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much for your support. So last hour was talking, I

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went over the release of another trunch or trove of

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documents that were released. These were provided to Senator Chuck

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Grassley by a whistleblower inside the government that showed the

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FBI issued nearly two hundred subpoenas targeting more than four

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hundred Republican entities and individuals as part of the probe.

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And some of the more egregious stuff occurred with the

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signing off of subpoenas in a court order to keep

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it secret from the targets of those subpoenas, including US senators,

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because they the judge Bosburg, or as I call him

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bo as Berg, I just find it more fitting and

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it's more fun to say, but he alleged in this

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ruling basically to keep it secret that somehow or another,

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Ted Cruz among others would destroy or tamper with evidence

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and it would intimidate witnesses or something, and so he

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couldn't be told that all of his records were being

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subpoena his phone records. AT and T refused to comply.

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Verizon not so much. Verizon did comply with the subpoenas.

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AT and T did not, at least with Ted Cruz.

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So a couple of messages regarding that, Todd says on

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the text line, laughing at them, calling Trump a dictator

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and no kings. Right, Biden was and will go down

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in history as the most corrupt administration ever. Yeah, this

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is why the no Kings rhetoric does not persuade me

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one bit. It just doesn't because it's ridiculous when you

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look at what Biden did, and now you have people

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accusing Trump, Oh my gosh, he's going to do these

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things that like Joe Biden was doing, like oh, we're

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so afraid of the weaponization of the DOJ and going

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after political enemies. Yeah, tell me more about it. You've

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got now multiple times where the Democrat controlled DJ went

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after Trump and now hundreds of Republicans sitting lawmakers, think tanks, nonprofits,

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and I'm supposed to believe that, oh my gosh, this

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is something that Trump is going to do and this

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would be unprecedented. Yeah, if I hadn't been paying any attention,

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like over the last minute, then I guess that might

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be persuasive. Jason says, I am growing more and more.

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I'm growing more and more on leaning towards completely deconstructing

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the DOJ and the FBI. There has been no evidence

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that this won't happen again. I'm not saying abolish, but

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these organizations have to be reduced and localized in my

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humble opinion, and this is always the problems, and it's

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especially one that conservatives grapple with because conservatives are the

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ones who seek to conserve before tearing down and replacing. Right,

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that's kind of in the conservative genetics, you know, it's

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to not just willing nely blow stuff up. It's to Okay,

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we want to preserve this institution because obviously it was

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created for some reason, and if it has flaws and

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it's doing things that it shouldn't be doing, then we

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should rain that in, but we need to go at

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it with a scalpel, not a sledgehammer, that kind of approach.

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But I said probably several years ago now, and I'm

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still not convinced that I was in error when I

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said it, But I became convinced that the FBI needs

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to be just dismantled, just taking apart, because I don't

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know any other way to address it. You're going to

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put people in there and they're going to try to

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make changes. Okay, great, but there's nothing to prevent these

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kinds of bad actors from getting in there and doing

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it again as soon as the change agents are gone.

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You heard Senator Ron Johnson. I played the SoundBite in

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the last hour. He said, some of these nefarious bureaucrats

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and bad actors in the DOJ, they have burrowed in.

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How do you like, how do you identify them? How

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do you get them out? Like? It's a problem, It's

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a very big problem. There are a lot of people

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that participated in these efforts across multiple jurisdictions, all across

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the country, at all levels of the DOJ and the FBI.

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You have people in the CIA and the various alphabet

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intel agencies all over the place. This is a very

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big problem, and you've got conservatives that want to see

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heads roll. People need to be held accountable, and if

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you don't hold them accountable, then it guarantees that it's

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going to happen again. I said this last night at

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the News and brus event. It's a quote from Jordan Peterson,

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which is, unguarded stores of value will be set upon

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by parasites. You have to protect that which is valuable,

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whether it's an institution right that has built up credibility

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through many decades of important and solid work to then

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just be taken over from the inside, whether it's the

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judicial system. When you get a bunch of critical race

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theorists and Marxists that infiltrate and take over. This is

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what parasites do. They go in and they infest and

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they feed off the host because it was an unguarded

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store of value. That value had been accumulated by people

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over decades or centuries, and then they left it unprotected

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and then it gets ravaged. This is why the Fabian Socialists,

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by the way, had as their original mascot and then

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realized at some point a couple of years down the road,

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they were like, yeah, I don't think we should use

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this as a mascot anymore because it may be giving

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away the game. It was literally a wolf in sheep's clothing.

