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Speaker 1: Me and Coop's got a lot to talk about, like
Speaker 1: the SEC media days and the media poll came out,
Speaker 1: plus the all conference teams. We're also gonna dive into
Speaker 1: a few other topics like you know stuff, and we'll
Speaker 1: probably wrap things up with can the Sooners make a
Speaker 1: title run? As well as why the Bluetobe ratio says
Speaker 1: we can't cope? Happy Sunday, my man?
Speaker 2: How you doing doing good? Doing good?
Speaker 3: It's we've got to that spot. I think I said
Speaker 3: in our discord. It feels like August thirty, August thirtieth
Speaker 3: thirty first is like eleventy billion days away. It's just
Speaker 3: hot outside there's nothing just hot. It's like the back
Speaker 3: end of July. It's just hot and so but yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 3: I'm having a good Sunday.
Speaker 1: How about you?
Speaker 2: What was your Sunday? Feel like?
Speaker 1: Sunday's been going good? Man, just prepping content. I'm traveling
Speaker 1: this week, so you want to get some stuff out
Speaker 1: in a head before I am basically disappearing for a
Speaker 1: few days. But you know, a lot of great stuff
Speaker 1: came out of last week's as it's them media day.
Speaker 1: I'm still recovering sleep. It was a very, very very
Speaker 1: busy week. If you didn't check it out, Me and
Speaker 1: John did a lot of stuff over all lockdown sooner
Speaker 1: as I got to do some absurdly lucky interview from
Speaker 1: Richard Johnson from CBS Sports, Jordan Rogers, ESPN, Jim Naggy
Speaker 1: popped up and I mentioned it in the video of
Speaker 1: one of the videos. I did other recaps, but I
Speaker 1: kind of give some of y'all the story. They haven't
Speaker 1: got to check it out yet. I don't know how
Speaker 1: it happened, but like I somehow got lucky for him
Speaker 1: to pull up. So we're me and John's at the table,
Speaker 1: So our table's all locked on just podcasts in general.
Speaker 1: And it's Oklahoma Day and we're me and John's hanging
Speaker 1: out prepping and waiting for BV to go up there.
Speaker 1: We had finished our interview with Robert Spears Jennings and
Speaker 1: so we're like, all right, you know, get stuff together,
Speaker 1: go downstairs, listen to BV do his intro. Because we
Speaker 1: did the RSJ interview like an hour before they were
Speaker 1: actually going out there. Mike how shout out to him.
Speaker 1: The guy over at the sid over at ou shout us.
Speaker 1: He just said, yeah, we're gonna let you interview him.
Speaker 1: We'll do it early at the closer the holding room. Cool,
Speaker 1: got that done. Coop went back to the table, chilled,
Speaker 1: and we'd look up and Jim Naggy's walking around. I'm
Speaker 1: just like, I didn't realize he was in town, but
Speaker 1: it makes sense, you know, yeah, SEC media day, so
Speaker 1: you know, I was like, okay, he came with the
Speaker 1: team or whatnot. And so he's walking around. We're our
Speaker 1: table is right next to uh Jake Crane and the
Speaker 1: folks from Crane and Co. So we were sitting right
Speaker 1: next to them, and he's headed over to them to
Speaker 1: do an interview. As he knows them. And then so
Speaker 1: John gets up, shakes his hands and just introduce himself.
Speaker 1: L whatnot introduce us both. He's like, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: we just want to introduce ourselves. You know, we'll price
Speaker 1: you around, you know, if you have time, we'd love
Speaker 1: to talk with you. If not, no worries. And he's like,
Speaker 1: I'll come back around. And I'm like, sure you are. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: appreciate it though. Appreciate that, you know, the niceness, right,
Speaker 1: the nice gesture and everything. So he says this, and
Speaker 1: I I'm like, yeah, So you know, I sit around there.
Speaker 1: He he chit chats with a Thingstoia and uh and
Speaker 1: I think it was I think it was I think
Speaker 1: it was Eddie. I can't remember Eddie of Colton Sully somebody.
Speaker 1: A few people will talk to him. And so he,
Speaker 1: you know, he chit chats with him. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta go do a couple of hits and I'll
Speaker 1: come back over here. And again, in my mind, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you ain't coming back over here, all right, So I like,
Speaker 1: I sit around for a bit. That's not the wait.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, all right, bv's about to start. I'll
Speaker 1: give it ten minutes and no, I'll go down there.
Speaker 1: Because we knew BV was gonna go for a while.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a situation where we expected BV to not
Speaker 1: you know, BV. I think he was a little longer,
Speaker 1: uh exactly, and you know, I appreciate it. So I
Speaker 1: was like, all right, I'm gonna go upstairs. So I
Speaker 1: went downstairs, sat next to John. Got the last ten
Speaker 1: minutes of BV talk, plus the questions and stuff. So
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there listening and everything, and then he finishes.
Speaker 1: They disperse and he's like, we got about ten minutes
Speaker 1: before the players come into the pods and sit and
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, cool, I'm gonna go. I'll go upstairs,
Speaker 1: get some stuff and come back. Dog. I go up there,
Speaker 1: I sit, and one of the other guys out of
Speaker 1: the whole group of people, he says he's gonna come
Speaker 1: back to He's sitting right by me doing his interview.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, shoot, he came back. I set up
Speaker 1: real quick, just in case. As soon as he's done,
Speaker 1: he walks up to me and he goes to my
Speaker 1: seat and says, uh, that's where I sit. And I'm like, oh, yes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, is this where I sat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is yeah, this is where
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, that's where you sit. And I was
Speaker 1: just awkward as hell and I was like, I was
Speaker 1: not prepared for that. But it was cool to see that,
Speaker 1: you know, he actually came back and chopped it up
Speaker 1: with me and so interview was great. We'll talk about
Speaker 1: that in a minute, because that's all, of course a
Speaker 1: major topic there. But Coop, as you went through some
Speaker 1: of the stuff that you saw coming down, talk to
Speaker 1: me what did you what did you see?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: What jumped out to you? What quotes got your attention?
Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of quotes, you know, around
Speaker 3: asking R Mason, Robert Spears, Jennings, you know, kind of
Speaker 3: about their tour in season one, around different stadiums, a
Speaker 3: lot of LSU questions, you know, how was that? What?
Speaker 3: What are people when they expect to see when they
Speaker 3: go to Norman? And so, you know, I think that
Speaker 3: it was a really you know, really good set of
Speaker 3: questions around you know, just your experience and uh, you
Speaker 3: know how how you found that thing?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: In season one? You know what you're going to get
Speaker 3: when you go to Norman? Was was another great one
Speaker 3: because you know, it's a it's funny when you when
Speaker 3: you listen to our Mason you kept on talking about,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, a lot of a C d C and
Speaker 3: uh yeah, yeah, a lot of a lot, a lot
Speaker 3: of a lot of rock and roll music. And so
Speaker 3: it's you know, some of those quotes were pretty funny.
Speaker 3: You know, it seemed like the the MATERI hype his
Speaker 3: is starting to reach a national scale, and it's pretty
Speaker 3: crazy just you know, the amount of people it looked like.
Speaker 3: You know, there was the there was the arch manning
Speaker 3: going up to Paul find bomb. That was a pretty funny, uh,
Speaker 3: pretty funny exchange.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Paul you know, had a little fanboy on him and
Speaker 3: then uh then Matier you know, hops in and he's
Speaker 3: like acts like he's gonna jump right up on the
Speaker 3: set and then thought better of it or I don't
Speaker 3: know if people behind the camera were you know, going
Speaker 3: crazy like you know, don't do it, don't do it.
Speaker 3: But he you know, circled back around u uh, you know,
Speaker 3: find bomb and find bomb. You know, he had had
Speaker 3: a back and forth with him, you know, for a
Speaker 3: few seconds there. And so a lot of good you know,
Speaker 3: a lot of good people wanting to kind of learn
Speaker 3: a little bit more about Jeometerier. I like some of
Speaker 3: the questions uh, you know went towards our Mason, R.
Speaker 1: S J.
Speaker 3: It seems like they they did a really really good job,
Speaker 3: you know, not taking some some some bait questions, uh,
Speaker 3: you know on you know, slam in the offense from
Speaker 3: last year. Uh, there was questions you know about Jackson
Speaker 3: Arnold coming back and playing, and so the guys were
Speaker 3: you know, trained really really well. Uh, our Mason looked uh,
Speaker 3: you know, our Mason looked pretty stacked.
Speaker 2: But I mean R.
Speaker 3: S J, that dude just looks I mean like he
Speaker 3: was about to bust out the seams of you know,
Speaker 3: of his uh his tailored suit. And so yeah, there's
Speaker 3: a there's a lot of a lot of good stuff there.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: You know, b V seemed to talk about the the
Speaker 3: relationship with him and Jim Nagy you know, in a
Speaker 3: in a better uh light in front of I guess
Speaker 3: all of the world. You know, we we see a
Speaker 3: lot of that around here. But you know, really alleviated
Speaker 3: a couple of the you know, the the the wonders
Speaker 3: of you know, who's taken you know, marching order from
Speaker 3: who and more of you know, let him know, it's
Speaker 3: more of a collaboration. So, you know, it seemed pretty good.
Speaker 3: Didn't seem like there was there was much bulletin board material.
Speaker 3: The guys were you know, like I said, were trained
Speaker 3: up pretty well. Uh, but there's a little bit of
Speaker 3: a you know, cat that eight the Canary type of
Speaker 3: a situation. And in Matier seems like he wanted to
Speaker 3: h just wanted to really really say a lot more
Speaker 3: than he did. It seemed a lot of confidence. People
Speaker 3: just want to get in here and get get to going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so start off with BV. I liked how he opened,
Speaker 1: you know, I liked how he opened with talking about
Speaker 1: the snaps that we had from young players. Yeah that
Speaker 1: that's that's two years in a row. Cool, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're playing a lot of the younger players, a lot
Speaker 1: more snaps than we probably even anticipated. And I remember
Speaker 1: when it was Miguel Chaves had dropped the it was
Speaker 1: a he had dropped the stat that we had played
Speaker 1: the most like freshman, red shirt, freshman's and sophomores to
Speaker 1: in a season in twenty twenty three. So we played
Speaker 1: a lot of young players and in this year was
Speaker 1: very much similar to that, which you could tell you
Speaker 1: could tell a lot of the youth was there. You
Speaker 1: could tell a lot of youth in the way people
Speaker 1: were playing well at the same time. Yeah, pretty exciting
Speaker 1: to see that we're able to play young players and
Speaker 1: be comfortable with it. I mean, you know, we know
Speaker 1: how bad last year was, but the fact that you
Speaker 1: were able to do that with you know that, with
Speaker 1: a lot of young players and that defense be able
Speaker 1: to do that, it's a pretty darn good thing. And
Speaker 1: I did like that BV was you know, pretty complimentary
Speaker 1: of you know, Jackson and others. Like you said, the
Speaker 1: other players, it's something similar. I like the fact that
Speaker 1: they they handled it with a lot of grace. They
Speaker 1: didn't have to go out there and take shots. They
Speaker 1: felt no need to because you know why, Like, what
Speaker 1: what value do you bring?
Speaker 2: Yeah? An good about that?
Speaker 1: There's nothing good about being you know, being petty in
Speaker 1: that capacity. Just go out there, you know, do what
Speaker 1: you need to do, thank you know, thank him for
Speaker 1: his service, and continue to you know, move forward. But
Speaker 1: the young players cool. I think that was a That
Speaker 1: was probably the one thing to jumped out to me
Speaker 1: the most. Yeah, a lot, It's like that's a lot more.
