WEBVTT 1 00:00:11.199 --> 00:00:28.879 At a book. 2 00:01:27.640 --> 00:01:29.799 Hey everyone, thanks so much for joining us for this 3 00:01:29.879 --> 00:01:33.439 special midweek episode of the show. I really appreciate you 4 00:01:33.560 --> 00:01:38.680 showing up and tuning in. On episodes three ninety nine 5 00:01:38.719 --> 00:01:41.599 and four eighty eight, tonight's guest came on and told 6 00:01:41.680 --> 00:01:44.680 us about multiple encounters she had with a female dog 7 00:01:44.799 --> 00:01:46.879 me in her I guess I should say a dog 8 00:01:46.920 --> 00:01:52.439 woman that she affectionately calls Imber. Well, not too long ago. 9 00:01:52.599 --> 00:01:54.959 It was actually in July she reached out to me 10 00:01:55.040 --> 00:01:57.079 to let me know that she had had another experience 11 00:01:57.159 --> 00:01:59.519 with Imber and she was wanting to know if I'd 12 00:01:59.560 --> 00:02:02.040 like to get a full update on what happened. So 13 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:05.159 of course I said, yeah, I definitely would, And of 14 00:02:05.200 --> 00:02:08.199 course we scheduled the time for the film conversation where 15 00:02:08.240 --> 00:02:10.120 she could do that bring me up to speed, and 16 00:02:10.599 --> 00:02:13.960 she was just going detail by detail through. When once 17 00:02:13.960 --> 00:02:17.800 she shared a particular detail about that experience, it just 18 00:02:17.919 --> 00:02:21.240 blew me away. It really did. It blew her away 19 00:02:21.360 --> 00:02:24.280 when she noticed what she told me about and what 20 00:02:24.400 --> 00:02:27.479 she consequently is going to pass along to you. Well 21 00:02:27.840 --> 00:02:30.240 enough one to find details like that. Let's just bring 22 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:32.400 her in here now so we can get down to 23 00:02:32.439 --> 00:02:35.479 brass tacks and have Kim tell us about what's happened. 24 00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:40.319 Tonight's guest is Kim Kim. Thanks so much for coming. 25 00:02:40.120 --> 00:02:45.680 Back, Hivick and the rest of the dog Man Encounters 26 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:46.479 Radio family. 27 00:02:47.800 --> 00:02:50.680 Kim, you've been How should I put it? I just 28 00:02:50.719 --> 00:02:55.439 say you've become a show celebrity in a big sense. 29 00:02:55.520 --> 00:02:57.520 I mean, people have been looking forward to you coming 30 00:02:57.599 --> 00:03:01.280 back and given these updates on this most recent experience. 31 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:08.039 I think that just comes from the fact that my 32 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:11.319 encounter has been more pleasant and than a lot of 33 00:03:11.319 --> 00:03:13.919 what the other people have gone through. I've not had 34 00:03:13.960 --> 00:03:15.520 the terrors that other people have. 35 00:03:17.360 --> 00:03:19.120 Well, I see that as being a great thing for 36 00:03:19.199 --> 00:03:23.680 more reason than one. Lately, there's been a stretch of 37 00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:28.479 bad encounters. Eyewitnesses have been sharing with me. It's been bad. 38 00:03:28.599 --> 00:03:31.680 I mean they've been really traumatized by them, and understandably 39 00:03:31.759 --> 00:03:34.240 so if you knew what they went through with these encounters, 40 00:03:34.680 --> 00:03:39.360 Like I said, they're particularly traumatic experiences. Of course, there's 41 00:03:39.400 --> 00:03:41.479 the one I told you about I told the listeners 42 00:03:41.520 --> 00:03:45.120 about where the eyewitness said that he has felt tortured 43 00:03:45.639 --> 00:03:49.560 up until present day about his encounter because of what 44 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:54.599 happened that experience. Other experiences when you came along, you 45 00:03:54.680 --> 00:03:57.599 came along at the right time, because yeah, I mean, 46 00:03:58.159 --> 00:04:00.400 you can kind of get down in the dunk when 47 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:04.120 you're exposed to so many negative experiences. But when you 48 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:06.800 came along in July to give me the good news 49 00:04:06.840 --> 00:04:10.560 about what happened when you had your experience, I needed that. 50 00:04:10.840 --> 00:04:14.639 So I didn't tell you all this background info. But yeah, 51 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:16.839 