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Now here is 28 00:01:43.519 --> 00:01:57.840 your host, Soriah. 29 00:01:57.920 --> 00:02:00.200 Welcome to this edition of Where Did the Road Go Go? 30 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:05.079 And tonight I have joining me aj from the Parasortium podcast, 31 00:02:05.239 --> 00:02:08.719 which is primarily on substack right well. 32 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:15.120 It's substack, YouTube, Spotify, and like nine other platforms, so 33 00:02:15.479 --> 00:02:16.800 it's pretty preferse. 34 00:02:17.280 --> 00:02:20.759 Okay. I'm only familiar with it from some substack. 35 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:25.400 I just came on to substack by the request of 36 00:02:25.479 --> 00:02:29.360 some of the people because they don't like Patreon and yeah, 37 00:02:29.439 --> 00:02:31.360 and it's an easier platform to deal with. 38 00:02:31.560 --> 00:02:34.240 I do like substack. I have no real complaints about 39 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:36.759 it though, and it seems like a better community overall, 40 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:38.719 honestly than a lot of other social media. 41 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:43.680 It is they have less of the problematic sorts. 42 00:02:43.840 --> 00:02:46.400 Now you've how long have you been doing Parasortium? 43 00:02:46.919 --> 00:02:51.319 This is our fifth season, so five years, okay. Prior 44 00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:55.199 prior to that, we were we were working in preservation 45 00:02:55.879 --> 00:02:59.759 of artifacts and and that sort of thing. So so 46 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:03.840 we built up and then someone said do a podcast. Okay, 47 00:03:03.960 --> 00:03:06.680 and here we are five years later and it's become 48 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:10.560 our main thing. And what kind of artifacts, Well, it's 49 00:03:10.560 --> 00:03:16.240 a broad thing. We do local artifacts and like when 50 00:03:16.280 --> 00:03:20.680 people are teared down schools and whatnot, they'll send us 51 00:03:20.680 --> 00:03:24.840 a picture. We'll preserve a picture of something that they 52 00:03:24.960 --> 00:03:29.479 found that has historical significance, and then if they do 53 00:03:29.560 --> 00:03:31.840 it right, we can create a three D model of 54 00:03:31.919 --> 00:03:34.319 it and have that in the museum somewhere. 55 00:03:34.599 --> 00:03:36.000 Why not just get the artifacts. 56 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:39.800 Sometimes the artifacts are broken and so I end up 57 00:03:39.840 --> 00:03:42.479 with the pieces and then I stitch it back together 58 00:03:42.800 --> 00:03:47.759 and use my artistic skills to infer the damage pieces 59 00:03:47.759 --> 00:03:52.280 that are missing. And so it's a lot of tedious work, sure, 60 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:57.360 and we've done a few items of that nature now 61 00:03:57.560 --> 00:04:02.639 less so because we're more into creating content for YouTube 62 00:04:02.719 --> 00:04:06.879 and substack. We're actually we're working on a couple of 63 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:10.879 TV shows to bring to market in the next couple 64 00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:13.719 of years. Hopefully that that works out. 65 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:17.800 TV is always a sketchy market, it seems it is. 66 00:04:18.480 --> 00:04:21.959 They're very fickle. Yeah, they come in, they want you 67 00:04:22.040 --> 00:04:25.600 to change everything. That's why one of the projects. If 68 00:04:25.639 --> 00:04:29.639 I can, I'm going to do like a Kickstarter and 69 00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:32.120 see if I can't fund it myself. There you go, 70 00:04:32.279 --> 00:04:35.040 because it's it. I'm going to have to hire at 71 00:04:35.160 --> 00:04:38.639 least one or two other people to do it with me, 72 00:04:38.959 --> 00:04:42.959 and that's a significant amount of money considering it's an animation. 73 00:04:43.279 --> 00:04:43.720 Oh and. 74 00:04:45.240 --> 00:04:47.439 And right now I'm doing all of the animation and 75 00:04:47.519 --> 00:04:50.600 learning animation while i'm doing it, so so it's. 76 00:04:50.439 --> 00:04:53.560 Fun at least you enjoy it. 77 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:56.879 Yeah, I've always been artistic, so you've and. 78 00:04:56.839 --> 00:04:59.480 You've had paranormal experiences your whole. 