Speaker 2: At a book.
Speaker 1: Hey everyone, thanks so much for joining us for this
Speaker 1: special midweek episode of the show. I really appreciate you
Speaker 1: showing up and tuning in. On episodes three ninety nine
Speaker 1: and four eighty eight, tonight's guest came on and told
Speaker 1: us about multiple encounters she had with a female dog
Speaker 1: me in her I guess I should say a dog
Speaker 1: woman that she affectionately calls Imber. Well, not too long ago.
Speaker 1: It was actually in July she reached out to me
Speaker 1: to let me know that she had had another experience
Speaker 1: with Imber and she was wanting to know if I'd
Speaker 1: like to get a full update on what happened. So
Speaker 1: of course I said, yeah, I definitely would, And of
Speaker 1: course we scheduled the time for the film conversation where
Speaker 1: she could do that bring me up to speed, and
Speaker 1: she was just going detail by detail through. When once
Speaker 1: she shared a particular detail about that experience, it just
Speaker 1: blew me away. It really did. It blew her away
Speaker 1: when she noticed what she told me about and what
Speaker 1: she consequently is going to pass along to you. Well
Speaker 1: enough one to find details like that. Let's just bring
Speaker 1: her in here now so we can get down to
Speaker 1: brass tacks and have Kim tell us about what's happened.
Speaker 1: Tonight's guest is Kim Kim. Thanks so much for coming.
Speaker 2: Back, Hivick and the rest of the dog Man Encounters
Speaker 2: Radio family.
Speaker 1: Kim, you've been How should I put it? I just
Speaker 1: say you've become a show celebrity in a big sense.
Speaker 1: I mean, people have been looking forward to you coming
Speaker 1: back and given these updates on this most recent experience.
Speaker 2: I think that just comes from the fact that my
Speaker 2: encounter has been more pleasant and than a lot of
Speaker 2: what the other people have gone through. I've not had
Speaker 2: the terrors that other people have.
Speaker 1: Well, I see that as being a great thing for
Speaker 1: more reason than one. Lately, there's been a stretch of
Speaker 1: bad encounters. Eyewitnesses have been sharing with me. It's been bad.
Speaker 1: I mean they've been really traumatized by them, and understandably
Speaker 1: so if you knew what they went through with these encounters,
Speaker 1: Like I said, they're particularly traumatic experiences. Of course, there's
Speaker 1: the one I told you about I told the listeners
Speaker 1: about where the eyewitness said that he has felt tortured
Speaker 1: up until present day about his encounter because of what
Speaker 1: happened that experience. Other experiences when you came along, you
Speaker 1: came along at the right time, because yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you can kind of get down in the dunk when
Speaker 1: you're exposed to so many negative experiences. But when you
Speaker 1: came along in July to give me the good news
Speaker 1: about what happened when you had your experience, I needed that.
Speaker 1: So I didn't tell you all this background info. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it was really a good thing when you did that.
Speaker 2: Well, the only reason that you heard from me, it
Speaker 2: was because of Cody's show. You had reached out to
Speaker 2: me to tell me about Cody's show, and I was like, well,
Speaker 2: I'll just tell you where I've been recently and what
Speaker 2: I've been having go on.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you did. Foreyone who isn't putting two
Speaker 1: and two together. Cody's the eyewitness of Kim on recently
Speaker 1: to tell us about his experiences with Sasha, the dog
Speaker 1: woman that's been hanging around his rural property. That's what
Speaker 1: Kim's talking about. Kim, for any of the listeners who
Speaker 1: missed episodes three ninety nine and four eighty eight, please
Speaker 1: tell us about yourself, and then also please tell them
Speaker 1: the cliff Notes version of the experiences came one of
Speaker 1: those two shows and told us about.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm basically a retired nurse, which is temporary because
Speaker 2: of a health issue. But I'm a vibrational sound therapist,
Speaker 2: which is kind of an odd thing. We won't we
Speaker 2: won't expand on that single. I live in a motor
Speaker 2: home and I go back and forth to Mounern Springs, Kansas,
Speaker 2: from Kansas City, Kansas to my mother's and that's the
Speaker 2: area that I have had all my and and run
Speaker 2: ends with Amber. I don't know, uh vic. My first
Speaker 2: encounter was when I was sixteen and I was out
Speaker 2: one summer night with my little country boyfriend and we
Speaker 2: had a huge male dog man crossed the road in
Speaker 2: front of us, and I thought I was looking at
Speaker 2: Satan at that point in time, because I had no
Speaker 2: idea what they were. I had never heard of them,
Speaker 2: and there were a lot of rumors going on, and
Speaker 2: that was back when the Satanic panic was going on.
Speaker 2: He was about ten foot tall and he was a
Speaker 2: little bit frightening, but he crossed in front of us
Speaker 2: and then went together side of the road, and I
Speaker 2: could it was everything I could do to get the
Speaker 2: man in the truck to keep driving and get away
Speaker 2: from this creature, but it just stood there and looked
Speaker 2: at us, did nothing but stand there and look at us.
Speaker 2: I had a pretty good view of him, but I
Speaker 2: described him in that show. I'm not going to describe
Speaker 2: him again. I'm just giving you a kind of a
Speaker 2: thumbnail version of this. And fast forward to about a
Speaker 2: year ago, last spring and fall. I was coming and
Speaker 2: going to my mother's lot, and that's the first time
Speaker 2: I saw Ember. I was just meandering along a road
Speaker 2: that day side road out where I usually drive through,
Speaker 2: and I heard footsteps in the leaves, and I thought
Speaker 2: maybe it was somebody on a horse. But it wasn't
Speaker 2: four feet it was two, and it was amber. She.
Speaker 2: I think I startled her as much as she startled me.
Speaker 2: Of course, I was shocked. And I stood there and
Speaker 2: looked at her for a few minutes, and after she
Speaker 2: bared her teeth at me, I left drove away. About
Speaker 2: two weeks after that, I was in the same area
Speaker 2: and in the distance along a backfield, I saw what
Speaker 2: I thought were five of them in various sizes, and
Speaker 2: I was thinking that maybe was her and her family,
Speaker 2: because it was just within like two weeks time when
Speaker 2: I did see those again, and then recently I had
Speaker 2: encountered her again in the same area. The anything west
Speaker 2: of where they are is pretty well more rural than east,
Speaker 2: and they're staying in the same area. She's about two
Speaker 2: miles from where I saw her the first time. Right now,
Speaker 2: that's when I saw her this time, Victor, you want
Speaker 2: me to just tell the story.
Speaker 1: Not yet. I've got a few more questions for you,
Speaker 1: such as, how did you come up with such a
Speaker 1: great name for that's perfect Ember?
Speaker 2: Amber? Okay, Well, honestly I had I had Pomeranian puppies
Speaker 2: at one point in time, and there was one little
Speaker 2: puppy that was colored almost just like her, and the
Speaker 2: lady that adopted her named her Ember. So this little
Speaker 2: this little dog lady looked like that puppy in color,
Speaker 2: not not in cute, her size, just in color. That's
Speaker 2: how I came up with the name Ember. I also
Speaker 2: have a honorary granddaughter named Emberlin. So Amber just was
Speaker 2: just a good name.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a great name for it really is.
