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I know I covered some of this the 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:35,039 other day when Tom Tillis, US Senator from North Carolina 11 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,000 announced that he would not be seeking another term, and 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,600 it was in response to the fight that he was 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,479 having with Donald Trump over the Big Beautiful Bill and 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:53,240 specifically the change in Medicaid. And there's a bunch of 15 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,960 money that the Senate version and is there's a bunch 16 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,520 of money that the Senate version has tied up in 17 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,240 this medic reform that's going to be used as an 18 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:11,200 offset to some of the tax cuts. And Tillis took 19 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:16,319 great offense to this provision. And again I went over 20 00:01:16,359 --> 00:01:23,400 this in some degree on Monday, but since there has 21 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,239 now been another piece written over at National Review by 22 00:01:26,239 --> 00:01:31,959 a fellow named Michael Cannon, Michael F. Cannon, and if 23 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,159 you are unclear, And we had a call in the 24 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,280 last hour from Dave and he asked, like why Tillis 25 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,560 was opposing it? And this is going to explain why 26 00:01:39,599 --> 00:01:45,439 Tillis was opposing the big beautiful bill. At least his 27 00:01:45,599 --> 00:01:51,879 public statements indicate it is over this medicaid reform. Okay, Now, 28 00:01:51,959 --> 00:01:57,480 keep in mind North Carolina resisted expanding Medicaid, which was 29 00:01:57,719 --> 00:02:01,280 part of Obamacare when it was first passed fourteen fifteen 30 00:02:01,359 --> 00:02:06,519 years ago. And Obamacare first tried to force states to 31 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:11,159 expand Medicaid, they got smacked down by the court saying 32 00:02:11,199 --> 00:02:13,599 you can't force the states to do that. So then 33 00:02:13,599 --> 00:02:18,759 they offered a higher reimbursement level, a ninety percent federal 34 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:23,280 match basically to the states if they would expand Medicaid. 35 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,719 And a lot of states, well, all the Democrat controlled 36 00:02:26,719 --> 00:02:30,400 states immediately said yes, yes, And because we care about 37 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,719 people more than Republicans, we want them all to have 38 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:37,000 free healthcare. Meanwhile, everybody's health insurance premiums went up. We 39 00:02:37,039 --> 00:02:39,759 pay more now for health insurance than we did before Obamacare. 40 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,759 That's why Obama got the you know, the Washington Post 41 00:02:42,759 --> 00:02:45,159 Award for the biggest lie of the Year, which was, 42 00:02:45,199 --> 00:02:46,879 if you like your plan, you can keep your plan. 43 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,840 If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. 44 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,520 Neither one of those things were true. And we are 45 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,400 still dealing with the fallout of all of this. And 46 00:02:54,479 --> 00:03:02,439 when the Republicans attempted to repeal Obamacare, Can voted no 47 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,960 because he hated Donald Trump. Thanks a lot for that. 48 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,199 So all of this expansion of Medicaid, all these problems, 49 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:16,840 and the acceleration of the costs, the explosion of these 50 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,080 program costs, all of this stuff is tied directly to Obamacare. 51 00:03:22,479 --> 00:03:24,919 That's not talking about Social Security or Medicare. I'm just 52 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:29,439 saying the Medicaid portion of this is tied directly to Obamacare. 53 00:03:31,159 --> 00:03:34,919 And while the North Carolina legislature refused to expand Medicaid 54 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,680 for a decade and a half, they finally caved last year, 55 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,080 the final year of Roy Cooper's term, where he had 56 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,560 been beating the drum for expansion of Medicaid. They finally caved, 57 00:03:46,639 --> 00:03:48,919 and they finally did it. But they did it with 58 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,240 this formula. They did it with a formula, and they 59 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:59,879 said this would protect us in case the federal match declines, right, 60 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,639 because that was the rationale for why they finally caved. 