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<v Speaker 1>It's finally become socially acceptable for liberals to notice that

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<v Speaker 1>California is not doing so hot. It's finally socially acceptable

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<v Speaker 1>for liberals to notice that, hey, California has had fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>years of unimpeded Democrat rule and yet and yet things

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<v Speaker 1>aren't so great there. Not everything is hunky dory, And

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<v Speaker 1>it's sort of leading to questions about the so called

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<v Speaker 1>expertise of the experts, of the sort of technocratic class

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<v Speaker 1>that democrats love and have embraced and embody, and the

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of the ways in which they have decided to govern.

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<v Speaker 1>This has impacted a lot of things. Well, let's go

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<v Speaker 1>from things like housing and all kinds of stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>There are so many areas of classically bad liberal governance

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<v Speaker 1>California environmental law, the high speed rail system, all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of bad things. I want to go to. Community colleges

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<v Speaker 1>not often the butt end of our jokes and critiques

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<v Speaker 1>of California's inept system of governance. And yet this story

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<v Speaker 1>is so bad it's hilarious. It's about scammers stealing millions

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars from California's community colleges. This is from a

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<v Speaker 1>piece in cal Matters calmatters dot org, written by Adam Ecklman.

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<v Speaker 1>For years, scammers have targeted community colleges across the state,

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<v Speaker 1>posing as students in order to steal money from scholarships

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<v Speaker 1>or government financial aid. Recent state reports suggest that the

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<v Speaker 1>problem is getting worse, and college leaders say they're worried

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<v Speaker 1>that the Trump administration's cuts to the US Department of

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<v Speaker 1>Education could hamper fraud prevention and investigations. So, of course

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<v Speaker 1>the media the article tries to paint this as a

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<v Speaker 1>Trump administration problem. But let's let us continue, shall we.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty twenty one height of COVID, the California Community

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<v Speaker 1>College's Chancellor's office reported that about twenty percent of college

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<v Speaker 1>applicants were likely fake, So a fifth of all people

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<v Speaker 1>applying for the community colleges were not real human beings.

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<v Speaker 1>In January of twenty twenty four, just a year ago,

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen months ago, the state said it was about twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five percent. Now, just a year later, the number is

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four percent. So fully a third of everybody applying

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<v Speaker 1>for community college in California is not a real person,

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<v Speaker 1>is a fraudster, and it's probably more than that. Those

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<v Speaker 1>are all the ones that are getting stopped, said John Hetz,

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<v Speaker 1>the Executive Vice Chancellor for the Data Team at the

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<v Speaker 1>Chancellor's office. The scammers that aren't stopped have stolen millions

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<v Speaker 1>in taxpayer dollars. Calmetters reported that these fake students receive

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<v Speaker 1>more than five million dollars from the federal government and

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<v Speaker 1>nearly one point five million dollars from the state, according

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<v Speaker 1>to anonymized reports that colleges submitted to the state from

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<v Speaker 1>September twenty twenty one through December twenty twenty three. Faculties

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<v Speaker 1>say they're exasperated from working as detectives trying to suss

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<v Speaker 1>out which students surreal. They say scammers are increasingly relying

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<v Speaker 1>on artificial intelligence to infiltrate classes, using tools like chat

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<v Speaker 1>GPT to pose as students. Students say these fraudsters are

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<v Speaker 1>taking coveted seats and preventing them from enrolling in classes

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<v Speaker 1>they need to graduate. In the last twelve months, colleges

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<v Speaker 1>have reported giving away giving more than ten million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>in federal dollars to fake students, so just in the

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<v Speaker 1>last twelve months. In the last year, colleges have reported

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<v Speaker 1>that they've given ten million dollars to fake students. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the federal money and three million dollars in state money,

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<v Speaker 1>so thirteen million dollars just in the last year. Data

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<v Speaker 1>from the first few months of twenty twenty five show

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<v Speaker 1>that colleges have already given away more than three million

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<v Speaker 1>in federal aid and over seven hundred thousand in state dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're on track for about twelve million dollars, about

