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<v Speaker 1>My name is Will and I'm Garen, and unlike moulderin Scully.

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<v Speaker 2>Both want to believe.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've embarked in a journey of discovery.

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<v Speaker 3>We've talked to.

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<v Speaker 2>People deeply entrenched in the spiritual and metaphysical world.

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<v Speaker 1>We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even

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<v Speaker 1>joined a coven of witches.

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<v Speaker 2>And wait, you joined a coven yep.

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<v Speaker 1>All in the interest of finding something, anything, that will

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<v Speaker 1>prove that there's something beyond this physical.

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<v Speaker 2>Three dimensional world we all live in.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Skeptic Metaphysicians. This episode of The Skeptic

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<v Speaker 1>Metaphysicians was recorded live at the Edgar Casey AAR.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to New Awakenings with Edgar Casey's Ari. We're together

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<v Speaker 2>through some incredible conversations. We go on beautiful journeys of

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<v Speaker 2>discovery that might shape the way you think about things

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<v Speaker 2>and could even change your lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Our guest today began her exploration of contemplative practices, esoteric

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<v Speaker 1>teachings and mystery school teachings back in the nineties. She

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<v Speaker 1>is dedicated to the studies of transfer forming consciousness through breath, praana, meditation, mindfulness,

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<v Speaker 1>and somatic healing to integrate trauma and trauma informed practices.

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<v Speaker 2>She's a certified yoga therapist, a yoga teacher, and is

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<v Speaker 2>also a Restorative Breathwork advanced facilitator and teacher.

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<v Speaker 1>If that wasn't enough, she has degrees in philosophy, religion,

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<v Speaker 1>and communications, as well as over thirty years of teaching, classes, workshops,

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<v Speaker 1>and training. She is absolutely a fountain of information and

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<v Speaker 1>we are blessed to have her here with us today.

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<v Speaker 1>Gabrielle George Janks, thanks so much for coming on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so happy to be here, and I just want

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<v Speaker 3>to say I'm happy to be here with the two

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<v Speaker 3>of you because for your audience, we are friends. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I'm ready to have an interesting conversation about

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<v Speaker 3>this topic.

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<v Speaker 1>Great. So, well, this will be our easiest interview yet

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<v Speaker 1>because we've known each other for such a long time

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<v Speaker 1>that this is going to be wonderful. It's a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>we've had it starts and stops every once in a while,

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<v Speaker 1>but now we'll get a chance to really dive into

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<v Speaker 1>the topic, and we really are here to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you about human design.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So, for the uninitiated, what is human disease in five

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<v Speaker 1>words or less.

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<v Speaker 3>So what's helpful for me is to give a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of context and story of how I came to

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<v Speaker 3>understand or first interact with and experience these teachings, because

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, basically, it's a transmission of teachings and a synthesis.

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<v Speaker 3>So the synthesis is the chakra system, the kabbala, the

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<v Speaker 3>eaching quantum physics, and how that came to be synthesized

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<v Speaker 3>was a full experience for this individual all on its

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<v Speaker 3>own and has a lot of detailed to it, and

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<v Speaker 3>there's videos on that. The transmission was from a person

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<v Speaker 3>and the synthesis occurred where all of these teachings sort

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<v Speaker 3>of came together and hit. So what's helpful for me

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<v Speaker 3>is go back in time of when I first started

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<v Speaker 3>interacting with human design. But did you have a question? Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I was just going to say it was so one

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<v Speaker 3>person came up with this, Yeah, right, right, So transmissions

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<v Speaker 3>are when I first interacted with this material, I was

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<v Speaker 3>already steeped in people who were bringing their own transmissions

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<v Speaker 3>and their own teaching. So this was in the nineties

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<v Speaker 3>and I was even here at the Edgar case studying

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<v Speaker 3>and had exposure to those wisdom teachings, which was specifically

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<v Speaker 3>in the chakra system and the yoga lineage at that time.

