Speaker 2: At a book.
Speaker 1: Hey everyone, thanks so much for joining us for this
special midweek episode of the show. I really appreciate you
showing up and tuning in. On episodes three ninety nine
and four eighty eight, tonight's guest came on and told
us about multiple encounters she had with a female dog
me in her I guess I should say a dog
woman that she affectionately calls Imber. Well, not too long ago.
It was actually in July she reached out to me
to let me know that she had had another experience
with Imber and she was wanting to know if I'd
like to get a full update on what happened. So
of course I said, yeah, I definitely would, And of
course we scheduled the time for the film conversation where
she could do that bring me up to speed, and
she was just going detail by detail through. When once
she shared a particular detail about that experience, it just
blew me away. It really did. It blew her away
when she noticed what she told me about and what
she consequently is going to pass along to you. Well
enough one to find details like that. Let's just bring
her in here now so we can get down to
brass tacks and have Kim tell us about what's happened.
Tonight's guest is Kim Kim. Thanks so much for coming.
Speaker 2: Back, Hivick and the rest of the dog Man Encounters
Radio family.
Speaker 1: Kim, you've been How should I put it? I just
say you've become a show celebrity in a big sense.
I mean, people have been looking forward to you coming
back and given these updates on this most recent experience.
Speaker 2: I think that just comes from the fact that my
encounter has been more pleasant and than a lot of
what the other people have gone through. I've not had
the terrors that other people have.
Speaker 1: Well, I see that as being a great thing for
more reason than one. Lately, there's been a stretch of
bad encounters. Eyewitnesses have been sharing with me. It's been bad.
I mean they've been really traumatized by them, and understandably
so if you knew what they went through with these encounters,
Like I said, they're particularly traumatic experiences. Of course, there's
the one I told you about I told the listeners
about where the eyewitness said that he has felt tortured
up until present day about his encounter because of what
happened that experience. Other experiences when you came along, you
came along at the right time, because yeah, I mean,
you can kind of get down in the dunk when
you're exposed to so many negative experiences. But when you
came along in July to give me the good news
about what happened when you had your experience, I needed that.
So I didn't tell you all this background info. But yeah,
it was really a good thing when you did that.
Speaker 2: Well, the only reason that you heard from me, it
was because of Cody's show. You had reached out to
me to tell me about Cody's show, and I was like, well,
I'll just tell you where I've been recently and what
I've been having go on.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you did. Foreyone who isn't putting two
and two together. Cody's the eyewitness of Kim on recently
to tell us about his experiences with Sasha, the dog
woman that's been hanging around his rural property. That's what
Kim's talking about. Kim, for any of the listeners who
missed episodes three ninety nine and four eighty eight, please
tell us about yourself, and then also please tell them
the cliff Notes version of the experiences came one of
those two shows and told us about.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm basically a retired nurse, which is temporary because
of a health issue. But I'm a vibrational sound therapist,
which is kind of an odd thing. We won't we
won't expand on that single. I live in a motor
home and I go back and forth to Mounern Springs, Kansas,
from Kansas City, Kansas to my mother's and that's the
area that I have had all my and and run
ends with Amber. I don't know, uh vic. My first
encounter was when I was sixteen and I was out
one summer night with my little country boyfriend and we
had a huge male dog man crossed the road in
front of us, and I thought I was looking at
Satan at that point in time, because I had no
idea what they were. I had never heard of them,
and there were a lot of rumors going on, and
that was back when the Satanic panic was going on.
He was about ten foot tall and he was a
little bit frightening, but he crossed in front of us
and then went together side of the road, and I
could it was everything I could do to get the
man in the truck to keep driving and get away
from this creature, but it just stood there and looked
at us, did nothing but stand there and look at us.
I had a pretty good view of him, but I
described him in that show. I'm not going to describe
him again. I'm just giving you a kind of a
thumbnail version of this. And fast forward to about a
year ago, last spring and fall. I was coming and
going to my mother's lot, and that's the first time
I saw Ember. I was just meandering along a road
that day side road out where I usually drive through,
and I heard footsteps in the leaves, and I thought
maybe it was somebody on a horse. But it wasn't
four feet it was two, and it was amber. She.
I think I startled her as much as she startled me.
Of course, I was shocked. And I stood there and
looked at her for a few minutes, and after she
bared her teeth at me, I left drove away. About
two weeks after that, I was in the same area
and in the distance along a backfield, I saw what
I thought were five of them in various sizes, and
I was thinking that maybe was her and her family,
because it was just within like two weeks time when
I did see those again, and then recently I had
encountered her again in the same area. The anything west
of where they are is pretty well more rural than east,
and they're staying in the same area. She's about two
miles from where I saw her the first time. Right now,
that's when I saw her this time, Victor, you want
me to just tell the story.
Speaker 1: Not yet. I've got a few more questions for you,
such as, how did you come up with such a
great name for that's perfect Ember?
Speaker 2: Amber? Okay, Well, honestly I had I had Pomeranian puppies
at one point in time, and there was one little
puppy that was colored almost just like her, and the
lady that adopted her named her Ember. So this little
this little dog lady looked like that puppy in color,
not not in cute, her size, just in color. That's
how I came up with the name Ember. I also
have a honorary granddaughter named Emberlin. So Amber just was
just a good name.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a great name for it really is.
I'm impressed.
