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<v Speaker 1>You're watching Chewing the Cud with Mike, Benny and Rome

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<v Speaker 1>and dominic Berry.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'll slapped by six hour seven dwarfs not happy.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh hello, and welcome to Chewing the Cut, your lighthearted

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<v Speaker 2>weekly look at a very rainbow coalidoscope. This week I'm

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<v Speaker 2>joined by dominic Berry.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, dominic Hello, it's lovely to be here.

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<v Speaker 3>Good to have you back.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's always a joy to be here, absolute joy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here to bring you a story about new BBC

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<v Speaker 1>show Mike. And then are you ready to play a

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<v Speaker 1>game that's sounded like out of a horror film?

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<v Speaker 2>Niceco well crying like anyway, that's before we can get

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<v Speaker 2>done to regale us with some poems in spotlight. But

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<v Speaker 2>on screen now you can see how contact details it's

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<v Speaker 2>at the coud TV on social media, and if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to catch up with previous episodes, you can always

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<v Speaker 2>binge us on YouTube just look for Chewing the Cud

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<v Speaker 2>and on podcast services too.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely, and you can see the names of people who've

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<v Speaker 1>reached out and touched our souls going along the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of the screen. And now it's time to get up

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<v Speaker 1>to date on the things you might have missed from

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<v Speaker 1>the news in the buzz.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you mind me asking your age?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very happy to say my age. I'm coming up

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<v Speaker 1>for forty five.

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<v Speaker 3>Forty five?

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<v Speaker 2>What congratulations? You don't look at day over fifty. Story

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<v Speaker 2>about a man who has been found in a cave.

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<v Speaker 2>He's one hundred and eighty eight years old apparently, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's from India, okay, and he's been found in

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<v Speaker 2>a cave, and people say, on his own, on his own,

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<v Speaker 2>he's saying it's one hundred and eighty eight. People going,

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<v Speaker 2>are we sure, because I mean it looks one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and eighty eight When a nice little modesty flap on it,

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<v Speaker 2>people aren't sure, saying yes, he's definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's on his own. He's the one saying he's

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and eighty eight. If you've been in the

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<v Speaker 1>cave for more than a week, maybe you might lose count.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you don't know how roughly how old it was.

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<v Speaker 2>If he's saying how when he was born? Oh okay, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not the same detective, it's detective Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So people go, well, it could be, but it's unlikely

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<v Speaker 2>to be because that would make him the world's oldest man

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<v Speaker 2>by a good fifty years.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that you said this is from India, right

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<v Speaker 1>where they are famed for their not in all parts

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<v Speaker 1>of India, but meat free diet. A lot of I

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<v Speaker 1>do speak quite a lot about me being vegan. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're a vegan. I think I did not know.

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<v Speaker 1>I do. I do like I think I'm probably going

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<v Speaker 1>to make one hundred and eighty nine, nine hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>ninety on my vegan diet. I think so, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I relate to this. Yeah, okay, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you will wow, break it to me gently, Mike, And

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<v Speaker 1>what do you want to Well, he looks all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Well actually, yeah, yeah, I think yeah, I just one.

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<v Speaker 3>Hundred and eighty eight though that's a long time to live.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like a beard like that. That would be. That

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<v Speaker 3>I think you can get one of those quite quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, i'd like your beard, Mike. Mine's all like

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<v Speaker 1>patchy and stuck, not really ginger.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a lie, how lovely.

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<v Speaker 2>I perfectly don't need running water, but sometimes you probably

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<v Speaker 2>should have it. Moving on, have you ever found something

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<v Speaker 2>and gone, oh, I like that?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh all the time, I've got that proper like magpie mentality,

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<v Speaker 1>like shiny thing, shiny thing, and then like obsessed with it,

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<v Speaker 1>Like what was the last thing you got obsessed with?

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh the last thing I got obsessed person's bottom. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like we're going to go out. If I'm ruling

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<v Speaker 1>out men's bottoms, then probably like one of them. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>E R. And I'm not someone whill just like casually plays.

