Speaker 1: Let's do some college football, some pro football now with
Speaker 1: our buddy Max Chadwick from PFF.
Speaker 2: Max. Happy Tuesday, Man, How you doing good?
Speaker 3: How are you guys doing good?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: Appreciate the time.
Speaker 1: Obviously, it was a chaotic weekend here in Salt Lake
Speaker 1: City with the rivalry game as Brigham Young rolled up
Speaker 1: to Salt Lake and went back to Provo with the win.
Speaker 1: So now, simply but BYU's undefeated, their number seven in
Speaker 1: the AP. We'll get to the CFP release tonight. But
Speaker 1: what did you make of a very dramatic night in
Speaker 1: Salt Lake City on Saturday night?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just seems like by us a team of destiny,
Speaker 3: it doesn't it?
Speaker 2: Right now?
Speaker 3: Guys, right over that Oklahoma State game, they had the
Speaker 3: game winning drive and nobody thought they they would win
Speaker 3: that game. Obviously had another game winning drive against Utah
Speaker 3: on that one. You know, every great college football team
Speaker 3: obviously has got to be a good team first and foremost,
Speaker 3: but also you gotta have a little magic as well,
Speaker 3: and I think BYU is starting to capture that magic
Speaker 3: a little bit. And yeah, I think what they've done
Speaker 3: this year is incredible, and I think, you know, seventh
Speaker 3: and eight people is way way too low for what
Speaker 3: they've done this year resume wise, I personally haven't number
Speaker 3: three of my ranking because I think right now, at
Speaker 3: this point of the season, you've got to be ranking
Speaker 3: off of their resume and not in terms of, oh,
Speaker 3: how good you think.
Speaker 2: A team is.
Speaker 1: So that leads me to the CFP release tonight. B
Speaker 1: YU rolled in at nine last week. I viewed that
Speaker 1: as a damning indictment of the Big Twelve Conference as
Speaker 1: a whole. And Max, I don't think they're going to
Speaker 1: be higher than six or seven tonight.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: Where when the release happens tonight, where do you think
Speaker 1: Breaking Me Young ends up?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I'm with you. I think you know, the AP
Speaker 3: is probably you know, going to be around where they
Speaker 3: had it at, you know, which is the seventh overall.
Speaker 3: Like I said, I very much vehemanly disagree with that.
Speaker 3: I mean, just look at what they've done this year.
Speaker 3: Right They beat SMU, who's still fighting for a playoffs
Speaker 3: but right now is one of the top playoff contenders.
Speaker 3: Maybe could even win the ACC this year the way
Speaker 3: is going. They also beat Kansas State, who's still fighting
Speaker 3: for a playoffs pot as well. To be Kansastate by
Speaker 3: twenty nine points. Right, see be two teams that are
Speaker 3: easily top twenty teams in college football are now and
Speaker 3: will be in the top twenty the CFP ranking tonight.
Speaker 3: You look at a resume like Texas, for example, what
Speaker 3: have they done this year? Right? Their best win is
Speaker 3: against Vanderbilt and they beat them by three points. Other
Speaker 3: than that, like they beat a Michigan team's most six
Speaker 3: and six this year, they're they beat an Oklahoma team
Speaker 3: is probably go five and seven this year, Like Texas
Speaker 3: does not have the big wins like BYU does right now.
Speaker 3: And Texas, by the way, has a loss this year
Speaker 3: as well. I think BYU has not had yet. So
Speaker 3: I think BYU at minimum should be number three in
Speaker 3: my opinion, but they're gonna be a lot lower than
Speaker 3: that's And I bet.
Speaker 1: You know the other issue with the low ranking, certainly
Speaker 1: last week at nine and we'll see what happens tonight,
Speaker 1: is it does feel like the and I'm sure it's
Speaker 1: a combination of the CFP Committee, powerful television executives and
Speaker 1: everybody involved in this entire thing, and their look.
Speaker 2: Brand bias is real. That's not new. It always has been.
