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<v Speaker 1>Everyone has a fear, a fear of falling from heights,

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<v Speaker 1>the chilling fear of spiders, creepy clowns, or the unknown dark,

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<v Speaker 1>and even elevators. Man made machines like these are often

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<v Speaker 1>subjects of our imagination's worst nightmare, and in twenty fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>one woman in China was thrown into that nightmare where

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<v Speaker 1>she was trapped in an elevator and the only thing

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<v Speaker 1>is no one was coming to save her, and she

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<v Speaker 1>was left alone, waiting and dying.

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<v Speaker 2>Warning.

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<v Speaker 1>The following podcast contains graphic content and material intended more

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<v Speaker 1>mature audience. Listener discretion is advised.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, how's it going. What the I'm Nicola?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm Ben and you're listening to Wicked.

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<v Speaker 2>And Grim the true crime podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you forget our intro?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? Yeah, I kind of was like what am I

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to do? We always were changing it up periodically,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I get lost and I'm like you're looking

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<v Speaker 2>at me, and I'm like I don't what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>There was like thirty seconds of dead air there. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna edit that dead air out, but you're just like blank.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be like are they there? Are they there?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? And then they won't listen to and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was distracted because Ripley was being really fucking cute.

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<v Speaker 1>Ripley's just Ripley. She's always cute as shit's so cute.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, before this, we were having some tech technical malfunctions

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<v Speaker 2>you call it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we need we need new XLR cables.

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<v Speaker 2>These ones are Yeah, we're going to be buying those

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<v Speaker 2>this week. And then Ben was like, k test your levels.

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<v Speaker 2>I was all grumpy and so I was swearing away.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I swear, Ripley comes to like comfort me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's she's like a therapy doug that way. She

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<v Speaker 1>can sense if you're like upset totally.

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<v Speaker 2>Because sometimes if I'm like working at home alone and

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<v Speaker 2>I like something pisses me off or whatever, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she always comes and just puts her head on my

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<v Speaker 2>leg and I'm like, you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Adorable unless you're getting mad at a TV show or

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<v Speaker 1>a movie. And then she comes over to me because

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<v Speaker 1>she's just afraid of what you're doing. She's like, why

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<v Speaker 1>is she raging at a magic box with static?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I show my emotions too much.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to control those, Yeah you do. It's all

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<v Speaker 1>good though, So we have some more patrons to thank

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<v Speaker 1>this episode. We always have patrons.

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<v Speaker 2>To thank you because they're freaking amazing. They're wicked is

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<v Speaker 2>what they are, wickedly awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, so signed up. This week we have Karen Peacock,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Karen love that name actually, Clara Kay, Josie Hefritt,

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<v Speaker 1>I really hope I said your last name right, Josie Hayley,

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<v Speaker 1>and Chelsea Polly right on. Some awesome people who joined

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<v Speaker 1>us over on Patreon this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, those are awesome, great names, great people.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for signing up. And those people just got

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<v Speaker 1>an extra episode dropped just the other day. On April thirtieth, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>the last day of every month, we dropped an exclusive

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<v Speaker 1>episode over in Patreon just for our all access patrons

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<v Speaker 1>to go over and give it a listen.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and it was wild. I actually it's still heavily

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<v Speaker 2>on my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, yeah, it's if you guys know it. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>Boy and Chimney, It's Joshua Maddox's crazy case crazy And

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<v Speaker 1>actually we gave our patrons a choice between two different

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<v Speaker 1>episodes on which one they wanted. They selected Joshua Maddox. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we took the one that lost that round

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<v Speaker 1>and then we put that one up against today's episode,

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<v Speaker 1>and they voted on which episode they want to hear today,

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<v Speaker 1>and they voted on this one that you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>hear today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so basically they just get a lot of control.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, get a lot of control. Thank you for controlling

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<v Speaker 1>us this week, patrons, you're awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you're helping us make decisions. Let's just put it that.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no kidding. Sometimes it's hard to make the column

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<v Speaker 1>which case we want to cover, So I think we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to throw it over to them a little more

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<v Speaker 1>often on which case we should be doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I have a giant list right now, so I

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<v Speaker 2>might need some help.

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<v Speaker 1>A big old list.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that was on our list for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time was to start a Twitter page.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently it was and apparently it was, well I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I knew it was on our list, and then all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, I just came home one day. We

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<v Speaker 2>have Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh my gosh, I don't even know

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<v Speaker 2>what to use Twitter, But okay, we.

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<v Speaker 1>Got Twitter now. Yeah, we officially have six followers over

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter. So if you want to help our Twitter out,

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<v Speaker 1>and you do the tweeting.

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<v Speaker 2>You do you do the tweeting or give us some tips?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, tell us how to use the app because we've

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<v Speaker 1>never used Twitter before. So yeah, head on over there,

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<v Speaker 1>find us and follow us and talk to us and chill.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm definitely the best on Instagram Facebook.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not bad at but I don't like seem like

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<v Speaker 2>I put as much effort into it anymore as I

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<v Speaker 2>used to. Fair, But yeah, Instagram is the shit. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's good to branch out. It's good to learn new things.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. And speaking of branching out, we actually did

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<v Speaker 1>another blog post too on our website because we got

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<v Speaker 1>to start doing that more often we do, so I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's officially our second blog post on wickedinggrim dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it was about us being in the two percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Rank, right, yeah, okay, get this. We are ranked in

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<v Speaker 1>the top two percent wild of all podcasts globally.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I was actually telling that to someone the other

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<v Speaker 2>day and they're like, like, of the true crime ones

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, no.