61 00:04:02,879 --> 00:04:06,319 The Republican leadership in North Carolina said we're going to 62 00:04:06,319 --> 00:04:09,319 go ahead and do this because at first, you know, 63 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,479 we thought, oh, they're not going to sustain this. They're 64 00:04:11,479 --> 00:04:13,280 going to claw back the money. It's going to drop 65 00:04:13,319 --> 00:04:16,120 from a ninety percent reimbursement, it's going to drop, and 66 00:04:16,199 --> 00:04:21,720 so we didn't want to expand Medicaid. But after fifteen years, well, 67 00:04:21,759 --> 00:04:23,920 it looks like the Feds are not going to drop 68 00:04:23,959 --> 00:04:26,120 the number right there, They're still going to do this, 69 00:04:26,759 --> 00:04:28,600 and so that was the reason why they said they 70 00:04:28,639 --> 00:04:30,360 did it. And then of course, like a year and 71 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,199 a half later, now here we are where they're going 72 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,879 to be doing exactly what people like me warned would occur, 73 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,439 because it has to occur because the costs are always 74 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:44,040 going to be more than projected. They always are. They 75 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:50,319 always are. So if we're just taking Tom Tillis at 76 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,439 his word at face value what he said about the 77 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:57,959 Medicaid program, here is the takedown of this position that 78 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:03,319 Tilli suspoused from Michael camp. Tillis voted against advancing the 79 00:05:03,319 --> 00:05:09,519 Senate Republicans Corrupt and Irresponsible Budget proposal evidently because it 80 00:05:09,639 --> 00:05:15,079 isn't corrupt and irresponsible enough. So obviously Michael Cannon not 81 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,360 a fan of the big beautiful bill. And for the record, 82 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,480 I will tell you nor am I nor am I. 83 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,240 They had a lot of different ways they could have 84 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:29,040 done this. They could have done it clean. They chose 85 00:05:29,079 --> 00:05:31,759 not to. They chose to do it the way they 86 00:05:31,759 --> 00:05:34,759 did it the Republicans. I don't know if Trump is 87 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,279 involved in all of the minutia of all of the 88 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,759 different deals. I kind of doubt he is, but he 89 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,720 might be. I don't know. I don't care. It doesn't 90 00:05:42,759 --> 00:05:45,480 matter to me because it's just another example in a 91 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,720 long line of examples of Republicans behaving exactly the way 92 00:05:49,759 --> 00:05:52,839 Democrats do when it comes to this kind of spending. 93 00:05:53,079 --> 00:05:58,000 In fact, I mentioned last hour Ben Shapiro's podcast, and 94 00:05:58,879 --> 00:06:04,920 he highlighted these three different groups inside the modern Republican Party. 95 00:06:04,959 --> 00:06:07,680 Now where you have what he called the populist wing, 96 00:06:08,399 --> 00:06:11,680 which are generally the people in the populist wing are 97 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:18,759 generally for low taxes and high spending. You might call 98 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,360 that the Obama coalition. Right, we want low taxes, but 99 00:06:22,399 --> 00:06:23,399 we're going to keep spending. 100 00:06:23,759 --> 00:06:23,959 Speaker 2: See. 101 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: And this is the thing. Nobody wants to actually do 102 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:32,720 the hard work and suffer any political repercussions for addressing 103 00:06:33,199 --> 00:06:40,120 the main driver of the deficits and the debt, which 104 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:46,160 are the entitlements, social security, medicare. Those are the drivers 105 00:06:46,319 --> 00:06:50,800 of our debt. And they don't want to discuss it. 106 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,360 They don't want to do anything about it. The last 107 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,720 time somebody tried it was George W. Bush after he 108 00:06:56,759 --> 00:06:59,240 won re election, he said, I have political capital. I 109 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:03,199 intend to spend it. And he proposed that the US 110 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,800 allow younger people, not everybody, and it would be completely voluntary, 111 00:07:08,079 --> 00:07:12,560 but it would allow younger people to divert a small 112 00:07:12,639 --> 00:07:18,680 portion of their social security confiscations to put into the 113 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,399 market rather than park it in the government where it 114 00:07:22,439 --> 00:07:25,920 makes like one percent or something. Instead, you could park 115 00:07:25,959 --> 00:07:27,959 it in like a mutual fund or something, and you 116 00:07:27,959 --> 00:07:33,360 could generate a larger return on that money. And he 117 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:39,720 was savaged for it. And never again have any of 118 00:07:39,759 --> 00:07:44,920 these national elected representatives or senators gone and touched the 119 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,680 quote third rail. So nobody wants to do it. Nobody 120 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,600 wants to. And let me look at the battle over 121 00:07:51,759 --> 00:07:56,319 medicaid and food stamps. You start, you start doing like 122 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,439 a work requirement and people like you're gonna kill people. 