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Speaker 2: We were talking about to Department of Government efficiency, all
Speaker 2: the headlines that have been made made by Elon Musk
Speaker 2: and his group. A federal judge today has temporarily blocked
Speaker 2: DOGE from containing access to certain Treasury Department payment records.
Speaker 2: This temporary restraining order from Judge Colleen Koller Kotili says
Speaker 2: the Treasury officials will not provide access to any payment
Speaker 2: record or payment system of records maintained within the Treasury
Speaker 2: Bureau of Fiscal Service. That's the program that handles about
Speaker 2: ninety percent of federal payments trillions of dollars. But this
Speaker 2: order comes after the Justice Department yesterday had agreed in
Speaker 2: a proposed court order to make sure that they limit
Speaker 2: access to the sensitive records to only two DOGE employees
Speaker 2: special government employees within DOGE, and those two would only
Speaker 2: have read only permission. This was approved today in a
Speaker 2: brief order that came out from the judge. The share
Speaker 2: by the way of Republicans who say they want Elon
Speaker 2: Musk to have significant influence and the Trump administration has
Speaker 2: fallen precipitously. In a poll that was taken just a
Speaker 2: few days after the election, forty seven percent of Republicans
Speaker 2: surveyed said they wanted Musk to have a lot of
Speaker 2: influence in the Trump administration. Twenty nine percent said a little. Today,
Speaker 2: the share of Republicans is way down. It went from
Speaker 2: forty seven to twenty six percent. Meanwhile, they want Elon
Speaker 2: must to have a little influence ballooned. It's up to
Speaker 2: forty three percent, and now seventeen percent say they don't
Speaker 2: want him to have any influence at all.
Speaker 3: Hey, Gary, for everybody who's blowing a gasket about Doge,
Speaker 3: Trump is not the first president to appoint an agency
Speaker 3: or a committee like this. All kinds of presidents from
Speaker 3: both sides of the aisle have done it. Woodrow Wilson
Speaker 3: FDR appointed a committee, Reagan al Gore had a big one.
Speaker 3: It's called different things, but you know, within the president's
Speaker 3: purview to appoint a committee to do this. People just
Speaker 3: want to complain, they really do have a great day. Well,
Speaker 3: I'm Shannon, hope you too feels better.
Speaker 4: Thank you for that.
Speaker 2: John Foster Dulles, for example, back in nineteen fifty three
Speaker 2: was another example of what they referred to as a
Speaker 2: government cleanup. Now at the time, he wasn't looking for
Speaker 2: inefficiencies in government. He was technically looking for communists, spies.
Speaker 4: And sympathizers. Not without reason.
Speaker 2: I mean, there were there were some people in the
Speaker 2: government who who did fit that bill, but they were
Speaker 2: talking about getting rid of communists and communist sympathizers within
Speaker 2: the government. It's not exactly analogous to what's going on today,
Speaker 2: but this has happened before. There have been people dulles
Speaker 2: would go around and demand not just loyalty, but what
Speaker 2: they were referred to as positive loyalty, not just to
Speaker 2: him but also to the cause.
Speaker 4: So I mean it's it's happened.
Speaker 2: Before, and the great potential is that it's going to
Speaker 2: up and again at some point.
Speaker 1: Some problem with what Musk is doing is that he's
Speaker 1: doing it without any oversight, and the Republicans who hold
Speaker 1: all of the controls over having oversight, are not exercising
Speaker 1: their responsibility to conduct that oversight. That's the problem.
Speaker 4: That is one of the problems.
