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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Blue Insider Day. Gabriel with you

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<v Speaker 1>on April Fool's Day. That's right, April first, and we

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<v Speaker 1>should still be talking about Kentucky basketball. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>of course that the season ended prematurely in the minds

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<v Speaker 1>of many, in the minds of most. We'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that tonight. We'll also hear from the players here from

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Stoops and Cameron Mills is going to join us

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<v Speaker 1>at the bottom of the hour. He will be here

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<v Speaker 1>in the garage to talk of course about high school

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<v Speaker 1>basketball and UK basketball in the sweet sixteen. But I

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<v Speaker 1>keep reminding myself that preseason, me, media, people, fans, we

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<v Speaker 1>all tried to figure out what this team would do,

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<v Speaker 1>where it would go, how it would finish, and what

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<v Speaker 1>might be as satisfying ending to this year given the

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<v Speaker 1>misery in their quotes of the last two or three seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think we all kind of agreed that if

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<v Speaker 1>this team could break even in the SEC and win

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<v Speaker 1>an NCAA tournament game. Now, once we saw how good

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<v Speaker 1>this team could be, Hey, they beat Duke, right, they

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<v Speaker 1>beat Florida, right, final four teams. Now the ceiling rises,

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<v Speaker 1>the floor rises, everything grows, Expectations and hopes and all that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've kind of adjusted myself to where when this

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<v Speaker 1>team was at its best, I thought this team could

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<v Speaker 1>get to the second weekend. Then the injuries started to come.

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<v Speaker 1>So now if we backtrack, and if I had told

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<v Speaker 1>you when you were trying to figure out your expectations

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<v Speaker 1>and your hopes for this team, realistic hopes. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know that's a fluid term in the Big Blue Nation,

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<v Speaker 1>really in all the sports, But if I told you

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<v Speaker 1>going in, Okay, you've got this roster capable of winning

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<v Speaker 1>any game it's in. But for significant stretches of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>you will be without your three of your top four

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<v Speaker 1>perimeter players. You'll be without Lamont Butler, You'll be without

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson Robinson, You'll be without Kerr Kriesa. Okay, Butler will

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<v Speaker 1>come back, but he won't be one hundred percent. The

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<v Speaker 1>other two will not. So that means there are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be times when Otago Olway has to play the point,

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<v Speaker 1>or the freshman Colin Chandler comes in. And if I

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<v Speaker 1>had told you that first of the year, you would have

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<v Speaker 1>what you know, what about Travis Perry, Well, he got hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Chandler of course started really showing what he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be toward the end of the year. But you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know that because he was coming off a two

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<v Speaker 1>year mission. So if I told you all that, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, you're seven foot center, he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>have to play a little point forward, you would have thought, Man,

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<v Speaker 1>if this team can be five hundred, that would be outstanding.

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<v Speaker 1>And what we saw was outstanding, and the way they

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<v Speaker 1>got there, to me, I still can't get over it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was, I know, I'm always pessing a miss

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<v Speaker 1>going into the nca tournament Sometimes, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the teams you can't help but think they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna kick butt. But going into this tournament, I liked

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<v Speaker 1>their draw up until Tennessee. I picked wins and everybody

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<v Speaker 1>did up until Tennessee. And we had that debate for

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<v Speaker 1>several days about a team that's beating a team twice

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<v Speaker 1>beating them a third time, and there were stats that said,

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<v Speaker 1>more often than not by a significant margin, the team

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<v Speaker 1>that won the first two will win the next the

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<v Speaker 1>third game, that's fine, but I think in the NCAA

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<v Speaker 1>tournament a lot of that goes out the window. And

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<v Speaker 1>I do think that Tennessee was probably a better team

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<v Speaker 1>this year than Kentucky. It just was. But Kentucky was

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<v Speaker 1>better on those first two nights. Tennessee helped by jacking

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<v Speaker 1>up forty five threes. They lost their minds trying to

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<v Speaker 1>beat Kentucky at its own game. I still can't believe

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<v Speaker 1>that Rick Barnes let that happen. And again, if you

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<v Speaker 1>listen to me, thank you. You know I'm not one

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<v Speaker 1>who puts everything on a coach and worships a coach,

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<v Speaker 1>and oh, you know, the coach can do anything, knows all, sees,

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<v Speaker 1>all does all no. But in a game like that,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to think that Barnes could have and should

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<v Speaker 1>have pulled his team together, said, fellas, we're not a

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<v Speaker 1>great three point shooting team. Knock it off, just like

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<v Speaker 1>John Caliperry should have done that against West Virginia back

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty ten against that one to three to one, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>stick to the game plan. That's not the game plan,

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<v Speaker 1>stop jacking up threes. Otherwise he would have won a

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<v Speaker 1>national title with that team. But the next time they

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<v Speaker 1>played Tennessee, and again Kentucky was never a full strength.

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<v Speaker 1>The balls didn't help him like that, and Kentucky still

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<v Speaker 1>won but this day Tennessee was better. Tennessee just beat

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky on the boards physically. That had so much to

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<v Speaker 1>do with why Kentucky lost that game, and that's been

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<v Speaker 1>a problem all year rebounding. So maybe the kid from

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<v Speaker 1>Julane who comes through the portal will be a big

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<v Speaker 1>help there. Malachi Moreno should be a big help there.

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<v Speaker 1>Got to see him in the Sweet sixteen. I'll give

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<v Speaker 1>you two thumbs up on him. And I'm a little

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<v Speaker 1>prejudiced or a little biased because he does go to

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<v Speaker 1>Great Crossing where my daughter has interacted with him for

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years. Now. She's a special needs teacher

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<v Speaker 1>and Moreno and his buddies, his teammates and other kids

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<v Speaker 1>come to her class and help her with the kids,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, pushing wheelchairs and things like that. So and

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<v Speaker 1>they do it voluntarily, they like doing it. So anyhow,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be fun to see how they come

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<v Speaker 1>together next year. But now he've got a sneak preview

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<v Speaker 1>of what kind of offense they run, and now I

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<v Speaker 1>think Pope more than likely. And now I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what was his mindset when it came to when and

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<v Speaker 1>how he taught defense this year, but they were a

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<v Speaker 1>late it, weren't they But once they did, they locked

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<v Speaker 1>it down and they were so much better. It was phenomenal,

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<v Speaker 1>how much better they were defensively. The key is crafting

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<v Speaker 1>another roster the way he did it. And he's got

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<v Speaker 1>more time now, clearly, but the way he did it

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<v Speaker 1>this time, pulling this team together, meeting the needs of

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<v Speaker 1>what he had to have to run his stuff, his offense,

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<v Speaker 1>his defense, but also the personality, the meshing that went on.

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<v Speaker 1>He got such great guys, He got the right guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Could have used one more, maybe two, but given how

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<v Speaker 1>little time he had to do it. And so after

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<v Speaker 1>the game, you may have heard little bits and pieces

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<v Speaker 1>of this, but I'm gonna share a couple of comments

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<v Speaker 1>with you. The players were asked first question, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was a student from Indiana University asked about

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<v Speaker 1>being a part of Kentucky basketball with Mark Poemm. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>start with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say it's incredible, man. We were you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>came in nobody, not knowing each other, you know, really

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<v Speaker 2>no coaching staff, and you know we built something that

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<v Speaker 2>was you know, really great, really inspiring you know for

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<v Speaker 2>other people, you know, just even to play at Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>as a dream come true for myself and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of us guys up here. So we're really grateful for

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<v Speaker 2>him to bring us here and able to experience something

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, we we may have not experienced before

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<v Speaker 2>before this year. And I really just really grateful, honestly.

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<v Speaker 3>Kobe, Yeah, I say, I think the University of Kentucky

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<v Speaker 3>is in great hands. Like I mean, just to see

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<v Speaker 3>what he's done this year, his first year, and not

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<v Speaker 3>only that, but he's a life changer, you know, to

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<v Speaker 3>like to just our group. I feel like he's helped

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<v Speaker 3>has grown so much off the court and on the court,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's going to be really special to see what

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<v Speaker 3>he continues to do for this team and for his

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<v Speaker 3>own university.

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<v Speaker 4>Andrew, Yeah, I just definitely agree with what those guys said.

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<v Speaker 4>I think a lot of us never, you know, even

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<v Speaker 4>just one year ago, even thought that we'd be at Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 4>So for Coach Pope to believe in everybody who is

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<v Speaker 4>on the team, you know, believing myself is really special

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<v Speaker 4>for for all of us. And it's pretty you know,

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<v Speaker 4>super proud of the team and and everybody. This season,

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<v Speaker 4>we were able to make history at the mecca of

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<v Speaker 4>college basketball. And so for us to uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>be able to come in here and coach Pope's first

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<v Speaker 4>year and be able to do that has been you know,

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<v Speaker 4>nothing short of amazing, and I'm super excited to see

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<v Speaker 4>for the next you know, ten fifteen years, what kind

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<v Speaker 4>of dim and run coach Coach Pope can start back here.

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<v Speaker 1>So those are the players on the podium after the

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<v Speaker 1>loss to Tennessee. And there was the next question I

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<v Speaker 1>believe came from Darryl Bird. Darryl always asked really interesting questions.

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<v Speaker 1>But Daryl, of course has been here from day one

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<v Speaker 1>with his team, and he took them back to one

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<v Speaker 1>first got here and then asked them, with the season

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<v Speaker 1>behind them, to reflect on what it was like to

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<v Speaker 1>be a part of UK basketball from day one.

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<v Speaker 4>And start with you, Yeah, it's certainly very difficult. Don't

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<v Speaker 4>wanna untie my shoes, don't want to take off this jersey,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, definitely shout out a BBN and and all

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<v Speaker 4>of the fans. It's like nowhere I've ever experienced, and

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<v Speaker 4>really have just had the most fun playing basketball this season,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, I really appreciate them welcoming all of

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<v Speaker 4>us in with with open arms and really caring about

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<v Speaker 4>all of us more than than just a basketball player

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<v Speaker 4>and being a fan. They really you know, you're welcome

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<v Speaker 4>into the Kentucky family and it's a family for a reason.

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<v Speaker 4>So definitely is is an amazing experience that you know

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<v Speaker 4>right now, But as we continue to get older, just

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<v Speaker 4>look back and be more and more proud as time

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<v Speaker 4>goes on.

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<v Speaker 3>Kobe, Yeah, I don't know who's in charge of the

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<v Speaker 3>jerseys and all that, but they're gonna go through some

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<v Speaker 3>trouble to get mine. It's still like, it's still surreal

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<v Speaker 3>every time, you know, I walk in the locker room

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm able to put this jersey on, just just

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<v Speaker 3>from everything I've dealt with, everything I've been through, where

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<v Speaker 3>I come from. Just to be able to put it on,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just super special. And then you know, just to

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<v Speaker 3>have my brothers and you know, we were all strangers

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<v Speaker 3>when we first got here and we didn't have a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of time to really to bond and get to

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<v Speaker 3>know each other, and you know, make this possible what

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<v Speaker 3>we just did. So like we're all a big family

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<v Speaker 3>now and BBN has made an amazing they made this

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<v Speaker 3>dream like a reality for real for me, Like just

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<v Speaker 3>ever since I stepped into campus, everybody's greeting me with

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<v Speaker 3>open arms, and they've been amazing to me and my family,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's been everything I've wanted to be in more so,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just happy with my experience here for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is is just a special place where it

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<v Speaker 2>was special people around.

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<v Speaker 1>It, you know, the whole program.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the fans, they're out there, you know every day,

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<v Speaker 2>even when I first got here just you know, just

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<v Speaker 2>greeting me with love and greeting everybody with love. It

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<v Speaker 2>was the first time we people were coming up to

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<v Speaker 2>our dorm and getting autographs and stuff like that. So

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<v Speaker 2>it was kind of surreal when we got here. The

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the fan love, but you know, just the

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<v Speaker 2>bond that we were able to create this year was

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<v Speaker 2>just amazing. You know, in one year, usually don't get

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<v Speaker 2>teams that are able to you know, really get connected

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<v Speaker 2>like that.

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<v Speaker 5>Usually it's like two or three years.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, we we kind of bonded really quick.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm really just.

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<v Speaker 5>To be around these people.

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<v Speaker 1>And as you probably heard on the Mark Pope Show,

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<v Speaker 1>about the season. And they didn't break up until six am.

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<v Speaker 1>and she said, I just don't want this to be over.

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<v Speaker 1>It was such a special experience and it had to

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<v Speaker 1>want this to be over same way for the UK fans.

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<v Speaker 1>But imagine being one of the ballplayers and knowing this

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<v Speaker 1>as a team, This entire team. Every team goes through that,

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<v Speaker 1>but imagine what this team went through. Hi, my name

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<v Speaker 1>is nice to Meetia. Where are you. Oh you're the

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<v Speaker 1>guy from Drexel. Oh, okay, you're the guy from Fairleigh Dickinson.

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<v Speaker 1>see what we can do. And they did up Next

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<v Speaker 1>with it from Mark Stoops, his team scrimmaged over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>will ensue, but seriously, we will talk to Cameron about

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<v Speaker 1>this year. Cameron, of course, part of our pregame coverage

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<v Speaker 1>of Kentucky basketball on the UK network, and he and I,

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<v Speaker 1>along with Jody Dummling and Greg Stottomeyer worked the boys

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<v Speaker 1>Sweet sixteen this past week, so Cameron got a good

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<v Speaker 1>look at so many of the great teams in the

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<v Speaker 1>and Greg worked the championship game featuring future Wildcat. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I don't know if he's signed yet, but

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky Wildcat. Malachi Moreno, whose high school career ended on

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<v Speaker 1>and it's coming up fast. So that comes up here,

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<v Speaker 1>coming up fast as well. At the bottom of the hour,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Stoops and his team worked on Saturday. We get

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to watch them practice tomorrow, so I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>reporting on what I saw, you know, I mean, what

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<v Speaker 1>can I tell, But I'm going to watch the quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 1>You better know that. However, Stoops after the scrimmage on

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday wasn't specific about names that he wasn't going to

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<v Speaker 1>be or what happened within the scrimmage, but somebody said

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<v Speaker 1>what group stood out? And he said the D line,

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<v Speaker 6>You know, if I gave a shout out to any

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<v Speaker 6>would probably be defensive line. I think you know that

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<v Speaker 6>flying around and this time of year, you know, traditionally

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<v Speaker 6>defense is a little bit ahead anyway. But they're playing

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<v Speaker 6>really hard. It's a very united group and playing very tough,

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<v Speaker 6>and so I appreciate their effort for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Naturally, somebody asked about quarterbacks. Again, no names, but stoops

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I'm not going to talk about any individual.

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<v Speaker 6>I think they're you know, during the spring, They're each

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<v Speaker 6>going to have their moments, you know. And what I

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<v Speaker 6>like is I feel like we got better the last

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<v Speaker 6>you know, several practices early on coming off spring break

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<v Speaker 6>and having that early practice is going to be a

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<v Speaker 6>little rough at times. But I feel like these last

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<v Speaker 6>two practices in particular, were making some jumps.

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<v Speaker 1>I will tell you is during spring break, I bumped

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<v Speaker 1>into a Kentucky assistant and I just said, a's it going.

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<v Speaker 1>We were chit chatting. At at one point he mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>to me that he liked and this was not the

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<v Speaker 1>O line. I can't stress that enough, but he said

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<v Speaker 1>he liked what he saw in the old lineman the

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<v Speaker 1>guys who have transferred in. They look good, they're athletic,

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<v Speaker 1>They've got a chance to really be good. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly optimistic. Now it's got to happen. They got to

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<v Speaker 1>got and put in the work, and Stoop said, that's

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<v Speaker 1>happening right now.

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<v Speaker 6>I love what I'm seeing as far as the question

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<v Speaker 6>that you're asked from the leadership, from the effort, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>from the continuity, we have big bodies. You know, they're

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<v Speaker 6>working very hard, and I love the group. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>we're definitely you know, making progress, and as long as

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<v Speaker 6>they keep that same attitude and work ethic, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>will be significantly improved. And you know that's the goal

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<v Speaker 6>across the board. But again, I just like where they're at,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I like I like the group. I like

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<v Speaker 6>coach them. They take coaching, and they're working really hard.

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<v Speaker 1>We still don't know yet what is going to happen

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<v Speaker 1>with the open practice for the fans or won't be

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<v Speaker 1>a spring game per se, but there will be something

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<v Speaker 1>on the last day of spring practice. So obviously we'll

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<v Speaker 1>let you know as soon as we know one other

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<v Speaker 1>note about UK baseball. You may have seen this on

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<v Speaker 1>social media, but Tyler Bell is the SEC Freshman of

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<v Speaker 1>the Week. This is one of the weeks where the

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<v Speaker 1>Wildcats play on Thursday. Generally in the past, now generally

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<v Speaker 1>it was in the past it was the last week

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky's turn this week and the Thursday game will be

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<v Speaker 1>on the SEC Network. Friday Saturday will be on SEC

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<v Speaker 1>Plus with Yours Truly and Doug Flynn. The Wildcats play

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<v Speaker 1>Ole Miss, coming in a team that a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years ago won the national championship and has been struggling

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<v Speaker 1>ever since. But you got to expect anything and everything

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<v Speaker 1>when an SEC team comes to town. And think about that.

