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You know what that means. 24 00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:29.200 Time to go to the phones. Let's do it. I 25 00:01:29.280 --> 00:01:32.719 want to talk to Mike. Hey Mike, welcome home. 26 00:01:32.840 --> 00:01:37.400 Hey Dan, thanks for taking my call. So I have 27 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:41.120 a contractor that's been installing a roof for I don't 28 00:01:41.120 --> 00:01:47.120 know about a month now. They came in replaced the roof. Well, 29 00:01:47.719 --> 00:01:51.280 my contract was new roof, new facia, and I needed 30 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:56.760 to trim some raftertails because the previous owner took a 31 00:01:56.840 --> 00:01:58.719 saws all and just cut everything off because of some 32 00:01:58.760 --> 00:02:03.239 other dry rod at the time. They came in put 33 00:02:03.239 --> 00:02:07.319 the new roof on. Then from there they came back 34 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:12.280 three days later to do the facia and the gutters. 35 00:02:13.400 --> 00:02:16.479 The new facia was two inch, old facia was one 36 00:02:17.560 --> 00:02:22.120 and so all the facia is extending out past the 37 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:25.680 asphalt shingles. Also, they had to rip the entire drip 38 00:02:25.800 --> 00:02:30.719 edge off to even start that process. So my question 39 00:02:31.159 --> 00:02:33.319 really is is what do I need to look for 40 00:02:35.800 --> 00:02:40.879 when they do all this work? Can they even repair 41 00:02:40.960 --> 00:02:44.560 this to an integrity after ripping off the entire perimeter 42 00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:48.120 of the drip ridge and distrupting every single shingle. 43 00:02:48.280 --> 00:02:52.319 Yeah yeah, well, you know, at the risk of being 44 00:02:52.400 --> 00:02:54.280 just blunt. What you need to look for is a 45 00:02:54.319 --> 00:02:55.919 new contractor. 46 00:02:56.120 --> 00:02:56.800 Yeah well yeah. 47 00:02:56.919 --> 00:02:59.879 Then I actually gave them an out to even bay 48 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:02.639 completely out and they said, oh, I'm not contract already. 49 00:03:03.039 --> 00:03:05.080 Yeah no, this is this is what I'm talking about. 50 00:03:05.159 --> 00:03:08.280 That that that is completely as my dad would like 51 00:03:08.360 --> 00:03:14.120 to say, bass ackwards. So here's the thing. The facia 52 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:18.080 uh and I don't care what size the facia is, right, 53 00:03:18.159 --> 00:03:20.319 you know, get one inch fatia, replace it with a 54 00:03:20.319 --> 00:03:22.400 two by facia which is an inch and a half. 55 00:03:22.479 --> 00:03:26.159 That's great, fine, no problem, right. Raftertails have to be 56 00:03:26.400 --> 00:03:29.599 uh you know repaired along the eves. All of that 57 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:34.280 eve starter board sometimes starter board, by the way, starterboard 58 00:03:34.280 --> 00:03:37.240 everybody is is the is like the tongue and groove 59 00:03:37.319 --> 00:03:40.159 stuff that you see when you look up underneath your eves. 60 00:03:40.199 --> 00:03:43.039 You see nice boards there, not the bottom of plywood, 61 00:03:43.039 --> 00:03:45.919 which is the rest of the roofing material or OSB 62 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:50.240 you know, chipboard. So the point is this, though, when 63 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:52.919 they did the tear off, when they tore off the 64 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:56.639 old roof, now is the time to do all of 65 00:03:56.680 --> 00:03:58.879 that that's when you do all of it, you tear. 66 00:03:58.680 --> 00:04:02.400 Off the to do Yeah, this is standard. 