it's not like a flexibility between

849
00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:09.039
<v Speaker 2>two planes of action in the same way, like as

850
00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:12.760
<v Speaker 2>a foot that's evolved to flex in that way. It's

851
00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:16.519
<v Speaker 2>the same technical term being used to describe two different

852
00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:20.599
<v Speaker 2>biological phenomena, one of which is highly evolved, near of

853
00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:24.320
<v Speaker 2>which is like a pathology. Almost does that make sense?

854
00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:26.880
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, it makes great sense. I couldn't have said

855
00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:28.440
<v Speaker 4>it better. That's why we have you on the podcast,

856
00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:30.880
<v Speaker 4>because you say what we want to say better.

857
00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:34.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Tom proved, Yeah, because I've seen that. There was

858
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:38.159
<v Speaker 2>a paper floating around. It gets very often like posted

859
00:40:38.159 --> 00:40:40.519
<v Speaker 2>by skeptics as like, oh well, even if you find

860
00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:43.599
<v Speaker 2>a track in the forests that shows a quote unquote

861
00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:46.079
<v Speaker 2>vintarsal break, it could be this. It's like, now, this

862
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:49.559
<v Speaker 2>is These are very different features that a lot of

863
00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:52.159
<v Speaker 2>people think. You know, I won't go too deep into it.

864
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:54.800
<v Speaker 2>I'll post I think one of your NABC videos that's

865
00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:57.320
<v Speaker 2>on your YouTube channel covers this. But you know, there's

866
00:40:57.599 --> 00:41:00.880
<v Speaker 2>a big difference between that flexibilit in the foot that

867
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:05.199
<v Speaker 2>occurs along you two different planes of access and a

868
00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:09.559
<v Speaker 2>mid tarsal pressure ridge, which is an artifact. That's the

869
00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:13.320
<v Speaker 2>consequence of the interaction with such a foot and the ground,

870
00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:15.960
<v Speaker 2>or the interaction between such a foot in the ground.

871
00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:18.599
<v Speaker 2>But a lot of people see the mid tarsal pressure

872
00:41:18.679 --> 00:41:21.880
<v Speaker 2>ridge and think they're looking at a mid tarsal break.

873
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:23.960
<v Speaker 2>They think they're seeing a feature of the foot rather

874
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:27.280
<v Speaker 2>than like, no, that's the consequence of the interaction. The

875
00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:33.519
<v Speaker 2>foot doesn't have this bindy hill or gap in it

876
00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:37.280
<v Speaker 2>at all times. They're flat feet that just can interact

877
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:39.400
<v Speaker 2>in such a way that they leave that behind in

878
00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:43.119
<v Speaker 2>consequence of the movement. But I know there's multiple videos

879
00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:45.880
<v Speaker 2>of Meldrum lecturing on that point, and I think one

880
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:48.320
<v Speaker 2>of the videos that you have publicly available covers that

881
00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:51.079
<v Speaker 2>when you're doing a deep dive into the Patterson tracks,

882
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:52.039
<v Speaker 2>and maybe one of the other.

883
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:54.320
<v Speaker 4>I think it's a specific northwest cast.

884
00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:56.159
<v Speaker 2>That's what I was thinking. I just wanted to make sure.

885
00:41:56.199 --> 00:41:59.239
<v Speaker 2>I'll post the links to both just in case. There

886
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:03.079
<v Speaker 2>you go, And then here is the final voicemail.

887
00:42:03.840 --> 00:42:06.079
<v Speaker 9>Hi, Cliff and Bobo. My name is Matt and I'm

888
00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:09.159
<v Speaker 9>from Cleveland, Ohio. I was the twenty four year old

889
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:12.199
<v Speaker 9>I'm twenty five years old now, but I had sent

890
00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:16.159
<v Speaker 9>an audio message to you guys. Well, it was to

891
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:19.880
<v Speaker 9>Bobo about like which is scarier encountering a ghost or

892
00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:23.440
<v Speaker 9>encountering a sasquatch. So anyway, I decided to come back

893
00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:27.000
<v Speaker 9>with another question. My question for you guys is I

894
00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:30.360
<v Speaker 9>was listening to a cryptid podcast and they were talking about,

895
00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:33.960
<v Speaker 9>like the screams that the sasquatches make a woman being

896
00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:35.840
<v Speaker 9>murdered in the woods is what a lot of people

897
00:42:35.920 --> 00:42:39.559
<v Speaker 9>describe it as. And the guests on the podcast was

898
00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:42.039
<v Speaker 9>saying that maybe they do it as like a way

899
00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:44.000
<v Speaker 9>they try to lure you into the woods, kind of

900
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:46.719
<v Speaker 9>like a woman in trouble would cause you to go

901
00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:49.559
<v Speaker 9>out in the woods and see what's wrong. But I

902
00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:52.119
<v Speaker 9>wanted to hear your guys' opinion on why they scream

903
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:55.280
<v Speaker 9>like that and see if you guys know why they

904
00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:58.000
<v Speaker 9>do that or have any theories as to that. And

905
00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:00.800
<v Speaker 9>like I said before, keep a squashy all right. Well,

906
00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:03.480
<v Speaker 9>first thing I would say, Matt, thank you very much

907
00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:06.079
<v Speaker 9>for both your questions. I remember that ghost sasquatch question.

908
00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:07.679
<v Speaker 9>That's a great one, And as.