Speaker 1: I didn't expect them any steps real talk.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, I've gone back here the past
Speaker 3: couple of weeks and rewatched a lot of the games
Speaker 3: and it was crazy just you know, it was watching
Speaker 3: the Alabama game yesterday and uh watched the watch the
Speaker 3: Texas and Alabama game yesterday and some of the pre
Speaker 3: you know, the stats towards the end of the year,
Speaker 3: OHU was in the top ten in yards per rush
Speaker 3: giving up you know, and obviously they had they had
Speaker 3: a boy and the hurt locker, Jalen Milroe and and
Speaker 3: then you know, but that defense just you know, continued
Speaker 3: to show, continue to show, continue to show, and and
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's it's it's crazy just to look
Speaker 3: at There was a one point where I think he
Speaker 3: was talking about the Alabama game and he looked out
Speaker 3: and there were nine freshmen on the field, and so
Speaker 3: you know, you look at that and you're just like
Speaker 3: woll I mean, that's that's only great experience. And if
Speaker 3: you can't, I mean, obviously nobody wants to go through
Speaker 3: a season like we just went through last year, with
Speaker 3: the injuries and with the the rotations, you know, nine
Speaker 3: different starting offensive linemen. I don't even know how many
Speaker 3: different combinations played at one point.
Speaker 1: And the thing was up to the thirteen games, you
Speaker 1: had some sort of a different configuration.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, and you know it's it's it's you know,
Speaker 3: it was sad. At one point, Brendan Thompson goes down
Speaker 3: and you know, even even the commentators were like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, not another not another wide receiver injury, Like
Speaker 3: how many of these things? I watched the old Miss
Speaker 3: game middle of the week, you know, pretty late, and
Speaker 3: it was crazy how they were talking about with h
Speaker 3: with their their I think it was wells was doubt
Speaker 3: and it was just nuts how they were like, you know,
Speaker 3: how much does it affect your team when you're you know,
Speaker 3: number one wide receiver goes down and you know, I
Speaker 3: know you fans were like, I mean, give us a break,
Speaker 3: you know, what about what about your top six? And
Speaker 3: you know there were no wide receivers in that game
Speaker 3: that you know, I mean, I guess are slected to
Speaker 3: start at this.
Speaker 2: Point this year?
Speaker 3: And so you know, it's it's that the young players
Speaker 3: playing last year. If you can't get the blowouts, you know,
Speaker 3: at least there's a silver lining in the fact that
Speaker 3: you had a lot of those guys, you know, going
Speaker 3: up against the best of the best in the SEC.
Speaker 3: And now there is a new year coming and you know,
Speaker 3: anything that's been done before this first snap of snap
Speaker 3: one is it's only going to count towards experience and
Speaker 3: because your record last year didn't mean anything, and that's
Speaker 3: why you play the game.
Speaker 1: Five new coaches Coop our Buckle, Kuziski, of course, the
Speaker 1: county coach Kevin Wilson, and then of course the two
Speaker 1: linebacker coaches and dry Ling as well as Goodwin. I
Speaker 1: have a question here as we stay here with Brent Vnables,
Speaker 1: because this question was asked a lot, and I actually
Speaker 1: I want to record something on this and talk about
Speaker 1: the shouts are guy Red Dirt sports in here. Red
Speaker 1: is in here. He has telled all of you to
Speaker 1: get in the water. Get in the water, because the
Speaker 1: dude is sold on this team. So go ahead and
Speaker 1: under and believe him when he says this. He's probably
Speaker 1: the most not only connected but also cautiously optimistic people
Speaker 1: that I know. He does not gas anything up, but
Speaker 1: he's been saying get in the water. I'm getting in
Speaker 1: the water, buddy, I'm in there. But question for you, Coop,
Speaker 1: this has been asked of be like crazy, and I'm
Speaker 1: trying to figure this out. It's everyone's asking him and
Speaker 1: players about him now calling the defense. He's gonna go
Speaker 1: do something that he didn't do before, which is be
Speaker 1: the quote unquote defensive coordinator while so they head coach.
Speaker 1: While at the same time this isn't the first time
Speaker 1: this has ever happened. I ask you this, Coop. First off,
Speaker 1: what side of the ball do you feel like is
Speaker 1: the most important side of the ball is the offense
Speaker 1: of the defense.
Speaker 3: I mean it's got to be the defense. Defense sets
Speaker 3: the tone your defense. If your defense is good, then
Speaker 3: you take away the game plan and the offense. And
Speaker 3: I mean with the complimentary football is always the right answer.
Speaker 3: But when your defense can go out and set the tone,
Speaker 3: you know, it gives the ball back the you know
Speaker 3: where your offense can go and execute its game plan.
Speaker 3: You know on your own side. So if you if
Speaker 3: you knock the opposing team's offense off their game plan
Speaker 3: and you get a chance to set up your offense
Speaker 3: for they're full, you know on sught of plans, then
Speaker 3: that's where you're going to run.
Speaker 1: And I could totally agree with you there. I feel
Speaker 1: like for myself, I think defense, as well as important,
Speaker 1: is a little bit more important. But I'm also but
Speaker 1: what we're seeing, based upon everyone's actions is offense is
Speaker 1: the most important side of the ball. And I say
Speaker 1: that because what you typically see is is that whenever
Speaker 1: someone gets hired, they're typically most schools, teams NFL on
Speaker 1: college are typically hiring more of the quote unquote offensive geniuses,
Speaker 1: the ones that are figuring out how to get past
Speaker 1: these defenses, which, granted, we're seeing that more and more.
Speaker 1: And I think it's funny that a lot of people
Speaker 1: are saying, oh, you know, you know, even though a
Speaker 1: lot of people are questioning BB calling the plays on
Speaker 1: defense when we have do that call the offensive plays
Speaker 1: all the time, Like I don't understand, Like it's say, oh,
Speaker 1: he must be failing because he now he needs to
Speaker 1: call his defense. No, he's really good at it. That's
Speaker 1: something that he's been very good at in his entire career.
Speaker 1: That's similar to why you have your offensive guys. You have,
Speaker 1: like most recently, Lane Kiffin has given up the play
Speaker 1: calling duties. I think it's like a year ago he did.
Speaker 1: But Clark Lee over at Vanderbilt ran his defense last year,
Speaker 1: but he just gave it up to one of his
Speaker 1: internal guys. I actually expect BV to do something similar.
Speaker 1: That's for another conversation. But billion Apier still runs the
Speaker 1: offenses at Florida. Josh Hipel calls the offense at Tennessee.
Speaker 1: Sark calls the offense at Texas, right, Jimbo Fisher when
Speaker 1: he was there at A and M. It's not a
Speaker 1: good example, but at the same time, he was calling
Speaker 1: the plays there, right. But it's fascinating how very common
Speaker 1: it is on the offensive side of the ball, and
Speaker 1: no one truly blinks an eye much, but when you
Speaker 1: hear about a defensive guy doing it, people get like nervous.
Speaker 1: So it makes me feel like even though teams hire
Speaker 1: more offensive dudes because they're looking for people to outdo
Speaker 1: a defense, they think defense is more important. It's something
Speaker 1: that requires someone to be fully dedicated to in order
Speaker 1: to be successful. I thought that's a fascinating concept. As
Speaker 1: everyone was asking BV about calling the defense this season, and.
Speaker 3: And I liked I liked his response too, because he said,
Speaker 3: you know, he went out there and it's I mean,
Speaker 3: it's no, it's no hidden secret that you know. Jim
Speaker 3: Knowles was his first choice, and then when that first
Speaker 3: choice went away, he was his second choice. And in
Speaker 3: watching some of the and god bless the folks who
Speaker 3: put all the games out on YouTube, because I kind
Speaker 3: of just happened into the eight Texas Tech game and
Speaker 3: guess who was calling the defense against that high flying,
Speaker 3: just disruptive team that just came off of a you know,
Speaker 3: a win versus Texas. It was bren Vinables. Bren Vinables
Speaker 3: was the defensive coordinator. They absolutely stifled that entire you know,
Speaker 3: sexist Tech offense that day, and that sets you up.
Speaker 3: And so I think that it is you know, we've
Speaker 3: seen the backside of it where your offense is really
Speaker 3: good and the defense is just an absolute sieve. And
Speaker 3: we've now seen what happens when your defense is good
Speaker 3: and your offense is just, you know, absolutely just stagnant
Speaker 3: as all can get out. You got to have the
Speaker 3: complimentary football.
Speaker 2: And with Brent.
Speaker 3: Vinables able to go out there and say, hey, listen,
Speaker 3: I was my second choice for the defense. And I
Speaker 3: don't think that this is going to be a long
Speaker 3: term solution. I bet that you know, Brent Vivenables will
Speaker 3: slowly start handing things over. But I think that with
Speaker 3: how many head coaches on the staff, or how many
Speaker 3: coaches on the staff have play calling and head coaching duties,
Speaker 3: now you've got so many guys across the board. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's what made Nick Saban, you know, great, as he
Speaker 3: would go out and he'd get these guys on these
Speaker 3: reclamation projects and bring him in. They knew how to
Speaker 3: run stuff, they knew what would happen, and you know,
Speaker 3: they would let you know, let Saban know, you know,
Speaker 3: what their thoughts were. And I mean that's the the
Speaker 3: reclamation project for Steve Sarkisian was getting to Alabama, going
Speaker 3: in there, getting trusted with that offense, calling a good
Speaker 3: offense to go with a good defense. So you have
Speaker 3: to have to if you have any type of if
Speaker 3: you have any type of you know, hope that you're
Speaker 3: going to go out and do the things that you
Speaker 3: know this team has, you know, plans for You got
Speaker 3: to have, you know, a respectable offense and a respectable defense.
Speaker 1: And it's crazy you say that. Going back to that
Speaker 1: eight game, they knocked off the number one team in
Speaker 1: the country, Texas at the time, knocked them off thirty five,
Speaker 1: thirty nine to thirty three, beat Oklahoma State, who was
Speaker 1: number nine in the country at the time, fifty six
Speaker 1: to twenty, and then lost to Oklahoma right afterwards. And
Speaker 1: the funny thing about that is is when you look
Speaker 1: at their entire breakdown on the season, they scored at
Speaker 1: minimum thirty five points in every single game except for
Speaker 1: against Oklahoma.
Speaker 3: Sept And And let's be honest, that was I want
Speaker 3: to say that it was. I'm check my math. You're
Speaker 3: thirty five to three at half time.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it was, it was.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: It was no, I'm sorry, you're you're closed, but not
Speaker 1: not correct. It was forty two to seven at the half.
Speaker 2: Okay for Texas Tech.
Speaker 1: Yes, they had seven points. They just quart a touchdown
Speaker 1: the second quarter.
Speaker 3: So the the goal, I mean, the point remains. I mean,
Speaker 3: you look at it.
Speaker 1: Was thirty seven the third in the second quarter though,
Speaker 1: it was almost blasting the tail and it came I'm
Speaker 1: looking at the box scoring now because I'm cracking up
Speaker 1: at it.
Speaker 3: But uh, but regardless, you know, you've got you've got
Speaker 3: all these guys calling these plays, you know, for their
Speaker 3: team on the offensive side, and you've got the uh
Speaker 3: you know, I get to the scarecrow offensive coordinator.
Speaker 2: Who is it by name?
Speaker 3: But I promise you it's you want to you want
Speaker 3: to have, you know, faith in one side of the ball.
Speaker 3: Then I you know, I want to say that like
Speaker 3: the defense, if you need a if you need to stop,
Speaker 3: and if you need out, and actually make that happen.
Speaker 3: And you know, I know that somebody's in here chirping.
