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let's dive in to today's episode. I like to welcome

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to the show, Chris Littncott. How you doing, Chris? Hey?

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Speaker 2: I like, how are you doing? Great? Now here?

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Speaker 1: Good? I'm good, my friend, I'm good. Thank you so

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much for coming on the show. I'm excited to talk

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to you because I haven't spoken to many mediums on

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the show before, and I'm fascinated with the processing and

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the messages and all of that kind I know a

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lot of people are a little confused about what mediums

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are and what's the difference between that and a clairvoyant

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and a psychic and all these all these other kind

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of terms that we know before we get into it.

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How did you start this journey? What was the journey

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that got you to the place where you started to

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be awakened?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good question if you want to think

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about it. From the very beginning, I was aware of

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spirit as a child, but at the time, of course,

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I didn't really know what it was, you know, because

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it's when I was a child, probably six maybe seven

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years old, I was in contact with other people that

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were outside and they were having full on conversations with me,

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but nobody else can see them, and I didn't know

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what was going on. I thought, oh, it's just my

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active imagination, right, this is great. And then at nighttime

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there sometimes where I would actually hear voices in my room,

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which was a kid scared me to death. I thought

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there was like a monster that just coming from under

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my bed to take me away, right all the Hollywood

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ghost stories. And at one point I even had a

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hand touched my back while I was on my bed,

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on my stomach, trying to sleep, And yeah, that was

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for me. It kind of like almost like the culmination

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of what was going on as a child that is

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kind of starting to beg them to go away, beg

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them to go away, and sure enough I got my

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wish they went away, and then I suppressed it, probably

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for you know, a whole bunch of decades. I said, now, yeah,

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I don't want to deal with this, and I went

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into finance, became this very logical, materialistic, you know, guy

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who was just not even thinking about anything spiritual, religious,

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or spirit of any kind. And I was noticing that

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I was getting really really stressed out at work because

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I was on wall three. I was going absolutely crazy

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with my job. And I heard somewhere, oh, yeah, you

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want to try meditation. Meditation was really a las thing.

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I was like, meditation, you know, I looked at people

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who did meditation is you know a little bit out there,

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you know, somebody from the Hindu cush. I'm like, uh,

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that's not for me, right, So I just said, well,

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you know, let's go find a video or rather an

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audio track that resonates with me and maybe it'll work.

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So I did, and I became so hooked on that

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one particular track that I wound up doing it every

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day for you know, fifteen twenty minutes or so. So

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that way, I'd be really relaxed in the morning and

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I'd go to work really really chilled out. But I

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did this every day for about twelve months. And then

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at the end of that twelve month period, I'm in

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my man cave, because every guy's got to have his

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man cave. And what winds up happening is I am somehow,

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you know, after about thirty minutes I'm mentally taken away

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to some space that's very much of a you know,

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out of this realm area, and I just remember being

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I don't want to say visited by, but seeing these

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four people in silhouette. There were you know, the spirit

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people that were coming to me, and I felt I

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recognized them. I didn't want to know who they were.

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is the tallest and felt the most powerful, I noticed,

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was suddenly sending like this energy beam straight through my

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chest out through my back, which you know, shocked the

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but Jesus that it makes them like, wait a second,

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I mean I'm not sleeping. I mean this is real

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because I could feel it. And then it just kept

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on escalating from there, going to the point where all

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of a sudden I began to feel I was completely loved.

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I was completely at one with the universe, and I

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began to realize the the singularity that we're all here,

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and the illusion of the duality in the physical and

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it really shocked me. And soon after for that awakening,

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all my family in spirit started coming to me in

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rapid succession in these dream visitations, and then I started

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to feel people around me I could feel the energy.

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I could feel the tingling all around me. I could

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I could sense energy, and I knew there were people

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around me, just like I was when I was a child,

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quote unquote reopened, right, And that's kind of when I

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had to start, you know, looking into this. I had

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to investigate what was going on, how do I control it,

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how do I work with it? And you know, what

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can I do with it? Because at some point I realized,

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you know, this is not just for me, this is

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for the greater good of the world, which sort of

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took kind of a whole new platform as it were.

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Speaker 1: So was this during meditations or during the dream dreams

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that you're having all this these visions, oh the.

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Speaker 2: Vision there were There were dream visitations, and you know,

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there are dream visitation based on the fact that a

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dream visitation is so crisp and detailed to the nth

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degree and you can remember all of the details specifically

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for years. For example, I remember my father it visited me.

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I can you know this was years ago. I can

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remember everything we said. He wasn't opening his mouth. It's

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more I guess mental telepathy, are just using the mind.

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I remember his smell, I remember the colors, I remember

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exactly where we were. So all these dream visitations are

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very specific, and they were easily discernible from just a

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regular dream. The regular dream, you can't really remember what happened.

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it's about, and you, you know, you easily forget it.

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Dream visitations you'll remember the details for years on end.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's really interesting because, I mean, we all

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have dreams, and I've been told by many different spiritual

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masters and clairvoyance and mediums that dreams there's no accidental dream.

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That every dream is a message. Every dream is something

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that they're trying to tell you. Sometimes they get sometimes

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they're clumsy in the in the messaging because they can't

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just go straight out and say, hey, this is what's happening.

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They'll show you some sort of analogy or representation of

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what they're trying to say. Rarely do I get when

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I have my dreams. I rarely get voices. They come

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in sometimes like the people talking, and I remember the voices.

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That happens every once in a while, but most of

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the times it's just big giant analogies of things that,

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like the analogy is not the word I'm using, kind

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of like some sort of story trying to tell me

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something deeper about what's coming, whether it's something I have

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to do, something that's going to come in the future

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to prepare myself. Sometimes it's just a visitation of an

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old grandparent just wants to just hey, man, just letting

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you know I'm here and I want to show you

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some love tonight, those kind of things. Is that what's

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your take on it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, what's interesting is we've discovered over the years

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that everybody travels the astral realm at night. Every night,

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we're connected to the ethereal chord. It's a silver cord,

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and that's how our astral body travels to the astral plane,

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and that's where we kind of meet up with our

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family and spirit regardless of what plane they're on. That's

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kind of like the meeting point, and so every night

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we're actually meeting with different people and most of the

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time we're not going to remember it.

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Speaker 2: And that's why a lot of people just don't even

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remember their dreams at all. They don't even they say,

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oh I don't dream like, yeah, you do. You just

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don't realize you do. A lot of it's obviously subconscious.

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A lot of it's obviously your mind grappling with all

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the garbage that you're subconscious is dealing with during the day.

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in fact connecting with spirit in the actual realm on

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a regular basis.

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Speaker 1: So the definition of a medium, can you explain what

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a medium is? And the question that many people is

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do see dead people?

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Speaker 2: Well, what I say is sometimes talking to dead peels

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a lot more fun than talking to people who are

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walking around on the street.

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Speaker 1: I find I could imagine, I could imagine.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's a lot more fun. And they got

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us as as a humor too, because what's great about

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spirit is their personality does not change. I can give

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you an example. There was one time I was sitting

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for reading, giving somebody a contact, and the first person

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who walked in for the reading was this man who

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just had this uproarious laughter and then he's got this

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pint of beer in his hand. He goes, hey, you

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want to drink I just burst in a laughter. It

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couldn't help it. And this kind of stuff happens all

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the time. It's their personality they want to bring through.

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the back. You know their personality, you feel their personality,

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you describe that personality immediately people go, oh, yeah, that's right,

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that's Harry or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: So that's the kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: Do you ever like just sitting around during the day

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and then someone walks by you and you're like, I'm sorry,

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excuse me, do you know a John because he's here

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and he's got a message for you.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you never do that.

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Speaker 1: You never do that. No, no, no, But but does

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that come in? Though, I mean you might not say it,

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that lady in the corner over there? Does that ever happen? No?

