WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.640 --> 00:00:23.440 Ludginriverradio dot Com. 2 00:00:24.600 --> 00:00:28.120 Hi, out there in podcast land and beyond wherever that 3 00:00:28.199 --> 00:00:31.760 might be. Maxine Margar Rubin along with my co host, 4 00:00:31.839 --> 00:00:34.600 Malcolm Berman, and this is the Many Shades of Green, 5 00:00:35.039 --> 00:00:37.600 a program that adds a dash of green into your life. 6 00:00:37.880 --> 00:00:42.399 As we engage in conversations that move to inform, educate, activate, 7 00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:48.280 and raise your eco and social consciousness through culture, politics, music, art, science, 8 00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:50.799 and community. We hope to inspire you to pick a 9 00:00:50.840 --> 00:00:54.000 shade of green and become a steward of this beautiful, blue, 10 00:00:54.039 --> 00:00:55.840 green planet we call Earth. 11 00:00:56.240 --> 00:01:01.320 So Hi, Malcolm. Out in really very hot, very hot? 12 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:05.359 Are you as hot as they say it is out there? 13 00:01:05.400 --> 00:01:09.560 We're ninety six ninety six right? Sunshine? No wind? 14 00:01:09.959 --> 00:01:14.040 Oh well we have wind here, I can tell you, Hi, George, 15 00:01:14.599 --> 00:01:17.640 how is it in your part of the world? 16 00:01:17.400 --> 00:01:21.239 Good to be here. I'm in the high desert and 17 00:01:21.400 --> 00:01:24.239 it's actually cooler here than it is in Los Angeles. 18 00:01:24.560 --> 00:01:27.200 Wow, that's a place I'd like to visit. I'm coming, 19 00:01:27.239 --> 00:01:31.760 I'm coming, And Neil and I are in windy, rainy 20 00:01:31.799 --> 00:01:32.879 world all out today. 21 00:01:32.920 --> 00:01:35.799 It's sunny, so I won't complain. But my dog and 22 00:01:35.840 --> 00:01:38.000 I almost blew away when we walked this morning. 23 00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:42.079 But anyway, the song today is The Fool on the 24 00:01:42.159 --> 00:01:43.519 Hill by the Beatles. 25 00:01:43.319 --> 00:01:46.719 It kind of fits in with the intro. And we're 26 00:01:46.719 --> 00:01:53.359 dealing with so many fools day after day. 27 00:01:55.400 --> 00:02:01.959 Alone. The man with the foo foolish green is keeping 28 00:02:02.359 --> 00:02:08.280 perfectly still, but nobody wants to know him. 29 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:09.879 They can see that he is. 30 00:02:10.120 --> 00:02:15.120 Just a fool, and he never gives an answer. But 31 00:02:15.439 --> 00:02:22.000 the fool on them sees the sun going down, and 32 00:02:22.159 --> 00:02:28.439 the eyes in his head see the world stream round 33 00:02:32.479 --> 00:02:39.479 along the way, head in a cloud, the manner of 34 00:02:39.520 --> 00:02:47.599 a thousand voices, talking perfectly loud, but nobody ever hears 35 00:02:47.680 --> 00:02:52.560 him or the sound. He appears a maid, and he 36 00:02:52.680 --> 00:02:58.879 never seems to know this. Food on him sees. 37 00:02:58.639 --> 00:03:04.360 The sound, and the eyes in his head. 38 00:03:04.759 --> 00:03:26.919 See the world speedy run, and nobody seems. 39 00:03:26.599 --> 00:03:30.439 To like him and tell what he wants to do, 40 00:03:31.800 --> 00:03:32.400 and he. 41 00:03:32.319 --> 00:03:37.120 Never shows his feelings under full lovely. 42 00:03:37.800 --> 00:03:42.759 Sees the sun going down, and the eyes. 43 00:03:42.879 --> 00:03:47.080 In his head see the world spinning rod. 44 00:04:01.479 --> 00:04:02.479 The Fool on the Hill. 45 00:04:02.879 --> 00:04:05.080 We're talking about this for a minute with George, and 46 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:08.199 the Fool on the Hill really wasn't a fool. According 47 00:04:08.240 --> 00:04:10.520 to Paul, he was actually supposed to be a wise 48 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:14.919 man the Maharishi. But you know Paul wrote it and 49 00:04:15.560 --> 00:04:19.199 it was attributed to the Lennon McCartney songwriting duo, appearing 50 00:04:19.240 --> 00:04:23.079 on their album The nineteen sixty seven Magical Mystery Tour. 51 00:04:23.959 --> 00:04:26.959 And the song has different interpretations, but for me, I'm 52 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:29.360 gonna use it as it describes a person who sees 53 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:33.279 what he wants to see and lives in a sort 54 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:40.399 of