Speaker 1: What is going on? Glippers fans, Welcome to season four,
Episode twenty seven of Clips and Dip five hundred winning
percentage edition. We have made it. Yes, if you're watching
this on YouTube, you're seeing the fireworks from my thumbs up,
or you're not because my filter's broken. I know one
saw it. I am Chuck Mockler with Adam Osen and
William Updyke. We are Clips and Dip. We're gonna talk
about the NIXT game and all that stuff. We got
a good math in discussion and an upcoming game preview.
But Fellas season starts tomorrow, right, we're five hundred. How
are we feeling now that we have climbed the mountain
that no other team who was that bad through the
first twenty seven games of an NBA season as I
ever climbed.
Speaker 2: CHOP's not done yet, man, yeah, though, sorry, stop the
count sim the rest of the season.
Speaker 3: So Miami in the twenty sixteen twenty seventeen season, they
were eleven and thirty and finished forty one and forty one,
But who cares they were in the East.
Speaker 4: This is not the same games at all.
Speaker 1: I feel great. I liked that Kawhi didn't really care
I mean that in a nice way, like he was
like I was telling these guys like this doesn't matter,
but it's nice to get to five hundred. There's a
long way to go, even just in this month, but
fun way to do it. Beat the hell out of
the Knicks.
Speaker 4: That's a really good win. I mean a lot of
it hot shooting.
Speaker 3: They were to also do Nick's wrong place, wrong time
for the Clippers and knock down that many threes in
the first and fourth quarter. That game was kind of,
you know, bookended by got shooting from the Clippers, but
up into them plenty. I just can't believe they've been
this good. Well, I think since February first. They're only
shooting like thirty four point eight from three. It's rough,
and they're still this good.
Speaker 1: I think a leg part of it's the free throws.
We're getting the line a lot more since you'll start
breaking the grift we're drifting now. It is twenty twenty six,
clips got with the program? Will haggle, No haggle, Kawhi
is having his best offensive season ever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no haggle.
Speaker 1: It's great.
Speaker 2: It's great. It's just I wish the ceiling for this
season's outcome projected a little bit higher just with the
work that he's put in all year.
Speaker 1: That's an incredibly fair point.
Speaker 2: Like this version of Kawhi and this is you know,
this is no fall of the Clippers, it's the hand
that they were dealt. But uh, this version of Kawhi
absolutely deserves to be on a contender team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't start six and twenty one. Like part of
the reason is part of the reason injuries Kawhi DJ
John Collins, but part of it still didn't make sense.
There was there was stuff in their control and they
were losing so many close games and they couldn't get
over the hump forever. They never should have been six
and twenty one.
Speaker 4: But no, but I mean.
Speaker 3: Obviously they had some really bad fourth quarters in close
games that you know, once they got over the hump,
they started to kind of turn things around.
Speaker 4: With that Lakers game.
Speaker 2: How many lost abounds for God's sakes, like there's some
stuff that like there's some stuff with this team that's
sort of.
Speaker 1: Like it was gonna keep it out.
Speaker 2: Yes, there were absences, but even with the level of
available talent, there should have been some better results in that.
Speaker 1: You look at Collins's start to the year. For the
first month and a half, he was having literally from
two and three his worst shooting years like and that
again not his fault. He'd obviously figured that out, but
everyone was playing poorly at the same time.
Speaker 3: Beale gets hurt a couple of games in that up
ended a lot of their plans.
Speaker 1: We have a giveaway if anyone wants it, but we
got to figure it out.
Speaker 2: Has been on our ass for months now.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do at the end of the year. We
need to do a stream with Joseph Fry Award where
we just go from the beginning of the year to
the end of the year, just all the weird shit
that happened, because all of it in one list is
going to be really funny to look at because there's
again we've talked about it before, even for the Clippers.
This is one of the weirder seasons in a very
long time.
Speaker 3: I keep thinking about how Lawrence Frank met with fans
right and apparently it was reported that he said something
to the effect of, like, you know, do you guys
think this is a six and twenty one team or
whatever they were at that time, and he was right,
they never should have been that bad. I don't believe
in the Bill Parcells you are, which your record says you.
Speaker 4: Are like that.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, well, the.