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<v Speaker 1>That's got Wikipedia find out all the law and you

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<v Speaker 1>know what year was it released all of that? So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what what what are you speaking of? That's caught your eye?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's not what's caught my eye, it's what's caught

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<v Speaker 2>you know, as people are going in house clearances and

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<v Speaker 2>just they will take that that and then they sell

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<v Speaker 2>it on. Well, someone found a painting in a celler

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<v Speaker 2>right in a cheap, nasty frame, and it said to

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<v Speaker 2>the woman do you mind me having that? And sure,

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<v Speaker 2>oh no, take it. It's foul, it's awful, it's going great,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks very much. Turned out to be a Plicasso, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So basically the experts goes, no, it's generally in a

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<v Speaker 2>original Picasso that's been hung in this basement. Four years,

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<v Speaker 2>decades and the whole family hate it's right, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's ugly, it's awful.

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<v Speaker 1>So I heard a similar story. I don't remember all

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<v Speaker 1>the details, but someone who had just been taping television

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<v Speaker 1>on vhs for like years and years had a collection

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<v Speaker 1>like proper collector made a little.

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<v Speaker 3>Bit like our backdrop. This is the gallery.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you what's in Dean's lock up?

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<v Speaker 2>It tells you this sort of stuff and is special

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<v Speaker 2>forever friend, and we don't want to know what that is.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the name of like finding new interests, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like looking up the history of horror movies in general.

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking at what was the first horror movie?

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<v Speaker 1>And a copy of I think one of the first

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking silent movies. It's like seven minutes long, and

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<v Speaker 1>it had thought it had been lost to history, and

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<v Speaker 1>someone had found it in a similar story to this,

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<v Speaker 1>But the difference between this painting and that is that

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<v Speaker 1>they'd watched all these vhss and it's how much stuff

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<v Speaker 1>must get lost, like treasures like this is a really

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<v Speaker 1>significant part of cinematic history, and it's been found And

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<v Speaker 1>I watched it on YouTube and it's dead good. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very camp. I don't think it's meant to be a

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<v Speaker 1>man is about by going a lot?

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<v Speaker 3>Scary was back then in camp?

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<v Speaker 1>How much stuff must just like go missing forever?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this painting is worth millions and this person just

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<v Speaker 2>gave it to the junk seller. Yeah take it.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate it so yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, be careful what you give away.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a big thing there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you have a famous painting, you want to

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<v Speaker 2>give to me TV on social media and that brings

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<v Speaker 2>us nice to us. Story of the week. Now, what's

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<v Speaker 2>your personal stance on hallucinogenic substances.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, Mike, I am a person who is teetotal.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been for over a death, so I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>just vegan, but like no alcohol. No, I do have

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<v Speaker 1>coffee and men's bottoms and my two vices. That's it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just men's bottoms.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, leave the rest of them.

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<v Speaker 3>You have an old flesh like you'd like to do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>What hallucinogenic marvels have entered the news this week.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a story about an Austrian man right who

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<v Speaker 2>decided to do some shrooms are being trialed a lot

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<v Speaker 2>to combat things like ADHD and PTSD. Right, just in

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<v Speaker 2>small quantities, right, but this mon went I've heard about

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<v Speaker 2>that research. Let me go and do a shed ton

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<v Speaker 2>of them. And so while office face on mushrooms, decided,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know what I'm going to do. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to take an act and chop off my penis, And

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<v Speaker 2>so I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was a phone of his penis. There

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<v Speaker 1>it is, there's his balls.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally got a mushroom here. No, no, there's rooms.

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<v Speaker 2>I've not got a picture of his penis because he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't just chop it off. He then used an act

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<v Speaker 2>to chop it off, and then continued to chop it

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<v Speaker 2>to pieces and popped it in a jar with some

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<v Speaker 2>dirty snow and soil, because that's what he thought he

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<v Speaker 2>should do.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's not a good advert for shres.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's not good drugs people.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a reenactment, okay, because really normally have their

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<v Speaker 2>name and that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't have his name. Nowhere has reported his name.

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<v Speaker 1>He's still got a bottom, though it's harder to chop

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<v Speaker 1>off one's bottom.

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<v Speaker 3>If you might have had a go, we don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But he was only found that that happened because he

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<v Speaker 2>was wandering with said pieces of penis in the jar

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<v Speaker 2>right bleeding out.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a real horror theme to today's show, Like when

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<v Speaker 1>I said you want to play game and it sounded

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<v Speaker 1>like sore, Like we're just.