Speaker 1: I'm impressed.
Speaker 2: It was mostly her eyes amongst the ash color of
Speaker 2: he fur, those bright, bright yellow golden eyes amongst the
Speaker 2: ash color of fur, like an Ember that's still burning.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Well, that's witty. Like I said, that is a great
Speaker 1: name for before you have this most recent encounter in July.
Speaker 1: Do you been thinking about her much?
Speaker 2: Oh? Every time I drive through there, I'm down that
Speaker 2: way at least two to three times a week, and
Speaker 2: i go the exact same route every time, and I'm
Speaker 2: always looking.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, that is a lot of effort to try
Speaker 1: and see her. Do you subscribe to the idea that
Speaker 1: by thinking about her as much as you have been
Speaker 1: that maybe you made it more likely that you actually would.
Speaker 2: I'm tending to lean towards that. Now. That wasn't something
Speaker 2: that I had become sure of, but that's very much
Speaker 2: what I'm leaning towards thinking these days. Yes, after what
Speaker 2: happened to the other what happened to July.
Speaker 1: Definitely, if you're somewhat closed mind, it's all too easy
Speaker 1: to think that there's no possibility that obsessing on something
Speaker 1: could affect your chances of encountering it again. But this
Speaker 1: world is a strange place, It operates in strange ways.
Speaker 1: Maybe there is something to that. Maybe it did increase the.
Speaker 2: Well. As I said, I'm a vibrational sound therapist. I
Speaker 2: believe energy and vibrations motivate and drive everything, So it
Speaker 2: makes perfect sense to me to think that thoughts can
Speaker 2: cause actions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just might be right on that. Who's to
Speaker 1: say that you're not considering the fact that you've had
Speaker 1: three sightings of her? Do you think that it might
Speaker 1: be connected to her on some level? I?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I begin to think I am. Now. It took
Speaker 2: me a while of studying the other encounters and listening
Speaker 2: to other people to accept that that might be a
Speaker 2: possible because I rejected it originally, But I'm thinking along
Speaker 2: those lines now too.
Speaker 1: Yes, Well, this whole dog manner, I guess I should
Speaker 1: say dog woman thing was so new to you. Of
Speaker 1: course you rejected it. Almost anyone would. It's so much
Speaker 1: more comfortable to live in your in life when everything
Speaker 1: is predictable and everything is how it's supposed to be.
Speaker 1: But if you have an experience like the ones you've had,
Speaker 1: then yes, it's only natural that you're going to cling
Speaker 1: to some normalcy, at least for a certain period of time.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's totally expected. How comfortable are you, Kim
Speaker 1: being around her? Now?
Speaker 2: Well? I would be comfortable with her, but you know
Speaker 2: she has that companion now, so he was a whole
Speaker 2: different I've got it kind of a Larry feeling about
Speaker 2: that now her, No, I actually think that she would
Speaker 2: walk up to me, but she's never had that chance.
Speaker 2: And but I once I tell a story, they'll understand
Speaker 2: what I'm what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you said, especially with him around, that's not
Speaker 1: going to happen, all right, Kim. Please? Oh I'm sorry, no,
Speaker 1: So go ahead, Well, please tell us about this latest encounter. Now,
Speaker 1: give us every last detail that comes to mind.
Speaker 2: Oh, for heaven's sakes. It was mid July. We had
Speaker 2: had a lot of rain and I had a flat tire.
Speaker 2: I was on my way to my mom's and I
Speaker 2: was had about three miles ago still to get there,
Speaker 2: and I had a flat tire, and I pulled off
Speaker 2: on a side road. This road has been under construction
Speaker 2: and still is under construction. They had taken out the
Speaker 2: entire road and it was down to gravel. They've been
Speaker 2: digging big ditches on both sides, putting in new sewers
Speaker 2: waterlines for several miles up this road, so it's just destroyed.
Speaker 2: I do not know why I pulled off and went
Speaker 2: the barriers onto that road. I initially got out of
Speaker 2: the car and it was raining. It was just a
Speaker 2: soft drizzle kind of rain, and not a serious hard rain.
Speaker 2: It just was enough to keep everything damp. And like
Speaker 2: I said, I'd been doing it for about three or
Speaker 2: four days, and the days were gray and weren't very
Speaker 2: sunny or bright. And uh, I got out of the car.
Speaker 2: I thought, I thought, you know, maybe I could blow
Speaker 2: the tire back up. Dumb me. But the tire was
Speaker 2: destroyed and I won't go into that. But anyway, so
Speaker 2: I got back in the car and I called U
Speaker 2: Triple A. I always keep Triple A. They're worth the money. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I called Triple A and they said it'd be about
Speaker 2: an hour, maybe hour and a half, but they'd come
Speaker 2: as soon as they could. And so I called my
Speaker 2: mom and she goes, I'll come get you. I said, no,
Speaker 2: I don't want to leave the car here. You just
Speaker 2: have to bring me back. I'll just sit here and
Speaker 2: play on my phone. So I'm a I'm sitting on
Speaker 2: a side road. There's a there's a house probably half
Speaker 2: a mile down another road, and there's no houses in
Speaker 2: front of me down this tore up road. So there's
Speaker 2: really nobody around. There's not much traffic. It was about
Speaker 2: one thirty two in the afternoon. It was pretty early
Speaker 2: because I was going to I was headed for my
Speaker 2: mom's and I do. I spend a lot of time
Speaker 2: with her. I help up with a lot of things.
Speaker 2: She is elderly, she's eighty six, and anyway, so I
Speaker 2: just sat there in the car and for about ten minutes,
Speaker 2: I was playing with my phone and I saw some
Speaker 2: movement over to my left and I looked up, and okay,
Speaker 2: the road ends. It's very narrow because, like I said,
Speaker 2: they've shaved off great, big, huge deep ditches on. Now
Speaker 2: I'm headed north. My car is facing north and I'm
Speaker 2: looking to the west when I say, I saw this
Speaker 2: sighting and I see, I see, I see movement in
Speaker 2: the grass. And there's like three foot tall grass because
Speaker 2: then it's been cut, you know, for months and months.
Speaker 2: And there's a tree line about thirty to forty feet
Speaker 2: back from the road, and I see movement in the grass,
Speaker 2: and I looked over and I immediately knew who I
Speaker 2: was looking at. The grass was tall, but it was sparse.
Speaker 2: You could see through it, but not clearly, and I
Speaker 2: could see her. I saw her peeking at me, and
Speaker 2: I could not believe. I could not believe. And I'm thinking,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I'm sitting here with a flat tire.