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<v Speaker 3>Because my teacher is a breath teacher, meditation teacher, and

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<v Speaker 3>also is very heavily imbued with the importance of living

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<v Speaker 3>life from an intention, from an ideal and letting that

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<v Speaker 3>intention and ideal guide you. So at that time, anything

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<v Speaker 3>that was coming I trusted. It wasn't that a big

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<v Speaker 3>of a leap for me to trust that this If

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<v Speaker 3>you look at something like the Kabbala, the eaching, they're

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<v Speaker 3>not new, the very estheteric teachings of the chakra system.

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<v Speaker 3>And of course what's happening in the quantum field and

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<v Speaker 3>the movement of neuroscience and the contemplative contemplative sciences merging

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<v Speaker 3>with neuroscience. So there was so much happening at that

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<v Speaker 3>time that was evolving, all of those wisdom teachings as

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<v Speaker 3>as a as a movement, and then we're seeing that

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<v Speaker 3>result now and in you know, how we're seeing neuroscience

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<v Speaker 3>is much more familiar to just the commonplace. So when

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<v Speaker 3>I in the nineties, when I had first heard about

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<v Speaker 3>it Ra, the person who received this information which it

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<v Speaker 3>w was a transmission that wasn't easy for him. So

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<v Speaker 3>revelations and transmissions of source information from some higher part

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<v Speaker 3>of our our connection to the universe or all that is,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the information coming to him and his experience,

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<v Speaker 3>he didn't talk about for for a long time. And

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<v Speaker 3>now they have I think it's a sixty four keys

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<v Speaker 3>dot com which is a platform you could easily go

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<v Speaker 3>to and hear his story, but he was reluctant on

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<v Speaker 3>sharing that. But he consider himself at the time his

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<v Speaker 3>name was Robert and this happened in Abiza, and he

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<v Speaker 3>was a bit of a person who lived on the

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<v Speaker 3>edge of life anyway. You know, he was considered a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of a mad guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Lived in the visa.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's a really right and it's an interesting story

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<v Speaker 3>in and of itself. It's just a really curious experience

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<v Speaker 3>to hear. He was considered himself the first student, right So,

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<v Speaker 3>but anyway, when I had interacted with it, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I was already involved in the study of the aura,

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<v Speaker 3>and the aura is very complex, that our fields are complex,

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<v Speaker 3>so internal and external energy flows and how that supports

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<v Speaker 3>balance of our mind, our our health, our physical body

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<v Speaker 3>or emotional body, and connecting to these higher frequencies is

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<v Speaker 3>that lead and direct our life through that intention and

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<v Speaker 3>ideal that I mentioned earlier, And so a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>those trans personal processes are about deconditioning what isn't real

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<v Speaker 3>for us, right. So I was in my own process,

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<v Speaker 3>so I heard about it and I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>right now, I'm here, but I'm really like what I see.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was very mechanical at the time. And so

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<v Speaker 3>fast forward to about six years ago, and they're so

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<v Speaker 3>when that imprint happened to him. The understanding about transmissions

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<v Speaker 3>also or downloads when they're of the nature of wisdom

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<v Speaker 3>teachings such as these, because the Kabbalah those are are timeless, right,

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<v Speaker 3>But they also when the imprint happened for him, it

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<v Speaker 3>affected all of us. So it's like when major comments

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<v Speaker 3>come through or something, we're all affected by our cosmos.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not like he just happened to be the one

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<v Speaker 3>that was the recipient of the synthesis of these wisdom

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<v Speaker 3>teaching teachings birthed a new science of astrology. So I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think I mentioned astrology. So it's astrology, Kabbalah, the

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<v Speaker 3>eaching to chakras, and quantum physics, right. So over a

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<v Speaker 3>long period of time, the synthesis of those teachings birthed

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of really powerful teachers who were with him.

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<v Speaker 3>And of course that mutates, that doesn't mutate away from

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<v Speaker 3>the original teachings of the eaching or the original teachings

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<v Speaker 3>of the chakra system. And you don't have to be

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<v Speaker 3>a master of those systems to come to human Design

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<v Speaker 3>as a teaching to bring forth an understanding of yourself

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<v Speaker 3>and how it's y'all put that, what it does for you.