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<v Speaker 1>Just all podcasts, yea, which is because.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually remember but I was like, I think it's all

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<v Speaker 2>but that seems too good to be true. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Because of you guys out there tuning in every week,

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<v Speaker 1>we are ranked top two percent of all podcasts across

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<v Speaker 1>the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Nuts, it's nuts it is. It floats my boat, it.

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<v Speaker 1>Floats, your boat, floats my boat. I thought you were

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say it blows my mind, but you went completely

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<v Speaker 1>different directions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm like to change it up once in a while.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fair. That's fair.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm drinking delicious cider cheese sandwich. Just kidding, delicious

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<v Speaker 2>cheese sandwiches, a dry apple cider. It's her mermad actually

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<v Speaker 2>cider company, and it is dope. I'm really enjoying it thoroughly.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't hear a word what you said because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still in delicious cheese sandwiches.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I cannot. I will never ever be able to

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<v Speaker 2>say delicious without thinking delicious cheese.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of that, though, Tom Green, if you guys don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, I also ate the most moldiest piece of cheese

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<v Speaker 2>in history today, smooth, and didn't even notice until I

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<v Speaker 2>went to take a second bite.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us the story. Indulgous.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's just disgusting. Like my stomach actually hurt most

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<v Speaker 2>to day. But I don't know if that was in

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<v Speaker 2>my head or the mold was actually grown in there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm growing in there, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>But basically, I have to take this like it was

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<v Speaker 2>a cheese stick thing. Take it from the fridge, put

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<v Speaker 2>in my lunch, open that cheese, said cheese stick. Take

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<v Speaker 2>a bite. It tastes like absolute shit. But I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe my mouth just tastes funny, Like what the fuck

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<v Speaker 2>eat some crackers? Go to take another bite? Holy fuck,

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<v Speaker 2>mold stick, this mold the whole thing was like green.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't even I was like, okay, well, I'm on

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<v Speaker 2>my way to take photos right now. And now clearly

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not in an observant state whatsoever, so this photo

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<v Speaker 2>shoot might not go so well.

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<v Speaker 1>But she knocked it out of the park.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill I did, but I need to be more observant

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to eating cheese.

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<v Speaker 1>Fair enough, all right, Well, cheese aside, mold a side.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 1>You're ready to get on with this case?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still ready?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, fore warning, this is fucking crazy. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>all I really got to say. It's it's a rather

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<v Speaker 1>short episode. There's not a whole lot of information to

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<v Speaker 1>go on with this one, but it's it's a wild ride.

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<v Speaker 2>So I am very intrigued because it seems it's like

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<v Speaker 2>a case that I can't comprehend. So I do need

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<v Speaker 2>to learn a little bit more about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's got that wow factor. Let's put it

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<v Speaker 1>that way.

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<v Speaker 2>M hmm, like somebody fucked up. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, let's put that way up. That's a really

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<v Speaker 1>good way of putting it. Okay, So here it goes.

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<v Speaker 2>You ready, I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd had to finish taking your sip. Sorry, bad timing. Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>our story takes place in a city called Xian. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I said that right, No ci ci Cian China.

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<v Speaker 1>I literally researched how to say it, like for half

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<v Speaker 1>fucking minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>That's literally every episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's how you say it. Okay, that's so

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<v Speaker 1>x I a Nann and Sheanne has a rich history

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<v Speaker 1>and culture that dives deep into like literally our history,

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<v Speaker 1>like way fucking back. And it's home to incredible tourism

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<v Speaker 1>with of course delicious food, and it's renowned for its

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<v Speaker 1>terra Cotta Army. Now, the terrrat car Cotta Army is

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<v Speaker 1>a collection of terracotta sculptures depicting an army for the

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<v Speaker 1>first Emperor of China. All the sculptured art pieces were

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<v Speaker 1>actually buried with the emperor in twenty ten to sorry

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred ten and two hundred and nine BCE, with

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<v Speaker 1>the purpose of protecting the emperor. And it's in is afterlife.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>There are eight thousand of these life size terracotta fucking statues.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, isn't terra cotta the it's clay. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's like very fragile.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like I've I don't know how I'm the pots

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<v Speaker 2>that I've had, I've broken that was our terracotta, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like those like red and rounds, this terracotta.

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<v Speaker 2>That's really cool though, to like visualize that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So there's eight thousand of these terra cotta soldiers

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<v Speaker 1>life size, and each one has an estimated value of

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<v Speaker 1>four point five million dollars US.

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<v Speaker 2>So can you see them, like are they visible like

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<v Speaker 2>or are they like.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what they have for the tourism aspect

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<v Speaker 1>of it, but you can go on Google and see

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<v Speaker 1>a picture of all of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I was just curious to you visit them, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there's.

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<v Speaker 1>Some in the museum, but I'm pretty sure most of

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<v Speaker 1>them are like stowed away and you can probably visit

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<v Speaker 1>the site where they were excavated.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fair.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But anyways, just want to get into that a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit because it was really cool. But hian is

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<v Speaker 1>five million people and around six point nine million million

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<v Speaker 2>Good lord, I can't imagine living in a city that large.

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<v Speaker 1>It's massive.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't even have one hundred thousand people in our city,

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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes I'm like, why are there so many people everywhere?

