WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.840 --> 00:00:03.680 Well, it's my great pleasure to welcome back to our 2 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.440 podcast or another appearance getting ready for another important fights, 3 00:00:06.480 --> 00:00:09.240 none other than the former two times Junior Wealth the 4 00:00:09.279 --> 00:00:11.640 Weight world champion, Regis Prograt. Regis, thank you so much 5 00:00:11.640 --> 00:00:14.119 for joining me. We're here to talk about you have 6 00:00:14.119 --> 00:00:17.679 a very significant fight coming up. It's against Jack patterall 7 00:00:18.079 --> 00:00:20.839 in at the New co Op Live in Manchester, England 8 00:00:20.839 --> 00:00:24.320 and the headline the Mattroom Boxing card on October twenty sixth. 9 00:00:24.359 --> 00:00:26.559 On his own welcome, I know you're in training camp 10 00:00:26.559 --> 00:00:29.399 getting ready for the fight. First of all, just tell 11 00:00:29.440 --> 00:00:32.200 me just your your general thoughts about you know, preparing 12 00:00:32.240 --> 00:00:34.439 yet again for another you know, highly significant fight in 13 00:00:34.479 --> 00:00:35.640 the junior wealthweight division. 14 00:00:37.079 --> 00:00:39.240 I mean, I'm excited about it, you know, I'm definitely 15 00:00:39.280 --> 00:00:41.679 excited something I'm really it's something I can kind of 16 00:00:41.719 --> 00:00:45.000 look forward to. It's something I'm excited about. It's something 17 00:00:45.039 --> 00:00:47.159 that it's a fight that I've been wanting for a 18 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:48.880 little while. And you know, it happened. 19 00:00:48.880 --> 00:00:51.640 I think me and Jack we're supposed to fight maybe like. 20 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:54.840 Two or three years ago, and maybe like two years 21 00:00:54.880 --> 00:00:57.719 ago and it just kind of just never happened. And 22 00:00:57.880 --> 00:01:00.240 you know, now is you know, I guess now's a 23 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:02.000 good time and I think this is the biggest fight 24 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:04.640 you can make at one four. And besides, you know 25 00:01:04.640 --> 00:01:07.280 people with the belts, so I think it's you know, 26 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:08.640 it's a great fight. 27 00:01:08.920 --> 00:01:11.879 It's a good fight, and I'm just excited about it. 28 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:14.359 Well, you mentioned about how maybe there was a conversation 29 00:01:14.439 --> 00:01:16.519 about maybe two guys would have hooked up in a 30 00:01:16.560 --> 00:01:18.640 fight a couple of years ago. You were supposed to 31 00:01:18.680 --> 00:01:21.120 fight each other on August twenty fourth, just a few 32 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:23.439 months ago. He had to postpone the fight because he 33 00:01:23.519 --> 00:01:26.159 suffered a rib injury. And it was only like less 34 00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:27.879 than a month or so, or just about a month 35 00:01:27.959 --> 00:01:29.439 or so before the fight. So both of you guys 36 00:01:29.480 --> 00:01:32.120 are already in training camp, You're already doing your sparring, 37 00:01:32.120 --> 00:01:34.079 You're deep in you're spending money on the camp and 38 00:01:34.079 --> 00:01:36.400 the whole thing, and everybody's preparing for the event. And 39 00:01:36.439 --> 00:01:39.599 then unfortunately, you know it's not your first rodeo, it 40 00:01:39.640 --> 00:01:41.959 got postponed. Can you just sort of think back then, 41 00:01:42.079 --> 00:01:43.879 just give me your emotions and your thoughts about when 42 00:01:43.920 --> 00:01:46.280 you heard, oh damn, you know this fight was postponed 43 00:01:47.400 --> 00:01:49.480 and just you know, just having to kind of get 44 00:01:49.480 --> 00:01:51.439 back in the mentality of starting camp over again at 45 00:01:51.480 --> 00:01:52.560 some point, right. 46 00:01:52.599 --> 00:01:54.359 I mean I was pissed. I was really pissed. I 47 00:01:54.400 --> 00:01:56.840 mean the main thing was because because I went to Vegas. 48 00:01:56.920 --> 00:01:58.480 I went out there, I was in Vegas train, I 49 00:01:58.519 --> 00:02:00.760 was running, I was doing everything else to do sparring. 