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Speaker 2: Because I hate what what mediums do is we turn

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on and turn off our portal. It's kind of like

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we have a sign, right, we flick on the sign

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open for business open literally literally, we we think ourselves

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open for business. Come on in, We invite spirit in,

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and then we just kind of like step into this

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daydream like state. You know, It's like The best way

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I can describe it would be, I think when you're

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back in grade school and it's like, you know, you

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got like two weeks left the school. You're zoning out,

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staring out the window window exactly, your mind is outside,

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you're not in that classroom. That's daydreaming. That's the same

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thing when you're sort of in a light altered state

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and you can act with spirit, you're out here somewhere

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right and absolutely what it's about.

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Speaker 1: So that's but but you don't actually because I've heard

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some mediums seeing people and other people hearing just you know,

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coming through that there's no visuals of it, but there's

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visuals in their mind. But then there's other mediums that

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have visual representations of like literally seeing that people like

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in the sixth sense? Is that which is? Which is

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the talent that you have or the school that you have?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean I definitely see spirits. I'll see the

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images they give me. It's in your mind, in my mind,

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in my mind, So that's it's clairvoyance. I'll definitely get

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all the feelings like their personality, their character, traits, their

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hobbies and all the things I like to do. What

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were they most like and so I get their feelings

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and you know, upbeat, down beat, funny, gregarious, outgoing whatever

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it is. So I'll get those feelings. That's really one

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of the more tangible aspects of it. And then I'll

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also have uh claire audience where I'll start to uh

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hear either music, which seems to be a favorite of there,

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at least for me, because you know, I love music,

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you know, they'll go into our memory bank and they'll

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start pulling files as it were, of you know, what's relevant.

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roll deecks and they'll go all right, oh, I see something.

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I see a song that that works. Let's plug and play.

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of a song. I don't know why I'm hearing it,

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but I just know I'm hearing it all of a sudden.

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it's it's abstually bizarre. Or I can think of a

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couple of examples, like once I was doing reading for

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a woman and all of a sudden, I'm hearing guns

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and roses. I'm like, I don't know guns and roses.

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guns and roses. You want to say guns and roses?

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Speaker 1: My god, Oh my god, oh my god.

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Speaker 2: For the last two weeks, I've been hearing nothing but

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on the Rose.

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Speaker 1: The Rose.

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Speaker 2: Apparently that was there, you know, the couple's favorite group,

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I guess. And that kind of stuff happens all the

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time because it's so easy to recognize a song.

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Speaker 1: And it seems like it's customer. It seems like it's

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customized to either you that you understand it, but more

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specifically for the person you're reading. So in a similar

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explaining it to the audience listening, kind of like when

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you have a dream and there's something that means. So

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if you're thinking of, let's say politics for whatever reason,

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and there's a politician, you know they're going to use

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that politician. Or if it's a singer, it's a singer

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that you know they're not going to bust out a

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singer from the twenties that you have no idea who

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they are, a movie star from exactly the thirties or forties.

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Speaker 2: Exactly what they're going to do is use your reference

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material that's in your memory bank, and they can go

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way back because, like like I said, you know, our

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minds are basically an open book, and they'll go through

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our minds and our memory bank and use what we know.

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So that way we can describe it very similar to

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let's say symbology, you know, in clearical audience, sorry, in clairvoyance,

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they'll use symbology for different meanings, and so they'll start

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showing you things that are important to you and you're like, oh, yeah, okay,

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I remember that a button that and it has a

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certain meaning. Now what they bring through doesn't always have

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to have a meaning that you understand. All it requires

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is that you understand what they're staying or the information

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they're giving you, and then you give the information to

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the sitter. They're the ones that we'll understand it. Mediums

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are nothing but a like a relay station. We're kind

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of like, yeah, we're literally a condu with a channel

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of a relay station, the satellite dish, a telephone booth,

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whatever you want to call it. That's what we are.

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We're just here in the middle. We're the middle man.

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They're trying to dial up the sitter and we're here.

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We receive the information and give the signal. That's all

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we do, right, is that this.

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Speaker 1: If you're having a sitting and you're going a cow

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I keep seeing a cowboy hat. Does that mean anything

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to you? And they'll be like, oh my god, my

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grandpa wore a cowboy hat every day of his life,

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or something along those, something real specific to the person you're.

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Speaker 2: Reading right right, because think of it. Put the shoe

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on the other foot. If you were suddenly in spirit,

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how would you describe yourself for somebody else, right, Because

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it's not like.

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Speaker 1: You're talking to me directly. So like, let's say my

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grandfather was sitting here. He knows how to talk to me,

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and he knows things about me but you don't. So

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he would be like, tell him, tell him about that

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time in the shop with this happened, and you're like, oh.

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Speaker 2: My god, they shared the peach.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, the peach. That whole thing happened with

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the peach. Something along those lines.

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Speaker 2: Shared memories are a big one because if you can

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bring through, if spirit is able to bring through, well,

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they're always able to do whatever they want. But if

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we're communicating with spirit well enough, we encourage them to

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give a shared memories. It's the combination of the personality

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and the shared memories that will land the pretty quickly.

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Speaker 1: Now does it stress you out physically?

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Speaker 2: Stress?

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Speaker 1: Does it stress you physically when you when you go

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through some of these.

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Speaker 2: Because what happens is that when Spirit's bringing through their energy,

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I'm receiving you know, their energy. When you've got a

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good contact, it's like being in trance. When you're in trance, uh,

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you feel the flow spirit. You're energized, literally energized by

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spirit energy because that's what spirit is. So when you're

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in contact and channeling spirit, you're fully energized. If you

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find that you're getting a headache, or you're tired, or

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you're exhausted after doing a couple of readings, you haven't

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really been connecting well enough with Spirit because you've really

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been trying to do it mostly by your own mind,

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your own head, as opposed to spiritually connecting.

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Speaker 1: In other words, using you're trying to muscle your way

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through it. If you will, and you'll get tired. You'll

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get tired.

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Speaker 2: You'll get tired if you if you're not connected well enough,

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if you've got a good connection, then you're just going

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to be receiving all that uh, you know, love and

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energy and that healing. Because that's a great thing about

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uh being a medium is said for all the healing

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that the sitter gets as a channel, I get a

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residual portion of that healing as is a beautiful feeling.

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Speaker 1: Right right now, I have to ask you. I mean

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you you were talking about you being a Wall Street guy,

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and you you know, kind of denounced all of this

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for a couple of decades, as you said, and then

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you just rediscovered it. It kind of just came knocking

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on your door. It's kind of almost like spirit just said,

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let him have his fun, let him do his thing.

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He's going to figure it out and then this is

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not his path, but we're gonna let him go down

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this road for a little bit and and then we're

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gonna knock on the door and go, okay, it's time. Here,

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here we go. How did the how did your your

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social group around you, whether it be colleagues, family, how

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do you how did you deal with that? Because I

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can imagine that not everybody was like, oh think you're

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a medium now, Oh oh, thank God, I've been I mean, honestly,

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I've been waiting. I mean been waiting for this, Chris. So,

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so how did you deal with it? On a second,

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just on a on a human level. How did you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great question. In the beginning, as what

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happens with most mediums is in the beginning, I was,

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I was in the closet about my medium ship. Right.

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I was like, no, this dicause can't be me. I'm

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just not gonna let end anybody know, right, because I

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was thinking, oh, yeah, I must be our total odd

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ball here. This is, this is going crazy. And you know,

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clearly Spirit been leading me by the nose, you know,

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all this time, trying to make me aware of it.

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And eventually, as I started to accept it over a

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course of years, I'm like, all right, you know, I

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can start to slowly crawl out of the closet and eventually,

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you know, it's like, yeah, hey, guess what, I am

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a medium. And so my friends said, hey, well that's

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great phenomenal. Other friends not so much, right, right, And

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there's always.

