WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:02.839 Let's do some college football, some pro football now with 2 00:00:02.879 --> 00:00:05.559 our buddy Max Chadwick from PFF. 3 00:00:05.639 --> 00:00:08.160 Max. Happy Tuesday, Man, How you doing good? 4 00:00:08.199 --> 00:00:09.400 How are you guys doing good? 5 00:00:09.480 --> 00:00:09.640 Man? 6 00:00:09.720 --> 00:00:10.599 Appreciate the time. 7 00:00:11.000 --> 00:00:15.000 Obviously, it was a chaotic weekend here in Salt Lake 8 00:00:15.039 --> 00:00:18.519 City with the rivalry game as Brigham Young rolled up 9 00:00:18.559 --> 00:00:21.160 to Salt Lake and went back to Provo with the win. 10 00:00:22.199 --> 00:00:27.079 So now, simply but BYU's undefeated, their number seven in 11 00:00:27.160 --> 00:00:29.800 the AP. We'll get to the CFP release tonight. But 12 00:00:29.839 --> 00:00:31.879 what did you make of a very dramatic night in 13 00:00:31.879 --> 00:00:33.320 Salt Lake City on Saturday night? 14 00:00:34.520 --> 00:00:36.479 Yeah, it just seems like by us a team of destiny, 15 00:00:36.520 --> 00:00:36.960 it doesn't it? 16 00:00:37.039 --> 00:00:37.320 Right now? 17 00:00:37.399 --> 00:00:39.679 Guys, right over that Oklahoma State game, they had the 18 00:00:39.799 --> 00:00:41.920 game winning drive and nobody thought they they would win 19 00:00:42.000 --> 00:00:44.920 that game. Obviously had another game winning drive against Utah 20 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:48.119 on that one. You know, every great college football team 21 00:00:48.159 --> 00:00:50.320 obviously has got to be a good team first and foremost, 22 00:00:50.399 --> 00:00:52.119 but also you gotta have a little magic as well, 23 00:00:52.119 --> 00:00:54.560 and I think BYU is starting to capture that magic 24 00:00:54.600 --> 00:00:57.079 a little bit. And yeah, I think what they've done 25 00:00:57.119 --> 00:00:59.039 this year is incredible, and I think, you know, seventh 26 00:00:59.079 --> 00:01:02.240 and eight people is way way too low for what 27 00:01:02.280 --> 00:01:05.120 they've done this year resume wise, I personally haven't number 28 00:01:05.159 --> 00:01:07.040 three of my ranking because I think right now, at 29 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:08.959 this point of the season, you've got to be ranking 30 00:01:08.959 --> 00:01:11.159 off of their resume and not in terms of, oh, 31 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:12.120 how good you think. 32 00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:12.519 A team is. 33 00:01:13.239 --> 00:01:16.359 So that leads me to the CFP release tonight. B 34 00:01:16.560 --> 00:01:19.040 YU rolled in at nine last week. I viewed that 35 00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:22.120 as a damning indictment of the Big Twelve Conference as 36 00:01:22.159 --> 00:01:25.280 a whole. And Max, I don't think they're going to 37 00:01:25.319 --> 00:01:26.760 be higher than six or seven tonight. 38 00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:27.480 Maybe I'm wrong. 39 00:01:27.519 --> 00:01:30.159 Where when the release happens tonight, where do you think 40 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:31.200 Breaking Me Young ends up? 41 00:01:32.120 --> 00:01:33.719 Yeah? I'm with you. I think you know, the AP 42 00:01:33.959 --> 00:01:36.200 is probably you know, going to be around where they 43 00:01:36.239 --> 00:01:38.040 had it at, you know, which is the seventh overall. 44 00:01:38.079 --> 00:01:40.519 Like I said, I very much vehemanly disagree with that. 45 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:42.000 I mean, just look at what they've done this year. 46 00:01:42.079 --> 00:01:45.040 Right They beat SMU, who's still fighting for a playoffs 47 00:01:45.040 --> 00:01:46.920 but right now is one of the top playoff contenders. 48 00:01:46.959 --> 00:01:49.000 Maybe could even win the ACC this year the way 49 00:01:49.120 --> 00:01:51.840 is going. They also beat Kansas State, who's still fighting 50 00:01:51.879 --> 00:01:53.879 for a playoffs pot as well. To be Kansastate by 51 00:01:53.879 --> 00:01:56.159 twenty nine points. Right, see be two teams that are 52 00:01:56.280 --> 00:01:58.760 easily top twenty teams in college football are now and 53 00:01:58.799 --> 00:02:01.200 will be in the top twenty the CFP ranking tonight. 