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Speaker 1: Our guest today began her exploration of contemplative practices, esoteric
Speaker 1: teachings and mystery school teachings back in the nineties. She
Speaker 1: is dedicated to the studies of transfer forming consciousness through breath, praana, meditation, mindfulness,
Speaker 1: and somatic healing to integrate trauma and trauma informed practices.
Speaker 2: She's a certified yoga therapist, a yoga teacher, and is
Speaker 2: also a Restorative Breathwork advanced facilitator and teacher.
Speaker 1: If that wasn't enough, she has degrees in philosophy, religion,
Speaker 1: and communications, as well as over thirty years of teaching, classes, workshops,
Speaker 1: and training. She is absolutely a fountain of information and
Speaker 1: we are blessed to have her here with us today.
Speaker 1: Gabrielle George Janks, thanks so much for coming on the show.
Speaker 3: I'm so happy to be here, and I just want
Speaker 3: to say I'm happy to be here with the two
Speaker 3: of you because for your audience, we are friends. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and so I'm ready to have an interesting conversation about
Speaker 3: this topic.
Speaker 1: Great. So, well, this will be our easiest interview yet
Speaker 1: because we've known each other for such a long time
Speaker 1: that this is going to be wonderful. It's a conversation
Speaker 1: we've had it starts and stops every once in a while,
Speaker 1: but now we'll get a chance to really dive into
Speaker 1: the topic, and we really are here to talk to
Speaker 1: you about human design.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, for the uninitiated, what is human disease in five
Speaker 1: words or less.
Speaker 3: So what's helpful for me is to give a little
Speaker 3: bit of context and story of how I came to
Speaker 3: understand or first interact with and experience these teachings, because
Speaker 3: I mean, basically, it's a transmission of teachings and a synthesis.
Speaker 3: So the synthesis is the chakra system, the kabbala, the
Speaker 3: eaching quantum physics, and how that came to be synthesized
Speaker 3: was a full experience for this individual all on its
Speaker 3: own and has a lot of detailed to it, and
Speaker 3: there's videos on that. The transmission was from a person
Speaker 3: and the synthesis occurred where all of these teachings sort
Speaker 3: of came together and hit. So what's helpful for me
Speaker 3: is go back in time of when I first started
Speaker 3: interacting with human design. But did you have a question? Now,
Speaker 3: I was just going to say it was so one
Speaker 3: person came up with this, Yeah, right, right, So transmissions
Speaker 3: are when I first interacted with this material, I was
Speaker 3: already steeped in people who were bringing their own transmissions
Speaker 3: and their own teaching. So this was in the nineties
Speaker 3: and I was even here at the Edgar case studying
Speaker 3: and had exposure to those wisdom teachings, which was specifically
Speaker 3: in the chakra system and the yoga lineage at that time.
Speaker 3: Because my teacher is a breath teacher, meditation teacher, and
Speaker 3: also is very heavily imbued with the importance of living
Speaker 3: life from an intention, from an ideal and letting that
Speaker 3: intention and ideal guide you. So at that time, anything
Speaker 3: that was coming I trusted. It wasn't that a big
Speaker 3: of a leap for me to trust that this If
Speaker 3: you look at something like the Kabbala, the eaching, they're
Speaker 3: not new, the very estheteric teachings of the chakra system.
Speaker 3: And of course what's happening in the quantum field and
Speaker 3: the movement of neuroscience and the contemplative contemplative sciences merging
Speaker 3: with neuroscience. So there was so much happening at that
Speaker 3: time that was evolving, all of those wisdom teachings as
Speaker 3: as a as a movement, and then we're seeing that
Speaker 3: result now and in you know, how we're seeing neuroscience
Speaker 3: is much more familiar to just the commonplace. So when
Speaker 3: I in the nineties, when I had first heard about
Speaker 3: it Ra, the person who received this information which it
Speaker 3: w was a transmission that wasn't easy for him. So
Speaker 3: revelations and transmissions of source information from some higher part
Speaker 3: of our our connection to the universe or all that is,
Speaker 3: you know, the information coming to him and his experience,
Speaker 3: he didn't talk about for for a long time. And
Speaker 3: now they have I think it's a sixty four keys
Speaker 3: dot com which is a platform you could easily go
Speaker 3: to and hear his story, but he was reluctant on
Speaker 3: sharing that. But he consider himself at the time his
Speaker 3: name was Robert and this happened in Abiza, and he
Speaker 3: was a bit of a person who lived on the
Speaker 3: edge of life anyway. You know, he was considered a
Speaker 3: little bit of a mad guy.
