Speaker 1: Ay thirty one, think about Karsity Talk Station A very
Speaker 1: happy Friday Eve. You always made extra special happier because
Speaker 1: I heard me. The aviation expert Jay Ratli joins the program.
Speaker 1: His real job is to actually make money in the
Speaker 1: stock market, and you too could learn how to make
Speaker 1: six thousand dollars in twelve minutes.
Speaker 2: So we don't do that. We don't do that all
Speaker 2: the time. But that was that was good. But yeah,
Speaker 2: we're halfway through the fourth quarter and I think my
Speaker 2: portfolio is up sixty nine percent, so see that. That
Speaker 2: to me is one of the reasons that I do
Speaker 2: not like the long term buy, hold and pray approach
Speaker 2: because to me, it's a catch and release and the
Speaker 2: more you do it, the more you make.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, and you do teach people your method
Speaker 1: and I know that works and I've observed it over
Speaker 1: the years because you always keep me up to speed
Speaker 1: on it. It's like you're trying to make me jealous.
Speaker 1: Jay twelve, No, I just want to make you. Just
Speaker 1: don't want you to think I'm full of it, so
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I'm a i'd agree of integrity
Speaker 2: to this show, and I want to make sure I
Speaker 2: maintained those that high level.
Speaker 1: Well, if you had your say, since Spirit Airlines as
Speaker 1: filed for Chapter eleven bankruptcy, would that merger what was
Speaker 1: with Jet Blue that was denied or prohibited by the
Speaker 1: government officials? Would that have saved Spirit from this?
Speaker 2: I think it could have. But the problem was that
Speaker 2: when you overlap the two route maps, there were so
Speaker 2: many cities they served at the same time that you
Speaker 2: were going to be seeing a great number of jobs
Speaker 2: lost and you were going to see far fewer flights
Speaker 2: as a result of that combination. And that's one of
Speaker 2: the reasons that the government didn't allow it. It's simply
Speaker 2: just from a from a consumer standpoint, it didn't make
Speaker 2: sense because the two things that would happen would be
Speaker 2: you'd have airports that would be less served because you'd
Speaker 2: have two airlines now just down to one. And if
Speaker 2: combined they operated nine flights a day into a specific airport,
Speaker 2: a combined airlines is not going to operate nine, they're
Speaker 2: going to operate four or five. You're going to have
Speaker 2: fewer employees, and the fewer number of low cost seats
Speaker 2: that you have, the higher the fare. So just all
Speaker 2: around was never anything I like now when initially, when
Speaker 2: Spirit in Frontier we're going to get together. You lay
Speaker 2: those route maps down and they were perfect. They compliment
Speaker 2: each other perfectly. And that's the one I wanted because
Speaker 2: I thought the two of these combined could really create
Speaker 2: a stronger, low cost carrier. The problem was Jet Blue,
Speaker 2: like you know, some rich suitor steps in and says,
Speaker 2: let me pay more. And that's when, you know, Spirit
Speaker 2: count told Frontier see you later, and left. And the
Speaker 2: funny part was, after the merger with jet Blue was denied,
Speaker 2: Spirit went limping back to Frontier. Frontier said, no, we
Speaker 2: don't want to merge now. And of course, and you know,
Speaker 2: you and I've talked because for the last three months,
Speaker 2: four months, I've had people email. Let me say, Jay,
Speaker 2: Spirit Airlines, my gosh, there's stock is done eighty five
Speaker 2: percent this year. It's got to be a screaming buy.
Speaker 2: I said, well, part of that, right, screaming is accurate.