54 00:02:01.439 --> 00:02:03.879 You look at a resume like Texas, for example, what 55 00:02:03.920 --> 00:02:06.120 have they done this year? Right? Their best win is 56 00:02:06.120 --> 00:02:08.840 against Vanderbilt and they beat them by three points. Other 57 00:02:08.879 --> 00:02:11.080 than that, like they beat a Michigan team's most six 58 00:02:11.159 --> 00:02:13.240 and six this year, they're they beat an Oklahoma team 59 00:02:13.280 --> 00:02:15.639 is probably go five and seven this year, Like Texas 60 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:18.879 does not have the big wins like BYU does right now. 61 00:02:18.919 --> 00:02:21.240 And Texas, by the way, has a loss this year 62 00:02:21.280 --> 00:02:23.240 as well. I think BYU has not had yet. So 63 00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:26.479 I think BYU at minimum should be number three in 64 00:02:26.479 --> 00:02:28.000 my opinion, but they're gonna be a lot lower than 65 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:29.680 that's And I bet. 66 00:02:29.360 --> 00:02:32.360 You know the other issue with the low ranking, certainly 67 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:34.680 last week at nine and we'll see what happens tonight, 68 00:02:34.919 --> 00:02:37.879 is it does feel like the and I'm sure it's 69 00:02:37.879 --> 00:02:41.360 a combination of the CFP Committee, powerful television executives and 70 00:02:41.360 --> 00:02:44.759 everybody involved in this entire thing, and their look. 71 00:02:44.800 --> 00:02:47.280 Brand bias is real. That's not new. It always has been. 72 00:02:47.319 --> 00:02:50.960 It's not a breaking news situation as far as how 73 00:02:50.960 --> 00:02:54.199 these things are analyzed. But I feel like there's still 74 00:02:54.400 --> 00:02:57.159 a scenario in playmax where Brigham Young could win their 75 00:02:57.199 --> 00:03:00.520 final three games, enter the Big twelve championship game at 76 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:04.599 twelve and oh and lose to like Colorado or whoever, 77 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:07.840 and potentially be left out of the CFP. 78 00:03:08.319 --> 00:03:10.199 Tell me your thoughts on that. 79 00:03:10.199 --> 00:03:13.319 That would be criminal. That'd be absolutely criminal if they 80 00:03:13.319 --> 00:03:15.319 were left out. And I'm with you though, I think 81 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:17.879 it's not a it's not out that far out there. 82 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:20.520 I think it's certainly a possibility, but that'd be criminal 83 00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:22.120 because then all of a sudden, you're BYU, You're gonna 84 00:03:22.159 --> 00:03:23.520 make the armand like, okay, why would we be playing 85 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:25.000 the Big tell title game in the first place. Then, 86 00:03:25.039 --> 00:03:26.879 you know, if we're twelve and oh and all that 87 00:03:26.879 --> 00:03:28.919 can happen for us is is to miss the playoff, 88 00:03:28.919 --> 00:03:31.599 we lose, we might as well as not playing it 89 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:33.120 right and the just go in as an at large 90 00:03:33.159 --> 00:03:34.560 team because it would be an at large team at 91 00:03:34.599 --> 00:03:36.840 twelve and oh, So that to me would be criminal 92 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:39.120 if they're twelve and oh, No, matter what happens in 93 00:03:39.199 --> 00:03:41.479 the playoff in the Big twelve championship game. Now the 94 00:03:41.479 --> 00:03:43.319 Big Troal title game will determine whether or not b 95 00:03:43.439 --> 00:03:45.560 YU gets a buye in the first round in my opinion, 96 00:03:45.879 --> 00:03:48.000 but I do not think, you know, if they're twelve 97 00:03:48.000 --> 00:03:49.639 and oh, they're making the playoffs no matter what, even 98 00:03:49.639 --> 00:03:50.759 if they win or lose that game. 99 00:03:51.439 --> 00:03:53.800 So as you reference, it certainly feels like a team 100 00:03:53.840 --> 00:03:56.800 of destiny either four and oh in one score games. 101 00:03:56.879 --> 00:04:00.879 They've had miracle wins on four three three three occasions 102 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:03.199 for sure, if not for but they've answered every question 103 00:04:03.319 --> 00:04:06.680 thrown at them when you dig into b YU, what 104 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:08.120 what what are. 105 00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:09.120 They most elite at? 106 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:11.800 And what areas do you still have questions about as 107 00:04:11.800 --> 00:04:13.319 far as what makes them who they are? 108 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:17.240 Honestly, what makes them so elite is the fact that 109 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:20.399 