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Speaker 1: Or idiots on the Internet are saying, I don't care.

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I have better use of my time than to worry

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about what a bunch of weirdos are saying people that

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are of questionable sexual preferences. Tonight, we're going to talk

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about some stuff that came up today that was new

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information to me. I didn't actually know a whole lot

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about the IRA conflict. Over the years, Lord Voldemort has

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had people on. You may remember this if you're a

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longtime listener of Lord Voldemort, that he used to have

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people on, some former British intelligence agents and others who

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would discuss f flag events, and some of those broadcasts

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back in the day in the two thousands late two

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thousands would cover the British Intelligence versus Irish Republican Army squabbles,

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which were a long, complicated, nuanced history that I never

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really paid a whole lot of attention to. I don't

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think in the US we have really understood a lot

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of this, partly due to the fact that the IRA,

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in terms of its stances and its goals and what

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it was looking to do, kind of died out and

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were defeated by British intelligence in the eighties and the nineties,

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but they had a sort of a heyday in the

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sixties and seventies and a lot of wild pop pop events,

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shall we say, that were sometimes not what they appeared

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to be. So we're going to talk about a little

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bit of that. And I had a lot of requests

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for people to from people for me to get into

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the history of the KLA and the Cia and Serbia

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and the overthrow of Melusavic, and we're going to notice

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certain patterns that actually kind of find themselves re emerging

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in other places like uk R, A I, n E.

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the techniques and events that we see occurring on the

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n E. So let's get into it. And one thing

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it into pop culture in the West, even though it's

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not a huge focus. Every time you know, somebody is

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considered an enemy by the United States, the West, NATO, Britain,

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about that in terms of al Qaeda isis this kind

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of stuff and Islamic groups, many of which are also

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dubious in their origin, many of which also have their

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funding from as I would argue, many Western sources or

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allies with the West. Tonight, we're going to be talking

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about other versions, other groups, other entities that have that

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same pattern. Now, I don't believe that the entire history

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of the IRA, in its five different instantiations, they're not

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all Western fund or created. That's not what I'm saying,

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But we will find that. For example, during World War Two,

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there was a brief period of an alliance between the

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Axis powers and the IRA, simply because the IRA was

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the enemy of the British Empire and so they saw

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it as a purely pragmatic alliance. I don't think a

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whole lot came from that. Supposedly, Germans, I think we're

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going to offer espionage and intelligence assistance, but I don't

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think they did much. It didn't really come to anything.

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pretty fascinating. And the methods and techniques that British intelligence

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uses to takedown the IRA, which is something I didn't

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know a little bit about previous to more recent investigations.

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and I want to remind you that it's totally relevant

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to the topics in the news, because as we see

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from all of the DOGE auditing and efficiency examinations that

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are basically giving a failing grade to every governments in

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GEO related entity that they've looked at so far, particularly

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first and foremost USAID, which if you followed my channel

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of entities for intelligence operations through the writings of fiam Ingdahl,

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particularly Full Spectrum Dominance, which is an excellent text, but

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interviewed him almost ten years ago on Lost Hedgemon. The

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second half of our interview covers the topics in full

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Spectrum Dominance. People were asking me today, when are you

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going to do a talk on full spectrum dominance. I've

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of Lord Voldemort, and another one was the talk on

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my channel called Liberal imperium that pulls heavily from Meerscheimer

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and from F. William Ingdahl's book. So there's not just

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those texts though, I've got more texts, several articles that

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regime change coups, I guess the best way to put it.

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purview of human rights in go covers and fronts to

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do a lot of these operations, or to be the

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funding or the means behind a lot of these operations.

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a more direct sort of CIA motivation to run operatives

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in the field directly, by the time of Reagan this

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gets to be more and more privatized and more and

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more handled by NGOs and things that have really innocuous

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sounding names, like the National Endowment for Democracy or the

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White Helmets right that was actually a specifically USAID funded

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and connected operation in Syria back in twenty fifteen sixteen.

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there was extensive coverage of white helmets, Patrick, Vanessa Bealy

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many others were covering that almost on a daily basis.

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experience in reading and studying again all the way back then,

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five or six articles for Global Research. I even did.

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in this field. But you have to understand that it's

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great that USAID has been sort of exposed and perhaps

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dismantled to hope, but there are tons of these. For example,

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some years back when Pussy Riot, remember this was engaging

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in pop culture terrorism, aesthetic terror in Russia. That was

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being done, according to some analysts by people at the

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US embassy like Michael McFowl and others. They were kind

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of cheerleading this on. And that's a window into Soros

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type stuff, right, Soros type activists that in other countries

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do these sort of esthetic terror punk right, you know,

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punk rock, women's rights, feminists, abration type stuff. Usually that's

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some kind of odd, weird Soros funded thing. And the

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he was working with the CAA in the nineteen eighties

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to help fund a lot of these color revolutions in

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a lot of the particularly Eastern Bloc countries. So as

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could transition out of socialism and into neoliberal economics so

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that they can have you opened up to Western banking

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and all the you know, fortune one hundred things that

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I made a video on is it what's the name

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of that band? I always forget it? Scorpions? Remember Scorpion

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Speaker 1: But how many people remember that Scorpions and the whole

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falling of the Wall concert situation was actually a CIA operation?

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Did you know that? Absolutely? This has now been covered

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many many times. I don't know if the CI wrote

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the song. It's kind of irrelevant to what we're talking about.

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was an anthem that was promoted and particularly was I

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think premiered or you know, kicked off at a CIA

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assisted concert that was set up right this time of

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winds have changed. Now. What's funny is that the mainstream

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normies put out this podcast four years ago right talking

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about WHOA, our minds are blown. The CIA is involved

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in pop music, and they utilized scorpions and the Winds

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of Change at the Fall of the Wall and to

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sell break this and all of that, and this is

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stuff that we talked about on my channel way earlier

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than this, Okay, So basically normies come along and discover

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and break stories that everyone in the alternative media was

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saying ten to fifteen years earlier. So you wonder why I.

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Speaker 2: Was dar always bragging on Twitter? Is he got some rut.

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Speaker 1: Because when we break stuff, when we talk about something

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ten fifteen years ahead of the curve, we get called

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every name in the book for ten fifteen, twenty years,

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we get shit on, we get everything, and then these

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grifter fraudsters break all the stuff that we talked about

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ten to fifteen years earlier. That's why it's particularly annoying.

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But what's interesting is that the smarter people know that

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we are ahead of the curve, that we are fifteen

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twenty years ahead of all of these NPC normies who

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can only post stuff that their handlers allowed them to post.

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as you know. As you recall, it says the Scorpion's

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power ballad was the sound of the iron curtains fall,

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But a new podcast explores rumors that it was propaganda

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you think. The theory is explored by Orwell Prize winning

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journalist Patrick Keith in his podcast named after the song.

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Keith heard the rumor from his contacts in the intelligence community.

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I mean, you could have read all kinds of books

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Ireland's troubles, this is going to be relevant to tonight's

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discussion of the IRA. He decided to make a series

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about it, Winds of changeah blah blah, alongside CIA assisted

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coups or target assassinations. Stakes were high, and why not

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utilize pop culture. The CIA saw rock and roll music

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as a culture weapon in the Cold War. Hello, Congress

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for Cultural Freedom. This information has been in the public

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domain for twenty plus years. When did Francis Stoner Sawners

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publish our book CIA and Cultural Cold War? I mean,

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this is not new information. And let's see when her

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book came out nineteen ninety nine. Okay, so we're twenty

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six years into this information being out here about you know,

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col pop culture in the CIA and the intelligence agencies

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pop culture. It's a form of soft power and we've

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here is that, as we pointed out, USAID is a

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engineering and religious funding even in the Orthodox world, which

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looking for connections between the occult witchcraft or covens in

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British intelligence. Now we know there's a lot of that connection,

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an asset for I five, and we've covered that for

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a good while now. But I was curious if there

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was any connection I could find between British intelligence and witchcrafts,

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about black masses that were leaked to the press in

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an effort to link paramilitary attacks to the parent normal

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British military intelligence agents in Northern Ireland used fear about

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demonic possessions, black masses and witchcraft as a part of

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psychological warfare against the emerging armed groups in the Troubles

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in the nineteen seventies. This study says Wallace told Jenkins

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that they deliberately stoked up panic from nineteen seventy two

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to seventy four, Satanic panic even placing black candles and

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upside down crosses in derelict buildings in some of Belfast

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War zones. Then Army press officers would leak stories to

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newspapers about black masses and Satanic rituals taking place from

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the Republican are going in North Belfast in the Loyalist

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dominated east of the city. In Jenkins's book Black Magic

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and Boogeymen, Wallace admitted that the Psychops or the Psyops

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branch of military intelligence exploited the public sphere of Satanism

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that was stoked by such films as The Exorcist and

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The Devil Rights out which stars chrispher Lee and which

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is unesotery color. Would one and wouldn't you know? When

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we covered the character of Bladdie, what was William Peter

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was named Peter William Peter Bladdie The Extorcist a CIA script.

