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Speaker 2: At a book.

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Speaker 1: Hey everyone, thanks so much for joining us for this

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special midweek episode of the show. I really appreciate you

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showing up and tuning in. On episodes three ninety nine

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and four eighty eight, tonight's guest came on and told

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us about multiple encounters she had with a female dog

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me in her I guess I should say a dog

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woman that she affectionately calls Imber. Well, not too long ago.

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It was actually in July she reached out to me

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to let me know that she had had another experience

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with Imber and she was wanting to know if I'd

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like to get a full update on what happened. So

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of course I said, yeah, I definitely would, And of

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course we scheduled the time for the film conversation where

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she could do that bring me up to speed, and

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she was just going detail by detail through. When once

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she shared a particular detail about that experience, it just

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blew me away. It really did. It blew her away

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when she noticed what she told me about and what

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she consequently is going to pass along to you. Well

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enough one to find details like that. Let's just bring

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her in here now so we can get down to

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brass tacks and have Kim tell us about what's happened.

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Tonight's guest is Kim Kim. Thanks so much for coming.

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Speaker 2: Back, Hivick and the rest of the dog Man Encounters

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Radio family.

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Speaker 1: Kim, you've been How should I put it? I just

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say you've become a show celebrity in a big sense.

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I mean, people have been looking forward to you coming

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back and given these updates on this most recent experience.

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Speaker 2: I think that just comes from the fact that my

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encounter has been more pleasant and than a lot of

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what the other people have gone through. I've not had

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the terrors that other people have.

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Speaker 1: Well, I see that as being a great thing for

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more reason than one. Lately, there's been a stretch of

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bad encounters. Eyewitnesses have been sharing with me. It's been bad.

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I mean they've been really traumatized by them, and understandably

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so if you knew what they went through with these encounters,

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Like I said, they're particularly traumatic experiences. Of course, there's

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the one I told you about I told the listeners

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about where the eyewitness said that he has felt tortured

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up until present day about his encounter because of what

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happened that experience. Other experiences when you came along, you

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came along at the right time, because yeah, I mean,

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you can kind of get down in the dunk when

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you're exposed to so many negative experiences. But when you

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came along in July to give me the good news

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about what happened when you had your experience, I needed that.

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So I didn't tell you all this background info. But yeah,

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it was really a good thing when you did that.

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Speaker 2: Well, the only reason that you heard from me, it

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was because of Cody's show. You had reached out to

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me to tell me about Cody's show, and I was like, well,

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I'll just tell you where I've been recently and what

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I've been having go on.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you did. Foreyone who isn't putting two

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and two together. Cody's the eyewitness of Kim on recently

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to tell us about his experiences with Sasha, the dog

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woman that's been hanging around his rural property. That's what

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Kim's talking about. Kim, for any of the listeners who

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missed episodes three ninety nine and four eighty eight, please

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tell us about yourself, and then also please tell them

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the cliff Notes version of the experiences came one of

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those two shows and told us about.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm basically a retired nurse, which is temporary because

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of a health issue. But I'm a vibrational sound therapist,

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which is kind of an odd thing. We won't we

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won't expand on that single. I live in a motor

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home and I go back and forth to Mounern Springs, Kansas,

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from Kansas City, Kansas to my mother's and that's the

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area that I have had all my and and run

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ends with Amber. I don't know, uh vic. My first

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encounter was when I was sixteen and I was out

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one summer night with my little country boyfriend and we

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had a huge male dog man crossed the road in

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front of us, and I thought I was looking at

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Satan at that point in time, because I had no

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idea what they were. I had never heard of them,

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and there were a lot of rumors going on, and

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that was back when the Satanic panic was going on.

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He was about ten foot tall and he was a

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little bit frightening, but he crossed in front of us

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and then went together side of the road, and I

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could it was everything I could do to get the

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man in the truck to keep driving and get away

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from this creature, but it just stood there and looked

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at us, did nothing but stand there and look at us.

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I had a pretty good view of him, but I

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described him in that show. I'm not going to describe

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him again. I'm just giving you a kind of a

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thumbnail version of this. And fast forward to about a

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year ago, last spring and fall. I was coming and

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going to my mother's lot, and that's the first time

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I saw Ember. I was just meandering along a road

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that day side road out where I usually drive through,

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and I heard footsteps in the leaves, and I thought

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maybe it was somebody on a horse. But it wasn't

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four feet it was two, and it was amber. She.

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I think I startled her as much as she startled me.

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Of course, I was shocked. And I stood there and

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looked at her for a few minutes, and after she

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bared her teeth at me, I left drove away. About

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two weeks after that, I was in the same area

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and in the distance along a backfield, I saw what

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I thought were five of them in various sizes, and

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I was thinking that maybe was her and her family,

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because it was just within like two weeks time when

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I did see those again, and then recently I had

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encountered her again in the same area. The anything west

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of where they are is pretty well more rural than east,

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and they're staying in the same area. She's about two

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miles from where I saw her the first time. Right now,

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that's when I saw her this time, Victor, you want

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me to just tell the story.

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Speaker 1: Not yet. I've got a few more questions for you,

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such as, how did you come up with such a

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great name for that's perfect Ember?

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Speaker 2: Amber? Okay, Well, honestly I had I had Pomeranian puppies

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at one point in time, and there was one little

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puppy that was colored almost just like her, and the

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lady that adopted her named her Ember. So this little

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this little dog lady looked like that puppy in color,

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not not in cute, her size, just in color. That's

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how I came up with the name Ember. I also

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have a honorary granddaughter named Emberlin. So Amber just was

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just a good name.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a great name for it really is.

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I'm impressed.

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Speaker 2: It was mostly her eyes amongst the ash color of

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he fur, those bright, bright yellow golden eyes amongst the

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ash color of fur, like an Ember that's still burning.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's witty. Like I said, that is a great

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name for before you have this most recent encounter in July.

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Do you been thinking about her much?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Every time I drive through there, I'm down that

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way at least two to three times a week, and

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i go the exact same route every time, and I'm

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always looking.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, that is a lot of effort to try

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and see her. Do you subscribe to the idea that

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by thinking about her as much as you have been

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that maybe you made it more likely that you actually would.

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Speaker 2: I'm tending to lean towards that. Now. That wasn't something

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that I had become sure of, but that's very much

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what I'm leaning towards thinking these days. Yes, after what

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happened to the other what happened to July.

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Speaker 1: Definitely, if you're somewhat closed mind, it's all too easy

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to think that there's no possibility that obsessing on something

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could affect your chances of encountering it again. But this

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world is a strange place, It operates in strange ways.

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Maybe there is something to that. Maybe it did increase the.

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Speaker 2: Well. As I said, I'm a vibrational sound therapist. I

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believe energy and vibrations motivate and drive everything, So it

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makes perfect sense to me to think that thoughts can

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cause actions.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you just might be right on that. Who's to

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say that you're not considering the fact that you've had

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three sightings of her? Do you think that it might

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be connected to her on some level? I?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I begin to think I am. Now. It took

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me a while of studying the other encounters and listening

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to other people to accept that that might be a

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possible because I rejected it originally, But I'm thinking along

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those lines now too.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Well, this whole dog manner, I guess I should

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say dog woman thing was so new to you. Of

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course you rejected it. Almost anyone would. It's so much

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more comfortable to live in your in life when everything

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is predictable and everything is how it's supposed to be.