Speaker 3: Lakers were never as good as a fifteen to four
team like they started, and the Clippers were never as
bad as a six and twenty one team. It just
obviously at this point you can tell this team is dangerous.
But the problem is you put yourself in that big
of a hole. Now, at best, are you getting San
Antonio in the first round? Is that the best you
can hope for?
Speaker 2: But this team if you were to sim from the
start of the season right, like knowing the even taking
the trade out of the equation, but like knowing no
bial I mean, like, would you really project this team
as much higher than a like seven in the seven
eight matchup? So like, in a way, your record kind
of is who you like, is who it says you are.
Like how many games would you, realistically at the start
of the season have thought this team to be above
five hundred?
Speaker 3: If you told me Kawis missed like what fifteen games,
maybe I probably would have had them a five or
six seed. Have you told me the Kawhi stats? And
like I probably would have had them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I could see.
Speaker 2: I could see six.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a little higher for sure, and a lot
more probably consistent. The lows wouldn't be you know, we
wouldn't go a month without winning a game, I think so,
I think it would be a more disperse What what
are you talking about? There was a cool staff from
last night. Kawhi was doubled on thirty four point three
percent of his touches, the sixth highest and a percentage
in a game for Kawhi this year, and the Clippers
got one point five points per direct touch when he
saw a double team, So we had a ton of
hockey assists. Something that's been frustrating for Clippers fans is
sometimes out of the double Kawhi, it is difficult, but
this was literally probably his best game passing out of
the double in a really long time. And now that
we have guys like Tereus Garland to be out there
and feast off of that, it's fantastic to see.
Speaker 2: Well, it's a so much more obvious choice, you know,
for a defense like you know, especially with no hard En,
it's you know a little bit easier to game plan.
So he's seen them a lot more. But everyone around
him has elevated to nullify it to a certain extent.
Speaker 3: I feel like the whole you know, Kawhi's weakness is
his passing and double teams is a little bit overblown
just because he's so unbelievable in every area.
Speaker 4: YE looking for something.
Speaker 3: It's like, he's not a high turnover guy. He never
has been in his career. He gets doubled all the time,
Like he has six turnovers the last six games total.
Speaker 1: Right while being doubled a third of the time against.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, I've never bought into the whole, like,
h this is this is always such a problem.
Speaker 4: It's like, it's really not that bad. Why is pretty sound?
Speaker 3: It's just eight stands out because he rarely makes mistakes.
Speaker 2: Eight to one assist a turnover ratio on that win
over the next.
Speaker 1: Just jesus, that's insane.
Speaker 2: The update is good.
Speaker 4: He let him in points rebounds.
Speaker 1: Jesus, Well, that was pretty solid. Yeah, he had he
was on pace for like forty at half. Oh, Adam,
we can you've seen the we talked about this on
the live that we did last But Shay's streak of
twenty plus points is Adam said two hundred games. Adam
had a lot of mis information on the live stream.
We did. Adam said two hundred games, but it's one
twenty six.
Speaker 4: So that maybe not have been accurate.
Speaker 1: So between now and next season, oh, it's only what.
Speaker 2: It's not even two full seasons.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like so Kawhi's got a shot at getting there.
Darius Garland continues to get better every game, which I'm
personally a fan of. He's shooting forty three from three
as a clipper, which helps Mathin's three point percent situation.
But Derek, Derek Jon.
Speaker 2: Get him in those steel toe boots off court now,
say get him in the pat PAVs exactly, get him,
get him in the Tims. They don't have a steel toe.
Speaker 1: That's true. Pro clips and dip tip Tims don't have
a steel toe means for cold weather. No, you're fake
cold weather person if you wear Tim's.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Derek Jones Junior called him a shifty mo after the game,
and it is not disparaging watching James Harden at all,
but this style of point guard is also very fun
to watch play basketball. The shit.
Speaker 2: I want to lean away from this conversation though, because
I feel like people are having it about face currently,
it seems like online about the James Harden.
Speaker 1: Experience, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: The whole thing, and I think that that is maybe
a little foolhardy. Is it a different style of play?
Of course, sure, we won plenty of games with the
James style of play, so I'm not that.