Speaker 2: Please do not buy it because it was at two
Speaker 2: fifty three dollars a share, what have you. And when
Speaker 2: the file for bankruptcy took place, as we expected that
Speaker 2: it would yesterday or day before, that stock dropped to
Speaker 2: what fifteen cents of share. Whoa, whoa, You just don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just that's one of the reasons that
Speaker 2: when people email me saying, hey, Jay, this stock said
Speaker 2: it's fifty two weeks low. Who cares? Who cares? It's
Speaker 2: at that low for a very good reason. That doesn't
Speaker 2: mean go buy it, But you know, that's what the
Speaker 2: way some people think from an investment standpoint, and a
Speaker 2: lot of people played follow the leader and ended up
Speaker 2: losing a great deal of money in the process, and
Speaker 2: you just got to be careful. Now, look, if a
Speaker 2: lot of people that have Spirit Airlines in their cities
Speaker 2: listen to us, I know because they email me if
Speaker 2: I've got a reservation on Spirit, I'm not worried they're
Speaker 2: going to continue business as usual. The Chapter eleven process
Speaker 2: is something that is core to prove mandated overseeing, and
Speaker 2: it's what American Airlines has gone through, it's what United
Speaker 2: Airlines has gone through. So many of these carriers have
Speaker 2: so from our side of the ticket counter, we're probably
Speaker 2: not going to notice much of a change. Now. Spirit's
Speaker 2: not made money since I don't know, five or six
Speaker 2: years ago. They've lost a ton of money, but they're
Speaker 2: changing their business model so that they're going to start
Speaker 2: offering some premium seats and other things. And Brian, I'm
Speaker 2: excited for them, and I really think they're going to
Speaker 2: come out of this much stronger. I still want to
Speaker 2: see him here in Cincinnati because, look, I want as
Speaker 2: many low cost carrier seats in this airport as we
Speaker 2: can get.
Speaker 1: A men to that. And hasn't the landscape change for
Speaker 1: the better for the consumer here in Cincinnati because of
Speaker 1: the offerings that we have now that we used to
Speaker 1: not have.
Speaker 2: Well, the hard work by the people that are there.
Speaker 2: Candae mcgirls you know, on her way out to bigger
Speaker 2: and better things, and she and her team and many
Speaker 2: of them who've told me not to mention them on
Speaker 2: the air because they want to brag on them like crazy.
Speaker 2: They say, Nope, it's a team effort, so we're going
Speaker 2: to stay a team. They're doing a great job. And Brian,
Speaker 2: the stuff they do my hind the scenes to get
Speaker 2: existing carriers to give us more flights and to bring
Speaker 2: in new carriers to give us more options is just incredible.
Speaker 2: They are the envy of the country. They continue to
Speaker 2: be and I'm asked about Cincinnati when I'm on the
Speaker 2: West coast talking in New England, They're like, my gosh,
Speaker 2: you know, Cincinnati's really turned it around. How did they
Speaker 2: do it? And I said, because the community is now
Speaker 2: supporting low cost carriers and they're just flooding in here
Speaker 2: and taking advantage of it.
Speaker 1: Unsung here is behind the scenes making things better for
Speaker 1: all of us. Will continue, Amen, Why does an air
Speaker 1: traffic controller need to warn a plane about avoiding mountains?
Speaker 1: Big question I've got. We'll talk about that one a
Speaker 1: whole bunch more coming up with I art Mediava Snacksbert
Speaker 1: Jay Rattle If I hope you stick around, Spoz Kruger
Speaker 1: will be a little busy this morning. Bread milk, stay
Speaker 1: off the roads if you can't manage wet roads. I
Speaker 1: art Mediavation Nextsbert Jay ratl If this next story that
Speaker 1: you identified has got me a little bit puzzled. And
Speaker 1: air traffic controller orders in American Airline flight to expedite
Speaker 1: a climb to avoid mountains.
Speaker 2: What, yes, Well, that it's true, and we're trying to
Speaker 2: find out exactly the sequence of events here. But the
Speaker 2: American Airlines flight took off out of Honolulu, and there's
Speaker 2: a correction in course after you take off in an
Speaker 2: increase in altitude that for some reason wasn't being executed
Speaker 2: by this particular flight crew, and the air traffic controller
Speaker 2: noticed it and told them to expedite their climb. Now,
Speaker 2: when the term expedite is used, it's used for a
Speaker 2: very specific reason.
