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Speaker 4: Welcome to a Thursday edition of the show.
Speaker 5: I'm your host for the next three hours, Mandy Connell,
Speaker 5: joined by my right hand man.
Speaker 4: He's Anthony Rodriguez. You can call him a Rod. Mandy Laurian.
Speaker 4: Let's go.
Speaker 5: And today We've got a bunch of stuff to talk about,
Speaker 5: plus a Rod, and we're just having our own sports
Speaker 5: show off the air.
Speaker 4: Because I listened to the.
Speaker 5: Press conference introducing the new chief of baseball operations for
Speaker 5: the Colorado Rockies, John excuse me, Paul de Podesta, and oh,
Speaker 5: I hope I'm not Charli Brown lining up to get
Speaker 5: the football again.
Speaker 4: I hope I'm not. But I'm so excited now you
Speaker 4: are not.
Speaker 6: The Rockies clearly got the right guy. I hope they
Speaker 6: let him have total control and do his thing, because
Speaker 6: I gotta say it, and I say this in a
Speaker 6: complimentary way. He's a masochist in the way that. I
Speaker 6: love that he is accepting this challenge. He knows it's unique,
Speaker 6: he knows it's not easy. He came for it and
Speaker 6: he's here for it, and he's I think he's up
Speaker 6: to the challenge. I hope they let him get his
Speaker 6: guy he wants as manager, even though in true moneyball style,
Speaker 6: which would be ironic, if they get a guy that
Speaker 6: fights all of the stuff he will bring to the table,
Speaker 6: that'd be kind of funny and maybe that would work.
Speaker 6: But let him work. He's the right guy, and he's
Speaker 6: a smart baseball sports guy in general.
Speaker 5: And if you didn't hear the press conference, we already
Speaker 5: here live on KOA. In the press conference, people ask
Speaker 5: Dick Montfort directly, so what is your role here? Essentially,
Speaker 5: I mean he just basically was like, so, what's your
Speaker 5: job here? And Dick Montfort, you guys. His comments they
Speaker 5: were so good, And I'm just going to say this,
Speaker 5: I have been very disappointed in the leadership of the
Speaker 5: Montfort family as a Rockies fan. And there's no other
Speaker 5: way to put it. And I was not at all
Speaker 5: certain that whoever they were going to hire was going
Speaker 5: to have the kind of autonomy that Arod's talking about
Speaker 5: that has to be had in order to remake the
Speaker 5: culture of this baseball team, which is exactly what has
Speaker 5: to happen, and not just the team, not just the players,
Speaker 5: the front office. They got to change, they got to
Speaker 5: kind of start over, they got to hit the reset button.
Speaker 5: And after hearing Dick today, I think we're there. I
Speaker 5: think this is serious. I think Dick Montfort wants to
Speaker 5: win more badly than he wants to be in charge.
Speaker 6: This is a blank canvas for Paul Deepodesta, but there's
Speaker 6: a lot of red in the ledger you want to
Speaker 6: clear out, and that red is just what fandom is
Speaker 6: right now as a Colorado Rockies fan, So it's a
Speaker 6: big challenge. But man, it's easy to buy in to
Speaker 6: what Paul messaging is right now. I love the higher
Speaker 6: I think he's the right kind of guy. I've told everyone.
Speaker 6: I think this is the way baseball works in Colorado.
Speaker 6: I think you have to come at it from such
Speaker 6: a baseball nerd analytical way and get the right manager
Speaker 6: that will follow true to that identity as well. Yep,
Speaker 6: and I think they're steering towards that that right direction.
Speaker 4: Now. I believe it. I'm ready.
Speaker 5: I am there's like little remember when you were here
Speaker 5: when I was talking about like this little you know,
Speaker 5: a seed is starting to germinate and pretty soon a
Speaker 5: little green sprout is going to come through this. So oil,
Speaker 5: that's my baseball heart right now. It's growing, but it's
Speaker 5: not growing three sizes yet.
Speaker 4: It's just hopeful. We're actually we've reached out to.
Speaker 5: The Rockies and I'm hoping that we can get Paul D.
Speaker 5: Fadesta on the show for a long conversation, not just
Speaker 5: about baseball, but I'm interested to know about his leadership style.
Speaker 5: I'm interested to know what motivates him, as a Roger said,
Speaker 5: to come out and take on this challenge, which is significant.
Speaker 5: You're coming into a a baseball team that has had
Speaker 5: absolutely embarrassingly bad seasons for three seasons in a row.
Speaker 5: This is not a temporary blip on the radar, right,
Speaker 5: So I'm hopeful, and I hope that other Rockies fans.
Speaker 4: Are hopeful as well.
Speaker 5: We've got a lot of other stuff to talk about,
Speaker 5: so let's jump to the blog. I do have to
Speaker 5: answer one listener question on the Common Spirit health text line,
Speaker 5: and it just says, Mandy.
Speaker 4: Wait, hang on, hang on, hang on, Mandy.
Speaker 5: I know it's not asked me anything Friday, but I
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Speaker 5: Let's do the blog. Find the blog by going to
Speaker 5: mandy'sblog dot com. That's mandy'sblog dot com. Look for the
Speaker 5: headline that says eleven thirteen to twenty five blog the.
Speaker 4: Shutdown is Oba.
Speaker 5: Yeah, click on that and here are the headlines you
Speaker 5: will find within.
Speaker 6: I think in office half American all with ships and
Speaker 6: clipmas have seen that's going to press.
Speaker 5: Plant today on the blog Ding Dong the Shutdowns Dead.
Speaker 5: Wendy Correa has seen some stuff. Who's afraid of do better?
Speaker 4: Denver?
Speaker 5: This can't be right, Rocky's fan. Denver public Schools is
Speaker 5: led by a race baiting liar, but they still aren't
Speaker 5: as bad as Adam's fourteen Polis is gutting care for
Speaker 5: kids with autism. Lauren Bobert wants Epstein's files released.
Speaker 4: Oh, uranium, I found it.
Speaker 5: Trump has no business demanding a pardon for Net and Yahoo.
Speaker 5: We'll check bought romances and marriages. EV subsidies were for
Speaker 5: rich people. The James Comy evidence is strong. We are
Speaker 5: a charitable lock. Colorado minimum wage hikes are killing fast
Speaker 5: food jobs. Surveillance for thee but not for me. The
Speaker 5: FDA removes the black box warning from hormone replacement.
Speaker 4: I think you have my stapler.
Speaker 5: Want to play of the Day with me Friday and
Speaker 5: maybe win a fabulous prize.
Speaker 4: This isn't the normal pageant talent for sure.
Speaker 5: Hockey players are just like us. Trump is wrong on
Speaker 5: h one. B V says Kyle Clark, and I.
Speaker 4: Agree on something.
Speaker 5: The last penny has been produced. We'll target feel friendlier.
Speaker 5: Those are the headlines on the blog at mandy'sblog dot com.
Speaker 2: Tic Tech tow.
Speaker 4: A winner. Yeah. I like the dramatic pause when I've
Speaker 4: done a good job. I know it's coming.
Speaker 5: But it's kind of like when the bands get up
Speaker 5: and leave the stage and we all stand there and
Speaker 5: clap because we've been trained like monkeys to clap for
Speaker 5: the encore.
Speaker 4: Are yeah, and.
Speaker 5: Then they come out doing the same encore that they've
Speaker 5: been in every single stadium, and you know, it's just
Speaker 5: like a thing we do now. It's this little play
Speaker 5: that we do. And when Nancy teases me like that,
Speaker 5: I'm ready.
Speaker 4: I'm ready.
Speaker 5: We have a lot of stuff that I want to
Speaker 5: jump into, and we have a couple of guests.
Speaker 4: Coming up today.
Speaker 5: Wendy Correa is a Fello radio dame and she's written
Speaker 5: a very good memoir about sort of her life, which,
Speaker 5: you know, it never ceases to amaze me how you
Speaker 5: have someone someone who lived in the public eye, right
Speaker 5: you feel like you know them a little bit, and
Speaker 5: then you find out later that in their personal lives
Speaker 5: or their childhood or whatever, they've had all of these
Speaker 5: incredibly significant challenges that they've overcome.
Speaker 4: And I love a good memoir.
Speaker 5: This one is not very long, so if you're a
Speaker 5: fast reader like me, you can knock it out very quickly.
Speaker 5: She's coming on at one to talk about the book,
Speaker 5: and then at two thirty Paul Crowley of the City
Speaker 5: Cast podcast. He also writes on occasion for fifty two
Speaker 5: eighty magazine. He did a story about Do Better Denver
Speaker 5: and he wrote the story in the midst of all
Speaker 5: that nonsense of you know, the fake account coming up
Speaker 5: after do Better Denver deleted her account. It was just
Speaker 5: all the drama and he talked to me about it,
Speaker 5: and I'm quoted in the story, and he's coming in
Speaker 5: not I mean, you know, but he's coming in to
Speaker 5: have a bigger conversation about what he found out in
Speaker 5: his long conversations with people about do Better Denver. So
Speaker 5: that's coming up at two thirty. Now, I'm gonna be
Speaker 5: honest today, guys. There's a lot of big stories. Obviously,
Speaker 5: the shutdown is over, and this is good news for
Speaker 5: those of you who have airline tickets for Thanksgiving or
Speaker 5: next week, like Anthony does. It'll take a few days,
Speaker 5: by the way, maybe a week or so, because now
Speaker 5: all of the airplanes are out of position, and that
Speaker 5: is the biggest problem when they have any kind of
Speaker 5: massive shutdown. It was like after nine to eleven when
Speaker 5: they went to reopen the airspace, everybody was like, wait,
Speaker 5: we got pilots in the wrong place, we got flight
Speaker 5: attendants in the wrong place, we got planes in the
Speaker 5: wrong place. So all of the puzzle pieces have to
Speaker 5: sort of settle back down into where they're supposed to go.
Speaker 5: But my is is by the time a rod leaves
Speaker 5: on what Thursday or Friday of next weekday Friday of
Speaker 5: next week, you should be fine. So I'm feeling good
Speaker 5: about things. It has been absolutely fascinating to watch the
Speaker 5: Democrats glom onto the message that this shutdown was because
Speaker 5: Republicans didn't fix the healthcare mess they created. It's a
Speaker 5: great line unless you actually know the truth, and the
Speaker 5: truth is so undeniable and crystal clear and easy to
Speaker 5: demonstrate that it's stunning to me that men and women
Speaker 5: that we've elected to the US Senate are running around
Speaker 5: sharing a lie as our members of the US House,
Speaker 5: like we can't look it up.
Speaker 4: Let me explain it to you just one more time,
Speaker 4: really quickly.
Speaker 5: This is not going to take long at all, but
Speaker 5: you need to be able to push back on people
Speaker 5: who are trying to blame any part of this on
Speaker 5: the Republican Party, because the reality is is that Democrats,
Speaker 5: the same Democrats, many of them, who are demanding negotiations
Speaker 5: on different parts of the Continuing Resolution, same exact people.
Speaker 5: They did not take any Republican input before they passed Obamacare.
Speaker 5: They did it without Republican votes. And then in twenty
Speaker 5: twenty two, when they were in control and Joe Biden
Speaker 5: was president, they wanted to pass the COVID what was
Speaker 5: it called the American Rescue Plan. They expanded the Obamacare
Speaker 5: subsidies to a point that it's well beyond what they
Speaker 5: were ever intended to do. Remember, we were sold to
Speaker 5: Obamacare on a few promises. We were sold on the
Speaker 5: promise of if you like your doctor, you can keep them,
Speaker 5: which was a lie. If you like your plan, you
Speaker 5: can keep it, which was a lie. And that all
Speaker 5: of these subsidies, all of this taxpayer money, my money,
Speaker 5: your money, a Rod's money, was only going to go
Speaker 5: to the people at the bottom of the food chain
Speaker 5: it really really needed it. We were all like, sure, yes,
Speaker 5: that's better than Medicaid, let's help those people out. Well,
Speaker 5: during COVID, the Democrats and the Democrats only crafted the
Speaker 5: American Rescue Plan in twenty twenty and.
Speaker 4: As part of that, they blew off.
Speaker 5: The income limits at the upper end of Obamacare, so
Speaker 5: people making over four hundred percent of the poverty level
Speaker 5: would now be eligible for subsidies. And it's those subsidies
Speaker 5: that they wrote in that we're going to expire in
Speaker 5: two years. So in twenty twenty two they expired. They
Speaker 5: passed another continuing resolution with zero Republican votes. So let's
Speaker 5: go back. Let's just check the math. Obamacare zero Republican votes,
Speaker 5: American Rescue Plan zero Republican votes, the continuing resolution in
Speaker 5: twenty twenty two that sunset those expanded Obamacare provisions until
Speaker 5: today twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4: They expire at the end of this year.
Speaker 5: The Democrat wrote those bills. The Democrats passed those bills
Speaker 5: without a single Republican vote, And now they are trying
Speaker 5: to tell you that the fact the subsidies are going
Speaker 5: to run out in a bill that they wrote to
Speaker 5: amend other bills that they wrote is somehow the Republican's
Speaker 5: fault is just I mean, y'all, they have stones the
Speaker 5: size of candloafs on this. And what's super frustrating is
Speaker 5: that there's too many in the news media who haven't
Speaker 5: bothered to look anything up.