Speaker 1: I saw a podcast from a Cleveland a Cleveland podcast
that was like, is James Harden underrated as a clutch
setup guy? I was like, I don't think so. I
think he's very properly rated. It is a very good
there's a weird there's weird things happening with the Harden narrative. Sorry, Adam,
go ahead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an overreaction. And if Darius Garland has some
bad games, then it'll be like, oh I mischief hard
and he won US fifty games last season, and everything
will swing the other way. It's just the way it goes.
I don't really care so much about style of play.
I care about victories more than anything. Is it an
added bonus that it's really fun and more entertained to
watch this up and down game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, it's.
Speaker 1: Been good stuff. Four guys had seven boards against the Knicks,
which I think is a fun stat. I think that
shows this level of his team's buying in on little stuff,
especially from new guys.
Speaker 3: Ben nic Mattham is a really good rebounder for a guard,
like really good. You look at his rebound numbers every game,
it's it's kind of shocking.
Speaker 2: With twenty four boards.
Speaker 1: You want to be the mom stars. Oh wow, yeah,
ten against the.
Speaker 4: Grizz avergen over six sports per game.
Speaker 1: He also had twenty eight points and the Knicks bench
as a whole had fourteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Benedict was big in that third quarter. I think
he had twelve and I like that they got Brook
Lopez involved passing to him out of the high post.
That was a nice little wrinkle there with Ben cutting
for some easy ones. Then they also just kept looking
for him running down the floor, like catch him on
the run, throw a nice QB pass to him, and
just let him get to the basket. The way he
finishes at the basket is like it almost looks like
Russell Westbrook esque with how fast he goes, except he
has the touch to get them to fall when he's going.
Speaker 1: Really some times sometimes goes a little haywire.
Speaker 3: He definitely takes some wild ones, but for the most part,
I think he's been finishing well.
Speaker 1: What's the comp what's the comp that you brought up
before the pot?
Speaker 2: This is the Basketball Reference wind Shares analysis, which is,
you know, it's a bit of a wonky it's it's
a little bit of a wonky comparison. But they had
Tony Allen in the Benedict Mathern similarity scores. So I
guess just looking ahead, as you know, an upcoming free agent,
like what are you willing to give Mathurine? What do
you think of his role on the like coming off
the bench like this, I think that for this season,
it's definitely it's definitely the right calls. It's working well
for now.
Speaker 1: His bench scoring is like so badly needed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, one hundred. But as an upcoming free agent,
like you gotta you gotta wonder a little bit about
like what is the true upside of of Matherin, Like
is there?
Speaker 3: I think it's the biggest question, like is he a
very good sixth man or can he be a starter
for a championship team?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not gonna start because I think a Tony
Allen komp is disrespectful to Matherin offensively obviously.
Speaker 4: And a little I don't even know what that means, and.
Speaker 2: Very disrespectful defensively.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Matherine's not going to start for the Clippers
like during the end of this season. Less like fully
healthy are version of fully healthy. So everyone but Yannick
and Beale. Who Well, that's the other weird thing. There's
a Bradley Beal question, right.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's much of a question.
Speaker 4: I don't think there is.
Speaker 1: I thought he was still Is he signed a one
year a two year?
Speaker 4: No, I think it is.
Speaker 3: I think it is a two year, but it's five
million dollars.
Speaker 4: I don't think. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe he comes back healthy and surprises everybody and there's
a big part of the team.
Speaker 4: But that's a funky injury.
Speaker 3: He's older. This is a team trying to get younger.
I'd I see it almost like the Boge situation.
Speaker 1: We do have since the All Star break. One of
the best three man lineups. I think the second best
three man lineup is Kawhi Matherin in Garland. It's only
thirty two minutes over nine games, but they're plus thirty
two something there.
Speaker 3: I the garl Matthern in three hundred minutes. The Clippers
have a one zero six defensive rating with him on
the floor in like a one to sixteen offensive rating,
which is decent, but the defensive ratings kind of surprising.
Speaker 2: He has the athleticism to be a better defender even
than he is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're definitely getting more out of him on that end.
Speaker 1: I think I've I've liked, like, you know, he missed
the game winner and Kawi went over and was like,
it's a fine, keep doing shoot that kind of thing.