Speaker 2: But it's not that it's there's not oversight, it's that
Speaker 2: it's not visible, right, Now, someone like Susie Wiles, White
Speaker 2: House chief of Staff. She is the one who's probably
Speaker 2: going to have the most oversight when it comes to this,
Speaker 2: because I think Donald Trump has sort of given Elon
Speaker 2: Musk free reign to do it. Susie Wiles is the
Speaker 2: one who knows that there are limitations, so we can't
Speaker 2: This thing's only been in effect for a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks now, so we've got to figure out exactly how
Speaker 2: this is going to work all right. Locally, the Eaton
Speaker 2: fire over now to Dina burn more than fourteen thousand acres,
Speaker 2: and the county sent out evacuation alerts to some areas
Speaker 2: that were too late, and they did not use all
Speaker 2: of the public warning channels at its disposal, and we've
Speaker 2: seen that those lapses have had disastrous and in some
Speaker 2: cases deadly results. Half of the La County Fire Department
Speaker 2: waterdowsing helicopters were out of service. Apparently that equipment issue
Speaker 2: like that means that firefighters didn't have all the tools
Speaker 2: at their disposal. Despite the fact that we knew that
Speaker 2: a massive wind storm was coming in and had been
Speaker 2: warned about for several days. Wall Street Journal came out
Speaker 2: with a report that said this is a sort of
Speaker 2: a cascading event, a cascading series of problems that may
Speaker 2: have led to the deaths of many many people on
Speaker 2: that west side of Altadena. For example, Juan and Lori
Speaker 2: Corral lived west of Lake Avenue. They've been there for
Speaker 2: about nineteen years. They raised their teenage kids there, and
Speaker 2: about dinner time they know the fire started six thirty ish.
Speaker 2: They had lost power. About forty minutes later, he goes
Speaker 2: outside and he actually takes a video of the fire
Speaker 2: approaching and said that they were listening for an evacuation
Speaker 2: alert on the radio, specifically to the east of Lake Avenue.
Speaker 2: All those alerts started to come in, but none of
Speaker 2: them went to the Corrals on the west side of
Speaker 2: Lake Avenue, and one reassured his wife, don't worry, they'll
Speaker 2: give us notice when it's time to leave. Their actual
Speaker 2: warning came from neighbors, not from any official source, and
Speaker 2: they left their house at about nine to twenty three.
Speaker 2: They did take some things, but not enough. They had
Speaker 2: no idea when they would have been able to return.
Speaker 2: In an emergency alert system that can broadcast an evacuation
Speaker 2: alert and warnings to lowal radio and TV, stations was
Speaker 2: never activated by the county for the fire. They were
Speaker 2: relying on the push notifications that went out via your
Speaker 2: cell phone and the emergency alert system that they've got.
Speaker 2: That's not the one that we do, you know, the
Speaker 2: ones that we play, But they were using their own systems.
Speaker 2: The La County Coordinated Joint Information Center set in a
Speaker 2: statement it couldn't immediately comment on all of this.
Speaker 4: They're doing their own third party.
Speaker 2: Review the Board of Supervisors this when it comes to
Speaker 2: the emergency notification system. But this Joint Information Center is
Speaker 2: designed to release public information to all the different agencies
Speaker 2: during an emergency, and the Sheriff's Department, the fire departments
Speaker 2: supposed to work in unified command to gather to identify
Speaker 2: evacuation areas OEM. The Office of Emergency Management issues orders
Speaker 2: through their emergency notification system. According to calls that were
Speaker 2: obtained by the Wall Street Journal, firefighters were made aware
Speaker 2: of at least ten houses on the west side of
Speaker 2: Lake Avenue that were on fire before an alert was
Speaker 2: actually sent, and it wasn't until three twenty five in
Speaker 2: the morning, at least nine hours after the fire started,
Speaker 2: before an evacuation alert was sent to the west side
Speaker 2: of Lake Avenue. A little bit more on this and
Speaker 2: another story that you've heard Amy mention all morning, Edison
Speaker 2: is now taking at least some potential responsibility for one
Speaker 2: of the fires. A bunch of stories that we are following.
Speaker 2: The EPA is going to establish a household hazardous waste
Speaker 2: staging site will Rogers State Beach.
Speaker 4: We'll talk about that coming up in a little bit.
Speaker 2: President Trump has taken the Truth Social to flesh out
Speaker 2: a little bit of his idea of what the plan
Speaker 2: would be for the United States to take over Gaza.
Speaker 2: He said Palestinians would have already been resettled in far
Speaker 2: safer and more beautiful communities after the United States is
Speaker 2: handed Gaza by Israel at the conclusion of fighting, So
Speaker 2: whenever that would be, and he said, the US, working
Speaker 2: with the great development teams from all over the world,
Speaker 2: would slowly and carefully begin the construction of what would
Speaker 2: become one of the greatest and most spectacular developments of
Speaker 2: its kind on Earth. A new strain of H five
Speaker 2: N one bird flu has spread to six dairy herds
Speaker 2: in Nevada. The Department of Agriculture there says this new
Speaker 2: strain called D one DOT one has been connected to
Speaker 2: serious infections in humans, but it is different than the
Speaker 2: B three one three. It was detected in other dairy
Speaker 2: herds throughout the country. This newer strain was first detected
Speaker 2: in birds, and people came in contact with some infected birds.