50 00:02:01.159 --> 00:02:04.840 I mean, I had a real, real tight just just 51 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:07.079 my my schedule was just super tight. It was just 52 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:11.240 literally like boxing all day long. And and then you know, 53 00:02:11.319 --> 00:02:13.439 coming out of pocket. You know, nobody, you know, Matt 54 00:02:13.439 --> 00:02:15.080 Trim never gave me no type of camp money and 55 00:02:15.159 --> 00:02:15.599 nothing like that. 56 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:16.800 I came out of my own pocket. 57 00:02:17.039 --> 00:02:18.639 I went out to Vegas and I was training, and 58 00:02:18.639 --> 00:02:21.439 then they told me the fight was postponed. So it 59 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:23.680 really you know, it bothered me a lot, but it 60 00:02:23.759 --> 00:02:24.439 bothered me more. 61 00:02:25.759 --> 00:02:27.120 It bothered me about. 62 00:02:26.840 --> 00:02:28.879 You know that I was training, because you know, it's 63 00:02:29.199 --> 00:02:30.199 you know, when I was out. 64 00:02:30.080 --> 00:02:31.719 There training, it was good. It was good sparring, it 65 00:02:31.759 --> 00:02:33.280 was good work, it was it was just a whole 66 00:02:33.360 --> 00:02:34.759 it was a good vibe all around. 67 00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:37.280 But the thing that bothered me is just like, you know, 68 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:39.360 I did all this and I paid all this out 69 00:02:39.400 --> 00:02:42.280 of pocket, and you know, it's like basically it's for nothing. 70 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:45.439 So that the thing, let me ask you that that 71 00:02:45.439 --> 00:02:47.199 then you mentioned about the financial hit, and I mean 72 00:02:47.199 --> 00:02:49.280 what people with fans, I don't think sometimes realize is 73 00:02:49.319 --> 00:02:52.039 that a fighters, they don't get paid till the fight 74 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:55.439 happens number one and number two. While there are certain fights, 75 00:02:55.599 --> 00:02:59.960 the biggest fights, uh, fighters get advances or get consideration 76 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:02.319 and for training expenses you just mentioned it, did I 77 00:03:02.400 --> 00:03:04.400 just if you don't mind how much how much out 78 00:03:04.439 --> 00:03:06.879 of pocket you come to us to do that bunch 79 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:09.439 of weeks of camp where you're not getting paid and 80 00:03:09.479 --> 00:03:11.400 now you got to start up the camp again, right. 81 00:03:11.439 --> 00:03:12.960 I was up there for about a month. I mean, 82 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:16.159 it wasn't that bad. Maybe like ten or fifteen thousand. 83 00:03:16.240 --> 00:03:18.080 I came out of pocket, you know, it's I mean, 84 00:03:18.080 --> 00:03:20.360 it's it's it's not it's not that much, but at 85 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:22.439 the same time, it's still something. It's still something that 86 00:03:22.479 --> 00:03:24.439 I have to come out of pocket with. Nobody gave 87 00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:26.560 me no type of money. It wasn't you know, it 88 00:03:26.680 --> 00:03:28.400 was all me coming out. You know, I had to 89 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:30.199 I had to fly my trainers out there. It's like 90 00:03:30.319 --> 00:03:32.759 one of my trainers out there. I had to share 91 00:03:32.800 --> 00:03:35.000 my car out there. I had to pay for lodging 92 00:03:35.199 --> 00:03:38.039 for my trainer. Luckily I have honestly live out there, 93 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:38.599 so I did that. 94 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:39.400 You still have to pay. 95 00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:40.680 I had to pay my shelf, I had to pay 96 00:03:40.719 --> 00:03:42.599 up for all my food, all that type of stuff. 97 00:03:42.879 --> 00:03:45.000 So you know that was like the bad thing about it. 98 00:03:45.039 --> 00:03:49.000 But partners also you pay, yes, so you know. 99 00:03:48.960 --> 00:03:50.639 You have to do all that type of stuff. And 100 00:03:51.439 --> 00:03:55.120 but listen, it it happens. You know, I understand it happens, 101 00:03:55.120 --> 00:03:57.479 and it is what it is, and I wasn't. I'm 102 00:03:57.560 --> 00:04:01.240 glad that you know, they they postponed. It wasn't just 103 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:03.159 canceled all the way and it was postponed. 