Speaker 3: But you know, ben Arbuckle was a guy who was
Speaker 3: going somewhere big this season, and that was you know,
Speaker 3: there was talks in that, you know early that was
Speaker 3: one of the I you know, I don't know for
Speaker 3: sure if our Buckle was number one or number two,
Speaker 3: but he sure as hell wasn't number fifth option. And
Speaker 3: a lot of the reason why is you wanted to
Speaker 3: bring somebody who was going to be able to bring
Speaker 3: some continuation. And then you know, that's one of the
Speaker 3: things that John Matier talked about this weekend was you know,
Speaker 3: he didn't have to come in to learn a new
Speaker 3: offense like he was going to have to come in
Speaker 3: and learn a new offense if he went to a
Speaker 3: North Carolina or if he went somewhere else. But having
Speaker 3: that continuation with our buckle having that continuation, and I
Speaker 3: only even I hate trying to even say his name,
Speaker 3: the quarterback coach.
Speaker 2: You know, that's that's so.
Speaker 3: That is a you know, that is a big That
Speaker 3: is a big, big thing. Is you're going to want
Speaker 3: to go in and you know, install this offense, and
Speaker 3: if you've got multiple people who are out there able
Speaker 3: to do it. You know, I heard in the spring,
Speaker 3: you know a lot of the defense it was pretty
Speaker 3: frustrated because the offense was actually clicking. And so when
Speaker 3: your offense comes in, you know, that's only going to
Speaker 3: make the defense even better, because I mean the defense,
Speaker 3: I mean, you got to give it up to them
Speaker 3: last year for doing as well as they did going
Speaker 3: up against i mean, almost nothing all season long in practice,
Speaker 3: and so they they're their best. Their best I guess
Speaker 3: practice came on Saturdays. And so you've got you've got Drumetier,
Speaker 3: who is still.
Speaker 1: Before you get to that, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: It is yet to be seen. But again, and we'll
Speaker 1: talk about him and his comments in a second, but
Speaker 1: I think it's fascinating just the way everybody's talking about
Speaker 1: BV running the defense I think that that's It's just
Speaker 1: it makes me laugh because so many people do it.
Speaker 1: Do it on the other side of the ball, it's okay,
Speaker 1: And I guess because on offense you're controlling the pace
Speaker 1: of the game more. I'm guessing that's what everybody thinks.
Speaker 1: The timeouts need to be a little bit smarter and
Speaker 1: all of that. But as it was mentioned in the
Speaker 1: comments section, Kevin Wilson's most likely your offensive head coach
Speaker 1: since you can have analysts on the field now and
Speaker 1: actually let them participate. That was one of the rules
Speaker 1: that changed when all of the nil stuff went down.
Speaker 1: And so if Kevin Wilson's working with our buckle on
Speaker 1: making sure that the offense is flowing not only properly,
Speaker 1: but also make sure that timeouts are called properly and
Speaker 1: that focus is there so BV can do all the
Speaker 1: defense stuff while still being the CEO. Some coaches are
Speaker 1: heading back into that. Like I said, Clark Lee, he
Speaker 1: just recently promoted one of his defensive assistants up to
Speaker 1: DC now after he ran it last year, and you
Speaker 1: saw how good Vanderbilt was. That was a massive turnaround
Speaker 1: because not only was the offense solid, the defense was
Speaker 1: really solid a Israel as well, getting Diego Pavia and
Speaker 1: his coach and Tim Beck. He didn't have to he
Speaker 1: let Beck do his thing and now he can CEO
Speaker 1: it and really help with making sure everything's organized. So
Speaker 1: that was a smart move on his part, which I
Speaker 1: think Vanderbilt's gonna probably be a sleeper. We'll do a
Speaker 1: sec preview of who we think is gonna be where later,
Speaker 1: but let's talk some of the player comments or whatnot.
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Speaker 1: But cool so of course, materials the talk of the town.
Speaker 1: But I really liked the Robert Spears Jennings quote that
Speaker 1: we saw from him when they asked him about the schedule,
Speaker 1: and he said when he said this, I was a
Speaker 1: little shocked hearing it because it was at the pods
Speaker 1: or whatnot, and they asked him basically, first off, what
Speaker 1: they're doing, and he said this to me and John, Well,
Speaker 1: their focus on defense is being better communicating. Didn't feel
Speaker 1: like it was up to snuff last year, but that's
Speaker 1: their focus because a quiet defense is a dead defense.
Speaker 1: That was quote number one. I love that of them.
Speaker 1: So he said those, So this year we're emphasizing communication.
Speaker 1: But the second one though, they asked him about the
Speaker 1: toughness of the schedule, and he was like, I don't
Speaker 1: see it as tough. I see him as money games.
Speaker 1: Scouts are gonna be their agents are gonna be there,
Speaker 1: everybody's be watching those are the games is gonna be
Speaker 1: on TV. People will be paying attention to So this
Speaker 1: is an opportunity instead, So you look at this as
Speaker 1: more of an opportunity than anything. And when he said that,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh it dude gets it.
Speaker 1: And he's becoming one of the vocal leaders there. What
Speaker 1: you think about RSJ and his rounds?
Speaker 3: You know that's that that also, I'm glad you brought
Speaker 3: that up because you know, Robert Spears, you know, obviously
Speaker 3: a Tassa kid. That's you know, we gotta love the
Speaker 3: Tulsa Boys. But not only you know, has that not
Speaker 3: been really requested of him up to this point, Like
Speaker 3: you know, he's got to learn from Billy Bowman. Uh,
Speaker 3: he's got to learn from Danny, he got to learn
Speaker 3: from Ethan And there's different leadership styles you know, when
Speaker 3: we go back to the quarterbacks, you know, when you
Speaker 3: go from Baker to Kyler, that's two different leaderships. And
Speaker 3: then going right over to Hurtz, that's a different, you know,
Speaker 3: set of leadership. You know, you and a Ratler and
Speaker 3: that's completely different. Caleb Williams completely different.
Speaker 1: D G.
Speaker 2: It's like every.
Speaker 3: Single so he in his time, he's been able to
Speaker 3: see a lot of really really you know, a variety
Speaker 3: of leadership styles. And you got to think number one,
Speaker 3: I mean, his hard work, that's that's there, that's going
Speaker 3: to be there, and he has been an afterthought in
Speaker 3: a lot of people's in a lot of people's perception,
Speaker 3: you know, to this point, because the dude just goes
Speaker 3: out and make plays like that's just one of the
Speaker 3: things that he continues to do. You know, in watching
Speaker 3: some of these games over again, you know, there there's
Speaker 3: times to where you know, you see you see somebody
Speaker 3: slide out and then all of a sudden RSJ comes
Speaker 3: down and makes it play and you're like, I forget
Speaker 3: about him all the time. And so he's he's got
Speaker 3: the production there, he's got obviously the skill set is phenomenal,
Speaker 3: and when you have the defense that this team is
Speaker 3: going to have. It allows you just to play within yourself,
Speaker 3: do what you're going to do, and he's going to
Speaker 3: be able to you know, focus in on what he's doing,
Speaker 3: focusing on his play. But then also you know, get
Speaker 3: in and it's not just being loud and being vocal
Speaker 3: and you know, ra on everybody up. Sometimes it's picking
Speaker 3: somebody up. Sometimes it's grabbing somebody and saying, hey, don't
Speaker 3: you know let that let that one go, like we
Speaker 3: need you now here. And those are the things that
Speaker 3: people are going to be paying attention to. On your
Speaker 3: comments about him saying this schedule is just money games,
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you look at it as an opportunity
Speaker 3: and if the goal is gets the league, then you
Speaker 3: want to put up good film against good teams, and
Speaker 3: it's going to be you know, much better than you
Speaker 3: know throwing out you know, I saw a stat you
Speaker 3: know about a specific you know, X conference of ours
Speaker 3: and there were two national championships, both in like the nineties.
Speaker 3: I think that was the last. There's only two national
Speaker 3: championships in the history of that conference.
Speaker 2: Right now, good lower when when you know.
Speaker 3: As you know, when we left, I said it was
Speaker 3: the now the Bless Your Heart Conference, because I think
Speaker 3: that when you go into these games, you know, week
Speaker 3: in week out, you know, typically they'll pick out impact
Speaker 3: players two on this side of the ball, two on
Speaker 3: this side of the ball. It's more than that every
Speaker 3: single week, you know, when you have the schedule that
Speaker 3: we have, because you know you're looking at some of
Speaker 3: the top draft picks a week in, a week out,
Speaker 3: who are going to be in the NFL Draft of
Speaker 3: this coming April, are going to be coming from those games.
Speaker 3: You know, when you're lining up against a Texas, when
Speaker 3: you're lining up against an old Miss and LSU, those
Speaker 3: things are going to happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the best part is the him pointing
Speaker 1: out how they're an opportunity just made me say, you
Speaker 1: get it, now, you get it, get everything. So that's
Speaker 1: the plus. Moving on from there, then you into our
Speaker 1: Mason Thomas and really his the thing he said he
Speaker 1: needs to focus on is gonna be setting the edge,
Speaker 1: run stopping right. And I loved how he he pointed
Speaker 1: that out, getting his weight up, getting stronger, maintaining his
Speaker 1: speed and making sure that he's stopping the run. I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, you get it. You understand the things
Speaker 1: that you need to do to help with that. You
Speaker 1: finished with nine sacks last season, and that's pretty darn
Speaker 1: that's a lot. You know, six of those coming in
Speaker 1: SEC play, so you didn't you know stat pad and uh,
Speaker 1: you know in non con which a lot of teams
Speaker 1: you know and players do you got yours in actual
Speaker 1: SEC plays when you get the bulk of your stuff.
Speaker 1: So for him, that's pretty big. I actually liked that,
Speaker 1: and he talked of course, they both talked about Jeob Materion.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about him next. What you think about our Mason?
Speaker 1: Anything jump out to you for him?
Speaker 3: With him, you know, yeah, had the issues a free
Speaker 3: though he didn't remember the creator. Uh so hopefully hopefully
Speaker 3: he hooked that guy with some love at some point.
Speaker 3: But I'll say that when R. Mason's out there, it
Speaker 3: is it was just immediately just just relevant that the
Speaker 3: guy's just ready to get on the field like that.
Speaker 3: It just seems like that's all that he wants to
Speaker 3: do is to get out there and be on the field.
Speaker 2: And this guy takes it serious.
Speaker 3: And when you have people who take things serious and
Speaker 3: they're not just all about talk, they want to get
Speaker 3: out there and do stuff. Those are guys that you
Speaker 3: want to watch, because he could have said, yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: I I was, you know, in the top of the
Speaker 3: top of the sec and sacks, top of the nation
Speaker 3: in sacks. You know, he saw weakness in his game
Speaker 3: and he brought up the weakness. He did a little
Speaker 3: eight mile M and M style right there. Right it's
Speaker 3: you know, adding a few lbs. Want to be better
Speaker 3: at setting the run, you know, because he caused all
Speaker 3: kinds of havoc. And you know, I would say that
Speaker 3: last year didn't get in you know, an exceptional an
Speaker 3: exceptional amount of help from the other side. You know,
Speaker 3: the middle of the defense was really really good, but
Speaker 3: the edge part, you know, it was our mason and
Speaker 3: then a bunch of you know, happy helpers. And so
Speaker 3: I think that this year he's going to get a
Speaker 3: lot more one on ones. But you know, the thing
Speaker 3: that's going to get him higher in the league is
Speaker 3: how well do you stop the run? Because even though
Speaker 3: the running backs are you know, not super value like
Speaker 3: they used to be. And you know that's why nobody's
Speaker 3: getting too stoked about, you know, running back recruiting. You know,
Speaker 3: new running backs in the you know, to your to
Speaker 3: your NFL franchise anything like that. You you see that
Speaker 3: opportunity of you know, this defense is going to you know,
Speaker 3: with the complimentary offense, the defense is going to be
Speaker 3: putting teams in more of a spot. You know, that
Speaker 3: was the clear thing for the Alabama game. You know,
Speaker 3: a lot of our Mason's production is when it was
Speaker 3: a dead set, we know that they're passing the ball.