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<v Speaker 1>And it just fell off the edge of the earth

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<v Speaker 1>and Kentucky, which had been struggling a bit, went into

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<v Speaker 1>He had multiple hits all three games, a total of

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<v Speaker 1>eight for the series. He had won base hit in

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<v Speaker 1>the midweek game, so nine all week long, in seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>at bats in College Station, at the double in each game.

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<v Speaker 1>Homered Saturday during a four to four performance, drove in

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<v Speaker 1>seven and it was unbelievable the way Kentucky just kept

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<v Speaker 1>coming back, coming back, and he was a huge part

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<v Speaker 1>of it. So was bad and pitching. Kentucky's pitching wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>much better. So it had to be that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>weekend where the offense came through, and it did. And

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler Bell right now, he's only hitting three forty seven

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<v Speaker 1>leads to the team in RBI, has stolen five bags,

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<v Speaker 1>and pretty good defensively too. So Wildcats need more of

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<v Speaker 1>that when the Rebels come to town. Up next, Cameron

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<v Speaker 1>Mills of the UK and net Work. We're back in

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<v Speaker 1>just a minute on six thirty WLAP Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Blue Insider and joining us now. I spent

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<v Speaker 1>much of last week with Cameron Mills because we worked

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<v Speaker 1>the Sweet sixteen together the high school version while the

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<v Speaker 1>So let us start with your beloved Wildcats, and you are,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as being a veteran of the Sweet sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>as a player, also a Wildcat, but also a teammate

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<v Speaker 1>of Mark Pope, and you are an unabashed fan and

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<v Speaker 1>you made no bones about that as you worked a

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<v Speaker 1>pregame show with Dave Fan and a friend and all that.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh Mark, yeah, Mark Yeah, I mean cut you back

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<v Speaker 5>your teammates, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>But I talked in the opening segments tonight about the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that I do believe this team surpassed the expectations

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<v Speaker 1>of most Kentucky fans back in the summer, but once

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<v Speaker 1>the season began, I said, the ceiling was elevated. The

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<v Speaker 1>floor was elevated because the team, the team played so well.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you know, I know you don't like playing on it.

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<v Speaker 5>The death sentence floors, yes, or the broken leg floors.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about it, but no. I mean, once we

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<v Speaker 1>saw what they were capable of doing, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>all started thinking, hum, you know, but then the injuries occur.

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<v Speaker 1>It was that kind of year. There were so many

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<v Speaker 1>ups and downs, and somebody pointed out to me within

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<v Speaker 1>a week span they never won two straight games. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they win a game, lose a game, win a couple,

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<v Speaker 5>Once I mean we got into SEC play, maybe and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm saying that once we got SEC played, that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>But if they'll never put together a long winning streak.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I know, well, they definitely didn't put together I

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<v Speaker 5>don't think six games in a row. And that's kind

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<v Speaker 5>of to me personally, like, i't what part of the

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<v Speaker 5>season you're in. That's kind of like indicator number one

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<v Speaker 5>you can do it. Yeah, even though yeah, no, I think.

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<v Speaker 5>I think because you've got to put together six games,

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<v Speaker 5>you're on the tournament and I don't care if you're

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<v Speaker 5>playing Little Sisters of Marcia at the beginning the season, exhibition, whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>You got to put six games a row into six

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<v Speaker 5>games in a row together. But I'm not saying a

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<v Speaker 1>Let me back yeah, let me back up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>If I had told you your your basketball knowledge, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>going into the season, all right, they're going to do

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<v Speaker 1>X y Z, but at some point they will be

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta think you would have adjusted your expectations. Am

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<v Speaker 5>I have I think a logical person wonder yes. But

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<v Speaker 5>and I say this with respect, BBN is not logically true.

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<v Speaker 1>What families is well true?

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<v Speaker 5>And look, my, my, My total experience since I was

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I should I should take that back, because

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<v Speaker 5>had a couple of years. What they may have this

419
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<v Speaker 5>year where you know, all of a sudden they jump

420
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<v Speaker 5>up and but remember Billy Donovan left Florida because he's like,

421
00:22:47.519 --> 00:22:49.839
<v Speaker 5>nobody cares, we want two back to backs, nobody cares.

422
00:22:49.839 --> 00:22:53.079
<v Speaker 5>Everybody was worried about football. Even even in my press conferences,

423
00:22:53.079 --> 00:22:54.680
<v Speaker 5>I'm getting asked with the football team, what is this?

424
00:22:55.079 --> 00:22:57.920
<v Speaker 5>I would have left too, well, and that's why I like,

425
00:22:58.039 --> 00:23:00.440
<v Speaker 5>what's funny is? And I get and I always completely

426
00:23:00.519 --> 00:23:04.000
<v Speaker 5>changed this and I have to just my expectations for

427
00:23:04.119 --> 00:23:06.400
<v Speaker 5>because I look at the kid from New Mexico and

428
00:23:06.400 --> 00:23:09.920
<v Speaker 5>New Mexico State Dent is it Dent? And I'm thinking, okay,

429
00:23:10.759 --> 00:23:13.359
<v Speaker 5>it was apparently it was down to us in UCLA,

430
00:23:14.519 --> 00:23:18.880
<v Speaker 5>and I'm like, okay, this is a no brainer. I mean,

431
00:23:19.359 --> 00:23:22.720
<v Speaker 5>what Cronin is a great coach. He definitely comes from

432
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<v Speaker 5>the Rick Patino school of coach ology. But over here,

433
00:23:27.559 --> 00:23:29.759
<v Speaker 5>if that's what Didn't wants, you know, you know, it

434
00:23:29.799 --> 00:23:31.799
<v Speaker 5>depends on what d it wants. But over here you've

435
00:23:31.839 --> 00:23:37.119
<v Speaker 5>got a guy that actually played for coach and is

436
00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:42.319
<v Speaker 5>far surpassed Cronan as far as in his first year.

437
00:23:42.359 --> 00:23:45.000
<v Speaker 5>What Cronin has done in his completeness at UCLA, I

438
00:23:45.079 --> 00:23:47.839
<v Speaker 5>think unless and I'm like, okay, so a no brainer.

439
00:23:47.880 --> 00:23:50.799
<v Speaker 5>And then someone reminded me or someone that video I

440
00:23:50.839 --> 00:23:54.359
<v Speaker 5>was watching it was mentioning oh and they were saying, well, yeah,

441
00:23:54.400 --> 00:23:56.079
<v Speaker 5>in UCLA is not going to have you know, as

442
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<v Speaker 5>far as nil, they're not going to have what what

443
00:23:58.119 --> 00:24:00.440
<v Speaker 5>Kentucky has. And I was in there thinking, well, number one,

444
00:24:00.440 --> 00:24:03.799
<v Speaker 5>why wouldn't UCLA have it? But At the same time,

445
00:24:03.880 --> 00:24:06.000
<v Speaker 5>UCLA is one of those schools where, even though I

446
00:24:06.000 --> 00:24:09.759
<v Speaker 5>would consider them a blue blood, what have they done recently,

447
00:24:09.960 --> 00:24:13.599
<v Speaker 5>I mean consistently recently. And I was shocked when he

448
00:24:13.640 --> 00:24:16.559
<v Speaker 5>went to UCLA because I've been I've been told, and

449
00:24:16.599 --> 00:24:18.400
<v Speaker 5>I say, I've been told. This is not inside information.

450
00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:22.880
<v Speaker 5>I think I saw it on a public forum. But like, apparently,

451
00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:25.759
<v Speaker 5>you know, our nil money this year is obscene. I

452
00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:28.200
<v Speaker 5>don't know if that's true, but I would. I was

453
00:24:28.200 --> 00:24:31.359
<v Speaker 5>shocked that he didn't come here. So I just I

454
00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:33.960
<v Speaker 5>just think as far as the expectations of what Kentucky

455
00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:38.400
<v Speaker 5>does or what Kentucky did this year, and I have

456
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<v Speaker 5>to it's hard for me. I have to separate my

457
00:24:40.119 --> 00:24:43.400
<v Speaker 5>biasness because I know I am biased towards Mark Sure,

458
00:24:44.200 --> 00:24:47.839
<v Speaker 5>and because I don't care what teammate. I mean, you

459
00:24:47.960 --> 00:24:51.160
<v Speaker 5>take the teammates I had that I didn't like, which

460
00:24:51.200 --> 00:24:54.000
<v Speaker 5>at the time, which now I love. But now but look,

461
00:24:54.119 --> 00:24:55.799
<v Speaker 5>when I was a freshmen, I was being hazed by

462
00:24:55.880 --> 00:24:58.519
<v Speaker 5>by Roger Groase and Tony Dalk. I mean, you know

463
00:24:58.920 --> 00:25:01.640
<v Speaker 5>when Antoine walk Girls one of my least favorite people

464
00:25:01.680 --> 00:25:04.680
<v Speaker 5>on earth, when I played with him. Now, I just

465
00:25:05.000 --> 00:25:06.480
<v Speaker 5>every time I see him. It's a bear hug and

466
00:25:06.519 --> 00:25:07.319
<v Speaker 5>I love him to death.

467
00:25:07.480 --> 00:25:09.599
<v Speaker 1>Was it Ane the one who told you his camraon you.

468
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<v Speaker 5>Just need to leave you just no, no, no no no

469
00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:14.759
<v Speaker 5>no no no, you are underplane what he said? Oh

470
00:25:14.920 --> 00:25:18.319
<v Speaker 5>you are you? You are censoring what he said. Antoine

471
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<v Speaker 5>is the one to help listen this.

472
00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:20.240
<v Speaker 4>No.

473
00:25:20.359 --> 00:25:24.000
<v Speaker 5>I love this story because because Antoine was so and

474
00:25:24.039 --> 00:25:25.519
<v Speaker 5>he'll tell you now, and that's what I love. That's

475
00:25:25.559 --> 00:25:29.799
<v Speaker 5>my favorite part of watching my teammates, including myself, grow old. Yes,

476
00:25:30.119 --> 00:25:34.359
<v Speaker 5>is because like God, we were arrogant, mother he just.

477
00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:36.920
<v Speaker 1>We just I mean yeah.

478
00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:40.079
<v Speaker 5>And then the documentary documentary that we did on the

479
00:25:40.160 --> 00:25:43.119
<v Speaker 5>ninety sixteen, I mean, the guys even admitted, now there's

480
00:25:43.160 --> 00:25:44.440
<v Speaker 5>the time they were in their you know, they're in

481
00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:46.839
<v Speaker 5>their forties and there even menu man, we were so men.

482
00:25:46.880 --> 00:25:49.000
<v Speaker 5>We thought we were the Beatles. I remember Walter saying

483
00:25:49.000 --> 00:25:51.440
<v Speaker 5>that we thought we were the Beatles, and I'm like, yeah, yeah,

484
00:25:51.440 --> 00:25:53.720
<v Speaker 5>we did. We didn't realize we did, but maybe we

485
00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:58.039
<v Speaker 5>realized we did. But Antoine was the most like the Beatles. Well,

486
00:25:58.079 --> 00:25:59.559
<v Speaker 5>and here's the thing is what I told this is

487
00:25:59.599 --> 00:26:03.359
<v Speaker 5>what I told people. I tell people to say because

488
00:26:03.359 --> 00:26:05.160
<v Speaker 5>a lot of times in in my ministry stuff, I'm

489
00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:08.039
<v Speaker 5>talking about humility and different between confidence and and arrogance,

490
00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:11.079
<v Speaker 5>and why humility draws people to you and and cockiness

491
00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:14.960
<v Speaker 5>or arrogance expels people from you. So I tell people

492
00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:17.319
<v Speaker 5>all the time the story about how you know, I thought,

493
00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:18.920
<v Speaker 5>I know we're getting off topic here, but this is

494
00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:20.559
<v Speaker 5>this is what we do. So I don't I don't

495
00:26:20.599 --> 00:26:25.720
<v Speaker 5>feel bad. But I thought that during my time at UK,

496
00:26:25.960 --> 00:26:28.480
<v Speaker 5>I was the outlier. Chep was an outlier too, Mark

497
00:26:28.559 --> 00:26:32.240
<v Speaker 5>was an outlier, right that, uh that the three of

498
00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:35.200
<v Speaker 5>us and I thought, you know, we're going to you know,

499
00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:39.519
<v Speaker 5>our faith is important to us, Our faith should make

500
00:26:39.640 --> 00:26:41.160
<v Speaker 5>us be different.

501
00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:46.039
<v Speaker 1>And then because of your faith. So what you're saying,

502
00:26:46.119 --> 00:26:48.319
<v Speaker 1>what you felt like an outlier because you're of your faith.

503
00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:51.039
<v Speaker 5>Yes, I know what I'm saying. I thought we were

504
00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:53.920
<v Speaker 5>outliers because of our behavior and our and I and

505
00:26:54.200 --> 00:26:57.559
<v Speaker 5>and I think our faith is what motivating motivator. Yeah,

506
00:26:57.559 --> 00:27:00.079
<v Speaker 5>well so motivated our behavior. But anyway, I'm going so

507
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:04.000
<v Speaker 5>off topic here, I'm sorry, But anyway, so, but Antoine

508
00:27:04.160 --> 00:27:08.000
<v Speaker 5>was the guy who I thought I would compare myself

509
00:27:08.079 --> 00:27:12.359
<v Speaker 5>to arrogance wise, not basketball, there's no reason to do

510
00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:16.000
<v Speaker 5>that whatsoever, but arrogance, because I would tell myself, okay,

511
00:27:16.039 --> 00:27:20.079
<v Speaker 5>so like if I felt like, or imagine in my

512
00:27:20.119 --> 00:27:22.160
<v Speaker 5>head that I had treated a fan less than an equal,

513
00:27:24.119 --> 00:27:26.200
<v Speaker 5>which there were moments where I was told that I had,

514
00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:29.319
<v Speaker 5>not by the fan, but by my people, you know

515
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:31.319
<v Speaker 5>what I mean, like the people that should have told

516
00:27:31.400 --> 00:27:35.839
<v Speaker 5>me that, right, my accountability people. I would just brush

517
00:27:35.880 --> 00:27:37.640
<v Speaker 5>it off as you don't know what you're talking about.

518
00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:40.240
<v Speaker 5>Let's go home and hang out with a guy named

519
00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:42.759
<v Speaker 5>Antoine Walker and you tell me if you think I'm cocky.

520
00:27:43.480 --> 00:27:44.720
<v Speaker 1>But that's not what you're supposed to do.

521
00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:47.440
<v Speaker 5>I mean, comparing yourself to another human being. Again, in

522
00:27:47.599 --> 00:27:49.559
<v Speaker 5>in my world, you know you don't do that. You

523
00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:51.759
<v Speaker 5>compare yourself to Christ and you see where you bounce out,

524
00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:54.640
<v Speaker 5>how how you bounce out with that, and then that proves, oh, well,

525
00:27:54.680 --> 00:27:57.559
<v Speaker 5>here's your shortcomings. But Antoine was the one that I

526
00:27:57.559 --> 00:28:00.880
<v Speaker 5>always compared myself to when it came to arrogance, because God,

527
00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:03.200
<v Speaker 5>I mean he he and Coach p Even We're in

528
00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:05.839
<v Speaker 5>Cincinnati and the two of them are having a yelling

529
00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:08.079
<v Speaker 5>I mean they're yelling at each other at a team meeting.

530
00:28:08.119 --> 00:28:10.440
<v Speaker 5>We're watching film at a team yelling at each other.

531
00:28:10.519 --> 00:28:12.799
<v Speaker 5>Coach Pte ends it by saying, you will never be

532
00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:13.519
<v Speaker 5>as big as me.

533
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:18.640
<v Speaker 1>I've heard about that. You will never be I am huge.

534
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:21.200
<v Speaker 1>It was will never be as biddy.

535
00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:23.240
<v Speaker 5>I mean the old team is like it's a cross

536
00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:25.839
<v Speaker 5>between do we laugh or do we cry? I mean, well,

537
00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:28.279
<v Speaker 5>what do we do here? This is the I mean,

538
00:28:28.319 --> 00:28:31.920
<v Speaker 5>because no one has ever yelled at coach P and

539
00:28:32.039 --> 00:28:34.480
<v Speaker 5>now Coach P'm back and he ends it with you'll

540
00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:35.920
<v Speaker 5>never be as big as me.

541
00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, just the fact that Antoine would he listen that

542
00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:42.839
<v Speaker 1>kind of response, well from Rick Bettino. Now and I'm

543
00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:43.839
<v Speaker 1>thinking ahead.

544
00:28:44.359 --> 00:28:48.759
<v Speaker 5>To the Scions, which which was this was Antoine's freshman year.