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<v Speaker 3>But what drew me toward it because of that time

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<v Speaker 3>I was studying the aura is that part of the

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<v Speaker 3>synthesis is that the you know, I teach meditation, I

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<v Speaker 3>teach mindfulness. I work with many many people over the

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<v Speaker 3>years of how to meditate, and I was seeing certain

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<v Speaker 3>things that weren't like why is this person more emotional?

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<v Speaker 3>Why is this person person having these experiences? Like there's

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<v Speaker 3>a way to work with all of it in this

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<v Speaker 3>in mindfulness and meditation. But when I came back to

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<v Speaker 3>human Design six years ago, something really clicked for me,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was it was how the system started to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about each human being has a unique type and

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<v Speaker 3>what comes with that type and there's five of them,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'll briefly go into them. Is their oric field? Now,

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<v Speaker 3>the aura is complex, so I'm not human. Design doesn't simplify,

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<v Speaker 3>like if my type functions in a certain way, I

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<v Speaker 3>can learn about how I work efficiently energetically, how I

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<v Speaker 3>work mentally, how I work physically based on this body graph,

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<v Speaker 3>which i'll go into. But what drew me to it

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<v Speaker 3>was each type has a very specific, unique oric field

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<v Speaker 3>to it, and that doesn't take away from how complex

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<v Speaker 3>our auras are and how extraordinary they are as where

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<v Speaker 3>our auras are interacting. Right now we're connecting. The three

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<v Speaker 3>of us have very different ORC types and when I

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<v Speaker 3>saw that, and those ORC types are based on these

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<v Speaker 3>types that were channeled through this person. Right. So the

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<v Speaker 3>the way the graph works is you have it's interesting

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<v Speaker 3>because you have you guys have questions before I keep

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<v Speaker 3>going and I'll explain the aura more and how it works.

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<v Speaker 2>And yes, so it's you're saying it's a graph.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's a body graph.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a body graph and how what how is that

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<v Speaker 2>graph created? I think it's like dates and time, right.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's where the synthesis of the information comes in

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<v Speaker 3>and how it comes in is based on your birth moment,

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<v Speaker 3>so that's astrology. And also astrology carries archetypes. And we

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<v Speaker 3>live in the cosmos, we are influenced by our planetary configurations.

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<v Speaker 3>So each the moment of birth right is an imprint

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<v Speaker 3>of where the configuration of the cosmos is.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So if you don't know your birth moment, like

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know, and it's not even on my birth

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<v Speaker 2>certificate back then, I guess they didn't put it on there.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't know the moment of my birth right.

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<v Speaker 2>So does that mean I can't get an accurate chart?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they have chart rectification software, so people who don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's I think it costs like two hundred dollars. You

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<v Speaker 3>can you have fill out paperwork where now it's online,

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<v Speaker 3>so you fill it out online and the you know

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<v Speaker 3>professionals that can really pattern and look at certain things

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<v Speaker 3>like you know what city you were born in, you

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<v Speaker 3>know general idea of time, you know that you can

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<v Speaker 3>somehow get through that information. They can give you a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good time. And then in that case when you

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<v Speaker 3>plug in that information and it the now it's a

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<v Speaker 3>it's a very compla software system that they've created over

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<v Speaker 3>the last since nineteen eighty seven is when this occurred.

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<v Speaker 3>For raw in his name was Robert at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you go, he's passed, but raw is his name.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, we've moved through evolutionary stages of being able

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<v Speaker 3>to compute that chart like that. So software has been

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<v Speaker 3>created and that's constantly being updated. But so when you

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<v Speaker 3>put in your information, the chart produces itself and the

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<v Speaker 3>graph if you look at it, it's not linear, but

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<v Speaker 3>it looks linear. It's more hologenetic because we're human beings.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not like a piece of right, So the understanding

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<v Speaker 3>the chart comes over time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's incredibly complex.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's very complex. So there's an entry way into

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<v Speaker 3>the complexity, and some people can you don't have to

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<v Speaker 3>go deep. Just some of my students knowing what their

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<v Speaker 3>type is and what their strategy is, and how their

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<v Speaker 3>aura functions, how their brain functions as a learning that's enough, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and I have some stories a couple examples of that.

