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Speaker 7: The biggest story here locally is Garrett Nusmeyer and the
Torso injury that was mentioned in September, and so Brian
Kelly lsua coach, was asked about it yesterday and he said,
and this is a quote, that's misinformation.
Speaker 2: Those rumors are not based on any facts. It's quite silly. Actually.
Early on he had an abstrain, not a core injury
in terms of a core injury that we deal with,
and it's been slow to heal. He'd gone to say
he's on the backside of that and he's getting rest
this week. He'll be the Garrett Nussmeyer that he needs
to be as we get into the very difficult part
of our schedule. Then he goes on he talks about
our training staff and physicians have treated him with medication
that's been part of the procedure and protocols. But we
knew coming to this bye week that this was going
to be the time for us not to push him,
all right. So it's a lot of information in there
out in little nuggets, uh, the abstrain, not a core injury,
talking about misinformation of having surgery. So he's on the
backside of that. And he did also with his chest out.
It feels like I didn't hear the sound reading these
quotes that he'll be the Garrett Nussmeyer that he needs
to be as we get into the very difficult part
of our schedule.
Speaker 5: That's the quote that like sticks out to me and laugh,
like mean, we've been in like press conferences, We've talked
to the media, like you you watch your words, you
very you pick your words out wisely, you try not
to say anything. You try to say something, but nothing.
So I don't think we'll ever be the people that
are going to look too far into coach speak or
what a player says to the media because they're going
to say what you want to hear whatever. But it
was interesting to me that he was very strategically maybe
or very intentional, I'll say that's a better word for him,
very intentional about saying the Garrett Meyer he needs to be,
because it sounded like leading up to the needs to
be part is gonna be, he'll be the Garrett must
Fire that we've come to know or like he was
or he has been in the past. It's Garrett Smer
he needs to be. What does that mean? Yeah, it's
pretty open ended, but we all know like there's a
performance gap between where he's been and what we've seen
so far up to this point this year.
Speaker 3: We've seen flashes of it, of course.
Speaker 5: But the consistent performance and consistent decision making, accurate throws,
zip on the ball, all that stuff, of course has
been lacking up to this point. So that was the
one that was of all like the little snippets there,
because he's got to answer in some way.
Speaker 3: He just can't.
Speaker 5: He can't pantomime when people ask him questions, you like
that sure saying yeah, yeah, we can play.
Speaker 3: That one later. I don't even know if we can't
play that because he didn't say anything.
Speaker 5: Somebody's what that's going on. So for those of you
don't know, Seorg Sanders got asked a question yesterday and
he just lip, He just moved his mouth and didn't
say any words.
Speaker 3: So Brian Kelly cannot do that.
Speaker 5: He's got to say something, So like he don't want
to like sit here and be a show that she's
gonna well let's look at this word, look at that word,
look at this one. But for him to say he's
gonna be the Garrett Nesmyer needs to be and not
the Garrett neus Meyer like we we've seen in the past,
he's back type situation.
Speaker 3: I don't know, We'll see.
Speaker 2: He'd go on to say, Brian Kelly would go on
to say, a lot of mental work this week in
terms of film study, looking at the things that he's
done this year, just doing a really deep dive offense,
in particular the things he can control in the game
that he wants to get better at. He would also
go on to say, he was really good on Saturday
with the run game checks and getting the ball out
when we didn't have fair numbers. We want to build
on that, and then we want to build on his
consistency in terms of the pocket run. I mean the
run game check stuff. It's like how many times did
you run the ball twenty twenty one?
Speaker 3: So like, really good at the ring game checks.
Speaker 2: Well, no, I mean see, like he was trying to
give we're trying to give us an out of boy.
But I was like, again, go back to the Monday part.
Just call it run I mean, it seems so basic
and elementary, but just call it run, don't check to
a run.
Speaker 5: Hey, we talked about that like sometimes and I think
Brian mentioned in that is like getting us out of
runs in non advantageous numbers.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you go into that non advantageous numbers. Just call
it run. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So if we were doing good on the run checks,
but the run game's still not working even though it's
the right calling, he's telling you that's still not very good,
even though we're in the right play.
Speaker 2: For me, every every run, okay, running whatever. To the left,
numbers aren't great, the shades not where we need it
to be. And you always had a we can have
those numbers to the right, yep, Like that's the run
game checks that you typically used to Ye, but I
feel like there is is we don't have the numbers.