123 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,959 They're able bodied, working age people. Why can't they get 124 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,439 a part time job in order to qualify for the 125 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:14,120 quote unquote free healthcare? So anyway back to the canon 126 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,279 piece here. In a speech to his colleagues, till Us 127 00:08:17,279 --> 00:08:21,040 revealed that the Senate Republican's budget would end the scam 128 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:26,920 by which the senator's home state, North Carolina, is forcing you, me, 129 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,720 and other taxpayers in every other state to fund its 130 00:08:30,759 --> 00:08:38,679 Obamacare Medicaid expansion. Right, so, North Carolina is using everybody 131 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:43,240 else's tax money for our Medicaid expansion. Till Us pledges 132 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,799 not to vote for any budget unless it allows North 133 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:53,480 Carolina to keep fleecing us. How does the scam work? Well, 134 00:08:53,519 --> 00:08:57,679 each state operates a medicaid program that offers healthcare subsidies 135 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:04,120 ostensibly but certainly not exclusively to the poor. That's the idea, 136 00:09:04,279 --> 00:09:07,039 is that the way it actually works out not so much. 137 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:13,279 Congress contributes to each state's Medicaid program in a manner 138 00:09:13,519 --> 00:09:19,879 that guarantees explosive spending and excessive waste, fraud, and abuse. 139 00:09:21,919 --> 00:09:25,200 I would submit this is a feature, not a bug. 140 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,279 All right, If you're listening to this show. 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Your subscription 159 00:10:23,879 --> 00:10:26,559 then not only helps my podcast, but it also supports 160 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,840 ground News as they make the media landscape more transparent. 161 00:10:30,519 --> 00:10:34,679 I mentioned Ben Shapiro and his breakdown of sort of 162 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,639 these different camps inside the Republican Party over in the 163 00:10:38,759 --> 00:10:40,679 US Senate, and I'm assuming it's over in the House 164 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:45,360 as well. And this is just his assessment of it. 165 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,759 You can agree or disagree, but he counts the populist wing, 166 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:55,639 which we're for low taxes but high spending. There's the 167 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,720 fiscal hawks who are for low taxes and low spending. 168 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,399 I would put myself in that camp, by the way. 169 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,639 And then there's another coalition sort of the tech bros 170 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:12,399 ai green energy stuff. That was a major point of 171 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,159 contention as well. So those were the three groups that 172 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:22,720 were in conflict during this process. But Tom Tillis made 173 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:27,840 the Medicaid reforms the focal point of his opposition to 174 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,480 the Big Beautiful bill, and he gave a speech and 175 00:11:31,519 --> 00:11:33,919 he railed against it. We played the speech on Monday. 176 00:11:35,759 --> 00:11:39,840 Michael Cannon, writing at National Review, explains how every state 177 00:11:39,919 --> 00:11:46,360 operates its medicaid program okay, that offers healthcare subsidies. Congress 178 00:11:46,399 --> 00:11:51,480 contributes to each state's Medicaid program in a way that 179 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:57,960 guarantees explosive spending and excessive waste, fraud, and abuse. For 180 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:03,559 every one dollar that a state puts towards Medicaid, Congress 181 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:10,519 matches it with something between one dollar to nine dollars. Right, 182 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,639 So for every dollar a state spends, you either get 183 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,799 a one for one match or up to a nine 184 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:21,120 to one match. The premise is that Congress will contribute 185 00:12:21,519 --> 00:12:26,639 if the state sacrifices something to fund its own program. Right, So, 186 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:31,240 if the state says, we want to fund Medicaid expansion, 187 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,600 and so we're going to spend you know, a billion 188 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,639 dollars on it, then Congress would say, Okay, you've made 189 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,679 a tough decision to do this, so we're going to 190 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,080 give you nine billion dollars max. 191 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:43,519 Speaker 2: Right. 192 00:12:46,399 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: Already, this is a boon to state officials if they 193 00:12:50,399 --> 00:12:54,440 raise taxes by a dollar, inflicting one dollar of political 194 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,720 pain on the voters on the tell, well on the taxpayers, 195 00:12:57,759 --> 00:13:01,799 I should say, and whatever ramifications that means for their 196 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,519 political prospects at the ballot box. For every one dollar 197 00:13:05,519 --> 00:13:09,159 of political pain they inflict, Medicaid lets them hand out 198 00:13:09,759 --> 00:13:14,120 between two to ten dollars of political goodies. The difference 199 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:19,879 comes from taxpayers in other states. Little wonder that Medicaid 200 00:13:19,919 --> 00:13:26,120 spending has doubled since twenty thirteen. Some state officials have 201 00:13:26,279 --> 00:13:32,039 created an even sweeter deal for themselves. They tax hospitals 202 00:13:32,519 --> 00:13:38,320 or other healthcare providers the one dollar, so they're not 203 00:13:38,399 --> 00:13:42,879 even extracting it from taxpayers and bearing the political pain there. 