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Speaker 1: And and I'm a family and all of that. I

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mean everybody around you, because I have to imagine there's

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certain people that be like great and other people are like.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah. In the beginning. In the beginning, well, at

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first I thought I was going crazy, and then I

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was like, oh my god, I'm I'm hearing voices and

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the only people that hear voices are like these incredible

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gurus or people that are going crazy. Well, I know

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I'm not a guru. Oh my god, I'm going to

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not I'm going nuts. I'm going nuts. And so I

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when I started to tell my wife about this, she

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was a little perplexed at first, because you know, she's,

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you know, not very religious or spiritual at all, and

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she's like what huh? And I was like hesitant to

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tell her, and I started like dripping pieces of information

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to her over time, and you know, over time she

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kind of got used to it, and now she's like, okay, great, and.

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Speaker 1: Does she does she does? She abuse the the servicer sometimes, Chris, Chris,

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what I need to talk to grandma. I need to

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talk to grandma. I want to ask her about about

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what we're going through here right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Well, the funny thing is that people sitters

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can actually shut themselves off without realizing it because they'll

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either be skeptical or they'll have a negative attitude about it,

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or they can block it just with their thoughts. Because

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is when a sitter is uh trying to be open

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or say, trying to you know, connect with the spirit.

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They have to be wide open. They have to be

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at a point where they are allowing themselves to receive,

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be full of love, full of healing, and full of

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high vibration. That's the biggest thing. And I always tell

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people when I begin a session, it's you know, think

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of it. Think of it like a three way energy

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cocktail between you, me, and spirit. Spirit's always high energy

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and high vibration. Anyway, it's us humans that are the

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lumps on the log, right, We gotta we got to

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raise our vibration. So and it's kind of like the analogy.

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Also like plugging a phone into a wall. If you

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plug your cell phone in the wall and you're charging

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up your battery, all of a sudden, you can start

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getting callsm anywhere in the world. Well, we can do

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the same thing in the material world. We can plug

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ourselves into the spiritual vibration and get a call from

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anywhere in the universe.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough. Now, now I heard you talk about the

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human subtle, subtle energy system.

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Speaker 2: What is that? Good question? That's really our aura. It's

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all about our aura and the seven different bodies spiritual

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bodies that we have. Everybody's got them. Not a lot

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of people know about it or see it. But our

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makeup is composed that between the seven different energy bodies

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that we've got. The physical body is like the first

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and foremost, but it's basically the makeup of all the

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other energy bodies that we have. And you can see

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the composite, if you will, just in the aura, and

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the aura has all the different colors that are manifest

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predominantly in those spirit bodies. And when you know, you've

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probably heard of chakras and seen chakras, and those colors,

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those old resonate out in the aura. And sometimes you know,

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they've they've taken photos of the aura that reaches out

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to about seven or eight feet and so that's huge,

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and so you can really get a sense of what

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a person's energy is like. Are they vivid? Are they

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do they have vivid colors? Do they have you know,

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bright colorful aspects in their aura or they kind of

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dull and dark and dingy colors that they're kind of

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like brown and blacks and muted colors, and it's just

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a reflection of the vibration.

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Speaker 1: Interesting. So that's sometimes you meet somebody and you're just

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going to go, I want to take a shower afterwards,

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because you feel that energy.

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Speaker 2: You do everybody and this is what I uh and

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so adamant about. Everybody has psychic senses. Everybody has I mean, look,

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no farther than your gut instinct. Everyone's got. Oh yeah,

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I got a gut instinct. You know. Sometimes you know,

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I feel I should do X, Y or Z, And

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most of the time we have or it right because

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our logical conscious minds yap in a way and we

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don't even feel it. But that gun instinct is the

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silver plexus and that's the seat of your clear sentience.

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And that's one of the major uh, you know, Claire,

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is that we work with. And we've also you know,

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we'll sometimes walk up to somebody, meet them for the

471
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first time, shake their hand and go hm hmm, I'm

472
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:32,599
not so sure I like this person. Or maybe you know,

473
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:38,160
maybe you're at some house or some party or someplace.

474
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,039
You know, walk into a room and you suddenly feel

475
00:26:42,079 --> 00:26:46,599
it's like really heavy dense energy. You're like, oh, this

476
00:26:47,079 --> 00:26:51,240
energy doesn't feel good. That's usually when you've walked into

477
00:26:51,279 --> 00:26:54,200
a room where somebody has just had a massive argument,

478
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,559
because that energy is it's residual energy. There the converse.

479
00:26:57,759 --> 00:26:59,759
The converse is also true. You know, it could be

480
00:26:59,799 --> 00:27:01,880
in a party and you can literally feel the vibe,

481
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,319
you can literally feel the energy.

482
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,759
Speaker 3: I mean, I I went to I was visiting New York,

483
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,920
and I am up a few years ago before the pandemic,

484
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,240
and uh, I went to nine to eleven. I went

485
00:27:13,279 --> 00:27:15,880
down to where we're not eleven happened. I went to

486
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,319
the museum and everything, and I never I just haven't

487
00:27:19,319 --> 00:27:21,079
forgotten it. As I was walking towards it.

488
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 1: The second I stepped onto the to the side off

489
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,799
the off the street onto the sidewalk on where the

490
00:27:27,799 --> 00:27:31,000
World Trade Center was, it hit me like a ton

491
00:27:31,079 --> 00:27:34,279
of bricks. I was just like, oh it just I

492
00:27:34,319 --> 00:27:40,039
felt the heaviness of that place. And then I consciously,

493
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,240
seriously was just trying to like deal with the energy

494
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,319
that I was coming through. Because you walk down into

495
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,279
the into the museum and you're at you're you're at

496
00:27:50,279 --> 00:27:52,799
the bottom of the World Trade Center where where the

497
00:27:52,839 --> 00:27:55,319
buildings went down, and and and they you're just the

498
00:27:55,519 --> 00:27:58,599
energy that was there. You're just like the sadness the

499
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,480
field people feel that people have reported that going to

500
00:28:01,519 --> 00:28:04,279
Auschwitz and you just you know, and you these places

501
00:28:04,279 --> 00:28:08,519
where there's been tragedy, you could you it's it's stained

502
00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:11,960
the area. The energy of the area has been stained

503
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,319
in that way. Battlefields battlefields as well, they don't it

504
00:28:15,319 --> 00:28:18,640
doesn't go away. Especially it was. It was just really

505
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,000
it was really interesting. And then you know, oddly enough

506
00:28:22,039 --> 00:28:24,160
that when you go to other places where you know,

507
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,160
you're in the middle of a volcano somewhere in Hawaii

508
00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:28,759
or just Hawaii in general.

509
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:30,319
Speaker 2: Uh is god.

510
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you walk off the plane in

511
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,759
Maui and you're like, oh.

512
00:28:35,559 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 2: I'm not going home.

513
00:28:38,079 --> 00:28:41,799
Speaker 1: This is super cool. You feel there's there's a vibe

514
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:47,119
there that's really interesting. But people do feel. You do feel,

515
00:28:47,119 --> 00:28:48,759
and whether you're aware of it or not, these are

516
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,079
energies that people feel, Yeah, totally, And that's that's the

517
00:28:52,079 --> 00:28:52,519
whole thing.

518
00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 2: And because everything is vibration and one of the things

519
00:28:56,759 --> 00:28:59,640
that being the materialist that I was, I had to

520
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,559
understand what was going on. So I started learning a

521
00:29:02,599 --> 00:29:06,319
little bit about quantum physics. A little bit of knowledge

522
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,720
is a dangerous thing, but nonetheless.

523
00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:10,799
Speaker 1: I dabbled in quantum physic and neuroscience.