909
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:10.000
<v Speaker 4>Far as this one is concerned, first thing I'd like

910
00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:12.119
<v Speaker 4>to point out before we get into anything about the

911
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:15.159
<v Speaker 4>sasquatch thing is that there are other things in the

912
00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:18.960
<v Speaker 4>woods that sound just like a woman being murdered, and

913
00:43:19.159 --> 00:43:23.320
<v Speaker 4>those would be cats. Basically, mountain lions and bobcats both

914
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:26.920
<v Speaker 4>make that sound. I've heard it myself from my own property,

915
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:30.119
<v Speaker 4>and I'm sure Bobo and probably Matt also have heard it,

916
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:33.480
<v Speaker 4>you know as well, I'm guessing, but mountain lions and

917
00:43:33.880 --> 00:43:38.320
<v Speaker 4>bobcats sound just like a woman shrieking in the woods

918
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:41.280
<v Speaker 4>in pain and agony. So one of the things I

919
00:43:41.280 --> 00:43:43.840
<v Speaker 4>would recommend is that when you listen to other podcasts

920
00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:45.760
<v Speaker 4>and you listen and you hear or you listen to

921
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:49.159
<v Speaker 4>TV shows or any of these things about and I

922
00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:51.000
<v Speaker 4>had to be a sasquatch that sounds like a woman

923
00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:54.440
<v Speaker 4>being murdered. Remember that most people are not very familiar

924
00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:57.440
<v Speaker 4>with scary forest noises, and a lot of people jump

925
00:43:57.519 --> 00:44:00.199
<v Speaker 4>to the bigfoot conclusion even when it's not bigfoot. And

926
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:02.599
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what podcast this was, it doesn't really matter.

927
00:44:03.000 --> 00:44:05.800
<v Speaker 4>You know, anybody can be mistaken. But keep that in mind.

928
00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:10.000
<v Speaker 4>Number one, there's a lot of misidentifications. Maybe it wasn't

929
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:13.039
<v Speaker 4>a sasquatch at all, which puts the second part of

930
00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:15.400
<v Speaker 4>that question, like our sasquatch is doing with the intention

931
00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:18.719
<v Speaker 4>of luring you in the woods, keeping in mind that

932
00:44:18.760 --> 00:44:21.280
<v Speaker 4>it might very well be a mountain lion. Do you

933
00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:24.199
<v Speaker 4>think that's a reasonable question to ask about a mountain lion.

934
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:27.719
<v Speaker 4>Are mountain lions making that sound to lure you into

935
00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:31.119
<v Speaker 4>the woods. It actually makes more sense than sasquatches doing

936
00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:33.039
<v Speaker 4>that to lure you into the woods, because at least

937
00:44:33.079 --> 00:44:36.280
<v Speaker 4>a mountain lion would eat you, whereas sasquatches probably wouldn't

938
00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:37.599
<v Speaker 4>do that sort of thing. They don't seem to be

939
00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:40.559
<v Speaker 4>predatory on humans at all. But I don't think that

940
00:44:40.599 --> 00:44:45.559
<v Speaker 4>there's any intentionality of that sort of level with sasquatches.

941
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:49.559
<v Speaker 4>I don't think when they're screaming or yelling or whooping

942
00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:53.519
<v Speaker 4>or whooping or knocking or even you know, gibber jabbering

943
00:44:53.599 --> 00:44:58.480
<v Speaker 4>to each other or imitating human voices, that is necessarily

944
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:02.400
<v Speaker 4>it's to lure into the woods. I don't think that's

945
00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:05.800
<v Speaker 4>what's behind it at all. I would speculate that under

946
00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:08.920
<v Speaker 4>the best circumstances, well, most likely it's probably the sasquatch

947
00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:12.280
<v Speaker 4>just communicating to another sasquatch in the area something, whether

948
00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:13.599
<v Speaker 4>it's a knock or yell or anything.

949
00:45:13.679 --> 00:45:14.039
<v Speaker 5>Like that.

950
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:17.320
<v Speaker 4>The times I'm aware of when a witness has observed

951
00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:22.199
<v Speaker 4>a sasquatch scream or shriek is generally during an encounter,

952
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:25.519
<v Speaker 4>right before the sasquatch leaves the area. I would think

953
00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:29.559
<v Speaker 4>that most likely that's just a sasquatch shrieking letting the

954
00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:32.000
<v Speaker 4>other sasquatches in the neighborhood know that something is up,

955
00:45:32.039 --> 00:45:34.039
<v Speaker 4>and then leaving, because that's what we would want to do.

956
00:45:34.599 --> 00:45:40.239
<v Speaker 4>But the intentionality of implied in like you know, I'm

957
00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:42.440
<v Speaker 4>going to lure you into I don't think that's them

958
00:45:42.599 --> 00:45:44.679
<v Speaker 4>at all in any stretch of the imagination. I could

959
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:48.039
<v Speaker 4>be wrong, But what do you guys think, Matt and Bobo.

960
00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, if you've ever heard the vixen scream of a fox,

961
00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:55.159
<v Speaker 2>the sound that female foxes produced, they're very human like.

962
00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:58.000
<v Speaker 2>It's not quite like a person in pain or agony,

963
00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:00.559
<v Speaker 2>but it does sound like a very alarmed or fright human.

964
00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:04.239
<v Speaker 2>So there's other culprits that can make human like. The

965
00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:05.880
<v Speaker 2>first time I ever heard one of those, I thought

966
00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:09.280
<v Speaker 2>it was a kid, like a kid screaming. That was

967
00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:11.480
<v Speaker 2>a long time. I was real young in North Georgia

968
00:46:11.639 --> 00:46:14.679
<v Speaker 2>before I got into squatching or anything like that, but yeah,

969
00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:18.320
<v Speaker 2>the big cat sounds big and small bobcats and mountain lions.