Speaker 3: Our Mason showed up all the time, and it wasn't
Speaker 3: always getting there. It was forcing pressure, forcing up into
Speaker 3: somebody else, you know, forcing somebody into a bad raid,
Speaker 3: a bad coverage. And you know, so I think think
Speaker 3: that that's good, you know, him wanting to point out
Speaker 3: the things that he needs to.
Speaker 2: Get better at.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm all for that because this year, you know,
Speaker 3: I think that there is going to be a lot
Speaker 3: more explosion on the other side too.
Speaker 1: And then they both talked about of course our guy
Speaker 1: John Mattier uh said he's funny, said that he does
Speaker 1: a really good job of leading, very vocal, but they
Speaker 1: all said that he's uh, he's funny. Both smiled whenever
Speaker 1: he was mentioned, which I thought was pretty funny. How'd
Speaker 1: you feel about my tears comments? You know, of course
Speaker 1: everyone's comparing the Baker, you know, and he says, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, he appreciated other high praise. He's focused on
Speaker 1: being him and and and competing. What do you think
Speaker 1: about that? Because I know Baker Mayfield has recently made
Speaker 1: some comments about him as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in Baker's football camp, was this bad? Was this weekend?
Speaker 3: But yeah, you know he got a little good fellas there.
Speaker 3: Remind me and Joe Peshi when he says, what do
Speaker 3: you mean funny? Uh, you know, it's like, hey, I'm
Speaker 3: just busting your balls, you know whatever. But when they
Speaker 3: kept on saying him, hey, kept you know, they kept
Speaker 3: on bringing up and you know, it seems like he
Speaker 3: wanted to go take that out. But if you guys
Speaker 3: haven't seen he was talking about on the plane, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, to the to the SEC media days. They
Speaker 3: did some and I shared it with you. They were
Speaker 3: doing some quick hitters with Jim nagging, you know, asking
Speaker 3: him a bunch of questions, you like the Mountain, what's
Speaker 3: your screen time?
Speaker 2: What's your favorite movie?
Speaker 3: And you know he is he he is a guy
Speaker 3: that it seems like off on the side, he's all
Speaker 3: about the team. He wants to be entertaining. He wants
Speaker 3: to put on a show, and that that does sound
Speaker 3: like a lot of you know, really great quarterbacks want
Speaker 3: to put on the show, want to you know, want
Speaker 3: to be uh you know, want the attention. And so
Speaker 3: you know, if if the production follows with that, this
Speaker 3: is going to be somebody that people are going to
Speaker 3: love as a fan and then everybody else is going
Speaker 3: to hate because you know, people are going to be
Speaker 3: drawn to him. You know, he has you know, he
Speaker 3: has production. He just you know, came off of a
Speaker 3: forty four touchdown campaign and so people that question of
Speaker 3: can it happen in the SEC? That's the question around
Speaker 3: him is can you do these things in the SEC?
Speaker 3: Can you bring that production here? And you know, everybody
Speaker 3: points towards cam Moore and him going down the a
Speaker 3: SEC and just lighting it up and really you know,
Speaker 3: being the driving factor behind that team. And so if
Speaker 3: that production follows, then he's going to be one of
Speaker 3: those polarizing figures in the SEC and across the country.
Speaker 1: Exactly. He's got the opportunity to do that. So all right,
Speaker 1: let's talk about the preseason all SEC voting before we
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Speaker 1: and we'll talk about that in a bit. But preseason
Speaker 1: All All SEC as well as where the media at
Speaker 1: Oklahoma set So first off Preseason All SEC listing, you
Speaker 1: got our Mason as well as jayde and I at
Speaker 1: the second team and then Ben Anderson third team. He's
Speaker 1: been like always raved about as the long snap or whatnot.
Speaker 1: But I thought it was interesting and this is what
Speaker 1: we actually expected that I was gonna get start to
Speaker 1: get more and more attention. And it appears at the
Speaker 1: media that was there at SEC media days, they're they're
Speaker 1: all very high. I know the ESPN guys when I
Speaker 1: was chatting with them about it, they're like, dog, they
Speaker 1: think y'all got the most explosive back. Y'all may have
Speaker 1: the best back in the SEC. We seed to see
Speaker 1: him see him healthy. You gotta see him healthy. If
Speaker 1: he's healthy, he's probably the best one. I was like,
Speaker 1: fair point, Yeah, what you think who do you think
Speaker 1: got snubbed.
Speaker 3: I mean altogether, you just go through here and when
Speaker 3: you're looking through the team and I've got up here
Speaker 3: on the other screen, you look through, you know, you
Speaker 3: look through the team and you got you got some
Speaker 3: you know, some crazy names in here. I think that
Speaker 3: it's going to be it's going to be down to record.
Speaker 3: You know, right now the Leonora sellers as the number one.
Speaker 3: I think that John Mattier a lot of people are
Speaker 3: in that thought of you know, hey, listen, we're going
Speaker 3: to say prove it before we do anything. And let's
Speaker 3: be honest. This preseason, all preseason, you know, this talk season.
Speaker 3: This is just the opportunity for them to talk. And
Speaker 3: you're gonna want to be in the postseason. And that's
Speaker 3: the that's the that's the teams that you're gonna want
Speaker 3: to be on. Plus you you also want to uh
Speaker 3: get the get the you know, get.
Speaker 2: The records right.
Speaker 3: So uh you know, off o, you you know, I'd
Speaker 3: like to see I think Kip Lewis, you know, Jaden Jackson,
Speaker 3: you know obviously coming in as you know, a freshman
Speaker 3: All American last year, you know, he's only going to
Speaker 3: be better. I is a is a guy who I
Speaker 3: thought you might see in there. And also you know,
Speaker 3: I know that the way that they do the defensive backs,
Speaker 3: it's kind of four guys. You know, there's there's a
Speaker 3: rotation safety uh safety, and then you know.
Speaker 1: Just you for the voting is you pick eight dudes
Speaker 1: on eight DB's period and it's all like a combination
Speaker 1: of same d line. It's you pick just defensive linemen.
Speaker 1: It's edges and d linemen together, and then the secondary
Speaker 1: is basically just all dbs so include safeties or whatnot.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's it's quirky the way it's done,
Speaker 1: but it's just all encompassing. You pick eight people and
Speaker 1: it's it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, happy for our Mason, you know
Speaker 3: as far as like what he can do, you know,
Speaker 3: but I but I do you know, I think that
Speaker 3: this is you know, we were talking about superhero movies
Speaker 3: earlier today, and a lot of superhero movies they need
Speaker 3: they need the cast members who are going to be
Speaker 3: the complimentary cast members to go along with some of
Speaker 3: these stars. And you know, there's a lot of talk
Speaker 3: around you know it's crazy because you know, at the
Speaker 3: one side of my mouth, I say, it's like the
Speaker 3: you know, preseason, you need some of the preseason recognition
Speaker 3: in order to you know, loft yourself up in some
Speaker 3: of the national awards, you know, conversations because a lot
Speaker 3: of time guys are going to go back and you
Speaker 3: know a lot of these people don't watch the games.
Speaker 3: They they watched the box scores and they see those portions.
Speaker 3: So if you're a stat stuffer, you're gonna get a
Speaker 3: lot more recognition than someone who makes effective.
Speaker 2: Plays, you know, play in and play out.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, Jade not let's let's let's let's
Speaker 3: dive into aught because you know, this is a guy
Speaker 3: who Jim Nagy uh you know, had eyeballs on before
Speaker 3: he even came to Oklahoma and that was a big
Speaker 3: get for him. Is because they needed, you know, we
Speaker 3: have needed a difference maker because I mean outside, I
Speaker 3: mean since Kennedy Brooks. You know, Eric Gray had himself
Speaker 3: one good year when he was the offense and that
Speaker 3: was it. But then you know, Kennedy Brooks was the
Speaker 3: last guy that you know, you just you know, really
Speaker 3: feel like he was going to you know, you knew
Speaker 3: what you were getting out of Kennedy Brooks. And so
Speaker 3: I think that you know, a lot of people were
Speaker 3: excited about Xavier Robinson and coming in the season, but
Speaker 3: if at can you know, be healthy, that's a guy
Speaker 3: who is you know, a first round you know, a
Speaker 3: first round, second round type of a running back.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: He's a guy who can do it all. He can block,
Speaker 3: he can you know, catch out of the backfield, and
Speaker 3: he can run the he can run the rocks. So
Speaker 3: you know, he is a guy that a lot of
Speaker 3: people are gonna have eyeballs on this season.
Speaker 1: He's one that's gonna be watched hardcore this year. He's
Speaker 1: won that a lot of people care about wanting to
Speaker 1: see what he turns into. Uh, just because of the
Speaker 1: promise you saw as a freshman and as a sophomore,
Speaker 1: I mean twenty you know, twenty one hundred yards or
Speaker 1: whatnot in those first two seasons, You're like, oh, he's
Speaker 1: gonna be another one of the power running backs. Remember,
Speaker 1: Calby produces some backs I mean from J. J. Arrington
Speaker 1: to Marshaan that like, we we're not gonna pretend like
Speaker 1: Kyl doesn't put backs out. That's that's that's what Kyle's
Speaker 1: known for doing. Find him California running backs and throw
Speaker 1: him on the field. They all seem to be really,
Speaker 1: really good. But yeah, I'm interested to see the health
Speaker 1: of or whatnot. Our Mason being second team that was expected.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of really good defensive linemen in the
Speaker 1: SEC this this season. I did. I was surprised about
Speaker 1: Robert Spears Jennings not getting looked at. He was one
Speaker 1: of the higher graded guys in the UH in the
Speaker 1: SEC last year as a safety, so I was actually
Speaker 1: thinking that if anybody was probably gonna get looked at,
Speaker 1: it was gonna be him. So that was really that
Speaker 1: was I'm gonna be honest, that was a pretty much
Speaker 1: shocker to me. I was like, oh, okay, that's what
Speaker 1: we're doing, all right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's going to be in a good rotation
Speaker 3: of safeties. You know, between him and Hardy, You've got Peyton, Bowen, Boganowski.
Speaker 3: There's gonna be a lot of different guys out there
Speaker 3: who are going to be able to do it. And
Speaker 3: so you know you don't have a guy, you know.
Speaker 3: I think that Billy Bowman was another one. You know,
Speaker 3: he he never came off the field last year and
Speaker 3: you could see it sometimes, you know, he would get
Speaker 3: tired and he would, you know, have one of those moments.
Speaker 3: But you know, I think that that's gonna be one
Speaker 3: thing that when you have a you know, you know
Speaker 3: you're four deep and you've even got you know, a
Speaker 3: lot of faith in some of the young pups. There's
Speaker 3: a lot of safeties, you know in this conference who
Speaker 3: who are going to be put to the test. I
Speaker 3: bet that there's going to be a good amount of
Speaker 3: running the run, the rushing yards by you know, I
Speaker 3: guess running backs in general over the past couple of
Speaker 3: years in the SEC has been relatively low because there's
Speaker 3: been a little bit more high flying attacks and so
Speaker 3: I think with so many new quarterbacks coming in, that's
Speaker 3: something that you're gonna see and so some of the
Speaker 3: safety numbers may be elevated a little bit more. And
Speaker 3: also when that comes is what happens is you've got
Speaker 3: to be able to to pivot pretty quick when it's
Speaker 3: play action. So, you know, the best safeties in this
Speaker 3: league are going to be the ones that are going
Speaker 3: to be able to, you know, be a supporter in
Speaker 3: the running game, but then also get into coverage and
Speaker 3: you know, not give up any of these big bombs
Speaker 3: down the field.