524
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,359
Speaker 2: It took kind of what I What I discovered was that,

525
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:22,759
you know, quantum scientists have learned that ninety nine point

526
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,839
everything in existence is just empty space, and that empty

527
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,559
space is filled with energy. And the example they use

528
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,440
is if you took a carbon atum and you then

529
00:29:34,839 --> 00:29:37,559
went to the nucleus and you expanded that nucleus to

530
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,200
the size of a golf ball the electrono we said,

531
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,680
like two miles away, everything else would be empty space

532
00:29:42,839 --> 00:29:46,240
filled with energy. We'll be right.

533
00:29:46,079 --> 00:29:52,319
Speaker 1: Back after a word from our sponsor, and now back

534
00:29:52,359 --> 00:29:57,279
to the show. It's pretty remark it's yeah, as we start,

535
00:29:57,519 --> 00:30:00,400
I just had a quantum physics a physicist on show.

536
00:30:01,079 --> 00:30:02,839
He hasn't come out yet as of this recording, but

537
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,359
he will be coming. I just had the conversation a

538
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,440
couple of days ago, and and he's a quantum physicist

539
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,480
with who deals in spirit. So he's a very interesting,

540
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,839
very interesting guy, and he was combining he's using quantum

541
00:30:17,839 --> 00:30:22,799
physics to explain spirit yeah, and vice aversa. And he was,

542
00:30:23,519 --> 00:30:27,359
and he's written his massive book about it. But it

543
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,720
was really interesting to see how much science is starting

544
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,640
to catch up to what people have been talking about

545
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,319
for two thousand years in spiritual texts, the concepts, the

546
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:39,880
ideas there.

547
00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's also a difference between Newtonian physics.

548
00:30:46,039 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: Correct, that's materialism versus with the materialist the materialists, or

549
00:30:52,599 --> 00:30:56,160
when everything is like matter based, everything's matter matter matter,

550
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,720
as opposed to quantum physics, which is energy in space, right,

551
00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:02,960
and a whole other conversation, and they still and from

552
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,160
what I understood that conversation, he goes, quantum physically started

553
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,200
around about one hundred years ago, and Einstein was trying

554
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,119
to figure it out, and he goes, yeah, no, one's

555
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,279
it's gotten nowhere since then, Like seriously, on hundred years later,

556
00:31:15,119 --> 00:31:17,440
pretty much everyone's still like there's something here, we just

557
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:18,319
don't know what it is yet.

558
00:31:18,839 --> 00:31:22,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're trying to figure I mean, that's that's what's

559
00:31:22,839 --> 00:31:26,160
so crazy. It's like now they're also talking about, you know,

560
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,599
the dark matter and the universe, what fills the universe.

561
00:31:29,599 --> 00:31:31,759
It's like dark matter? What is dark matter? They don't know,

562
00:31:31,799 --> 00:31:33,000
but it's all theory.

563
00:31:33,599 --> 00:31:36,839
Speaker 1: Right exactly. It's it's but they're always trying to figure

564
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,839
things out here and there. You know, we're trying to

565
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,000
move forward. Now back to the world of spirit. Sir,

566
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,559
can you tell me the difference between spirit guides and angels,

567
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,240
because I mean I've understood you know, I haven't spoken

568
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,680
about angels on the show very much because angels have

569
00:31:54,799 --> 00:31:59,440
a connotation of religious connotation to it. Spirit guides not

570
00:31:59,519 --> 00:32:02,279
so much. I'm not sure, you know, you can call

571
00:32:02,319 --> 00:32:04,720
it a million different things. What are the differences between

572
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:05,039
the two?

573
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: Sure, the spirit guides are guides that have evolved so

574
00:32:11,079 --> 00:32:16,160
far that they no longer need to reincarnate. They're so

575
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:21,599
highly evolved that now they are seeking to help others

576
00:32:22,359 --> 00:32:25,160
still in the physical and they literally have to go

577
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,559
through intense training in order to be a guide.

578
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: Uh.

579
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: And you've got just within the guides, you've got multiple

580
00:32:33,319 --> 00:32:36,359
levels of guides themselves. You know, each each guide is

581
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,160
more advanced than the other, and it's just a state

582
00:32:40,359 --> 00:32:44,200
of evolution. Uh, you know, I remember, we're we're in

583
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:49,680
transuence and uh, somebody somehow got in contact with their

584
00:32:50,279 --> 00:32:55,599
their own guide, and the guides started saying, don't think

585
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,440
of us as anybody special. What is farther along the

586
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,240
path that's like? And I heard that and I was like, oh,

587
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,319
that makes a lot of sense. Okay, I get it.

588
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: So these are these like ascended masters, not.

589
00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 2: So much ascended masters. Those are much hot. Those are

590
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,279
perhaps the peak, if you will, Those are even higher.

591
00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:17,880
But spirit guys are with us all of our lives. Uh.

592
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,839
And you know when I say lives, I mean as in,

593
00:33:21,119 --> 00:33:25,160
you know, multiple lives we live. Our main guide is

594
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,400
typically the one that is going to be with us

595
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,119
for most of our incarnated lives. We'll have a band

596
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,759
of uh inner guides, around seven guides or so, and

597
00:33:35,799 --> 00:33:38,720
then we'll have anywhere from seven to ten that we'll

598
00:33:38,759 --> 00:33:42,880
have another outer band that's probably another you know, ten

599
00:33:43,079 --> 00:33:45,839
iss and then we'll have beyond that a whole series

600
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,160
of subcontractor guides that we can write.

601
00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: I love that subcontractor guides. Are there good benefits of

602
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:55,680
the spirit world?

603
00:33:56,519 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 2: I don't know. You gotta sign up with the union.

604
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that. I'm assuming there's not many unions up

605
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:03,599
there other.

606
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:10,119
Speaker 2: Than the only one, right, But the subtract or subcontractor

607
00:34:10,119 --> 00:34:12,880
guides are the ones that you can call on for

608
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,719
specific things. You know, these might have been guides who

609
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,320
might have been experts in their specialty whatever they're you know,

610
00:34:19,519 --> 00:34:22,360
maybe under the earth they are a specialist in real estate.

611
00:34:23,079 --> 00:34:25,320
Maybe you're trying to figure out something in real estate.

612
00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:28,360
You've got a real estate guide, and you call upon them.

613
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,800
They'll be in your life till that thing, whatever it

614
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,280
is you're looking for, it's fixed, and then they go away.

615
00:34:33,599 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: But do how do they help the situation if they're

616
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,920
not if they're not you, if they can't have a

617
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,199
direct conversation with them.

618
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're What they do is they put things,

619
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:47,000
Like like any guides, what they do is they will

620
00:34:47,039 --> 00:34:49,920
put things on your path. They'll put things in front

621
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,679
of you so that you'll be aware, you'll see them,

622
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,719
or you'll start to in your mind become aware of

623
00:34:57,079 --> 00:34:58,400
certain ideas that.

624
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,079
Speaker 1: Push you to our book, push it to a choruse

625
00:35:01,119 --> 00:35:04,360
push it to something else that gives you the idea that, oh,

626
00:35:04,519 --> 00:35:07,159
maybe I should pick up a Tony Robbins book and like, oh,

627
00:35:07,159 --> 00:35:09,440
that Tony Robbins book is exactly what I needed at

628
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,719
this moment in my life, because this is where I'm going.

629
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,639
But they're the ones that throw the idea into your head.

630
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,159
Because I still remember there was one time when I

631
00:35:18,199 --> 00:35:21,679
started my whole journey in podcasting. It's over seven years ago,

632
00:35:22,159 --> 00:35:24,719
almost eight years ago, but I launched seven years ago.