Speaker 4: It took me four seconds to look this up this morning,
Speaker 4: four seconds. I didn't even have to use chat. It
Speaker 4: was that easy. And yet they're out there John Hickenlooper,
Speaker 4: Michael Bennett.
Speaker 5: Britney Patterson, Joe Na Goose, Chason Crow, They're all out
Speaker 5: there telling you that this was of Republican creation. I
Speaker 5: don't even understand that. I mean, that's just that is literally,
Speaker 5: that is just absolutely denying reality on every sense of
Speaker 5: the word.
Speaker 4: Maybe this is what they've been doing.
Speaker 5: Maybe this did not occur to me until right now.
Speaker 5: Maybe the entire trans mania thing where they've been telling
Speaker 5: us that if a man decides today that he is
Speaker 5: a woman and puts earrings on, he should be able
Speaker 5: to walk into a ladies room because he's a woman.
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe this is just an effort to get them to.
Speaker 5: Undermine reality in such a way that when they decide
Speaker 5: to come out and create a yarn out of whole
Speaker 5: cloth that is completely fabricated, has no basis in reality,
Speaker 5: they can sell it with a straight face, because hey,
Speaker 5: they've convinced us that men can declare their women and
Speaker 5: walk into.
Speaker 4: A locker room. It's amazing, I mean really amazing.
Speaker 5: So in any case, the shutdown is over, there will
Speaker 5: be a vote in the Senate.
Speaker 4: It will not be a vote in the House. There
Speaker 4: will be a.
Speaker 5: Vote in the Senate to expend, extend those expanded subsidies
Speaker 5: that the Democrats rode into a bill to sunset.
Speaker 4: Now, what we should be doing, what the argument should.
Speaker 5: Be about, is to how to just reshape Obamacare in
Speaker 5: such a way, because you know what, there are provisions
Speaker 5: and Obamacare that are very popular. The pre existing conditions
Speaker 5: one that's not going away, you guys, It's just not
Speaker 5: going away.
Speaker 4: But what we need to do is make assurance work
Speaker 4: for people and then start to do things to drive
Speaker 4: down the actual cost of healthcare.
Speaker 5: Things like imagine if you guys knew how much stuff
Speaker 5: was going on behind the scenes, Like and I'm talking
Speaker 5: about hospital billing and things like that.
Speaker 4: There are ways to bring.
Speaker 5: Certain aspects of the hospital industry in check. Now, I
Speaker 5: just want to I'm just gonna say this. I don't
Speaker 5: want to go to a hospital that looks like a
Speaker 5: Soviet Soviet polit bureau, right, Like I don't want to
Speaker 5: go to a hospital that feels like I'm in prison,
Speaker 5: But have you been to some of the new hospitals
Speaker 5: that they built with the marble tile and the ridiculous
Speaker 5: fixtures in the bathrooms, And I mean they're nicer than
Speaker 5: some hotels.
Speaker 4: Because there's no incentive anywhere in our entire healthcare system
Speaker 4: for anyone to try and save money.
Speaker 5: Insurance companies have negotiated their rates, they're getting the premiums,
Speaker 5: they've done the math, they believe, and it's demonstrated that
Speaker 5: they have.
Speaker 4: A pretty good deal right now, a really good deal.
Speaker 5: Because for most of you, most of you in this
Speaker 5: listening audience, maybe you got a five thousand dollars deductible
Speaker 5: per person, maybe you got a ten thousand dollars deductible
Speaker 5: per person. Plus you're paying what, I don't know, a thousand,
Speaker 5: couple thousand a month the insurance company. For most people,
Speaker 5: you're never gonna make any claims. You're just gonna give
Speaker 5: them money all year long for coverage that you're not
Speaker 5: gonna use, So they have no incentive to control costs.
Speaker 5: The healthcare system has no incentive to control costs because
Speaker 5: between Medicare, Medicaid, and private insurance, they can pretty much
Speaker 5: cost shift around to make sure they're covering the most people,
Speaker 5: and they're putting the burden on the private insurance companies
Speaker 5: because Medicare and Medicaid both underpay.
Speaker 4: It's just a fact.
Speaker 5: That's the other thing about a single payer system. If
Speaker 5: people understood if a doctor's office only takes Medicaid Medicare,
Speaker 5: I'm going we'll leave Medicaid for a further conversation later today,
Speaker 5: because the cuts that Governor Jared Polis is proposing to
Speaker 5: Medicaid are heartless. And this is from someone who thinks
Speaker 5: Medicaid needs to be scaled back. But nonetheless, Medicare, Medicare
Speaker 5: doesn't pay market rates for most things, and some very
Speaker 5: common things, they're actually losing money every time they deliver
Speaker 5: that service.
Speaker 4: So if we go to single payer, there.
Speaker 5: Won't be any private insurance really to shift the cost to.
Speaker 4: Right. That's the thing people don't understand.
Speaker 5: The consumer who has insurance, the consumer is going to
Speaker 5: go to the doctor and the doctor says, look, you
Speaker 5: know what, we're pretty sure it's this, but we could
Speaker 5: do this test, this test, this test, and this test
Speaker 5: and just make sure and the consumer who's going to
Speaker 5: pay a copay for that visit goes sure do it.
Speaker 5: It's fine because they have no incentive to say, do
Speaker 5: I really need all that? How sure are you that
Speaker 5: I just have this simple illness that can be treated
Speaker 5: with antibiotics. So there's no incentive in any part of
Speaker 5: this three legged stool for anybody to try and save money.
Speaker 4: That is unacceptable. I am I am going.
Speaker 5: I've been thinking about this a lot, and I want
Speaker 5: to ask you guys a question if you were if
Speaker 5: you had an insurance plan that was just like this,
Speaker 5: like just hear me out right. So you find out
Speaker 5: you need a hit replacement because you went to reach
Speaker 5: in revolution too late and it was too late to
Speaker 5: save you.
Speaker 4: But you need a hit replacement.
Speaker 5: And your insurance company looks at your policy and says, okay,
Speaker 5: you get fifteen thousand dollars for hit replacement, we're gonna
Speaker 5: write you a check for fifteen grand. Anything over that
Speaker 5: you're on your own. Anything below that you can keep, well, that's.
Speaker 4: Quite the incentive.
Speaker 5: So then you start calling around to private medical centers
Speaker 5: around the air, surgical centers, things like that. Maybe there's
Speaker 5: a website, a clearing house where people can post their
Speaker 5: prices and try and earn your business. You can have
Speaker 5: a robust system of reviews, and every year you can
Speaker 5: make a report on who had more complaints or more
Speaker 5: bad outcomes, so people can make a decision based on
Speaker 5: price and quality. Now, obviously this is not going to
Speaker 5: work for emergency care. That is a completely different category.
Speaker 5: But just doing what I'm saying right now injects free
Speaker 5: market into the.
Speaker 4: System where none exists.
Speaker 5: Now, strip out as many middleman as you can, and
Speaker 5: everything gets a million times cheaper. I've learned this from
Speaker 5: working with Pinnacle Advanced Primary Care. Their pricing is so
Speaker 5: much lower because they don't deal.
Speaker 4: With any of that crap.
Speaker 5: We've got to do something because what we've got now
Speaker 5: isn't working. But the choice between Obamacare and what we
Speaker 5: used to have as the only two choices is not
Speaker 5: where we need to start the conversation. When we get back,
Speaker 5: Let's talk for a minute about I didn't mean to
Speaker 5: go in that whole other direction, but I do want
Speaker 5: to talk about who really demanded the shutdown. It certainly
Speaker 5: wasn't the people on the snap. I do want to
Speaker 5: get this in really quickly because there's an opinion piece
Speaker 5: by a guy named Barton SWAYM Barton Sway he's a
Speaker 5: writs for the General, has a book reviewer, and then
Speaker 5: he's been got an editorial page right in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 5: and now he's got a weekly column on politics and
Speaker 5: culture at the Wall Street Journal. And in his column
Speaker 5: he writes about what caused the government shutdown, And yes,
Speaker 5: the biggest thing that was talked about was, of course
Speaker 5: the extension of the expanded ACA credits. But in this
Speaker 5: column he points out something very, very different. And I'm
Speaker 5: just going to share it, this one little paragraph.
Speaker 4: So why did the democra let's do it.
Speaker 5: From the beginning of the dispute, everyone seems to have
Speaker 5: understood that mister Schumer, Chuck Schumer, forced to shut down
Speaker 5: because he needed to show his states progressive voters that
Speaker 5: he could take it to mister Trump and so avoid
Speaker 5: a primary challenge from the left, perhaps from Representative Alexandria
Speaker 5: Acossio Cortes. The Senate leader's Democratic colleagues went around with
Speaker 5: a shutdown for a parallel reason.
Speaker 4: The whole stunt.
Speaker 5: Quote was about Trump's authuitarianism, wrote as Recline of The
Speaker 5: New York Times on Monday, it was about showing their
Speaker 5: base and themselves that they.
Speaker 4: Could fight back.
Speaker 5: Jack Blanchard of Politico observed similarly, Democrats achieve their a
Speaker 5: primary political objective, showing a furious base that they can
Speaker 5: actually work together effectively and are prepared to fight with
Speaker 5: every tool at their disposal.
Speaker 4: It was all for show, literally, But what or.
Speaker 5: Who is that base to which miss Sewr's client and
Speaker 5: Blanchard refer. Poke around and you'll find it consists mainly
Speaker 5: of cash flush foundations.
Speaker 4: Unions and activist groups.
Speaker 5: The ACLU, the Sunrise Movement and other environmental and climate groups,
Speaker 5: Planned Parenthood and other abortion rights outfits.
Speaker 4: An array of.
Speaker 5: Immigrant rights organizations, some of them so radical as to
Speaker 5: almost be insurrectionist, the American Federation of Teachers and the
Speaker 5: National Education Association, the Southern Poverty Law Center, Black Lives
Speaker 5: Matter and other racial justice organization, the Human Rights Campaign
Speaker 5: and assorted LGBTQ activist groups.
Speaker 4: Scores of foreign.
Speaker 5: Connected, Palestinian rights and otherwise anti Zionist organizations, the George
Speaker 5: Soros funded network known as the Opens Foundations, Open Society Foundations,
Speaker 5: and on and on, and then he goes on to
Speaker 5: talk about and bemoan the fact. And I got to
Speaker 5: tell you when I was reading this, John Caldera. If
Speaker 5: you're listening, I thought of you when I read this,
Speaker 5: because John Over at the Independence Institute.
Speaker 4: One of the things, one of the drums he.
Speaker 5: Has been banging the longest and the loudest, is that
Speaker 5: the right in Colorado not only doesn't understand and appreciate
Speaker 5: the infrastructure that the left in Colorado built, as laid
Speaker 5: out by the Blueprint, the book that clearly demonstrated how
Speaker 5: cholera or how Democrats took over Colorado, and not only
Speaker 5: do they not understand it, they've done nothing to build
Speaker 5: a similar apparatus on the right.
Speaker 4: Well, mister Swain.
Speaker 5: Says exactly the same thing. This ganglion, he says, has
Speaker 5: no counterpart on the right. Republican office holders frequently dance
Speaker 5: to the tunes of nut job primary voters, and many
Speaker 5: have an unnatural fear of both online right wing mobs
Speaker 5: and mister Trump, which has its own problems. But the
Speaker 5: Heritage Foundation, the Coke Network, and Turning Point USA have
Speaker 5: nothing like the influence over elected Republicans that left wing
Speaker 5: nonprofits have over their Democratic colleagues. Harry Reid, when he
Speaker 5: led Senate Democrats in the twenty ten delivered many a
Speaker 5: diatribe about the Koch brothers supposed hold on the Republican Party,
Speaker 5: and in twenty sixteen, New Yorker's Jane Mayer published a
Speaker 5: fat book making the same allegation, even as the GOP
Speaker 5: drifted away from the Koch's libertarian doctrines. It's called projection,
Speaker 5: and this is why Democrats keep winning.
Speaker 4: And the fact that I think for.
Speaker 5: More people on the left, although I know more and
Speaker 5: more people on the right that fall into this camp.
Speaker 5: And I think this is a horrible camp to be in,
Speaker 5: by the way.
Speaker 4: I truly do.
Speaker 5: People who live die and brief politics as it is.
Speaker 5: It is, you know, like get in my veins kind
Speaker 5: of people. They can't separate life from politics.
Speaker 4: They believe it is one and the same. Politics is
Speaker 4: our God, and politicians are their idols. Right.
Speaker 5: It is absolutely nuts that people get that way. But
Speaker 5: Democrats are much better at that than Republicans are. And
Speaker 5: that's why they keep winning. That's why the Teachers Union
Speaker 5: keeps winning, because they're relentless.
Speaker 4: We all have lives to lit.
Speaker 5: We all want to hang out with our families and
Speaker 5: our friends and do things like you know, hang.
Speaker 4: Out and go camping or whatever it is.
Speaker 5: We do, but for the people that eat, live, and
Speaker 5: breathe politics, they never ever ever turn it off. There
Speaker 5: are more of those people on the left than there
Speaker 5: is on the right, although again the right has been gaining.