Speaker 2: What am I gonna do? She's she's down on all
Speaker 2: fours in the grass and she stands up on she
Speaker 2: stands up on her two feet, and so she's my
Speaker 2: pedal at this point, and she's she's kind she's just
Speaker 2: stand there looking at me. And my windows were down
Speaker 2: a little bit but it was raining, but they went
Speaker 2: up after this after I saw her. The windows went
Speaker 2: up and the doors got locked. But I rolled my
Speaker 2: window down and I actually said her name, and she
Speaker 2: just kind of looked at me, and she wasn't facing
Speaker 2: me straight on. She was kind of turned to her
Speaker 2: left a little bit, kind of like she was going
Speaker 2: to turn around and go back the other way maybe,
Speaker 2: or you know, just to flee. But she stood there
Speaker 2: in that position and looked at me. She went back
Speaker 2: down on all fours, took a few more steps forward,
Speaker 2: and remained down on the grass for just a little
Speaker 2: bit and then stood up again. And when she stood up,
Speaker 2: I noticed something about her that I just still cannot
Speaker 2: believe to this day. She's pregnant. She has a baby bump.
Speaker 2: She wasn't very far along. Vic and I discussed this
Speaker 2: because I said, you know, she who knows when she's
Speaker 2: going to have it. I'm figuring probably next spring because
Speaker 2: we don't know anything about him. Of course, nobody knows
Speaker 2: anything about these creatures. But she's pregnant, and she's just
Speaker 2: as cute. She's just as cute as she ever was.
Speaker 2: She's a pretty she's very pretty. She's gray and she's
Speaker 2: got kind of white tips to her. I think her
Speaker 2: hair has changed just a little bit. She seems a
Speaker 2: little darker. She's taller. She was about five foot when
Speaker 2: I saw her the first time. Now she's probably closer
Speaker 2: to six feet. And she hasn't really filled out. She's
Speaker 2: not gotten bigger. She's still fairly slender. The dog women
Speaker 2: are bottle are built just a little bit different bodily wise.
Speaker 2: There's still a big being, but they're they're more there's
Speaker 2: more slender, and they've got more of an hourglass shape
Speaker 2: in a way, I guess because they're females and they
Speaker 2: they Anyway, she's pregnant, and so I'm just sitting there
Speaker 2: looking at her, thinking, what am I going to do,
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, if she, if she, she would have
Speaker 2: had to come down into a very big ditch and
Speaker 2: cross the ditch. But you know these guys, they could jump,
Speaker 2: so she could have gotten over there if she wanted to.
Speaker 2: But she didn't. She just stood there and looked at me.
Speaker 2: She uh stood there and looked at me for quite
Speaker 2: a while. It's probably five minutes. This whole thing, this
Speaker 2: whole encounter. I think this is an event, not an encounter. Actually,
Speaker 2: this is pretty special for me what I had happened
Speaker 2: this time. But she she glanced back over her shoulder,
Speaker 2: and she has she has a male with her, and
Speaker 2: he's standing behind a tree. There's a limb in front
Speaker 2: of him. His head's up over the limb. He was probably, yeah,
Speaker 2: i'd say he was a good nine ten feet tall.
Speaker 2: Maybe I know he was at least eight foot tall.
Speaker 2: I've not been back to measure. If I can get
Speaker 2: somebody to go with me, I might go back. But
Speaker 2: until then I'll have to wait. But he was looking
Speaker 2: over the limb, over the limb of the tree, through
Speaker 2: the leaves. I could not see him very very clearly,
Speaker 2: because he was intending to hide himself. He was not
Speaker 2: making himself known. But I saw him and he was male,
Speaker 2: and he was standing up behind the tree, and she
Speaker 2: had made a step towards me to come down, to
Speaker 2: come closer. But he made some kind of noise. He
Speaker 2: made a grumble. He didn't really growl. It wasn't loud,
Speaker 2: it wasn't mean. He just grumbled and she was like, oh, okay. Well,
Speaker 2: so she gets back down on all fours and she
Speaker 2: trying to keep an eye on him because now he's
Speaker 2: got me worried because I'm ready to leave go. I'm
Speaker 2: going to drive off on my hub if I have to.
Speaker 2: He did not come out. He didn't a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: he disappeared. He went back into the woods behind him,
Speaker 2: and she followed him, and she went back into the woods,
Speaker 2: and that was the end of my actually seeing her.
Speaker 2: So I'm waiting on Triple A. Triple A guy shows up,
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking what am I going to do if
Speaker 2: these creatures come back out of the woods. So I'm
Speaker 2: looking up there at the woods and watching them, and
Speaker 2: he's like, is something wrong? He says, what are you
Speaker 2: looking at? I said, oh, there's there was some deer
Speaker 2: up there earlier that I was looking at, and I
Speaker 2: was just seeing if they were going to come back out,
Speaker 2: because I was thinking, what was I going to do
Speaker 2: with him if they came out, and where was I
Speaker 2: going to go? What were we going to do? They
Speaker 2: never did, They never stepped back out. They were gone.
Speaker 2: They were gone, but they were in the same They
Speaker 2: were in a tree line in front of the field
Speaker 2: that I saw the group back when I first saw
Speaker 2: her the first time, and then I saw the group
Speaker 2: a few weeks later. They were still in the exact
Speaker 2: same area. So they're staying right there. Lots of deer,
Speaker 2: I'm close to the Kansas River, lots of woods. You
Speaker 2: can travel from one end of we're actual where it
Speaker 2: actually becomes more rule. You can travel from one end
Speaker 2: clear to my house if they wanted to, or clear
Speaker 2: up towards Lawrence or Topeka. There's woods everywhere. So they're
Speaker 2: just here and I got to see her. But yeah,
Speaker 2: she had a little baby bump. I don't know. I
Speaker 2: don't know what to compare it to. She looks like
Speaker 2: maybe a seven month pregnant female human is what I
Speaker 2: would compare her baby bump to. But it was pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty cool doesn't do it any justice. That's amazing.
Speaker 1: When you told me about that, that blew me away.
Speaker 1: I think you've got to be kidding me.
Speaker 2: Tickled, that's why she would That's why I think she
Speaker 2: was going around on all fours as much as she was,
Speaker 2: because she was moving around on all fours more than
Speaker 2: she didn't actually walk around up upright. Her movement was
Speaker 2: always when she got down on all fours, a little
Speaker 2: bit of movement I got out of her. So I'm
Speaker 2: thinking maybe it's more comfortable, or maybe it's protective. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I'm just making this putting it fairies out there.
Speaker 1: Well, when you consider the fact that she's walking around
Speaker 1: in a digitigrade fashion on her toes if she's pregnant,
Speaker 1: I can only imagine that it's got to be a
Speaker 1: lot more comfortable to ambulate on all fours than up
Speaker 1: on two legs. So that makes sense. That does fit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that does.
Speaker 1: Let's say that the dog man wouldn't have been escorting
Speaker 1: her that day. Are you concerned at all that she
Speaker 1: might have been a little more aggressive than normal considering
Speaker 1: the fact that she is pregnant.
Speaker 2: If I had approached her, maybe she could have been.
Speaker 2: But if she had approached me, I don't think so.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. She didn't even bear her teeth
Speaker 2: at me this time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's really getting to know you. You're almost becoming
Speaker 1: old hat for her.
Speaker 2: It sounds like, oh, for heaven's sakes, well, should I
Speaker 2: tell about the my mom's house thing?
Speaker 1: Please do?