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<v Speaker 1>almost fifteen million dollars for this year. The scope of

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<v Speaker 1>fraud is relatively small, said Chris Ferguson. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if the amount of fraud is relatively small. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fifteen million more dollars than I have, said Chris Ferguson,

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<v Speaker 1>a finance executive at the Chancellor's office, especially when compared

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<v Speaker 1>to the roughly one point seven billion dollars in federal

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<v Speaker 1>aid and one point five billion dollars in state aid

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<v Speaker 1>to California's community college students last year. He also said

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<v Speaker 1>it's likely that colleges have improved their ability to detect

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<v Speaker 1>fraud over time, potentially inflating the reporting numbers. Why would

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<v Speaker 1>that inflate the reporting numbers if they are getting better

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<v Speaker 1>at detecting fraud, I mean wouldn't just mean that their

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<v Speaker 1>numbers before were inadequate anyway. State lawmakers of allocation did

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<v Speaker 1>roughly one hundred and fifty million dollars towards cybersecurity in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two, and the Chancellor's office has brought in

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<v Speaker 1>numerous tech companies, including id dot me and to n

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<v Speaker 1>in Lexus Nexus to help authenticate students. Here's a way,

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't you have the student show up with an

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<v Speaker 1>ID to talk to a human being at this community call.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wait, I forgot. We're still trying to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretend you know, kobuki theater, silliness of being concerned about

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<v Speaker 1>in person classes and blah blah blah blah blah. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>we're bringing in all these tech companies to help authenticate students.

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<v Speaker 1>But Hets said none of these interventions will ever completely

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<v Speaker 1>eliminate fraud, because each time the state gets better at

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<v Speaker 1>fighting fraud, the bad actors adapt the tech equivalent to

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<v Speaker 1>the red queen hypothesis. Not sure what that is. College

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<v Speaker 1>leaders also rely on the Federal Education Department to help

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<v Speaker 1>find scammers. The department is broadly responsible for administering federal

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<v Speaker 1>financial aid and for preventing and investigating related fraud. The

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<v Speaker 1>office that administers federal aid has lost about half of

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<v Speaker 1>its staff through layoffs, voluntary buyouts, and retirements. California Attorney

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<v Speaker 1>General Rob Bonte recently joined other Democratic Attorneys general ensuing

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump administration over these cuts, alleging they violate the constitution.

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<v Speaker 1>Although not technically part of the lawsuit or the layoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>The Education Department's Office of Inspector General, which is responsible

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<v Speaker 1>for fraud detection, so the state employees who are supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to look into fraud, none of them have been touched here.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the Federal Department of Education fraud detection people

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<v Speaker 1>have been laid off or have resigned. Since October first,

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<v Speaker 1>the Office of Inspector General has lost more than twenty

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<v Speaker 1>percent of its staff, said Catherine Grant, a spokesperson for

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<v Speaker 1>the office, including experienced auditors and investigators. As as for

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<v Speaker 1>how these staffing changes affect the Office of Inspector General's

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<v Speaker 1>ability to investigate student aid fraud in California, we are

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<v Speaker 1>committed to fighting student aid fraud wherever. That's not an

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<v Speaker 1>answer as to how these staffing changes will affect their

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<v Speaker 1>ability to investigate, And then they don't say how we

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<v Speaker 1>are limited with what we can do based on our

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<v Speaker 1>limited resources, so basically, and then it goes on to

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<v Speaker 1>tell the story about how at Berkeley City College, how

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<v Speaker 1>students were able to get around get around it, and

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<v Speaker 1>how professors one professor was saying a librarian, Heather Dodge,

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<v Speaker 1>who works at Berkeley City College. It writes about her

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<v Speaker 1>to connect with students and make the classes more engaging.

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<v Speaker 1>Dodge said she always began the course by asking students

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<v Speaker 1>to submit a video introducing themselves using their webcam or

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<v Speaker 1>an iPhone. It's a very low bar, she said, but

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<v Speaker 1>quote I started noticing that there would be a handful

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<v Speaker 1>of students that wouldn't submit that assignment in the first week.