545
00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:51.440
<v Speaker 5>That was antoine senior year. A right, I'm sorry, sophomore year.

546
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember what was said in the huddle when

547
00:28:54.799 --> 00:28:56.119
<v Speaker 1>when Antoine was benched?

548
00:28:56.279 --> 00:28:56.920
<v Speaker 5>Nothing was said?

549
00:28:58.920 --> 00:29:00.000
<v Speaker 1>So why did he mention him?

550
00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:00.400
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

551
00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:03.680
<v Speaker 5>Oh it wasn't It wasn't so much. Oh okay, yeah,

552
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:08.319
<v Speaker 5>I see you. Sam. My recollection of that was you've

553
00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:09.920
<v Speaker 5>got me part of this is your fault. Now you've

554
00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:13.440
<v Speaker 5>got me in middle eight stories here, it's what I do.

555
00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:16.240
<v Speaker 5>That's what I do, which is you're doing it to

556
00:29:16.319 --> 00:29:20.880
<v Speaker 5>me is not helping this this segment. I thought you No,

557
00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:23.920
<v Speaker 5>I haven't even told it yet. Remember you asked me

558
00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:26.599
<v Speaker 5>about all right, so let me finish that. So what

559
00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:30.039
<v Speaker 5>do you so? So we're playing pick up immemorial hit

560
00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:33.200
<v Speaker 5>for his freshman year, my freshman year before the season starts.

561
00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:36.200
<v Speaker 5>Neither of us have had a freshman year. We're doing

562
00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:40.720
<v Speaker 5>preseason conditions. We're playing pick up and I got to play.

563
00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:42.640
<v Speaker 5>I got to play with the guys. And I only

564
00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:44.759
<v Speaker 5>say that because when I took my official visit to Georgia,

565
00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:48.599
<v Speaker 5>the walk Ons never played. We're never allowed. I mean

566
00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:51.839
<v Speaker 5>they were treated like like, I mean, just terrible and that,

567
00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:54.680
<v Speaker 5>and that, honestly is what turned me off from Georgia. Now,

568
00:29:54.680 --> 00:29:56.440
<v Speaker 5>I didn't want to go there anyway, but I did

569
00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:58.000
<v Speaker 5>take an official visit and I'm sitting there like I'm

570
00:29:58.000 --> 00:29:59.960
<v Speaker 5>not turning down an SEC scholarship. Look, I want to

571
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:02.000
<v Speaker 5>go to Kentucky. If they don't want me, then I

572
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:04.359
<v Speaker 5>gotta go here. And the one thing that I kept

573
00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:07.559
<v Speaker 5>going back to is but I'm embarrassed at how they're

574
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:09.920
<v Speaker 5>treating their walk on. Wow, and this was before I

575
00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:12.440
<v Speaker 5>was a walk on. So I'm gonna I mean it's

576
00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:14.319
<v Speaker 5>just I mean they were and it's not just that

577
00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:18.279
<v Speaker 5>they didn't let them play pick up. They just mocked them. Wow,

578
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:20.880
<v Speaker 5>it was embarrassing. I mean I was. I was embarrassed

579
00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:23.720
<v Speaker 5>for the program at that point. And what I love

580
00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:26.920
<v Speaker 5>about is eventually Tubby would be there next. And I

581
00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:29.519
<v Speaker 5>promise you that crap wasn't going on then. Right, So

582
00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:33.119
<v Speaker 5>we're playing pickup, and I, of all people, it's a

583
00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:36.440
<v Speaker 5>game point, right, it's we would always play to eleven. Now,

584
00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:38.920
<v Speaker 5>there were no threes, right, so it was just points,

585
00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:41.680
<v Speaker 5>eleven points and there were no twos. Everything's a point.

586
00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:46.119
<v Speaker 5>It's like ten, ten, ten, nine, something like that. And

587
00:30:46.599 --> 00:30:48.759
<v Speaker 5>somehow I get the ball the ball. Look, it's not

588
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:50.599
<v Speaker 5>like I didn't get a steal. The ball bounced to me.

589
00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:55.200
<v Speaker 5>I picked it up at on my defensive end, right

590
00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:58.640
<v Speaker 5>around free throw line. And I'm leading the break. Now

591
00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:00.519
<v Speaker 5>I shouldn't be leading the break my senior year, I

592
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:02.720
<v Speaker 5>shouldn't have been leading the break. But I was leading

593
00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:06.720
<v Speaker 5>the break. And Antoine was with me on the break

594
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:12.319
<v Speaker 5>because probably because he was snowbirding. But it's me, it's

595
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:14.279
<v Speaker 5>me and him. It's two on one, right, and so

596
00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:16.640
<v Speaker 5>and I remember who's on defense. It didn't matter. It

597
00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:18.799
<v Speaker 5>ultimately didn't matter anyway, because as I reached a three

598
00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:21.680
<v Speaker 5>point line on other end of the court, somehow I

599
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:25.359
<v Speaker 5>bounced the ball off my off both knees, one foot

600
00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:28.160
<v Speaker 5>and it just trails out of bounce. So we've got

601
00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:31.079
<v Speaker 5>a chance to win the game, and I blow it,

602
00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:34.440
<v Speaker 5>and I blow it Antoine immediately, and of course the

603
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:37.000
<v Speaker 5>next possession they come back, they score, they win, and

604
00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:40.200
<v Speaker 5>Antoine's just furious. So he's cussing me out out on

605
00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:43.119
<v Speaker 5>the court. And as he leaves, oh no, this happened

606
00:31:43.119 --> 00:31:45.079
<v Speaker 5>in the locker room. So he's cussed me on the court.

607
00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:46.599
<v Speaker 5>That was the last game we played. We get in

608
00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:49.799
<v Speaker 5>the locker room. He is still on fire, I mean

609
00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:53.839
<v Speaker 5>still just just yelling and and I'm like, dude, this

610
00:31:54.039 --> 00:31:56.079
<v Speaker 5>is like twenty minutes ago. Now I didn't say it

611
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:57.440
<v Speaker 5>because I'm only going to say a thing to him.

612
00:31:57.440 --> 00:31:59.359
<v Speaker 5>But so he finally turns to me in the middle

613
00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:01.559
<v Speaker 5>of locker room and this this thing. Everyone's still around,

614
00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:03.440
<v Speaker 5>we all had it, we'd all showered, everybody's getting their

615
00:32:03.480 --> 00:32:05.440
<v Speaker 5>clothes back on to go to the Lodger class or whatever.

616
00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:09.359
<v Speaker 5>He is just still and he finally looks at me

617
00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:11.880
<v Speaker 5>and says Cam. And I don't even know if he

618
00:32:11.920 --> 00:32:13.400
<v Speaker 5>called me Cam. He may have called me, he may

619
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:16.599
<v Speaker 5>have called me another name. You look right now, get

620
00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:22.079
<v Speaker 5>all your crap, put it together and leave. You are

621
00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:24.480
<v Speaker 5>off this team, and I don't want to see you

622
00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:27.680
<v Speaker 5>back in here. And I am such a nube because

623
00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:30.799
<v Speaker 5>I'm a freshman. I'm looking around at like Walt Tony,

624
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<v Speaker 5>like can he do this?

625
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:34.519
<v Speaker 4>Is this?

626
00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:38.680
<v Speaker 5>Am? I am? I off the team? And I swear

627
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:40.880
<v Speaker 5>to you it is my Every time I see Antoine,

628
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:43.519
<v Speaker 5>I bring it up every time I've ever told me that.

629
00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:46.079
<v Speaker 5>I swear I've told you that story. Thousands you told me.

630
00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:48.119
<v Speaker 1>You've told me he told you you should leave, but

631
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<v Speaker 1>you not in that context.

632
00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:54.000
<v Speaker 5>Oh he threw me off the team. You are terrible.

633
00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:56.960
<v Speaker 5>You are the word. You have no business being here.

634
00:32:57.319 --> 00:32:59.960
<v Speaker 5>You need to get your and get out of here

635
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:02.640
<v Speaker 5>right now and don't come back. And I'm like, I

636
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:05.599
<v Speaker 5>don't know what to do. I just don't know what

637
00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:09.880
<v Speaker 5>to do. And now and now that man, because of

638
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:14.400
<v Speaker 5>life and circumstances which a lot of people would look

639
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:19.039
<v Speaker 5>at as bad, which they were, but overall they have

640
00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:22.160
<v Speaker 5>humbled that guy. And now of all my teammates other

641
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:26.079
<v Speaker 5>than maybe Shep and Mark and the guys that I

642
00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:31.039
<v Speaker 5>was close to because of our faith. I mean, Antoine

643
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:32.359
<v Speaker 5>is the guy that I'm like, Man, I just want

644
00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:35.680
<v Speaker 5>to hang out with Antoine because he is so humbled and.

645
00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:40.640
<v Speaker 1>We all do some of us do it very in

646
00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:41.759
<v Speaker 1>different ways.

647
00:33:41.720 --> 00:33:44.160
<v Speaker 5>Yes, and for different reasons. Yes, but man, you hit

648
00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:46.400
<v Speaker 5>your forties almost fifties now for all of us. When

649
00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:48.839
<v Speaker 5>we had our ninety six autograph session a few weeks ago,

650
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:51.559
<v Speaker 5>the first question is we sat down and started talking

651
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:53.640
<v Speaker 5>to each other. Is all right? Who turns fifty first?

652
00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:59.319
<v Speaker 5>And Anthy goes, I'm already fifty. Wow, yeah, all right

653
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:03.079
<v Speaker 5>to take a We got that? Well, yeah, that's right.

654
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:05.559
<v Speaker 5>Eight more stories I'm in the middle of here.

655
00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:08.719
<v Speaker 1>Gamera Mills in the garage. Up next on six thirty

656
00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:12.719
<v Speaker 1>w l A P. He's giggling already, Camera Mills here

657
00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:14.400
<v Speaker 1>in the garage. What was said?

658
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:19.079
<v Speaker 5>This is our our times on show time. All right,

659
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:21.079
<v Speaker 5>I'll save the gratitude for later.

660
00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:24.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, great, Uh, anyway, let's wrap real quickly the Antoine

661
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Walker portion of our program. What was said in the

662
00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:28.840
<v Speaker 1>huddle issue this?

663
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:32.519
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I don't know that anyone has because what I

664
00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:37.320
<v Speaker 5>SEC Tournament nineteen ninety six. We're playing Mississippi State and

665
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:39.440
<v Speaker 5>Antoine does not play the second half.

666
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:42.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't people think Patino threw the game on purpose.

667
00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:44.599
<v Speaker 5>Well, I will tell you this, I don't know that

668
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:46.719
<v Speaker 5>he didn't throw it on purpose, because there's no guarantee

669
00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:48.239
<v Speaker 5>that you take Antoline out that we still don't win.

670
00:34:48.320 --> 00:34:50.920
<v Speaker 5>That's right, he didn't throw it on purpose. But what

671
00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:53.719
<v Speaker 5>he did do is admit in our documentary not to

672
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:57.440
<v Speaker 5>bring it up twice in a row, that I knew

673
00:34:57.480 --> 00:34:59.440
<v Speaker 5>we needed a loss. Yeah, he said that. He said that,

674
00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:00.920
<v Speaker 5>And this is why go to people all the time

675
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:05.840
<v Speaker 5>and say, I don't think you all understand the benefits

676
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:08.000
<v Speaker 5>of a late season loss, especially if you've run off

677
00:35:08.039 --> 00:35:11.280
<v Speaker 5>as we did twenty six in a row, exactly back

678
00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:13.320
<v Speaker 5>to the arrogance, arrogance hubility thing.

679
00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:16.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so he kind of pounced on this opportunity.

680
00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:19.159
<v Speaker 5>Maybe, Yes, that's what it is. He had been Antoine

681
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:21.840
<v Speaker 5>and him had been button heads all year, back to

682
00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:23.880
<v Speaker 5>the you'll never be bigger than me comment, which was

683
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:28.400
<v Speaker 5>earlier that season. And and so I don't remember what

684
00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:30.840
<v Speaker 5>Antoine said. I don't remember that it was something Antoine

685
00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:32.880
<v Speaker 5>said in the huddle, and that's probably that, that's probably

686
00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:35.639
<v Speaker 5>what happened. But because you're saying that makes me believe,

687
00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:37.559
<v Speaker 5>because you know, you remember stuff that I don't remember,

688
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:40.440
<v Speaker 5>even though I was actually in the huddle. I was

689
00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:43.199
<v Speaker 5>overwhelmed with a lot of things. Oh yeah, but what

690
00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:46.960
<v Speaker 5>I what my My my remembrance of that was Antoine

691
00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:49.960
<v Speaker 5>was Jack and shots was playing outside the game plan

692
00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:53.519
<v Speaker 5>and Coach had just had enough. That's my recollection of it.

693
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:57.320
<v Speaker 5>I'm sure in a timeout Coach was just letting him

694
00:35:57.360 --> 00:36:00.840
<v Speaker 5>have it, and Antoine may have just, you know, just

695
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:02.760
<v Speaker 5>blew him off or something, and Coach might have said

696
00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:06.159
<v Speaker 5>that's it and just said him. What I love is

697
00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:10.199
<v Speaker 5>that recently coach did the same thing with a star

698
00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:15.039
<v Speaker 5>at Saint Josh. Sure, and there's a different, different response

699
00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:17.719
<v Speaker 5>from the kid now and and now that that apparently

700
00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:20.880
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, sure not, but based on a graphic

701
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:23.920
<v Speaker 5>I saw on YouTube that kid may we may be

702
00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:26.800
<v Speaker 5>interested in him because he's in the transfer portal, which

703
00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:29.079
<v Speaker 5>will be It seems that would seem awkward for coach

704
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:31.639
<v Speaker 5>being coached in March's relationship.

705
00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:33.760
<v Speaker 1>And if he were, if he was a problem child

706
00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:34.679
<v Speaker 1>of Saint John's.

707
00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:37.840
<v Speaker 5>Well, here's the question. Here's the question though, here's the

708
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:40.960
<v Speaker 5>question though, was he or was it something in the moment,

709
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:43.039
<v Speaker 5>I would say.

710
00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:45.679
<v Speaker 1>Probably watching this documentary series.

711
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:47.320
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, how is that?

712
00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:48.440
<v Speaker 1>By the way, excellent?

713
00:36:48.679 --> 00:36:51.320
<v Speaker 5>I got to watch that. I have to I have

714
00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:52.280
<v Speaker 5>to wait till season goes.

715
00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:56.559
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and combine the insights you can glean from that

716
00:36:56.800 --> 00:36:58.280
<v Speaker 1>with your personal It's.

717
00:36:58.199 --> 00:36:59.679
<v Speaker 5>Like that one thing. I'd love to hear what you

718
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:01.639
<v Speaker 5>have said, that one thing they released of him in

719
00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:04.400
<v Speaker 5>the locker room. Oh yes, and everybody. I'm getting text

720
00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:07.000
<v Speaker 5>from people saying was he really this bad? And I

721
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:10.159
<v Speaker 5>was like, hang on, let me watch it. I'm like, bad,

722
00:37:11.239 --> 00:37:14.599
<v Speaker 5>this is I'd run through a brick. Waf this dude,

723
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:19.719
<v Speaker 5>because this dude. Number one, he's right, yeah. Number two

724
00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:22.639
<v Speaker 5>he is saying it in an amazing way. And number three,

725
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:26.400
<v Speaker 5>that's l like coach Patina that his diet Coach Patino.

726
00:37:26.519 --> 00:37:30.519
<v Speaker 5>That is nothing I told you. I told that was

727
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:31.039
<v Speaker 5>my coach.

728
00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:33.320
<v Speaker 1>I told her about Seawan Wood's story about when he

729
00:37:33.400 --> 00:37:34.880
<v Speaker 1>and I were in the locker room after they had

730
00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:37.639
<v Speaker 1>won an nca tournament game in rough and one of

731
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:40.039
<v Speaker 1>the UFL players hollered over at him, Hey, coach, what

732
00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:44.599
<v Speaker 1>times a bust leave and Sean ducked just instinctively flinched, like,

733
00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:47.119
<v Speaker 1>oh then he felt, I felt so bad for the guy.

734
00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:50.320
<v Speaker 1>He was gonna get it both barrels, and he said.

735
00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Rick Patino looked up and said, now about fifteen.

736
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:54.840
<v Speaker 5>Minutes, I know it's just like so for what Yeah,

737
00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:55.280
<v Speaker 5>it's like.

738
00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:57.840
<v Speaker 1>And Sean almost made it sound like, you know, he

739
00:37:58.039 --> 00:37:59.719
<v Speaker 1>was relieved for the kid, But then he thought, wait

740
00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:00.599
<v Speaker 1>a minute.

741
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:04.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's not fair. Yeah, that's you don't get to

742
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:07.519
<v Speaker 5>play for him, this version of him, because none of

743
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:08.280
<v Speaker 5>the rest of us did.

744
00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:11.119
<v Speaker 1>And what's the funniest thing to me was that version

745
00:38:11.199 --> 00:38:14.639
<v Speaker 1>of Rick Bettino also won a national title at Louisville.