Speaker 3: Let's get to something behind the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2: Like I don't know that to be factual, but it
feels like, yeah, within the offense, that's kind of what
it is. Instead of like, let's see if we can
get some numbers over here and go from you know,
whatever it might be. You can go from a zone
to a gap scheme you can do that absolutely, but
it feels like theres is Okay, we don't have the numbers.
Let's get it to the receiver at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 5: Yeah, usually like a good run check. Let's just let's
keep it real simple. So eleven personnel, which.
Speaker 2: Is running back, one tight endo.
Speaker 5: One running back, one tight end. Let's just go a
normal two B two formation. We're just gonna think about
this in our heads, everybody, So we're gonna do like,
let's call a wide right situation. So wide right to
me a little crazy. The tight end is gonna be
on the line of scrimmage to the right side of
the ball. Two receivers to the left split out, so
you have a six people there.
Speaker 3: To block some sort of running play.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you got one running back who's gonna run
the ball. Let's say we call a weak side zone,
so we're running to the nub end, which is the
side without the tight end. So we're running to a
left ackle left guard center. So you got basically on
that sideline scrimmage you have three people to block. So
usually if there's a fourth person, you can do one
of two things. You can throw in r PO or
you can make an alert call or a flip call
or whatever that your your term is, and run it
to the right side. Let's run it to the tight
end side now, and it can be anything. It can
be that that four person count can be anything from
a defensive tackle, defensive end, linebacker, and a drop safety yep.
To that point there in some sort of single high coverage,
so that's four. Or it can be a middle linebacker,
defensive tackle, defensive end and.
Speaker 3: Just a will linebacker.
Speaker 5: And or it can be a defensive tackle to the
left side, defensive end, one will linebacker. And how about
a the other defensive tackle just shaded touching the center
right at that point, if he's touching the center, you
keep that in your your count yep. So that means
it's non advantageous for that. So we would flip it
to the other side and run. And so now at
that point you got four people. Now you have the center,
right guard, right tackle and tied in two block. What
should be four not five? Now if they have if
they're if they're able to shove a fifth person into
that box to make the count bad.
Speaker 3: It is so clustered in there, it's still an okay.
Speaker 2: Run.
Speaker 3: You can still we'll get three four yards right there.
Speaker 5: It's better to run to a tight end when it's
non avitageous numbers, just because you get there's so many
bodies in there, that fifth person can get like washed
right right, or it can get cloudy. He won't have
like a free run. But a lot of times in
this world of football, right now, it's all right. So
if my numbers aren't aren't correct, to the weak side,
run to the nub n Okay, man, I think that's
non avitageous. Look, yes, that's a fourth person in my count.
But man, it's a safety. It's seven yards. Yeah, it's
not a safety in like eight You gotta kind of
leave him for the back.
Speaker 3: Just leave him for the back.
Speaker 5: Sometimes I got that back on scholarship has to make
that guy mess. The problem I have is, it seems
like a lot of times the answer is, instead of
doing it, I'm gonna throw a wide receiver screen behind
the line of scrimmage to the wide side of the
field and make my locking wide receiver hold the block
for like two seconds one on one with the pressed corner.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the issue. Now, I'm not saying that's every time.
Speaker 5: I know they have more answers than that, But that's
the one that like stick out of my mind all
the time. Sometimes you just gotta flip it, you gotta
alert it, keep a run on against the non advantageous number.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's not always going to be perfect. And
we can get into that a little bit.
Speaker 5: I want to say, like my word usage of the
word advantageous was like at seven or eight that segment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you did pretty bit out then it wouldn't
have been a big deal. But now you did, and
now it's kind of like, Okay, I.
Speaker 3: Just wanted to you know, it's one of those words.
Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, he was about to just he was
about to about to lab. He was about to lab
for three minutes.
Speaker 3: My sat vocabulary words.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back in OTB here from the Raising Canes Studios.
Speaker 5: Hey we didn't did we get an update on air yesterday? Taylor,
you're honey mustard experience at Canes?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, dead? I had honey mustard? Uh when was that
Monday night?
Speaker 3: We're bad?
Speaker 5: Enjoyed it?