970
00:46:18.360 --> 00:46:20.559
<v Speaker 2>You know, you can look those up on YouTube and

971
00:46:21.239 --> 00:46:24.480
<v Speaker 2>hear examples of that, and you'll understand why people say that.

972
00:46:24.519 --> 00:46:27.079
<v Speaker 2>Where I grew up, they described the sounds the same way,

973
00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:29.679
<v Speaker 2>but always attributed it to mountain lions, you know, which

974
00:46:29.719 --> 00:46:34.280
<v Speaker 2>were extirpated from the southern Appalachians. But when you're from there,

975
00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:36.079
<v Speaker 2>like everyone's like, oh yeah, they're still around. You can

976
00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:38.599
<v Speaker 2>hear them. I sound like a woman being murdered. And

977
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:41.960
<v Speaker 2>so at some point that got transmuted into sasquatches, where

978
00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:44.760
<v Speaker 2>it's like most people tell you whoops and knocks, but

979
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:48.440
<v Speaker 2>the big sasquatch calls that most people here are big, bellowing,

980
00:46:48.559 --> 00:46:52.679
<v Speaker 2>moaning house, very deep and lower and register. They don't

981
00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:54.199
<v Speaker 2>sound like a high pitched shriek.

982
00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:54.960
<v Speaker 5>They're that big.

983
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:58.559
<v Speaker 2>The sort of intro finding Bigfoot emulates, you know, Bobo

984
00:46:58.639 --> 00:47:01.119
<v Speaker 2>imitates that sound money maker does it sounds to sound

985
00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:03.960
<v Speaker 2>I make, and nobody would mistake that for a woman.

986
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:08.719
<v Speaker 5>I think that they've been the crying babies. They've they've

987
00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:11.960
<v Speaker 5>done it outside like women women's that are home alone,

988
00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:16.480
<v Speaker 5>like in the tree line, like trying to lure them

989
00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:19.599
<v Speaker 5>out like that. I've heard tons of stories. Now. Whether

990
00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:22.199
<v Speaker 5>that's what they're trying to do, I don't know, but

991
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:25.079
<v Speaker 5>people that have experienced it seemed pretty convinced that that

992
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:26.119
<v Speaker 5>was what was going on.

993
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:31.199
<v Speaker 4>Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and

994
00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:40.360
<v Speaker 4>Bobo will be right back after these messages. Well, you know,

995
00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:43.400
<v Speaker 4>it brings to mind that story that Derek Randalls tells

996
00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:46.159
<v Speaker 4>about Grover Krantz suggested to Derek that he take a

997
00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:48.800
<v Speaker 4>tape recorder into the woods and play baby noises, you know,

998
00:47:48.840 --> 00:47:51.199
<v Speaker 4>babies crying, and I think all of us here have

999
00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:54.719
<v Speaker 4>probably done that. It's very unnerving. I'm not going to

1000
00:47:54.760 --> 00:48:00.000
<v Speaker 4>do that again because it's there's something deeply genetically unpleased

1001
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:03.519
<v Speaker 4>about that to me at least, But yeah, Derek did it.

1002
00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:07.239
<v Speaker 4>He went solo backpacking in the Blue Mountains and played

1003
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:11.159
<v Speaker 4>that stuff at midnight and it worked. One came down,

1004
00:48:11.199 --> 00:48:13.119
<v Speaker 4>and he knows it was a sasquatch because not only

1005
00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:14.760
<v Speaker 4>did it come down like a train out of the

1006
00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:18.000
<v Speaker 4>woods and stand behind this big brush pile or whatever,

1007
00:48:18.280 --> 00:48:20.440
<v Speaker 4>but it left sixteen inch tracks there and he saw those.

1008
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:22.800
<v Speaker 4>The next morning. We got to get Derek on to

1009
00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:24.719
<v Speaker 4>tell that story. At some point he said he'd come on.

1010
00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:26.599
<v Speaker 4>By the way, I'm just having a hard time narrowing

1011
00:48:26.679 --> 00:48:28.920
<v Speaker 4>him down. But we will see about that. Maybe I'll

1012
00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:30.599
<v Speaker 4>get him on the next month or something. I'll start

1013
00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:33.639
<v Speaker 4>pestering him again. But still the sasquatch was drawn to

1014
00:48:33.760 --> 00:48:36.760
<v Speaker 4>the baby crying. Could it be that just baby sasquatches

1015
00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:40.440
<v Speaker 4>sound like peoples or baby people's you know, I don't know,

1016
00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:43.559
<v Speaker 4>and so maybe it's not luring them out. Maybe these

1017
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:47.519
<v Speaker 4>sounds that people are hearing are actually baby sasquatches, you know,

1018
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:50.360
<v Speaker 4>throwing a fit for its mother or father or or

1019
00:48:50.360 --> 00:48:52.480
<v Speaker 4>siblings or something like that. I know, there's a lot

1020
00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:53.480
<v Speaker 4>of speculation here.