633
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,599
And the thing that got me started was this book

634
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,079
that was sitting in my Amazon list, and all of

635
00:35:32,119 --> 00:35:34,639
a sudden, I was just like really just trying to

636
00:35:34,679 --> 00:35:37,280
figure something out. I'm like, I'm in a really dark

637
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,159
place in my life. You know. We had a business

638
00:35:40,199 --> 00:35:43,599
that wasn't doing great and I was lost, and I

639
00:35:43,639 --> 00:35:45,960
was like, I need to find something. And all of

640
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,239
a sudden, someone something came into my mind to say,

641
00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:51,440
check a look at Amazon. And I looked at Amazon

642
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,480
and first thing that pops up is The four Hour

643
00:35:54,559 --> 00:35:58,199
work Week by Tim Ferris. Oh yeah right, and that book.

644
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,280
I was like, you know what, I'm going to let

645
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,760
me just read that. And that was the book that

646
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,239
started all the education about online businesses, how to build this,

647
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,920
and it's brought me to where I am today. But

648
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,559
it was all started with that book that launched me

649
00:36:12,679 --> 00:36:15,079
into the direction that I am. The course of my

650
00:36:15,159 --> 00:36:16,320
life really.

651
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,079
Speaker 2: Right right, and you know that'll that'll happen. I mean,

652
00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:21,719
for me, the same kind of thing happened was that

653
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,039
before I even had my awakening, probably a good twenty

654
00:36:25,559 --> 00:36:30,400
ish years ago, I for some reason I had this

655
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:38,280
voracious appetite for reading books on metaphysics, spirit mediums. I

656
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,679
didn't know why. I was just fascinated by it. But

657
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,719
here I am still mister materialist going on. I don't

658
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:44,920
believe in any of this stuff, but I was still

659
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,519
fascinated by it. So spirit was It was kind of like,

660
00:36:47,559 --> 00:36:50,360
you know, well, hands on Grudtel, right, They're dropping breadcrumbs

661
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,119
of book titles in front of me. And it just

662
00:36:53,199 --> 00:36:57,360
kept on, you know, getting more and more severe until

663
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:02,599
I'm on my bus writing to work and day and

664
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,079
I just happened to look out, you know, I'm on

665
00:37:05,159 --> 00:37:09,960
the the buses on four five, We're coming around the

666
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,079
curve and has happened to glance out, and staring me

667
00:37:14,159 --> 00:37:18,960
in the face was this gigantic go board that said,

668
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:24,119
uh lights, what was it? Lights between us? You know,

669
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:29,280
Signed for the Modern World. It was this most amazing book.

670
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:30,679
I was like, oh, I got to get that book.

671
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,400
And yeah, I didn't have any I didn't have very

672
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,760
good memory, but I knew how exactly what I was

673
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,840
going to do that night when I got home.

674
00:37:38,679 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: That's that's amazing. Now, Okay, so do we understand what

675
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,760
sparait guys are? So what are angels? Then?

676
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:51,079
Speaker 2: Angels? From my best understanding of what angels are is

677
00:37:51,559 --> 00:37:59,360
they are the representation of the divine source energy. And

678
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,239
I too like to avoid using the word like God

679
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,719
or anything, because it does have the connotation of religious aspects,

680
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,920
and you know that turns some people off. So I

681
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,960
always refer to it as source because that's like the

682
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,519
Big Bang. We're all kind of from source, right, And

683
00:38:16,559 --> 00:38:19,840
so from what I understand, it's basically, angels are the

684
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:25,039
representation of source energy, and it's you know, they're similar

685
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:31,559
in concept to spirit guys, except they're so evolved. These

686
00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:36,440
are being sort of never incarnated. Spirit GUIDs always have

687
00:38:36,599 --> 00:38:39,920
incarnated because they have to know what it's like to

688
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,800
live on this human planet, this material planet, and go

689
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:47,000
through the pains of humanity. I mean, we're with you know,

690
00:38:47,079 --> 00:38:53,039
the pains humanity in all like seihood. This sucks, it hurts.

691
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: Right right, and yeah, completely completely understandable. Now do our

692
00:38:58,639 --> 00:39:02,559
our relatives with us are with us? Like, so you know,

693
00:39:02,639 --> 00:39:06,400
our grandparents hanging out, our aunts and uncles are maybe

694
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,320
some dear friends, people we had deep connections with. Once

695
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,480
they pass, are they there helping us? Are they there

696
00:39:12,519 --> 00:39:15,280
just watching what's going on.

697
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, our departed family and loved ones and spirit do

698
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,079
try to help us. Uh, they're not, you know, our guides.

699
00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:28,199
A lot of people confuse, you know, our family with

700
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,760
the spirit guides. They're typically not the same because they're

701
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,679
not as evolved, they haven't been trained, they have been

702
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,360
they're not that far along the path.

703
00:39:40,039 --> 00:39:42,559
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor

704
00:39:46,159 --> 00:39:47,440
and now back to the show.

705
00:39:51,159 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 2: But what our family is, they are helpers. They are

706
00:39:56,119 --> 00:39:59,320
there for us. They are trying to help us as

707
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:04,199
time progresses. So you'll always feel you know their love,

708
00:40:04,199 --> 00:40:05,880
and you'll sometimes you know, you might be in a

709
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,559
reading and you know the oldest come through something. They're

710
00:40:09,599 --> 00:40:11,880
not always going to be there and not always going

711
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,559
to come through. But uh, it's sort of a question

712
00:40:14,639 --> 00:40:17,960
of what's the greatest need, what's the highest need? Because

713
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:22,079
spirit always meets the highest need, not necessarily the once.

714
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,920
So what I always say, it's very much like the

715
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,079
rolling Stones. Can't always get what you want, but you

716
00:40:27,159 --> 00:40:28,079
get what you need.

717
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly now What is intuition is that spirit guides

718
00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:42,119
or the universal you know or source trying to guide

719
00:40:42,159 --> 00:40:42,920
you through the path.

720
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,639
Speaker 2: Intuition is again, uh, it's one of your clayers, it's

721
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,000
your it's your gut inscts, your clear sentience, you're you're, you're,

722
00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:58,119
you're feeling it. So when you're in contact with either uh,

723
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,719
spirit or your guys, you're gonna feel in your gut

724
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:06,320
because it's that gut instinct, it's your intuition. As you

725
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:10,480
connect with spirit, you've got to basically be listening to

726
00:41:10,519 --> 00:41:15,119
it because you'll you'll you'll have like a either a

727
00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:17,360
feeling that that you ought to be doing something, or

728
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,760
like a little tiny word comes into your mind or something,

729
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:28,239
and it's so subtle that it's difficult to even hear

730
00:41:28,559 --> 00:41:32,119
because your mind's chattering away. If you just allow the

731
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:36,679
thought to stay there and quiet that monkey mind, you're

732
00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:39,880
everyone's got this monkey mind. Everyone's just like chatting away,

733
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,559
like you know, bouncing off the walls. But if we

734
00:41:42,639 --> 00:41:47,039
allow that uh, you know, clear sentience to open up

735
00:41:47,039 --> 00:41:51,079
and just listen to what spirits trying to tell us,

736
00:41:51,199 --> 00:41:54,360
we'll hear it. Then the key is we've got to

737
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,280
act on it because how many times to like you

738
00:41:58,639 --> 00:42:03,639
walked outside and said, hm, I feel like I ought

739
00:42:03,639 --> 00:42:07,639
to bring my umbrella. Yeah, forget it, you come back,

740
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,159
you're soaking wet. That's an example like that.

741
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 1: So we've been talking about spirits and spirit guides and

742
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:22,159
so on. What is the spirit realm like from your experience?