other world that's not really this world and differentiates 55 00:04:40.439 --> 00:04:44.360 himself from the world at lodge and just. 56 00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:48.040 Keeps his own circle. So the fool on the Hill 57 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:50.920 could be a single person, which in this case it 58 00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:54.680 appears to be from the lyric, but perhaps it could 59 00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:56.759 be many fools on the hill. 60 00:04:57.439 --> 00:04:59.800 The term the Hill is used as a nickname for 61 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:03.720 Capitol Hill in Washington, d C. Where the US Congress meets. Yeah, 62 00:05:03.720 --> 00:05:07.040 you remember those guys and gals of late Congress has 63 00:05:07.079 --> 00:05:10.399 not been meeting too much on the Hill, as the 64 00:05:10.439 --> 00:05:13.240 current Speaker of the House has constantly kept them in 65 00:05:13.319 --> 00:05:15.680 recess and nothing is really getting done. 66 00:05:16.480 --> 00:05:16.600 Uh. 67 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:19.720 The Institution was designed to debate, compromise. 68 00:05:19.920 --> 00:05:23.639 Compromise, there's a word and pass laws that address the 69 00:05:23.720 --> 00:05:28.639 nation's problems, but increasingly Americans are watching something else unfold. 70 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:32.800 The House of Representatives through October twenty twenty five had 71 00:05:32.800 --> 00:05:36.040 only met and voted on in eighty seven days. They 72 00:05:36.079 --> 00:05:38.519 were only there for eighty seven days. Imagine if you 73 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:42.199 guys were you know, the nine to fives only worked 74 00:05:42.199 --> 00:05:45.040 eighty seven days, you know, nothing would get done. 75 00:05:45.079 --> 00:05:46.160 And nothing's getting done here. 76 00:05:47.319 --> 00:05:50.680 And then through from I think November to December, and 77 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:53.240 December they go on breaks for the holidays. 78 00:05:53.639 --> 00:05:58.000 So in twenty twenty five, what was done? That's a 79 00:05:58.040 --> 00:05:58.720 big question. 80 00:05:59.319 --> 00:06:03.800 So depending on again your interpretation, fool on a Hill 81 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:07.360 is kind of is apropos to what is currently going 82 00:06:07.399 --> 00:06:12.519 on in the House on the Hill. The song describes 83 00:06:12.560 --> 00:06:17.480 the fool or in this case of Congress, fools plural, 84 00:06:17.959 --> 00:06:22.079 watching the world go by, seemingly detached from reality. These days, 85 00:06:22.079 --> 00:06:25.079 it's hard not to think about that song when thinking 86 00:06:25.079 --> 00:06:28.240 about Capitol Hill and the Hill. There is a growing 87 00:06:28.279 --> 00:06:31.800 frustration that many Americans are calling a do it a 88 00:06:31.879 --> 00:06:36.199 do nothing Congress. Yeah, do nothing Congress, and I will 89 00:06:36.240 --> 00:06:40.800 really just say three letters GOP. While the country faces 90 00:06:40.839 --> 00:06:46.480 real challenges war, rising costs, climate disasters, political division, infrastructure needs, 91 00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:50.839 the Epstein files, and global instability the people elected to 92 00:06:50.920 --> 00:06:55.120 govern often appear locked in a different game, entirely a 93 00:06:55.160 --> 00:07:00.360 game of messaging, fundraising, and partisan theater. The American pap will, 94 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:03.639 also fed up with the executive branch and of coursectis 95 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:08.040 as the chief fool together with is minion of fools. See, 96 00:07:08.079 --> 00:07:11.079 I've been using fools a lot. Have gotten the country 97 00:07:11.120 --> 00:07:13.800 into a war with Iran with no plan and no 98 00:07:14.079 --> 00:07:17.360 endgame in sight. Gas prices are rising daily as the 99 00:07:17.360 --> 00:07:20.720 flow of oil has been sabotaged in the Strait of 100 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:25.480 Hormuz by the Iranian military. Citizens of the US do 101 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:28.920 not want war. What happened to the president's promise of 102 00:07:28.959 --> 00:07:32.680 no wars and affordability so that we can live a 103 00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:37.120 decent life. People were maybe lied to. Is that possible? 