104 00:04:03.599 --> 00:04:05.439 So when you hear that he has a rib injury, 105 00:04:06.240 --> 00:04:08.400 and you know that they didn't. They didn't say it's 106 00:04:08.439 --> 00:04:11.439 an elbow or a hand, it's a rib injury. Do 107 00:04:11.479 --> 00:04:12.960 you make that a point in the back of your 108 00:04:12.960 --> 00:04:14.360 mind to say, you know what, I'm gonna make sure 109 00:04:14.400 --> 00:04:17.360 I target his ribcage when it comes time for the fight. 110 00:04:17.959 --> 00:04:19.519 Oh of course, I mean I don't know if it's 111 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:21.439 true or not, but yeah, of course. I mean, look, 112 00:04:21.480 --> 00:04:23.759 you have an injury, of course I'm gonna go target bit. 113 00:04:23.839 --> 00:04:25.920 You know, no matter what, that's what I'm gonna target. 114 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:27.600 So, you know, and I don't know if it's really 115 00:04:27.600 --> 00:04:28.680 I don't know if it's stay that's what. 116 00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:30.279 I heard, you know, but you know, we can hear 117 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:31.079 all kinds of stuff. 118 00:04:31.079 --> 00:04:34.800 So yeah, that's that'll that'll be, you know, one of 119 00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:36.000 the places I'll talget. 120 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:39.399 Now, you're essentially gonna be fighting in his hometown he 121 00:04:39.439 --> 00:04:42.120 lives about I looked up on Google Maps. It's about 122 00:04:42.120 --> 00:04:45.800 forty five fifty minutes between his hometown to Chorley and 123 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:49.879 the arena where you're fighting in Manchester. Obviously it's a 124 00:04:49.879 --> 00:04:52.399 hometown fight for him. Did you have any qualms about 125 00:04:52.439 --> 00:04:54.839 taking your show on the road to go there. You're 126 00:04:54.879 --> 00:04:57.480 on the short end of a very close, excellent fight 127 00:04:57.480 --> 00:04:59.439 against Josh Taylor a few years ago in your two 128 00:04:59.439 --> 00:05:02.480 thousand and nine teen unification also in the UK, which 129 00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:05.079 I guess hasn't been the kindest to read this program. 130 00:05:05.160 --> 00:05:07.560 What's your mentality about going into the lines done again. 131 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:10.439 I'm not really tripping about it. 132 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:12.560 You know, It's like something I don't really think about, 133 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:13.920 but I'm not really tripping about it. 134 00:05:13.959 --> 00:05:15.360 At the same time, I want to be a you know, 135 00:05:15.399 --> 00:05:16.680 I want to be a world champion again. 136 00:05:16.560 --> 00:05:18.759 And whatever it takes to get to that world championship 137 00:05:18.800 --> 00:05:20.480 status again, I'll just do it. 138 00:05:20.519 --> 00:05:23.079 I just I know that Jack is not on my level. 139 00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:25.079 I know I'm a way better fighter, So it really 140 00:05:25.120 --> 00:05:27.079 doesn't it doesn't matter whether. 141 00:05:26.920 --> 00:05:27.920 Fighter's gonna take place. 142 00:05:27.959 --> 00:05:30.160 I just I know that I'm way better, you know, 143 00:05:30.759 --> 00:05:32.480 Like I said I said earlier. 144 00:05:32.519 --> 00:05:33.680 You know, it's a different interviews. 145 00:05:33.759 --> 00:05:35.879 Like, man, you can check my resume, check what I did, 146 00:05:35.959 --> 00:05:39.040 you know, I mean, I had two bad performances. But listen, 147 00:05:39.240 --> 00:05:41.079 I just know that Jack is just he's not on 148 00:05:41.079 --> 00:05:43.360 my levels, know where close to being on my level. 149 00:05:43.399 --> 00:05:44.199 So it doesn't matter. 150 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:46.759 Yeah, they have the you know, the hometown stuff going on. 151 00:05:46.839 --> 00:05:49.600 But for me, listen, I think that makes me hungry. 