746
00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:16.840
<v Speaker 5>That and look he's easier, and look.

747
00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:18.840
<v Speaker 1>And Mike well a one one of Saint John's with

748
00:38:18.920 --> 00:38:20.039
<v Speaker 1>better shooters.

749
00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:21.039
<v Speaker 5>May still win one at Saint Johns.

750
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Might he might? I mean what I mean, if you

751
00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:25.719
<v Speaker 1>saw them lose, you could you knew why they couldn't

752
00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:26.559
<v Speaker 1>hit a shot when.

753
00:38:26.480 --> 00:38:29.800
<v Speaker 5>They had to three years he's been there or two?

754
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:30.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

755
00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:33.119
<v Speaker 5>Three two three? No, I think he's three two. He's

756
00:38:33.159 --> 00:38:35.599
<v Speaker 5>not been there long, and he's already he's already got

757
00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:37.360
<v Speaker 5>them right on the version of the Final four.

758
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:40.079
<v Speaker 1>So Cammeron Mills is in the garage. We have many

759
00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:42.760
<v Speaker 1>more stories to go. We will so many talk more

760
00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:45.960
<v Speaker 1>about the wildcast, but I just needed to put a

761
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:49.639
<v Speaker 1>bow on the Antoine Walker affair. We'll talk about the

762
00:38:49.639 --> 00:38:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Sweet sixteen high school tournament because Cam got a great.

763
00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:52.719
<v Speaker 5>That's what we said.

764
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:54.719
<v Speaker 1>We were going to talk sure why we will future

765
00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:57.239
<v Speaker 1>Wildcat I like Ti Marino, All of that ahead coming

766
00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:00.000
<v Speaker 1>up on the big womside around six thirty w lap.

767
00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:57.239
<v Speaker 7>Any such such statuta anything, do anything only.

768
00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Big Moon Saturday. I number two

769
00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:55.880
<v Speaker 1>here in the garage with Cameron Mills. He is here

770
00:40:55.960 --> 00:40:59.960
<v Speaker 1>to talk UK basketball and the high schools the Sweet sixteen.

771
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:03.039
<v Speaker 1>Cam and I worked it for the khs A radio network.

772
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Believe it or not, we got off on a little tangent.

773
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:11.159
<v Speaker 5>Little in the first two segments. It took me two segments.

774
00:41:11.400 --> 00:41:14.119
<v Speaker 1>We did touch on on Mark Pope and his team

775
00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:16.920
<v Speaker 1>and the first cameraon part of our pregame coverage on

776
00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:22.079
<v Speaker 1>the UK radio network. But now that team, you know,

777
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:25.400
<v Speaker 1>is off in the ethernet. It's it's you know, the

778
00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>guys have come and gone.

779
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:30.719
<v Speaker 5>Which is just sad it is, But because this team.

780
00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:33.280
<v Speaker 5>I'll say, it's real quick, so we don't get from

781
00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:37.159
<v Speaker 5>another changent to me not knowing what's going to happen

782
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:40.119
<v Speaker 5>in the future, but thinking, I know this team is

783
00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:43.320
<v Speaker 5>a not as not as important in the UK lore.

784
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:45.840
<v Speaker 5>But what we had this year, this is this is

785
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:47.079
<v Speaker 5>unforgettables too. Yeah.

786
00:41:48.039 --> 00:41:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because from whatever happens now in a good way

787
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:53.960
<v Speaker 1>in the Mark Pope era, they stand on their shoulders.

788
00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:56.480
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly an the way that team came together, that's exactly.

789
00:41:56.960 --> 00:42:00.920
<v Speaker 1>And I was so moved when Mark Pope was talking

790
00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:04.159
<v Speaker 1>on his last Coaches show the year about the fact

791
00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:09.559
<v Speaker 1>that these guys went from the media interviews, from the

792
00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:11.639
<v Speaker 1>from the table, the big table, which I think you

793
00:42:11.719 --> 00:42:12.400
<v Speaker 1>may have gotten to do.

794
00:42:12.599 --> 00:42:13.119
<v Speaker 5>I got to do.

795
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Once, or the locker room or whatever, back to the

796
00:42:18.920 --> 00:42:21.360
<v Speaker 1>either the hotel or the doing whatever. They didn't break

797
00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:24.920
<v Speaker 1>up until six am. They sat around just talking telling

798
00:42:25.079 --> 00:42:26.639
<v Speaker 1>stories until.

799
00:42:26.519 --> 00:42:29.440
<v Speaker 5>Six as fellas just wait for twenty years to go by,

800
00:42:29.639 --> 00:42:32.079
<v Speaker 5>and those stories are not going to go away, and

801
00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:34.320
<v Speaker 5>you will tell them over and over and over again.

802
00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:36.719
<v Speaker 1>But the fact that they just didn't want they want

803
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:38.880
<v Speaker 1>to leave this season, didn't want to leave each other.

804
00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:41.440
<v Speaker 5>And you know, what Mark said this during one of

805
00:42:41.480 --> 00:42:46.840
<v Speaker 5>his coaches shows mid season maybe even no, I think

806
00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:50.639
<v Speaker 5>it was right as we started sec play and this

807
00:42:50.920 --> 00:42:53.639
<v Speaker 5>wasn't something he said, Well he did say it on air,

808
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:55.920
<v Speaker 5>but he also said it, you know after as he

809
00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:59.559
<v Speaker 5>was kind of mingling before he left, because but he

810
00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:02.079
<v Speaker 5>definitely on air, which was I mean, he almost got

811
00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:04.880
<v Speaker 5>teary eyed mid season just saying, I can't believe we're

812
00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:05.519
<v Speaker 5>already here.

813
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:08.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I don't want to too fast.

814
00:43:08.360 --> 00:43:11.320
<v Speaker 5>I don't. I mean, I don't want this season to end.

815
00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:14.239
<v Speaker 5>And it was because it was in context of these guys,

816
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:18.960
<v Speaker 5>because you imagine how much research can you put in.

817
00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:24.880
<v Speaker 5>And I'm not talking about film, I'm talking about did

818
00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:30.159
<v Speaker 5>I recruit any cancers? Did I recruit any is I

819
00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:33.239
<v Speaker 5>recruiting any disruptors? Or any guys on this team not

820
00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:34.119
<v Speaker 5>going to get it?

821
00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:35.679
<v Speaker 4>Yea.

822
00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:39.480
<v Speaker 5>And not only were there no bad eggs, I mean

823
00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:42.079
<v Speaker 5>these guys that this was eggs Benedict that we got.

824
00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:46.119
<v Speaker 5>I mean these guys, these thank you, These guys, I

825
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:48.280
<v Speaker 5>mean they're just good to And here's how I knew

826
00:43:48.320 --> 00:43:50.360
<v Speaker 5>they were good dudes my very first day.

827
00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:51.880
<v Speaker 1>And you get to go to practice a lot.

828
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:54.159
<v Speaker 5>So that's where this is. So I'm at practice, my

829
00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:59.679
<v Speaker 5>very first practice, maybe the second time I've seen Mark

830
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:03.920
<v Speaker 5>since he became coach, showed up to practice in the

831
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:07.119
<v Speaker 5>capacity of my JMI job of doing these practice reports

832
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:10.599
<v Speaker 5>that I did all season, which was funny because Mark thought.

833
00:44:11.800 --> 00:44:14.760
<v Speaker 5>Mark was like, now listen, I know you have to

834
00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:19.800
<v Speaker 5>be unbiased, and I'm like, no, I don't. I said.

835
00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:22.920
<v Speaker 5>First of all, I said, Mark, I can't be unbiased

836
00:44:23.079 --> 00:44:25.199
<v Speaker 5>with you. I just can't. I mean, I mean, I

837
00:44:25.239 --> 00:44:27.199
<v Speaker 5>am going to root for you. I mean I was

838
00:44:27.639 --> 00:44:31.760
<v Speaker 5>reading for you your Utah Valley, you know. And so

839
00:44:33.239 --> 00:44:39.599
<v Speaker 5>I show up and he sees me and immediately we're

840
00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:41.719
<v Speaker 5>getting ready to have, you know, pre pre practice huddle.

841
00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:44.719
<v Speaker 5>Immediately says hey Cam, because I'm sitting on the sidelines,

842
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:47.280
<v Speaker 5>Hey Cam, come here. So he brings me over, puts

843
00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:50.360
<v Speaker 5>his arm around me, introduces me to the team, points

844
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:52.679
<v Speaker 5>to the two ninety six ninety eight banners, say guys,

845
00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:56.920
<v Speaker 5>this guy is partly responsible for those that one which

846
00:44:57.119 --> 00:44:58.360
<v Speaker 5>ninety six and all wasn't but.

847
00:44:58.440 --> 00:44:59.239
<v Speaker 1>Still were there.

848
00:44:59.400 --> 00:44:59.840
<v Speaker 5>I was there.

849
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:00.880
<v Speaker 1>I was there.

850
00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:04.000
<v Speaker 5>I had a uniform on, but I did not sweat,

851
00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:06.920
<v Speaker 5>not even a warm up. So East pointed that one

852
00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:10.000
<v Speaker 5>pointed and goes and he's definitely responsible in part again

853
00:45:10.239 --> 00:45:13.119
<v Speaker 5>for that one. And so yeah, not any of them.

854
00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:17.039
<v Speaker 5>And so I had some some more very kind things

855
00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:19.000
<v Speaker 5>to say about me in front of the team, and

856
00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:23.719
<v Speaker 5>and then I walked back. They start practice after practice,

857
00:45:25.159 --> 00:45:27.920
<v Speaker 5>with the exception of the guys I already knew Derbyshire

858
00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:34.119
<v Speaker 5>and Horne walk on. Yeah, Which that's my meeting absolutely

859
00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:39.119
<v Speaker 5>the entire team, every every new player. Oh, when Travis

860
00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:41.920
<v Speaker 5>and Trent, I had met Travis and Trent, and but

861
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:43.800
<v Speaker 5>they came over anyway. So they all came over one

862
00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:48.960
<v Speaker 5>by one and and introduced themselves to me. I know

863
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:52.559
<v Speaker 5>who these guys are. I followed their recruiting or off

864
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:55.199
<v Speaker 5>the portal or in Trent's cases, you know, recruiting from

865
00:45:55.320 --> 00:46:00.880
<v Speaker 5>South Carolina. And I've never I've never experienced that. And

866
00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:02.639
<v Speaker 5>this is this is not a slight in any of

867
00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:07.400
<v Speaker 5>Cal's teams, because in part they were freshmen, and I did.

868
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:09.039
<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't have done that as a freshman. I was

869
00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:12.239
<v Speaker 5>I was terrified. I mean, why would you, why would you?

870
00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:15.559
<v Speaker 5>Whoever you are sitting over here in the middle of

871
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:19.039
<v Speaker 5>practice as a guest. You don't even know my name,

872
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:22.400
<v Speaker 5>And I don't think you want to. And it wasn't

873
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:24.760
<v Speaker 5>like I was I was being rude. It was like

874
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:27.599
<v Speaker 5>I just they don't care about who I am, and

875
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:30.719
<v Speaker 5>so I wouldn't. Never, as a senior, I wouldn't do that.

876
00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:33.760
<v Speaker 5>I should have, but I didn't. And these guys came

877
00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:38.159
<v Speaker 5>over and entered, I mean again, as as men. I

878
00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:42.960
<v Speaker 5>to eye contact, heads up, hand extended. My name's Andrew Carr.

879
00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:45.880
<v Speaker 5>Nice to meet you or no. Actually, what most of

880
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:47.280
<v Speaker 5>them said was it's an honor to meet you. And

881
00:46:47.360 --> 00:46:50.719
<v Speaker 5>they emphasized honor because Mark had made such a big

882
00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:53.800
<v Speaker 5>deal about those banners, and as already and all year

883
00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:56.280
<v Speaker 5>had been Hey, look this is this is not about

884
00:46:56.280 --> 00:46:58.719
<v Speaker 5>winning the SEC. This is not about going to sweet sixteen.

885
00:46:59.239 --> 00:47:00.960
<v Speaker 5>We're here this year to hang a banner.

886
00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh listen, I heard and witnessed some of these guys

887
00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:11.280
<v Speaker 1>when they found out who Jack Gibbons is and what he.

888
00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:16.400
<v Speaker 5>Accomplished, you know, And so when you're a freshman and

889
00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:21.559
<v Speaker 5>you're here only only to put in your year to

890
00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:24.920
<v Speaker 5>get to the league, yep, And look, they don't owe

891
00:47:25.039 --> 00:47:30.800
<v Speaker 5>us anything. They don't. I'm gonna take former players and

892
00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:33.920
<v Speaker 5>I'm actually gonna amend that they actually do. They don't

893
00:47:33.960 --> 00:47:36.199
<v Speaker 5>know us anything in the time other than the respect

894
00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:42.599
<v Speaker 5>of knowing that in part this building that they're practicing in, sure,

895
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:44.960
<v Speaker 5>the arena that they're going to play.

896
00:47:44.840 --> 00:47:47.719
<v Speaker 1>In, those scoculation of fans, those.

897
00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:51.000
<v Speaker 5>Twenty two thousand idiots, and I say that respectfully, idiots

898
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:53.800
<v Speaker 5>BBN that are going to show up and treat you

899
00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:57.960
<v Speaker 5>like gods for this year. That's in part because we've

900
00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:01.719
<v Speaker 5>kept it going. Did it started? We kept it joing. Absolutely,

901
00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:02.960
<v Speaker 5>that's what they think.

902
00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:06.079
<v Speaker 1>That's what I loved about this team as a media member,

903
00:48:06.159 --> 00:48:08.239
<v Speaker 1>but someone who grew up in the state of Kentucky,

904
00:48:09.039 --> 00:48:12.079
<v Speaker 1>these it was such a unique situation and that these

905
00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:14.760
<v Speaker 1>guys had begun. We all know they had begun their careers.

906
00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:18.360
<v Speaker 1>But the exception to the freshmen and at other schools

907
00:48:18.800 --> 00:48:20.840
<v Speaker 1>where basketball would be what are you doing tonight? I

908
00:48:20.880 --> 00:48:23.320
<v Speaker 1>want to go to the game? You know, all right,

909
00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:26.360
<v Speaker 1>let's go for the first half or whatever. Compared to

910
00:48:26.840 --> 00:48:31.199
<v Speaker 1>foreign to me that thought exactly compared to what they

911
00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:35.320
<v Speaker 1>dropped into. Well, what I absolutely loved was because they

912
00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:40.280
<v Speaker 1>were connoisseurs of the game, of the culture of college basketball,

913
00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:44.000
<v Speaker 1>they had such an app and at all fairness, no

914
00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:48.400
<v Speaker 1>incoming freshmen could ever have that kind of appreciation except

915
00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:49.960
<v Speaker 1>for a kid who grew up in the state of Kentucky.

916
00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:51.280
<v Speaker 1>But that's going to be.

917
00:48:51.400 --> 00:48:54.320
<v Speaker 5>Rare, well, you know, or even the occasional Jeff Shepherd,

918
00:48:54.360 --> 00:48:56.800
<v Speaker 5>wh grew up in Peachtree City, Georgia, who had the

919
00:48:56.840 --> 00:48:58.360
<v Speaker 5>appreciation of Kentucky basketball.

920
00:48:58.559 --> 00:49:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Wa And why was that? Do you remember?

921
00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:02.360
<v Speaker 5>He told? You know what, it's funny.

922
00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:05.960
<v Speaker 1>And Sean Woods, whose grandmother lived here, Shawn had lived here,

923
00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:07.760
<v Speaker 1>so that was Sean spent childhood here.

924
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:11.239
<v Speaker 5>Shep had no connection here at all, and yet but

925
00:49:11.480 --> 00:49:13.960
<v Speaker 5>he there is a reason. And he told it recently

926
00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:17.000
<v Speaker 5>actually to me, not just to me. He was he

927
00:49:17.119 --> 00:49:20.320
<v Speaker 5>was he was preaching at a he was preaching at

928
00:49:20.599 --> 00:49:22.760
<v Speaker 5>a church here in Lexington for a men's group. And

929
00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:24.760
<v Speaker 5>it's the church that my mom and dad go to.

