Speaker 1: It's nice eyes, Dan Ray, i'mdelling you mazy Boston's News
Speaker 1: Radio Madison.
Speaker 2: That's not a skirt that I wanted to hear. Oh
Speaker 2: my goodness. Things not going well in the Big Apple tonight.
Speaker 2: P Hey, it's early. It's only the second inning. Rather
Speaker 2: be down five zip in the second inning than five
Speaker 2: zip in the bottom of the top of the ninth
Speaker 2: in this case. Anyway, good inning, everyone, and welcome. Name.
Speaker 2: My name is Dan Ray, host of Nightside. We have
Speaker 2: both Sean and Rob back in the control room tonight,
Speaker 2: so we have double duty. We have double coverage. We're
Speaker 2: in great shape from a production point of view. I
Speaker 2: have all the confidence in the world in both of
Speaker 2: those gentlemen. You should as well. During the first hour
Speaker 2: they'll be able to just relax a little bit. We
Speaker 2: don't get to phone calls until the second hour. During
Speaker 2: the nine o'clock hour, we're going to talk about the
Speaker 2: now I think pretty clear, the divorce between Donald Trump
Speaker 2: and Elon Musk. Will get to that. We also may
Speaker 2: talk about the indictment that came down late today of
Speaker 2: that Maryland man man who was sent to El Salvador
Speaker 2: apparently in error. Subsequently, he's now been indicted in charge
Speaker 2: with illegal smuggling and a conspiracy account as well out
Speaker 2: of the federal US Attorney's office in Tennessee. We'll get
Speaker 2: to all of that, and then later on time we're
Speaker 2: going to talk with an author, Jeff Convits. He wrote
Speaker 2: the book The Sentinel, which was a big New York
Speaker 2: Times bestseller, and he has another book coming out later
Speaker 2: on this month called The Circus of Satan, Murder, Revenge,
Speaker 2: and the Rise of Organized Crime, talking about various organized
Speaker 2: crime elements. He's a lawyer, he's very successful criminal defense
Speaker 2: lawyer and an author, and so we'll talk with him
Speaker 2: in ten and then we will have our twentieth hour
Speaker 2: of the week. And I'm not exactly sure we're going
Speaker 2: to do. I have a sense, but I don't want
Speaker 2: to commit to anything quite yet. However, I do want
Speaker 2: to commit to four really interesting guests. We're going to
Speaker 2: start off with Sean DeRosa, who's the director of Pool
Speaker 2: and Waterfront Safety for the Massachusets Department of Conservation and Recreation.
Speaker 2: Sean DeRosa, Welcome to Night Side. How are you, sir.
Speaker 3: I'm doing great, Dan, thanks for having me tonight.
Speaker 2: Well, we are moving into that season of the year
Speaker 2: when people want to get to the beach and they
Speaker 2: want to get to pools, and the DCR has some
Speaker 2: obligation to make sure that the beaches and the pools
Speaker 2: are as safe as possible for people who come here
Speaker 2: either as tourists or are Massachusetts residents. Tell us what
Speaker 2: the scope of the DCR is in the first place,
Speaker 2: just to refresh everyone's recollection, and then we'll talk about
Speaker 2: the reasonable precautions that people have to take when they
Speaker 2: decide to spend the day, a day this summer, or
Speaker 2: many days this summer near the water.
Speaker 3: Well, we sure hope it's a warm and sunny summer
Speaker 3: for us, all right. NASSDCR is our state park system
Speaker 3: in Massachusetts, So we operate in the swimming world, which
Speaker 3: of course is what everyone looks forward to doing the summer.
Speaker 3: We operate eighty different swimming beaches, forty nine of which
Speaker 3: are not lifeguarded, thirty one of which are, as well
Speaker 3: as twenty four swimming pools, and then two waiting pools
Speaker 3: for everyone free of charge. So it's an exciting opportunity
Speaker 3: for people to come out, enjoy the sun, enjoy the beach,
Speaker 3: and also cool down from the summer heat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what are the problems Again, I'm sure that
Speaker 2: over time you've seen people who come either unprepared or
Speaker 2: take risks that are inappropriate. Let's just hit some of
Speaker 2: the the dues. Are the don'ts, with probably an emphasis
Speaker 2: on the don'ts for sure.
Speaker 3: Well, let's start with the dude, do have fun, but
Speaker 3: we want you to do it safely. That brings us
Speaker 3: to some of the the don'ts that we're talking about.
Speaker 3: But one of the most important things people can do
Speaker 3: is to choose to swim where a lifeguard is present.
Speaker 3: That is probably the most safe option that we have.
Speaker 3: That said, it's important that parents also watch their children,
Speaker 3: even though lifeguards may be watching over them. No one
Speaker 3: can watch a child as closely as their own parent.
Speaker 2: No question about that, and it's a parent's primary responsibility.
Speaker 2: And obviously, if a child gets in trouble, the parent
Speaker 2: has to maybe make sure they don't get in trouble.
Speaker 2: But if they do get in trouble, at that point,
Speaker 2: probably the professionals of the people who want to get involved.
