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let's dive in to today's episode. I like to welcome
to the show, Chris Littncott. How you doing, Chris? Hey?
Speaker 2: I like, how are you doing? Great? Now here?
Speaker 1: Good? I'm good, my friend, I'm good. Thank you so
much for coming on the show. I'm excited to talk
to you because I haven't spoken to many mediums on
the show before, and I'm fascinated with the processing and
the messages and all of that kind I know a
lot of people are a little confused about what mediums
are and what's the difference between that and a clairvoyant
and a psychic and all these all these other kind
of terms that we know before we get into it.
How did you start this journey? What was the journey
that got you to the place where you started to
be awakened?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good question if you want to think
about it. From the very beginning, I was aware of
spirit as a child, but at the time, of course,
I didn't really know what it was, you know, because
it's when I was a child, probably six maybe seven
years old, I was in contact with other people that
were outside and they were having full on conversations with me,
but nobody else can see them, and I didn't know
what was going on. I thought, oh, it's just my
active imagination, right, this is great. And then at nighttime
there sometimes where I would actually hear voices in my room,
which was a kid scared me to death. I thought
there was like a monster that just coming from under
my bed to take me away, right all the Hollywood
ghost stories. And at one point I even had a
hand touched my back while I was on my bed,
on my stomach, trying to sleep, And yeah, that was
for me. It kind of like almost like the culmination
of what was going on as a child that is
kind of starting to beg them to go away, beg
them to go away, and sure enough I got my
wish they went away, and then I suppressed it, probably
for you know, a whole bunch of decades. I said, now, yeah,
I don't want to deal with this, and I went
into finance, became this very logical, materialistic, you know, guy
who was just not even thinking about anything spiritual, religious,
or spirit of any kind. And I was noticing that
I was getting really really stressed out at work because
I was on wall three. I was going absolutely crazy
with my job. And I heard somewhere, oh, yeah, you
want to try meditation. Meditation was really a las thing.
I was like, meditation, you know, I looked at people
who did meditation is you know a little bit out there,
you know, somebody from the Hindu cush. I'm like, uh,
that's not for me, right, So I just said, well,
you know, let's go find a video or rather an
audio track that resonates with me and maybe it'll work.
So I did, and I became so hooked on that
one particular track that I wound up doing it every
day for you know, fifteen twenty minutes or so. So
that way, I'd be really relaxed in the morning and
I'd go to work really really chilled out. But I
did this every day for about twelve months. And then
at the end of that twelve month period, I'm in
my man cave, because every guy's got to have his
man cave. And what winds up happening is I am somehow,
you know, after about thirty minutes I'm mentally taken away
to some space that's very much of a you know,
out of this realm area, and I just remember being
I don't want to say visited by, but seeing these
four people in silhouette. There were you know, the spirit
people that were coming to me, and I felt I
recognized them. I didn't want to know who they were.
And the one all the way to my right, who
is the tallest and felt the most powerful, I noticed,
was suddenly sending like this energy beam straight through my
chest out through my back, which you know, shocked the
but Jesus that it makes them like, wait a second,
I mean I'm not sleeping. I mean this is real
because I could feel it. And then it just kept
on escalating from there, going to the point where all
of a sudden I began to feel I was completely loved.
I was completely at one with the universe, and I
began to realize the the singularity that we're all here,
and the illusion of the duality in the physical and
it really shocked me. And soon after for that awakening,
all my family in spirit started coming to me in
rapid succession in these dream visitations, and then I started
to feel people around me I could feel the energy.
I could feel the tingling all around me. I could
I could sense energy, and I knew there were people
around me, just like I was when I was a child,
So I knew something had happened. I knew the portal
quote unquote reopened, right, And that's kind of when I
had to start, you know, looking into this. I had
to investigate what was going on, how do I control it,
how do I work with it? And you know, what
can I do with it? Because at some point I realized,
you know, this is not just for me, this is
for the greater good of the world, which sort of
took kind of a whole new platform as it were.
Speaker 1: So was this during meditations or during the dream dreams
that you're having all this these visions, oh the.
Speaker 2: Vision there were There were dream visitations, and you know,
there are dream visitation based on the fact that a
dream visitation is so crisp and detailed to the nth
degree and you can remember all of the details specifically
for years. For example, I remember my father it visited me.
I can you know this was years ago. I can
remember everything we said. He wasn't opening his mouth. It's
more I guess mental telepathy, are just using the mind.
I remember his smell, I remember the colors, I remember
exactly where we were. So all these dream visitations are
very specific, and they were easily discernible from just a
regular dream. The regular dream, you can't really remember what happened.
It's kind of vague, you know, I quit sure what
it's about, and you, you know, you easily forget it.
Dream visitations you'll remember the details for years on end.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's really interesting because, I mean, we all
have dreams, and I've been told by many different spiritual
masters and clairvoyance and mediums that dreams there's no accidental dream.
That every dream is a message. Every dream is something
that they're trying to tell you. Sometimes they get sometimes
they're clumsy in the in the messaging because they can't
just go straight out and say, hey, this is what's happening.
They'll show you some sort of analogy or representation of
what they're trying to say. Rarely do I get when
I have my dreams. I rarely get voices. They come
in sometimes like the people talking, and I remember the voices.
That happens every once in a while, but most of
the times it's just big giant analogies of things that,
like the analogy is not the word I'm using, kind
of like some sort of story trying to tell me
something deeper about what's coming, whether it's something I have
to do, something that's going to come in the future
to prepare myself. Sometimes it's just a visitation of an
old grandparent just wants to just hey, man, just letting
you know I'm here and I want to show you
some love tonight, those kind of things. Is that what's
your take on it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, what's interesting is we've discovered over the years
that everybody travels the astral realm at night. Every night,
we're connected to the ethereal chord. It's a silver cord,
and that's how our astral body travels to the astral plane,
and that's where we kind of meet up with our
family and spirit regardless of what plane they're on. That's
kind of like the meeting point, and so every night
we're actually meeting with different people and most of the
time we're not going to remember it.