they don't really have any glaring weaknesses right now. Right 110 00:04:20.480 --> 00:04:23.319 There isn't really one thing like Miami is clearly like okay, 111 00:04:23.360 --> 00:04:26.360 that's cam Ward right carrying this team b YU. This 112 00:04:26.439 --> 00:04:28.639 is really not a lot that they are you know, 113 00:04:28.839 --> 00:04:30.720 weak at right now. And I think that's what's been 114 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:32.639 so good with the team is that, hey, if one 115 00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:34.680 part of their team is off on any given week, 116 00:04:35.000 --> 00:04:36.920 they have a multitude of ways they can win games, 117 00:04:36.959 --> 00:04:38.680 and honestly, the best teams in college football and the 118 00:04:38.680 --> 00:04:41.399 best teams in football in general and in sports in general, 119 00:04:41.600 --> 00:04:43.879 are the teams that can win in the most ways possible, 120 00:04:43.959 --> 00:04:45.720 right in case one thing's can work out, you as 121 00:04:45.879 --> 00:04:47.920 you have something else to fall back on, right. So that, 122 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:49.680 to me, it's been what's the most impressed about b YU 123 00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:53.279 this year is they're really playing great, complimentary team football. Obviously, 124 00:04:53.360 --> 00:04:56.800 Jake Retslop his improvement has been unbelievable and he's been 125 00:04:56.839 --> 00:04:59.040 maybe the most improved quarterback in college football this year. 126 00:04:59.079 --> 00:05:01.519 But that, to me, the biggest strength of BYU right 127 00:05:01.519 --> 00:05:03.959 now is that they don't really have too many glaring weaknesses. 128 00:05:04.680 --> 00:05:06.360 I saw on your Twitter page you had a chance 129 00:05:06.399 --> 00:05:08.600 to sit down with Jake recently. I wonder what that 130 00:05:08.639 --> 00:05:10.959 conversation was like and what stands out most to you 131 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:12.279 about how much he's improved. 132 00:05:13.720 --> 00:05:16.120 That actually was an amazing interview because I don't know 133 00:05:16.160 --> 00:05:18.839 if you if you know this, but that whole ranking 134 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:21.279 that Jake hold up of the picture of him holding 135 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:24.120 up the ranking of having him as the worst quarterback 136 00:05:24.160 --> 00:05:26.040 in the Big Twelve entering the year, and he used 137 00:05:26.040 --> 00:05:28.480 as motivation and ESPN's and flashing that graphic all the 138 00:05:28.560 --> 00:05:31.040 time that actually was made by my co host Dn 139 00:05:31.160 --> 00:05:33.480 Wasson with that ranking, right, So having him on the 140 00:05:33.480 --> 00:05:35.639 show was really funny. You know. We made dal Nie 141 00:05:35.680 --> 00:05:37.319 Crow a little bit, which is very funny as well, 142 00:05:37.360 --> 00:05:39.439 and Jake was such an amazing sport about it. But 143 00:05:39.480 --> 00:05:41.279 you could tell that he is always looking for the 144 00:05:41.279 --> 00:05:44.040 next chip on his shoulder. Honestly, you mentioned the the 145 00:05:44.120 --> 00:05:48.040 betting odds and how UCF was somehow a favorite over BYU. 146 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:50.279 He didn't really understand that. He's like, man, I love 147 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:52.639 being the underdog. I've been an underwock my whole wife. 148 00:05:52.639 --> 00:05:55.839 You know, I went to JUCO, I came out of Juco. Obviously, 149 00:05:55.879 --> 00:05:57.600 you guys ranked me as the worst quarterback in Big twelve. 150 00:05:57.639 --> 00:05:59.600 I'm trying to ProView wrong. I'm trying to prove everyone 151 00:05:59.639 --> 00:06:01.839 wrong right now. I think that's what really stood out 152 00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:03.600 to be the most is that this is a kid 153 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:05.839 that is always always looking for the next chip on 154 00:06:05.879 --> 00:06:08.240 his shoulder and always wants to be the underdog in 155 00:06:08.279 --> 00:06:09.439 every situation possible. 