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This was a last minute thing as of this afternoon,
when the unfortunate news hit that the legend, as you know,
we do, the ten dolls lout at the top of
the show every time somebody important dies. Uh, Steve the
Colonel Cropper passed away, and I was planning on tonight,
so this is what the show was going to be tonight.
I was going to talk about because today is this
fifty seventh anniversary of the sixty eight Comeback, the NBC
Elvis Special as they called it, and I was going
to talk about that, and then I put a thing out,
you know the shows you've seen best opening song, and
we're going to move that to the Patreon tomorrow. But
Joe Agello plays with Burton Cummings and now, because of
the recent news, is a full blown member of the
guests who so.
Speaker 2: Congratulations, thank you, thank you, sir dude.
Speaker 1: It's good to have you back. Yes, yes, good again,
sadly again under horrible circumstances. I think time Iron was
when Edward died.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I believe so. Well, in the words
of the King, it's been a long time. Jack.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to the Elvis thing in a second.
I do want to talk the main reason I wanted
to get you on, well, obviously the Elvis thing, because
we're both fucking Elvis storks. But you know, Steve, the
Colonel Cropper, and as we do this at the top
of the show every week, every every every night, Greg
went for the working man for the Colonel Cropper.
Speaker 2: Oh man, I forgot my my beer.
Speaker 1: Dude, that's all good. My first refreshing sip here. God,
I love beer. You've been you've been to Nashville for
a few years now, and ye crop is you know,
he's a Nashville staple. Have you Did you get a
chance to run into him at all?
Speaker 2: No? No, I did go to the Stacks Museum last
year when we were on the road, and that was great.
That was as close as I could get to him.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Right, But I mean, obviously, you know, R and B
and soul music is a big part of my my history,
and he's you know, they don't make him better than
than than him.
Speaker 1: No, I said today to somebody, it's like he's the
he's the real slow hand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you think about it, if if you're
listening to this and you're not really familiar with Steve
the Colonel Cropper, Oh I saw him in the Blues Brothers, Well,
let me tell you, my friends, it goes a lot
deeper than that. I mean, you just the first paragraph
of the of the Wikipedia guitarist of Stack Record's house
band Booker T and the MG's, which backed artists like
Otis Redding Wilson Pickett, Sam and Dave, Carla, Thomas, Rufus Thomas,
Johnny Taylor and of course you know part of the
band that could turn goat piss into gasoline, the Blues Brothers.
When did you when did crop come on to your radar?
Speaker 2: Right right in the beginning. You know, my my dad
Well is an audio file. So my house was like
a record store, and that's what that's what was spinning.
It was all Elvis. It was a lot of duop music,
Dion and the Belmonts, but a lot of Motown and
a lot of Stacks Stammon, Dave, you know, otis ready
doc of the Bay, you know, hold On I'm coming.
I used to love that song as a kid, and
you know, of course the early Saturday night live you know,
seeing seeing them, you know, the Blues Brothers, you know.
So yeah, I mean when I was you know, basically
out of the womb, you know, And I always loved
that kind of guitar playing, even before I was really
a guitar player, you know, when I was a baby,
you know, the first kind of things that I could
pick out on the guitar were like one note R
and b licks. I didn't even know what I was doing,
you know. So I couldn't play chords, but I could
play a lot of that stuff, you know, So I
guess it was sort of more of an influence than
I even realized, you know, until I got older.
Speaker 1: It's so funny because Crop came onto my radar because
of the Blues Brothers, And it's so weird that just
a fucking movie can open up your whole musical, you know.
Library Now now it's like the best of Sam and Dave.
That a track that was in the Bluesmobile that I
am that vinyl and it's my god, that's so fucking good.
And then you realize that he played on almost all
that shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you feel like you're in the room.
You know we went to Obviously they recreated the studio
in the museum, and but you just still feel it,
you know, when they played the music, it's like they're
they're in there, you know, and you know, we're very
we're very far away from that kind of music these days.
Speaker 1: You know, the Stax Museum, it's in Memphis. It's in Memphis, Okay,
except I've been I've been to uh.
Speaker 2: Motown.
Speaker 1: No, dude, why am I fucking drawing a blank. It's
the most famous one. Elvis Sun Studios.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah they're not They're not too far away
from each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did. I mean when I was down there
and I you know, I went to Sun, I had
no idea. But that was before I dove into everything,
you know, So I had no idea that Stax Museum
was even there. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it used to be on Beal Street, I remember,
and they moved it a little, a little out out
the way, you know. But yeah, we we went there
and we went straight to Graceline after that. My millions
time of going. But yeah, yeah, it was a good day. Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's just it's just weird. It's like, you know,
when Ace died, I'm still not over it. Yeah, you know,
I mean that's but but the thing, yes.
Speaker 2: No, the thing with Ace, I think, you know, we
got all we could get from him, you know. Yeah,
and you know he left this earth with giving us
all the gifts that that he could give us.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Well look, my h my guitar player in the in
the Vegas version of Act attribute to Ace Frailey, which
is playing the night after Christmas here in Las Vegas,
a Ace Raeli remembered the show and a big fucking
kiss jam at the end of it. So come on out.