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Speaker 2: And that's why a lot of people just don't even
remember their dreams at all. They don't even they say,
oh I don't dream like, yeah, you do. You just
don't realize you do. A lot of it's obviously subconscious.
A lot of it's obviously your mind grappling with all
the garbage that you're subconscious is dealing with during the day.
But there's also a lot of times when you are
in fact connecting with spirit in the actual realm on
a regular basis.
Speaker 1: So the definition of a medium, can you explain what
a medium is? And the question that many people is
do see dead people?
Speaker 2: Well, what I say is sometimes talking to dead peels
a lot more fun than talking to people who are
walking around on the street.
Speaker 1: I find I could imagine, I could imagine.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's a lot more fun. And they got
us as as a humor too, because what's great about
spirit is their personality does not change. I can give
you an example. There was one time I was sitting
for reading, giving somebody a contact, and the first person
who walked in for the reading was this man who
just had this uproarious laughter and then he's got this
pint of beer in his hand. He goes, hey, you
want to drink I just burst in a laughter. It
couldn't help it. And this kind of stuff happens all
the time. It's their personality they want to bring through.
And that's how you connect with spirit is right off
the back. You know their personality, you feel their personality,
you describe that personality immediately people go, oh, yeah, that's right,
that's Harry or whatever.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So that's the kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Do you ever like just sitting around during the day
and then someone walks by you and you're like, I'm sorry,
excuse me, do you know a John because he's here
and he's got a message for you.
Speaker 2: Oh, you never do that.
Speaker 1: You never do that. No, no, no, But but does
that come in? Though, I mean you might not say it,
But does do those messages come in? Going to see
that lady in the corner over there? Does that ever happen? No?
Speaker 2: Because I hate what what mediums do is we turn
on and turn off our portal. It's kind of like
we have a sign, right, we flick on the sign
open for business open literally literally, we we think ourselves
open for business. Come on in, We invite spirit in,
and then we just kind of like step into this
daydream like state. You know, It's like The best way
I can describe it would be, I think when you're
back in grade school and it's like, you know, you
got like two weeks left the school. You're zoning out,
staring out the window window exactly, your mind is outside,
you're not in that classroom. That's daydreaming. That's the same
thing when you're sort of in a light altered state
and you can act with spirit, you're out here somewhere
right and absolutely what it's about.
Speaker 1: So that's but but you don't actually because I've heard
some mediums seeing people and other people hearing just you know,
coming through that there's no visuals of it, but there's
visuals in their mind. But then there's other mediums that
have visual representations of like literally seeing that people like
in the sixth sense? Is that which is? Which is
the talent that you have or the school that you have?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I definitely see spirits. I'll see the
images they give me. It's in your mind, in my mind,
in my mind, So that's it's clairvoyance. I'll definitely get
all the feelings like their personality, their character, traits, their
hobbies and all the things I like to do. What
were they most like and so I get their feelings
and you know, upbeat, down beat, funny, gregarious, outgoing whatever
it is. So I'll get those feelings. That's really one
of the more tangible aspects of it. And then I'll
also have uh claire audience where I'll start to uh
hear either music, which seems to be a favorite of there,
at least for me, because you know, I love music,
So I've got music. And what Spirit basically does is,
you know, they'll go into our memory bank and they'll
start pulling files as it were, of you know, what's relevant.
They'll say, oh, and they'll kind of go through the
roll deecks and they'll go all right, oh, I see something.
I see a song that that works. Let's plug and play.
And all of a sudden, I'm hearing like a fragment
of a song. I don't know why I'm hearing it,
but I just know I'm hearing it all of a sudden.
It has a very specific relevance to the sitter, and
it's it's abstually bizarre. Or I can think of a
couple of examples, like once I was doing reading for
a woman and all of a sudden, I'm hearing guns
and roses. I'm like, I don't know guns and roses.
Why am I saying guns and roses? But I'm hearing
guns and roses. You want to say guns and roses?
And the woman just goes, oh.
Speaker 1: My god, Oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 2: For the last two weeks, I've been hearing nothing but
on the Rose.
Speaker 1: The Rose.
Speaker 2: Apparently that was there, you know, the couple's favorite group,
I guess. And that kind of stuff happens all the
time because it's so easy to recognize a song.
Speaker 1: And it seems like it's customer. It seems like it's
customized to either you that you understand it, but more
specifically for the person you're reading. So in a similar
explaining it to the audience listening, kind of like when
you have a dream and there's something that means. So
if you're thinking of, let's say politics for whatever reason,
and there's a politician, you know they're going to use
that politician. Or if it's a singer, it's a singer
that you know they're not going to bust out a
singer from the twenties that you have no idea who
they are, a movie star from exactly the thirties or forties.
Speaker 2: Exactly what they're going to do is use your reference
material that's in your memory bank, and they can go
way back because, like like I said, you know, our
minds are basically an open book, and they'll go through
our minds and our memory bank and use what we know.
So that way we can describe it very similar to
let's say symbology, you know, in clearical audience, sorry, in clairvoyance,
they'll use symbology for different meanings, and so they'll start
showing you things that are important to you and you're like, oh, yeah, okay,
I remember that a button that and it has a
certain meaning. Now what they bring through doesn't always have
to have a meaning that you understand. All it requires
is that you understand what they're staying or the information
they're giving you, and then you give the information to
the sitter. They're the ones that we'll understand it. Mediums
are nothing but a like a relay station. We're kind
of like, yeah, we're literally a condu with a channel
of a relay station, the satellite dish, a telephone booth,
whatever you want to call it. That's what we are.