152 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:51.399 And I know that people kind of write me up. 153 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:53.399 But it's a good thing for me, you know, because 154 00:05:53.399 --> 00:05:55.079 I'm a shock everybody. 155 00:05:55.160 --> 00:05:58.319 All Right. So he beat Josh Taylor by a very 156 00:05:58.319 --> 00:06:00.439 clear decision in his last fight, took place in May. 157 00:06:01.079 --> 00:06:03.319 A lot most people think he won the first fight, 158 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:05.720 so he should have two wins against and that was 159 00:06:05.759 --> 00:06:08.120 the split decision that he suffered. The loss and the 160 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:11.759 undisputed title fight back in twenty twenty two. Uh, you 161 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:15.000 lost a really close, outstanding fight to Josh Taylor in 162 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:17.360 a two thing, like I said in the twenty nineteen unification. 163 00:06:17.959 --> 00:06:19.759 So I always wonder like how fighters sort of view 164 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:22.399 this does the fact that he beat Taylor most people 165 00:06:22.439 --> 00:06:25.120 think twice you lost to him, all be it very close. 166 00:06:25.439 --> 00:06:28.199 Now you're fighting him, does that mean anything? The fact 167 00:06:28.199 --> 00:06:29.000 that he beat that. 168 00:06:28.920 --> 00:06:32.519 Guy and he didn't absolutely no. Styles makes fights. You know, 169 00:06:32.560 --> 00:06:35.360 styles made fights. You know, Dan, You've been in boxing 170 00:06:35.399 --> 00:06:38.480 for a long time. That doesn't That absolutely means absolutely 171 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:39.079 nothing at all. 172 00:06:39.160 --> 00:06:41.800 Styles make fights. That doesn't matter. He might just have 173 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:44.360 Taylor's number, that's all, you know, that's all. But he's 174 00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:45.560 he's not gonna have my number. 175 00:06:45.759 --> 00:06:47.920 So now it's just it's a styles make fights type 176 00:06:47.920 --> 00:06:49.480 of thing, and that's just how that's how I go. 177 00:06:49.959 --> 00:06:52.920 So did you ever watch the fight? Well, I guess 178 00:06:52.959 --> 00:06:54.800 the last fight that he had in May, But you 179 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:57.120 did you watch that fight? And did you think did 180 00:06:57.160 --> 00:06:58.680 you watch the first fight that was the one that 181 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:00.600 caused so much controversy, And if so for me, I. 182 00:07:00.560 --> 00:07:03.639 Think I thought that first fight, the first fight, I 183 00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:06.279 thought he won that fight. The second fight it was closer. 184 00:07:06.399 --> 00:07:07.879 You know, I'm not gonna say he won or lost. 185 00:07:07.920 --> 00:07:10.360 He obviously won a fight, but it was a it 186 00:07:10.399 --> 00:07:11.800 was a it was a I felt like it was 187 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:14.560 a closer fight for the second fight. But it's just 188 00:07:14.600 --> 00:07:16.439 like you kind of you kind of old. He was like, 189 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:18.079 you kind of have to give it to him, But 190 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:19.319 I mean, it was it was. 191 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:19.839 A close fight. 192 00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:21.759 I think Taylor first the action were I know Bob 193 00:07:21.879 --> 00:07:22.360 was pissed. 194 00:07:22.560 --> 00:07:24.480 You know, he got the ring. He said that, you know, 195 00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:25.920 they Taylor. 196 00:07:25.639 --> 00:07:27.240 Really want to fight, and it was it was a 197 00:07:27.360 --> 00:07:29.879 it was a way closer fight than a first fight. Now, 198 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:32.399 but I do think that he deserved that win because 199 00:07:32.399 --> 00:07:33.279 he won the first one. 200 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:36.480 Now, I know, you got the fight obviously that you 201 00:07:36.519 --> 00:07:38.560 got to deal with Caterroll and in front of you 202 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:40.920 and we're talking a little bit about his performance against Taylor. 