Speaker 3: All right? It's good, says it is amazing.
Speaker 6: I feel like we awoke the masses.
Speaker 2: He did me. I had no idea. It was one
of those exp like I can't give up. Like cane
sauce is silk.
Speaker 5: So that was that was my thing.
Speaker 3: Kne sauce is so good.
Speaker 4: Right, So it was like I did kind of alternate dips,
which was nice because like honey mustard not anything close
to cane solos.
Speaker 5: It was yeah, pretty good. They ever have ranch dressing.
My son's gonna absolutely lose his mind.
Speaker 3: See what I think.
Speaker 5: I like the fries and the honey muster butter in
the chicken. All right, So all like it was. It
was a good honey mustard what you're saying. It wasn't
like basic. It wasn't like thick.
Speaker 3: What's a stand for? I don't know.
Speaker 5: I couldn't think of anything fast enough. You get it?
Female dog and heat.
Speaker 2: M Have you all seen or or heard any of
the like Dan Landing, like post game after Oregon takes
down Penn State. My god, I love that fella. That
guy's ready to run through every brick wall. That guy
does such a great job of pissing his own team
off to get him ready for a big game. And
I love how he talks about the other crowds and
like doesn't hide from it, but like embraces it. I
covered their game got Michigan, Michigan Oregon last year and
I'm on the sideline and Dan's way into like all
the Michigan fans right one hundred thousand plus their pregame
kind of hype video was released earlier this week, and
one of his quotes one hundred and ten thousand that
won't play a snap, they won't make a tackle, they
won't do ish on that field. He's right, if they do,
they'll get arrested, you know.
Speaker 5: So they can make it really loud and hard to
get a snap off. Can you fall star are having
to make you some get some time outs us in
the first quarter?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they can do that. They didn't. I I like
the fact that Dan Lanning approaches it that way too
many times when you have like a challenge to go
to a venue, like you make it so much about
how loud it's gonna be and crowd noise. And I'm
not saying you don't get prepared, but it's like you
you allow it to become the main theme of the
game and not the opponent sometimes, and it feels like
Dan makes it more about the opponent than the crowd noise. Again, Look,
you're the quarterback, I mean, you gotta you're getting checks
out there, and I'm just the running back. I'm just
listening for some of my keys. But I kind of
like that he does a little bit different and his
record away from their own stadium, it's pretty damn good.
Speaker 5: I mean, I like most of his antics. I don't
really like that comment. I think it's dumb. Okay, So
you are going to her mind and try to make
fans less important that go to the game. Pretty sure,
it's fans that make the game, make the atmosphere. They're
not going to make them about Why you got to
make that comment to the to the media.
Speaker 2: No, it was to his team. It was his pregame speech.
They did a high video.
Speaker 3: Well there you go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, make it to the media and make it to
his team.
Speaker 5: You've got final cut approval post game.
Speaker 2: Surprised how many don't.
Speaker 4: Post game, he did say I prepared my team for
this crowd all week.
Speaker 2: He said.
Speaker 4: You know, normally this Pennsyltan crowd is worth about seven
points in their favor, he.
Speaker 5: Said tonight it wasn't, so. I mean he gave them
credit for So you're gonna talk that ish about other
people's fan bases and say that it's not really important
to really matter, But then when you come back home,
you're gonna tell your fans that it is important.
Speaker 2: Liar exactly.
Speaker 5: I just don't like people like making the fans feel
less important. College football sucks without fans. I don't think
he's doing that.
Speaker 2: He was just trying to minimize what they were going
to do in that game.
Speaker 3: I don't know. He seems like a little ish.
Speaker 2: I love him. Sorry, get very meaheadish, Lanny.
Speaker 6: Yeah, are y'all talking about the video of him twined out.
Speaker 2: Well that that's what started a conversation. Uh, you know
how we used to take We talked about this on
air before we used to take the Jack three D
like you mix it in water and you drink it,
then you basically go crazy for about three hours. Right,
you're hyped up. He might go straight to the vein
with it jacked up. Three D.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I didn't have this opinion before this segment. I don't
like Dan Lanning.
Speaker 2: What I love Dan?
Speaker 5: Probably my favorite coach in Coloradia?
Speaker 8: Yeah, minus because you don't like him because he somehow
tricked his team into not being terrified of one hundred
and ten thousand fans in a why out And that
makes sense, and he did.