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One of the most widely advertised and popular but least

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known films of the year to reach audiences in civil

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years is The Extressist, based on the novel by William Bladdie.

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After graduating from Georgetown, where many of the campus scenes

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in the movie were shot. Bladdie worked for the CIA

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in Lebanon the nineteen fifties under US Information Information Agency cover.

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So here's another innocuous US agency that has that is

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filled with CIA operators. Later, he returned to Washington became

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the policy Branch chief of the Psychological Warfare Division of

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the Air Force. As such, his job involved in military

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promotion of popular anti communist sentiment around McCarthyism. An example

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of this work carried out by psychological warfare in the

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US foreign policy is orchestrated the exodus of Catholics from

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North Vietnam to South Vietnam in the nineteen fifties. This,

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if you recall, is covered by Douglas Valentine. And this

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is where we found out that Archbishop Nigodin Tuck, who

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is the founder of set of Accutism, also worked with

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the CIA in collaboration with Tom Dooley, whom Blattie quotes

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throughout the book. And we encountered the figure of Tom

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Dooley quite profusely. In the Graziano book on the history

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of the CIA in Religious Engineering, there's whole chapter on

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Tom Dooley, and he was a basically almost a Hollywood

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figure who was a Roman Catholic utilized by the CIA

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to push Americanism. Others. An extensive, extensive campaigns were carried

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out by the Catholic Social Relief Catholic Relief Services, so

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another Catholic in Geo engaged in foreign operations on the

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part of the US and the CAIA, local Catholic leaders

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and American psychological warfare team combined to drive the peasants

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south of the de military zone by telling them quote,

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the Virgin Mary has departed from the north, Christ has

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departed to the south. So again many many cases of

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this Marian apparitions, fake Marian stories of the CI utilized

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all throughout the Cold War, not just in Vietnam but

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also Latin South America. In fact, it was Ed Lansdale's

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plan to stage a second Coming of Christ to convince

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Cuban Catholics not to listen to Castro. They didn't engage

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in that plan, but this is what they do as amateur.

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As this appears now, the mass flight was admittedly the

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result of extensive, well conducted psychological warfare the part of America,

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and so this fear based paranoia and so forth that

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Blattie utilized in The Exorcist came out of his experiences

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in wartime scaring the crap out of all of these

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indigenous people. And it's exactly the model of the British

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intelligence operatives in Roman Catholic, superstitious Ireland to in the

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minds of the population associate the IRA with black mass

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and satanic rituals, and apparently to some degree it worked.

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And I wouldn't be surprised if the British intelligence operatives

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weren't also literally doing satanic black mass rituals, because that's

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what they seem to be into. So you'll notice a

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very obvious, clear and consistent overlap between religious engineering and

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social engineering through psychological warfare and mad scientists working together

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with the deep State on top of that. In the

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same vein, I want to give a shout out to

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our friends over at Syops Cinema who have started their

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own culture journal, and Jamie and I both contributed articles

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to this culture journal right here. It is called the

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Decoding Culture Foundation, and originally it was a only online

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but they've actually now created a print copy. So the

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Cultural Engineering Studies, which features.

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Speaker 3: Brett Jamie Paul and Phillip Collins, Collins Brothers, Thomas, Thomas

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and Brett from Syap Cinema and Professor I think Professor

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Steven Delay.

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Speaker 1: Isn't this as well, And you'll notice here I think

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Professor Delay wrote wrote on noir and Chinatown, so you

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can see his Chinatown pieces here. I wrote my essay

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on Fox's Millennium, the spin off from the X Files

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with Lance Hendrickson, and so giving a shout out because

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now we have our friends have a journal that is

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very cool and you can follow them over here on

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Twitter at the Dacoding Cultural Foundation. It's something that they

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recently created, so check that out there. But I wanted

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to mention this too, just kind of as a side

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thing because I think you share this Schrodinger's Gold and uh,

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if you listen to Lord Voldemort this week, he talked

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about the very thing I was thinking of, which is

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does everybody remember Goldfinger? Goldfinger's whole plot is to empty

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out Fort Knox, Right, He's got this elaborate plot that

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involves like spraying things in the sky and knocking people

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out that stealing all the gold. It's like, I want

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to know where to gold at right? It seems like

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it's maybe not there. I've assumed that it's not there.

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I don't know. But guess what, if you have a bitcoin,

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you don't have to worry about gold in Fort Knox.

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All this like legacy ancient Spanish toa balloon. Shit, All right,

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I was looking for something. Now forgot what I was

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looking for. We'll move on because I can't figure out.

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I think I was looking for that culture decoding culture

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foundation thing. Yeah, so, and keep in mind religious engineering

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as well as money laundering. Philip Collins, not phil Collins,

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Paul and Philip Collins, the twin brothers that I've interviewed

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millions of times. There's a whole rabbit hole on its

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own of megachurches and fake TV preachers. And I think

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a lot of us in this audience we think of

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TV preachers as you know, con men. You know the obvious, right,

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and that's true they are. However, a lot of people

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overlook these as money laundering operations and even potentially intelligence

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or organized crime operations too. And the more that we

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kind of learn things and as things come out, as

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these entities are getting for example, audited like USAID, as

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you guys know that involved a lot of religious organizations

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getting money directly from the government, which is stolen from us.

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It's our tax money that's then repurposed to promote all

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the things that destroy our society by design. So they

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steal our money to brainwash us with the money that

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they sole from us, and to use, for example, the

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Catholic charities all throughout the world to also promote these

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shall we say, wallless worlds that not only bring in

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all the migrants, but also Catholic charities involved in human

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traffic ki NG. So anybody who wants to come to

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me to talk about how this or that apologetic argument,

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none of it even registers to me, because if you

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don't see the global organized crime nonsense that is the VAT,

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I don't have anything to say to you. You are

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a waste of my time. There is no argument that

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will convince you. If you are still doubling down to

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defend Francis, you're a complete idiot, or you're an operative

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paid off, or you're just a plain skittles man who

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loves being in your skittles cult.

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Speaker 4: So go do that.

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Speaker 1: Stay away from me. I don't want anything to do

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with any of those people, except for Tim Gordon. We're

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still friends and my buddy Dave, two Catholics that I

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like the rest of You can go away and I

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will be fine never talking to you. I hope for

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you to come out of the delusion. But if you

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don't see you, don't let the giant papal portal doors

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hit you on the way out. And so when I see.

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Speaker 2: People, did you see that this Catholic apologist said something

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about you?

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Speaker 1: Do you think I care? Do you think it's going

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to change anything that I've done or do throughout the

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day or my modus operandi? I mean, if you don't

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have the discernment to see the obvious that Francis supports

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Davos World Economic Forum UNESCO, a global new religion based

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around New Age monotheism. Whatever, go do your thing, man.

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And I'm also reconciled south to the fact that like

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the people who are in that delusion, like they're in it, man,

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there's nothing that will convince a lot of those people.

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And so the way I see it, it's an easy

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way for me to filter out who I don't want

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anything to do with. Does that make sense. It's a

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very simple, easily reconcilable thing for me. I wish it

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weren't that way. I wish that they were not that way.

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But eventually, you know, evil things and waves of evil

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that come through, like they have a great way of

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sifting the wheat from the chaff so they can go

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do their thing. I hope that more and more Skittles

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people go to Rome. That's a great thing. It's like

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a giant magnet for the Skittles people, and it sucks

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them all in like a giant gay sucking machine. It's

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a giant gay vacuum. It's a galactic gay vacuum that

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can suck in all of the people that I don't

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want around. Go be in Rome and have your new

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Age novasorto message. They literally just commune an Anglican woman bishop.

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And then the Roman Catholics in the chat were like,

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this is the officially our policy. Excuse me, brother Roger

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shoots and tis a you didn't know that John Paul

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the Second and Ratzinger gave communion to an Anglican a

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humanist decades ago. What do you mean it's not your policy.

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They're all just a bunch of hypocrites and liars. I mean,

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there's just no other way around it, and we're gonna

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see when we get into the IRA and Protestant Orange

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Catholic or Protestant Orange Ira Catholic conflict in Ireland. There's

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not really good guys or bad guys. Like there's no

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it's gonna be a good hopefully an illustrative case where

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we see.