Speaker 1: Lived in the visa.
Speaker 3: And it's a really right and it's an interesting story
Speaker 3: in and of itself. It's just a really curious experience
Speaker 3: to hear. He was considered himself the first student, right So,
Speaker 3: but anyway, when I had interacted with it, you know,
Speaker 3: I was already involved in the study of the aura,
Speaker 3: and the aura is very complex, that our fields are complex,
Speaker 3: so internal and external energy flows and how that supports
Speaker 3: balance of our mind, our our health, our physical body
Speaker 3: or emotional body, and connecting to these higher frequencies is
Speaker 3: that lead and direct our life through that intention and
Speaker 3: ideal that I mentioned earlier, And so a lot of
Speaker 3: those trans personal processes are about deconditioning what isn't real
Speaker 3: for us, right. So I was in my own process,
Speaker 3: so I heard about it and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: right now, I'm here, but I'm really like what I see.
Speaker 3: And it was very mechanical at the time. And so
Speaker 3: fast forward to about six years ago, and they're so
Speaker 3: when that imprint happened to him. The understanding about transmissions
Speaker 3: also or downloads when they're of the nature of wisdom
Speaker 3: teachings such as these, because the Kabbalah those are are timeless, right,
Speaker 3: But they also when the imprint happened for him, it
Speaker 3: affected all of us. So it's like when major comments
Speaker 3: come through or something, we're all affected by our cosmos.
Speaker 3: It's not like he just happened to be the one
Speaker 3: that was the recipient of the synthesis of these wisdom
Speaker 3: teaching teachings birthed a new science of astrology. So I
Speaker 3: don't think I mentioned astrology. So it's astrology, Kabbalah, the
Speaker 3: eaching to chakras, and quantum physics, right. So over a
Speaker 3: long period of time, the synthesis of those teachings birthed
Speaker 3: a lot of really powerful teachers who were with him.
Speaker 3: And of course that mutates, that doesn't mutate away from
Speaker 3: the original teachings of the eaching or the original teachings
Speaker 3: of the chakra system. And you don't have to be
Speaker 3: a master of those systems to come to human Design
Speaker 3: as a teaching to bring forth an understanding of yourself
Speaker 3: and how it's y'all put that, what it does for you.
Speaker 3: But what drew me toward it because of that time
Speaker 3: I was studying the aura is that part of the
Speaker 3: synthesis is that the you know, I teach meditation, I
Speaker 3: teach mindfulness. I work with many many people over the
Speaker 3: years of how to meditate, and I was seeing certain
Speaker 3: things that weren't like why is this person more emotional?
Speaker 3: Why is this person person having these experiences? Like there's
Speaker 3: a way to work with all of it in this
Speaker 3: in mindfulness and meditation. But when I came back to
Speaker 3: human Design six years ago, something really clicked for me,
Speaker 3: and it was it was how the system started to
Speaker 3: talk about each human being has a unique type and
Speaker 3: what comes with that type and there's five of them,
Speaker 3: and I'll briefly go into them. Is their oric field? Now,
Speaker 3: the aura is complex, so I'm not human. Design doesn't simplify,
Speaker 3: like if my type functions in a certain way, I
Speaker 3: can learn about how I work efficiently energetically, how I
Speaker 3: work mentally, how I work physically based on this body graph,
Speaker 3: which i'll go into. But what drew me to it
Speaker 3: was each type has a very specific, unique oric field
Speaker 3: to it, and that doesn't take away from how complex
Speaker 3: our auras are and how extraordinary they are as where
Speaker 3: our auras are interacting. Right now we're connecting. The three
Speaker 3: of us have very different ORC types and when I
Speaker 3: saw that, and those ORC types are based on these
Speaker 3: types that were channeled through this person. Right. So the
Speaker 3: the way the graph works is you have it's interesting
Speaker 3: because you have you guys have questions before I keep
Speaker 3: going and I'll explain the aura more and how it works.
Speaker 2: And yes, so it's you're saying it's a graph.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's a body graph.
Speaker 2: It's a body graph and how what how is that
Speaker 2: graph created? I think it's like dates and time, right.