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<v Speaker 3>But the body graphic self produces this constellation of information,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's the imprint of the moment you're born. So

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<v Speaker 3>in the moment you come out of the womb, and

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<v Speaker 3>that could be cesarean, It does not matter. It's that

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<v Speaker 3>moment you're out and there's an Oh, I'm out and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in this world now and I'm imprinted by my environment.

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<v Speaker 3>It's also what's unique about that synthesis of information is

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<v Speaker 3>that it also retro eighty eight days prior to birth,

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<v Speaker 3>so that in that imprint eighty eight days prior, there's

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<v Speaker 3>information that is sort of imprinted into the nervous system

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<v Speaker 3>has epigenetic information. So you know, we look at DNA,

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<v Speaker 3>of the chart, that moment of birth, that eighty eight

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<v Speaker 3>days prior is imprinted with all the astrological symbols and

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<v Speaker 3>they all are archetypes of you know, the father, the mother.

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<v Speaker 3>Expansion depth depends on what planet and where all of

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<v Speaker 3>that ends up in this graph, right so right, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>people look at it and that's why they come to

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<v Speaker 3>What's unique about the human design system as a newer

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<v Speaker 3>science of astrology is that this idea of there's types

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<v Speaker 3>and there's five of them, and each type based on

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<v Speaker 3>then you begin to understand, Ah, that's a part of

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<v Speaker 3>my role. But this is how my energy works in

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<v Speaker 3>this lifetime. So I don't need to be like a generator.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry about that. Where generators typically were conditioned to work

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<v Speaker 3>all the same and even our you know, we way

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<v Speaker 3>same way, and we all know that doesn't work and

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<v Speaker 3>we end up finding our way through that better or worse, right,

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<v Speaker 3>But that type a specific aura, and based on that,

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<v Speaker 3>it has a way of making decisions that those decisions

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<v Speaker 3>are what connects us to our authority of inner truth.

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<v Speaker 3>And that authority gives us does not come from our mind.

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<v Speaker 3>From the perspective of human design, it is not a

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<v Speaker 3>mental process. It's a decision making process that comes from

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<v Speaker 3>our body. And that's very new. And if you know,

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<v Speaker 3>how to be in the body, how to understand the

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<v Speaker 3>energetics of your body. You could see why I was

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<v Speaker 3>super interested in well this type. So within the graph right,

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<v Speaker 3>there's activations of certain things that happen at birth and

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<v Speaker 3>eighty eight days retro. Right, those activations are specific and

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<v Speaker 3>unique to you, specific and unique to you, specific and

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<v Speaker 3>unique to me, even though I can be a similar

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<v Speaker 3>type to someone else. How those activations you know, what

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<v Speaker 3>what planet, what gate? What hexagram with right, which is

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<v Speaker 3>a those are all very much about how to live life.

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<v Speaker 3>And so when they're activated, that means it's that's more

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<v Speaker 3>of who I am now, whether it's more of who

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<v Speaker 3>lifetime based on its position within that body graph, or

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<v Speaker 3>it's what I came in with retro on that design side.

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<v Speaker 3>That's like why am I so good at that? It's

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<v Speaker 3>a knowledge I already have, whether it's my family's knowledge,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's deep within my body. And so the graph

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<v Speaker 3>itself can show you how the activations of how you

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<v Speaker 3>intuit things, how you how how mmm, how your energy flows.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like a circuit board, and.

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<v Speaker 2>So how can people use this to help their lives?

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<v Speaker 3>In general? What I've seen is that the chart, the

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<v Speaker 3>information and what gets activated provides a person the ability

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<v Speaker 3>to love themselves and live authentically based on the information

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<v Speaker 3>that you're reading or you're understanding about yourself. So there's

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<v Speaker 3>self love. It's not religious in the way of it's

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<v Speaker 3>not meant to be. Follow this and this is the

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<v Speaker 3>only way it's going to be. It's meant to be. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to understand my strategy, which in my case

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<v Speaker 3>is to wait for the invitation. So the five types,

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<v Speaker 3>the manifesture, which is about nine percent of the pop ulation,