Speaker 2: We'll talk more about political stuff when we get into
Speaker 2: swamp Watch. At the top of the hour, we were
Speaker 2: talking about the Wall Street Journal's breakdown about what happened
Speaker 2: in the hours leading up to and during the Eaten
Speaker 2: fire over in Altadena, when emergency evacuation alerts for those
Speaker 2: people on the west side of Lake Avenue came way
Speaker 2: too late, many many hours after that fire had started,
Speaker 2: and even after some of the homes on the west
Speaker 2: side of Lake Avenue were in fact on fire. One
Speaker 2: of the other issues pointed out by the Wall Street
Speaker 2: Journal is some of the La County firefighting equipment was
Speaker 2: on the sidelines that we did. We the county did
Speaker 2: pre position some of their assets fifteen engines, a bunch
Speaker 2: of water carrying trucks, some firefighting equipment that were put
Speaker 2: in different areas where the expectation was that a fire
Speaker 2: could start. There were some crucial firefighting equipment pieces that
Speaker 2: were still awaiting maintenance. About twenty eight percent of the
Speaker 2: La County Fire Department's frontline large pumper engines were out
Speaker 2: of surface as a service, most of those with mechanical issues.
Speaker 2: The specialized rigs could carry five hundred galls loans of
Speaker 2: water plus hoses, and in some cases the county did
Speaker 2: tap some reserve equipment to fully equip their stations, but
Speaker 2: that reduced the number of backup trucks that would otherwise
Speaker 2: have been available now. According to the County Fire Department,
Speaker 2: Heidi Oliva, a spokesperson, said the agency didn't have equipment
Speaker 2: issues that affected its response and they planned to review
Speaker 2: every aspect of preparation. She said they were unable to
Speaker 2: complete an aircraft replacement plan that was recommended in twenty
Speaker 2: nineteen because in part of the pandemic and some aircraft
Speaker 2: production limitations. Half of the ten helicopters owned by La
Speaker 2: County Fire were out of service on the morning of
Speaker 2: January seventh, and again most of those were mechanical issues.
Speaker 4: According to the Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 2: The issues about all of this and what we can
Speaker 2: do about it are part of the review. There's nothing
Speaker 2: no reason to jump ahead of it, but there are
Speaker 2: some very specific questions that need to be answered when
Speaker 2: it comes to the cause of these fires. As we've
Speaker 2: mentioned before, there are power lines in the area where
Speaker 2: the Eton fire started in the hills above Altadena. A
Speaker 2: couple weeks ago we told you about how there is
Speaker 2: surveillance video that appears to show the beginning of the
Speaker 2: fire white flashes kind of off in the distance, and
Speaker 2: a few minutes later the telltale orange and yellow flames
Speaker 2: that existed below the power lines in those hills above Altadena. Well,
Speaker 2: on January nineteenth, a couple weeks ago, technicians for so
Speaker 2: Cal Edison started testing the electrical equipment near the origin
Speaker 2: of that fire, and according to Pedro Pizzaro, President, chief
Speaker 2: executive of Edison International, they engineers noticed some small white
Speaker 2: flashes that were appearing on the high voltage transmission lines
Speaker 2: when the power was being restored. That is a telltale
Speaker 2: sign that the system was functioning abnormally.
Speaker 4: That doesn't mean.
Speaker 2: That's what started the fire, but it's one of several
Speaker 2: irregularities that Edison says that they're looking at to examine
Speaker 2: the electrical system. And again Pizarro, president CEO of Edison,
Speaker 2: said the findings are part of their ongoing investigation, and
Speaker 2: at this point they do not provide any conclusive evidence
Speaker 2: about whether faulty electrical equipment had ignited the fire in
Speaker 2: the first place.
Speaker 4: Because that's what he has to say. He's not gonna.