Speaker 3: So that's where the synthesis of the information comes in
Speaker 3: and how it comes in is based on your birth moment,
Speaker 3: so that's astrology. And also astrology carries archetypes. And we
Speaker 3: live in the cosmos, we are influenced by our planetary configurations.
Speaker 3: So each the moment of birth right is an imprint
Speaker 3: of where the configuration of the cosmos is.
Speaker 2: Right, So if you don't know your birth moment, like
Speaker 2: I didn't know, and it's not even on my birth
Speaker 2: certificate back then, I guess they didn't put it on there.
Speaker 3: But I don't know the moment of my birth right.
Speaker 2: So does that mean I can't get an accurate chart?
Speaker 3: Well, they have chart rectification software, so people who don't know,
Speaker 3: there's I think it costs like two hundred dollars. You
Speaker 3: can you have fill out paperwork where now it's online,
Speaker 3: so you fill it out online and the you know
Speaker 3: professionals that can really pattern and look at certain things
Speaker 3: like you know what city you were born in, you
Speaker 3: know general idea of time, you know that you can
Speaker 3: somehow get through that information. They can give you a
Speaker 3: pretty good time. And then in that case when you
Speaker 3: plug in that information and it the now it's a
Speaker 3: it's a very compla software system that they've created over
Speaker 3: the last since nineteen eighty seven is when this occurred.
Speaker 3: For raw in his name was Robert at the time.
Speaker 3: Now you go, he's passed, but raw is his name.
Speaker 3: Of course, we've moved through evolutionary stages of being able
Speaker 3: to compute that chart like that. So software has been
Speaker 3: created and that's constantly being updated. But so when you
Speaker 3: put in your information, the chart produces itself and the
Speaker 3: graph if you look at it, it's not linear, but
Speaker 3: it looks linear. It's more hologenetic because we're human beings.
Speaker 3: It's not like a piece of right, So the understanding
Speaker 3: the chart comes over time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's incredibly complex.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very complex. So there's an entry way into
Speaker 3: the complexity, and some people can you don't have to
Speaker 3: go deep. Just some of my students knowing what their
Speaker 3: type is and what their strategy is, and how their
Speaker 3: aura functions, how their brain functions as a learning that's enough, right,
Speaker 3: and I have some stories a couple examples of that.
Speaker 3: But the body graphic self produces this constellation of information,
Speaker 3: and it's the imprint of the moment you're born. So
Speaker 3: in the moment you come out of the womb, and
Speaker 3: that could be cesarean, It does not matter. It's that
Speaker 3: moment you're out and there's an Oh, I'm out and
Speaker 3: I'm in this world now and I'm imprinted by my environment.
Speaker 3: It's also what's unique about that synthesis of information is
Speaker 3: that it also retro eighty eight days prior to birth,
Speaker 3: so that in that imprint eighty eight days prior, there's
Speaker 3: information that is sort of imprinted into the nervous system
Speaker 3: into how this body should function in this lifetime. It
Speaker 3: has epigenetic information. So you know, we look at DNA,
Speaker 3: so we look at depending on what the two sides
Speaker 3: of the chart, that moment of birth, that eighty eight
Speaker 3: days prior is imprinted with all the astrological symbols and
Speaker 3: they all are archetypes of you know, the father, the mother.
Speaker 3: Expansion depth depends on what planet and where all of
Speaker 3: that ends up in this graph, right so right, So yeah,
Speaker 3: people look at it and that's why they come to
Speaker 3: us to learn and so moment that there's an imprint.
Speaker 3: What's unique about the human design system as a newer
Speaker 3: science of astrology is that this idea of there's types
Speaker 3: and there's five of them, and each type based on
Speaker 3: that type defines their aura and how their aura functions
Speaker 3: in space and time, and that aura really gives them
Speaker 3: a sense when you understand it, and how it functions
Speaker 3: like mine functions very differently from yours and years and
Speaker 3: then you begin to understand, Ah, that's a part of
Speaker 3: my role. But this is how my energy works in
Speaker 3: this lifetime. So I don't need to be like a generator.
Speaker 3: Sorry about that. Where generators typically were conditioned to work
Speaker 3: all the same and even our you know, we way
Speaker 3: we educate is every person who's supposed to learn the
Speaker 3: same way, and we all know that doesn't work and
Speaker 3: we end up finding our way through that better or worse, right,
Speaker 3: But that type a specific aura, and based on that,
Speaker 3: it has a way of making decisions that those decisions
Speaker 3: are what connects us to our authority of inner truth.