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Speaker 5: That.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I got perfidious Albion over here, and then

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I got all these crazy IRA people who basically want

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to be Marxists. By the nineteen sixties. I mean, there's

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no good guys in this. And it's almost identical to

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the way that the mafia gets taken down the techniques

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that British intelligence ends up using by the time of

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Maurice Oldfield. As we'll see, by the eighties and nineties,

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it's like they're done and they they are cooked. They're

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done via police informant type techniques basically, and it's essentially

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all of the IRA and the shin Fain and all

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that they basically just end up being totally controlled by

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British intelligence. It's pretty crazy. That's why it's so fascinating

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when you get into this rabbit hole. Now I'm not

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talking about conspiracy theory stuff. You have to understand what

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I'm talking about is the now admitted mainline history on

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this topic, and we're going to look at BBC broadcasts

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that brag about it. Okay, so remember you go back

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fifteen years ago, this would be considered conspiracy theory. Now

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that it's public information and basically all this stuff has

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been fizzled out and quashed. Now they can come out

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and brag about it and oh, well, yeah, you might

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have been right about all this, but you're still a

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stupid conspiracy theorist even though you were right about it all.

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So we'll look at that in a minute, and we'll

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look at their key I would say this guy is

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kind of like Sammy the Bull. This is this guy

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that we're gonna see is kind of like the equivalent

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of Sami the Bull. Not in the sense that Sammy

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the Bull was like some informant and like CI are

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a British intelligence operative from the very get go, or

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some sort of informant. This guy doesn't parallel in that

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regard in terms of their histories, but he's parallel in

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the sense of it was really a key figure in

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a key testimony and position that led to the unraveling

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of the IRA, particularly in the eighties and nineties, as

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we will see. But I did want to mention the

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bizarre elements of Paul Crouch and TBN because it's another

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window into maybe some degree of government's connivance. I don't

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know exactly, but even if it's not, it is basically

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money laundering, organized crime type stuff. And so the FBI

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apparently had been watching and kept up with Paul Crouch

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during the days of the rise of TBN from the

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eighties and the nineties. In the two thousands, I think

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eventually Paul Crouch sold it or got rid of it,

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and it ended up becoming a broadcast network for Hillsong,

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which is probably its own money laundering scam thing. Who

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knows what does the mob, organized crime, East German intelligence,

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and the PLO have in common. Paul Krouch, the founder

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of Trinity Broadcasting, the world's long largest Christian network. This

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is twenty fourteen, and in that era, always had a

476
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:14,400
knack for avoiding scandal and brushing off alaxation allegations of graft,

477
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,599
grifting and harassment with the sexual harassment. With these however,

478
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,280
the TV Evangelists FBI file released after his death reveals

479
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,840
that the criminal ties could go a lot deeper and weirder,

480
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:34,920
requested by longtime muck rock user Rocky Robbie D. The

481
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:39,400
file reveals a laundry list of Crouch's activities in the

482
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:44,039
FBI that the FBI was monitoring or investigating. Though the

483
00:34:44,119 --> 00:34:46,880
file is heavily redacted, it's intact enough to describe the

484
00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:50,760
guy's investigations into some of his exploits, whose findings are

485
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,599
mostly based on host of phone calls and to and

486
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:59,719
from Trinity Broadcasting Network with some pretty sketchy players. This

487
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:01,760
is just odd right now. Again, I don't know what

488
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,280
to make of all this, but you can see that

489
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,039
there's obviously some like large scale sussy stuff going on

490
00:35:08,199 --> 00:35:12,119
investigation by the Italian IRS of all things. The first

491
00:35:12,159 --> 00:35:14,920
one or so pages of the Crouch document makes it

492
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,480
clear that the FBI and the IRS were working closely

493
00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:22,800
with the Italian Internal Revenue Service to investigate crouches foreign

494
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,119
and domestic holdings. According to the file, the FBI and

495
00:35:26,199 --> 00:35:30,519
the GDF found that, among other things, the holdings had

496
00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:34,840
a false financial statement that they called pre billing, where

497
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,840
they could continue to receive loan money that the organization

498
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,840
would submit receipts for completed sales that were actually still

499
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,639
a work in progress. Okay again, I mean what does

500
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,800
it signify? It just signifies as some kind of like

501
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:53,199
money scam basically. The Italian side of the investigation ended

502
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:58,199
up centering on TBN's potential violation of the Italian Mammi law, which,

503
00:35:58,599 --> 00:36:02,559
according to the documents, foreign ownership of broadcasting companies in Italy.

504
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,800
In addition, the GDF believes that the company may be

505
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:11,119
acting as a front for foreign investors. Interesting, So the

506
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:17,360
Italian state, and I'm not pro Italian socialist irs or whatever,

507
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,320
they at least understood and had some sense that this

508
00:36:21,559 --> 00:36:26,559
is some kind of foreign operation going on. As soon

509
00:36:26,599 --> 00:36:28,280
as word got out in the Crouch and TBN we're

510
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,960
in money laundering, bis, the Italian mob decided that they

511
00:36:32,039 --> 00:36:34,400
wanted in. So here we have organized crime reaching out.

512
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,719
And as you guys know, you don't have to go

513
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,599
very far in organized crime before you start to interact

514
00:36:40,679 --> 00:36:44,559
with the CIA and intelligence operations as well. The file

515
00:36:44,639 --> 00:36:48,079
mentions that phone contacts between TBN and the Sons of

516
00:36:48,199 --> 00:36:51,360
Italy lodge. So here we have a free Masonic network

517
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,559
in Bronx, New York. You might be thinking that this

518
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,480
is a shaky evidence but considering the fact that the

519
00:36:58,559 --> 00:37:04,360
phone record was including a subscription of the infamous Bronx

520
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:10,159
mobster Vincent the Chin gigante's file, it's pretty clear that

521
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,559
the FBI was drawing some kind of connection. This probably

522
00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:16,760
didn't make the GDF very happy either, So Vincent the

523
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,400
Chin of the Genovez family was in some way making

524
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:25,159
phone calls and connected to TVN. This is odd Palestinian

525
00:37:25,199 --> 00:37:27,280
gun right now. What this begins to suggest to me,

526
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,360
and this, I don't think these people are smart enough

527
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,760
to figure this out because they're just looking at the

528
00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:35,639
FBI information and I doubt muck Rock knows that much.

529
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:40,440
Whatever this website is, but Palestinian gun running. Okay, now

530
00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:44,639
we're talking like CIA type stuff, clearly right, and I

531
00:37:44,679 --> 00:37:50,159
don't know who, like nobody with any sense would actually

532
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,360
think that Paul Crouch was connected to the KGB. I mean,

533
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:58,119
this is completely preposterous or to Soviets. I don't think so.

534
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,400
I mean, we're you know, TBN is in the era

535
00:38:01,639 --> 00:38:07,119
of post Cold War right. As part of the FBI's investigation,

536
00:38:08,039 --> 00:38:12,119
FBI dug up an older investigation into reports that Paul

537
00:38:12,199 --> 00:38:15,480
Crouch had been working with the PLO receiving funds to

538
00:38:15,639 --> 00:38:20,119
run guns to the organization. The reports accused Couch, Crouch

539
00:38:20,199 --> 00:38:26,239
and his partners are being motivated by anti Semitic and

540
00:38:26,559 --> 00:38:31,000
white you know what beliefs, because that's utterly preposterous. Now,

541
00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:37,239
I don't doubt that there's this kind of organized crime

542
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,920
going on, but the FBI is woke analysis is preposterous.

543
00:38:41,559 --> 00:38:46,280
I mean, all of these American evangelical TV preachers are

544
00:38:46,679 --> 00:38:50,800
super Zionists and they're not in any way involved in

545
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,840
the nonsense that this is proposing. On the next page,

546
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,480
the same investigation identified TBN in a number, and then

547
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,639
one of TBN's numbers and a call to the Islamic

548
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:06,679
Education Center in Baltimore. Now again, why would TBN be

549
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:11,440
calling giant Islamic centers and be why would there be

550
00:39:11,519 --> 00:39:14,119
calls from famous mobsters, why would there be calls to

551
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,599
money going to Italy? And now here is where we

552
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:25,079
get really absurd. East Germans by yes, that is in

553
00:39:25,159 --> 00:39:28,480
there too. Numerous sections of the document mentioned TBN's phone

554
00:39:28,519 --> 00:39:32,159
communications with an unnamed agent who was recruited by the

555
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,800
East German intelligence Service. This file later describes the man

556
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,400
believed to have been recruited by East Germany was a

557
00:39:39,559 --> 00:39:43,800
New York attorney who called TBN repeatedly between April and

558
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,440
September of nineteen eighty six. Okay, so this is eighties,

559
00:39:47,559 --> 00:39:50,039
this is towards the end of the Cold War. And again,

560
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,119
I mean, who actually believes that TBN has anything to

561
00:39:53,199 --> 00:39:57,199
do with the KGB or East German Stazi. This would

562
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:04,679
obviously be again like big red flags for CIA top operations.