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<v Speaker 1>People are fucking annoying, let's put that way. So being

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<v Speaker 1>and fix everything, pay them and be on their way. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a woman who has only been identified by her

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<v Speaker 1>an apartment building surrounded by millions of other people. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Wu was a forty three year old woman who stuck

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<v Speaker 1>assumed her to be a bit of a loaner, but

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<v Speaker 2>So she lived alone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, she lived alone, just kind of chilled by herself

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<v Speaker 1>sort of thing. Now, Wu's family would also tell a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of small similar details, saying that she liked to

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<v Speaker 1>though that history of mental illness wasn't disclosed on exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what that means, but something like that would, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>would be even more difficult to deal with when surrounded

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<v Speaker 1>by millions of people in a bustling city like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, her apartment was undoubtedly her sanctuary.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually just want to touch on that because I've

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<v Speaker 2>this is kind of pretty covid. I guess it might

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<v Speaker 2>be back to this, but you're like shoulder to shoulder,

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<v Speaker 2>which is so many people, but like you're just it's

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<v Speaker 2>like the feeling of just being lonely, Like no one

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<v Speaker 2>says anything, no one even tries to look at you,

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<v Speaker 2>like they avoid eye contact, like someone's living in big cities.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like lonely as heck.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Vancouver is a small city compared to someplace

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<v Speaker 1>it is. Yeah, so yeah, it's you're completely disconnected. You're

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<v Speaker 1>to yourself, and yeah, you're surrounded by people, but you're completely.

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<v Speaker 2>Alone, like at least here. I mean, gosh, every daily

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<v Speaker 2>you go by, like you're probably smiling at a stranger, right,

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<v Speaker 2>there's at least like some sort of contact per se.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's true. Someone holds a door open for you,

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<v Speaker 1>or there's small talk at the cashier register at the

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<v Speaker 1>grocery store, things like that, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Which sometimes can be like so annoying, But then I

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<v Speaker 2>mean comparatively, maybe it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I mean we bitch about it too lots,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, or you run into someone from you know

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<v Speaker 1>high school that you have to have that small talk

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with or whatever, or maybe a family member or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever that you haven't seen in years, and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to get on my way, but I got

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to this person. Oh it's annoying. But I

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<v Speaker 1>mean those that makes us not feel quite so alone,

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<v Speaker 1>whether we realize it or not.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, So, yeah, I know there's always a moment in

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<v Speaker 2>my head is like how can I get out of

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<v Speaker 2>this situation? But then usually I can't, and then it's

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<v Speaker 2>like enjoyable. So I don't know, that's just me being me.

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<v Speaker 1>So what you're saying is, bitch, leave me alone. Well, anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going back to the date. On January thirtieth, twenty sixteen. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Wu found herself leaving her apartment to venture off into

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<v Speaker 1>the busy city. As she reached the elevator, as she

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<v Speaker 1>always did, she pressed her button and she waited. The

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<v Speaker 1>elevator doors closed behind her, but Wu wouldn't make it

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<v Speaker 1>to the floor she wanted to. You see, the elevator

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<v Speaker 1>malfunctioned with Wu inside, and it stopped stuck between the

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<v Speaker 1>ninth and tenth floor, leaving her stranded inside the elevator

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<v Speaker 1>completely alone.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I just hate that.

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<v Speaker 1>And luckily, of course, the maintenance department were quickly notified

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as malfunction was discovered and they came to

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<v Speaker 1>the scene for the repairs. So upon the arrival the

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<v Speaker 1>repair men got there and Wu must I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to say I know how long she was

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<v Speaker 1>in there for. I can't find a report on that,

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<v Speaker 1>but Wu mustn't have been waiting very long. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to assume maybe like somewhere like under an hour. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>the two men got to the scene, but they were

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<v Speaker 1>rather hurried. So it was January thirtieth after all, which

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<v Speaker 1>is you know, and Chinese New Year, and Chinese New Year,

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<v Speaker 1>also called the Lunar New Year, has an annual fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>day festival in China, and Chinese communities around the world

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate this. Their workdays must have been long, these two individuals.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure with jobs that a lot of people book

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<v Speaker 1>vacation off before the holidays, during the holidays, after the

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<v Speaker 1>holidays because of all the celebrations going on, and of

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<v Speaker 1>course businesses shut down, so it's pretty strapped for employees

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<v Speaker 1>to be working. People are rushed, they want to get home,

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<v Speaker 1>whether they're you know, tired of their long day shift

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<v Speaker 1>or they're on their edge for vacation as well. And

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<v Speaker 1>being on the verge of vacation is exactly what was

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<v Speaker 1>happening here.

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<v Speaker 2>So your mind is just solely somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, you're just like, I just want to get home.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to get off the job.

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<v Speaker 2>We've all been there, Oh totally.

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<v Speaker 1>We're watching the clock, you know, it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's four point thirty. I get off at five o'clock.

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<v Speaker 1>That last half hours ticking by because you just just

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<v Speaker 1>want to go, and you end up like darting for

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<v Speaker 1>the door like three minutes early, but your your bag

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<v Speaker 1>is packed like five minutes early, and you're already dumping

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<v Speaker 1>out the remainder of your coffee cup, you know, ten

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<v Speaker 1>minutes early and washing out your cup.