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But if you have an experience like the ones you've had,

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then yes, it's only natural that you're going to cling

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to some normalcy, at least for a certain period of time.

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So yeah, that's totally expected. How comfortable are you, Kim

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being around her? Now?

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Speaker 2: Well? I would be comfortable with her, but you know

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she has that companion now, so he was a whole

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different I've got it kind of a Larry feeling about

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that now her, No, I actually think that she would

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walk up to me, but she's never had that chance.

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what I'm what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like you said, especially with him around, that's not

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going to happen, all right, Kim. Please? Oh I'm sorry, no,

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So go ahead, Well, please tell us about this latest encounter. Now,

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give us every last detail that comes to mind.

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Speaker 2: Oh, for heaven's sakes. It was mid July. We had

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had a lot of rain and I had a flat tire.

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I was on my way to my mom's and I

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was had about three miles ago still to get there,

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and I had a flat tire, and I pulled off

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on a side road. This road has been under construction

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and still is under construction. They had taken out the

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entire road and it was down to gravel. They've been

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digging big ditches on both sides, putting in new sewers

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waterlines for several miles up this road, so it's just destroyed.

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I do not know why I pulled off and went

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the barriers onto that road. I initially got out of

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the car and it was raining. It was just a

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soft drizzle kind of rain, and not a serious hard rain.

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I said, I'd been doing it for about three or

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four days, and the days were gray and weren't very

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sunny or bright. And uh, I got out of the car.

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I thought, I thought, you know, maybe I could blow

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the tire back up. Dumb me. But the tire was

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destroyed and I won't go into that. But anyway, so

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I got back in the car and I called U

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Triple A. I always keep Triple A. They're worth the money. Anyway,

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I called Triple A and they said it'd be about

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an hour, maybe hour and a half, but they'd come

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as soon as they could. And so I called my

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mom and she goes, I'll come get you. I said, no,

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I don't want to leave the car here. You just

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have to bring me back. I'll just sit here and

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play on my phone. So I'm a I'm sitting on

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a side road. There's a there's a house probably half

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a mile down another road, and there's no houses in

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front of me down this tore up road. So there's

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really nobody around. There's not much traffic. It was about

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one thirty two in the afternoon. It was pretty early

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mom's and I do. I spend a lot of time

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just sat there in the car and for about ten minutes,

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I was playing with my phone and I saw some

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movement over to my left and I looked up, and okay,

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the road ends. It's very narrow because, like I said,

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they've shaved off great, big, huge deep ditches on. Now

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I'm headed north. My car is facing north and I'm

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looking to the west when I say, I saw this

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sighting and I see, I see, I see movement in

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the grass. And there's like three foot tall grass because

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then it's been cut, you know, for months and months.

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back from the road, and I see movement in the grass,

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and I looked over and I immediately knew who I

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was looking at. The grass was tall, but it was sparse.

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You could see through it, but not clearly, and I

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could see her. I saw her peeking at me, and

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I could not believe. I could not believe. And I'm thinking,

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oh my god, I'm sitting here with a flat tire.

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What am I gonna do? She's she's down on all

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fours in the grass and she stands up on she

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stands up on her two feet, and so she's my

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pedal at this point, and she's she's kind she's just

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stand there looking at me. And my windows were down

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a little bit but it was raining, but they went

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up after this after I saw her. The windows went

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up and the doors got locked. But I rolled my

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window down and I actually said her name, and she

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just kind of looked at me, and she wasn't facing

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me straight on. She was kind of turned to her

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left a little bit, kind of like she was going

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to turn around and go back the other way maybe,

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or you know, just to flee. But she stood there

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in that position and looked at me. She went back

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down on all fours, took a few more steps forward,

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and remained down on the grass for just a little

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bit and then stood up again. And when she stood up,

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I noticed something about her that I just still cannot

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believe to this day. She's pregnant. She has a baby bump.

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She wasn't very far along. Vic and I discussed this

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because I said, you know, she who knows when she's

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going to have it. I'm figuring probably next spring because

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we don't know anything about him. Of course, nobody knows

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anything about these creatures. But she's pregnant, and she's just

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as cute. She's just as cute as she ever was.

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She's a pretty she's very pretty. She's gray and she's

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got kind of white tips to her. I think her

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hair has changed just a little bit. She seems a

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little darker. She's taller. She was about five foot when

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I saw her the first time. Now she's probably closer

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to six feet. And she hasn't really filled out. She's

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not gotten bigger. She's still fairly slender. The dog women

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are bottle are built just a little bit different bodily wise.

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more slender, and they've got more of an hourglass shape

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in a way, I guess because they're females and they

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they Anyway, she's pregnant, and so I'm just sitting there

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looking at her, thinking, what am I going to do,

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Oh my goodness, if she, if she, she would have

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had to come down into a very big ditch and

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cross the ditch. But you know these guys, they could jump,

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so she could have gotten over there if she wanted to.

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But she didn't. She just stood there and looked at me.

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She uh stood there and looked at me for quite

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a while. It's probably five minutes. This whole thing, this

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whole encounter. I think this is an event, not an encounter. Actually,

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this is pretty special for me what I had happened

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this time. But she she glanced back over her shoulder,

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and she has she has a male with her, and

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he's standing behind a tree. There's a limb in front

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of him. His head's up over the limb. He was probably, yeah,

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i'd say he was a good nine ten feet tall.

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Maybe I know he was at least eight foot tall.

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I've not been back to measure. If I can get

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somebody to go with me, I might go back. But

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until then I'll have to wait. But he was looking

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over the limb, over the limb of the tree, through

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the leaves. I could not see him very very clearly,

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because he was intending to hide himself. He was not

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making himself known. But I saw him and he was male,

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and he was standing up behind the tree, and she

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had made a step towards me to come down, to

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come closer. But he made some kind of noise. He

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made a grumble. He didn't really growl. It wasn't loud,

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it wasn't mean. He just grumbled and she was like, oh, okay. Well,

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so she gets back down on all fours and she

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trying to keep an eye on him because now he's

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got me worried because I'm ready to leave go. I'm

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going to drive off on my hub if I have to.

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He did not come out. He didn't a matter of fact,

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he disappeared. He went back into the woods behind him,

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and she followed him, and she went back into the woods,

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and that was the end of my actually seeing her.

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So I'm waiting on Triple A. Triple A guy shows up,

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and I'm thinking what am I going to do if

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these creatures come back out of the woods. So I'm

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looking up there at the woods and watching them, and

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he's like, is something wrong? He says, what are you

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looking at? I said, oh, there's there was some deer

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up there earlier that I was looking at, and I

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was just seeing if they were going to come back out,

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because I was thinking, what was I going to do

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with him if they came out, and where was I

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going to go? What were we going to do? They

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never did, They never stepped back out. They were gone.

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They were gone, but they were in the same They

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were in a tree line in front of the field

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that I saw the group back when I first saw

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her the first time, and then I saw the group

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a few weeks later. They were still in the exact

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same area. So they're staying right there. Lots of deer,

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I'm close to the Kansas River, lots of woods. You

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can travel from one end of we're actual where it

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actually becomes more rule. You can travel from one end

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clear to my house if they wanted to, or clear

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up towards Lawrence or Topeka. There's woods everywhere. So they're

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just here and I got to see her. But yeah,

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she had a little baby bump. I don't know. I

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don't know what to compare it to. She looks like

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maybe a seven month pregnant female human is what I

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would compare her baby bump to. But it was pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty cool doesn't do it any justice. That's amazing.