930
00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:27.920
<v Speaker 5>And so my dad, who never does this, my dad

931
00:49:28.280 --> 00:49:29.679
<v Speaker 5>called me and said, hey, would you would you go

932
00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:32.800
<v Speaker 5>with me? And which was awesome because it was like,

933
00:49:33.480 --> 00:49:36.239
<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's like, hey, I want to go here, SHEP,

934
00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:39.159
<v Speaker 5>I want you to go with me here? Shep. It's

935
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:42.000
<v Speaker 5>like okay. So we went and and Shep actually told

936
00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:45.880
<v Speaker 5>that story of how he went from because I didn't

937
00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:47.719
<v Speaker 5>know this like I just studied grew up in Peach

938
00:49:47.760 --> 00:49:51.599
<v Speaker 5>Tree City. He actually grew up in like southeast Georgia,

939
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:56.119
<v Speaker 5>like down near the like on the coast, and I

940
00:49:56.159 --> 00:49:58.800
<v Speaker 5>guess somewhere outside of Savannah and so and then they

941
00:49:58.880 --> 00:50:04.000
<v Speaker 5>moved to Peach Tree City. But my understanding of him

942
00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:07.239
<v Speaker 5>telling the story was that his love for Kentucky basketball

943
00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:09.280
<v Speaker 5>was not when he was in Peachtree City, was when

944
00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:11.519
<v Speaker 5>he was in this other town in southern Georgia. And

945
00:50:11.840 --> 00:50:13.280
<v Speaker 5>and that was what we're talking about. When he's five

946
00:50:13.320 --> 00:50:16.239
<v Speaker 5>years old that time. I don't know what happened. I

947
00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:19.000
<v Speaker 5>cannot remember the details his story, but something and there

948
00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:22.559
<v Speaker 5>is a story, is there's something happened, and something happened

949
00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:24.400
<v Speaker 5>is in like he he may have watched us play

950
00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:24.960
<v Speaker 5>on TV.

951
00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:26.159
<v Speaker 1>Or something to get him back on the show and

952
00:50:26.239 --> 00:50:27.760
<v Speaker 1>ask him he's not hard.

953
00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:29.440
<v Speaker 5>Well, he is hard to get back on a show,

954
00:50:29.480 --> 00:50:30.920
<v Speaker 5>but he's not. He's not hard to get ahold of.

955
00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:33.440
<v Speaker 5>He works here, he works here in town, but he

956
00:50:33.599 --> 00:50:34.519
<v Speaker 5>does work here.

957
00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:37.719
<v Speaker 1>Well. Just stories like that always fascinated me.

958
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:40.320
<v Speaker 5>So we were the only reason I do the show

959
00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:41.599
<v Speaker 5>is to tell stories.

960
00:50:41.360 --> 00:50:43.079
<v Speaker 1>That's true, and you do it so well, all right,

961
00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:47.079
<v Speaker 1>Cameron Mills. He's in the garage. I would disagree with

962
00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:49.719
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky basketball. After the break here on six Welcome back

963
00:50:49.719 --> 00:50:51.960
<v Speaker 1>to the Big Moon Sider Dick Gabriel. Cameron Mills in

964
00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:56.480
<v Speaker 1>the garage talking Kentucky basketball. We've looked back on this

965
00:50:56.679 --> 00:51:00.679
<v Speaker 1>last season somewhat. Uh, truth be told, Cameron did not

966
00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:03.519
<v Speaker 1>watch the Tennessee game. I know you've seen highlights. I

967
00:51:03.599 --> 00:51:05.559
<v Speaker 1>went back and watched it because I watched.

968
00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:07.719
<v Speaker 5>Like a like a fifteen minute you know, on those

969
00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:08.840
<v Speaker 5>things where well, we were we.

970
00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:11.599
<v Speaker 1>Were busy working the boys high school tournament, which we'll

971
00:51:11.639 --> 00:51:13.079
<v Speaker 1>talk about shortly.

972
00:51:13.239 --> 00:51:15.079
<v Speaker 5>It's hard to watch the last game of any season

973
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:16.840
<v Speaker 5>unless it's the game it is.

974
00:51:17.239 --> 00:51:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Uh. And I almost felt better in that they didn't

975
00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:22.960
<v Speaker 1>lose on a last second shot. I know that sounds odd,

976
00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:25.480
<v Speaker 1>No it doesn't, but Tennessee, you would It would have

977
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:26.079
<v Speaker 1>been heartbreaking.

978
00:51:26.320 --> 00:51:29.239
<v Speaker 5>It would have more so more so than this was buttend. Yeah,

979
00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:31.199
<v Speaker 5>and not to finish you since, but Tennessee went out

980
00:51:31.199 --> 00:51:33.960
<v Speaker 5>there improved. Well, here's what Tennessee did. They went out

981
00:51:33.960 --> 00:51:34.920
<v Speaker 5>there and took their vengeance.

982
00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Yes, what they did they did, uh, And that's that's

983
00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:38.320
<v Speaker 1>the thing.

984
00:51:38.519 --> 00:51:40.559
<v Speaker 5>They came out much more focused much more ready to

985
00:51:40.599 --> 00:51:43.320
<v Speaker 5>play and with a chip on their shoulder because we

986
00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:45.039
<v Speaker 5>had shown them after two games that we were a

987
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:47.079
<v Speaker 5>better team. They didn't believe it. They came out and

988
00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:49.440
<v Speaker 5>improved it in that moment that they were the better team.

989
00:51:49.519 --> 00:51:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Somebody em on me and said that they were more

990
00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:56.320
<v Speaker 1>ready to play, and that's Mark Pope's fault. Now, I yeah,

991
00:51:56.360 --> 00:51:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't go with that.

992
00:51:57.480 --> 00:51:59.519
<v Speaker 5>Well, no, it is Mark's Pope's fault in that he

993
00:51:59.679 --> 00:52:02.920
<v Speaker 5>beat this team twice this year. That's coach Pub's fault.

994
00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but there is that emotional edge, which is a

995
00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:06.119
<v Speaker 1>great advantage.

996
00:52:06.119 --> 00:52:08.360
<v Speaker 5>And you know, it's funny. I have arguments with people

997
00:52:08.480 --> 00:52:11.760
<v Speaker 5>who say, you know, because I talk about billboard material,

998
00:52:11.960 --> 00:52:14.280
<v Speaker 5>do not give your opponent billboard.

999
00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:15.719
<v Speaker 1>Material, board material whatever.

1000
00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:18.119
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, billboard would be Yeah, it'd

1001
00:52:18.119 --> 00:52:20.880
<v Speaker 5>be different thing billtimboard material. Don't give him anything to

1002
00:52:21.159 --> 00:52:24.079
<v Speaker 5>add motivation to what you can do. And I people say, look,

1003
00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:26.760
<v Speaker 5>if you have to have added motivation to play a

1004
00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:29.039
<v Speaker 5>college basketball game, I'm like, okay, then you've never played

1005
00:52:29.039 --> 00:52:30.920
<v Speaker 5>a college game. You probably never played a game in

1006
00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:33.079
<v Speaker 5>your life because you don't understand how this works psychologically.

1007
00:52:33.559 --> 00:52:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree, you you.

1008
00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:38.239
<v Speaker 5>Got I mean, coach p was a master at it.

1009
00:52:38.719 --> 00:52:40.159
<v Speaker 5>I think he made stuff up sometimes.

1010
00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:42.800
<v Speaker 1>You know what they said about you all, you know

1011
00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:45.119
<v Speaker 1>it was the master Michael Jordan.

1012
00:52:46.039 --> 00:52:46.280
<v Speaker 5>See.

1013
00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:48.880
<v Speaker 1>And that's the point. Yeah, that's a great point.

1014
00:52:49.239 --> 00:52:51.320
<v Speaker 5>If the best player of all time needed add a

1015
00:52:51.360 --> 00:52:54.440
<v Speaker 5>motivation exactly, why wouldn't the idiots in college need it exactly?

1016
00:52:54.559 --> 00:52:57.159
<v Speaker 1>And the best example of that came at the expense

1017
00:52:57.519 --> 00:52:59.280
<v Speaker 1>of a former Louisville player. I don't know if you

1018
00:52:59.320 --> 00:53:03.000
<v Speaker 1>ever know this story. The Bradford Smith was playing for

1019
00:53:03.119 --> 00:53:05.440
<v Speaker 1>the Washington I think they were still the Bullets back then.

1020
00:53:05.639 --> 00:53:11.079
<v Speaker 1>They and for whatever reason, Michael Jordan had it in

1021
00:53:11.199 --> 00:53:13.800
<v Speaker 1>his mind. I think he had one good game against

1022
00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:17.519
<v Speaker 1>Michael Jordan, and Jordan had put it in his own

1023
00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:21.599
<v Speaker 1>mind that this guy was was smack talking about that game,

1024
00:53:21.679 --> 00:53:24.119
<v Speaker 1>which he wasn't. So the next time he faced him,

1025
00:53:24.519 --> 00:53:29.079
<v Speaker 1>he just made mincemeat out of it. Was talking to

1026
00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:31.679
<v Speaker 1>him about it throughout the game, and le Bradford Smith

1027
00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:34.039
<v Speaker 1>was like, what did I do? What did I say?

1028
00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:34.360
<v Speaker 3>You know?

1029
00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:38.199
<v Speaker 5>There are so many great and and I love watching

1030
00:53:38.239 --> 00:53:41.559
<v Speaker 5>them because man, they just Kobe was the same way

1031
00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:47.199
<v Speaker 5>where Bryant, Oh yeah of course, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1032
00:53:47.239 --> 00:53:51.559
<v Speaker 5>Cobe Cobe. Oh absolutely, I mean he would he. I mean,

1033
00:53:51.599 --> 00:53:54.400
<v Speaker 5>the worst thing you could do is open up your

1034
00:53:54.440 --> 00:53:57.840
<v Speaker 5>mouth to them. Just leave them alone and let the sleep.

1035
00:53:57.920 --> 00:54:01.760
<v Speaker 1>And clearly Kentucky this was not a smack talk thing,

1036
00:54:01.840 --> 00:54:04.800
<v Speaker 1>but it was Tennessee all they heard about going in. Well,

1037
00:54:05.039 --> 00:54:06.079
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky beat him twice.

1038
00:54:06.199 --> 00:54:08.880
<v Speaker 5>Do you remember this would have been under Tubby when

1039
00:54:08.880 --> 00:54:12.719
<v Speaker 5>we played Duke at Duke and I actually actually wasn't

1040
00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:12.840
<v Speaker 5>it do?

1041
00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:14.199
<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

1042
00:54:14.760 --> 00:54:17.880
<v Speaker 5>And this was team turmoil, that's right. And Rashad Caruth

1043
00:54:19.880 --> 00:54:22.960
<v Speaker 5>Jay Williams up in the first half, yes, and what

1044
00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:25.599
<v Speaker 5>is he remember Jay Williams number one player of the

1045
00:54:25.679 --> 00:54:29.679
<v Speaker 5>year that year in college basketball and we were supposed

1046
00:54:29.679 --> 00:54:33.239
<v Speaker 5>to lose that game and we were killing them. Rashaw

1047
00:54:33.320 --> 00:54:36.440
<v Speaker 5>Caruth specifically killing Jay Williams in that first half, and

1048
00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:38.760
<v Speaker 5>I mean about five minutes left in the half. He

1049
00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:43.679
<v Speaker 5>hast has had his way with Jay. And you can

1050
00:54:43.719 --> 00:54:46.079
<v Speaker 5>see it so many times. He's Jawn to Jay and

1051
00:54:46.159 --> 00:54:48.599
<v Speaker 5>I and I'm I am wincing at home watching the

1052
00:54:48.639 --> 00:54:51.880
<v Speaker 5>game and I'm like, dude, dude, just stop it. No

1053
00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:55.320
<v Speaker 5>mean wanted to just stop it. That second half came

1054
00:54:55.360 --> 00:54:59.280
<v Speaker 5>out and Jay Williams destroyed the team, and I'm like,

1055
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:01.360
<v Speaker 5>that is for Shaka's fault.

1056
00:55:01.519 --> 00:55:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you do not you know what else he did?

1057
00:55:03.440 --> 00:55:05.719
<v Speaker 5>You do not open your mouth against careers.

1058
00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Not only did that during the game, but during warm

1059
00:55:09.039 --> 00:55:12.280
<v Speaker 1>ups he kept throwing in and I didn't know what

1060
00:55:12.400 --> 00:55:14.039
<v Speaker 1>was happening because I was there, but I was up

1061
00:55:14.079 --> 00:55:16.760
<v Speaker 1>in the boonies, up in the rafters, and I could

1062
00:55:16.800 --> 00:55:19.119
<v Speaker 1>see him warming up, and it was in front of

1063
00:55:19.159 --> 00:55:22.639
<v Speaker 1>the Duke bench and he kept throwing in three pointers

1064
00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:26.960
<v Speaker 1>like two or three steps beyond the arc. I uh huh, yeah,

1065
00:55:27.119 --> 00:55:30.400
<v Speaker 1>And each time he would turn to Skrzyzewski. Should have

1066
00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:33.800
<v Speaker 1>recruited me, bang see, that should have should have taken me.

1067
00:55:35.320 --> 00:55:38.079
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's just that that I just realized. I

1068
00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:40.679
<v Speaker 1>should have known that it extended through the game. So

1069
00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:41.800
<v Speaker 1>now let us bring it back.

1070
00:55:41.960 --> 00:55:43.880
<v Speaker 5>Well, let me real quick and this will be relevant

1071
00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:46.800
<v Speaker 5>to this year's teams. Okay, so this back talking before

1072
00:55:46.840 --> 00:55:51.119
<v Speaker 5>the Tennessee game, was there, well number one, there was?

1073
00:55:51.239 --> 00:55:54.880
<v Speaker 5>When was it Ziggler? When Ziggler was here right for

1074
00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:58.079
<v Speaker 5>the because Tennessee played their preliminary game, preliminary games, first

1075
00:55:58.159 --> 00:56:00.320
<v Speaker 5>round games here. Did you not see the picture of

1076
00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:02.320
<v Speaker 5>Ziggler flipping off a picture of him. I mean it's

1077
00:56:02.360 --> 00:56:03.880
<v Speaker 5>like it's like one of his teammates took it of

1078
00:56:04.000 --> 00:56:06.880
<v Speaker 5>him flipping off the UK logo back in the hallway

1079
00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:09.360
<v Speaker 5>at RUP. You didn't see that. Yeah, not only that,

1080
00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:12.440
<v Speaker 5>but then apparently the UK then this is our fault.

1081
00:56:12.719 --> 00:56:15.719
<v Speaker 5>The Tennessee players were basically saying that in the first

1082
00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:19.000
<v Speaker 5>two games, yeah, that we we That wasn't you know that?

1083
00:56:19.239 --> 00:56:24.039
<v Speaker 5>First of all, that's not and I'm paraphrasing, that's not Kentucky, right,

1084
00:56:24.119 --> 00:56:26.280
<v Speaker 5>They played out of their minds and we didn't play well,

1085
00:56:26.400 --> 00:56:29.239
<v Speaker 5>and we're a better team than them. Our response, and

1086
00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:31.719
<v Speaker 5>I'm not gonna mention which Kentucky which Kentucky players said this,

1087
00:56:31.840 --> 00:56:37.159
<v Speaker 5>but it made me cringe. A reporter asked them about

1088
00:56:37.239 --> 00:56:41.519
<v Speaker 5>those comments, and he said that's cute, and I'm like,

1089
00:56:41.760 --> 00:56:42.159
<v Speaker 5>oh my.

1090
00:56:42.239 --> 00:56:45.360
<v Speaker 1>God, oh dude, yeah, let's just just shut up.

1091
00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:48.719
<v Speaker 5>I don't understand this generations, and I hate to be

1092
00:56:48.840 --> 00:56:52.840
<v Speaker 5>the old man here, but just just here's here's here's

1093
00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:56.360
<v Speaker 5>how you become a national champion. In part. Every team

1094
00:56:56.440 --> 00:56:59.039
<v Speaker 5>you play, they can talk all the trash they want.

1095
00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:03.760
<v Speaker 5>Your response always is, look, they're a great team and

1096
00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:07.159
<v Speaker 5>we've got to play our best basketball. Tonight.

1097
00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I I that can't be your on core.

1098
00:57:10.239 --> 00:57:13.760
<v Speaker 1>I need I need why because you got to meet

1099
00:57:14.079 --> 00:57:14.519
<v Speaker 1>force with.

1100
00:57:14.599 --> 00:57:18.960
<v Speaker 5>Four No, you do not smack for is scoreboard.

1101
00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:21.199
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying, I know. I mean by playing

1102
00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:23.679
<v Speaker 1>your best, your best in and that's all you need

1103
00:57:23.760 --> 00:57:25.280
<v Speaker 1>and they're coming to you with everything that God, you

1104
00:57:25.360 --> 00:57:26.119
<v Speaker 1>gotta do the same thing.

1105
00:57:26.280 --> 00:57:27.599
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely.

1106
00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:30.519
<v Speaker 1>Now, uh, that might involve a little bit of attitude

1107
00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:32.599
<v Speaker 1>on the court, Brandon attitude, but that doesn't mean you

1108
00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:36.719
<v Speaker 1>talk it agreed. Brandon Garrison is up the line every

1109
00:57:36.760 --> 00:57:37.800
<v Speaker 1>now and then steps over it.

1110
00:57:38.039 --> 00:57:38.199
<v Speaker 4>You know.

1111
00:57:38.480 --> 00:57:41.719
<v Speaker 5>Well, I think sometimes what he does is Oklahoma game

1112
00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:45.360
<v Speaker 5>stands out where he just gets so excited, yes, and

1113
00:57:45.480 --> 00:57:49.400
<v Speaker 5>gets so pumped that, yeah, it kind of spills over sometimes.

1114
00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:53.840
<v Speaker 5>But I would argue that getting excited, getting pumped is fine,

1115
00:57:54.280 --> 00:57:55.280
<v Speaker 5>but don't let us spill over.

1116
00:57:55.400 --> 00:57:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Going back to your team, your ninety sixteen, which was

1117
00:57:58.039 --> 00:57:59.679
<v Speaker 1>in my mind, the greatest team in the history of

1118
00:57:59.760 --> 00:58:02.599
<v Speaker 1>modern dating back to of course.

1119
00:58:02.519 --> 00:58:03.519
<v Speaker 5>Yeah absolutely, yeah.

1120
00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Sorry.

1121
00:58:05.800 --> 00:58:08.880
<v Speaker 5>Somebody asked me, like to rank the championships of Kentucky

1122
00:58:09.400 --> 00:58:12.719
<v Speaker 5>and I put ninety eight dead last, and they thought, really,

1123
00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:17.199
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, yes, no one outside the team, even the

1124
00:58:17.400 --> 00:58:20.360
<v Speaker 5>diehard Kentucky fans truly expected us to do anything.

1125
00:58:20.119 --> 00:58:25.559
<v Speaker 1>That Anyhow, there was a nasty streak in that ninety

1126
00:58:25.599 --> 00:58:27.559
<v Speaker 1>sixteen I mean.

1127
00:58:29.440 --> 00:58:31.800
<v Speaker 5>But it wasn't a trash talking streak, no.

1128
00:58:32.199 --> 00:58:35.159
<v Speaker 1>No, but it was because you all were the Beatles,

1129
00:58:35.719 --> 00:58:37.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, Walter and all of them. Well, you know,

1130
00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:40.760
<v Speaker 1>and if you guys had the confidence, you knew how

1131
00:58:40.840 --> 00:58:41.440
<v Speaker 1>good you were.

1132
00:58:41.559 --> 00:58:45.920
<v Speaker 5>But remember, it was the reason we felt we were

1133
00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:49.360
<v Speaker 5>treated like the Beatles. Wasn't our UK fans because they're

1134
00:58:49.440 --> 00:58:52.519
<v Speaker 5>showing up no matter what, because they're just amazing. It's

1135
00:58:52.599 --> 00:58:55.800
<v Speaker 5>when the other team. Look. Caliperry noted this, and the

1136
00:58:55.960 --> 00:58:58.239
<v Speaker 5>and the media just got tired of hearing of it.

1137
00:58:58.280 --> 00:59:02.079
<v Speaker 5>I don't care. He's right. It is a super Bowl

1138
00:59:02.199 --> 00:59:05.239
<v Speaker 5>when Kentucky shows Sure it is. And it's still yeah,

1139
00:59:05.719 --> 00:59:08.000
<v Speaker 5>under the Gillespie era, it was still a super Bowl

1140
00:59:08.039 --> 00:59:10.360
<v Speaker 5>because and as they weren't playing that team, the Fantom

1141
00:59:10.480 --> 00:59:13.400
<v Speaker 5>Show were not necessarily because oh Mississippi State or Ole

1142
00:59:13.480 --> 00:59:16.880
<v Speaker 5>miss whoever, or Gardener, No, it's not. They're playing the

1143
00:59:16.960 --> 00:59:18.679
<v Speaker 5>tradition of Kentucky basketball.

1144
00:59:18.880 --> 00:59:22.840
<v Speaker 1>That's right. And as you all said in the dock,

1145
00:59:23.119 --> 00:59:25.920
<v Speaker 1>and the same thing happened with this Kentucky team just

1146
00:59:26.039 --> 00:59:28.400
<v Speaker 1>not as much. But no, you guys would show up

1147
00:59:29.079 --> 00:59:31.760
<v Speaker 1>on somebody else's court and we're gonna beat you, and

1148
00:59:31.880 --> 00:59:33.880
<v Speaker 1>you said it as well, we're gonna beat you and

1149
00:59:33.920 --> 00:59:36.039
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing you can do about it. But now this

1150
00:59:36.199 --> 00:59:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky team this year wasn't good enough to do that, right,

1151
00:59:40.280 --> 00:59:40.880
<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing.

1152
00:59:41.079 --> 00:59:44.119
<v Speaker 5>You got to aspire to that, yes, and and we

1153
00:59:44.239 --> 00:59:47.039
<v Speaker 5>did and we were able to and I think in part, look,

1154
00:59:47.639 --> 00:59:52.400
<v Speaker 5>talking trash comes comes solely from insecurity, solely from insecurity.

1155
00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:56.559
<v Speaker 5>If you know you're the better team, then just prove

1156
00:59:56.559 --> 00:59:57.239
<v Speaker 5>you're the better team.

1157
00:59:57.280 --> 00:59:57.639
<v Speaker 1>There you go.

1158
00:59:58.360 --> 01:00:00.840
<v Speaker 5>I mean, look, we literally had chance in high school.

1159
01:00:01.239 --> 01:00:02.480
<v Speaker 5>And I wasn't a part of him because I was

1160
01:00:02.519 --> 01:00:05.280
<v Speaker 5>playing ball, but it was it was basically and this

1161
01:00:05.440 --> 01:00:09.840
<v Speaker 5>was a student section, but they're their their their disrespectful

1162
01:00:09.960 --> 01:00:12.760
<v Speaker 5>chant was to have this rhyming thing where it was like,

1163
01:00:13.199 --> 01:00:15.440
<v Speaker 5>hey you talking about the other fans over there? Hey

1164
01:00:15.480 --> 01:00:18.480
<v Speaker 5>you over there to forward there it is check it out.

1165
01:00:18.559 --> 01:00:18.840
<v Speaker 1>That was it.

1166
01:00:18.960 --> 01:00:20.320
<v Speaker 5>That was it. That was all it was, and it

1167
01:00:20.440 --> 01:00:21.719
<v Speaker 5>was because that's all that matters.

1168
01:00:21.880 --> 01:00:25.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I loved Alan Edwards talking about how I was

1169
01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:27.719
<v Speaker 1>really was talking about ninety eighteen, but I'm sure they

1170
01:00:27.719 --> 01:00:30.480
<v Speaker 1>did in ninety six where they'd all be standing next

1171
01:00:30.519 --> 01:00:33.480
<v Speaker 1>to the opponents on the free throw line and someone

1172
01:00:33.519 --> 01:00:35.159
<v Speaker 1>would look up and say, God, you guys are still

1173
01:00:35.239 --> 01:00:38.079
<v Speaker 1>pressing no matter what the score.

1174
01:00:38.639 --> 01:00:42.280
<v Speaker 5>And uh and and ila, yep, I told you the

1175
01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:44.760
<v Speaker 5>story where a guy in this my senior year, we

1176
01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:46.960
<v Speaker 5>had runned in through their offense so many times they

1177
01:00:46.960 --> 01:00:50.800
<v Speaker 5>could and they yeah, and he's like doubled over, exhausted,

1178
01:00:50.840 --> 01:00:52.679
<v Speaker 5>and I'm standing up fresh as a dazy, which for

1179
01:00:52.760 --> 01:00:54.719
<v Speaker 5>me was crazy, but that's all due to Cutch FTEENO

1180
01:00:54.840 --> 01:00:57.039
<v Speaker 5>coach Smith, And I mean he's just exhausted because we

1181
01:00:57.119 --> 01:00:58.920
<v Speaker 5>ran them through their defense so many times that they

1182
01:00:58.960 --> 01:01:03.800
<v Speaker 5>could not get a shot. And he's like, you'll know

1183
01:01:03.880 --> 01:01:07.400
<v Speaker 5>our place better than we do. And I'm sitting there like, yeah,

1184
01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:08.559
<v Speaker 5>we studied him for three days.

1185
01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, and again, Pope can get to that.

1186
01:01:11.039 --> 01:01:11.920
<v Speaker 5>It's non intentional.

1187
01:01:12.440 --> 01:01:12.800
<v Speaker 1>That's right.

1188
01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:15.079
<v Speaker 5>You disrespect them by outplaying, That's right.

1189
01:01:15.360 --> 01:01:17.239
<v Speaker 1>We'll take it right. Come back and talk more Kentucky

1190
01:01:17.320 --> 01:01:19.400
<v Speaker 1>basketball with camera Mills here in the garage on six

1191
01:01:19.519 --> 01:01:22.760
<v Speaker 1>thirty wlap. Welcome back to the garage. Camera Mills is here.

1192
01:01:22.840 --> 01:01:26.039
<v Speaker 1>He popped on down the street and we're talking Kentucky basketball.

1193
01:01:26.079 --> 01:01:28.039
<v Speaker 1>Coming up in a few minutes, we'll talk about the

1194
01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:31.639
<v Speaker 1>boys sweet sixteen and future Wildcat Malachai Moreno. But as

1195
01:01:31.719 --> 01:01:33.639
<v Speaker 1>we kind of put a bowl on this season, we

1196
01:01:33.760 --> 01:01:36.519
<v Speaker 1>don't know right now. We know some of the portal

1197
01:01:36.639 --> 01:01:39.840
<v Speaker 1>traffic and things like that. But Pope's got to uh,

1198
01:01:40.360 --> 01:01:44.239
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily rebuild, but just kind of reconfigureous team. I mean,

1199
01:01:44.519 --> 01:01:46.159
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of openings on this roster.

1200
01:01:46.199 --> 01:01:48.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I was gonna say he's got a not rebuild

1201
01:01:48.840 --> 01:01:50.559
<v Speaker 5>in the sense of this is a rebuilding year because

1202
01:01:51.199 --> 01:01:51.679
<v Speaker 5>at Kentucky.

1203
01:01:51.800 --> 01:01:53.639
<v Speaker 1>But it's not an empty it's not a blank got

1204
01:01:53.719 --> 01:01:57.039
<v Speaker 1>to rebuild. It's not a blank slate. He's got that

1205
01:01:57.199 --> 01:02:01.239
<v Speaker 1>we know of Chandler, Noah Harry coming back. He's got

1206
01:02:01.280 --> 01:02:02.599
<v Speaker 1>the three freshmen coming in.

1207
01:02:03.159 --> 01:02:05.559
<v Speaker 5>Three freshmen with now, I mean a lot of freshmen

1208
01:02:05.599 --> 01:02:09.360
<v Speaker 5>experience that they that not that they that they shouldn't

1209
01:02:09.360 --> 01:02:11.519
<v Speaker 5>have gotten, not that they didn't deserve true if that

1210
01:02:11.599 --> 01:02:13.239
<v Speaker 5>makes sense, but that they were lucky to get because

1211
01:02:13.239 --> 01:02:14.000
<v Speaker 5>of Lamont's injuries.

1212
01:02:14.079 --> 01:02:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because of circumstance. And tonight nine pm you can

1213
01:02:16.920 --> 01:02:20.159
<v Speaker 1>watch Malechi Moreno and the McDonald's all American. Oh yeah, yeah,

1214
01:02:20.199 --> 01:02:23.280
<v Speaker 1>but we'll double back to him in a moment. What

1215
01:02:23.400 --> 01:02:26.840
<v Speaker 1>do you think Mark Pope learned this year putting a

1216
01:02:26.960 --> 01:02:30.920
<v Speaker 1>team together that will serve him next year because he's

1217
01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:34.559
<v Speaker 1>had to coach and put a roster together at Kentucky.

1218
01:02:34.639 --> 01:02:36.599
<v Speaker 5>He never had to do this in Jutah Valley State

1219
01:02:36.719 --> 01:02:40.400
<v Speaker 5>or bring him up right, Well, I hadn't thought about that,

1220
01:02:41.280 --> 01:02:44.320
<v Speaker 5>and that being the case, it just just one more

1221
01:02:45.679 --> 01:02:48.239
<v Speaker 5>We're so freaking lucky to have this guy that he

1222
01:02:48.440 --> 01:02:50.159
<v Speaker 5>did that in first of all, not only that he

1223
01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:53.519
<v Speaker 5>did that, that he was able to hit the road,

1224
01:02:53.920 --> 01:02:57.800
<v Speaker 5>make evaluations, decide who he wanted not just basketball wise,

1225
01:02:57.840 --> 01:03:01.400
<v Speaker 5>but headspace wise, and banned with wise who's best for

1226
01:03:01.519 --> 01:03:06.119
<v Speaker 5>my offense? He did that seven days behind every other

1227
01:03:06.159 --> 01:03:12.079
<v Speaker 5>coaching division at least. And that's where look, and I

1228
01:03:12.239 --> 01:03:14.440
<v Speaker 5>never had a problem with Cali Perry anything he did

1229
01:03:14.559 --> 01:03:18.000
<v Speaker 5>other than greatest night of college basketball or Kentucky history

1230
01:03:18.039 --> 01:03:20.400
<v Speaker 5>when they got six guys drafted. That that rubbed me wrong.

1231
01:03:20.519 --> 01:03:22.639
<v Speaker 1>That was his first what about we don't care about

1232
01:03:22.639 --> 01:03:23.679
<v Speaker 1>the SEC champion.

1233
01:03:23.719 --> 01:03:25.920
<v Speaker 5>I don't care about this SEC champions. I mean, I look,

1234
01:03:26.079 --> 01:03:28.800
<v Speaker 5>I know fans do, and I want if we're going

1235
01:03:28.880 --> 01:03:32.760
<v Speaker 5>to go, we better win. But okay, we don't hang

1236
01:03:32.840 --> 01:03:35.679
<v Speaker 5>banners for SEC championship games, So explain to me how

1237
01:03:35.719 --> 01:03:44.599
<v Speaker 5>it really matters. So anyway, the the fact that he

1238
01:03:44.719 --> 01:03:46.880
<v Speaker 5>was able to do that, calib Perry left a week

1239
01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:49.480
<v Speaker 5>after he say he was gonna stay basically, and now

1240
01:03:49.480 --> 01:03:52.079
<v Speaker 5>we got to go hire a coach. That takes what

1241
01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:55.119
<v Speaker 5>a week? Then we got to go that coach has

1242
01:03:55.199 --> 01:03:58.960
<v Speaker 5>to get here, do his press conference, hire his staff.

1243
01:03:59.599 --> 01:04:02.320
<v Speaker 5>That's that has to get to work as a team.

1244
01:04:02.400 --> 01:04:05.400
<v Speaker 5>Let's evaluate who we want, who's in the portal. Then

1245
01:04:05.400 --> 01:04:08.159
<v Speaker 5>we gotta go get them, get who we want and

1246
01:04:08.280 --> 01:04:11.400
<v Speaker 5>then have our secondary options, our tertiary options, and then

1247
01:04:11.880 --> 01:04:16.559
<v Speaker 5>put together this team and then in one year get

1248
01:04:16.599 --> 01:04:20.199
<v Speaker 5>them to understand he infigures offense, he and coach Brooks

1249
01:04:20.280 --> 01:04:25.960
<v Speaker 5>defense and just and then gel them. I mean, this

1250
01:04:26.239 --> 01:04:29.079
<v Speaker 5>was his learning year, right, and it seems to me

1251
01:04:30.119 --> 01:04:33.440
<v Speaker 5>he hates to test. Yes, I mean, so I'm not

1252
01:04:33.519 --> 01:04:36.320
<v Speaker 5>saying he didn't learn things from last year, because that's

1253
01:04:36.679 --> 01:04:39.960
<v Speaker 5>that's to me, that's what a Mark Pope would do

1254
01:04:40.280 --> 01:04:43.440
<v Speaker 5>in his genius is you learn from your past. I mean,

1255
01:04:43.480 --> 01:04:45.320
<v Speaker 5>I know it's a simple thing to say, but a

1256
01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:49.199
<v Speaker 5>lot of people, including myself sometimes don't do that. So

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01:04:49.320 --> 01:04:50.920
<v Speaker 5>I think, I think there's a lot and I think,

1258
01:04:51.159 --> 01:04:53.239
<v Speaker 5>and this is what I love. And I wanted to

1259
01:04:53.480 --> 01:04:56.079
<v Speaker 5>tweet this the night of the of the Tennessee loss,

1260
01:04:58.039 --> 01:05:01.119
<v Speaker 5>but I wasn't one hundred percent sure it was happening,

1261
01:05:01.199 --> 01:05:05.679
<v Speaker 5>because how would I know. But I wanted to tweet

1262
01:05:05.760 --> 01:05:08.760
<v Speaker 5>something to the fact of And I did this, you know,

1263
01:05:09.079 --> 01:05:11.239
<v Speaker 5>to the guys, to the team. They're never gonna read.

1264
01:05:11.239 --> 01:05:14.440
<v Speaker 5>It doesn't matter, but thank you all for giving us

1265
01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:18.599
<v Speaker 5>a year that we fairly fairly should never have expected.

1266
01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:21.960
<v Speaker 5>And uh. And then I wanted to add on there

1267
01:05:22.440 --> 01:05:24.760
<v Speaker 5>uh something to Mark, which again that would have been

1268
01:05:24.800 --> 01:05:26.800
<v Speaker 5>for just you know, I could have texted Mark and

1269
01:05:26.840 --> 01:05:31.920
<v Speaker 5>said this if I wanted to, but but I believed

1270
01:05:32.480 --> 01:05:34.639
<v Speaker 5>at the time, and I just knew this was true.

1271
01:05:36.599 --> 01:05:39.880
<v Speaker 5>The next day after Tennessee loss, maybe even that night

1272
01:05:39.960 --> 01:05:43.519
<v Speaker 5>he was on the phone with portal. Sure, yeah, didn't

1273
01:05:43.559 --> 01:05:45.079
<v Speaker 5>take And and to be fair to a lot of

1274
01:05:45.079 --> 01:05:47.480
<v Speaker 5>college coaches, this is this is look I want. I

1275
01:05:48.239 --> 01:05:51.119
<v Speaker 5>wanted the portal, but we got to fix the portal

1276
01:05:51.559 --> 01:05:56.360
<v Speaker 5>because we cannot have h we can't have guys just

1277
01:05:56.559 --> 01:06:00.320
<v Speaker 5>every year. I mean, it's just there's there's Basically, it's

1278
01:06:00.400 --> 01:06:03.400
<v Speaker 5>it's what Kentucky fans were frustrated by under Cali Perry.

1279
01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:05.159
<v Speaker 5>I don't feel like we ever get to know these players.

1280
01:06:05.719 --> 01:06:07.480
<v Speaker 5>No one's going to get to know their players. Which

1281
01:06:07.719 --> 01:06:09.599
<v Speaker 5>is it ultimately well, I guess it would be in

1282
01:06:09.639 --> 01:06:12.400
<v Speaker 5>partly important college basketball. But you just can't have the

1283
01:06:12.440 --> 01:06:15.039
<v Speaker 5>free for all because here's the deal, the coaches. The

1284
01:06:15.079 --> 01:06:16.760
<v Speaker 5>reason I wanted, the reason I wanted the portal to

1285
01:06:16.920 --> 01:06:20.159
<v Speaker 5>exist is I wanted the players to have the freedom

1286
01:06:20.400 --> 01:06:23.039
<v Speaker 5>to move the way the coaches do. However, the coaches

1287
01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:26.000
<v Speaker 5>aren't changing schools every year, correct, So the players need

1288
01:06:26.119 --> 01:06:29.639
<v Speaker 5>to have one free transfer and then after that, Yes,

1289
01:06:29.920 --> 01:06:32.719
<v Speaker 5>now you're sitting out a year. I agree because the

1290
01:06:33.159 --> 01:06:37.960
<v Speaker 5>curR thing. And I get why chrisa. I get I'm

1291
01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:41.079
<v Speaker 5>surprised to going back to a team he's already been to, right,

1292
01:06:42.719 --> 01:06:46.920
<v Speaker 5>But and I get why because he's probably feeling because

1293
01:06:46.920 --> 01:06:48.559
<v Speaker 5>the first thing we think is, oh, you don't like us.

1294
01:06:48.880 --> 01:06:51.039
<v Speaker 5>It becomes high it becomes playground stuff you don't you

1295
01:06:51.039 --> 01:06:53.199
<v Speaker 5>don't like, you didn't like it here? But no, I mean,

1296
01:06:53.360 --> 01:06:56.679
<v Speaker 5>it's it's all right. Look at coach. Look who coach

1297
01:06:56.760 --> 01:06:58.079
<v Speaker 5>is going to go? Get off the portal, Am I

1298
01:06:58.199 --> 01:07:00.199
<v Speaker 5>gonna and then we got freshman that got playing time

1299
01:07:00.239 --> 01:07:02.000
<v Speaker 5>this year that we're in his position. Am I going

1300
01:07:02.079 --> 01:07:03.199
<v Speaker 5>to be the point guard next year?

1301
01:07:03.679 --> 01:07:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Right?

1302
01:07:03.920 --> 01:07:05.840
<v Speaker 5>He's got to be looking at that and saying, I

1303
01:07:05.960 --> 01:07:08.880
<v Speaker 5>don't know now. In the old days, that was and

1304
01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:10.880
<v Speaker 5>it still is a good thing, but we don't see anymore.

1305
01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:12.400
<v Speaker 5>The old days, you'd have a player that said, Okay,

1306
01:07:12.400 --> 01:07:15.400
<v Speaker 5>if I want to be the guy next year, I

1307
01:07:15.519 --> 01:07:17.800
<v Speaker 5>better be in the gym every day this summer. And

1308
01:07:17.880 --> 01:07:20.960
<v Speaker 5>now you can just say I'll find a team that

1309
01:07:20.960 --> 01:07:21.400
<v Speaker 5>will now.

1310
01:07:21.519 --> 01:07:24.400
<v Speaker 1>Where I will be somebody who likes me, or someone

1311
01:07:24.440 --> 01:07:24.880
<v Speaker 1>who will.

1312
01:07:24.719 --> 01:07:27.719
<v Speaker 5>Play me more, or someone who, yeah, like me more.

1313
01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:31.880
<v Speaker 5>Is your coach better not like you? He better love you,

1314
01:07:32.239 --> 01:07:34.880
<v Speaker 5>but he shouldn't like you? Oh wow, Well, I mean

1315
01:07:35.159 --> 01:07:38.639
<v Speaker 5>you think coach p liked me? No, first of all,

1316
01:07:38.639 --> 01:07:39.480
<v Speaker 5>I thought he hates I just.

1317
01:07:39.519 --> 01:07:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Don't see Mark Polpe coaching that.

1318
01:07:41.440 --> 01:07:42.760
<v Speaker 5>Well. Oh no, No, it's not a matter of how

1319
01:07:42.800 --> 01:07:45.079
<v Speaker 5>you know. It's what I'm saying. It's not a matter

1320
01:07:45.079 --> 01:07:46.440
<v Speaker 5>of how the coach coaches you. It's a matter of

1321
01:07:46.480 --> 01:07:49.639
<v Speaker 5>how you feel about how the coach coaches you. So again,

1322
01:07:50.000 --> 01:07:51.559
<v Speaker 5>I thought, and I told you this off air, a

1323
01:07:51.599 --> 01:07:55.199
<v Speaker 5>few minutes ago. I truly this is this is not exaggeration, Okay,

1324
01:07:55.800 --> 01:08:01.039
<v Speaker 5>I truly thought that this Italian from New York was

1325
01:08:01.159 --> 01:08:03.440
<v Speaker 5>gonna kill me in my sleep one night. I mean

1326
01:08:03.840 --> 01:08:07.639
<v Speaker 5>he was so angry at me sometimes in practice, and

1327
01:08:08.039 --> 01:08:09.800
<v Speaker 5>I had to learn, as we all had to learn

1328
01:08:09.880 --> 01:08:14.039
<v Speaker 5>that the genius of Rick Patino is that he will

1329
01:08:14.440 --> 01:08:19.239
<v Speaker 5>scuer you in thirty seconds, undress you in thirty seconds,

1330
01:08:19.279 --> 01:08:21.760
<v Speaker 5>which is particularly hard when you're in the locker room

1331
01:08:21.800 --> 01:08:24.159
<v Speaker 5>after a shower and you're already undressed, and then he

1332
01:08:24.279 --> 01:08:28.720
<v Speaker 5>undresses you more in front of your teammates. And let

1333
01:08:28.720 --> 01:08:31.520
<v Speaker 5>me look, it is hard to take that. I mean,

1334
01:08:31.600 --> 01:08:35.920
<v Speaker 5>you just no choice. Well, there's a choice. You can quit,

1335
01:08:36.159 --> 01:08:39.279
<v Speaker 5>which I tried to five times my freshman year. But

1336
01:08:40.680 --> 01:08:43.159
<v Speaker 5>you learned very quickly. The genius of Rick Patino is

1337
01:08:43.199 --> 01:08:46.960
<v Speaker 5>that he has no doghouse, which means one memory. Oh

1338
01:08:47.199 --> 01:08:48.119
<v Speaker 5>my gosh, it's so short.

1339
01:08:48.239 --> 01:08:48.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1340
01:08:48.920 --> 01:08:53.760
<v Speaker 5>Now, some stuff comes up later, but it's not about you.

1341
01:08:53.920 --> 01:08:58.079
<v Speaker 5>It's about another player in that sense. But he has

1342
01:08:58.159 --> 01:09:00.800
<v Speaker 5>no doghouse, and the moment he's done yelling at you,

1343
01:09:02.840 --> 01:09:06.039
<v Speaker 5>he will forget about it. Yeah, and expects this is

1344
01:09:06.079 --> 01:09:08.319
<v Speaker 5>the more important part. Expects you to forget about it.

1345
01:09:08.920 --> 01:09:12.960
<v Speaker 5>Learn the lesson here here the message. Don't worry about

1346
01:09:12.960 --> 01:09:14.880
<v Speaker 5>how it was said, because how it was said is

1347
01:09:15.039 --> 01:09:17.239
<v Speaker 5>not intentional. It might be intentional, but it's not personal.

1348
01:09:17.960 --> 01:09:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Camera Mills in the garage. When we come back, we

1349
01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:23.760
<v Speaker 1>will talk about future Wildcat, Malachi Moreno and others as

1350
01:09:23.840 --> 01:09:26.359
<v Speaker 1>we wrap up this Kentucky basketball season. I mean, it

1351
01:09:26.439 --> 01:09:29.760
<v Speaker 1>never fully is wrapped up, but it just ended a

1352
01:09:29.800 --> 01:09:33.199
<v Speaker 1>little too soon for us for our liking. But oh yes, yeah,

1353
01:09:33.560 --> 01:09:35.960
<v Speaker 1>but there's more to come on the Big Boone Sider

1354
01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:38.079
<v Speaker 1>six thirty. Welcome back to the garage where we find

1355
01:09:38.159 --> 01:09:41.399
<v Speaker 1>Camera Mills of the UK network, the ex Wildcat. Well,

1356
01:09:41.399 --> 01:09:45.000
<v Speaker 1>once a wildcat, always a wildcat. But I'm just wonder

1357
01:09:45.159 --> 01:09:48.000
<v Speaker 1>when that's right wandering down the street. So, as promised,

1358
01:09:49.039 --> 01:09:51.680
<v Speaker 1>we will talk about Malachi Moreno and the yeah scene.

1359
01:09:52.439 --> 01:09:54.600
<v Speaker 1>I've been to the Sweet sixteen off and off for

1360
01:09:54.640 --> 01:09:56.840
<v Speaker 1>the last many years. Haven't had a chance to work

1361
01:09:56.920 --> 01:09:58.840
<v Speaker 1>it in so long. You have been a part of

1362
01:09:58.960 --> 01:10:01.520
<v Speaker 1>the radio network now two. That's amazing.

1363
01:10:01.560 --> 01:10:02.359
<v Speaker 5>I think so too.

1364
01:10:03.239 --> 01:10:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I thought this one was particularly good because there was

1365
01:10:06.039 --> 01:10:08.960
<v Speaker 1>a dearth of blowouts. There were a couple, I'm sure

1366
01:10:09.119 --> 01:10:15.680
<v Speaker 1>dearth yes, not many. Uh so, not a plethora, correct,

1367
01:10:15.720 --> 01:10:16.920
<v Speaker 1>there you go another good one.

1368
01:10:16.920 --> 01:10:19.439
<v Speaker 5>The opposite of a player, correct, because the three of

1369
01:10:19.520 --> 01:10:20.840
<v Speaker 5>me goes let's that's true.

1370
01:10:22.159 --> 01:10:24.760
<v Speaker 1>But one of the players that that of course we

1371
01:10:24.880 --> 01:10:27.840
<v Speaker 1>all eyeballed. And you worked the championship game with Greg Stottleman.

1372
01:10:28.039 --> 01:10:29.319
<v Speaker 5>I worked like three of his games.

1373
01:10:29.359 --> 01:10:31.520
<v Speaker 1>You sure did, crossing, well, you and I did. One

1374
01:10:31.560 --> 01:10:34.800
<v Speaker 1>of them, that's right. Was was Malchi Moreno, who I

1375
01:10:34.960 --> 01:10:38.800
<v Speaker 1>believe has improved from last year to this massively. All right,

1376
01:10:38.840 --> 01:10:39.960
<v Speaker 1>tell me why? Massively?

1377
01:10:40.319 --> 01:10:44.399
<v Speaker 5>He's stronger, he's smarter around the basket, still with some

1378
01:10:44.520 --> 01:10:46.359
<v Speaker 5>things to work on. Which stupid thing?

1379
01:10:46.640 --> 01:10:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Smarter? How how do you see that?

1380
01:10:48.319 --> 01:10:51.760
<v Speaker 5>Well, one of the things I wanted so so. First

1381
01:10:51.760 --> 01:10:53.720
<v Speaker 5>of all, he can shoot from the outside.

1382
01:10:53.479 --> 01:10:54.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, free.

1383
01:10:55.880 --> 01:10:57.239
<v Speaker 5>And it was just that he hit a three, because

1384
01:10:57.239 --> 01:10:59.840
<v Speaker 5>really he's only taken three all year, eleven all year

1385
01:11:00.520 --> 01:11:02.920
<v Speaker 5>only hit Maybe it can be right three for eleven,

1386
01:11:03.039 --> 01:11:05.560
<v Speaker 5>trust me, okay, all right, you would know. But in

1387
01:11:05.640 --> 01:11:09.359
<v Speaker 5>sweet sixteen he shows up good and and you I

1388
01:11:09.359 --> 01:11:10.800
<v Speaker 5>think you had just interview him because I think it's

1389
01:11:10.800 --> 01:11:13.319
<v Speaker 5>one of the games we called. Maybe it's just early

1390
01:11:13.399 --> 01:11:15.680
<v Speaker 5>in the first quarter and the ball's rotated he's coming

1391
01:11:15.720 --> 01:11:18.439
<v Speaker 5>back trailing, his man hadn't picked him up. His man's

1392
01:11:18.479 --> 01:11:20.680
<v Speaker 5>way down in the lane where he expected Malachi to be,

1393
01:11:21.239 --> 01:11:23.960
<v Speaker 5>and and the ball swings. Malachi doesn't have a dude

1394
01:11:24.039 --> 01:11:25.520
<v Speaker 5>within twenty feet of him, and he's at the top

1395
01:11:25.560 --> 01:11:28.840
<v Speaker 5>of the key and without hesitating or even thinking about it,

1396
01:11:29.359 --> 01:11:33.359
<v Speaker 5>catches shoots splash money. I mean, just you know, so

1397
01:11:33.560 --> 01:11:36.960
<v Speaker 5>he's improved that, so he is stronger, and this, this

1398
01:11:37.079 --> 01:11:38.279
<v Speaker 5>is what I like. Now, this is one thing that

1399
01:11:38.319 --> 01:11:41.439
<v Speaker 5>he still can improve on. But I noticed a big

1400
01:11:41.520 --> 01:11:44.119
<v Speaker 5>difference in this particular part from last year this year,

1401
01:11:44.479 --> 01:11:47.079
<v Speaker 5>and that is he's not trying to block every shot.

1402
01:11:48.239 --> 01:11:50.960
<v Speaker 5>Because if you go up as a as a seven

1403
01:11:51.039 --> 01:11:53.640
<v Speaker 5>foot one playing playing a bunch of guys that are

1404
01:11:53.680 --> 01:11:57.000
<v Speaker 5>six foot one at the most six foot five, I

1405
01:11:57.159 --> 01:12:01.760
<v Speaker 5>think maybe it's a field day in your mind. Especially

1406
01:12:01.760 --> 01:12:03.680
<v Speaker 5>it's a field day. I can block any show anybody

1407
01:12:03.760 --> 01:12:07.119
<v Speaker 5>comes in this lane. I got this right. But what

1408
01:12:07.279 --> 01:12:09.279
<v Speaker 5>he didn't understand, and I make this part of what

1409
01:12:09.319 --> 01:12:11.479
<v Speaker 5>he didn't understand last year. What I presumed to understand

1410
01:12:11.560 --> 01:12:15.520
<v Speaker 5>is that dude, you're seven foot one, you don't have

1411
01:12:15.640 --> 01:12:19.520
<v Speaker 5>to even block a shot without massively affecting.

1412
01:12:19.239 --> 01:12:20.760
<v Speaker 1>To show yourself.

1413
01:12:21.760 --> 01:12:22.560
<v Speaker 5>Walk on the court.

1414
01:12:22.640 --> 01:12:26.000
<v Speaker 1>That's right. And you know what, that's what happened with

1415
01:12:26.079 --> 01:12:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Bowling Green and those kids had made a living and

1416
01:12:28.079 --> 01:12:31.680
<v Speaker 1>did a superb job of getting to the championship game

1417
01:12:31.760 --> 01:12:32.760
<v Speaker 1>by getting to the rim.

1418
01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:36.720
<v Speaker 5>Yes, by straight long, straight line drives, which they used

1419
01:12:36.760 --> 01:12:38.079
<v Speaker 5>that all the time. And I was sorry and my

1420
01:12:38.199 --> 01:12:40.199
<v Speaker 5>stupid I say, what do you mean straight long drive?

1421
01:12:40.279 --> 01:12:41.800
<v Speaker 5>Well it means you go buy your mane, you go

1422
01:12:41.880 --> 01:12:44.119
<v Speaker 5>right to the basket. Well we called we called that

1423
01:12:44.199 --> 01:12:46.199
<v Speaker 5>body to body like when you're when you're going against

1424
01:12:46.239 --> 01:12:48.840
<v Speaker 5>the defender. What most people do before they learned this

1425
01:12:49.039 --> 01:12:52.720
<v Speaker 5>this lesson is you drive you in order to get

1426
01:12:52.760 --> 01:12:54.880
<v Speaker 5>by your man on a one on one move. You

1427
01:12:55.079 --> 01:12:57.640
<v Speaker 5>wind up because you don't want to draw charge or

1428
01:12:57.680 --> 01:13:00.760
<v Speaker 5>because it's not just innate, and you you drive, you

1429
01:13:00.920 --> 01:13:03.439
<v Speaker 5>angle yep, and then try to turn back to the basket. No, no,

1430
01:13:04.079 --> 01:13:06.680
<v Speaker 5>you go you rub your shoulder directly off their shoulder

1431
01:13:06.760 --> 01:13:09.119
<v Speaker 5>and they're in jail now and you're done. The game's over.

1432
01:13:09.359 --> 01:13:11.640
<v Speaker 1>So that's that's how they got to the championship game.

1433
01:13:11.720 --> 01:13:16.800
<v Speaker 5>Oh my gosh, nobody could stop them until now they

1434
01:13:16.920 --> 01:13:19.600
<v Speaker 5>know in their head, if we get to the lane,

1435
01:13:20.079 --> 01:13:22.000
<v Speaker 5>we got another problem. We can have our man in

1436
01:13:22.079 --> 01:13:25.680
<v Speaker 5>jail behind us, but we've got we got somebody else

1437
01:13:25.720 --> 01:13:28.640
<v Speaker 5>in front of us. And Malachi just I mean he

1438
01:13:29.079 --> 01:13:31.239
<v Speaker 5>picked his moments like, look, if if he had to

1439
01:13:31.279 --> 01:13:33.560
<v Speaker 5>block a shot and could block a shot, he not

1440
01:13:33.680 --> 01:13:36.359
<v Speaker 5>only blocked it, he volleyballed into the backboard.

1441
01:13:36.960 --> 01:13:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Kept it alive.

1442
01:13:37.640 --> 01:13:39.920
<v Speaker 5>He had I mean, he had seven blocks in the

1443
01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:42.000
<v Speaker 5>first half of one of the games. I think you

1444
01:13:42.079 --> 01:13:45.079
<v Speaker 5>wound up with seven for the game because they didn't eat.

1445
01:13:45.079 --> 01:13:48.560
<v Speaker 5>There's altered twice as many that and not just and

1446
01:13:48.760 --> 01:13:53.920
<v Speaker 5>and then affected the mentality of the whole game because

1447
01:13:54.000 --> 01:13:58.319
<v Speaker 5>I every game I called guy, the ball would get

1448
01:13:58.359 --> 01:14:00.479
<v Speaker 5>in the lane, and and however I got in the lane,

1449
01:14:00.479 --> 01:14:03.079
<v Speaker 5>whether it was passed, whether it was you know, fumbled

1450
01:14:03.159 --> 01:14:05.520
<v Speaker 5>and then an offensive got picked it up, or whether

1451
01:14:05.640 --> 01:14:12.159
<v Speaker 5>it was passing the lane. And almost every time ninety

1452
01:14:12.199 --> 01:14:14.960
<v Speaker 5>percent of the time, the guys wouldn't even look at

1453
01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:17.079
<v Speaker 5>the basket because they knew what was standing behind them.

1454
01:14:17.319 --> 01:14:18.840
<v Speaker 5>So it was like, all right, well we got the

1455
01:14:18.880 --> 01:14:21.039
<v Speaker 5>ball in the lane. So here's the difference. So when

1456
01:14:21.079 --> 01:14:23.439
<v Speaker 5>you've got somebody like Malachi and the ball gets in

1457
01:14:23.479 --> 01:14:26.680
<v Speaker 5>the lane, the defense doesn't collapse, right, So when the

1458
01:14:26.760 --> 01:14:29.239
<v Speaker 5>defense doesn't collapse. Doesn't do you a lot of good

1459
01:14:29.319 --> 01:14:30.960
<v Speaker 5>to get in the lane unless you're gonna get a shot,

1460
01:14:31.239 --> 01:14:36.159
<v Speaker 5>and you're not gonna get a good shot because you're

1461
01:14:36.199 --> 01:14:38.000
<v Speaker 5>afraid it might get pitched three feet out of bounds

1462
01:14:38.119 --> 01:14:40.680
<v Speaker 5>or three rows out of bounds. And so I think

1463
01:14:40.720 --> 01:14:42.520
<v Speaker 5>he needs I think he can needs to continue learn

1464
01:14:42.560 --> 01:14:45.840
<v Speaker 5>about that. You do not have to block every shot. Now,

1465
01:14:46.239 --> 01:14:49.760
<v Speaker 5>next year it'll be different, but at this level, dude,

1466
01:14:49.880 --> 01:14:52.000
<v Speaker 5>just just stand back there. And the other thing is

1467
01:14:52.880 --> 01:14:56.359
<v Speaker 5>in the same vein, is that a lot of times,

1468
01:14:56.439 --> 01:14:58.520
<v Speaker 5>even this year, he would go after shots he had

1469
01:14:58.560 --> 01:15:01.920
<v Speaker 5>no chance of blocking. And the problem with that is

1470
01:15:02.159 --> 01:15:05.079
<v Speaker 5>is that that puts you in a poor position of

1471
01:15:05.199 --> 01:15:09.800
<v Speaker 5>rebounding the ball. And Malachi obviously gathered up the line's

1472
01:15:09.800 --> 01:15:11.520
<v Speaker 5>share of the rebounds that were available. So there were

1473
01:15:11.520 --> 01:15:13.439
<v Speaker 5>so many times when I saw him pursue a ball

1474
01:15:14.039 --> 01:15:16.359
<v Speaker 5>and that puts him out of the lane or out

1475
01:15:16.399 --> 01:15:20.399
<v Speaker 5>of position when that shot because they knew you were

1476
01:15:20.479 --> 01:15:22.800
<v Speaker 5>back there, there was a little chance that shot was

1477
01:15:22.840 --> 01:15:24.960
<v Speaker 5>going in anyway, right, And I know in the game

1478
01:15:25.000 --> 01:15:26.399
<v Speaker 5>you don't want to take that chance. I get it,

1479
01:15:26.680 --> 01:15:30.840
<v Speaker 5>But they're throwing up bad shots because you're standing there,

1480
01:15:31.319 --> 01:15:34.359
<v Speaker 5>so if you go up and try to block it, well,

1481
01:15:34.439 --> 01:15:38.439
<v Speaker 5>Now the biggest rebounding factor in this game is not

1482
01:15:38.560 --> 01:15:41.840
<v Speaker 5>in a position to rebound, and it happened so many

1483
01:15:41.920 --> 01:15:44.000
<v Speaker 5>times and not only.

1484
01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Lost to Lion County last year in a semi final.

1485
01:15:46.840 --> 01:15:50.760
<v Speaker 5>There's the improvement. I just so, I think that's smarter.

1486
01:15:50.920 --> 01:15:53.520
<v Speaker 5>Now again, it's still an issue, but I think it's smarter.

1487
01:15:53.840 --> 01:15:55.720
<v Speaker 5>Here's the best thing about Malachi. And I don't know

1488
01:15:55.720 --> 01:15:58.239
<v Speaker 5>if this is an improvement because I think this is

1489
01:15:58.439 --> 01:16:02.640
<v Speaker 5>just who the Merinos are because Michael his brother, Yes,

1490
01:16:02.800 --> 01:16:06.000
<v Speaker 5>exact same way, excellent player, Yes, oh yeah, he went

1491
01:16:06.119 --> 01:16:08.479
<v Speaker 5>went to the Sweet sixteen final final game two years

1492
01:16:08.479 --> 01:16:10.680
<v Speaker 5>in a row and lost. I mean I fill a

1493
01:16:10.720 --> 01:16:15.199
<v Speaker 5>kinship with him for that reason. Two of the kindest,

1494
01:16:15.800 --> 01:16:21.520
<v Speaker 5>nicest young people I think I've ever met. Malachi in particular,

1495
01:16:21.800 --> 01:16:24.560
<v Speaker 5>was frustrating as a You'll be proud of me as

1496
01:16:24.560 --> 01:16:31.239
<v Speaker 5>a media member because we could not get him postgame interviews,

1497
01:16:31.600 --> 01:16:33.279
<v Speaker 5>you know that kind of stuff. Could not get him

1498
01:16:33.279 --> 01:16:35.520
<v Speaker 5>talking about himself. No, he will not talk about himself.

1499
01:16:36.359 --> 01:16:38.600
<v Speaker 5>I mean, he's got this thing he kept saying, and

1500
01:16:38.680 --> 01:16:42.399
<v Speaker 5>I kept I got tired of hearing this. Everybody everybody's

1501
01:16:42.399 --> 01:16:44.720
<v Speaker 5>got to eat. Yeah, I want to feed everybody.

1502
01:16:45.079 --> 01:16:46.640
<v Speaker 1>And that they ran their offense.

1503
01:16:46.960 --> 01:16:49.079
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, Malachi didn't need the ball in his hands

1504
01:16:49.479 --> 01:16:51.800
<v Speaker 5>because because what I think, what Malachi knew is number one.

1505
01:16:51.800 --> 01:16:53.840
<v Speaker 5>I don't think he cared and and his coach even

1506
01:16:53.880 --> 01:16:56.359
<v Speaker 5>said this, and I truly believe this is true for Malachi.

1507
01:16:57.640 --> 01:17:00.000
<v Speaker 5>I don't care if I scored zero points, get zero rebounds,

1508
01:17:00.079 --> 01:17:03.680
<v Speaker 5>zero sists, do nothing. I want my team to win.

1509
01:17:04.000 --> 01:17:07.760
<v Speaker 1>And what did he do the moment the game was over.

1510
01:17:09.560 --> 01:17:12.399
<v Speaker 1>He celebrated on the court briefly with his with his team. Yeah.

1511
01:17:12.399 --> 01:17:14.000
<v Speaker 5>I didn't catch this because we were still wrapping up.

1512
01:17:14.000 --> 01:17:16.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh you were stilling there this right? Yeah, he ran,

1513
01:17:16.239 --> 01:17:20.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean sprinted right past me and climbed up and

1514
01:17:20.439 --> 01:17:24.479
<v Speaker 1>there were stairs, but climbed up and celebrated.

1515
01:17:24.119 --> 01:17:25.039
<v Speaker 5>And with the students.

1516
01:17:25.119 --> 01:17:27.039
<v Speaker 1>With the students, I posted a photo.

1517
01:17:27.199 --> 01:17:30.079
<v Speaker 5>What's funny is is that we saw that happening. I

1518
01:17:30.279 --> 01:17:32.479
<v Speaker 5>at the time, when I looked up, I didn't see Malachi. Now,

1519
01:17:32.600 --> 01:17:34.760
<v Speaker 5>I had no doubt Malachi was on his way, because that,

1520
01:17:34.880 --> 01:17:36.279
<v Speaker 5>of course is something Malachi would do.

1521
01:17:37.560 --> 01:17:40.560
<v Speaker 1>But I've never seen that. I've never in the sweet sixteen,

1522
01:17:41.079 --> 01:17:43.560
<v Speaker 1>I've seen I've seen kids celebrate with people. I've seen

1523
01:17:43.760 --> 01:17:45.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've never seen it seen a kid. I've

1524
01:17:45.640 --> 01:17:47.680
<v Speaker 1>seen a kid go for his parents. I thought that's

1525
01:17:47.720 --> 01:17:49.960
<v Speaker 1>what he was doing. No, he was in the middle

1526
01:17:50.079 --> 01:17:51.079
<v Speaker 1>of the student body.

1527
01:17:51.800 --> 01:17:53.760
<v Speaker 5>You're the one that told me, and you know this

1528
01:17:53.960 --> 01:17:58.680
<v Speaker 5>because of Kate, my daughter, is that that team and

1529
01:17:58.880 --> 01:18:02.399
<v Speaker 5>the key members of that team, Malachi and Dawson.

1530
01:18:03.159 --> 01:18:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Then thank you.

1531
01:18:04.960 --> 01:18:09.399
<v Speaker 5>See I forget, forgot what do they what?

1532
01:18:09.600 --> 01:18:09.640
<v Speaker 3>What?

1533
01:18:10.159 --> 01:18:10.199
<v Speaker 7>What?

1534
01:18:10.359 --> 01:18:13.560
<v Speaker 5>What is one of their what is one of their hobbies?

1535
01:18:15.239 --> 01:18:16.399
<v Speaker 1>Hobbies? Are activities?

1536
01:18:16.479 --> 01:18:16.840
<v Speaker 5>Same thing?

1537
01:18:16.960 --> 01:18:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, I know that that they help out with my

1538
01:18:20.159 --> 01:18:22.279
<v Speaker 1>daughter's special children.

1539
01:18:22.319 --> 01:18:23.000
<v Speaker 5>That is their thing.

1540
01:18:23.239 --> 01:18:27.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, and I'm saying so, but anyway, activity.

1541
01:18:27.560 --> 01:18:30.399
<v Speaker 5>My lack of vocabulary at the perfect time fails me sometimes.

1542
01:18:31.399 --> 01:18:33.399
<v Speaker 5>But you show me that picture of and you said

1543
01:18:33.479 --> 01:18:36.239
<v Speaker 5>that that that those dudes will go into Kate's special

1544
01:18:36.319 --> 01:18:39.199
<v Speaker 5>needs class and just hang out with the guys or

1545
01:18:39.239 --> 01:18:41.319
<v Speaker 5>hang out with the students, And I'm like, come on, man,

1546
01:18:41.920 --> 01:18:45.520
<v Speaker 5>stop being so perfect. I mean, just top it, because

1547
01:18:46.600 --> 01:18:48.760
<v Speaker 5>I mean one other thing that I noticed he did

1548
01:18:50.079 --> 01:18:52.439
<v Speaker 5>I know, we don't, we got plenty of time, is

1549
01:18:52.520 --> 01:18:55.079
<v Speaker 5>that there's a little guy, little little dude on their team.

1550
01:18:55.760 --> 01:18:57.159
<v Speaker 5>I mean I swear to you he is not more

1551
01:18:57.199 --> 01:19:00.960
<v Speaker 5>than three foot five, skinny, gotta be a freshman, might

1552
01:19:01.000 --> 01:19:03.760
<v Speaker 5>even be in fifth grade, don't know. He got in

1553
01:19:03.880 --> 01:19:09.359
<v Speaker 5>one of the blowouts, got his shot made a three, yes,

1554
01:19:09.680 --> 01:19:14.840
<v Speaker 5>and Maliki about imploded. I mean, just it's gonna make

1555
01:19:14.880 --> 01:19:17.359
<v Speaker 5>me cry, I know, because he just went nuts. And

1556
01:19:17.439 --> 01:19:20.640
<v Speaker 5>then after the game, Sorry so stupid, I'm crying about this.

1557
01:19:21.359 --> 01:19:24.600
<v Speaker 5>But after the game, Malick I ran up this little

1558
01:19:24.680 --> 01:19:27.880
<v Speaker 5>kid and folded in him half like a sandwich and

1559
01:19:28.039 --> 01:19:30.359
<v Speaker 5>just held him and was so excited about it.

1560
01:19:30.479 --> 01:19:31.199
<v Speaker 1>That was so great.

1561
01:19:31.840 --> 01:19:34.720
<v Speaker 5>He's just he's just a sweet dude. Now, all right,

1562
01:19:34.800 --> 01:19:35.960
<v Speaker 5>he's gonna have to get angry.

1563
01:19:35.840 --> 01:19:36.079
<v Speaker 3>He is.

1564
01:19:36.479 --> 01:19:39.039
<v Speaker 1>He will, all right, draw those tears. Thanks for coming by.

1565
01:19:39.680 --> 01:19:43.760
<v Speaker 1>We hope you enjoyed it. Camn'll be back sometime into

1566
01:19:43.800 --> 01:19:46.520
<v Speaker 1>their future. That's a good night from the garage and election.

1567
01:19:46.520 --> 01:21:13.520
<v Speaker 7>M bat Statutapenn doing anything to back out such SAPs

1568
01:21:14.920 --> 01:21:35.920
<v Speaker 7>them from time to tiptating to the