Speaker 2: It was mostly her eyes amongst the ash color of
he fur, those bright, bright yellow golden eyes amongst the
ash color of fur, like an Ember that's still burning.
You know.
Speaker 1: Well, that's witty. Like I said, that is a great
name for before you have this most recent encounter in July.
Do you been thinking about her much?
Speaker 2: Oh? Every time I drive through there, I'm down that
way at least two to three times a week, and
i go the exact same route every time, and I'm
always looking.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, that is a lot of effort to try
and see her. Do you subscribe to the idea that
by thinking about her as much as you have been
that maybe you made it more likely that you actually would.
Speaker 2: I'm tending to lean towards that. Now. That wasn't something
that I had become sure of, but that's very much
what I'm leaning towards thinking these days. Yes, after what
happened to the other what happened to July.
Speaker 1: Definitely, if you're somewhat closed mind, it's all too easy
to think that there's no possibility that obsessing on something
could affect your chances of encountering it again. But this
world is a strange place, It operates in strange ways.
Maybe there is something to that. Maybe it did increase the.
Speaker 2: Well. As I said, I'm a vibrational sound therapist. I
believe energy and vibrations motivate and drive everything, So it
makes perfect sense to me to think that thoughts can
cause actions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just might be right on that. Who's to
say that you're not considering the fact that you've had
three sightings of her? Do you think that it might
be connected to her on some level? I?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I begin to think I am. Now. It took
me a while of studying the other encounters and listening
to other people to accept that that might be a
possible because I rejected it originally, But I'm thinking along
those lines now too.
Speaker 1: Yes, Well, this whole dog manner, I guess I should
say dog woman thing was so new to you. Of
course you rejected it. Almost anyone would. It's so much
more comfortable to live in your in life when everything
is predictable and everything is how it's supposed to be.
But if you have an experience like the ones you've had,
then yes, it's only natural that you're going to cling
to some normalcy, at least for a certain period of time.
So yeah, that's totally expected. How comfortable are you, Kim
being around her? Now?
Speaker 2: Well? I would be comfortable with her, but you know
she has that companion now, so he was a whole
different I've got it kind of a Larry feeling about
that now her, No, I actually think that she would
walk up to me, but she's never had that chance.
And but I once I tell a story, they'll understand
what I'm what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you said, especially with him around, that's not
going to happen, all right, Kim. Please? Oh I'm sorry, no,
So go ahead, Well, please tell us about this latest encounter. Now,
give us every last detail that comes to mind.
Speaker 2: Oh, for heaven's sakes. It was mid July. We had
had a lot of rain and I had a flat tire.
I was on my way to my mom's and I
was had about three miles ago still to get there,
and I had a flat tire, and I pulled off
on a side road. This road has been under construction
and still is under construction. They had taken out the
entire road and it was down to gravel. They've been
digging big ditches on both sides, putting in new sewers
waterlines for several miles up this road, so it's just destroyed.
I do not know why I pulled off and went
the barriers onto that road. I initially got out of
the car and it was raining. It was just a
soft drizzle kind of rain, and not a serious hard rain.
It just was enough to keep everything damp. And like
I said, I'd been doing it for about three or
four days, and the days were gray and weren't very
sunny or bright. And uh, I got out of the car.
I thought, I thought, you know, maybe I could blow
the tire back up. Dumb me. But the tire was
destroyed and I won't go into that. But anyway, so
I got back in the car and I called U
Triple A. I always keep Triple A. They're worth the money. Anyway,
I called Triple A and they said it'd be about
an hour, maybe hour and a half, but they'd come
as soon as they could. And so I called my
mom and she goes, I'll come get you. I said, no,
I don't want to leave the car here. You just
have to bring me back. I'll just sit here and
play on my phone. So I'm a I'm sitting on
a side road. There's a there's a house probably half
a mile down another road, and there's no houses in
front of me down this tore up road. So there's
really nobody around. There's not much traffic. It was about
one thirty two in the afternoon. It was pretty early
because I was going to I was headed for my
mom's and I do. I spend a lot of time
with her. I help up with a lot of things.
She is elderly, she's eighty six, and anyway, so I
just sat there in the car and for about ten minutes,
I was playing with my phone and I saw some
movement over to my left and I looked up, and okay,
the road ends. It's very narrow because, like I said,
they've shaved off great, big, huge deep ditches on. Now
I'm headed north. My car is facing north and I'm
looking to the west when I say, I saw this
sighting and I see, I see, I see movement in
the grass. And there's like three foot tall grass because
then it's been cut, you know, for months and months.
And there's a tree line about thirty to forty feet
back from the road, and I see movement in the grass,
and I looked over and I immediately knew who I
was looking at. The grass was tall, but it was sparse.
You could see through it, but not clearly, and I
could see her. I saw her peeking at me, and
I could not believe. I could not believe. And I'm thinking,
oh my god, I'm sitting here with a flat tire.
What am I gonna do? She's she's down on all
fours in the grass and she stands up on she
stands up on her two feet, and so she's my
pedal at this point, and she's she's kind she's just
stand there looking at me. And my windows were down
a little bit but it was raining, but they went
up after this after I saw her. The windows went
up and the doors got locked. But I rolled my
window down and I actually said her name, and she
just kind of looked at me, and she wasn't facing
me straight on. She was kind of turned to her
left a little bit, kind of like she was going
to turn around and go back the other way maybe,
or you know, just to flee. But she stood there
in that position and looked at me. She went back
down on all fours, took a few more steps forward,
and remained down on the grass for just a little
bit and then stood up again. And when she stood up,
I noticed something about her that I just still cannot
believe to this day. She's pregnant. She has a baby bump.