Speaker 5: I actually think it's super sad, super super sad.
Speaker 4: I'm a person of faith.
Speaker 5: I believe in God, and when I see the way
Speaker 5: that politicians on the left and the right are elevated
Speaker 5: into some kind of small g godlike status, oh makes
Speaker 5: me sick to my stomach. Because politics, says it's currently practiced,
Speaker 5: is disgusting and we should all do our dead level
Speaker 5: best to just scrape it off whenever we can and
Speaker 5: go about our daily lives. This, by the way, this
Speaker 5: column is and he doesn't make this point, but it's
Speaker 5: absolutely this point. This is why Democrats freaked out when
Speaker 5: the Aid to USAID was gone, because so much of
Speaker 5: our tax dollars were being sent to causes that then
Speaker 5: turned around and supported Democrats.
Speaker 4: It's genius.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 5: I gotta when we get back, I gotta say something
Speaker 5: really positive. And oddly I find myself in agreement with
Speaker 5: Kyle Clark. Weird, Anthony, Could I have you bring up
Speaker 5: my audio really fast, because it's not often that I
Speaker 5: can find common ground with my fellow traveler Kyle Clark.
Speaker 5: But this morning I woke up and I knew that
Speaker 5: when they seated the new representative from Arizona, and I
Speaker 5: can't remember her name, nor do I care to. She
Speaker 5: just got sworn in into office as soon as they
Speaker 5: reopened the government and she is the last signatory on
Speaker 5: a movement to release the Epstein files. And what that
Speaker 5: will do. This petition will allow them to go over
Speaker 5: the Speaker of the House and demand a vote on
Speaker 5: the floor of the House of Representatives to release all
Speaker 5: of the stuff that's related to the Epstein files. And
Speaker 5: they finally got there. I think they had to have
Speaker 5: two hundred and eighteen. Four of those are Republicans. One
Speaker 5: of those is Lauren Bobert. And I'm gonna let my
Speaker 5: new best friend Kyle tell you what I agree with
Speaker 5: him about.
Speaker 7: It sure looks like Congresswoman Lauren Bobert did a brave
Speaker 7: thing today. Few people in politics are more polarizing. But
Speaker 7: put politics aside and consider what is being reported by
Speaker 7: The New York Times, CNN and others that President Trump
Speaker 7: directly pressured Bobert to help him stop the release of
Speaker 7: the Epstein files by pulling her support off a congressional
Speaker 7: petition and sinking that effort.
Speaker 8: Reports say the Trump.
Speaker 7: White House also brought Bobert into the Situation Room for
Speaker 7: a meeting with the Attorney General and the FBI Director,
Speaker 7: who we should note are accused of using the Justice
Speaker 7: Department to punish people who defy the president.
Speaker 4: Unlike themis, by all appearances, both did.
Speaker 7: Defy the president, despite the pressure and the reported threats,
Speaker 7: stood firm against the wishes of her party and her president.
Speaker 7: And not on a political or a policy issue where
Speaker 7: the public is going to hold a wide variety of views,
Speaker 7: but on the most basic of issues that should unite
Speaker 7: us all that pedophiles don't deserve protection, even pedophiles with
Speaker 7: powerful friends. Now, some of this is going to be speculation,
Speaker 7: because this apparent pressure campaign happened behind closed doors.
Speaker 2: But if we want courage out.
Speaker 7: Of political leaders, then citizens must be willing to recognize
Speaker 7: and appreciate courage from the politicians that they like the least.
Speaker 7: It certainly appears that every American who cares about kids
Speaker 7: and accountability and transparency owes Lauren Bobert their thanks, And.
Speaker 5: I agree wholeheartedly with This had a lot of criticism
Speaker 5: for Lauren, most recently over a stupid, idiotic Halloween costume.
Speaker 5: But I'm ready to put this whole Epstein thing to bed.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 5: You may have seen that the Democrat House or the
Speaker 5: Democrat Oversight Committee released three redacted emails that were designed
Speaker 5: to give the impression that Donald Trump had sexually abused
Speaker 5: young women via Jeffrey Epstein, and the reality is much different.
Speaker 5: This is what's so frustrating, because the Democrats know that
Speaker 5: a certain amount of low information voters are going to
Speaker 5: accept whatever they say, hook line and sinker. So what
Speaker 5: did the Republicans in the House Oversight Committee do in return? Well,
Speaker 5: they released all the emails, including the unredacted emails, which
Speaker 5: showed that the email that the Democrats had released reference
Speaker 5: to Virginia Guffrey. She is the now deceased woman who
Speaker 5: started the whole ball rolling on trying to hold Jeffrey
Speaker 5: Epstein in his ILK accountable.
Speaker 4: She has since.
Speaker 5: Committed suicide, and in her sworn testimony in twenty sixteen
Speaker 5: and in her recently released book, she states clearly I
Speaker 5: never had sex with Donald Trump. He never even flirted
Speaker 5: with me. He could not have been Nicer in the
Speaker 5: Times that I was around him at mar A Lago,
Speaker 5: But the Democrats tried to create a fake narrative. Unfortunately,
Speaker 5: we all have the Internet, but there's enough low information
Speaker 5: voters out there that are going to think that's accurate.
Speaker 4: I can't wait for all of this to come out.
Speaker 5: I hope famous people and rich people get in a
Speaker 5: tremendous amount of shame and trouble.
Speaker 4: That's what I want. I want it. Am I going
Speaker 4: to be satisfied?
Speaker 5: Absolutely not, because there's been far too much time for
Speaker 5: far too many people with far too many fingers to
Speaker 5: go through this. And if there was anything, anything, any
Speaker 5: kind of smoking gun that implicated Donald Trump, we would
Speaker 5: have had that years ago when the Democrats had all
Speaker 5: this information under their control.
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Speaker 5: You know, normally I would tell a guest that was
Speaker 5: coming on the show, hey, you have to do this
Speaker 5: radio thing first. But my next guest understands doing the
Speaker 5: radio thing first. Because Wendy Korea. She's a writer, a yogi.
Speaker 5: She's worked in film and television, multimedia and music and
Speaker 5: as a radio DJ in Aspen and now lives here
Speaker 5: in Denver.
Speaker 4: And she's written a memoir.
Speaker 5: I usually don't read memoir I don't know why, I
Speaker 5: just don't.
Speaker 4: But I got this and I.
Speaker 5: Got the pitch, and I said, ooh, a fellow radio traveler,
Speaker 5: I would love to talk about it and her new
Speaker 5: memorir My Pretty Baby is fantastic.
Speaker 4: And Wendy Korea, welcome to the show.
Speaker 9: Thank you, Mandy. It is awesome to be here. I'm
Speaker 9: so excited to talk with you today.
Speaker 5: So I always like to ask a question like this,
Speaker 5: when what made you decide?
Speaker 4: You know what? I got a story to tell them
Speaker 4: to write a book.
Speaker 9: Well, I realized that My Pretty Baby is an autopsy
Speaker 9: of my family. I peeled apart the layers of intergenerational
Speaker 9: and childhood trauma. Family dysfunction, family secrets, alcoholism, addiction, and
Speaker 9: I found healing through Buddhism, meditation, yoga, sobriety, music, psychotherapy,
Speaker 9: and Native American spirituality. And along the way I had
Speaker 9: incredible encounters with hans like Ringo Starr and Joni Mitchell
Speaker 9: and Hunter S. Thompson. And My Pretty Baby is about resilience,
Speaker 9: recovery and creating your own chosen family when the one
Speaker 9: that you had is broken.
Speaker 4: I love the part about Hunter S.
Speaker 5: Thompson, and we all know he was a fixture in
Speaker 5: Aspen for many, many years. Tell me about that relationship.
Speaker 5: Tell the listeners about that relationship and how it came about.
Speaker 9: Well, I had been in Los Angeles for many years,
Speaker 9: and I was in the music industry, as you said,
Speaker 9: I was in film and so on. And I left
Speaker 9: Los Angeles for a job as a DJ on KSPNFM
Speaker 9: Roaring Fork Radio, and my program manager asked me if
Speaker 9: I knew who Hunter S. Thompson was, and I said, oh,
Speaker 9: I've read articles of his Enrolling Stone Magazine, and isn't
Speaker 9: he a character in the Doonesbury cartoons? But I didn't
Speaker 9: know a whole lot more than that. And sure enough,
Speaker 9: the first week you know, and of course, as a
Speaker 9: newbie DJ, I had the ungodly hour of two am
Speaker 9: to six am. Of course, so in my first week
Speaker 9: at four in the morning, I you know, answered the phone,
Speaker 9: good morning, Wendy Moore here on KSPNFM, Roaring Fork Radio,
Speaker 9: and here comes the voice. Yeah, can you play me
Speaker 9: some warrens Eyvon Lawyers, guns and money? And I played
Speaker 9: Warren zevon for A Hunter for many more times thereafter
Speaker 9: a few weeks later, I actually met Hunter and he
Speaker 9: asked me if I wanted to be his assistant. So
Speaker 9: I was his assistant as well as being a DJ
Speaker 9: on KSPNFM. And by that time, oddly enough, I was sober.
Speaker 9: I had quit drinking, I had quit smoking, I had
Speaker 9: quit it all. And you know, my years in working
Speaker 9: for Geffen Records and A and M Records in Los
Speaker 9: Angeles finally caught up with me and it was time
Speaker 9: to let it all go.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 9: And although it was just a professional relationship with Hunter,
Speaker 9: I was his assistant there you know, he uh decidedly
Speaker 9: was not sober and he was doing it all and
Speaker 9: I was right in front of me, and in restaurants
Speaker 9: where we would go, he would you know, just unflinchingly
Speaker 9: snort lines of cocaine. And so it was an incredible
Speaker 9: experience because underneath that grufphic stereor underneath that facade of
Speaker 9: you know, his notorious habits, there was really a vulnerable
Speaker 9: and very soft center to Hunter, and that was the
Speaker 9: part that I connected to. And he was such a
Speaker 9: unique human being despite his notorious reputation. He was kind
Speaker 9: to me, and he was generous with me, and he
Speaker 9: really appreciated my work ethic and he erred back to
Speaker 9: me my self worth and my loveability. And that was
Speaker 9: why I in the book My Pretty Baby, I talk
Speaker 9: about that experience and why I talk about my experiences
Speaker 9: hanging out with Joni Mitchell and meeting ringo stars because
Speaker 9: these larger than life celebrities were so kind and loving
Speaker 9: to me. And the message really is that you just
Speaker 9: never know how a simple act of kindness to another
Speaker 9: human being is going to unpack them for life.
Speaker 5: Do you think that your tumultuous family dynamic perhaps made
Speaker 5: you better suited to deal with the tumult of Hunter
Speaker 5: s Thompson, or or even the music scene when you
Speaker 5: were there? You know, I think that if you come
Speaker 5: from a uh we'll call it a leave it to
Speaker 5: Beaver background, right, those those perfect nuclear families. I think
Speaker 5: that that the excesses of that age may have seemed
Speaker 5: too much. But because you didn't have that cleaver kind
Speaker 5: of family growing up, do you think maybe you were
Speaker 5: better equipped somehow.
Speaker 9: You know, that's a really good question, and I never
Speaker 9: thought of it, but you're absolutely right. Of course, I
Speaker 9: also had a degree in psychology and a degree in theater,
Speaker 9: and I always thought that my degree in psychology helped
Speaker 9: me to deal with, you know, the likes of all
Speaker 9: the musicians that I met working for A and M
Speaker 9: Records and Kevin Records. And I was used to people's
Speaker 9: access excesses because my stepfather was an alcoholic, and so
Speaker 9: I did have experience with that. And you know, it's
Speaker 9: very interesting as you read my book, you'll you'll learn
Speaker 9: that my mother always would ask me to look at
Speaker 9: my stepfather's good side, which of course he had, and
Speaker 9: he had a good side, and he could have he
Speaker 9: could be kind, and he could be generous, but he
Speaker 9: was also an alcoholic, and he was mentally ill, and
Speaker 9: he was violent. So I had been trained, literally since
Speaker 9: growing up to always look at people's good sites, even
Speaker 9: though they were notoriously high or drunk.
Speaker 5: The book is fantastic. It's an easy read. It is
Speaker 5: I think I read it. I know I read it
Speaker 5: in one sitting. It's just a really interesting story. And
Speaker 5: one of the things I said this to Wendy off
Speaker 5: the air. When you live in the public eye, even
Speaker 5: if you are a DJ in Aspen or you're working
Speaker 5: in movies and television, there's this perception that exists that
Speaker 5: you have led this charm life and you've never had
Speaker 5: a challenge, and you've never had difficulty. And it's memoirs
Speaker 5: like this that I think help other people who have
Speaker 5: had similar difficulties, because gosh, I hate to say it, Wendy,
Speaker 5: and I'm sure you've had people tell you this. Your
Speaker 5: story is probably a lot like other people's stories, right
Speaker 5: in the sense that you had those challenges growing up,
Speaker 5: and yet you went on to have this absolutely fantastic life.
Speaker 5: It seems, I mean, from the outside looking.