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<v Speaker 3>Single shopping off another man's pen.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a child. When I was young, I was scared

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<v Speaker 1>of quickly finished that sentence. Sorry. Sorry. When I was young,

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<v Speaker 1>I like to chop off people's readers. I was terrified of,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I remember being so scared of the Hollywood movie

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<v Speaker 1>Robin Hood Prince of Thieves, like the most like delicate,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I know, I know, just because there's like

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<v Speaker 1>arrows in it, and you do see Kevin Costner's bottom

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<v Speaker 1>in that. You do see it. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>how can something with such a beautiful bottom feature such violence?

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<v Speaker 1>I was really angry. I was an idiotic child. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember being in the supermarket and a poster was up.

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<v Speaker 1>It made you angry, maybe agree, but not exactly. In

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<v Speaker 1>the supermarket there was a poster up for hell Raiser

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<v Speaker 1>with pin head on. I remember, I cringe, you, this

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<v Speaker 1>is true, it's the true story. I grew member say

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<v Speaker 1>really loudly to my mother, I, as a child should

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<v Speaker 1>not have to look at an image like that mom

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the supermarket. What what a thing

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<v Speaker 1>for a child to choose to do.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I used to do evil things to my parents.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>So the famous story of my family is I was

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<v Speaker 2>playing up in the supermarket on Saturday shop and one

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<v Speaker 2>basically did what all parents will you behave?

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<v Speaker 3>I fell to the floor cry, I'm sorry, please don't

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<v Speaker 3>hit me and get.

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<v Speaker 1>Mom that's calculated.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, She's like, it's like, what do I do at

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<v Speaker 3>that point?

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<v Speaker 2>I can't like shout at you because it looks like

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<v Speaker 2>I want to wit you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but that's all.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Mike, And what what a deep insight into

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<v Speaker 1>our two very different childhoods. Me as a as a

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<v Speaker 1>political activist for the completely unimportant and you as a

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<v Speaker 1>as a as a quite manipulative, psychopathistic psychopath.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's a skill that I've brought into my very adulthood.

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<v Speaker 2>You're welcome, Dominic. Stay right there, because coming after this

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<v Speaker 2>short break, we get up to date with the celebrity

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<v Speaker 2>news with Dominic in the shelbies. Oh, welcome back, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're watching Chew in the cud. This is the part

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<v Speaker 2>of the show where we take a look into the

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<v Speaker 2>sparkly side of the world of Celebrity Celebrity by Sean

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<v Speaker 2>Connery in Shelby's with Dominic.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Mike, because someone in the performing arts world, myself,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always interested in people with a Shakespearean background. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which is which, Mike, which is which? I don't know. Great,

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<v Speaker 2>But Maggie Smith definitely did. She's really good friends with

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<v Speaker 2>Ian McKellen.

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<v Speaker 2>close friends and you know, what's what's your favorite Maggie

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<v Speaker 3>Boogie woogie on the piano. That was a really bad

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<v Speaker 1>What's your favorite Maggie Smith moment? I'll expand the question,

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<v Speaker 1>not just film.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, okay, So because film, it would be Lady

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<v Speaker 2>in the Van, Okay, that was a beautifully done piece

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<v Speaker 2>of piece of film. It was Anna Bennett, which who

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<v Speaker 2>I love as a writer anyway, but her acting and

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<v Speaker 2>that was blang coach, I know. I also like Willie's

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<v Speaker 2>Let's Bring It Back and Dominic like his bottoms.

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<v Speaker 2>This is all all back on screen now it hapends

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't leave it there.

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<v Speaker 3>It's great. We'll just get all this stuff that Judy

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just seeing her just be completely natural and

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<v Speaker 2>get her cast off so it's okay, And just the

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<v Speaker 1>That is lovely. My least favorite Chris Hemsworth moment is

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<v Speaker 1>finding out that in the movie four Love and Thunder,

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<v Speaker 1>where I had so much enjoyed seeing his bare botty,

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<v Speaker 1>a lie, a lie, a lie about a man's bottom,

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<v Speaker 1>the worst kind of lie.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I remember sharing that story with you on the

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<v Speaker 3>show Similar Reacit.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I'll ever get over. I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got the outtakes of the twenty five minute tirade.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you're going to get over.