79 00:04:59.279 --> 00:05:01.560 Life, Yes, right from when I was a baby. 80 00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:03.199 What were the early ones? 81 00:05:03.480 --> 00:05:07.040 When I was six months old and just starting to 82 00:05:07.800 --> 00:05:12.680 babble and say names, I started talking to someone in 83 00:05:12.759 --> 00:05:16.519 my crib and my parents asked me if it was 84 00:05:16.560 --> 00:05:20.120 my grandmother that was living with us, and I shook 85 00:05:20.199 --> 00:05:24.800 my head no, And they were looking through albums and 86 00:05:24.839 --> 00:05:29.879 I pointed to my grandmother that had died ten years 87 00:05:29.959 --> 00:05:32.959 before me and said Nanny Alice. And I shouldn't have 88 00:05:32.959 --> 00:05:36.800 been speaking that well at that time, but I said that, 89 00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:38.680 and it kind of freaked them out. 90 00:05:38.839 --> 00:05:41.680 I'm also surprised you remember that young I. 91 00:05:41.639 --> 00:05:44.160 Don't remember it, but I was told the story. Oh 92 00:05:44.199 --> 00:05:50.480 okay a thousand times afterwards because my house was severely haunted. 93 00:05:51.439 --> 00:05:55.639 We had a former owner who was a rather belligerent 94 00:05:55.759 --> 00:06:00.079 person who liked to choke people. Oh and people that 95 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:04.439 weren't used to the house. If they stayed in my bedroom, 96 00:06:04.480 --> 00:06:08.079 which was the old garage where he worked, they would 97 00:06:08.079 --> 00:06:10.000 wake up in the middle of night feeling like they're 98 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:14.480 being choked and and then run out. So I was 99 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:16.800 the only one that could stay in there. But he 100 00:06:16.879 --> 00:06:18.759 tried to choke me once and I told him to 101 00:06:19.279 --> 00:06:21.720 go away, and he never bought bothered me again. 102 00:06:21.800 --> 00:06:23.439 Yeah, it's remarkable how that works. 103 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:27.279 Yeah, when you're when you're dealing with ghosts, they're like 104 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:30.519 people if you if you give them a boundary, they'll 105 00:06:30.560 --> 00:06:34.199 stick to it, particularly if you're forceful, and then with 106 00:06:34.240 --> 00:06:36.519 your intentions towards maintaining that. 107 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:39.879 Yeah. So, so apparently he liked you more than anyone else. 108 00:06:40.360 --> 00:06:43.759 I guess. I guess I didn't like his piano playing. 109 00:06:43.920 --> 00:06:46.000 I still don't like piano because of it. 110 00:06:46.040 --> 00:06:49.560 So would it just be like random piano notes or no. 111 00:06:50.439 --> 00:06:55.240 My grandmother had a like an old organ, and it 112 00:06:55.319 --> 00:06:58.639 was an electric organ. So it would play unplugged. Oh, 113 00:06:58.800 --> 00:07:03.920 and he he would play old funeral churches. So it 114 00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:07.000 was it was very creepy. And as a kid, I 115 00:07:07.040 --> 00:07:09.480 hated him. I didn't I didn't like anything to do 116 00:07:09.519 --> 00:07:13.240 with him. But I had my grandmother's spirit protecting me 117 00:07:13.319 --> 00:07:16.360 the whole time. I would feel her presence in the 118 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:20.279 room because I would smell magnolia. These are memories I 119 00:07:20.279 --> 00:07:25.040 haven't talked about in a minute, But it kind of 120 00:07:25.120 --> 00:07:26.240 built from there. 121 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:28.560 Why why do you assume it was the former owner? 122 00:07:29.360 --> 00:07:34.360 Because we had direct evidence of the man and people 123 00:07:34.439 --> 00:07:38.720 that lived in the area remembered him, and they no 124 00:07:38.759 --> 00:07:41.040 one liked him. He was he was one of those 125 00:07:41.079 --> 00:07:43.959 guys if you went on on his property, come out 126 00:07:43.959 --> 00:07:45.839 with a shotgun and threaten you. 127 00:07:45.959 --> 00:07:46.639 Oh beautiful. 