Speaker 2: A hell of a job doing it at a young quarterback.
Speaker 4: Well, the thing about Dan, even when he's playing a
school that he knows he's better than, he finds a
way to piss his team off.
Speaker 2: Right every time.
Speaker 4: A couple of years ago, it was Dion's first year
at Colorado. Of course, you know the media hype and everything.
They're in the locker room pregame, they got Bonix. They're
better than Colorado. Everybody knew that. But he's like, hey,
they're playing for clicks, we're playing for wins. Remember that speech,
and he said, look all the talk this week has
been about Colorado. Why He's like, you guys are the
better team. They went out there that I think it
was forty two to nothing at halftime. Yeah, I mean,
and he didn't need to do that. They were the
much better team than Colorado. But he always finds a
way to get that done.
Speaker 5: Rebuttal, Yeah, he does it by being a little prick. Oh,
I think is awesome.
Speaker 2: I think finally Oregon has a coach that's using that
as the job that it should be and not a
stepping stone job. Oregon's not a stepping stone job. Oregon's
a destination. Oregon has resources, facilities, They've got kind of
the coolness of the uniforms and the whole deal. They've
got the Nike situation, and they got Phil Knight. Willi
Taggert used as a stepping stone to get to Florida State.
That was a big misstep. And I said it at
the time, Mario Cristabal, I get it. You're going back home.
Miami's where you played. It's Miami. I still would have
stayed at Oregon, but I understand that one like Dan
Lanning went there to stay there. Now, I don't know
if he every wants to be an NFL coach. I
have no idea if that's one of his goals in life.
But I find it very hard to believe that he'll
leave Oregon for another college job. Right. His name was
brought up when Alabama hired Calen de Borr, and he
quickly said, Nope, they're not even interested in him that conversation.
So I think like Oregon kind of you know, they've
been in the conversation, They've been to championship games, they've
been to playoffs. Look, I know what happened last year playoff.
But that's a kind of a sleeping giant, I think
for a long time, because nobody's ever, like no elite
coach has ever been like I want to put my
roots down here and I want to be here for twelve years.
Speaker 3: They also don't have a ring, have a what ring?
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, because it's like their coach uses
it to go somewhere else. Chip Kelly did it, Willie
Tagger did it, My Crysto Ball did it. I think
Dan laneing somebody that finally is like I want to
be here. I want to stay here, like this is
where I want to.
Speaker 3: Build got I hope he takes a Penn Stage job.
Speaker 2: If he took the Penn State job, that'd just be dumb.
Speaker 3: Though.
Speaker 2: There's no there's not one advantage that Penn State has
over Oregon right now currently.
Speaker 3: In the getting fired this year make you think right now.
Speaker 2: That also would be dumb too. I mean, I know
his record against top ten teams, but Penn State, you
haven't won a national championship since I was one. Two
people in this studio weren't even a thought last time
you want national championship?
Speaker 3: Not even a twinkle.
Speaker 2: Nope. Me and Flynn were not even well let's see
nineteen eighty six. Yeah, not quite too yet, we were one.
Both of us were one. So it's one of those
situations where I get it. I understand it. You want
to win those games. You were in the semi final
last year, you make two plays in the final two minutes,
you win that game, and you're playing for a natty.
Speaker 5: Just be careful what you wish for Penn State. Golly,
I didn't know if you're defending them, Yep, I'm bad.
Wouldn't have brought it up. I thought you're gonna give
me a boring answer. You thought I was going to
give you the boring answer a fire, No, that's not.
You gave me the boring answer.
Speaker 2: Oh really, see, I think the other way because everybody says, yeah,
like you gotta be Look, you gotta be careful whenever
y'all think the grass is greener on the other side.
And I'm talking to other fan bases right now, just
be careful, like it's.
Speaker 5: Not always greener, but you know what the colored grass
is that you're on. Sometimes it's green. I don't know,
And we don't have the.
Speaker 2: Best grass confusion Nebraska when they fired Bo Polini after
he won every year at least nine games. Every single
year Bo was there, he won at least nine. You
don't think that during that next decade they would love
eight nine win season, just one maybe two. You gotta
be careful when you uh. Florida firing Dan Mullin. Oh,
we don't like the way he recruits. He went to
three straight New Year Six Bowl games, and Billy Napier
is one bad loss away from being at the house,
and you're paying him twenty one million dollars to be
at the house.