743
00:42:23,599 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 2: What's really interesting is that the spirit always tries to

744
00:42:27,599 --> 00:42:33,360
show themselves where they are now in reading as well,

745
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:38,440
they'll do is they'll paint pictures of what they're like,

746
00:42:39,079 --> 00:42:43,280
where they are, of the scenery where they are, so

747
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,800
they can kind of I don't want to say alleviate,

748
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:51,119
but calm and soothe the sitter's minds. So the sitter goes, okay, yes,

749
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:56,280
my dad or spouse or whatever, they're in a great place,

750
00:42:56,559 --> 00:43:00,119
because the spirit will start showing us examples of where

751
00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:03,320
they are. I can remember one time when when a spirit,

752
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:07,400
I think it was somebody's father was coming through and

753
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:12,679
reading and he started showing himself this beautiful house, this

754
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:18,599
italianate villa, just beautiful on the inside. There's this incredible

755
00:43:18,639 --> 00:43:23,599
porch on the outside with you know the pillars on

756
00:43:23,679 --> 00:43:26,480
the top that are made of stone or something that

757
00:43:26,559 --> 00:43:32,119
were like kind of curling all the way up, and

758
00:43:32,159 --> 00:43:35,679
there's also like these olive trees just in the background.

759
00:43:36,079 --> 00:43:38,000
And then you looked out you saw the beautiful field.

760
00:43:39,199 --> 00:43:42,119
And what was amazing was that everything I was describing

761
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:48,800
was the italianate villa that he had lived in when

762
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,360
he was still alive. So apparently what he's trying to

763
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,840
get across is what he had transitioned to was a

764
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,760
place that was similar to but only more beautiful, because

765
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,519
as described it, that's what the two daughters were saying.

766
00:44:03,519 --> 00:44:06,159
They're saying that sounds very much like villa, except for

767
00:44:06,199 --> 00:44:09,440
the fact that it's got that many more colors. The

768
00:44:11,079 --> 00:44:16,119
spirit world is got unlimited amounts of color. It's so vibrant,

769
00:44:16,159 --> 00:44:21,000
it's so colorful, and it's got and the colors are

770
00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:24,599
representation of the vibration because remember color is nothing but

771
00:44:24,639 --> 00:44:28,400
a vibration, and likewise, the colors are giving off sound

772
00:44:28,679 --> 00:44:33,480
music because again the everything is a vibration. So we're

773
00:44:33,559 --> 00:44:38,400
just dealing with vibrations to both colors and sounds, and

774
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:43,480
it's very peaceful. You've got seven different planes where as

775
00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:48,320
each person is evolving over time, they're moving up to

776
00:44:48,559 --> 00:44:53,599
a more rarefied, if you will, existence and more evolved.

777
00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:58,079
These existence takes time, but as you allow yourself to learn,

778
00:44:58,079 --> 00:45:00,559
if you allow yourself to grow, you move up and

779
00:45:00,599 --> 00:45:03,559
you're kind of moving along your spiritual path in the

780
00:45:03,559 --> 00:45:04,239
spiritual world.

781
00:45:05,199 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: Do you do you fear death anymore?

782
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 2: No? Sometimes these days, sometimes I welcome it.

783
00:45:16,679 --> 00:45:19,039
Speaker 1: With the way the way the world's going exactly.

784
00:45:19,079 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I want to check you out.

785
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,039
Speaker 1: I mean, then when I can get off this train, man,

786
00:45:24,079 --> 00:45:28,280
I want to I want to head out exactly. But before,

787
00:45:28,519 --> 00:45:32,559
before the awakening, you had the same fear of death

788
00:45:32,599 --> 00:45:34,000
as many of us too.

789
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I mean I was like, oh God,

790
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:38,599
don't let this happen today, you know.

791
00:45:38,679 --> 00:45:41,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was like, because everybody wants to go

792
00:45:41,559 --> 00:45:42,599
to heaven, but just not now.

793
00:45:43,119 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And you know, we're never really quite sure

794
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,119
what's on the other side. We're like, what, you know,

795
00:45:48,119 --> 00:45:49,039
where am I going to land?

796
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: Oh?

797
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,119
Speaker 2: God, I hope I'm going to land in the right place, right.

798
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,119
Speaker 1: But I guess after you've been obviously your experience and everything,

799
00:45:55,119 --> 00:45:58,440
you're like, Okay, so you're here to go through your

800
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,320
through your mission and help as many people as you

801
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,199
can and evolve your own your own soul.

802
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 2: And yes, is exactly.

803
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: This is probably not the first life you've done this.

804
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 2: People have said that. Actually, so my mentors who have

805
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:17,199
done spiritual assessments on me have actually said that that

806
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:25,599
it's every lifetime it's gotten progressively greater or stronger, stronger. Yeah,

807
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,280
because it's like, apparently in one of my lifetimes recently,

808
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:35,280
I was like a monk, very focused on spirituality, which

809
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:39,599
I thought monks were more religious, but apparently this one

810
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:45,559
was very spiritual. And there's another one there was very

811
00:46:45,639 --> 00:46:50,039
much like a teacher, a spiritual teacher. And I know

812
00:46:50,159 --> 00:46:55,119
one of my guides is a rather profound spiritual teacher,

813
00:46:57,079 --> 00:46:59,760
and one of my guides is a Native American healer.

814
00:47:01,559 --> 00:47:03,239
So it's very interesting that they would start to come

815
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,920
through this way. Apparently I've had some kind of relation there.

816
00:47:07,079 --> 00:47:10,159
Speaker 1: But the spirit guys are are beings that won't reincarnate.

817
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,480
They have now they're they're done, they're done with they're

818
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,360
done with this level of the game. They're on another

819
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,239
level of the game. They're the next.

820
00:47:18,159 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 2: Together, all all all together.

821
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're not coming back.

822
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,559
Speaker 2: No, No, they've done their they've done their soul duty.

823
00:47:27,199 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 1: Literally, Now you were mentioning the monkey mind? Is Is

824
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,800
there a way or any advice you can give us

825
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,760
to be able to quiet our minds to a place

826
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:43,920
where we can listen and hear these these either messages

827
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:49,320
or at least feel the the guidance that comes through this,

828
00:47:49,519 --> 00:47:51,400
the things that we all kind of understand with the

829
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,199
intuition and the gut instinct. And you're like, I don't

830
00:47:54,199 --> 00:47:56,519
go into that business deal because you feel like this

831
00:47:56,599 --> 00:47:58,440
is not a good deal. You can't trust that person,

832
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,800
that kind of stuff. But a lot of times we

833
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,039
ignore because of the monkey brain. What can we do

834
00:48:03,599 --> 00:48:06,920
to quiet down? I meditate. I'm a heavy meditator and

835
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,679
that's really helped ground me and open me up to

836
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,679
a lot of things. What do you what's your advice?

837
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, meditations perhaps the first and foremost thing that

838
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,280
anybody and everybody should be doing if they want to

839
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,400
a calm the selp was down. But also be begin

840
00:48:23,519 --> 00:48:27,079
to receive and or connect with spirit, because you can't

841
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,920
really hear or understand what's going on if your mind is,

842
00:48:31,119 --> 00:48:33,880
you know, going twenty miles a minute, I mean twenty

843
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,760
miles a second. It's just like it's just going way

844
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:40,639
too fast. So meditation is critical. Find a guided meditation

845
00:48:42,039 --> 00:48:45,360
that really resonates with you, and you've got to meditate

846
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,440
every day. It's it's less the duration as much as

847
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:53,360
the consistency. So if you can meditate ten maybe fifteen

848
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,239
minutes a day every day, then all of a sudden

849
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:01,679
you'll find yourself. After maybe six months, you'll really start

850
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,519
to see yourself beginning to shift, beginning to open up,

851
00:49:05,559 --> 00:49:08,760
being able to realize more that's around you. And so

852
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,880
the meditation is absolutely critical.