128 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:50.399 Yeah. But it was also a wife beater, and so 129 00:07:50.399 --> 00:07:53.639 so his wife left him and he became just a 130 00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:57.279 bitter old man. And at that point the house was 131 00:07:57.360 --> 00:08:00.160 only a quarter of the size that it was when 132 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:03.000 when I was in it, because it was a cabin 133 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:06.800 and they built they built additions onto the cabin and 134 00:08:06.839 --> 00:08:10.399 made it like it was like a four bedroom house 135 00:08:10.560 --> 00:08:11.240 out of it. 136 00:08:11.240 --> 00:08:13.480 It was an old place on top of that, Yeah. 137 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:16.199 Well it was. It'd been there since the eighteen hundreds. 138 00:08:16.279 --> 00:08:19.879 Yeah, okay, you're out of We never talked about it. 139 00:08:19.920 --> 00:08:20.759 You're out of Canada. 140 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:26.040 Yes, yes. At that point, my hometown was Halifax, Nova Scotia. 141 00:08:26.079 --> 00:08:30.360 It was a Kearney Lake area which became in the 142 00:08:30.639 --> 00:08:34.000 in the early eighties part of the city, but prior 143 00:08:34.039 --> 00:08:35.399 to that it was part of the county. 144 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:39.039 Gotcha. Okay, So that was that was your earliest stuff. 145 00:08:39.159 --> 00:08:43.639 That was the earliest stuff. But we started having UFOs 146 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:48.440 following us and that I remember being four years old 147 00:08:48.600 --> 00:08:52.279 and seeing UFOs every day. It was day or night, 148 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:55.600 it didn't matter. In the daytime, it would be a 149 00:08:55.639 --> 00:09:02.159 silver oblong object, kind of like a football shape, and 150 00:09:02.519 --> 00:09:05.200 as soon as I I or anyone noticed it, it 151 00:09:05.240 --> 00:09:08.799 would do like a stagger around and then and then 152 00:09:08.960 --> 00:09:10.159 fly off in a direction. 153 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:12.360 Did it always look the same? 154 00:09:12.440 --> 00:09:15.399 Yeah, okay, and this is this is in in the 155 00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:19.519 early eighties, so it's it's we didn't have drones like 156 00:09:19.639 --> 00:09:24.879 we do now, but even it's more in kind like 157 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:28.240 a tick tack like the tic tac I think. But 158 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:32.120 around that same time, in my bedroom I had blue 159 00:09:32.159 --> 00:09:35.799 and red lights like orb like things flying around me 160 00:09:36.080 --> 00:09:38.919 and the red one touched my belly and burnt me, 161 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:41.679 and I flipped my lid and ran to my parents. 162 00:09:42.000 --> 00:09:42.720 How were you? 163 00:09:42.840 --> 00:09:43.399 I was four? 164 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:46.279 Oh, okay, And. 165 00:09:46.240 --> 00:09:49.440 They thought that I'd rolled over, And it was in 166 00:09:49.480 --> 00:09:51.840 the summer, so it was hot and I was sweaty, 167 00:09:51.960 --> 00:09:55.240 and they thought I'd rolled over and stuck my belly 168 00:09:55.240 --> 00:09:57.919 against the plug. But it wasn't the case. But I 169 00:09:57.960 --> 00:10:02.080 had like a three prong burn just above my belly, 170 00:10:02.240 --> 00:10:05.279 but similar to the shape of that, but the opposite 171 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:08.639 direction to what it should have been. So, because you know, 172 00:10:08.759 --> 00:10:12.519 the three prong one is usually on the bottom, but 173 00:10:12.600 --> 00:10:14.399 this was reversed like a triangle. 174 00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:16.879 Even so, and I don't think you could lay against 175 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:18.360 that and cause that to happen. 176 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:21.480 It shouldn't. I think it was more of them trying 177 00:10:21.519 --> 00:10:25.080 to explain it to me to calm me down. Yeah, 178 00:10:25.120 --> 00:10:27.960 but they I would talk about it in public and 179 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:30.639 they would say, no, no, don't do that, right because 180 00:10:30.639 --> 00:10:33.879 they didn't want me to get ostracized for being a weirdo. 