Tickets are only ten dollars. Hit up at Ace tribute
on the Twitter and the Facebook and get all those links.
But uh, my guitar player Keith Robert war who's been
on this show, and he plays with a kiss tribute
called One Last Kiss. He said it best in a text, right,
he goes without a there's no loss.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't realize how deep that goes because no kiss. Yeah,
that would probably be you know, slinging fucking burgers, flipping
burgers in Sheboygan somewhere.
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, he was to me, he was kiss.
That's why I listened.
Speaker 1: So yeah, he was the real fucking rock stars kiss.
He's the key.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah. Well, God bless them, God bless him.
We had him. We had him as long as we
needed him.
Speaker 1: Right, right. Have you heard anything about what happened with Crop?
I mean he was eighty four years old. I heard
he fell. No, no, I found something like that.
Speaker 2: I found out from you. I've been busy this whole day.
I haven't been doing anything newsworthy, so you know when
you told me that. That's how I found out. So yeah,
it's it's uh, you know again, he left us with
lots of gifts. You know, his work was done, so yeah,
we're very thankful for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I texted. I was texting with Billy Vera and
Hall of Famer of this show, and you know, he
said that, He's like, yeah, dude, I just heard and
I actually recorded with him, you know, in the early seventies,
and he said he was just one hell of a guy.
And that's that's all I've heard. And I'm going to
put it on the Patreon. I have to take some
time to figure out where it is in the John
Carabbe interview that the great Steve the Colonel Cropper story,
and then and I'll post that post that up on
the Patreon patreon dot com slash real Lizzy Presley. By
the way, it's only five dollars a month. So uh,
let's move on to uh something fun instead of talking
about death.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Fifty seven years ago, tonight, December third, nineteen sixty eight,
the NBC Elvis Special, as they called.
Speaker 2: It, Singer Singer Presents Elvis.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, right, that's right. Sewing machines, And of
course we all know that as the sixty eight Comeback Special.
Do you remember the first time you saw that?
Speaker 2: Do you remember, like it was yesterday, because it was
when Elvis died in seventy seven. They started just flooding
TV with you know, and I don't think that they've
played it ever since then. You know, they probably ran
it twice, you know, and but and Margaret hosted this special. Yeah,
it was probably a few days later, and they it
was called like Memories with Elvis or Our Memories with
Elvis something, and they played the sixty eight Comeback Special
and they played Aloha from Hawaii back to back, and yeah,
that was I was four years old, you know. I
had tickets to see Elvis and he died six days
before the show. Oh oh yeah, So this was my
first you know. And before that, you know, I didn't
see him on TV in concert like that, you know,
so this was a big deal. I was born on
April fourth, nineteen seventy three, I mean April third, and
April fourth was when they premiered Alaha from Hawaii in America.
So that was the first music I ever heard, you know,
but I never got to see it. Until that day.
So and Margaret, Yeah, I did this. It was like
a four hour special and we had a VCR back
then in seventy seven, so you know, we taped everything.
So that's all I did was watch that, just that
the opening and the leather suit was just like, you know,
he was Superman to me, you know.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's funny, you said, you said, and Margaret,
and all I can think of, Yo, that's what you
call trim. I'm sure you didn't hear that, but you
will hear it if you go back and listen to it.
Hot piece of trim. Hot piece.
Speaker 2: Saw it. Yeah, yeah, she you know, she she had
played a bit of a part in his life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and every every redded, red blooded American male as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So that was Yeah, that was the
first time I saw it, and you know, I was
I was obsessed with, you know, from the womb, and
you know, I would I would take my we had
a little microphone, and I take one of my mom's
dish towels and put it, as you know, on a
as a scarf, you know. But in our living room,
we had this round marble table, so I would pretend
that I was in the boxing ring, you know, and
I would say along to the special, you know, and yeah, yeah,
so I mean that was and I just got my
first guitar, so it was really you know, it was
a big deal at that time.
Speaker 1: It's so funny because I didn't I don't remember ever
seeing it until god, it was late nineties mm hm.
And I had got my mom the the DVD, the
deluxe DVD set where they had everything everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's them.
Speaker 1: So you as got what for four six DVDs in there?
Speaker 2: Yeah for I believe three three?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, And you know I watched a special
and there's a couple of parts where I was like, ah, yeah,
the whole African dance party. But uh, but to sit
down and and you we never realized that they film
those Black Leathers sit Down show, that they filmed it
twice and there were two full shows the same with
Black leather stand up shows and to be watched though,
and the Black Leathers Sit Down Show number one. That's
that's my go to right right, that's it might be
the most rock and roll thing ever.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: It was very spontaneous and I think you could you
could feel his nerves in the first one. When he
comes out in the second one, he's a totally different person.
You know. It's it's a very very big difference, you know.
But yeah, you could see this man getting his confidence
right there on stage, you know, the spontaneouses of it,
and and just the vibe was was was perfect, you know, yeah,
it's it's it's rock and roll.