563
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,880
Other sketchy phone calls that went in and out of

564
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:12,639
TBN over the years included a Hungarian computer programmer whom

565
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:18,400
TB sponsored for US citizenship, and phone calls from a

566
00:40:18,519 --> 00:40:23,519
number in Omaha which were documented as involving separate FBI

567
00:40:23,639 --> 00:40:29,599
and narcotics transfer investigations. So drug running, gun running, getting

568
00:40:29,639 --> 00:40:35,880
people probably out of communist areas into the West. This

569
00:40:36,079 --> 00:40:43,679
is CIA stuff. And if this was occurring at that level,

570
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,199
that would explain why Paul Crouch never got in trouble.

571
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,639
See so again I don't have a hard proof of that,

572
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:56,079
but all of these red flags would indicate that type

573
00:40:56,119 --> 00:40:58,280
of a thing, for it being a cutout or a front.

574
00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:02,599
And I mean the way this kind of stuff would

575
00:41:02,599 --> 00:41:05,880
work is that it's not mutually exclusive to you know,

576
00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:09,079
his own business dealings. In other words, the cion might say, look,

577
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,360
we're going to allow you to run TBN in these

578
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,840
countries and do what you're doing and have these connections

579
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,760
in Italy or in these other countries, but you're also

580
00:41:20,079 --> 00:41:22,679
going to when we need you, do these certain things

581
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:27,880
for us. So that's how that might work, all right,

582
00:41:28,079 --> 00:41:32,039
so a little bit. Then we're gonna move on now

583
00:41:32,119 --> 00:41:36,719
to the IRA. Get into this history because it's fascinating

584
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,239
and this is not an area that I'm that well

585
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,039
studied in, so I don't know a lot. I'm sure

586
00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:43,519
there's people in the chat that are going to a

587
00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:46,159
lot more than me, and that's fine. You guys feel

588
00:41:46,199 --> 00:41:47,960
free to chime in if this is one of those

589
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,960
areas where you just happen to know about it.

590
00:41:51,159 --> 00:41:53,039
Speaker 2: Or if you're one of the Irish people, how do

591
00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:56,079
you know all about it? They're dirty, they're dirty English.

592
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,360
There's a lot of dirty English and they go to

593
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:00,360
be Tom Couch.

594
00:42:03,599 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 1: Feel free to correct me. But let's see where do

595
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:19,119
I want to begin this. Let's begin this with a

596
00:42:19,199 --> 00:42:23,960
little bit of background. Go back to the seventeen nineties,

597
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,079
and there was a guy named Tone, a Tone and

598
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:34,079
the Protestants were making moves to take land in Ireland, right,

599
00:42:34,119 --> 00:42:38,880
and this was presumably being fostered by the Protestant British monarchy.

600
00:42:39,639 --> 00:42:42,360
And the Catholics in Ireland were not happy with this, right,

601
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:47,400
they were sick of these English lords. This is, you know,

602
00:42:47,519 --> 00:42:49,599
kind of like a Brave Heart scenario where you've got

603
00:42:49,639 --> 00:42:52,480
these English coming in and these English happened to be

604
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,599
Protestant and they decide we're going to start taking some

605
00:42:57,679 --> 00:43:00,320
of this land, so they become these English land and

606
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:05,000
they just kind of steal the land of the indigenous peoples.

607
00:43:10,199 --> 00:43:17,400
And I'm trying to remember this first guy's name. Of course,

608
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:24,519
it never pulls out what I'm looking for. This begins

609
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,280
the move for Irish independence, and the guy's name is

610
00:43:28,519 --> 00:43:43,280
Tone t Any. I think Theobald Tone. Yes, the Irish

611
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:48,119
Rebellion of seventeen ninety eight, Theobald Tone. And this is it,

612
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,119
right here an argument on behalf of the Catholics of Ireland.

613
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:57,559
So this is a Catholic revolution. Tone's essay kicks this off.

614
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,159
And in seventeen ninety eight, I think they actually go

615
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,119
to battle and they lose. They do not do very good.

616
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:09,559
The English whipped their Butts and Tone ends up dying

617
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,599
in this battle to try to kick out some of

618
00:44:12,679 --> 00:44:18,960
these English landlords. But this kicks off a fire in

619
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,039
the minds of men. We could say that they're ready

620
00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:25,719
to get rid of these colonialists and they want Ireland

621
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,440
to be for the Irish. And Ireland is Catholic, right

622
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:35,360
many generations of Catholics. Now they don't want Roman Catholics.

623
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:41,159
Obviously they had abandoned their Orthodox Catholic faith, but they

624
00:44:41,199 --> 00:44:48,119
don't want Protestant British rule. And so this begins a tradition.

625
00:44:48,199 --> 00:44:50,400
I guess we could say this doesn't immediately kick off

626
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,760
with what we know as the IRA today. That is

627
00:44:55,519 --> 00:44:58,000
something much later. So we're going to fast forward to

628
00:45:01,559 --> 00:45:08,920
the turn of the century to where we get what

629
00:45:09,199 --> 00:45:10,960
is the beginning of what we know of as the

630
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:18,519
Irish Republican Army. And this takes place in the nineteen nineteens. Okay,

631
00:45:18,599 --> 00:45:21,079
So you get guys coming back from World War One

632
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,840
and they're known as the Old IRA. These are members

633
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,719
of the Irish Volunteers and the Irish citizen Army that

634
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,639
fought in World War One, and then they came back

635
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,800
and they decided that they were not happy with again

636
00:45:36,559 --> 00:45:40,480
the British ruling over them, and so they fought against

637
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,960
Britain in the Irish War of Independence from nineteen nineteen

638
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,800
to nineteen twenty one. This is known as the Old

639
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,039
IRA or the first instantiation of IRA. Now there's going

640
00:45:51,079 --> 00:45:54,079
to be like five Okay, this gets pretty convoluted, It

641
00:45:54,119 --> 00:45:56,960
gets a little nuanced and difficult keeping up with all

642
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,639
these different Iras. So I'm not going to go through

643
00:45:59,639 --> 00:46:01,760
all of that. We're going to get a little bit

644
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,480
of the basics, and then we're going to fast forward

645
00:46:03,519 --> 00:46:11,800
to more recent times to where the actions get to

646
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,400
where they pop off, so to speak. Now, this original

647
00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:21,360
IRA fought and they were able to at least get

648
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,840
the appearance of the British crown to come to some

649
00:46:25,039 --> 00:46:27,760
kind of a deal at the table, and what they

650
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:32,760
ended up getting was supposedly a treaty where there would

651
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:37,199
never be an English monarch ruling over Ireland. The Irish

652
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,519
would have their own monarch and they could kind of

653
00:46:39,679 --> 00:46:42,280
co rule. Now, I don't know why they thought that,

654
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,000
why they fell for this. I mean it kind of

655
00:46:45,039 --> 00:46:49,920
seems like, I mean, this is like William Wallace believing

656
00:46:50,079 --> 00:46:53,440
in being duped into the treachery of you know, the

657
00:46:53,559 --> 00:46:58,000
other Scottish lords right that you know in the movie.

658
00:46:58,079 --> 00:47:00,239
I don't know about the real history if that's even

659
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,760
that accurate. But the Scottish lords in Braveheart right that

660
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,840
like betray William Wallace to the king. Right, this is

661
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,199
kind of the same situation where it's like half of

662
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,360
the IRA at this time they were like this is

663
00:47:11,679 --> 00:47:16,159
not good. They opposed the treaty people, so there was

664
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,239
pro and anti treaty people and a lot of people

665
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:27,599
saw this as a concession. And this next phase of

666
00:47:27,679 --> 00:47:32,440
the IRA, the anti treaty IRA. This is the people

667
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,639
who are against this original treaty with the with the Crown,

668
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,599
fought against and lost this civil war. So there was

669
00:47:37,639 --> 00:47:42,079
a civil war within the IRA and they people against

670
00:47:42,119 --> 00:47:46,679
the treaty for union lost and this leads to a

671
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,000
actually the first Treaty led to a separation. I should

672
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,159
say I forgot this important point part in the first

673
00:47:53,880 --> 00:48:00,320
Treaty between the Irish and the British monarchy, they created

674
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,360
Northern Ireland in southern Ireland. Northern Ireland is the pro

675
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:11,000
unionist treaty Ireland, which is largely Protestant and their tradition

676
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:16,239
is the Orange IRA or the Orange Protestant Fighters going

677
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,800
back to seventeen hundreds as well, so there was also

678
00:48:20,039 --> 00:48:27,199
a Protestant fighters in Ireland. In the south of Ireland

679
00:48:28,119 --> 00:48:33,639
is all of the Catholic Republicans. I'm not sure how

680
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,760
that all came about. I'm not an Irish historian. I'm

681
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,679
sure Tim Gordon knows all about the history of Catholic Republicanism.