Speaker 9: In, absolutely And that's why I one of the reasons
Speaker 9: why I wrote it, because I have friends that I've
Speaker 9: known for thirty years who are reading the book now
Speaker 9: and saying, oh my god, I had no idea that
Speaker 9: you had gone through this and gone through that. And
Speaker 9: originally I wrote My Pretty Baby because I realized that
Speaker 9: my family's dysfunction and secrets had written my biography and
Speaker 9: hince my biology, and I wanted to rewrite my story
Speaker 9: and choose my own happy ending. But as I was
Speaker 9: writing it, as you said, I realized, more than just
Speaker 9: my story, this is about how millions of us Carrie
Speaker 9: wounds that science now shows rewires our biology and impacts
Speaker 9: our health and relationships for life. So as I was
Speaker 9: writing it, I realized, this is a call to action.
Speaker 9: I want us Andy to be able to have these
Speaker 9: conversations on a and openly without shame, without guilt, because
Speaker 9: I believe this is how we're going to heal society.
Speaker 9: And fortunately for me, as I was reading writing my book,
Speaker 9: I was reading all of the latest research by the
Speaker 9: likes of doctor Gabor Mattey, who wrote The Myth of Normal,
Speaker 9: and doctor Bessel vander Kolk, who wrote The Body Keep Score,
Speaker 9: and realized, oh my gosh, all of this latest research
Speaker 9: is showing that about sixty one to sixty four percent
Speaker 9: of adults have at least one adverse childhood experience, and
Speaker 9: the listeners can go online and google adverse childhood experiences quiz.
Speaker 9: It's ten questions. You can take the quiz to see
Speaker 9: what number you have. And now we know that so
Speaker 9: many people carry trauma from their childhood, and we know
Speaker 9: now that it can increase your risk for depression, for anxiety,
Speaker 9: for rage, for chronic diseases.
Speaker 4: And if you have a score of six or more.
Speaker 9: Without seeking some kind of help and healing, your life
Speaker 9: expectancy can be affected. Now I have a score of
Speaker 9: seven out of ten. But the good news is that
Speaker 9: all of this research shows and is proving that the
Speaker 9: damage can be reversed with the very same modalities that
Speaker 9: I intuitively practice for the past forty five years. And
Speaker 9: so that is why my Pretty Baby is like a
Speaker 9: guidebook to other people who may not know how to
Speaker 9: begin or where to begin. And I hope that it
Speaker 9: inspires them to look at all of the things that
Speaker 9: I did to heal myself and maybe they could just
Speaker 9: choose one and start there, because it turns out all
Speaker 9: the things that I try, like meditation and spirituality and
Speaker 9: yoga of course sobriety when needed, and all the somatic
Speaker 9: modalities like massage, yoga, movement, hiking, dance, meditation we know
Speaker 9: are very healing, and in psychotherapy one of the most
Speaker 9: important modalities for processing trauma is called emdr I movement
Speaker 9: desensitation training. So I hope that the listeners, if you're
Speaker 9: just beginning to heal, you know this is good information.
Speaker 9: This is a call to action for us to have
Speaker 9: these conversations and for us to heal, and perhaps for
Speaker 9: you to be the cycle breaker in your family.
Speaker 4: Love that.
Speaker 5: The book is My Pretty Baby. The author is Wendy Korea. Wendy,
Speaker 5: thank you so much for writing, Thank you so much
Speaker 5: for sharing your story, and thanks so much for joining
Speaker 5: us today.
Speaker 9: Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate having
Speaker 9: this voice for my pretty Baby.
Speaker 4: Thank you. Thanks Wendy.
Speaker 5: You can find a link to Wendy's website and where
Speaker 5: you can.
Speaker 4: Buy her book. It's a great book.
Speaker 5: I get a lot of these types of offers, and I thought, Okay,
Speaker 5: you know what, I'm gonna read this.
Speaker 4: It's really good.
Speaker 5: May not be your cup of tea, maybe your strategies
Speaker 5: or difference. Maybe you're not one of those people who
Speaker 5: like strategies.
Speaker 4: I just felt it was.
Speaker 5: I've always believed this, this is kind of interesting. I
Speaker 5: think anyway, I'd like your opinion listener. This is just
Speaker 5: one of the things I think about in life. I
Speaker 5: think that when you are looking for a long term mate,
Speaker 5: in many ways, it works best if you have someone
Speaker 5: in your life that understands your trauma, because perhaps they
Speaker 5: had a similar trauma growing up.
Speaker 4: Now, trauma is.
Speaker 5: One of those words where to one person's trauma, it
Speaker 5: could be, oh, I was sexually abused by my father
Speaker 5: and made pregnant when I was twelve years old.
Speaker 4: That's horrific trauma.
Speaker 5: But for most of us, trauma is in my case,
Speaker 5: my parents divorce. My father I mean, for lack of
Speaker 5: a better way to put it, deserted us when we
Speaker 5: were kids. I mean, there was money problems. They're just
Speaker 5: kind of a disaster. That's my trauma. And I found
Speaker 5: a person who had a very similar kind of trauma
Speaker 5: in Chuck. Without going too deep, and it's not like
Speaker 5: we sit around and talk about our trauma, but I
Speaker 5: think having someone who can understand those family dynamics is
Speaker 5: a very easy way to have a very strong foundation.
Speaker 5: Is just being able to say, here's my crazy, what's yours.
Speaker 5: I'm curious if anybody else has ever found that you
Speaker 5: can text me at the common spir health text line
Speaker 5: at five six six nine.
Speaker 4: Oh what do you ay?
Speaker 9: Ron?
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this.
Speaker 5: Because I think you and your lovely wife, you guys
Speaker 5: have such a just a solid, sweet.
Speaker 4: Relationship, and I love that for you.
Speaker 5: What do you think is the biggest What is the
Speaker 5: foundational thing that holds you guys together?
Speaker 4: Hmm, that's a good question. I would say.
Speaker 6: I know it's really kind of a cop out, but
Speaker 6: we laugh all the time. I think there is so
Speaker 6: much all that is fantastic. I think there's so much
Speaker 6: humor tied into everything. We constantly give each other crap,
Speaker 6: we're just you know, poking little fun. But also we
Speaker 6: just laugh at the greatest things, whether it be a show,
Speaker 6: we're watching, a funny joke that we heard, whatever it is.
Speaker 6: I mean, half the time every day I at least
Speaker 6: get my first chuckle if I haven't already at replaying
Speaker 6: my dad joke from of the day when she hears
Speaker 6: me editing the show.
Speaker 4: So that always jumps starts things.
Speaker 6: But but I think the humor helps, you know, really
Speaker 6: relax things, and you know, lets you kind of take
Speaker 6: a step back and laugh at the stupidest things.
Speaker 4: So I think that sense of humor really helps a lot.
Speaker 5: See, Chuck makes me laugh more than any person I've
Speaker 5: ever been with inappropriately. Appropriately, the man makes me laugh.
Speaker 4: So I agree with that.
Speaker 5: And it's not like our foundation is like whoa, look,
Speaker 5: we have similar trauma. I mean our foundation we have
Speaker 5: very much shared values in the sense that we believe
Speaker 5: that family is incredibly important and we want to be
Speaker 5: phenomenal parents for our kids and phenomenal grandparents for our
Speaker 5: grandkids and those That's like our foundational premise I think.
Speaker 4: So, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I think it's kind of interesting. I'd like to know
Speaker 5: from you guys five six to six. And I know
Speaker 5: got bad news about John Fetterman and who knew that
Speaker 5: Fetterman was going to be the Democrat I learned to
Speaker 5: love who knew when I was making fun of his
Speaker 5: sweatshirt and in the shorts, which I'm still not happy about.
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna core whatever. It's fine.
Speaker 5: But he apparently was walking today and had a d FIBs.
Speaker 5: He has like a heart condition and he had a
Speaker 5: ventricular fibrillation flare up. He got dizzy, he fell down,
Speaker 5: and he smashed his face. So he's in the hospital
Speaker 5: in Pennsylvania. Guys, listen to what the comment is. From
Speaker 5: the official statement from John Fetterman's office, Senator Fetterman said,
Speaker 5: if you thought my face looked bad before, wait until
Speaker 5: you see it now.
Speaker 4: That's what he says.
Speaker 5: But I want to play something from an interview between
Speaker 5: John Fetterman and Cuomo on News Nation.
Speaker 4: Can I have my audio please, Anthony.
Speaker 5: This is Chris Promo and John Fetterman talking about the shutdown.
Speaker 6: What do you make of the argument that this was
Speaker 6: your only leverage and without this you're at the mercy
Speaker 6: of the Republicans and they don't want to cut costs.
Speaker 10: You know, it's like I refuse to use American you know,
Speaker 10: citizens that you know, food insecure, you know, not pay
Speaker 10: or military or they are not my leverage.
Speaker 4: Those are my fa my fellow my fellow.
Speaker 10: Citizens, you know, those are the ones that I defend,
Speaker 10: those ones that I fight for. You know, some of
Speaker 10: them are the most vulnerable ones. You know, I refuse
Speaker 10: to put them in the middle. And and just like
Speaker 10: I said, it's just like again, it's a fundamental betrayal
Speaker 10: of you know, what I think is our core party's values.
Speaker 9: I mean, what do you.
Speaker 4: Make on shut up? Chris I mean, I don't disagree
Speaker 4: with that.
Speaker 5: But someone went over to blue Sky, the liberal twitter,
Speaker 5: to see what they were saying about John Fetterman's recent situation.
Speaker 4: One guy, my name is aarm. He seems nice.
Speaker 5: On blue Sky he posted the headline Senator John Fetterman
Speaker 5: hospitalized in Pittsburgh after falling on his face and my
Speaker 5: name is aarm on blue Sky posted Damn, I hope
Speaker 5: the pavement is okay. This guy posted John Fetterman has
Speaker 5: the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever after falling.
Speaker 5: Fetterman is back in hospital, claiming he fell liar. He's
Speaker 5: spent a week doing a book tour. It wiped him out.
Speaker 5: He's not able to do his job. Fetterman suffers injuries
Speaker 5: to his face from a fall, hospitalize the hill tragically.
Speaker 4: He's expected to live. Karma is a bitch, isn't it.
Speaker 5: Fetterman looks like he's not getting enough oxygen to his brain.
Speaker 5: I could have told you that Fetterman is hospitalized from
Speaker 5: a fall. He's an a fib. Karma is a bitch.
Speaker 5: This is all from the left. By the way, he
Speaker 5: is a Democrat. But if you need to understand how
Speaker 5: the Democrats keep everyone on their ideological plantation. All you
Speaker 5: have to do is go look at those responses, because
Speaker 5: when you leave it, when you dare to express ideas
Speaker 5: that are not approved by the Democratic pollep Bureau, this
Speaker 5: is what happens. They turn on you like a pack
Speaker 5: of wolves and hope you die. But I mean, I'm sure,
Speaker 5: I'm sure they're normally they're very nice in real life, Mandy.
Speaker 5: That guy on the left sounds like the guy who
Speaker 5: commented pray for the bullet when Charlie Kirk got shot.
Speaker 5: Shaking my head, you know, in about an hour, I've
Speaker 5: got Paul Croley from City Cast and he writes for
Speaker 5: fifty two eighty magazine coming on. He did a story
Speaker 5: about do Better Denver, And when he interviewed me the
Speaker 5: first time, he interviewed me twice actually, And when he
Speaker 5: interviewed me the first time, it was fairly, fairly quickly
Speaker 5: after Charlie Kirk's death. And I know the prize does
Speaker 5: not involve a European river cruise. That is not we're
Speaker 5: not giving away. As a matter of fact, I'm glad
Speaker 5: you brought that up. I talked to Doug from Cruise
Speaker 5: Entry yesterday I have three cabins left, one to three
Speaker 5: for six people. So if you've been thinking about going
Speaker 5: on the Mandy Coddle Adventure next October, please go ahead
Speaker 5: and go to Mandy Connell Trip and do that. But
Speaker 5: it is not the prize tomorrow. We're not doing that. No,
Speaker 5: we are not doing that at all anyway. So one
Speaker 5: of the things that happened with the Charlie Kirk murder assassination,
Speaker 5: it was very sobering, and we talked. I talked about
Speaker 5: it because it was very upsetting. I mean I I
Speaker 5: was wrecked by that for a good few weeks. And
Speaker 5: part of it is the reality that doing the job
Speaker 5: that I do, if it was announced that I got
Speaker 5: hit by a truck tomorrow or I got murdered, there
Speaker 5: would be a certain percentage of the population in Denver
Speaker 5: that would actively celebrate that.
Speaker 4: There'd be a.
Speaker 5: Certain percentage of the population in other cities that I've
Speaker 5: been and that would actively celebrate that. And from my perspective,
Speaker 5: I mean, I've always been one of those people. I
Speaker 5: truly you can think about me whatever you want.
Speaker 4: I don't care.
Speaker 5: It doesn't make any difference to me what you think
Speaker 5: of me positively or negatively. And I'm not meaning to
Speaker 5: say I don't want you to be a fan of
Speaker 5: the show or I don't want you to listen, because
Speaker 5: it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: If it matters, I'm glad you're there.
Speaker 5: I'm appreciative of it, but that's not the most important
Speaker 5: thing in my life.
Speaker 4: But I cannot imagine.