Speaker 3: And that authority gives us does not come from our mind.
Speaker 3: From the perspective of human design, it is not a
Speaker 3: mental process. It's a decision making process that comes from
Speaker 3: our body. And that's very new. And if you know,
Speaker 3: I'm an embodiment practitioner, I teach how to trust the body,
Speaker 3: how to be in the body, how to understand the
Speaker 3: energetics of your body. You could see why I was
Speaker 3: super interested in well this type. So within the graph right,
Speaker 3: there's activations of certain things that happen at birth and
Speaker 3: eighty eight days retro. Right, those activations are specific and
Speaker 3: unique to you, specific and unique to you, specific and
Speaker 3: unique to me, even though I can be a similar
Speaker 3: type to someone else. How those activations you know, what
Speaker 3: what planet, what gate? What hexagram with right, which is
Speaker 3: a those are all very much about how to live life.
Speaker 3: And so when they're activated, that means it's that's more
Speaker 3: of who I am now, whether it's more of who
Speaker 3: I am because I'm here to grow that in this
Speaker 3: lifetime based on its position within that body graph, or
Speaker 3: it's what I came in with retro on that design side.
Speaker 3: That's like why am I so good at that? It's
Speaker 3: a knowledge I already have, whether it's my family's knowledge,
Speaker 3: but it's deep within my body. And so the graph
Speaker 3: itself can show you how the activations of how you
Speaker 3: intuit things, how you how how mmm, how your energy flows.
Speaker 3: So it's like a circuit board, and.
Speaker 2: So how can people use this to help their lives?
Speaker 3: In general? What I've seen is that the chart, the
Speaker 3: information and what gets activated provides a person the ability
Speaker 3: to love themselves and live authentically based on the information
Speaker 3: that you're reading or you're understanding about yourself. So there's
Speaker 3: self love. It's not religious in the way of it's
Speaker 3: not meant to be. Follow this and this is the
Speaker 3: only way it's going to be. It's meant to be. Oh,
Speaker 3: I'm going to understand my strategy, which in my case
Speaker 3: is to wait for the invitation. So the five types,
Speaker 3: the manifesture, which is about nine percent of the pop ulation,
Speaker 3: the generator, which is about thirty seven percent I think
Speaker 3: of the population. Then there's a subtype which is called
Speaker 3: a manifesting, a manifesting generator, which the manifesting generator, the
Speaker 3: generator or is the same the manifestors. Aura tends to
Speaker 3: push things out of the way initiate these two like
Speaker 3: you are your generator. It's an enveloping or. It draws
Speaker 3: people in situations to you. So in many ways, a generator,
Speaker 3: the only person really as a type is a manifestor
Speaker 3: is meant to initiate, right because they think of Moses
Speaker 3: parting the sea. The aura of a manifestor moves things
Speaker 3: out and they have a strategy to work with that energy.
Speaker 3: Typically manifestors have a lot of problems because of that
Speaker 3: aura like it's a repelling aura wo and so it
Speaker 3: can be interpreted as as why is everyone always irritated
Speaker 3: with me? Or why so someone understanding how they're are
Speaker 3: functions helps them accept themselves more and actually learn how
Speaker 3: to flow through life situation through How is a manifesture's
Speaker 3: strategy best utilize, which is to inform people of what's
Speaker 3: going on and where generators is really waiting and trusting
Speaker 3: that life is going to bring things to you, and
Speaker 3: it's whether or not I want to say yes or
Speaker 3: no to what is being drawn to me. Because it's
Speaker 3: a enveloping, it's round, it's big and full and it
Speaker 3: you know, it's like a warm hug or something like.
Speaker 3: It's I can know that now because I've been around
Speaker 3: them enough that I've tested it and felt it. You
Speaker 3: have a question and.
Speaker 1: Then all so it's a great way of building a
Speaker 1: strategy for how you go about life. That's really what
Speaker 1: the chart sounds like. It's what it's for. It's understanding
Speaker 1: your type helps you to establish your strategy for moving forward.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I know some some folks that know we'll talk about
Speaker 1: it are very much don't volunteer things but rather wait
Speaker 1: for wait to be asked to do things and things
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so its generators. It's it's it's such a deep
Speaker 3: trust that life is going to bring me to you.