1021
00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:56.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a good point. And just the fear of

1022
00:48:56.320 --> 00:49:00.159
<v Speaker 2>being lured is a common motif with you know, the

1023
00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:02.559
<v Speaker 2>the archetypal wild man stories, and you hear that in

1024
00:49:02.599 --> 00:49:05.599
<v Speaker 2>Apple Acta like don't follow, the sound of whistling in

1025
00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:08.119
<v Speaker 2>the woods, don't follow, you know, the sound of k

1026
00:49:08.119 --> 00:49:10.679
<v Speaker 2>docking in the woods, et cetera, et cetera. So that's

1027
00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:13.000
<v Speaker 2>a pretty common fear, I think, and I think you

1028
00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:15.920
<v Speaker 2>see variations of that manifested in things like King Kong,

1029
00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:19.360
<v Speaker 2>for example, like, well, yeah, it's one thing to get

1030
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:22.199
<v Speaker 2>eaten and your life ends in a flash. It's even worse,

1031
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:24.719
<v Speaker 2>like if it takes you and keeps you, you know

1032
00:49:24.760 --> 00:49:26.880
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. So that's a pretty ancient fear.

1033
00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:29.440
<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, look at Bobo when he was getting those

1034
00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:33.440
<v Speaker 4>calls from the police department and what in the Hillsborough

1035
00:49:33.519 --> 00:49:37.440
<v Speaker 4>or remember that we're not Hillsborough. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1036
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:40.039
<v Speaker 4>look at Bobo when he was getting those calls from

1037
00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:42.000
<v Speaker 4>the police department down in Sonoma. He thought it was

1038
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:42.440
<v Speaker 4>a trap.

1039
00:49:43.760 --> 00:49:45.800
<v Speaker 2>I drive people to that episode all the time. That's

1040
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:48.000
<v Speaker 2>one of my favorite Bobo stories of all time. And

1041
00:49:48.039 --> 00:49:50.320
<v Speaker 2>the fact that there's like news stories and pictures. What

1042
00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:52.039
<v Speaker 2>did you say, Bobo, You thought I thought they were

1043
00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:53.360
<v Speaker 2>trying to give you a free bass boat.

1044
00:49:54.079 --> 00:49:57.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's some sort of irs trap.

1045
00:49:58.159 --> 00:50:02.480
<v Speaker 2>You're not catching me. They wanted to give you an award.

1046
00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:06.559
<v Speaker 4>I'm not falling for that.

1047
00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:09.320
<v Speaker 2>I will have to repost that picture because it's a

1048
00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:10.000
<v Speaker 2>great picture.

1049
00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:12.800
<v Speaker 4>Oh it's great, it's great, And you know, it's that

1050
00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:16.440
<v Speaker 4>fear again. Boba was worried about being lured in and

1051
00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:18.679
<v Speaker 4>captured to never escape again.

1052
00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:26.639
<v Speaker 2>The eighth Wonder of the World. Well, that's it for

1053
00:50:26.679 --> 00:50:28.960
<v Speaker 2>the voicemails, and we do have some written ones here,

1054
00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:31.239
<v Speaker 2>and again, folks, I'm sorry to have to read these out.

1055
00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:33.360
<v Speaker 2>Usually i'd take them because they come in via email

1056
00:50:33.400 --> 00:50:35.360
<v Speaker 2>and have to format them a certain way so that

1057
00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:37.960
<v Speaker 2>they go into our chat interface here. So I'm just

1058
00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:39.480
<v Speaker 2>going to read a couple of these. This one I

1059
00:50:39.519 --> 00:50:41.400
<v Speaker 2>really like. I think this is a cool and good

1060
00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:44.639
<v Speaker 2>thought experiment. So this comes from Jack Smith, and Jack

1061
00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:47.000
<v Speaker 2>says love the podcast, and I look forward to having

1062
00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:49.320
<v Speaker 2>the new and available every week, and I really enjoy

1063
00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:52.360
<v Speaker 2>the bonus episodes. With all the new technology that's come

1064
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:55.679
<v Speaker 2>about recently in the paranormal field, it seems like advancements

1065
00:50:55.679 --> 00:50:57.920
<v Speaker 2>are being made with this in mind. If you could

1066
00:50:57.920 --> 00:51:01.599
<v Speaker 2>develop a new piece of technology for hunting sasquatch, what

1067
00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:05.239
<v Speaker 2>features would your clo bat one oh one contain? And

1068
00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:08.239
<v Speaker 2>why keep the great podcast coming and keep it squatchy.

1069
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:12.320
<v Speaker 4>I wonder if that question implies that there's progress being

1070
00:51:12.360 --> 00:51:16.119
<v Speaker 4>made in technology or progress being made in the paranormal field.

1071
00:51:16.679 --> 00:51:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think he means in technology, because you know,

1072
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:22.119
<v Speaker 2>people are always rolling out new things to try to

1073
00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:24.320
<v Speaker 2>document ephemeral phenomena.

1074
00:51:24.960 --> 00:51:26.760
<v Speaker 4>Okay, as long as this technology, I'll agree with that,

1075
00:51:26.760 --> 00:51:28.599
<v Speaker 4>because I'm not so sure any progress is being made

1076
00:51:28.599 --> 00:51:30.840
<v Speaker 4>in the paranormal stuff just seems like a bunch of

1077
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:33.639
<v Speaker 4>hooha to me. But as far as what I would

1078
00:51:33.719 --> 00:51:36.559
<v Speaker 4>want in a piece of technology, I think a real

1079
00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:39.199
<v Speaker 4>simple thing was like a game camera that is that's

1080
00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:41.880
<v Speaker 4>super super small, or maybe in a game camera that

1081
00:51:41.920 --> 00:51:46.039
<v Speaker 4>has some sort of fiber optic lens extension, maybe you

1082
00:51:46.199 --> 00:51:48.880
<v Speaker 4>bury the box or whatever that holds the batteries and

1083
00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:50.760
<v Speaker 4>the cart and all that stuff underground and you just

1084
00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:53.960
<v Speaker 4>run a wire up up the tree or in the

1085
00:51:53.960 --> 00:51:56.000
<v Speaker 4>motion sensor up I don't know, something like that, like

1086
00:51:56.039 --> 00:52:02.000
<v Speaker 4>some sort of a periscopic, fiber optic, small, easily hid

1087
00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:06.360
<v Speaker 4>low emf radiation sort of game camera I think would

1088
00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:09.360
<v Speaker 4>go a long ways and make those about twenty bucks.