181 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:40.440 But I here, I am doing this, so lean. 182 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:42.919 You have to. But honestly, you just have to be 183 00:10:42.960 --> 00:10:44.240 yourself and not worry about it. 184 00:10:44.320 --> 00:10:47.159 Yeah, if people don't like it. Then they're not people 185 00:10:47.200 --> 00:10:48.039 that you weren't around. 186 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:49.080 Yeah, exactly. 187 00:10:49.240 --> 00:10:54.879 But the UFOs after that, they didn't come into the bedroom, 188 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:58.519 like the entities didn't come into the bedroom. Bedroom. But 189 00:10:59.080 --> 00:11:01.600 a couple of years later, I was around six years 190 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:05.120 old and I got lost in the woods, and it 191 00:11:05.159 --> 00:11:07.639 was like nature itself protected me. 192 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:08.600 At that time. 193 00:11:08.679 --> 00:11:12.879 But I somehow got a two day walk away from 194 00:11:12.919 --> 00:11:15.759 home by adults, and I was like six years old. 195 00:11:15.799 --> 00:11:19.840 I got two days away in a matter of twelve hours. Wow, 196 00:11:19.919 --> 00:11:21.840 So I don't know what happened. 197 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:25.559 Why you got lost? You remember, like why you got lost? 198 00:11:25.679 --> 00:11:31.279 I remember that I was chasing a bunny and then 199 00:11:31.559 --> 00:11:35.159 all of a sudden I didn't recognize my surrounding and 200 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:38.159 I ran for a bit and then I found this 201 00:11:38.240 --> 00:11:41.600 big oak tree and I just sat under it and 202 00:11:41.679 --> 00:11:44.440 stayed there, and it kind of felt like it was 203 00:11:44.559 --> 00:11:47.720 protecting me, and so I felt comfortable enough that I 204 00:11:47.759 --> 00:11:52.000 fell asleep and I woke up to my dad and 205 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:56.360 a tracker finding me, and they woke me up and 206 00:11:56.720 --> 00:11:59.879 they were of course, my dad was very upset. Why 207 00:12:00.039 --> 00:12:00.759 did you run off? 208 00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:04.120 Blah blah blah. 209 00:12:04.159 --> 00:12:07.039 I was grounded for a month after that. You're not 210 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:07.960 leaving this year. 211 00:12:08.559 --> 00:12:09.919 But how did they track you? 212 00:12:10.600 --> 00:12:14.639 The tracker he followed the footsteps. 213 00:12:14.039 --> 00:12:16.360 But you said you didn't go very far, but you 214 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:17.440 were found two days away. 215 00:12:17.600 --> 00:12:20.080 I found I was found two days away, but it 216 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:23.960 was they tracked me by footsteps, and I don't know 217 00:12:24.039 --> 00:12:27.080 how that could be because it was so young. And 218 00:12:27.120 --> 00:12:30.320 they only told me this story a few more times, 219 00:12:30.399 --> 00:12:33.039 like from their point of view, and I told them 220 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:35.879 my point of view. I got two days away in 221 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:40.559 twelve hours, but it was like I said. 222 00:12:40.440 --> 00:12:43.440 Ran right, right, but you don't remember doing that? And 223 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:45.279 did they find you under the oak tree? 224 00:12:45.399 --> 00:12:45.600 Yeah? 225 00:12:45.639 --> 00:12:47.919 So the oak tree itself was like two days away 226 00:12:47.919 --> 00:12:49.080 from where you got into the woods. 227 00:12:49.120 --> 00:12:49.320 Yeah. 228 00:12:49.360 --> 00:12:50.240 Wow, that's crazy. 229 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:52.840 It was missing time easily. 230 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:55.200 Yeah, but it's weird that they were able to track you. 231 00:12:55.600 --> 00:12:59.519 It is it's like there's a physical, physical way that 232 00:12:59.559 --> 00:13:02.240 they were able to find me, because otherwise they wouldn't 233 00:13:02.279 --> 00:13:05.720 have never found me, right, So something protected me, that's 234 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:06.600 all I can say. 235 00:13:06.799 --> 00:13:08.480 Yeah, Yeah, that's that's wild. 236 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:11.600 But it's not the only time in my life I've 237 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:15.480 had lost