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<v Speaker 2>You're ready to roll, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's kind of the situation here. Their maintenance business

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<v Speaker 1>was closing for the holidays, and that's exactly what was

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<v Speaker 1>going on, and the repair men decided to hold off

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<v Speaker 1>on fixing this elevator until they got back from their vacation.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, so of course we know WU is inside

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<v Speaker 1>and the two men didn't know this. So what they

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<v Speaker 1>did is they shouted into the elevator to see if

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<v Speaker 1>they could hear if anyone was inside. They didn't hear

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<v Speaker 1>any reply.

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<v Speaker 2>Why not?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it like soundproof? Don't know, because that's like another

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<v Speaker 2>thing that I'm just curious, like, wouldn't you be like

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<v Speaker 2>yelling and like, I mean, you think someone would hear you,

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<v Speaker 2>even like someone living in the rest.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's it's hard to say why no one

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<v Speaker 1>heard Wu. It's hard to say if these men actually

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<v Speaker 1>did call out to her, but they claimed they called

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<v Speaker 1>out and tried to see if anyone was in the elevator.

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<v Speaker 2>My brain is so peer I never even went there.

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<v Speaker 2>They could have just been shipped their jobs and not

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<v Speaker 2>even actually checked. And then just later when it's found

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<v Speaker 2>out that shit went down, then they're like, oh, we joked.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so easy to say, not saying that they didn't,

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<v Speaker 2>not saying that they didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>So they the claim is that they shouted to see

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<v Speaker 1>if there was anyone inside, and they did not hear

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<v Speaker 1>a reply. So the two men simply disabled the elevator

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<v Speaker 1>so no one could use it and then left with

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<v Speaker 1>of course Wu still trapped inside and this is one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and ten percent against any sort of workplace protocol

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<v Speaker 1>for this situation. The men, if leaving the elevator like this,

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<v Speaker 1>would have known that they are supposed to manually open

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<v Speaker 1>the elevator to ensure it was empty before leaving it unattended.

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<v Speaker 1>They literally need to make sure they look inside, not

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<v Speaker 1>just be like it was up anyone in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, it's so good, and that was like a rule

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, right, not something that came to be

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<v Speaker 2>after correct. Okay, that's so good because I just feel

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<v Speaker 2>like at this point, I was like, I'm never going

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<v Speaker 2>in another elevator. But no, that that's.

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<v Speaker 1>What they're supposed to do. If they're leaving it unattended

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<v Speaker 1>like that and disabling it or whatever, they need to

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<v Speaker 1>ensure there is no one inside. I mean, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty basic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, But regardless they chose not to do this. These

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<v Speaker 1>two men made a distinctive choice to walk away without

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<v Speaker 1>checking the inside.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, that's cringey.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So they walked away and alone inside, Wu must

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<v Speaker 1>have heard the men cry out for her. If they did,

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<v Speaker 1>she must have heard them, and she must have cried

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<v Speaker 1>out for help. Even banging on the doors to get

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<v Speaker 1>their attention, but somehow it went unanswered. Now, I guarantee

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<v Speaker 1>you she thought they must be coming back. They will

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<v Speaker 1>go off, they'll need to do what they do, get

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<v Speaker 1>tools or whatever, and they'll back any minute. And so

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<v Speaker 1>Wu inevitably waited and waited. Hours passed, and eventually it

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<v Speaker 1>was the next day, and eventually it was the next day. Slowly,

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<v Speaker 1>Wu would have begun suffering from the effects of dehydration

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<v Speaker 1>before she would have realized no one was coming to

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<v Speaker 1>get her. She tried and tried to pry the door open,

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<v Speaker 1>but it wouldn't budge. She would kick it, bash it

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<v Speaker 1>with her fists, anything she could do to try and

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<v Speaker 1>break free, but the door remained closed no matter what

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<v Speaker 1>she did tried, and none of her neighbors in her

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<v Speaker 1>apartment would hear any of the ruck as she made

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<v Speaker 1>or any cries for help.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that is just scut wrenching.

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<v Speaker 1>And this might be due to the fact that this

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<v Speaker 1>elevator was closed, so they were using a different elevator

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<v Speaker 1>in a different location, so people may have been avoiding

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<v Speaker 1>this area.

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<v Speaker 2>But so it must not have been next to like

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<v Speaker 2>any apartment apartments or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm unclear on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, Holy heck, I just like I can't I literally

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<v Speaker 2>can't imagine someone not hearing her. I know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that people probably would have had to at some point

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<v Speaker 2>heard something funny. But then, like, who's going to be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>there's someone stuck in the elevator. You just like think

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<v Speaker 2>it was something else.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, I mean you're in a city of millions

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<v Speaker 1>of people. Yeah, you hear some banging on the walls. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>noisy neighbors again.

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<v Speaker 2>You hear some screening noises all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Some kid out in the streets screaming away. Someone needs

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<v Speaker 1>to shut up their kid. Like, you never know, right,

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<v Speaker 1>someone may have heard and just didn't realize it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh boy.

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<v Speaker 1>So Now, regarding the dehydration, for most people, approximately ten

427
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<v Speaker 1>days is the average time one can last before succumbing

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<v Speaker 1>and dying. In rare instances, the process can take as

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<v Speaker 1>long as several weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>In Wu's case, she would eventually pass away while trapped

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<v Speaker 1>inside the elevator, but not from dehydration. It would be

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<v Speaker 1>from starvation. Now, people can expect to last a lot

434
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<v Speaker 1>longer before they starve, as long as forty three to

435
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<v Speaker 1>seventy days before we pass away from starvation, which is incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize it was that long. Like I was

437
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<v Speaker 2>pretty much like starving because I didn't eat for like

438
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<v Speaker 2>five hours today. So that really makes me feel like, Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I believe it was average body mass. You can

440
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<v Speaker 1>your body can consume up to eighteen percent of your

441
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<v Speaker 1>body mask before you start to fail and die from it.

