Speaker 1: Hey, y'all, we're on break and hope you're enjoying the
holidays too. But just in case you're missing your daily
dose of The Chicks, we have something special for you.
Speaker 2: We hope you enjoy this replay of one of our
favorite interviews and make sure to tune in this year
from some exciting new ones that we have coming up.
Welcome to another deep dive edition of The Chicks on
the Right Show. And man, do we ever have a
treat for everybody. Today we have Carrie Lake, who is
of course running for governor in the great state of Arizona.
Carrie Lake, thank you so much for being with us.
Speaker 3: I'm so excited. I feel like I know you too,
so it's great to be sitting here with you.
Speaker 1: We're delighted to have you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely delighted, and so lots and lots of questions.
But right out of the gate, we always like to
get to know people a little bit that we have
on our show, and we thought a really just an
interesting part or an interesting story about you that I
don't actually know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Daisy knows.
Speaker 2: Is what has has taken you on this journey. And
it's not a word that We're a huge fan of journey.
But what is taking you on this journey from media star?
I mean, you were You've been a broadcaster a journalist
for years. What took you from that career into the
world of politics?
Speaker 3: It is, it's such an unlikely, crazy story, to be honest,
I mean, I never ever envisioned myself running for office.
My goodness, are you kidding? I was blessed to have
a twenty seven year career as an honest journalist covering Arizona,
and my integrity as a journalist allowed me to move
up the career ladder, and I was the number one
news anchor in Arizona for twenty two years at the
Fox affiliate and just blessed beyond belief to be able
to have that career and talk to the people of
Arizona every day, get to know the issues that we
face as a state, in such a beautiful state. I
grew up in Iowa, the youngest of nine kids and
had to work hard for everything I had, and so
I worked hard to work and make it in this career.
And then during I kind of woke up and went, Wow,
it's all propaganda. There's no interest in helping people and
putting out information that will bring us together, that will
tell us about early treatments. And then the election happened
and I just felt like it was getting harder and
harder to maintain that honesty that I had with the
people of Arizona. So I walked away from my career
from a huge paycheck. I'd been doing really well, number
one anchor for twenty two years and one of the
biggest TV markets. You have a nice paycheck at that point,
but I just stepped away from it all. I asked
God to lead me. I said, I know I can't
do this anymore. It's becoming immoral, and I'm putting my
life in your hands. And really, for the first time
in my life, I did that. Even though I'm a
woman of faith, I always had a little bit of
control in my life, like if I work hard, I
can make it happen. And I truly just said God,
I'm yours, and do with me what you will. And
I put a video out to the people of Arizona
letting them know why I was leaving. I didn't want
them to think I was just resigning to pursue other opportunities,
and I got thousands upon thousands of messages, and one
of the common denominators in those messages was an ask
for me to run for office, which is kind of
funny because I was leading the corrupt worldy of media
and they wanted me to go into the even more
corrupt world of politics. I thought, okay, they must think
I'm crazy. And at first I thought, oh, hell no,
I'm never going to do that because we know how
ugly it is and how terrible it is. But then
I realized the request for people in Arizona asking me
to run for office. I thought it was God's way
of kind of tapping me on the shoulder and saying,
this is what I opened you up for. And I
think it was I really do, because from day one
I didn't even know how to run for office. I
called the Arizona GOP and I said, how do you
run for office? It's not something that everyday citizens do,
but it's something that everyday citizens should do, because if
you remember, our founding fathers envisioned the real people stepping
forward to represent their fellow citizens, not I think career politicians.
They didn't even know what career politicians were. They probably
would have put something in the constitution banning it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 3: So we jumped into the race the first time that
I can remember covering Arizona where we've just had a
real person, a citizen politician, running for office for the
governor's office. And we from day one have been just soaring.
It's been amazing. We've got a movement that people are
so excited. It only took us three weeks to get
enough signatures to be on the ballot. Typically that takes
nine months. We did it in three weeks. We didn't
pay for a single signature, and we have a real
movement over thirty thousand small donors everyday, people putting twenty
bucks in fifty one hundred and fifty because they know
that I am going to be a governor of the people.
My special interest group is the people of Arizona, and
we've not had a governor who's truly been on a
mission to help Arizonas for a long time.
Speaker 1: US awesome. So we we have a lot of people
that follow us that didn't start out as conservative and
then they listen to us, they watch us, and they convert.