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When you told me about that, that blew me away.

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I think you've got to be kidding me.

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Speaker 2: Tickled, that's why she would That's why I think she

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was going around on all fours as much as she was,

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because she was moving around on all fours more than

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she didn't actually walk around up upright. Her movement was

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always when she got down on all fours, a little

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bit of movement I got out of her. So I'm

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thinking maybe it's more comfortable, or maybe it's protective. I

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don't know. I'm just making this putting it fairies out there.

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Speaker 1: Well, when you consider the fact that she's walking around

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in a digitigrade fashion on her toes if she's pregnant,

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I can only imagine that it's got to be a

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lot more comfortable to ambulate on all fours than up

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on two legs. So that makes sense. That does fit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that does.

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Speaker 1: Let's say that the dog man wouldn't have been escorting

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her that day. Are you concerned at all that she

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might have been a little more aggressive than normal considering

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the fact that she is pregnant.

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Speaker 2: If I had approached her, maybe she could have been.

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But if she had approached me, I don't think so.

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I don't think so. She didn't even bear her teeth

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at me this time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's really getting to know you. You're almost becoming

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old hat for her.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like, oh, for heaven's sakes, well, should I

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tell about the my mom's house thing?

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Speaker 1: Please do?

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Speaker 2: About two days after this happened. Of course I didn't

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find out until like a whole week later, But two

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days after I saw these guys. It was about ten

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thirty eleven o'clock at night. My mother lives by herself,

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and she has an Earth contact home. And the second

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story is above ground, and the bottom story is below

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ground and surrounded on three sides, but the roof comes

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down level with the ground. You can you can go

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around back of the house and hop up on the

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roof and walk up to the peace where there are skylights. Well,

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mom thought she heard somebody at the back door that night,

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two nights later, and she called my brother in law

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and he came up. But he can't get up there

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quick enough, and she could have. She told me, she

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said she swore somebody was on the roof and had

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knocked on the skylight. And when my when my brother

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in law got there, of course he didn't find anything.

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But I have told her since to not take the

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dog out after dark, to make sure that she takes

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her out, you know, in the daylight. And she hasn't

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heard anything since. But she tells me this week later,

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and I was like, oh no, because I went after

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I got my tire fixed, after they got done with

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my tire, I went to her house and I got

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there about three three point thirty four. I didn't stay

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very long, and so two days later they may have

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visited her. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Possibility, Yeah, sounds like they just might have. Before we

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move on. I just want to thank Liz l. Eclair

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for her donation. I really appreciate it. Liz, thank you

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so much. Kim, is that area where you've been seeing

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her in those other dog men is it mostly wooded?

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You said there's a lot of trees around there, But

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is the area mostly wooded and it just has a

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little bit in the way of open areas or are

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there actually more open areas than forest cover.

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Speaker 2: There's more woodland all together. I mean, we've got a

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few farms sprinkled out there, and of course there's farmland.

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It's none of it's planted anymore, and none of it's

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grazed anymore. But there were farms. But there's a lot

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of woods. And there's more woods than I ever would

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have thought about, because after I saw her the first time,

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it's when I actually started paying attention to, you know,

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the woods. Actually there was another time. I think I

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mentioned it to you in a like I said, you

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a message, uh message, a messenger. After I saw that

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group a couple of weeks later, I could have swore

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I saw a mail or a big uh dog man

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crossed the road in front of the car in front

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of me, and they slammed on their brakes and it

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went down into the ditch where the creek was. The

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car slammed on its brakes. I was far enough behind

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it I thought that's what I saw. Since my eyesight's

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not the best, it could have been something else, But

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it looked like by It looked like one that was

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up upright walking and it ran. You know. They they

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they're like a streak of lightning. So there's a lot

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of woods. There's a lot of creeks, lots of woods.

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Almost all of it connects in one way or another.

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You can almost you could travel in tree cover for

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for miles and miles without you know, having having to

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go out into a field.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like the perfect habitat for them. No one,

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they hang out there in big numbers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just real curious why they're hanging around, or

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maybe maybe they went away and came back. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's their mo to move around a

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huge home range. I don't think they're in that area

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all the time. Consequently, I think they just circle back

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to it. But if it's that big of an area,

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with that much in the way of resources, they probably

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do spend a pretty good amount of time there. So Yeah,

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it's no wonder you've seen them so many times considering

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how many times you have to drive through there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I won't be surprised the next time I

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see her at all.

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Speaker 1: Well, like I told you before, I definitely hope that's

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not your last time seeing her. I don't think it's

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going to be. I really don't. Do you have any

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concerns for the safety of the people who live around

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that area where you've been seeing.

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Speaker 2: Them, Yes, we talked about that before, because the first

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time I saw her, I just told you I'd bet

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that she wasn't by herself. She was such a young female,

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made no sense for her is to be out wandering around. Well,

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now since I've heard about Sasha, I mean, obviously there

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are some rogue females, but now that I've seen her

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with the big guy, yeah, he worries me. She does not.

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I mean, I know she can be aggressive there. They

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all can, but he's the one that worries me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got good cause to be concerned about him.

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I mean, I'm sure he's going to be ridiculously protective

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of her. It's not like she would need his protection

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from any people coming into that area. But I'm sure

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he doesn't see it that way. He takes this job

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pretty seriously.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure I think she can hold her own. She's

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got the claws and the teeth. She's you know, she's

475
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:47,519
still got the weapons. I mean, she's smaller and more slender,

476
00:27:47,559 --> 00:27:49,000
but she definitely could hold her own.

477
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,839
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't doubt that at all. I don't from

478
00:27:53,839 --> 00:27:57,359
what I understand. Well, I guess we've already covered that.

479
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,799
We don't need to hash that out anymore. How far

480
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,559
does your mother live, though, I'm wondering from that area

481
00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:06,000
where you've been seeing him bring they have the dog

482
00:28:06,079 --> 00:28:11,200
men three miles three miles Okay, so yeah, that's a hop,

483
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,119
skip and a jump as far as dog meing go.

484
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,559
Speaker 2: Well, heck y, it's about a fifteen minute walk for them,

485
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:17,440
I'm sure.

486
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, if not less with those long legs they have.

487
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:27,240
But yeah, that's just how it goes. If they're that

488
00:28:27,319 --> 00:28:33,440
close to where she lives. I'm wondering though, Also, you

489
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,240
don't consider, from what I remember about our conversation, you

490
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,720
don't consider that most recent sighting and encounter. You consider

491
00:28:40,759 --> 00:28:41,599
it to be an event.

492
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,319
Speaker 2: How so, Yeah, because she was pregnant. Who when am

493
00:28:46,359 --> 00:28:49,519
I ever going to see that again? The chances of

494
00:28:49,559 --> 00:28:52,599
me just seeing her and then and then it just

495
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,880
narrows down to me seeing her in that condition. Oh

496
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,319
my gosh. Yeah, I'm elevating it. It's it wasn't It

497
00:28:58,359 --> 00:28:59,720
wasn't an encounter. It was an event.

498
00:29:00,839 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: That's a good way to sum it up. I see

499
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,880
what you mean. Now, that does make sense. Now, it's

500
00:29:06,039 --> 00:29:09,920
clear that you definitely enjoy seeing her, But do you

501
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,279
think she enjoys seeing you?