Speaker 5: I saw a report today Jesse Jackson is in the hospital,
Speaker 5: and I was like, I'm not going to put that
Speaker 5: on the blog because I just don't care. I don't
Speaker 5: wish the man is I don't hope he dies. I
Speaker 5: just don't care one way or the other about Jesse
Speaker 5: Jackson's health. I hope for the sake of his family
Speaker 5: he recovers, but he's also an elderly man. But if
Speaker 5: it when Jesse Jackson dies, even though I think his
Speaker 5: politics many times have been flat out vile, I'm not
Speaker 5: gonna sit here and wish the guy dead. I don't
Speaker 5: understand that mentality. How bleak does your soul have.
Speaker 4: To be.
Speaker 5: To think it's necessary or appropriate to not only wish
Speaker 5: the death on another person, but then to talk about
Speaker 5: it on social media like it's something to be saluted.
Speaker 4: And the reality is is that it is saluted right.
Speaker 5: I mean, there's a large enough chunk on the left
Speaker 5: that celebrate the death or sickness or anyone they are
Speaker 5: disagree with. And now it's John Fetterman, which is super ironic.
Speaker 4: Mandy, I had.
Speaker 5: My first visit today with one of the psychotherapy practitioners
Speaker 5: Wendy was talking about. She was the most insightful, understanding,
Speaker 5: and helpful personal counselor I've ever had the privilege of visiting.
Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to my next visit Anonymous in Fort Collins.
Speaker 5: It's amazing what getting the right sort of help for
Speaker 5: whatever is ailing you mentally can can do. And I
Speaker 5: talked to people who, like I tried therapy, I didn't
Speaker 5: like it. Well, maybe you just didn't like the therapist
Speaker 5: that you had. I'm a big believer in therapy for
Speaker 5: you know those times when you're just kind of struggling along.
Speaker 5: Mandy's sitting here eating a can of deviled ham and
Speaker 5: wondering if it has nutmeg in it.
Speaker 4: Really, I mean, I think you can just unfurl.
Speaker 5: The little paper wrapper that comes around it. Is there
Speaker 5: only one brand of devil Ham? I mean, with the
Speaker 5: little devil on the outside, you know what I don't
Speaker 5: even remember the name of the brand. I don't like
Speaker 5: devil Haam. It seems like, why are you going to
Speaker 5: mess up perfectly good Ham by putting other stuff in it?
Speaker 5: So anyway, I don't even know where that was going.
Speaker 5: I want to talk for a second about James Comey's indictment.
Speaker 5: People on the left, which I find super ironic because
Speaker 5: none of them stepped up when the Justice Department was
Speaker 5: completely weaponized against the Trump administration and Republicans we know
Speaker 5: clearly now. But when Trump US Attorney Lindsay Halligan got
Speaker 5: an indictment against FBI director James Comy, everyone on the
Speaker 5: left jump to say, there's no evidence. The old prosecutor
Speaker 5: he declined to charge, he wasn't going to do it.
Speaker 5: There's nothing there, There's.
Speaker 4: No there there.
Speaker 5: This is just a politically motivated prosecution, which I also
Speaker 5: believe it is a politically motivated prosecution. But if there's
Speaker 5: no there there, then you don't have to worry about it, right.
Speaker 5: That's where we're told when they were going after Donald Trump.
Speaker 5: But unlike Donald Trump, where he was convicted of a
Speaker 5: crime with no victim, James Comy there's quite a bit
Speaker 5: of evidence because he is he's he's going to have
Speaker 5: to face these charges. He's facing charges now making false
Speaker 5: statements and obstructing Congress, something that I don't think anybody's
Speaker 5: ever been prosecuted about because they're all well connected players, right.
Speaker 5: So Kobe is asked to dismiss the indictment. In that
Speaker 5: meant that Lindsay Halligan had to bring out.
Speaker 4: The evidence, and she did.
Speaker 5: In her response to Comy's request to dismiss the charges.
Speaker 4: She really laid out the exhibits.
Speaker 5: She shared exhibits containing handwritten notes that Koby had written
Speaker 5: to himself and his dear friend, professional professor Daniel Richmond
Speaker 5: of Columbia Law School, who was then a special government employee.
Speaker 5: Halligan also produced emails from Comey's fake Gmail account that
Speaker 5: used the alias ride Hold Kneebar in order to get
Speaker 5: around saving messages and open message requests. Kobe's written statements
Speaker 5: make clear that he was collaborating with Richmond to leak
Speaker 5: stories to the New York Times.
Speaker 4: Reporter Michael Schmidt.
Speaker 5: The exhibits even reveal Richmond's pseudonym, Michael Garcia Coomy, had
Speaker 5: denied this conduct in sworn testimony before the Senate Judiciary
Speaker 5: commit By the way, everybody who came out swinging because
Speaker 5: Lindsay Halligan is hot and they didn't take her seriously
Speaker 5: because she's hot, they should pay attention to this. She's
Speaker 5: backed up the charges with evidence and evidence that clearly
Speaker 5: demonstrates he lied to Congress.
Speaker 4: So what happens next, we'll see. We shall see.
Speaker 5: But there's a great column from the Federalist with all
Speaker 5: of the details on that indictment that you can check out.
Speaker 5: Thank you text her it is Underwood devil to ham.
Speaker 5: This textter says, it's gross. I agree.
Speaker 4: Ham is one of those foods you really don't have
Speaker 4: to do anything too. You don't have to dress it up.
Speaker 5: You know how we have steak sauce for people who
Speaker 5: don't like meat. We don't have ham sauce. You know why,
Speaker 5: because everybody likes ham. I feel really sorry for observant Jews.
Speaker 5: You guys are getting completely ripped off when it comes
Speaker 5: to delicious pork, Like I don't know why God did
Speaker 5: that to you. I mean, I do know why. I
Speaker 5: believe anyway that the Jewish dietary restrictions were about safety
Speaker 5: when they were written. But we're so much better at
Speaker 5: creating delicious pork.
Speaker 4: It's so good, so good.
Speaker 5: We're gonna take a very quick time out when we
Speaker 5: get back. What do you think happened when California raised
Speaker 5: the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hour?
Speaker 4: What do you think? What do you think happened when they.
Speaker 5: Created a fast food Council with the power to further
Speaker 5: just increase wages by dictate every single year. What do
Speaker 5: you think happened in California? Now, if you're a regular
Speaker 5: listener to this audience, you already know what happened. But
Speaker 5: if you're new and not really well versed in economics,
Speaker 5: I got news for you next, and it's it's not
Speaker 5: that good. This is for Reason dot com and they
Speaker 5: did a little check up on California. In twenty twenty three,
Speaker 5: California adopted a law that raised the minimum wage to
Speaker 5: twenty bucks per hour. Yep, But they went further than that.
Speaker 5: They created a fast food Council with the power to
Speaker 5: further increase wages by dictate every year. Now, in case
Speaker 5: you're wondering, how could they do that, Well, they just
Speaker 5: created a new fake state minimum wage, but only for
Speaker 5: fast food restaurants. So how's that going?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 5: On April first of twenty twenty four, So just over
Speaker 5: a year ago, California raised its minimum wage from sixteen
Speaker 5: dollars to twenty dollars per hour for fast food workers
Speaker 5: employed a chains with more than sixty locations nationwide, and
Speaker 5: a recent research paper looked into the impact that that
Speaker 5: has had on fast food jobs. The authors initially calculate
Speaker 5: that employment in California's fast food sector declined by two
Speaker 5: point seven percent between September twenty third, twenty twenty three
Speaker 5: and September twenty twenty four relative to fast food employment
Speaker 5: elsewhere in the United States.
Speaker 4: Prior to the passage of this bill.
Speaker 5: The bill hiking the minimum wage food fast food employment
Speaker 5: was rising faster in the state than.
Speaker 4: Anywhere else in the country.
Speaker 5: Allowing for that and changes in the overall labor market,
Speaker 5: they estimated the real decline in California's fast food employment
Speaker 5: is about eighteen thousand lost jobs. That is a lot
Speaker 5: of a lot of opportunities that are gone for young
Speaker 5: people to get into the workforce. I was talking to
Speaker 5: a young man who has his first job, and of
Speaker 5: course he hates.
Speaker 4: It because he's working in fast food.
Speaker 5: And I said, look, this first job is just to
Speaker 5: teach you how to be responsible, is to teach you
Speaker 5: how to show up.
Speaker 4: It's to teach you to follow through on your commitments.
Speaker 5: It's to teach you how to deal with people that
Speaker 5: are not like you, people that may be mad, people
Speaker 5: that may be upset, to teach you all of these
Speaker 5: little skills. Fast food employment should not be a career
Speaker 5: unless your goal is to someday own a franchise of
Speaker 5: that establishment. I know multiple people that have come up
Speaker 5: to the McDonald's system and are now restaurant owners of
Speaker 5: multiple units. So I'm not down on fast food employment,
Speaker 5: but this is destroying it. According to a February twenty
Speaker 5: twenty five paper from the Berkeley Research Group, they found
Speaker 5: fast food sector lost ten thousand, seven hundred jobs between
Speaker 5: June twenty twenty three and June twenty twenty four. Now
Speaker 5: you have to know there was a run up to
Speaker 5: when this law was going to take effect. So in
Speaker 5: that time, fast food operators decided to automate. They were
Speaker 5: just going to automate, and that's what they've done. Now
Speaker 5: here's the real issue. The real issue is that that automation,
Speaker 5: once proven to be successful operating fine, people adapted to it.
Speaker 4: Easily.
Speaker 5: That is going to come to all other of the
Speaker 5: fast food establishments across the country, because why pay a
Speaker 5: human who may or may not show up when you
Speaker 5: don't have to. That's the harsh reality. Why pay people
Speaker 5: to do jobs that a robot can do. I think
Speaker 5: that's going to be a reckoning for a lot of people,
Speaker 5: and it's coming to fast food right now.
Speaker 4: Just remember, this is what they've done in Denver.
Speaker 5: This is why restaurants Tours are saying they will never
Speaker 5: open another restaurant in Denver again.
Speaker 4: This is what they've created.
Speaker 5: Somebody texted in about this and our news team looked
Speaker 5: into it. Tens of thousands of people in Wyoming are
Speaker 5: being affected by power outages across the state. Most of
Speaker 5: them are in central and northern Wyoming. The power went
Speaker 5: out around twelve forty five this afternoon. Large outages are
Speaker 5: also being reported in South Dakota, Montana, and Utah. On Facebook,
Speaker 5: Rocky Mountain Power said they estimated restoration time in Casper
Speaker 5: could be as late as nine to forty five PM.
Speaker 4: So we don't know why, but we do know what's out.
Speaker 5: Mandy, I see more adults than kids in fast food restaurants.
Speaker 5: I think it's just a function of fewer kids are
Speaker 5: in the workforce than they used to be, which I
Speaker 5: think is sad. You know, we keep telling my daughter,
Speaker 5: it's like, Okay, yeah, you got to get a job,
Speaker 5: and then she's like, well, i got a show coming up,
Speaker 5: I gotta play, I'm in, I got.
Speaker 4: This club, I got eh.
Speaker 5: So, yeah, there's a lot of adults working in fast food.
Speaker 5: Somebody texted this and Mandy Jewish dietary restrictions are about
Speaker 5: spiritual cleanliness.
Speaker 4: It's the original. You are what you eat. Pigs are dirty.
Speaker 5: Animals, shellfish or scavengers both will eat anything, but so
Speaker 5: will goats. And there's no prohibition against eating goats that
Speaker 5: I'm aware of. Goats will literally eat like your car
Speaker 5: if given the opportunity. Goats are kind of badass when
Speaker 5: you get right down to it.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't play. They'll eat anything.
Speaker 5: Cherry sauces ham soft blasphemy. Cherry sud never heard of
Speaker 5: anything so gross in my life. When we get back,
Speaker 5: Jared Police's proposed state budget needs discussion because he's right
Speaker 5: about one thing, the growth of medicaid is unsustainable, But
Speaker 5: the way he's trying to balance the budget and who
Speaker 5: is trying to balance the budget on Well, that's where
Speaker 5: we have a problem.
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Speaker 5: Welcome, We welcome to the third hour of the show.
Speaker 5: Coming up a bit later, we're going to talk to
Speaker 5: Paul Coroli. You might know him from City Cast or
Speaker 5: his writing for fifty two eighty magazine. He wrote an
Speaker 5: article about do Better Denver. I'm gonna chat with him
Speaker 5: at two thirty. In the meantime, though, we have selected
Speaker 5: our winners to come in and play with us tomorrow
Speaker 5: for the of the Jay Tournament. Ay, Rod, just to
Speaker 5: give you a wait, the turn the true We'll just
Speaker 5: hang on one second. Yeah, just turn that down for
Speaker 5: second because I want to explain to people how we chose,
Speaker 5: because I think this is people submitted their entries. A
Speaker 5: Rod made a spreadsheet which I'm holding right there. Yes,
Speaker 5: very good, and he handed it to me and said,
Speaker 5: read these and choose your top three and then we'll discuss,
Speaker 5: like if you choose something different which shows the same
Speaker 5: three piece. Yep, and we got really good entries, you guys,
Speaker 5: very good. Really, I really appreciate everyone who entered. Some
Speaker 5: of these are fantastic. I love the ones with puns,
Speaker 5: but the puns didn't get it at now. Our contestants
Speaker 5: for tomorrow's Tournament of the Day are Jerry Geyser, Patrick Johnson,
Speaker 5: and Jack Valen. Jerry said, Hey, Ron, I'm a CSU
Speaker 5: graduate mechanical engineering show off. I taught mathematics for seven
Speaker 5: years and I've worked in hundreds of different fields.