You know, we've actually we're kind of proud of that
because you know, they get to know us, and then
they're like these these chicks don't suck, you know, and
hear what we have to say and they're like, Okay,
this makes a lot of sense. Common sense exactly. Common
sense makes sense. So we know, I mean, at least
from what I've read, you didn't start out as a conservative,
kind of like Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan didn't become a
Republican until he was what fifty one years old? And
I actually I didn't know that fifty one fifty one
and I read I read an article about you that
that actually compared you to Reagan, of all people, who
is one of my favorites. And there are a lot
of a lot of things about you, like your Midwest
upbringing and your media background and how you moved out
west and you know, you had your pivotal moment, you know,
how you were like you know, you're all called and
things like that. So I thought it was interesting that
the comparison, but how you started out and you weren't
a conservative to start.
Speaker 3: So what was it?
Speaker 2: That was it?
Speaker 1: Just like how everything has been so crazy in our country?
Speaker 3: Is that what brought me? Ronald Reagan was really a
childhood hero of mine. I grew up an hour away
from him, obviously a few decades apart, and he was
the president of my formative years. He was a president
from when I was ten until I was eighteen. And
you know, there's a lot of false information out about me,
but I have been a registered Republican almost my entire life.
I registered as a Republican because of Ronald Reagan at
the age of eighteen, form my very first election that
I got to vote in. And I've been a registered
Republican almost my entire life, except for four years when
I registered as a Democrat and two years when I
registered as an independent. And I'm currently a registered Republican obviously.
But during that time between Ronald Reagan and Donald J. Trump,
we watched as our political leaders, the Democrats and the Republicans,
kind of morphed into one big swampy Uni party yung.
And they're attacking me for voting Democrat at a point,
and my response is, what were our choices? I had
two babies, one on either hip. My kids are about
a year and a half apart. I'm watching the Iraq
war rage on which should have never been started. It
started on false pretenses, and we were lied to, and
I'm looking at these two candidates that were given and
I'm saying, which one will end this war? This endless war?
And I'd covered John McCain as a journalist here in Arizona,
and I knew for certain it wasn't going to be him,
and so I took a chance on a new guy,
and it didn't work out. It didn't work out well.
We were excited about first black president. We thought that
we'd see this country come together, and I do believe
this country can come together, by the way, but it
didn't work out. So it's funny, though they have no
dirt on me, so they try to manufacture all this
stuff that's completely bonkers. And the funniest thing is my opponent.
At a moment in our history, Guys, when we're watching
people wake up by the millions, people are like, oh
my gosh, they're waking up to the lives of the
Democrat Party. We've got this ridiculous nursing home patient in
the White House who can't do anything right, and people
are waking up to the madness. And I've got my
opponent who's married to a ninety five year old billionaire
with the blank check running ads attacking Democrats for waking up.
It's the most crazy thing ever. I want to tell people.
If you've woken up, come on over, I want your vote.
Welcome to the Republican Party. Welcome to the America First Party.
We want your vote. You don't have to stop at
the Independent Party. Just come right over to the Republican Party.
We're going to grow it into the biggest pro America
America First Republican party ever.
Speaker 2: I love that you just in that few minutes, you
answered so many of my questions already.
Speaker 3: Because one I was that have coffee and we'll just chat.
Speaker 1: Exactly I'd think of the same thing. I'm thinking the
same thing.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, the Arizona primary was what like two
weeks away. It's on August second, and you mentioned your primary.
Speaker 3: Is that wrong? We have election season out here, We
vote for twenty seven days. Isn't that Oh my gosh,
this is why it's so corrupt. As a matter of fact,
I'm not on the I'm not on the early voting
or mail in voting list, and I double checked four
times to make sure I wasn't on it. Obviously, I
want to show up at the polls and vote and
look what arrived in my mailbox, a mail in ballot.
We have screwed up elections out here, and we're going
to make sure we sort it out and figure it
out and fix it when I am a governor. So yeah,
I got a mail in ballot. Unfortunately, we vote for
twenty seven days in Arizona.
Speaker 2: Oh my right.
Speaker 3: It allow us for a lot of loopholes for cheating
for sure. Well, I was going to ask.
Speaker 2: So the official date is August second for in person voting.
And I know, so your primary opponent, Karen Taylor, is
it robson or robesin. I don't even know how to
say it rob okay, So you.
Speaker 3: Know, actually that's a good we should call her Robson
because she's been robbing. To be honest, her fundraising scheme
has been robbing senior citizens. I just uncovered this last week,
robbing senior citizens out of their hard earned money. And
you know, these senior citizens are on Social Security, and
she's robbing them out of campaign donations, tricking them. They
don't even realize they're donating to her. They think they're
making donations to help build the wall in Texas or
help President Trump. And she's you know, you click on
the link and next thing you know, you're donating to
her in a recurring monthly donation. And she's had more
refund requests than any other campaign that we've ever heard
of in politics. Twelve hundred people demanding refunds because they've
gotten caught up in this unethical fundraising scheme that she's pulling. Robson.