She wasn't very far along. Vic and I discussed this
because I said, you know, she who knows when she's
going to have it. I'm figuring probably next spring because
we don't know anything about him. Of course, nobody knows
anything about these creatures. But she's pregnant, and she's just
as cute. She's just as cute as she ever was.
She's a pretty she's very pretty. She's gray and she's
got kind of white tips to her. I think her
hair has changed just a little bit. She seems a
little darker. She's taller. She was about five foot when
I saw her the first time. Now she's probably closer
to six feet. And she hasn't really filled out. She's
not gotten bigger. She's still fairly slender. The dog women
are bottle are built just a little bit different bodily wise.
There's still a big being, but they're they're more there's
more slender, and they've got more of an hourglass shape
in a way, I guess because they're females and they
they Anyway, she's pregnant, and so I'm just sitting there
looking at her, thinking, what am I going to do,
Oh my goodness, if she, if she, she would have
had to come down into a very big ditch and
cross the ditch. But you know these guys, they could jump,
so she could have gotten over there if she wanted to.
But she didn't. She just stood there and looked at me.
She uh stood there and looked at me for quite
a while. It's probably five minutes. This whole thing, this
whole encounter. I think this is an event, not an encounter. Actually,
this is pretty special for me what I had happened
this time. But she she glanced back over her shoulder,
and she has she has a male with her, and
he's standing behind a tree. There's a limb in front
of him. His head's up over the limb. He was probably, yeah,
i'd say he was a good nine ten feet tall.
Maybe I know he was at least eight foot tall.
I've not been back to measure. If I can get
somebody to go with me, I might go back. But
until then I'll have to wait. But he was looking
over the limb, over the limb of the tree, through
the leaves. I could not see him very very clearly,
because he was intending to hide himself. He was not
making himself known. But I saw him and he was male,
and he was standing up behind the tree, and she
had made a step towards me to come down, to
come closer. But he made some kind of noise. He
made a grumble. He didn't really growl. It wasn't loud,
it wasn't mean. He just grumbled and she was like, oh, okay. Well,
so she gets back down on all fours and she
trying to keep an eye on him because now he's
got me worried because I'm ready to leave go. I'm
going to drive off on my hub if I have to.
He did not come out. He didn't a matter of fact,
he disappeared. He went back into the woods behind him,
and she followed him, and she went back into the woods,
and that was the end of my actually seeing her.
So I'm waiting on Triple A. Triple A guy shows up,
and I'm thinking what am I going to do if
these creatures come back out of the woods. So I'm
looking up there at the woods and watching them, and
he's like, is something wrong? He says, what are you
looking at? I said, oh, there's there was some deer
up there earlier that I was looking at, and I
was just seeing if they were going to come back out,
because I was thinking, what was I going to do
with him if they came out, and where was I
going to go? What were we going to do? They
never did, They never stepped back out. They were gone.
They were gone, but they were in the same They
were in a tree line in front of the field
that I saw the group back when I first saw
her the first time, and then I saw the group
a few weeks later. They were still in the exact
same area. So they're staying right there. Lots of deer,
I'm close to the Kansas River, lots of woods. You
can travel from one end of we're actual where it
actually becomes more rule. You can travel from one end
clear to my house if they wanted to, or clear
up towards Lawrence or Topeka. There's woods everywhere. So they're
just here and I got to see her. But yeah,
she had a little baby bump. I don't know. I
don't know what to compare it to. She looks like
maybe a seven month pregnant female human is what I
would compare her baby bump to. But it was pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty cool doesn't do it any justice. That's amazing.
When you told me about that, that blew me away.
I think you've got to be kidding me.
Speaker 2: Tickled, that's why she would That's why I think she
was going around on all fours as much as she was,
because she was moving around on all fours more than
she didn't actually walk around up upright. Her movement was
always when she got down on all fours, a little
bit of movement I got out of her. So I'm
thinking maybe it's more comfortable, or maybe it's protective. I
don't know. I'm just making this putting it fairies out there.
Speaker 1: Well, when you consider the fact that she's walking around
in a digitigrade fashion on her toes if she's pregnant,
I can only imagine that it's got to be a
lot more comfortable to ambulate on all fours than up
on two legs. So that makes sense. That does fit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that does.
Speaker 1: Let's say that the dog man wouldn't have been escorting
her that day. Are you concerned at all that she
might have been a little more aggressive than normal considering
the fact that she is pregnant.
Speaker 2: If I had approached her, maybe she could have been.
But if she had approached me, I don't think so.
I don't think so. She didn't even bear her teeth
at me this time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's really getting to know you. You're almost becoming
old hat for her.
Speaker 2: It sounds like, oh, for heaven's sakes, well, should I
tell about the my mom's house thing?
Speaker 1: Please do?