Speaker 2: You don't want to have a situation where not only
Speaker 2: is the child in trouble, but the parent is in
Speaker 2: trouble as well.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and that's one of the reasons why we do
Speaker 3: encourage people to swim where lifeguards are present. They're trained
Speaker 3: in water safety measures, and let's face it, on a
Speaker 3: stormy day, rip current are prevalent on some beaches and
Speaker 3: those can be deadly. Our lifeguards risk their lives every
Speaker 3: time they jump in the water, and we'd rather have
Speaker 3: trained professionals trying to make the rescue and save life
Speaker 3: rather than complicating it with additional victims. And that's also
Speaker 3: why it's important that we find enough lifeguards to staff
Speaker 3: these beaches, because this is an important public safety resource
Speaker 3: and position.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you anticipated my next question. Obviously, we're now
Speaker 2: in June. We're wrapping up the first full week of June.
Speaker 2: How are you doing in terms of staffing, because obviously
Speaker 2: there are some locations you won't be able to open
Speaker 2: unless you have an adequate number of lifeguards. Do you
Speaker 2: need more lifeguards? We do?
Speaker 3: You know, we're doing fairly well this year. We've already
Speaker 3: hired over four hundred lifeguards and we have an additional
Speaker 3: two hundred and thirty schedule to start in the next
Speaker 3: two weeks. But we're still looking for about thirty more
Speaker 3: positions in the Greater Boston area that includes Chelsea, Cambridge
Speaker 3: all the way up to Lawrence even and for those
Speaker 3: positions we are hoping to find people who can swim.
Speaker 3: We offer the training classes for free. If someone wants
Speaker 3: to become a lifeguard and wants to work for DCR,
Speaker 3: will cover that training expense that's usually about three hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty or four hundred dollars, and we can offer
Speaker 3: a job that helps people regardless of what career they
Speaker 3: go in down the road. They'll learn skills while lifeguarding
Speaker 3: that I say transcend occupational boundaries.
Speaker 2: So is it realistic to think that someone who is
Speaker 2: not a swimmer can learn to swim that quickly with
Speaker 2: a few lessons, to the point that they actually then
Speaker 2: could be a lifeguard or do you have to have,
Speaker 2: really before you apply for this job at least some
Speaker 2: rudimentary experience as a swimmer.
Speaker 3: That's a great question. So we do have entry requirements
Speaker 3: for the lifeguarding course. They're not as strict as they
Speaker 3: used to be years ago, but we do need a
Speaker 3: certain level of swimming profficiency. We do if you're interested
Speaker 3: in working with the DCR, we have a lot of
Speaker 3: information online at mass dot gov slash lifeguards that will
Speaker 3: explain the specific swimming requirements. Usually lifeguards have to swim
Speaker 3: about three hundred yards with a variety of strokes in
Speaker 3: order to get into the course.
Speaker 2: Well, that's if you can swim three hundred yards with
Speaker 2: a variety of strokes, you're pretty accomplished and experienced swimmer.
Speaker 2: That's that is great to know. As someone who might
Speaker 2: bring you know, children, well with not children now grandchildren
Speaker 2: into a DCR location, You're going to know that the
Speaker 2: people who are wearing that uniform are sitting out there
Speaker 2: on that that that chair that gives them a good
Speaker 2: view of the facility, the beach or the pool. Uh,
Speaker 2: they're going to be very qualified. That's that's great to hear.
Speaker 2: Any other last we got about a minute left. Any
Speaker 2: other last minute advice for people? Can they call an
Speaker 2: is there a number that they can call if they
Speaker 2: are a website they can go if they want to
Speaker 2: apply if they feel they have that qualification Number one
Speaker 2: and number two? Is there a way or a website
Speaker 2: where on a stormy day parents can find out whether
Speaker 2: or not these facilities are open or not and not
Speaker 2: make an assumption and drive twenty or twenty five miles
Speaker 2: and be disappointed. Is there a great website that people
Speaker 2: can access not only for employment but also for information.
Speaker 3: All of our employment information and our park alerts are
Speaker 3: posted at mass doc of SLASH Lifeguards or at the
Speaker 3: masstoc of DCR website. It can easily google DCR Park
Speaker 3: alerts and you'll find alerts for pools, beaches and the
Speaker 3: rest of our parks.
Speaker 2: Really appreciate it, Sean, A lot of information in a
Speaker 2: short period of time. Let us hope everyone has a
Speaker 2: safe and successful summer and that every day is perfect
Speaker 2: weather wise. Thanks Sean. I appreciate it very much.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Dan. All Right, we'll talk again when we get back.
Speaker 2: We're going to talk about a bug that sounds great.
Speaker 2: It's called but do you hear this? A spotted a
Speaker 2: lantern fly. But it's a nasty little devil wreaking havoc
Speaker 2: in parts of Massachusetts. We will talk with a UMass
Speaker 2: entomologist on the other side of this quick break on Nightside.
Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Now, if I were to say to you, oh, come
Speaker 2: out in my backyard, I have a lovely spotted lanten
Speaker 2: fly that you might like to look at you probably say, oh,
Speaker 2: that must be a beautiful a flying insect. Well, it
Speaker 2: might be beautiful, but I don't think you like it.