We're just here in the middle. We're the middle man.
They're trying to dial up the sitter and we're here.
We receive the information and give the signal. That's all
we do, right, is that this.
Speaker 1: If you're having a sitting and you're going a cow
I keep seeing a cowboy hat. Does that mean anything
to you? And they'll be like, oh my god, my
grandpa wore a cowboy hat every day of his life,
or something along those, something real specific to the person you're.
Speaker 2: Reading right right, because think of it. Put the shoe
on the other foot. If you were suddenly in spirit,
how would you describe yourself for somebody else, right, Because
it's not like.
Speaker 1: You're talking to me directly. So like, let's say my
grandfather was sitting here. He knows how to talk to me,
and he knows things about me but you don't. So
he would be like, tell him, tell him about that
time in the shop with this happened, and you're like, oh.
Speaker 2: My god, they shared the peach.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the peach. That whole thing happened with
the peach. Something along those lines.
Speaker 2: Shared memories are a big one because if you can
bring through, if spirit is able to bring through, well,
they're always able to do whatever they want. But if
we're communicating with spirit well enough, we encourage them to
give a shared memories. It's the combination of the personality
and the shared memories that will land the pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: Now does it stress you out physically?
Speaker 2: Stress?
Speaker 1: Does it stress you physically when you when you go
through some of these.
Speaker 2: Because what happens is that when Spirit's bringing through their energy,
I'm receiving you know, their energy. When you've got a
good contact, it's like being in trance. When you're in trance, uh,
you feel the flow spirit. You're energized, literally energized by
spirit energy because that's what spirit is. So when you're
in contact and channeling spirit, you're fully energized. If you
find that you're getting a headache, or you're tired, or
you're exhausted after doing a couple of readings, you haven't
really been connecting well enough with Spirit because you've really
been trying to do it mostly by your own mind,
your own head, as opposed to spiritually connecting.
Speaker 1: In other words, using you're trying to muscle your way
through it. If you will, and you'll get tired. You'll
get tired.
Speaker 2: You'll get tired if you if you're not connected well enough,
if you've got a good connection, then you're just going
to be receiving all that uh, you know, love and
energy and that healing. Because that's a great thing about
uh being a medium is said for all the healing
that the sitter gets as a channel, I get a
residual portion of that healing as is a beautiful feeling.
Speaker 1: Right right now, I have to ask you. I mean
you you were talking about you being a Wall Street guy,
and you you know, kind of denounced all of this
for a couple of decades, as you said, and then
you just rediscovered it. It kind of just came knocking
on your door. It's kind of almost like spirit just said,
let him have his fun, let him do his thing.
He's going to figure it out and then this is
not his path, but we're gonna let him go down
this road for a little bit and and then we're
gonna knock on the door and go, okay, it's time. Here,
here we go. How did the how did your your
social group around you, whether it be colleagues, family, how
do you how did you deal with that? Because I
can imagine that not everybody was like, oh think you're
a medium now, Oh oh, thank God, I've been I mean, honestly,
I've been waiting. I mean been waiting for this, Chris. So,
so how did you deal with it? On a second,
just on a on a human level. How did you
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great question. In the beginning, as what
happens with most mediums is in the beginning, I was,
I was in the closet about my medium ship. Right.
I was like, no, this dicause can't be me. I'm
just not gonna let end anybody know, right, because I
was thinking, oh, yeah, I must be our total odd
ball here. This is, this is going crazy. And you know,
clearly Spirit been leading me by the nose, you know,
all this time, trying to make me aware of it.
And eventually, as I started to accept it over a
course of years, I'm like, all right, you know, I
can start to slowly crawl out of the closet and eventually,
you know, it's like, yeah, hey, guess what, I am
a medium. And so my friends said, hey, well that's
great phenomenal. Other friends not so much, right, right, And
there's always.
Speaker 1: And and I'm a family and all of that. I
mean everybody around you, because I have to imagine there's
certain people that be like great and other people are like.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. In the beginning. In the beginning, well, at
first I thought I was going crazy, and then I
was like, oh my god, I'm I'm hearing voices and
the only people that hear voices are like these incredible
gurus or people that are going crazy. Well, I know
I'm not a guru. Oh my god, I'm going to
not I'm going nuts. I'm going nuts. And so I
when I started to tell my wife about this, she
was a little perplexed at first, because you know, she's,
you know, not very religious or spiritual at all, and
she's like what huh? And I was like hesitant to
tell her, and I started like dripping pieces of information
to her over time, and you know, over time she
kind of got used to it, and now she's like, okay, great, and.
Speaker 1: Does she does she does? She abuse the the servicer sometimes, Chris, Chris,
what I need to talk to grandma. I need to
talk to grandma. I want to ask her about about
what we're going through here right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Well, the funny thing is that people sitters
can actually shut themselves off without realizing it because they'll
either be skeptical or they'll have a negative attitude about it,
or they can block it just with their thoughts. Because
is when a sitter is uh trying to be open
or say, trying to you know, connect with the spirit.
They have to be wide open. They have to be
at a point where they are allowing themselves to receive,
be full of love, full of healing, and full of
high vibration. That's the biggest thing. And I always tell
people when I begin a session, it's you know, think
of it. Think of it like a three way energy
cocktail between you, me, and spirit. Spirit's always high energy
and high vibration. Anyway, it's us humans that are the
lumps on the log, right, We gotta we got to
raise our vibration. So and it's kind of like the analogy.
Also like plugging a phone into a wall. If you
plug your cell phone in the wall and you're charging
up your battery, all of a sudden, you can start
getting callsm anywhere in the world. Well, we can do
the same thing in the material world. We can plug
ourselves into the spiritual vibration and get a call from
anywhere in the universe.