Speaker 2: About two days after this happened. Of course I didn't
find out until like a whole week later, But two
days after I saw these guys. It was about ten
thirty eleven o'clock at night. My mother lives by herself,
and she has an Earth contact home. And the second
story is above ground, and the bottom story is below
ground and surrounded on three sides, but the roof comes
down level with the ground. You can you can go
around back of the house and hop up on the
roof and walk up to the peace where there are skylights. Well,
mom thought she heard somebody at the back door that night,
two nights later, and she called my brother in law
and he came up. But he can't get up there
quick enough, and she could have. She told me, she
said she swore somebody was on the roof and had
knocked on the skylight. And when my when my brother
in law got there, of course he didn't find anything.
But I have told her since to not take the
dog out after dark, to make sure that she takes
her out, you know, in the daylight. And she hasn't
heard anything since. But she tells me this week later,
and I was like, oh no, because I went after
I got my tire fixed, after they got done with
my tire, I went to her house and I got
there about three three point thirty four. I didn't stay
very long, and so two days later they may have
visited her. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Possibility, Yeah, sounds like they just might have. Before we
move on. I just want to thank Liz l. Eclair
for her donation. I really appreciate it. Liz, thank you
so much. Kim, is that area where you've been seeing
her in those other dog men is it mostly wooded?
You said there's a lot of trees around there, But
is the area mostly wooded and it just has a
little bit in the way of open areas or are
there actually more open areas than forest cover.
Speaker 2: There's more woodland all together. I mean, we've got a
few farms sprinkled out there, and of course there's farmland.
It's none of it's planted anymore, and none of it's
grazed anymore. But there were farms. But there's a lot
of woods. And there's more woods than I ever would
have thought about, because after I saw her the first time,
it's when I actually started paying attention to, you know,
the woods. Actually there was another time. I think I
mentioned it to you in a like I said, you
a message, uh message, a messenger. After I saw that
group a couple of weeks later, I could have swore
I saw a mail or a big uh dog man
crossed the road in front of the car in front
of me, and they slammed on their brakes and it
went down into the ditch where the creek was. The
car slammed on its brakes. I was far enough behind
it I thought that's what I saw. Since my eyesight's
not the best, it could have been something else, But
it looked like by It looked like one that was
up upright walking and it ran. You know. They they
they're like a streak of lightning. So there's a lot
of woods. There's a lot of creeks, lots of woods.
Almost all of it connects in one way or another.
You can almost you could travel in tree cover for
for miles and miles without you know, having having to
go out into a field.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like the perfect habitat for them. No one,
they hang out there in big numbers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just real curious why they're hanging around, or
maybe maybe they went away and came back. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's their mo to move around a
huge home range. I don't think they're in that area
all the time. Consequently, I think they just circle back
to it. But if it's that big of an area,
with that much in the way of resources, they probably
do spend a pretty good amount of time there. So Yeah,
it's no wonder you've seen them so many times considering
how many times you have to drive through there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I won't be surprised the next time I
see her at all.
Speaker 1: Well, like I told you before, I definitely hope that's
not your last time seeing her. I don't think it's
going to be. I really don't. Do you have any
concerns for the safety of the people who live around
that area where you've been seeing.
Speaker 2: Them, Yes, we talked about that before, because the first
time I saw her, I just told you I'd bet
that she wasn't by herself. She was such a young female,
made no sense for her is to be out wandering around. Well,
now since I've heard about Sasha, I mean, obviously there
are some rogue females, but now that I've seen her
with the big guy, yeah, he worries me. She does not.
I mean, I know she can be aggressive there. They
all can, but he's the one that worries me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got good cause to be concerned about him.
I mean, I'm sure he's going to be ridiculously protective
of her. It's not like she would need his protection
from any people coming into that area. But I'm sure
he doesn't see it that way. He takes this job
pretty seriously.
Speaker 2: I'm sure I think she can hold her own. She's
got the claws and the teeth. She's you know, she's
still got the weapons. I mean, she's smaller and more slender,
but she definitely could hold her own.
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't doubt that at all. I don't from
what I understand. Well, I guess we've already covered that.
We don't need to hash that out anymore. How far
does your mother live, though, I'm wondering from that area
where you've been seeing him bring they have the dog
men three miles three miles Okay, so yeah, that's a hop,
skip and a jump as far as dog meing go.
Speaker 2: Well, heck y, it's about a fifteen minute walk for them,
I'm sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if not less with those long legs they have.
But yeah, that's just how it goes. If they're that
close to where she lives. I'm wondering though, Also, you
don't consider, from what I remember about our conversation, you
don't consider that most recent sighting and encounter. You consider
it to be an event.
Speaker 2: How so, Yeah, because she was pregnant. Who when am
I ever going to see that again? The chances of
me just seeing her and then and then it just
narrows down to me seeing her in that condition. Oh
my gosh. Yeah, I'm elevating it. It's it wasn't It
wasn't an encounter. It was an event.
Speaker 1: That's a good way to sum it up. I see
what you mean. Now, that does make sense. Now, it's
clear that you definitely enjoy seeing her, But do you
think she enjoys seeing you?
Speaker 2: Well, she's the one that came out of the woods.
She wasn't there when I pulled up, she approached me.
I wasn't looking. I wasn't even looking for her. She
stepped out, but she wasn't being real pronounced about it.
She's being kind of stealthy, I think. But once she
realized that I knew she was there, that's when she
showed herself.
Speaker 1: Well, as you know. I mean, dog men have walked
out of forests before and approached eye witnesses, not because
they actually enjoyed seeing the people. They wanted to get
a response out of them. So I was just trying
to get some clarity on if you thought that might
be more of the case with her, or if she
actually was showing herself to you because she actually enjoyed
interacting with you.