104 00:07:37.680 --> 00:07:41.519 I don't know. So we want action on climate resilience, 105 00:07:41.680 --> 00:07:45.600 action on health care costs, action on housing shortages, action 106 00:07:45.720 --> 00:07:49.279 on immigration reform. We don't want war in the Middle East. 107 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:51.879 We don't want war on domestic soil. 108 00:07:51.959 --> 00:07:56.079 As Ice is waging war on many states, Minnesota and 109 00:07:56.120 --> 00:08:01.120 currently Vermont most egregiously, we need to stop. We need 110 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:03.360 to stop the Save Act. We need to get the 111 00:08:03.399 --> 00:08:08.279 Epstein files out, because that what was told we would get, 112 00:08:09.240 --> 00:08:11.560 so conflict is rewarded. 113 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:12.639 Over solutions at this point. 114 00:08:12.680 --> 00:08:15.399 So if Congress today feels like a collection of fools 115 00:08:15.399 --> 00:08:18.920 on the hill, the question isn't only what lawmakers are doing, 116 00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:21.519 it's also what the rest of us expect from them 117 00:08:21.800 --> 00:08:24.959 and what actions we will take to stop the madness. 118 00:08:25.639 --> 00:08:28.600 So today see what can do with George if he's 119 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:30.920 going to help us stop the madness. We have George 120 00:08:30.920 --> 00:08:35.679 Paulisner on the program. George is our resident political analysts, 121 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:40.120 environmentalist in curmudgeon, and is the founder of SIEV dot Works. 122 00:08:40.679 --> 00:08:43.679 He will give us information regarding what's happening or not 123 00:08:43.799 --> 00:08:46.960 happening on the hill, as well as the cowardice of 124 00:08:47.000 --> 00:08:50.879 the GOP as the Tao to the wanna be king 125 00:08:51.200 --> 00:08:54.159 who directs a war by what he feels in his bones. 126 00:08:55.120 --> 00:08:59.320 That's great, let's bomb them for fun, That's wonderful. 127 00:09:00.000 --> 00:09:01.840 I'm when they get rid of the positive news. What's 128 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:02.759 the negative news? 129 00:09:02.840 --> 00:09:06.039 You know? Anyway, I'm trying to find it. I know 130 00:09:06.080 --> 00:09:09.720 what's in there somewhere. But we'll delve into, uh, how 131 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:13.559 increased maybe renewable energy could have saved off the dependence 132 00:09:13.559 --> 00:09:16.080 of oil shipments through the straight of her moves because if. 133 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:18.720 We had renewable energy, we wouldn't even care. 134 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:22.440 At this point, we'll talk about Cuba and boy, that's 135 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:27.679 a horrible situation, the lifting of Russia, Russian sanctions, the 136 00:09:27.759 --> 00:09:28.759 woke media and. 137 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:30.960 More, and boy is so much. I don't know how 138 00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:36.279 much we'll get to. But George, welcome, welcome, welcome. 139 00:09:36.360 --> 00:09:39.159 Thank you. I was just gonna say, you know, these 140 00:09:39.159 --> 00:09:42.960 are truly times of desperation. If I'm the one that's 141 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:46.519 expected to stop the madness, I don't be the one 142 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:47.159 that starts it. 143 00:09:47.399 --> 00:09:50.639 You're you're there the we bow down, you know. 144 00:09:51.159 --> 00:09:55.440 So so watch the shady green quick. I'll give you mine, 145 00:09:55.440 --> 00:09:57.000 but tell me yours first. 146 00:09:57.360 --> 00:10:00.799 So well, I mean, if I could go Saint Patrick's 147 00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:05.879 Day green, the reality for me is it remains toxic 148 00:10:06.039 --> 00:10:11.200 sledge green, which, according to RFK Junior's brainworm is actually 149 00:10:11.320 --> 00:10:15.360 healthy and aproof for breakfast. And so a toxic sledge 150 00:10:15.399 --> 00:10:17.360 green is what I'm going with Megxine. 