Speaker 1: Fair enough. Now, now I heard you talk about the
human subtle, subtle energy system.
Speaker 2: What is that? Good question? That's really our aura. It's
all about our aura and the seven different bodies spiritual
bodies that we have. Everybody's got them. Not a lot
of people know about it or see it. But our
makeup is composed that between the seven different energy bodies
that we've got. The physical body is like the first
and foremost, but it's basically the makeup of all the
other energy bodies that we have. And you can see
the composite, if you will, just in the aura, and
the aura has all the different colors that are manifest
predominantly in those spirit bodies. And when you know, you've
probably heard of chakras and seen chakras, and those colors,
those old resonate out in the aura. And sometimes you know,
they've they've taken photos of the aura that reaches out
to about seven or eight feet and so that's huge,
and so you can really get a sense of what
a person's energy is like. Are they vivid? Are they
do they have vivid colors? Do they have you know,
bright colorful aspects in their aura or they kind of
dull and dark and dingy colors that they're kind of
like brown and blacks and muted colors, and it's just
a reflection of the vibration.
Speaker 1: Interesting. So that's sometimes you meet somebody and you're just
going to go, I want to take a shower afterwards,
because you feel that energy.
Speaker 2: You do everybody and this is what I uh and
so adamant about. Everybody has psychic senses. Everybody has I mean, look,
no farther than your gut instinct. Everyone's got. Oh yeah,
I got a gut instinct. You know. Sometimes you know,
I feel I should do X, Y or Z, And
most of the time we have or it right because
our logical conscious minds yap in a way and we
don't even feel it. But that gun instinct is the
silver plexus and that's the seat of your clear sentience.
And that's one of the major uh, you know, Claire,
is that we work with. And we've also you know,
we'll sometimes walk up to somebody, meet them for the
first time, shake their hand and go hm hmm, I'm
not so sure I like this person. Or maybe you know,
maybe you're at some house or some party or someplace.
You know, walk into a room and you suddenly feel
it's like really heavy dense energy. You're like, oh, this
energy doesn't feel good. That's usually when you've walked into
a room where somebody has just had a massive argument,
because that energy is it's residual energy. There the converse.
The converse is also true. You know, it could be
in a party and you can literally feel the vibe,
you can literally feel the energy.
Speaker 3: I mean, I I went to I was visiting New York,
and I am up a few years ago before the pandemic,
and uh, I went to nine to eleven. I went
down to where we're not eleven happened. I went to
the museum and everything, and I never I just haven't
forgotten it. As I was walking towards it.
Speaker 1: The second I stepped onto the to the side off
the off the street onto the sidewalk on where the
World Trade Center was, it hit me like a ton
of bricks. I was just like, oh it just I
felt the heaviness of that place. And then I consciously,
seriously was just trying to like deal with the energy
that I was coming through. Because you walk down into
the into the museum and you're at you're you're at
the bottom of the World Trade Center where where the
buildings went down, and and and they you're just the
energy that was there. You're just like the sadness the
field people feel that people have reported that going to
Auschwitz and you just you know, and you these places
where there's been tragedy, you could you it's it's stained
the area. The energy of the area has been stained
in that way. Battlefields battlefields as well, they don't it
doesn't go away. Especially it was. It was just really
it was really interesting. And then you know, oddly enough
that when you go to other places where you know,
you're in the middle of a volcano somewhere in Hawaii
or just Hawaii in general.
Speaker 2: Uh is god.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you walk off the plane in
Maui and you're like, oh.
Speaker 2: I'm not going home.
Speaker 1: This is super cool. You feel there's there's a vibe
there that's really interesting. But people do feel. You do feel,
and whether you're aware of it or not, these are
energies that people feel, Yeah, totally, And that's that's the
whole thing.
Speaker 2: And because everything is vibration and one of the things
that being the materialist that I was, I had to
understand what was going on. So I started learning a
little bit about quantum physics. A little bit of knowledge
is a dangerous thing, but nonetheless.
Speaker 1: I dabbled in quantum physic and neuroscience.
Speaker 2: It took kind of what I What I discovered was that,
you know, quantum scientists have learned that ninety nine point
everything in existence is just empty space, and that empty
space is filled with energy. And the example they use
is if you took a carbon atum and you then
went to the nucleus and you expanded that nucleus to
the size of a golf ball the electrono we said,
like two miles away, everything else would be empty space
filled with energy. We'll be right.
Speaker 1: Back after a word from our sponsor, and now back
to the show. It's pretty remark it's yeah, as we start,
I just had a quantum physics a physicist on show.
He hasn't come out yet as of this recording, but
he will be coming. I just had the conversation a
couple of days ago, and and he's a quantum physicist
with who deals in spirit. So he's a very interesting,
very interesting guy, and he was combining he's using quantum
physics to explain spirit yeah, and vice aversa. And he was,
and he's written his massive book about it. But it
was really interesting to see how much science is starting
to catch up to what people have been talking about
for two thousand years in spiritual texts, the concepts, the
ideas there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's also a difference between Newtonian physics.
Speaker 1: Correct, that's materialism versus with the materialist the materialists, or
when everything is like matter based, everything's matter matter matter,
as opposed to quantum physics, which is energy in space, right,
and a whole other conversation, and they still and from
what I understood that conversation, he goes, quantum physically started
around about one hundred years ago, and Einstein was trying
to figure it out, and he goes, yeah, no, one's
it's gotten nowhere since then, Like seriously, on hundred years later,
pretty much everyone's still like there's something here, we just
don't know what it is yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're trying to figure I mean, that's that's what's
so crazy. It's like now they're also talking about, you know,
the dark matter and the universe, what fills the universe.
It's like dark matter? What is dark matter? They don't know,
but it's all theory.