it was really a good thing when you did that. 52 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:21.519 Well, the only reason that you heard from me, it 53 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:24.319 was because of Cody's show. You had reached out to 54 00:04:24.360 --> 00:04:28.000 me to tell me about Cody's show, and I was like, well, 55 00:04:28.120 --> 00:04:30.759 I'll just tell you where I've been recently and what 56 00:04:30.839 --> 00:04:32.480 I've been having go on. 57 00:04:34.839 --> 00:04:38.000 Well, I'm glad you did. Foreyone who isn't putting two 58 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:40.680 and two together. Cody's the eyewitness of Kim on recently 59 00:04:40.720 --> 00:04:44.040 to tell us about his experiences with Sasha, the dog 60 00:04:44.079 --> 00:04:47.639 woman that's been hanging around his rural property. That's what 61 00:04:47.759 --> 00:04:51.079 Kim's talking about. Kim, for any of the listeners who 62 00:04:51.160 --> 00:04:54.680 missed episodes three ninety nine and four eighty eight, please 63 00:04:54.680 --> 00:04:57.800 tell us about yourself, and then also please tell them 64 00:04:58.120 --> 00:05:01.759 the cliff Notes version of the experiences came one of 65 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:03.519 those two shows and told us about. 66 00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:11.360 Okay, I'm basically a retired nurse, which is temporary because 67 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:15.480 of a health issue. But I'm a vibrational sound therapist, 68 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:17.600 which is kind of an odd thing. We won't we 69 00:05:17.639 --> 00:05:21.519 won't expand on that single. I live in a motor 70 00:05:21.560 --> 00:05:26.120 home and I go back and forth to Mounern Springs, Kansas, 71 00:05:26.480 --> 00:05:29.360 from Kansas City, Kansas to my mother's and that's the 72 00:05:29.480 --> 00:05:33.879 area that I have had all my and and run 73 00:05:33.959 --> 00:05:39.839 ends with Amber. I don't know, uh vic. My first 74 00:05:40.720 --> 00:05:45.439 encounter was when I was sixteen and I was out 75 00:05:45.680 --> 00:05:50.600 one summer night with my little country boyfriend and we 76 00:05:50.680 --> 00:05:57.879 had a huge male dog man crossed the road in 77 00:05:57.879 --> 00:06:00.360 front of us, and I thought I was looking at 78 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:02.319 Satan at that point in time, because I had no 79 00:06:02.439 --> 00:06:04.680 idea what they were. I had never heard of them, 80 00:06:05.240 --> 00:06:07.000 and there were a lot of rumors going on, and 81 00:06:07.040 --> 00:06:09.959 that was back when the Satanic panic was going on. 82 00:06:10.519 --> 00:06:12.480 He was about ten foot tall and he was a 83 00:06:12.480 --> 00:06:16.120 little bit frightening, but he crossed in front of us 84 00:06:16.319 --> 00:06:18.680 and then went together side of the road, and I 85 00:06:18.720 --> 00:06:21.120 could it was everything I could do to get the 86 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:23.680 man in the truck to keep driving and get away 87 00:06:23.720 --> 00:06:25.839 from this creature, but it just stood there and looked 88 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:29.040 at us, did nothing but stand there and look at us. 89 00:06:29.639 --> 00:06:31.879 I had a pretty good view of him, but I 90 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:37.240 described him in that show. I'm not going to describe 91 00:06:37.279 --> 00:06:39.040 him again. I'm just giving you a kind of a 92 00:06:39.079 --> 00:06:43.879 thumbnail version of this. And fast forward to about a 93 00:06:43.959 --> 00:06:49.000 year ago, last spring and fall. I was coming and 94 00:06:49.040 --> 00:06:51.279 going to my mother's lot, and that's the first time 95 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:55.920 I saw Ember. I was just meandering along a road 96 00:06:55.959 --> 00:07:00.759 that day side road out where I usually drive through, 97 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:04.319 and I heard footsteps in the leaves, and I thought 98 00:07:04.360 --> 00:07:07.279 maybe it was somebody on a horse. But it wasn't 99 00:07:07.319 --> 00:07:10.160 four feet it was two, and it was amber. She. 100 00:07:11.720 --> 00:07:13.839 I think I startled her as much as she startled me. 101 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:18.040 