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<v Speaker 3>the generator, which is about thirty seven percent I think

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<v Speaker 3>of the population. Then there's a subtype which is called

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<v Speaker 3>a manifesting, a manifesting generator, which the manifesting generator, the

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<v Speaker 3>generator or is the same the manifestors. Aura tends to

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<v Speaker 3>push things out of the way initiate these two like

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<v Speaker 3>you are your generator. It's an enveloping or. It draws

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<v Speaker 3>people in situations to you. So in many ways, a generator,

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<v Speaker 3>the only person really as a type is a manifestor

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<v Speaker 3>is meant to initiate, right because they think of Moses

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<v Speaker 3>parting the sea. The aura of a manifestor moves things

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<v Speaker 3>out and they have a strategy to work with that energy.

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<v Speaker 3>Typically manifestors have a lot of problems because of that

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<v Speaker 3>aura like it's a repelling aura wo and so it

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<v Speaker 3>can be interpreted as as why is everyone always irritated

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<v Speaker 3>with me? Or why so someone understanding how they're are

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<v Speaker 3>functions helps them accept themselves more and actually learn how

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<v Speaker 3>to flow through life situation through How is a manifesture's

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<v Speaker 3>strategy best utilize, which is to inform people of what's

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<v Speaker 3>going on and where generators is really waiting and trusting

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<v Speaker 3>that life is going to bring things to you, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's whether or not I want to say yes or

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<v Speaker 3>no to what is being drawn to me. Because it's

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<v Speaker 3>a enveloping, it's round, it's big and full and it

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's like a warm hug or something like.

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<v Speaker 3>It's I can know that now because I've been around

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<v Speaker 3>them enough that I've tested it and felt it. You

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<v Speaker 1>Then all so it's a great way of building a

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<v Speaker 1>strategy for how you go about life. That's really what

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<v Speaker 1>the chart sounds like. It's what it's for. It's understanding

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<v Speaker 1>your type helps you to establish your strategy for moving forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I know some some folks that know we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it are very much don't volunteer things but rather wait

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<v Speaker 1>for wait to be asked to do things and things

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<v Speaker 1>like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so its generators. It's it's it's such a deep

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<v Speaker 3>trust that life is going to bring me to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Because if the ore is pulling life in, it's it's centripa,

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<v Speaker 3>it's pulling things where instead of trying to initiate and

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<v Speaker 3>force and manifest, generators really don't need to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a process of how do I learn how to

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<v Speaker 3>trust my own internal The strategy would be to wait

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<v Speaker 3>to respond, which has its own you know, complexity to

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<v Speaker 3>it because there's different a tho on that and I'll

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<v Speaker 3>put that there for a moment. Wherein as a projector's aura,

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<v Speaker 3>it's completely it's a cone shape and it's designed to

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<v Speaker 3>Projectors are twenty percent of the population. Reflectors are one.

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<v Speaker 3>You're a reflector, and so the projector's aura is really

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<v Speaker 3>meant to guide, and so its function is to penetrate

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<v Speaker 3>and lock into somebody and initiate some kind of guidance.

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<v Speaker 3>So a lot of people will say it's like being

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<v Speaker 3>poked because it's a cone shape, and not everybody likes that.

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<v Speaker 3>So waiting for knowing that I know I'm a guide.

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<v Speaker 3>I know I will wait if someone wants to hear

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<v Speaker 3>what I have to say, or they come in by

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<v Speaker 3>coming to me as a student tour, as hiring them

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<v Speaker 3>as a coach, or whatever I'm doing with them. That's

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<v Speaker 3>an agreement of I get to guide you right and

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<v Speaker 3>if often. And now that was a game changer for me,

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<v Speaker 3>learning about my own style of how my aura functions

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<v Speaker 3>and my strategy to wait. It took when I really

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<v Speaker 3>committed to it, I changed everything, and my business changed.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything changed, and it took two and a half to

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<v Speaker 3>three years for me to say, Okay, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>test this. So it's not meant. It's not an intellectual

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<v Speaker 3>process like our auras are not intellectual. It's an actual

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<v Speaker 3>experience of oh, I get to feel how my body functions.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that authority that you're talking about doesn't come

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<v Speaker 3>from here, So most people have to there's processes that

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<v Speaker 3>you take bits and pieces of this information in and

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<v Speaker 3>you would apply it and see how it feels for

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<v Speaker 3>you and how it works, and over time you begin

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<v Speaker 3>to see this is far more in my energy flow

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<v Speaker 3>and far more energy efficient for my actual physical body.