156 00:06:09.560 --> 00:06:13.959 So they have Kansas Max coming up on or coming 157 00:06:14.040 --> 00:06:16.319 up on Saturday. It's a late kickdown in Pro vot 158 00:06:16.360 --> 00:06:19.319 it's an eight to fifteen kick. And Kansas was one 159 00:06:19.360 --> 00:06:22.120 of those teams before the season that a lot of 160 00:06:22.120 --> 00:06:24.879 people thought could be like a sneaky contending team, and 161 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:28.199 it didn't turn out that way. However, they've been better 162 00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:30.839 as of late. They smoked Houston, and Houston has been 163 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:34.560 beating some good teams, namely Utah. They probably should have 164 00:06:34.600 --> 00:06:37.360 won in Manhattan over k State, but they lost, and 165 00:06:37.399 --> 00:06:40.600 then they hung forty five on Iowa State and BYU 166 00:06:40.639 --> 00:06:44.959 into Saturday as a three point favorite over Kansas. What 167 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:46.800 do you think happens in Provo on Saturday night? 168 00:06:47.759 --> 00:06:49.920 Yeah? I think I would warn BYU fans just don't 169 00:06:49.920 --> 00:06:52.160 look at the record too much with Kansas. Right, Obviously, 170 00:06:52.160 --> 00:06:53.879 they're three and six on the year. It doesn't really 171 00:06:53.920 --> 00:06:57.160 look right on paper. But at the same time, only 172 00:06:57.240 --> 00:06:59.959 one of their six losses was by more than six 173 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:03.639 points this year, Right, So they've basically been playing one 174 00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:05.800 possession games and being on the wrong end of them 175 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:08.120 a lot. Now, this is a lot better team. They're 176 00:07:08.120 --> 00:07:10.000 probably the best three and six team in comfortable. I look, 177 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:12.639 it's really your net argiment there, honestly, So Cans is 178 00:07:12.639 --> 00:07:14.800 a dangerous team and you saw it last week against 179 00:07:14.839 --> 00:07:17.959 Iowa State. Obviously they're a very dangerous team that's not 180 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:19.839 seem to look over too much. How do I think 181 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:21.439 y Used toll gonna win the game? Yes? I do, 182 00:07:21.600 --> 00:07:24.920 But I do want to caution BYU fans from overlooking 183 00:07:24.959 --> 00:07:26.720 them just because they're three and six record. They are 184 00:07:26.720 --> 00:07:28.680 a lot better than that record indicated. 185 00:07:29.240 --> 00:07:31.720 I want to go back to Saturday night as by 186 00:07:31.800 --> 00:07:33.480 you rolled up here then rolled out of town with 187 00:07:33.560 --> 00:07:35.839 a win, and you know the deal man, all the 188 00:07:35.879 --> 00:07:38.800 controversy after the game about the holding call on fourth 189 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:41.920 and ten as Jake was about to be sacked and 190 00:07:41.959 --> 00:07:44.920 there was a wide receiver split out left, and you know, 191 00:07:45.279 --> 00:07:47.439 the hot takes have been widespread. 192 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:49.639 The opinions all are all over the place. 193 00:07:49.720 --> 00:07:51.079 You have a lot of people that did say it's 194 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:53.319 a foul period, like Terry McCauley. You have a lot 195 00:07:53.319 --> 00:07:56.120 of people like Joel Klatt saying it's complicated because of 196 00:07:56.680 --> 00:07:59.920 the lack of consistency with officiating. I don't know if 197 00:07:59.920 --> 00:08:02.959 you noticed, Utah's athletic director wasn't thrilled about it, and 198 00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:05.800 the head coach wasn't either as a chair or was 199 00:08:06.160 --> 00:08:09.399 accosted by coach went after his pressure. First of all, 200 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:11.600 your opinion on the call, and then your take on 201 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:12.800 the reaction after the game. 202 00:08:14.079 --> 00:08:18.519 Yeah, I think the call was it was fifty to fifty. 