Speaker 1: It's a fair point. Don't know what y'all think. Hop
Speaker 1: in the comments, Definitely give us your thoughts, who you
Speaker 1: think got snubbed, who you think probably should have gotten
Speaker 1: a much bigger look. Definitely want to hear from y'all
Speaker 1: on that. Yeah, I know y'all arguing with that individual.
Speaker 1: I thank him for pulling up because all he does
Speaker 1: is make everybody engage with us. So just you know,
Speaker 1: if you're smart, you know exactly what the point is.
Speaker 1: And just you know, we don't. We don't. We don't
Speaker 1: acknowledge losers. So we move forward on from that next one.
Speaker 1: Preseason Poe was interesting to me though, Coop, So after
Speaker 1: you did the whole preseason oh you have yeah, I
Speaker 1: actually you agree with you sooner Cowboy Kip probably should
Speaker 1: have gotten a lot more recognition on there, but you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, that's a crazy one, right, And Chuck, you're
Speaker 1: right Naggie with me when I chatted Wold Naggi about
Speaker 1: it till you mentioned that odd is healthy and that's
Speaker 1: the exciting part. And this offensive lines will be real good,
Speaker 1: really good us like old school. But yeah, preseason Poe,
Speaker 1: and it's funny because you're here in the national a
Speaker 1: lot of the lot of the media at the SEC.
Speaker 1: They were really everybody's intrigued by Oklahoma. They want to
Speaker 1: see the bounce back. They want to see if the
Speaker 1: bounce back actually happens. And you know, granted, I totally
Speaker 1: get it, because the bounce back is the most important thing.
Speaker 1: We want to see if the team, you know, fixes
Speaker 1: everything he needs to fix, Well, here we are. And
Speaker 1: when they did the polling, Oklahoma said it number ten,
Speaker 1: and but they got three votes to win the conference.
Speaker 1: What do you think about that?
Speaker 3: Hey, you're right, You're right where you want to be.
Speaker 3: I guess you know, there's it is a show me
Speaker 3: It is a show me year. You got to get
Speaker 3: out there and get out there and do it this
Speaker 3: you know, this will be Oklahoma's going to be a
Speaker 3: team that you know, after five or six games, people
Speaker 3: are going to know, all right, So what are we
Speaker 3: looking at? Because you go out and you throw the
Speaker 3: offense and that's what it is. It's does the offensive line?
Speaker 3: Can they be better? And can the weapons around Matier
Speaker 3: allow them to have an identity on offense? And it's
Speaker 3: it's that And you know, I'm just going to go
Speaker 3: off of looking at production because there's no you know,
Speaker 3: John Matier has done it in a lower conference. He
Speaker 3: went out and he put the numbers up, he played
Speaker 3: the teams out in front of him. That was our buckle,
Speaker 3: and that was every single bit about it. You got
Speaker 3: to show up and you got to do what it's
Speaker 3: going to you know what what you can. I think
Speaker 3: that the offensive line, it's going to be the basic
Speaker 3: basic situation as it was last year, is if the
Speaker 3: offensive line can go out there and uh, you know,
Speaker 3: be a formidable crew, then this team is going to
Speaker 3: be hell to deal with because I think that the
Speaker 3: way the schedule breaks out is it is very very
Speaker 3: very favorable. Where the where the buys are, you know,
Speaker 3: getting getting l s U a home at the end
Speaker 3: of the season, you know that game could mean a lot,
Speaker 3: you know, for for for the conference. And so you
Speaker 3: also got to be healthy and listen, if you are
Speaker 3: one of the people who says, you know, we just
Speaker 3: got to stay healthy this year, we can't have a
Speaker 3: repeat of last year. That's never been That's never been
Speaker 3: a situation, you know in this team. I mean, I
Speaker 3: guess you could say maybe the nine season when you
Speaker 3: know Bradford goes down against byu Gresham gets hurt.
Speaker 2: You know, you you have the the.
Speaker 3: Landry Jones era begin you know that's maybe the last time.
Speaker 3: So I mean, what are we saying in twenty five years,
Speaker 3: You've had two seasons like that.
Speaker 2: This is going to be a year.
Speaker 3: This is gonna be years where if you know you
Speaker 3: have the health around it, it's going to be does
Speaker 3: the offensive line progress? And you know that none of
Speaker 3: the offensive line, you know Hopium, you know, coming from
Speaker 3: you know, coming from US is unfounded. You know, we
Speaker 3: talk to a lot of people and a lot of
Speaker 3: people are very excited about what this offensive line is
Speaker 3: going to be. And that's uh, that's you know, that's
Speaker 3: a situation where you know, you guys got like Ryan
Speaker 3: foj and you know Fasusi, those guys are pushing folks.
Speaker 3: You got Jacob Sexton up over three thirty. You know
Speaker 3: you saw, uh, you saw Troy Everett looks like he
Speaker 3: is absolutely stacked. So I think that this offensive line,
Speaker 3: I knows that this is a year for them to
Speaker 3: prove it, and they're going to go out and do it.
Speaker 3: And when your coaching staff is all on the same page,
Speaker 3: it's going to be it's going to be really nice,
Speaker 3: because that's another thing we're hearing is you know, with Latrell,
Speaker 3: God bless him and everything he does going forward, he
Speaker 3: just wasn't good at this and and so there is
Speaker 3: there's everybody's on the same page when it comes from
Speaker 3: the OC staff, the quarterbacks, wide receivers, the offensive line,
Speaker 3: all these coaches are all getting to get along and
Speaker 3: you're going to see that.
Speaker 1: Yep, You've got a lot of good stuff building this year.
Speaker 1: And that's the probably of the thing that puts a
Speaker 1: big time smile on my face. It's all you need,
Speaker 1: it is for everything to just start working out together.
Speaker 1: You don't, you don't And of course injuries. Injuries is
Speaker 1: the probably the biggest one. But if everything just falls into
Speaker 1: place barring alla Tho's I always talk about, I think
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Speaker 1: We will be healthy, we will have a great year.
Speaker 1: Enjoy you guys who appreciate you. Let's Wilson, we appreciate you.
Speaker 1: We enjoy you being here and fighting with everybody in
Speaker 1: the common section. Y'all be out there getting it. I
Speaker 1: love it. I love the battle in there, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna make sure that we do what we can to
Speaker 1: make sure that, uh, you all have a place to
Speaker 1: go and get into those fights.
Speaker 3: So did you did you hear Brent vinibles did drop
Speaker 3: a competitive depth So if you got your drinks, do it.
Speaker 3: Uh he dropped a competitive depth in in the press conference,
Speaker 3: and the buzzword has uh has gone away now because
Speaker 3: I think that that's h that is in place. But
Speaker 3: I was pretty excited to him hear him at least
Speaker 3: drop one of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah that that that was pretty good to hear him
Speaker 1: give us one of those. And I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: there's a week ago. He understands that. And I mean
Speaker 1: that even goes in consideration of the as he talked
Speaker 1: about with how many young players we played last year,
Speaker 1: which is very much helpful. Yeah, you can't beat that.
Speaker 1: You can't beat that. We that we have a lot
Speaker 1: of young players and we're playing a lot of young players.
Speaker 1: And I've said this before, who this to me is?
Speaker 1: This is kind of how to me? BV kind of
Speaker 1: built this a little backwards instead of forward. Was the
Speaker 1: we're the players, we're playing at youth now should have
Speaker 1: probably been playing in the second season. That's where we
Speaker 1: should have been having the players that he wants, that
Speaker 1: this team wanted. You probably ticularly want to play a
Speaker 1: lot of those young and not a couple of years
Speaker 1: back when he first got here instead of basically refreshing
Speaker 1: after the twenty three season like he did. But hey,
Speaker 1: what he's building though, gets you in a direction that
Speaker 1: can help you to be competitive. And that's what leads
Speaker 1: us to this next conversation. Coop, who hm, how do
Speaker 1: I say this? Good lord? That is crazy anyway? Blue
Speaker 1: chip ratio. So Bud Elliott over by the fire, I start.
Speaker 1: I think you're pulling up. Hit the like button new
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Speaker 1: Elliott for CBS Sports two four seven rating site. Every
Speaker 1: year he puts together a list of the eighteen teams
Speaker 1: they can win a national championship, and the eighteen teams.
Speaker 1: He's picked that eighteen specifically because no one outside of
Speaker 1: the eighteen has ever made it into the playoffs in
Speaker 1: their playoff era. Well correction, he said four of them have,
Speaker 1: and the four that have made it anywhere, they've all
Speaker 1: gotten blown out but he's pointed out that when it
Speaker 1: comes to his blue chip ratio, the blue ship ratio
Speaker 1: base on two four to seven's ratings, these teams are
Speaker 1: the ones that are capable of winning. Last season, Oklahoma
Speaker 1: was on that list, they were like seventy four or
Speaker 1: something like that, seventy five. So injuries, of course, is
Speaker 1: the only reason why you don't get to move forward
Speaker 1: because you get hurt, can't do anything about it right off, right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to play when you're playing nothing
Speaker 1: but freshman. You don't win as championships with all freshmen.
Speaker 1: Basically in sophomores, it's no team does it usually as veterans.
Speaker 1: The older teams. Ohio State's an example of that, very
Speaker 1: much older. They lost a lot of players that they
Speaker 1: still got their top deventsive players. So they should have
Speaker 1: a really this year this season, and quarterback is critical.
Speaker 1: But this though blue chip ratio, it's kind of crazy, man.
Speaker 1: So these the top the top eighteen is here's the
Speaker 1: first nine. Guess who's number nine there?
Speaker 2: Coop, Oh, yes, you know it's.
Speaker 3: This is It was one of the teams that that
Speaker 3: lost Washington. That was I think Washington wasn't on the
Speaker 3: top of the blue chip Was it two years ago
Speaker 3: when they lost to Michigan that might have been one
Speaker 3: of the teams and then But yeah, I mean this
Speaker 3: this this is who you who you think it is.
Speaker 3: I mean this, this list is going to be the
Speaker 3: same probably next year. There's not there, you know it.
Speaker 3: It is still about the Jimmies and Joe's. You gotta have, uh,
Speaker 3: you gotta have the you know, the players, especially in
Speaker 3: key positions, and you know you also have to have
Speaker 3: the coaching and you have to I mean, let's be
Speaker 3: let's be honest. There has to be a little bit
Speaker 3: of luck in here too, has getting through the entire season.
Speaker 3: You know, somebody gets rolled up on in the second
Speaker 3: to last week, and if you don't have quality depth
Speaker 3: behind them, you know that that's tough. But also, you know,
Speaker 3: you take a starter who is a guy who's headed
Speaker 3: for the league, and if he tweaks his ankle and
Speaker 3: he's been able to come back two weeks later, you know,
Speaker 3: that's lucky. If it's six weeks later, that's that's unlucky.
Speaker 3: So you know, you being on this one obviously doesn't
Speaker 3: surprise me. You know, oh, he's been you know recruiting
Speaker 3: at a high clip for a long time. And you
Speaker 3: know this this you're gonna pick your You know, most
Speaker 3: of the playoffs teams are going to be right out
Speaker 3: of this group.