Speaker 1: It is well, it's funny. You can tell the difference
between the two crowds too. And I'm sure you know
the story of what happened with the tickets. Yeah, yeah,
so if you guys aren't familiar with the story, so
Colonel Tom, Colonel Tom Parker, they were going to give
away a bunch of tickets on the on the radio
stage on a radio station to come down and see this.
And he was pissed because he wasn't getting any money
from it. It was just a free thing because Elvis
was at his lowest point at that point. I mean,
there's one of one of the documentaries there talking about
how he was standing. He was in the in the
office at sunset and I can't remember the crossway, I
think Librea and the guy looks at me and goes, dude,
you're nobody knows who the fuck you are anymore. You know,
you could walk down there and nobody's gonna even blink
an eye. And Elvis didn't believe him. He went down
there and all of a sudden, his girls drove by.
Didn't even know who the fuck he was. He was nobody,
and it's weird to say about Elvis fucking Presley. So
the colonel took all these tickets and they so that
first show, the first black, black leather sit down show.
If you go back and watch and listen to it,
the crowd's not as as freaky as they are in
the second show, because the first one it's all people
that work for the studio and they're friends, and they
didn't even know what they were going to see, you
know this. Then finally the second one, they called the
radio stations that everybody meet up Bob's big boy if
you're an Elvis fan. And then that's why the second one,
it's the girls are and they hyped.
Speaker 2: It up too. If you listen to the to the
full recording, they're they're telling the crowd to amp it up,
you know, yeah, yeah, but yeah, I mean the difference
is in just his his confidence is Night and Day,
you know, but yeah, that first the first one is
is is the gold right there? You know? So it
was great. What was it like, I think maybe eighty
three eighty four when they released the whole thing because
I think it was on HBO. Yeah, it was called
on One Night with You and that was the whole
first show.
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 2: So it was the first time you know, any of
us saw the whole thing, you know, And yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I still watch it. I still watch it. It's
like I have all up this DVDs. Like I was tonight.
My plan was to work until about six or seven,
come home, eat and watch it and then you know,
come on and do the show and then you know,
shit happened and fucking work and whatever. And I didn't
have a chance to do that, but I probably would have.
Instead of watching the actual special, I would have watched
that sit down show. It's funny though, that is the
last time I ever did an Elvis show. It was
on the Moody Blues Cruise. My band was there was
this band called Heavy Mellow and you know, a couple
of the guys Renwoods, uh guy Mike Bennett. We we
didn't have we couldn't find an acoustic guitar case that
wasn't padded, so they we miked up a folding chair
for him to play on. You know, we want to
recreate it as close as possible Luis Vegas. And then
I'm sure you know, yeah, I'm sure you know who
my Scottie Moore.
Speaker 2: Was Frank, Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think I actually got a compliment from
Howie Simon.
Speaker 2: Mm hm.
Speaker 1: You won't admit it to this day, but.
Speaker 2: I have friends I heard that's awesome.
Speaker 1: Let's see.
Speaker 2: I will tell you this too.
Speaker 1: This work.
Speaker 2: My inspiration for for this.
Speaker 1: Oh look at that.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, this was my my my dream guitar back then.
Speaker 1: So that was that the thinking Elvis was playing at
the beginning or RepU of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah J two hundred so same
you know, same model. Yeah yeah, and then he switched
to the Super four hundred.
Speaker 1: So you know it's funny that, you know, everybody always says, well,
Elvis couldn't play guitar. I think he proved them wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, people don't realize that he was.
He was a musician, you know that he was. He
was a band leader, he was you know, he could
play the piano, he could play the guitar. Yeah, he was.
He knew what he was doing, you know, it just
didn't you know, come out of nowhere. You know. He
was a musical director, and you know, I think it
gets lost in with all the other stuff with him,
but yeah, yeah, he was full blown musician.
Speaker 1: Well it's funny too, because I mean, I'm sure you've
played that all right that it's not an easy rhythm.
Speaker 2: Mmm.
Speaker 1: I tried to do it. I I just I could
never get that fucking rhythm, you know what I'm talking about.
It's just yeah, yeah, well it's you know, difficult.
Speaker 2: Till Billy Man. You know, it's country music, you know.
So he that's what he knew, that that that's what
was in him, that in the blues. You know, he
was you know, in the heart of Memphis and what
he was hearing. You know, he he just soaked it
all up, you know, and thank God, thank God, right
because the God knows where we would be right now,
you know.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Well, And it's wild too that you know, as we
talk about the sit down stuff, that the only member
that wasn't there of his original band was Bill Black.
H Yeah, because he died in sixty five.
Speaker 2: Hmm. But they well they didn't really need them for this. Well.
Speaker 1: I don't think there was a bass player in that.
Speaker 2: No, there wasn't. There wasn't there was who else was
with him besides Scotti? Was Charlie. Charlie was playing Yeah, yeah, yeah,
So I think I think they did it just fine
by themselves.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. Do you have when you go back you
think about that special? Is there anything other than the
black other stuff that just really pops out? I was like,
this is what really made that special?
