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Speaker 1: So there's Lord who's she's been around for a while.

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I think, right, yes, she's got a new CD. And

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this is from the Verge dot com. So you know,

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sometimes when releasing physical media, people like to come up

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with cool gimmicks, you know, like back in the days

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of when vinyl was was well. Of course, vinyl has

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had such a resurgence over the past decade, but you know,

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sometimes with Vinyl people tried to do cool stuff, release

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limited edition vinyl. I remember I still recall when Dan

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of Dan Randall and the Randlettes some people will know,

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when he showed me he had bought the the Kiss

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single for Unholy that came out in ninety two, and

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it was they put it out on limited edition white vinyl.

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It was so cool.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, My favorite was a Stix album that I think

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it was Paradise Theater that actually had the theater in

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the album like the visual. Yeah, you had to hold

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the album a certain way to see the Yeah, to

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see it.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean I always love stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, pick picture discs they call them, yeah, and those

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are cool. And you know, some artists have tried to

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do things unique and innovative with CDs, as well not

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just vinyl. And Lord's new CD is transparent. You can

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see through it. And if you don't know what I'm

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talking about, you know, you can always go go find

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a picture of it online. It's interesting. It's it's completely clear.

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You can see right through it, right through it. What

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a cool idea, right, yeah? Actually, well there's only one problem,

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and this is from the Verge dot com. Lord's new

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CD is so transparent that stereos can't even read it.

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Speaker 3: Oh god, that's so terrible.

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Speaker 1: And there's only one version and it doesn't work on

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most players. So this is from the Verge. It says

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Lord fans are clearly struggling to play the CD version

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of her new album, consumers who purchase the special edition

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of Virgin released on a transparent plastic disc, or reporting

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on Reddit and TikTok that many CD players car serios

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and other sound systems they've tried to play it on

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are unable to play it. The transparent CD, promoted it

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as being fully recyclable, is currently sold out on Lord's

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web store and was the only disc variant available for

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the Virgin album. So, in other words, if you don't

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want the clear CD, if you want something you can

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actually play. You can't even get it. Nope, So that

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may have come as a that may have been a

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welcome compromise for fans, given the singer opted to forego

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a CD release entirely for her twenty twenty one album

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Solar Power over waste and environmental concerns, but little comfort

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to customers who can't purchase alternative options. One Reddit user said, quote,

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very cool looking and I'm not going to return it,

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but doesn't work in three of my top players, PC

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was able to rip. The files are not great. There's

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distortion and clipping. User unquote. User reports indicate that older

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hardware is less likely to work with the CDD than

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devices with newer sensors, So you know, we should just

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stress that so people know. It's not that it doesn't

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play at all. You just have to have a new,

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a very new CD player apparently that is able to

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actually read the data on it. Because as one person

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pointed out, and this isn't from the article I saw

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this on uh, I saw this on another post. Somebody said, Hey,

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you know it's completely clearer. There's no silver coding, but

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isn't the silver where the data is stored.

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Speaker 3: God, that's true.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's true. So apparently it's so so if

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you have a newer CD player you can play it,

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but older ones car serios won't play it. Uh, it's

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it's you're just sol it says here. One talk user

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demonstrated that her car CD player was an unable to

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recognize the disc and said that forcing the CD inside

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resulted in automatic ejection, mirroring similar reports made in Reddit comments.

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Uh this redditor said, quote, whoever decided to design this

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as an idiot? Cars can't read the CD. Walkman's can't

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read the CD. You need to create CDs that are

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fit for purpose of for the medium in which they

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are played on, which is older technology. Unquote.

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Speaker 3: No, you should update your technology, but that's your it's

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your fault. You didn't update your technology. Right here the

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greatness of the desk.

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Speaker 1: If you're a true Lord fan, you know this reminds

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me of a There's a podcaster who we know who

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always complains about people not listening to his podcast on

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good quality equipment and expects everyone to upgrade their equipment

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when they listened to his amazing must yes yes, how

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he how he knows how people are consuming this content.