Speaker 2: He's not going to walk to the podium like he's
Speaker 2: the CEO of a Korean airline and apologize over and
Speaker 2: over again for the tragedy that caused the deaths of
Speaker 2: those people in Altadena. He may eventually, but he's not
Speaker 2: going to do it just yet. We'll get some more
Speaker 2: of this fire stuff, including where Edison says they may
Speaker 2: be even closer to the whole.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's our stuff that started a fire.
Speaker 2: Federal judge is temp imporarily blocked the Trump administration and
Speaker 2: Elon Musk from implementing their fork in the Road employee
Speaker 2: buyout offer for federal employees. A district judge set a
Speaker 2: hearing on Monday to consider blocking the buyout offer even further.
Speaker 2: Judge George O'Toole said, I am joined the defendants from
Speaker 2: taking any action to implement the so called directive pending
Speaker 2: the completion of briefing an oral argument on the issues.
Speaker 2: The lawyers for the Department of Justice vowed to notify
Speaker 2: every federal employee who is subject to the buyout, more
Speaker 2: than two million federal employees. We're facing a deadline tonight
Speaker 2: midnight Eastern time to accept the administration's offer for a buyout.
Speaker 2: There you'd get basically eight months of pay and benefits.
Speaker 2: A federal judge in Massachusetts is going to consider the
Speaker 2: eleventh hour request to block the buyout from moving forward,
Speaker 2: so he set a hearing today to consider a request
Speaker 2: by three federal unions to issue a temporary restraining order
Speaker 2: that would suspend the debt line. The unions that represent
Speaker 2: a combined about eight hundred thousand federal civil servants have
Speaker 2: argued that the deferred resignation offer is unlawful, it's arbitrary,
Speaker 2: and would result in a dangerous one to two punch
Speaker 2: to the federal government. So at least forty thousand federal
Speaker 2: workers have already accepted these deferred resignation offers to leave
Speaker 2: the federal government.
Speaker 4: That's since last week.
Speaker 2: So that's about two percent, they say, of the civilian
Speaker 2: federal workforce that has has at this point accepted those offers.
Speaker 2: But again, a federal judge temporarily blocked the Administration's fork
Speaker 2: in the Road federal employee buyout offer.
Speaker 4: The reason they're calling it fork in the road.
Speaker 2: Apparently that was the subject line on the email that
Speaker 2: went out to everybody. We were talking about the new
Speaker 2: information from Edison regarding what started a couple of the
Speaker 2: fires that began on Jane Nuary seventh, and the work
Speaker 2: in discovering what happened which started the Eaton fire in
Speaker 2: the hills above Altadena. They do say that there appears
Speaker 2: to be some abnormal functions on the power lines that
Speaker 2: run in those hills above Altadena where the fire started.
Speaker 2: But the CEO and Chief execu sorry, CEO and president
Speaker 2: of Edison International, the parent company Socalaedison, has said that's
Speaker 2: not enough. This is an ongoing investigation. This isn't conclusive
Speaker 2: evidence that they started the fire. That being said, they
Speaker 2: are a little closer to accepting responsibility for the Hughes fire.
Speaker 2: That's the Hurst fire. I apologize the Hurst fire that
Speaker 2: started in the Silmar area and contained about eight days later.
Speaker 2: That one really didn't damage much of anything. This was
Speaker 2: out in the hills, thankfully, and never really got into
Speaker 2: the neighborhoods there in Silmar. But this update from so
Speaker 2: Cal Edison was part of the information that was submitted
Speaker 2: to California Public Utilities Commission. The utility is required to
Speaker 2: provide regular updates to the Commission, and what they said
Speaker 2: in their statement today is SCE believes its equipment may
Speaker 2: be associated with the ignition of the Hearst fire. Cause
Speaker 2: of the fire still under investigation, and that SEE continues
Speaker 2: to cooperate with authorities. The La City Fire Department is
Speaker 2: also investigating. They reported that the fire started north of
Speaker 2: Saddle Ridge Road, and yes, there are transmission towers in
Speaker 2: that area, so they may be closer to accepting responsibility
Speaker 2: for starting that Hearst fire in Silmar, but they got
Speaker 2: a ways to go before they accept responsibility for the
Speaker 2: eat and fire, the deadly and incredibly destructive eat and fire.
Speaker 2: After all of this, and in the wake of the
Speaker 2: destruction and the damage and the death from these fires,
Speaker 2: there will be rebuilding. There will be to use the
Speaker 2: corny term or reburnt of these neighborhoods, these communities.