Speaker 2: With us is Tawny Simiski. She's with the she's a
Speaker 2: u AS extension entomologists at the University of Massachusetts and Amherst,
Speaker 2: and she has an expertise on the spotted lanternfly. And
Speaker 2: there's probably little about this infestation that has been confirmed
Speaker 2: in North Andover that anyone in North End wants to
Speaker 2: hear about. Hi, Tawny, how are you good?
Speaker 4: Dan? How are you? Thanks so much for having me right.
Speaker 2: I had never heard of the spotted lantern fly up
Speaker 2: until now, and I hope I never meet one tell
Speaker 2: us about this beautiful invasive insect.
Speaker 4: If you will, you are certainly right, they are beautiful
Speaker 4: if you're like me, an entomologist or entomology minded and
Speaker 4: think insects are beautiful. But the unfortunate side of the
Speaker 4: spotted lantern fly is that it's non native. It's an
Speaker 4: invasive insect that was introduced accidentally into the United States,
Speaker 4: and it is an agricultural pest as well as a
Speaker 4: significant nuisance.
Speaker 2: Who accidentally introduced this.
Speaker 4: To a landscape Well, so they first came into the
Speaker 4: United States in Berks County, Pennsylvania in twenty fourteen, and
Speaker 4: it is suspected that perhaps they were associated with a
Speaker 4: specialty stone business, at least that is what the USDA
Speaker 4: had reported at the time. And why that makes sense
Speaker 4: to me is that spotted lanternfly lays their egg masses
Speaker 4: on virtually any flat surface, so that could include things
Speaker 4: like stone, firewood, outdoor furniture. That's how this insect can
Speaker 4: move around.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let me ask you where is their home?
Speaker 2: Where are they endemic?
Speaker 4: Due they are native originally to China, India, and Vietnam,
Speaker 4: but they've accidentally been introduced into South Korea as well
Speaker 4: as the United States.
Speaker 2: Yikes, Okay, so how much of an interest do we
Speaker 2: have to worry about twenty fourteen they were a part
Speaker 2: in the punt here they were spotted in Pennsylvania. Where
Speaker 2: else have they migrated to in the last eleven years
Speaker 2: in the US?
Speaker 4: Well, for US, in Massachusetts, they first were detected in
Speaker 4: the city of Fitchburg and Worcester County in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 4: and as you mentioned, north andover this year they've been
Speaker 4: spreading throughout Massachusetts they've spread outside of Pennsylvania. They're known
Speaker 4: in New York, Connecticut, Maryland, Delaware, New Jersey, Virginia, and
Speaker 4: other areas in the US, and we're really just trying
Speaker 4: to keep an eye out for them.
Speaker 2: So I guess if you drew a big circle about
Speaker 2: four high five hundred miles around Pennsylvania, I suspect that
Speaker 2: unless there's something about I don't know, Michigan or Ohio
Speaker 2: or Canada, they're probably in those places too.
Speaker 4: I would suspect they are in Michigan and Ohio as well. Yes,
Speaker 4: and the insects spreads with people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just a lucky guess. So what's the problem here,
Speaker 2: As I understand that part of the problem is the
Speaker 2: residue we're using a nice word here, that they deposit
Speaker 2: wherever they are, and it's pretty unpleasant.
Speaker 4: So that residue is honeydew. That's the sugary liquid waste
Speaker 4: or extrement that they secrete. They use piercing sucking mouthparts
Speaker 4: to remove fluids from their host plants, of which there
Speaker 4: are over one hundred different species of trees and shrubs
Speaker 4: and other plants, including agricultural crops like grape, that they
Speaker 4: will feed on. Their favored host is tree of Heaven.
Speaker 4: That's an invasive tree that was purposely introduced into urban
Speaker 4: areas in the US and has a long history here.
Speaker 4: But we're really worried about the grape crops and vineyards
Speaker 4: as far as agriculture is concerned. And as you mentioned
Speaker 4: that honeydew that they create. When there are lots of
Speaker 4: these insects creating that in your landscaped areas like yards
Speaker 4: and parks, they can become a nuisance because that coats
Speaker 4: plants and other objects and also calls in wasps and
Speaker 4: yellow jackets and beads to feed on it.
Speaker 2: Oh great, great, So this is sort of similar to
Speaker 2: what it well, again, it's not identical, but kind of
Speaker 2: similar to what Canadian gieshu known for. They may be
Speaker 2: cute and the little goslings are cute, but it's what
Speaker 2: they leave behind was really bothers a lot, a lot
Speaker 2: of people. So I kind of think that that's the
Speaker 2: analogy we're trying to create here and using big, big,
Speaker 2: big words and people people get what we're talking about.
Speaker 4: I assume right, certainly their excrement in their waist is
Speaker 4: really amus.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're doing.
Speaker 2: We're doing fine. We're doing fine. Okay, So, so what's
Speaker 2: the chance. By the way, what is a tree of heaven?
Speaker 2: I that that sounds pretty suspicious to me. You said
Speaker 2: they were the tree of Heaven's or the trees of Heaven.
Speaker 2: I think about oaks and elms and things like that,
Speaker 2: beach trees, birch trees. I've never heard of a tree
Speaker 2: of heaven. Where did where did they come from?