203 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:43.160 You had your fight against Taylor, and down the road, 204 00:07:43.199 --> 00:07:45.560 whatever happens in this fight, win, lose, or draw, do 205 00:07:45.639 --> 00:07:46.800 you have it in your back of your mind that 206 00:07:46.879 --> 00:07:48.600 someday you'd like to do it again with Josh Taylor. 207 00:07:48.759 --> 00:07:50.120 Was such a great fight the first time, It was 208 00:07:50.120 --> 00:07:54.000 so competitive, big stakes unification fight. It seems to me 209 00:07:54.040 --> 00:07:55.959 that at some point for both of you guys, it 210 00:07:56.000 --> 00:07:56.639 might make sense. 211 00:07:57.560 --> 00:08:00.639 Man, it depends, you know, it depends on what happens, 212 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:02.959 what goes on. Like for me, my my goal is 213 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:03.879 to be a champion again. 214 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:04.319 That's it. 215 00:08:04.399 --> 00:08:07.439 So if Josh Taylor happens to become a champion, of 216 00:08:07.519 --> 00:08:08.319 course I welcome that. 217 00:08:08.399 --> 00:08:09.079 I'm definitely all. 218 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:12.000 If they tell me, after this, listen, you fight Joss 219 00:08:12.040 --> 00:08:13.800 Taill and then you have then you fight for the belt, 220 00:08:13.839 --> 00:08:16.079 then yeah, it's cool, we'll fight Joss Tailor again. But 221 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:18.480 for me, it's it's not even a name, it's not 222 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:20.279 no more names. It's just like I want I want 223 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:21.920 to be a three time champion. That's something one of 224 00:08:21.920 --> 00:08:23.279 my I was dal behind that lead who was a 225 00:08:23.279 --> 00:08:25.240 three time champion, and that's something I want to do. 226 00:08:25.279 --> 00:08:27.879 I want to become a three time champion. And after 227 00:08:27.920 --> 00:08:29.920 that then I'll figure out what's going on. So whatever 228 00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:32.960 leads me and that in that direction, that's the direction. 229 00:08:32.639 --> 00:08:33.039 I go in. 230 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:35.440 So a lot of times when we have these fights 231 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:37.840 that come up, a lot of discussion turns toward if 232 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:40.039 one guy is a right handed fighter, one guy's at 233 00:08:40.039 --> 00:08:43.399 south paw. It's not usually the most comfortable or normal 234 00:08:43.399 --> 00:08:45.240 thing let's say for the righty to be facing the lefty. 235 00:08:45.399 --> 00:08:48.039 In this particular case, you and Jack a bol South 236 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:50.600 boys both left handed fighters, and most of your fights 237 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:52.519 are against right handed fighters. So I always wonder when 238 00:08:52.519 --> 00:08:54.639 I'm talking to the lefty, how is it to go 239 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:57.840 in with another lefty? Does it? Does it bothers me? 240 00:08:58.639 --> 00:08:58.919 Not me? 241 00:08:59.039 --> 00:09:00.639 If you look at most of the fight they've been 242 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:02.559 most of my fight has been a lot of my 243 00:09:02.639 --> 00:09:05.320 fights been left handed fighters, you know, you studding, You 244 00:09:05.320 --> 00:09:07.840 know if you look at people just at the time 245 00:09:07.879 --> 00:09:11.080 of Hey, you look at like Onango ivor Red Cash, 246 00:09:11.320 --> 00:09:16.440 Jose's a paida town of McKenna, we both shim Josh here. 247 00:09:16.679 --> 00:09:18.240 You know I named five people just now and that's 248 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:18.759 all left. 249 00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:19.519 Handed fightles, you know. 250 00:09:19.559 --> 00:09:23.720 So nahs, Yeah, I mean no, I don't feel untucked 251 00:09:23.720 --> 00:09:24.120 with at all. 252 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:26.600 All right, Well, you mentioned before by the way that 253 00:09:26.679 --> 00:09:28.879 you said, you know you had a couple of tough fights. 