682
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,280
That's kind of his thing. To me, it doesn't really

683
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,159
make sense because it seems like the history of the

684
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:52,719
Church's preferred form of government has pretty much always been monarchy,

685
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,920
maybe a little bit of republicanism here and there, Italian

686
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:02,079
Republic and apparently this Irish Republic, which I guess didn't

687
00:49:02,159 --> 00:49:02,840
last very long.

688
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 6: And so.

689
00:49:11,159 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: This next phase is this internal battle between the people

690
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:20,280
who are pro union and anti union, and the anti

691
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,400
unionists deemed all of this to be a complete creation

692
00:49:23,679 --> 00:49:26,920
of British imperialism. Okay, you can begin to see here

693
00:49:27,159 --> 00:49:30,880
why these people will begin to move towards Marxism and

694
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:36,039
socialism due to the anti imperialist tendencies. And of course,

695
00:49:36,119 --> 00:49:37,920
if you're wondering how all this got to where we

696
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:42,480
are today, this is why shin Fane and these kinds

697
00:49:42,519 --> 00:49:46,360
of movements that perhaps at one point maybe stood for

698
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:51,119
an independent Ireland. They're all like pro skittles socialists stuff. Now,

699
00:49:51,639 --> 00:49:58,239
So this is partly why Ireland is just completely ruining itself,

700
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:04,039
because it is essentially a up the false left socialist

701
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:09,519
dynamics that every country that adopts it destroys themselves with

702
00:50:10,199 --> 00:50:13,559
basically so all of Europe with all of its socialist

703
00:50:13,639 --> 00:50:19,159
nonsense for the last however, many one hundred years, going

704
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,800
back to even the creation of the EU, which is

705
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,920
itself a fabian socialist institution. All of this destroys the societies.

706
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,719
And then what do they all do. They all clamor

707
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,480
and scream for more liberalism and more socialism. So when

708
00:50:33,559 --> 00:50:36,599
your policies fail and everything gets destroyed, well it has

709
00:50:36,679 --> 00:50:42,280
to be the fault of the elites. It's the fault

710
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:46,960
of the Western capitalists. So give us more socialism, more liberalism,

711
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,360
and then when that makes it ten times worse, no

712
00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:54,119
more liberalism. But you can only get that right when

713
00:50:54,119 --> 00:51:00,480
you've got a really deracinated population. It completely neutralized and

714
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:15,360
demoralized and brutalized, dumbed down population. Anyway, So the internal

715
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:22,920
war exists in some kind of squabble for the next

716
00:51:23,119 --> 00:51:27,599
forty years until nineteen sixty nine. Oops, let me do that.

717
00:51:34,039 --> 00:51:38,519
Oh that's my part O think so, and we should

718
00:51:38,519 --> 00:51:46,280
make as a side note, some years after losing the

719
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:50,559
Civil War, there was a faction led by de Valera,

720
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:55,960
which that sounds Spanish but it's not, and he resigned

721
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:00,719
from sin Fane shin Fain to establish the Fauna Party,

722
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,639
which is among the largest parties in the Republic of Ireland.

723
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,159
So you had this guy who was in the IRA

724
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,800
or whatever, and then he leaves that and he kind

725
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,440
of becomes the model of what these people see as

726
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:21,960
a trader because he's kind of pro British. And I'm

727
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:26,480
mentioning this shin Fane because it's now like pro skittles,

728
00:52:26,679 --> 00:52:30,960
pro everything. By the nineteen sixties, after the failed border

729
00:52:31,079 --> 00:52:32,719
campaign and this is we're going to look at this

730
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,760
in a minute, where there was a bunch of attempts

731
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,519
by the IRA. They're actually pretty successful and pretty it's

732
00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:41,320
pretty amazing what they did at first, but eventually this

733
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:46,000
didn't really pan out. After these failed border campaigns, shin

734
00:52:46,119 --> 00:52:49,719
Fain moved towards a Marxist class struggle outlook. With the

735
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,840
outbreak of the troubles Shinfean, or as it came to

736
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,679
be known as the formation of the Provisional Ira, and

737
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:59,159
the Provisional shin Fein found itself sidelined because of his

738
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:03,280
decision not to engage the British state militarily. Over time,

739
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,360
the official Irate faded away, while the Official shin Fein

740
00:53:06,519 --> 00:53:11,360
moved towards a purely Marxist position, calling itself the shin

741
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,559
Fein Workers Party in the nineteen eighty two the Workers Party.

742
00:53:15,079 --> 00:53:18,679
So they just literally destroyed themselves and everything that they

743
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:23,599
stood for by adopting this idiotic, straight up Marxism. And

744
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,119
this was probably like, I mean, this is probably run

745
00:53:27,199 --> 00:53:29,199
out of England, right, I mean anything that's like some

746
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:34,280
kind of Marxist workers party that's usually run by Western

747
00:53:34,519 --> 00:53:41,840
British or other countries banking elites. Probably after the nineteen

748
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:47,119
seventy two ceasefire, the official shin Fein suffered a split,

749
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,679
leading to the formation of the far left Irish National

750
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:57,760
Liberation Army and the Irish Republican Socialist Party. So isn't

751
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:03,480
it interesting that there's no oh, actual traditional conservative option

752
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:11,119
amongst all this. It's all just trash, garbage socialist left nonsense.

753
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,159
I mean, maybe there is some trad party that I

754
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:18,960
don't know about, but somehow all of these people just

755
00:54:19,079 --> 00:54:23,360
got completely demoralized. And I don't know if it was

756
00:54:23,519 --> 00:54:26,440
if it's maybe it's a combination of things, right, I mean,

757
00:54:26,599 --> 00:54:30,639
Ireland was I think they were starved out by the

758
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:34,199
British and British intelligence at one point in the past.

759
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,159
I don't know the history of Ireland. I'm just remembering

760
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:40,159
podcasts where I heard them talking about potato famine and

761
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:46,960
you know, you had like satirization in isn't it Golliver's

762
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,519
Travels where Swift talks about British elites saying, well, why

763
00:54:50,559 --> 00:54:53,000
don't we just get rid of all of the Irish? Right,

764
00:54:53,079 --> 00:54:57,039
So there's almost like a genetic ethnic cleansing type of thing.

765
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:08,480
And it's just it's just so weird that all of

766
00:55:08,559 --> 00:55:13,639
these I mean, I guess this is technically European at

767
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,360
least for Americans, but probably they don't see themselves as

768
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:20,760
quote European. But it's just so odd that like all

769
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,440
they get is like some kind of weird super left

770
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,360
just socialists, just trash, like that's all that's all you get.

771
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:36,039
And then like some mildly almost libertarian ish thing like AfD,

772
00:55:36,519 --> 00:55:39,519
or maybe a little bit more right of libertarian like

773
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:45,639
Lapin and all of that, like that, that whole superstructure

774
00:55:45,639 --> 00:55:47,800
of the EU and the media, like it's all just

775
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:52,119
immediately castigated as a return to tiny Mustache Man. I mean,

776
00:55:52,159 --> 00:55:56,599
it's just crazy, like they got so much mileage out

777
00:55:56,639 --> 00:55:59,679
of tiny mustache Man that they can forever pull these

778
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:06,639
guilt trips to make anyone who wants to defend their

779
00:56:07,199 --> 00:56:10,920
place and their people into followers of tiny mustache Man.

780
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:16,000
I just think about how crazy that is. And obviously, yes,

781
00:56:16,079 --> 00:56:18,920
there's a lot of zillions of dollars from all of

782
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:25,639
the horrible Soros Western banking fortune one hundred just all

783
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,599
of that money, of course goes to all of this stuff.