Speaker 2: Well? End the end, I would I would say, if
I can dream, you know, and just the statement that
he made, you know, Elvis wasn't a political person. He
wasn't didn't affiliate himself with with anything really, you know,
and that was the boldest state and he could make,
you know, And I think it was beautiful on the
way it was done and how he closed the show
with that, you know, and just giving it everything he had,
especially at the end, you know, just the raspiness in
his voice. You know, it's funny because sixty eight and
then the records that he did in sixty nine, he
had this rasp to his voice. Yeah, you know, and
then all of a sudden, Yeah, and then all of
a sudden it became very smooth. You know, it changed
like almost overnight, you know, when he was at the
Vegas in sixty nine.
Speaker 6: When you listen to those recordings, which was maybe six
months after he finished the Memphis albums that he did,
you know, and his voices is different, you know, but
just that.
Speaker 2: Snapshot of him in this special with that that raspiness
that you know, it was just an f you to everyone, everyone,
you know, like this is this game is mine?
Speaker 1: Well, and Joe. I can almost think about this. If
he hadn't have smoothed, if he kept singing like that,
I don't think he would have lasted as long as
he did. No, he would have he would have his voice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well he he knew what he was doing,
you know. I think, you know, even though he was
you know, the colonel had a big hold on him.
Colonel couldn't tell him how to sing, couldn't tell him,
you know, what to do with his voice, you know.
So I think he was very in control of what
he wanted to sound like. He knew that he had
to rise above everyone, you know, since he was in
the army you know, rock and roll became something completely different,
right and during you know, the mid to late sixties,
it evolved very very quickly, and there wasn't a place
for him in in that in that world, you know,
and he had to he had to solidify who he
was in a big way, you know.
Speaker 3: And I think.
Speaker 2: He couldn't get any better than what he did.
Speaker 1: Man, No, well, and I think people forget that. I
think the last show he did before this was in
sixty three, sixty one, sixty one, so he has performed
live in seven years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was in Hawaii. It was on that benefit
for the Yeah with Danny Thomas. But yeah, yeah, that
was that was his only real live show that he
did when he got out of the army, you know,
besides the TV.
Speaker 1: Special that's right, you know.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you know he went straight into Hollywood, and
you know, I just got the Elvis in the Colonel book.
I haven't I haven't dug into it yet because I
kind of know, you know, pretty much everything. But you know,
just those years, you know, what what was going through
his head, like, you know, the fuck am I doing?
You know? Yeah, and you can only you can only
do that for so long. You know, so I think
you know, he was probably drumming this stuff up for years,
you know, so you know he did it. He did
it in the in the biggest way he could, you know.
Speaker 1: So you just wonder how much of the movie when
they're in the seventies, the Vegas stuff, how much of
that was real and how much of it was Hollywood?
Like him firing the colonel. I mean, I don't think
that ever actually happened, right.
Speaker 2: It happened a bunch of times, so, you know, and
each time, I don't you mean the movie the Tom
Hanks one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that you're talking.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if
any of that's true, but yeah, he would fire him
all the time, and the colonel would give him a
bill like this is what you owe me, you know,
if you want to get out of your contract here,
you know, this is.
Speaker 1: This is basically So basically they just took those stories
and put it into one scene.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: That did happen the movie?
Speaker 2: Oh I I tried to watch it. I can't watch
that movie. That that's it. That's you know, well that's
another story. Yeah, I can't. I've tried. I've gotten maybe
half an hour into it, Well, I can't watch that guy.
Speaker 1: I thought he did a fine job, you know. I
mean it's not easy to be Elvis. I mean, everybody
tries to be all this, it's not easy. I thought
he did a fine job.
Speaker 2: I thought Kurt Russell, I thought Cursel Kurt Russell was
a great elviness. I think I love that movie.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this was this was you know, it was.
Speaker 1: It was what it was. I tell you the only
things that I didn't because I knew it was a
It wasn't a documentary. It was a biopic, and we
know that's not going to be one hundred percent accurate, right.
The only problems I really had with it was them
playing rap music in it, and.
Speaker 2: I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, Jesus fucking Christ, come on, really, it's like, dude,
nineteen fifty five, this is ship is not happening.
Speaker 2: Stop.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's It's kind of like the Bohemi Rapsy thing. It's like,
you know what, you have enough footage of the real people.
Show that to the kids. You know. It's like when
they they spend millions and millions of dollars to recreate
live age, just show the freaking performance. Why would you
recreate that? You know? So you know I couldn't. I
couldn't sit through that Elvis movie. You know. I'm sure
he probably did a good job, you know, but he
did not look anything like Elvis. He didn't have any
you know, he had some of the moves down, but
he wasn't. You can't do that. Just show the real guy, man,
you know.
Speaker 1: I tell you what I did, stand up and yell
at the screen, fucking Elvis tard out of myself when
they're doing the sixty eight comeback.
Speaker 2: Uh huh oh, I didn't even see that point.
Speaker 1: So the law, yeah, I mean, you know, the line
is they're gonna let me do what I want to do.
Sit down. Yeah, the movie, he goes, let me do
what I want to do, which is play what I
want to play. I'm like, that's not the.
Speaker 2: Joke. Well, there you go, there you go, you know,
and you know, I'll.