Robson might be the perfect way to describe her. Wow.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, so I know that in just recent weeks,
in the last several days, she has managed to nab
some heavy hitting endorsements Doug Doucy, the current governor, Mike
Pence as another. So what do you want people who
are looking at the two of you, what do you
want them to know would be different about how you
would govern?
Speaker 3: Well, if people like the way our current governor is
handling the border, which is to sit by and watch
it be wide open, allow fentanyl to pour in, allow
the cartels to have control, then they might like her.
She's got a border plan which is similar to our
current governor, Doug Doocey's border plan, which is do nothing
and allow the cartels to walk all over you. And
we're not going to do that anymore. We're America first,
We're Arizona first, and so we're at crossroads right now.
Guys in Arizona and most people don't understand what the
political history of Arizona is. But for the last forty
years or so, thirty or forty years, we have been
watching as the McCain and mafia, the McCain machine runs
the show in Arizona, and we the people don't have
a say. She represents that Rhino McCain machine where the
people don't matter, and I represent America first. Somebody in
the media said it's a if you want four more
years of Trump, you'll vote for Kerry Lake. If you
want four more years of Deucey, you'll vote for Karen Robson,
and frankly, I think they're right. You know, Doug Deucey
is not a popular governor. He's the I think it's
the third least popular governor. The only governors less popular
than him are the governor of Oregon and Hawaii, and
those are two states that have just been ravaged by
outrageous Democrat policy. He's the he's the least popular governor.
Many people have said his endorsement is the kiss of death.
He shut our businesses down, and he shut our economy
down twice in Arizona, he shut our schools down and
masked our children. And people will not forgive him for that.
People will likely.
Speaker 1: I live in Texas, and it's like those people who
are making those roles, you know that, like people like Doucy,
they don't have to they don't have to deal with
their policies. This is the thing. I mean, it's like,
what are the two million illegals are going to come
across the border?
Speaker 3: What is it right here?
Speaker 1: And it's utter insanity. Carrie so and we.
Speaker 3: His endorsement, he endorsed her. He's just worried because he
knows I'm going to go in there and we're gonna
we're gonna do all the things he should have done,
and he's going to look bad and we're going to
find out who is behind the corruption in our elections.
And maybe he's nervous about that. But he said she's
got a great plan on the border, and I wanted
to pull my hair out. I thought, if it's such
a great plan, then why don't you do it right now?
You're the governor doing.
Speaker 1: Why hasn't it Why hasn't it been done? Why hasn't
it been done yet already?
Speaker 3: Yeah, her plan was written by the same consultants that
he used, the high price McCain consultants. It's it's just
six talking points and it's a whole lot of nothing.
My plan has been written by and we worked tirelessly
with the very best minds in border security and in
the Constitution. Our border plan is called Defend Arizona, and
it is the boldest, most aggressive border plan in this
country's history. And that's what it's going to take because
what it is, basically in basic terms, is we're using
the Constitution to save our country. The Article four, Section
four guarantee clause of the Constitution requires that the federal
government protect us from invasion and protect our borders. And
they're failing to do that. It's a dereliction of duty. Absolutely.
So our plan just goes right to the remedy. It's
written in the Constitution. Thank god for our fore founders,
because they were brilliant. Article one, section ten has a remedy,
which is when we are being invaded and in imminent danger,
the states can step forward and take control of their borders.
And we're going to do that on day one when
I issue a declaration of invasion and we put boots
on the ground at that border and we push this
cartel out of our state.
Speaker 1: God precisely. It doesn't sound good. Yeah, I mean, I,
like I said, I'm in Texas and I'm tired of it.
I'm just tired of it because I worry for my kid.
Speaker 3: You know, it's not brain surgery. It's just it's right
there in the Constitution. And of course the Left will fight,
and Joe Biden will thrash around and he may try
to stop us, and we will take this right up
to the Supreme Court, and we're going to win because
it's in black and white. There's nothing more basic than
what it says in the Constitution.
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Speaker 2: So, Carrie, I have four family members in Tucson, my parents,
my sister and brother, in law who are there, and
they are they are undecided right now between you and
your opponent. So, and you know, one of the one
of the questions that my dad had for me to
ask you, you've already answered, which is, how does she
explain her previous votes for Democrats? And I think you
did a perfectly fine job answering why that vote was
important to you and what you where your mind was
at the time. But what are what are the other
things that they should know about you that perhaps the media,
for example, has gotten wrong, because I know they're digging
all the dirt. They're like trying to pick fights with
you and like drag queens and stuff. What do you
want to set something straight about?