They have a lot of post interactions. I like the
Kawhi is kind of I guess may possibly kind of
surprisingly seemingly this vet mentor to Mathrin because what a
what better guy to learn how to be a professional
from than Kawhi Leonard And yeah they're bringing it. They're
also bringing a Tony Allen. But I like seeing that
because that helps the that at least helps the defensive effort. Right,
He's this guy that he maybe is starting to, you know,
be more of a young guy too. He can see
Kawi's motor even you know, coming back from an injury
and stuff like that. So everyone on the team tries,
you know what, I mean, like, there's not a guy
who even has a rep for not maybe being as
energetic on defense or the glass or something like that.
Like he's in an environment where everyone is trying their
ass off, and I think that will help his defense.
Speaker 3: I think Benedict the number one thing is just increases
basketball IQ, because there's times where I.
Speaker 2: Think that's the most frustrating part about his game.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just he's such a good individual scorer sometimes
that can work against guys playing within the team concept.
And coach Lee was talking postgame about how they had
to tell him about a play to make the extra
pass in the first half, and then the second half
he did when he found Darius Garland in the near
side corner who got a three pointer on Cat and
they swung around the horn and it looked like Benic
Matthern was like, I could take this, but you know what,
I'm gonna make the right pass this time.
Speaker 4: So I think there's some deep programming going on.
Speaker 3: He's twenty three, he's been playing a certain way in Indiana.
But coach who was asked, does he take well to coaching? Oh, yeah,
he does, he does.
Speaker 4: So I want to see what I want to see more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a damn knuckle ahead.
Speaker 4: The proof is in.
Speaker 3: His actions, and he looked good in the second half,
making better, smarter basketball players out there, So I think
we need to gather more evidence. When they got him,
we were kind of like, you know, this is really
fascinating player. What's his ceiling, what's his floor? And how
much can he help you impact winning? And it's not
just about individuals scoring out there, which can sometimes cover
up for maybe a guy who's a negative because he's
not playing within the flow of the offense.
Speaker 2: And what can the Clippers really do cap wise outside
of like four for twenty four at twenty.
Speaker 1: Got Collins too. You gotta sign both of those guys.
Collins is unrestricted. I don't know what.
Speaker 4: Oh restricted, Yeah, Collins Applix.
Speaker 1: Matthews restricted. Collins is unrestricted. I am fascinated to see
what his offers are because he was playing probably as
good a basketball as you could play for John Collins
in a contract year, freaking against the Celtics side.
Speaker 3: But his numbers also like that's DJ sorry, you know,
the totals aren't massive. Because he's playing winning basketball, He's
got to sacrifice some of his scoring it's not like
he's getting twenty per game.
Speaker 4: He's getting fourteen per game. So you know, the.
Speaker 3: Countable stats aren't outrageous, but impact wise, it's some of
the best basketball he's played before. He just got injured
the last couple.
Speaker 1: Of months, crashing the boards.
Speaker 4: Like yeah on the year. Yeah, after the slow start,
he's at forty two three.
Speaker 1: So are you giving twenty five a year to both
these guys?
Speaker 4: Uh? Does that? I'd rather see?
Speaker 3: My thing is can you get them both for forty combined?
So could you get twenty five to Collins and fifteen
to Benedict? Is that doable? I wonder if either one
would take you know.
Speaker 1: Three years, like some weird two in an option.
Speaker 3: Yeah, two plus one play your option, Like I could
see Benedict one to have a shorter deal to get
out earlier in case he really pops in the next
two seasons and he can really claim that value.
Speaker 1: Yeah, two and one get out when you're twenty six
if you're crushing it. Clippers will have space that year too, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Like maybe it's a two plus one forty five total
fifteen million per year?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do wonder if will do you think Collins
is weird injuries this year hurt him. Next year he's
got the head thing he was coming back. Yeah, Like I.
Speaker 2: Don't know, it's it's possible, like it could be a factor,
but like you know, it's it's market dependent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true too.
Speaker 2: How is the I don't have a ton of markets realistically.
Do you know what? What are twenty nine other teams
willing to pay?
Speaker 1: Is it a good free agency here this year?
Speaker 4: Not really? And there's not a lot of money out.
Speaker 2: There, and Alice has never asked for the trade.
Speaker 1: That's actually the most important thing we wanted to talk
about today. Actually, the most important thing I think we
need to highlight is now that we are five hundred.