784
00:56:29,079 --> 00:56:32,239
So it looks like, and I don't know this history,

785
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,199
maybe there is some traditional right wing thing that just

786
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,400
never got a lot of attraction. I don't know, but

787
00:56:38,679 --> 00:56:41,559
it just looks like they just never got any anything

788
00:56:41,679 --> 00:56:47,639
but all this weird. I mean, after the nineteen sixties,

789
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:55,639
here's this other version of the IRA oppose Marxism, but

790
00:56:55,840 --> 00:57:00,639
it came to develop a left wing orientation. So it's

791
00:57:00,679 --> 00:57:04,719
like they're all just leftists. It's like, how come everybody

792
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,239
in this whole thing was leftist? It was odd to me.

793
00:57:08,559 --> 00:57:14,719
But maybe Catholicism, maybe Roman Catholicism eventually does just sort

794
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:22,440
of water itself down into just socialism. That's basically what

795
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,480
Dustyevsky has the Grand Inquisitor saying.

796
00:57:26,639 --> 00:57:26,719
Speaker 4: Right.

797
00:57:26,719 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: Remember in Grand Inquisitor, the Grand Inquisitor tells Jesus, Yeah,

798
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,199
we don't really need you anymore. We can create a

799
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:38,760
global socialist religion that doesn't need Jesus. So thank you

800
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,800
for your time. You maybe excused Jesus. Right, that's what

801
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:48,320
the Grand Inquisitor basically says as he interrogates Jesus. And

802
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,280
I mean maybe that's essentially the prophetic idea that does

803
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,039
see if you had is that? I mean, this is

804
00:57:53,119 --> 00:57:59,599
really this is what Roman Catholicism eventually disintegrates into. Now,

805
00:58:00,079 --> 00:58:03,159
with all of that, don't misunderstand me as if I'm

806
00:58:03,199 --> 00:58:06,840
saying that the British government are the good guys. No,

807
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,840
I'm not saying that there are no good guys here necessarily,

808
00:58:11,639 --> 00:58:18,159
but I think to be fair, like the the British

809
00:58:18,159 --> 00:58:21,719
seem to have been more dastardly here than anyone else,

810
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,079
and not just because not because not because of the

811
00:58:26,199 --> 00:58:29,159
reasons that the leftists always say, you see, because this

812
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,880
is precise to the point to where when these kinds

813
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,880
of discussions come up, all of the socialists and the

814
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,639
Marxists love to jump in and point out.

815
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 2: The even colonial that's not elis.

816
00:58:43,639 --> 00:58:46,039
Speaker 1: And this is where we get woke. So you see

817
00:58:46,079 --> 00:58:55,239
how this quickly merges into woke nonsense. And so in

818
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,320
the nineteen fifties is when you had this really fascinating

819
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:04,639
time period where the IRA adopted some pretty wild, hefty

820
00:59:05,639 --> 00:59:11,239
guerrilla tactics and they would actually start raiding British barracks

821
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,159
and stealing the guns, and they got pretty good at it.

822
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:19,039
And so they essentially created the quote Irish civil rights movement.

823
00:59:19,599 --> 00:59:21,360
I don't know if that actually means anything, because it

824
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:28,480
ends up all just meaning nothing today. And they also

825
00:59:28,519 --> 00:59:31,400
had another challenge though we're talking about this the Southern

826
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:39,039
Catholic IRA fighting against the Protestant Northern pro UK faction.

827
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,639
They now had to try to unify a country that

828
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,280
was religiously divided. Now, from the bantage point of imperial

829
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:52,920
politics and imperial geopolitics, having a divided Ireland was perfect

830
00:59:53,519 --> 00:59:56,519
for the imperial power structure. That's precisely all the way

831
00:59:56,599 --> 00:59:59,480
back to ancient empires or Caesar's diaries.

832
00:59:59,639 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 4: Right.

833
01:00:00,159 --> 01:00:04,199
Speaker 1: The way the empire works is you keep the satellite

834
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:10,519
regions divided tribally or across religious divides to control them

835
01:00:11,159 --> 01:00:14,360
in terms of the imperial power structure. And that's well known.

836
01:00:15,159 --> 01:00:18,920
I can give you just read Erk Wahlberg's postmodern Imperium book.

837
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,159
The whole book is essentially partly about that. In the

838
01:00:21,159 --> 01:00:24,320
first hundred pages we've lectured through that text. So likewise,

839
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,239
here the British Empire wanted there to be another northern

840
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:33,039
Southern Ireland because this divide allows the nation to be

841
01:00:33,239 --> 01:00:36,639
subject to the empire and to be under control, and

842
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,039
because you could never get these Protestant goobers in the

843
01:00:40,119 --> 01:00:42,400
North and the Catholic goovers in the south to ever

844
01:00:42,559 --> 01:00:48,960
unite again. It's a perfect model of control. Now, the

845
01:00:49,079 --> 01:00:52,639
South was Catholic and very poor, and eventually they were

846
01:00:52,679 --> 01:00:54,639
losing a lot of their young men to moving off

847
01:00:54,679 --> 01:00:57,559
to get to find work, moving to other countries, moving

848
01:00:57,599 --> 01:01:00,519
to other places, coming to America. Many many, many of

849
01:01:00,559 --> 01:01:07,320
these southern poor Irish Catholics came to the US, you see,

850
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,480
And that was because they wanted work, and a lot

851
01:01:10,559 --> 01:01:17,159
of the Southern Catholic Irish were constantly seeking support from

852
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:22,480
American Irish Catholics in whatever ways however they could find it.

853
01:01:25,719 --> 01:01:28,760
Now aren't the Kennedy's Irish. This might also play into

854
01:01:29,199 --> 01:01:35,639
why Irish IRA type stuff perhaps thought that they could

855
01:01:35,679 --> 01:01:41,000
get an alliance from a JFKRFK presidency, because I think,

856
01:01:41,519 --> 01:01:45,320
if I recall, the Kennedys are Irish Catholic in their descent,

857
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,920
so Irish politicians would seek iris at us Irish support.

858
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,280
But I don't think this helped a whole lot. However,

859
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,679
we can think of some cultural artifacts that have come

860
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,480
out of this that you might not know if you're

861
01:02:00,519 --> 01:02:03,800
a YOU two fan. Early U two was, for whatever reason,

862
01:02:04,599 --> 01:02:06,360
very much caught up in this conflict.

863
01:02:06,519 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 2: Right Sunday Bloody Sunday. Sunday Bloody Sunday.

864
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:19,199
Speaker 1: Bono made his bones by social justice virtue signaling over

865
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,760
these conflicts. Whether he really cared about it, who knows.

866
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:27,239
But that is about a nineteen seventy two British troops

867
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:32,880
firing at IRA protesters and I think a child got

868
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:39,400
shot or something. That's what Sunday Bloody Sunday is about.

869
01:02:41,559 --> 01:02:45,559
But I mean, who really believes that Bono cares about anybody.

870
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,719
I mean, come on, maybe in the eighties or you

871
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:50,800
know when they wrote that song he did. I don't know.

872
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:58,840
But it's a fascinating history from a military standpoint. I'm

873
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:00,679
not going to go into all these details, but basically,

874
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,800
you had a lot of farmers in Ireland who decided

875
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,719
that they were willing to die for Irish independence and

876
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:11,039
to continue this idea from previous generations of the IRA

877
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,079
to get the British out. They saw a lot of

878
01:03:14,119 --> 01:03:18,679
the leaders who'd become politicians to be traders, and so

879
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:25,000
they began to organize in nineteen fifty two through people

880
01:03:25,159 --> 01:03:28,239
selling their farms and giving the money to this newly

881
01:03:28,599 --> 01:03:32,599
formed IRA. They would actually engage in raids on bases

882
01:03:32,679 --> 01:03:36,239
and barracks of the British, and they literally were successful

883
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,320
in almost all these early raids, and they just stole

884
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,440
all the guns, which is pretty impressive. So they got

885
01:03:41,639 --> 01:03:45,800
kind of, you know, confident, felt like they could make

886
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,519
an attack on some of the British in the North

887
01:03:49,719 --> 01:03:52,280
after they'd taken a lot of weapons, and so they

888
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:56,159
went in to the border wars to try to sneak

889
01:03:56,199 --> 01:03:59,760
across the border and engage in different activities in the

890
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:04,599
pro UK Northern Ireland, and a lot of these failed,

891
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:09,880
so they didn't do very good. They trained and tried

892
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:11,880
to They tried to recruit a lot of Irish boys

893
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:15,159
to train and to fight in the North. They even

894
01:04:15,199 --> 01:04:17,920
were successful enough to get spies in the British Army.