Of course, I was shocked. And I stood there and 102 00:07:18.040 --> 00:07:20.639 looked at her for a few minutes, and after she 103 00:07:20.720 --> 00:07:24.600 bared her teeth at me, I left drove away. About 104 00:07:25.079 --> 00:07:27.480 two weeks after that, I was in the same area 105 00:07:28.079 --> 00:07:31.160 and in the distance along a backfield, I saw what 106 00:07:31.279 --> 00:07:37.360 I thought were five of them in various sizes, and 107 00:07:37.399 --> 00:07:39.639 I was thinking that maybe was her and her family, 108 00:07:39.639 --> 00:07:42.920 because it was just within like two weeks time when 109 00:07:43.160 --> 00:07:46.000 I did see those again, and then recently I had 110 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:52.519 encountered her again in the same area. The anything west 111 00:07:53.000 --> 00:07:57.120 of where they are is pretty well more rural than east, 112 00:07:57.600 --> 00:08:01.759 and they're staying in the same area. She's about two 113 00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:04.319 miles from where I saw her the first time. Right now, 114 00:08:04.439 --> 00:08:07.800 that's when I saw her this time, Victor, you want 115 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:09.480 me to just tell the story. 116 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:12.279 Not yet. I've got a few more questions for you, 117 00:08:12.439 --> 00:08:14.879 such as, how did you come up with such a 118 00:08:14.959 --> 00:08:17.360 great name for that's perfect Ember? 119 00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:24.000 Amber? Okay, Well, honestly I had I had Pomeranian puppies 120 00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:26.519 at one point in time, and there was one little 121 00:08:26.560 --> 00:08:29.600 puppy that was colored almost just like her, and the 122 00:08:29.680 --> 00:08:33.679 lady that adopted her named her Ember. So this little 123 00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:38.000 this little dog lady looked like that puppy in color, 124 00:08:38.120 --> 00:08:41.759 not not in cute, her size, just in color. That's 125 00:08:41.799 --> 00:08:43.600 how I came up with the name Ember. I also 126 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:49.799 have a honorary granddaughter named Emberlin. So Amber just was 127 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:51.799 just a good name. 128 00:08:53.320 --> 00:08:56.080 Yeah, that is a great name for it really is. 129 00:08:56.200 --> 00:08:56.960 I'm impressed. 130 00:08:57.080 --> 00:09:00.600 It was mostly her eyes amongst the ash color of 131 00:09:00.639 --> 00:09:04.879 he fur, those bright, bright yellow golden eyes amongst the 132 00:09:04.919 --> 00:09:08.679 ash color of fur, like an Ember that's still burning. 133 00:09:08.840 --> 00:09:09.080 You know. 134 00:09:10.200 --> 00:09:12.600 Well, that's witty. Like I said, that is a great 135 00:09:12.679 --> 00:09:16.639 name for before you have this most recent encounter in July. 136 00:09:16.919 --> 00:09:18.279 Do you been thinking about her much? 137 00:09:19.600 --> 00:09:21.840 Oh? Every time I drive through there, I'm down that 138 00:09:21.879 --> 00:09:24.240 way at least two to three times a week, and 139 00:09:24.279 --> 00:09:26.440 i go the exact same route every time, and I'm 140 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:27.159 always looking. 141 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:30.159 Wow. Yeah, that is a lot of effort to try 142 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:34.080 and see her. Do you subscribe to the idea that 143 00:09:34.120 --> 00:09:36.200 by thinking about her as much as you have been 144 00:09:36.279 --> 00:09:39.399 that maybe you made it more likely that you actually would. 145 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:46.200 I'm tending to lean towards that. Now. That wasn't something 146 00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:50.919 that I had become sure of, but that's very much 147 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:53.600 what I'm leaning towards thinking these days. Yes, after what 148 00:09:53.679 --> 00:09:56.120 happened to the other what happened to July. 149 00:09:56.279 --> 00:10:01.120 Definitely, if you're somewhat closed mind, it's all too easy 150 00:10:01.159 --> 00:10:05.240 to think that there's no possibility that obsessing on something 151 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:09.440 could