Speaker 2: I don't think there was any maliceon. She didn't make
any kind of aggressive movement towards me, and he didn't either.
She wasn't giving off an air of aggression or concern
because he wasn't reacting. If I was her enemy, if
she looked at me as her enemy, he would have reacted.
Speaker 1: Oh, no doubt about that. And I'm pretty sure he
realized that you weren't any threat to either one of them.
But of course he's still.
Speaker 2: Going to keep on you. He's got the upper hand.
I mean, look, I mean compared to me. Yeah, you
don't have nothing to worry about. Shoot, yeah, I'd say.
I didn't even have my PUPI with me that day,
So if he wouldn't have had any worries at all.
Speaker 1: No, even if you had that, and I'm sure he
knew that I am. Well, let's dive into some of
these questions now. The first one is from Tisha's Watch,
and Titia wants to know, Kim if you've been able
to get any pictures of himber.
Speaker 2: No, no, no. I the first time I saw Ember,
I was too stunned to take pictures of her. This
time I didn't because I know better. I'm too afraid.
I was too afraid of scaring her away. I would
love to have pictures ever, because can you imagine what
it's worth? But I just didn't want to scare her
off because they know what cameras are.
Speaker 1: Yes they do. It's good you know that if you
want to have future experiences with her, pulling out a camera,
that's the worst thing you could have done, because you
probably wouldn't have ever seen her again. This next one's
from al Kirk and now wants to know, Kim, are
you positive a personal encounter with Ember would not be
without its danger?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, there's always potential for danger. I mean that's
a given with these guys. You can't you know, you
can't be that foolish about it and believe me, I
was ready to drive off on my rim. I wouldn't
got very far. They would have caught up with me,
but I was ready to leave. I even started the
car just in case I had to pull up, but
I didn't. I just stayed there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good move covering your basis like that.
I'm glad you did that. This next one is from
Bigfoot Mama. Well that's a great name. She wants to know, Kim,
what state are you in?
Speaker 2: Kansas?
Speaker 1: You shared that already, but she asked the question, so
I wanted to put that out there, ask her a question. Nonetheless.
This next one is from truth Iris and truth Iris
wants to know, what does your mom think?
Speaker 2: I'm not sure she believes me. I'm kind of out
there anyway, won't We won't go into that, but I'm
always talking to her about everything and anything. I don't
know if she believes me or not. I mean, she
just kind of looks at me. I'm not sure she
hasn't had an accounter as a child or a young
person herself, but she really doesn't. I think she tries
to change the subject is basically what she knows well.
Speaker 1: She might try to change the subject for one of
two reasons. She might be uncomfortable thinking about the possibility
that what you're telling her is true. What she should know,
You're not going to lie to her, But that might
be the reason behind her trying to switch the channel,
so to speak. Also, too, maybe she's had experiences. Also
you talked about the one that happened late that night,
but maybe more has gone on around her home that
you don't know about. It's hard to.
Speaker 2: Say, yeah, possibility.
Speaker 1: You never know, you really don't. This next question is
from Alicia Losier, and she wants to know do you
think she remembered you from the last time you saw
each other?
Speaker 2: Yes, I honestly do I think I do. I think
she remembers me, And besides, in my heart, that's what
I like what I'd like to think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet she does. I bet good money on that.
Bang Bang wants to know, Kim, do you think these
are evil? Dog men.
Speaker 2: Do I think they're youthful evil? Oh? Evil? No, I don't.
I don't have any reason to think that they're evil.
Of course, I've always been lary of uh, you know,
I vict knows I live, I have woods behind me.
I've always been lary of one of them is showing
up here. But I haven't seen anything to indicate any
kind of evil. I didn't even feel any mouse or
evil from them.
Speaker 1: And if they were evil, they've had their chances to
do you in and do other things too.
Speaker 2: They had well, they could have had. They could have
had me and the Triple A guy.
Speaker 1: They sure could have. That's right, it's good you understand that.
This next one is from Bang Bang and they want
to know, Kim, if you found any kind of nest.
Speaker 2: Nest. No, no, I haven't been. I haven't been rurally
cross country to find anything like that. But that would
be so cool.
Speaker 1: Yes, it would be. There was another question related to that.
I'm gonna scroll and see if I can't find it,
where a guest asked a question about a gift. Yeah,
there we go. It's from Aerial Dark Star and they
want to know if you found a seashell. She might
have left for you.
Speaker 2: No, I haven't looked, and I don't. I don't know
where they would leave something like that, because would they
be coming here to my home? Maybe at my mom's house,
you know, that would probably be the more likely place
that they would leave something. We have what we did
have some strange evergreens show up her backyard back by
the far fence a couple months ago, and we couldn't
forget where they had come from because there wasn't a
tree like that around. I had had forgot all about that,
but everybody was like, where in the hell could of
those come from? So maybe that was my nest. I
don't know. I had just remembered that.
Speaker 1: Huh. Yeah, they might have been behind that. It's hard
to say. Christina easter Day has got a good question.
She wants to know, do you think Himber knows you're
a safe place for her, like when deer come in
our field during hunting season.
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, I'm a high believer in vibration
and energy and thought patterns and telepathy and mind speak,
which I've not experienced that I know of from these guys.