Speaker 2: About two days after this happened. Of course I didn't
Speaker 2: find out until like a whole week later, But two
Speaker 2: days after I saw these guys. It was about ten
Speaker 2: thirty eleven o'clock at night. My mother lives by herself,
Speaker 2: and she has an Earth contact home. And the second
Speaker 2: story is above ground, and the bottom story is below
Speaker 2: ground and surrounded on three sides, but the roof comes
Speaker 2: down level with the ground. You can you can go
Speaker 2: around back of the house and hop up on the
Speaker 2: roof and walk up to the peace where there are skylights. Well,
Speaker 2: mom thought she heard somebody at the back door that night,
Speaker 2: two nights later, and she called my brother in law
Speaker 2: and he came up. But he can't get up there
Speaker 2: quick enough, and she could have. She told me, she
Speaker 2: said she swore somebody was on the roof and had
Speaker 2: knocked on the skylight. And when my when my brother
Speaker 2: in law got there, of course he didn't find anything.
Speaker 2: But I have told her since to not take the
Speaker 2: dog out after dark, to make sure that she takes
Speaker 2: her out, you know, in the daylight. And she hasn't
Speaker 2: heard anything since. But she tells me this week later,
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh no, because I went after
Speaker 2: I got my tire fixed, after they got done with
Speaker 2: my tire, I went to her house and I got
Speaker 2: there about three three point thirty four. I didn't stay
Speaker 2: very long, and so two days later they may have
Speaker 2: visited her. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Possibility, Yeah, sounds like they just might have. Before we
Speaker 1: move on. I just want to thank Liz l. Eclair
Speaker 1: for her donation. I really appreciate it. Liz, thank you
Speaker 1: so much. Kim, is that area where you've been seeing
Speaker 1: her in those other dog men is it mostly wooded?
Speaker 1: You said there's a lot of trees around there, But
Speaker 1: is the area mostly wooded and it just has a
Speaker 1: little bit in the way of open areas or are
Speaker 1: there actually more open areas than forest cover.
Speaker 2: There's more woodland all together. I mean, we've got a
Speaker 2: few farms sprinkled out there, and of course there's farmland.
Speaker 2: It's none of it's planted anymore, and none of it's
Speaker 2: grazed anymore. But there were farms. But there's a lot
Speaker 2: of woods. And there's more woods than I ever would
Speaker 2: have thought about, because after I saw her the first time,
Speaker 2: it's when I actually started paying attention to, you know,
Speaker 2: the woods. Actually there was another time. I think I
Speaker 2: mentioned it to you in a like I said, you
Speaker 2: a message, uh message, a messenger. After I saw that
Speaker 2: group a couple of weeks later, I could have swore
Speaker 2: I saw a mail or a big uh dog man
Speaker 2: crossed the road in front of the car in front
Speaker 2: of me, and they slammed on their brakes and it
Speaker 2: went down into the ditch where the creek was. The
Speaker 2: car slammed on its brakes. I was far enough behind
Speaker 2: it I thought that's what I saw. Since my eyesight's
Speaker 2: not the best, it could have been something else, But
Speaker 2: it looked like by It looked like one that was
Speaker 2: up upright walking and it ran. You know. They they
Speaker 2: they're like a streak of lightning. So there's a lot
Speaker 2: of woods. There's a lot of creeks, lots of woods.
Speaker 2: Almost all of it connects in one way or another.
Speaker 2: You can almost you could travel in tree cover for
Speaker 2: for miles and miles without you know, having having to
Speaker 2: go out into a field.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like the perfect habitat for them. No one,
Speaker 1: they hang out there in big numbers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just real curious why they're hanging around, or
Speaker 2: maybe maybe they went away and came back. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's their mo to move around a
Speaker 1: huge home range. I don't think they're in that area
Speaker 1: all the time. Consequently, I think they just circle back
Speaker 1: to it. But if it's that big of an area,
Speaker 1: with that much in the way of resources, they probably
Speaker 1: do spend a pretty good amount of time there. So Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's no wonder you've seen them so many times considering
Speaker 1: how many times you have to drive through there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I won't be surprised the next time I
Speaker 2: see her at all.
Speaker 1: Well, like I told you before, I definitely hope that's
Speaker 1: not your last time seeing her. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: going to be. I really don't. Do you have any
Speaker 1: concerns for the safety of the people who live around
Speaker 1: that area where you've been seeing.
Speaker 2: Them, Yes, we talked about that before, because the first
Speaker 2: time I saw her, I just told you I'd bet
Speaker 2: that she wasn't by herself. She was such a young female,
Speaker 2: made no sense for her is to be out wandering around. Well,
Speaker 2: now since I've heard about Sasha, I mean, obviously there
Speaker 2: are some rogue females, but now that I've seen her
Speaker 2: with the big guy, yeah, he worries me. She does not.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know she can be aggressive there. They
Speaker 2: all can, but he's the one that worries me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got good cause to be concerned about him.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure he's going to be ridiculously protective
Speaker 1: of her. It's not like she would need his protection
Speaker 1: from any people coming into that area. But I'm sure
Speaker 1: he doesn't see it that way. He takes this job
Speaker 1: pretty seriously.
Speaker 2: I'm sure I think she can hold her own. She's
Speaker 2: got the claws and the teeth. She's you know, she's
Speaker 2: still got the weapons. I mean, she's smaller and more slender,
Speaker 2: but she definitely could hold her own.
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't doubt that at all. I don't from
Speaker 1: what I understand. Well, I guess we've already covered that.
Speaker 1: We don't need to hash that out anymore. How far
Speaker 1: does your mother live, though, I'm wondering from that area
Speaker 1: where you've been seeing him bring they have the dog
Speaker 1: men three miles three miles Okay, so yeah, that's a hop,
Speaker 1: skip and a jump as far as dog meing go.
Speaker 2: Well, heck y, it's about a fifteen minute walk for them,
Speaker 2: I'm sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if not less with those long legs they have.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's just how it goes. If they're that
Speaker 1: close to where she lives. I'm wondering though, Also, you
Speaker 1: don't consider, from what I remember about our conversation, you
Speaker 1: don't consider that most recent sighting and encounter. You consider
Speaker 1: it to be an event.
Speaker 2: How so, Yeah, because she was pregnant. Who when am
Speaker 2: I ever going to see that again? The chances of
Speaker 2: me just seeing her and then and then it just
Speaker 2: narrows down to me seeing her in that condition. Oh
Speaker 2: my gosh. Yeah, I'm elevating it. It's it wasn't It
Speaker 2: wasn't an encounter. It was an event.
Speaker 1: That's a good way to sum it up. I see
Speaker 1: what you mean. Now, that does make sense. Now, it's
Speaker 1: clear that you definitely enjoy seeing her, But do you
Speaker 1: think she enjoys seeing you?
Speaker 2: Well, she's the one that came out of the woods.
Speaker 2: She wasn't there when I pulled up, she approached me.
Speaker 2: I wasn't looking. I wasn't even looking for her. She
Speaker 2: stepped out, but she wasn't being real pronounced about it.
Speaker 2: She's being kind of stealthy, I think. But once she
Speaker 2: realized that I knew she was there, that's when she
Speaker 2: showed herself.