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<v Speaker 1>First she would send them a message, and then if

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<v Speaker 1>they still didn't respond, she'd drop them from the class.

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<v Speaker 1>As long as the teacher drops a student within a

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<v Speaker 1>certain timeframe, in this case, the first week, their enrollment

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<v Speaker 1>in that class is void and the student can't seek

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<v Speaker 1>financial aid for that course. After the first week, however,

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<v Speaker 1>it's harder to remove them. This semester, she said, she

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<v Speaker 1>started with thirty five students within the first week. She

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<v Speaker 1>kicked out a few students who didn't submit a video

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<v Speaker 1>before students found a work around sending her a written

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<v Speaker 1>response instead. The text was generic, she said, like something

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<v Speaker 1>chat GPT would write, but she wasn't willing to drop

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<v Speaker 1>them from the course. Are these students who are having

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<v Speaker 1>technological challenges? Maybe they didn't have a webcam, maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't understand the assign again, have them show up to

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<v Speaker 1>the college. Stop doing all this remote crap. COVID's done.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop pretending otherwise. It was really hard to suss out

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on with it. It's not that hard

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<v Speaker 1>to say, I'm not blaming this one, you know, teacher

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<v Speaker 1>at Berkeley City College. It's easy to fix this, Dodge said.

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<v Speaker 1>She's also worried about how it looks to drop so

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<v Speaker 1>many students in a class. Well, yeah, and this shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be on her. Community college's funding is largely pegged to enrollment,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Peralta community college district where Dodge teaches is

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<v Speaker 1>suffering from enrollment to clients and faces major financial losses

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<v Speaker 1>if they see I'm running a class it starts with

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five students and ends with fifteen. That looks terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, of course it looks tir I feel bad

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<v Speaker 1>for she shouldn't have to be that the individual community

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<v Speaker 1>college teachers shouldn't be the ones doing this. The administration

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<v Speaker 1>should be smart enough to realize, hey, like a third

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<v Speaker 1>of everyone applying is a scammer. More than that are

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<v Speaker 1>probably getting through. Have some requirement that someone show up

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<v Speaker 1>to something like this isn't hard and the idea all

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<v Speaker 1>we got to blame the Trump administration for not helping

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<v Speaker 1>detect front. No, you can manage this on your own.

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<v Speaker 1>There are low tech solutions to this. The bots impersonate

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<v Speaker 1>homeless students and former foster youth. By statute, California's community

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<v Speaker 1>colleges are required to accept any legitimate student, and state

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<v Speaker 1>leaders have spent decades to trying to make it easier

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<v Speaker 1>for students to enroll. Community college districts must sign an

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<v Speaker 1>affidavit swearing the veracity of their information, but otherwise many

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<v Speaker 1>colleges don't independently verify a student's address or identity. Why

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<v Speaker 1>the heck not? We serve a large proportion of students

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<v Speaker 1>who may not have documentation for a variety of reasons. No, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're talking about genuinely homeless students, all right, but

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<v Speaker 1>it is not a large proportion of your students who

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<v Speaker 1>cannot provide you with any kind of documentation of that

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<v Speaker 1>you live somewhere or that you're a real human being.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's got a social Security card, everyone's got a driver's license.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a large proportion of students who may not

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<v Speaker 1>have documentation for a variety of reasons, SI heads, such

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<v Speaker 1>as students who are homeless, those who are undocumented, and

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<v Speaker 1>those who are leaving the foster care system or don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a relationship with their parents.