204 00:13:43,399 --> 00:13:48,240 They're hitting healthcare providers with the one dollar. They then 205 00:13:48,399 --> 00:13:51,799 use that dollar to extract one to nine dollars in 206 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:56,879 the federal matching funds, and then they give the original 207 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:03,639 dollar back to the hospital. These are called provider taxes. 208 00:14:05,159 --> 00:14:09,960 It lets states siphon hundreds of billions of dollars from 209 00:14:10,039 --> 00:14:15,600 taxpayers in other states, using the federal government as the 210 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:22,399 conduit to do so. And they don't have to sacrifice anything. 211 00:14:22,639 --> 00:14:28,320 So the Republican legislature that expanded this last year, they 212 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:33,879 bear no political cost because we don't see it. Right. 213 00:14:34,519 --> 00:14:36,360 If people had to pay this or they had to 214 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,720 raise taxes to pay for this stuff, people would be mad. 215 00:14:39,799 --> 00:14:44,000 Republican voters would be mad. But if you tax the 216 00:14:44,039 --> 00:14:46,840 healthcare provider and then give them the rebate in the 217 00:14:46,879 --> 00:14:50,120 exact amount that they were taxed, well, then you don't 218 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:54,480 ever really see it. Cannon goes on to say North 219 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,919 Carolina uses these scams to fund the entirety of its 220 00:14:58,919 --> 00:15:05,559 Obamacare Medicaid expansion. Basically you are funding more of North 221 00:15:05,559 --> 00:15:10,519 Carolina's Obamacare Medicaid expansion than is the state of North Carolina, 222 00:15:10,679 --> 00:15:14,679 which isn't putting up a dime. State law says, now, 223 00:15:15,679 --> 00:15:19,559 one point here, North Carolinians do pay federal taxes too, 224 00:15:19,879 --> 00:15:22,960 so it's not a straight up like forty nine other 225 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,279 states are paying for us. So I disagree with that. 226 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,279 I'm quibbling over just like what percentage of the money 227 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,799 North Carolinians are paying up to the federal government does 228 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:36,120 eventually come back through this mechanism. But I think the 229 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,039 point is still the same. The majority of the cost, 230 00:15:39,159 --> 00:15:43,919 vast majority of the cost is being subsidized by people 231 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,320 in other states. And if you live in another state, 232 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,320 that should irk you right because they created this mechanism. 233 00:15:52,279 --> 00:15:56,600 State law in North Carolina says that if the state 234 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:01,120 ends up having to sacrifice anything to pay for this expansion, 235 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,480 in other words, if the provider tax falls short of 236 00:16:06,519 --> 00:16:10,840 covering one hundred percent of the state's ten percent share 237 00:16:10,879 --> 00:16:14,519 of the program spending, because that's the ninety ten percent 238 00:16:14,559 --> 00:16:18,919 split that Obamacare offered to expand Medicaid, that was the sweetener. 239 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,679 We'll give you ninety percent, We'll cover ninety percent of 240 00:16:21,679 --> 00:16:24,679 the cost in North Carolina. North Carolina has been for 241 00:16:24,759 --> 00:16:27,360 fifteen years. They were saying we're not paying the ten percent, 242 00:16:27,399 --> 00:16:30,679 we're not expanding and doing an extra ten percent to 243 00:16:30,759 --> 00:16:34,080 fund the program until they figured out the mechanism here 244 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:38,120 and adopted it to quote tax the providers and then 245 00:16:38,759 --> 00:16:40,759 give the money back from the Medicaid because they get 246 00:16:40,759 --> 00:16:44,759 the because they're getting the money from Medicaid, the providers 247 00:16:44,879 --> 00:16:48,200 when they see somebody, they treat a patient, they're getting 248 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:52,360 that money back, so they make their money back. But 249 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:58,200 the law that North Carolina passed said that if we 250 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:02,960 fall short of the ten percent, then the Obamacare's Medicaid 251 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:08,720 expansion dies. It's a trigger in the law. The Senate 252 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:14,720 in there in the big beautiful bill would not end 253 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:20,200 provider taxes. It doesn't end them. It just reduces the percentage. 254 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:25,519 It would curtail them from like six percent down to 255 00:17:25,559 --> 00:17:28,480 three percent something like that. So it puts a cap 256 00:17:28,519 --> 00:17:30,440 on that so the states so they're not going to 257 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,440 give anything more than like three and a half percent. 258 00:17:33,599 --> 00:17:37,279 But that then trips the trigger in North Carolina. And 259 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,599 that's what Tom Tillis was arguing against. That's why he 260 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,279 didn't want this thing to pass because it trips the trigger, 261 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:48,960 which means the expansion in North Carolina ends for fourteen years. 262 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:54,240 North Carolina refused to implement Obamacare's Medicaid expansion because state 263 00:17:54,279 --> 00:17:57,240 officials did not want the state to pay even the 264 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:01,240 ten percent share of the program spending that fell law specifies. 