203 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:20.560 I personally thought it was the right call. Honestly, I 204 00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:23.399 think there's enough there to throw the flag on that one. 205 00:08:23.600 --> 00:08:25.879 And honestly, if you're BYU mean absolutely, if you're a 206 00:08:25.959 --> 00:08:28.199 Utah Like, if you're a Utah fan, I'd be more 207 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:31.480 upset with the way your team performed than just one 208 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:33.919 penalty call, right if you leave it up to the refs, like, 209 00:08:33.960 --> 00:08:36.879 that's on you, honestly, And listen, in Utah scored twenty 210 00:08:36.919 --> 00:08:39.799 one points in the second quarter, they just score any 211 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:42.879 points and the other three quarters combined, right, So I 212 00:08:42.919 --> 00:08:44.879 think that's really what you should be looking at right 213 00:08:44.919 --> 00:08:46.919 there is that you know, really, for fifteen minutes you 214 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:50.360 played great football. The other forty five minutes you did not, honestly, 215 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:53.360 So that's me That's what I think is most disappointing 216 00:08:53.399 --> 00:08:56.200 part for the Utah fans. They're lost, but obviously they 217 00:08:56.200 --> 00:08:58.639 always look for a scapegoat, and that palty call at 218 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:00.519 the end of the game is a pretty easy I 219 00:09:00.559 --> 00:09:02.519 thought it was the right call personally. I understand people 220 00:09:02.519 --> 00:09:03.840 who don't think it was the right call. That was 221 00:09:03.919 --> 00:09:06.000 very very close, But I don't think it was the 222 00:09:06.039 --> 00:09:08.159 biggest reason why they lost the game. Honestly, I think 223 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:10.039 there was a lot of other reasons why Utah I 224 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:11.320 just did not put a white BYU. 225 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:14.480 So Mark Carlin after the game with some very spirited comments, 226 00:09:14.480 --> 00:09:16.720 I wonder what you make of those comments and the 227 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:19.120 reaction of the Big twelve to fine him forty K 228 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:22.360 and then give him a public reprimand. 229 00:09:21.799 --> 00:09:25.919 Max, Yeah, it was I've never seen that stuck orter 230 00:09:25.960 --> 00:09:28.399 do that before. Right, that was first of all, it 231 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:30.600 was very rare. Do you see that fleck director after 232 00:09:30.600 --> 00:09:32.720 a game do his own press conference. I don't even 233 00:09:32.759 --> 00:09:34.399 think Utah was planning on that. I think he just 234 00:09:34.480 --> 00:09:37.000 went for the podium and started talking. Honestly. He had 235 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:40.240 something to get off his chest, clearly. Yeah, obviously it 236 00:09:40.279 --> 00:09:42.759 wasn't a great look. And anytime you started accusing a 237 00:09:42.840 --> 00:09:45.879 conference of, you know, rigging the game when you're an 238 00:09:45.879 --> 00:09:48.759 eclectritor in the conference, that's not a very good look. 239 00:09:48.840 --> 00:09:51.639 So the fine and the reprimand the reprimanding, that was 240 00:09:51.720 --> 00:09:54.039 not a very big surprise to me. I'll based off 241 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:57.639 those comments again, that to me wasn't a great look 242 00:09:57.679 --> 00:10:00.000 for Utah as the flex department. I understand they're frustrat 243 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:02.519 I understand it was a very very close balcohol and 244 00:10:02.519 --> 00:10:05.840 I understand you know, being upset about that, But I 245 00:10:06.039 --> 00:10:08.080 just I don't think as about Pucker. That's something else 246 00:10:08.159 --> 00:10:11.039 fans could say. If you're an AD, you can't be 247 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:12.960 going out to the media and saying those kinds of things. 248 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:16.320 So I completely understand the fine and everything that happened afterwards. 249 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:19.279 So to pan back, you know, of course, and you 250 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:21.480 and I have talked all season long, and I continue 251 00:10:21.480 --> 00:10:24.000 to believe that you really can be as reductive as 252 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:26.840 saying Cameron Rising was never right this year and that's 253 00:10:26.919 --> 00:10:30.360 changed everything. But at this point, with five straight losses, 254 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:33.840 it feels like it's a lot more than just one position. 