Speaker 4: To a degree.
Speaker 2: We don't know what it's going to look like three
Speaker 2: years from now, but we have seen other places in
Speaker 2: the past, the Tubs fire, for example, up in the
Speaker 2: Santa Rosa area devastated neighborhoods obviously didn't have as much
Speaker 2: death associated with it, and the number of homes that
Speaker 2: were destroyed, just the sheer number of homes was far,
Speaker 2: far fewer than we saw on these January seventh fires.
Speaker 2: But there is a roadmap there. There is a way
Speaker 2: to rebuild these neighborhoods, maybe making them more fire safe.
Speaker 2: You heard lausd talking about making the schools that they'll
Speaker 2: rebuild more disaster proof. Maya Bratkas, for example, was watching
Speaker 2: this fire back on January seventh, and on her family's TV,
Speaker 2: she saw the synagogue in Pasadena where she went to
Speaker 2: Hebrew school where she celebrated her about Mitzvah at thirteen,
Speaker 2: and the thing was on fire and she didn't know
Speaker 2: what's going to happen up in the hills what she
Speaker 2: referred to as the natural splendor of Eaton Canyon. But
Speaker 2: she was terrified for her family. They live around Altadena
Speaker 2: and Sierra Madre. They weren't sure if they were okay.
Speaker 2: She'd been struggling to make sense of all of this
Speaker 2: and said, for her family, we didn't lose our homes,
Speaker 2: so I'm not going through that grief. I know that
Speaker 2: so many people did, but she said she felt herself
Speaker 2: kind of fallen into a pretty dark place and she
Speaker 2: wanted to be able to contribute. And the way she
Speaker 2: did that was she created drawings for her friends about
Speaker 2: what their homes used to look like, the homes that
Speaker 2: they had lost. She is an actor, self taught artist.
Speaker 2: She tufts rugs and crafts jewelry. She said she'd never trod.
Speaker 2: She never trod. She never tried drawing houses before this,
Speaker 2: but in her work at cal Arts up in the
Speaker 2: Santa Clarita area, she probably had to take some kind
Speaker 2: of art class.
Speaker 4: It's the name. She pushed past her impulse for perfection.
Speaker 2: She pulled up an illustrating app on her iPad and
Speaker 2: started trying to sketch these houses anyway. She said, you
Speaker 2: got lost in the rhythm of that creation of this art,
Speaker 2: guiding her pen into the curve of the entryway, arches,
Speaker 2: the blankets, the ukuleles that hang on the wall, the
Speaker 2: records that rest on the table.
Speaker 4: And she said it wasn't perfect. Some of it was
Speaker 4: pretty wobbly, she said.
Speaker 2: She started adding details to the drawings, she started color
Speaker 2: blocking them, and she said, I felt like I had
Speaker 2: a purpose finding the little bits of light that I
Speaker 2: could that she could put out there. And when she
Speaker 2: finished the drawing, for example, for her friends, she wanted
Speaker 2: to do more. So she goes to Reddit she shares
Speaker 2: some of the images of the pictures that she's made
Speaker 2: so far, these drawings, and offered to draw the homes
Speaker 2: of those who had lost their places, and she was
Speaker 2: going to do it free of charge. And if you
Speaker 2: wanted drawings of homes that hadn't been affected by fire,
Speaker 2: you could do it. You could buy them from her,
Speaker 2: and she would donate anything she had made from that
Speaker 2: to help her friends in Altaden. And she's been making
Speaker 2: the drawings digitally, she's printing them soon she's going to
Speaker 2: distribute them to people. And her website for the project
Speaker 2: is now linked to a list of go Fundmese pages
Speaker 2: for people who are affected by the fire, and said
Speaker 2: donations to her project will go toward all of the
Speaker 2: project's costs, including the possibility of putting together a book
Speaker 2: on all of this. This is one example of the
Speaker 2: things that people will find a way to help that rebirth,
Speaker 2: rebuilding that exists, and more power to people like Maya
Speaker 2: who will be doing this when it comes to the fires,
Speaker 2: By the way, there will be incredible amounts of government
Speaker 2: money that goes into the rebuilding. And one of the
Speaker 2: things that happened yesterday is Gavin Newsom had to meet
Speaker 2: with President Trump in DC. Gaven Newsom spent some time
Speaker 2: with Donald Trump today in what is referred to as