Speaker 1: It's not a breaking news situation as far as how
Speaker 1: these things are analyzed. But I feel like there's still
Speaker 1: a scenario in playmax where Brigham Young could win their
Speaker 1: final three games, enter the Big twelve championship game at
Speaker 1: twelve and oh and lose to like Colorado or whoever,
Speaker 1: and potentially be left out of the CFP.
Speaker 2: Tell me your thoughts on that.
Speaker 3: That would be criminal. That'd be absolutely criminal if they
Speaker 3: were left out. And I'm with you though, I think
Speaker 3: it's not a it's not out that far out there.
Speaker 3: I think it's certainly a possibility, but that'd be criminal
Speaker 3: because then all of a sudden, you're BYU, You're gonna
Speaker 3: make the armand like, okay, why would we be playing
Speaker 3: the Big tell title game in the first place. Then,
Speaker 3: you know, if we're twelve and oh and all that
Speaker 3: can happen for us is is to miss the playoff,
Speaker 3: we lose, we might as well as not playing it
Speaker 3: right and the just go in as an at large
Speaker 3: team because it would be an at large team at
Speaker 3: twelve and oh, So that to me would be criminal
Speaker 3: if they're twelve and oh, No, matter what happens in
Speaker 3: the playoff in the Big twelve championship game. Now the
Speaker 3: Big Troal title game will determine whether or not b
Speaker 3: YU gets a buye in the first round in my opinion,
Speaker 3: but I do not think, you know, if they're twelve
Speaker 3: and oh, they're making the playoffs no matter what, even
Speaker 3: if they win or lose that game.
Speaker 1: So as you reference, it certainly feels like a team
Speaker 1: of destiny either four and oh in one score games.
Speaker 1: They've had miracle wins on four three three three occasions
Speaker 1: for sure, if not for but they've answered every question
Speaker 1: thrown at them when you dig into b YU, what
Speaker 1: what what are.
Speaker 2: They most elite at?
Speaker 1: And what areas do you still have questions about as
Speaker 1: far as what makes them who they are?
Speaker 3: Honestly, what makes them so elite is the fact that
Speaker 3: they don't really have any glaring weaknesses right now. Right
Speaker 3: There isn't really one thing like Miami is clearly like okay,
Speaker 3: that's cam Ward right carrying this team b YU. This
Speaker 3: is really not a lot that they are you know,
Speaker 3: weak at right now. And I think that's what's been
Speaker 3: so good with the team is that, hey, if one
Speaker 3: part of their team is off on any given week,
Speaker 3: they have a multitude of ways they can win games,
Speaker 3: and honestly, the best teams in college football and the
Speaker 3: best teams in football in general and in sports in general,
Speaker 3: are the teams that can win in the most ways possible,
Speaker 3: right in case one thing's can work out, you as
Speaker 3: you have something else to fall back on, right. So that,
Speaker 3: to me, it's been what's the most impressed about b YU
Speaker 3: this year is they're really playing great, complimentary team football. Obviously,
Speaker 3: Jake Retslop his improvement has been unbelievable and he's been
Speaker 3: maybe the most improved quarterback in college football this year.
Speaker 3: But that, to me, the biggest strength of BYU right
Speaker 3: now is that they don't really have too many glaring weaknesses.
Speaker 1: I saw on your Twitter page you had a chance
Speaker 1: to sit down with Jake recently. I wonder what that
Speaker 1: conversation was like and what stands out most to you
Speaker 1: about how much he's improved.
Speaker 3: That actually was an amazing interview because I don't know
Speaker 3: if you if you know this, but that whole ranking
Speaker 3: that Jake hold up of the picture of him holding
Speaker 3: up the ranking of having him as the worst quarterback
Speaker 3: in the Big Twelve entering the year, and he used
Speaker 3: as motivation and ESPN's and flashing that graphic all the
Speaker 3: time that actually was made by my co host Dn
Speaker 3: Wasson with that ranking, right, So having him on the
Speaker 3: show was really funny. You know. We made dal Nie
Speaker 3: Crow a little bit, which is very funny as well,
Speaker 3: and Jake was such an amazing sport about it. But
Speaker 3: you could tell that he is always looking for the
Speaker 3: next chip on his shoulder. Honestly, you mentioned the the
Speaker 3: betting odds and how UCF was somehow a favorite over BYU.