1089
00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:13.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, especially if it could if it saw and responded

1090
00:52:13.559 --> 00:52:16.280
<v Speaker 2>to heat signatures, like if it was a thermal game camera,

1091
00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:18.559
<v Speaker 2>and if instead of mounting it to a tree, you

1092
00:52:18.599 --> 00:52:20.440
<v Speaker 2>could just drive it into the ground and it could

1093
00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:23.719
<v Speaker 2>spin three point sixty and respond to sound. So if

1094
00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:26.280
<v Speaker 2>it's looking one direction and a sound occurs behind it,

1095
00:52:26.280 --> 00:52:29.239
<v Speaker 2>it just goes and focuses that way, because you know

1096
00:52:29.280 --> 00:52:31.880
<v Speaker 2>there's there's pros and cons, Like I love being in

1097
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:34.159
<v Speaker 2>the field, but I can't be out there twenty four

1098
00:52:34.199 --> 00:52:36.360
<v Speaker 2>to seven, and a game camera can. And a game

1099
00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:38.519
<v Speaker 2>camera you know it's never gonna get tired or sleepy

1100
00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:41.480
<v Speaker 2>or hungry. But you know, a game camera can't look

1101
00:52:41.519 --> 00:52:43.639
<v Speaker 2>over its shoulder if there's a sound behind it, Like

1102
00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:45.679
<v Speaker 2>it's just a fixed point of view, you know, a

1103
00:52:45.719 --> 00:52:50.360
<v Speaker 2>fixed direction. I think if I was designing the Clobat,

1104
00:52:50.559 --> 00:52:53.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, ultimate field device, I would want a waterproof,

1105
00:52:54.400 --> 00:52:58.719
<v Speaker 2>like dual night vision thermal imaging handheld unit with like

1106
00:52:58.960 --> 00:53:01.280
<v Speaker 2>high powered microphone's mounted to the front of it, so

1107
00:53:01.320 --> 00:53:05.440
<v Speaker 2>it's like an all in one video thermal audio recorder

1108
00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:09.320
<v Speaker 2>that is also waterproof. And it should run on double

1109
00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:11.719
<v Speaker 2>a's or triple A lithium, so it doesn't have a

1110
00:53:11.760 --> 00:53:14.760
<v Speaker 2>proprietary battery that you have to keep pulling out and recharging.

1111
00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:16.960
<v Speaker 2>You can just swap batteries out in the field and

1112
00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:19.159
<v Speaker 2>it would record on SD cards, so you don't ever

1113
00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:21.400
<v Speaker 2>have to worry about a hard drive being full. And

1114
00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:23.840
<v Speaker 2>it could be like a squirt gun full of hydrocows.

1115
00:53:23.880 --> 00:53:25.920
<v Speaker 2>So if you go across the track and just put

1116
00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:27.920
<v Speaker 2>it at the ground and squirt plaster into it.

1117
00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:30.079
<v Speaker 5>What was the exact questioning input.

1118
00:53:31.079 --> 00:53:34.039
<v Speaker 2>If you could develop your own like piece of technology

1119
00:53:34.119 --> 00:53:37.440
<v Speaker 2>specifically for trying to document sasquatches, what would it be,

1120
00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:39.079
<v Speaker 2>what features would have? What would it be?

1121
00:53:40.519 --> 00:53:42.760
<v Speaker 5>I'd want like what we talked about before, like Builder

1122
00:53:42.800 --> 00:53:46.480
<v Speaker 5>Innis's van, like with the periscoping. Well, you know, one

1123
00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:50.840
<v Speaker 5>thing I learned about like the Archie D units the thermals,

1124
00:53:50.880 --> 00:53:52.880
<v Speaker 5>like the old thermals that it's like looks like Archie

1125
00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:55.360
<v Speaker 5>dts had that spins around like and you control with

1126
00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:58.519
<v Speaker 5>a joystick inside the vehicle. And when we were down

1127
00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:03.559
<v Speaker 5>in the red was the very first BFR expedition. I

1128
00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:06.400
<v Speaker 5>was that guy. He's from West Virginia. That the military

1129
00:54:06.400 --> 00:54:08.760
<v Speaker 5>guy that was in the trains. Remember that dude.

1130
00:54:09.119 --> 00:54:11.400
<v Speaker 4>I do remember that dude. I remember his name though. Yeah,

1131
00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:12.639
<v Speaker 4>he saw one in the Redwoods there.

1132
00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:15.719
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, stand right nextly when it happened. I didn't.

1133
00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:18.000
<v Speaker 5>I didn't actually see it, but I was. I was.