Speaker 4: Braggadocious.
Speaker 5: My family refers to me as the professor because I
Speaker 5: know everything well. I respect Mandy's intellect. I'm off and
Speaker 5: flabbergasted that it takes her so long to answer.
Speaker 4: Lol.
Speaker 5: We're very close to the same age, so she won't
Speaker 5: be able to pull the old age memory card. I'm
Speaker 5: looking forward to meeting her and showing the rest of
Speaker 5: the studio how weak they are for having been such
Speaker 5: easy cannon fodder for her.
Speaker 4: Love it.
Speaker 5: Yep, Mandy, this is from Patrick. Hello, a rod actually
Speaker 5: is how it starts. Did I ever mention that is
Speaker 5: really the radio show's producer that makes the show? Cayman's
Speaker 5: song that was fantastic, Patrick, I just gotta say well done. Sure,
Speaker 5: Mindy cow Bell sometimes pitches in, but producers, not the
Speaker 5: Matthew Broderick movie type, make the wheels roll. I would
Speaker 5: love to participate in the of the Day contest this
Speaker 5: Friday at two thirty somewhere in the bowels of the
Speaker 5: Tech Center for a variety of reasons. Now I'm gonna
Speaker 5: skip ahead because it's really long. In addition, I believe
Speaker 5: being able to be a formidable opponent to the Queen
Speaker 5: of the snappy comments. Being on a game show is
Speaker 5: on my bucket list. Well bucket list granted, Yeah, Patrick,
Speaker 5: you're gonna be on our cheesy game show and then
Speaker 5: Jack Valan.
Speaker 4: I'd love to join the fun and festivities tomorrow for
Speaker 4: of the Day. Why pick me?
Speaker 5: I'm smart, witty, and once took ninth place in a
Speaker 5: second Graate spelling me still my proudest academic moment. I
Speaker 5: also snagged runner up in a geography competition and was
Speaker 5: voted second most liked in my class. I have something
Speaker 5: for silver medals. Add in corporate Jeopardy title and some
Speaker 5: divorced Dad resilience and you've got yourself a strong contender,
Speaker 5: just looking for a win. Honestly, I just love the
Speaker 5: chance to do something different for once. I listen to
Speaker 5: you too every day. It'd be an absolute pleasure to
Speaker 5: sit down and have some fun and maybe even make
Speaker 5: a few new friendships.
Speaker 4: It's tough out here for a divorce.
Speaker 5: Dad, help a guy out and let me take a
Speaker 5: shot at.
Speaker 6: Of the Patrick, Jack and Jerry expect to call momentarily
Speaker 6: for all the details.
Speaker 5: There you go, there you go anyway, So I want
Speaker 5: to talk. I'm not going to spend a whole lot
Speaker 5: of time on this because we're sort of in the
Speaker 5: beginning of the wrangling about the budget process here in Colorado,
Speaker 5: and it's going to be a wrangle for sure, because
Speaker 5: we have a huge budget shortfall because we've overspent over
Speaker 5: the last few years and now those chickens have come
Speaker 5: home to roost.
Speaker 4: So Governor Jared.
Speaker 5: Polis proposed budget for the twenty twenty six twenty twenty
Speaker 5: seven year has already jowne sharp criticism, including on this
Speaker 5: show from Barb Kirkmeyer. She is part of the Joint
Speaker 5: Budget Committee. Why because he's going after medicaid spending and
Speaker 5: now here's the kicker, you guys, I agree that this
Speaker 5: must happen. Medicaid spending is out of control. We have
Speaker 5: expanded the number of people who are on Medicaid. We've
Speaker 5: expanded to allow people that frankly, the program was never
Speaker 5: designed for to be on Medicaid.
Speaker 4: Medicaid was designed.
Speaker 5: To help the poorest of the poor and the elderly,
Speaker 5: women and children primarily and elderly people, and that's what
Speaker 5: it's for. But instead of saying, you know what, maybe
Speaker 5: our Medicaid expansion is breaking us, which probably it might be,
Speaker 5: Paulus has cut money from a specific part of the
Speaker 5: Medicaid that is the rate reimbursements for providers in dental,
Speaker 5: behavioral health and services to children with disabilities.
Speaker 4: Now, he's right when.
Speaker 5: He says that Medicaid is the fastest growing portion of
Speaker 5: the budget, but he's wrong when he says we need
Speaker 5: to cut it by reimbursing doctors less.
Speaker 4: Why does that matter?
Speaker 5: Well, right now, medicare already underpays okay, and many many,
Speaker 5: many business or medical offices rely on private insurance to
Speaker 5: cover the gaps that Medicare doesn't pay for, and Medicaid
Speaker 5: generally pays less than Medicare as a matter of fact,
Speaker 5: Jared Pulis makes a point of saying, look, we pay
Speaker 5: eighty five percent of Medicare reimbursement rates when the national
Speaker 5: average is about seventy five percent.
Speaker 4: If you're a doctor's office in Colorado.
Speaker 5: It simply costs more to exist because you're in Colorado. Now,
Speaker 5: what happens when they reduce the Medicaid reimbursement rates is
Speaker 5: that doctors stop taking Medicaid patients.
Speaker 4: Maybe they'll continue seeing the patients.
Speaker 5: They already see, but they will not take any more
Speaker 5: new patients. And I want to tell you about an
Speaker 5: actual thing that happened to me in Florida when I
Speaker 5: used to say insurance a long time ago. One of
Speaker 5: our elderly clients called and said, my granddaughter's on Medicaid.
Speaker 5: She needs a pediatric neurologist, and we can't find one
Speaker 5: that takes Medicaid in the.
Speaker 4: Whole state of Florida.
Speaker 5: First of ALLCT pediatric neurology is already a highly specific specialty.
Speaker 5: We could not find a pediatric neurologist that would accept
Speaker 5: Medicaid within a three hundred mile diameter. They were willing
Speaker 5: to drive three hundred miles and could not find a
Speaker 5: pactric pediatric neurologist that accepted Medicaid. So what ends up
Speaker 5: happening is that people on Medicaid then lose access. They
Speaker 5: may have coverage, but if you can't get in to
Speaker 5: see a doctor, what good is that coverage. It's kind
Speaker 5: of like the national healthcare system in the UK. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you got coverage, you got free healthcare, but you can't
Speaker 5: get in to see a doctor. And God forbid, you
Speaker 5: need something simple like a hip replacement or something like that,
Speaker 5: you're you're not going to get it in a timely fashion.
Speaker 5: So a lot of people, Republicans and Democrats are already criticizing this.
Speaker 4: But here's what's interesting.
Speaker 5: Jared Polis has already said cutting reducing the number of
Speaker 5: people who are actually receiving benefits by contracting the Medicaid
Speaker 5: expansion off the table. You know why, because those people
Speaker 5: vote you know who doesn't vote as much the truly poor,
Speaker 5: that we need to protect Medicaid for.
Speaker 4: This is such a nakedly political move.
Speaker 5: Because he knows that people that are going to be
Speaker 5: the most effective are the least likely to have access
Speaker 5: to a bullhorn, to have access to media, and to
Speaker 5: go to the ballot box. It's really kind of gross
Speaker 5: when you get right down to.
Speaker 4: It, it's just gross. Ron de santist and Jared Polis
Speaker 4: are having a fight on x Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 5: It started when ron DeSantis was responding, or whoever runs
Speaker 5: Ronda Santis' account, was responding to someone saying, look, we
Speaker 5: can eliminate property taxes by legalizing marijuana in Florida and
Speaker 5: taxing it. So Ron de Santis responded to that by saying, well,
Speaker 5: that has not been the experience in Colorado. The tax
Speaker 5: revenue for marijuana sales has fallen dramatically in recent years,
Speaker 5: largely because imposing taxes makes the black.
Speaker 4: Market marijuana more economical.
Speaker 5: Hence why states like Colorado have seen an increase in
Speaker 5: the black market, not an elimination of it. So then
Speaker 5: Jared Polis decides to respond to that by saying Colorado
Speaker 5: has collected over three billion in marijuana tax revenue to
Speaker 5: pave roads, build schools, rec centers, add so much more,
Speaker 5: all while successfully cracking down on the underground market. Oh
Speaker 5: and we need to use fifty billion in taxpayer dollars
Speaker 5: to block access to freedom, But you do, you, to
Speaker 5: which Ron de Santis responded, and then dropped the microphone
Speaker 5: and walked away from the keyboard by saying, first of all,
Speaker 5: they got a screenshot of a headline Colorado backslides to
Speaker 5: forty third in national road condition rankings. And then Ron
Speaker 5: Desantra's comments, three billion over more than a decade is
Speaker 5: chump change. I've cut more than seven billion in taxes
Speaker 5: in half that time. But even then, seems like Colorado's
Speaker 5: roads have a lot to be desired. Should we call
Speaker 5: the governor's office and see if you need some alo
Speaker 5: for that sick burn?
Speaker 4: A rod sick.
Speaker 5: Burn sick burn anyway, So that's fun that's going on
Speaker 5: right now. I'm enjoying it immensely. I'll keep you updated
Speaker 5: on that. We have so many good videos on the
Speaker 5: blog today and we haven't really talked about.
Speaker 4: One of them is.
Speaker 5: Gabriel Landskog from the Avs. It's like the cutest thing ever.
Speaker 5: He's doing an interview with some hockey show right so
Speaker 5: they're live. He's doing an interview from his home and
Speaker 5: here come the kids. Hockey players are just like this.
Speaker 5: He's like, hey, babe, you want to be on cameras
Speaker 5: A little go goes. Yeah, he wants to get in
Speaker 5: the pool.
Speaker 6: They just there are not many more wholesome athletes in
Speaker 6: all of sports than Gabrie Landskog. He just scored his
Speaker 6: first regular season goal in three years after multiple years
Speaker 6: of rehab since he won the Cup. Well, it's so
Speaker 6: cool to see him awesome again, and no one deserves
Speaker 6: it better than him.
Speaker 5: And he's just cute to see him in dad mode
Speaker 5: and he does that whole dad mode thing. I need
Speaker 5: you guys to go outside and I'll be there in
Speaker 5: a minutely.
Speaker 4: He should go outside.
Speaker 6: He was asked about scoring that first goal in like
Speaker 6: three years in after the game the other day, and
Speaker 6: literally he was excited because he got to tell his
Speaker 6: kid the next morning about him scoring it because his
Speaker 6: kid kept asking like did you score? Like did you score?
Speaker 6: Kept having to tell the kid no. He's like, I
Speaker 6: just get to tell my kid, I did. I got
Speaker 6: a like come on, man, that's fantastics. I want to
Speaker 6: talk about this thing really quickly. I've got a guest
Speaker 6: coming up the next segment. But there's been a lot of.
Speaker 5: People paying attention to the new target ten four policy.
Speaker 4: Have you heard about this? A rod The ten four policy?
Speaker 5: The new policy that has been well, people are talking
Speaker 5: about it is this The new policy requires employees who
Speaker 5: are within ten feet of customers to smile, make eye contact, wave,
Speaker 5: and use friendly, approachable and welcoming body language.
Speaker 6: Don't they have to talk to them if they get
Speaker 6: a certain range as well?
Speaker 4: I think. But here's the thing, you guys, I'm weird.
Speaker 5: I worked in retail when I was fifteen years old
Speaker 5: at a TG and Y in my hometown. T Guy
Speaker 5: doesn't even exist anymore. It was like a like a
Speaker 5: Kmart or Walmart, the precursor for those.
Speaker 4: And this was literally on the wall of our break room.
Speaker 5: These same things, like make eye contact, smile it people,
Speaker 5: ask them how they're.
Speaker 4: Doing, be pleasant. You know what this is?
Speaker 6: This is the big middle finger to all the hiring
Speaker 6: managers at Target across the entire world, because this is
Speaker 6: them saying, you aren't hiring nice enough people.
Speaker 4: Now we have to force it because you're hiring jerks.
Speaker 5: I don't think so. I do think that a company's culture.
Speaker 5: When you say, look at Chick fil A, Chick fil
Speaker 5: A is the ultimate example, because you think every kid
Speaker 5: that goes to work at Chick fil A is just
Speaker 5: always upbeat and happy. But that's Chick fil A's culture
Speaker 5: that they have created and that they reinforce.
Speaker 6: No, Mandy, what happens is if they don't say my pleasure,
Speaker 6: they get swallowed up into the dark hole of hell
Speaker 6: by all the Chick fil A managers and then they
Speaker 6: are tortured for not saying my pleasure.
Speaker 4: I don't think that that is accurate.
Speaker 6: It's nobody they get.
Speaker 5: Sucked into the depths of hell working at Chick fil A.
Speaker 6: If they don't say my pleasure, they do they get kidnapped.