Speaker 4: So tree of heaven, it's Atlantis altissima is the scientific name.
Speaker 4: They're a rapidly growing tree that's native to China, and they.
Speaker 2: Into Chinese always has a role in this stuff, don't they.
Speaker 4: Certainly we do have some equal climate matching to places
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, wow wow. Okay, So, so those trees
Speaker 2: came here, no suggestion that they came here with the
Speaker 2: with some knowledge of the arrival of the spot at
Speaker 2: lant It just so happened that the trees came from
Speaker 2: and these spotted lantern flies, which were accidentally transported to
Speaker 2: here enjoy the trees of heaven.
Speaker 4: Certainly, yes, yeah, the two did not occur at the
Speaker 4: same time. Tree of Heaven was brought, probably in the
Speaker 4: late seventeen hundreds into the United States.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's far and if the trees of Heaven were
Speaker 2: brought brought here like three to five years before, I'd
Speaker 2: get my conspiracy sensitivities acting. Yeah, So how do we
Speaker 2: get rid of these folks? We're not looking to be abusive,
Speaker 2: but is there anything that can be done or at
Speaker 2: this point are they now you know native to Massachusetts,
Speaker 2: Pennsylvania and all the other states you mentioned.
Speaker 4: Well, for us in Massachusetts, it's really important that folks,
Speaker 4: if you see spotted lantern fly or any of its
Speaker 4: life stages, to take a photo and report it to
Speaker 4: our mass Department of Agricultural Resources. You can also reach
Speaker 4: out to you MASS Extension and we can assist you
Speaker 4: as well. If you do have a known infestation on
Speaker 4: your property or on a property that you manage and
Speaker 4: it's been identified and confirmed, there are management options out there.
Speaker 4: We suggest integrated pest management, so that we are taking
Speaker 4: steps that help reduce the insect population but while conserving
Speaker 4: human health and the health of the environment. And U
Speaker 4: MASS Extension can be there to answer those questions for you.
Speaker 2: Okay, now, I think that's really important. I know I've
Speaker 2: kind of kitted with you a little bit because although
Speaker 2: this is a serious story. It's something that you know,
Speaker 2: we will all survive the spot at lantern flies, I hope,
Speaker 2: absolutely so. And again with folks like yourself who are
Speaker 2: monitoring this, which we appreciate very much. Appreciate not only
Speaker 2: you joining me tonight, but also just you know, making
Speaker 2: this information available because when people see that they should
Speaker 2: they could find a picture of a spotted lantern fly,
Speaker 2: I assume on your website as well.
Speaker 4: Absolutely so. I'm with U Mass Extensions Landscape Nursery and
Speaker 4: Urban Forestry Program. So if you come to our website,
Speaker 4: we have information about the spotted lantern fly as well
Speaker 4: as many other insect pests of trees and shrubs, both
Speaker 4: native and introduced. And we've got photos of the eggs,
Speaker 4: the nymphs and the adults, and information as to where
Speaker 4: to report spotted lanternfly and your different types of management options.
Speaker 2: Okay, and again just give us that website one more time.
Speaker 2: Hopefully it's nice and simple for people to remember or
Speaker 2: write down.
Speaker 4: Okay, So we are at www dot UMass dot edu.
Speaker 4: It's not quite so simple. Backslash agriculture dash food, dash
Speaker 4: environment backslash landscape. So it's the U Mass Extensions Landscape
Speaker 4: Nursery and Urban Forestry program.
Speaker 2: If you google that, easy for you to say, Okay, thanks, yeah,
Speaker 2: hopefully they can find that. Tawny, thank you very much.
Speaker 2: I'm sure if they just google lantern Fly as well,
Speaker 2: there'll be that will probably work allow them to get
Speaker 2: to that website.
Speaker 4: Thank you so started lantern Fly and you mass Extension. Yes,
Speaker 4: thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Tan. You're very welcome. Tawny Siminski. Simiski who's an entomologist,
Speaker 2: which means she's a bug expert at UMass Amherst. Thanks again, Tawni,
Speaker 2: talk soon.
Speaker 4: Thank you, have a good night.
Speaker 2: You're welcome. Thank you you as well. Have a great weekend.
Speaker 2: We have now the news coming at us at the
Speaker 2: bottom of the hour, and after that we talked about
Speaker 2: swimming early, we're going to talk about the boating season
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Speaker 2: I think was being shot on Martha's vinyard fifty years
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Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Madison. Let us now introduce you
Speaker 2: to David Condon. David is the director of Natural Resources
Speaker 2: for the Town of Yarmouth, and we're going to talk
Speaker 2: about the boating season. Of course, the boating season is
Speaker 2: well underway, particularly after the last couple of days of
Speaker 2: high heat, humidity and humidity that we have had. But
Speaker 2: there's a change coming not this year but next year,
Speaker 2: requiring people who are operating motorized boats to obtain in
Speaker 2: advanced certification before they can get behind the wheel in
Speaker 2: a motorized boat. Dave Condon, Welcome to Nightside.