Speaker 3: Well, I first want to say, and I talked to
President Trump all the time. I tell them, I go, wow,
I'm getting the Trump treatment. I mean, it's just one
attack piece after the next, after the next. I am
public enemy number one for the deep state, the swamp,
however you want to put it. I'm an existential threat
to them. Arizona is such a big important state for
them to remain in control, and especially being a border
state where they run drugs and things like that. So
they're really worried about us, and the press is writing
one hit piece after the next after the next, and
most of them are full of lies. They don't want
to write about our policy. We have the best policy
in the country. I mean, our homeless plan is great,
our education plan is phenomenal, our water plan is terrific.
And it's all plans that Democrats, independents and Republicans can
get behind. So they don't want to write about that
because they don't want to make us any more popular
than we already are. We're up ahead by double digits.
My opponent, who is married to a billionaire, will have
poured twenty six million dollars of her husband's money in
by election day to try to stop us. So she's
putting all these deceptive ads out, unfortunately, and she's trying
to detract from my history, which is a history of
someone who loves this country and loves Arizona. But she's
trying to detract from what she's really been up to.
She's accusing me of making a three hundred dollars donation
fifteen years ago to a Democrat, when the fact of
the matter is, in just the last couple of years
she's made thousands of dollars in donations to the most
radical socialist liberals in Arizona, including a guy we call
the AOC of Arizona, Reuben Diego. She's his top donor,
and so she's deflecting. When she was appointed to the
Arizona Board of Regents, which is the governing board for
Arizona's public universities, she voted to raise tuition and fees
seventy plus times. That's hard on the people of Arizona.
She voted to spend taxpayer money to hire a lobbyists
to go down to our state capitol and fight one
of the most groundbreaking pieces of pro life legislation we've
ever seen in this state. She voted to expand gun
control rules and laws on our campuses and take away
Second Amendment rights of faculty and adult students. And she
actually had the gall during BLM, as our country was
burning and people were attacking this great nation and tearing
down statues to say this is quote. We've got a
country that none of us are all that proud of.
We've got a history that none of us are all
that proud of. She has been part of the Board
of Regents when they turned Arizona State, U of A,
and NAU into woke universities. And so she's trying to
hide from her very liberal record and deflect and accuse
me of everything she's done. And she has a voting record.
I don't. I was a private citizen. I don't have
a voting record. She does, and it's dismal, and it's
right there on our website Carrielake dot com. We laid
it all out and we put it on our website
so people can see who she really is. I don't
have a billionaire husband to allow me to run ads
ad nauseum across the airwaves like she does. But I
guarantee you this to your father and your relatives. We
will have an open border with her. She's an open
borders globalist and it will be a continuation of the
border policy we have. And she will never ever restore
integrity to our elections because she doesn't even think our
elections were corrupt.
Speaker 1: Well that was a pretty good explanation.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, pretty good. You just triggered.
Speaker 1: Yeah there, Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 3: Okay, So this is a.
Speaker 1: Total fluff question because we do this and we have
people on that are running for office, and that are conservatives.
And I think that you know, like like mok set,
a lot of stuff has been written about you that
is obviously untrue. But I want to know like you personally,
Like what do you like to do? Like what are
some of the things that you enjoy that you like
to do? There are some of your hobbies that people
don't know about you, Carrie, Because my heart's.
Speaker 3: Sitting right here and he's chuckling because you know I
we used to have a lot of fun. I lived
a care free life. I raised my children, there's seventeen
and nineteen now. I came from a large family in Iowa,
the youngest of nine, eight girls and one boy. And
I've worked hard my whole life. I've I've always had
to work. If we wanted toothpaste in shampoo, we had
to work for it. I've been working babysitting when I
was seven, which is probably too young, and so I've
worked really hard. I've got a good work at it.
Speaker 1: But when you had free time, what did you like
to do in your free time? Well, because I know
you don't have any now.
Speaker 3: Every once in a while, I'll tell the campaign, Hey,
I'd like to have a day off I try to
take Sundays off, and it's hard to find that level
of relaxation to do something fun because I feel that
we are in the middle of a battle. It's like,
can you imagine being in the middle of a war
and you are in the middle of a battle, and
you say, okay, guys, let's all, let's all just take
a day off and we'll you know, we'll go to
the mall, we'll do something. We're in the middle of
a fight here, and I'm having a hard time just
taking time off to enjoy life. But I am putting
trying to enjoy what we do in this campaign, and
that's connecting with the great people of Arizona. I used
to golf. I took up golf during COVID and I
was actually getting a little bit good at it, to
the point where I got rid of my thrift store
at golf clubs and actually bought some decent clubs. And
then I jumped into the Governor's race and I've only
used them twice. I haven't had a chance.