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<v Speaker 3>So you have type, strategy and authority. Like my authority

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<v Speaker 3>is emotional. There's sacral authority, which is really about the

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<v Speaker 3>body making sound. My daughter is sacral, so now I

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<v Speaker 3>know she makes this uh huh or uh uh like

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<v Speaker 3>her sound is a part of her decision making. Whereas

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<v Speaker 3>a spleenic authority is in the moment. It's in the

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<v Speaker 3>now because it's the chakra system functions as an awareness

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<v Speaker 3>center and says this is where you need to go

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<v Speaker 3>and it happens momentarily where I have a type of

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<v Speaker 3>authority that I have to wait because it's emotional, I

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<v Speaker 1>And does the chart tell you which one which authorities?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely? It gives you very very clear. This is what

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<v Speaker 3>you are. This is your strategy, this is your authority,

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<v Speaker 3>this is your profile.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm assuming I'm a spleenic.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't. I don't remember what you are. I'd

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<v Speaker 3>have to look you up again.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, because I do act on the moment, I make decisions.

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<v Speaker 3>Shoot, I should I wish I look that on my

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<v Speaker 3>phone because I have your chart on my phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, there's a manifestor, a generator, a projector, and a reflector.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a reflector, right, But the generator has the subtype

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<v Speaker 3>of the manifesting generator, So the manifesting generator. I have

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of manifesting generator clients are a combination chart activation,

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<v Speaker 3>that is, a manifestor and a generator, but their aura

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<v Speaker 3>is still an enveloping or they do not have a

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<v Speaker 3>manifesting manifestor's aura. The aura of a manifestor is very

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<v Speaker 3>distinctly different. It's meant to initiate. So you have these

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<v Speaker 3>themes though that if you're not in your flow of

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<v Speaker 3>decision making. So you asked about how this supports and

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<v Speaker 3>how this is helpful. There is a not self sort

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<v Speaker 3>of theme that's easy to follow that not self would

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<v Speaker 3>be like in your case. In your case, so your

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<v Speaker 3>case would be frustration if you now the thing about

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<v Speaker 3>frustration is this is ananda. Frustration is normal to a

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<v Speaker 3>generator because it helps them grow into their next level.

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<v Speaker 3>But they interpret fust sorry, they interpret frustration as you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a problem or something's wrong with me. So I even

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<v Speaker 3>had my daughter's down the other night, she's trying to

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<v Speaker 3>learn her lines to play. I said, read your strengths,

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<v Speaker 3>read your weaknesses as a generator, and she was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>And it took the pressure off of her. I said,

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<v Speaker 3>the frustration your experiences is your power, first of all,

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<v Speaker 3>and she didn't know what to do. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>she's a child still learning, but that power is a

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<v Speaker 3>So that frustration actually is a healthy thing when you

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<v Speaker 3>understand how to leverage it right. And where is that

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<v Speaker 3>frustration coming from? Is it coming from my head or

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<v Speaker 3>is it actually my body saying I want to grow

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<v Speaker 3>this this thing that I'm working with in my life

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<v Speaker 3>that I said yes to, right, and manifestors, theirs is anger.

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<v Speaker 3>They go right to anger, right, where as a manifesting

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<v Speaker 3>generator has anger and frustration as a as a sign

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<v Speaker 3>that wait a minute, I'm not maybe making decisions the

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<v Speaker 3>way that's best for my chart, my energy flow, what's

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<v Speaker 3>right for me for me, it's for projectors, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Are really.