affect your chances of encountering it again. But this 152 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:12.639 world is a strange place, It operates in strange ways. 153 00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:16.639 Maybe there is something to that. Maybe it did increase the. 154 00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:22.279 Well. As I said, I'm a vibrational sound therapist. I 155 00:10:22.279 --> 00:10:27.799 believe energy and vibrations motivate and drive everything, So it 156 00:10:27.879 --> 00:10:32.919 makes perfect sense to me to think that thoughts can 157 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:34.600 cause actions. 158 00:10:36.080 --> 00:10:38.679 Yeah, you just might be right on that. Who's to 159 00:10:38.720 --> 00:10:41.919 say that you're not considering the fact that you've had 160 00:10:41.919 --> 00:10:44.279 three sightings of her? Do you think that it might 161 00:10:44.320 --> 00:10:48.399 be connected to her on some level? I? 162 00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:51.720 Yeah, I begin to think I am. Now. It took 163 00:10:51.799 --> 00:10:56.639 me a while of studying the other encounters and listening 164 00:10:56.679 --> 00:10:59.559 to other people to accept that that might be a 165 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:05.039 possible because I rejected it originally, But I'm thinking along 166 00:11:05.080 --> 00:11:06.000 those lines now too. 167 00:11:06.080 --> 00:11:10.080 Yes, Well, this whole dog manner, I guess I should 168 00:11:10.120 --> 00:11:12.480 say dog woman thing was so new to you. Of 169 00:11:12.480 --> 00:11:15.879 course you rejected it. Almost anyone would. It's so much 170 00:11:15.919 --> 00:11:19.360 more comfortable to live in your in life when everything 171 00:11:19.480 --> 00:11:22.600 is predictable and everything is how it's supposed to be. 172 00:11:22.840 --> 00:11:25.240 But if you have an experience like the ones you've had, 173 00:11:25.320 --> 00:11:27.759 then yes, it's only natural that you're going to cling 174 00:11:27.840 --> 00:11:30.840 to some normalcy, at least for a certain period of time. 175 00:11:31.320 --> 00:11:36.159 So yeah, that's totally expected. How comfortable are you, Kim 176 00:11:36.440 --> 00:11:37.559 being around her? Now? 177 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:44.080 Well? I would be comfortable with her, but you know 178 00:11:44.200 --> 00:11:48.559 she has that companion now, so he was a whole 179 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:52.799 different I've got it kind of a Larry feeling about 180 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:57.240 that now her, No, I actually think that she would 181 00:11:57.559 --> 00:12:00.000 walk up to me, but she's never had that chance. 182 00:12:00.919 --> 00:12:04.240 And but I once I tell a story, they'll understand 183 00:12:04.279 --> 00:12:05.360 what I'm what I'm talking about. 184 00:12:06.480 --> 00:12:09.759 Yeah, like you said, especially with him around, that's not 185 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:15.200 going to happen, all right, Kim. Please? Oh I'm sorry, no, 186 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:19.399 So go ahead, Well, please tell us about this latest encounter. Now, 187 00:12:19.519 --> 00:12:21.559 give us every last detail that comes to mind. 188 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:27.840 Oh, for heaven's sakes. It was mid July. We had 189 00:12:27.840 --> 00:12:31.440 had a lot of rain and I had a flat tire. 190 00:12:32.120 --> 00:12:34.600 I was on my way to my mom's and I 191 00:12:34.799 --> 00:12:37.200 was had about three miles ago still to get there, 192 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:39.559 and I had a flat tire, and I pulled off 193 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:42.840 on a side road. This road has been under construction 194 00:12:42.960 --> 00:12:46.159 and still is under construction. They had taken out the 195 00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:48.840 entire road and it was down to gravel. They've been 196 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:52.080 digging big ditches on both sides, putting in new sewers 197 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:56.279 waterlines for several miles up this road, so it's just destroyed. 