442
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<v Speaker 1>And I believe if you're above that body mass, the

443
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<v Speaker 1>average it's around twenty percent.

444
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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Now how long Wu actually lasted is unknown, but

446
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<v Speaker 1>the repair men returned to open the elevator door a

447
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<v Speaker 1>month later. I've read different reports anywhere between twenty seven

448
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<v Speaker 1>days to thirty days later before they opened the door.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

450
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<v Speaker 1>When they did open the door, they found Wu lying

451
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<v Speaker 1>on the elevator floor, lifeless. It was also noted that

452
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<v Speaker 1>one of her hands were placed up against the elevator

453
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<v Speaker 1>door above where she laid were multiple marks, dents, and

454
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<v Speaker 1>scratches in the door where she tried to free herself,

455
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<v Speaker 1>and her bare hands were beaten and mangled from trying

456
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<v Speaker 1>to escape.

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<v Speaker 2>That's too much lot, that is like whoa, my heart, Oh,

458
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<v Speaker 2>I just can't even imagine, especially if this poor woman

459
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<v Speaker 2>had like mental health issues and stuff. I mean, anyone

460
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<v Speaker 2>would have mental health issues in that kind of situation.

461
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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, oh that is just that has I don't know.

462
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's pretty brutal ways to die, but that's.

463
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<v Speaker 1>Bad, that's heartbreaking, and this is why it's This case

464
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<v Speaker 1>is known as the loneliest death, just isolated screaming, no

465
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<v Speaker 1>one can hear you. But just like you had already mentioned,

466
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<v Speaker 1>you're in a city surrounded by millions of people, but

467
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<v Speaker 1>you are nothing but alone. And that's exactly what she was.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I honestly think in your mind you would just

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<v Speaker 2>be like, how on earth could anyone how I'm not like,

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't even think you accept it. You wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>accept that you were dying in there. There's no way,

472
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<v Speaker 2>there's no way. I'd be like, no, someone's coming, Like

473
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<v Speaker 2>someone's coming, someone's coming, and they just.

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<v Speaker 1>Never come until a month later. I'm a month oh yeah,

475
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<v Speaker 1>after their celebration.

476
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was like, how long were they celebrating for?

477
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<v Speaker 2>They'd probably just like ended up getting busy with other

478
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<v Speaker 2>jobs and forgetting well.

479
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it could have been busy from other jobs, could

480
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<v Speaker 1>have been with vacations on top of it, and they

481
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<v Speaker 1>didn't have the time to get back. Like, who knows

482
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<v Speaker 1>what the whole compilation of issues were, but it was

483
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<v Speaker 1>a matter of the holidays mixed with whatever the fuck

484
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<v Speaker 1>else for.

485
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<v Speaker 2>A month went through their brain when they opened that door.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can't imagine. I'd feel so fucking guilty if

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<v Speaker 1>that were me.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Like I wow, I don't even know if

489
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<v Speaker 2>like to just like carry on after you would just

490
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<v Speaker 2>never your day would never ever be the same. I

491
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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. Wu's family had reported her missing to the authorities,

493
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<v Speaker 1>and they had checked up on her apartments but never

494
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<v Speaker 1>saw any sign of her, and her missing was assumed

495
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<v Speaker 1>it was due to her mental illness, and they they

496
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<v Speaker 1>thought she might have run away or she may have

497
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<v Speaker 1>been a recluse somewhere, and they wouldn't They couldn't locate her,

498
00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:08.599
<v Speaker 1>and they were just in hopes that she would eventually

499
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<v Speaker 1>turn up safe. I mean, how do you find a

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<v Speaker 1>missing person in a city of millions?

501
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<v Speaker 2>Right again, I mean, they probably didn't even consider the

502
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<v Speaker 2>elevator that was broken down.

503
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<v Speaker 1>Nope, knocking on their daughter's door. With the broken down elevator,

504
00:25:24.759 --> 00:25:26.759
<v Speaker 1>they would have had to have gone to the elevator

505
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<v Speaker 1>shaft realize that all this one's broken and had to

506
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<v Speaker 1>have gone to the other one to get up to

507
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<v Speaker 1>her apartment to.

508
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<v Speaker 2>Look for Oh wow, yep, yep.

509
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<v Speaker 1>So now, needless to say, like her family was fucking outrage.

510
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<v Speaker 1>That's clear.

511
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<v Speaker 2>I don't blame them.

512
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<v Speaker 1>And they weren't alone. There was public outcry over the

513
00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:51.920
<v Speaker 1>neglect from the maintenance department and how they could have

514
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<v Speaker 1>overlooked someone being trapped in the fucking elevator, especially since

515
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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't the first case of neglect.

516
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<v Speaker 2>Of someone stuck in an elevator, or just neglect.

517
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<v Speaker 1>Just neglect. There was a protest set up outside the

518
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<v Speaker 1>apartment against the administrators of the complex and the maintenance company.