Speaker 1: Right exactly. It's it's but they're always trying to figure
things out here and there. You know, we're trying to
move forward. Now back to the world of spirit. Sir,
can you tell me the difference between spirit guides and angels,
because I mean I've understood you know, I haven't spoken
about angels on the show very much because angels have
a connotation of religious connotation to it. Spirit guides not
so much. I'm not sure, you know, you can call
it a million different things. What are the differences between
the two?
Speaker 2: Sure, the spirit guides are guides that have evolved so
far that they no longer need to reincarnate. They're so
highly evolved that now they are seeking to help others
still in the physical and they literally have to go
through intense training in order to be a guide.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And you've got just within the guides, you've got multiple
levels of guides themselves. You know, each each guide is
more advanced than the other, and it's just a state
of evolution. Uh, you know, I remember, we're we're in
transuence and uh, somebody somehow got in contact with their
their own guide, and the guides started saying, don't think
of us as anybody special. What is farther along the
path that's like? And I heard that and I was like, oh,
that makes a lot of sense. Okay, I get it.
Speaker 1: So these are these like ascended masters, not.
Speaker 2: So much ascended masters. Those are much hot. Those are
perhaps the peak, if you will, Those are even higher.
But spirit guys are with us all of our lives. Uh.
And you know when I say lives, I mean as in,
you know, multiple lives we live. Our main guide is
typically the one that is going to be with us
for most of our incarnated lives. We'll have a band
of uh inner guides, around seven guides or so, and
then we'll have anywhere from seven to ten that we'll
have another outer band that's probably another you know, ten
iss and then we'll have beyond that a whole series
of subcontractor guides that we can write.
Speaker 1: I love that subcontractor guides. Are there good benefits of
the spirit world?
Speaker 2: I don't know. You gotta sign up with the union.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that. I'm assuming there's not many unions up
there other.
Speaker 2: Than the only one, right, But the subtract or subcontractor
guides are the ones that you can call on for
specific things. You know, these might have been guides who
might have been experts in their specialty whatever they're you know,
maybe under the earth they are a specialist in real estate.
Maybe you're trying to figure out something in real estate.
You've got a real estate guide, and you call upon them.
They'll be in your life till that thing, whatever it
is you're looking for, it's fixed, and then they go away.
Speaker 1: But do how do they help the situation if they're
not if they're not you, if they can't have a
direct conversation with them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're What they do is they put things,
Like like any guides, what they do is they will
put things on your path. They'll put things in front
of you so that you'll be aware, you'll see them,
or you'll start to in your mind become aware of
certain ideas that.
Speaker 1: Push you to our book, push it to a choruse
push it to something else that gives you the idea that, oh,
maybe I should pick up a Tony Robbins book and like, oh,
that Tony Robbins book is exactly what I needed at
this moment in my life, because this is where I'm going.
But they're the ones that throw the idea into your head.
Because I still remember there was one time when I
started my whole journey in podcasting. It's over seven years ago,
almost eight years ago, but I launched seven years ago.
And the thing that got me started was this book
that was sitting in my Amazon list, and all of
a sudden, I was just like really just trying to
figure something out. I'm like, I'm in a really dark
place in my life. You know. We had a business
that wasn't doing great and I was lost, and I
was like, I need to find something. And all of
a sudden, someone something came into my mind to say,
check a look at Amazon. And I looked at Amazon
and first thing that pops up is The four Hour
work Week by Tim Ferris. Oh yeah right, and that book.
I was like, you know what, I'm going to let
me just read that. And that was the book that
started all the education about online businesses, how to build this,
and it's brought me to where I am today. But
it was all started with that book that launched me
into the direction that I am. The course of my
life really.
Speaker 2: Right right, and you know that'll that'll happen. I mean,
for me, the same kind of thing happened was that
before I even had my awakening, probably a good twenty
ish years ago, I for some reason I had this
voracious appetite for reading books on metaphysics, spirit mediums. I
didn't know why. I was just fascinated by it. But
here I am still mister materialist going on. I don't
believe in any of this stuff, but I was still
fascinated by it. So spirit was It was kind of like,
you know, well, hands on Grudtel, right, They're dropping breadcrumbs
of book titles in front of me. And it just
kept on, you know, getting more and more severe until
I'm on my bus writing to work and day and
I just happened to look out, you know, I'm on
the the buses on four five, We're coming around the
curve and has happened to glance out, and staring me
in the face was this gigantic go board that said,
uh lights, what was it? Lights between us? You know,
Signed for the Modern World. It was this most amazing book.
I was like, oh, I got to get that book.
And yeah, I didn't have any I didn't have very
good memory, but I knew how exactly what I was
going to do that night when I got home.
Speaker 1: That's that's amazing. Now, Okay, so do we understand what
sparait guys are? So what are angels? Then?
Speaker 2: Angels? From my best understanding of what angels are is
they are the representation of the divine source energy. And
I too like to avoid using the word like God
or anything, because it does have the connotation of religious aspects,
and you know that turns some people off. So I
always refer to it as source because that's like the
Big Bang. We're all kind of from source, right, And
so from what I understand, it's basically, angels are the
representation of source energy, and it's you know, they're similar
in concept to spirit guys, except they're so evolved. These
are being sort of never incarnated. Spirit GUIDs always have
incarnated because they have to know what it's like to
live on this human planet, this material planet, and go
through the pains of humanity. I mean, we're with you know,
the pains humanity in all like seihood. This sucks, it hurts.
Speaker 1: Right right, and yeah, completely completely understandable. Now do our
our relatives with us are with us? Like, so you know,
our grandparents hanging out, our aunts and uncles are maybe
some dear friends, people we had deep connections with. Once
they pass, are they there helping us? Are they there
just watching what's going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, our departed family and loved ones and spirit do
try to help us. Uh, they're not, you know, our guides.