502
00:29:13,119 --> 00:29:15,119
Speaker 2: Well, she's the one that came out of the woods.

503
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,839
She wasn't there when I pulled up, she approached me.

504
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,799
I wasn't looking. I wasn't even looking for her. She

505
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,759
stepped out, but she wasn't being real pronounced about it.

506
00:29:27,079 --> 00:29:31,000
She's being kind of stealthy, I think. But once she

507
00:29:31,079 --> 00:29:33,480
realized that I knew she was there, that's when she

508
00:29:33,519 --> 00:29:34,200
showed herself.

509
00:29:35,119 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: Well, as you know. I mean, dog men have walked

510
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,480
out of forests before and approached eye witnesses, not because

511
00:29:42,519 --> 00:29:45,119
they actually enjoyed seeing the people. They wanted to get

512
00:29:45,119 --> 00:29:47,440
a response out of them. So I was just trying

513
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,519
to get some clarity on if you thought that might

514
00:29:49,559 --> 00:29:51,960
be more of the case with her, or if she

515
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,640
actually was showing herself to you because she actually enjoyed

516
00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:55,920
interacting with you.

517
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,119
Speaker 2: I don't think there was any maliceon. She didn't make

518
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,000
any kind of aggressive movement towards me, and he didn't either.

519
00:30:06,119 --> 00:30:10,279
She wasn't giving off an air of aggression or concern

520
00:30:10,359 --> 00:30:13,599
because he wasn't reacting. If I was her enemy, if

521
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,359
she looked at me as her enemy, he would have reacted.

522
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,039
Speaker 1: Oh, no doubt about that. And I'm pretty sure he

523
00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:24,079
realized that you weren't any threat to either one of them.

524
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,839
But of course he's still.

525
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 2: Going to keep on you. He's got the upper hand.

526
00:30:28,359 --> 00:30:30,920
I mean, look, I mean compared to me. Yeah, you

527
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:37,519
don't have nothing to worry about. Shoot, yeah, I'd say.

528
00:30:39,559 --> 00:30:41,759
I didn't even have my PUPI with me that day,

529
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,440
So if he wouldn't have had any worries at all.

530
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: No, even if you had that, and I'm sure he

531
00:30:48,079 --> 00:30:51,000
knew that I am. Well, let's dive into some of

532
00:30:51,039 --> 00:30:54,440
these questions now. The first one is from Tisha's Watch,

533
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,240
and Titia wants to know, Kim if you've been able

534
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,960
to get any pictures of himber.

535
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,759
Speaker 2: No, no, no. I the first time I saw Ember,

536
00:31:06,039 --> 00:31:08,920
I was too stunned to take pictures of her. This

537
00:31:09,039 --> 00:31:13,640
time I didn't because I know better. I'm too afraid.

538
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,839
I was too afraid of scaring her away. I would

539
00:31:16,839 --> 00:31:18,880
love to have pictures ever, because can you imagine what

540
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,079
it's worth? But I just didn't want to scare her

541
00:31:23,119 --> 00:31:24,960
off because they know what cameras are.

542
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,319
Speaker 1: Yes they do. It's good you know that if you

543
00:31:28,319 --> 00:31:32,039
want to have future experiences with her, pulling out a camera,

544
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,119
that's the worst thing you could have done, because you

545
00:31:35,119 --> 00:31:38,440
probably wouldn't have ever seen her again. This next one's

546
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,200
from al Kirk and now wants to know, Kim, are

547
00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:44,279
you positive a personal encounter with Ember would not be

548
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:45,519
without its danger?

549
00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:51,119
Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, there's always potential for danger. I mean that's

550
00:31:51,119 --> 00:31:53,039
a given with these guys. You can't you know, you

551
00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:57,160
can't be that foolish about it and believe me, I

552
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,799
was ready to drive off on my rim. I wouldn't

553
00:31:59,799 --> 00:32:01,400
got very far. They would have caught up with me,

554
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,279
but I was ready to leave. I even started the

555
00:32:03,319 --> 00:32:06,240
car just in case I had to pull up, but

556
00:32:07,079 --> 00:32:09,160
I didn't. I just stayed there.

557
00:32:10,039 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good move covering your basis like that.

558
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,519
I'm glad you did that. This next one is from

559
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,319
Bigfoot Mama. Well that's a great name. She wants to know, Kim,

560
00:32:19,359 --> 00:32:21,440
what state are you in?

561
00:32:21,559 --> 00:32:22,079
Speaker 2: Kansas?

562
00:32:23,279 --> 00:32:26,759
Speaker 1: You shared that already, but she asked the question, so

563
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,960
I wanted to put that out there, ask her a question. Nonetheless.

564
00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:34,240
This next one is from truth Iris and truth Iris

565
00:32:34,279 --> 00:32:36,200
wants to know, what does your mom think?

566
00:32:39,119 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 2: I'm not sure she believes me. I'm kind of out

567
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,880
there anyway, won't We won't go into that, but I'm

568
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,200
always talking to her about everything and anything. I don't

569
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,799
know if she believes me or not. I mean, she

570
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,039
just kind of looks at me. I'm not sure she

571
00:32:54,079 --> 00:32:56,240
hasn't had an accounter as a child or a young

572
00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,880
person herself, but she really doesn't. I think she tries

573
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:05,359
to change the subject is basically what she knows well.

574
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,519
Speaker 1: She might try to change the subject for one of

575
00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:11,480
two reasons. She might be uncomfortable thinking about the possibility

576
00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:13,640
that what you're telling her is true. What she should know,

577
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,880
You're not going to lie to her, But that might

578
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,279
be the reason behind her trying to switch the channel,

579
00:33:19,359 --> 00:33:26,160
so to speak. Also, too, maybe she's had experiences. Also

580
00:33:26,319 --> 00:33:28,920
you talked about the one that happened late that night,

581
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,720
but maybe more has gone on around her home that

582
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,319
you don't know about. It's hard to.

583
00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:37,799
Speaker 2: Say, yeah, possibility.

584
00:33:38,759 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: You never know, you really don't. This next question is

585
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,079
from Alicia Losier, and she wants to know do you

586
00:33:46,119 --> 00:33:48,519
think she remembered you from the last time you saw

587
00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:49,039
each other?

588
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: Yes, I honestly do I think I do. I think

589
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,799
she remembers me, And besides, in my heart, that's what

590
00:33:57,839 --> 00:33:59,400
I like what I'd like to think.

591
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet she does. I bet good money on that.

592
00:34:04,119 --> 00:34:06,680
Bang Bang wants to know, Kim, do you think these

593
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:07,759
are evil? Dog men.

594
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 2: Do I think they're youthful evil? Oh? Evil? No, I don't.

595
00:34:16,559 --> 00:34:19,639
I don't have any reason to think that they're evil.

596
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:24,960
Of course, I've always been lary of uh, you know,

597
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,559
I vict knows I live, I have woods behind me.

598
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,440
I've always been lary of one of them is showing

599
00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:37,760
up here. But I haven't seen anything to indicate any

600
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,159
kind of evil. I didn't even feel any mouse or

601
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:40,960
evil from them.

602
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: And if they were evil, they've had their chances to

603
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,320
do you in and do other things too.

604
00:34:47,039 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 2: They had well, they could have had. They could have

605
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,119
had me and the Triple A guy.