895
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:25,199
They would break into barrackses even in the UK. In

896
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,920
nineteen fifty five in Britain they raided various barracks and

897
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:33,280
were actually successful and this led to what they decided

898
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,840
would be Operation Harvest, and I think this was run

899
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:40,199
by a guy named Sean Cronin Shun Cronin it was

900
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:43,840
time for battle, they began to train young men to

901
01:04:44,159 --> 01:04:46,079
run in waves of twenty I don't know where they

902
01:04:46,119 --> 01:04:49,079
came up with this, but probably their knowledge of guerrilla

903
01:04:49,119 --> 01:04:52,400
warfare tactics, because if you're a very small group or

904
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:55,679
force and you're fighting against something like an empire, you're

905
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:59,559
kind of forced into gorilla type tactics. And so they

906
01:04:59,639 --> 01:05:02,519
came up with this idea of sending waves of twenty

907
01:05:02,639 --> 01:05:05,719
five men at a time to go in and attack

908
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:11,320
various targets in Northern Ireland. The idea was to force

909
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:15,280
the British to completely leave Ireland. This was a huge mistake.

910
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:19,079
The Unionists in the North were far stronger than the

911
01:05:19,199 --> 01:05:24,599
IRA and so this completely failed, and the former member

912
01:05:24,639 --> 01:05:27,159
of the IRA, d Valeria, who was the politician in

913
01:05:27,159 --> 01:05:32,119
the North, introduced a completely iron fisted, heavy handed policy

914
01:05:32,199 --> 01:05:38,119
of all supporters and IRA affiliated people being locked up

915
01:05:38,199 --> 01:05:48,000
and put into solitary confinement, really harsh prison punishments. This

916
01:05:48,159 --> 01:05:51,760
backfire because even though this early phase of IRA was

917
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:55,280
not very successful, even though they were very daring and

918
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,400
they had basically killed a bunch of young Irish guys

919
01:05:58,599 --> 01:06:06,440
in suppress. This led to a public relations debacle and

920
01:06:06,559 --> 01:06:10,320
this allowed the IRA to actually garner the support of

921
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:15,360
millions of people across Ireland. In fact, one of the

922
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,199
martyrs I don't remember his name, but fifty thousand Irish

923
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:22,639
people came to his funeral for fighting against the British,

924
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:26,719
So it was a huge symbolic victory, a moral victory,

925
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:33,719
and perhaps the British underestimated this situation. As a result

926
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:37,400
of this, Shinfein at this time won many elections even

927
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:42,880
though deve Valeria had introduced these super heavy handed policies,

928
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:45,880
So you can begin to see how the country is

929
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:50,800
completely divided and you've got this politician in the north

930
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:54,320
it's enacting these crazy policies. Now you can begin to

931
01:06:54,360 --> 01:07:01,960
see why with massive moral support for the IRA, there

932
01:07:02,039 --> 01:07:07,960
begins to be this just escalation of the conflict. I

933
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:17,440
should say, this begins the introductions of all of the

934
01:07:19,079 --> 01:07:24,519
shall we say f a k E. Flag events, cars,

935
01:07:24,599 --> 01:07:35,800
going pop pop assassinations and British intelligence at this point

936
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:38,840
then relies on, by the time of the seventies and eighties,

937
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,800
a figure by the name of Maurice Oldfield. And we

938
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:48,039
have we've encountered him in multiple books. I know we've

939
01:07:48,079 --> 01:07:53,320
encountered him in the Stephen Dorel book. And he, believe

940
01:07:53,320 --> 01:08:00,639
it or not, is the basis for Agent Smiley in

941
01:08:00,719 --> 01:08:04,159
the John Lecaray stories. I think Oldfield is the basis

942
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:13,519
and that's why. Yep, in the BBC versions of Tinker

943
01:08:13,559 --> 01:08:18,039
Taylor Soldier Spy or the John Smiley stories, it's actually

944
01:08:18,159 --> 01:08:25,119
Alec guinnis Obi Wan Kenobi who plays Maurice Oldfield. Maurice

945
01:08:25,199 --> 01:08:28,159
Oldfield rose from humble beginnings to become one of U

946
01:08:28,239 --> 01:08:31,920
K's greatest ever spy chiefs. He was credited with keeping

947
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:36,600
his country out of Vietnam War, and he's the inspiration

948
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for Alec Guinnis portrayal of George Smiley. I said, johnam

949
01:08:40,199 --> 01:08:44,039
at George Smiley. John Lecaray is George Smiley in the

950
01:08:44,279 --> 01:08:51,760
TV series Tinker Taylor, Soldier Spy. So get this puffy

951
01:08:51,840 --> 01:09:00,680
bloated British bloke here. He is the figure who essentially

952
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:04,520
goes to Ireland, to Northern Ireland and sets up a

953
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:07,640
bunch of operations and black ops and covert ops to

954
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,479
figure out how to finally just completely put an end

955
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:16,720
to the IRA and this ends up being successful. He

956
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:21,079
decides that the only way to absolutely get rid of

957
01:09:21,159 --> 01:09:27,039
this is through how to quote quote sensitive intelligence and

958
01:09:27,239 --> 01:09:33,800
covert forces. And this was a really good BBC video

959
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:37,119
by the way, and we're gonna listen to a couple

960
01:09:37,319 --> 01:09:39,560
sections of this. I hope this doesn't ding the copyright.

961
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:43,359
Let's see. Is it gonna ding it? I don't think

962
01:09:43,399 --> 01:09:50,119
it will. So here's a little bit on Oldfield. Let

963
01:09:50,159 --> 01:09:51,439
me see where was that right here?

964
01:10:03,199 --> 01:10:06,600
Speaker 6: The professional she chose was the model for Alec Guinness's

965
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:15,960
portrayal a fictional spy George Smiley. Morris Oldfield, a former

966
01:10:16,039 --> 01:10:18,560
head of m I six and a veteran Cold War

967
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:28,319
spy in Belfast. Oldfield liaised with David Ramsbottom, the senior

968
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:30,479
general in the city at the time.

969
01:10:32,079 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 5: I remember we invited him home on Boxing Day and

970
01:10:38,199 --> 01:10:41,720
met my wife's birthday and we always play charades at

971
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:45,319
the time, and he drew the spy who came in

972
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:50,079
from the Cold Finger at his chest.

973
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:58,640
Speaker 6: Oldfield stay in Northern Ireland was brief but influential. His

974
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:08,119
team ultimately re drew Britain's security strategy. They analyzed individual

975
01:11:08,279 --> 01:11:15,119
io RA units like East Trone, concluding in their case

976
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:19,199
that the only effective attack was likely to be based

977
01:11:19,279 --> 01:11:23,439
on sensitive intelligence and the use of covert.

978
01:11:23,199 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 2: Forces scientsitive intelligence of covert horses for Party two weeks

979
01:11:30,159 --> 01:11:30,760
Farty two.

980
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:34,760
Speaker 1: All right, so you get the idea. Now, how did

981
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:38,159
they actually pull this off? Well, let's listen to this

982
01:11:38,279 --> 01:11:42,840
section where it goes into the actual methodology. And this

983
01:11:43,039 --> 01:11:47,039
leads to a key figure I mentioned earlier, the comparison

984
01:11:47,119 --> 01:11:50,640
to Sami the Bull, and this is a figure by

985
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:57,880
the name of Freddy SCOPATICI. I think that's right. How

986
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,119
in the hell you get a name like that if

987
01:12:00,119 --> 01:12:02,640
you're Irish? I don't know, but I think maybe he's

988
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:08,760
half Italian, but the ultimate sort of inside man who

989
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,159
leads partly as long as that. And there ends up

990
01:12:12,159 --> 01:12:16,680
being many other British intelligence operators who had infiltrated the IRA,

991
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:20,239
as well as police. So remember there's like actually two

992
01:12:20,359 --> 01:12:24,239
layers going on here. There's local police that are infiltrating

993
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:28,600
and using informants in the IRA as well as in

994
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:32,279
I six, in my five British intelligence using uh these

995
01:12:32,399 --> 01:12:35,159
kinds of operatives as well. And you'll see this two

996
01:12:35,279 --> 01:12:38,600
layer is really important because this ends up confusing a

997
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,720
lot of people even within the British intelligence structure of

998
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,399
the British government, trying to figure out and unravel what

999
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:50,039
exactly is going on in this labyrinthine plot to take

1000
01:12:50,159 --> 01:12:53,840
down the IRA, which ends up being successful. And you're

1001
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:55,520
going to see why I'm talking about all this in

1002
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:57,640
just a second. It's because this is this is wild.