There was a very funny update from a guy named
call me Joel's Joel's Way. Back in January, he commented
on our YouTube, I started dating a girl the night
we lost to the Grizzlies, and we were six and twenty.
Since that night, the Clippers are fourteen and four. Regardless
of how I feel, I refuse to end this relationship
until the playoffs were over. Just in case. Let's keep ascending,
my guys. He gave an update yesterday. He said, update
is the team hit five hundred, we say I love you,
I have met all her friends, and she's traveling with
me to a wedding in San Diego soon. Full circle
because we watched the Grizzlies game with that loss being
our first date. She was sad about the hard and
trade and loves Lopez. Good things can happen to Clippers fans,
I think is the moral of this story. Shout out
those Shout out those two people. Yeah something some papers.
Speaker 4: Eat it together, like making it like the noodle one
lady in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a flop tweet. Oh that's a great bit.
All right, Anything else about the game against the nextra
free agency before we talk about this Wolves game. That
feels like we've played fifteen of the last two weeks.
Speaker 3: Kawhi Leonard's Wallett definitely says bad motherfucker right now. I
could not believe how bad he punked og in multiple
possessions in the second quarter.
Speaker 4: That was incredible.
Speaker 1: That's the offensive season he's ever had. Pretty crazy. All right,
coming up, there's gonna be a quick audio break. You're
watching us for not going anywhere. If you'd like to
watch us, you can find us at YouTube dot com.
So it's at Clippers podcast break, and then we are
talking a little bit of the rest of the March
and the Wolves game coming up in three two one.
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in In case you were unaware,
we're about a third of the way through the hellish
eighteen game stretch that is March five and one on
that stretch, finally at five hundred, where this team deserves
to be, but it again hangs in the balance against
the Wolves, where Charles, you were saying, we're constantly playing
the Wolves, right, turn it out. Are the Clippers finally
a winning team?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is crazy. This is to be a winning team.
Now the pressure is too great. Let's get back to
under five hundred. I don't know what to make of.
I mean, it's two kind of like really good teams
playing each other, right, but like the Wolves never seem
to play very good against the Clips recently, it's been
those games.
Speaker 2: Are the Clips a winning.
Speaker 3: Team and they're close games, but the Wolves do usually
win them. And the Clippers they had the blowout game
in Minnesota right after the trade deadline.
Speaker 4: I was really hyped. I was like, this team is dangerous. Lookout.
Speaker 3: They don't even have Mathron yet, but then they lost
to them in that close game and into it Dome
ninety four to eighty eight.
Speaker 4: But that was without Kawhi. That was without Kawai.
Speaker 3: Mathern for starting four or fourteen zero four from the outside, yeah,
they like that was without Kauai, without John Collins, and
people freaked out so hard, and they were killing Kauai
after this game, like he doesn't care, he doesn't want
to play. It's like, guys, he's legitimately injured. Uh, he's
still on a minute restriction right now. I think the
Clippers can win this game, especially because Minnesota's on the
second half of back to back. All these rest advantages
the Clippers have in March, they could come up huge.
Speaker 1: Well are you taking the dub? Are they a winning team?
Speaker 2: They're winning team?
Speaker 1: Damn all right. I like that we said the clips
are five and one in March. We said last episode
that we'd be satisfied with eleven and seven. Will has
that changed? Are we should we want more eight and
four the rest of the way out?
Speaker 2: So that puts us at thirteen and five.
Speaker 1: You go thirteen and five, thirteen and five. I feel like.
Speaker 2: Thirteen and five would be incredible it's doable too.
Speaker 4: It is, it really is.
Speaker 1: They're four and one or five and one.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, this one guy on Twitter was hounding me
saying they're gonna go fifteen and three, and I was like, yeah,
I don't know about that one guy, but now maybe, dude,
I know the receipt reversal.
Speaker 1: The Wolves. Since the All Star Break, they're six and two.
Their plus minus is minus one point three. They're winning
close ish games and they've gotten their asses kicked by
the Magic and the seventy six ers. And I don't
mean that disrespectfully. They lost by like almost thirty in
both of those games. I like it. I like, I
think I'm buying into this. I think they will be
a winning team at the end of.
Speaker 2: It's our time.
Speaker 1: It's finally our time. We will be one game over.