1134
00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:20.039
<v Speaker 5>I was looking at it was dark, I couldn't see

1135
00:54:20.039 --> 00:54:22.920
<v Speaker 5>what with the thermal had on there. But he he flipped,

1136
00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:26.559
<v Speaker 5>He's like, oh my god. He wasn't recording it unfortunately,

1137
00:54:26.559 --> 00:54:28.719
<v Speaker 5>because it was back when he had the separate DVR,

1138
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:31.320
<v Speaker 5>like a home DVR from like your house with your

1139
00:54:31.360 --> 00:54:34.480
<v Speaker 5>TV that he had one of those. And but when

1140
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:36.840
<v Speaker 5>it was walking, he was thurming it. We were sitting

1141
00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:38.840
<v Speaker 5>there talking like everything was fine, Like it didn't even

1142
00:54:39.360 --> 00:54:41.360
<v Speaker 5>wasn't phased by us at all being there talking because

1143
00:54:41.360 --> 00:54:43.920
<v Speaker 5>it was so dark. It was just you know, walk

1144
00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:47.119
<v Speaker 5>And then he hit the joystick to make the archidu

1145
00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:50.119
<v Speaker 5>like you know, it's like you know, it's a wound

1146
00:54:50.199 --> 00:54:54.000
<v Speaker 5>up spun cable that you know, spos soons it around

1147
00:54:54.719 --> 00:54:56.760
<v Speaker 5>so he can face you know, north southeast west of

1148
00:54:56.800 --> 00:54:58.960
<v Speaker 5>the camera from inside WITHOU getting out to adjust it.

1149
00:54:59.599 --> 00:55:02.639
<v Speaker 5>And when he hit that little little joystick to make

1150
00:55:02.679 --> 00:55:05.800
<v Speaker 5>the camera panel to the left, it goes in that sound.

1151
00:55:06.159 --> 00:55:09.159
<v Speaker 5>Its head snapped overlooked at us, and it didn't even

1152
00:55:09.159 --> 00:55:11.239
<v Speaker 5>break shrot. I just spun on its heel with like

1153
00:55:11.599 --> 00:55:15.840
<v Speaker 5>with no like interruption in motion and walked directly back

1154
00:55:15.880 --> 00:55:18.079
<v Speaker 5>where it came from, like just walked a little faster

1155
00:55:18.480 --> 00:55:20.679
<v Speaker 5>and looked back over at us a couple of times.

1156
00:55:21.039 --> 00:55:23.440
<v Speaker 5>So I would do I would maybe want well like

1157
00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:28.559
<v Speaker 5>full three D coverage, like three sixty coverage from like

1158
00:55:28.599 --> 00:55:31.639
<v Speaker 5>the periscope, like maybe have like multiple little camp uh

1159
00:55:32.360 --> 00:55:35.280
<v Speaker 5>whatever like lipstick cameras whatever up there going around and

1160
00:55:35.360 --> 00:55:38.840
<v Speaker 5>maybe then have one and it had to be one

1161
00:55:38.840 --> 00:55:42.280
<v Speaker 5>of those new those killer like military style where it's

1162
00:55:43.480 --> 00:55:47.920
<v Speaker 5>night vision. It's like infrared thermal and that color that

1163
00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:51.880
<v Speaker 5>color flipping lens. Thing like one hundred and eighty grand

1164
00:55:51.960 --> 00:55:56.000
<v Speaker 5>or something from the military pays for him. But it's incredible.

1165
00:55:56.039 --> 00:55:58.119
<v Speaker 5>You can you can see everything out in the woods

1166
00:55:58.159 --> 00:56:01.159
<v Speaker 5>and it looks like daylight. I want one of those

1167
00:56:01.320 --> 00:56:03.639
<v Speaker 5>on top that I could that I could, like, you know,

1168
00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:07.039
<v Speaker 5>maybe have it on a like extend up a little

1169
00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:09.239
<v Speaker 5>higher above the ones that are all fixed positions. I

1170
00:56:09.360 --> 00:56:12.280
<v Speaker 5>want fixed position camera coming to three sixty degree like

1171
00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:16.280
<v Speaker 5>that that i'd have on this van or whatever. Have

1172
00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:20.239
<v Speaker 5>parabolic dishes pointing like you know, have like four of

1173
00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:23.679
<v Speaker 5>them out there, like pointing in all different directions. Just

1174
00:56:23.679 --> 00:56:27.039
<v Speaker 5>just as much three sixty covers as possible, and something

1175
00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:29.639
<v Speaker 5>that you can hide inside and just sit inside of

1176
00:56:29.880 --> 00:56:34.280
<v Speaker 5>the curtains drawn and you know, monitor all your stuff

1177
00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:34.840
<v Speaker 5>from there.

1178
00:56:35.719 --> 00:56:38.199
<v Speaker 2>I think we're thinking too small here, I really do.

1179
00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:39.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think that.

1180
00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:43.199
<v Speaker 4>I think what we need is a fleet of microdrones

1181
00:56:44.159 --> 00:56:46.400
<v Speaker 4>powered by cold fusion or something like that, so you

1182
00:56:46.519 --> 00:56:49.639
<v Speaker 4>never have to refuel them piloted by AI, so they

1183
00:56:49.679 --> 00:56:53.800
<v Speaker 4>work together and coordinate with daylight night vision on them

1184
00:56:54.079 --> 00:56:58.440
<v Speaker 4>patrolling an area before us several miles on a twenty

1185
00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:02.239
<v Speaker 4>four hour a day basis, and when they get a

1186
00:57:02.239 --> 00:57:04.239
<v Speaker 4>heat signature in and have an eight and you know,

1187
00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:07.760
<v Speaker 4>just like a rob is doing out out there with

1188
00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:10.960
<v Speaker 4>his drones, developed some sort of computer script to identify

1189
00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:13.920
<v Speaker 4>animals by their signature, by their looks. And this technology

1190
00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:17.239
<v Speaker 4>already exists. There's companies that do this and anything human

1191
00:57:17.480 --> 00:57:21.559
<v Speaker 4>like at all, they follow and film and then that

1192
00:57:21.679 --> 00:57:25.599
<v Speaker 4>is beamed back to a headquarters, so to speak, and

1193
00:57:25.639 --> 00:57:26.719
<v Speaker 4>recorded constantly.