519
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<v Speaker 1>Signs were being held up in protest. People were rallying

520
00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:18.000
<v Speaker 1>and cried out in a plea for you know, why

521
00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:21.440
<v Speaker 1>aren't we being treated like fucking human beings? Why did

522
00:26:21.480 --> 00:26:24.240
<v Speaker 1>she have to die after not being checked on for

523
00:26:25.039 --> 00:26:27.440
<v Speaker 1>a month when she should have been checked on in

524
00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:31.119
<v Speaker 1>the first place. Shouldn't have even been hours, let alone

525
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<v Speaker 1>a month. No, there's one resident who in the protest

526
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<v Speaker 1>said into a news report and I quote, there's now

527
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<v Speaker 1>a shadow across my heart. It's scary, and it gives

528
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<v Speaker 1>me shivers to pass by it when they are referencing

529
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<v Speaker 1>the elevator.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, that just gave me goose bumps, a

531
00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:57.200
<v Speaker 2>shadow across my heart. Yeah wow.

532
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<v Speaker 1>Another resident of the apartment complex reported that the building

533
00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:08.200
<v Speaker 1>management service was poor and routinely ignored residence complaints about

534
00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:14.200
<v Speaker 1>frequent broken elevators and other matters. So it wasn't abnormal

535
00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:18.480
<v Speaker 1>to have broken elevators that just didn't fucking work or

536
00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:21.799
<v Speaker 1>weren't working properly and for them to just ignore it.

537
00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:25.759
<v Speaker 2>And so it's freaking lucky maybe that this had not

538
00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:27.839
<v Speaker 2>already happened to something one.

539
00:27:27.839 --> 00:27:29.839
<v Speaker 1>Hundred percent and it was only a matter of time

540
00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:32.680
<v Speaker 1>of something like this that was going to happen, because

541
00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:36.839
<v Speaker 1>unfortunately in the first case, like I don't even know

542
00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:38.440
<v Speaker 1>where's going with that sentence, but like something was going

543
00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:38.759
<v Speaker 1>to happen.

544
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<v Speaker 2>It's very disturbing.

545
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I don't know, it's it's brutal. I'm surprised

546
00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:47.720
<v Speaker 1>didn't happen sooner, but it did happen, and it was

547
00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:49.240
<v Speaker 1>only a matter of time that was going to happen.

548
00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Now in there's another area in China called chez shen Zen,

549
00:27:58.079 --> 00:28:01.319
<v Speaker 1>there we go. And on May fifteen teenth of twenty thirteen,

550
00:28:02.079 --> 00:28:05.640
<v Speaker 1>a woman was riding an elevator. Another elevator incident. And

551
00:28:05.799 --> 00:28:08.759
<v Speaker 1>this is this is prior to Yes, this is a

552
00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:11.880
<v Speaker 1>few years prior. The woman was riding the elevator and

553
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:15.680
<v Speaker 1>she went to exit the elevator doors and she got

554
00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:20.880
<v Speaker 1>pinched between the elevator doors between her shoulders, and while pinched,

555
00:28:21.559 --> 00:28:25.319
<v Speaker 1>the elevator quickly dropped and plummeted with her head sticking out,

556
00:28:25.640 --> 00:28:28.720
<v Speaker 1>and the elevator effectively turned into a guillotine as she

557
00:28:28.839 --> 00:28:33.480
<v Speaker 1>was decapitated, and her body fell back inside onto the

558
00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:36.200
<v Speaker 1>crowd that was still in the elevator, and they had

559
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<v Speaker 1>to wait for the doors to open up at the

560
00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:41.920
<v Speaker 1>bottom before they could exit, when her lifeless body landed

561
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<v Speaker 1>on the ground. No, yes, and I do not recommend it.

562
00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:53.119
<v Speaker 1>But there is CCTV footage of this on YouTube, who

563
00:28:53.440 --> 00:28:57.839
<v Speaker 1>though it has blurred out, thankfully, I did watch it,

564
00:28:57.920 --> 00:29:00.960
<v Speaker 1>and I wish I didn't, Okay, if.

565
00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:03.319
<v Speaker 2>There has ever been a reason to take them on,

566
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:08.079
<v Speaker 2>the fuck of stairs? You take the stairs? This is unbelievable.

567
00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, speaking of stairs.

568
00:29:10.039 --> 00:29:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh, are they not safe either?

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<v Speaker 1>On July twenty seventh of twenty fifteen, in a mall

570
00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:19.319
<v Speaker 1>in China, at ten oh one am, two mall employees

571
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:22.240
<v Speaker 1>rode an escalator and when they reached the top and

572
00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:25.720
<v Speaker 1>stepped off, they found that the safety plate at the

573
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:30.839
<v Speaker 1>top landing was loose and they almost fell through into

574
00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:35.599
<v Speaker 1>the escalator gears and cogs below. Now, they quickly notified

575
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:38.519
<v Speaker 1>maintenance and they stood waiting at the top for them

576
00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:43.480
<v Speaker 1>to arrive. And then nine minutes later, at ten ten am,

577
00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:46.240
<v Speaker 1>a woman holding her three year old son made their

578
00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:50.240
<v Speaker 1>way to the top of the escalator. There's again CCTV

579
00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:53.440
<v Speaker 1>footage of this. I watched it. It's not as graphic,

580
00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:55.720
<v Speaker 1>but you know what happened, so I don't recommend you

581
00:29:56.200 --> 00:29:59.799
<v Speaker 1>watch it either. But it shows the two workers standing

582
00:29:59.839 --> 00:30:03.799
<v Speaker 1>there who had the incident nine minutes before, motioned towards

583
00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:07.440
<v Speaker 1>that loose plate at the top, almost as if they

584
00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:10.680
<v Speaker 1>were trying to warn the woman how she supposed to do.