Speaker 2: a weird relationship. And he'll explain that he was on
Speaker 2: CNN last night for an interview he kind of described
Speaker 2: what his relationship is with with President Trump. There is
Speaker 2: Steve Lopez and The Times actually has a column today
Speaker 2: about trees and as a result of the fires that
Speaker 2: we have seen, if there are questions that need to
Speaker 2: be asked about what kind of trees exist in LA
Speaker 2: in California in general when it comes to wildfires, Gaven
Speaker 2: Newsom is already ordering the state to speed up some
Speaker 2: of the rule making when it comes to wildfire safety
Speaker 2: around homes in fire prone areas. And those rules would
Speaker 2: actually ban most plants and combustible materials like mulch and
Speaker 2: wood fencing that are close to your home. They would
Speaker 2: require you to clear an area within five feet of
Speaker 2: your home of five feet of your walls. That they
Speaker 2: call it zone zero. An ember resistant zone. There could
Speaker 2: be no flammable materials the exception of some mature trees,
Speaker 2: and it would apply in those areas where the risk
Speaker 2: of fire is rated as very high. You can find
Speaker 2: the state's fire risk designations in different maps in different
Speaker 2: places to see where you would be. The concept was
Speaker 2: developed by researchers who found that homes are vulnerable to
Speaker 2: flying embers that land close to the structure. They then
Speaker 2: ignite the vegetation or wood mulch, or the fencing or
Speaker 2: some other materials there. And the state legislature has mandated
Speaker 2: the creation of these requirements, these zone zero requirements, which
Speaker 2: were supposed to go into effect a couple of years ago,
Speaker 2: the Border Forestry Protection has delayed. A spokesperson says wildfires
Speaker 2: here at La means that the board is still in
Speaker 2: the pre rule making phase of development for zone zero,
Speaker 2: but at least one draft of it had the zone
Speaker 2: zero requirements applying to new homes first and then later
Speaker 2: to existing homes. It's not clear if they're still going
Speaker 2: to do that, so we know that that's going on
Speaker 2: the state level. Steve Lopez's column in the La Times
Speaker 2: talks about the potential for getting rid of trees. Nobody
Speaker 2: wants to get rid of trees in general, but there
Speaker 2: are some trees that do better than others when it
Speaker 2: comes to wildfires. As an example, those native grasses and
Speaker 2: bushes that grow the California chaparral the coastal sage scrub
Speaker 2: tend to be less flammable than non native grasses, according
Speaker 2: to a research scientist at the Conservation Biology Institute also
Speaker 2: happens to be a fire ecology expert and basically explains
Speaker 2: that when you clear the native stuff out and then
Speaker 2: let non native grasses and trees and bushes grow, those
Speaker 2: non native plants tend to be more fire prone. If
Speaker 2: you have a healthy, well watered live oak tree California
Speaker 2: live oak tree on your property, or a sycamore tree
Speaker 2: on your property, those can actually protect your home in
Speaker 2: instances like fires. They contain a lot of moisture, They
Speaker 2: can be more fire resistant than the house itself. They
Speaker 2: can actually intercept flying before they get into the building.
Speaker 2: A lot of the homes that we saw destroyed in
Speaker 2: both the Palisades and the Eaten fires were destroyed because
Speaker 2: of the embers that we saw specifically blowing from palm trees.
Speaker 2: Steve actually points out in his column, you know, getting
Speaker 2: rid of a palm tree in LA would be like
Speaker 2: getting rid of the Dodgers or surfing or food trucks.
Speaker 2: But maybe based on the tiki torch like images that
Speaker 2: we saw of these palm trees and they're burning fronds,
Speaker 2: throwing embers into the air in ways that we had
Speaker 2: never seen before, despite all the wildfires that we've seen
Speaker 2: in this area, is this now a time to get
Speaker 2: rid of some of those palm trees, because, by the way,
Speaker 2: you go to Costa Rica and you see similar palm trees,
Speaker 2: I mean, the same kind of palm tree, but it's
Speaker 2: in a much more humid, moist environment. Those trees would
Speaker 2: not act the same as the dried out remnants of
Speaker 2: palm trees that we have here in southern California. Swamp
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