Speaker 3: He didn't really understand that. He's like, man, I love
Speaker 3: being the underdog. I've been an underwock my whole wife.
Speaker 3: You know, I went to JUCO, I came out of Juco. Obviously,
Speaker 3: you guys ranked me as the worst quarterback in Big twelve.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to ProView wrong. I'm trying to prove everyone
Speaker 3: wrong right now. I think that's what really stood out
Speaker 3: to be the most is that this is a kid
Speaker 3: that is always always looking for the next chip on
Speaker 3: his shoulder and always wants to be the underdog in
Speaker 3: every situation possible.
Speaker 1: So they have Kansas Max coming up on or coming
Speaker 1: up on Saturday. It's a late kickdown in Pro vot
Speaker 1: it's an eight to fifteen kick. And Kansas was one
Speaker 1: of those teams before the season that a lot of
Speaker 1: people thought could be like a sneaky contending team, and
Speaker 1: it didn't turn out that way. However, they've been better
Speaker 1: as of late. They smoked Houston, and Houston has been
Speaker 1: beating some good teams, namely Utah. They probably should have
Speaker 1: won in Manhattan over k State, but they lost, and
Speaker 1: then they hung forty five on Iowa State and BYU
Speaker 1: into Saturday as a three point favorite over Kansas. What
Speaker 1: do you think happens in Provo on Saturday night?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think I would warn BYU fans just don't
Speaker 3: look at the record too much with Kansas. Right, Obviously,
Speaker 3: they're three and six on the year. It doesn't really
Speaker 3: look right on paper. But at the same time, only
Speaker 3: one of their six losses was by more than six
Speaker 3: points this year, Right, So they've basically been playing one
Speaker 3: possession games and being on the wrong end of them
Speaker 3: a lot. Now, this is a lot better team. They're
Speaker 3: probably the best three and six team in comfortable. I look,
Speaker 3: it's really your net argiment there, honestly, So Cans is
Speaker 3: a dangerous team and you saw it last week against
Speaker 3: Iowa State. Obviously they're a very dangerous team that's not
Speaker 3: seem to look over too much. How do I think
Speaker 3: y Used toll gonna win the game? Yes? I do,
Speaker 3: But I do want to caution BYU fans from overlooking
Speaker 3: them just because they're three and six record. They are
Speaker 3: a lot better than that record indicated.
Speaker 1: I want to go back to Saturday night as by
Speaker 1: you rolled up here then rolled out of town with
Speaker 1: a win, and you know the deal man, all the
Speaker 1: controversy after the game about the holding call on fourth
Speaker 1: and ten as Jake was about to be sacked and
Speaker 1: there was a wide receiver split out left, and you know,
Speaker 1: the hot takes have been widespread.
Speaker 2: The opinions all are all over the place.
Speaker 1: You have a lot of people that did say it's
Speaker 1: a foul period, like Terry McCauley. You have a lot
Speaker 1: of people like Joel Klatt saying it's complicated because of
Speaker 1: the lack of consistency with officiating. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you noticed, Utah's athletic director wasn't thrilled about it, and
Speaker 1: the head coach wasn't either as a chair or was
Speaker 1: accosted by coach went after his pressure. First of all,
Speaker 1: your opinion on the call, and then your take on
Speaker 1: the reaction after the game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the call was it was fifty to fifty.
Speaker 3: I personally thought it was the right call. Honestly, I
Speaker 3: think there's enough there to throw the flag on that one.