Speaker 1: Well, as you know. I mean, dog men have walked
Speaker 1: out of forests before and approached eye witnesses, not because
Speaker 1: they actually enjoyed seeing the people. They wanted to get
Speaker 1: a response out of them. So I was just trying
Speaker 1: to get some clarity on if you thought that might
Speaker 1: be more of the case with her, or if she
Speaker 1: actually was showing herself to you because she actually enjoyed
Speaker 1: interacting with you.
Speaker 2: I don't think there was any maliceon. She didn't make
Speaker 2: any kind of aggressive movement towards me, and he didn't either.
Speaker 2: She wasn't giving off an air of aggression or concern
Speaker 2: because he wasn't reacting. If I was her enemy, if
Speaker 2: she looked at me as her enemy, he would have reacted.
Speaker 1: Oh, no doubt about that. And I'm pretty sure he
Speaker 1: realized that you weren't any threat to either one of them.
Speaker 1: But of course he's still.
Speaker 2: Going to keep on you. He's got the upper hand.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I mean compared to me. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: don't have nothing to worry about. Shoot, yeah, I'd say.
Speaker 2: I didn't even have my PUPI with me that day,
Speaker 2: So if he wouldn't have had any worries at all.
Speaker 1: No, even if you had that, and I'm sure he
Speaker 1: knew that I am. Well, let's dive into some of
Speaker 1: these questions now. The first one is from Tisha's Watch,
Speaker 1: and Titia wants to know, Kim if you've been able
Speaker 1: to get any pictures of himber.
Speaker 2: No, no, no. I the first time I saw Ember,
Speaker 2: I was too stunned to take pictures of her. This
Speaker 2: time I didn't because I know better. I'm too afraid.
Speaker 2: I was too afraid of scaring her away. I would
Speaker 2: love to have pictures ever, because can you imagine what
Speaker 2: it's worth? But I just didn't want to scare her
Speaker 2: off because they know what cameras are.
Speaker 1: Yes they do. It's good you know that if you
Speaker 1: want to have future experiences with her, pulling out a camera,
Speaker 1: that's the worst thing you could have done, because you
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have ever seen her again. This next one's
Speaker 1: from al Kirk and now wants to know, Kim, are
Speaker 1: you positive a personal encounter with Ember would not be
Speaker 1: without its danger?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, there's always potential for danger. I mean that's
Speaker 2: a given with these guys. You can't you know, you
Speaker 2: can't be that foolish about it and believe me, I
Speaker 2: was ready to drive off on my rim. I wouldn't
Speaker 2: got very far. They would have caught up with me,
Speaker 2: but I was ready to leave. I even started the
Speaker 2: car just in case I had to pull up, but
Speaker 2: I didn't. I just stayed there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good move covering your basis like that.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you did that. This next one is from
Speaker 1: Bigfoot Mama. Well that's a great name. She wants to know, Kim,
Speaker 1: what state are you in?
Speaker 2: Kansas?
Speaker 1: You shared that already, but she asked the question, so
Speaker 1: I wanted to put that out there, ask her a question. Nonetheless.
Speaker 1: This next one is from truth Iris and truth Iris
Speaker 1: wants to know, what does your mom think?
Speaker 2: I'm not sure she believes me. I'm kind of out
Speaker 2: there anyway, won't We won't go into that, but I'm
Speaker 2: always talking to her about everything and anything. I don't
Speaker 2: know if she believes me or not. I mean, she
Speaker 2: just kind of looks at me. I'm not sure she
Speaker 2: hasn't had an accounter as a child or a young
Speaker 2: person herself, but she really doesn't. I think she tries
Speaker 2: to change the subject is basically what she knows well.
Speaker 1: She might try to change the subject for one of
Speaker 1: two reasons. She might be uncomfortable thinking about the possibility
Speaker 1: that what you're telling her is true. What she should know,
Speaker 1: You're not going to lie to her, But that might
Speaker 1: be the reason behind her trying to switch the channel,
Speaker 1: so to speak. Also, too, maybe she's had experiences. Also
Speaker 1: you talked about the one that happened late that night,
Speaker 1: but maybe more has gone on around her home that
Speaker 1: you don't know about. It's hard to.
Speaker 2: Say, yeah, possibility.
Speaker 1: You never know, you really don't. This next question is
Speaker 1: from Alicia Losier, and she wants to know do you
Speaker 1: think she remembered you from the last time you saw
Speaker 1: each other?
Speaker 2: Yes, I honestly do I think I do. I think
Speaker 2: she remembers me, And besides, in my heart, that's what
Speaker 2: I like what I'd like to think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet she does. I bet good money on that.
Speaker 1: Bang Bang wants to know, Kim, do you think these
Speaker 1: are evil? Dog men.
Speaker 2: Do I think they're youthful evil? Oh? Evil? No, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't have any reason to think that they're evil.
Speaker 2: Of course, I've always been lary of uh, you know,
Speaker 2: I vict knows I live, I have woods behind me.
Speaker 2: I've always been lary of one of them is showing
Speaker 2: up here. But I haven't seen anything to indicate any
Speaker 2: kind of evil. I didn't even feel any mouse or
Speaker 2: evil from them.
Speaker 1: And if they were evil, they've had their chances to
Speaker 1: do you in and do other things too.
Speaker 2: They had well, they could have had. They could have
Speaker 2: had me and the Triple A guy.
Speaker 1: They sure could have. That's right, it's good you understand that.
Speaker 1: This next one is from Bang Bang and they want
Speaker 1: to know, Kim, if you found any kind of nest.
Speaker 2: Nest. No, no, I haven't been. I haven't been rurally
Speaker 2: cross country to find anything like that. But that would
Speaker 2: be so cool.
Speaker 1: Yes, it would be. There was another question related to that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna scroll and see if I can't find it,
Speaker 1: where a guest asked a question about a gift. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there we go. It's from Aerial Dark Star and they
Speaker 1: want to know if you found a seashell. She might
Speaker 1: have left for you.
Speaker 2: No, I haven't looked, and I don't. I don't know
Speaker 2: where they would leave something like that, because would they
Speaker 2: be coming here to my home? Maybe at my mom's house,
Speaker 2: you know, that would probably be the more likely place
Speaker 2: that they would leave something. We have what we did
Speaker 2: have some strange evergreens show up her backyard back by
Speaker 2: the far fence a couple months ago, and we couldn't
Speaker 2: forget where they had come from because there wasn't a
Speaker 2: tree like that around. I had had forgot all about that,
Speaker 2: but everybody was like, where in the hell could of
Speaker 2: those come from? So maybe that was my nest. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I had just remembered that.
Speaker 1: Huh. Yeah, they might have been behind that. It's hard
Speaker 1: to say. Christina easter Day has got a good question.
Speaker 1: She wants to know, do you think Himber knows you're
Speaker 1: a safe place for her, like when deer come in
Speaker 1: our field during hunting season.
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, I'm a high believer in vibration
Speaker 2: and energy and thought patterns and telepathy and mind speak,
Speaker 2: which I've not experienced that I know of from these guys.