Speaker 3: Because if the ore is pulling life in, it's it's centripa,
Speaker 3: it's pulling things where instead of trying to initiate and
Speaker 3: force and manifest, generators really don't need to do that.
Speaker 3: It's a process of how do I learn how to
Speaker 3: trust my own internal The strategy would be to wait
Speaker 3: to respond, which has its own you know, complexity to
Speaker 3: it because there's different a tho on that and I'll
Speaker 3: put that there for a moment. Wherein as a projector's aura,
Speaker 3: it's completely it's a cone shape and it's designed to
Speaker 3: Projectors are twenty percent of the population. Reflectors are one.
Speaker 3: You're a reflector, and so the projector's aura is really
Speaker 3: meant to guide, and so its function is to penetrate
Speaker 3: and lock into somebody and initiate some kind of guidance.
Speaker 3: So a lot of people will say it's like being
Speaker 3: poked because it's a cone shape, and not everybody likes that.
Speaker 3: So waiting for knowing that I know I'm a guide.
Speaker 3: I know I will wait if someone wants to hear
Speaker 3: what I have to say, or they come in by
Speaker 3: coming to me as a student tour, as hiring them
Speaker 3: as a coach, or whatever I'm doing with them. That's
Speaker 3: an agreement of I get to guide you right and
Speaker 3: if often. And now that was a game changer for me,
Speaker 3: learning about my own style of how my aura functions
Speaker 3: and my strategy to wait. It took when I really
Speaker 3: committed to it, I changed everything, and my business changed.
Speaker 3: Everything changed, and it took two and a half to
Speaker 3: three years for me to say, Okay, I'm going to
Speaker 3: test this. So it's not meant. It's not an intellectual
Speaker 3: process like our auras are not intellectual. It's an actual
Speaker 3: experience of oh, I get to feel how my body functions.
Speaker 3: And so that authority that you're talking about doesn't come
Speaker 3: from here, So most people have to there's processes that
Speaker 3: you take bits and pieces of this information in and
Speaker 3: you would apply it and see how it feels for
Speaker 3: you and how it works, and over time you begin
Speaker 3: to see this is far more in my energy flow
Speaker 3: and far more energy efficient for my actual physical body.
Speaker 3: So you have type, strategy and authority. Like my authority
Speaker 3: is emotional. There's sacral authority, which is really about the
Speaker 3: body making sound. My daughter is sacral, so now I
Speaker 3: know she makes this uh huh or uh uh like
Speaker 3: her sound is a part of her decision making. Whereas
Speaker 3: a spleenic authority is in the moment. It's in the
Speaker 3: now because it's the chakra system functions as an awareness
Speaker 3: center and says this is where you need to go
Speaker 3: and it happens momentarily where I have a type of
Speaker 3: authority that I have to wait because it's emotional, I
Speaker 3: have a wave.
Speaker 1: And does the chart tell you which one which authorities?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? It gives you very very clear. This is what
Speaker 3: you are. This is your strategy, this is your authority,
Speaker 3: this is your profile.
Speaker 1: So I'm assuming I'm a spleenic.
Speaker 3: No, I don't. I don't remember what you are. I'd
Speaker 3: have to look you up again.
Speaker 1: Look, because I do act on the moment, I make decisions.
Speaker 3: Shoot, I should I wish I look that on my
Speaker 3: phone because I have your chart on my phone.
Speaker 2: Oh, there's a manifestor, a generator, a projector, and a reflector.
Speaker 3: That's a reflector, right, But the generator has the subtype
Speaker 3: of the manifesting generator, So the manifesting generator. I have
Speaker 3: a lot of manifesting generator clients are a combination chart activation,
Speaker 3: that is, a manifestor and a generator, but their aura
Speaker 3: is still an enveloping or they do not have a
Speaker 3: manifesting manifestor's aura. The aura of a manifestor is very
Speaker 3: distinctly different. It's meant to initiate. So you have these
Speaker 3: themes though that if you're not in your flow of
Speaker 3: decision making. So you asked about how this supports and
Speaker 3: how this is helpful. There is a not self sort
Speaker 3: of theme that's easy to follow that not self would
Speaker 3: be like in your case. In your case, so your
Speaker 3: case would be frustration if you now the thing about
Speaker 3: frustration is this is ananda. Frustration is normal to a
Speaker 3: generator because it helps them grow into their next level.