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<v Speaker 2>But still like, if you're going to community college, presumably

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<v Speaker 2>you've got a driver's license, you've got a social Security card,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got some kind of ID.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess undocumented immigrants that that's another you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole different can of worms where we have to have,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, political arguments at any rate. It's just yet

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<v Speaker 1>another example of California is very comfortably ruled by sort

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<v Speaker 1>of one class of people, and they're all very comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>in their expertise. They're all very comfortable, and how smart

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<v Speaker 1>they are, they're all very comfortable, and how professional they are,

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<v Speaker 1>and how credentialed they are. And when you just scratch

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<v Speaker 1>this veneer of competence, you pretty quickly find out these

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<v Speaker 1>are not very competent people. These aren't like the smartest

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<v Speaker 1>people in the world. They're just as dopey as anybody else,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're getting But the problem is, I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>is far from the biggest scam that has robbed taxpayers

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<v Speaker 1>in California. I don't know how many of you guys

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<v Speaker 1>remember like the number of people who are just absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>bilking the state, the state through its unemployment agency, and

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<v Speaker 1>how we were losing like billions of dollars in unemployment

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<v Speaker 1>benefits that we're just going out to total scammers, including

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<v Speaker 1>this one rapper who literally did a rap song about

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<v Speaker 1>scamming the state of California out of the Employment Development Division,

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<v Speaker 1>the EDD scamming EDD out of money like it's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>But then sort of the helpless attitude of this article

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<v Speaker 1>where we try to be so lenient with homeless students,

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<v Speaker 1>which I just cannot imagine. There are that many homeless

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<v Speaker 1>students whose identity you cannot verify through any other means.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't use a Social Security card, you can't find

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<v Speaker 1>a birth certificate, you can't on record, you can't find

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<v Speaker 1>any other way to verify that someone's a real human being.

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<v Speaker 1>And beyond that the community colleges they're getting skilled. When

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<v Speaker 1>scamed left, right and centered. They're getting scammed with wildfire relief,

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<v Speaker 1>a big story about how fully a third of every

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<v Speaker 1>and actually it might be more than that. Many people

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<v Speaker 1>how can we stop online scammers who are applying for

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<v Speaker 1>aid and bilking the state out of millions and the

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<v Speaker 1>helplessness that is on display. So here, the problem is

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<v Speaker 1>you have bots run by scammers applying for community college,

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<v Speaker 1>signing up for classes, and if they're in a class

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<v Speaker 1>for more than like a week, and I guess this

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<v Speaker 1>must be all remote learning classes. If they're in a

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<v Speaker 1>The horses out of the barn. And I can think

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<v Speaker 1>of several solutions, like, hey, stop having stop having so

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<v Speaker 1>many remote classes number one. Number two. Maybe just requires

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<v Speaker 1>crazy idea. It just seems like there's so many low

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<v Speaker 1>helpless waifs, unable to solve the problem. So the State

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<v Speaker 1>Chancellor's Office for the community colleges throughout the state contracted

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<v Speaker 1>with id dot me to provide verification through the state's

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<v Speaker 1>college application portal. But students aren't required to use it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>then what the heck's what's the point of it. However,

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<v Speaker 1>local districts can impose more stringent requirements. Why why did

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<v Speaker 1>used for a while. Nicole Albo Lopez, the deputy chancellor

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<v Speaker 1>was more lenient with college applicants who appeared to be

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<v Speaker 1>homeless or former foster youth, but quote the bots figured

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<v Speaker 1>that out again that they keep trying to use this excuse.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we didn't want to have people submit like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>address verification, you know, verification materials because they might be homeless,

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<v Speaker 3>which is like okay, First, how many homeless students are

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<v Speaker 1>This seems I don't know, it seems like a fishy excuse. Secondly,

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<v Speaker 1>how many foster youth are applying? And why would foster

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<v Speaker 1>youth or former foster youth not have like any materials

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<v Speaker 1>available to verify who they are? Like that really nobody

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<v Speaker 1>has a social Security number. Last year, the deputy chancellor

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<v Speaker 1>for the LA Community College District, which I have to

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<v Speaker 1>imagine is you know, overseeing gazillions of community college students.

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<v Speaker 1>She said that her district purged roughly a quarter of

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<v Speaker 1>all class registrations because of potentially fraudulent activity. So a

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<v Speaker 1>and changed its policy requiring almost all students to verify

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<v Speaker 1>their identity. Again, why not just have the student show

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<v Speaker 1>up so that you see it's a real person. It

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<v Speaker 1>also paid so cure an identity verification company just over

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and fifty thousand dollars to help with its

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<v Speaker 1>fraud detection. Again, why not just have a policy of

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<v Speaker 1>show up with something that shows you're a human being

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<v Speaker 1>with a name, like show up with your driver's license.