606
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:54,159
Speaker 1: They sure could have. That's right, it's good you understand that.

607
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,840
This next one is from Bang Bang and they want

608
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,599
to know, Kim, if you found any kind of nest.

609
00:35:02,159 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 2: Nest. No, no, I haven't been. I haven't been rurally

610
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,800
cross country to find anything like that. But that would

611
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:10,679
be so cool.

612
00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 1: Yes, it would be. There was another question related to that.

613
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,239
I'm gonna scroll and see if I can't find it,

614
00:35:20,159 --> 00:35:23,880
where a guest asked a question about a gift. Yeah,

615
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,440
there we go. It's from Aerial Dark Star and they

616
00:35:27,519 --> 00:35:29,719
want to know if you found a seashell. She might

617
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,800
have left for you.

618
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 2: No, I haven't looked, and I don't. I don't know

619
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,880
where they would leave something like that, because would they

620
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:44,199
be coming here to my home? Maybe at my mom's house,

621
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,199
you know, that would probably be the more likely place

622
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:54,320
that they would leave something. We have what we did

623
00:35:54,360 --> 00:36:01,440
have some strange evergreens show up her backyard back by

624
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,840
the far fence a couple months ago, and we couldn't

625
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,480
forget where they had come from because there wasn't a

626
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,519
tree like that around. I had had forgot all about that,

627
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,159
but everybody was like, where in the hell could of

628
00:36:14,159 --> 00:36:17,559
those come from? So maybe that was my nest. I

629
00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:19,320
don't know. I had just remembered that.

630
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: Huh. Yeah, they might have been behind that. It's hard

631
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,840
to say. Christina easter Day has got a good question.

632
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,239
She wants to know, do you think Himber knows you're

633
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,000
a safe place for her, like when deer come in

634
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,800
our field during hunting season.

635
00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, I'm a high believer in vibration

636
00:36:38,559 --> 00:36:43,400
and energy and thought patterns and telepathy and mind speak,

637
00:36:43,559 --> 00:36:46,199
which I've not experienced that I know of from these guys.

638
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,840
So if anybody's going to ask that, I'm answering that now,

639
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,000
But I totally think that she just knows. I mean,

640
00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:54,400
these guys are so more advanced in such a different

641
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,880
way than we are. I really think she knows. I

642
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,760
mean they it's just like, okay, my dogs. If my

643
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,639
dogs like a person, I know that's a good person.

644
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,159
So why wouldn't these guys have an even higher version

645
00:37:09,199 --> 00:37:14,760
of that judgment than what a normal canine does. So

646
00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:20,159
they should be able to tell. And I solely believe

647
00:37:20,199 --> 00:37:21,119
they can tell.

648
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just might be able to Who knows what

649
00:37:25,039 --> 00:37:28,679
the extent of their abilities are, so yeah, that's definitely

650
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,000
a possibility. It looks like the next one is from

651
00:37:32,159 --> 00:37:35,119
The Wicked sixty nine and they want to know how

652
00:37:35,159 --> 00:37:36,599
smart you think dog men are.

653
00:37:39,679 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 2: I sort of kind of already touched on that. I

654
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,920
think they're highly intelligent. I think they're intelligence is on

655
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,360
a different level than ours and in a different way

656
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,679
because they are in nature and they have all of

657
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,119
the abilities and to survive in nature. So I think

658
00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:00,280
that they are highly intelligent in that manner. Course, of course,

659
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,000
they live around us. We don't see them. They skirt us,

660
00:38:04,159 --> 00:38:06,199
you know, they're always out there looking at us. We

661
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,960
don't see them, So that's a level of intelligence that

662
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,039
you have to admire right there, just in itself, just

663
00:38:13,039 --> 00:38:13,639
by itself.

664
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: I agree, that's a good way to sum it up.

665
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,719
It looks like be kind is the next question. She

666
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,280
wants to know, Kim, have you ever noticed a shift

667
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,920
in barometric pressure or odd sense before? I think she

668
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,119
wants to know if you've had an odd sense before

669
00:38:29,119 --> 00:38:31,559
you knave of your encounters.

670
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:39,559
Speaker 2: No. I am highly tuned into barometric pressure because it

671
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:44,440
causes me migraine, headaches, and other illness type things. So no,

672
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,599
I haven't encountered that with these guys.

673
00:38:46,679 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: Know. Well, yeah, sounds like you are sensitive to that. Then.

674
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's an app on There's an android app. It's

675
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,360
called weather X and that's what I was going to

676
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,880
tell Jared about. It tells you the barometri pressure every day.

677
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: Yep, so you would know, you definitely would.

678
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 2: I keep an eye on it?

679
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:11,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds like you do. The truth wants to

680
00:39:11,079 --> 00:39:13,320
know if you're planning a baby shower for him or

681
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,079
maybe a special meal.

682
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: You know, Uh, I don't know. That might be a

683
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,360
cool idea to leave something down there where I saw

684
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,239
an that's a good idea, not a baby shower, But

685
00:39:30,559 --> 00:39:32,760
I might leave something special. But like I said, I

686
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,719
need to get somebody to go back with me and

687
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,159
to get my son convinced that this is a real thing,

688
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,000
is a work of art in progress.

689
00:39:41,039 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: Is he close to coming around or is he crossing

690
00:39:44,039 --> 00:39:45,119
his arms and saying no one.

691
00:39:45,199 --> 00:39:48,519
Speaker 2: Well, he's close to coming around. He's got a lot

692
00:39:48,559 --> 00:39:53,599
of odd, unusual, diverse, open minded things of his own,

693
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,320
So I think I've got him convinced. I just wish

694
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,039
somebody would be with me when I saw I do.

695
00:40:01,159 --> 00:40:03,599
I wish, I wish I had an eyewitness.

696
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,199
Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure it's not lost on you that if

697
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:07,920
you have someone else with you, the odds of you

698
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,039
actually seeing her again are pretty slight.

699
00:40:11,679 --> 00:40:14,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I have her trust, You're right, and then

700
00:40:14,199 --> 00:40:16,599
I may never see her again because then she might

701
00:40:16,639 --> 00:40:17,639
not trust me anymore.

702
00:40:18,519 --> 00:40:23,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. You never know. Goes to UFO wants

703
00:40:23,199 --> 00:40:29,800
to know, what do you think Imbert thinks about you?

704
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 2: No, I never thought about that. I am another female,

705
00:40:35,199 --> 00:40:38,360
and I'm an older female, so she might look at

706
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,800
me as more of a mother type because I know

707
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,639
she knows I'm I'm a senior citizen because I am,

708
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,679
and I know they're smart enough so she might that

709
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,679
maybe why she trusts me because she knows I'm an

710
00:40:51,679 --> 00:40:55,719
older female, And I think that's maybe maybe that's why

711
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:56,639
she's attracted to me.

712
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:02,159
Speaker 1: That might be, It just might be. See who was

713
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,360
to have this question? Yeah? There it is a great

714
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,559
question from Titia's watch. She wants to know, do you

715
00:41:09,559 --> 00:41:13,400
think she might come back to show you her young Well?

716
00:41:13,679 --> 00:41:18,199
Speaker 2: I can only hope, can I. Vick and I talked

717
00:41:18,199 --> 00:41:21,840
about that, And when I first saw her the first time,

718
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,280
somebody asked me that do I did I think that

719
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:30,239
Ember would show me her pups? And I would? I

720
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,400
would love to see her pups, and I would. I would.