time. Oh Okay, when I was in my twenties, 238 00:13:15.799 --> 00:13:19.200 I was in the military and I got hurt and 239 00:13:19.519 --> 00:13:23.679 I lost three years of memories, but at that time 240 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:27.879 it was I lost time as well because they couldn't 241 00:13:28.159 --> 00:13:30.120 locate me for three days. 242 00:13:30.360 --> 00:13:30.720 Wow. 243 00:13:30.759 --> 00:13:35.000 So and this is only from reports that were given 244 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:37.759 to me. I don't remember any of that time. 245 00:13:38.399 --> 00:13:40.960 And was it a situation where again you were found 246 00:13:41.080 --> 00:13:42.960 outside of where you should have been able to get to. 247 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:46.879 I think so they were perplexed as how I could 248 00:13:47.600 --> 00:13:51.200 get as far as I did. There's not a lot 249 00:13:51.240 --> 00:13:55.399 that I actually remember of that time because I. 250 00:13:55.320 --> 00:14:00.519 Was injured, how badly injured? I was severely concut. Okay, 251 00:14:00.559 --> 00:14:03.919 so it was it was just very odd. It was 252 00:14:04.000 --> 00:14:08.720 like I went five hundred kilo plumb. I'm not sure 253 00:14:08.799 --> 00:14:11.559 what that would be in miles. It was five hundred 254 00:14:11.639 --> 00:14:14.120 kilometers away from where I should have been. 255 00:14:14.399 --> 00:14:16.200 Let's see, I don't know what that breaks down into 256 00:14:16.279 --> 00:14:17.080 in miles either. 257 00:14:17.279 --> 00:14:19.600 It's about two hundred and fifty roughly. 258 00:14:19.679 --> 00:14:21.559 Okay, that's a good distance. 259 00:14:21.240 --> 00:14:25.039 It is, and average you can do about thirty to 260 00:14:25.120 --> 00:14:26.240 sixty miles in a day. 261 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:29.480 Three hundred and ten point seven miles there you go. Yeah, 262 00:14:29.519 --> 00:14:31.840 that's that's that's a lot. That's a lot, especially with 263 00:14:31.919 --> 00:14:32.559 a concussion. 264 00:14:32.679 --> 00:14:35.799 Yeah, but I have a strong will to live when 265 00:14:35.799 --> 00:14:38.879 I was fourteen, We go go back a bit. Yeah, 266 00:14:38.919 --> 00:14:42.600 when I was four fourteen, I was poisoned by bleach. 267 00:14:42.759 --> 00:14:46.759 Oh my guy prepared donairs on bleach. He killed two 268 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:51.120 people and six others like myself, were affected by it. 269 00:14:51.159 --> 00:14:52.240 What did this guy do? 270 00:14:52.519 --> 00:14:54.440 He prepared donair on bleach. 271 00:14:54.720 --> 00:14:55.440 What's donair? 272 00:14:55.759 --> 00:14:58.960 Donair is like a shwarm up, but that is either 273 00:15:00.200 --> 00:15:03.279 it's meat, meat that's been cooked on a spit and 274 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:09.360 shaved off with tomatoes and a creamy sauce, and it's 275 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:10.320 on a peda. 276 00:15:10.120 --> 00:15:11.759 And he just added bleach into it. 277 00:15:12.039 --> 00:15:15.080 Well, he poured bleach on the board like he was 278 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:17.399 going to clean it and then never cleaned it off. Oh, 279 00:15:17.559 --> 00:15:19.120 and then prepared food on it. 280 00:15:19.159 --> 00:15:20.720 Was that intentional on his part? 281 00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:24.440 I think so, because he ran He ran away after 282 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:27.399 that and no one could find him, and they shut down. 283 00:15:27.600 --> 00:15:31.559 They shut down the place, complicated, confiscated whatever they could. 284 00:15:31.720 --> 00:15:35.200 But wow, Yeah, I led internally for a month and 285 00:15:35.320 --> 00:15:38.240 passed away three times. Oh man, I say three times. 286 00:15:38.279 --> 00:15:41.360 It was more more more than that, but that I 287 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:42.000 can remember. 288 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:44.440 Did you did you have any in your death. 