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<v Speaker 3>They're only the newer of the type. And I won't

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<v Speaker 3>go into a lot of the history of the change,

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<v Speaker 3>but I had mentioned earlier how there was a time

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<v Speaker 3>when this information came in, and it came in because

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<v Speaker 3>we are changing, Our species is changing, we're evolving, and

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<v Speaker 3>we are from that perspective, we're becoming. We're moving out

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<v Speaker 3>of a victimization time, out of a time of emotional turbulence,

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<v Speaker 3>of codependence. This is a trajectory over the next four

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<v Speaker 3>hundred years of where we're going as a species. So

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<v Speaker 3>the information came as a support to evolve us to

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<v Speaker 3>this is what will help you through these times. Trust

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<v Speaker 3>your authority, trust your inner self. This information can only

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<v Speaker 3>be positive in that regard, right, it can only be like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I can utilize this to help me trust more of

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<v Speaker 3>my inner intuition and how my body likes to function

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<v Speaker 3>in everyday life. Because the sub of the chart is

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<v Speaker 3>your strategy, your type, your authority. But what lives underneath it,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's hologenetic I said, is these these sort of

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<v Speaker 3>imagine like a prism, like a or an iceberg. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>we're at the top where the conversation we're having is

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<v Speaker 3>here right in this room, in space and time. But

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<v Speaker 3>underneath it are colors and tones that help us reflect

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<v Speaker 3>out into the world our unique perception of how we

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<v Speaker 3>see the world. So reflectors. Of course, you know that

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<v Speaker 3>you have to wait third or lunar they have to

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<v Speaker 3>wait thirty. But what's so cool about that is that

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<v Speaker 3>you because we can't go into all the open charts

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<v Speaker 3>because I mean the open centers, the chalkras that are open.

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<v Speaker 3>Well could do I have time to say a few

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<v Speaker 3>things about that. A few minutes, one minute, okay, So

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<v Speaker 3>if you have an activation in that graph that you

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<v Speaker 3>were referring to, some of those centers are what's called

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<v Speaker 3>open or undefined, and some of them are defined because

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<v Speaker 3>they have it's a binary like say your spleen center

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<v Speaker 3>connects to your root and it's there both ends are connected,

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<v Speaker 3>so they're defined. They're colored in right. The open centers

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<v Speaker 3>in the chart, which for a reflector, they're all open,

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<v Speaker 3>but you have activations through it. So when you're open,

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<v Speaker 3>I will say really quickly about that, because open centers

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<v Speaker 3>will typically amplify the energy of that center in the environment.

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<v Speaker 3>So I mentioned earlier how this helps my clients or

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<v Speaker 3>how I helped with meditators. If they have an open

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<v Speaker 3>head or an open asna, their meditation process is going

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<v Speaker 3>to look very different. If you have an open emotional

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<v Speaker 3>center like my daughter does, and I'm defined in my

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<v Speaker 3>emotional center, she's going to amplify that energy and she

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<v Speaker 3>would could possibly be seen as the one who's overemotional,

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<v Speaker 3>when in truth, that center is giving her information that

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot going on in my environment that's very

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<v Speaker 3>emotional and it's not mine, right, So those open centers

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<v Speaker 3>become deeply filled with wisdom about our environment and what's

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<v Speaker 3>going on, and we learn about that. In your case,

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<v Speaker 3>they're all open, So throughout that entire lunar cycle, you

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<v Speaker 3>are experiencing all of the activations that we go through

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<v Speaker 3>every thirty days anyway through because the cosmos is we're moving.

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<v Speaker 3>So you might feel yourself as a manifestor one day,

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<v Speaker 3>you might feel yourself next week as the generator energy

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<v Speaker 3>or the projector energy. Reflectors become a really unique mirror

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<v Speaker 3>to the health of any environment you're in, whether it's

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<v Speaker 3>your work environment, your family, and depending on where the

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<v Speaker 3>activation is or like you and I get together, you

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<v Speaker 3>have one gait activated, I of the other end. We

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<v Speaker 3>plug in there and we're like, wow, we're really connected

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<v Speaker 3>based on those centers connecting, but in our auras connecting,

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<v Speaker 3>and so it's helped me understand friends, understand family members,

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<v Speaker 3>understand its mechanics. It's not personal, you know, manifestors, it's

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<v Speaker 3>just not personal. It's just the way they're designed, but

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<v Speaker 3>the lunar, it's unique, It goes through many tastes and

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<v Speaker 3>it's very fun to be around electors.