Speaker 3: But they interpret fust sorry, they interpret frustration as you know,
Speaker 3: a problem or something's wrong with me. So I even
Speaker 3: had my daughter's down the other night, she's trying to
Speaker 3: learn her lines to play. I said, read your strengths,
Speaker 3: read your weaknesses as a generator, and she was like, oh,
Speaker 3: And it took the pressure off of her. I said,
Speaker 3: the frustration your experiences is your power, first of all,
Speaker 3: and she didn't know what to do. I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: she's a child still learning, but that power is a
Speaker 3: force that's trying to evolve your way of learning and growing.
Speaker 3: So that frustration actually is a healthy thing when you
Speaker 3: understand how to leverage it right. And where is that
Speaker 3: frustration coming from? Is it coming from my head or
Speaker 3: is it actually my body saying I want to grow
Speaker 3: this this thing that I'm working with in my life
Speaker 3: that I said yes to, right, and manifestors, theirs is anger.
Speaker 3: They go right to anger, right, where as a manifesting
Speaker 3: generator has anger and frustration as a as a sign
Speaker 3: that wait a minute, I'm not maybe making decisions the
Speaker 3: way that's best for my chart, my energy flow, what's
Speaker 3: right for me for me, it's for projectors, which.
Speaker 1: Are really.
Speaker 3: They're only the newer of the type. And I won't
Speaker 3: go into a lot of the history of the change,
Speaker 3: but I had mentioned earlier how there was a time
Speaker 3: when this information came in, and it came in because
Speaker 3: we are changing, Our species is changing, we're evolving, and
Speaker 3: we are from that perspective, we're becoming. We're moving out
Speaker 3: of a victimization time, out of a time of emotional turbulence,
Speaker 3: of codependence. This is a trajectory over the next four
Speaker 3: hundred years of where we're going as a species. So
Speaker 3: the information came as a support to evolve us to
Speaker 3: this is what will help you through these times. Trust
Speaker 3: your authority, trust your inner self. This information can only
Speaker 3: be positive in that regard, right, it can only be like, well,
Speaker 3: I can utilize this to help me trust more of
Speaker 3: my inner intuition and how my body likes to function
Speaker 3: in everyday life. Because the sub of the chart is
Speaker 3: your strategy, your type, your authority. But what lives underneath it,
Speaker 3: because it's hologenetic I said, is these these sort of
Speaker 3: imagine like a prism, like a or an iceberg. Right,
Speaker 3: we're at the top where the conversation we're having is
Speaker 3: here right in this room, in space and time. But
Speaker 3: underneath it are colors and tones that help us reflect
Speaker 3: out into the world our unique perception of how we
Speaker 3: see the world. So reflectors. Of course, you know that
Speaker 3: you have to wait third or lunar they have to
Speaker 3: wait thirty. But what's so cool about that is that
Speaker 3: you because we can't go into all the open charts
Speaker 3: because I mean the open centers, the chalkras that are open.
Speaker 3: Well could do I have time to say a few
Speaker 3: things about that. A few minutes, one minute, okay, So
Speaker 3: if you have an activation in that graph that you
Speaker 3: were referring to, some of those centers are what's called
Speaker 3: open or undefined, and some of them are defined because
Speaker 3: they have it's a binary like say your spleen center
Speaker 3: connects to your root and it's there both ends are connected,
Speaker 3: so they're defined. They're colored in right. The open centers
Speaker 3: in the chart, which for a reflector, they're all open,
Speaker 3: but you have activations through it. So when you're open,
Speaker 3: I will say really quickly about that, because open centers
Speaker 3: will typically amplify the energy of that center in the environment.
Speaker 3: So I mentioned earlier how this helps my clients or
Speaker 3: how I helped with meditators. If they have an open
Speaker 3: head or an open asna, their meditation process is going
Speaker 3: to look very different. If you have an open emotional
Speaker 3: center like my daughter does, and I'm defined in my
Speaker 3: emotional center, she's going to amplify that energy and she
Speaker 3: would could possibly be seen as the one who's overemotional,
Speaker 3: when in truth, that center is giving her information that
Speaker 3: there's a lot going on in my environment that's very
Speaker 3: emotional and it's not mine, right, So those open centers
Speaker 3: become deeply filled with wisdom about our environment and what's
Speaker 3: going on, and we learn about that. In your case,
Speaker 3: they're all open, So throughout that entire lunar cycle, you
Speaker 3: are experiencing all of the activations that we go through
Speaker 3: every thirty days anyway through because the cosmos is we're moving.