289 00:15:44.240 --> 00:15:48.519 Experiences or yeah? Yeah, I the last one. I was 290 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:54.519 gone for fourteen minutes and I had no no brain function, 291 00:15:54.840 --> 00:15:57.840 and they they were calling time and death and I 292 00:15:57.840 --> 00:15:58.720 sat up on them. 293 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:04.159 What did you experience in that time? 294 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:07.799 I know that I was on a dirt road, kind 295 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:10.480 of like a desert dirt road, and I was walking 296 00:16:10.639 --> 00:16:13.360 either I don't know if it was a sunrise or sunset, 297 00:16:13.399 --> 00:16:15.440 but it was the sun was low in the sky 298 00:16:15.639 --> 00:16:18.679 and I was walking towards it, and I heard a 299 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:22.360 voice say, you can come here and have peace for yourself, 300 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:25.200 or go back and have peace for your family. And 301 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:28.240 so I turned around and came back. But there's some 302 00:16:28.399 --> 00:16:32.320 imagery to do with that. Something guided me back, and 303 00:16:32.360 --> 00:16:35.360 it was it was a dragon, but it was not 304 00:16:35.519 --> 00:16:40.639 your usual dragon. My family Cress is a sea dragon. 305 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:45.399 It's a royal sea dragon with twin lions, and that 306 00:16:45.960 --> 00:16:50.279 basically symbolizes that you're part of royalty. This is the 307 00:16:50.279 --> 00:16:54.159 British Royalty anyway. So I saw that and they guided 308 00:16:54.279 --> 00:16:56.840 me back to myself, and then I sat up and 309 00:16:56.919 --> 00:16:58.360 freaked out everyone. 310 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:02.639 Obviously he recovered from the bleach poisoning I did. 311 00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:06.680 It still kind of affects me. My My stomach lining 312 00:17:06.799 --> 00:17:09.680 is weak because of it, yeah, and prone to tearing. 313 00:17:09.920 --> 00:17:12.359 So I have to be careful what I eat and 314 00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:13.240 how much I eat. 315 00:17:13.559 --> 00:17:16.759 Did you know that there's actually like a whole drinking 316 00:17:16.880 --> 00:17:21.359 bleach movement. Yeah, it's they believe that bleach will clean 317 00:17:21.480 --> 00:17:23.720 you out, which, yes, it will. 318 00:17:24.000 --> 00:17:28.000 Definitely clean you out. It'll burn your guts it and you'll. 319 00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:31.640 Bleed behind the Bastards did a whole like two part 320 00:17:31.759 --> 00:17:34.559 series or something on it. I can't remember if if 321 00:17:34.599 --> 00:17:37.519 they consider themselves a church or what, but they're very 322 00:17:37.559 --> 00:17:40.839 pro drinking bleach and they think it's the solution everything. 323 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:44.279 And uh when COVID hit and Trump said saying about, 324 00:17:44.279 --> 00:17:46.079 you know, if we could just get the bleach inside 325 00:17:46.079 --> 00:17:49.559 of you, they took that as him like advocating what 326 00:17:49.599 --> 00:17:50.119 they were doing. 327 00:17:50.160 --> 00:17:50.440 Wow. 328 00:17:50.559 --> 00:17:52.720 Yeah, so it's. 329 00:17:52.559 --> 00:17:55.200 Scary and people call me weird. 330 00:17:57.279 --> 00:17:59.440 Yeah, you didn't do it intentionally, no. 331 00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:03.279 Oh man. But it's when when people do that sort 332 00:18:03.279 --> 00:18:07.319 of thing, it's like the whole snake wrangling right in church. 333 00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:09.559 I would much rather play with a snake. 334 00:18:09.519 --> 00:18:12.440 Yeah yeah, but the snake will still bite you. 335 00:18:12.799 --> 00:18:16.200 Yeah. Yeah. Well, so it's the Genesis two Church of 336 00:18:16.279 --> 00:18:21.680 Health and Healing. They promote Miracle Mineral solution, a toxic 337 00:18:21.799 --> 00:18:25.759 liquid that is essentially industrial bleach. As a fake miracle 338 00:18:25.839 --> 00:18:29.359 cure for autism, cancer, COVID and nearly all disease. 339 00:18:29.519 --> 00:18:32.960 Wow, and how many of their members of the past, because. 340 00:18:32.880 --> 00:18:35.200 Oh, I'm sure a lot. It was some terrifying stuff 341 00:18:35.200 --> 00:18:37.599 they were reading on behind the bastards where they like 342 00:18:37.640 --> 00:18:40.920 people were like, oh, my kid is pooping out all 343 00:18:40.960 --> 00:18:44.720 this this weird white stuff, and like they're going, yeah, 344 00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:49.119 that's his intestines, you know, that's that's wow. Yeah, it is. 345 00:18:49.240 --> 00:18:50.519 It's nuts. 346 00:18:50.559 --> 00:18:53.319 It boggles the mind that people people will go along 347 00:18:53.359 --> 00:18:57.240 with that. But a lot of cults they poison themselves. Yeah, 348 00:18:57.960 --> 00:19:01.720 the death cults and that, Yeah, that is that doesn't 349 00:19:01.759 --> 00:19:04.519 get anything weird for you on your on your show. 350 00:19:06.200 --> 00:19:08.200 But yeah, like I didn't know that was a thing. 