151 00:10:17.519 --> 00:10:20.600 Well, today we're taping on Saint Patti's Day. Uh, so 152 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:23.320 I'm gonna go like bright kind of Kelly green, because 153 00:10:23.879 --> 00:10:28.200 that's you know, Aaron Gobra and in omastra, President Biden. 154 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:34.039 Uh he said, Uh, there's a people say on Saint 155 00:10:34.080 --> 00:10:37.000 Patty's Day, one of the is this house runs on 156 00:10:37.039 --> 00:10:42.000 shenanigans and malarkey. But wait, it just sounds like the 157 00:10:42.039 --> 00:10:47.080 current White House shenanigans and malarkey, I tell you so. 158 00:10:47.559 --> 00:10:49.759 May remember moment was a popular word. 159 00:10:50.120 --> 00:10:53.200 Well Biden used it a lot. He used malarchy a. 160 00:10:53.159 --> 00:10:57.759 Lot, and I'll take Shenanigan said, mallarchy over abusive power 161 00:10:57.919 --> 00:10:58.440 and lies. 162 00:10:58.840 --> 00:11:04.919 And my shade of green, what is your? 163 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:08.000 My shade of green is when oil comes up from 164 00:11:08.080 --> 00:11:10.720 the ocean and mixes with the ocean water and you 165 00:11:10.759 --> 00:11:13.000 see this sort of like greenish. 166 00:11:13.799 --> 00:11:17.360 Have you ever seen the sadly this line. 167 00:11:17.399 --> 00:11:19.679 Sadly you'll be seeing more of that. You know that 168 00:11:19.720 --> 00:11:21.080 Santa Barbara is back up. 169 00:11:21.039 --> 00:11:26.279 And running, and it's also being dug by VP, who 170 00:11:26.879 --> 00:11:31.320 caused the last major the gold, which. 171 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:35.159 Is still not totally cleaning. I mean it's not that 172 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:36.200 will never be the same. 173 00:11:36.679 --> 00:11:39.519 And then they're digging deeper now, which is even worse. 174 00:11:40.000 --> 00:11:43.639 So in any event, I mean, I'm trying to do 175 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:47.159 on the show now something called green notes. This is 176 00:11:47.200 --> 00:11:50.519 this is something all it is is basically like an 177 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:54.840 environmental good thing. So you know, we know that we 178 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:57.919 have to reduce a reliance on fossil fuels and reduce 179 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:02.720 greenhouse gas emissions. And and if if we had these 180 00:12:03.159 --> 00:12:06.759 if we had these renewables, again, as I said before, 181 00:12:06.759 --> 00:12:09.840 we wouldn't have to rely on the oil tankers going 182 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:11.759 through the Strait of Hormoves. 183 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:15.559 So what say you, George on this? 184 00:12:15.720 --> 00:12:22.200 I mean, so Bill mckibbon put it best. Bill said 185 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:25.840 that energy from the Sun travels ninety three million miles 186 00:12:25.840 --> 00:12:28.720 to Earth without ever having to pass through the Strait 187 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:33.080 of horn Moves. And he also talked about the fact 188 00:12:33.559 --> 00:12:37.720 that solar is now forty one percent cheaper than the 189 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:41.440 lowest cost fossil fewer wind is fifty three percent cheaper. 190 00:12:41.960 --> 00:12:44.600 And so these are all these are all good things, 191 00:12:44.679 --> 00:12:48.320 I mean, and it's probably good to get the good 192 00:12:48.360 --> 00:12:51.120 things out of the way first, and then you know, 193 00:12:51.200 --> 00:12:52.919 the first thirty seconds. 194 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:54.000 First the good news. 195 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:58.159 You know, it's it also, it generates power without greenhouse 196 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:03.639 gas emissions. It's sustainable, it's inexhaustible, and. 197 00:13:02.480 --> 00:13:06.440 It's growing, growing substantially, like for example, wind and solar 198 00:13:07.240 --> 00:13:12.759 grew I think eight hundred and thirty tarawatt hours over 199 00:13:12.799 --> 00:13:17.960 the past year, whereas natural gas only grew twenty tarrawatt hours, 200 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:24.080 and folks that shifted away from Russian gas started to 201 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:29.960 consume Katari liquid natural gas. And so they're finding out 202 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:33.159 that that was They really need to get off both 203 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:36.360 platforms and get on solar and wind and renewables. 