So if anybody's going to ask that, I'm answering that now,
But I totally think that she just knows. I mean,
these guys are so more advanced in such a different
way than we are. I really think she knows. I
mean they it's just like, okay, my dogs. If my
dogs like a person, I know that's a good person.
So why wouldn't these guys have an even higher version
of that judgment than what a normal canine does. So
they should be able to tell. And I solely believe
they can tell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just might be able to Who knows what
the extent of their abilities are, so yeah, that's definitely
a possibility. It looks like the next one is from
The Wicked sixty nine and they want to know how
smart you think dog men are.
Speaker 2: I sort of kind of already touched on that. I
think they're highly intelligent. I think they're intelligence is on
a different level than ours and in a different way
because they are in nature and they have all of
the abilities and to survive in nature. So I think
that they are highly intelligent in that manner. Course, of course,
they live around us. We don't see them. They skirt us,
you know, they're always out there looking at us. We
don't see them, So that's a level of intelligence that
you have to admire right there, just in itself, just
by itself.
Speaker 1: I agree, that's a good way to sum it up.
It looks like be kind is the next question. She
wants to know, Kim, have you ever noticed a shift
in barometric pressure or odd sense before? I think she
wants to know if you've had an odd sense before
you knave of your encounters.
Speaker 2: No. I am highly tuned into barometric pressure because it
causes me migraine, headaches, and other illness type things. So no,
I haven't encountered that with these guys.
Speaker 1: Know. Well, yeah, sounds like you are sensitive to that. Then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's an app on There's an android app. It's
called weather X and that's what I was going to
tell Jared about. It tells you the barometri pressure every day.
Speaker 1: Yep, so you would know, you definitely would.
Speaker 2: I keep an eye on it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds like you do. The truth wants to
know if you're planning a baby shower for him or
maybe a special meal.
Speaker 2: You know, Uh, I don't know. That might be a
cool idea to leave something down there where I saw
an that's a good idea, not a baby shower, But
I might leave something special. But like I said, I
need to get somebody to go back with me and
to get my son convinced that this is a real thing,
is a work of art in progress.
Speaker 1: Is he close to coming around or is he crossing
his arms and saying no one.
Speaker 2: Well, he's close to coming around. He's got a lot
of odd, unusual, diverse, open minded things of his own,
So I think I've got him convinced. I just wish
somebody would be with me when I saw I do.
I wish, I wish I had an eyewitness.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure it's not lost on you that if
you have someone else with you, the odds of you
actually seeing her again are pretty slight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I have her trust, You're right, and then
I may never see her again because then she might
not trust me anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. You never know. Goes to UFO wants
to know, what do you think Imbert thinks about you?
Speaker 2: No, I never thought about that. I am another female,
and I'm an older female, so she might look at
me as more of a mother type because I know
she knows I'm I'm a senior citizen because I am,
and I know they're smart enough so she might that
maybe why she trusts me because she knows I'm an
older female, And I think that's maybe maybe that's why
she's attracted to me.
Speaker 1: That might be, It just might be. See who was
to have this question? Yeah? There it is a great
question from Titia's watch. She wants to know, do you
think she might come back to show you her young Well?
Speaker 2: I can only hope, can I. Vick and I talked
about that, And when I first saw her the first time,
somebody asked me that do I did I think that
Ember would show me her pups? And I would? I
would love to see her pups, and I would. I would.
I'm putting that out mentally. So maybe she'll catch it.
Maybe maybe I will get the chance to see them.
Wouldn't that be something?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sure would be. You never know, you might
see the baby. It's hard to say. I've got another
great question for you from truth Iris. There we go.
They want to know we're able to distinguish around her
vertical pupil, that.
Speaker 2: Her pupils are round. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever heard an eyewitness, a credible eyewitness,
ever say that they saw elliptical pupils like a snake.
It's always been round pupils, so that fits.
Speaker 2: Well, she's not reptilian, she's the mammal.
Speaker 1: Well, neither are cats house cats, but yeah, they have
elliptical pupils as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, but they're also cats. These are canine.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's true. Well, foxes have elliptical pupils.
Speaker 2: Now they aren't. Fox is a whole different branch. They're
not descended from wolves. They're around. If they change, I'll
let you know.
Speaker 1: Hopefully it won't change. Hopefully it's going to just stay
the same. Bang Bang wants to know if Imber has
ever smiled at you.
Speaker 2: The first time I saw her, she smiled at me,
And when she did that, that's what I had to
leave because I didn't know how to take it. She
had this big old air of the teeth grin.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you did not to take that. Yeah, that's
hard to process when you sell those big shirt teeth
Andras Curizalez is the next question. He wants to know
the meal you saw with her. Have you seen him
before or is he new for you to see.
Speaker 2: He's new for me to see, but he could have
been in the group that I saw crossing the field.
That day. He could have been one of those. But
as far as I'm concerned, he's he's something new. He's
a big guy call black. It's scary. As scary as
I'll get out. I do have a I have a
much more ingrained fear of them now because of his appearance,
not because of any action. But I've always been leary
of them, But now that I've seen him, you know she,
but he didn't know anything. So he's in us. He's
still innocent, innocent, and she'll proven guilty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure he does look like he's playing for keeps.
I don't doubt that at all. Christine the Easter Day
wants to know if you've named that Maile dog Mayet.