254 00:09:29.279 --> 00:09:32.039 Uh in the most recent past. Uh you had the 255 00:09:32.080 --> 00:09:34.159 split decision where you won the fight at home in 256 00:09:34.200 --> 00:09:37.240 New Orleans against den Alito's area. But even you know 257 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:39.919 that was in defense of your title back in June 258 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:42.679 of twenty twenty three. But even you admitted that was 259 00:09:42.720 --> 00:09:44.720 not a good performance. I mean you know that everybody 260 00:09:44.720 --> 00:09:47.080 the watch it knows that you did get the victory. 261 00:09:47.519 --> 00:09:47.720 Uh. 262 00:09:47.759 --> 00:09:50.320 And then the next fight, Uh, that was the loss 263 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:52.440 to Devin Haney where you lost the belt in December. 264 00:09:53.679 --> 00:09:55.840 You know you got shut out, you got knocked down. 265 00:09:56.480 --> 00:09:56.840 Uh. 266 00:09:56.960 --> 00:09:59.480 How I mean those are those are a lot of guys. 267 00:09:59.480 --> 00:10:03.080 It's harder from those types of performances in a row. 268 00:10:02.639 --> 00:10:04.639 But how big of it is not only for you 269 00:10:04.759 --> 00:10:06.519 to go in there and do your thing against Catterroll, 270 00:10:06.799 --> 00:10:09.080 but to do it in at least somewhat impressive manager 271 00:10:09.039 --> 00:10:10.720 to show, Hey, listen, you know what. I went through 272 00:10:10.720 --> 00:10:12.200 my rough pass, but I'm still one of the top 273 00:10:12.200 --> 00:10:14.799 fighters at one hundred and forty pounds, right. 274 00:10:14.840 --> 00:10:16.759 That's and that's exactly what I'm coming proof. You know, 275 00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:18.440 I want to I want to just like erase it, 276 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:20.120 and I know I can. I know I am, you know, 277 00:10:20.200 --> 00:10:23.080 like I'm back in the gym and I'm just being 278 00:10:23.120 --> 00:10:24.720 me again. That's the thing, you know, I spoiled in 279 00:10:24.759 --> 00:10:26.360 the gym to day, and I mean my my train 280 00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:28.320 was like, man, that's the old regis. You're looking like 281 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:31.039 the old regions. And that's how I want to come 282 00:10:31.080 --> 00:10:32.399 and I felt like, yeah, I had. I had a 283 00:10:32.399 --> 00:10:36.000 lot of stuff going on, you know, management issues and 284 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:37.600 all kinds of stuff like that. Just it was just 285 00:10:37.639 --> 00:10:39.759 too much going on on my plate that I had 286 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:41.919 to think about. Now it's just like it's all I 287 00:10:41.919 --> 00:10:42.639 think about. 288 00:10:42.399 --> 00:10:43.080 Is back to boxing. 289 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:46.360 I actually change some things up in my team as 290 00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:48.720 far as like management wise, and they're taking care of that. 291 00:10:48.879 --> 00:10:50.919 But at that time, you know, I don't know if 292 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:51.720 we spoke back in the. 293 00:10:51.759 --> 00:10:53.600 Day a few like a year ago or something like that, 294 00:10:53.639 --> 00:10:56.120 but I was, I was I was self managing myself. 295 00:10:56.159 --> 00:10:59.440 I was doing everything myself, and you know, at that time, 296 00:10:59.480 --> 00:11:02.519 I remember interviews with people and like you you manage yourself, 297 00:11:02.559 --> 00:11:04.919 and I thought that, yeah, I could do this and 298 00:11:05.080 --> 00:11:05.960 I didn't need a manager. 299 00:11:06.080 --> 00:11:08.320 But I feel like, yeah, now I know that I 300 00:11:08.320 --> 00:11:09.279 do need to measure. 301 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:11.440 That is an important job because they take everything off 302 00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:13.840 they take everything off your plate. 303 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:15.639 So now all I do is focus on fighting. 