255 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:37.120 Although coach Wit always talks about the effect that Cameron 256 00:10:37.159 --> 00:10:40.279 has on his teammates, and we've seen it here in 257 00:10:40.279 --> 00:10:43.120 Saul Lake firsthand, and when he's right, when he's healthy, 258 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:47.559 for whatever reason, his presence simply does lift the group. 259 00:10:47.600 --> 00:10:50.519 I mean, that's what great leaders do. But it can't 260 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:53.120 be the only thing to blame. When you've lost five straight, 261 00:10:53.159 --> 00:10:56.440 You've only won one conference game, and Vegas thought you 262 00:10:56.440 --> 00:10:57.960 were going to win it. The media thought you were 263 00:10:57.960 --> 00:11:00.519 going to win it, and certainly you fans were very 264 00:11:00.600 --> 00:11:02.879 very front facing about their belief that they were going 265 00:11:02.919 --> 00:11:05.679 to win it too. Why do you think we're sitting 266 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:08.639 here in Saul Lake with a four and five team overall, 267 00:11:08.679 --> 00:11:10.720 with a one in five record in conference play. 268 00:11:12.159 --> 00:11:15.279 Yeah, I think as starts at quarterback, you know, right now, 269 00:11:15.279 --> 00:11:17.080 I think Utah is the worst passing grade in the 270 00:11:17.159 --> 00:11:19.360 entire Power four. I just don't think they had too 271 00:11:19.440 --> 00:11:21.480 much of a plan if Cam Rise and got hurt again, 272 00:11:21.519 --> 00:11:23.960 which is not great considering he's a guy who's very, 273 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:27.840 very injury prone obviously, so Isaac Wilson is a true freshman, 274 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:29.919 wasn't really ready to go out there and perform. And 275 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:32.960 Brandon Rose deal it did. Actually an admirable job, I 276 00:11:32.960 --> 00:11:35.440 thought in that bby U game overall, but he's not 277 00:11:35.559 --> 00:11:38.639 obviously a star quarterback either. It's just they don't have 278 00:11:38.639 --> 00:11:40.639 a lot a long offensively right now. The receiving corps 279 00:11:40.639 --> 00:11:42.480 as well. Like braand Keith, he's not done for the year. 280 00:11:42.720 --> 00:11:44.679 They didn't really have much at wide receiver either. It 281 00:11:44.679 --> 00:11:48.200 would be really too concerned with either so that I 282 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:51.519 also thought the front seven for Utah is just not 283 00:11:51.600 --> 00:11:53.919 as good as years passed. Honestly, they obviously lost the 284 00:11:53.960 --> 00:11:56.679 big time players like Jonah Ellis to the draft and 285 00:11:56.919 --> 00:11:58.279 they just didn't have much of their place and was 286 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:01.000 so they they struggled in their front seven as well. Yeah, 287 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:04.200 it's been a all on the team. I would say 288 00:12:04.279 --> 00:12:06.399 you can't really put it blame on one thing, but 289 00:12:06.879 --> 00:12:09.240 I do think that cameras and going down with an injury, 290 00:12:09.279 --> 00:12:11.480 not only for on field purposes but also off field, 291 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:14.080 is leadership. Like you said, that to me was really 292 00:12:14.120 --> 00:12:15.240 what killed Utah season. 293 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:18.480 So one more thing on Saturday, then we'll move on here. 294 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:21.279 Because Utah hangs twenty one points in the second quarter, 295 00:12:21.600 --> 00:12:23.639 and this is an offense that has not been able. 296 00:12:23.679 --> 00:12:25.799 They haven't scored twenty four or more against a P 297 00:12:25.879 --> 00:12:28.480 four team all year. And then in the second half, 298 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:32.240 Bringham Young hold Utah to seventy nine total yards, four 299 00:12:32.879 --> 00:12:38.200 first downs, and Utah's possessions went like this, punt interception, punt, punt, punt, punt. 300 00:12:38.919 --> 00:12:41.360 They I think they didn't even have a play in 301 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:44.320 the BYU territory in the second half, and they had 302 00:12:44.360 --> 00:12:47.879 good field position. The final three possessions ten plays, ten yards, 303 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:50.200 and if they found a way just to get three 304 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:54.200 in one of their six second half possessions, they might 305 00:12:54.279 --> 00:12:57.120 win the game. So tell me what you saw from 306 00:12:57.159 --> 00:13:01.440 your eye in the second half as Utah's offense completely stalled. 