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<v Speaker 1>Moving on though, Mike. Moving on to other showbiz news

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<v Speaker 1>this week. Mister Loverman is a new drama which is

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<v Speaker 1>coming to the BBC that's based on a twenty thirteen novel,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a character, Norris de la Rue, and this

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<v Speaker 1>from the Windrush generation, and he comes out at the

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<v Speaker 1>image of seventy five. So to have this represented here

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<v Speaker 1>we go, to have this represented in drama is a

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<v Speaker 1>really fantastic thing. I think that any blackened minority ethnic

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<v Speaker 1>representation of LGBTQ stuff is to be encouraged and celebrated,

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<v Speaker 1>because although this is a work of fiction, it's certainly, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>something that needs to be talked about.

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<v Speaker 3>We very very.

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<v Speaker 2>Rarely get old lgbt Q plus stories anyway, So for

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<v Speaker 3>Wasn't he in dark Materials?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what a dark materials? It's what is

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<v Speaker 1>that off? The dark web off?

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<v Speaker 1>I remember in early in my poetic career, I was

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<v Speaker 1>shall not name. I shall not name and shame them

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<v Speaker 1>no other one now I'm not going to say, because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to sag them off. And it weren't. It

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<v Speaker 1>weren't either of them. It weren't either of them. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to say, may you keep getting it right,

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<v Speaker 1>not saying they, oh it was I was asked, right, brilliant,

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<v Speaker 1>it weren't them. They got me to put more sex

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<v Speaker 1>in this creative writing. I was specifically asked. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we all go through different phases of our life, and

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<v Speaker 1>identify themselves, and I was kind of thinking, am I

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not someone who even wants any of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I just hadn't seen enough men's bottoms. That was my story.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was really cross that I was encouraged to

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to tell. There are other parts of our identity,

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<v Speaker 1>so to have this story represented, I feel very strongly

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<v Speaker 1>about that, because you know, it's great to have stories

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<v Speaker 1>about people of all ages, and we do have a

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thrilled that this is being made.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm sorry saying that the BBC is actually doing

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<v Speaker 2>something decent for once.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's really good.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got one more story for you, Mike, one more story. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not someone who watches much reality TV show,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm aware of The Bachelor. When you say not much,

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<v Speaker 1>what that means you do watch some what it is

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<v Speaker 1>you watch? That was me being I don't watch anything

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<v Speaker 1>Do watch violent. Yeah, the Bachelor, I believe, is one

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<v Speaker 1>for the straits. I think you familiar with it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the worst type of reality, is it. But the only reason, well,

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<v Speaker 2>They get an attractive man, right, and some attractive women right, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I hate them already.

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<v Speaker 2>The attractive women have to make the attractive man want them,

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<v Speaker 2>so they do flirty flirty, and then they have a

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<v Speaker 2>rose ceremony and go, I'm giving euros, but you're not

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<v Speaker 3>You're going home.

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<v Speaker 2>It's in front of everybody, and it's cuts through and

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<v Speaker 3>You can't find love like that. They're not shagging.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you know if you love them until they're

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's one gentleman, no one. The only reason I'm

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<v Speaker 1>aware of this is because there's a gentleman who was

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<v Speaker 1>on the batcher. He was the guy, okay, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>come out. He's come out as a bundle with them. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's it. I've not seen him on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have seen him here. So two years later,

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<v Speaker 1>So this is with his partner, Jordan I think it

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to have a family that you know that

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<v Speaker 3>They are having a child or they've had a child.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a child.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, cool, Yeah, that's exciting, so new parents. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm smiling. Oh, happy, happy, happy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a person who is a single person. I try

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<v Speaker 1>things that I was more open minded to when I

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<v Speaker 2>I always had to think that I would want children,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to have a child and bring them

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I've come to the same conclusion through a completely

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<v Speaker 1>going places, going out. We you know, I remember going

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<v Speaker 1>to like rock concert, seeing Placebo with her, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>putting our eyeliner on together, like mother and gay son.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, taking a child to place.