Speaker 3: And honestly, if you're BYU mean absolutely, if you're a
Speaker 3: Utah Like, if you're a Utah fan, I'd be more
Speaker 3: upset with the way your team performed than just one
Speaker 3: penalty call, right if you leave it up to the refs, like,
Speaker 3: that's on you, honestly, And listen, in Utah scored twenty
Speaker 3: one points in the second quarter, they just score any
Speaker 3: points and the other three quarters combined, right, So I
Speaker 3: think that's really what you should be looking at right
Speaker 3: there is that you know, really, for fifteen minutes you
Speaker 3: played great football. The other forty five minutes you did not, honestly,
Speaker 3: So that's me That's what I think is most disappointing
Speaker 3: part for the Utah fans. They're lost, but obviously they
Speaker 3: always look for a scapegoat, and that palty call at
Speaker 3: the end of the game is a pretty easy I
Speaker 3: thought it was the right call personally. I understand people
Speaker 3: who don't think it was the right call. That was
Speaker 3: very very close, But I don't think it was the
Speaker 3: biggest reason why they lost the game. Honestly, I think
Speaker 3: there was a lot of other reasons why Utah I
Speaker 3: just did not put a white BYU.
Speaker 1: So Mark Carlin after the game with some very spirited comments,
Speaker 1: I wonder what you make of those comments and the
Speaker 1: reaction of the Big twelve to fine him forty K
Speaker 1: and then give him a public reprimand.
Speaker 3: Max, Yeah, it was I've never seen that stuck orter
Speaker 3: do that before. Right, that was first of all, it
Speaker 3: was very rare. Do you see that fleck director after
Speaker 3: a game do his own press conference. I don't even
Speaker 3: think Utah was planning on that. I think he just
Speaker 3: went for the podium and started talking. Honestly. He had
Speaker 3: something to get off his chest, clearly. Yeah, obviously it
Speaker 3: wasn't a great look. And anytime you started accusing a
Speaker 3: conference of, you know, rigging the game when you're an
Speaker 3: eclectritor in the conference, that's not a very good look.
Speaker 3: So the fine and the reprimand the reprimanding, that was
Speaker 3: not a very big surprise to me. I'll based off
Speaker 3: those comments again, that to me wasn't a great look
Speaker 3: for Utah as the flex department. I understand they're frustrat
Speaker 3: I understand it was a very very close balcohol and
Speaker 3: I understand you know, being upset about that, But I
Speaker 3: just I don't think as about Pucker. That's something else
Speaker 3: fans could say. If you're an AD, you can't be
Speaker 3: going out to the media and saying those kinds of things.
Speaker 3: So I completely understand the fine and everything that happened afterwards.
Speaker 1: So to pan back, you know, of course, and you
Speaker 1: and I have talked all season long, and I continue
Speaker 1: to believe that you really can be as reductive as
Speaker 1: saying Cameron Rising was never right this year and that's
Speaker 1: changed everything. But at this point, with five straight losses,
Speaker 1: it feels like it's a lot more than just one position.
Speaker 1: Although coach Wit always talks about the effect that Cameron
Speaker 1: has on his teammates, and we've seen it here in
Speaker 1: Saul Lake firsthand, and when he's right, when he's healthy,
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, his presence simply does lift the group.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what great leaders do. But it can't
Speaker 1: be the only thing to blame. When you've lost five straight,
Speaker 1: You've only won one conference game, and Vegas thought you
Speaker 1: were going to win it. The media thought you were
Speaker 1: going to win it, and certainly you fans were very
Speaker 1: very front facing about their belief that they were going
Speaker 1: to win it too. Why do you think we're sitting
Speaker 1: here in Saul Lake with a four and five team overall,
Speaker 1: with a one in five record in conference play.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think as starts at quarterback, you know, right now,
Speaker 3: I think Utah is the worst passing grade in the
Speaker 3: entire Power four. I just don't think they had too
Speaker 3: much of a plan if Cam Rise and got hurt again,
Speaker 3: which is not great considering he's a guy who's very,
Speaker 3: very injury prone obviously, so Isaac Wilson is a true freshman,
Speaker 3: wasn't really ready to go out there and perform. And
Speaker 3: Brandon Rose deal it did. Actually an admirable job, I
Speaker 3: thought in that bby U game overall, but he's not
Speaker 3: obviously a star quarterback either. It's just they don't have
Speaker 3: a lot a long offensively right now. The receiving corps
Speaker 3: as well. Like braand Keith, he's not done for the year.