Speaker 1: These are the ones. And as we know, feel Still
Speaker 1: who makes one of the football Bibles that I read
Speaker 1: every year and make share order. He has Oklahoma as
Speaker 1: his ninth best team and actually must see something because
Speaker 1: of course I had it right in front of me.
Speaker 1: I keep it with me at all times. This is,
Speaker 1: you know, one of my favorite things to read through,
Speaker 1: and this is how I keep up with the teams,
Speaker 1: look at who's who and try to get an understanding
Speaker 1: of what. Let me see he has. As I look
Speaker 1: at this here in his top nine, only one team
Speaker 1: is swapped in and out from what Phil still has
Speaker 1: in his top four preseason top forty teams. And that's
Speaker 1: no Penn States on here. But everybody has Penn State
Speaker 1: as the number one team in the country, which I
Speaker 1: always think was funny. But Penn State's number ten on
Speaker 1: the list. They make top nine, but they're number ten.
Speaker 1: And in his top ten, Phil still has doesn't have LSU,
Speaker 1: but LSU is one that should be listed on there.
Speaker 1: But LSU is a top nine team in the blue
Speaker 1: chip ratio. But I thought that was fascinating because it
Speaker 1: goes all the way down fifty four percent down to
Speaker 1: Florida State. Typically, your team that wins it is usually
Speaker 1: in the seventies. I think it's like seventy and up.
Speaker 1: The only one in all of them that has won
Speaker 1: it that has not been in the seventies was Michigan.
Speaker 1: Two years ago. Michigan was fifty four in their blue
Speaker 1: chip ratio. And the one thing we know about Michigan
Speaker 1: is they get a ton of recruits. At least they
Speaker 1: have over the years. That has kind of changed as
Speaker 1: of late. They've been winning a lot, spending a lot
Speaker 1: of that money, but their blue Ship ratio is not
Speaker 1: as high as you think. They're just over the physical dude.
Speaker 1: They get the right dudes to push people around. I
Speaker 1: think Oklahoma's going that direction as well.
Speaker 2: It's yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean when you see you see teams like Wisconsin,
Speaker 3: Penn State, Michigan, those guys. The difference between them and
Speaker 3: Ohio State just in general is the fact that Ohio
Speaker 3: State throws some skill out there too. Because those teams
Speaker 3: up there are always going to get great athletes.
Speaker 2: It's on the.
Speaker 3: Defense of an offensive line. Michigan's always going to have
Speaker 3: great running backs. They're always going to able to run
Speaker 3: the ball.
Speaker 2: And you know with J. J.
Speaker 3: McCarthy, uh, you know, he had a good amount of
Speaker 3: wide receivers. And what's crazy is there's a lot of
Speaker 3: my you know, Michigan wide receivers in the league, you know,
Speaker 3: a lot more than some teams who like to run
Speaker 3: their mouth quite a bit.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: But you know there's there's uh there, there's the skill
Speaker 3: in you know, all the key spots. Michigan also does
Speaker 3: really good at tight ends and so you know, it's it.
Speaker 3: It does kind of shocked me that there's not more
Speaker 3: I guess what you would say, there's not more success
Speaker 3: up there in Michigan. You know, Ohio State has had
Speaker 3: you know, has a recent national championship too, but you know,
Speaker 3: for the longest time, you know that they were kind
Speaker 3: of the same thing as you know, Oklahoma's getting to
Speaker 3: uh you know, going going all the way and then
Speaker 3: getting getting dealt by an SEC team was always always
Speaker 3: a thing that Ohio State was having trouble too. And
Speaker 3: so now with the you know, you got some money
Speaker 3: to throw around it's it's more you know, I guess,
Speaker 3: I guess all all all uh, all is fair. Now
Speaker 3: you throw the money out, you get you know, you
Speaker 3: get a player here there. Underwood is going to be
Speaker 3: a big time player if he can keep the weight
Speaker 3: down and you know you can put some you know,
Speaker 3: put some folks around him too.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, they they've got that opportunity out there. You
Speaker 2: know that.
Speaker 3: You know there's always gonna be the asterisks on Michigan's
Speaker 3: national championship with the old uh the old spygate situation
Speaker 3: and and so you know they they're gonna want to
Speaker 3: get back up there.
Speaker 2: But I mean, you got to have you got to
Speaker 2: have the guys, because let's just go.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you've got five offensive linemen who are
Speaker 3: just really really good and you get into a you know,
Speaker 3: winner take all type of a game, you know you
Speaker 3: can play well as a unit and you're still going
Speaker 3: to give up your fair share. And when you're playing
Speaker 3: guys with you know, when you're playing guys who are
Speaker 3: going to be first round draft picks, second round draft picks.
Speaker 3: You know, Perennial, all Americans are not all Americans, but
Speaker 3: Pro bowlers in the NFL I mean, you're going to
Speaker 3: have to stack up, and so it's you know, the
Speaker 3: only team that you see you throw a Texas A
Speaker 3: and m up there and they continue to have that
Speaker 3: blue chip piece. You got to also have those guys
Speaker 3: who are super super high rated across all the boards
Speaker 3: and they want to continue to get better day in
Speaker 3: and day out, because it makes it. I mean, it
Speaker 3: makes no difference if you're a five star coming out
Speaker 3: of high school and you the moment you step onto
Speaker 3: a field in college, everybody that gap closed significantly. And
Speaker 3: if you don't continue to work, you know, you get
Speaker 3: the whole adage of the hard work beats talent when
Speaker 3: talent doesn't work hard.
Speaker 2: So you've got to have the.
Speaker 3: Coaching in there, and you've got to have the desire
Speaker 3: from from these blue chippers, because if they're not all
Speaker 3: in and it's all not all one mindset, then you know,
Speaker 3: your rating really doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 1: One band, one sound, Yeah no, that's a no. You're right,
Speaker 1: it means nothing.
Speaker 3: I don't know if if I am out or if
Speaker 3: JA bounced, I still see a recording here, so uh
Speaker 3: drop into the comments. If it's just me here working,
Speaker 3: Uh to forgive me something in the chat. Let me
Speaker 3: know if if that was Jay who disappeared, and it
Speaker 3: is Jay that disappeared. But but yeah, one of the
Speaker 3: big things about you know that it was weird. Hey
Speaker 3: there you go, all right, I was.
Speaker 1: I didn't know it was me some reason. It hit
Speaker 1: me with the hit me with the for some reason,
Speaker 1: it hit me with the do you want to leave?
Speaker 1: I'm like, why would I want to leave? All I'm
Speaker 1: doing is showing off something and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I guess it. I guess it decided what to close itself.
Speaker 1: So that was weird. My bad, y'all. I must have
Speaker 1: clicked the button while I was over here prepping stuff.
Speaker 1: Let me get back to this what I was actually
Speaker 1: talking about. Gotta love tech, right, That's my favorite thing
Speaker 1: about technology is that I always got some weird stuff populating. Anyway,
Speaker 1: back to my whole point on this is a lot
Speaker 1: of these teams. It's funny when you look at it,
Speaker 1: how many teams end up with seventy plus on the
Speaker 1: blue chip ratio piece and it just still doesn't lead
Speaker 1: to a championship. Perfect example. I mean, like, look at Oregon, right,
Speaker 1: Oregon's won. I think they're like consistently always up there,
Speaker 1: especially over the last what ten years? Fifteen years? Right,
Speaker 1: they've been to a national championship. I think they actually
Speaker 1: been to a couple. I know they played Auburn when
Speaker 1: Cam was there. Didn't they play a second one?
Speaker 3: Do they remember the Florida Mariota? Was that the marioda year?
Speaker 2: Did they?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Mariota lost to Florida State too, So I lost
Speaker 1: the Auburn and he lows the Florida State. So they
Speaker 1: actually they they've played Was it Auburn that year? Wasn't
Speaker 1: it Auburn a year?
Speaker 2: Who? Who did?
Speaker 1: Who?
Speaker 2: Did Cardele Jones come in?
Speaker 1: And is the year that Ohio State I'll say won
Speaker 1: that one when when Cardale played.
Speaker 3: Because they lost quarterback right in the last game. Then
Speaker 3: they lost one in the Big Ten Championship or no,
Speaker 3: they lost two right at the end Big Ten Championship.
Speaker 3: I think Cardill Jones came in and went went hard
Speaker 3: as you know what against Wisconsin that was like a
Speaker 3: seventy or something game, and then they came out that
Speaker 3: was Bama.
Speaker 2: I beat Bama, the babat Bama.
Speaker 1: That was a Bama. The Oregon Auburn, they played Auburn,
Speaker 1: They played Auburn and they lost twenty two to nineteen
Speaker 1: to Cam Newton. That was the Cam Newton year. That's
Speaker 1: what that was, BCS. That was the BCS one actually
Speaker 1: when Cam carried that team by himself to win the Natty.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I thought that was it. That that's anyway
Speaker 1: Oregon is consistently on that number. Is my point. That
Speaker 1: you look at that, that that number there, and it's
Speaker 1: like Organ's always up there magically. But they had they
Speaker 1: don't have no titles. They have zero national championships. And
Speaker 1: Florida State beat Auburn in the title game that year,
Speaker 1: and that was the BCS Natty. Could have sworn Oregon
Speaker 1: went another time. I don't know how they did. They
Speaker 1: lost Ohio State, So you're right, yeah, that was one.
Speaker 1: That's what I was crazy about. Remember was it Auburn? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you're right it was Cardile that Cardile Jones game.
Speaker 1: That was Oregon. So I was all over the place.
Speaker 1: My bad, y'all. They beat Florida State in the first
Speaker 1: round of the CFP. So that's where I completely missed
Speaker 1: what you were saying. That's my bad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the the I mean, but you look at it,
Speaker 3: I mean, you got to get through your conference first
Speaker 3: and foremost. I mean that's been Texas's issue. Texas out
Speaker 3: recruited Oklahoma, I would say since the Stoops era, since
Speaker 3: two thousand, since we're just going through a time. I mean,
Speaker 3: Texas out recruited Oklahoma. I would say, all but maybe
Speaker 3: one or two years, and they had four conference championships
Speaker 3: to show for it. You know, they couldn't it past Oklahoma.
Speaker 3: And so this is an indicator, this Samet, This isn't
Speaker 3: the gospel, though, This is an indicator that you've got
Speaker 3: to have that, you know, because you can't run it there.
Speaker 3: You know, it's just hard for you to make it
Speaker 3: through a major conference schedule and then now making it
Speaker 3: through the playoffs.
Speaker 2: You're going to try and try to make the playoffs.
Speaker 3: I mean, eventually the talent's going to overwhelm and you
Speaker 3: know it's it's not it's not Hollywood. You're gonna have
Speaker 3: to have some of the dudes in there too.
Speaker 1: No, That's that's true and a very much fair point.
Speaker 1: You gotta have the right players to be able to
Speaker 1: do it. Uh. Now, they did do a blue chip
Speaker 1: ratio that included uh I did put your comment up
Speaker 1: last bricked up was pretty funny. I thought, I was hilarious.
Speaker 1: I had to put it on there, but I did
Speaker 1: look and look at the what's this the transfer one
Speaker 1: because they did it with transfer So that number that
Speaker 1: I showed y'all was only high school recruits had no
Speaker 1: did not include a single transfer. But this is the
Speaker 1: transfer rate and Oklahoma's rated at light number twelve if
Speaker 1: you include transfers fifty six percent, so they're at that
Speaker 1: michigan ish number. They're them in Clemson with Florida right
Speaker 1: there above them because of the number of the transfers
Speaker 1: that they brought in. So I thought that was also
Speaker 1: interesting because you know, when you really look at a
Speaker 1: lot of your transfers are players that were not rated
Speaker 1: very high, but they were really good, and then they
Speaker 1: move up from whatever program they were to you know,
Speaker 1: a more elite programm in comparison, an opportunity to play.