721
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,679
I'm putting that out mentally. So maybe she'll catch it.

722
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,840
Maybe maybe I will get the chance to see them.

723
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,039
Wouldn't that be something?

724
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sure would be. You never know, you might

725
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,639
see the baby. It's hard to say. I've got another

726
00:41:47,679 --> 00:41:52,880
great question for you from truth Iris. There we go.

727
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,079
They want to know we're able to distinguish around her

728
00:41:56,159 --> 00:42:00,920
vertical pupil, that.

729
00:42:01,039 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 2: Her pupils are round. Yeah.

730
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,519
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever heard an eyewitness, a credible eyewitness,

731
00:42:07,559 --> 00:42:10,559
ever say that they saw elliptical pupils like a snake.

732
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,760
It's always been round pupils, so that fits.

733
00:42:14,039 --> 00:42:16,679
Speaker 2: Well, she's not reptilian, she's the mammal.

734
00:42:17,559 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: Well, neither are cats house cats, but yeah, they have

735
00:42:20,519 --> 00:42:21,920
elliptical pupils as well.

736
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, but they're also cats. These are canine.

737
00:42:26,159 --> 00:42:29,199
Speaker 1: Yeah that's true. Well, foxes have elliptical pupils.

738
00:42:30,559 --> 00:42:33,639
Speaker 2: Now they aren't. Fox is a whole different branch. They're

739
00:42:33,639 --> 00:42:37,559
not descended from wolves. They're around. If they change, I'll

740
00:42:37,639 --> 00:42:37,960
let you know.

741
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,119
Speaker 1: Hopefully it won't change. Hopefully it's going to just stay

742
00:42:42,159 --> 00:42:46,360
the same. Bang Bang wants to know if Imber has

743
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:47,519
ever smiled at you.

744
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,559
Speaker 2: The first time I saw her, she smiled at me,

745
00:42:54,639 --> 00:42:56,320
And when she did that, that's what I had to

746
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,960
leave because I didn't know how to take it. She

747
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,960
had this big old air of the teeth grin.

748
00:43:02,119 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure you did not to take that. Yeah, that's

749
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,559
hard to process when you sell those big shirt teeth

750
00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:13,039
Andras Curizalez is the next question. He wants to know

751
00:43:13,679 --> 00:43:16,360
the meal you saw with her. Have you seen him

752
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,400
before or is he new for you to see.

753
00:43:19,559 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 2: He's new for me to see, but he could have

754
00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:25,199
been in the group that I saw crossing the field.

755
00:43:26,119 --> 00:43:28,920
That day. He could have been one of those. But

756
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,440
as far as I'm concerned, he's he's something new. He's

757
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,360
a big guy call black. It's scary. As scary as

758
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,440
I'll get out. I do have a I have a

759
00:43:44,519 --> 00:43:48,280
much more ingrained fear of them now because of his appearance,

760
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:54,599
not because of any action. But I've always been leary

761
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,960
of them, But now that I've seen him, you know she,

762
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,320
but he didn't know anything. So he's in us. He's

763
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,800
still innocent, innocent, and she'll proven guilty.

764
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure he does look like he's playing for keeps.

765
00:44:08,199 --> 00:44:11,280
I don't doubt that at all. Christine the Easter Day

766
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,800
wants to know if you've named that Maile dog Mayet.

767
00:44:15,079 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 2: No, No, I just call him big guy.

768
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: Well that's an accurate name for him. It's fitting. It

769
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,039
looks like Joel Marlin wants to know. Do you think

770
00:44:26,079 --> 00:44:29,880
maybe she's aware you share about her with other humans,

771
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,400
like maybe she wants you to educate fellow humans.

772
00:44:35,079 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 2: Actually, that's a very unique thought, right there. I hadn't

773
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,199
thought about that, So I'm going to say no, I

774
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,440
hadn't thought that, But that was really cool for you

775
00:44:47,519 --> 00:44:49,199
to come up with that.

776
00:44:49,199 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 1: That is a good question. It definitely is. Let's see

777
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,199
looking for another good one. You've got one here from

778
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,079
be kind. She wants to know, Kim. Are you a

779
00:44:59,199 --> 00:45:04,119
sensitive their voyant pick up on paranormal activities RH negative?

780
00:45:04,199 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not RH negative, but I do pick up

781
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,960
on paranormal I have a history of paranormal which I

782
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,960
haven't opened up to Vic about. And I am an EmPATH.

783
00:45:15,039 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I've got a sneaking suspicion that plays into

784
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:19,760
all these encounters you've had.

785
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 2: And l.

786
00:45:23,039 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 1: Wants you to know that he would definitely or she

787
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,079
would definitely go with you if they could laugh out loud.

788
00:45:32,559 --> 00:45:33,519
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you.

789
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 1: Be careful what you wish for. You might come to

790
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:42,320
regret that Kurt Schlichting wants to know Kim. Have you

791
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:43,800
tried mine speak?

792
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 2: Have I tried mine speak? I have to admit that

793
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,519
while I was sitting there looking at her, I called

794
00:45:54,519 --> 00:45:59,920
her name once and I don't know how to explain it.

795
00:46:00,159 --> 00:46:02,599
I can't think of a way to explain this. But

796
00:46:03,119 --> 00:46:08,079
I was sitting there, uh, thinking things like are you

797
00:46:08,119 --> 00:46:11,119
gonna come any closer? You know? What do you what

798
00:46:11,159 --> 00:46:13,760
do you want? Why are you here? And and you

799
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,760
know you're you're you're beautiful, and I'm happy for you,

800
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,280
those kind of things. But I was just thinking those things.

801
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,280
I wasn't really aiming them at her, trying to converse

802
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,400
with her. And of course I hadn't seen him yet.

803
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,119
I wouldn't have been that frivalent if I had seen

804
00:46:29,199 --> 00:46:31,679
him when I since I saw him, my guy, a

805
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:32,599
little bit terrified.

806
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 1: I can understand what you did. Yeah, definitely. I can't

807
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,679
remem if I asked you this question or not from

808
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,000
al Kirk, but he wanted to know, do you think

809
00:46:42,039 --> 00:46:44,239
you might be driving close to a den site?

810
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, I do. I think I'm real close to

811
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,360
a den site because of the five I saw that

812
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,960
that family group, and then these two have shown up,

813
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,280
and they're obviously a family themselves, so there's got to

814
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,519
be ad in sight somewhere. They even if they travel

815
00:47:03,519 --> 00:47:07,159
like Vic and everybody that knows these guys better than

816
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,000
I do, say they travel around and make circuits. Well,

817
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,320
they've got to have normal, regular places that they stop off.

818
00:47:14,039 --> 00:47:16,239
So I would say there's a dinner around there somewhere,

819
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,159
and I'm probably driving right by it.

820
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,519
Speaker 1: It just might be you never know, wouldn't that be

821
00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:25,480
something yeah, and this is touching on a comment they

822
00:47:25,519 --> 00:47:28,559
made just a bit ago Llo wants you to know, Kim,

823
00:47:28,599 --> 00:47:31,719
I think after Ember has her baby, she's going to

824
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,880
show it off to you. Laugh out loud. Who knows.

825
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,760
Maybe they want to adopt you into their klan, laugh

826
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:38,360
out loud.