Speaker 2: So if anybody's going to ask that, I'm answering that now,
Speaker 2: But I totally think that she just knows. I mean,
Speaker 2: these guys are so more advanced in such a different
Speaker 2: way than we are. I really think she knows. I
Speaker 2: mean they it's just like, okay, my dogs. If my
Speaker 2: dogs like a person, I know that's a good person.
Speaker 2: So why wouldn't these guys have an even higher version
Speaker 2: of that judgment than what a normal canine does. So
Speaker 2: they should be able to tell. And I solely believe
Speaker 2: they can tell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just might be able to Who knows what
Speaker 1: the extent of their abilities are, so yeah, that's definitely
Speaker 1: a possibility. It looks like the next one is from
Speaker 1: The Wicked sixty nine and they want to know how
Speaker 1: smart you think dog men are.
Speaker 2: I sort of kind of already touched on that. I
Speaker 2: think they're highly intelligent. I think they're intelligence is on
Speaker 2: a different level than ours and in a different way
Speaker 2: because they are in nature and they have all of
Speaker 2: the abilities and to survive in nature. So I think
Speaker 2: that they are highly intelligent in that manner. Course, of course,
Speaker 2: they live around us. We don't see them. They skirt us,
Speaker 2: you know, they're always out there looking at us. We
Speaker 2: don't see them, So that's a level of intelligence that
Speaker 2: you have to admire right there, just in itself, just
Speaker 2: by itself.
Speaker 1: I agree, that's a good way to sum it up.
Speaker 1: It looks like be kind is the next question. She
Speaker 1: wants to know, Kim, have you ever noticed a shift
Speaker 1: in barometric pressure or odd sense before? I think she
Speaker 1: wants to know if you've had an odd sense before
Speaker 1: you knave of your encounters.
Speaker 2: No. I am highly tuned into barometric pressure because it
Speaker 2: causes me migraine, headaches, and other illness type things. So no,
Speaker 2: I haven't encountered that with these guys.
Speaker 1: Know. Well, yeah, sounds like you are sensitive to that. Then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's an app on There's an android app. It's
Speaker 2: called weather X and that's what I was going to
Speaker 2: tell Jared about. It tells you the barometri pressure every day.
Speaker 1: Yep, so you would know, you definitely would.
Speaker 2: I keep an eye on it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds like you do. The truth wants to
Speaker 1: know if you're planning a baby shower for him or
Speaker 1: maybe a special meal.
Speaker 2: You know, Uh, I don't know. That might be a
Speaker 2: cool idea to leave something down there where I saw
Speaker 2: an that's a good idea, not a baby shower, But
Speaker 2: I might leave something special. But like I said, I
Speaker 2: need to get somebody to go back with me and
Speaker 2: to get my son convinced that this is a real thing,
Speaker 2: is a work of art in progress.
Speaker 1: Is he close to coming around or is he crossing
Speaker 1: his arms and saying no one.
Speaker 2: Well, he's close to coming around. He's got a lot
Speaker 2: of odd, unusual, diverse, open minded things of his own,
Speaker 2: So I think I've got him convinced. I just wish
Speaker 2: somebody would be with me when I saw I do.
Speaker 2: I wish, I wish I had an eyewitness.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure it's not lost on you that if
Speaker 1: you have someone else with you, the odds of you
Speaker 1: actually seeing her again are pretty slight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I have her trust, You're right, and then
Speaker 2: I may never see her again because then she might
Speaker 2: not trust me anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. You never know. Goes to UFO wants
Speaker 1: to know, what do you think Imbert thinks about you?
Speaker 2: No, I never thought about that. I am another female,
Speaker 2: and I'm an older female, so she might look at
Speaker 2: me as more of a mother type because I know
Speaker 2: she knows I'm I'm a senior citizen because I am,
Speaker 2: and I know they're smart enough so she might that
Speaker 2: maybe why she trusts me because she knows I'm an
Speaker 2: older female, And I think that's maybe maybe that's why
Speaker 2: she's attracted to me.
Speaker 1: That might be, It just might be. See who was
Speaker 1: to have this question? Yeah? There it is a great
Speaker 1: question from Titia's watch. She wants to know, do you
Speaker 1: think she might come back to show you her young Well?
Speaker 2: I can only hope, can I. Vick and I talked
Speaker 2: about that, And when I first saw her the first time,
Speaker 2: somebody asked me that do I did I think that
Speaker 2: Ember would show me her pups? And I would? I
Speaker 2: would love to see her pups, and I would. I would.
Speaker 2: I'm putting that out mentally. So maybe she'll catch it.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I will get the chance to see them.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be something?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sure would be. You never know, you might
Speaker 1: see the baby. It's hard to say. I've got another
Speaker 1: great question for you from truth Iris. There we go.
Speaker 1: They want to know we're able to distinguish around her
Speaker 1: vertical pupil, that.
Speaker 2: Her pupils are round. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever heard an eyewitness, a credible eyewitness,
Speaker 1: ever say that they saw elliptical pupils like a snake.
Speaker 1: It's always been round pupils, so that fits.
Speaker 2: Well, she's not reptilian, she's the mammal.
Speaker 1: Well, neither are cats house cats, but yeah, they have
Speaker 1: elliptical pupils as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, but they're also cats. These are canine.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's true. Well, foxes have elliptical pupils.
Speaker 2: Now they aren't. Fox is a whole different branch. They're
Speaker 2: not descended from wolves. They're around. If they change, I'll
Speaker 2: let you know.
Speaker 1: Hopefully it won't change. Hopefully it's going to just stay
Speaker 1: the same. Bang Bang wants to know if Imber has
Speaker 1: ever smiled at you.
Speaker 2: The first time I saw her, she smiled at me,
Speaker 2: And when she did that, that's what I had to
Speaker 2: leave because I didn't know how to take it. She
Speaker 2: had this big old air of the teeth grin.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you did not to take that. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: hard to process when you sell those big shirt teeth
Speaker 1: Andras Curizalez is the next question. He wants to know
Speaker 1: the meal you saw with her. Have you seen him
Speaker 1: before or is he new for you to see.
Speaker 2: He's new for me to see, but he could have
Speaker 2: been in the group that I saw crossing the field.
Speaker 2: That day. He could have been one of those. But
Speaker 2: as far as I'm concerned, he's he's something new. He's
Speaker 2: a big guy call black. It's scary. As scary as
Speaker 2: I'll get out. I do have a I have a
Speaker 2: much more ingrained fear of them now because of his appearance,
Speaker 2: not because of any action. But I've always been leary
Speaker 2: of them, But now that I've seen him, you know she,
Speaker 2: but he didn't know anything. So he's in us. He's
Speaker 2: still innocent, innocent, and she'll proven guilty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure he does look like he's playing for keeps.
Speaker 1: I don't doubt that at all. Christine the Easter Day
Speaker 1: wants to know if you've named that Maile dog Mayet.
Speaker 2: No, No, I just call him big guy.
Speaker 1: Well that's an accurate name for him. It's fitting. It
Speaker 1: looks like Joel Marlin wants to know. Do you think
Speaker 1: maybe she's aware you share about her with other humans,
Speaker 1: like maybe she wants you to educate fellow humans.