Speaker 5: How are you, sir, Yes, sir, good evening. Thank you
Speaker 5: for having me on. I really appreciate the call.
Speaker 2: Well, hopefully as we'll get people some information that they
Speaker 2: can use and get ready ready for the next boating season. Again,
Speaker 2: I want to emphasize that these new regulations which have
Speaker 2: been signed into law do not apply this summer, but
Speaker 2: they will apply in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 5: Correct, That's correct. So anybody who was born after January
Speaker 5: first of nineteen eighty nine must have the course completed
Speaker 5: by April first of twenty twenty six. Now the rest
Speaker 5: of us born before eighty nine don't have to have
Speaker 5: the certificate completed until April first of twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 5: So a couple of different dates to keep in mind.
Speaker 5: And the state even built in a little bit of
Speaker 5: a grace period so there won't be any citations there
Speaker 5: anything written for the first you know, a little bit
Speaker 5: of time after the rollout. But either way, those are
Speaker 5: the two dates that people need to keep in mind.
Speaker 2: All right, So let's talk about currently there are no regulations,
Speaker 2: so it doesn't matter. There must be like a driver's license,
Speaker 2: you can operate a boat, a motorized vessel, I assume
Speaker 2: under a certain age. Or is there no such limitation
Speaker 2: of that either.
Speaker 5: Well, there's a couple of things on the books now,
Speaker 5: so anybody who has the driver's licenses is obviously covered,
Speaker 5: good to go for operating a boat. But here in
Speaker 5: that age from twelve to sixteen, there's currently a voting
Speaker 5: safety class and take allowing you to operate a motorized
Speaker 5: boat again at the age of twelve. The personal watercraft,
Speaker 5: the jets, those are a little bit different and you have
Speaker 5: to be you have to have the class. If you're seventeen,
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, sixteen or seventeen, you have to have the
Speaker 5: class for that as well. Currently. But again, that's going
Speaker 5: to roll out to everybody here shortly.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I don't want to over confuse the situation,
Speaker 2: So let's come let's roll back to where we were.
Speaker 2: What was the need, what prompted the need for this legislation.
Speaker 2: I assumed that people have been operating motorized boats for
Speaker 2: a long time, perhaps even decades, without having had some
Speaker 2: sort of certification. Were there a couple of incidents or
Speaker 2: an incident that perhaps prompted this legislation.
Speaker 5: All right, well, there's certainly been plenty of incidents over
Speaker 5: the years. But the one that was kind of the
Speaker 5: crux of this whole thing that the act is called
Speaker 5: the Hanson Malone Act of twenty twenty four, and that
Speaker 5: was named for David Hanson, who was killed tragically in
Speaker 5: a voting accident back in twenty ten, and also named
Speaker 5: for the late Harvartmaster from Waymouth, Paul Malone, who was
Speaker 5: truly a champion for voting safety his entire career. You know,
Speaker 5: I knew Paul personally, and there wasn't a time he
Speaker 5: went to a meeting or an association event or something
Speaker 5: or other and he didn't talk about voting safety. And
Speaker 5: we should be pestering our legislative legislators, and we need
Speaker 5: to get out there and talk to the public. And
Speaker 5: he was truly a champion for voting safety. So the
Speaker 5: bill was named for those two. And you know, to
Speaker 5: be quite honest, I think it's kind of crazy it
Speaker 5: took as long as it did for Massachusetts to have
Speaker 5: some formal requirement for boat safety training. I mean, if
Speaker 5: you think about it, you can go just if you
Speaker 5: have the money, you can go in and buy a
Speaker 5: boat that might go sixty miles an hour and go
Speaker 5: out and operate. It was zero training. I mean, you
Speaker 5: couldn't do that with a car, so it seems crazy
Speaker 5: that for decades we were able to do that with
Speaker 5: a boat. So it's a long time coming. Matthias was
Speaker 5: one of the states that it was kind of late
Speaker 5: to the party, and I'm glad we're finally there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you anticipate my question, we are behind the curve.
Speaker 2: Why would that be? Who are the states that were
Speaker 2: leading the charge? Obviously we're not a around the year
Speaker 2: voting state like Florida, which states were at the head
Speaker 2: of this parade.
Speaker 5: As we tell we even New Hampshire has required a
Speaker 5: voting safety class for years right next door and they're voting.
Speaker 5: You know, season is potentially even shorter than ours. So,
Speaker 5: you know, I think it was a long time in
Speaker 5: the works. I think maybe, you know, Massachusetts wouldn't have
Speaker 5: been behind the curve. You know, it was not out
Speaker 5: of lack of effort. I mean, the Harvard master community,
Speaker 5: the police community, environmental police. So a starred has been
Speaker 5: pushing this for a long time. So it's not like
Speaker 5: this was an idea that was born yesterday. It's been
Speaker 5: a long time coming and just sort of you know,
Speaker 5: as things take shape and it takes time for it
Speaker 5: to come to fruition. And you know, we are a
Speaker 5: little bit behind the curve, but not for lack of trying.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also I must say that sometimes things up
Speaker 2: at the State House, even good proposals like this one
Speaker 2: and what I call them no brainers, they moved the
Speaker 2: pace of molasses up with our year round legislature. I
Speaker 2: becon ill.