A lot of people confuse, you know, our family with
the spirit guides. They're typically not the same because they're
not as evolved, they haven't been trained, they have been
they're not that far along the path.
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Speaker 2: But what our family is, they are helpers. They are
there for us. They are trying to help us as
time progresses. So you'll always feel you know their love,
and you'll sometimes you know, you might be in a
reading and you know the oldest come through something. They're
not always going to be there and not always going
to come through. But uh, it's sort of a question
of what's the greatest need, what's the highest need? Because
spirit always meets the highest need, not necessarily the once.
So what I always say, it's very much like the
rolling Stones. Can't always get what you want, but you
get what you need.
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly now What is intuition is that spirit guides
or the universal you know or source trying to guide
you through the path.
Speaker 2: Intuition is again, uh, it's one of your clayers, it's
your it's your gut inscts, your clear sentience, you're you're, you're,
you're feeling it. So when you're in contact with either uh,
spirit or your guys, you're gonna feel in your gut
because it's that gut instinct, it's your intuition. As you
connect with spirit, you've got to basically be listening to
it because you'll you'll you'll have like a either a
feeling that that you ought to be doing something, or
like a little tiny word comes into your mind or something,
and it's so subtle that it's difficult to even hear
because your mind's chattering away. If you just allow the
thought to stay there and quiet that monkey mind, you're
everyone's got this monkey mind. Everyone's just like chatting away,
like you know, bouncing off the walls. But if we
allow that uh, you know, clear sentience to open up
and just listen to what spirits trying to tell us,
we'll hear it. Then the key is we've got to
act on it because how many times to like you
walked outside and said, hm, I feel like I ought
to bring my umbrella. Yeah, forget it, you come back,
you're soaking wet. That's an example like that.
Speaker 1: So we've been talking about spirits and spirit guides and
so on. What is the spirit realm like from your experience?
Speaker 2: What's really interesting is that the spirit always tries to
show themselves where they are now in reading as well,
they'll do is they'll paint pictures of what they're like,
where they are, of the scenery where they are, so
they can kind of I don't want to say alleviate,
but calm and soothe the sitter's minds. So the sitter goes, okay, yes,
my dad or spouse or whatever, they're in a great place,
because the spirit will start showing us examples of where
they are. I can remember one time when when a spirit,
I think it was somebody's father was coming through and
reading and he started showing himself this beautiful house, this
italianate villa, just beautiful on the inside. There's this incredible
porch on the outside with you know the pillars on
the top that are made of stone or something that
were like kind of curling all the way up, and
there's also like these olive trees just in the background.
And then you looked out you saw the beautiful field.
And what was amazing was that everything I was describing
was the italianate villa that he had lived in when
he was still alive. So apparently what he's trying to
get across is what he had transitioned to was a
place that was similar to but only more beautiful, because
as described it, that's what the two daughters were saying.
They're saying that sounds very much like villa, except for
the fact that it's got that many more colors. The
spirit world is got unlimited amounts of color. It's so vibrant,
it's so colorful, and it's got and the colors are
representation of the vibration because remember color is nothing but
a vibration, and likewise, the colors are giving off sound
music because again the everything is a vibration. So we're
just dealing with vibrations to both colors and sounds, and
it's very peaceful. You've got seven different planes where as
each person is evolving over time, they're moving up to
a more rarefied, if you will, existence and more evolved.
These existence takes time, but as you allow yourself to learn,
if you allow yourself to grow, you move up and
you're kind of moving along your spiritual path in the
spiritual world.
Speaker 1: Do you do you fear death anymore?
Speaker 2: No? Sometimes these days, sometimes I welcome it.
Speaker 1: With the way the way the world's going exactly.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I want to check you out.
Speaker 1: I mean, then when I can get off this train, man,
I want to I want to head out exactly. But before,
before the awakening, you had the same fear of death
as many of us too.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I mean I was like, oh God,
don't let this happen today, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was like, because everybody wants to go
to heaven, but just not now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And you know, we're never really quite sure
what's on the other side. We're like, what, you know,
where am I going to land?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: God, I hope I'm going to land in the right place, right.
Speaker 1: But I guess after you've been obviously your experience and everything,
you're like, Okay, so you're here to go through your
through your mission and help as many people as you
can and evolve your own your own soul.
Speaker 2: And yes, is exactly.
Speaker 1: This is probably not the first life you've done this.
Speaker 2: People have said that. Actually, so my mentors who have
done spiritual assessments on me have actually said that that
it's every lifetime it's gotten progressively greater or stronger, stronger. Yeah,
because it's like, apparently in one of my lifetimes recently,
I was like a monk, very focused on spirituality, which
I thought monks were more religious, but apparently this one
was very spiritual. And there's another one there was very
much like a teacher, a spiritual teacher. And I know
one of my guides is a rather profound spiritual teacher,
and one of my guides is a Native American healer.
So it's very interesting that they would start to come
through this way. Apparently I've had some kind of relation there.
Speaker 1: But the spirit guys are are beings that won't reincarnate.
They have now they're they're done, they're done with they're
done with this level of the game. They're on another
level of the game. They're the next.
Speaker 2: Together, all all all together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're not coming back.
Speaker 2: No, No, they've done their they've done their soul duty.