265 00:18:01,519 --> 00:18:06,599 Obamacare's medicaid expansion was so unpopular that voters and lawmakers, 266 00:18:06,839 --> 00:18:11,079 including then House Speaker Tom Tillis, weren't even willing to 267 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:15,440 buy it at one tenth of its price in twenty 268 00:18:15,519 --> 00:18:22,000 twenty three, Obamacare's supporters, in other words, every Medicaid supplicant 269 00:18:22,319 --> 00:18:25,599 hospital in the state. In twenty three, they finally got 270 00:18:25,599 --> 00:18:30,440 the legislature to approve the expansion by concocting this financing scam, 271 00:18:30,599 --> 00:18:33,640 which ensured the taxpayers in other states would pay the cost. 272 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,599 And two, they included a statutory kill switch that would 273 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,839 scuttle the program if it ever cost the state anything. 274 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:47,119 Legislators could always kill the program if they wanted to. 275 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,319 They could do it themselves, but that would require raising taxes. 276 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,319 Tillis and North Carolina's overpriced hospitals rightly fear that if 277 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,359 tar heel state voters see even a fraction of the 278 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:01,680 cost of Obamacare's Medicaid expansion. It would not withstand their wrath. 279 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,920 So that was why Tilli's vote to know. Here's a 280 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,839 great idea. How about making an escape to a really 281 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,079 special and secluded getaway in western North Carolina. Just a 282 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,759 quick drive up the mountain and Cabins of Asheville is 283 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,720 your connection. 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If you just google it, you 308 00:20:34,759 --> 00:20:37,440 can look up the average cost of a bill to 309 00:20:37,519 --> 00:20:40,359 go to the emergency room, depend on where you live, 310 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,000 between twenty to twenty six hundred and three thousand dollars 311 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,440 to say twenty one hundred dollars, and most I would say, 312 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,640 probably ninety percent of emergency rooms busits could be handled 313 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,720 through the urgent care. Probably urgent care is they only 314 00:20:55,759 --> 00:20:59,680 take insurance or private pay. So the average bill there, 315 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,039 depend know where you live, was one hundred two undred 316 00:21:02,079 --> 00:21:04,759 dollars I said one to fifty. So how long do 317 00:21:04,799 --> 00:21:08,160 you think a country can pay three thousand dollars for something? 318 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,279 Because for most people who don't even have the one 319 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,359 hundred or two hundred dollars, they're going to go to 320 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,359 the emergency room for sore throats. How long can you 321 00:21:15,519 --> 00:21:17,960 how long can you continue to fund something at the 322 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,279 rate of almost three thousand dollars when the market says 323 00:21:20,279 --> 00:21:21,400 it's only worthing on fifty. 324 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,599 Speaker 1: So well, not in perpetuity, that's for sure. But that's 325 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,400 the point, right, The point is to break the system. 326 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,839 So people then demand that the ones who designed it 327 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,960 to break will come in and somehow fix it. And 328 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,039 how it will get fixed will be government more more 329 00:21:39,039 --> 00:21:43,200 government control or a government run system. Right, that's why 330 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,880 they expanded manikey, right, and so and so. 331 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 2: Then so then when they get to that point, how 332 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:52,000 will they Because the market itself would allocate that service, Okay, 333 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,599 so when the government controls it, what formula was the 334 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,359 government used to allocate that service? And I want to 335 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,920 ask you a question on that basis. When you said 336 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,359 the ratio was one to nine billion dollars, how do 337 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,759 they determine who gets the one and who gets the nine. 338 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,559 Speaker 1: I don't know that. I do not know. I think 339 00:22:09,599 --> 00:22:12,279 it there. Well they do, they peg. They peg part 340 00:22:12,319 --> 00:22:15,799 of it to the error rate. So if you have 341 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,160 a large amount of errors that your state is making 342 00:22:21,599 --> 00:22:24,720 by making people by allowing people to join the roles 343 00:22:24,759 --> 00:22:27,559 and paying them out, and there's you know, fraud and 344 00:22:27,599 --> 00:22:29,680 abuse or whatever, if you have high error rates, I 345 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,519 think you get less. I think that's part of the formula. 