67 00:04:02.479 --> 00:04:04.240 I don't know what their deal is that this is 68 00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:08.039 standard roofing practice. I mean, it's just like roofing one 69 00:04:08.120 --> 00:04:10.520 oh one. We're going to tear off the old roof, 70 00:04:11.159 --> 00:04:14.319 get down to the sheathing. In some situations, if it's 71 00:04:14.319 --> 00:04:17.439 an older home, there's you know, there's one by six 72 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:21.040 slats up there, uh and not sheathing. So the point 73 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:23.720 is we're going to make sure that our that are 74 00:04:23.720 --> 00:04:27.879 sheathed membrane, you know, our layer of the roof, the 75 00:04:27.959 --> 00:04:30.920 ply would, the OSB, whatever the case may be. We're 76 00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:33.160 going to make sure that that's all intact. And all 77 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:36.360 of that is going to extend down with starter board 78 00:04:36.680 --> 00:04:39.800 uh from the root wall line out to the edge 79 00:04:39.800 --> 00:04:43.360 of the facia. The new facia goes on with the 80 00:04:43.439 --> 00:04:48.839 repaired rafter tails. All of that happens before we put 81 00:04:48.879 --> 00:04:53.399 down you know, roofing felt or roofing membrane and UH 82 00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:58.040 and the shingles because we want the the the drip edge, 83 00:04:58.160 --> 00:05:03.439 the metal flashing at the bottom of the roofline needs 84 00:05:03.480 --> 00:05:08.480 to be hanging over the facierboard. It doesn't, it's running 85 00:05:08.480 --> 00:05:12.040 over the facia and that flashing is tied in to 86 00:05:12.639 --> 00:05:15.439 the roofing membrane and the shingles. In fact, the shingles 87 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:20.279 themselves should be hanging over depending on what situation you've got. 88 00:05:20.399 --> 00:05:24.160 Let's say you've got asphalt composite shingles. Asphalt composite shingles 89 00:05:24.160 --> 00:05:27.759 should be hanging over the drip edge by at least 90 00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:31.000 a half an inch to an inch, okay, hanging over 91 00:05:31.040 --> 00:05:33.639 the drip edge which is hanging over the facio. So 92 00:05:34.399 --> 00:05:40.839 something has gone wrong there, Mike. And and my concern 93 00:05:41.079 --> 00:05:45.480 is that if they do this and they say, oh, yeah, no, no, 94 00:05:45.519 --> 00:05:48.439 we're going to take care of all that, well, what 95 00:05:48.480 --> 00:05:50.319 do you get You're going to be pulling up shingles. 96 00:05:50.759 --> 00:05:53.879 Have they run the papy have they hyper extended the 97 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:57.120 paper out already on the shingles, are already run out? 98 00:05:57.199 --> 00:06:01.279 Or have they not finished those courses because oh no, they. 99 00:06:01.279 --> 00:06:04.480 Yeah, they yeah, they they came into the entire roof 100 00:06:04.519 --> 00:06:08.879 one hundred percent, came back and actually I kind of 101 00:06:08.920 --> 00:06:10.959 yelled at them before they even came back to do that, 102 00:06:11.040 --> 00:06:13.399 saying you guys needed to do this and this, And 103 00:06:13.439 --> 00:06:16.800 then when they were cutting raftertails, they cut into the 104 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:19.959 sheathing underneath they so that needed to get redone. So 105 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:24.240 I've got about forty seven feet of sheeting that needs 106 00:06:24.279 --> 00:06:28.399 to get replaced now, almost the entire eve edge. And 107 00:06:29.639 --> 00:06:31.879 you know, I just I don't even know how to 108 00:06:31.920 --> 00:06:33.839 even approach with this with them. 109 00:06:34.560 --> 00:06:37.079 Okay, So here's the thing. Here's the one piece of 110 00:06:37.199 --> 00:06:40.519 leverage that you've got, is that there was a permit 111 00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:44.839 pulled for this reroof Okay, if there wasn't. If there wasn't, 112 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:47.800 by the way, you don't owe them any money for 113 00:06:47.879 --> 00:06:52.560 anything at all. Right, that permit, there's a permit pulled 114 00:06:52.560 --> 00:06:56.120 for it. That permit should not have been signed off yet. 115 00:06:57.000 --> 00:07:00.279 But even if it was, you have recourse you need 116 00:07:00.319 --> 00:07:03.639 to reach out if if they don't get their act 117 00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:06.920 together and get this right, you can reach out to 118 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:11.560 the city and say, hey, this is the permit that 119 