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<v Speaker 1>How many people are signed up for classes at an

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<v Speaker 1>LA community college. You don't have a driver's license, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a birth certificate, you don't have a driver's license,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have a social security like something. But fraud attempting.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you just required someone to show up

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<v Speaker 1>one time before this, even if you want to do

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<v Speaker 1>all remote learning still by the way, it's twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>COVID is done. I don't understand why you have to

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<v Speaker 1>have these community college buildings. Just have them show up

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<v Speaker 1>at least one time, show some identification, say hi, my

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<v Speaker 1>name is so and so I am here, take their picture,

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<v Speaker 1>make sure the picture doesn't match someone else in the system,

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<v Speaker 1>and on you go. I don't understand why you need

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and fifty thousand dollars from an identity verification company.

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<v Speaker 1>Fraud attempts persisted nonetheless as wildfires. Now this is great

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<v Speaker 1>as wildfires raged through Los Angeles County in January and

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<v Speaker 1>community college has raised millions to support students who lost

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<v Speaker 1>their homes. Scammers swooped in. Enrollment at East Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>College suddenly doubled that month, but many of the students

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<v Speaker 1>were likely fake, said Albo Lopez. People probably thought there

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be fire money at the San Diego

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<v Speaker 1>Community College District, where instances of fraud were also on

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<v Speaker 1>the right. By the way, this is a story from

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<v Speaker 1>cal Matters reporting on all this. Student services Dean Victor

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<v Speaker 1>de Vore said his district has found potentially fraudulent students

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<v Speaker 1>who passed the id dot me verification process. Now, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>his district screens all applicants, even those who have verified

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<v Speaker 1>their identity through id dot me. Well, so why did

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<v Speaker 1>we pay for id dot me. Dodge said that this

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<v Speaker 1>teacher from the Berkeley Community College said she asked administrators

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<v Speaker 1>had the authority to drop them from the course. The

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<v Speaker 1>with her over zoom, and but she said that the

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<v Speaker 1>other two students, the ones who never responded, are still

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<v Speaker 1>in the course. So there you go. Are incredibly competent,

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly efficient state government which basically is letting gazillions and

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<v Speaker 1>gazillions of people just come into community college, get financial

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<v Speaker 1>aid and just go on their merry way. Scammers and scammers, scammers,

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<v Speaker 1>scammers with gazillions of bots, siphoning millions of dollars. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>these are the smart These are the people who were

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<v Speaker 1>smarter than you. These were the people who knew better

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<v Speaker 1>than you about everything. These are the people who are

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<v Speaker 1>in control of California state government and have been in

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<v Speaker 1>control for fifteen years and are going to continue to

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<v Speaker 1>be in control now when we return. I had another

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<v Speaker 1>piece published in National Review talking about Javier Bisera that

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<v Speaker 1>I had another piece published in National Review. You can

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<v Speaker 1>slash Fresnejohnny at Fresno Johnny on Twitter on x I

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<v Speaker 1>You can also check out on Facebook the John Girardi

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<v Speaker 1>probably find it. So I had this piece published in

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<v Speaker 1>National Review, and the the subject of it was Javier Bisera,

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<v Speaker 1>our beloved Javier Bsara, former Attorney General of California, former

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<v Speaker 1>HHS secretary, and I talked about this on the show

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<v Speaker 1>a bit. But last week Bessarah announced that he was

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<v Speaker 1>in Los Angeles, in which he was given like opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>after opportunity. He was asked the question basically, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've had all these problems with unaffordability, high cost of

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<v Speaker 1>and we've had unified Democrat control for control going through

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<v Speaker 1>puberty on the radio, We've had unified Democrat control for

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<v Speaker 1>the last fifteen years. What would you do different And

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<v Speaker 1>but Sarah just proceeded to pay nothing. He talked a

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<v Speaker 1>saying he would do is that he would gather together