346 00:22:34,039 --> 00:22:36,319 Speaker 2: So the courtion is when it gets to that point, 347 00:22:36,519 --> 00:22:39,000 how are they going to allocate who actually gets healthcare 348 00:22:39,039 --> 00:22:46,400 and who doesn't, like like like FA allocated aid to Elene, 349 00:22:46,799 --> 00:22:48,400 to Alaine to the hurricane. 350 00:22:49,039 --> 00:22:51,759 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean I've talked about this for well 351 00:22:51,799 --> 00:22:55,119 since two thousand and eight, when you know Obama started 352 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,599 pushing all of this. There are only two ways to 353 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,880 uh to ration by access or by price, And all 354 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,160 products and services are ration They have to be so 355 00:23:07,519 --> 00:23:09,720 because there's not an infinite supply of it, So you 356 00:23:09,799 --> 00:23:12,039 have to ration by access or by price. And if 357 00:23:12,079 --> 00:23:14,039 you are going to go to a government run model 358 00:23:14,079 --> 00:23:16,920 where you're not going to ration by price, then that 359 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,640 means you must ration by access, which means that certain 360 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:25,319 people won't be able to get procedures or surgeries or whatever. 361 00:23:25,599 --> 00:23:27,640 They won't be able to go. They won't be able 362 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,079 to get the stuff. And that's why you see long 363 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:35,400 wait times for surgeries and procedures that in America take 364 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,200 you know, a week or two to schedule, but up 365 00:23:38,279 --> 00:23:39,799 in Canada will take you two years. 366 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,519 Speaker 2: Correct. So what we're going to do then, is we're 367 00:23:44,559 --> 00:23:46,920 going to allocate the surguts and services price on your 368 00:23:47,319 --> 00:23:48,799 political affiliation. 369 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: More No, I don't see that. And they're not going 370 00:23:52,279 --> 00:23:54,759 to be carting people to see what your political affiliation 371 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,279 is before you walk in the door. No, they're just 372 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,160 going to give. Yeah, they're gonna give blanket refuse. And 373 00:24:01,799 --> 00:24:04,279 we've covered stories going back, you know, fifteen years on 374 00:24:04,319 --> 00:24:07,920 this stuff over in in the UK where it's like, oh, 375 00:24:08,039 --> 00:24:10,960 this person you know was a smoker and so therefore 376 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,279 they get pushed to the lower end of the line 377 00:24:13,839 --> 00:24:17,079 for a hip replacement or something like. They will make 378 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:21,039 those types of decisions to ration. So Stan, I appreciate 379 00:24:21,039 --> 00:24:22,200 the call. I don't know what's going on with your 380 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,160 phone there. It's very we were getting some interference there, 381 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,079 but I appreciate the call. And look, this is the 382 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:31,079 problem when you have people clamoring for free stuff. I 383 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,000 want free healthcare, and now we know the cost of 384 00:24:35,039 --> 00:24:40,680 the free healthcare with the Obamacare marketplace. I've been over there, 385 00:24:42,319 --> 00:24:49,759 an absolute mess and way more expensive. In fact, hang 386 00:24:49,799 --> 00:24:51,519 on a second, I saw here we go. This is 387 00:24:51,519 --> 00:24:55,839 from Kevin. My family applied for Medicaid thirteen years ago 388 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,920 when I lost my job. Only had it for a 389 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,599 little while because we were still bill in the system. 390 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,680 Back when North Carolina expanded Medicaid, we got a letter 391 00:25:04,799 --> 00:25:07,559 stating that we may now be eligible for it again. 392 00:25:08,039 --> 00:25:10,599 So twenty three, they were still in the system from 393 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,960 years ago, so they're like, hey, do you want to 394 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,000 get back in? So they solicited people. They're like trying 395 00:25:17,039 --> 00:25:20,839 to puff up the numbers. Right. They required my previous 396 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,720 year tax returns. I did not think I could possibly 397 00:25:23,759 --> 00:25:27,400 be eligible, but was looking at twelve hundred dollars a 398 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,680 month bill for a crappy marketplace plan for a healthy 399 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,799 family of four. I've been self employed for twelve years now. 400 00:25:36,079 --> 00:25:38,920 There was hardly any subsidies on the marketplace because of 401 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,839 how high my income was. I sent it in and 402 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:49,680 they said we were approved this for Medicaid. So he's like, 403 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,759 not get Kevin's not getting any subsidies because he makes 404 00:25:52,759 --> 00:25:56,480 too much money, but he qualifies for Medicaid. Do you 405 00:25:56,519 --> 00:26:01,319 see that this is the goal. It's to get people 406 00:26:01,519 --> 00:26:07,400 into the government provided voucher system, essentially free gov co healthcare. 