853
00:49:11,639 --> 00:49:14,159
Speaker 1: This is really interesting. Even a few times as we've

854
00:49:14,199 --> 00:49:20,159
been talking today, time seems to be a prerequisite for spirit,

855
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:25,400
meaning that anything that really is valued or is valuable

856
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:30,679
in our evolution takes time, takes not months. You just

857
00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:33,519
said nine months later, you know, you'll start to feel

858
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,840
like that's a substantial amount of time for someone to

859
00:49:36,159 --> 00:49:40,079
do something just without any results. Whereas in spirit we

860
00:49:41,079 --> 00:49:43,719
so many times people especially in the West, I want,

861
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,719
I want, can I get enlightened tomorrow? How can I hack?

862
00:49:47,039 --> 00:49:49,239
How can I bio hack enlightenment?

863
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 2: Like you know a life hack plase a life hack

864
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:52,800
or or.

865
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 1: A soul hack for enlightenment. Uh a trademarks uh no,

866
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,679
But like from your experience, you know, going through all

867
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,880
of this. You don't talk about spirit and evolution of

868
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,440
your soul or of your spirit even in a lifetime.

869
00:50:11,599 --> 00:50:16,360
You talk about it in years, in decades before substantial

870
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,840
things start to open up and start to happen. And

871
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,480
you know, when you meditate, like I've been meditating six years.

872
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,800
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor

873
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:33,440
and now back to the show. It took me a

874
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,880
long time, took me prior year before it started to

875
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:40,400
get real, real benefit from it. And then now it's

876
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,559
it's kind of a snowball. Like now it's it grows

877
00:50:43,559 --> 00:50:45,199
and it's you know, I could tap into it really

878
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,679
easily and things like that. But it's like any any

879
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,519
major skill that you need to do, it takes time.

880
00:50:50,559 --> 00:50:54,079
But with spirit, I've noticed even in the spiritual text,

881
00:50:54,079 --> 00:50:57,320
it's just like, yeah, that's not this decade, next decade.

882
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:05,239
You're just like, yeah, my god, so what's your what's

883
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:06,039
your feeling on that?

884
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:10,039
Speaker 2: Well, it's it's definitely true that we have to learn

885
00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:11,920
how to be patient, we have to learn how to

886
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:19,119
be allow ourselves to evolve in our time because our

887
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,800
time and spirits time are two very different things. Because,

888
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,280
as you probably know, spirit doesn't have any time. The

889
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,760
reason they don't have any time is because they're not physical,

890
00:51:28,039 --> 00:51:33,239
and time is a function of distance they are. Therefore,

891
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:33,880
it's man made.

892
00:51:35,199 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: So without there's time is based about our rotation around

893
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,760
the Sun. If we were in Jupiter, our time would

894
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,760
be different. If we were in a different galaxy, our

895
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,400
quote unquote time would be different. So time is a

896
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,679
construct that we've created to just kind of move things

897
00:51:50,679 --> 00:51:54,039
along for ourselves. But it doesn't really exist. I mean,

898
00:51:54,079 --> 00:51:56,360
if you just scientifically, it doesn't really exist.

899
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 2: No, no, not at all. And that's the thing. We

900
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,599
feel it exists because we've grown up that way. We've

901
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,719
you know, we we we deal with the Sun and

902
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,639
it's always going around for that with the twenty three

903
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,760
and fifty twenty three hours of fifty four minutes or

904
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:16,119
something like that, and you know where we're working with that.

905
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,719
Yet the point is that's a physical construct. Spirit's not physical.

906
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,519
Therefore there is no construct related at the time to them.

907
00:52:24,559 --> 00:52:28,599
It's they measure things based on milestones, you know, what

908
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:33,320
has happened to them. So that's really like mile markers.

909
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: Right exactly exactly. So so many of us come down

910
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,159
here looking, uh, looking for a mission, looking for a

911
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,039
purpose in life, and so many of us are caught

912
00:52:44,119 --> 00:52:46,880
up in you know, going being in the stock market

913
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:48,079
and like, who wants.

914
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:48,199
Speaker 2: To do that?

915
00:52:48,639 --> 00:52:52,639
Speaker 1: So like working in the stock market for two decades,

916
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,760
obviously you were off your path. This wasn't your true path,

917
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,360
but something pulled you back in. What is there any

918
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,360
advice you can give us that we can kind of

919
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,320
find our meaning, our purpose, our mission in this life.

920
00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:10,360
What we're here to learn a little bit quicker, or

921
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,840
just something to help us guide us because so many

922
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:13,599
of us are lost.

923
00:53:14,079 --> 00:53:16,039
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, And that's kind of the biggest thing that

924
00:53:16,039 --> 00:53:17,760
I'm always trying to help you'ple do is to find

925
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,360
out what is their mission. And the thing for me

926
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,519
that I found out is that the way you can

927
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:29,119
really discover or at least unfold what your purpose is

928
00:53:29,119 --> 00:53:31,440
is to find out what gives you the greatest joy.

929
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,519
Because so many people are saying, Okay, well, I got

930
00:53:34,519 --> 00:53:37,000
to support my family, I gotta do this work, I

931
00:53:37,079 --> 00:53:40,239
got to go to Las Vegas and win the lottery

932
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,400
or whatever it is. And the concept is, what is

933
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:47,119
it that gives you the greatest joy? And it's got

934
00:53:47,159 --> 00:53:50,639
to be joy from deep, deep, deep down within most

935
00:53:50,679 --> 00:53:55,079
of the time, you'll find that helping other people in

936
00:53:55,119 --> 00:53:59,400
some fashion will give you the greatest joy. And it's

937
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:04,800
not something where you're getting recognized for it specifically, but

938
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,519
the fact that you're actually helping another human being just

939
00:54:08,519 --> 00:54:12,119
just typically makes you feel that much better. I mean,

940
00:54:12,199 --> 00:54:15,480
imagine the last time you were, you know, helping somebody out.

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Maybe you held the door for a senior citizen, or

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you got somebody's paper, or you smile to somebody who

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didn't look so happy, and all of a sudden they

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were tired on your smile. You made their day. I mean,

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these little things. It doesn't have to be like this

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monstrous type you know action. It can even be the

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little thing. So if you're starting to do that on

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a regular basis, and then you start to kind of

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increase it, like maybe you're working at a home shelter,

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maybe you're working at a soup kitchen, maybe you're you know,

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anonymously donating whatever some percentage of your you know, wealth,

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it's like, what can you do to help other people?

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And that's and that's ultimately what's going to help you

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find it, because it's it's your inner joy, and that's

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really our mission is joy or that's why we came

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Dad here is who have joy but also undergo the

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tough lessons of the Earth School.

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Speaker 1: Of the Earth School, no question about it. Now speaking

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of the Earth School, the Earth is having a little

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bit of a problem right now. There's a lot of

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stuff going on between pandemics and economies and politics and

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you know, different kinds of you know, war and aggression

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that's going on around the world. There seems to be

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a shift going on. There seems to be something happen.

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There seems to be something in the air, if you will,

966
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that's just not COVID. Something else seems to be in

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the air. There seems to be a shift going on.

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I'd love to hear your point of view of what

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is going on. What have you heard from spirit and

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source about why we're going through this and where we're

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heading for this, because I don't think we're not at

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the bottom yet. I think we still got we got

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a little bit of go before we hit the bottom.

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But what's your what's your feeling?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a great question because I was in a

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transcircle to somebody and he was connecting with his guide

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and what came out was this beautiful commentary about everything

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that was happening, and it basically said in some that

979
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the reason mankind is going through all this is to

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help us to work together, to help us to try

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to no longer be separate, but to come together as one,

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to try to love one another again, work with one

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another again, and try to bring back peace and harmony

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to the world, and kept saying, you know, we will

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not give you more than you can handle, but this

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is one way we know that you will be forced

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to come together in a unity to fix all the

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problems that you were experiencing.