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<v Speaker 1>all the experts the best minds, gather together all the experts,

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<v Speaker 1>have them put all their ideas on the table, scrub

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<v Speaker 1>it out. He kept using that term, scrub out all

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<v Speaker 1>the ideas and find what's left, with no sort of

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<v Speaker 1>indication of like, all right, how are you qualifying someone

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<v Speaker 1>as an expert? What does scrubbing an idea mean? What

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<v Speaker 1>is the criteria which you will use to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sift through the ideas of the experts and come up

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<v Speaker 1>with some solution. Anyway, his but basically be Sarah was

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<v Speaker 1>presented multiple multiple times with the ability, Hey, say what

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<v Speaker 1>take it, like twice multiple times in this interview, is

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<v Speaker 4>And it.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, the interview was so bad. I had been joking

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<v Speaker 1>with people before because I mean, the thing that is

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<v Speaker 1>on everybody's mind is Kamala Harris. Will she or won't

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<v Speaker 1>two mutually exclusive paths that she can take. She can

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<v Speaker 1>for governor in twenty twenty six. She can run for

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<v Speaker 1>And I had been joking with people, sort of joking,

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<v Speaker 1>sort of serious texting people after but Sarah announced. I

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're both pretty much equally bad policy wise.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they're both rabid pro abortion folks. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>when you actually look at the laundry list of things

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<v Speaker 1>Besarah has done with regard to abortion, it's like nightmarish

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<v Speaker 1>the things he's voted for it because he was in

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<v Speaker 1>Besarah might be worse because I think he might be

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<v Speaker 1>smarter than Harris. Well, after watching that interview, I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of want to amend my statement. So here's a little

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<v Speaker 1>snippet of this interview. This is Lex Michaelson from ATV

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<v Speaker 1>Fox eleven and he is talking with Sarah. Oh. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>well he's trying to interrupt the radio show. Even Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>Expensive to live in California for a lot of people, right,

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<v Speaker 5>that housing affordability, It is all the rest of that.

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<v Speaker 5>But whose fault is that? Because Democrats have had a

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<v Speaker 5>super majority in Sacramento for decades now run every statewide office,

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<v Speaker 5>isn't that the Democrat's fault.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a growing issue we've had.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember, it's a growing issue. What do you mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>a growing issue. He asked you, is it the Democrat's fault?

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<v Speaker 1>And you said it's a growing issue. A great non response.

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<v Speaker 4>We've had Republican governors as well, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Arnold Twitzay, we've had Republican governors as well. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>last sighting of a Republican governor was in twenty eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>A Republican has not one, actually one a statewide elect

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<v Speaker 1>any Republican in a statewide office since January of twenty eleven. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>we continue with Besara's non answer, Sega.

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<v Speaker 5>Was elected in two thousand and six, I guarantee you

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<v Speaker 4>We're too expensive back then, but it's gone up a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>This is unbelievable. It's like Michaelson is like incredulous, like really,

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<v Speaker 1>you're blaming Schwarzenegger. And Besara's just sitting there laughing with

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you know though that Republicans are of course

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<v Speaker 1>partially at fault. No, I don't know the Republicans are

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<v Speaker 5>We continue in the last twenty years.

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<v Speaker 4>We have not tackled it the way we should.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think principally the reason we have this issue

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<v Speaker 6>in California on prices is because we haven't built enough,

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<v Speaker 6>and that means it's a type market. Everyone still wants

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<v Speaker 6>to come to California. People may be levy, but there

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<v Speaker 6>are a whole bunch of people who would love to

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<v Speaker 6>be at a living California.

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<v Speaker 5>But from a policy perspective, what specific change are you

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<v Speaker 5>proposing that would be different than the status quo right

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<v Speaker 5>now that would make a difference and make prices less

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<v Speaker 5>in California.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, so the table is set. Alex Michaelson from

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<v Speaker 1>KTTV Fox eleven in Los Angeles asks Jaby or Basera,

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<v Speaker 1>what specific thing would you do that is different from

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<v Speaker 1>the prior to governors, prior fifteen years prior fifteen years

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<v Speaker 1>of unified Democrat governance. What would you do that is

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<v Speaker 1>actually different. Let's see.