Speaker 6: You never seen the van. You never seen the van
Speaker 6: drive up and then take over.
Speaker 5: Nobody's getting kidnapped. I'm just saying I don't find any
Speaker 5: of this outrageous. And I will tell you that I'm
Speaker 5: so tired of cashiers at stores. Not necessarily a target,
Speaker 5: but I'm so sick of cashiers at stores that are like,
Speaker 5: you're bothering them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you come into their lane, like, oh.
Speaker 5: Am, I bothering you while you're clocked in and not
Speaker 5: wanting to do anything.
Speaker 4: Sorry about your luck, but forcing it. And I don't
Speaker 4: know that's going to work.
Speaker 5: Well, here's a psychological fact, Anthony, and this has been
Speaker 5: born out by study after study after study.
Speaker 4: Your mood will follow your actions.
Speaker 5: This is why the old adage fake it till you
Speaker 5: make it is one hundred percent accurate. If you pretend
Speaker 5: that you are in a good mood and that you're
Speaker 5: happy to see people, guess what happens. You start to
Speaker 5: be in a good mood, You start to be happy
Speaker 5: to see people. Your mood will follow your actions, even
Speaker 5: if your actions are initially completely fake.
Speaker 4: Are those customers more likely to go back?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 6: If the employees are pulling that fake nice on that.
Speaker 5: Don't you care if it's fake nice or not? But
Speaker 5: I mean you're fake nice to me.
Speaker 4: I'm never fake nice. I'm always real nice. I dare you.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, let's take a quick time out when
Speaker 5: we get back.
Speaker 4: Who's afraid of do Better? Denver?
Speaker 5: We'll do that next This week in fifty two to
Speaker 5: eighty magazine, there is a story called why is everyone
Speaker 5: so scared of Do Better?
Speaker 4: Denver? And the guy who created the story, Paul Coroli might.
Speaker 5: Know him from the City Cast podcast, is in the
Speaker 5: studio with me now and I have a chit chat
Speaker 5: about it.
Speaker 4: Paul, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 8: First of all, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 4: You know you've never invited me to be on your show.
Speaker 8: Well it's coming.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, I mean.
Speaker 5: I'm available, I'm nice, you know, I bathe on a
Speaker 5: somewhat regular basis.
Speaker 4: I'm just throwing it out there.
Speaker 8: What do you want to talk about? What do you
Speaker 8: want to come talk about?
Speaker 4: Let's talk about how I am.
Speaker 5: I am in a small, tiny way right now as
Speaker 5: a Rockies fan like Hope is starting to bring eternalim
Speaker 5: a little bit.
Speaker 8: You know this guy they hired, the Jonah Hill.
Speaker 5: I gotta tell you if I might be insulted that
Speaker 5: it was Joan Hill. Uh, well, don't you want somebody
Speaker 5: hot to play you?
Speaker 8: If you're very handsome man, very handsome man, Hollywood celebrity,
Speaker 8: very handsome man.
Speaker 5: No, no, Hollywood celebrity does not equal very handsome man.
Speaker 4: It equals guy.
Speaker 5: You can probably get laid because he's a Hollywood celebrity,
Speaker 5: but it is not equal handsome man.
Speaker 8: Here's the problem with this guy is Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 4: I know, I know, but some things.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 8: One of the Montfort kids watched the movie Moneyball a
Speaker 8: week ago and was like, can we get Billy Bean?
Speaker 4: How you're crushing my soul?
Speaker 8: I don't.
Speaker 5: Anyway, let's talk about what I invited you want to
Speaker 5: talk about. So, right after the Charlie Kirk assassination, Paul
Speaker 5: reached out to me and said, Hey, we're doing a
Speaker 5: story on do Better Denver.
Speaker 4: Now let me go back and.
Speaker 5: Give the history of what was going on at that
Speaker 5: very moment in time. Right after the murder of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 5: Do Better Denver went dark? Yes, and it went completely dark.
Speaker 5: And I reached out to her, and you know, was
Speaker 5: told through various channels that she had grown concerned because
Speaker 5: there had been some pretty significant threats. And I think
Speaker 5: anybody that is in that position, or even my position,
Speaker 5: you really start to look at is this all worth it.
Speaker 4: In the grand scheme of things?
Speaker 5: Okay, So there was a whole bunch of things going
Speaker 5: on around that, and you said, hey, I'm doing a
Speaker 5: story on do Better Denver because now all these people
Speaker 5: I posted it, other people on the right posted it.
Speaker 5: I am do Better Denver. That stemmed from an expos
Speaker 5: in the Denver Post that was trying.
Speaker 8: To expose preceded yes me about a week and a half.
Speaker 5: Yes, it was expose the creators and contributors to do
Speaker 5: better Denver, but they got the wrong people and that
Speaker 5: was super frustrating. So you call me and say, I'm
Speaker 5: writing a story on this. Where did this story come from?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 8: Oh boy, there's so much I want to say. I mean,
Speaker 8: let me give you one detail didn't find the story,
Speaker 8: and then I'll tell you the answer to your question.
Speaker 8: The night that they went dark, six hours prior, I
Speaker 8: had been dming with her right because I had been
Speaker 8: in touch with her for this story, and so I
Speaker 8: asked her, Hey, I noticed you haven't posted in like
Speaker 8: six days. What's up? Are you good?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 8: Is everything okay?
Speaker 4: Basically?
Speaker 8: And she was like, now my job just got busy.
Speaker 4: Ah okay, isn't that interesting?
Speaker 8: So the next morning I woke up to the account
Speaker 8: being dead. I was like, what she just told me this?
Speaker 8: And I was like, Oh, something's happening.
Speaker 4: She didn't tell me any of this.
Speaker 5: I got a third party from people that I know
Speaker 5: are connected.
Speaker 8: So can I name them?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 4: Can you name? Yeah?
Speaker 8: Well, he's my story Jimmy Sangenberger.
Speaker 4: Oh No, I didn't talk to Jimmy about it at all.
Speaker 4: I talked to Ryan.
Speaker 5: So I have different connections to her that I know
Speaker 5: from another source, if that, if that makes sense that
Speaker 5: I'm connected to radio.
Speaker 8: Here's the answer to your question. I got turned onto
Speaker 8: this account like two and a half years ago. It
Speaker 8: was like maybe an hour and a year and a
Speaker 8: half into City cast existence. I'm interested in this kind
Speaker 8: of thing, and I just I was in this mindset
Speaker 8: of like questioning what journalism is and like what it
Speaker 8: is for me as a person that talks like, I'm
Speaker 8: a human, I have a perspective, I have a bias. Yeah,
Speaker 8: so I'm like, Okay, here's some people call themselves a journalists,
Speaker 8: Like what are they doing? It caught my eye obviously
Speaker 8: because the nature of the content. It was like sleazy
Speaker 8: and kind of gross, you know, it's made. Sometimes it
Speaker 8: made me feel really bad. But I could see people
Speaker 8: talking to it and responding to it, and I was like,
Speaker 8: something's happening there. It's resonating and it's growing. And then
Speaker 8: Westward did a story and I just had been following
Speaker 8: it and so when that I Am do Better Denver
Speaker 8: moment happened. I actually watched the movie Spartacus.
Speaker 4: It's so good.
Speaker 8: Have you seen it since this happens?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 5: I haven't watched it since it happened, but I have
Speaker 5: seen it many times in the past.
Speaker 8: It's a brilliant, brilliant film. They just do not make
Speaker 8: movies of this epic scale anymore. Real humans on screening,
Speaker 8: many of them. It's amazing. So when this I had
Speaker 8: seen it as a kid, and when this moment happened,
Speaker 8: when I saw these conservatives kind of stepping up and
Speaker 8: being like me, I'm this, I'm this, I'm like, what
Speaker 8: is happening? So I watched the movie and it unlocked
Speaker 8: something for me because the plot of the movie, it's
Speaker 8: about a slave revolt, a gladiator played by the Great
Speaker 8: the Father of the guy, Kirk Douglas. Yes he's got
Speaker 8: the granite jaw, he's so good. He leads the revolt.
Speaker 8: But then what the actual story is is about these
Speaker 8: Roman patricians who have a rivalry in the capital city,
Speaker 8: who are basically competing over who has the honor to
Speaker 8: destroy Spartacus, which of course inevitably is how the story ends.
Speaker 8: So I was like, Okay, this is about politics.
Speaker 4: Oh everything is about politics these days. I hate to
Speaker 4: say it, it's true, it's true.
Speaker 2: For me.
Speaker 5: The account do better Denver, and I was an early adopter.
Speaker 5: I started following them, I mean pretty quickly when they
Speaker 5: still only had a few thousand followers. But what struck
Speaker 5: me is and to your point, you say that some
Speaker 5: of the posts are vilein made you feel bad, and.
Speaker 4: In all honesty, that's the point. That's the point, because
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 5: From my perspective as a consumer of do Better Denver,
Speaker 5: I don't rejoice in seeing people suffer. I don't rejoice
Speaker 5: in seeing people having a cataclysmic mental health break. Some
Speaker 5: of these videos are incredibly challenging to watch. But as
Speaker 5: an advocate for significant investments in mental health care in Colorado,
Speaker 5: because I am very open on the air of a
Speaker 5: big strain of mental illness in my family.
Speaker 4: So this is something very familiar to me.
Speaker 5: The way that the people in charge the sort of
Speaker 5: you know, the industry that is around our homeless population.
Speaker 5: They have remained in denial about the addiction piece for
Speaker 5: so long.
Speaker 4: It's a housing housing, housing houses.
Speaker 5: Disagreeing, I disagree, that's all they talk about, though, Paul,
Speaker 5: I can only take them at their word. When you
Speaker 5: go back and you look at quotes, when you go
Speaker 5: back and look at policy papers, when you go back
Speaker 5: and look at announcements, it's all about housing.
Speaker 4: And I'm not opposed right.
Speaker 5: To helping people get off the streets, but there has
Speaker 5: to be some kind of responsibility. There has to be
Speaker 5: some kind of we're asking you to let us help you,
Speaker 5: and we're going to give you this housing in exchange,
Speaker 5: but you must accept that help. And those things are
Speaker 5: lacking from all of the commentary from the the the
Speaker 5: administration around this this incredibly difficult situation.
Speaker 8: I couldn't disagree more. I couldn't disagree more. I think
Speaker 8: what you're seeing and hearing is the phrase housing first,
Speaker 8: and you're hearing a policy difference. I think that everybody
Speaker 8: who is involved in this world, at least if you're
Speaker 8: close to it, you know you can see the people
Speaker 8: that you would work with in these shelters being supported
Speaker 8: by these service systems. They directly engage with people, they
Speaker 8: see how varied the experience of homelessness is. Every person
Speaker 8: is different. What you're talking about, like when people talk
Speaker 8: about housing is the number one most important thing. It's
Speaker 8: a policy difference. And that's what do better Denver has
Speaker 8: ultimately with the mayor, which is what I'll talk about
Speaker 8: conservatives later. But that's what liberals don't see, like this.
Speaker 8: This is a difference of opinion about how to approach
Speaker 8: a problem too better. Denver gets into trouble because they
Speaker 8: don't even get to have that conversation. That's what they're
Speaker 8: real critique of the mayor is they feel, I think
Speaker 8: the way you feel like there's this huge problem. We
Speaker 8: have to go fix it, go further and faster. We're
Speaker 8: not doing enough. But it's just it's everyone agrees on
Speaker 8: the problem. It's hard to talk about it when they
Speaker 8: take this tone.
Speaker 5: Right, No, I get that, I get that, But the
Speaker 5: reality is this, we're spending tens of millions of dollars
Speaker 5: on housing. We're not spending tens of millions of dollars
Speaker 5: on treatment facilities in house residential facilities. That some of
Speaker 5: these incredibly broken people who are living on the streets,
Speaker 5: and let's be real, some of these people are never
Speaker 5: going to be well, Paul.
Speaker 4: Some of them are never going to be okay to
Speaker 4: live on their own without support.
Speaker 5: Right, we have to recognize that there is a certain
Speaker 5: percentage of this population because of mental issues, because of
Speaker 5: developmental issues, because of long, long, long term addiction that
Speaker 5: has done significant harm to their brains. So we need
Speaker 5: to be talking about what we do with the chronically homeless,
Speaker 5: which are really the biggest problem, right because they're the
Speaker 5: ones that don't take services, they're the ones that don't
Speaker 5: say yes, I'll accept help. They're the ones that are
Speaker 5: the most likely to leave a housing situation.
Speaker 8: Housing enough sufficient.
Speaker 5: We don't ever, well, I don't see and trust me,
Speaker 5: I follow this so closely. We don't have those conversations.
Speaker 5: We're kind of having them now at the state level,
Speaker 5: like what are we going to do to make sure
Speaker 5: we have housing because of criminal we're talking about the
Speaker 5: criminally mentally ill. That's being talked about in terms of
Speaker 5: we've got to have long term facilities. But I don't
Speaker 5: hear the mayor saying, you know what the City of
Speaker 5: Denver's going to do. We're going to ensure that we
Speaker 5: have one hundred beds to help people detox and begin
Speaker 5: to get out of their addiction, because once they have
Speaker 5: a clear mind, then you can start fixing the problems.