Speaker 2: Actually, that's a very unique thought, right there. I hadn't
Speaker 2: thought about that, So I'm going to say no, I
Speaker 2: hadn't thought that, But that was really cool for you
Speaker 2: to come up with that.
Speaker 1: That is a good question. It definitely is. Let's see
Speaker 1: looking for another good one. You've got one here from
Speaker 1: be kind. She wants to know, Kim. Are you a
Speaker 1: sensitive their voyant pick up on paranormal activities RH negative?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not RH negative, but I do pick up
Speaker 2: on paranormal I have a history of paranormal which I
Speaker 2: haven't opened up to Vic about. And I am an EmPATH.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I've got a sneaking suspicion that plays into
Speaker 1: all these encounters you've had.
Speaker 2: And l.
Speaker 1: Wants you to know that he would definitely or she
Speaker 1: would definitely go with you if they could laugh out loud.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1: Be careful what you wish for. You might come to
Speaker 1: regret that Kurt Schlichting wants to know Kim. Have you
Speaker 1: tried mine speak?
Speaker 2: Have I tried mine speak? I have to admit that
Speaker 2: while I was sitting there looking at her, I called
Speaker 2: her name once and I don't know how to explain it.
Speaker 2: I can't think of a way to explain this. But
Speaker 2: I was sitting there, uh, thinking things like are you
Speaker 2: gonna come any closer? You know? What do you what
Speaker 2: do you want? Why are you here? And and you
Speaker 2: know you're you're you're beautiful, and I'm happy for you,
Speaker 2: those kind of things. But I was just thinking those things.
Speaker 2: I wasn't really aiming them at her, trying to converse
Speaker 2: with her. And of course I hadn't seen him yet.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have been that frivalent if I had seen
Speaker 2: him when I since I saw him, my guy, a
Speaker 2: little bit terrified.
Speaker 1: I can understand what you did. Yeah, definitely. I can't
Speaker 1: remem if I asked you this question or not from
Speaker 1: al Kirk, but he wanted to know, do you think
Speaker 1: you might be driving close to a den site?
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, I do. I think I'm real close to
Speaker 2: a den site because of the five I saw that
Speaker 2: that family group, and then these two have shown up,
Speaker 2: and they're obviously a family themselves, so there's got to
Speaker 2: be ad in sight somewhere. They even if they travel
Speaker 2: like Vic and everybody that knows these guys better than
Speaker 2: I do, say they travel around and make circuits. Well,
Speaker 2: they've got to have normal, regular places that they stop off.
Speaker 2: So I would say there's a dinner around there somewhere,
Speaker 2: and I'm probably driving right by it.
Speaker 1: It just might be you never know, wouldn't that be
Speaker 1: something yeah, and this is touching on a comment they
Speaker 1: made just a bit ago Llo wants you to know, Kim,
Speaker 1: I think after Ember has her baby, she's going to
Speaker 1: show it off to you. Laugh out loud. Who knows.
Speaker 1: Maybe they want to adopt you into their klan, laugh
Speaker 1: out loud.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, Okay, I'd love to see the baby, but
Speaker 2: I don't want to be adopted.
Speaker 1: You don't want to be adopted into their clan. That
Speaker 1: wouldn't be a good scene.
Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't last to day. Probably, I'd
Speaker 2: probably wind up as lunch.
Speaker 1: Hopefully wouldn't come to that. I don't think it would.
Speaker 1: I don't think it would because, like I've said before,
Speaker 1: these guys don't have any trouble feeding themselves at all.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they feed themselves like it's going
Speaker 1: out of style. If you think mountain lions are deer
Speaker 1: killing machines, these guys would make them look like rank
Speaker 1: amateurs in my opinion.
Speaker 2: Yeah. As stealthy as they are, I don't know why
Speaker 2: they can't just walk up and swipe at the deer
Speaker 2: and get them, because they sure are stealthy. And that
Speaker 2: big guy, he didn't make a noise I didn't even
Speaker 2: know he turned around and left the tree until she
Speaker 2: just she walked under the limb, and I was looking
Speaker 2: in the looking in that area. He was gone. He
Speaker 2: had just disappeared, just as silent as he had shown up.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it seemed like he was gone, but I'll
Speaker 1: bet you give money he was still there watching you.
Speaker 2: Well, he wanted her to go. He was done because
Speaker 2: she started to move towards me. He made a noise.
Speaker 2: She turned around, looked at him, and then that was it.
Speaker 2: She was ready to go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet he couldn't get her out of there
Speaker 1: soon enough. I'll bet you're rained. Bang Bang wants to know.
Speaker 1: Do you think she goes to your mom's house, which
Speaker 1: you touched on that at the start of the show.
Speaker 2: I've never had any indication of it until now because
Speaker 2: every time I well, let's let me think about that.
Speaker 2: The first time I saw her, I was going to Mom's.
Speaker 2: The second time I saw the family group, I was
Speaker 2: headed home from Moms. When I saw the one crossed
Speaker 2: the road, I was going home from Moms. This is
Speaker 2: only the second time I've been headed for my mother's.
Speaker 2: And she did have that noise that night, which we know,
Speaker 2: we don't know what it was. I'm kind of hoping not,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I think it's a good possibility because that's
Speaker 2: where I was headed the other day, so they know
Speaker 2: they know that's where I go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll beg good money. They have followed you there,
Speaker 1: and if that's the case, if they know where she lives,
Speaker 1: then yeah, it would make sense. They probably have Peter
Speaker 1: some visits. So I'll bet you're right on that. Alicia
Speaker 1: Lozier wants to know any guests, based on size perspective,
Speaker 1: how many buns were in the oven.
Speaker 2: Like I said, she was about the size of a
Speaker 2: seventh month human, and not being able to determine how
Speaker 2: far along she actually is, I can't really make an
Speaker 2: educated statement about that. But the few encounters I've heard,
Speaker 2: not only on Vick's show but on some others, most
Speaker 2: of the time there's at least two that are together.
Speaker 2: There's usually two. I've heard of as many as four,
Speaker 2: but it's usually two. And most of the time dogs
Speaker 2: have regular dogs have. If you think about it, most
Speaker 2: of the litters are even. They're either two, four, six, eight.
Speaker 2: I know they're odd numbers, but they're not usually even.
Speaker 2: So I'm figuring it's two, just because just out of
Speaker 2: you know, just the few things I've heard, well.
Speaker 1: That would make sense. You're having more than two dog
Speaker 1: Me and puffs. That's really got to be awfully draining
Speaker 1: on a female. So I doubt that would ever happen.
Speaker 1: But you never know, humans have more than two sometimes,
Speaker 1: So who's to say? It looks like Beth Ferguson has
Speaker 1: a comment for you. She's saying in her comment, I'm
Speaker 1: an EmPATH in medium. I had a werewolf slash dog
Speaker 1: me in mind speak with me. I could always feel
Speaker 1: as energy. How did the energy feel for you when
Speaker 1: you had your encounters?