585
00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:14.480
<v Speaker 1>At that point, it was too late. She stepped on

586
00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:18.200
<v Speaker 1>it and she fell through. Luckily, she managed to push

587
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:21.640
<v Speaker 1>her three year old son past the opening to safety.

588
00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:28.440
<v Speaker 1>The mall, however, wasn't shut down. The floor was simply

589
00:30:28.519 --> 00:30:32.279
<v Speaker 1>closed off, while public unknowingly continued their shopping while a

590
00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:35.680
<v Speaker 1>four hour rescue ensued to rescue the woman who fell

591
00:30:35.759 --> 00:30:39.720
<v Speaker 1>into the gear system of the escalator, and it took

592
00:30:39.799 --> 00:30:42.319
<v Speaker 1>that four hours before they found the thirty year old

593
00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:46.160
<v Speaker 1>woman lifeless and mangled in the escalator steel structure.

594
00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:48.079
<v Speaker 2>Holy hack.

595
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:53.000
<v Speaker 1>So this is not the first incident of neglect of

596
00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:56.559
<v Speaker 1>maintenance and a severe incident occurring.

597
00:30:57.079 --> 00:31:00.160
<v Speaker 2>Those are some brutal gas.

598
00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:02.960
<v Speaker 1>And there's more out there like that. I couldn't keep

599
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:05.359
<v Speaker 1>researching them. I was like, I gotta stop this.

600
00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:09.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, that is just traumatic. There's just like no way

601
00:31:09.359 --> 00:31:12.160
<v Speaker 2>that you Oh man. I was already afraid of escalators.

602
00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:15.920
<v Speaker 2>I like, take my sweet ass time on them because

603
00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:17.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, this shit doesn't seem right, like there should

604
00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:18.599
<v Speaker 2>just be stairs here.

605
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:20.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're not wrong.

606
00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:26.640
<v Speaker 2>And uh wow, okay, yeah, so it's kind of fucked up.

607
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:31.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And like I said, there are a whole whopping

608
00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:33.960
<v Speaker 1>load of cases like this out there. I don't suggest

609
00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:35.759
<v Speaker 1>you guys go out there and research these ones because

610
00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:41.599
<v Speaker 1>these ones, it's most of them. They have video evidence

611
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:44.359
<v Speaker 1>of these ones, and it's scary.

612
00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:46.480
<v Speaker 2>And there's just something on my mind though, it's like

613
00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:50.400
<v Speaker 2>this escalator is fucked up, but we're gonna warn people

614
00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:52.880
<v Speaker 2>at the very top that it's fucked up. Yes, Like

615
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:56.880
<v Speaker 2>does that make any any sense? No, it doesn't because

616
00:31:56.920 --> 00:31:59.000
<v Speaker 2>at that point, what are you supposed to do? Run

617
00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:03.599
<v Speaker 2>the fuck down the escalator? Like, yeah, I don't get that.

618
00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:05.960
<v Speaker 1>That's that's one of the arguments you can see on

619
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:08.039
<v Speaker 1>like the YouTube comment section is like, why the fuck

620
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:09.960
<v Speaker 1>did those two workers just stand there?

621
00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:12.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, at least they were doing they were doing something.

622
00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:13.680
<v Speaker 2>They didn't just walk off.

623
00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:16.720
<v Speaker 1>They did something. Yes, they notified maintenance, and they were

624
00:32:16.759 --> 00:32:20.279
<v Speaker 1>at least standing there in attendance, but they're at the

625
00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:24.119
<v Speaker 1>wrong end. Their attendance didn't do anything because they didn't

626
00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:24.640
<v Speaker 1>speak up.

627
00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:28.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh just to think too that this mom like pushed

628
00:32:28.839 --> 00:32:32.759
<v Speaker 2>their kid at Oh, that's that's a lot.

629
00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:37.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Now, as for the maintenance in charge of the

630
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:41.079
<v Speaker 1>elevator that killed Wu, the company and the maintenance firm

631
00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:44.480
<v Speaker 1>in charge of the faulty elevator were detained by police,

632
00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:50.079
<v Speaker 1>and the report stated this, The local police are investigating

633
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:53.279
<v Speaker 1>when and why she entered the elevator and why. The

634
00:32:53.319 --> 00:32:59.680
<v Speaker 1>property management and residents all stated they were unaware. What

635
00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:04.279
<v Speaker 1>do you mean, Sorry, they're looking into when she got

636
00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:08.480
<v Speaker 1>in the elevator. And why no one hurt her?

637
00:33:08.599 --> 00:33:10.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, I thought you meant like why she was

638
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<v Speaker 2>getting in the elevator and leaving, so she was leaving

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<v Speaker 2>her apartment. Okay, I get it. I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's that's about it. That's kind of where this

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<v Speaker 1>case drops off.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, was there like serious lawsuits and shit?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, all my research has unfortunately come up dry with

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<v Speaker 1>what happened after this. I have read some hearsay that

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<v Speaker 1>they were being charged, but I can't find out with

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<v Speaker 1>what or whether it went through or if it was

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<v Speaker 1>a fine or jail time or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because that is some serious neglect it is.