1194
00:57:27.199 --> 00:57:29.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'll do you one better. So then when it

1195
00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:32.880
<v Speaker 2>finds the sasquatch, you know how your phone blasts an

1196
00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:35.840
<v Speaker 2>IR light to do your face scan for face recognition,

1197
00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:40.039
<v Speaker 2>you could have the drones swarm that thing three sixty

1198
00:57:40.199 --> 00:57:42.639
<v Speaker 2>and scan it as it's moving, and from which you

1199
00:57:42.639 --> 00:57:45.719
<v Speaker 2>could render a highly detailed three D model of it

1200
00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:48.440
<v Speaker 2>moving and say this is what. So not only would

1201
00:57:48.480 --> 00:57:51.239
<v Speaker 2>you film it optically and thermally, but you'd also have

1202
00:57:51.400 --> 00:57:54.679
<v Speaker 2>like a three D scan frame by frame of it

1203
00:57:54.719 --> 00:57:58.039
<v Speaker 2>as it's walking, so you could study the biomechanics in

1204
00:57:58.079 --> 00:58:01.239
<v Speaker 2>a three D model from any angle. So once like

1205
00:58:01.280 --> 00:58:03.719
<v Speaker 2>a drone or two hits it, like all hundred or

1206
00:58:03.719 --> 00:58:06.280
<v Speaker 2>five hundred of them, just swarm, make a big or

1207
00:58:06.519 --> 00:58:09.559
<v Speaker 2>three sixty around it. Just scanning, scanning, scanning, following it

1208
00:58:09.599 --> 00:58:12.360
<v Speaker 2>as it's you know, running away and probably swatting at

1209
00:58:12.360 --> 00:58:13.159
<v Speaker 2>them like flies.

1210
00:58:15.360 --> 00:58:17.639
<v Speaker 4>There you go, all right, so get on that.

1211
00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:22.000
<v Speaker 2>And I found the perfect question to end on going

1212
00:58:22.039 --> 00:58:24.559
<v Speaker 2>through our question submissions, this one's pretty good. I know

1213
00:58:24.599 --> 00:58:26.719
<v Speaker 2>this person's a member of ours, but he sent it

1214
00:58:26.719 --> 00:58:28.719
<v Speaker 2>to the email, so I'm assuming this is for the

1215
00:58:28.760 --> 00:58:31.719
<v Speaker 2>main show. But this one's too good to not include.

1216
00:58:31.760 --> 00:58:35.519
<v Speaker 2>So it's from our good Man woodbooger James, and he says,

1217
00:58:35.559 --> 00:58:38.039
<v Speaker 2>I've got a question for Bobo. You're a roady for

1218
00:58:38.079 --> 00:58:40.639
<v Speaker 2>the crew on the Girls, Girls, Girls Tour. It's just

1219
00:58:40.719 --> 00:58:43.760
<v Speaker 2>thirty minutes till the boys perform. You discover that Vince

1220
00:58:43.800 --> 00:58:46.320
<v Speaker 2>has a dry throat and needs more lemon and honeywater.

1221
00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:49.360
<v Speaker 2>But NICKI just ran out of Aquinet and his luscious

1222
00:58:49.400 --> 00:58:52.239
<v Speaker 2>locks are starting to sag. You only have enough time

1223
00:58:52.280 --> 00:58:56.199
<v Speaker 2>to help one of them. Who do you choose? No question, Nicki,

1224
00:58:56.920 --> 00:58:58.800
<v Speaker 2>the hair is more important than the lead vocal.

1225
00:58:59.480 --> 00:59:03.400
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, there's a lot of singers. There's not many

1226
00:59:03.400 --> 00:59:07.320
<v Speaker 5>guys with freaking Nikki six or Tommy Lee Hare. That's true.

1227
00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:09.920
<v Speaker 2>And it's not like Vince is like the greatest singer

1228
00:59:09.960 --> 00:59:11.519
<v Speaker 2>of all time anyway.

1229
00:59:11.800 --> 00:59:14.719
<v Speaker 5>Right exactly, Like he's always kind of been bad.

1230
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:18.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it ain't like he's Freddie Mercury or Steve Perrier

1231
00:59:18.119 --> 00:59:21.000
<v Speaker 2>aty those dudes. You know, he'll be all right.

1232
00:59:21.559 --> 00:59:23.639
<v Speaker 5>He came to Humble like ten years ago, like when

1233
00:59:23.679 --> 00:59:25.840
<v Speaker 5>the show is like really popular and popping, and he

1234
00:59:25.840 --> 00:59:28.360
<v Speaker 5>played up at the Indian Casino up here in Trinidad.

1235
00:59:28.880 --> 00:59:30.599
<v Speaker 5>The try does want me to come up there? You're like,

1236
00:59:30.800 --> 00:59:33.159
<v Speaker 5>you know, and they're like, come up, you know, we

1237
00:59:33.159 --> 00:59:34.840
<v Speaker 5>want to And I said, hey, you know what I

1238
00:59:35.119 --> 00:59:38.559
<v Speaker 5>could Vince Neil show is coming and it sold out,

1239
00:59:38.679 --> 00:59:40.440
<v Speaker 5>you know, could you get me a couple of passes?