307 00:13:01.919 --> 00:13:05.360 Was it BYU's defensive adjustments. Was it a cautious approach 308 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:07.120 from Utah's offense, A little bit of both? 309 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:08.320 What are your thoughts? 310 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:10.240 I think it was a little bit of both. I 311 00:13:10.279 --> 00:13:12.960 thought bo did a great job of adjusting to to 312 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:16.120 Utah and making sure that Mackay Bernard does not beat you. 313 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:17.960 And I think that's really the key for Utah's offense, 314 00:13:18.039 --> 00:13:19.919 just whether or not they can get but Kai Bernard, 315 00:13:19.919 --> 00:13:22.000 but not only him. Their their offensive line this year 316 00:13:22.080 --> 00:13:23.320 is like one of the best in the country that 317 00:13:23.440 --> 00:13:25.360 I'm blocking too. So it's a combination of those two 318 00:13:25.360 --> 00:13:27.679 things that make Utah a pretty dangerous team on the ground. 319 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:30.000 I think b Yu made a concerted effort in the 320 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:31.720 second half just make sure he did not beat him, 321 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:34.120 and make sure Brandon Rose is the guy that has 322 00:13:34.159 --> 00:13:35.720 to beat you. And then if you do that, like 323 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:37.840 he was the right of the third string quarterback for Utah, 324 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:40.360 entering the year, so yeah, they I think that was 325 00:13:40.399 --> 00:13:43.559 that to me was the biggest reason why b YU 326 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:45.960 was able to win that game, honestly, So yeah, I 327 00:13:45.960 --> 00:13:48.440 think you know, obviously Utah is not having great a 328 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:51.320 passing game was a big factor as well. But yeah, 329 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:52.720 I think there's a lot of issues there that you 330 00:13:52.720 --> 00:13:54.600 could see that b YU is able to pull out 331 00:13:54.639 --> 00:13:54.799 the win. 332 00:13:55.320 --> 00:13:59.279 So Utah had Zeboulder Saturday morning, ten am early kicktime. 333 00:13:59.480 --> 00:14:02.279 As far as local stuff goes, that will be on Fox. 334 00:14:03.039 --> 00:14:07.000 Utah enters the game as a ten point underdog. There 335 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:09.000 are a lot of rumors going around, but we haven't 336 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:11.240 heard anything official from the university, so I can't I 337 00:14:11.279 --> 00:14:14.039 can't coroborate. We known brand Keith he's out for the year, 338 00:14:14.120 --> 00:14:16.679 but since the game there's been some rumors about some 339 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:18.120 other players have lost for the year too. 340 00:14:18.159 --> 00:14:19.759 We'll have to wait and see what that looks like. 341 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:23.240 Tell us about these Colorado Buffalo's, what's Deon being able 342 00:14:23.279 --> 00:14:25.120 to do to really turn that season around? And you 343 00:14:25.200 --> 00:14:30.799 give Utah at least a puncher's chance on Saturday and Boulders, Yeah, 344 00:14:30.840 --> 00:14:31.240 I think. 345 00:14:31.080 --> 00:14:33.399 Puncher's chances is certainly fair. I mean, there are always 346 00:14:33.399 --> 00:14:35.240 a well coached team with Kyle Whittingham there, so you 347 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:36.919 can never count them out. And obviously they almost pulled 348 00:14:36.919 --> 00:14:39.480 it off against byuh obviously right, so you can never 349 00:14:39.559 --> 00:14:42.320 count out Utah. But Connor has done a great job 350 00:14:42.320 --> 00:14:44.200 of just addressing their weaken system last year, which has 351 00:14:44.200 --> 00:14:46.639 really been in the trenches, both offensive line and defensive 352 00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:49.120 line and linebacker. And I think that's really why they've 353 00:14:49.120 --> 00:14:50.919 went from a four and eight team to one