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<v Speaker 6>I can tell you that status quo business as usual

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<v Speaker 6>is not on California California voter's mind as the thing

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<v Speaker 6>to do. And so I think all of us are

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<v Speaker 6>going to be talking change. But here's what I would do.

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<v Speaker 6>I would take the experience I had having to lead

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<v Speaker 6>this country at the Department of Health and Human Services

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<v Speaker 6>out of a pandemic, a once in a lifetime pandemic,

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<v Speaker 6>having to negotiate for the first time in our history

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<v Speaker 6>the lower prices for prescription drugs of some of the

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<v Speaker 6>most expensive drugs that our seniors on Medicare program have

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<v Speaker 6>to use.

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<v Speaker 1>Note he hasn't answered the question. He's just talking about

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<v Speaker 1>stuff he did when he was Secretary of Health and

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<v Speaker 1>Human Services. And this is a politician thing. I hate

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<v Speaker 1>the defaulting to talking about seniors stuff and Medicare, which like,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, he wasn't asked a damn thing about

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<v Speaker 1>Medicare or seniors. He was asked about affordability of living

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<v Speaker 1>in California. But why does he do it? Because every

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<v Speaker 1>politician knows that the most reliable voters in America are

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<v Speaker 1>old people. So of course they start talking about, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>taking care of prescription drugs. Note he clearly was briefed

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<v Speaker 1>before this, this is the stuff you're gonna hit on.

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<v Speaker 1>You shoeorn it in. However, you can that you negotiated

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<v Speaker 1>drug prices to help seniors, Like, that's what you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about, no matter what the question is. This

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<v Speaker 1>is your answer. Kind of a Clinton esque move. We continue.

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<v Speaker 4>I would say, you need to bring the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, by the way, this is the actual answer. This

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<v Speaker 1>is his actual answer to what would you do differently

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<v Speaker 1>from the prior governors? What specific policy proposal would you give?

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<v Speaker 1>Here's his actual answer.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, you need to bring the problem right to the

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<v Speaker 6>table with the best experts there, you scrub it, and

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<v Speaker 6>then whatever is left, whatever's clean and survives.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what you do.

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<v Speaker 6>And we've not been willing to do that because of

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<v Speaker 6>all the politics, all the unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>So his answer was, let's gather all the best experts together,

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<v Speaker 1>put all their ideas on the table, scrub it out,

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<v Speaker 1>scrub out their ideas, and whatever's clean. He says, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what you do. That's not a solution, that's a means

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<v Speaker 1>of finding a solution. Why are you running for governor though?

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<v Speaker 1>Why should we have you run rather than I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>someone who maybe already has an idea. He also talks

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<v Speaker 1>about politics that basically he says that we haven't been

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<v Speaker 1>willing to do this, gather all the experts together, compile

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<v Speaker 1>their ideas, sus out what's the best idea because of

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<v Speaker 1>all the politics. And he does his hand wavy thing

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<v Speaker 1>as if, well, you know, you understand what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>all the politics, you know, all the silly politics. One,

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<v Speaker 1>as if he's not a very active participant in all

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<v Speaker 1>the politics. But two, what politics, Okay, Politics in California

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<v Speaker 1>is a certain kind of thing. One could say that

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<v Speaker 1>we don't really have politics because one side controls everything.

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<v Speaker 1>One side has three quarters of the seats in the

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<v Speaker 1>state Assembly and the state Senate. One side has maintained

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<v Speaker 1>the governorship for fifteen straight years now going on sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>One side has six of seven seats on the California

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<v Speaker 1>State Supreme Court. One side completely dominates the entire executive

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<v Speaker 1>branch bureaucracy. One side controls all of the various regulatory

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<v Speaker 1>boards and everything throughout up and down the state of California.

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<v Speaker 1>One side consistently has a sixty to forty more or

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<v Speaker 1>less advantage in California state wide elections year after year

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<v Speaker 1>after year. What politics, there's only one side. They control

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<v Speaker 1>the politics. They can do whatever they want. Democrats can

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever they want. Democrats can do anything they want anything.