Speaker 1: Well, hold on, Jim, you never know. You may get
another day off here.
Speaker 3: Sometimes then, and my kids are teenagers, seventeen and nineteen,
so we used to do a lot as family together,
but now they kind of want to do their own thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a pretty we can relate. We both have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody asks, what's it like having your mom run
for office? She's gone on time, and my son's like, yeah,
it's great. She's not home, she's not nagging me.
Speaker 1: Right, ask him again in a couple of years and
helping differently.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Well, And Carria, you mentioned being in the fight, and
I know that's one of the things that people who
love you really love you because of your fight. And
that is the same thing that that's the same quality
that they loved so much about President Trump too, is
that he was not afraid. He was not going to
be a doormat to anyone. He was not going to
pull any punches. He said all the things, which leads
me to have to ask, you've got to fill us
in on this Meghan McCain fight.
Speaker 3: Because she has blocked us.
Speaker 2: She blocked us on Twitter forever ago.
Speaker 3: What in the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, record, and I like the nickname Maverick. For the record,
I think that's you, and we're going to call you
that from here.
Speaker 3: It was so funny because actually I was down in Tucson.
We were at a place called the Maverick and if
you're from Tucson, it's been around for I think they
said fifty or sixty years. It's a really cool live
music I want to say bar, but it's kind of
It's a place where they hold huge events, five hundred
plus people and we were there packed crowd, standing room only,
and you know, talking about saving Arizona and saving America.
And something triggered her and she called me the B
word and said, if you're going to steal my my
father's nickname, and I'm like, I get off the stage.
We had a great rally, we talked about our promises
to Arizona, the ten big things we want to do,
and I find out that she's been calling me the
B word and attacking me, and I'm like, what the
heck triggered her? Well, she got it wrong. She thought
because the location where we were was called the Maverick,
that I was feeling her father's nickname. She soon deleted
the tweet, but she continued to go after me for days,
calling me a hag and all sorts of terrible names.
And it's sad because I think they're realizing they're becoming
irrelevant and that the people aren't interested in and where
they are. I mean, remember the mccains are the ones
who turned on Republicans. Yeah yeah, and so you know,
no love lost. I will say this, Megan, if you're watching,
when I am governor, we are going to have America First,
Arizona First, policies that are going to be so awesome
for this state that even you will be living a
life that's better and and things will be better for
you as well. Look at you, unifying, look at that.
Speaker 1: I know, I know it's way better than what we
would have done.
Speaker 3: I think she's person, maybe a sad person, and I
actually I do pray for her. I hope that she
finds some peace within.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fake you Carrie that because I really wanted to
know the dirt on that story. I'd read the articles
and I was just like, how did she get this
so wrong? Because I saw that you were at a
location called the Maverick, and I thought, oh man, that
was that was a really sad misunderstanding, kind of weird.
Speaker 1: The whole thing was kind of weird. Yeah, But I
do like I think that it actually looten. Nobody owns
that nickname. I think it's still a cool nickname. I
think that actually it's suits you.
Speaker 3: I'll stick with ultra maga.
Speaker 1: How's that that's cool.
Speaker 3: I'm going to show you our new poster that we
put out, which is great. Somebody said it looks very
ultra maga.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love it. I just love it.
Speaker 3: This is the Arizona state flag and I had a
T shirt on that day and we just we did
kind of a fun photo and then somebody made it
into one of our one of our supporters made it
into a post, which we call the Ultra Ultra Mego poster.
Speaker 1: I mean, dare I say it's a badass, It's completely bad.
I love it.
Speaker 3: Carry thank you so much.
Speaker 2: We want to be I know you've got a lot
to get to and so we want to be respectful
of your time. I hope that I run into you
when I'm in Tucson in late August, so maybe I'll
reach out to your folks and see where you are.
Speaker 3: And if we're doing we're.
Speaker 1: Doing our meet and greet there too next spring, so
hopefully maybe we'll be able to. Yeah, so maybe we
can like connect with your people, and who knows, maybe
we can visit you then, so that would be like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, my final message to your listeners, and they
sound like a fun group as if you are in Arizona,
make sure you fill that ballot out. If you've got
the ballot sitting on your counter or wherever the ballot is,
make sure you fill the ballot out.
Speaker 1: That's exactly right.
Speaker 2: Carry Thank you so much, Thank you appreciate your time.
Speaker 3: Thanks ladies, we'll see we'll see you later.
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