Speaker 3: So you might feel yourself as a manifestor one day,
Speaker 3: you might feel yourself next week as the generator energy
Speaker 3: or the projector energy. Reflectors become a really unique mirror
Speaker 3: to the health of any environment you're in, whether it's
Speaker 3: your work environment, your family, and depending on where the
Speaker 3: activation is or like you and I get together, you
Speaker 3: have one gait activated, I of the other end. We
Speaker 3: plug in there and we're like, wow, we're really connected
Speaker 3: based on those centers connecting, but in our auras connecting,
Speaker 3: and so it's helped me understand friends, understand family members,
Speaker 3: understand its mechanics. It's not personal, you know, manifestors, it's
Speaker 3: just not personal. It's just the way they're designed, but
Speaker 3: the lunar, it's unique, It goes through many tastes and
Speaker 3: it's very fun to be around electors.
Speaker 1: And all this would be is so much easier visualizing
Speaker 1: when you have your chart in front of you.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And that's the hard part of this is that
Speaker 3: it really and it's meant to be a lived experience.
Speaker 3: It's meant to be tested, it's meant not to be like,
Speaker 3: don't believe me, don't believe it, like it's meant to
Speaker 3: be like if this is truth for you, great and
Speaker 3: if it's not great, just like anyone else any other right,
Speaker 3: exactly so, But it has brought incredible clarity for my
Speaker 3: clients in terms of, like if we're working a lot
Speaker 3: of emotional energy for them and they constantly are having
Speaker 3: a look at their chart, and I can say, look,
Speaker 3: let's put this in a perspective that some of what
Speaker 3: you're going through isn't yours. So your artistry now is
Speaker 3: when you're in a situation that you're feeling super anxious
Speaker 3: or activated, that you consider that it's not I mean,
Speaker 3: some part of it is going to be a part
Speaker 3: of them, right, but we have to discern that over time,
Speaker 3: and then you leave the situation, get yourself grounded, and
Speaker 3: then come back. But typically in that scenario, a lot
Speaker 3: of people feel like, why am I always the one
Speaker 3: who feels so emotional or being called I'm emotional? So
Speaker 3: Raw really put forth that this is for the children.
Speaker 3: For the children, Wow, Okay, for the children.
Speaker 1: Well that's just disappointing because I really wanted to know.
Speaker 3: But the parents have to parent, all right, So I do.
Speaker 3: I'm finishing some training around working with families and working
Speaker 3: with because the kids just get it. They're they're not
Speaker 3: as conditioned as adults are. They don't have to go
Speaker 3: through a lot of you know, and if you have
Speaker 3: a natural skepticism to you in your chart, then your
Speaker 3: approach to this material is going to be not because
Speaker 3: being a scout dick is bad, but because you're going
Speaker 3: to want to challenge that. Like Raw was a manifestor
Speaker 3: who was a skeptic. So he was he was a
Speaker 3: reluctant mystic. He was not particularly prepared for what he
Speaker 3: was getting ready to go through. Yeah, but anyway, you
Speaker 3: can see how it's a little complex to talk about.
Speaker 1: Giving us a ton of information and yet just barely
Speaker 1: stressed stretch. So if someone wanted to learn more about
Speaker 1: human design. What's the best way for someone to do that?
Speaker 3: Well, I mentioned earlier how many teachers are out there,
Speaker 3: so I will say that it's helpful to go to
Speaker 3: the Jovian Archive, which is the original sort of content material,
Speaker 3: and then find people who are guides like myself, who
Speaker 3: have and working with the material for a period of time.
Speaker 3: So there's lots of them out there. There's YouTube videos.
Speaker 3: Now there's Karen Curry Parker who was a student of
Speaker 3: RAS and actually worked with the institute. Her work is excellent.
Speaker 3: Richard Rudd's work, you know, they're they've had their own transmissions.
Speaker 3: They were both students of RAW.
Speaker 1: And now we're getting into gene keys.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, which is a whole other thing. But he
Speaker 3: was a student. I mean, he's a big student of
Speaker 3: the e ching and that material came from human Design.
Speaker 2: Well, if someone specifically wanted to contact you your incredible
Speaker 2: how would they do that.
Speaker 3: Through my website which is Gabrielle Gerard.
Speaker 1: Wonderful always used to hang with you and.
Speaker 3: We'll have the glass of wine and I'll give you more.
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