198 00:12:56.840 --> 00:12:59.879 I do not know why I pulled off and went 199 00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:03.639 the barriers onto that road. I initially got out of 200 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:05.279 the car and it was raining. It was just a 201 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:10.159 soft drizzle kind of rain, and not a serious hard rain. 202 00:13:10.279 --> 00:13:12.200 It just was enough to keep everything damp. And like 203 00:13:12.240 --> 00:13:14.200 I said, I'd been doing it for about three or 204 00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:17.519 four days, and the days were gray and weren't very 205 00:13:17.559 --> 00:13:20.720 sunny or bright. And uh, I got out of the car. 206 00:13:20.879 --> 00:13:23.159 I thought, I thought, you know, maybe I could blow 207 00:13:23.200 --> 00:13:26.879 the tire back up. Dumb me. But the tire was 208 00:13:26.919 --> 00:13:29.000 destroyed and I won't go into that. But anyway, so 209 00:13:29.159 --> 00:13:32.519 I got back in the car and I called U 210 00:13:32.759 --> 00:13:37.960 Triple A. I always keep Triple A. They're worth the money. Anyway, 211 00:13:38.000 --> 00:13:40.000 I called Triple A and they said it'd be about 212 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:43.559 an hour, maybe hour and a half, but they'd come 213 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:45.799 as soon as they could. And so I called my 214 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:47.320 mom and she goes, I'll come get you. I said, no, 215 00:13:47.360 --> 00:13:48.559 I don't want to leave the car here. You just 216 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:49.840 have to bring me back. I'll just sit here and 217 00:13:49.879 --> 00:13:53.320 play on my phone. So I'm a I'm sitting on 218 00:13:53.399 --> 00:13:58.879 a side road. There's a there's a house probably half 219 00:13:58.919 --> 00:14:02.039 a mile down another road, and there's no houses in 220 00:14:02.080 --> 00:14:05.919 front of me down this tore up road. So there's 221 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:08.200 really nobody around. There's not much traffic. It was about 222 00:14:08.240 --> 00:14:10.480 one thirty two in the afternoon. It was pretty early 223 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:12.600 because I was going to I was headed for my 224 00:14:12.600 --> 00:14:15.799 mom's and I do. I spend a lot of time 225 00:14:15.840 --> 00:14:17.480 with her. I help up with a lot of things. 226 00:14:17.559 --> 00:14:21.600 She is elderly, she's eighty six, and anyway, so I 227 00:14:21.679 --> 00:14:23.559 just sat there in the car and for about ten minutes, 228 00:14:23.559 --> 00:14:25.919 I was playing with my phone and I saw some 229 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:30.000 movement over to my left and I looked up, and okay, 230 00:14:30.519 --> 00:14:35.720 the road ends. It's very narrow because, like I said, 231 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:40.080 they've shaved off great, big, huge deep ditches on. Now 232 00:14:40.399 --> 00:14:45.320 I'm headed north. My car is facing north and I'm 233 00:14:45.320 --> 00:14:47.720 looking to the west when I say, I saw this 234 00:14:48.039 --> 00:14:52.200 sighting and I see, I see, I see movement in 235 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:54.879 the grass. And there's like three foot tall grass because 236 00:14:54.879 --> 00:14:57.639 then it's been cut, you know, for months and months. 237 00:14:58.000 --> 00:15:01.519 And there's a tree line about thirty to forty feet 238 00:15:01.559 --> 00:15:05.440 back from the road, and I see movement in the grass, 239 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:08.279 and I looked over and I immediately knew who I 240 00:15:08.320 --> 00:15:11.200 was looking at. The grass was tall, but it was sparse. 241 00:15:11.279 --> 00:15:14.320 You could see through it, but not clearly, and I 242 00:15:14.360 --> 00:15:16.360 could see her. I saw her peeking at me, and 243 00:15:16.600 --> 00:15:21.120 I could not believe. I could not believe. And I'm thinking, 244 00:15:21.200 --> 00:15:22.879 oh my god, I'm sitting here with a flat tire. 245 00:15:22.919 --> 00:15:25.600 What am I gonna do? She's she's down on all 246 00:15:25.639 --> 00:15:30.240 fours in the grass and she stands up on she 247 00:15:30.360 --> 00:15:32.799 stands up on her two feet, and so she's my 248 00:15:32.919 --> 00:15:35.519 pedal at this point, and she's she's kind she's just 249 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:38.440 