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Speaker 1: So it seems that that's what's happening, because I mean,

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you know, when the pandemic hit, it was hit, it

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effected the entire planet at the same time. Its just

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something I've never seen before. Now, I've never even heard

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of something completely affecting the entire world at the at

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the exact same moment. And we're all there was a

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couple of months in the pandemic that we all were

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at home. The entire world was at home, not moving. Boats,

997
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weren't shipping, the flights weren't going anywhere like it was.

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It was done, and you're just like this seems insane.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: It seems insane. There's a lot of there's a lot

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of talk about connecting to our higher selves. What does

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that mean to you as far as the higher self

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meaning the is that meaning our source our soul is

1004
00:57:59,639 --> 00:58:02,119
when you're connecting to higher self? And if that's the case,

1005
00:58:02,159 --> 00:58:06,960
how do you have a closer connection to your soul?

1006
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What really matters and not this meat suit that we

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walk around in?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, exactly. Well, I mean, if you think about it,

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the soul actually has kind of almost two parts. There's

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the inner soul that is basically the vehicle to our spirit,

1011
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:28,599
and there's the higher soul, the higher self, that is

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remaining in the spirit world, so that when we transition back,

1013
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we ultimately are reconnecting with our higher self or higher

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soul that remains there, and we actually are able to

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sometimes if we connect with it here from the physical,

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we're actually able to get a different perspective. You may

1017
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sometimes some think at this bizarre feeling or bizarre view

1018
00:58:56,079 --> 00:58:59,360
and different from a totally different perspective. You're like, WHOA,

1019
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,960
what did I just get that idea? And it's you know,

1020
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it's your idea, but it's something where all of a sudden,

1021
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the view and the perspective of the view has completely shifted.

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You're now looking down at yourself, and your awareness is

1023
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from a different plane altogether, as opposed to you know,

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I'm just here on this level and that's all I know,

1025
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that's all I see. So it's a very different perspective.

1026
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I guess you'd put it now.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about your book, The Spirit

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Beside Us? How did this come to be? And you know,

1029
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was this kind of like a channeled book or does

1030
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:43,119
it come through you? How did that? How did that hole?

1031
00:59:44,039 --> 00:59:47,400
How did it come to be? We'll be right back

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after a word from our sponsor, and now back to

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the show.

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Speaker 2: It's funny you mentioned that because it really went from

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blank page to published in about three or four months.

1036
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Speaker 1: That's insane.

1037
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was insane, totally. It it started out, is

1038
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it sort of like you know, do you I'd like

1039
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:10,800
to get my thoughts down on paper. I'd like to

1040
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,559
get you know, the world to know what's going on.

1041
01:00:14,039 --> 01:00:18,079
And then it just started flowing, like you know, the

1042
01:00:18,199 --> 01:00:24,000
damn it burst open and I just went wild working

1043
01:00:24,039 --> 01:00:28,239
at it. And I remember showing my manuscript to some

1044
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,880
of my mentors and they kind of looked at me

1045
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,400
and they said, you do realize it about half of

1046
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,519
that book so automatically written. And I'm like, oh, that

1047
01:00:36,559 --> 01:00:38,360
explains why it was so fast.

1048
01:00:40,679 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: It's just coming through you with your your as they say,

1049
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,840
a spiritual stink on it. But it was coming through

1050
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,119
you as a conto it.

1051
01:00:48,639 --> 01:00:51,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I mean they were moving my fingers faster

1052
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:52,880
and I knew what was going on. And the next

1053
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,559
thing I know, it's just, you know, plug and play.

1054
01:00:55,599 --> 01:00:58,719
I'm like, all right, letter, it's done.

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Speaker 1: It's done. To get out there. I'm going to ask

1056
01:01:01,039 --> 01:01:02,840
you a couple of questions that I ask all my guests.

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What is your mission in this life?

1058
01:01:06,519 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 2: My mission in this life is to raise a spiritual healing,

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01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:16,320
the spiritual awareness of consciousness and of humanity. Is to

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01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:20,400
really let the world know that we are not just

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01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:24,159
this one life. Let the world know that the spirit

1062
01:01:24,199 --> 01:01:28,320
lives on and that it's pure love and that it's

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01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,199
nothing to be frightened of, not like a Hollywood ghost story,

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01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,599
because that's what comes through, is pure love and healing.

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01:01:35,199 --> 01:01:39,320
And if people know that their loved ones live on

1066
01:01:40,199 --> 01:01:43,519
in a higher state, and they know that they're bringing

1067
01:01:43,599 --> 01:01:49,480
through transformative love and healing. Then your reality completely changes.

1068
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:53,880
It's very much like Plato's allegory of the cave where

1069
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:58,400
he had, you know, the three prisoners, you know, chained

1070
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:01,480
to the wall. They didn't know anything about, you know,

1071
01:02:01,639 --> 01:02:03,320
what was on the outside of the cave because they

1072
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:07,079
never left the cave. One prisoner breaks free, sees the

1073
01:02:07,119 --> 01:02:11,960
real world, sees people, trees, animals, sunshine, vegetation, absolutely surprise

1074
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:13,920
of the beautiful world. Goes running back, tell us his

1075
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,400
co prisoners, Hey, you'll never believe what I saw out there,

1076
01:02:17,639 --> 01:02:22,159
and not even believing because beyond their understanding, they have

1077
01:02:22,199 --> 01:02:24,719
no way of knowing right exactly.

1078
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Speaker 1: It's very similar to if we would have been telling

1079
01:02:27,079 --> 01:02:29,599
people one hundred years ago about an iPhone, they'd be like,

1080
01:02:30,159 --> 01:02:32,079
what's a phone?

1081
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:34,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.

1082
01:02:35,239 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: So. And what is the ultimate purpose of life?

1083
01:02:39,719 --> 01:02:43,559
Speaker 2: The ultimate purpose of life on earth is to learn

1084
01:02:43,599 --> 01:02:47,719
all the lessons that our spirit comes down to learn.

1085
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,800
It's a tough life, but otherwise if we didn't experience

1086
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:55,719
these lessons, then we wouldn't learn them. It's very much

1087
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:59,400
like the five year old who you can tell ten times,

1088
01:02:59,559 --> 01:03:03,400
don't that hot stove or else you burn yourself? Does

1089
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,599
it five years old. Ever listen, No, but one day he,

1090
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,559
you know, touches that hot stove and ah, he will

1091
01:03:09,599 --> 01:03:13,000
never touch that hot stove again because he experienced pain.

1092
01:03:13,519 --> 01:03:16,840
It's like us. We have to experience these frustrations, the

1093
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:20,840
pains of life to learn the lessons. That's why so

1094
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,199
many times life seems so painful.

1095
01:03:24,519 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 1: And where can people find out more about you? Pick

1096
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:28,920
up your book and find out all the services and

1097
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:29,559
things that you do.

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01:03:30,199 --> 01:03:34,599
Speaker 2: Sure, well, you can look at my website which is

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01:03:34,719 --> 01:03:39,199
www dot montclairmedium dot com. You can find a book

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01:03:39,239 --> 01:03:46,119
on Amazon. Just look at Spirits beside Us. And you

1101
01:03:46,119 --> 01:03:49,800
know that's really If you go to those two primary portals,

1102
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,679
those are really everything else. Will you know you'll see

1103
01:03:52,719 --> 01:03:58,280
exactly the same information both on Facebook, on Twitter and Instagram.

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It's to all Montclair Medium.

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Speaker 1: Chris Man. It has been a pleasure talking to you,

1106
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,360
my friend. Thank you so much for sharing your journey

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01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,519
with us and answering some some spiritual questions. I know

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a lot of our listeners have, and I appreciate all

1109
01:04:10,119 --> 01:04:11,760
the hard work that you've been doing over the course

1110
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:13,920
of your your life so far and trying to help

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01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,079
as many people as you can. So I appreciate you,

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01:04:16,079 --> 01:04:16,960
my friend. Thank you again.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much, Alex, great being here.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today.

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