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<v Speaker 1>Before that was all the Lloyd's Weber or the all

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<v Speaker 1>with whiskers and all that. Malas playing so much. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for listening to my showbiz Nata Mike, that's wrapping

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<v Speaker 1>up the show biz. That's all from showbiz for this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Well thanks for that, Dominic. Always nice to know that

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<v Speaker 1>celebrities are, you know, getting on doing family things. Coming

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<v Speaker 2>Week, welcome back to you in the cood with me, Mike,

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<v Speaker 2>ben In Rowe and then Dominic Berry. Now it's part

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<v Speaker 2>before we do, Dominic a little Birdie Kau has told

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<v Speaker 2>me about a certain something you may or may not

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, yeah, are you going to forgive me? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still laughing at your seventh War joke from the start

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this one the version that went out on TV

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<v Speaker 2>or the one I told you that was another TV both.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not broadcasting. Yeah, that's not broadcasting. No, this is

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<v Speaker 1>not my book, and this book is not any book.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the best book of my career, Mike. So far, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it might take some might take some beating because it's

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest hits. Okay, it's the very best of dominic Berry.

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<v Speaker 1>So the oldest time so I'm as established earlier. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>forty five this year. The earliest pimoneers from when I

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<v Speaker 1>was eighteen, and it's like a career retrospective.

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<v Speaker 2>Mic, so that would have been how many years ago?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, my maths, I could do words, not numbers.

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<v Speaker 3>Gary could help out rather just sat there going.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about twenty years worth of work, is it over

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<v Speaker 1>over two decades? Over twenty years, So that's what late nineties,

436
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<v Speaker 1>early two thousands. Yeah, that's right. The oldest poem is

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<v Speaker 1>ninety ninety eight, so yeah, there's a little year after

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<v Speaker 1>each poem as well, so there's like five new poems

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<v Speaker 1>in here. You might even later on give a sneak

440
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<v Speaker 1>peek of some of the new stuff, Mike, that might happen,

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<v Speaker 1>That might happen, who knows, because.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what we're doing in part for.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, nothing else planned back on set, just in case

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<v Speaker 2>anybody wants to know.

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<v Speaker 1>And when's that book available? Oh, good question. I'm doing

446
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<v Speaker 1>a big launch for it at the start of December.

447
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<v Speaker 1>If you happen to be in Manchester, Manchester Central Library

448
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<v Speaker 1>on Thursday the twelfth, twelfth, if that's the If that's

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<v Speaker 1>the number of the week, that is a Thursday, not numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>that's correct, that's six o'clock. Yeah, so, and I'm touring

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<v Speaker 1>all over with it. So yeah, have a look. If

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a good boil, update my website. I'm very poor

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<v Speaker 1>at doing that. I should because I've got big talk coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so your websit will be on screen now, can

455
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<v Speaker 2>we say on social media as well?

456
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<v Speaker 3>Do you keep people stating there?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm on the Instagram map, the poet Dominic. Yeah cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure people follow along and catch you where they can.

459
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<v Speaker 2>When you're touring, but for now, go away excited?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, day of the week. So we were going

461
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<v Speaker 1>to play Uza kazoo. But Dominic, like so many other.

462
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<v Speaker 2>People, can't play a kazoo, so insaid, we're playing the

463
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<v Speaker 2>Gorby game show. Are you comfortable over there? Dominic flies

464
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<v Speaker 2>lit up when you see on the ballgag. So what

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<v Speaker 2>Dominic's gonna do is Dominic's going to sing a song

466
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<v Speaker 2>and I have try and work out what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>So I am ready for your first endeavor.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmmm mm hmmmmmmmmmm mmm.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it tricky?

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<v Speaker 1>Well dop? No?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>What well? Long? Well well fall fall, fall.

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<v Speaker 2>My bitch by the Prodigy, no culture cloth smacking my

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<v Speaker 2>bit chop?

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<v Speaker 1>Ye shall I tell you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just tell me boy slim right about now? Funk?

478
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<v Speaker 1>So brother take it folks, So brother.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it wasn't in the right tune, but yeah

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<v Speaker 2>another one.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe another one? Right? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, oh oh wow?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I get en the number for some support? So

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<v Speaker 2>might think what you were having there was a.

486
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<v Speaker 1>Do you want a clue?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's have a clue.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So I've chosen three songs for you and they're

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<v Speaker 1>all from a similar era of so they're all from

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<v Speaker 1>a similar year and they're all of a similar genre

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<v Speaker 1>of music. Three different groups. So we've had fat boy Slim,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's someone a bit a bit sim Beck Devil's haircut. No, oh, Moby,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you one final clue. And so the vocalist

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<v Speaker 1>you don't need to sing again. The vocalist is from

495
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<v Speaker 1>a very famous Manchester band who've just reformed, but this

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<v Speaker 1>is one of their songs. This is e guesting with

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<v Speaker 1>a different group.