00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:14.279 got pulled from my house. I'm the homeowner. I didn't 120 00:07:14.279 --> 00:07:17.079 pull the permit directly. The riffer pulled the permit. I 121 00:07:17.079 --> 00:07:19.319 don't know if you guys have done final sign off. 122 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:22.639 But here's my situation, and now I am concerned. I'm 123 00:07:22.720 --> 00:07:26.160 concerned that they're gonna, you know, screw up the whole 124 00:07:26.199 --> 00:07:29.000 base of this. What can you do, and you know, 125 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:32.000 an inspector will be happy. Most inspectors will be happy 126 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:34.519 to come out and take a look at the situation 127 00:07:34.759 --> 00:07:36.920 and you know, red tag it if he needs to. 128 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:42.000 Okay, yeah, I mean they've they've come out. The inspector 129 00:07:42.040 --> 00:07:44.839 came out and actually missed some dry rot. The installers 130 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:48.279 missed some dry rot on the eves and they're trying 131 00:07:48.319 --> 00:07:53.120 to blame each other. And I told the contractor, I'm all, look, regardless, 132 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:55.399 it needs to get fixed. I mean, so I do 133 00:07:55.480 --> 00:07:58.720 have the contract the inspector's name and number already, so 134 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:00.000 that's a bonus on my part. 135 00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:03.360 Yeah, that's that's where you're gonna need to go with this, probably, 136 00:08:03.399 --> 00:08:10.639 Mike plus photograph everything, video, photograph everything, document it documented, documented, 137 00:08:10.720 --> 00:08:14.279 show up close shots and say here's where the roof ends. 138 00:08:14.279 --> 00:08:19.279 And that's gonna be the approach. And the best thing 139 00:08:19.319 --> 00:08:23.199 you could do is leverage the situation so that they 140 00:08:23.199 --> 00:08:25.720 get on the ball and uh and get this done 141 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:30.079 right for you as opposed to you know, I mean, 142 00:08:30.160 --> 00:08:33.360 I'm saying generally speaking, as opposed to throwing them off 143 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:36.360 the job, having somebody come back in. That's gonna cost you, 144 00:08:36.879 --> 00:08:39.799 even if you're holding a good amount of their money. Still, 145 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:43.000 it's gonna cost you more because whoever comes in if 146 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:44.759 I if I was to come in after the fact, 147 00:08:44.759 --> 00:08:47.360 believe me, I'm like, well, I'm gonna need a little 148 00:08:47.360 --> 00:08:51.000 bit of more freedom in the budget here to you know, 149 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:54.000 tie back into what they've already done, you know, because 150 00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:57.960 whoever touched it last, it's theirs now. So if it 151 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:01.960 all possible to get these guys to finish this right, 152 00:09:02.879 --> 00:09:05.519 that's what I would try first. I mean, of course, 153 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:08.039 at the end of the day, sometimes you got to 154 00:09:08.039 --> 00:09:11.360 toss a contractor from your job. I hate that, hate it, 155 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:17.639 hate it, but it's a reality. Sometimes. Hopefully that's not 156 00:09:17.720 --> 00:09:19.759 the situation you're in. The best thing you can do 157 00:09:20.480 --> 00:09:24.159 is document it all, have some serious conversations with them 158 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:26.919 and let them know, hey, happy to get the building 159 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:30.159 department involved again, just to make sure that this goes right. 