827
00:47:39,519 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 2: Oh boy, Okay, I'd love to see the baby, but

828
00:47:44,079 --> 00:47:45,199
I don't want to be adopted.

829
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,199
Speaker 1: You don't want to be adopted into their clan. That

830
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,679
wouldn't be a good scene.

831
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,599
Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't last to day. Probably, I'd

832
00:47:54,599 --> 00:47:55,800
probably wind up as lunch.

833
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,559
Speaker 1: Hopefully wouldn't come to that. I don't think it would.

834
00:48:00,159 --> 00:48:02,559
I don't think it would because, like I've said before,

835
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,320
these guys don't have any trouble feeding themselves at all.

836
00:48:05,679 --> 00:48:07,559
I mean, I think they feed themselves like it's going

837
00:48:07,639 --> 00:48:10,480
out of style. If you think mountain lions are deer

838
00:48:10,599 --> 00:48:13,239
killing machines, these guys would make them look like rank

839
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:14,599
amateurs in my opinion.

840
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. As stealthy as they are, I don't know why

841
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,920
they can't just walk up and swipe at the deer

842
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,920
and get them, because they sure are stealthy. And that

843
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,760
big guy, he didn't make a noise I didn't even

844
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,000
know he turned around and left the tree until she

845
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,599
just she walked under the limb, and I was looking

846
00:48:35,599 --> 00:48:39,159
in the looking in that area. He was gone. He

847
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:43,440
had just disappeared, just as silent as he had shown up.

848
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 1: I'm sure it seemed like he was gone, but I'll

849
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,360
bet you give money he was still there watching you.

850
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 2: Well, he wanted her to go. He was done because

851
00:48:54,679 --> 00:48:56,760
she started to move towards me. He made a noise.

852
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,400
She turned around, looked at him, and then that was it.

853
00:48:58,519 --> 00:48:59,280
She was ready to go.

854
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet he couldn't get her out of there

855
00:49:02,079 --> 00:49:05,679
soon enough. I'll bet you're rained. Bang Bang wants to know.

856
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,119
Do you think she goes to your mom's house, which

857
00:49:08,119 --> 00:49:10,559
you touched on that at the start of the show.

858
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 2: I've never had any indication of it until now because

859
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,599
every time I well, let's let me think about that.

860
00:49:19,159 --> 00:49:21,280
The first time I saw her, I was going to Mom's.

861
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,400
The second time I saw the family group, I was

862
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,360
headed home from Moms. When I saw the one crossed

863
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,719
the road, I was going home from Moms. This is

864
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,360
only the second time I've been headed for my mother's.

865
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:38,159
And she did have that noise that night, which we know,

866
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,639
we don't know what it was. I'm kind of hoping not,

867
00:49:42,519 --> 00:49:45,519
but yeah, I think it's a good possibility because that's

868
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,039
where I was headed the other day, so they know

869
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:49,360
they know that's where I go.

870
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll beg good money. They have followed you there,

871
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,760
and if that's the case, if they know where she lives,

872
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,800
then yeah, it would make sense. They probably have Peter

873
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:02,679
some visits. So I'll bet you're right on that. Alicia

874
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,280
Lozier wants to know any guests, based on size perspective,

875
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:07,760
how many buns were in the oven.

876
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 2: Like I said, she was about the size of a

877
00:50:14,039 --> 00:50:18,960
seventh month human, and not being able to determine how

878
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:24,400
far along she actually is, I can't really make an

879
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:31,400
educated statement about that. But the few encounters I've heard,

880
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,519
not only on Vick's show but on some others, most

881
00:50:35,519 --> 00:50:38,760
of the time there's at least two that are together.

882
00:50:39,559 --> 00:50:43,760
There's usually two. I've heard of as many as four,

883
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:52,239
but it's usually two. And most of the time dogs

884
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:57,000
have regular dogs have. If you think about it, most

885
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,119
of the litters are even. They're either two, four, six, eight.

886
00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:03,239
I know they're odd numbers, but they're not usually even.

887
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,519
So I'm figuring it's two, just because just out of

888
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:12,559
you know, just the few things I've heard, well.

889
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,679
Speaker 1: That would make sense. You're having more than two dog

890
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,159
Me and puffs. That's really got to be awfully draining

891
00:51:18,199 --> 00:51:21,039
on a female. So I doubt that would ever happen.

892
00:51:21,159 --> 00:51:25,079
But you never know, humans have more than two sometimes,

893
00:51:25,159 --> 00:51:29,639
So who's to say? It looks like Beth Ferguson has

894
00:51:29,679 --> 00:51:32,760
a comment for you. She's saying in her comment, I'm

895
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,960
an EmPATH in medium. I had a werewolf slash dog

896
00:51:36,039 --> 00:51:38,360
me in mind speak with me. I could always feel

897
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,719
as energy. How did the energy feel for you when

898
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,639
you had your encounters?

899
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 2: She's right, I could feel her energy. That is how

900
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:51,880
I actually noticed her. It was more like I felt

901
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,920
something and I and I saw the movement, and she

902
00:51:56,639 --> 00:52:01,519
was hiding from me when I first found her, saw her,

903
00:52:01,639 --> 00:52:05,679
noticed her, but I felt her. Yeah, I felt it. Well, okay, well,

904
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:11,360
these guys, you know how everything does, Everything goes still, quiet, dead,

905
00:52:13,599 --> 00:52:15,760
That's kind of what it was. So, but but I

906
00:52:16,119 --> 00:52:19,599
felt that there was something there. I felt her. I

907
00:52:19,599 --> 00:52:21,719
didn't know it was her till I visually laid eyes

908
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,800
on her, but I felt her presence. I knew there

909
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:25,719
was something there.

910
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, you must be a sensitive then. Andras Currizalez wants

911
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,599
to know, do you think if Imber does bring the

912
00:52:34,639 --> 00:52:39,000
young one around, that the Meal will scout you first?

913
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:50,639
Speaker 2: Hmm. He didn't show much interest in me. I think

914
00:52:50,639 --> 00:52:54,559
he was just uh, I think he was just humoring her.

915
00:52:55,679 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, like we've already established, he knows you're not

916
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,960
a threat. He wanted to just maybe evaluate you further,

917
00:53:02,079 --> 00:53:05,000
but he knows, as intelligent as they are, he knows

918
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,679
that you're not a threat. Kurt Schlichting has a question

919
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,880
about that Meal. He wants to know if you can

920
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,920
describe him in the other details about him that you

921
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,679
can tell us about as far as his appearance.

922
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 2: Well, he was behind a tree, so there's a quite

923
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,559
a bit of him. I couldn't see. I could see.

924
00:53:22,599 --> 00:53:27,320
I saw his genitalia, his tummy. I could see one.