Speaker 2: She's right, I could feel her energy. That is how
Speaker 2: I actually noticed her. It was more like I felt
Speaker 2: something and I and I saw the movement, and she
Speaker 2: was hiding from me when I first found her, saw her,
Speaker 2: noticed her, but I felt her. Yeah, I felt it. Well, okay, well,
Speaker 2: these guys, you know how everything does, Everything goes still, quiet, dead,
Speaker 2: That's kind of what it was. So, but but I
Speaker 2: felt that there was something there. I felt her. I
Speaker 2: didn't know it was her till I visually laid eyes
Speaker 2: on her, but I felt her presence. I knew there
Speaker 2: was something there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you must be a sensitive then. Andras Currizalez wants
Speaker 1: to know, do you think if Imber does bring the
Speaker 1: young one around, that the Meal will scout you first?
Speaker 2: Hmm. He didn't show much interest in me. I think
Speaker 2: he was just uh, I think he was just humoring her.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, like we've already established, he knows you're not
Speaker 1: a threat. He wanted to just maybe evaluate you further,
Speaker 1: but he knows, as intelligent as they are, he knows
Speaker 1: that you're not a threat. Kurt Schlichting has a question
Speaker 1: about that Meal. He wants to know if you can
Speaker 1: describe him in the other details about him that you
Speaker 1: can tell us about as far as his appearance.
Speaker 2: Well, he was behind a tree, so there's a quite
Speaker 2: a bit of him. I couldn't see. I could see.
Speaker 2: I saw his genitalia, his tummy. I could see one.
Speaker 2: He had one. Let's see, it would have been at
Speaker 2: his left arm. He had his left arm wrapped around
Speaker 2: the tree. I could see his left left claws, his
Speaker 2: hand and claws. The other one was up on the
Speaker 2: limb he was holding onto the tree. He had one
Speaker 2: arm wrapped around the trunk of the tree and the
Speaker 2: other arm was up on the limb, but I couldn't
Speaker 2: see the one that was on the limb because it
Speaker 2: was like along the limb behind it. He was really,
Speaker 2: really really covered in foliage. It's like he was peeking
Speaker 2: over the limb of the tree and he was framed
Speaker 2: in leaves. I could. I could see his face. I could,
Speaker 2: and I saw his midsection. I couldn't really see a
Speaker 2: whole lot of his legs. I saw his knees, but
Speaker 2: I couldn't see the the bottom the way he was
Speaker 2: standing at where he was standing, because it was it
Speaker 2: was kind of downhill and he was behind shrubbery. He
Speaker 2: was very very well concealed, so I can't give him
Speaker 2: any details about him. He had a white his head
Speaker 2: was wide. He had a white head. He didn't have
Speaker 2: that long, slender snout like some of them knew. His
Speaker 2: was more of a wide I like, what kind of
Speaker 2: kind of dug And I can hear him too, like a.
Speaker 1: Chow when they want to conceal themselves or masters it
Speaker 1: doing it. So it's no wonder you weren't able to
Speaker 1: get a good luck.
Speaker 2: No, he wasn't. He wasn't. He wasn't showing him stuff
Speaker 2: to me. He was keeping an eye on Ember and
Speaker 2: making sure she was.
Speaker 1: Safe and following her around. I'm sure that's pretty much
Speaker 1: all he does us now. Bang Bang made a donation,
Speaker 1: and I want to thank you so much for doing that,
Speaker 1: for supporting the show. I really appreciate it. And I've
Speaker 1: got another question for you from be Kind. They want
Speaker 1: to know, Kim, can you explain the difference between barometric
Speaker 1: pressure shift and sensing energy shift.
Speaker 2: Barometric pressure that causes me to have pressure in my head.
Speaker 2: Energy shift is more a whole body feeling.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've experienced both so many times that at
Speaker 1: the snap of a finger you know which one is which.
Speaker 2: Well, I know how to I know how to ward.
Speaker 2: I know how to ward against energy. So being an EmPATH,
Speaker 2: you have to learn how to ward in order to
Speaker 2: protect yourself or you get a lot of you. You
Speaker 2: you absorb other people's emotions and you just kind of
Speaker 2: get on a roller coaster and it can make you
Speaker 2: just a little bit crazy. But yeah, it's totally different.
Speaker 2: It's the barometric pressure and actual energy. It's just totally different.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to take your word on that, because yeah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know. I wouldn't now that you know that
Speaker 1: she's pregnant. It's obviously you spend a lot of time
Speaker 1: going up and down those roads in that area. How
Speaker 1: much more often are you going to be in that
Speaker 1: area to try and keep an eye out and maybe
Speaker 1: keep some form of tabs on iimber.
Speaker 2: I think probably what I'll do is there are several
Speaker 2: roads that I can still get to where I need
Speaker 2: to go that kind of go around different areas there
Speaker 2: without going out of the area. That's probably what the
Speaker 2: tack I'm going to take is, I'll just take a
Speaker 2: different road each time I go. I have no reason
Speaker 2: to go that way anymore than I already do unless
Speaker 2: I was just looking for her, And I really don't
Speaker 2: have that frivolity or time to just be out looking
Speaker 2: for Ember. But I definitely I have opera glasses and
Speaker 2: I have my binoculars both in the car, so I
Speaker 2: definitely am going to start looking for them. Every little movement,
Speaker 2: everything that's just out of ordinary or a CE I'll
Speaker 2: be checking out.
Speaker 1: Well, you're obviously on high alert before I'm sure it's
Speaker 1: going to be times ten now, so that's understandable. Truth
Speaker 1: IRIS has the last question of the night. They want
Speaker 1: to know, do you believe they're supernatural, they'reo a supernatural
Speaker 1: order or strictly flesh and blood.
Speaker 2: I think they're flesh and blood, but they have the
Speaker 2: ability to go between dimensions, That's what I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just might be right to a lot of
Speaker 1: people believe that, So you never know, that just might
Speaker 1: be the keys. Well, before we get out, if you're
Speaker 1: a Kim, we have any closing comments you'd like to
Speaker 1: put out there for us, Just.
Speaker 2: Keep your head on a swivel. You just never know
Speaker 2: what you're going to see or who you're going to
Speaker 2: run into, or what you're going to encounter and what
Speaker 2: kind of relationship it'll run into.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's always really good advice. Well, like I told
Speaker 1: you before, Kim, I can't thank you enough for coming
Speaker 1: back on to update us on this most recent experience
Speaker 1: or I should say event events a better way to
Speaker 1: put it. I'm with you on that, but yeah, please
Speaker 1: remember if you ever need any help in the future,
Speaker 1: always be there for you. And hopefully you are going
Speaker 1: to have some updates for us in the future. You
Speaker 1: never know.
Speaker 2: I can only hope.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully, so hopefully you will. Well, like I said,
Speaker 1: thanks against so much for your time and have a
Speaker 1: great night. Well that's another one in the books. Like
Speaker 1: I've told you multiple times, I can't thank you all
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Speaker 1: for supporting the show. Thank you so much. And if
Speaker 1: you've had a dog Meann encounter that you'd like to
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Speaker 1: fully complete the report, then I'll contact you. I'll reach
Speaker 1: out to you to schedule a film conversation so we
Speaker 1: can take it from there. But having said that, thanks
Speaker 1: again so much for listening and have a great night.