204 00:13:37.360 --> 00:13:40.840 Our guests make confused, as a supposedly we have the 205 00:13:40.879 --> 00:13:42.639 smartest businessman in the world. 206 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:44.080 We'll be this. 207 00:13:44.960 --> 00:13:48.480 Why why do the big oil companies, which supposedly have 208 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:53.039 bright people working for them, why aren't they working on 209 00:13:53.320 --> 00:13:58.399 the solar and dark energy to control it as they 210 00:13:58.440 --> 00:13:59.080 do the oil. 211 00:13:59.440 --> 00:14:03.000 There's lots of smart people. There's also people that have 212 00:14:03.039 --> 00:14:07.759 an incredible amount of concentrated wealth and power. And that's 213 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:13.200 the problem. Is the folks that have accumulated incredible wealth 214 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:18.720 and power have insatiable greed, and they can't control wind 215 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:23.440 and solar. For the most part, they can control finite 216 00:14:23.480 --> 00:14:29.159 extractive resources, and so they will continue. I guess it's 217 00:14:29.200 --> 00:14:31.840 like the old coffee commercials, good to the last drop. 218 00:14:32.360 --> 00:14:37.000 They will continue to accelerate by whatever means necessary, by 219 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:41.200 whatever war's necessary, to extract the last drop of oil 220 00:14:41.279 --> 00:14:42.240 and profit from it. 221 00:14:42.679 --> 00:14:45.639 Yeah, but these big guys can't They put up that 222 00:14:45.720 --> 00:14:48.600 you need money to put up the infrastructure that would 223 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:52.879 you know, convert the sunshine and the wind into the power. 224 00:14:53.200 --> 00:14:54.960 You could get portable units. 225 00:14:55.000 --> 00:14:57.679 They do that hold on in Germany or some I 226 00:14:57.720 --> 00:14:59.799 forgot if it was Germany or somewhere else. They have 227 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:05.720 portable now units that they're putting on their terraces and 228 00:15:05.759 --> 00:15:10.519 it's giving them thirty percent of their energy just by 229 00:15:10.559 --> 00:15:15.600 having this. It almost looks that it's it's a material 230 00:15:15.679 --> 00:15:19.919 kind of thing, almost because it's very pliable. And I mean, 231 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:24.879 they don't have a lease on the sun, these big guys, 232 00:15:25.440 --> 00:15:25.879 they don't. 233 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:31.200 And they're subsidized by taxpayers too. And you know this, Malcolm. 234 00:15:31.240 --> 00:15:37.960 They get some significant subsidies, taxpayer subsidies to continue extractive 235 00:15:38.000 --> 00:15:42.440 mechanisms that are armful to the climate and harmful to society. 236 00:15:42.919 --> 00:15:46.559 And they don't stop because you have people like Trump 237 00:15:46.600 --> 00:15:49.120 getting up at a dinner in mar A Lago saying, 238 00:15:49.440 --> 00:15:51.879 give me a billion dollars for my campaign, and you 239 00:15:51.919 --> 00:15:55.159 can do whatever you want. And so it's all about 240 00:15:55.320 --> 00:15:59.320 power and satiable greed and control. There are plenty of 241 00:15:59.320 --> 00:16:04.679 smart people that are continuing to develop mechanisms for solar 242 00:16:04.759 --> 00:16:08.279 and wind, but remember this, you know when it comes 243 00:16:08.279 --> 00:16:12.039 to wind energy. And this was just in the news 244 00:16:12.600 --> 00:16:17.360 that the federal government under Trump is now putting together 245 00:16:17.440 --> 00:16:23.799 a package drafting agreements to cancel a massive offshore wind 246 00:16:23.840 --> 00:16:27.000 project in exchange for a billion dollars going to a 247 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:31.279 French company, Total Energies. So Total Energies had leased offshore 248 00:16:31.399 --> 00:16:35.159 land for a major wind farm project to produce significant 249 00:16:35.159 --> 00:16:40.480 amount of renewable, clean, sustainable energy, and Trump is stopping it. 250 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:44.399 And so it doesn't matter that you have smart people 251 00:16:44.519 --> 00:16:48.240 working on mechanisms to generate energy when you have people 252 00:16:48.360 --> 00:16:54.679 like corrupt, criminal people like Trump and big oil working 253 00:16:54.720 --> 00:16:57.759 in concert to extract that last drop of oil. 254 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:03.840 I like a GM Kimmel comment on the Academy Awards. 