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<v Speaker 1>So the idea that, oh, we haven't been able to

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<v Speaker 1>bring the experts together, what are you talking about. Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>love bringing experts together. Democrats love surveying the opinions of

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<v Speaker 1>academics and think tank people. They can do that anytime.

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<v Speaker 1>They could have done that at any time over the

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<v Speaker 1>last fifteen years. I'm sure they have done it multiple multiple,

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<v Speaker 1>multiple occasions, have done so. And it also it leads

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<v Speaker 1>me to this. You know, when we return, we'll discuss this.

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<v Speaker 1>Javier Besara doesn't actually have any of his own ideas.

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<v Speaker 1>He just wants to be a vessel for whatever the experts,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever they are want to do? That's next. On the

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<v Speaker 1>John Gerardi Show, Javier Basera, when given multiple opportunities to

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<v Speaker 1>say what he would actually do if he were elected

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<v Speaker 1>governor to help reduce prices to make California more affordable,

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<v Speaker 1>refused to say what he would do. Here he is

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<v Speaker 1>again talking with a local Fox News anchor in Los

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<v Speaker 1>Angeles who gives him yet another opportunity to say, what

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<v Speaker 1>specific policy proposal would you do? This is after already

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<v Speaker 1>giving this long, you know, filibustering non answer, saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I just gather experts, all the experts together and listen

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<v Speaker 1>what they have to say. Here's but Sarah again not

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<v Speaker 1>really answering.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait time to change.

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<v Speaker 5>But is there a specific policy change that you would

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<v Speaker 5>propose to make a difference on some of these affordability issues?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you can see this anchor his face is

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<v Speaker 1>dropping and he's like, I just asked you this just answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anything specific you would do? Here's be Sarah's answer.

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<v Speaker 4>So uh housing uh?

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<v Speaker 1>I think so oh good good. I'm glad you think

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<v Speaker 1>so you're running for governor.

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<v Speaker 4>Development.

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<v Speaker 6>I think everyone agrees we don't build enough. It's not

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<v Speaker 6>enough to say, okay, we all agree, we don't build

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<v Speaker 6>enough and they're not do anything about it. Okay, if

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<v Speaker 6>we all agree, then everyone from all sides of this

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<v Speaker 6>sit down.

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<v Speaker 4>Scrub it. Because this is what I had to do

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<v Speaker 4>with COVID.

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<v Speaker 6>This is what I had to do when we're trying

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<v Speaker 6>to get rid of monkey pox empocs. This is what

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<v Speaker 6>I had to do when we were figuring out what

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<v Speaker 6>prices to negotiate.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was figuring out what to do with EMPOS.

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<v Speaker 1>I really want to make some jokes about monkey pocks

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<v Speaker 1>slash empocs, but I mean I loved in mpocs when

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<v Speaker 1>they released these big public Californians. It is not primarily

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<v Speaker 1>a disease among gay men, and then of course it

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<v Speaker 1>was primarily a disease among gay men. Anyway, we continue MPOs.

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<v Speaker 6>This is what I had to do when we were

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<v Speaker 6>figuring out what prices to negotiate on the drugs. You

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<v Speaker 6>figure out where we could go, and then you go

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<v Speaker 6>and you just say, damn the torpedoes, we gotta go.

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<v Speaker 1>You figure out where you're gonna go, and then you go, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>what a great answer. He has no ideas he admitted

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<v Speaker 1>as much at AHHS. He just did whatever sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the expert slash activist class told him to do what

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Fauci Francis Collins told him to do, and apparently

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<v Speaker 1>that's what he wants to do in California. Just let

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<v Speaker 1>the experts. Let the experts run it again. Why don't

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<v Speaker 1>one of these experts just run for governor themselves rather

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<v Speaker 1>than you just being a cardboard box for their ideas.

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<v Speaker 1>That'll do it, John Droty Show, See you next time

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<v Speaker 1>on Power Talk