407 00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:11,559 He says. I thought they made a mistake since my 408 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:16,359 AGI adjusted gross income is six figures. So I sent 409 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,079 them in emails telling them what my AGI is and 410 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,519 I had them in writing reply saying no, my family 411 00:26:24,599 --> 00:26:28,079 was approved. This was a cya for me, is what 412 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,079 that was. I could have afforded the twelve hundred dollars 413 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,839 a month, but really didn't want to. Now multiply my 414 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:41,559 situation by thousands of others in North Carolina. This is 415 00:26:41,599 --> 00:26:44,559 how look. I remember. The same thing occurred with the 416 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:50,079 unemployment insurance when I lost my job in twenty eleven 417 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:58,720 and I applied for unemployment insurance, applied for the unemployment benefits, 418 00:26:58,839 --> 00:27:02,160 and they were paying me five hundred dollars a week. 419 00:27:02,599 --> 00:27:04,920 And all I had to do was make a phone 420 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:10,640 call into the state system and answer like three questions 421 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,839 with the punch pad with the with the number pad, 422 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,400 did you look for a job this week? Press one 423 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,480 for yes, two for now did you get a job? 424 00:27:18,519 --> 00:27:22,039 One for yes, two for no like beobo boob, and 425 00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:26,559 then you're done. 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Sarah Pequano calls 457 00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:26,799 Tillis a moderate senator who said he would not support 458 00:29:26,839 --> 00:29:31,039 the bill based on how it would impact Medicaid recipients. 459 00:29:31,519 --> 00:29:35,200 It's not really though what he said. He was he 460 00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:39,000 was talking about the program and the reimbursements and that 461 00:29:39,079 --> 00:29:42,079 sort of thing, and that's going to end up. He 462 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,720 never says this in the speech either, but that triggers 463 00:29:44,759 --> 00:29:49,240 the North Carolina law, which then takes down the Medicaid 464 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,519 expansion portion, which would then rob Roy Cooper of his 465 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:58,359 one you know victory. But she does acknowledge that she 466 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,680 has never been one to feel warmly toward Tillis, but 467 00:30:02,759 --> 00:30:06,119 the reasoning behind his decision is shocking. If there was 468 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,599 no room for moderates in the Republican Party, I am 469 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,839 worried about where the country is headed. I love it. 470 00:30:13,599 --> 00:30:16,079 I love it when Democrats and media, but I repeat myself, 471 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,680 I love when they play this game of like we're 472 00:30:21,799 --> 00:30:24,160 just giving you some good advice because we want you 473 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:30,759 to be successful Republicans. Right. No, what she what she 474 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,680 is doing is taking an opportunity to say I am 475 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:40,319 for bipartisanship, I am for working across the aisle. He's 476 00:30:40,359 --> 00:30:46,359 a moderate senator, so now you can say these things. 477 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,519 It's like, what's the old line about, you know, Democrats 478 00:30:50,519 --> 00:30:53,720 and media. But I repeat myself that they that they 479 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,480 only give praise to Republicans when when they vote with 480 00:30:57,519 --> 00:31:01,160 Democrats or die, like those are the ones they concede defeat. 481 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,440 They vote with the Democrats like you like, because they 482 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,799 called John McCain all these terrible names, and then as 483 00:31:07,839 --> 00:31:09,960 soon as he conceded to Barack Obama, they were like 484 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,799 what a statesman? They called Mitt Romney all these terrible things, 485 00:31:13,799 --> 00:31:16,039 and now we're hearing like, Oh, what I wouldn't give 486 00:31:16,079 --> 00:31:20,160 to have a true statesman like Romney. Again, they always 487 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,680 play this same game. You are hitler while you are 488 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,960 in opposition to them, but then when you die or 489 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,680 you vote with them on something, now all of a sudden, 490 00:31:30,759 --> 00:31:33,920 you're the reasonable one. Or if you criticize Donald Trump, 491 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,440 then you're like, you're one of the good ones. I mean, 492 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,640 tomorrow you're gonna be hitler again if you oppose me, 493 00:31:38,759 --> 00:31:43,440 But right now you're one of the good ones, she says. 494 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,200 And again, remember she's telling she's writing this piece at 495 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:53,279 USA today in order to inform the nationwide audience about 496 00:31:53,319 --> 00:31:56,240 all of her background and knowledge of North Carolina because 497 00:31:56,279 --> 00:31:57,960 she was here. I don't know if she still is here, 498 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,359 but so here's what she offers. Tillis did a lot 499 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,200 to earn my distrust while serving in the North Carolina Senate. 