Speaker 1: So I thought that was really interesting too. It was
Speaker 1: I thought that was interesting. But it's a good question
Speaker 1: will they leading in the run game. I do believe
Speaker 1: we will have a heavy, heavy, heavy run game this year,
Speaker 1: especially because Mati is a runner. I mean, he throws
Speaker 1: very well, but he's a runner too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know you're running games going to open
Speaker 3: up a lot with MATERI what did he weigh in
Speaker 3: at twenty was it two twenty one or two twenty five? Like,
Speaker 3: you know, he you know he is You could tell,
Speaker 3: you know, when he was standing up next to a
Speaker 3: couple different guys.
Speaker 2: I mean, the guy is thicker.
Speaker 3: He had to put on a little bit extra muscle
Speaker 3: because you know, I don't think that you can really
Speaker 3: you may be able to stuff the stats, but you know,
Speaker 3: I don't think Materier is gonna be running for like
Speaker 3: a thousand yards or anything like that. Like I think
Speaker 3: that you know, a good spot for him to be
Speaker 3: is around the four hundred yards. You know he's gonna
Speaker 3: want to take it off and that's you know, there's
Speaker 3: there's difference in you know, uh, you know, designed runs
Speaker 3: and just scramble drill to where he's getting out and
Speaker 3: getting getting out there and going.
Speaker 2: But I mean, you got to.
Speaker 3: You got to go back to last year. You know,
Speaker 3: made the comment earlier than the spring. I think the
Speaker 3: offense was having a lot of success, a lot more
Speaker 3: than the defense expected for them to have, right, you know,
Speaker 3: with a with a brand new offensive system, new quarterback
Speaker 3: and everything, and so you know that's uh, there was
Speaker 3: there was success last spring, but it was not a
Speaker 3: situation to where you know, the defense was getting beat.
Speaker 3: I think there were a lot of favorable situations that
Speaker 3: the coaching staff kind of allowed some success to happen.
Speaker 3: And that's a that's a tough place to go. But
Speaker 3: you know, I think that with the running game this year,
Speaker 3: I think that when you have a Jade not Jeometier,
Speaker 3: you have an Xavier Robinson, and then you still have
Speaker 3: Taylor Tatum and you still have Javante Barnes.
Speaker 2: Those are guys who.
Speaker 3: Are you You're going to be able to run and
Speaker 3: you also you get a chance to have uh, you know,
Speaker 3: leads and you're gonna be running a lot more.
Speaker 1: That's what's most important. If you have a lot more leads,
Speaker 1: you'll be able to just eat clock, eat eat clock,
Speaker 1: eat clock, eat eat clock, which is critical. Got any questions,
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Speaker 1: Smith asked a question, Yes, Michigan has done it, but
Speaker 1: what other team did it too? When I look back
Speaker 1: on the blue chit ratio, I don't remember I remember
Speaker 1: seeing anybody that was under seventy percent keeping it a buck.
Speaker 1: Probably the closest one was probably because I think they've
Speaker 1: started really they started this back and when CFP started,
Speaker 1: so you had none of the teams that won the
Speaker 1: Natty since the Copsaboule Playoffs has started has won it
Speaker 1: outside of Michigan with you know, fifty something percent Before that,
Speaker 1: I think that Auburn team with Cam was probably the
Speaker 1: only one, uh because that team had I think one
Speaker 1: offensive lineman that took some snaps in the NFL, but
Speaker 1: they didn't really have anybody go to the pros that
Speaker 1: that offense was literally Cam Newton and the Pips. I
Speaker 1: can't think of. There's like nobody else that I can
Speaker 1: think of there. Michigan is the only one that has
Speaker 1: done it. And again that was because they are a
Speaker 1: overly physical squad. They were a squad that would just
Speaker 1: beat the crap at everybody.
Speaker 3: So I look at her here. I would maybe wonder
Speaker 3: about the first Clemson National championship. Maybe that might have
Speaker 3: been one because at that point they weren't really you know,
Speaker 3: recruiting like crazy at that point, I have to probably
Speaker 3: go back.
Speaker 1: And see what that was.
Speaker 2: What year was that sixteen sixteen?
Speaker 1: Let me lookt the twenty fifteen class. Twenty fifteen Clemson
Speaker 1: class was top nine twenty fourteen Clemson class, and they
Speaker 1: were number nine in the country in fifteen. In fourteen
Speaker 1: they were sixteenth with ten four stars in that class,
Speaker 1: and then we'll go to thirteen. So we'll do the
Speaker 1: first three classes just to be fair. Here they were
Speaker 1: fifteenth with ten more.
Speaker 2: So that's still pretty good. I mean, that's still pretty good.
Speaker 1: It's still pretty high, right, it's still pretty darn high.
Speaker 1: But Michigan was up there as well, but they didn't
Speaker 1: They had a lot of they had a lot of
Speaker 1: three stars on their rosters. Clemson was twenty when you
Speaker 1: go back to twenty twelve, twenty ten four ten three stars.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's a good question. They may have been one.
Speaker 2: Maybe they may have.
Speaker 1: I have to go back and count and look through
Speaker 1: the entire roster and see. But sixteen was a big
Speaker 1: class for them. One five, eleven, four stars, eight three stars,
Speaker 1: and that team was really good.
Speaker 3: I see the TVO year of Florida. I mean, back then,
Speaker 3: Florida was absolutely dealing. So I would say that that
Speaker 3: was probably a really good because I remember that national championship.
Speaker 3: I mean there were I know that OU alone had
Speaker 3: what was it for first rounders that year? Tebow went
Speaker 3: at the end to the Broncos. Still, I still remember
Speaker 3: where I was. I was sitting next to al ashback
Speaker 3: when that when that happened at the bar in Norman,
Speaker 3: and I just remember being pissed. But yeah, I would,
Speaker 3: I would probably. Man, just looking through here, I just
Speaker 3: don't see because you got a lot of Alabama's, Florida,
Speaker 3: LSU Florida, you know, Southern Cali. You get back into
Speaker 3: the two thousands, and I mean, yeah, ever single one
Speaker 3: of those teams were good and they're right and we're
Speaker 3: good for a while.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they would. I don't know if
Speaker 2: there is another team in there that did it.
Speaker 1: Nope. So Jonathan, Yes, TCU made it to the title game.
Speaker 1: I think there were four teams that were outside of
Speaker 1: the top eighteen in blue chip ratio that has made it.
Speaker 1: All four of them are zero to four in winning
Speaker 1: making it. Yeah, winning it not so much. The only
Speaker 1: one that's won it it's been outside of the seventies
Speaker 1: was Michigan that I've calculated. Uh, this Clemson team was
Speaker 1: they I think they were pretty stacked actually with Watson
Speaker 1: and then Trevor Lawrence the number one player the next year,
Speaker 1: uh so went they went to the title game back
Speaker 1: to back years with Watson at quarterback, and then Kelly
Speaker 1: Bryant year was not you know, the best, and then
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence walks in there and they go undefeated as
Speaker 1: a true freshman.
Speaker 3: And I think that Trevor Lawrence is still looking for
Speaker 3: that magic from that year.
Speaker 1: I mean shooting and he's in Jacksonville. There's nothing you
Speaker 1: can do about. Oh, he's definitely A. He's definitely a
Speaker 1: you definitely, he definitely uh is A is a product
Speaker 1: of his environment. And I love the A lot of
Speaker 1: people point out the Materia playing out West. I mean,
Speaker 1: as as pointed out, Jackson Dark was playing out there
Speaker 1: in the pack. Matier played in the pack when they
Speaker 1: had all their teams and then when they didn't have
Speaker 1: their teams too. He had some snaps behind cam Ward
Speaker 1: a few times. Yeah. So yeah, it's you know, we'll
Speaker 1: see what Materier decides to turn into. He has the
Speaker 1: opportunity to prove and shut a lot of people up,
Speaker 1: and I hope he does. We know he's working. That's
Speaker 1: the only thing I know I'm concerned about is that
Speaker 1: we know that he is.
Speaker 2: Working and the team.
Speaker 3: And here's the thing is the team believes in him,
Speaker 3: and not just not just the offensive side of the ball,
Speaker 3: not just the coaches. I mean you can tell the difference.
Speaker 3: They talk about it differently, so that you know, if
Speaker 3: anybody is wondering if John Matier is going to come
Speaker 3: in here and be similar to what we had last year,
Speaker 3: I mean, that's just that's nonsense. Now if you say
Speaker 3: I'm you know, I'm a waiting see mode. You don't
Speaker 3: have to have Jo Matier be a Heisman winning quarterback
Speaker 3: this year. You just don't you need him to make decisions.
Speaker 3: How many games did we you know, you look back
Speaker 3: at the Tennessee game last year, you know, are we
Speaker 3: in that game at the end if it's not for
Speaker 3: handing the ball back over play after play? You know,
Speaker 3: defense does a good job. And so it kind of
Speaker 3: leads to the question of I don't know if you
Speaker 3: saw it, Jay, somebody said, do we think the defense
Speaker 3: will be.
Speaker 2: Be better or as good as it was last year?
Speaker 1: Hmm. Yeah. We've talked about this defense should be better,
Speaker 1: better in in overall numbers, mainly because the offense is
Speaker 1: gonna allow for them to do that.
Speaker 3: I can, I mean, I can kind of go both
Speaker 3: ways on this one. I think that And I was
Speaker 3: sharing this with with somebody the other day. Things I
Speaker 3: want to see is the edge rush. The edge rush
Speaker 3: has been something that from both sides to the field.
Speaker 3: You know, have we had a you know, when's the
Speaker 3: last time we had really good, you know, edge rushers
Speaker 3: on both sides. You know, you go back quite a ways,
Speaker 3: you know, to where your defensive ends were guys that
Speaker 3: were just you know, just bawling out. Because I think
Speaker 3: that up the middle, you're going to be better than
Speaker 3: you were last year. I think David Stone is going
Speaker 3: to be better than what we were able to throw
Speaker 3: out there. With some of the losses the past couple
Speaker 3: of years. You still have Don Williams, you still have
Speaker 3: Jaden Jackson, you still have g Baby. Those guys are
Speaker 3: going to continue to do what they do. If you
Speaker 3: can pair our Mason with a Marvin Jones Junior, a
Speaker 3: Danny Akoye, Taylor Wine, guys like that, it is going
Speaker 3: to it is going to be good. The things that
Speaker 3: I think that separate us from a top five capable
Speaker 3: defense is what does our zone coverage look like?
Speaker 2: What does our edge rushers look like?
Speaker 3: And then the healthy defensive backs, because if you get
Speaker 3: a healthy Gentry for ten games.
Speaker 1: Gentry healthy and and as we're hearing he's under he is,
Speaker 1: a healthy Gentry is going to be a nasty Gentry,
Speaker 1: period very much.
Speaker 3: This is his livelihood on the line right now, so
Speaker 3: he is going to do everything. And Gentry's injury last
Speaker 3: year was basically.
Speaker 2: They they fixed.
Speaker 3: The wrong thing going into the year last year, and
Speaker 3: now they got it fixed.
Speaker 2: So he he's tired of the talk. He said it.
Speaker 3: You know, he's tired of hearing it from inside the
Speaker 3: ever Center. He's tired of hearing it from everywhere. And
Speaker 3: he knows that this is his this is his final year.
Speaker 3: But Jay, I think that with the offense, if you
Speaker 3: can do a great complimentary football, you know, your defense
Speaker 3: coming in and after a quick strike touchdown is a
Speaker 3: little bit more pumped up than after a three and out.