stand there looking at me. And my windows were down 250 00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:41.919 a little bit but it was raining, but they went 251 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:44.200 up after this after I saw her. The windows went 252 00:15:44.279 --> 00:15:46.159 up and the doors got locked. But I rolled my 253 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:49.840 window down and I actually said her name, and she 254 00:15:49.919 --> 00:15:51.960 just kind of looked at me, and she wasn't facing 255 00:15:51.960 --> 00:15:54.799 me straight on. She was kind of turned to her 256 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:58.480 left a little bit, kind of like she was going 257 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:00.879 to turn around and go back the other way maybe, 258 00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:03.279 or you know, just to flee. But she stood there 259 00:16:03.360 --> 00:16:06.120 in that position and looked at me. She went back 260 00:16:06.200 --> 00:16:09.480 down on all fours, took a few more steps forward, 261 00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:12.320 and remained down on the grass for just a little 262 00:16:12.320 --> 00:16:16.120 bit and then stood up again. And when she stood up, 263 00:16:17.480 --> 00:16:20.080 I noticed something about her that I just still cannot 264 00:16:20.120 --> 00:16:25.840 believe to this day. She's pregnant. She has a baby bump. 265 00:16:25.919 --> 00:16:29.879 She wasn't very far along. Vic and I discussed this 266 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:32.720 because I said, you know, she who knows when she's 267 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:35.759 going to have it. I'm figuring probably next spring because 268 00:16:35.799 --> 00:16:37.799 we don't know anything about him. Of course, nobody knows 269 00:16:37.799 --> 00:16:41.480 anything about these creatures. But she's pregnant, and she's just 270 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:43.279 as cute. She's just as cute as she ever was. 271 00:16:43.320 --> 00:16:46.519 She's a pretty she's very pretty. She's gray and she's 272 00:16:46.559 --> 00:16:49.279 got kind of white tips to her. I think her 273 00:16:49.799 --> 00:16:51.720 hair has changed just a little bit. She seems a 274 00:16:51.759 --> 00:16:54.879 little darker. She's taller. She was about five foot when 275 00:16:54.879 --> 00:16:57.080 I saw her the first time. Now she's probably closer 276 00:16:57.120 --> 00:17:03.559 to six feet. And she hasn't really filled out. She's 277 00:17:03.600 --> 00:17:08.319 not gotten bigger. She's still fairly slender. The dog women 278 00:17:08.440 --> 00:17:11.759 are bottle are built just a little bit different bodily wise. 279 00:17:12.119 --> 00:17:14.640 There's still a big being, but they're they're more there's 280 00:17:14.640 --> 00:17:18.119 more slender, and they've got more of an hourglass shape 281 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:20.640 in a way, I guess because they're females and they 282 00:17:20.920 --> 00:17:26.799 they Anyway, she's pregnant, and so I'm just sitting there 283 00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:28.519 looking at her, thinking, what am I going to do, 284 00:17:28.720 --> 00:17:30.880 Oh my goodness, if she, if she, she would have 285 00:17:30.880 --> 00:17:33.319 had to come down into a very big ditch and 286 00:17:33.799 --> 00:17:36.119 cross the ditch. But you know these guys, they could jump, 287 00:17:36.680 --> 00:17:38.680 so she could have gotten over there if she wanted to. 288 00:17:38.720 --> 00:17:40.880 But she didn't. She just stood there and looked at me. 289 00:17:41.480 --> 00:17:45.839 She uh stood there and looked at me for quite 290 00:17:45.839 --> 00:17:48.279 a while. It's probably five minutes. This whole thing, this 291 00:17:48.359 --> 00:17:51.759 whole encounter. I think this is an event, not an encounter. Actually, 292 00:17:51.799 --> 00:17:55.319 this is pretty special for me what I had happened 293 00:17:55.319 --> 00:17:59.440 this time. But she she glanced back over her shoulder, 294 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:04.400 and she has she has a male with her, and 295 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:07.680 he's standing behind a tree. There's a limb in front 296 00:18:07.680 --> 00:18:11.039 of him. His head's up over the limb. He was probably, yeah, 297 00:18:11.079 --> 00:18:14.680 