that's 354 00:14:50.919 --> 00:14:53.000 gonna be maybe in the Big twelve file game, maybe 355 00:14:53.039 --> 00:14:54.639 even in the coffrotable playoff at the end of the 356 00:14:54.679 --> 00:14:57.519 year as well. So that's what's really been the most 357 00:14:57.519 --> 00:14:59.759 improved portnapsis to have maybe the best quarterback in the 358 00:14:59.759 --> 00:15:02.399 Mayer Arca and Shugart Sanders and myra in my opinion, 359 00:15:02.480 --> 00:15:05.919 the best player in college football in Travis Hunter. But 360 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:08.480 to me, the biggest reason why Colroad so much better 361 00:15:08.519 --> 00:15:11.320 this year is that they really attacked the portal in 362 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:14.440 the trenches offensive line and defensive line. Also got the 363 00:15:14.519 --> 00:15:16.559 number one offensive lineman in the country coming out of 364 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:19.720 high school in Geordan Steens playing great left tackle. That's 365 00:15:19.720 --> 00:15:22.000 the biggest difference between Colorado last year and this year. 366 00:15:22.759 --> 00:15:26.240 All right, from a Macro standpoint, Utah needs two wins 367 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:28.600 in our final three games to go bowling, and the 368 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:31.840 only thing Max wors than playing in a throwaway bowl 369 00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:34.879 game is not being eligible for one. So it's Colorado 370 00:15:34.919 --> 00:15:36.960 on the road, as we talked about, it's Iowa stayed 371 00:15:36.960 --> 00:15:39.360 at home, and then it's UCF on the road. 372 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:41.480 Can you talk get two of the final three to 373 00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:41.960 go bowling. 374 00:15:43.919 --> 00:15:46.480 I don't think it will happen, but it's certainly possible. 375 00:15:46.960 --> 00:15:49.080 I think you can look at the Iowa State and 376 00:15:49.519 --> 00:15:51.960 UCF games is most likely. I don't think the Colorado 377 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:54.279 game is most likely one right now. Obviously you host 378 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:56.440 Iowa State and Iostate. It's been having a lot of issues. 379 00:15:56.480 --> 00:15:58.600 I think Iowa Say could be an interesting one because 380 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:01.559 Iowa State's frost seven not very good right now, and 381 00:16:01.559 --> 00:16:03.519 then not even a front seven. They actually run like 382 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:06.480 a front six. It's like a three deepens alignment, three linebackers. 383 00:16:06.720 --> 00:16:09.440 I think Mackay Bernarca have a big day against Iowa State. Honestly, 384 00:16:09.480 --> 00:16:12.120 that could lead to Utah to a victory. Then UCF 385 00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:14.240 is another team I think Utah could beat as well. 386 00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:16.919 Will they win both those games? I don't know. Will 387 00:16:16.960 --> 00:16:19.080 they win to these three games. I don't know, but 388 00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:21.519 I think those last two, especially, those are the most 389 00:16:21.559 --> 00:16:22.480 winnable in my opinion. 390 00:16:22.919 --> 00:16:26.080 All right, Mack, So, as you know, to start the season, 391 00:16:26.320 --> 00:16:28.679 everybody was wrong about the Big Twelve, as we know, 392 00:16:29.440 --> 00:16:31.360 and it seemed to be and there was a little 393 00:16:31.360 --> 00:16:33.759 bit of variance, but not much. You know, the three 394 00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:37.399 teams that were picked most to win the conference where Utah, 395 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:41.720 Kansas State, and Oklahoma State. So there were a few 396 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:45.399 Iowa states in there, but really not nobody picked Brigham Young. 397 00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:48.200 I didn't see anybody pick Colorado, at least any serious person. 398 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:51.519 And so it leads me because Kansas State is still 399 00:16:51.519 --> 00:16:54.360 had a very good year. But if Utah is disappointing, 400 00:16:54.519 --> 00:16:58.480 Oklahoma State is shocking. They have not won a conference game. 401 00:16:58.960 --> 00:17:01.200