Speaker 1: It means do it now, you're going to fly into
Speaker 1: a mountain.
Speaker 2: Well, they weren't. They weren't close to it, because I mean,
Speaker 2: had they been close, dangerously close, you would have had
Speaker 2: the traffic collision avoidance system kick in telling them low
Speaker 2: terrain pull up, and they would have responded immediately to
Speaker 2: avert any danger or impact into the mountain. Now keep
Speaker 2: in mind that they weren't at that point, but the
Speaker 2: headlines around the country all I read was, you know,
Speaker 2: this aircraft narrowly missed the mountain, and you know it
Speaker 2: wasn't really the case, but you know, hets off to
Speaker 2: the air traffic controller who was monitoring it and saw
Speaker 2: what was going on and told them to do it,
Speaker 2: and the flight grew immediately complied. And right now they're
Speaker 2: looking at somethings trying to figure out, Okay, what was
Speaker 2: the reason for this. Was it a pilot air was
Speaker 2: it some sort of a maintenance issue with some of
Speaker 2: the components on the aircraft. Miscommunication. Yeah, I mean, they're
Speaker 2: going to have to look at exactly what caused it.
Speaker 2: But Brian, one of the things that to me, I'm
Speaker 2: the most thankful for in this kind of a situation
Speaker 2: is that a mistake was made and we can learn
Speaker 2: from that and we can make commercial aviation safer as
Speaker 2: a result, and no one got hurt or killed. Far
Speaker 2: too often these lessons have to come at the expense
Speaker 2: of injuries or fatalities. So anytime that we can learn
Speaker 2: a lesson about something that's going to make aviation even
Speaker 2: safer than it is, then I'm thrilled because we just,
Speaker 2: you know, made a mistake, Yes, but whatever happened is
Speaker 2: going to be communicated to airlines and flight crews around
Speaker 2: the entire world. So we're all going to learn from
Speaker 2: it and we're all going to see commercial aviation improve
Speaker 2: as a result. Well all, if it was a dumb mistake,
Speaker 2: it's going to be something highlighted that we can avoid
Speaker 2: in the future.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, And you know, another illustration why it's nice
Speaker 1: to have live people in the cockpit and also it's
Speaker 1: great to have air traffic controls that are paying attention
Speaker 1: and that everything fell into place and the problem was
Speaker 1: indeed avoided. So you're right, I'm glad you focus on
Speaker 1: the positivity, which is one of the reasons I like
Speaker 1: you so much, Jay, You were always focusing on the positive,
Speaker 1: all right, Moving over to try.
Speaker 2: To more than our friends at Boeing who were laying
Speaker 2: off what seventeen thousand employees, and I mean the Boeing
Speaker 2: CEO came out and said, I mean, look, we're a
Speaker 2: low here. And his frustration is he told is his employees,
Speaker 2: we're spending more time arguing among ourselves than trying to
Speaker 2: figure out how we can catch airbus. And he's really
Speaker 2: trying to change the culture, the mindset, the just the
Speaker 2: just the thought process of the employees there, saying, look,
Speaker 2: we've got one hundred thousand people that we've got to
Speaker 2: be pointed in the right direction and if we're not,
Speaker 2: we're gonna have problems. And his hands are full and
Speaker 2: he's doing everything that he can. But look, they just
Speaker 2: gave their employees a massive, massive pay raise, and to
Speaker 2: think that that wasn't going to come at the cost
Speaker 2: of some jobs, I mean, please hello, I mean, of
Speaker 2: course they're gonna have to figure out a way to do
Speaker 2: it because Bowen's losing money right now. They're not gonna
Speaker 2: get paid till those aircraft get delivered. You got to
Speaker 2: make them before they can deliver them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just waiting to have on your list, you know,
Speaker 1: Boeing files for chapter eleven bankruptcy someday here, Jay Ratler, No.