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<v Speaker 2>So this was somebody singing a song that's not where

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<v Speaker 2>he normally sings. Correct, correct, But that doesn't help because

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<v Speaker 2>that just tells me that someone sing a song.

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<v Speaker 3>You just tell me, Just tell me.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Noel Gallagher with the Chemical Brothers and let

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<v Speaker 1>Forever be Top ten hit. Mike, you know it.

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<v Speaker 3>I am aware of the song. Now you said the

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<v Speaker 3>actual name of the song.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh wow, I wrote. Do you know it's on

507
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<v Speaker 1>my T shirt? It's the Prodigy? Okay, man out fund,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't he?

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<v Speaker 3>He can't see us for this?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he didn't do the vocals only only he only

511
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<v Speaker 1>danced in this one. This is the one there earlier

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<v Speaker 1>ones ninety one, ninety ninety one. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>was l I love everybody viewing will Now, Mike, you're

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<v Speaker 1>the only person who doesn't want out of space. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>descending from outer space. Fan another piece.

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<v Speaker 4>I take him out to another dimension, Take to break

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<v Speaker 4>to another dimension, take close tension. Should I tell Madonna

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<v Speaker 4>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Know what song it is?

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<v Speaker 1>That's a scary thing.

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<v Speaker 3>You just say, I don't know what song it is?

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<v Speaker 1>You do you do? Do I do? I tell me

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<v Speaker 1>that because I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Know space spoke Prodigy only like the song of the

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<v Speaker 4>Night is.

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<v Speaker 1>Saying that was out of Space by the Prodigy. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that.

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<v Speaker 3>What you just sang?

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<v Speaker 1>I did say it? Yeah? Yeah. You have to give

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<v Speaker 1>me another song now, okay, okay, right, I'll do I'll

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<v Speaker 1>do a Madonna song for you right before before work

532
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<v Speaker 1>men one night if well, b huh before you for what?

533
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<v Speaker 1>O there? They thought? There?

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<v Speaker 2>So normally in this game, we limit ourselves to no

535
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<v Speaker 2>more than twenty seconds, and the reason for that is

536
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<v Speaker 2>because of royalties and if you play.

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<v Speaker 3>But the good news is no clue what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone have to find out what song is and I go,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, that was something similar to what they're not

540
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<v Speaker 1>going to be able to. I know Madonna's back catalog,

541
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<v Speaker 1>I know the weird stuff. Yeah, it's a mainstream, dear

542
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<v Speaker 1>what this is? It was? It was her first ever ballad.

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<v Speaker 1>The first ever ballad was crazy for you, That's what

544
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<v Speaker 1>I was doing. I don't know what you were doing,

545
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<v Speaker 1>but it was not crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>For you, speacause I'm chrazy follow that one.

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<v Speaker 3>No idea what you were doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Bom Ah.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad that poetry isn't a song. We'll stick

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<v Speaker 2>around because come up next we have some poetry that

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<v Speaker 2>not being a song, I promise you.

552
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<v Speaker 3>In Spotlight.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back, and you're still watching Mike and Dominic and

554
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<v Speaker 2>chewing the cud. Now we're going to get a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of culture. And I'm not talking about what my

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00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:46.279
<v Speaker 2>GP asks for in Spotlight. So I believe you have

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<v Speaker 2>some poems for Dominic.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, Mike, I always have poems, and I thought it'd

559
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<v Speaker 1>be great to try out one of the new ones,

560
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<v Speaker 1>if you're up for that. I'm always up for people

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<v Speaker 1>experimenting on me. All right, this is the poem that

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<v Speaker 1>I've written quite recently. The name of this poem is

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<v Speaker 1>Alie's Lost. I think it goes like this. Here's Ali

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<v Speaker 1>keeping busy working from his office chair. A colleague makes

565
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<v Speaker 1>a quiet, cutting quip about his hair. Last night, he

566
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<v Speaker 1>worked so late, he didn't sleep, keeps being tired. The

567
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<v Speaker 1>boss says, Ali's slow. He's scared of being fired. He's

568
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<v Speaker 1>cut his debt, but feels his work is work for

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<v Speaker 1>work sake. He's quiet. When he's told work through tomorrow's

570
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<v Speaker 1>lunch break to keep this job, he just says yes.