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That was their mascot. I'm not kidding. It's a cartoon,

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it's drawing, but that was their mascot. A wolf in

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sheep's clothing and the sheep. Remember the sheep is dead.

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See people kind of think like, oh, look at that,

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he's just dressed up like a sheep. Like he went

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down to the five and ten. Do they even have

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those anymore? Anyway, he went down to the store and

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bought a sheep costume. No, no, no, no, the wolf

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killed the sheep and then wore the sheep's skin as

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a costume. That's the point. That's exactly what Jordan Peterson

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was talking about. You wear this skin of this respected

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institution and then demand the respect that that institution had

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acquired even though you did not do anything except kill it.

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You gutted it, and you wear its skin. You can

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see this replicated all across institution, whether it's K twelve education,

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whether it's colleges, whether it's churches. That's happening a lot, right.

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You've got these outside groups they come in, they agitate,

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they take over, and then they gut. They gut that church,

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and then they walk around with its skin and demand

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everybody respect it like they had earned it. When they

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did not, they simply killed the original institution. Now there

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is a bit of good news. We do have some

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charges that have been brought against a far left activist

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podcaster streamer chick who's running for Congress in Illinois. Her

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name is cat A bug has a lay. That's her name.

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How nou has a lay? Abug haz a l e

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h A bug has a lay. That's what it says.

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I'm just saying that's what it says. So this woman,

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along with five other protesters, some of whom have ties

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to local politics, were indicted on federal charges after attempting

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to block a US Immigration and Customs enforcement vehicle from

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driving into a federal immigration facility and damage the vehicle

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in the process. The six people were all indicted on

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two counts of conspiracy to impede or injure a federal

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law enforcement officer and forcibly impeding, intimidating, or interfering with

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a federal law enforcement officer while engaged in official duties.

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So the Illinois congressional candidate kat A Bug has a lay.

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She has gone to her or her streaming platform where

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she is saying, You'll never guess it's political persecution. You know.

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you are, visit Creative video dot com. I got a

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tweet here. It's a peat tweet from Moral Compass, who says,

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I am sure the Democrats will complain about retaliation. It's

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like someone steals your car, you have them arrested, and

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then they say, you're just trying to get back at

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me for taking your car. Yeah, that's that Moral Compass's tweet.

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There was about the topic from the first hour about

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going after the people that weaponize the DOJ and they'll

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claim now political persecution. Yet that is precisely what this

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Illinois congressional candidate kat A bug has a lay. That's

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what she's claiming because she got indicted on two counts

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of conspiracy to impede or injure a federal law enforcement

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officer and forcibly impeding, intimidating, or interfering with a federal

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law enforcement office while engaged in official duties. This was

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based on an incident that occurred September twenty sixth when

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this when her, along with five others, tried to block

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an ICE agent from entering the Broadview Illinois Immigration facility.

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This is all on video. She's on video. The group

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banged aggressively quote unquote on the vehicle, pushed against the

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vehicle to hinder and impede its movement. According to the indictment,

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it was also reported that the word pig was etched

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into the vehicle right, so keyed. They keyed the vehicle,

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and the group damaged not only a side mirror but

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also the back windshield wiper. So they damaged the vehicle.

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They attacked it right. They were attacking the vehicle. They

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were trying to impede the vehicle. They were trying to

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prevent the law enforcement officer from carrying out their lawful duties.

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If convicted, there is the potential which I doubt this

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would happen, but there is the potential to serve up

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to fourteen years in prison, up to six years for

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the conspiracy charge and up to eight for the intimidation charge.

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A Bug Hazila, running for Illinois's ninth congressional district, is

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one of the many Democrats vying to win the seat

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after incumbent Representative Jan Schakowski decided to retire. In a

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recent social media post, she characterized the indictment as quote

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political persecution, saying this case is a major push by

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the Trump administration to criminalize protest. That no, you are

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free to protest. It's right there. I feel like I'm like,

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I'm channeling that dude eating the dry ramen noodles, pointing

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to the screen behind him where it shows the First

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Amendment to peaceably assemble. You can peaceably assemble, but when

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you start attacking vehicles, that now is not peaceable. That's

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the difference. Engaging in violence means you are not peaceably assembling.

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Oh my gosh, words are violence, but violence is not. Meanwhile,

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US Immigration and Customs enforcement officers are facing a surge

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in death threats and violent attacks as they carry out

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the crackdown on illegal immigration. This from foxnews dot Com.