160 00:09:30.320 --> 00:09:36.279 So let's get this done. Industry standards and practices, those 161 00:09:36.360 --> 00:09:40.399 are the three words. Might write that down. Industry standards 162 00:09:40.480 --> 00:09:44.559 and practices. This is what every contractor has to as 163 00:09:44.559 --> 00:09:48.720 a bare minimum, make sure that their work complies with 164 00:09:49.360 --> 00:09:53.480 industry standards and practices. Craftsmanship is one thing you can 165 00:09:53.519 --> 00:09:57.879 debate craftsmanship all day long. Oh, it could have been this, 166 00:09:58.080 --> 00:09:59.600 or could have been that, or it could have been 167 00:09:59.799 --> 00:10:05.720 nic sir. Okay, your situation comes down to industry standards 168 00:10:05.799 --> 00:10:09.759 and practice, the bare minimum bar to clear, and you've 169 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:12.360 got every bit of leverage to get that done. Right, buddy, 170 00:10:12.399 --> 00:10:14.080 I've got to go. Thank you so much for your 171 00:10:14.159 --> 00:10:16.360 question and for your call. I hope that helps just 172 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:20.679 give you the the right encouragement. Yeah, you're you're You're 173 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:24.360 not wrong about this. That is not a good situation, 174 00:10:24.519 --> 00:10:27.840 all right, y'all. When we come back, more of your 175 00:10:27.879 --> 00:10:30.840 calls your Home with Dean Sharp, the house Whisper. 176 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:35.120 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 177 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:37.320 KFI AM six forty. 178 00:10:38.399 --> 00:10:41.080 We are going to the phones right now before we 179 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:45.519 return to the subject of antique vintage retro items for 180 00:10:45.639 --> 00:10:48.440 decor in your home and have a handle them. But 181 00:10:48.519 --> 00:10:53.080 right now it's time for some calls. Let's talk to Arnold. Hey, Arnold, 182 00:10:53.320 --> 00:10:54.240 welcome home. 183 00:10:57.799 --> 00:11:01.679 And marry Christmas. Hey, So, I live in a vintage house. 184 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:04.879 It's twenty one years old, brand new, built in two 185 00:11:04.960 --> 00:11:07.679 thousand and three. In dog years, It's an antique house. 186 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:12.200 One hundred and forty seven years old to trying to 187 00:11:12.200 --> 00:11:15.559 do the rein style. But hey, quickly we are painting 188 00:11:15.559 --> 00:11:17.759 the house for the first time exterior, do we have 189 00:11:17.840 --> 00:11:21.799 to remove the rain gutters or they just paint over 190 00:11:21.799 --> 00:11:23.279 the rain you know, they just paint the rain gutters, 191 00:11:23.320 --> 00:11:25.399 They just paint whatever they see of the facia. 192 00:11:27.279 --> 00:11:32.120 Well, that depends on a couple of different factors. Actually, 193 00:11:32.919 --> 00:11:35.320 Number one. 194 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:33.919 I. 195 00:11:36.240 --> 00:11:40.679 Generally wouldn't remove the rain gutters if it's the very 196 00:11:40.679 --> 00:11:44.480 first time that you're doing the exterior paint of the house, 197 00:11:44.600 --> 00:11:48.159 maybe next time around it's worth doing it just so 198 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:50.600 you get a little bitter access up to the facier 199 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:52.879 board and the drip edge, just to make sure those 200 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:55.480 things get sealed up properly and get a good coat 201 00:11:55.480 --> 00:11:59.600 of paint on them. But first time out, I don't 202 00:11:59.600 --> 00:12:03.240 know that I would pull the gutters off because that's 203 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:07.440 an additional expense and probably you're okay as far as 204 00:12:07.480 --> 00:12:11.399 moisture protection up underneath there anyway. So that's one factor. 