i'd say he was a good nine ten feet tall. 298 00:18:14.759 --> 00:18:17.000 Maybe I know he was at least eight foot tall. 299 00:18:17.000 --> 00:18:19.480 I've not been back to measure. If I can get 300 00:18:19.519 --> 00:18:21.160 somebody to go with me, I might go back. But 301 00:18:21.400 --> 00:18:24.720 until then I'll have to wait. But he was looking 302 00:18:24.759 --> 00:18:27.279 over the limb, over the limb of the tree, through 303 00:18:27.319 --> 00:18:30.079 the leaves. I could not see him very very clearly, 304 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:33.799 because he was intending to hide himself. He was not 305 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:37.200 making himself known. But I saw him and he was male, 306 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:41.200 and he was standing up behind the tree, and she 307 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:44.799 had made a step towards me to come down, to 308 00:18:44.839 --> 00:18:47.759 come closer. But he made some kind of noise. He 309 00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:50.599 made a grumble. He didn't really growl. It wasn't loud, 310 00:18:50.640 --> 00:18:55.640 it wasn't mean. He just grumbled and she was like, oh, okay. Well, 311 00:18:56.079 --> 00:18:58.799 so she gets back down on all fours and she 312 00:18:59.839 --> 00:19:01.799 trying to keep an eye on him because now he's 313 00:19:01.839 --> 00:19:04.319 got me worried because I'm ready to leave go. I'm 314 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:06.480 going to drive off on my hub if I have to. 315 00:19:07.000 --> 00:19:09.160 He did not come out. He didn't a matter of fact, 316 00:19:09.160 --> 00:19:12.319 he disappeared. He went back into the woods behind him, 317 00:19:12.599 --> 00:19:17.079 and she followed him, and she went back into the woods, 318 00:19:17.119 --> 00:19:19.400 and that was the end of my actually seeing her. 319 00:19:19.960 --> 00:19:23.000 So I'm waiting on Triple A. Triple A guy shows up, 320 00:19:23.680 --> 00:19:26.480 and I'm thinking what am I going to do if 321 00:19:26.519 --> 00:19:29.240 these creatures come back out of the woods. So I'm 322 00:19:29.279 --> 00:19:31.480 looking up there at the woods and watching them, and 323 00:19:31.519 --> 00:19:33.799 he's like, is something wrong? He says, what are you 324 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:35.519 looking at? I said, oh, there's there was some deer 325 00:19:35.559 --> 00:19:38.279 up there earlier that I was looking at, and I 326 00:19:38.319 --> 00:19:40.079 was just seeing if they were going to come back out, 327 00:19:40.359 --> 00:19:41.759 because I was thinking, what was I going to do 328 00:19:41.799 --> 00:19:43.880 with him if they came out, and where was I 329 00:19:43.920 --> 00:19:46.680 going to go? What were we going to do? They 330 00:19:46.720 --> 00:19:48.720 never did, They never stepped back out. They were gone. 331 00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:51.079 They were gone, but they were in the same They 332 00:19:51.119 --> 00:19:53.640 were in a tree line in front of the field 333 00:19:55.279 --> 00:19:59.720 that I saw the group back when I first saw 334 00:19:59.720 --> 00:20:01.680 her the first time, and then I saw the group 335 00:20:01.759 --> 00:20:04.240 a few weeks later. They were still in the exact 336 00:20:04.279 --> 00:20:08.519 same area. So they're staying right there. Lots of deer, 337 00:20:09.079 --> 00:20:12.720 I'm close to the Kansas River, lots of woods. You 338 00:20:12.759 --> 00:20:18.559 can travel from one end of we're actual where it 339 00:20:18.599 --> 00:20:21.680 actually becomes more rule. You can travel from one end 340 00:20:21.960 --> 00:20:24.200 clear to my house if they wanted to, or clear 341 00:20:24.279 --> 00:20:29.039 up towards Lawrence or Topeka. There's woods everywhere. So they're 342 00:20:29.079 --> 00:20:31.880 just here and I got to see her. But yeah, 343 00:20:31.920 --> 00:20:35.240 she had a little baby bump. I don't know. I 344 00:20:35.279 --> 00:20:40.000 don't know what to compare it to. She looks like 345 00:20:40.240 --> 00:20:46.240 maybe a seven month pregnant female human is what I 346 00:20:46.240 --> 00:20:52.839 would compare her baby bump to. But it was pretty cool. 347 00:20:53.960 --> 00:20:57.319 Yeah, pretty cool doesn't do it any justice. That's amazing. 