Speaker 2: It's I mean, they're they're point well with all the
Speaker 2: defense contract that they've got to I suspect they're going
Speaker 2: to be getting a lot more here soon. They're gonna
Speaker 2: be okay there, But on the commercial aviation side of things,
Speaker 2: they've really got to kick it in the gear. And
Speaker 2: as I've told you is if they get into bigger hurry,
Speaker 2: do we run the risk of a making mistakes that
Speaker 2: got us into this mess?
Speaker 1: Memory more than likely. Let's pause. We'll bring Jay Raydler
Speaker 1: back because I don't want to give a short trip
Speaker 1: to this next story, because yet I believe it can
Speaker 1: happen in Haiti. But Dallas, hang on a second, one
Speaker 1: more with Jay Rattler here on a Friday, Eve eight
Speaker 1: forty five and fifty five KR see the talk station
Speaker 1: fifty five KRC.
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 1: Everybody, It's Peter Schrager. One more time for the weather
Speaker 1: and one more time remind you get some snow out
Speaker 1: there today. They say after three pm it could be
Speaker 1: heavy at time. Let's just be careful on the road.
Speaker 1: Thirty six will be your high today and that's right
Speaker 1: where it is now a little bit lower, overcast, overnight,
Speaker 1: breezy and some snow as well. Slick roads are possible.
Speaker 1: Thirty for the overnight. Forty three the high tomorrow, with
Speaker 1: a wintery mix in the morning, spotty light rain after
Speaker 1: that moves out mostly claudi over night down to thirty seven.
Speaker 1: Saturday is going to be a high of fifty with
Speaker 1: mostly cloudy skies closing out at thirty five. Time for
Speaker 1: final traffic Chuck Ingram.
Speaker 3: From the uc SCOLP Traffic Center. Are you one of
Speaker 3: the thirty eight million American timpacted by diabetes? Got personalized
Speaker 3: education and treatment options from the experts that you see
Speaker 3: ol learn more at UCLT dot com. Cruse continue to
Speaker 3: work for the wreck he's found on the Reigen Highway
Speaker 3: near Galbreth. Traffic is heavy from Hamilton Avenue. You could
Speaker 3: add close to an extra half hour northbound seventy five
Speaker 3: between Burlington Pike and downtown. There's a wreck on seven
Speaker 3: forty seven above Union Center, chucking fromout fifty five krs
Speaker 3: the talk station.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been in the cockpit before? Man, it'd
Speaker 1: be a very safe place to be understanding what the
Speaker 1: next story is all about? Jay rattl if I heard
Speaker 1: media aviation expert, this has got me kind of wigged out. Jay,
Speaker 1: I've been concerned about the mass influx of immigrants. A
Speaker 1: lot of people have no idea why they're here, what
Speaker 1: they want to do other here. I'm concerned about potential
Speaker 1: tarist cells all that, and I'm familiar enough with ballistics
Speaker 1: and firearms and rifles to know that, yeah, pretty much
Speaker 1: anybody could hit an airplane if that's what they want
Speaker 1: to do now. It happened in Haiti, where there's so
Speaker 1: much disruption, political discord, and they haven't had their act
Speaker 1: together for decades and decades. They got gangs from the place.
Speaker 1: It's basically anarchy. So it happens in Haiti, I can
Speaker 1: kind of get it. But a Southwest Airline plane in
Speaker 1: Dallas got hit by gunfire prior to departure, and that's
Speaker 1: got me a little freaked out. Do we know exactly
Speaker 1: anything behind the details on this jay, We.
Speaker 2: Do not yet, And one of the things that we
Speaker 2: know is that at the time of it happening, the
Speaker 2: flight crew heard something that they described as a rattle
Speaker 2: as they were preparing for takeoff, and they thought it
Speaker 2: was a mechanical issue, went back to the gate and
Speaker 2: told the passengers on board there might be a possible
Speaker 2: mechanical issue, and they obviously when got back to the gate,
Speaker 2: they found a bullet hole in the side of the aircraft.