Speaker 3: And if you compare, you compare, you know, a good
Speaker 3: pass rush, you can mix in the zone coverage and
Speaker 3: you can you know have a healthy gentry in eli.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is it's a top five defense. I
Speaker 3: have zero doubt in my mind that this is that's
Speaker 3: what can happen.
Speaker 1: What I love is that this is really showing you
Speaker 1: a continuation of what BV has done just as a
Speaker 1: coach and his defensive coordinator in his career. Like when
Speaker 1: you go look at the numbers, every year his defenses
Speaker 1: get better and better, and lemon, thank you for pointing
Speaker 1: this out. The real question is who's the leader with
Speaker 1: the loss of stuts, Who's going to be the dude
Speaker 1: that steps up? And I'm gonna be honest, man, it
Speaker 1: feels like it's probably Kip for the linebacker room with
Speaker 1: a lot of Kobe McKenzie barking orders, because he barked
Speaker 1: orders this past season. You know, I've mentioned that before.
Speaker 1: That's the one thing that impressed me to most about
Speaker 1: him and got me excited is that he was barking
Speaker 1: orders the entire time. But then you go, besides that
Speaker 1: secondary wise, nobilly, but you got Robert Spears Jennings and
Speaker 1: Peyton Bowen. I think Robert Spears Jings is your de
Speaker 1: facto leader there. He's the one who's going to bark
Speaker 1: all the orders out at everybody and say, hey, get
Speaker 1: your ish together and call everything out, which is to me,
Speaker 1: what Yeah, that's the thing that gets me going.
Speaker 2: And you know Barbara Jones Jr.
Speaker 3: Is I mean, that's that's he's one of the oldest
Speaker 3: dudes on the team. I mean, this is a guy
Speaker 3: who was a five star, you know, was almost in
Speaker 3: Oklahoma commit before Lincoln bailed that guy. He knows what
Speaker 3: he's playing for too, and he knows that his draft
Speaker 3: stock will continue to soar if this defense.
Speaker 2: Plays really, really well.
Speaker 3: So you've got our Mason MJJ, he got the two linebackers.
Speaker 3: I bet you this Gentry is more of a show me.
Speaker 3: He's going to get out there, but he gets a
Speaker 3: game or two under his belt, and he's going to
Speaker 3: be one of the vocal leaders too.
Speaker 1: Yep, gentry should be. Gentry should be. But you've got
Speaker 1: a lot of You've got a lot of You've got
Speaker 1: you've got a lot of options when it comes to
Speaker 1: those that want to be vocal. But they've already all
Speaker 1: said that communication is critical for them. So our Mason
Speaker 1: Thomas said it. You had Robert Spiers Jenning say it, right,
Speaker 1: So we know the linebacker room is going to be
Speaker 1: very vocal because that's the most important room in a
Speaker 1: Brent Ventible's defense is how the linebackers play. And I
Speaker 1: think that's what's gonna be interesting in having three linebacker coaches,
Speaker 1: which I'm so glad that BV did that. He talked
Speaker 1: about having new coaches at slipping huge to have three,
Speaker 1: not one, but three linebacker coaches this season, Cooper, that's
Speaker 1: gonna be probably your game change is difference. So so
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this. I pulled up the numbers on it.
Speaker 1: So when BV got to Clemson left Oklahoma, we had
Speaker 1: an SP plus defense and defense efficiency of four ten,
Speaker 1: defect was at six, discrs was at four. He goes
Speaker 1: to Clinton in twenty twelve, their defense is fifty fourth ranked,
Speaker 1: inefficiency fifty fourth to forty fourth, and NSP plus defense
Speaker 1: fifty eighth, average of about fifty season two moves up
Speaker 1: to nine twenty eighth range or whatnot. Third year they
Speaker 1: were the number one defense in the country inefficiency. The
Speaker 1: year after that, in fifteen, they were number two twenty
Speaker 1: one FP plus, but they were number two in efficiency,
Speaker 1: which for this team. Now we passed the third year,
Speaker 1: the defense was ranked in the top fifteen inefficiency overall ten.
Speaker 1: I think the number ten at ESPN's efficiency, fifteenth in
Speaker 1: around the sp plus and a lot of the other metrics.
Speaker 1: I think d score had them at ten. But you
Speaker 1: had no offense. So of course defense is doing all
Speaker 1: the work. Year after he goes to number two and
Speaker 1: it's consistent, and that's when they had a quarterback replacement.
Speaker 1: That's when you did had Kelly going out there. Actually
Speaker 1: you get Deshaun Watson's first year going. Then the next
Speaker 1: year Watson gets going, and it's just maintaining defense. Defense, defense,
Speaker 1: that's where we're going. We should be able to have
Speaker 1: a top five defense at the end of the season.
Speaker 1: It's no excuse we won't. We're only playing two turning quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Next year, next season in twenty six, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: different because you're gonna have a lot of people come back.
Speaker 1: But yeah, this year, yeah, it should be much better
Speaker 1: than that. Capacity should be should be potentially that. So
Speaker 1: I'm here for it. Man. The blue shit ratio says
Speaker 1: we have a chance, So I say we have a chance.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know there's questions about the safety is
Speaker 3: going in there, I don't know this is the last
Speaker 3: thing before we h letter back you back to their lives.
Speaker 3: But I'll tell you one thing is you're you're already
Speaker 3: starting to see the safety room with I mean, I
Speaker 3: think that Robert spe Jennings is only the defact He's
Speaker 3: the only de facto starter at this point in the
Speaker 3: safety room. I think that there will be a lot
Speaker 3: of guys that play between Hardy and Powers and Peyton Bowen.
Speaker 3: But you know, Peyton Bowen has I mean, he's got
Speaker 3: a ton to prove this year because he has had
Speaker 3: you know, the Nixon bruises here and there, He's had
Speaker 3: a lot of you know, it's safe to say that
Speaker 3: we've all expected a lot more out of Peyton Bowen
Speaker 3: than we've seen at this point. And because a lot
Speaker 3: of the same, a lot of the the oh wows
Speaker 3: have been in spring training and fall camps and stuff
Speaker 3: like that. So you know, he's, uh, he is getting
Speaker 3: He's getting pushed right now, bye by both Hardy and Powers.
Speaker 3: Powers is playing a lot. Powers is proving himself to
Speaker 3: be a person that they're going to make it hard
Speaker 3: to keep him off the field.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Boganowski is still Boganowski can he can he put the
Speaker 3: the brains behind uh, you know, the athletic ability and
Speaker 3: get out there and do that. It's going to be
Speaker 3: a lot of fun watching that safety room because you
Speaker 3: know that's where Bv's wanted it is. You've got different
Speaker 3: different guys with you know, different peak skill sets. You know,
Speaker 3: you look at you know, the cheetah position between Oma Sego,
Speaker 3: you get uh guys like you know, uh I just
Speaker 3: said powers and then you have Kendall Dolby, who you
Speaker 3: know just was one of the uh just was the
Speaker 3: most uh you know, uh I guess team coveted defenders
Speaker 3: two years ago and we saw what he was before
Speaker 3: he went down versus Tennessee last year.
Speaker 1: Exact.
Speaker 3: This team's finally got to a spot to where you've
Speaker 3: got so many different guys that you know, when you
Speaker 3: rotate healthy, fresh bodies out there, you don't miss a
Speaker 3: beat and there's going to be a lot of creativity happening,
Speaker 3: and not only on the defense, but you know that
Speaker 3: circling back. Jay Jeometiers said that they put a bunch
Speaker 3: of new offense in that they didn't expect to put
Speaker 3: in the playbook also, so we went from dumbing down
Speaker 3: in offense for the Pups to get through last year
Speaker 3: to installing more and more offense earlier than they expected
Speaker 3: to at this point in the off season.
Speaker 1: Yep, Mar's good question. Here is a transfer portal closed
Speaker 1: to next year, so it's a little weird. Let me explain.
Speaker 1: So the general transfer portal, yes, is closed until next season,
Speaker 1: the general one. But and I'm saying this, but specifically
Speaker 1: the when the settlement went down July first, in every
Speaker 1: thing was signed mid July, there was a I think
Speaker 1: it was a thirty day window. Let me see, let
Speaker 1: me look real quick. I want to make sure I'm.
Speaker 3: Right, because you always have the situation where if a
Speaker 3: coach bails, then you got where they get fired.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, I was right. So there is. So
Speaker 1: there's a designated UH student athlete rule that comes from
Speaker 1: the settlement that went an affect July seventh, and it
Speaker 1: closed August. Closes August fifth, so that window is open
Speaker 1: right now. What that window was created for was for
Speaker 1: those situations where teams were cutting players because they had
Speaker 1: to get underneath that one oh five number before July first.
Speaker 1: But those key are considered grandfathered in because the judge
Speaker 1: said the students did not deserve to lose their spots
Speaker 1: just because of the settlement there they used. This should
Speaker 1: be phased out instead of an instant cutoff, so any
Speaker 1: of those kids that want to return can And so
Speaker 1: there's a one time transfer window that opened July seven
Speaker 1: through opportite. If that's why you're starting to see some
Speaker 1: kids enter the portal. If the kid is marked as
Speaker 1: a designated student, the team has that mark them as that,
Speaker 1: then they can go ahead and get back in the
Speaker 1: portal and go somewhere else. For example, we had some
Speaker 1: players that entered the portal, but they came back. We
Speaker 1: actually have some kids come back over the last weeks.
Speaker 1: Last week or so, when we looked at the roster,
Speaker 1: me and Coop went through it. You got some like
Speaker 1: some guys in the secondary like Jocelyn Malaska, the big
Speaker 1: corner that came here from Utah. He's back on the
Speaker 1: most recent roster, so he did not leave. Let me
Speaker 1: go see when I looked at this portal stuff, let
Speaker 1: me see who else entered the portal. I'm still I'm
Speaker 1: actually surprised that Gabees, Gabe Salchuck is still here. Not
Speaker 1: gonna lie, did not I kind of expected did not
Speaker 1: expect him to be sticking around. But you know, Gavin
Speaker 1: goes to Florida State, he sticks around.
Speaker 2: Which is it Donald? Was he another one that was?
Speaker 1: I think? So, I don't know if he came back.
Speaker 1: I did not see him on Uh uh, I didn't
Speaker 1: see him on the roster. But let me go look
Speaker 1: real quick. I will pull that up right now because
Speaker 1: I'm actually curious if he is there. But you did
Speaker 1: have some kids that showed up, so it was weird.
Speaker 1: It's like I said, it's been weird looking at it
Speaker 1: that way. But yeah, you got a lot of players
Speaker 1: that came I looked on and I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: why is he still on the rock? Eh? It was
Speaker 1: the designated deal so uh yeah, im Alaska's back. Read
Speaker 1: du Quasi the dB that was here from Carl Albert.
Speaker 1: He played quarterback at Carlid before you hurt. He's back
Speaker 1: on the roster. It was very interesting to see a
Speaker 1: lot of these players that actually made a return.
Speaker 3: So yeah, nothing, I would say, you know, bless all
Speaker 3: of them for being here. And but uh, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't think that we're gonna see any any names
Speaker 3: that names of note to be heading out or heading back.
Speaker 2: In at this.
Speaker 3: Point, it is, uh, you know we can we can
Speaker 3: put that one to bed for right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really it. But you also got your freshmans
Speaker 1: that have pulled up. You've got CJ. Nixon as well
Speaker 1: as Marcus James on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 1: So you're getting a little bit deeper on that one.
Speaker 1: So all right, Uh, no more questions. We're gonna be out.
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