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<v Speaker 1>However, if it's anything like here in Canada, they will

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<v Speaker 1>undoubtedly or would have undoubtedly be held criminally negligent. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a bill in Canada that speaks directly to

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<v Speaker 1>the workplace, and considering this is couldtech be considered a

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<v Speaker 1>workplace incident? It very well could be applicable in Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>We have something called the Westre Bill or Bill C

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<v Speaker 1>forty five. It's a federal legislation that amends the Canadian

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<v Speaker 1>Criminal Code and it became law in March thirty first

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<v Speaker 1>of two thousand and four. The bill established new legal

658
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<v Speaker 1>duties for workplace health and safety and impose serious penalties

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<v Speaker 1>for violations that result in injuries or death. Now, it

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<v Speaker 1>basically states that if found negligent in a workplace or

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<v Speaker 1>safety protocols that you took steps specifically to ignore them,

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<v Speaker 1>then you can be held criminally accountable and serve jail

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<v Speaker 1>time or possibly a fine. So, for example, if your

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<v Speaker 1>boss knowingly puts you in a dangerous situation you get

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<v Speaker 1>hurt or killed, they can literally be put behind bars.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's fair, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>This is rather progressive as far as workplace incidents worldwide. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm going to be brutally honest in my my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a feeling the company simply got a slap,

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<v Speaker 1>got slapped with a small fine and that's about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Which that's what.

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<v Speaker 2>I think is unreally awful. And I would hope, though,

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<v Speaker 2>of anything that they learned from this, or that there

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<v Speaker 2>was some sort of something that came out of this

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<v Speaker 2>that to prevent it from ever happening again. It needs

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<v Speaker 2>to have I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know if really anything is being done though. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you can do legislation, you can do protocols.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean they already had it. Yeah, they already

680
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<v Speaker 2>had it to look in there and they didn't.

681
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<v Speaker 1>Exactly people scret around it. They cut corners.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when you're yeah, when you get comfortable and you're

683
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<v Speaker 2>doing a job for too long, like it does happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And this is this is something actually I know

685
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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of because this is my day job.

686
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<v Speaker 1>I'm a health and safety coordinator, and I see all

687
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<v Speaker 1>the time people cutting corners just because it saves a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of time or that whole end of the

689
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<v Speaker 1>day attitude like it's almost five o'clock, almost going to

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<v Speaker 1>go home. Yeah, people drop their guard and whether it's

691
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<v Speaker 1>your own life for someone else's, it's going to catch

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<v Speaker 1>up eventually.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, And honestly, I do think it's just like this

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<v Speaker 2>day and age though, and everybody has just so much

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<v Speaker 2>on their mind at every time. Oh yeah, Like people

696
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<v Speaker 2>are just like overworked. They just have like too many

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<v Speaker 2>family responsibilities. Like I don't know, I just feel like

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<v Speaker 2>there's just always so many things going on inside your

699
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<v Speaker 2>brain that it gets just easy to sometimes like sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>even like driving, like you're driving, like I'm sure I'm

701
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<v Speaker 2>paying attention and stuff, but like you get to your

702
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<v Speaker 2>destination and you're like, whoa, I made it here. Yeah,

703
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<v Speaker 2>like that's really bad.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. And like you say, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>things in your mind. However, there's there's no excuse at

706
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<v Speaker 1>the same time, just like if you drink and drive,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you're on your cell phone you drive and

708
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<v Speaker 1>you get in an accident and you kill someone, it's

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<v Speaker 1>your fault. I'm sorry, it's your faul.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I see a lot of people nowadays text or

711
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<v Speaker 2>like on their phones while they're driving, like constantly. It's

712
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<v Speaker 2>a constant thing. It's almost like normal, like, which is

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<v Speaker 2>so bad because holy heck, things can happen on the

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<v Speaker 2>road in an instant.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, and people just don't think, well it's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>happen to me, or it's just a second, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I'm pretty sure there's no one in there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well look what happened. There was someone in there and

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<v Speaker 1>you literally killed them in thirty days.

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<v Speaker 2>I just hate how like just her struggle of trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get out of there. Oh, and how you could

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<v Speaker 2>see it on her body and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>That is just it's got horrifying, horrifying, Yes, absolutely horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, anyways, we hope you liked this. Episode, and thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for our patrons for selecting this one. You guys suck.

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<v Speaker 1>You made me research this one. You don't suck, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, it was it was rough.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, there's been heavier ones, I feel there is, but.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. The ones that really get me are

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<v Speaker 1>when there's there's people who just don't do their due diligence,

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<v Speaker 1>when people just walk away from it, you know, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's a witness, whether it's the police, or whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>fucking elevator maintenance.

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<v Speaker 2>When it could very easily have not been in that fate.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when it's preventable, that's when that always gets me

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<v Speaker 1>so bad. Yeah, I not that I understand, but I

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<v Speaker 1>realize there's people out there who are just going to

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<v Speaker 1>do absolutely horrendous things because that's who they are, that's

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<v Speaker 1>in their system. Generally, we can't change that that's not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily preventable. But if a civilian or someone who doesn't

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00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:29.400
<v Speaker 1>have that in their system just makes the wrong decision,

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<v Speaker 1>that fucking hurts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it was so close to me, but this

745
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<v Speaker 2>was just a very much so unnecessary death.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. Yeah, So anyways, thank you guys for listening. You

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<v Speaker 1>guys are absolutely amazing. We seriously appreciate you. Go check

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<v Speaker 1>we have a little bit of a YouTube, We have

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<v Speaker 1>Patreon and of course Twitter, Twitter. I'm gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure I put that link down below, yeah, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, as always, stay you wicked