Speaker 2: No, No, I just call him big guy.
Speaker 1: Well that's an accurate name for him. It's fitting. It
looks like Joel Marlin wants to know. Do you think
maybe she's aware you share about her with other humans,
like maybe she wants you to educate fellow humans.
Speaker 2: Actually, that's a very unique thought, right there. I hadn't
thought about that, So I'm going to say no, I
hadn't thought that, But that was really cool for you
to come up with that.
Speaker 1: That is a good question. It definitely is. Let's see
looking for another good one. You've got one here from
be kind. She wants to know, Kim. Are you a
sensitive their voyant pick up on paranormal activities RH negative?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not RH negative, but I do pick up
on paranormal I have a history of paranormal which I
haven't opened up to Vic about. And I am an EmPATH.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I've got a sneaking suspicion that plays into
all these encounters you've had.
Speaker 2: And l.
Speaker 1: Wants you to know that he would definitely or she
would definitely go with you if they could laugh out loud.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1: Be careful what you wish for. You might come to
regret that Kurt Schlichting wants to know Kim. Have you
tried mine speak?
Speaker 2: Have I tried mine speak? I have to admit that
while I was sitting there looking at her, I called
her name once and I don't know how to explain it.
I can't think of a way to explain this. But
I was sitting there, uh, thinking things like are you
gonna come any closer? You know? What do you what
do you want? Why are you here? And and you
know you're you're you're beautiful, and I'm happy for you,
those kind of things. But I was just thinking those things.
I wasn't really aiming them at her, trying to converse
with her. And of course I hadn't seen him yet.
I wouldn't have been that frivalent if I had seen
him when I since I saw him, my guy, a
little bit terrified.
Speaker 1: I can understand what you did. Yeah, definitely. I can't
remem if I asked you this question or not from
al Kirk, but he wanted to know, do you think
you might be driving close to a den site?
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, I do. I think I'm real close to
a den site because of the five I saw that
that family group, and then these two have shown up,
and they're obviously a family themselves, so there's got to
be ad in sight somewhere. They even if they travel
like Vic and everybody that knows these guys better than
I do, say they travel around and make circuits. Well,
they've got to have normal, regular places that they stop off.
So I would say there's a dinner around there somewhere,
and I'm probably driving right by it.
Speaker 1: It just might be you never know, wouldn't that be
something yeah, and this is touching on a comment they
made just a bit ago Llo wants you to know, Kim,
I think after Ember has her baby, she's going to
show it off to you. Laugh out loud. Who knows.
Maybe they want to adopt you into their klan, laugh
out loud.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, Okay, I'd love to see the baby, but
I don't want to be adopted.
Speaker 1: You don't want to be adopted into their clan. That
wouldn't be a good scene.
Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't last to day. Probably, I'd
probably wind up as lunch.
Speaker 1: Hopefully wouldn't come to that. I don't think it would.
I don't think it would because, like I've said before,
these guys don't have any trouble feeding themselves at all.
I mean, I think they feed themselves like it's going
out of style. If you think mountain lions are deer
killing machines, these guys would make them look like rank
amateurs in my opinion.
Speaker 2: Yeah. As stealthy as they are, I don't know why
they can't just walk up and swipe at the deer
and get them, because they sure are stealthy. And that
big guy, he didn't make a noise I didn't even
know he turned around and left the tree until she
just she walked under the limb, and I was looking
in the looking in that area. He was gone. He
had just disappeared, just as silent as he had shown up.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it seemed like he was gone, but I'll
bet you give money he was still there watching you.
Speaker 2: Well, he wanted her to go. He was done because
she started to move towards me. He made a noise.
She turned around, looked at him, and then that was it.
She was ready to go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet he couldn't get her out of there
soon enough. I'll bet you're rained. Bang Bang wants to know.
Do you think she goes to your mom's house, which
you touched on that at the start of the show.
Speaker 2: I've never had any indication of it until now because
every time I well, let's let me think about that.
The first time I saw her, I was going to Mom's.
The second time I saw the family group, I was
headed home from Moms. When I saw the one crossed
the road, I was going home from Moms. This is
only the second time I've been headed for my mother's.
And she did have that noise that night, which we know,
we don't know what it was. I'm kind of hoping not,
but yeah, I think it's a good possibility because that's
where I was headed the other day, so they know
they know that's where I go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll beg good money. They have followed you there,
and if that's the case, if they know where she lives,
then yeah, it would make sense. They probably have Peter
some visits. So I'll bet you're right on that. Alicia
Lozier wants to know any guests, based on size perspective,
how many buns were in the oven.
Speaker 2: Like I said, she was about the size of a
seventh month human, and not being able to determine how
far along she actually is, I can't really make an
educated statement about that. But the few encounters I've heard,
not only on Vick's show but on some others, most
of the time there's at least two that are together.
There's usually two. I've heard of as many as four,
but it's usually two. And most of the time dogs
have regular dogs have. If you think about it, most
of the litters are even. They're either two, four, six, eight.
I know they're odd numbers, but they're not usually even.
So I'm figuring it's two, just because just out of
you know, just the few things I've heard, well.
Speaker 1: That would make sense. You're having more than two dog
Me and puffs. That's really got to be awfully draining
on a female. So I doubt that would ever happen.