304 00:11:15.639 --> 00:11:18.559 I don't have to focus on nothing else and now 305 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:21.039 just focus on boxing. So yeah, I think for me, 306 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:23.000 it was like a mental thing. Physically, I can still 307 00:11:23.039 --> 00:11:25.639 do all the stuff. I still that's the thing. Boxing 308 00:11:25.720 --> 00:11:28.000 is more mental than physically and physically I still do 309 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:31.360 all the stuff. I mean, it's a pointing time where 310 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:33.919 you have to be honest with yourself and can. 311 00:11:33.759 --> 00:11:35.240 You still do this? Can you still do it? And 312 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:36.440 in a gym, I mean. 313 00:11:36.360 --> 00:11:39.639 I'm looking I know, I'm looking real good. I mean 314 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:41.600 I can't leak my spartan stuff like that, but I'm 315 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:45.799 looking super good. I'm like, I'm real fast, I'm strong, 316 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:48.759 I can still hear. Everything is still there. So it's 317 00:11:48.799 --> 00:11:50.600 all so I know it was all a mental thing. 318 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:52.559 And my coaches they'll be honest with all my people 319 00:11:52.559 --> 00:11:54.440 around me, they'll be honest with there, Like god, damn, 320 00:11:54.519 --> 00:11:57.039 like you looking, man, You're looking so good, Like I've 321 00:11:57.039 --> 00:11:59.519 been looking like real real sweet in the gym right now. 322 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:02.519 So I know all that stuff was a mental tank 323 00:12:02.720 --> 00:12:03.600 about a mental thing. 324 00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:05.720 So like now it's just like, you know, getting back 325 00:12:05.759 --> 00:12:06.679 to be that's the main thing. 326 00:12:06.759 --> 00:12:08.840 Get back to being Regions program. That's what I need 327 00:12:08.879 --> 00:12:09.120 to do. 328 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:13.080 So when you lose the way you did against Devin Haney, 329 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:16.759 I mean you'd have to wonder. I understand a guy loses. 330 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:18.799 You got stuff going on outside during like you mentioned, 331 00:12:18.799 --> 00:12:20.720 maybe some of it's mental and you were busy trying 332 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:22.639 to be a manager, random fighter and all that together. 333 00:12:23.440 --> 00:12:26.399 But when you don't win around it would cause one 334 00:12:26.440 --> 00:12:29.720 to maybe questions say, hey, you know, you know, I 335 00:12:29.720 --> 00:12:32.000 need to assess that performance. You talk about being you know, 336 00:12:32.799 --> 00:12:35.039 you know, in your top level in the gym, getting 337 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:37.559 ready for this fight, But what the heck happened against Haney. 338 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:38.240 It's one thing. 339 00:12:38.279 --> 00:12:39.879 It's one thing to lose to fight Regis, you know, 340 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:43.559 but to frankly not compete to kind of a different mix. 341 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:47.120 Would I know I wasn't me. I just wasn't meet 342 00:12:47.120 --> 00:12:47.440 at night. 343 00:12:47.480 --> 00:12:49.679 What happens, I don't know, and I can't. I still 344 00:12:49.720 --> 00:12:51.639 can't tell people what happened. I just I feel like 345 00:12:51.720 --> 00:12:54.840 I definitely felt like I wasn't meet. I'm not I 346 00:12:54.919 --> 00:12:57.080 wasn't regional program. I didn't do it, and I didn't 347 00:12:57.120 --> 00:12:59.480 do the things even in campus stuff like that lead 348 00:12:59.519 --> 00:13:01.480 them to the fight. I let a lot of hype 349 00:13:01.480 --> 00:13:03.639 get to my head, and I just the main thing, 350 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:06.000 you know, long story short, I just wasn't me. I 351 00:13:06.039 --> 00:13:08.080 can I can go on about what happened in camp 352 00:13:08.120 --> 00:13:09.960 and what happened out of camp, but you know