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Statistics released by the Department of Homeland Security yesterday show

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that ICE officers are experiencing an eight thousand percent increase

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in death threats. Eight thousand percent increase, Assistant DHS Secretary

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Tricia McLaughlin said, quote from bounties placed on their heads

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for their orders, threats to their families, stalking, dosing. Our

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officers are experiencing an unprecedented level of violence. There was

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just recently the other day. Eduardo Agualar, a Mexican national

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living in the US illegally in Dallas was arrested for

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allegedly as soliciting the murder of ICE agents. He put

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it up on TikTok, so he's not the smartest. He's

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not the smartest guy looking for a hit job. But

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I have found that to be the case, like when

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people people try to hire hit men, you know, like

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you hear about these stories all the time. They're usually

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not very bright. But maybe that's just the ones that

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we find out about, you know. The post was written

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in Spanish and did offer ten thousand dollars for the

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murder of an ICE agent and called for quote ten

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dudes in Dallas with determination who are not afraid to

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and they and he's got little skull emojis. Also in Texas,

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an ICE officer's spouse was threatened over the phone when

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a caller said, quote, I don't know how you let

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your husband work for ICE and you sleep at night? Bleep,

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you bleep your family. I hope your kids get deported

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by accident. How do you sleep? Bleep? You Did you

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hear what happened to the Nazis after World War Two?

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Because it's what's going to happen to your family, so

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they're calling ice agent spouses. Meanwhile, over on Blue Sky,

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the social media platform, apparently all of the calls for

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death and attacks on Trump and Republicans and such that's

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apparently not just allowed, but now it's protected. I mean,

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I can only assume this is the new norm. Welcome

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Bloomberg Law dot com by Benpenn that's his name. A

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jury took about two hours to acquit a man accused

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of soliciting President Donald Trump's assassination on social media, a

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setback for the Justice Department office led by Trump's newly

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installed loyalist Lindsey Halligan, who had nothing actually to do

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with this case. It's so stupid. This is a legacy

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outlet's I'll tell you she has nothing to do with

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this case. The charges were brought before she got there,

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before she was installed. She did not try this case.

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She didn't have anything to do with it. Prosecutors tried

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to establish that Peter Stinson's February eighteenth post on Blue Sky,

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along with dozens of other anti Trump posts going back years,

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amounted to evidence that he was inducing others to commit violence.

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Why would they think that, Well, here's the post from

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February eighteenth, quote take the shot, We'll deal with the fallout.

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But that is not evidence that he's trying to induce

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people to commit violence. When he tells them take the shot,

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that's not telling people to take a shot, see right.

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His defense lawyers said that those comments are protected by

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the first and that he never took actual steps to

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carry out an assassination. You see, he's a former Coastguard officer.

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I think I saw I believe I saw a report

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that said he was a sharpshooter. So here's a former

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coastie who is telling people to take the shot online,

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along with you know, scores of other posts encouraging people

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to exact violence on Trump. But that's not an inducement

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of some kind. The government pointed to Stinson's history of

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incendiary posts on Twitter formerly known as x as well

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as Blue Sky, because Blue Sky was the platform that

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was set up by Jack Dorsey, the founder of Twitter,

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after he was ousted from Twitter I think twice, and

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then he went off and started blue Sky, and that

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then immediately had this migration of all the lefties from Twitter.

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When Elon bought Twitter, They're like, I hate to Elon,

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You're letting Republicans to post on Twitter. And so then

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the lefties go over to blue Sky. And I'm going

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to get into that a little bit in a minute.

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But this guy Stinson, after Trump was shot in Butler, Pennsylvania,

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he posted a bunch of stuff like three inches to

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the right and the shot would have gone through his eyeball. Practice,

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practice practice. That's not an inducement, that's not an incitement, though.

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He's just encouraging people to be a better shot when

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they happened to completely on their own, without any inducement

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or incitement, to be better at murdering somebody. The primary

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expert witness for the defense as a psychologist specializing in

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online radicalization and social media violence, and this expert argued

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that prosecutors targeted Stinson without charging all of the other

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people who post similar sentiments about the president without ever

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acting on them. See so if you don't charge every person,

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then you can't charge this guy. Quote. That's just incredible

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to me that anyone in good faith would say that

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the fact he posted a bunch of times that he

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wished the president to be dead, that that's a solicitation

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of murder. This is University of Maryland professor Jen Goldbeck Stinson,

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who was indicted before Halligan arrived in the prosecutor's office.

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He faced a charge under solicitation statute that requires the

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government to prove his advocacy for the violence is strongly corroborated.