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I have no idea.

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Speaker 2: But what I don't get is like, didn't they test

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it out on They must have like only played it

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on the very best.

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Speaker 1: That must that must be what happened.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and nobody bothered to go, hey, let me go

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see if this will work in my car.

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Speaker 1: That that's probably what happened, it says here. Lord has

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yet to address any of the issues raised about the

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transparent Virgin CD. The official came uh. The official cause

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of the playability issues also has not been confirmed. It's

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certainly striking. It's certainly a striking disc. CDs with even

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partially clear designs are uncommon and can be a hit

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with collectors, but the lack of functionality in this example

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has been a bitter experience for some Lord fans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can imagine, I got a pretty disc, I

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can't play it.

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Speaker 1: One TikTok user said, quote, seems like they didn't account

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for this pretty disappointing. I know it was for an aesthetic,

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but at least press it on normal CD unquote. Yeah,

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that's the other weird thing. It's like, why wouldn't you

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also put out well a non clear.

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Speaker 3: Edition because they thought that it was going to play

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and everything.

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Speaker 1: Well, I also wonder if they thought that people might

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this is Wow. There's a picture here in this article

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two of the disc of someone holding up the disc

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and yeah, it's very clear. Yeah, I'd be pretty skeptical.

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Like if someone handed that to me and said, here,

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play this, I'd be like, uh, what is this? Is

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this actually a CD? What are you giving me here? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: It looks kind of it doesn't You're right, it doesn't

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look like any disc that you've seen before. Yeah, but

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it's cute and it's quirky, and if it had played

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on everything, it would have been great. And that's probably

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why they didn't print regular ones. But then maybe they

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should go back and do that now and like offer people,

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you know, hey, you bought this disc, it's great, but

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here's one you can actually listen to, right, Like that

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would be great to do for Yeah, that would make

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it better. Yeah, But to spend the money to buy

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the thing and you can't play the music, that's It's

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not just about aesthetics.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you want to hear what's on it.

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Speaker 1: Unless they also made the calculation, it's possible that someone

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made the calculation that people weren't going to buy this

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discs to play it, But people are going to buy

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this disc just to have it.

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Speaker 3: I think that's silly.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. The only reason I think someone

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might have thought that is because, you know my theory

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about vinyl. I've said it all the time that when

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when artists release new vinyl, you know, because some of

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the guests that we've had on the show, for example,

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they'll they'll do vinyl. And I always say that My

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theory is most people who buy new vinyl don't even

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have a record player. They just buy it because they

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want to have it, Like, they never even necessarily open it.

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They just want to really support that artist, so they'll

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buy it just to you know, maybe put the artwork

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on the wall or something, or just just to have

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it because they want to support that artist, not because

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they actually have a record player that they're going to

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play it on. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I do know what you mean, But I honestly think

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in this instance, it's just not the equivalency.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I'm just I'm just wondering if someone maybe

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had that theory though, Like maybe somebody had a theory

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to my theory about violin they thought it would have

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even if.

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Speaker 3: That was the theory. Why would you print only discs

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that you can't listen to? Yeah, that doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so it's pretty strange, and apparently it's not

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being addressed. I guess it just came out because this

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story just broke a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure that she anticipated that the disc was going to.

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Speaker 2: Work, you know, I highly doubt that it was sold

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to her as Hey, we want to print millions.

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Speaker 3: Of your desk, but we don't want them to be

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able to necessarily play unless you got expensive equipment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, unless you have new equipment. It done work.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, and that done not good. So well,

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hopefully everyone learns something from this.

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Speaker 3: Yes, do not make.

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Speaker 2: It clear unless they find a better material used to

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make them on that can actually be read.

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Speaker 3: They kind of need the silver part.

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Speaker 1: Yeah like that.

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Speaker 3: One person wrote