Speaker 5: You know, that's just the nature of the beast. I
Speaker 5: think everybody understands that. And you know, like you said,
Speaker 5: even like this one it's a no brainer. It had
Speaker 5: a bunch of revisions, and it had you know, like
Speaker 5: any other bill would, and a lot of input from
Speaker 5: different parties, and you know, I think it might not
Speaker 5: be perfect, but it's certainly you know, step in the
Speaker 5: right direction.
Speaker 2: So for people who now want to get ahead of
Speaker 2: the curb, where do they have to go to get
Speaker 2: their certification in advance of next voting season twenty twenty six.
Speaker 5: Well, so those of us that already took this Voting
Speaker 5: Safety course. Like again, I remember I took it when
Speaker 5: I was twelve, all those years ago, so even that
Speaker 5: would have me covered even though it was decades ago.
Speaker 5: So anybody who's already taken the class, they'll be covered
Speaker 5: already if they can produce their certificate or try and
Speaker 5: get a copy in the state. And then as far
Speaker 5: as anybody who wants to doing a role in the
Speaker 5: course now, I think that the best place to start
Speaker 5: is the state Environmental Police website and they offer their
Speaker 5: own class and they also have links to all the
Speaker 5: approved courses that are taught by third parties as well,
Speaker 5: so you can either take the course in person with
Speaker 5: the Environmental Police or another authorized vendor, or you can
Speaker 5: even do it online. So if it's something you want
Speaker 5: to just get done and have the certificate, you can
Speaker 5: just go online, spend a couple hours doing the course
Speaker 5: and print out the certificate.
Speaker 2: And is there a cost associated with this?
Speaker 5: There is. I don't know the cost for the third
Speaker 5: party vendors that you know you might do online, but
Speaker 5: the Environmental Police course is very reasonable. I think it's
Speaker 5: you know, just a few dollars just to cover the
Speaker 5: cost of printing the certificate. There's other organizations like the
Speaker 5: count of Yarmouth where I work. We plan on offering
Speaker 5: the course for free to anybody who wants to take it.
Speaker 5: And you know, we would just charge for the actual
Speaker 5: printing and the certificate, not for the actual course. So
Speaker 5: there's a lot of organizations. The Harbourmaster Associations are you know,
Speaker 5: full force behind this. And you know, even as a
Speaker 5: member of the association, we're talking about rolling out the
Speaker 5: course ourselves. Just whatever we can do to get more
Speaker 5: people to take it from and make it as easy
Speaker 5: as possible.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, Dave, let me ask you this my last
Speaker 2: question you had the director of Natural Resources for the
Speaker 2: Town of Yarmouth. What general advice you're around the water.
Speaker 2: Obviously Yarmouth is on the cave twelve months out of
Speaker 2: the year. You know, the beauty of the water and
Speaker 2: also the danger of the water. What advice would you
Speaker 2: give to anyone who's going to even this year without
Speaker 2: the requirement of the certificate or certification. What advice would
Speaker 2: you give people if they're going to get out and
Speaker 2: in some way utilize.
Speaker 5: A boat whether Yeah, there's a couple of things that
Speaker 5: are very simple. Tell somebody where you're going, file a
Speaker 5: float plan, tell tell somebody who's not with you, where
Speaker 5: you're going, how long you're going to be gone, wear
Speaker 5: a life jacket, don't drink it or do any drugs,
Speaker 5: and operate the boat and you know those are the
Speaker 5: big ones. And then know your limits, you know, learn
Speaker 5: the boat that you're operating. Don't have that first time
Speaker 5: you use the boat the July fourth weekend, you know,
Speaker 5: take it out ahead of time. You know, get somebody
Speaker 5: to give you a hand and show you the ropes,
Speaker 5: and you know, just getting a little more sea time
Speaker 5: before you're taking out your family and racing around on
Speaker 5: a beautiful weekend.
Speaker 2: Sounds great. Dave. I appreciate your time. I think you've
Speaker 2: been part of a lot of important information across New
Speaker 2: England and for that matter of points beyond. I appreciate
Speaker 2: as always talking with you. Thanks again, we'll see that
Speaker 2: in Yarmouth.
Speaker 5: All right, thank you for the call.
Speaker 2: Dave gone to the director of Natural Resources for the
Speaker 2: town of Yarmouth. We get back, We're going to take
Speaker 2: you out to Martha's vineyard and talk with Kathy Mayown.
Speaker 2: I hope I'm pronouncing her last name correctly. We'll find
Speaker 2: out she's the managing director of the Martha's Vineyard Museum.
Speaker 2: And it is the fiftieth anniversary year of the movie Jaws,
Speaker 2: So we're going to get also some information on that.
Speaker 2: And also if you want to take a ride over
Speaker 2: to Martha's Viney and and sort of enjoy the ambience
Speaker 2: of the fiftieth anniversary of Jaws, will get you that
Speaker 2: information as well. Coming right back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: It's Nightside with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back everyone. I'd like to introduce all
Speaker 2: of you to Kathy Mayown. She's the managing director of
Speaker 2: the Martha's Vineyard Museum, celebrating the fiftieth anniversary of the
Speaker 2: movie Jaws, one of the most iconic films in really
Speaker 2: movie history. Kathy Mayow and welcome to Nightside. How are
Speaker 2: you hi? Dan?
