Speaker 1: So there's Lord who's she's been around for a while.
I think, right, yes, she's got a new CD. And
this is from the Verge dot com. So you know,
sometimes when releasing physical media, people like to come up
with cool gimmicks, you know, like back in the days
of when vinyl was was well. Of course, vinyl has
had such a resurgence over the past decade, but you know,
sometimes with Vinyl people tried to do cool stuff, release
limited edition vinyl. I remember I still recall when Dan
of Dan Randall and the Randlettes some people will know,
when he showed me he had bought the the Kiss
single for Unholy that came out in ninety two, and
it was they put it out on limited edition white vinyl.
It was so cool.
Speaker 2: Anyway, My favorite was a Stix album that I think
it was Paradise Theater that actually had the theater in
the album like the visual. Yeah, you had to hold
the album a certain way to see the Yeah, to
see it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean I always love stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, pick picture discs they call them, yeah, and those
are cool. And you know, some artists have tried to
do things unique and innovative with CDs, as well not
just vinyl. And Lord's new CD is transparent. You can
see through it. And if you don't know what I'm
talking about, you know, you can always go go find
a picture of it online. It's interesting. It's it's completely clear.
You can see right through it, right through it. What
a cool idea, right, yeah? Actually, well there's only one problem,
and this is from the Verge dot com. Lord's new
CD is so transparent that stereos can't even read it.
Speaker 3: Oh god, that's so terrible.
Speaker 1: And there's only one version and it doesn't work on
most players. So this is from the Verge. It says
Lord fans are clearly struggling to play the CD version
of her new album, consumers who purchase the special edition
of Virgin released on a transparent plastic disc, or reporting
on Reddit and TikTok that many CD players car serios
and other sound systems they've tried to play it on
are unable to play it. The transparent CD, promoted it
as being fully recyclable, is currently sold out on Lord's
web store and was the only disc variant available for
the Virgin album. So, in other words, if you don't
want the clear CD, if you want something you can
actually play. You can't even get it. Nope, So that
may have come as a that may have been a
welcome compromise for fans, given the singer opted to forego
a CD release entirely for her twenty twenty one album
Solar Power over waste and environmental concerns, but little comfort
to customers who can't purchase alternative options. One Reddit user said, quote,
very cool looking and I'm not going to return it,
but doesn't work in three of my top players, PC
was able to rip. The files are not great. There's
distortion and clipping. User unquote. User reports indicate that older
hardware is less likely to work with the CDD than
devices with newer sensors, So you know, we should just
stress that so people know. It's not that it doesn't
play at all. You just have to have a new,
a very new CD player apparently that is able to
actually read the data on it. Because as one person
pointed out, and this isn't from the article I saw
this on uh, I saw this on another post. Somebody said, Hey,
you know it's completely clearer. There's no silver coding, but
isn't the silver where the data is stored.
Speaker 3: God, that's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's true. So apparently it's so so if
you have a newer CD player you can play it,
but older ones car serios won't play it. Uh, it's
it's you're just sol it says here. One talk user
demonstrated that her car CD player was an unable to
recognize the disc and said that forcing the CD inside
resulted in automatic ejection, mirroring similar reports made in Reddit comments.
Uh this redditor said, quote, whoever decided to design this
as an idiot? Cars can't read the CD. Walkman's can't
read the CD. You need to create CDs that are
fit for purpose of for the medium in which they
are played on, which is older technology. Unquote.
Speaker 3: No, you should update your technology, but that's your it's
your fault. You didn't update your technology. Right here the
greatness of the desk.
Speaker 1: If you're a true Lord fan, you know this reminds
me of a There's a podcaster who we know who
always complains about people not listening to his podcast on
good quality equipment and expects everyone to upgrade their equipment
when they listened to his amazing must yes yes, how
he how he knows how people are consuming this content.
I have no idea.
Speaker 2: But what I don't get is like, didn't they test
it out on They must have like only played it
on the very best.
Speaker 1: That must that must be what happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and nobody bothered to go, hey, let me go
see if this will work in my car.
Speaker 1: That that's probably what happened, it says here. Lord has
yet to address any of the issues raised about the
transparent Virgin CD. The official came uh. The official cause
of the playability issues also has not been confirmed. It's
certainly striking. It's certainly a striking disc. CDs with even
partially clear designs are uncommon and can be a hit
with collectors, but the lack of functionality in this example
has been a bitter experience for some Lord fans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can imagine, I got a pretty disc, I
can't play it.
Speaker 1: One TikTok user said, quote, seems like they didn't account
for this pretty disappointing. I know it was for an aesthetic,
but at least press it on normal CD unquote. Yeah,
that's the other weird thing. It's like, why wouldn't you
also put out well a non clear.
Speaker 3: Edition because they thought that it was going to play
and everything.
Speaker 1: Well, I also wonder if they thought that people might
this is Wow. There's a picture here in this article
two of the disc of someone holding up the disc
and yeah, it's very clear. Yeah, I'd be pretty skeptical.
Like if someone handed that to me and said, here,
play this, I'd be like, uh, what is this? Is
this actually a CD? What are you giving me here? Yeah?
Speaker 2: It looks kind of it doesn't You're right, it doesn't
look like any disc that you've seen before. Yeah, but
it's cute and it's quirky, and if it had played
on everything, it would have been great. And that's probably
why they didn't print regular ones. But then maybe they
should go back and do that now and like offer people,
you know, hey, you bought this disc, it's great, but
here's one you can actually listen to, right, Like that
would be great to do for Yeah, that would make
it better. Yeah, But to spend the money to buy
the thing and you can't play the music, that's It's
not just about aesthetics.
Speaker 3: I mean, you want to hear what's on it.
Speaker 1: Unless they also made the calculation, it's possible that someone
made the calculation that people weren't going to buy this
discs to play it, But people are going to buy
this disc just to have it.
Speaker 3: I think that's silly.
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. The only reason I think someone
might have thought that is because, you know my theory
about vinyl. I've said it all the time that when
when artists release new vinyl, you know, because some of
the guests that we've had on the show, for example,
they'll they'll do vinyl. And I always say that My
theory is most people who buy new vinyl don't even
have a record player. They just buy it because they
want to have it, Like, they never even necessarily open it.
They just want to really support that artist, so they'll
buy it just to you know, maybe put the artwork
on the wall or something, or just just to have
it because they want to support that artist, not because
they actually have a record player that they're going to
play it on. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I do know what you mean, But I honestly think
in this instance, it's just not the equivalency.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I'm just I'm just wondering if someone maybe
had that theory though, Like maybe somebody had a theory
to my theory about violin they thought it would have
even if.
Speaker 3: That was the theory. Why would you print only discs
that you can't listen to? Yeah, that doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so it's pretty strange, and apparently it's not
being addressed. I guess it just came out because this
story just broke a couple of days ago.
Speaker 3: I'm sure that she anticipated that the disc was going to.
Speaker 2: Work, you know, I highly doubt that it was sold
to her as Hey, we want to print millions.
Speaker 3: Of your desk, but we don't want them to be
able to necessarily play unless you got expensive equipment.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, unless you have new equipment. It done work.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, and that done not good. So well,
hopefully everyone learns something from this.
Speaker 3: Yes, do not make.
Speaker 2: It clear unless they find a better material used to
make them on that can actually be read.
Speaker 3: They kind of need the silver part.
Speaker 1: Yeah like that.
Speaker 3: One person wrote