Speaker 2: Passengers were simply re routed, most of them totally unaware
Speaker 2: of what had happened, not till the news came out
Speaker 2: later in the day, and then law enforcement got involved
Speaker 2: so that they could try to determine, Okay, was this
Speaker 2: a targeted event where somebody was specifically aiming at this
Speaker 2: Southwest air Line seven thirty seven, or was it someone
Speaker 2: a mile away or whatever that just an errant shot
Speaker 2: that just happened to hit the aircraft. Now you have
Speaker 2: the FBI as well as the Dallas Police that are
Speaker 2: working together. They're going through some neighborhoods talking to some
Speaker 2: people and trying to see if they can get a
Speaker 2: little bit more information on how this can happen, because
Speaker 2: obviously what we want is it to be some drunk
Speaker 2: guy in the backyard that discharges a firearm and it
Speaker 2: happens to hit an aircraft, versus somebody that would think
Speaker 2: about doing something like that. So I still suspect it's
Speaker 2: going to be the latter, not the former. But you know,
Speaker 2: we're gonna have to wait and see where the investigation goes,
Speaker 2: because you know, as you know, they can look at
Speaker 2: how far it penetrated, they can look at the type
Speaker 2: of bullet, and they can get an idea at the
Speaker 2: speed at which it struck the aircraft, which can give
Speaker 2: them an idea of the distance, and they can they
Speaker 2: can reverse engineer it and back it up to try
Speaker 2: to answer a lot of questions that right now that
Speaker 2: we do not have, but hopefully in the next few
Speaker 2: weeks that we will, because any sort of attack on
Speaker 2: commercial aviation is a game changer for every airport in
Speaker 2: the country. So that's one of the reasons when this
Speaker 2: kind of thing happens, gets a lot of people's attention.
Speaker 1: Real quick, and that is a great thing. That's just
Speaker 1: frightening to me. Hell, I grew up in Dell High
Speaker 1: you know, I had friends who lived in Palisades. You
Speaker 1: could almost touch an airplane getting ready to land over
Speaker 1: at CBG from their neighborhood. So I have an appreciation
Speaker 1: of how blank and dangerous this is. It's bad enough
Speaker 1: that people pointing lasers at planes all the times, but
Speaker 1: you know, actually shooting at them. That's his next level stuff,
Speaker 1: all right, flag canceled. Joe Drecker mentioned Richard gear in
Speaker 1: connections with this next story earlier in the program. I'm
Speaker 1: not quite sure where he was coming from, but the
Speaker 1: story involves hamsters.
Speaker 2: I still don't know where he's coming from. But that's okay,
Speaker 2: that's Jo. But this one he's given me a hard
Speaker 2: time this morning, and gave him a hard time. The
Speaker 2: plane lands in Portugal and they open up the cargo
Speaker 2: man to you know, take off the bags and cargo.
Speaker 2: And there was a container that had a high undred
Speaker 2: and thirty hamsters in it that we're going to a
Speaker 2: pet store. It came open, so they popped that cargo thing,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, you've got hamsters everywhere, jumping
Speaker 2: out on the ground, taking off runt around the inside
Speaker 2: of the aircraft, and you know, cue the Mission Impossible music.
Speaker 2: Now you've got to collect them because when this kind
Speaker 2: of thing happens, and it happens from time to time,
Speaker 2: you have to make sure you collect every single one
Speaker 2: of those little guys because if you have any that
Speaker 2: are unaccounted for, you need to know where they're at
Speaker 2: because they'd like to chew through little things like wires
Speaker 2: and wires keep airplanes in the sky. So this aircraft
Speaker 2: sat in Portugal for four days as they were searching
Speaker 2: for one hundred and thirty hamsters. Now they got most
Speaker 2: of them pretty quick, but there were eighteen or nineteen
Speaker 2: stragglers that they had to go after and by the
Speaker 2: time they do collect them brandon. They've got to also
Speaker 2: do just kind of a maintenance sweep of the aircraft
Speaker 2: knows to tail, ye, just to make sure that there's
Speaker 2: not any components that might have been accessed that maybe
Speaker 2: compromise by one of these hamsters. So it's a funny story.