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One attorney not associated with this case said, the solicitation

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requires that kind of proof to distinguish idle chatter and

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protected speech from communications strongly corroborating the speakers intend to

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have the president killed. In Stanton's case, such evidence would

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have included, you know, the defendant communicating with somebody that

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he felt was capable and willing to assassinate Trump. See

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so that's the standard. Now, so you can go online,

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you can call for people to be murdered. I guess

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as long as you don't know who's reading your tweet,

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and as long as you don't know that somebody reading

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the tweet is capable and willing, which is impossible to

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know due to the nature of online discourse. Right, you

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post something up there and you have no idea who's

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going to see this stuff. This is why it requires responsibility.

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This is something that people I know a lot of

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people may roll their eyes at this, but this is

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something that people in my line of work, we are

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taught this. You have a responsibility to not say things

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that can be construed as inciting violence because you don't

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ever know who's going to hear it, and you don't

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ever know how they're going to be maybe motivated by

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something that you say. So you don't want that on you,

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and so you watch what you say and you make

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sure to say that I am not for this thing.

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But now everybody's got their own printing press, their own

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radio station, their own TV station, everybody has their own

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social media platform and they don't understand that responsibility. And

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due to the nature of the social media world, you

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post some stupid stuff up there, it goes viral. You

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have no idea who is hearing or reading what you

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are saying. This seems like a pretty absurd standard, now

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it really does. So I can get on there. I

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can say all sorts of stuff that I could never

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say on the radio, but I could say stuff on

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social media, knowing that it may have actually a much

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wider reach because it's not contained by you know, an

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FCC regulated radio footprint. It goes far beyond the Charlotte

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metro area. So I can go on there and just

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throw all of this stuff out there and incite people

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towards violence and then say, well, I didn't actually have

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a direct communication with them. I couldn't know that, you know,

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one of the million people that saw my call for violence,

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I didn't know that they were actually willing and capable

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of performing the violence I was calling for them to do.

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So now I get to walk away. Yeah, I think

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there probably needs to be some sort of reinterpretation of

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what of what the responsibility is I really do. Speaking

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of Blue Sky, Nate Silver did a write up on

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a couple of weeks ago, and he dubbed a term

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called blue skyism. Blue sky Ism. Blue Sky is this

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Twitter knockoff that was once billed as a kinder gentler

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alternative to what is now known as X. He says,

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it's probably not on death's door, but after a burst

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of growth around the election, it's shrinking and steadily declining

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an influence even as other corners of the left thrive

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during Trump's second term. The life and death of social

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media platforms are dictated by network effects. Although there can

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sometimes be inflection points, for the most part, their trajectory

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is pretty predictable. You join them because other people are

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joining them, and that in turn makes them progressively more useful,

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and you remain on them out of habit until and

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unless a critical mass leaves for somewhere else. Did that

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happen with Blue Sky? The evidence suggests no. All right,

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if you're listening to this show, you know I try

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to keep up with all sorts of current events, and

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podcast description too. I started using ground News a few

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months ago and more recently chose to work with them

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as an affiliate because it lets me see clearly how

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stories get covered and by whom. The blind spot feature

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I was telling my wife about the ice threats swirling

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on Blue Sky and accidentally called it lefty socialist media site.

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I'm going to keep making that mistake. That's a good

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mistake to keep making. It's not a mistake. Actually, since

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the election, the platform has lost ground. The number of

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unique posters has dropped by more than a half since

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the election. That's when it was really at its peak.

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And while a dedicated troop of Blue Sky regulars are

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still skating up a storm, is that the word for it,

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they call it. When they post over a blue sky,

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they call it skating skate ski. Okay, they are gaining

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less and less traction, preaching only to the converted. Blue

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Sky was popular among the Twitter refugees who hate Elon Musk,

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and this self selection created a certain type of user,

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people who adhere to an attitude that Nate Silver dubs

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Blue skyism, and it should not be mistaken for general

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left of center political views. It statistically is significantly higher

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in states with a large white population. It's where most

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of the use occurs white population and where the percentage

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of people with advanced degrees is higher. Does a sound familiar?

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Blue Sky is disproportionately popular in Washington, DC, also in

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crunchy white states like Vermont and Oregon. Demographics alone only

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goes so far and explaining Blue Skyism, though it's not

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a political movement so much as a tribal affiliation, a

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niche or niche set of attitude and style of discursive norms.