1003
01:12:58,159 --> 01:13:03,039
Basically by this time, through the I guess the ideas

1004
01:13:03,119 --> 01:13:07,000
of Maurice Olpil and others, the IRA is pretty much

1005
01:13:07,079 --> 01:13:10,079
completely a British intelligence control type of thing.

1006
01:13:10,119 --> 01:13:20,159
Speaker 6: Almost by that time, the security forces had found a

1007
01:13:20,279 --> 01:13:25,960
way to penetrate the IRA in East Trone surveillance was key.

1008
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:32,239
This is actual footage from secret Army cameras used to

1009
01:13:32,359 --> 01:13:37,319
monitor IRA suspects in Trone several years after lock All.

1010
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:43,560
These pictures have never been shown on television before. The

1011
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:47,640
IRA unit that attacked lock All was under the same

1012
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:55,079
kind of surveillance weeks before the ambush. By April nineteen

1013
01:13:55,119 --> 01:13:59,199
eighty seven, the police knew the IRA was planning to

1014
01:13:59,319 --> 01:14:05,680
attack a police station. What's more, at least ten days beforehand,

1015
01:14:06,159 --> 01:14:09,359
they knew the intended target was lock All.

1016
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 2: How do they know?

1017
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,239
Speaker 1: How did they know? Why?

1018
01:14:16,319 --> 01:14:19,079
Speaker 2: They had a man on the inside. I've got arman

1019
01:14:19,239 --> 01:14:23,760
on the inside. His name is Freddy Scabatchi, the most

1020
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:33,680
Irish name ever, Freddy Scabatichi Irish Italy, little little Ireland

1021
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:34,319
you see.

1022
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:40,039
Speaker 4: In the Northern Ireland conflict. Spire was a very dangerous game.

1023
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:50,359
The iras chief interrogator explains how he extracted confessions from

1024
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:57,399
informers before they were shots distructed a debugging to see whatever,

1025
01:14:59,039 --> 01:15:03,640
except that for years the interrogator was himself one of

1026
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,239
Britain's most important spies.

1027
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 1: There you go. The IRA's chief interrogator to root out

1028
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:22,000
British spies was a British spak and his name is

1029
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:30,439
Freddy Skapatchi of all things. So now this is a

1030
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:37,279
documentary just on Freddy Scapatici, aka code named steak Knife.

1031
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,760
Not steak like a state, but s T a k E.

1032
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:44,720
So it's a play on words. But here's the full

1033
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:48,279
documentary on Freddy Steak Knife. If you want to watch that,

1034
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:50,960
I'm not We're not going to watch this whole documentary.

1035
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:52,600
It is good and worth watching if you want to

1036
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:57,960
go deeper down this rabbit hole. But this BBC piece

1037
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:00,119
is kind of passing over it.

1038
01:16:00,239 --> 01:16:13,239
Speaker 6: In a quicker summation, the IRA lost a generation of

1039
01:16:13,319 --> 01:16:16,000
their men in the local ambush.

1040
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 1: Local ambush, and how do they do it? Well, I'm

1041
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:22,680
gonna tell you so that you don't I think BBC

1042
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:26,600
will block anything that you play, so hopefully this won't

1043
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,840
get like blocked or whatever. But if it does, I'll

1044
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:34,119
download it and then I don't know, I have to

1045
01:16:34,239 --> 01:16:36,319
edit out certain parts or something, or I'll just make

1046
01:16:36,359 --> 01:16:38,560
it for members. Actually this is going to be members anyway,

1047
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:40,159
but I don't know. I don't know if YouTube will

1048
01:16:40,159 --> 01:16:41,720
allow me to keep this up for members if I

1049
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:47,680
play too much BBC stuff. Anyway, Long story short, Freddie

1050
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:51,920
Scapatici and like three other of the top dudes are

1051
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,840
all British spies. Basically they're all working for British intelligence.

1052
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:59,199
And Scott Patchi got his beginning as a police informant

1053
01:17:00,199 --> 01:17:02,359
working with the local police to inform on the IRA.

1054
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:05,640
And he'd been in the IRA for like ever and

1055
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:09,880
all the way to being their top interrogator slash assassin

1056
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:17,800
and supposedly he had killed nineteen people. And the way

1057
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:19,960
the IRA would would do it is through is is

1058
01:17:20,039 --> 01:17:23,000
just execution style, So they just pop in the back

1059
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:24,239
of the head and they drop you off in a field.

1060
01:17:24,319 --> 01:17:29,159
That's it. So he was up at the top, I

1061
01:17:29,199 --> 01:17:34,079
guess next to McGinnis or whoever, the guy Adams and McGinnis,

1062
01:17:34,119 --> 01:17:36,279
these different characters that ran the RA throughout the eighties

1063
01:17:36,279 --> 01:17:41,920
and nineties, and basically all of these infiltrators and foremants provocateurs,

1064
01:17:42,039 --> 01:17:45,560
they're basically running the whole thing and it fizzles out

1065
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:49,520
and it's done by the nineties, which is interesting too

1066
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:58,760
because all the way up into the nineties, classic CIA

1067
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:06,520
americanist propanda with Harrison Ford from Tom Clancy was scaring

1068
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:11,279
Americans about the IRA as this real international t e

1069
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:13,720
r R O R threat. Yes you heard me right.

1070
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:18,319
Uh your boy Sean Bean okay, Seeing Bean is over

1071
01:18:18,359 --> 01:18:26,640
here playing the ultimate IRA parish in Patriot Games, and

1072
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:32,159
of course CIA hero Jack Ryan played by Harrison Ford

1073
01:18:32,279 --> 01:18:36,239
saves us from Sean Bean because the IRA is going

1074
01:18:36,319 --> 01:18:40,760
to kidnap kids and hold him for ransom. It's so stupid,

1075
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:42,920
Like I mean, when you know a lot of this

1076
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:47,439
stuff nowadays and you go back and watch for uh,

1077
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:51,840
like the propaganda of the eighties and nineties, It's like, dude,

1078
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:55,520
who how did anybody believe this? Yes, thank you, by

1079
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:58,800
the way, Dethrow for pointing out that the us AI

1080
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:04,119
d U tax money millions of dollars went into the BBC.

1081
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:12,239
So great point. Anyway, So here is this other documentary

1082
01:19:13,199 --> 01:19:17,399
if you want to watch this right here on the IRA.

1083
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:20,199
I cat from the time I woke up because there

1084
01:19:20,279 --> 01:19:22,600
was a question on Twitter from one of our Twitter

1085
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:26,119
followers shout out to Big Boss, and he was asking

1086
01:19:26,159 --> 01:19:27,720
me all these IRA questions, and I'm like, you know,

1087
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:29,439
I actually don't know that much about the IRA. All

1088
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:32,680
I've done today the entire day, all I did was

1089
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:37,239
watch IRA documentaries and BBC and History and I even

1090
01:19:37,319 --> 01:19:41,920
watched like a socialist guy's hour and a half documentary

1091
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:48,399
on the IRA. But to get to that last point

1092
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:55,159
before we turn to the Serbia topic is if you

1093
01:19:55,239 --> 01:19:58,239
remember Lord Voldemort and I don't remember who he had

1094
01:19:58,319 --> 01:20:06,479
on but it is essentially admitted. This is the Guardian again,

1095
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,600
this isn't This is multiple articles in the Guardian, So

1096
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:14,199
I'm not I don't really trust this website. Sought dot net.

1097
01:20:15,319 --> 01:20:17,079
They have some good stuff, that's got a lot of

1098
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:22,279
goofy stuff. However, the reason I trust this article is

1099
01:20:22,359 --> 01:20:25,479
that most of the citations are actually from mainstream media,

1100
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:29,159
so and yes, the Guardian is like ultimate mainstream media.

1101
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:34,880
Here is the full link to this article and it

1102
01:20:35,279 --> 01:20:37,880
is actually discussing a lot of the stuff that we

1103
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:41,840
talked about today and just now with Freddie Scapatici the

1104
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:45,479
eighties and the nineties and his role as an informant

1105
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:47,840
and a British spy. And I'll read you a little

1106
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:52,239
bit of it says. In two thousand and three, senior

1107
01:20:52,279 --> 01:20:54,600
officials in the Irish Police were accused of ignoring a

1108
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:59,760
clear warning about the Omagh bomb atrocity to protect a

1109
01:21:00,279 --> 01:21:03,239
IRA informant. The b o NB was allowed to go

1110
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:08,039
off to preserve so and so's role in the t

1111
01:21:08,199 --> 01:21:10,720
E R R o R. Now wait a minute. So

1112
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:16,279
the establishment, the police and British intelligence have their agents

1113
01:21:18,199 --> 01:21:21,199
helping things pop off, allowing it to pop off,