But you never know, humans have more than two sometimes,
So who's to say? It looks like Beth Ferguson has
a comment for you. She's saying in her comment, I'm
an EmPATH in medium. I had a werewolf slash dog
me in mind speak with me. I could always feel
as energy. How did the energy feel for you when
you had your encounters?
Speaker 2: She's right, I could feel her energy. That is how
I actually noticed her. It was more like I felt
something and I and I saw the movement, and she
was hiding from me when I first found her, saw her,
noticed her, but I felt her. Yeah, I felt it. Well, okay, well,
these guys, you know how everything does, Everything goes still, quiet, dead,
That's kind of what it was. So, but but I
felt that there was something there. I felt her. I
didn't know it was her till I visually laid eyes
on her, but I felt her presence. I knew there
was something there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you must be a sensitive then. Andras Currizalez wants
to know, do you think if Imber does bring the
young one around, that the Meal will scout you first?
Speaker 2: Hmm. He didn't show much interest in me. I think
he was just uh, I think he was just humoring her.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, like we've already established, he knows you're not
a threat. He wanted to just maybe evaluate you further,
but he knows, as intelligent as they are, he knows
that you're not a threat. Kurt Schlichting has a question
about that Meal. He wants to know if you can
describe him in the other details about him that you
can tell us about as far as his appearance.
Speaker 2: Well, he was behind a tree, so there's a quite
a bit of him. I couldn't see. I could see.
I saw his genitalia, his tummy. I could see one.
He had one. Let's see, it would have been at
his left arm. He had his left arm wrapped around
the tree. I could see his left left claws, his
hand and claws. The other one was up on the
limb he was holding onto the tree. He had one
arm wrapped around the trunk of the tree and the
other arm was up on the limb, but I couldn't
see the one that was on the limb because it
was like along the limb behind it. He was really,
really really covered in foliage. It's like he was peeking
over the limb of the tree and he was framed
in leaves. I could. I could see his face. I could,
and I saw his midsection. I couldn't really see a
whole lot of his legs. I saw his knees, but
I couldn't see the the bottom the way he was
standing at where he was standing, because it was it
was kind of downhill and he was behind shrubbery. He
was very very well concealed, so I can't give him
any details about him. He had a white his head
was wide. He had a white head. He didn't have
that long, slender snout like some of them knew. His
was more of a wide I like, what kind of
kind of dug And I can hear him too, like a.
Speaker 1: Chow when they want to conceal themselves or masters it
doing it. So it's no wonder you weren't able to
get a good luck.
Speaker 2: No, he wasn't. He wasn't. He wasn't showing him stuff
to me. He was keeping an eye on Ember and
making sure she was.
Speaker 1: Safe and following her around. I'm sure that's pretty much
all he does us now. Bang Bang made a donation,
and I want to thank you so much for doing that,
for supporting the show. I really appreciate it. And I've
got another question for you from be Kind. They want
to know, Kim, can you explain the difference between barometric
pressure shift and sensing energy shift.
Speaker 2: Barometric pressure that causes me to have pressure in my head.
Energy shift is more a whole body feeling.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've experienced both so many times that at
the snap of a finger you know which one is which.
Speaker 2: Well, I know how to I know how to ward.
I know how to ward against energy. So being an EmPATH,
you have to learn how to ward in order to
protect yourself or you get a lot of you. You
you absorb other people's emotions and you just kind of
get on a roller coaster and it can make you
just a little bit crazy. But yeah, it's totally different.
It's the barometric pressure and actual energy. It's just totally different.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to take your word on that, because yeah,
I wouldn't know. I wouldn't now that you know that
she's pregnant. It's obviously you spend a lot of time
going up and down those roads in that area. How
much more often are you going to be in that
area to try and keep an eye out and maybe
keep some form of tabs on iimber.
Speaker 2: I think probably what I'll do is there are several
roads that I can still get to where I need
to go that kind of go around different areas there
without going out of the area. That's probably what the
tack I'm going to take is, I'll just take a
different road each time I go. I have no reason
to go that way anymore than I already do unless
I was just looking for her, And I really don't
have that frivolity or time to just be out looking
for Ember. But I definitely I have opera glasses and
I have my binoculars both in the car, so I
definitely am going to start looking for them. Every little movement,
everything that's just out of ordinary or a CE I'll
be checking out.
Speaker 1: Well, you're obviously on high alert before I'm sure it's
going to be times ten now, so that's understandable. Truth
IRIS has the last question of the night. They want
to know, do you believe they're supernatural, they'reo a supernatural
order or strictly flesh and blood.
Speaker 2: I think they're flesh and blood, but they have the
ability to go between dimensions, That's what I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just might be right to a lot of
people believe that, So you never know, that just might
be the keys. Well, before we get out, if you're
a Kim, we have any closing comments you'd like to
put out there for us, Just.
Speaker 2: Keep your head on a swivel. You just never know
what you're going to see or who you're going to
run into, or what you're going to encounter and what
kind of relationship it'll run into.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's always really good advice. Well, like I told
you before, Kim, I can't thank you enough for coming
back on to update us on this most recent experience
or I should say event events a better way to
put it. I'm with you on that, but yeah, please
remember if you ever need any help in the future,
always be there for you. And hopefully you are going
to have some updates for us in the future. You
never know.
Speaker 2: I can only hope.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully, so hopefully you will. Well, like I said,
thanks against so much for your time and have a
great night. Well that's another one in the books. Like
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