Speaker 1: Tell you another highlight of me for for the for
the comeback dude guitar man, Oh yeah, absolutely did Now
did they bring in Jerry Reid to play?
Speaker 2: No, No, I think it's I think it might be
Tommy to Desco. I forget you know, I should know
all this with the back of my end, but it
could be it could be Tommy to Disco. And I'm
sure there's more than one.
Speaker 1: Guitar player, yeah, because it just what I had heard
and we all know, you know, fucking telephone line how
that fucking goes. But I had heard that whoever was
playing guitar couldn't get it, so they just called in
Jerry Reid. Because again you want to talk about hard songs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well there there was what was it like, nineteen
eighty or eighty one they came out with. They came
out with an album called Guitar Man, and they read
did they took Elvis's vocals and Jerry Reid did like
the whole album, and the version of Guitar Man on
that album, I think they changed it. It's I think
it's called now too Much Monkey Business or you can
find it. Elvis has a cowboy hat on on the cover.
But that version of Guitar Man where you hear Jerry
Reid play, it's ridiculous, ridiculous better than the original version
to me.
Speaker 1: Anyway, as you talk about it's like people forget how
great Jerry Reid was. Fucking They think Roy Clark, you know, oh,
he's just that guy and hehaw Are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 2: Right on? One of my favorite movies growing up was
the movie Hot Stuff from nineteen seventy nine. I don't
know if you ever watched it.
Speaker 4: Don de Luise, Jerry Reid, and I had no idea
that that was the guy that did all that stuff man,
you know, so that that was you know, my dad
told me, like, you.
Speaker 2: Know, he wrote guitar man. He I was like that guy,
you know, so yeah, yeah, it was yeah, he was
in but yeah, check out that version. It's really really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, before we wrap up here because I
don't want to keep you too long because you you're
getting ready to head to Canada. Yess with the guests
who the cultural impact of that special? What do you
got on that?
Speaker 2: Wow? I mean think about MTV Unplugged.
Speaker 1: Don't think about it. It was the first unplugged, It
was the first in the round, It was the first
v H one storytellers m h yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it really sparked a lot of things that
that you know, would come very very much later. You know,
do you remember what the first MTV Unplugged was?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean the first time I remember doing anything
like it was John and Ritchie. Well so it was
before that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So the first unplugged was the guys from
Squeeze really, Chris, Yeah, those guys. When was that nineteen eighty.
Speaker 1: Nine really, so that was before John and Richie played
at the.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what. It might have been right after that,
It might have been right after that, but they were
the first actual MTV and then the second one was Stevie,
Ray Vaughan and Joe Satriani. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wish I would have seen that second one. I
was on a I was in a van with Saturianni
last year or two years ago for the Mountain Music Fest,
and I had never seen I had seen it, but
I just didn't remember it. But he's singing yeah, yeah,
and I was I wanted to, you know, dive into
that a little bit with him. You know why he
didn't do that anymore. But yeah, So it's so funny
thinking about that. It's like you go from one extreme
to the other with Stevie and then Satch doing sach
It's like, wow, it's yeah, gorgeous, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a good one. But yeah, I mean
that it was definitely and I think fashion wise too,
you know when you know, when did you see a
man in full black leather? You know, so you know
that that was another thing. But yeah, yeah, he again
he broke down you know, boundaries and even even some
of the content you know that he that he did,
you know, with with the African stuff and and everything,
you know, during that time. You know, it was the
height of of you know, all that stuff. Man.
Speaker 1: You know, he really he really got to get his
gospel side out at the same time. You know that
another another part of him. Yeah, that really became very
important in his career.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm hmm. Okay, I have a question for you.
So what songs do you would you wish that he
did on that special.
Speaker 1: In the sit down?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, any of it, any of it mhm, because
I'm I just that just came to me.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking too, dude, that that's hard because they hit
everything that he really needed to hit, right, you know,
in the in the stand up and in the sit Down.
Speaker 2: And I mean maybe a little maybe if we took
away all the production stuff and it was just raw music.
Speaker 1: M it would have been cool to hear maybe Viva
Las Vegas to dive into the movie stuff a little bit,
you know, not too much because a lot of that.
Speaker 2: Well, they recorded a little less conversation for the special,
but they re recorded it, you know, and they didn't
use it at all.
Speaker 1: Is that the version that ended up on that Okay?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's from the sixty eight recordings.
Speaker 1: That's one of my least favorite every time it comes
on Elvis Radio. I the newer remixed version of.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. They ruined a good song, you know.
Speaker 1: Dude, that's hard, yeah, because I mean that was before obviously,
it was before you know, in the ghetto and all
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: Little sister, I wish that he would have Yeah, that
would have been good.
Speaker 1: That would have been good. There's so many of those gems.
Speaker 2: We're gonna get to see it on the new you
know that new movie that's coming out the.
Speaker 1: Right tell uh, let inform the listeners about that.