351 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:11.759 And I was absolutely shocked that anyone can think drinking 352 00:19:11.839 --> 00:19:13.920 industrial bleach is somehow a cure. 353 00:19:14.359 --> 00:19:19.160 It's it's odd. I've heard of people eating uh pods 354 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:21.039 the time, laundry pods. 355 00:19:21.160 --> 00:19:24.400 That was that was a stupid challenge that people put out. 356 00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:27.759 But but the thing is that this is how many 357 00:19:27.839 --> 00:19:30.839 people can lead off the edge of the cliff and 358 00:19:30.880 --> 00:19:34.680 not go over myself. That's usually the case that the 359 00:19:34.720 --> 00:19:37.480 person person that eggs it on is not the person 360 00:19:37.519 --> 00:19:38.400 that's going to do it. 361 00:19:38.839 --> 00:19:42.039 The thing too about like a church of drinking bleach. 362 00:19:42.079 --> 00:19:45.279 It's like you're going to kill all your your members eventually. 363 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:48.240 Yeah, eventually you're gonna be the last one alive. 364 00:19:48.440 --> 00:19:51.119 I mean, did you ingest a lot when you when 365 00:19:51.279 --> 00:19:52.400 you were you know, exposed? 366 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:56.400 It was it was maybe a tea spoon, but it 367 00:19:56.440 --> 00:19:59.039 was it was enough that a burnt burnt holes in 368 00:19:59.079 --> 00:20:03.839 my stomach lining and I led internally. On top of it, 369 00:20:03.960 --> 00:20:08.279 the meat that he fed us was also ransom. Oh awesome, 370 00:20:08.519 --> 00:20:12.680 And so I had seminole poisoning and bleach poisoning at 371 00:20:12.680 --> 00:20:16.000 the same time. So I was quarantined. And actually the 372 00:20:16.039 --> 00:20:21.160 only thing I remember is wandering around the hospital room 373 00:20:21.279 --> 00:20:24.319 saying I'm not going to die. And then my dad 374 00:20:24.359 --> 00:20:28.119 snapped me out of my psychosis at that point and said, 375 00:20:28.279 --> 00:20:32.720 stop doing that. You're making me feel Isn't that good? 376 00:20:33.319 --> 00:20:34.279 You're freaking me out. 377 00:20:34.920 --> 00:20:36.799 At least you weren't saying I am going to die. 378 00:20:36.839 --> 00:20:38.039 That would be a lot more freaky. 379 00:20:38.160 --> 00:20:41.960 That would be a lot more freaky. But the last 380 00:20:42.039 --> 00:20:45.359 time I passed, he had gone home to get changed 381 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:47.759 in that and then when he came back, all the 382 00:20:47.799 --> 00:20:50.640 doctors were freaking out and he was like, what's going on? 383 00:20:51.119 --> 00:20:55.279 Your son's okay, but he had he had passed and 384 00:20:55.960 --> 00:20:57.799 blah blah blah, and they told him all of this. 385 00:20:58.079 --> 00:21:01.279 And two weeks later I was least from the hospital, 386 00:21:01.920 --> 00:21:04.680 well on the way to mending. But I think me 387 00:21:04.839 --> 00:21:09.079 choosing to live turned the tide for me. My body 388 00:21:09.359 --> 00:21:13.160 just started healing itself good. But yeah, it was, it was. 389 00:21:13.400 --> 00:21:14.519 It was an intense time. 390 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:17.400 Yeah. I can't even imagine having to go through that 391 00:21:17.599 --> 00:21:18.279 was the guy caught. 392 00:21:18.400 --> 00:21:24.240 No, no, really, no, he disappeared to a country without extradition. 393 00:21:24.640 --> 00:21:24.960 He did. 394 00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:28.000 That's as far as they got. And he was he 395 00:21:28.079 --> 00:21:31.480 was in his sixties. Yeah, so I don't think he 396 00:21:31.599 --> 00:21:32.519 lasted that long. 397 00:21:32.599 --> 00:21:33.960 Now, those are the ones who lived forever. 398 00:21:34.119 --> 00:21:42.480 Oh yeah, true, true. But we go forward, went with 399 00:21:42.599 --> 00:21:45.400 weird experiences around. 400 00:21:46.319 --> 00:21:46.759 I was. 401 00:21:47.119 --> 00:21:50.079