Speaker 1: Literally, Now you were mentioning the monkey mind? Is Is
there a way or any advice you can give us
to be able to quiet our minds to a place
where we can listen and hear these these either messages
or at least feel the the guidance that comes through this,
the things that we all kind of understand with the
intuition and the gut instinct. And you're like, I don't
go into that business deal because you feel like this
is not a good deal. You can't trust that person,
that kind of stuff. But a lot of times we
ignore because of the monkey brain. What can we do
to quiet down? I meditate. I'm a heavy meditator and
that's really helped ground me and open me up to
a lot of things. What do you what's your advice?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, meditations perhaps the first and foremost thing that
anybody and everybody should be doing if they want to
a calm the selp was down. But also be begin
to receive and or connect with spirit, because you can't
really hear or understand what's going on if your mind is,
you know, going twenty miles a minute, I mean twenty
miles a second. It's just like it's just going way
too fast. So meditation is critical. Find a guided meditation
that really resonates with you, and you've got to meditate
every day. It's it's less the duration as much as
the consistency. So if you can meditate ten maybe fifteen
minutes a day every day, then all of a sudden
you'll find yourself. After maybe six months, you'll really start
to see yourself beginning to shift, beginning to open up,
being able to realize more that's around you. And so
the meditation is absolutely critical.
Speaker 1: This is really interesting. Even a few times as we've
been talking today, time seems to be a prerequisite for spirit,
meaning that anything that really is valued or is valuable
in our evolution takes time, takes not months. You just
said nine months later, you know, you'll start to feel
like that's a substantial amount of time for someone to
do something just without any results. Whereas in spirit we
so many times people especially in the West, I want,
I want, can I get enlightened tomorrow? How can I hack?
How can I bio hack enlightenment?
Speaker 2: Like you know a life hack plase a life hack
or or.
Speaker 1: A soul hack for enlightenment. Uh a trademarks uh no,
But like from your experience, you know, going through all
of this. You don't talk about spirit and evolution of
your soul or of your spirit even in a lifetime.
You talk about it in years, in decades before substantial
things start to open up and start to happen. And
you know, when you meditate, like I've been meditating six years.
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor
and now back to the show. It took me a
long time, took me prior year before it started to
get real, real benefit from it. And then now it's
it's kind of a snowball. Like now it's it grows
and it's you know, I could tap into it really
easily and things like that. But it's like any any
major skill that you need to do, it takes time.
But with spirit, I've noticed even in the spiritual text,
it's just like, yeah, that's not this decade, next decade.
You're just like, yeah, my god, so what's your what's
your feeling on that?
Speaker 2: Well, it's it's definitely true that we have to learn
how to be patient, we have to learn how to
be allow ourselves to evolve in our time because our
time and spirits time are two very different things. Because,
as you probably know, spirit doesn't have any time. The
reason they don't have any time is because they're not physical,
and time is a function of distance they are. Therefore,
it's man made.
Speaker 1: So without there's time is based about our rotation around
the Sun. If we were in Jupiter, our time would
be different. If we were in a different galaxy, our
quote unquote time would be different. So time is a
construct that we've created to just kind of move things
along for ourselves. But it doesn't really exist. I mean,
if you just scientifically, it doesn't really exist.
Speaker 2: No, no, not at all. And that's the thing. We
feel it exists because we've grown up that way. We've
you know, we we we deal with the Sun and
it's always going around for that with the twenty three
and fifty twenty three hours of fifty four minutes or
something like that, and you know where we're working with that.
Yet the point is that's a physical construct. Spirit's not physical.
Therefore there is no construct related at the time to them.
It's they measure things based on milestones, you know, what
has happened to them. So that's really like mile markers.
Speaker 1: Right exactly exactly. So so many of us come down
here looking, uh, looking for a mission, looking for a
purpose in life, and so many of us are caught
up in you know, going being in the stock market
and like, who wants.
Speaker 2: To do that?
Speaker 1: So like working in the stock market for two decades,
obviously you were off your path. This wasn't your true path,
but something pulled you back in. What is there any
advice you can give us that we can kind of
find our meaning, our purpose, our mission in this life.
What we're here to learn a little bit quicker, or
just something to help us guide us because so many
of us are lost.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, And that's kind of the biggest thing that
I'm always trying to help you'ple do is to find
out what is their mission. And the thing for me
that I found out is that the way you can
really discover or at least unfold what your purpose is
is to find out what gives you the greatest joy.
Because so many people are saying, Okay, well, I got
to support my family, I gotta do this work, I
got to go to Las Vegas and win the lottery
or whatever it is. And the concept is, what is
it that gives you the greatest joy? And it's got
to be joy from deep, deep, deep down within most
of the time, you'll find that helping other people in
some fashion will give you the greatest joy. And it's
not something where you're getting recognized for it specifically, but
the fact that you're actually helping another human being just
just typically makes you feel that much better. I mean,
imagine the last time you were, you know, helping somebody out.
Maybe you held the door for a senior citizen, or
you got somebody's paper, or you smile to somebody who
didn't look so happy, and all of a sudden they
were tired on your smile. You made their day. I mean,
these little things. It doesn't have to be like this
monstrous type you know action. It can even be the
little thing. So if you're starting to do that on
a regular basis, and then you start to kind of
increase it, like maybe you're working at a home shelter,
maybe you're working at a soup kitchen, maybe you're you know,
anonymously donating whatever some percentage of your you know, wealth,
it's like, what can you do to help other people?
And that's and that's ultimately what's going to help you
find it, because it's it's your inner joy, and that's
really our mission is joy or that's why we came
Dad here is who have joy but also undergo the
tough lessons of the Earth School.
Speaker 1: Of the Earth School, no question about it. Now speaking
of the Earth School, the Earth is having a little
bit of a problem right now. There's a lot of
stuff going on between pandemics and economies and politics and
you know, different kinds of you know, war and aggression
that's going on around the world. There seems to be
a shift going on. There seems to be something happen.
There seems to be something in the air, if you will,
that's just not COVID. Something else seems to be in
the air. There seems to be a shift going on.
I'd love to hear your point of view of what
is going on. What have you heard from spirit and
source about why we're going through this and where we're
heading for this, because I don't think we're not at
the bottom yet. I think we still got we got
a little bit of go before we hit the bottom.