205 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:14.600 The other factor though, is like, how do you negotiate 206 00:12:14.679 --> 00:12:17.080 around it and get to it or do we need 207 00:12:17.120 --> 00:12:19.000 to remove it? Really has to do with number one, 208 00:12:19.039 --> 00:12:22.159 how they're mounted, Are they tied against the facier board, 209 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:24.480 do they have any play where you can get a 210 00:12:24.519 --> 00:12:26.919 little bit of paint up behind them so that there 211 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:30.120 isn't a weird line? How much masking would you have 212 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:33.480 to do? And the other thing too is are the 213 00:12:34.279 --> 00:12:39.240 gutters going to be different color than the facier board itself, 214 00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:43.960 which enters into a design question that ends up affecting 215 00:12:44.480 --> 00:12:48.159 how it is that you go about executing it. And 216 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:53.320 if you've heard me talk about gutters before, and facier 217 00:12:53.320 --> 00:12:57.639 boards on most roofs in southern California, most roofs being 218 00:12:59.320 --> 00:13:02.799 asphalt posit roofs which don't have a lot of thickness 219 00:13:02.799 --> 00:13:05.879 and body to them. I've handed this pearl of wisdom 220 00:13:05.879 --> 00:13:09.039 out many many times before. A lot of people have 221 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:11.399 scratched their head about it, but then come back to 222 00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:13.360 me and said, you know what, Oh my gosh, it 223 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:17.879 made such a difference. I am not the guy who 224 00:13:18.039 --> 00:13:22.799 is very hip on the white facia board going with 225 00:13:22.879 --> 00:13:27.360 the white trim of the house with an asphalt composite roof. 226 00:13:27.759 --> 00:13:31.039 And the reason is that it leaves the roof material 227 00:13:31.159 --> 00:13:35.120 itself feeling thin, thin ish, it doesn't have. It doesn't 228 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:36.960 give the roof a lot of presents. So for me, 229 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:41.320 my clients. They know that my tendency is to say, 230 00:13:41.399 --> 00:13:46.759 unless there's prevailing circumstance. There's never an absolute rule to this, okay, 231 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:51.440 so please no emails, But unless there's a prevailing circumstance, 232 00:13:51.519 --> 00:13:54.440 I like to give roofs a sense of body to them, 233 00:13:54.759 --> 00:13:58.039 and the facia the edge of the roof. It's such 234 00:13:58.080 --> 00:14:01.080 a significant way to do that that I tend to 235 00:14:02.000 --> 00:14:05.440 choose a color for the facia, a dark color that 236 00:14:05.759 --> 00:14:08.879 corresponds with the one of the colors or one of 237 00:14:08.919 --> 00:14:12.919 the shade darker shades in the roofing material itself, so 238 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:16.480 that the facial board really feels like the edge of 239 00:14:16.519 --> 00:14:19.799 the roof. And then gutters. When it comes to gutters, 240 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:24.240 I don't hide gutters. I don't camouflage gutters. I actually 241 00:14:24.399 --> 00:14:26.879 pick them out and if at all possible, I'm like, 242 00:14:26.919 --> 00:14:28.879 you know what, they're made out of? Metal? Here is 243 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:31.519 our theme for metal on the front of the house, 244 00:14:31.559 --> 00:14:35.360 whether it's kind of cast iron, black or charcoal, or 245 00:14:35.360 --> 00:14:39.480 whatever the case may be. Utilizing gutters as the crown 246 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:43.320 molding quote unquote that they are for most homes. I 247 00:14:43.320 --> 00:14:45.080 don't want to hide them away, I don't want to 248 00:14:45.120 --> 00:14:49.320 disguise them. I want to accentuate them as an architectural feature. 249 00:14:49.639 --> 00:14:51.600 So I'm the guy who's going to paint the gutters. 