255 00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:09.559 Did you hear that things so no about you know 256 00:17:09.599 --> 00:17:13.079 France And they said, well, we don't like pedophiles. 257 00:17:13.759 --> 00:17:15.119 That was about there. 258 00:17:15.359 --> 00:17:17.279 Yeah, he said that this is the first time there 259 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:22.440 wasn't one British person nominated as an actor or actress. 260 00:17:22.759 --> 00:17:26.759 Uh and and he was saying, but they but hey, 261 00:17:26.799 --> 00:17:30.279 they know head of what didn't take care of pedophiles, 262 00:17:30.640 --> 00:17:33.960 you know, something like that, the rust pedophiles they risk 263 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:36.119 at least they arrest pedophiles. 264 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:38.960 Traditionally they only need Judy Dune in a movie for 265 00:17:39.000 --> 00:17:42.000 a minute to say, you know, thank you, and she 266 00:17:42.079 --> 00:17:43.559 gets the nomination. 267 00:17:43.839 --> 00:17:49.640 Yeah, you know, very possible. But I mean, yeah, they're there. Yeah, 268 00:17:49.839 --> 00:17:52.119 there were some funny there was some funny lines by 269 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:52.799 Conan two. 270 00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:54.880 I won't repeat it, but yeah. 271 00:17:54.960 --> 00:17:57.839 But they then you realize there's so much bull going 272 00:17:57.880 --> 00:18:00.920 around that we don't even talk about the episode follows anymore. 273 00:18:01.240 --> 00:18:03.119 Yeah, well that's the hard coverage. 274 00:18:03.480 --> 00:18:04.200 Wag the dog. 275 00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:07.640 You know, there there is people, There are people online 276 00:18:07.720 --> 00:18:10.920 still saying, you know where the files bahdah blah. I 277 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:14.160 just it's the mainstream media, I mean, the woke media. 278 00:18:14.200 --> 00:18:16.160 I don't know where you want to go now because 279 00:18:16.200 --> 00:18:19.680 there's so many things we have, you know, the lifting 280 00:18:19.720 --> 00:18:23.279 of the Russian sanctions Trump, you know, did that is his? 281 00:18:24.119 --> 00:18:28.079 The selling oil and speaking of China and giving infoto Iran. 282 00:18:28.839 --> 00:18:31.279 I'm just wondering if if Brendan Kurr listens to our 283 00:18:31.720 --> 00:18:32.920 brocas Yeah, I'm. 284 00:18:32.799 --> 00:18:35.960 Sure he'll probably throw me the hell out, Okay. 285 00:18:35.920 --> 00:18:40.680 I I well, in terms of the Epstein Trump Maxwell files, 286 00:18:41.599 --> 00:18:44.759 I was reminded by Cicero for a famous quote that 287 00:18:44.839 --> 00:18:49.759 says in times of war, the law falls silent, and 288 00:18:49.799 --> 00:18:54.799 so that is probably a very old wag the dog tail, 289 00:18:55.759 --> 00:19:00.319 but just as timely today as it was when Zero 290 00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:03.519 said it. But I mean the reality is, and We've 291 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:06.200 talked about this on previous shows, and I've written about it. 292 00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:11.920 The GOP and as you say, I mean, they were 293 00:19:12.200 --> 00:19:17.839 fairly absent, and thankfully because when they are convened, they're 294 00:19:17.880 --> 00:19:22.400 either abdicating their oath of office in their absolute fealty 295 00:19:22.759 --> 00:19:28.519 and cowardice to Trump, or they're passing things like the 296 00:19:28.599 --> 00:19:31.359 Save Act, which was passed in the House, which we 297 00:19:31.480 --> 00:19:34.240 may have time to talk about it later, it definitely is. 298 00:19:34.519 --> 00:19:36.960 It's being debated right