we. 353 00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:10.720 Don't have time for that. 354 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:13.840 Have you ever gone back and watched that fight. No, 355 00:13:14.240 --> 00:13:16.240 okay watching, Yeah. 356 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:18.440 Didn't watch it because I know that that. 357 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:20.000 Person that was fighting it wasn't me. 358 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:22.320 Even in a ring that night, I didn't feel like 359 00:13:22.399 --> 00:13:23.840 I just felt like I wasn't me at all. 360 00:13:23.960 --> 00:13:25.720 So it's like, why would I watch something that's not me? 361 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:28.200 You know, it doesn't It really doesn't make sense at all. 362 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:31.159 So I asked that Because I'll go back a little ways. 363 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:33.440 I remember having an interview many years ago with the 364 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:36.679 great heavyweight cham Vladimir Klitchko, who, in the worst night 365 00:13:36.679 --> 00:13:40.000 of his life, got absolutely uh embarrassed by Layman Brewster 366 00:13:40.080 --> 00:13:42.720 in a vacant heavyweight championship fight, and he was telling 367 00:13:42.759 --> 00:13:45.440 me he's watching all these films getting ready for fights. 368 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:47.240 I asked him what he's watching. I thought, he's watching like, 369 00:13:47.240 --> 00:13:49.679 you know, Joe Lewis fights, or Muhammad Ali fights or 370 00:13:49.720 --> 00:13:51.960 this night. He's like, no, I'm watching myself get beat 371 00:13:51.960 --> 00:13:55.000 by Leman Brewster. Because you never wanted to forget what happened. 372 00:13:55.279 --> 00:13:57.080 That's why I asked that about going back to watch 373 00:13:57.559 --> 00:14:00.600 a loss. Yeah, did you ever think about that aspect 374 00:14:00.679 --> 00:14:02.559 of it to maybe like I'm thinking about. 375 00:14:02.360 --> 00:14:04.039 It now, Hey, I might go and watch it. 376 00:14:04.720 --> 00:14:07.159 Wait the way you say it, So now I might 377 00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:08.519 take a page of that book. 378 00:14:08.559 --> 00:14:09.879 I might, I might go through that. I might go 379 00:14:09.960 --> 00:14:10.240 watch it. 380 00:14:10.360 --> 00:14:12.120 Yeah, he said, Listen, I don't ever want to forget 381 00:14:12.120 --> 00:14:14.000 how I tell the Night. So I'm gonna keep watching that, 382 00:14:14.080 --> 00:14:16.120 and you know it'll motivate me when I go into 383 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:18.080 my next fight. So I don't perform like that again. 384 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:21.879 And frankly, you never did perform again like that. All right, well, 385 00:14:21.879 --> 00:14:23.159 so I just want to wrap up with this. Then. 386 00:14:23.159 --> 00:14:25.240 You know, I'm not big into like boxing cliches. I'm 387 00:14:25.240 --> 00:14:27.919 sure you've heard them all, but coming off of that 388 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:30.039 type of defeat, uh, and now being back in a 389 00:14:30.080 --> 00:14:32.039 big spot, like you mentioned, this is probably on paper 390 00:14:32.080 --> 00:14:33.320 one of the best fights you can make in the 391 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:35.639 weight class that's not in one of the championship fights. 392 00:14:36.960 --> 00:14:39.799 And so for you to go into this fight off 393 00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:42.200 of that, like again, not to be into the cliches, 394 00:14:42.240 --> 00:14:43.879 but how much do you view it as a quote 395 00:14:43.919 --> 00:14:46.679 unquote must win in terms of, you know, advancing your 396 00:14:46.679 --> 00:14:48.279 career to get back to that level where you want 397 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:49.000 to be a champigain. 398 00:14:50.559 --> 00:14:51.759 For me, I just know I'm gonna win. 399 00:14:51.840 --> 00:14:53.919 It's not even like I don't put the pressure on 400 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:55.919 myself to be like, oh it's a must win and 401 00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:58.200