Speaker 2: So the guy what's his name, Baz whatever. Then that
made that other movie, the Presley a state commissioned him
to do basically a concert film, and it's called Epic
Elvis Presley in Concert And they just screened it at
the Toronto Film festival, and I think it's going to
hit the theaters in the new year. And it's all well,
depending on how who you talk to, it's all unreleased
footage from Elvis on tour and that's the way it is,
or you could come to my house and see all
the footage. But yeah, I mean it's supposed to be incredible.
The reviews are, you know, pretty amazing. So but one
of the things is the Little Sister. I was the
one and are You Lonesome Tonight that he did in Vegas.
My parents were there right in the front row when
you and you could hear my father that was his
favorite song, was Little Sister when he said he sat
down with his freaking gretch and he called it out.
You hear my dad go, it's oh my dad. If
you knew his voice, you could tell. But yeah, they
were there that night. So finally we'll get to see
it because they never I guess while he was doing it,
they had to change the film and nobody could find
the film, so I think they found it now. So yeah,
so I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 1: Cool. Did you ever see the Wayne Newton The Haunting
of mm.
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: I got a sense, Yeah, you remember the TV show
The Haunting of Yeah, Yeah, it was a spinoff for everybody.
It was a spin off of celebrity ghost stories. They
would take one of those ghost stories and they'd hook
up at the medium and go back to where the
haunting happened. And the Wayne Newton one was about Elvis.
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
Speaker 1: So the story goes that when Elvis passed, Wayne took
over for him at the Imperial, the Hilton, or whatever
the hell it was at that time. I think it
was still the Imperial, and they worked up a medley
to honor Elvis. And he was friends with Elvis, because
he tells the whole story and hear about how he
was friends with him, and YadA, YadA, YadA, and the many.
But the the Wayne story is that when they went
into the medley one of those first nights, it wasn't
it wasn't sold out. They had the top part roped off.
There was not supposed to be anybody up there, and
as soon as they went into it, all the power goes.
But everybody keeps playing and Wayne looks up and he
sees somebody standing up there. It's Elvis, and he gives
a nod and he disappears. Then boom, everything comes back on.
It's on YouTube. I'll send it to you's. Have you
ever been in there? Hiss in his dressing room and
all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: No, I went to see years and years ago. I
went to see Inglebert humperdink in that in that showroom
and that's a stage. Yeah yeah, I know, I know,
I know the whole thing. But I fell asleep during
the show. I just wanted to go because I just
wanted to be in that room, you know. So, But yeah, yeah, yeah,
to ever tell you, I might have told you the
last time we did one of these Elvis things, how
my dad met him, No, in Vegas. So it was
nineteen seventy four and it was, you know, the beg
the Elvis Summer Festival, which was probably the most bizarre
one that he ever did because the opening night he
did a completely different show where he he opened up
with different songs and he did the whole set list
was was totally different, and then he freaked out and
he just went back to his normal, you know, routine,
and then at the last night he was, you know,
really fucked up on drugs. If you ever heard the
Desert Storm bout leg, it's a. It's the most bizarre
thing in the world. He's just going and going and
yelling and screaming and cursing and anyway, So my parents
were there for that the night before opening night. And
back then, like the shows in the lounge were pretty
big stars you could see and they were just like
cover bands that now and I could think Dick Clark
was doing like one of his revival things. So my
parents were there, and yeah, it was the night before
Elvis's opening night. And I don't even know if it
was at the at the Hilton where they where they
were seeing this show might have been a different anyway,
it doesn't matter. Actually I have the napkin, but well,
well it has this autograph on it. Anyway, it's real.
It's real. Oh yeah, my dad. He gave it to
my dad and on the other side of the Okay,
I'll tell you this story. So, so my parents are,
you know, going to this this show. You know, it's
probably like Fabian and you know all those guys, you know,
And before like the like the lights went out or whatever,
they locked the doors in the lounge and my dad
was like, they never locked the doors. They don't close
the doors in the lounge. You know, something's weird. And
my my dad's like, I bet you Elvis is here.
And my mom's like, he's not gonna come to something
like this. He's like, Elvis is here. I'm telling you
he's here, you know. And so for some reason, Dick
Clark comes out before the show and he was just like,
you know, hyping up the crowd and he was like listen.
He said, we have somebody here, a special guest that's
in the audience, and you know that's why the doors
are locked. And my dad's like, I told you so,
you know. And uh so he said, please, you know,
respect his privacy.
Speaker 3: And and this was the thing.
Speaker 2: He's like, please do not bug him. And Elvis walked
up on the stage and he grabbed the mic and
he said bug me. So nobody went up to him.
So my dad was like, fuck it, I don't want
to go. Sit it right up there. And he started
talking to him and he gave him he was writing
a letter to a note to Jackie Wilson, who was upstairs.
I guess he was supposed to be part of this show.
But he got really sick and and he just turned
the napkin over and he signed his name and gave
it to my dad. So I have it. Well, he
has it and it says you could see it. He says,
like Jackie, you you know that he was starting to
write the thing. So yeah, my dad got to that's
just wild man, and Elvia stepped on my mom's hand,
so you h yeah, yeah, my dad was like, go
go go go kiss him. She got his hand and
stepped right on her.