Speaker 3: They didn't really have much at wide receiver either. It
Speaker 3: would be really too concerned with either so that I
Speaker 3: also thought the front seven for Utah is just not
Speaker 3: as good as years passed. Honestly, they obviously lost the
Speaker 3: big time players like Jonah Ellis to the draft and
Speaker 3: they just didn't have much of their place and was
Speaker 3: so they they struggled in their front seven as well. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's been a all on the team. I would say
Speaker 3: you can't really put it blame on one thing, but
Speaker 3: I do think that cameras and going down with an injury,
Speaker 3: not only for on field purposes but also off field,
Speaker 3: is leadership. Like you said, that to me was really
Speaker 3: what killed Utah season.
Speaker 1: So one more thing on Saturday, then we'll move on here.
Speaker 1: Because Utah hangs twenty one points in the second quarter,
Speaker 1: and this is an offense that has not been able.
Speaker 1: They haven't scored twenty four or more against a P
Speaker 1: four team all year. And then in the second half,
Speaker 1: Bringham Young hold Utah to seventy nine total yards, four
Speaker 1: first downs, and Utah's possessions went like this, punt interception, punt, punt, punt, punt.
Speaker 1: They I think they didn't even have a play in
Speaker 1: the BYU territory in the second half, and they had
Speaker 1: good field position. The final three possessions ten plays, ten yards,
Speaker 1: and if they found a way just to get three
Speaker 1: in one of their six second half possessions, they might
Speaker 1: win the game. So tell me what you saw from
Speaker 1: your eye in the second half as Utah's offense completely stalled.
Speaker 1: Was it BYU's defensive adjustments. Was it a cautious approach
Speaker 1: from Utah's offense, A little bit of both?
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts?
Speaker 3: I think it was a little bit of both. I
Speaker 3: thought bo did a great job of adjusting to to
Speaker 3: Utah and making sure that Mackay Bernard does not beat you.
Speaker 3: And I think that's really the key for Utah's offense,
Speaker 3: just whether or not they can get but Kai Bernard,
Speaker 3: but not only him. Their their offensive line this year
Speaker 3: is like one of the best in the country that
Speaker 3: I'm blocking too. So it's a combination of those two
Speaker 3: things that make Utah a pretty dangerous team on the ground.
Speaker 3: I think b Yu made a concerted effort in the
Speaker 3: second half just make sure he did not beat him,
Speaker 3: and make sure Brandon Rose is the guy that has
Speaker 3: to beat you. And then if you do that, like
Speaker 3: he was the right of the third string quarterback for Utah,
Speaker 3: entering the year, so yeah, they I think that was
Speaker 3: that to me was the biggest reason why b YU
Speaker 3: was able to win that game, honestly, So yeah, I
Speaker 3: think you know, obviously Utah is not having great a
Speaker 3: passing game was a big factor as well. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of issues there that you
Speaker 3: could see that b YU is able to pull out
Speaker 3: the win.
Speaker 1: So Utah had Zeboulder Saturday morning, ten am early kicktime.
Speaker 1: As far as local stuff goes, that will be on Fox.
Speaker 1: Utah enters the game as a ten point underdog. There
Speaker 1: are a lot of rumors going around, but we haven't
Speaker 1: heard anything official from the university, so I can't I
Speaker 1: can't coroborate. We known brand Keith he's out for the year,
Speaker 1: but since the game there's been some rumors about some
Speaker 1: other players have lost for the year too.
Speaker 2: We'll have to wait and see what that looks like.