250 00:14:51.679 --> 00:14:56.000 Also probably some metallic color as well, and that of 251 00:14:56.039 --> 00:15:00.200 course leads to the hole. Well, now we've got got 252 00:15:00.279 --> 00:15:03.200 to mask between the gutters and the facia and the 253 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:05.799 facia and you know, and so on. So all of 254 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:08.279 those factors come into play, my friend, when it comes 255 00:15:08.279 --> 00:15:11.000 to figuring out how to paint around the gutters. Of course, 256 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:13.799 from the painting perspective, the painters would love for you 257 00:15:13.879 --> 00:15:17.440 to just pull the gutters off. If you're the painter fascinating, 258 00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:21.240 then then you know, do your best. You could use 259 00:15:21.240 --> 00:15:24.720 painting shields just to get a brush up underneath far 260 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:29.399 enough so that there's no weird line exposed. But those 261 00:15:29.440 --> 00:15:31.000 are the factors involved. Does that make sense? 262 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:33.960 Well, thanks so much. Hey, I'll think it about because 263 00:15:33.960 --> 00:15:36.080 I already heard the painter of just going up there 264 00:15:36.120 --> 00:15:40.480 and single stort to sprain it before they show up. Sprain, 265 00:15:41.279 --> 00:15:43.879 just sprain underneath it with a can of white spray paint. 266 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:45.840 But I like your idea of changing the color of 267 00:15:45.840 --> 00:15:48.360 the gutter, but I don't know. I already got the bid, 268 00:15:48.399 --> 00:15:49.759 so I'm not going to do that. But what about 269 00:15:49.799 --> 00:15:51.399 if I just get a can of white spray paint 270 00:15:51.519 --> 00:15:54.679 just stick it up in there, just maybe some added protection. 271 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:58.120 I have no idea anyways, Well, yeah, I mean, if 272 00:15:58.120 --> 00:16:00.519 you're talking about the wood, I would I'd prefer to 273 00:16:02.679 --> 00:16:06.879 utilize a brush method up there, and you'll actually you 274 00:16:06.960 --> 00:16:09.240 might find it actually is neater than the spray method 275 00:16:09.279 --> 00:16:12.000 because you don't want to get it the fogging of 276 00:16:12.039 --> 00:16:14.240 the spray around and affecting the edge of the roof 277 00:16:14.279 --> 00:16:17.200 tiles or anything like that. But yeah, I mean, you 278 00:16:17.320 --> 00:16:20.559 got this, you're thinking creatively about it, So just kind 279 00:16:20.559 --> 00:16:23.440 of process through what you can do. But again, first 280 00:16:23.440 --> 00:16:27.200 time out on a newer vintage home, a twenty year 281 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:31.559 old home, I'm not sure I'm too worried about redoing 282 00:16:31.639 --> 00:16:35.000 the paint behind the gutter this time out. If there's 283 00:16:35.039 --> 00:16:38.159 any indications that you should, by all means otherwise you 284 00:16:38.200 --> 00:16:40.480 can probably do okay, just going up the face to 285 00:16:40.519 --> 00:16:43.200 the bottom of the gutter and then transitioning to whatever 286 00:16:43.240 --> 00:16:45.279 the gutter is there. You go, all right, my friend, 287 00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:47.559 Thank you for your call, Thanks for the great question. 288 00:16:48.039 --> 00:16:53.000 When we return, we're going to dive back into the 289 00:16:53.200 --> 00:17:01.240 swirling tide pool. No swirling. I was gonna say cesspool. 290 00:17:01.480 --> 00:17:09.039 It's not the whirlpool. That is vintage, antique, retro, and 291 00:17:09.119 --> 00:17:11.759 nostalgic decor. How's that all right? Fine? 292 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:15.960 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on Demand from 293 00:17:16.039 --> 00:17:17.559 KFI AM six forty. 294 00:17:19.480 --> 00:17:26.440 We're talking antiques, vintage, retro, and nostalgic decor today. I 295 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:31.119 want to get back to our tips and insights into 296 00:17:31.200 --> 00:17:36.359 this area now. When I left the conversation previously, I 297 00:17:36.599 --> 00:17:40.079 just kind of described to you that what you do 298 00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:43.000 to an antique or a vintage item really depends on 299 00:17:43.079 --> 00:17:47.599 what you plan to do with it. Okay, You're either 300 00:17:47.640 --> 00:17:49.920 going to do one of three things. Generally, you're going 301 00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:54.000 to preserve it, restore it, or remodel it, depending on 302 00:17:54.079 --> 00:17:58.119 whether you plan to