Speaker 6: Thank you for having me on.
Speaker 2: You do you get to live on that beautiful island
Speaker 2: off the southeast coast of Massachusetts.
Speaker 6: I do it. It is a wonderful place to live.
Speaker 2: All right. So, and you're the you're the managing director
Speaker 2: of Martha's v Museum. Before we talk about Jaws, let's
Speaker 2: talk about the Martha's Vineyard museum, which community is it
Speaker 2: located in, and what sort of wonders does it have
Speaker 2: Because a lot of my listeners will be spending some time,
Speaker 2: maybe not the entire summer, unless they're really lucky, sometime
Speaker 2: over in Marth's Vineyard. I assume that the Martha's Vineyard
Speaker 2: Museum should be a trip, should be a stop on
Speaker 2: most people's visit to the Vineyard.
Speaker 6: Yes, absolutely, it's a great place to ground yourself in
Speaker 6: the island's history and in the islands culture. We are
Speaker 6: a history and a culture museum. We are based in
Speaker 6: Vineyard Haven. It's a ten minute walk from the vineyard
Speaker 6: Haven Ferry, so if you don't bring a car, you
Speaker 6: can just get off the ferry and walk over to us.
Speaker 6: We are based in the Marine hospe the old Marine Hospital,
Speaker 6: which was built in the late eighteen hundreds and so
Speaker 6: it's a beautiful old historic building. After it was the
Speaker 6: marine hospital, it was a summer camp for kids, and
Speaker 6: then the museum purchased it and really renovated it and
Speaker 6: preserved it, and we moved into it in twenty nineteen
Speaker 6: and have been in it ever since. We also still
Speaker 6: have our old property down in Edgartown. The cook House property.
Speaker 6: But this really is our main campus and there are
Speaker 6: exhibits that we have all the time. Our wonderful Frenelle Lens,
Speaker 6: which is an old lighthouse lens that came out of
Speaker 6: the Aquinna Lighthouse. The stories behind that lens, how we
Speaker 6: had to how the Aquinna Lighthouse had to be moved
Speaker 6: at one point in time because the cliffs were eroding.
Speaker 6: We have stories about the local island history, the people
Speaker 6: of the islands, shipwrecks. Have a great room for kids
Speaker 6: as well called hands on History, and we have a
Speaker 6: wonderful cafe and a wonderful view as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have been in the I have been in
Speaker 2: the Aquinna Lighthouse on several occasions, walking up to the
Speaker 2: top and it's a that's a sight to see in
Speaker 2: of itself. So how excited are all you vineyards about
Speaker 2: the return of Jaws Mania. I suspect that there's probably
Speaker 2: a bit of a split amongst people who are on
Speaker 2: the island. Uh, there's a There's there's an aspect of
Speaker 2: people over there who I think like to be associated
Speaker 2: with the movie, and there's there's another group who aren't
Speaker 2: particularly happy about that. Or have I read the island wrong?
Speaker 6: You know, I think most people are coming around. I
Speaker 6: think in general you're right, But I keep get hearing
Speaker 6: more and more excitement.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: It's so funny because I would talk to Jaws fans
Speaker 6: and they would know every single event that we're having
Speaker 6: on the island, and then I would talk to my
Speaker 6: local island and they wouldn't know of any of them.
Speaker 6: But slowly people are starting to hear of all of
Speaker 6: the different events that we're going to have on the island.
Speaker 6: Of course, we've had a lot of news and press
Speaker 6: about our exhibition, our Jaws at fifty A Deeper Dive
Speaker 6: at the museum. We just opened the exhibit Memorial Day weekend.
Speaker 6: I've had a lot of local press and now a
Speaker 6: lot of local Islanders coming in to see it. So
Speaker 6: people are now, I think, getting excited, and they're starting
Speaker 6: to hear just more and more. How the world is
Speaker 6: excited about this celebration.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you it's certainly an interesting time. So
Speaker 2: fifty years ago this week they were beginning to shoot
Speaker 2: the movie. As I understand, the coincidence of fifty years
Speaker 2: this week is not the opening of the movie. And
Speaker 2: if I'm wrong, please feel free to tell me.
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, so yeah, So the opening of the movie
Speaker 6: was on June twentieth, nineteen seventy five. Gotcha, they were
Speaker 6: shooting the movie a year before. But the actual premiere
Speaker 6: and the premiere, there was a premiere on the island.
Speaker 6: In fact, in the museum's exhibit we have a couple
Speaker 6: of the old posters. It was to benefit the Martha's
Speaker 6: Vineyard Hospital. We had a lot of our local celebrities
Speaker 6: turn out for it. James Taylor and Carly Simon showed up,
Speaker 6: and we have pictures in our exhibits from that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, our book, our book Weld I assume must
Speaker 2: have been there as well.
Speaker 6: I'm assuming so, I you know, I haven't seen my picture.