Speaker 1: Tell us about these Colorado Buffalo's, what's Deon being able
Speaker 1: to do to really turn that season around? And you
Speaker 1: give Utah at least a puncher's chance on Saturday and Boulders, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 3: Puncher's chances is certainly fair. I mean, there are always
Speaker 3: a well coached team with Kyle Whittingham there, so you
Speaker 3: can never count them out. And obviously they almost pulled
Speaker 3: it off against byuh obviously right, so you can never
Speaker 3: count out Utah. But Connor has done a great job
Speaker 3: of just addressing their weaken system last year, which has
Speaker 3: really been in the trenches, both offensive line and defensive
Speaker 3: line and linebacker. And I think that's really why they've
Speaker 3: went from a four and eight team to one that's
Speaker 3: gonna be maybe in the Big twelve file game, maybe
Speaker 3: even in the coffrotable playoff at the end of the
Speaker 3: year as well. So that's what's really been the most
Speaker 3: improved portnapsis to have maybe the best quarterback in the
Speaker 3: Mayer Arca and Shugart Sanders and myra in my opinion,
Speaker 3: the best player in college football in Travis Hunter. But
Speaker 3: to me, the biggest reason why Colroad so much better
Speaker 3: this year is that they really attacked the portal in
Speaker 3: the trenches offensive line and defensive line. Also got the
Speaker 3: number one offensive lineman in the country coming out of
Speaker 3: high school in Geordan Steens playing great left tackle. That's
Speaker 3: the biggest difference between Colorado last year and this year.
Speaker 1: All right, from a Macro standpoint, Utah needs two wins
Speaker 1: in our final three games to go bowling, and the
Speaker 1: only thing Max wors than playing in a throwaway bowl
Speaker 1: game is not being eligible for one. So it's Colorado
Speaker 1: on the road, as we talked about, it's Iowa stayed
Speaker 1: at home, and then it's UCF on the road.
Speaker 2: Can you talk get two of the final three to
Speaker 2: go bowling.
Speaker 3: I don't think it will happen, but it's certainly possible.
Speaker 3: I think you can look at the Iowa State and
Speaker 3: UCF games is most likely. I don't think the Colorado
Speaker 3: game is most likely one right now. Obviously you host
Speaker 3: Iowa State and Iostate. It's been having a lot of issues.
Speaker 3: I think Iowa Say could be an interesting one because
Speaker 3: Iowa State's frost seven not very good right now, and
Speaker 3: then not even a front seven. They actually run like
Speaker 3: a front six. It's like a three deepens alignment, three linebackers.
Speaker 3: I think Mackay Bernarca have a big day against Iowa State. Honestly,
Speaker 3: that could lead to Utah to a victory. Then UCF
Speaker 3: is another team I think Utah could beat as well.
Speaker 3: Will they win both those games? I don't know. Will
Speaker 3: they win to these three games. I don't know, but
Speaker 3: I think those last two, especially, those are the most
Speaker 3: winnable in my opinion.
Speaker 1: All right, Mack, So, as you know, to start the season,
Speaker 1: everybody was wrong about the Big Twelve, as we know,
Speaker 1: and it seemed to be and there was a little
Speaker 1: bit of variance, but not much. You know, the three
Speaker 1: teams that were picked most to win the conference where Utah,
Speaker 1: Kansas State, and Oklahoma State. So there were a few
Speaker 1: Iowa states in there, but really not nobody picked Brigham Young.
Speaker 1: I didn't see anybody pick Colorado, at least any serious person.
Speaker 1: And so it leads me because Kansas State is still
Speaker 1: had a very good year. But if Utah is disappointing,
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State is shocking. They have not won a conference game.
Speaker 1: They're three and seven overall. What did we get so
Speaker 1: wrong about Oklahoma State? Why has their season just been
Speaker 1: so disastrous?