display it, reuse it, or repurpose it. Okay. 303 00:17:58.559 --> 00:18:01.480 And I set those there boundaries up for you, or 304 00:18:01.480 --> 00:18:05.200 at least those those branches of the tree, so that 305 00:18:05.319 --> 00:18:08.279 you can understand you got a lot of flexibility when 306 00:18:08.319 --> 00:18:11.599 it comes to antiquing, a lot of flexibility when it 307 00:18:11.599 --> 00:18:15.279 comes to utilizing vintage things. And you know what I 308 00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:18.960 am all about doing it for your home well, okay, 309 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:22.319 just doing it well so that it incorporates the goal. 310 00:18:22.599 --> 00:18:27.079 The goal is always for me as your designer. The 311 00:18:27.160 --> 00:18:33.119 goal is to match up with you your home, its story, 312 00:18:33.480 --> 00:18:37.079 your story, and communicate that. Now, however you need to 313 00:18:37.160 --> 00:18:43.920 do that utilizing vintage or antique or retro items, then 314 00:18:44.039 --> 00:18:49.359 you know, have at it. Okay. I there are absolutely 315 00:18:50.240 --> 00:18:54.799 antique items out there that by and large everyone would agree, oh, 316 00:18:54.880 --> 00:18:58.519 don't touch that thing, don't. I mean it's it's literally 317 00:18:58.720 --> 00:19:04.839 a museum piece. It should be meticulously restored, not added to, 318 00:19:05.480 --> 00:19:09.880 not altered in any way. It should simply be restored 319 00:19:10.160 --> 00:19:14.839 to the fineness of its original intent and then just 320 00:19:15.039 --> 00:19:20.920 observed and appreciated as a piece of true artwork. Absolutely, 321 00:19:21.119 --> 00:19:24.480 there are those pieces out there, and a lot of them. 322 00:19:24.759 --> 00:19:28.319 But that is not the hard and fast rule for 323 00:19:28.440 --> 00:19:34.119 antiques or vintage pieces at all. That is not the law, okay. 324 00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:37.880 And I disagree with a lot of designers who think 325 00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:41.160 or antique officionados who think, well, if you do anything 326 00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:44.440 other than that to an antique, you're really abusing it 327 00:19:44.599 --> 00:19:47.400 and ruining it. I don't think so at all. I 328 00:19:47.440 --> 00:19:53.000 think that if you can embrace and incorporate something of 329 00:19:53.480 --> 00:19:57.119 a vintage or antique design into your home in a 330 00:19:58.200 --> 00:20:01.400 stellar a beautiful way that keeps it a part of 331 00:20:01.440 --> 00:20:04.400 your story. Then you've done it and you've honored it 332 00:20:04.519 --> 00:20:06.920 along the way. I'll mean, give you an example that 333 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:10.160 I shared, what is last week or a couple of 334 00:20:10.200 --> 00:20:17.039 weeks ago, about the grandfather clock that Tina inherited from 335 00:20:17.400 --> 00:20:21.839 her grandparents, right who she loved to pieces, and this, 336 00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:26.920 of all things, was such an iconic thing in their home. Now, 337 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:31.559 it's not a fancy grandfather clock. It's not going to be. 338 00:20:31.599 --> 00:20:34.880 I mean, when this clock is five hundred years old, 339 00:20:35.400 --> 00:20:38.319 it'll probably sell for like thirty dollars more than what 340 00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:41.839 they paid for originally. No, that's not true. It'll be 341 00:20:42.000 --> 00:20:44.799 more pricier than But the point is, this is not 342 00:20:44.960 --> 00:20:50.240 one of those all deeply crafted, German made grand you know, 343 00:20:50.319 --> 00:20:54.279 it's not a swisk. It's it's just a lovely grandfather 344 00:20:54.319 --> 00:20:57.559 clock that they bought at a furniture store in the 345 00:20:58.240 --> 00:21:01.200 early nineteen eighties, late seven, these early eighties. And it 346 00:21:01.279 --> 00:21:05.680 has a kind of a classic style to it. And 347 00:21:05.720 --> 00:21:08.720 it's a real clock, right, It's got weights and chimes 348 00:21:08.759 --> 00:21:12.079 and all of that. But you know, it's not going 349 00:21:12.119 --> 00:21:16.640 down into any museum. But here's the thing. It means 350 