Speaker 5: But what we're asking now, and this is a policy difference,
Speaker 5: what we're asking now is someone who is clearly detached
Speaker 5: from reality because of a severe mental break or severe addiction,
Speaker 5: or asking them to voluntarily change their lives.
Speaker 4: That's not realistic.
Speaker 8: Well, you give a support system, you hope that the
Speaker 8: house and the strategy is that if someone has housing,
Speaker 8: they'll be able to create that network for themselves. They'll
Speaker 8: have something to build for. But I totally agree with
Speaker 8: your point. There are not enough bets. I think I've
Speaker 8: talked to people inside the Mayor's office about this, and
Speaker 8: they know this, They know that this is an issue
Speaker 8: like some of these things that you hear from. The
Speaker 8: Ipolis is interested in this too, like you hear from
Speaker 8: people it's like where's the money coming from to make
Speaker 8: all these changes? So it's about priorities at a certain point.
Speaker 8: But I think the other example, like I mean there's Aurora,
Speaker 8: which is pursuing this more work first doctrine, which seems
Speaker 8: I mean Coffins, you're talking about it a very positive way.
Speaker 8: I think it's interesting. I think it's also interesting what's
Speaker 8: happening in Houston, which is the other place that often
Speaker 8: gets held up is this like big you know, success
Speaker 8: story for housing first, But.
Speaker 5: There are responsibilities for the people that get housing first
Speaker 5: in Houston. There are responsibilities that have to be met,
Speaker 5: and I think for people like you in housing, yes,
Speaker 5: they have to engage in the process. It's not we're
Speaker 5: going to give you housing and then we're going to
Speaker 5: hope you take advantage of all this stuff we're offering you.
Speaker 5: It is we're going to give you housing, but guess
Speaker 5: what we're going to work. You're going to work with
Speaker 5: this person. Have you ever towards step Denver? Have you
Speaker 5: ever done it? I cannot recommend that highly enough to you.
Speaker 5: And if you call them and say it is a
Speaker 5: residential treatment facility that was started by a man named
Speaker 5: Bob Kota two decades ago now, and I've worked with
Speaker 5: them since I've been here. They have a program and
Speaker 5: when you walk through the facility, it visually becomes very real.
Speaker 5: They have a program. You have to enter the facility sober.
Speaker 5: That is the first thing you get sheltered. You basically
Speaker 5: are it's only for men. You're in a dormitory setting,
Speaker 5: so you have all of these beds kind of in
Speaker 5: a row. And then as you get a job, which
Speaker 5: they help you with, as you begin to continue the
Speaker 5: treatment which is daily in the facility, all led by
Speaker 5: men who were in similar circumstances, So it is definitely
Speaker 5: it is definitely a hand up and their success rate
Speaker 5: in a year, in five years far outstrips other programs
Speaker 5: because they're not just helping these men, you know, have
Speaker 5: a place to live. They're helping them rebuild that sense
Speaker 5: of dignity, of personal responsibility, and of their own humanity.
Speaker 4: I should know this by heart, but I don't.
Speaker 8: I think you said one hundred. Does it scale up?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 8: The thing is everyone has such different needs. Well, not
Speaker 8: everyone's going to be suited for this program.
Speaker 5: But you know as well as I do, that government
Speaker 5: is a giant hammer.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: Government is not pinpoint precision, whether we want it to
Speaker 5: be or not. In a perfect world, this is what
Speaker 5: I want. I'm just going to lay it out a
Speaker 5: perfect world. I want people to be able to say
Speaker 5: I need shelter. I'm gonna give you shelter, but it's
Speaker 5: not going to be an apartment, it's not going to
Speaker 5: be a whole what.
Speaker 4: I'm going to give you a shelter so.
Speaker 5: You can get stabilized, and then we're going to work
Speaker 5: together to figure out where we need to slot you.
Speaker 5: And this is kind of what they're doing in Aurora
Speaker 5: right now. They have all of these different services that
Speaker 5: will be under one roof for veterans, for women who
Speaker 5: have come out of trauma. I mean, there's so much
Speaker 5: trauma and homelessness anyway, there has to be a way
Speaker 5: to at least start the process. And I think in
Speaker 5: Aurora they're trying to create that funnel that is going
Speaker 5: to allow them to deliver services in a way that's
Speaker 5: going to be more effective. Because government's best and size fits.
Speaker 8: All, I wonder, I wonder if the scale matches the problem.
Speaker 8: I think Aurora has a smaller scale, you know, under
Speaker 8: one one roof. You know. Also, I do wonder about
Speaker 8: this new city council in Aurora if that kind of
Speaker 8: thing is going to continue.
Speaker 5: That's a big quest, all privately funded right now, So
Speaker 5: the city council can't do a whole bunch about that
Speaker 5: is not privately funded. I mean, there's contracts with Douglas County,
Speaker 5: there's contracts with other people that are contributing money. But
Speaker 5: it's not a lot of tax dollars going into this.
Speaker 5: So their ability to choke it off with using the purse,
Speaker 5: which is generally how you would do that, is not
Speaker 5: as significant here.
Speaker 4: So I'm hoping that they allow it.
Speaker 5: And I've said this since the beginning, since the announcement, Paul,
Speaker 5: We're going to be able to see side by side
Speaker 5: the experiment, right, We're gonna be able to see how
Speaker 5: it works in practicality and see for ourselves which approach
Speaker 5: is able to help the most people.
Speaker 8: I mean, if if we're comparing from uror to to Denver,
Speaker 8: is that the comparison the programs?
Speaker 5: I mean, you're going to be able to know, Like
Speaker 5: step Denver has an ability to track people after they
Speaker 5: call them up and say, are are you employed? Do
Speaker 5: you have a place to live? Are you sober? Those
Speaker 5: three questions? We should be able to track those outcomes
Speaker 5: as best we can. We're not talking about the most
Speaker 5: stable population, but we should be able to say is
Speaker 5: this working?
Speaker 4: And is it working here? And is it working better
Speaker 4: than it is over here?
Speaker 5: And this this should be a great experiment that we
Speaker 5: should all be grateful to have happen right in front
Speaker 5: of us.
Speaker 4: Hip Poppers.
Speaker 8: Who's this you?
Speaker 4: Poppy? This has been alright and has adorable dog.
Speaker 5: That's Murphy, Ben Murphy, Oh, Murphy and are best friends?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 4: This is Paul Rolly been all bright.
Speaker 8: We're talking about La the story.
Speaker 4: Fifty to eighty.
Speaker 5: I want to get to this because I'm almost out
Speaker 5: of time. I'm sorry I wasted all this time solving
Speaker 5: all the problems of homelessness.
Speaker 8: Paul, I want I tell you more stuff that didn't
Speaker 8: make the story.
Speaker 4: Yes, we'll do.
Speaker 5: That, But but you talk to a bunch of people
Speaker 5: about this, and it was interesting to see the different
Speaker 5: perspectives of where they think this is all coming from.
Speaker 4: What did you glean?
Speaker 5: Was there any common threads on the right and the
Speaker 5: left about do better?
Speaker 8: Denver m common threads? I mean, uh, it's political. Media
Speaker 8: is challenging right now. Everyone has a different idea of
Speaker 8: what a journalist is. Yeah, I mean the difference is
Speaker 8: that the similarities are only in the differences. Everyone disagrees
Speaker 8: on the stuff that you know, there's no similarities. Everyone
Speaker 8: on the right sees them as this like citizen journalist
Speaker 8: champion because they have the similar values. Everyone on the
Speaker 8: left is like, they're so mean, yeah, and they're so wrong.
Speaker 5: And you know how I respond to that, Paul, because
Speaker 5: I've had that Levey, that accusation has been levied at me.
Speaker 5: I'm like, is it meaner to point out what's going
Speaker 5: on in the hopes that we can actually address it,
Speaker 5: or is it meaner to allow people to live like
Speaker 5: feral animals on the streets and not do anything.
Speaker 8: Yeah. No, I've heard that argument from Do Better Denver before.
Speaker 8: They said that on CBS this week. Both things can
Speaker 8: be true at the same time, it is very mean
Speaker 8: to point out someone take a picture of someone in
Speaker 8: one of their worst moments, publish their mugshot and put
Speaker 8: their name out there and and like put their very
Speaker 8: worst moment, like who among us is without a horrible moment.
Speaker 8: We were just talking before the show, like we all
Speaker 8: have these things in our past, Like what if your
Speaker 8: worst moment in your whole life was broadcast live to
Speaker 8: Jeers and Glee and you were used for politics? Like
Speaker 8: that's mean. Actually, yeah, Now what's also mean is putting
Speaker 8: a grainy photo of the mayor's wife next to the
Speaker 8: the character of Gollum from The Lord of the Rings.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was all Both things are mean, It's all mean.
Speaker 4: I disagree. I think the purpose behind did.
Speaker 5: Is is something that needs to happen, And if we
Speaker 5: had more accountability journalism when we talked about this off
Speaker 5: the air, our journalists in this town and everywhere have
Speaker 5: been gutted, like our traditional outlets where people would be
Speaker 5: covering things on the street on a daily basis are gone.
Speaker 4: They don't exist anymore.
Speaker 8: So this is what I was saying when I first
Speaker 8: got interested in it, because I was like, they're clearly
Speaker 8: failling the need people want to know this information. I
Speaker 8: believe that eyeballs, where people choose to point them, is
Speaker 8: the value in my industry. And what people were looking
Speaker 8: at was this account. They were looking at the Denver Post.
Speaker 8: That's that's a real thing. You know, people want that,
Speaker 8: so they're serving that need. That's to me, that's a
Speaker 8: good thing. Like what I found interesting in the CBS
Speaker 8: interview was like someone's offered to buy.
Speaker 4: Do Better Denver. That's that. I thought that was crazy.
Speaker 5: My account's been people any account, let me followers nobody thousand.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what they offer enough, I mean, not that I
Speaker 4: would do it, but.
Speaker 3: Job.
Speaker 4: Look look for Ben right at Ben not Bright. This
Speaker 4: his new accounts. So there you go.
Speaker 8: Okay, we gotta go to Youpark.
Speaker 4: Do you want to play our fun stop talking? I
Speaker 4: gotta wrap the story.
Speaker 5: Do you want to play our fun stupid trivia game
Speaker 5: that we do at the end of the show every day.
Speaker 4: Yes, all right, and now it's time.
Speaker 5: For the most exciting segment all the radio of It's kind.
Speaker 4: Of the day.
Speaker 5: All right, here's what we do, Paul. First of all,
Speaker 5: ay Ron has a dad joke for us.
Speaker 4: What is it?
Speaker 6: NASA is launching a satellite to say sorry to the aliens.
Speaker 6: They're calling it the Apollo g Oh god, Yeah, I
Speaker 6: have a better one.
Speaker 4: I have a better one. On no, I got a
Speaker 4: better one.
Speaker 5: That's no matter how hard you push the envelope, it's
Speaker 5: still stationary.
Speaker 4: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Anyway, now our word of
Speaker 4: the day, please, it is an adjective peremptory, peremptory that.
Speaker 5: Means something that prevents something that was about to happen.
Speaker 5: It preempted it peremptory.
Speaker 6: Formal word use, especially in legal context, to describe an
Speaker 6: order command that requires a meata, a compliance with no
Speaker 6: opportunity to show why one could not comply.
Speaker 4: So on that, okay, please treve a question.
Speaker 5: The name of the technology company IBM as an acronym,
Speaker 5: what does it stand.
Speaker 4: For Martional Business Machines. That's correct, those things. Then you
Speaker 4: say we play a loosey goosey game here. Anybody just
Speaker 4: shouting answer?
Speaker 5: Well, wait, now you can now you can. But now
Speaker 5: we play jeopardy and you know question. So if you
Speaker 5: want answer the question, you shot Paul, and then we
Speaker 5: go to you and you answer the form of a question.
Speaker 5: But we play it like a blood sport. You don't
Speaker 5: have to wait till the end of the question. But
Speaker 5: if you answered before, you don't get to hear the
Speaker 5: rest of the question, right, Okay, so just just go
Speaker 5: for it.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: What is our Jeopardy category? Dogs? Dogs? Okay?
Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely didn't do that for a certain reason. The dogs.
Speaker 6: This everyday item shaped like a bone or a donut
Speaker 6: is a dog's most classic.
Speaker 4: Toyah, do you hear the question?
Speaker 8: Sorry?
Speaker 4: What's a bone?
Speaker 6: Wrong?
Speaker 4: Dang it? What was a question?
Speaker 6: This everyday item shaped like a bone or a donut
Speaker 6: is a dog's most toy.
Speaker 5: I mean what this is a terrible question. Nobody knows
Speaker 5: what that is correct?
Speaker 6: Originally bred in Germany as police and military.
Speaker 4: Dogs, what are German shepherd dogs?
Speaker 6: That is correct? For its blue black tongue. This sturdy
Speaker 6: that is I had. Despite its name, this small Mexican
Speaker 6: breed isn't named after what's correct? And finally, often used
Speaker 6: in airport security, this breed's extraordinary sense of smell comes
Speaker 6: from its long ears and.
Speaker 4: What's a bloodhound? That is? Correct? Press Paul, thank you
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