Speaker 2: We beared a six and twenty one start. We deserve
to be winning.
Speaker 1: We deserve to have a five game We deserve to
have a point five ZHO nine winning percent.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: That that last loss of the Wolves recently. No Kawhi,
no Collins, no Garland. Two of those three are playing
John Collins.
Speaker 4: They said.
Speaker 3: John Collins said they could he could be out for
the week. They said to have out John Collins yesterday.
Speaker 1: Oh he is out for the week's Yeah, that's what
I thought. Tom Eric confirmed it.
Speaker 4: That sounds like, so that sucks.
Speaker 3: He's He's done some contact practices but isn't expected to
play this week.
Speaker 1: Derek Jones Unior has been great. We're gonna need him
to be good against the Wolves.
Speaker 4: Derek Jones Junior's one of the best players, one of
the best role players in the league the last month.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that for sure. Yeah, I'm
really looking forward to see. There was a possession last
game when Matherin switched from Nasred being his primary defender
to Jane McDaniels, and it was like, well this, this
is obviously not how this is supposed to go. So
I'm excited to see like Garfland and Kawhi out there
now to make that shit easier because we need his
scoring off the bench, and they kind of had him
in hell last time.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think it was right after he missed the shot
against Orlando and maybe you put him a shooting funk.
Speaker 4: Might have been in his head a little bit.
Speaker 1: Finally, weak is what you're saying.
Speaker 3: No, just he's young and he cares and he was
thinking about that shot.
Speaker 1: We don't think Ben Maths been medic mentally week at all.
Speaker 2: Doesn't quite have that Tony Allen mindset.
Speaker 1: That's the most insane bit. No, Tony Allen, They're like
an old guy from Memphis. I had a note here
that was No. I had a note here that was
who will give the other team less free stuff? Since
the like as a giveaway? Yes, since the All Star break.
The Clips are fourth and turnovers per game and the
Wolves are twenty sixth, So the Wolves are turning the
ball over quite a bit. And the free throw battle.
The Clippers are second in free throw attempt per game,
Wolves are tenth, so they're not doing bad. They are
ten top ten. But the turnover thing is gonna be
huge because the Clippers have done a phenomenal job at
taking care of the ball better, obviously with Darius Garland
being back. But I don't want to see sloppy clips.
I don't want any inbounds pass to ruin our night
and take us back to four ninety eight.
Speaker 3: It's pretty shocking that they're thirteen turnovers per game the
last ten or twelve point seven, top five in the
league all these different lineups.
Speaker 4: That's it's wild last night, That's.
Speaker 3: One of the big reasons they won the game. They
had eight turnovers, Nicks had twenty that many, and the
Clippers capitalize on those twenty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, damn yeah. I think we're gonna I think they're
gonna be over five hundred.
Speaker 3: What I want is Minnesota to win in a close
game tonight over the Lakers where they have to play
their guys minutes.
Speaker 4: That's what I want.
Speaker 1: I like that we did have Yanick the last time
we played the Wolves, who got six free throws and
played six like. So, Isaiah Jackson, who has been so
good in his minutes, is going to have to continue
to be pretty good, I think, or we see more
in the small ball.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Isaiah yesterday struggled in foul trouble the Memphis game,
though he saved them.
Speaker 1: Even before that. Like he's been playing like the spot
minute since he's had to come in have been mostly
acceptable to good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, his hustle is great.
Speaker 3: His switch ability defensively was pretty impressive against Memphis.
Speaker 4: They need him for fifteen minutes a game pretty much
every night.
Speaker 1: Now, well, where are you at on the small ball thing?
Because a lot of people have been clamoring for when
Collins comes back to I have people saying he should
be the starting center, But I don't think we'll go
back crazy.
Speaker 2: I'm not there yet. You know, it is another look
certainly down Yonick. I mean it is something you would
expect to see more, but like they were kind of
they've been flirting with that, you know all season, uh instance,
So yeah, I mean I expected to continue. No, I
don't think it'll supplant the starting rotation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it worked really well against was what game was that?
It's two games ago? Was it the Grizzlies. Yeah, it
worked super well against the Grizzlies.
Speaker 4: And changed the game second quarter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was sick.
Speaker 3: And nobody remembers when coach lu goes small ball and
it works all the time. Why have so many people
hating on Brook Lopez lately? It's like the same people
that were saying he is better than beats the Zubas.