Speaker 2: Nobody got hurt. I mean funny. We were over there
Speaker 2: waiting to catch the flight that was canceled for the handers,
Speaker 2: but it was it was an inconvenience, yes, but nobody
Speaker 2: got injured or anything, and it wasn't like they were
Speaker 2: loose in the passenger compartment. That would have been a
Speaker 2: lot more fun if you had one hundred and thirty
Speaker 2: of them running through there during the flight. But yeah,
Speaker 2: we've had situations that in Atlanta where we'd have planes
Speaker 2: land that there was a bunch of white mice that
Speaker 2: were going different places. In the box was cardboard that
Speaker 2: got wet and they all came out and you had
Speaker 2: white mice going everywhere when the door was opened to
Speaker 2: undo the cargo. So it happens, and you know, they
Speaker 2: took their time trying to find all these answers.
Speaker 1: Mister comedian that he just said, wait for it's the
Speaker 1: next Samuel L. Jackson movie. You'll be coming out. We'll
Speaker 1: be snakes this time. Aniehow as we always end hub
Speaker 1: delays Jay Rayel of how's it looking out there to
Speaker 1: fly to that?
Speaker 2: Well, we've had the icing delays this morning. I know
Speaker 2: we're at the end of November. I still want to
Speaker 2: talk about that. But Chicago, New York, Boston and San
Speaker 2: Francisco getting hammered big time, some of these weather delays
Speaker 2: in one to two hours. And if anything, because we
Speaker 2: do like to look at the positive, it's this Thursday,
Speaker 2: not next Thursday. So let's hope we get all the
Speaker 2: bad weather out of the way now so the next
Speaker 2: week we can enjoy some commerce. Guys.
Speaker 1: Amen, they say there's gonna be like eighty million people
Speaker 1: traveling for Thanksgiving. Let's pray what we're.
Speaker 2: Going to be interesting? Yeah, pray for schoo because you
Speaker 2: know it's you'll be working that not working that day.
Speaker 2: I won't be working that day. So yeah, if you
Speaker 2: don't pick another day, we'll just have to skip next week.
Speaker 2: And gives me a chance to wish you an early
Speaker 2: happy Thanksgiving now, my friend, a lot to be thankful for.
Speaker 1: Amen to that, brother, and a happy Thanksgiving to you.
Speaker 1: And you are of course better half. God bless you.
Speaker 2: Jay.
Speaker 1: I always enjoy this segment. I'll look forward to doing
Speaker 1: it again two weeks from today. Take care and have
Speaker 1: safe holidays, my friend. It's eight fifty six at fifty
Speaker 1: five car see the talk station Tech Friday tomorrow with
Speaker 1: Day Have Hatter Every Friday at six thirty Donovan and
Speaker 1: Americans for Prosperity on the HIGOT Senate Leader and Speaker
Speaker 1: This morning, Bob Wetter get in touch with a wish
Speaker 1: tree helps someone out in need this Christmas season. Bob
Speaker 1: makes that easy for you to do the details at
Speaker 1: fifty five krs dot com, along with Dave Harsanyi's book,
Speaker 1: The Rise of Blue Anon. Check out the podcast and
Speaker 1: get a copy of the book fifty five krs dot com.
Speaker 1: God bless you Jay Star Joe Strecker for producing the
Speaker 1: program and cracking me up multiple times today. I sure
Speaker 1: appreciate you doing that and I'll look forward to seeing
Speaker 1: you tomorrow. Folks, have a great day and stick around
Speaker 1: for Glenn back.
Speaker 2: Look what it happened.
Speaker 1: This is the greatest political comment comeback of all time.
Speaker 1: This has ever been two, three, four times today fifty
Speaker 1: five KRSD Talk station. This repart