571
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<v Speaker 1>He can't take time to rest. He keeps on being pleasant,

572
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<v Speaker 1>and he keeps on being stressed. Keep up by cutting sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>The silent mouth stays shut. What should Ali keep? What

574
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<v Speaker 1>can Ali cut? He keeps on cutting caffeine, He writes

575
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<v Speaker 1>emails in bed, his nerves and iPod shuffle spice, girls

576
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<v Speaker 1>play inside his head with ginger tea. Today's a mental

577
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<v Speaker 1>health awareness course. He keeps attending. He's aware of mental health.

578
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<v Speaker 1>Of course, there'd be consequences if his feelings made him

579
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<v Speaker 1>shout their mental health awareness seems to always be about

580
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<v Speaker 1>cutting wrong emotions? Is the goal to just keep glad?

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<v Speaker 1>Is Alie at fault? If Ali feels bad, keep up

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<v Speaker 1>by cutting sleep. The silent mouth stays shut. What should

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<v Speaker 1>Ali keep what can Ali cut?

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<v Speaker 3>Lovely?

585
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<v Speaker 1>So?

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<v Speaker 3>What's that? What's that poem about.

587
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<v Speaker 1>Having a rubbish job that you hate?

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<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to make sure I wasn't putting my

589
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<v Speaker 2>ideas on it.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to really dislike it when I was in

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<v Speaker 1>school and they do a big long poem about a chair,

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<v Speaker 1>Look at the chair, look at its legs, look at

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<v Speaker 1>the back of the chair, and they go, what's his

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00:34:56.960 --> 00:34:58.960
<v Speaker 1>poem about? And I go a chair and the teacher

595
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<v Speaker 1>will go, no, it's about religious anarchy. I'm like, what

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<v Speaker 1>don't you get that? Most of my poems are quite

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<v Speaker 1>you know, does what it says on the tin?

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<v Speaker 2>And I just wanted to make sure I wasn't sorry

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<v Speaker 2>projecting my thoughts onto the poem.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh Ali really has a shitty job.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel really appreciative. You know, it's been a

602
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<v Speaker 1>long old time now that I've done poetry as a job.

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<v Speaker 1>And I didn't just walk from school into poetry. It

604
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:27.960
<v Speaker 1>was like years of doing office jobs, cleaning jobs, bar jobs, nightclubs,

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<v Speaker 1>and always writing the poetry. And yeah, yeah, as part

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<v Speaker 1>of a series of times about Ali, that's not an

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<v Speaker 1>isolated thing. The book's got four different little examinations of

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<v Speaker 1>the life of Ali, but I thought that deserved a

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<v Speaker 1>little snapshot moment. I think it's one that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people can relate to.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, oh yes, very very can yes? Do you

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<v Speaker 3>have another one? I maybe I'll to relate to.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a poem called Ali's Tallies, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it goes like this. Wanna be number one? June ninety six,

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<v Speaker 1>say You'll be There was September melseeded high kicks two

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<v Speaker 1>become one. Christmas single top spot was not missed. Mumma

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<v Speaker 1>next statistics, sooth, so focus on this list. Ali is

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<v Speaker 1>diagnosed autistic at forty. His own dim lit backstory reckcond

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<v Speaker 1>All of these memories are rewritten completely to give clearer

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<v Speaker 1>continuity for this middle aged man. His plan now is

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<v Speaker 1>to simply be the best Ali he can be. Three

622
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<v Speaker 1>years ago, he was sacked for screaming. Instant dismissal left

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<v Speaker 1>Ali's eyes streaming. His life had been lived in a mask.

624
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<v Speaker 1>Every time his own head hur felt far too small

625
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<v Speaker 1>for his mind. Ali's loud sounds can cause alarm. He

626
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<v Speaker 1>wants understanding. He never wants to harm. When he said

627
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<v Speaker 1>he can't help, but scream and cry. Employers have told

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<v Speaker 1>Ali his words are Alie. They say that his brain

629
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<v Speaker 1>is not full to its brim. They say they know

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<v Speaker 1>Ali's brain better than him. But now this diagnosis is

631
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<v Speaker 1>a badge of pride for wanting to wear the same

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<v Speaker 1>clothes in and outside. A trophy for when he fell,

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00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:50.960
<v Speaker 1>however hard, he tried a bridge over every instruction whose

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00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:57.119
<v Speaker 1>intent was only implied, and embrace instead of fear, for

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<v Speaker 1>when he screamed and cried. Instead of a boat upon

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<v Speaker 1>railway tracks, He's gained a train to ride to where

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<v Speaker 1>he's not called dumb for liking lists a mile wide.