Three of the last four games he had at least
sixteen points. Efficiently, he's been solid, and he's been.
Speaker 1: Doing normal center stuff like passing out of the short role,
not just shooting threes. It's been good people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: They're pissed off. It's difficult to be happy.
Speaker 3: And now they're like, but we need a center who
can guard Jokic and.
Speaker 4: Do these things Like yeah, I'm sorry, they're wrong.
Speaker 3: They lost they lost the Visa Zoop Boss like they
had that guy, they lost him. You have to give
to get and then they lost Yanik for the rest
of the season.
Speaker 1: It is weird, how like the memory is so shortage stopper. Yeah,
it is weird. How like the sports some of the
modern sports fan memory and context works like it just
like removes all contexts like oh, math was bad against
the Wolves. You're like, there's no one else out there
to be the scoring, you know what I mean. Like
things like that are like it's.
Speaker 4: Just yeah, it's game to game.
Speaker 1: It's not all up here, right, Let's yeah, let's let's
take let's take our step back.
Speaker 4: Who played well tonight? What have you done for me lately?
Speaker 1: Or don't take a step back and fully just this
is a winning team.
Speaker 2: A lot of people are gonna have to change their ten.
Speaker 1: When the buzzer finally sounds at nine twenty six pm.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow, we'll see who's laughing.
Speaker 1: I'm laughing all the way to the bank, the winners bank,
it's across the street. Who we got for player of
the game? Will you can't pick Kawhi? What what? Obviously
Kawhi has to have like twenty eight points on sixty
percentury shooting or something tomorrow for the Clippers to.
Speaker 2: Be and he still won't be player of the game.
Speaker 5: Nope, I wanna go Garland?
Speaker 1: Nice?
Speaker 2: Can I go Garland?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think, Uh this new look, now that Harden's not
dragging us, now shout finally be a winning team.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, the shifty bit this will be needed. Make
their taller dudes, because he had talked about he's obviously
a shorter guy. But this is a big ass Minnesota team, like,
so that will be an interesting test.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the Brookie Monster, Gonna pull Gobart
away from the basket, hit a couple of threes, all right.
Speaker 1: I've been picking Derek Jones Junior the last like it
feels like two weeks in a row and it's been
great picks every single time.
Speaker 2: I'm going mather in redemption game.
Speaker 1: Redemption game, mental redemption game for Mathron against the Wolves.
He's gonna come off the bench. He's gonna put up
like he's gonna get to the line like eight times.
It's gonna be great.
Speaker 4: Mental math.
Speaker 1: Mental math, that's what we're gonna get. We're getting mental
math and it's gonna be fantastic. One last thing there
was I don't know if this is an update, but
it was an announcement from the Clippers. Yannick underwent season
ending foot surgery today. His timetable beyond this season is
undetermined as of now.
Speaker 2: What's on something like a Grant.
Speaker 1: Mona did an interview with a foot doctor and that
clip said half yeah, it was the It was he
created the living version of the happy Foot Sad Foot.
Speaker 4: It was then James of Foot Doctors.
Speaker 1: Kevin Farr, an orthopedic surgeon in sports medicine specialists from
the University of Florida Health. He said it was about
six month recovery time OH dance cases. Shout out Grant
Mona for doing that reporting.
Speaker 3: It's I guess check came back around eight months and
was doing five on five and was basically ready to go,
but they didn't need him to go.
Speaker 4: They were trying to tank.
Speaker 2: So I mean, he's not ready. Opening night, we're gonna
be probably not we're going to be out our starting
center for a while.
Speaker 4: Yeah, is he the starting center? Is Brooke back? Did
they pick somebody up? What's happening?
Speaker 1: And I really liked Brooke, But I don't necessarily want
him back next year. I guess, depending what the free
agent market.
Speaker 4: Looks like, he'll be thirty eight.
Speaker 3: A lot of people want Isaiah hardensteinback, but well, sure.
Speaker 4: You have to pay him a lot of money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me look. Hold on, I've looked at the
free agent center market way too much, just in general
over the last couple of years.
Speaker 2: Huh, wait to get rid of Zoo?