1240
00:59:40.440 --> 00:59:42.519
<v Speaker 5>And they so they gave me, like me plus three

1241
00:59:43.519 --> 00:59:46.280
<v Speaker 5>and palell and I went up there and my buddy

1242
00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:50.559
<v Speaker 5>drove picked up had like a limo service up here,

1243
00:59:50.920 --> 00:59:52.960
<v Speaker 5>and he picked up Vince Neil at the airport and

1244
00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:55.159
<v Speaker 5>drove him to the casino, which is only like seven

1245
00:59:55.159 --> 00:59:57.760
<v Speaker 5>minute drive or six minute drive or something, but he

1246
00:59:57.880 --> 01:00:00.920
<v Speaker 5>had to pull over lit him puke twice, just sweat

1247
01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:03.800
<v Speaker 5>pouring out everywhere, and he couldn't sing very good and

1248
01:00:04.239 --> 01:00:06.840
<v Speaker 5>his voice went out, and it was pretty awesome.

1249
01:00:07.679 --> 01:00:10.000
<v Speaker 4>Those guys live hard man or lived hard. I don't

1250
01:00:10.000 --> 01:00:11.679
<v Speaker 4>know if they're still doing that or not. Probably not.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't do that for too long. This episode brought

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<v Speaker 2>to you by Vince Neil.

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<v Speaker 5>You think they're a jogging and stuff like that, I'm pretty.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure cleaned up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 5>Huh. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was a good question for Booger James,

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<v Speaker 2>so uh, because it's a it's a good thought experiment,

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<v Speaker 2>a good scenario. He painted a picture. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like I was there and uh and now we

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<v Speaker 2>know it's not a mystery. Who Bobo would help?

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks boog Yeah, good question. If you got I'd get

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<v Speaker 5>him an hot when I was I'd give him an

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<v Speaker 5>h ot and uh and then hair spray.

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<v Speaker 2>You might have to remind the listeners what the hot

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<v Speaker 2>is holl oil treatment.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't know what that was when I when I

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<v Speaker 4>was first exposed to Bobo on the road.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that a regular occurrence on the road?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>We had to go find him and we had like

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<v Speaker 4>we're the hell you're gonna get an hot on like

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<v Speaker 4>you know, hot oil treatment and Prince of Wales Island

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<v Speaker 4>or somewhere. You know, the answer is maybe not Prince

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<v Speaker 4>of Wales's Island, but I think more times than not,

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<v Speaker 4>the answer was Walmart. I remember going to Walmart with

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<v Speaker 4>you in North Carolina, I think it was or Georgia,

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<v Speaker 4>one of those two places the very beginning of the

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<v Speaker 4>show because you hadn't need an hot and I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>know what that was. If I went along with you

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<v Speaker 4>because I needed to go shopping, and uh, we went

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<v Speaker 4>to Walmart.

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<v Speaker 2>You got your hair done.

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<v Speaker 5>Dude, that was the best Walmart. Like we were scoring

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01:01:29.719 --> 01:01:32.480
<v Speaker 5>like those Walmarts. Like when I found out they had

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<v Speaker 5>hots in the Walmart, you go in there and get

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<v Speaker 5>your hair done. It was so bitch and.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know these happened at Walmarts. That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's our fan base at Walmart.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, did you get any free hots? Anybody recognize you

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<v Speaker 2>in the chair?

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<v Speaker 5>They gave you like all free like whatever, like free shave.

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<v Speaker 5>Well that was a different spot, actually that was I

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01:01:57.000 --> 01:01:58.920
<v Speaker 5>got a I got a free haircut with like the

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01:01:59.039 --> 01:02:01.559
<v Speaker 5>straight edge razor clean up around the size. When I

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<v Speaker 5>was in at the first Nebraska Bigfoot Conference. That guy

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<v Speaker 5>hooked me up.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually it was a woman, but it was like a

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<v Speaker 5>men's place, hair hair place, and yeah, she make that.

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<v Speaker 5>I love that straight edge. It was the old cowboy style,

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<v Speaker 5>just like drag that open blade along you and yeah

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<v Speaker 5>it was. It was awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>You are always like very clean shaven. I've never seen

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01:02:24.119 --> 01:02:27.400
<v Speaker 2>you like disheveled with like a throat beard. You're always

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<v Speaker 2>You're always very clean and like beach ready.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh dude, if I could grow a beard, I would,

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<v Speaker 5>but they whenever I don't shave. It's just it's just

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<v Speaker 5>so about. Like sometimes I'll rock like a little kind

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<v Speaker 5>of go to the starter kid or something, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>for a month or something, or like when they do

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<v Speaker 5>that November man bush thing whatever, you grow a mustache

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<v Speaker 5>man bush thing. Yeah, yeah, I've done. I've done some

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<v Speaker 5>pretty cheesy little mustaches.

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<v Speaker 2>Tried to blitted with the cops so they don't catch

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<v Speaker 2>you lower youd.

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<v Speaker 5>You know how it goes for it?

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<v Speaker 4>First here, well, you know, we got a members episode

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<v Speaker 4>to go do. Maybe we should go hop on there,

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<v Speaker 4>let's do it.

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<v Speaker 2>We got a couple of voicemails from members and a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of written questions too.

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<v Speaker 5>Well all right, Well that's it, folks. Those are monthly

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<v Speaker 5>listeners submitted submitted questions. We always enjoy those, so you

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<v Speaker 5>can leave a voicemail or writing a question with the

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<v Speaker 5>down on the links down below. We appreciate it. So

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<v Speaker 5>until next week, y'all, keep it squatchy.

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