Speaker 1: So still a couple of years ago, I was seeing
Firehouse there and it was when CJ was still with us.
M Oh yeah, you know. The band hooked me up
and very very kind to them and go down. We
do a little meet and greet, say hi, and their
manager Joey's like, have you ever been down here? I'm
like no. He's like, you want to see the dressing room?
Speaker 2: Oh wow, it.
Speaker 1: Took me in the dressing room. It's all green shag
and I'll find the pictures. I'll send him to you.
The bathroom. The bathroom is huge, and there's a cotton
there like a prison caught so he could nap instead
of going up to his fucking room.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Wow, it was cool. I mean everything was just just
exactly as it is. It's like you know when you
played at the Golden Nugget.
Speaker 2: No, but I've been there. I've been there.
Speaker 1: You've been back there where like Sinatra's room and all that.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I've been
I've been there.
Speaker 1: Cool too, that's exactly like it was. And so he
takes me over to the side of the stage where
the they haven't marked where Elvis used to do the
prayer before we went on stage. And I was talking
to a couple of security guys down there, and you guys,
ever see anything weird down here? You ever hear anything weird? Like,
just put it this way. We're never down here alone.
There's always at least two of us down here because
there's a ship going on in here. So maybe there's
some truth. Maybe there's a little bit of truth the
wayde Newton story. Yeah, no, I mean it's it's pretty
fun wild.
Speaker 2: Well he in that desert storm thing. Elvis goes on
about the gargoyles on the I'm gonna send you those
those those shows because you got my lovers, They're they're
really really great, definitely, especially when you drive, you know.
But yeah, yeah, I would I would have loved to
go down there and check it out, because now I
think they they're like preserving a lot of this stuff. Right,
it's called like the West Gate or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's called the West Gate. There's so there's a
museum when you in in the casino. They have a
little tiny museum that's free. It's just out there in
the open, so you can see, like, you know, they've
got belt buckles and guns and locks. Yeah that was
you know the famous picture from there with all this
and the two guys. Yeah, right, right, next time I'm
down there, I have to recreate that that picture. I
don't know when it would ever be, but you know,
you never know.
Speaker 2: Well when I come, right, yeah, when I come out there,
well we'll go, we'll go. We'll make a pilgrimage.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and dude, so my buddy Johnny Hazard got hired.
He's going to play a private show in the penthouse. Oh,
I has to play at Elvis's Penthouse in two weeks.
Speaker 2: Very nice, very nice, Joe.
Speaker 1: Before we wrap up here, like I said, you are
off to Canada to recruit, rehearse with the guests. Who
said I was, I want I want to get into
this before we go, because yeah, it's important stuff you
were out with Burton. Did you add any idea that
the guests who think was going to come back together?
You did? And when did they ask you to be
part of it?
Speaker 2: It was last summer, summer twenty twenty four. My lawyer
called me up about it, and she she's Burton's lawyer
as well, and she was the one that got all
their stuff back, you know, and she was just she
called me up and she was just like, you know,
and it was really funny. Because I'll say this now
because I'll probably tell Randy this story. You know, I
saw a bto open up for Van Haleen on the
fifty one to fifty tour, and you know, it was
my first time as a thirteen year old buddy guitar
player to see my hero right, you know, up front
for the first time. So even if the Beatles were
opening up for Van Haleen, I would have booed them. So,
you know, these three big guys come on, you know,
and I'm like, the fuck is this? You know? So
you know, we were we were, me and my little
cousin were you know, we were a little upset. But anyway,
you know, I knew the songs and I was like, oh, okay,
this is great. You know, I know all these songs
and Leslie West came out, they did Mississippi Queen. I
was like, all right, this is badass, you know.
Speaker 1: That's why.
Speaker 2: That's really all I knew of of Randy. I had
no idea, you know. I and I kind of knew
that he was in the Guests Who, but I, you know,
that stuff wasn't really on my radar, you know. Which
was the funny thing is one of the first forty
five's I ever had was Stand Tall by Burton Cummings.
My dad had it and I loved that. I loved it,
and it was like my forty five anyway, So this
is how crazy it was. Like like maybe sometime in
the summer, I was, you know, I would walk around
the lake out here and I was listening to podcasts,
and there was one podcast would would Randy Bachman, and
I was like, let me give this guy a shot,
you know. And so I'm listening to him and I
and I'm like, oh my god, this guy's brilliant. He's incredible.
You know. I had no idea that he had this
whole jazz thing that he studied with Lenny brow and
and all this wisdom that he had. I was so fascinated.
I was like, oh my god, you know, I couldn't
believe it. And then he started talking about the guess who.
I was like, holy shit, that's right. He's American woman,
that's him, you know. Yeah, And now he's talking about
Burton Cummings and I'm like, wow, this is this is
so fascinating. I sat down and listened to the whole thing.
And now he's talking about their lawsuit and there's this
other guess who. I was like, oh my god, this
is fucked up. So, you know, I was just like wow,
you know. And he was like, yeah, you know, we're
trying to get you know, our stuff back, and it's
been really you know, it's been really hard, and blah
blah blah blah. And I kid you not. Maybe two
weeks later, not even I get a call from my
lawyer and she's like, hey, I have to talk to you.