Speaker 5: Okay, there's probably about twenty examples that were opposite of that.
Speaker 2: What give me one?
Speaker 3: Oh, obviously, I'm a big, big sports guy. I gotta
think about it. A little bit o. Can't just pull it out.
Speaker 2: Give me one of somebody that sat in that. We
got to make a move. We're at a crossroads. Turn left,
you get over the hump, and turn right and you
go the opposite direction.
Speaker 3: Georgia. It's a great one. Thank you, sports guy.
Speaker 2: Now, the thing they did that was really smart. Kirby
played there. Kirby was going to do everything he could
to make Georgia great, right, Margaret, to your point, won
a lot of games.
Speaker 3: Couldn't get over the hump. They went and found their guy.
Speaker 2: But you've got to be careful when you fire a
guy that is consistently winning games, and you gotta be
care like some of these places that just think. Notre
Dame is one of those places. Penn State's one of
those places that Texas A and MS also been there
a lot longer than those examples.
Speaker 5: They've been the same since they leve Malsanga.
Speaker 2: So these places think they should win national championships every year,
and they hadn't done it in forty fifty hell, almost
one hundred years for A and M.
Speaker 5: No, but you can't go four in twenty one. It's
top ten opponents.
Speaker 2: But a lot of people got to know how the
state Michigan problem. It's like a lot of people had
an Alabama problem for a while.
Speaker 5: Okay, what's a while though, Like when do you get
over that? How long has James Franklin been there? I
mean last year again, made to this semi final. I
made it farther than Michigan. I don't know, slippery slope. Well, hey,
we'll do this. We'll take a break. Or three minutes
past one we should have taken a break.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, and uh, we'll look up the record of
Penn State before James Franklin got there, and like where
it's at right now? Because maybe you're right, don't know.
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about is the Shuar Sanders.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he talking about his responses.
Speaker 2: I think p f T commentator said this earlier. His
dad was Primetime and he is mime time. So if
you don't know what we're talking about. Yesterday, Dylan Gabriel,
he's named the starter. Dylan Gabriel draft in the third round,
should standers in the fifth round. And they asked Should
Sanders about the situation, and he just it was a
mind like he lipped words, but no no actual it's
gonna call it.
Speaker 5: Lips singing or lip singing, but like there wasn't any
music yet, no actual words words.
Speaker 3: He moved his mouth and a.
Speaker 5: Lot dry like it's I have the sound going right now,
and look like he's a pretty good actor too, like
he can like his eyes are telling a story. It
looks like he's talking.
Speaker 2: Right and launch is right like it's it is like funny,
like there's something you'd see like on a TV show
or a skit or something. I'm just that's not doing
him any favors, like right, wrong or indifferent, love it,
hate it, whatever, because I don't really care, but it's
just not doing him any favors right now. He's trying,
Like if you're trying to be a starting quarterback of
a National Football League team, someone's going to see that
and they're just it's going to continue on with the
narrative that you think is already going on. They're just
not going to like it.
Speaker 5: It's bad look in the court of public opinion, and
like when people are trying to find read when you
know you're already in the spotlight and people are trying
to find answers to the question of like why you
fell off in the draft, why you're third stringth like
why why this?
Speaker 2: Why that?
Speaker 5: The easy answer. The only answer is like some sort
of immaturity, some sort of like I don't know if
I don't think it's a character thing because he seems
like a good kid, Like he seems like got a
good head on his shoulders. It's just is it in
a maturity thing? Is it a arrogance saying what? I
don't know what it is? So like you're trying to
change that perception. It's not helping the matter. But like
I'm not going to sit here and say that I
think it's a bad like it was a bad thing.
Like you had to understand, like when when a player
is in a locker room, like you don't really in
what twenty three, twenty two years or whatever, you don't
really like understand like when it's happening that you're talking
to millions of people at the time because you're talking
to the same John Jay four Beat, the four Beat
reporters that you have a good relationship. You see him
every single day, and there's probably one that's funny, and
there's one that's serious, and there's one that is you know,
you talk about he talks about their kids when.