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh man, let's get a guy who's worse than
this guy. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I
don't want to fill my brain with twenty twenty seven
free agents, right.
Speaker 3: I just wouldn't want to pay a guy a ton
of money when we know Yanick is coming back and
we need to get him more minutes. You know they're
going to have Isaiah Jackson unless they trade him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 4: Can they get.
Speaker 3: Somebody, you know, cheap on one year deal just to
have for some insurance, because yeah, there's a good chance
you won't be playing open to night.
Speaker 1: Well that's fun.
Speaker 4: But maybe not I don't know that being said, maybe
he'll be Kayler.
Speaker 1: Maybe it didn't even really get surgery. Maybe it wasn't
even hurt.
Speaker 2: I mean, they don't the expectation for Achilles turning around.
Maybe I did do the same thing for the foot.
Speaker 1: I felt, how many months has it been? Ten?
Speaker 2: Eight months? Something like that.
Speaker 1: Eight months.
Speaker 4: I'm like, Adam, yeah, ten, oh, okay.
Speaker 1: I think it's a funny thing, like like in terms
of like aging, where I was like that, like in
my head, it's like how people felt like when Cheryl Miller,
like tore acl was like, well, you're never gonna be
able to do anything again. In my head Achilles terrors,
Like ten months is mind blowing to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just didn't come back from it all. Oh yeah, fully,
you know, like but for the timeline to be that short,
it's pretty pretty crazy crazy.
Speaker 3: He looks pretty damn good. I mean, KD lost a
little bit, but it looks pretty good.
Speaker 4: Like that was the first.
Speaker 2: One where it was like, Okay, so this isn't a
career ending injury. It just doesn't have to be like
a career ender.
Speaker 1: Because even look how different play looked when he did his.
Speaker 2: But he also had the knee.
Speaker 4: Like right after Belton Brand never looked the same. Yeah,
most guys don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. It was just such a funny, like, Okay,
we're fully in the future because you can come back
and play be a basketball for one of the best
teams after ten months. All right, anything else before we
send Clippers fans on their way?
Speaker 2: Do you really need an achille standon?
Speaker 1: Hmmm, My muscles are strong enough. You could just do
what your tender. Your muscles can have two jobs.
Speaker 4: Oh, is this good or bad? Lebron is out to
that against Minnesota?
Speaker 1: Good? The Lakers play better without Lebron.
Speaker 4: So bad?
Speaker 1: I don't even know if that's true.
Speaker 4: How what Minnesota win?
Speaker 1: I know, but it'll still be a battle, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 4: Yeah, wear I'm out. I got to give a Laker's credit.
Speaker 3: They made Jalen Brunson play forty minutes on that front
end of the back to back.
Speaker 1: That is true. I'm gonna put more of the credit on.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be the he's out there, he's out there
playing for Custodydamn.
Speaker 1: Oh man. Yeah, I sent some funny texts about that
all right, we are out of here. We're gonna do
a live hang on Thursday. It should be a full
episode out next week. Will Where can people voice their
thoughts about the show? Should they want.
Speaker 2: To carrier pigeon? Please carrier pigeon if you can swing it.
That's the best way to get a hold of us.
But you can also tell us what you think about
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we watch you know, we.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you, We very much do. And Adam, this has
been difficult at certain parts of the season, notably in November,
but now it might get easier because we might be
a winning team officially after tomorrow night. One positive thing
to get these Clippers fans hyped. We're just feeling fine.
Speaker 3: All right, so guys, to this point, the Clippers are
one of five teams since December twentieth to rank in
the top ten in both half court offense and half
court defense. The other four are Oklahoma City, San Antonio,
Boston and Cleveland Clippers are the best transition offense in
the NBA during that time as well. I just came
up with that is definitely not from Justin Russo at
Fly by Night kN Ite on X. The transition offense
thing is pretty freaking wild, and I have to give
a ton of credit to Kawhi to just saying, hey, hey,
you want to run half court, I'm the best player
in the world. You want to get in transition, I'm
also the best player in the world. Why it's been
so good?
Speaker 1: That was such a positive note. You pronounced Justin's name.
Speaker 4: Correctly, I said, Rousseau.
Speaker 1: Thank you to everyone for listening. We will be back
hopefully talking about how we're such a great winning team
in a couple of days and as always, let's go clips.