00:21:16.680 --> 00:21:20.720 the world to her, and Tina means the world to me. 351 00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:23.799 And so as the result of that, this clock has 352 00:21:23.839 --> 00:21:26.759 to find a place in our home. It's kind of 353 00:21:26.799 --> 00:21:30.960 that honey oak, you know, thing that doesn't really match 354 00:21:31.039 --> 00:21:34.039 up with anything else we got going on. So eventually 355 00:21:34.079 --> 00:21:36.640 Tina said, you know what, I want to incorporate it 356 00:21:36.640 --> 00:21:39.359 into our home better. I'm going to paint it the 357 00:21:39.440 --> 00:21:42.920 color of the room, the dining room wainscotting that's just 358 00:21:43.000 --> 00:21:46.400 adjacent to it, sitting across the hallway from it. So 359 00:21:46.640 --> 00:21:51.440 it's now this beautiful shade of blue. The whole thing. 360 00:21:51.480 --> 00:21:53.720 All the oak is gone, I mean not gone, but 361 00:21:53.720 --> 00:21:57.759 it's painted now and as opposed to stained, and it 362 00:21:58.079 --> 00:22:02.079 so belongs in our home now, right, it really does. 363 00:22:02.200 --> 00:22:05.000 It so belongs there. And so now if you were 364 00:22:05.440 --> 00:22:08.400 if you if you live by the law of antiquing, 365 00:22:08.880 --> 00:22:12.599 then some people would say, oh, you've just abused it. 366 00:22:13.240 --> 00:22:16.680 You've abused that clock because you haven't left it exactly 367 00:22:17.119 --> 00:22:20.640 how it was when it was made. But our point 368 00:22:20.759 --> 00:22:24.519 is if we were to have left it exactly how 369 00:22:24.559 --> 00:22:27.839 it was, it wouldn't have a place in our home. 370 00:22:28.119 --> 00:22:31.160 And I think sometimes repurposing it as much as you know, 371 00:22:31.240 --> 00:22:37.359 you you do alter the finish or the wood, you're 372 00:22:37.440 --> 00:22:40.680 giving it extended life. Because we've done that with the 373 00:22:40.759 --> 00:22:44.240 several vanity pieces as well. We found some beautiful old 374 00:22:44.319 --> 00:22:48.960 cabinets that we turned into sink vanities. And you know, 375 00:22:49.000 --> 00:22:51.720 some people were offended that we painted it. Some people 376 00:22:51.880 --> 00:22:54.640 thought it was amazing, but you know, it is. It's attention. 377 00:22:54.880 --> 00:22:57.279 But it also gave it new life that it wouldn't 378 00:22:57.279 --> 00:22:58.279 have necessarily had. 379 00:22:58.400 --> 00:23:02.119 It gave it a new useful life our home. Yeah, repurpose. 380 00:23:02.119 --> 00:23:05.000 And by the way, just because something is antique, I said, 381 00:23:05.000 --> 00:23:07.759 you know, the price goes up, Sure it does, but 382 00:23:07.920 --> 00:23:10.279 just because something is antique does not mean that it's 383 00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:13.920 necessarily rare. Right. And so we've got and we're going 384 00:23:14.000 --> 00:23:16.400 to do a video at least one, maybe two videos 385 00:23:16.400 --> 00:23:19.240 on this for social media, a little VIP content before 386 00:23:19.279 --> 00:23:22.759 we're done with the show today. But on maybe let's 387 00:23:22.799 --> 00:23:25.079 just pick out maybe the the vanity that we did 388 00:23:25.119 --> 00:23:27.960 in the guest house. Right, So it is an east 389 00:23:28.039 --> 00:23:34.839 Lake Victorian east Lake period vanity okay, uh, that we 390 00:23:35.039 --> 00:23:38.880 found at an antique store I think down in Ventura. 391 00:23:39.480 --> 00:23:42.880 If I'm not mistaken, east Lake style, great style for 392 00:23:43.000 --> 00:23:45.680 us in court, you know, this is truly an antique, 393 00:23:45.680 --> 00:23:49.359 but not rare. It's not like, oh, that's a one 394 00:23:49.400 --> 00:23:52.359 of a kind thing, and no, no, no, So we 395 00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:55.079 felt the freedom to just treat it like a really 396 00:23:55.160 --> 00:23:58.720 good design element. And uh, and I think we've honored 397 00:23:58.720 --> 00:24:01.759 it by giving it this whole new life. You guys 398 00:24:01.759 --> 00:24:03.480 will have to be the judge. I'll tell you what. 399 00:24:03.559 --> 00:24:05.400 Maybe we'll break away right now and do that quick 400 00:24:05.480 --> 00:24:07.839 video and you can be the judge whether we've honored 401 00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:10.759