Speaker 3: The reason, biggest is for me that Oli Gordon is
Speaker 3: a shell of himself right now. He went for the
Speaker 3: best running back in college football last year to nowhere
Speaker 3: even close this year, honestly, And I understand the offensive
Speaker 3: line run blocking wise, still wasn't very good, but it
Speaker 3: wasn't very good last year either, he still ran for
Speaker 3: almost two thousand yards, so that you take away that,
Speaker 3: and now all of a sudden, you know, they were
Speaker 3: really planning on, you know, riding Oli Gordon on their
Speaker 3: offense and they just haven't had that. So now all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, you got to rely on the quarterback
Speaker 3: play and the receivers to do that. I like the receivers,
Speaker 3: but the correct position for them has just been a
Speaker 3: disaster for them, honestly. And then defensively, they have the
Speaker 3: worst run degrade in the entire Power Four and in
Speaker 3: the Big Twelve, where pretty much everyone can run the
Speaker 3: football on an elite level, it was a big problem,
Speaker 3: right if you can't defend the run. And like I said,
Speaker 3: Oklahoma State has the worst run degrade in the entire
Speaker 3: Power four this year, So that to me, their inability
Speaker 3: to run the ball and their inability to stop the run,
Speaker 3: that's just led to a disastrous year for the cow All.
Speaker 1: Right, before I set you loose, one more question about
Speaker 1: BYU because we'll see what the CFP rankings have to
Speaker 1: say tonight, and then you know, as the season goes on,
Speaker 1: we'll understand what the bracket looks like. Because the rankings
Speaker 1: are not the seedings as we know. But if we
Speaker 1: operate off the hypothetical BYU goes to Dallas, they do
Speaker 1: what they have to do to get to the Big
Speaker 1: twelve Championship. They win that, they're in as a top
Speaker 1: four seed first round by if the second round matchup
Speaker 1: is what is you know, Ohio State or somebody like that,
Speaker 1: Like somebody who is either Ohio State Penn State lives
Speaker 1: in that cul de sac. We know BYU is good.
Speaker 1: You can't have any questions left about that. If you
Speaker 1: still have questions, it means you're probably a hater or
Speaker 1: ultimately you know you're poking holes in things that at
Speaker 1: this point through nine games have not led to a loss.
Speaker 1: You beat the teams across from you. You do it
Speaker 1: however you have to. If there's a little luck or
Speaker 1: magic involved or whatever it is, that's the deal.
Speaker 2: So we know they're good.
Speaker 1: Are they good enough to compete with the legitimate top
Speaker 1: you know, three, four or five teams in college football
Speaker 1: this year?
Speaker 3: I think I can compete. I'm not gonna pick them
Speaker 3: to win. Honestly, I think, like I said, I think
Speaker 3: be what you deserve to be ranked in the top
Speaker 3: five in the nation right now, Does that mean I
Speaker 3: think they're actually a top five team in the country. No,
Speaker 3: But I think it's a whole different argument. Right, So
Speaker 3: they're definitely not gonna be favored against those teams and
Speaker 3: probably even maybe even more than a touchdown spread to
Speaker 3: be honestly, you know, in that second round playoff game.
Speaker 3: But I think it's possible they could beat them up. Obviously,
Speaker 3: like Penn State or Ohio State, they're very beatable. We've
Speaker 3: seen that in the past, and BA is a pretty
Speaker 3: good team as well. But I'm not I'm probably gonna
Speaker 3: pick BYU to lose in the second round depending on
Speaker 3: who they play. Uh, but they are certainly they're very
Speaker 3: good to know me wrong, But I just as a
Speaker 3: whole different level that you're talking about the highest state
Speaker 3: as well. So they certainly have a chance and I'm
Speaker 3: not taking that away from them, But we'll see what
Speaker 3: happens in the second round.
Speaker 2: All right? Where can people go get all your work? Max?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can find it all and you want to
Speaker 3: watch the PF COLLG Football Show US on Youtube're actually
Speaker 3: going live at about forty five minutes to go for
Speaker 3: our Week twelve preview show. Actually previewing the BYU game
Speaker 3: and also the Utah game as well. Make sure you
Speaker 3: guys check out the people Comfootball Show on YouTube and
Speaker 3: anywhere you get podcasts.
Speaker 2: All right, buddy, appreciate the time, have a good show today.
Speaker 3: Okay, thanks, ma I appreciate you, all.
Speaker 2: Right, Max Chadwick.
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