348 00:20:57.359 --> 00:20:59.720 When you told me about that, that blew me away. 349 00:20:59.759 --> 00:21:01.200 I think you've got to be kidding me. 350 00:21:03.480 --> 00:21:05.480 Tickled, that's why she would That's why I think she 351 00:21:05.599 --> 00:21:07.839 was going around on all fours as much as she was, 352 00:21:09.359 --> 00:21:12.519 because she was moving around on all fours more than 353 00:21:12.880 --> 00:21:17.240 she didn't actually walk around up upright. Her movement was 354 00:21:17.279 --> 00:21:19.880 always when she got down on all fours, a little 355 00:21:19.880 --> 00:21:21.880 bit of movement I got out of her. So I'm 356 00:21:21.880 --> 00:21:25.599 thinking maybe it's more comfortable, or maybe it's protective. I 357 00:21:25.640 --> 00:21:29.480 don't know. I'm just making this putting it fairies out there. 358 00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:33.200 Well, when you consider the fact that she's walking around 359 00:21:33.279 --> 00:21:37.279 in a digitigrade fashion on her toes if she's pregnant, 360 00:21:37.480 --> 00:21:39.240 I can only imagine that it's got to be a 361 00:21:39.279 --> 00:21:42.920 lot more comfortable to ambulate on all fours than up 362 00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:45.640 on two legs. So that makes sense. That does fit. 363 00:21:47.079 --> 00:21:49.359 Yeah, that does. 364 00:21:50.680 --> 00:21:53.160 Let's say that the dog man wouldn't have been escorting 365 00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:55.759 her that day. Are you concerned at all that she 366 00:21:55.839 --> 00:21:58.640 might have been a little more aggressive than normal considering 367 00:21:58.640 --> 00:21:59.920 the fact that she is pregnant. 368 00:22:02.279 --> 00:22:05.400 If I had approached her, maybe she could have been. 369 00:22:05.759 --> 00:22:08.000 But if she had approached me, I don't think so. 370 00:22:08.240 --> 00:22:10.720 I don't think so. She didn't even bear her teeth 371 00:22:10.720 --> 00:22:11.519 at me this time. 372 00:22:13.960 --> 00:22:16.480 Yeah, she's really getting to know you. You're almost becoming 373 00:22:16.519 --> 00:22:17.319 old hat for her. 374 00:22:17.480 --> 00:22:22.559 It sounds like, oh, for heaven's sakes, well, should I 375 00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:24.920 tell about the my mom's house thing? 376 00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:25.920 Please do? 377 00:22:28.039 --> 00:22:31.440 About two days after this happened. Of course I didn't 378 00:22:31.440 --> 00:22:33.759 find out until like a whole week later, But two 379 00:22:33.880 --> 00:22:37.640 days after I saw these guys. It was about ten 380 00:22:37.799 --> 00:22:40.599 thirty eleven o'clock at night. My mother lives by herself, 381 00:22:40.640 --> 00:22:43.839 and she has an Earth contact home. And the second 382 00:22:43.880 --> 00:22:48.880 story is above ground, and the bottom story is below 383 00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:52.359 ground and surrounded on three sides, but the roof comes 384 00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:56.480 down level with the ground. You can you can go 385 00:22:56.839 --> 00:22:58.680 around back of the house and hop up on the 386 00:22:58.720 --> 00:23:04.119 roof and walk up to the peace where there are skylights. Well, 387 00:23:04.319 --> 00:23:08.839 mom thought she heard somebody at the back door that night, 388 00:23:09.200 --> 00:23:11.880 two nights later, and she called my brother in law 389 00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:13.920 and he came up. But he can't get up there 390 00:23:14.000 --> 00:23:16.240 quick enough, and she could have. She told me, she 391 00:23:16.279 --> 00:23:18.960 said she swore somebody was on the roof and had 392 00:23:19.039 --> 00:23:25.079 knocked on the skylight. And when my when my brother 393 00:23:25.079 --> 00:23:27.160 in law got there, of course he didn't find anything. 394 00:23:27.680 --> 00:23:31.000 But I have told her since to not take the 395 00:23:31.039 --> 00:23:34.400 dog out after dark, to make sure that she takes 396 00:23:34.440 --> 00:23:37.359 her out, you know, in the daylight. And she hasn't 397 00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:40.079 heard anything since. But she tells me this week later, 398 00:23:40.680 --> 00:23:43.079 and I was like, oh no, because I went after 399 00:23:43.119 --> 00:23:45.920 I got my tire fixed, after they got done with 400 00:23:45.920 --> 00:23:48.359 my tire, I went to her house and I got 401 00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:52.200