But what's your what's your feeling?
Speaker 2: Well, it's a great question because I was in a
transcircle to somebody and he was connecting with his guide
and what came out was this beautiful commentary about everything
that was happening, and it basically said in some that
the reason mankind is going through all this is to
help us to work together, to help us to try
to no longer be separate, but to come together as one,
to try to love one another again, work with one
another again, and try to bring back peace and harmony
to the world, and kept saying, you know, we will
not give you more than you can handle, but this
is one way we know that you will be forced
to come together in a unity to fix all the
problems that you were experiencing.
Speaker 1: So it seems that that's what's happening, because I mean,
you know, when the pandemic hit, it was hit, it
effected the entire planet at the same time. Its just
something I've never seen before. Now, I've never even heard
of something completely affecting the entire world at the at
the exact same moment. And we're all there was a
couple of months in the pandemic that we all were
at home. The entire world was at home, not moving. Boats,
weren't shipping, the flights weren't going anywhere like it was.
It was done, and you're just like this seems insane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: It seems insane. There's a lot of there's a lot
of talk about connecting to our higher selves. What does
that mean to you as far as the higher self
meaning the is that meaning our source our soul is
when you're connecting to higher self? And if that's the case,
how do you have a closer connection to your soul?
What really matters and not this meat suit that we
walk around in?
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, exactly. Well, I mean, if you think about it,
the soul actually has kind of almost two parts. There's
the inner soul that is basically the vehicle to our spirit,
and there's the higher soul, the higher self, that is
remaining in the spirit world, so that when we transition back,
we ultimately are reconnecting with our higher self or higher
soul that remains there, and we actually are able to
sometimes if we connect with it here from the physical,
we're actually able to get a different perspective. You may
sometimes some think at this bizarre feeling or bizarre view
and different from a totally different perspective. You're like, WHOA,
what did I just get that idea? And it's you know,
it's your idea, but it's something where all of a sudden,
the view and the perspective of the view has completely shifted.
You're now looking down at yourself, and your awareness is
from a different plane altogether, as opposed to you know,
I'm just here on this level and that's all I know,
that's all I see. So it's a very different perspective.
I guess you'd put it now.
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about your book, The Spirit
Beside Us? How did this come to be? And you know,
was this kind of like a channeled book or does
it come through you? How did that? How did that hole?
How did it come to be? We'll be right back
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Speaker 2: It's funny you mentioned that because it really went from
blank page to published in about three or four months.
Speaker 1: That's insane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was insane, totally. It it started out, is
it sort of like you know, do you I'd like
to get my thoughts down on paper. I'd like to
get you know, the world to know what's going on.
And then it just started flowing, like you know, the
damn it burst open and I just went wild working
at it. And I remember showing my manuscript to some
of my mentors and they kind of looked at me
and they said, you do realize it about half of
that book so automatically written. And I'm like, oh, that
explains why it was so fast.
Speaker 1: It's just coming through you with your your as they say,
a spiritual stink on it. But it was coming through
you as a conto it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I mean they were moving my fingers faster
and I knew what was going on. And the next
thing I know, it's just, you know, plug and play.
I'm like, all right, letter, it's done.
Speaker 1: It's done. To get out there. I'm going to ask
you a couple of questions that I ask all my guests.
What is your mission in this life?
Speaker 2: My mission in this life is to raise a spiritual healing,
the spiritual awareness of consciousness and of humanity. Is to
really let the world know that we are not just
this one life. Let the world know that the spirit
lives on and that it's pure love and that it's
nothing to be frightened of, not like a Hollywood ghost story,
because that's what comes through, is pure love and healing.
And if people know that their loved ones live on
in a higher state, and they know that they're bringing
through transformative love and healing. Then your reality completely changes.
It's very much like Plato's allegory of the cave where
he had, you know, the three prisoners, you know, chained
to the wall. They didn't know anything about, you know,
what was on the outside of the cave because they
never left the cave. One prisoner breaks free, sees the
real world, sees people, trees, animals, sunshine, vegetation, absolutely surprise
of the beautiful world. Goes running back, tell us his
co prisoners, Hey, you'll never believe what I saw out there,
and not even believing because beyond their understanding, they have
no way of knowing right exactly.
Speaker 1: It's very similar to if we would have been telling
people one hundred years ago about an iPhone, they'd be like,
what's a phone?
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: So. And what is the ultimate purpose of life?
Speaker 2: The ultimate purpose of life on earth is to learn
all the lessons that our spirit comes down to learn.
It's a tough life, but otherwise if we didn't experience
these lessons, then we wouldn't learn them. It's very much
like the five year old who you can tell ten times,
don't that hot stove or else you burn yourself? Does
it five years old. Ever listen, No, but one day he,
you know, touches that hot stove and ah, he will
never touch that hot stove again because he experienced pain.
It's like us. We have to experience these frustrations, the
pains of life to learn the lessons. That's why so
many times life seems so painful.
Speaker 1: And where can people find out more about you? Pick
up your book and find out all the services and
things that you do.
Speaker 2: Sure, well, you can look at my website which is
www dot montclairmedium dot com. You can find a book
on Amazon. Just look at Spirits beside Us. And you
know that's really If you go to those two primary portals,
those are really everything else. Will you know you'll see
exactly the same information both on Facebook, on Twitter and Instagram.
It's to all Montclair Medium.
Speaker 1: Chris Man. It has been a pleasure talking to you,
my friend. Thank you so much for sharing your journey
with us and answering some some spiritual questions. I know
a lot of our listeners have, and I appreciate all
the hard work that you've been doing over the course
of your your life so far and trying to help
as many people as you can. So I appreciate you,
my friend. Thank you again.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much, Alex, great being here.
Speaker 1: Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today.
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