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<v Speaker 1>Although this does not heal when his condition was denied.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not strange. Be the change. Spice up your life.

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<v Speaker 1>Now too much pain, Stop the blame, Ali, You know

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<v Speaker 1>Howviva forever pride, You're who you know yourself to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Your neuro spicy in a world can be a joy

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<v Speaker 1>to see.

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<v Speaker 2>I know what that one's about. I definitely got that one.

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<v Speaker 2>So what prompts you to write that kind of poem that?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that attitudes and awareness towards autism are really changing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not uncommon people who are autistic getting into poetry.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's kind of like this assumption that autistic people

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<v Speaker 1>don't have connections to emotions, and you know, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>different ways of being, just different ways of being. And

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<v Speaker 1>certainly there is some incredibly emotional, amazing poetry from various

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<v Speaker 1>neuro diverse artists. And yeah, Manchester is rich, the city

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<v Speaker 1>in which I live, for being full of poets, many

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<v Speaker 1>of whom are on that spectrum. And yeah, I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to write something celebratory, realistic, full of some of the

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<v Speaker 1>more challenging things that I know people to whom I'm

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<v Speaker 1>close have experienced, but ultimately one of of celebration.

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<v Speaker 3>Lovely. So have you got time to squeeze one more in?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, I won't do any moraliens saying I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what I'll do one of my old poems, and

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<v Speaker 1>having ended on a positive note, I'll just do something

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<v Speaker 1>really gloomy about veganism. Yeah, woooo alright, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>my old was. I'm not said this for ages. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>see if I remember it. I think it goes like

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<v Speaker 1>this protein is a biochemical compound whose name Bazelius found.

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<v Speaker 1>Von Voitt claimed flesh makes flesh, then sang a sequence

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<v Speaker 1>insulin peritz prized hemoglobin. The Swedish were impressed more studies

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<v Speaker 1>on its benefits directed mutagenesis, as Weismann had foreseen now

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<v Speaker 1>to give these claims such credence does not distract from

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<v Speaker 1>this grievance. Where do vegans get protein?

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<v Speaker 3>What exactly do you eat?

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<v Speaker 1>It's not healthy, no meat. Such Shakespearean introspection between the

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<v Speaker 1>facts to delves lament be twelve or not be twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>Surely that must be the question. When it's simple to

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<v Speaker 1>eat sensible. The soie bean lacks cholesterol, it's easily fortified

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<v Speaker 1>and cooked, can taste exceptional, tongue tinglingly sensual. And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it does provide protein, as does peanut, butter, black beans,

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<v Speaker 1>flax seeds, pecans, almonds, lentils, and cashews. And yet this

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<v Speaker 1>is my beef. I hear debates on my belief. People

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<v Speaker 1>question what I choose when I don't choose for pigs

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<v Speaker 1>to feel. I don't believe that pain is real. That's fact,

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<v Speaker 1>not myth, not needed. So could we an evolution swap

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<v Speaker 1>those myths for resolutioncy the cruelty superseded for the facts

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<v Speaker 1>of protein's chemistry. Our documents through history, they're laid out,

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<v Speaker 1>plain and clear. So I'll hopefully wait for an honest,

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<v Speaker 1>heartfelt date when protein's myth will finally disappear.

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<v Speaker 3>You're a vegan.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I don't mention it much. I don't mention it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like to go on.

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<v Speaker 3>NEX should be telling me a teetotal.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, another great poet. Thank you so much for that, Dominic. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, thank you for giving me this space. I

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<v Speaker 1>really appreciate what joy to share with you. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's just a green screen there, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>actually a wolf. You're welcome, and thank you for being

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<v Speaker 2>an our spotlight. And thank you so much again for

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<v Speaker 2>those poems on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh absolute joy. That's almost the end of the show

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for watching and we'll see you soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye.