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Speaker 2: Malcolm Berman, and this is the Many Shades of Green,
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Speaker 3: So Hi, Malcolm. Out in really very hot, very hot?
Speaker 2: Are you as hot as they say it is out there?
Speaker 4: We're ninety six ninety six right? Sunshine? No wind?
Speaker 2: Oh well we have wind here, I can tell you, Hi, George,
Speaker 2: how is it in your part of the world?
Speaker 5: Good to be here. I'm in the high desert and
Speaker 5: it's actually cooler here than it is in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's a place I'd like to visit. I'm coming,
Speaker 2: I'm coming, And Neil and I are in windy, rainy
Speaker 2: world all out today.
Speaker 3: It's sunny, so I won't complain. But my dog and
Speaker 3: I almost blew away when we walked this morning.
Speaker 2: But anyway, the song today is The Fool on the
Speaker 2: Hill by the Beatles.
Speaker 3: It kind of fits in with the intro. And we're
Speaker 3: dealing with so many fools day after day.
Speaker 6: Alone. The man with the foo foolish green is keeping
Speaker 6: perfectly still, but nobody wants to know him.
Speaker 2: They can see that he is.
Speaker 6: Just a fool, and he never gives an answer. But
Speaker 6: the fool on them sees the sun going down, and
Speaker 6: the eyes in his head see the world stream round
Speaker 6: along the way, head in a cloud, the manner of
Speaker 6: a thousand voices, talking perfectly loud, but nobody ever hears
Speaker 6: him or the sound. He appears a maid, and he
Speaker 6: never seems to know this. Food on him sees.
Speaker 5: The sound, and the eyes in his head.
Speaker 7: See the world speedy run, and nobody seems.
Speaker 8: To like him and tell what he wants to do,
Speaker 8: and he.
Speaker 7: Never shows his feelings under full lovely.
Speaker 6: Sees the sun going down, and the eyes.
Speaker 4: In his head see the world spinning rod.
Speaker 3: The Fool on the Hill.
Speaker 2: We're talking about this for a minute with George, and
Speaker 2: the Fool on the Hill really wasn't a fool. According
Speaker 2: to Paul, he was actually supposed to be a wise
Speaker 2: man the Maharishi. But you know Paul wrote it and
Speaker 2: it was attributed to the Lennon McCartney songwriting duo, appearing
Speaker 2: on their album The nineteen sixty seven Magical Mystery Tour.
Speaker 2: And the song has different interpretations, but for me, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna use it as it describes a person who sees
Speaker 2: what he wants to see and lives in a sort
Speaker 2: of other world that's not really this world and differentiates
Speaker 2: himself from the world at lodge and just.
Speaker 3: Keeps his own circle. So the fool on the Hill
Speaker 3: could be a single person, which in this case it
Speaker 3: appears to be from the lyric, but perhaps it could
Speaker 3: be many fools on the hill.
Speaker 2: The term the Hill is used as a nickname for
Speaker 2: Capitol Hill in Washington, d C. Where the US Congress meets. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you remember those guys and gals of late Congress has
Speaker 2: not been meeting too much on the Hill, as the
Speaker 2: current Speaker of the House has constantly kept them in
Speaker 2: recess and nothing is really getting done.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: The Institution was designed to debate, compromise.
Speaker 2: Compromise, there's a word and pass laws that address the
Speaker 2: nation's problems, but increasingly Americans are watching something else unfold.
Speaker 2: The House of Representatives through October twenty twenty five had
Speaker 2: only met and voted on in eighty seven days. They
Speaker 2: were only there for eighty seven days. Imagine if you
Speaker 2: guys were you know, the nine to fives only worked
Speaker 2: eighty seven days, you know, nothing would get done.
Speaker 3: And nothing's getting done here.
Speaker 2: And then through from I think November to December, and
Speaker 2: December they go on breaks for the holidays.
Speaker 3: So in twenty twenty five, what was done? That's a
Speaker 3: big question.
Speaker 2: So depending on again your interpretation, fool on a Hill
Speaker 2: is kind of is apropos to what is currently going
Speaker 2: on in the House on the Hill. The song describes
Speaker 2: the fool or in this case of Congress, fools plural,
Speaker 2: watching the world go by, seemingly detached from reality. These days,
Speaker 2: it's hard not to think about that song when thinking
Speaker 2: about Capitol Hill and the Hill. There is a growing
Speaker 2: frustration that many Americans are calling a do it a
Speaker 2: do nothing Congress. Yeah, do nothing Congress, and I will
Speaker 2: really just say three letters GOP. While the country faces
Speaker 2: real challenges war, rising costs, climate disasters, political division, infrastructure needs,
Speaker 2: the Epstein files, and global instability the people elected to
Speaker 2: govern often appear locked in a different game, entirely a
Speaker 2: game of messaging, fundraising, and partisan theater. The American pap will,
Speaker 2: also fed up with the executive branch and of coursectis
Speaker 2: as the chief fool together with is minion of fools. See,
Speaker 2: I've been using fools a lot. Have gotten the country
Speaker 2: into a war with Iran with no plan and no
Speaker 2: endgame in sight. Gas prices are rising daily as the
Speaker 2: flow of oil has been sabotaged in the Strait of
Speaker 2: Hormuz by the Iranian military. Citizens of the US do
Speaker 2: not want war. What happened to the president's promise of
Speaker 2: no wars and affordability so that we can live a
Speaker 2: decent life. People were maybe lied to. Is that possible?
Speaker 3: I don't know. So we want action on climate resilience,
Speaker 3: action on health care costs, action on housing shortages, action
Speaker 3: on immigration reform. We don't want war in the Middle East.
Speaker 3: We don't want war on domestic soil.
Speaker 2: As Ice is waging war on many states, Minnesota and
Speaker 2: currently Vermont most egregiously, we need to stop. We need
Speaker 2: to stop the Save Act. We need to get the
Speaker 2: Epstein files out, because that what was told we would get,
Speaker 2: so conflict is rewarded.
Speaker 3: Over solutions at this point.
Speaker 2: So if Congress today feels like a collection of fools
Speaker 2: on the hill, the question isn't only what lawmakers are doing,
Speaker 2: it's also what the rest of us expect from them
Speaker 2: and what actions we will take to stop the madness.
Speaker 2: So today see what can do with George if he's
Speaker 2: going to help us stop the madness. We have George
Speaker 2: Paulisner on the program. George is our resident political analysts,
Speaker 2: environmentalist in curmudgeon, and is the founder of SIEV dot Works.
Speaker 2: He will give us information regarding what's happening or not
Speaker 2: happening on the hill, as well as the cowardice of
Speaker 2: the GOP as the Tao to the wanna be king
Speaker 2: who directs a war by what he feels in his bones.
Speaker 2: That's great, let's bomb them for fun, That's wonderful.
Speaker 9: I'm when they get rid of the positive news. What's
Speaker 9: the negative news?
Speaker 2: You know? Anyway, I'm trying to find it. I know
Speaker 2: what's in there somewhere. But we'll delve into, uh, how
Speaker 2: increased maybe renewable energy could have saved off the dependence
Speaker 2: of oil shipments through the straight of her moves because if.
Speaker 3: We had renewable energy, we wouldn't even care.
Speaker 2: At this point, we'll talk about Cuba and boy, that's
Speaker 2: a horrible situation, the lifting of Russia, Russian sanctions, the
Speaker 2: woke media and.
Speaker 3: More, and boy is so much. I don't know how
Speaker 3: much we'll get to. But George, welcome, welcome, welcome.
Speaker 5: Thank you. I was just gonna say, you know, these
Speaker 5: are truly times of desperation. If I'm the one that's
Speaker 5: expected to stop the madness, I don't be the one
Speaker 5: that starts it.
Speaker 3: You're you're there the we bow down, you know.
Speaker 2: So so watch the shady green quick. I'll give you mine,
Speaker 2: but tell me yours first.
Speaker 5: So well, I mean, if I could go Saint Patrick's
Speaker 5: Day green, the reality for me is it remains toxic
Speaker 5: sledge green, which, according to RFK Junior's brainworm is actually
Speaker 5: healthy and aproof for breakfast. And so a toxic sledge
Speaker 5: green is what I'm going with Megxine.
Speaker 2: Well, today we're taping on Saint Patti's Day. Uh, so
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go like bright kind of Kelly green, because
Speaker 2: that's you know, Aaron Gobra and in omastra, President Biden.
Speaker 2: Uh he said, Uh, there's a people say on Saint
Speaker 2: Patty's Day, one of the is this house runs on
Speaker 2: shenanigans and malarkey. But wait, it just sounds like the
Speaker 2: current White House shenanigans and malarkey, I tell you so.
Speaker 4: May remember moment was a popular word.
Speaker 3: Well Biden used it a lot. He used malarchy a.
Speaker 5: Lot, and I'll take Shenanigan said, mallarchy over abusive power
Speaker 5: and lies.
Speaker 4: And my shade of green, what is your?
Speaker 9: My shade of green is when oil comes up from
Speaker 9: the ocean and mixes with the ocean water and you
Speaker 9: see this sort of like greenish.
Speaker 4: Have you ever seen the sadly this line.
Speaker 5: Sadly you'll be seeing more of that. You know that
Speaker 5: Santa Barbara is back up.
Speaker 9: And running, and it's also being dug by VP, who
Speaker 9: caused the last major the gold, which.
Speaker 2: Is still not totally cleaning. I mean it's not that
Speaker 2: will never be the same.
Speaker 4: And then they're digging deeper now, which is even worse.
Speaker 2: So in any event, I mean, I'm trying to do
Speaker 2: on the show now something called green notes. This is
Speaker 2: this is something all it is is basically like an
Speaker 2: environmental good thing. So you know, we know that we
Speaker 2: have to reduce a reliance on fossil fuels and reduce
Speaker 2: greenhouse gas emissions. And and if if we had these
Speaker 2: if we had these renewables, again, as I said before,
Speaker 2: we wouldn't have to rely on the oil tankers going
Speaker 2: through the Strait of Hormoves.
Speaker 3: So what say you, George on this?
Speaker 5: I mean, so Bill mckibbon put it best. Bill said
Speaker 5: that energy from the Sun travels ninety three million miles
Speaker 5: to Earth without ever having to pass through the Strait
Speaker 5: of horn Moves. And he also talked about the fact
Speaker 5: that solar is now forty one percent cheaper than the
Speaker 5: lowest cost fossil fewer wind is fifty three percent cheaper.
Speaker 5: And so these are all these are all good things,
Speaker 5: I mean, and it's probably good to get the good
Speaker 5: things out of the way first, and then you know,
Speaker 5: the first thirty seconds.
Speaker 3: First the good news.
Speaker 2: You know, it's it also, it generates power without greenhouse
Speaker 2: gas emissions. It's sustainable, it's inexhaustible, and.
Speaker 5: It's growing, growing substantially, like for example, wind and solar
Speaker 5: grew I think eight hundred and thirty tarawatt hours over
Speaker 5: the past year, whereas natural gas only grew twenty tarrawatt hours,
Speaker 5: and folks that shifted away from Russian gas started to
Speaker 5: consume Katari liquid natural gas. And so they're finding out
Speaker 5: that that was They really need to get off both
Speaker 5: platforms and get on solar and wind and renewables.
Speaker 9: Our guests make confused, as a supposedly we have the
Speaker 9: smartest businessman in the world.
Speaker 4: We'll be this.
Speaker 9: Why why do the big oil companies, which supposedly have
Speaker 9: bright people working for them, why aren't they working on
Speaker 9: the solar and dark energy to control it as they
Speaker 9: do the oil.
Speaker 5: There's lots of smart people. There's also people that have
Speaker 5: an incredible amount of concentrated wealth and power. And that's
Speaker 5: the problem. Is the folks that have accumulated incredible wealth
Speaker 5: and power have insatiable greed, and they can't control wind
Speaker 5: and solar. For the most part, they can control finite
Speaker 5: extractive resources, and so they will continue. I guess it's
Speaker 5: like the old coffee commercials, good to the last drop.
Speaker 5: They will continue to accelerate by whatever means necessary, by
Speaker 5: whatever war's necessary, to extract the last drop of oil
Speaker 5: and profit from it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, but these big guys can't They put up that
Speaker 9: you need money to put up the infrastructure that would
Speaker 9: you know, convert the sunshine and the wind into the power.
Speaker 3: You could get portable units.
Speaker 2: They do that hold on in Germany or some I
Speaker 2: forgot if it was Germany or somewhere else. They have
Speaker 2: portable now units that they're putting on their terraces and
Speaker 2: it's giving them thirty percent of their energy just by
Speaker 2: having this. It almost looks that it's it's a material
Speaker 2: kind of thing, almost because it's very pliable. And I mean,
Speaker 2: they don't have a lease on the sun, these big guys,
Speaker 2: they don't.
Speaker 5: And they're subsidized by taxpayers too. And you know this, Malcolm.
Speaker 5: They get some significant subsidies, taxpayer subsidies to continue extractive
Speaker 5: mechanisms that are armful to the climate and harmful to society.
Speaker 5: And they don't stop because you have people like Trump
Speaker 5: getting up at a dinner in mar A Lago saying,
Speaker 5: give me a billion dollars for my campaign, and you
Speaker 5: can do whatever you want. And so it's all about
Speaker 5: power and satiable greed and control. There are plenty of
Speaker 5: smart people that are continuing to develop mechanisms for solar
Speaker 5: and wind, but remember this, you know when it comes
Speaker 5: to wind energy. And this was just in the news
Speaker 5: that the federal government under Trump is now putting together
Speaker 5: a package drafting agreements to cancel a massive offshore wind
Speaker 5: project in exchange for a billion dollars going to a
Speaker 5: French company, Total Energies. So Total Energies had leased offshore
Speaker 5: land for a major wind farm project to produce significant
Speaker 5: amount of renewable, clean, sustainable energy, and Trump is stopping it.
Speaker 5: And so it doesn't matter that you have smart people
Speaker 5: working on mechanisms to generate energy when you have people
Speaker 5: like corrupt, criminal people like Trump and big oil working
Speaker 5: in concert to extract that last drop of oil.
Speaker 9: I like a GM Kimmel comment on the Academy Awards.
Speaker 9: Did you hear that things so no about you know
Speaker 9: France And they said, well, we don't like pedophiles.
Speaker 5: That was about there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said that this is the first time there
Speaker 2: wasn't one British person nominated as an actor or actress.
Speaker 2: Uh and and he was saying, but they but hey,
Speaker 2: they know head of what didn't take care of pedophiles,
Speaker 2: you know, something like that, the rust pedophiles they risk
Speaker 2: at least they arrest pedophiles.
Speaker 5: Traditionally they only need Judy Dune in a movie for
Speaker 5: a minute to say, you know, thank you, and she
Speaker 5: gets the nomination.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, very possible. But I mean, yeah, they're there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there were some funny there was some funny lines by
Speaker 2: Conan two.
Speaker 3: I won't repeat it, but yeah.
Speaker 9: But they then you realize there's so much bull going
Speaker 9: around that we don't even talk about the episode follows anymore.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's the hard coverage.
Speaker 3: Wag the dog.
Speaker 2: You know, there there is people, There are people online
Speaker 2: still saying, you know where the files bahdah blah. I
Speaker 2: just it's the mainstream media, I mean, the woke media.
Speaker 2: I don't know where you want to go now because
Speaker 2: there's so many things we have, you know, the lifting
Speaker 2: of the Russian sanctions Trump, you know, did that is his?
Speaker 3: The selling oil and speaking of China and giving infoto Iran.
Speaker 9: I'm just wondering if if Brendan Kurr listens to our
Speaker 9: brocas Yeah, I'm.
Speaker 3: Sure he'll probably throw me the hell out, Okay.
Speaker 5: I I well, in terms of the Epstein Trump Maxwell files,
Speaker 5: I was reminded by Cicero for a famous quote that
Speaker 5: says in times of war, the law falls silent, and
Speaker 5: so that is probably a very old wag the dog tail,
Speaker 5: but just as timely today as it was when Zero
Speaker 5: said it. But I mean the reality is, and We've
Speaker 5: talked about this on previous shows, and I've written about it.
Speaker 5: The GOP and as you say, I mean, they were
Speaker 5: fairly absent, and thankfully because when they are convened, they're
Speaker 5: either abdicating their oath of office in their absolute fealty
Speaker 5: and cowardice to Trump, or they're passing things like the
Speaker 5: Save Act, which was passed in the House, which we
Speaker 5: may have time to talk about it later, it definitely is.
Speaker 5: It's being debated right now in the Senate, and it's
Speaker 5: worth talking about. But the House has abdicated the responsibility
Speaker 5: to the oath of office. And then you have people
Speaker 5: like eat Keg's breath, who actually has just talking about
Speaker 5: no quarter is a war crime in and of itself,
Speaker 5: and talking happens right, and talk about that's right, talk
Speaker 5: about displacing the Epstein, Trump Maxwell files. We're not even
Speaker 5: hearing about the boats that are being blown out of
Speaker 5: the water, international waters, murder on the high seas committed
Speaker 5: by this administration, and the thought of no quarter is
Speaker 5: an absolute war crime. And when you talk about it
Speaker 5: for the potential to expand the conflict in Iran, the
Speaker 5: war in Iran that has been started by Yahu and
Speaker 5: Trump and the deployment of Marines as ground troops. If
Speaker 5: suddenly there is no such thing as a Geneva convention
Speaker 5: and no protections, you're basically sending our sons and daughters
Speaker 5: and sisters and brothers and moms and dads into a
Speaker 5: war in which, hey, you know, torture is cool. There
Speaker 5: there's no quarter. You can just shoot people without taking
Speaker 5: them prisoner. It's absolutely disgusting, and the media doesn't even
Speaker 5: it covers it for a minute and then goes on
Speaker 5: to you.
Speaker 4: Know, the.
Speaker 9: Something like that happened about fifty years sixty sixty years
Speaker 9: already ago place called Vietnam. If it's the same type
Speaker 9: of warfare or or not paying attention to any on them, Yeah.
Speaker 5: I would say it's even worse, Malcolm, because we should
Speaker 5: be evolving intellectually as a species in terms of you know,
Speaker 5: fundamental you know, humanitarian uh morality, and the fact that
Speaker 5: that we've regressed so far with this administration what is
Speaker 5: effectively a criminally corrupt administration. Uh. It fills me with
Speaker 5: absolute disgust.
Speaker 9: I mean, your reality is sort of like to the
Speaker 9: to the left of Chump's reality.
Speaker 4: That's not a real thing that you're talking about.
Speaker 5: It's not it's not left or right.
Speaker 4: Has it happened?
Speaker 5: It's not left to write, Malcolm, it is. It's basically
Speaker 5: fundamental morality. And it doesn't matter if you're conservative or liberal.
Speaker 5: You know, there's a fundamental thought of justice, democracy, uh,
Speaker 5: and equality and people regardless of you know, where you
Speaker 5: stand on what's an appropriate long term capital gains rate,
Speaker 5: which is where the real argument should be in terms
Speaker 5: of conservatives and liberals. Uh. You know, you have to
Speaker 5: fundamentally agree that we have a constitution, that we have
Speaker 5: rule of law, because if you reject all of that,
Speaker 5: then you're really the the insurrectionists, not you know, not
Speaker 5: people that that that effectively.
Speaker 4: Say happen might makes right.
Speaker 3: That Mike does not. Mike does not really make right.
Speaker 2: And I'm just going to get off this a second
Speaker 2: because I wate.
Speaker 3: Okay, no, I don't want to I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear about it because we have
Speaker 2: devils and fools all around.
Speaker 3: But I just want to do it. I know we're
Speaker 3: going to hit the brake soon, so let me get
Speaker 3: this in.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: This is from the Academy Awards. Director David Bornstein won
Speaker 2: for Documentary for Mister Nobody against Putin, and he said
Speaker 2: it was about how to lose your country. It wasn't
Speaker 2: just about Russia. It was about every country where silence
Speaker 2: becomes surrender, where corruption, oligarchy, and state violence thrive because
Speaker 2: too many people look away. He said that tyranny doesn't
Speaker 2: announce itself overnight. It grows in the quiet, one ignored
Speaker 2: injustice at a time, one censored story at a time,
Speaker 2: one fearful silence at a time. And then the last
Speaker 2: line was a warning in rallying cry all at once,
Speaker 2: when he said, even and nobody is more powerful then
Speaker 2: you think, because every nobody who speaks up and refuses
Speaker 2: to comply with cruelty becomes the reason a country finds
Speaker 2: its spine again.
Speaker 3: That was all an amazing speech, powerfully eloquent.
Speaker 5: That was great, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, beautifully done and just like blew me away that
Speaker 2: because that just took you where it is.
Speaker 3: He said it just right out outright, and and that's.
Speaker 2: Why you know, I watched it to see what was
Speaker 2: going to come out of it, and that to me,
Speaker 2: came out of it out of everything I saw, and
Speaker 2: so uh and and I got to see that movie now.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's streaming.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: If you watch it, they'll pick you up and come
Speaker 2: to your house. I have no idea. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: just just just the name of it is UH is
Speaker 2: mister Nobody against Putin. So all the people in this
Speaker 2: country who think they're nobody, they're not, and more of us.
Speaker 3: Who get together, hopefully on March twenty eighth, it'll be huge.
Speaker 3: And how are you working on that? Right?
Speaker 2: So yeah, so we'll we'll uh, we'll talk more about
Speaker 2: that after the break, all right, So we'll be back
Speaker 2: with Georgie Paulisner with more info on UH. I keep
Speaker 2: saying the dismantling of democracy in America, but we have
Speaker 2: a responsibility as the nobody's to make this better. So
Speaker 2: please stay tuned and come on back after the break.
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Speaker 2: So we're back with George Paulaisner we're going to talk
Speaker 2: about war.
Speaker 3: What is it good for? Absolutely nothing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you have to be a certain age to
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Speaker 2: any questions go to the website the Many Shades of
Speaker 2: Green and you can ask all you want. So we
Speaker 2: were talking about different things about sanctions, about the fools
Speaker 2: on the hill, the Hill meeting Congress, the capital. So George,
Speaker 2: we went to war and we didn't. There was no
Speaker 2: approval from Congress. He didn't even bring his case to
Speaker 2: the American people nothing. How can we go to war
Speaker 2: without Congress approval? How we How is this even happening?
Speaker 5: Well? I think what what Trump understands, and particularly those
Speaker 5: around him that are are stroking his ego to basically
Speaker 5: be able to do whatever he wants, is he understands
Speaker 5: that a representative democracy, our our our system of government
Speaker 5: is intended to be deliberative. Uh. And so he knows
Speaker 5: that he can push something, he can attack something, whether
Speaker 5: it be more warehouses and uh, extreme funding for ice
Speaker 5: and rounding. He can he can take actions in which
Speaker 5: he's effectively abusing traditional power of office, could be impoundments
Speaker 5: on on budget or prosecuting war. Uh. Venezuela was his
Speaker 5: first test to see if he would be reined in
Speaker 5: and uh. And this Congress UH decided against invoking the
Speaker 5: War Powers Act. And so they effectively said, yeah, do
Speaker 5: what you need to do in Venezuela. So Iran is next,
Speaker 5: uh and UH. And now Trump has issued statements that
Speaker 5: he wants to simply take Cuba. Uh. And it's it's
Speaker 5: an absolute abdication of responsibility of Congress. It is the
Speaker 5: cowardice of the GOP and the absolute fealty of some
Speaker 5: members of Congress to effectively a criminally corrupt administration. And
Speaker 5: so he is he is pushing the envelope because he
Speaker 5: knows he can. The places where he has stopped is
Speaker 5: in a reaction to something that he does in the
Speaker 5: fatal courts. And so we can see federal courts pushing back.
Speaker 5: We occasionally see the Roberts Court reining him in a
Speaker 5: little bit.
Speaker 2: But the let's face the terriffs that he he didn't
Speaker 2: do anything else. I don't know, I mean that I
Speaker 2: saw anything else that came out that was positive.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I just and the reality is from
Speaker 5: his perspective, Roberts, the Roberts Court is what gave him
Speaker 5: free reign by saying you have immunity for official acts
Speaker 5: and the intent. And I think it's it's people should
Speaker 5: know the intent of this administration. At a time in
Speaker 5: which the Department of Justice still hasn't fulfilled their legal
Speaker 5: obligation to release all of the Epstein, Trump and Maxwell
Speaker 5: investigative files. They did recently release I think back on
Speaker 5: February twenty eighth, a document, uh that alleges in an interview,
Speaker 5: in an interview with a victim, that Trump raped a
Speaker 5: thirteen year old girl and abused others. And so the
Speaker 5: walls are closing in on Trump. He is a cornered
Speaker 5: animal and that makes him dangerous. Yeah, and that's that's why, Uh,
Speaker 5: he went after Venezuela. That's why he's prosecuting war in Iran. Uh,
Speaker 5: not only I think in terms of trying to obscure
Speaker 5: the Epstein Trump Maxwell files, but also because nat Yahoo
Speaker 5: said it's time to go into It's time to go into.
Speaker 2: Iran now there now he wants to go into Cuba,
Speaker 2: and he said and Cuba saying they have not received
Speaker 2: oil shipments because they're being blocked in three months, they're
Speaker 2: using solar natural gas and thermoelectric plants, which are also
Speaker 2: not in good shape. Actually, they said surgeries have been
Speaker 2: postponed for thousands of thousands of people who is spoiling,
Speaker 2: and critical shipments from Venezuela were halted.
Speaker 5: Right, So, and a blockade is an act of war.
Speaker 5: And so the reality is Trump already has declared war
Speaker 5: on Cuba.
Speaker 3: What what's there?
Speaker 2: What does he want just to take it just because
Speaker 2: he thinks.
Speaker 5: You know, I think that he in many respects like Putin,
Speaker 5: trying to take what he wants and what Netanyahu is
Speaker 5: doing in the Middle East. I think he wants to
Speaker 5: uh have his legacy be Trump the Great conqueror getting
Speaker 5: getting rid of these so called evil regimes.
Speaker 9: Well, I think it's kind of obvious if Trump doesn't
Speaker 9: build up a situation where he's going to be re
Speaker 9: elected for a third term, he's going to go to jail.
Speaker 9: He has done enough things outside of you know, executive decisions,
Speaker 9: but criminal things that if he doesn't get re elected.
Speaker 5: Or.
Speaker 3: He's going to try to stop the election, or he
Speaker 3: has to stop.
Speaker 9: The election because well but the thing is he's going
Speaker 9: to be at the time it's eighty three.
Speaker 3: No, I'm talking about the mid terms.
Speaker 2: If we win the midterms and if we get the
Speaker 2: House and Senate, he's done. I think what I mean, George,
Speaker 2: do you think if that actually happens, you think.
Speaker 3: We will he will be its way out or what
Speaker 3: that won't even do it.
Speaker 5: The Senate has a high bar for impeachment, and so
Speaker 5: if the House flips, and I don't mean if it
Speaker 5: flips to just Democratic control, because there are independents in
Speaker 5: the Senate as well, not just Democrats. From my perspective,
Speaker 5: regardless of your political party, if you take your oath
Speaker 5: of office seriously, if you do not betray, if your
Speaker 5: actions do not betray your commitment to your constituents, the Constitution,
Speaker 5: and your oath of office, it shouldn't matter what political
Speaker 5: party you're in. He should be impeached and convicted and removed.
Speaker 5: I don't think people have called for the twenty fifth
Speaker 5: vocation of the twenty fifth Amendment to remove him because
Speaker 5: of extreme incompetence insanity. However, you want to characterize what
Speaker 5: he's doing in terms of his destruction of this country,
Speaker 5: in our institutions. But he basically installed a cabinet of
Speaker 5: people that have pledged their absolute fealty to him, and
Speaker 5: they're simply with the exception of Christinome, there hasn't been
Speaker 5: enough to rise to the level of impa other parts
Speaker 5: of his corrupt cabinet. I mean, where the reality is
Speaker 5: for her obstruction of the release of the investigative files.
Speaker 5: Every day, Pam Bondy is breaking the law and she
Speaker 5: should go absolutely the next Scott Bessant has refused the
Speaker 5: release of some of the financial dealings and documentation related
Speaker 5: to the Epstein Trump Maxwell files. And so this is
Speaker 5: an administration that's not going to invoke the twenty fifth
Speaker 5: Amendment never And I just don't think I think that
Speaker 5: he could. If the house flips, he could be impeached.
Speaker 5: He will certainly have investigation after investigation into all of
Speaker 5: his criminally corrupt acts, whether it be taking the bribe
Speaker 5: from Qatar in the form of the jet in terms
Speaker 5: of all of the Trump crypto and violations of the
Speaker 5: Emolument's clause of the Constitution. I mean, there's enough there
Speaker 5: for him to be uh, but he'll ignore subpoenas.
Speaker 3: He'll doing that now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he'll say go ahead and and you know, do
Speaker 5: whatever you want.
Speaker 3: The rule of law doesn't exist pretty much.
Speaker 5: That's that's right, because he'll say, uh fine, hold me
Speaker 5: in contempt of Congress. But then it's up to the
Speaker 5: Department of Justice, which I right, yeah, it's it's become
Speaker 5: his uh prosecute, prosecutorial revenge branch instead of the Department
Speaker 5: of Justice.
Speaker 2: On a different note, all you baseball fans out there,
Speaker 2: note the finals of the International Baseball Tournament is Venezuela
Speaker 2: against the USSA.
Speaker 3: No joke, I am not kidding.
Speaker 2: That is that tonight there's going to be Venezuela versus
Speaker 2: the USA.
Speaker 3: I can't even imagine. I don't even know.
Speaker 2: Who I'm rooting for. I'm voting for the for the
Speaker 2: ball boy, the guys.
Speaker 5: But I can I can tell you what's going to
Speaker 5: happen is right now, you know, the Venezuelans are all
Speaker 5: oiling up their gloves.
Speaker 10: And mits and so defensively, they're gonna they're gonna have
Speaker 10: a much better defensive game, and you know, the balls
Speaker 10: are just going to bounce off of all of the
Speaker 10: stiff for no oil on the American squad.
Speaker 5: You know, we're.
Speaker 4: Speaking of oil which I don't.
Speaker 9: I heard some sort of thing on the news or
Speaker 9: the other day about how China has threatened the United
Speaker 9: States that they don't return the tanker that he captured
Speaker 9: because that oil was meant for China.
Speaker 2: Which there's so many tankers, there's so many things.
Speaker 3: Which is one of Vene Israela.
Speaker 2: I don't even I he the distraction and he just
Speaker 2: throws out things every day. There's fifteen balls in the
Speaker 2: air of distract action, like all the time. The chaos
Speaker 2: is so great you don't even know how to address
Speaker 2: each thing, and then something falls by the wayside because
Speaker 2: he's wagging so many dogs that you know.
Speaker 5: And and I think, I think, what's what's happening in
Speaker 5: in Cuba is an absolute uh, the beginning of a
Speaker 5: great tragedy in terms of the people there and what
Speaker 5: Trump is unilaterally doing. Uh. And this is something that's
Speaker 5: largely under reported uh in media, that a blockade is
Speaker 5: effectively an active war. Uh. And so and so he
Speaker 5: has provoked war in Cuba. The people are suffering.
Speaker 2: UH.
Speaker 5: And Trump, you know, is basically talking about, oh, it's
Speaker 5: my honor to take this and do something with it.
Speaker 5: You know, maybe Jared can be president of Cuba and
Speaker 5: uh and then also be you know abord yep, maybe
Speaker 5: Marco comes back, but you know, he may have he
Speaker 5: might trip over his floorshy sho shoes.
Speaker 3: I think that's why.
Speaker 9: I think that's why it may be pro Trump, because
Speaker 9: that's what he promised, Marco, you become the president.
Speaker 3: He may be Trump.
Speaker 4: No no, no, he said.
Speaker 2: More than.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 9: But that was his promise. That's why he's pro Trump. Yeah,
Speaker 9: he was promised Cuba.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, all the entire cabinet is like I mean,
Speaker 2: I think if they put in the movie Idiocracy the
Speaker 2: cabinet that was in that movie in there.
Speaker 3: We'd be okay, we'd be much better off. I mean,
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just.
Speaker 2: It's beyond comprehension. If you have a quarter of a brain,
Speaker 2: it's melting right now.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know mine is. It's like, I.
Speaker 9: Wonder who's going to do the first good movie about
Speaker 9: the administration, like.
Speaker 2: Amazon Milania, you know Bezos is uh, he he's the
Speaker 2: one I think.
Speaker 5: I thought she was. I thought she was on Pornhub.
Speaker 5: I didn't know she was on Amazon too.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't I don't look at pornhub.
Speaker 3: But but they show a picture of her like she
Speaker 3: was stripping or something, or want to pold I don't
Speaker 3: know what she was.
Speaker 5: That's how she got her Epstein visa.
Speaker 3: Right, the the genius visa.
Speaker 5: Right, it's for it's for a unique talent.
Speaker 3: It's right. It's the talents that just go above and beyond.
Speaker 3: It's unreal. So so where do we look?
Speaker 2: Look? I know, I know I can't. I couldn't even
Speaker 2: think of watching that. You know, some people I know
Speaker 2: are watching it. Did you watch Milania?
Speaker 5: I actually wrote a letter to I was at an
Speaker 5: independent theater here in Tucson, and they showed a preview
Speaker 5: for it, and I sent the theater a note saying,
Speaker 5: you know, I come to the theater to enjoy and
Speaker 5: to have some entertainment and to be to essentially have
Speaker 5: some insulation from the absolute dystopia that's happening around us.
Speaker 5: And so I said, you know, thanks.
Speaker 2: Thanks for nothing. Thanks for nothing. It wasn't being played
Speaker 2: around here. I didn't see any theaters that had it
Speaker 2: in my area. I think I think people's heads would
Speaker 2: have exploded. I mean, if I had seen that as
Speaker 2: a comic attraction in my local you know, independent beautiful
Speaker 2: film house there I would have busted. I would have
Speaker 2: probably gone straight to the manager.
Speaker 3: How about it, they would have thrown me out of
Speaker 3: the theater.
Speaker 9: How about if they showed the movie free. You didn't
Speaker 9: have to pay anything for that?
Speaker 3: See it? If they paid me, I don't even to
Speaker 3: me if they paid me.
Speaker 5: Wait a minute, Maxian, how much are we talking about?
Speaker 2: Well, let's see a million dollars.
Speaker 4: Supposedly they paid people for the opening. That's what I
Speaker 4: got them.
Speaker 3: I heard they that they asked people that they people don't.
Speaker 4: Know what to believe anymore.
Speaker 5: They got a Trump the problem.
Speaker 3: That's where he gets us. No one knows what's to
Speaker 3: believe anymore.
Speaker 5: They got a Trump phone and some Trump crypto I guess.
Speaker 9: I mean with they, with they even if I see
Speaker 9: it on video, I don't know if it's real.
Speaker 2: And a watch in a Bible to go with it,
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's just insane. So so now you know,
Speaker 2: I don't do you want to go into wob You
Speaker 2: want to finish up with sanctions?
Speaker 5: Well, I mean to what? Yeah, I mean, what what's
Speaker 5: happened with? Uh? This operation so called Epic Fury, which
Speaker 5: is I think we all know is Epstein fury Uh
Speaker 5: is because Trump did not account for in his tiny
Speaker 5: little mind the fact that the Strait of Hormuz is
Speaker 5: largely controlled by Iranian forces. Twenty percent of the oil
Speaker 5: for the world moves through that strait. And so what
Speaker 5: what Trump has done is he's now basically sent a
Speaker 5: love letter to his favorite tyrant, murderous tyrant, Blad Putin,
Speaker 5: and he's basically lifted sanctions on Russian oil. And you
Speaker 5: know that, you know he is going to Putin's going
Speaker 5: to use the funds associated with that to inflict more
Speaker 5: damage in his invasion of Ukraine. And so it's from
Speaker 5: a geopolitical standpoint, it's a chain of events that's absolutely
Speaker 5: up in disgusting. And at the end of the day,
Speaker 5: you have two tyrants. One of them is clever and
Speaker 5: the other one basically is self deluded into, you know,
Speaker 5: thinking he's a genius, and he gets played by every
Speaker 5: leader with a three digit IQ in the world.
Speaker 4: Before we go, I have a question for you. Now.
Speaker 9: Trump says that we're self sufficient as far as oil goes,
Speaker 9: that we have enough, right And guess I don't think he.
Speaker 5: Said And this was all throughout Project twenty twenty five
Speaker 5: is declaring that energy independence is a major objective for
Speaker 5: the United States. I don't think he's ever said I
Speaker 5: don't think he's ever declared that we are independent from
Speaker 5: having to import any oil.
Speaker 4: No, I've already said that he wants to, Well, hey,
Speaker 4: what couldn't If.
Speaker 9: We can show so much oil, why can he unilaterally
Speaker 9: lower prices if we're not that dependent on the imports.
Speaker 5: Because we are, we are dependent on imports, and.
Speaker 4: The heed to us. I don't believe that.
Speaker 5: Uh, well, you know he has a tell, Malcolm. Uh
Speaker 5: and this is you know, if you play a lot
Speaker 5: of poker, you know certain players have a tell. If
Speaker 5: his mouth is moving and sounds are coming out, he's lying,
Speaker 5: it's a tell. And if he's not talking, then Lovett
Speaker 5: is lying for him.
Speaker 2: It's just yeah, yeah, that's unbelievable that what she says
Speaker 2: in those press conferences. It's it's like, you know, they
Speaker 2: just think that, you know, it's just there. You know,
Speaker 2: people we have a brain are not going to know what.
Speaker 3: The hell is going on, and they gets catering anyway.
Speaker 9: Did you think he types on the computer himself or
Speaker 9: he dictates?
Speaker 5: Yeah, when they're typos, I'm pretty sure he is doing it.
Speaker 2: You know it's I mean that that president. I mean
Speaker 2: what he did to this office, he literally brought it.
Speaker 4: But it is unto the cuntry to the world is unbelievable.
Speaker 5: Well, what he's trying to do now, and it's being
Speaker 5: debated on the Senate floor, is the Save America Act,
Speaker 5: which we talked about, and it is a it is
Speaker 5: absolutely draconian bill that goes to the heart of our elections.
Speaker 5: It passed the House already.
Speaker 3: You know, so not a suppression bill.
Speaker 5: It is a voter suppression bill.
Speaker 2: And it's a full tax because now you don't need
Speaker 2: to get a passport, and it's women.
Speaker 3: It's directed most at women.
Speaker 5: Over twenty one million American voters lack access to either
Speaker 5: a passport or a birth certificate. In order to obtain
Speaker 5: a passport, the passport offices are all backed up out
Speaker 5: of the the Department of State, and then the cost
Speaker 5: is so che with obtaining a passport is absolutely a
Speaker 5: poll tax. And from my perspective, if they want to
Speaker 5: pass the Save Tax, what they need to do is
Speaker 5: they need to go to every seven to eleven and
Speaker 5: circle K and appoint somebody uh a t SA agent who.
Speaker 5: I guess they're unpaid now are still unpaid because of
Speaker 5: the gay quitting. But they need to they need to
Speaker 5: basically pass out passports for free, uh, and they need
Speaker 5: a mechanism to distribute them for anybody that wants them, uh,
Speaker 5: to eliminate the poll tax. And so if it doesn't
Speaker 5: look like it's going to pass, I think there's there's
Speaker 5: a very small chat with me.
Speaker 2: To bar it wouldn't It wouldn't surprise me though. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, are they going to be able to get
Speaker 2: the dam They need the Damns and Senate to do this.
Speaker 5: Well, they you know, they'll get They'll get John.
Speaker 2: Fetterman one and this is a sixty they need sixty.
Speaker 3: They want to do a filibuster. I don't know what
Speaker 3: they're doing.
Speaker 4: Anything you want to kill the philibus, anything.
Speaker 3: That's cruel and evil that that's being done.
Speaker 5: Well well, And keep in mind that the whole purpose
Speaker 5: is the so called non citizen voting. And just to
Speaker 5: give you an example, in Utah, they reviewed over two
Speaker 5: million registered voters and they found one confirmed instance of
Speaker 5: a non citizen voting. And this is if you look
Speaker 5: at the Brennan Center for Justice, it is aligned and
Speaker 5: supported by just about every election investigation that's been done
Speaker 5: over the past thirty or forty years. It's a completely
Speaker 5: made up myth to.
Speaker 9: Create a doubt people are creating.
Speaker 4: You know, well, it doesn't.
Speaker 5: It does create doubt, but it does more than that, Malcolm.
Speaker 5: I mean the voter suppression efforts to kick people off
Speaker 5: of the voter rolls, uh to uh, to consolidate precincts
Speaker 5: so that suddenly there's a five hour line on election day.
Speaker 5: These are the Yep, that's right.
Speaker 3: You have to get it postmarked. That means you have
Speaker 3: to go to the post office and get it postmarked
Speaker 3: that way because you go.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And also they took away they used to be able
Speaker 2: to get passports and libraries.
Speaker 3: They stop that, that's right. So so literally they're just
Speaker 3: trying to kill the world. I mean, what is there
Speaker 3: power you need?
Speaker 4: It's not about talking about make America great again? To me?
Speaker 4: Is make America white again?
Speaker 5: No? It is. But I mean they're not trying to
Speaker 5: kill the world. They're just trying to basically consolidate and
Speaker 5: perpetuate and project their power. Uh. And as a result,
Speaker 5: they basically want to drain the treasury. That's what they're doing,
Speaker 5: uh the are What they're doing is they're basically taking
Speaker 5: money out of out of our out of our bank accounts,
Speaker 5: our children's and our grandchildren's bank accounts to pay I mean,
Speaker 5: the the US debt right now is up over thirty
Speaker 5: eight trillion dollars. And you take that debt and then
Speaker 5: you cut taxes for the wealthy. Who's going to pay
Speaker 5: for that? It's us?
Speaker 3: We are, yep, but they don't.
Speaker 4: During during his first term did then he increase the.
Speaker 9: The debt by two three trillion dollars seven.
Speaker 2: Trillion, But at least he had at least there was
Speaker 2: some adults in that administration.
Speaker 5: Yeah, even even a Secretary of State Exon Rex Tillerson,
Speaker 5: you know who later then called him an e fing moron.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Well, because you know, I just don't know
Speaker 2: where this is all going to end up. People, So
Speaker 2: U try to get some joy in Saint Patti's Day
Speaker 2: is today, have a green beer man.
Speaker 5: Well, March March twenty eighth is huge, and I've been
Speaker 5: and I know that there are thousands of events being
Speaker 5: planned all over the country and throughout the world. And
Speaker 5: I've had the honor of working side by side in
Speaker 5: a planning committee organizing an event where we believe that
Speaker 5: we'll have between six and eight thousand people from the
Speaker 5: local community and so and I think that we'll see
Speaker 5: events like this all across the nation and again throughout
Speaker 5: the world. I saw some information about no Kings in Portugal.
Speaker 3: That's cool, yep.
Speaker 9: Why does he planning for? I think Martin it's May
Speaker 9: where a prayer day that he's going to.
Speaker 2: I don't even I don't want to give it even
Speaker 2: any air turning then he can know what anyway. So
Speaker 2: here we are where can people get more information? And
Speaker 2: we have siv dot works. Where can you go to
Speaker 2: take action? People need to go to the March twenty eighth,
Speaker 2: They need to get involved.
Speaker 3: They need to take action in their communities.
Speaker 5: And that's right. No Kings dot Org, Indivisible, fifty to
Speaker 5: fifty one, siv dot works. We list a lot of
Speaker 5: organizations that are working, whether they be independent, independent journalism,
Speaker 5: media folks like Heather Cox Richardson, books to read, films
Speaker 5: to watch, get your neighbors involved. And you know, remember
Speaker 5: when you have somebody like egg eggs Keg's breath and
Speaker 5: Trump willing to commit our sons and daughters and sisters
Speaker 5: and brothers and moms and dads to an illegal, completely
Speaker 5: made up war. We need to get on We need
Speaker 5: to get out in the streets. We need to do
Speaker 5: something about this, and we need to be heard and
Speaker 5: can be held for treason.
Speaker 3: The head, the head of a c l U basically said.
Speaker 2: What he sees is that we need to do a
Speaker 2: complete shutdown, like a shutdown of the.
Speaker 5: Country, a general strike, a general strike.
Speaker 2: That nothing happens, no one does anything, no work, no nothing.
Speaker 2: The odds of that happening here in the US very low.
Speaker 2: They've done it, They've done it in France except for
Speaker 2: a right there. Yeah, man, I hope by the time
Speaker 2: the summer comes and comes that that that that the
Speaker 2: t s A and that the flights are going.
Speaker 3: But this is crazy. I wouldn't want to be flying down.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely anyway.
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