It's really important, you know. And I thought I owed
her money or something, you know. I'm like, you know,
so I was like, what's up. And she's like, I
have to asked you a weird question. I'm like, what's up.
She's like, do you know anything about the guess who?
And I still laugh and I was like do I
I was like I sure, do you know? And I'm
just like rattling stuff off to her, and she was like, well, listen,
I'm the one that got all this stuff back, you know,
so you have to you have to do this gig.
And I was like what, you know, She's like, you
have to. And and Burton was you know, he hadn't
been able to play in the US for a while
because of that other band, you know, so they needed
a guitar play. And I was like okay, you know,
and and I was like, well, this is weird. You know,
everybody's from Canada, you know, They're like and she's like, no,
you have to do this gig.
Speaker 4: You have to.
Speaker 2: And I was like okay. And it was. It couldn't
have been a better match ever. I mean, it's like
I found like my long lost cousins, you know, like
it's an incredible incredible let.
Speaker 1: Me ask you.
Speaker 2: This was.
Speaker 1: The lawsuit and all that stuff.
Speaker 3: Is that.
Speaker 1: When they came out and said all these there you
the other guests who you guys cannot play any of
these songs?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, my lawyer. She she she took down Burton
and Randy's publishing.
Speaker 1: So okay, they wasn't a part of that other one either, No,
it was always with none. Yeah, well, okay, it makes sense.
Speaker 2: You know, Randy left very very early in the Guess Who.
They only did a few albums and then he started
bt O. You know, they would reunite every once in
a while, okay, but they couldn't call it The Guests Who.
They would have to call it Bachmann Cummings. So now
this is the first time in decades that they can
actually call it the Guess Who. Okay, and yeah, yeah,
so that's what they did. They shut down the performing rights.
Speaker 1: And now it makes sense.
Speaker 2: And the thing was, my lawyer thought it was going
to take maybe a week or two. It happened that day.
Those guys had a gig and it was like sound
check and they you know, they told them, you can't
play these songs tonight. Yeah, so they had to shut
everything down. You know, I mean, we we have some
acquaintances that were in that band.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 2: You know, Rudy Sarzo was in there at one point,
that's right. So Greg Smith, who grew up in my neighborhood.
You know, he was in there for a while, you know,
so yeah, yeah it was It was a pretty pretty
uh badass what she did? You know. So now, yeah,
we're gonna do it. You know, we just finished a
huge tour a whole year we were out.
Speaker 1: That was that was out with with Burton.
Speaker 2: That wasn't that was Yeah, and Randy had a huge
bto tour. So the first show is in Niagara Falls
on the Canada side on January thirty first, and then
we are we're headlining the Rock Legends Cruise in February
and so yeah, so the US tour is still kind
of being put together, and we have a we have
a bunch of Canada dates in.
Speaker 1: The spring as well. You should yes, yes.
Speaker 2: So that's gonna be pretty epic. But yeah, the rehearsals
start on Saturday.
Speaker 1: Wow. Congratulations, Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Oh man, I'm I'm I'm really excited. These
guys and this band is ridiculous incredible.
Speaker 1: Can you say who else is in the band?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's basically Burton's band, the same guys that
we were touring with, plus Randy you know of course.
So yeah, yeah, I mean we've been you know, plowing
through for the last year and it's just it's it's
it's pretty mighty. So I can't wait for everybody to
see it on this level. And so you know, we'll
get your ass out there, and uh when we come
to Vegas and yeah he.
Speaker 1: Said, he said, February Vegas. No, no, we the U.
Speaker 2: York States haven't. We have just the cruise. So I
don't know if that's announced yet.
Speaker 1: You want me to beep it out, I can beat
it out.
Speaker 2: Yes, just the case I think it's been. But but yeah, yeah,
it's gonna be It's gonna be great. Man. We're we're
all excited, you know. We we just finished this huge tour,
so we're we're warmed up, you know. So we just
got to add some bt O stuff and some deep
cuts and yeah it's gonna be great and it's gonna
be long to.
Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, yeah good. So oh I suppose
you got you You've got to be excited to play
some BTO stuff with fucking.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah, so that that's gonna be great,
you know. So yeah, yeah, we'll find out in about
thirty six hours.
Speaker 1: That's looking great, man, Thank you for thank you for
popping on and really short here music Joe. People want
to find you. Where can they find you?
Speaker 2: You know all the socials you know Instagram, I think
it's Joe Agello music and say.
Speaker 1: Posting fun stuff, playing along with stuff.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, I have a lot of time on my nads,
so yeah, yeah, listen joeorge Ello music a year, gd
ll o, Facebook, Instagram, I think TikTok it's like Joe
Orgello guitar or something gtr so.
Speaker 1: And people want to get tickets for the upcoming guests
who tour. Uh yeah, your website they can go to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm just sure. I'm sure you know Burton's website,
to guess whose website, Randy's website, you know.
Speaker 5: All the all the you know outlets that you can
get tickets at, you know, so I know they're going fast,
you know, and so we're yeah, we're exciting, man.
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