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Here's the key that almost seemed designed in a lab

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to be as unappealing as possible to anybody outside of

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the click. It is so right if you have ever

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been over there, It is just thoroughly obnoxious. This is

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a very lengthy piece, by the way, it's over at

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natesilver dot net called what is blue Skyism? It isn't

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very influential today. He says, what I call blue skyism

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has a longer history and predates the platform. It once

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did have a lot of purchase on Twitter at a

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moment when Twitter was more influential than it is now,

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as it often served as the assignment editor for the

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mainstream media. He is exactly right on that blue Skyism's

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peak actually came before Blue sky was even a thing,

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around twenty nineteen twenty twenty. You'll notice that blue skyists

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often have a lot of nostalgia for this period, the

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one and perhaps only time when they improbably became the

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prom king this time, yeah, because they were canceling all

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of the conservatives off of Twitter. Right. This was at

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the time when you had the social media platforms that

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were banning and shadow banning conservatives left and right based

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on all of these lefties that were in these NGOs

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that were pressuring the tech companies. And they have to

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do their part and make to make sure that you know,

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Donald Trump doesn't win re election and all of that

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the time he coincided with the twenty twenty presidential primary,

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when there was a huge gap between the most prominent

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voices on Twitter and those of the actual Democrat base.

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The ultimate result was the rejection of various more online

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and left wing candidates for nostalgia and more centrist Joe Biden. Right,

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So this was like the first like coalescing of these

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radical left wingers outside of the you know, the more

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establishment leaning Democrats. What really matters in elections is simply

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being popular and winning over new converts. Blue skyism, with

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its intolerance for dissent, is the opposite of that. Why

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it had such a foothold on Twitter. As a complicated question,

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he says, I'm not so sure. He goes on to

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say Blue skyists love the drama. These pylons that they

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love to participate in, creates an impression of false consensus.

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If you were a young journalist, say first year on

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the job, not having built up the audience to spin

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a failed cancelation attempt into a popular sub stack, which

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is so true, Yeah, then they had to have a

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chilling effect when you would see the pylons happen. If

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you're a reporter, you don't want that happening to you.

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The COVID pandemic then further accentuated this by turning everybody

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very online out of necessity. That gave the Blue skyists

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a sort of home court advantage. But as we've seen

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over the past few months, blue Skyist attitudes are not

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actually winning out in the marketplace of ideas. He claims,

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as some Blue skyists like to think that, but it's

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not true. If they were, it would not be the

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case that Blue Sky is getting just one sixtieth the

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traffic that Twitter does. The three essential characteristics of Blue

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Skyism Number one aggressive policing of dissent and censorship okay

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number one, Number two appeals to authority, and number three

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humorless scoldy neuroticism yeah, check, check and check yes. Policing

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of dissent, particularly of people that are just outside the

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circle right, who might have broader credibility on the center left.

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This is interesting, see because a lot of conservatives like

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they're not on Blue Sky there's no reason to be

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there because of the Blue sky Ism. Who wants to

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be a part of that? And if you do go

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over there, you get banned immediately. People who are not

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even conservative, but are like center and center left leaning.

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They set up an account and then they are dog

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piled immediately with report. You know, they get their accounts

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get reported for hate and problematic thoughts and such, and

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then they get they get banned. There was one guy,

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I'm trying to remember who it was. I don't remember

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Jesse Singaal I think it was. He's like, I think

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it's him. I think he's center left, but he's done

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a lot of stuff about the transgender issue that is

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not trans affirming. And he set up his account. He

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was banned within a minute. As soon as people found

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out he was there, they banned him. They just kept

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report mass reporting his account. That's what they do to

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the people that are just outside the circle of far leftism.

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Their biggest enemies are people on the center left like

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Nate Silver, Matt Iglesias, as reclined, or center left media

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institutions like The New York Times. And now that means

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blue skyism is losing the battle of ideas. It just

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draws the tent narrower, and it ensures that it will

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remain obscure. There's nothing more Blue skyist than this literally

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creating a list of shame of Blue Sky posters because

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they remain on Twitter. They created like how dare you

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have an account on Twitter as well, and so they've

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created a list of shame of Blue Sky people. The

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appeals to authority, particularly academic authority, centering of the suitability

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of the speaker based on his or her credentials and

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or identity characteristics as opposed to the strength of his

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or her argument. That's what they are about over there.

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He talks about a subculture like Blue Skyism that sees

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depression as a rational and even virtuous response. Is going

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to select for a lot of miserable people. And that's

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who's over there. Being depressed is virtuous on Blue Sky

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And that's going to mean that you are a self

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selecting a lot of miserable people. And what do we

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00:37:03,639 --> 00:37:08,000
know about misery? It likes company. So the Blue Skyists

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gather in a corner exchanging tales of woe while the

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rest of us just slink away. That is Blue Skyism.

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And whatever you think about Nate Silver, I think he

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nails it here. All right. That'll do it for this episode.

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