now in the Senate, and it's 299 00:19:37.039 --> 00:19:44.039 worth talking about. But the House has abdicated the responsibility 300 00:19:44.119 --> 00:19:49.519 to the oath of office. And then you have people 301 00:19:49.880 --> 00:19:56.400 like eat Keg's breath, who actually has just talking about 302 00:19:56.559 --> 00:19:59.599 no quarter is a war crime in and of itself, 303 00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:04.759 and talking happens right, and talk about that's right, talk 304 00:20:04.759 --> 00:20:09.240 about displacing the Epstein, Trump Maxwell files. We're not even 305 00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:11.759 hearing about the boats that are being blown out of 306 00:20:11.759 --> 00:20:15.880 the water, international waters, murder on the high seas committed 307 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:22.519 by this administration, and the thought of no quarter is 308 00:20:23.839 --> 00:20:27.799 an absolute war crime. And when you talk about it 309 00:20:27.960 --> 00:20:31.960 for the potential to expand the conflict in Iran, the 310 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:34.759 war in Iran that has been started by Yahu and 311 00:20:34.799 --> 00:20:38.480 Trump and the deployment of Marines as ground troops. If 312 00:20:38.599 --> 00:20:41.759 suddenly there is no such thing as a Geneva convention 313 00:20:41.880 --> 00:20:46.440 and no protections, you're basically sending our sons and daughters 314 00:20:46.480 --> 00:20:50.480 and sisters and brothers and moms and dads into a 315 00:20:50.640 --> 00:20:54.200 war in which, hey, you know, torture is cool. There 316 00:20:54.759 --> 00:20:58.319 there's no quarter. You can just shoot people without taking 317 00:20:58.359 --> 00:21:03.960 them prisoner. It's absolutely disgusting, and the media doesn't even 318 00:21:04.039 --> 00:21:05.880 it covers it for a minute and then goes on 319 00:21:05.960 --> 00:21:06.640 to you. 320 00:21:06.599 --> 00:21:08.759 Know, the. 321 00:21:10.799 --> 00:21:13.759 Something like that happened about fifty years sixty sixty years 322 00:21:13.759 --> 00:21:19.200 already ago place called Vietnam. If it's the same type 323 00:21:19.200 --> 00:21:24.839 of warfare or or not paying attention to any on them, Yeah. 324 00:21:24.880 --> 00:21:27.759 I would say it's even worse, Malcolm, because we should 325 00:21:27.799 --> 00:21:31.960 be evolving intellectually as a species in terms of you know, 326 00:21:32.119 --> 00:21:38.200 fundamental you know, humanitarian uh morality, and the fact that 327 00:21:38.200 --> 00:21:42.240 that we've regressed so far with this administration what is 328 00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:47.200 effectively a criminally corrupt administration. Uh. It fills me with 329 00:21:47.319 --> 00:21:48.240 absolute disgust. 330 00:21:48.279 --> 00:21:52.599 I mean, your reality is sort of like to the 331 00:21:52.839 --> 00:21:54.599 to the left of Chump's reality. 332 00:21:54.759 --> 00:21:56.480 That's not a real thing that you're talking about. 333 00:21:56.640 --> 00:21:58.039 It's not it's not left or right. 334 00:21:58.079 --> 00:21:58.799 Has it happened? 335 00:21:59.400 --> 00:22:02.640 It's not left to write, Malcolm, it is. It's basically 336 00:22:02.880 --> 00:22:08.039 fundamental morality. And it doesn't matter if you're conservative or liberal. 337 00:22:09.000 --> 00:22:13.960 You know, there's a fundamental thought of justice, democracy, uh, 338 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:19.279 and equality and people regardless of you know, where you 339 00:22:19.319 --> 00:22:23.119 stand on what's an appropriate long term capital gains rate, 340 00:22:23.720 --> 00:22:26.000 which is where the real argument should be in terms 341 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:29.519 of conservatives and liberals. Uh. You know, you have to 342 00:22:29.519 --> 00:22:33.200 fundamentally agree that we have a constitution, that we have 343 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:36.880 rule of law, because if you reject all of that, 344 00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:41.279 then you're really the the insurrectionists, not you know, not 345 00:22:41.400 --> 00:22:43.839 people that that that effectively. 346 00:22:43.319 --> 00:22:46.200 Say happen might makes right. 347 00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:52.359 That Mike does not. Mike does not really make right. 