925
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,519
He had one. Let's see, it would have been at

926
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,159
his left arm. He had his left arm wrapped around

927
00:53:32,159 --> 00:53:35,519
the tree. I could see his left left claws, his

928
00:53:35,639 --> 00:53:39,000
hand and claws. The other one was up on the

929
00:53:39,039 --> 00:53:42,000
limb he was holding onto the tree. He had one

930
00:53:42,079 --> 00:53:44,719
arm wrapped around the trunk of the tree and the

931
00:53:44,159 --> 00:53:47,440
other arm was up on the limb, but I couldn't

932
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,079
see the one that was on the limb because it

933
00:53:49,119 --> 00:53:52,480
was like along the limb behind it. He was really,

934
00:53:52,519 --> 00:53:56,679
really really covered in foliage. It's like he was peeking

935
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,960
over the limb of the tree and he was framed

936
00:54:00,159 --> 00:54:04,239
in leaves. I could. I could see his face. I could,

937
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,320
and I saw his midsection. I couldn't really see a

938
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,960
whole lot of his legs. I saw his knees, but

939
00:54:11,039 --> 00:54:14,360
I couldn't see the the bottom the way he was

940
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,400
standing at where he was standing, because it was it

941
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,400
was kind of downhill and he was behind shrubbery. He

942
00:54:19,519 --> 00:54:22,599
was very very well concealed, so I can't give him

943
00:54:22,639 --> 00:54:27,920
any details about him. He had a white his head

944
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,360
was wide. He had a white head. He didn't have

945
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,400
that long, slender snout like some of them knew. His

946
00:54:33,639 --> 00:54:37,400
was more of a wide I like, what kind of

947
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,760
kind of dug And I can hear him too, like a.

948
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,599
Speaker 1: Chow when they want to conceal themselves or masters it

949
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,559
doing it. So it's no wonder you weren't able to

950
00:54:47,559 --> 00:54:48,280
get a good luck.

951
00:54:49,519 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 2: No, he wasn't. He wasn't. He wasn't showing him stuff

952
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,519
to me. He was keeping an eye on Ember and

953
00:54:54,639 --> 00:54:55,519
making sure she was.

954
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,559
Speaker 1: Safe and following her around. I'm sure that's pretty much

955
00:54:59,599 --> 00:55:03,480
all he does us now. Bang Bang made a donation,

956
00:55:03,679 --> 00:55:05,719
and I want to thank you so much for doing that,

957
00:55:06,039 --> 00:55:10,719
for supporting the show. I really appreciate it. And I've

958
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,599
got another question for you from be Kind. They want

959
00:55:14,599 --> 00:55:18,440
to know, Kim, can you explain the difference between barometric

960
00:55:18,519 --> 00:55:20,920
pressure shift and sensing energy shift.

961
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:30,039
Speaker 2: Barometric pressure that causes me to have pressure in my head.

962
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:35,519
Energy shift is more a whole body feeling.

963
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've experienced both so many times that at

964
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,639
the snap of a finger you know which one is which.

965
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:45,679
Speaker 2: Well, I know how to I know how to ward.

966
00:55:47,119 --> 00:55:53,639
I know how to ward against energy. So being an EmPATH,

967
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:55,760
you have to learn how to ward in order to

968
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,519
protect yourself or you get a lot of you. You

969
00:55:58,519 --> 00:56:02,400
you absorb other people's emotions and you just kind of

970
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,360
get on a roller coaster and it can make you

971
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,639
just a little bit crazy. But yeah, it's totally different.

972
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:14,159
It's the barometric pressure and actual energy. It's just totally different.

973
00:56:15,159 --> 00:56:18,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to take your word on that, because yeah,

974
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,679
I wouldn't know. I wouldn't now that you know that

975
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,639
she's pregnant. It's obviously you spend a lot of time

976
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,239
going up and down those roads in that area. How

977
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,119
much more often are you going to be in that

978
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,960
area to try and keep an eye out and maybe

979
00:56:32,519 --> 00:56:35,000
keep some form of tabs on iimber.

980
00:56:36,199 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 2: I think probably what I'll do is there are several

981
00:56:41,039 --> 00:56:44,480
roads that I can still get to where I need

982
00:56:44,519 --> 00:56:47,360
to go that kind of go around different areas there

983
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,280
without going out of the area. That's probably what the

984
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,159
tack I'm going to take is, I'll just take a

985
00:56:52,159 --> 00:56:56,199
different road each time I go. I have no reason

986
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,840
to go that way anymore than I already do unless

987
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:01,880
I was just looking for her, And I really don't

988
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,239
have that frivolity or time to just be out looking

989
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,519
for Ember. But I definitely I have opera glasses and

990
00:57:08,559 --> 00:57:12,840
I have my binoculars both in the car, so I

991
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,159
definitely am going to start looking for them. Every little movement,

992
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,880
everything that's just out of ordinary or a CE I'll

993
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:21,280
be checking out.

994
00:57:22,239 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: Well, you're obviously on high alert before I'm sure it's

995
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:29,719
going to be times ten now, so that's understandable. Truth

996
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,360
IRIS has the last question of the night. They want

997
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:37,039
to know, do you believe they're supernatural, they'reo a supernatural

998
00:57:37,159 --> 00:57:39,760
order or strictly flesh and blood.

999
00:57:40,719 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 2: I think they're flesh and blood, but they have the

1000
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:50,280
ability to go between dimensions, That's what I think.

1001
00:57:51,199 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just might be right to a lot of

1002
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:56,400
people believe that, So you never know, that just might

1003
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,199
be the keys. Well, before we get out, if you're

1004
00:57:59,239 --> 00:58:01,480
a Kim, we have any closing comments you'd like to

1005
00:58:01,519 --> 00:58:06,800
put out there for us, Just.

1006
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,239
Speaker 2: Keep your head on a swivel. You just never know

1007
00:58:10,239 --> 00:58:12,360
what you're going to see or who you're going to

1008
00:58:12,559 --> 00:58:14,280
run into, or what you're going to encounter and what

1009
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:15,920
kind of relationship it'll run into.

1010
00:58:17,119 --> 00:58:20,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's always really good advice. Well, like I told

1011
00:58:20,239 --> 00:58:22,480
you before, Kim, I can't thank you enough for coming

1012
00:58:22,519 --> 00:58:25,360
back on to update us on this most recent experience

1013
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,039
or I should say event events a better way to

1014
00:58:28,079 --> 00:58:31,039
put it. I'm with you on that, but yeah, please

1015
00:58:31,079 --> 00:58:32,960
remember if you ever need any help in the future,

1016
00:58:33,039 --> 00:58:35,840
always be there for you. And hopefully you are going

1017
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,119
to have some updates for us in the future. You

1018
00:58:38,239 --> 00:58:38,559
never know.

1019
00:58:39,679 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 2: I can only hope.

1020
00:58:41,559 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully, so hopefully you will. Well, like I said,

1021
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,119
thanks against so much for your time and have a

1022
00:58:47,119 --> 00:58:51,079
great night. Well that's another one in the books. Like

1023
00:58:51,119 --> 00:58:53,760
I've told you multiple times, I can't thank you all

1024
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,480
enough for supporting the eyewitnesses, the what you do and

1025
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,199
for supporting the show. Thank you so much. And if

1026
00:59:00,239 --> 00:59:02,239
you've had a dog Meann encounter that you'd like to

1027
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,000
speak with me about in private, or maybe you'd want

1028
00:59:05,039 --> 00:59:06,519
to come on the show and share it with all

1029
00:59:06,559 --> 00:59:09,480
the other listeners. If you want to do either one

1030
00:59:09,519 --> 00:59:13,000
of those things, then please go to Dogmanencounters dot com

1031
00:59:13,119 --> 00:59:15,599
submit a report and if you do that, if you

1032
00:59:15,639 --> 00:59:18,960
fully complete the report, then I'll contact you. I'll reach

1033
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,920
out to you to schedule a film conversation so we

1034
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:25,199
can take it from there. But having said that, thanks

1035
00:59:25,239 --> 00:59:27,880
again so much for listening and have a great night.