Speaker 2: Like you have to REALI five years old right out
of journalism, schoolders one that's one hundred and twenty five
years old, and you like there might be an inside
joke with one of those reporters that he's like, he's
he's done this my main thing before, Like you don't
always have like this wherewithal in the cerebral, especially young players,
that you're talking to the entire country right now, You're
not you're talking it.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's like I'm just talking to this guy right now.
And and I joke around with them all the time.
We do this, we do that.
Speaker 5: But I think after the fact, I think Chef reported
that it was in reaction to I can't remember the show,
but it was on as man Rex Ryan talking about how.
Speaker 3: He needs to shut his mouth, right. I can't remember.
He was in a press conference.
Speaker 5: He was when I was talking about how say you're
sitting there with your arms folded, saying you should be
a starter.
Speaker 3: You can you can be a sitting in the front row.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep.
Speaker 5: And so that was his response was like, all right,
I'm just going to speak but not saying any words
technically didn't shut his mouth, like it's so open.
Speaker 2: So I so like, the one thing to me that
seems to get lost in this is Dylan Gabriel and
like him being named starting quarterback. It's like for Dylan Gabriel,
like he's already right now, right he's drinking to have
a fire hose. He's a rookie trying to be a
starting quarterback in the National Football League, and he was
the third round pick, like regardless of what happened during
the draft, like Shade Sanders was the fifth round pick,
So nobody should be surprised that Dylan Gabriel gets the
first opportunity. When Dylan Gabriel played in the preseason, he
was pretty good too, Like, he had a lot of
great moments, a lot of great drives. So he should
get the first opportunity because he earned that through training camp.
He was drafted ahead of where Shade Sanders was drafted.
Will Sanders get his opportunity maybe, so like for right now,
like Dylan Gabriel's trying to get ready for his first
career start and the conversations about everything else, which meant, hey,
maybe it's good for him. I don't know, but like
you know, he's gonna have to answer questions about this
too instead of their opponent.
Speaker 3: Oh no, it's that's why football is great. That's why
sports are great.
Speaker 5: It's just it's the it's reality television, and we keep
talking about it, we keep viewing in every sports show
in the country is talking about you know, this whole
miming situation. Is it a mind thing? I think mimes
did things with their hands. They didn't really like move
their mouths. I don't know what you would.
Speaker 2: I've never seen anything like it before.
Speaker 3: He's made something up.
Speaker 5: But it's funny.
Speaker 3: Well like mime's you know, famously get trapped inside box, right, and.
Speaker 2: He wasn't trapped inside a box.
Speaker 6: Was the box that the media keeps putting him in.
Speaker 3: What you did there?
Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys are aware, like somebody
somebody brings it up here too.
Speaker 4: Should Where's the first player to ever get criticized by
the absolutely first player?
Speaker 3: First player? Actually pretty good spot for for Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 2: He didn't.
Speaker 3: He just kind of gets a.
Speaker 5: Fly uno the radar be a starting quarterback for one
of thirty two NFL football teams, and it's not unheard
of that they make Joe Flacco the backup either. If
something emergency happens, Yeah, you're gonna put the guy in
the head. Seventy five years of experience, you're not gonna
throw in another rookie quarterback that hadn't had the first
team reps all week, like in an emergency situation, Like
what good is that gonna do?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 4: That that is the weird part, right, So many people
are like, Okay, Gabriel's is the started. Why is should
or still third string? The second string guy beat out
the first string guy. That doesn't mean the third string
guy did right, like you you're flip flopping it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and yeah, you might be giving up on the
Joe Flacco experience because it's just time to get your
one of your rookies ready. But like Should were saying,
it's just like like their rookies, you're not gonna throw
him in. Like, let's just say Dylan Gabriel got for
like gets hurt in the second quarter. That's two and
a half quarters that somebody's got to go play. Yeah,
let's go with the guy that's been taking first team
reps for like six straight weeks with Joe Flacco and
has twenty years experience, not a rookie that he didn't
get any reps except scout team all week. Like, so
it it's the play that's the move to keep him
there and make your older guy, the second string. I
hate the narrative going around like that's so this was
a bad look on them not to move him the
second string.