348 00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:54.920 And I'm just going to get off this a second 349 00:22:54.960 --> 00:22:59.480 because I wate. 350 00:22:58.039 --> 00:22:59.799 Okay, no, I don't want to I'm not. I'm not. 351 00:23:00.039 --> 00:23:01.680 I don't want to hear about it because we have 352 00:23:01.799 --> 00:23:03.400 devils and fools all around. 353 00:23:03.720 --> 00:23:05.519 But I just want to do it. I know we're 354 00:23:05.519 --> 00:23:07.039 going to hit the brake soon, so let me get 355 00:23:07.079 --> 00:23:07.359 this in. 356 00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:08.599 Okay. 357 00:23:08.680 --> 00:23:15.200 This is from the Academy Awards. Director David Bornstein won 358 00:23:15.559 --> 00:23:20.400 for Documentary for Mister Nobody against Putin, and he said 359 00:23:21.279 --> 00:23:24.680 it was about how to lose your country. It wasn't 360 00:23:24.759 --> 00:23:28.839 just about Russia. It was about every country where silence 361 00:23:28.880 --> 00:23:35.119 becomes surrender, where corruption, oligarchy, and state violence thrive because 362 00:23:35.160 --> 00:23:38.920 too many people look away. He said that tyranny doesn't 363 00:23:38.960 --> 00:23:43.839 announce itself overnight. It grows in the quiet, one ignored 364 00:23:44.200 --> 00:23:48.519 injustice at a time, one censored story at a time, 365 00:23:48.839 --> 00:23:53.480 one fearful silence at a time. And then the last 366 00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:56.880 line was a warning in rallying cry all at once, 367 00:23:56.920 --> 00:24:00.240 when he said, even and nobody is more powerful then 368 00:24:00.279 --> 00:24:04.240 you think, because every nobody who speaks up and refuses 369 00:24:04.279 --> 00:24:08.119 to comply with cruelty becomes the reason a country finds 370 00:24:08.119 --> 00:24:08.960 its spine again. 371 00:24:10.240 --> 00:24:15.200 That was all an amazing speech, powerfully eloquent. 372 00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:16.119 That was great, I. 373 00:24:16.079 --> 00:24:20.559 Mean, beautifully done and just like blew me away that 374 00:24:20.640 --> 00:24:23.599 because that just took you where it is. 375 00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:28.640 He said it just right out outright, and and that's. 376 00:24:28.519 --> 00:24:31.720 Why you know, I watched it to see what was 377 00:24:31.720 --> 00:24:33.359 going to come out of it, and that to me, 378 00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:36.880 came out of it out of everything I saw, and 379 00:24:36.960 --> 00:24:39.680 so uh and and I got to see that movie now. 380 00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:41.039 I don't know if it's streaming. 381 00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:41.359 I don't know. 382 00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:43.119 If you watch it, they'll pick you up and come 383 00:24:43.119 --> 00:24:45.599 to your house. I have no idea. I mean, you know, 384 00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:49.119 just just just the name of it is UH is 385 00:24:50.160 --> 00:24:54.480 mister Nobody against Putin. So all the people in this 386 00:24:54.559 --> 00:24:58.200 country who think they're nobody, they're not, and more of us. 387 00:24:58.160 --> 00:25:00.880 Who get together, hopefully on March twenty eighth, it'll be huge. 388 00:25:00.920 --> 00:25:02.279 And how are you working on that? Right? 389 00:25:03.640 --> 00:25:07.000 So yeah, so we'll we'll uh, we'll talk more about 390 00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:10.000 that after the break, all right, So we'll be back 391 00:25:10.039 --> 00:25:14.960 with Georgie Paulisner with more info on UH. I keep 392 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:18.519 saying the dismantling of democracy in America, but we have 393 00:25:18.599 --> 00:25:22.079 a responsibility as the nobody's to make this better. So 394 00:25:22.079 --> 00:25:24.640 please stay tuned and come on back after the break. 395 00:25:25.240 --> 00:25:33.119 Hudson River Radio dot com. 396 00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:44.559 Hudson River Radio dot com. 397 00:25:40.359 --> 00:25:47.119 Hudson River Radio dot com. 398 00:25:47.160 --> 00:26:09.359 This is Hudson River Radio dot com. 399 00:26:09.599 --> 00:26:13.359 So we're back with George Paulaisner we're going to talk 400 00:26:13.400 --> 00:26:14.680 about war. 401 00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:18.559