500 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,000 That's actually that never happened. Tom Tillis never served in 501 00:32:12,079 --> 00:32:15,720 the North Carolina Senate. Tom Tillis was the Speaker of 502 00:32:15,839 --> 00:32:19,920 the House. He was the Speaker of the House. He 503 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,359 was not a senator. She says. There was Amendment one 504 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,200 that was the marriage Amendment right codifying in the state 505 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,599 constitution marriages between a man and a woman. There was 506 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,359 the twenty twelve constitutional amendment that changed the state constitution 507 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,200 so that only marriages between men and women would be recognized. 508 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,720 There was the twenty thirteen Motorcycle Safety bill he supported, 509 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:48,480 which snuck draconian restrictions on abortion access into a bill 510 00:32:48,519 --> 00:32:54,440 that was supposed to cover increased safety for motorcyclists. Do 511 00:32:54,519 --> 00:33:01,599 these things sound like moderate Republican positions? How do you 512 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:06,480 label him a moderate but then say stuff like this, 513 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,480 These don't seem like moderate position? Or are you saying 514 00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:13,680 these are the moderate positions? That's interesting? So what I'm 515 00:33:13,759 --> 00:33:18,039 to believe then that the draconian restrictions that were snuck 516 00:33:18,079 --> 00:33:21,279 into the bill, that's the moderate Republican position that you 517 00:33:21,359 --> 00:33:25,440 want to see more of. No, No, you're only calling 518 00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:30,440 him a moderate now because he crossed Donald Trump and 519 00:33:30,519 --> 00:33:33,240 that's of higher value to you. And Tillis is going 520 00:33:33,319 --> 00:33:37,039 to be retiring, so who cares? And by the way, 521 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,559 just for the record, because I was here too and 522 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:44,559 covering this when it happened, the draconian restrictions were simply 523 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:54,640 to raise the health and sanitation standards in abortion clinics 524 00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:02,720 to match veterinarian clinics, like we in North Carolina. They 525 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,599 didn't do any inspections. They would never like they shut 526 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,079 down the inspections. They were just like wild West in 527 00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:14,639 this thing. Under Democrat administrations. McCrory comes in. Republicans are 528 00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:17,480 in control of the legislature and they're like, hey, you 529 00:34:17,519 --> 00:34:20,039 know what we should actually have like a standard like 530 00:34:20,079 --> 00:34:23,760 these are ambulatory medical centers, you know, like people walk 531 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,760 in and whatever get procedures done. We should like be 532 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:31,400 inspecting them at least as often as we inspect veterinarian clinics. 533 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,280 You should meet the same cleanliness standards as a vet. 534 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:40,679 And the left went nuts. They started wearing the costumes 535 00:34:41,079 --> 00:34:47,000 of Genitalia, you know, to the legislative building. She said. 536 00:34:47,039 --> 00:34:49,840 Somebody willing to occasionally stand up to Trump is better 537 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,519 than someone with unshakeable loyalty to the president. If there's 538 00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:57,400 no room for someone with a lukewarm relationship with Trump 539 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,119 in the Republican party, one must imagine that the Republican 540 00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:04,400 who'd come after will be a fervent supporter of the 541 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,280 Maga agenda. I can believe I'm saying this, she says, 542 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,480 But the state's voters deserve a moderate like Tillis, somebody 543 00:35:13,519 --> 00:35:16,360 who Roy Cooper can be. I mean, no, Sorr, I 544 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,199 shouldn't say, someone who, when the time calls for it, 545 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,840 will stand up to the president. The country deserves more 546 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,840 legislators who are willing to go against their party. She 547 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,559 does not mention that not a single Democrat voted for 548 00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:33,199 this big, beautiful bill. She has no words whatsoever for 549 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,440 Democrats behaving in the way that she wants the Republicans to. 550 00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:41,239 I'm sure it's just an oversight. All right. That'll do 551 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,840 it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. 552 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,079 I could not do the show without your support and 553 00:35:46,119 --> 00:35:48,840 the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, 554 00:35:49,199 --> 00:35:51,280 so if you'd like, please support them too and tell 555 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,039 them you heard it here. 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