Speaker 2: You know. I mean he was always around, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: So the point that, and again I thank you for
Speaker 2: the correction. So the movie, this was the This was
Speaker 2: the fiftieth anniversary of the movie. Yes, and it was
Speaker 2: obviously shot a year a year in advance.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I get that.
Speaker 2: Over the years is this is this is one of
Speaker 2: those movies that everyone has seen. I mean, yes, I
Speaker 2: don't care who you are, everyone has seen it. Some
Speaker 2: of the great lines. We're going to need a bigger boat,
Speaker 2: all of that that we've watched over the years for
Speaker 2: a long time, there was there were remnants of the
Speaker 2: boat that was used. It was left on the other
Speaker 2: end of the island. If it wasn't in Aquinna, I'm
Speaker 2: blaming there Is that still there? Or has nature had
Speaker 2: its way?
Speaker 6: If you know from what I've heard, nature has had
Speaker 6: its way, and that you know, if you go to
Speaker 6: some of the site you may be able to find
Speaker 6: some sort of remnant. I don't know, but I think
Speaker 6: nature has had its way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I mean it's it's since it is the
Speaker 2: fiftieth anniversary this year, are any of the actors or
Speaker 2: actresses making return visits? Tell us about just the summer.
Speaker 2: Is this going to be noted here in June and
Speaker 2: then the town's going to the island's going to move on?
Speaker 2: Or are there some visit visits planned? Tell us flush
Speaker 2: it out for us.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, there certainly are going to be activities going
Speaker 6: on all summer long, especially at the museum. Our exhibit
Speaker 6: is running through September seventh, and so we are expecting
Speaker 6: a steaighty steady steam stream. There's also the Shark is
Speaker 6: Broken is going to be coming and playing on the
Speaker 6: island in July. I have my tickets already for that.
Speaker 6: I'm excited about that. Our fourth of July parade is
Speaker 6: certainly going to have lots of voz steamed things in
Speaker 6: it as well, But certainly the big weekend is going
Speaker 6: to be the weekend of July twentieth, and so at
Speaker 6: the museum we have what we're calling from June nineteenth
Speaker 6: to the twenty third Amity home Coming weekend, and so
Speaker 6: we've really designed a weekend so that we could bring
Speaker 6: together the international Jaws community that's coming to the island
Speaker 6: with the local islanders and really have a homecoming of sorts.
Speaker 6: So we do have a number of speakers lined up.
Speaker 6: You were asking about actors. Jeffrey Kramer is coming to
Speaker 6: the island. He played Deputy Hendricks. He'll be doing a
Speaker 6: talk at the museum. Joe Alves, who was of course
Speaker 6: the production designer behind it, he's coming. He'll be doing
Speaker 6: a talk as well as many appearances throughout the island
Speaker 6: that weekend. We have a lot of other relatives and
Speaker 6: descendants from some of the actors, So you.
Speaker 2: Have a nephew of Robert Quinn, one of the great actors,
Speaker 2: also Wendy Benchley. Yeah, is there a relation there, I
Speaker 2: assume to. So.
Speaker 6: Wendy Benchley is the wife of Peter Benchley, who you know.
Speaker 6: Peter since passed on, But Wendy was also at our
Speaker 6: opening exhibition event. She always has a great draw and
Speaker 6: you know her her big focus. After Peter wrote the
Speaker 6: book and the movie came out, they were very distressed
Speaker 6: how shark's really shark hunting increased after that, and so
Speaker 6: they went on a big mission for shark conservation and
Speaker 6: that's also a focus in our exhibition. But Wendy will
Speaker 6: be doing a talk about shark conservation.
Speaker 2: Well, this is great, always so great to talk with you, Kathley. Kathy,
Speaker 2: and I wish you a wonderful summer on the island.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we're going to get over there
Speaker 2: this year, but we spent many summers over there, way
Speaker 2: out on Aquinna Okay, my favorite part of the island.
Speaker 6: Kathy, Yeah, come come visit us and look me up
Speaker 6: the them.
Speaker 2: I will the managing director of the Marthur's Vineyard Museum.
Speaker 2: Requisite required stop. I think for anyone who gets off
Speaker 2: the boat at Vineyard Haven, walk to the amp and
Speaker 2: take a left, and I think you'll be pretty close
Speaker 2: to where you want to be. Thanks so much, Wendy,
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you, thank you like to be Kathy.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry you I was thinking of Wendy Benchley. Thanks
Speaker 2: very much. Coming we'll talk saying okay, thanks. Here comes
Speaker 2: to nine o'clock News, and when we get back, we're
Speaker 2: going to go to the talk portion of our program
Speaker 2: beginning at nine o'clock. And there's a couple a couple
Speaker 2: of things I like to talk about. Certainly gonna want
Speaker 2: to talk about the Trump Musk divorce that I think
Speaker 2: is it's not final yet, but I think it's it's
Speaker 2: almost final.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And then I also want to talk about the indictment
Speaker 2: that came down today against the Maryland man who now
Speaker 2: has been returned to the United States, not probably under
Speaker 2: the circumstances that he or as lawyers had envisioned. My name,
Speaker 2: this is My name is Dan Ray. This is Nightside.
Speaker 2: Be right back right after the nine o'clock news.