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 5: No, it's it would be unfair to Shador if he
had to get thrown in with no reps.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, because the second team guy might get maybe
maybe get three reps at the end of each period,
probably not even that once you get into the season,
but the third guy, certainly, the third guy's very like
lucky enough to even get some scout team reps. A
lot of times that second guy's like, no, no, no,
I got this. You go sit over there and so, hey,
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knows out there we're in the sports cards.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I recently did you ever give Huck his
latest card?
Speaker 3: I did?
Speaker 6: What was it?
Speaker 3: What was it good enough for h oh? Yeah, it
was good enough for me. All right.
Speaker 2: Well, you know's got a probably better collection than I do.
So just making sure you know, Oh boy, I really
want you to tell me, like you know, he was like,
this is it slabbed? But it's only a nine?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: That's this guy for real? He was, all right, So
I recently made a deal. Okay, so's this guy that
I met on the interwebs kind of surging because me
and you were both kind of looking for cards of us,
right like for our kids are really into my son.
Speaker 2: And I didn't even know I had I had numbered cards.
I didn't think numbered cards were a thing when we
were praying, but they were.
Speaker 5: So I finally got and he has got one of
the most incredible L s U former L s U
football player sports card collection.
Speaker 3: His name is Brooks Casting. He lives in Tennessee.
Speaker 5: So I've been talking with him and he's got some
incredible cards and I recently made a deal with him
get a couple of rare cards of myself. Yep, and uh,
he threw in a couple of things. Great, dude. I
want to give a shout out to him, big shout
out for making like a deal. Really cool. But on
top of the deal, he threw in some cards okay,
for years for you. Oh nice.
Speaker 3: So I have a whole box right here.
Speaker 5: I want you to take a look of Jacob Hester
numbered in autographed football cards.
Speaker 2: Sure, dim, this box is like full.
Speaker 5: Yeah, look at that. Pull some out right there. God,
that is awesome. So we got Brooks, you go check
them out. Let's see. I'm trying to.
Speaker 2: Figure and he gave him away because they're so valuable.
But he wanted to give us something. That's why he
gave him away. Not no, you know the reason. This
is awesome.
Speaker 5: You can go on as like Instagram, like you could
just see all the cool cards. He's got one of one,
you know his Instagram handle?
Speaker 2: Can we give it? Give that cast?
Speaker 3: And I'm trying to this is awesome.
Speaker 2: This is like literally a whole box.
Speaker 3: Full of cards. Okay.
Speaker 5: Lsu Tiger Collector sixty five shout out. So so then
I'll show you the cards that I have. These are awesome,
so check it out. I've been in a search for
one of one of myself, got me a slabbed one
oh one of one super fractor.
Speaker 2: Look at that action.
Speaker 5: It's right top's finest right there, and then Prism twenty
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Speaker 2: So you're gonna get those slapped up too.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we get these slapped up right there. So
twenty twelve, I believe it was the first year of PRISM,
so holds a lot of value. Do you think me
pretty much only?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. But do you think my guy
Brooks like was collecting these thinking like maybe one day,
like we'd be better than we were.
Speaker 3: Maybe one day these are gonna hit. These ones are
gonna hit one day.
Speaker 2: Hey, we both look got vested.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: No, he's a big LSU got And I don't know
if he like does it for like the hole that's
all like make it, but he just like that's his
that's his personal collection is is all LSU players, and
he's got some got some really cool stuff.
Speaker 3: So up, we appreciate it. So thank you, mister Brooks,
for making a deal being awesome.
Speaker 2: We're gonna get Tata involved in our sports card habit.
Speaker 3: We try to give him some Buccaneers cards.
Speaker 2: Well he gave Yeah, we gave him Cowboys at first,
but now he's got a new team. Now he's got
the Bucks, and so we we try to start his
Bucks collection as well.
Speaker 5: Devin colpe Ever pops off boys. I'm retiring Michael Pratt. True, uh, Laundra.
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Speaker 2: She declined it.
Speaker 3: She declined.
Speaker 2: It was it the past? Was it the throw from
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Speaker 6: It's it's been pretty much the season.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a good play by the defender. He
didn't see him coming bad read understand the receivers.
Speaker 6: Yeah, your receivers though.
Speaker 2: I know different different.
Speaker 5: So anyway, you got a whole box right there, autographs,
check those out. Yeah, I still have the Whimby card though.
Speaker 2: I know what you are getting for Christmas.
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