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<v Speaker 1>And all this would be is so much easier visualizing

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<v Speaker 1>when you have your chart in front of you.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, And that's the hard part of this is that

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<v Speaker 3>it really and it's meant to be a lived experience.

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<v Speaker 3>It's meant to be tested, it's meant not to be like,

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<v Speaker 3>don't believe me, don't believe it, like it's meant to

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<v Speaker 3>be like if this is truth for you, great and

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<v Speaker 3>if it's not great, just like anyone else any other right,

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<v Speaker 3>exactly so, But it has brought incredible clarity for my

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<v Speaker 3>clients in terms of, like if we're working a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of emotional energy for them and they constantly are having

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<v Speaker 3>a look at their chart, and I can say, look,

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<v Speaker 3>let's put this in a perspective that some of what

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<v Speaker 3>you're going through isn't yours. So your artistry now is

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<v Speaker 3>when you're in a situation that you're feeling super anxious

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<v Speaker 3>or activated, that you consider that it's not I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>some part of it is going to be a part

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<v Speaker 3>of them, right, but we have to discern that over time,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you leave the situation, get yourself grounded, and

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<v Speaker 3>then come back. But typically in that scenario, a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people feel like, why am I always the one

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<v Speaker 3>who feels so emotional or being called I'm emotional? So

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<v Speaker 3>Raw really put forth that this is for the children.

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<v Speaker 3>For the children, Wow, Okay, for the children.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's just disappointing because I really wanted to know.

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<v Speaker 3>But the parents have to parent, all right, So I do.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm finishing some training around working with families and working

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<v Speaker 3>with because the kids just get it. They're they're not

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<v Speaker 3>as conditioned as adults are. They don't have to go

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<v Speaker 3>through a lot of you know, and if you have

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<v Speaker 3>a natural skepticism to you in your chart, then your

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<v Speaker 3>approach to this material is going to be not because

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<v Speaker 3>being a scout dick is bad, but because you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to want to challenge that. Like Raw was a manifestor

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<v Speaker 3>who was a skeptic. So he was he was a

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<v Speaker 3>reluctant mystic. He was not particularly prepared for what he

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<v Speaker 3>was getting ready to go through. Yeah, but anyway, you

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<v Speaker 3>can see how it's a little complex to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Giving us a ton of information and yet just barely

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<v Speaker 1>stressed stretch. So if someone wanted to learn more about

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<v Speaker 1>human design. What's the best way for someone to do that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mentioned earlier how many teachers are out there,

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<v Speaker 3>so I will say that it's helpful to go to

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<v Speaker 3>the Jovian Archive, which is the original sort of content material,

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<v Speaker 3>and then find people who are guides like myself, who

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<v Speaker 3>have and working with the material for a period of time.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's lots of them out there. There's YouTube videos.

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<v Speaker 3>Now there's Karen Curry Parker who was a student of

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<v Speaker 3>RAS and actually worked with the institute. Her work is excellent.

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<v Speaker 3>Richard Rudd's work, you know, they're they've had their own transmissions.

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<v Speaker 3>They were both students of RAW.

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<v Speaker 1>And now we're getting into gene keys.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, yeah, which is a whole other thing. But he

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<v Speaker 3>was a student. I mean, he's a big student of

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<v Speaker 3>the e ching and that material came from human Design.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if someone specifically wanted to contact you your incredible

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<v Speaker 2>how would they do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Through my website which is Gabrielle Gerard.

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<v Speaker 1>Wonderful always used to hang with you and.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll have the glass of wine and I'll give you more.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thanks so much for coming on and sharing your

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<v Speaker 1>wisdom with us, and a huge Thank you to you.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that there are tons of options out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and having you decide to come along on our journey

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<v Speaker 1>of discovery with us is an absolute honor for us.

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<v Speaker 1>We hope you've enjoyed this conversation as much as we have.

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<v Speaker 1>more and more robust ways. Well that's all for now.

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