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<v Speaker 2>We hope to see you there soon. West Tigers Podcast

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<v Speaker 2>Episode number four hundred and nine, joined by Steven Deklan

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<v Speaker 2>on a Thursday night, Steve, we're a little bit we've

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<v Speaker 2>been caught on the hop a bit. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>we've had a Friday night game this year, which is

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<v Speaker 2>suited the podcast teams, because if ever we couldn't get

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<v Speaker 2>organized on a Wednesday, we had a bit of time

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<v Speaker 2>up our sleeve, but not this week.

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<v Speaker 3>Now we've got eight o'clock Friday night, we've got the

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<v Speaker 3>we've got the Brisbane Broncos timeslot. So I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>why they're not playing. They must have requested it. But Jeromes,

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<v Speaker 3>Jerome's in apparently he's he's going to be playing, so

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<v Speaker 3>it's all all systems go for an upsit against Canberra.

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<v Speaker 2>They've probably got a buy, Steve. That's probably why they're

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<v Speaker 2>not on Friday at day that would be right, I'd say, yeah, Jacklin,

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<v Speaker 2>I really you know, I've got my theories on different things.

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<v Speaker 2>But Friday eight pm I hate that time slot because

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<v Speaker 2>if we lose in a nail biter, it's just going

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<v Speaker 2>to put me in a horrible mood all weekend, at

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<v Speaker 2>least Sunday, you know, the good part of the weekends

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<v Speaker 2>almost over. So you depressed on Monday anyway, that's my theory.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know. I'm the opposite.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like there's something really depressing, but weeke it

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<v Speaker 5>up on a Monday morning after getting flogged and then

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<v Speaker 5>just that one second where you wake up and you

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<v Speaker 5>remember what happened the night before.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't know. I think I'd rather just get

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<v Speaker 4>to for a dune Worth.

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<v Speaker 5>Earlier in the week weekend and then just recover on

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<v Speaker 5>the Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, we'll preview the game, we'll do rdies quiz and

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of chat just from some feedback from

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<v Speaker 2>our podcast forum listeners about the crossover pods we did

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<v Speaker 2>in the last week or so. But first, Steve one

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<v Speaker 2>word for State of Origin last night.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, as usual, I can't stick to one words I've

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<v Speaker 3>got I've got two one. My first word, I've toned

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<v Speaker 3>it back. I was going to say manufactured, but I've

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<v Speaker 3>turned that, turned that down a little bit and said

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<v Speaker 3>over officiated. You know, I just love Origin games when

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<v Speaker 3>there's three or four penalties and the players are let

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<v Speaker 3>play the game and they decide the game. And I

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<v Speaker 3>just felt that was so over officiated last night.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's one word.

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<v Speaker 3>But the other one is in a smoke bugbear about

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<v Speaker 3>Origin and the football season in general, and it's just

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<v Speaker 3>drawn out. It's just on it every year. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>sign that the nrow competition. And I'm only speaking from

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<v Speaker 3>my own perspective, I just love the narrow competition. That's

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<v Speaker 3>that's what I enjoy watching. And this just takes over

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<v Speaker 3>and occupies all their space for far too long, in

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<v Speaker 3>my opinion.

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<v Speaker 6>Decline your word.

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<v Speaker 5>I just missed opportunity because I actually can't believes lost

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<v Speaker 5>that one.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean like to like to tell the views.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't watch the second half because I was just

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<v Speaker 5>kind of over after the first and I went to

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<v Speaker 5>bed early. So I'm not going to pretend like I

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<v Speaker 5>was an expert on the whole game, but just watching

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<v Speaker 5>that first half just how like ill discipline news help

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<v Speaker 5>folds were and just like they scored the first try,

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<v Speaker 5>they look like they were going to go on with

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<v Speaker 5>it and then just drop ball. Ill disciplined. Yes, like

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<v Speaker 5>the rest. Obviously there was an element of the like

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<v Speaker 5>being a little bit of pedantic, but I just thought

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<v Speaker 5>the news it was really were massive opportunity to to

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<v Speaker 5>seal it.

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<v Speaker 4>But what can you do?

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<v Speaker 5>And then you also found it was terrible. That really

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<v Speaker 5>annoyed me see him out there knowing that, like he

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<v Speaker 5>got picked on a trail made, But yeah, what can

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<v Speaker 5>you do?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Steve, you know I'm a positive guy, So my

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<v Speaker 2>word was just trash. I thought it was trash. The

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<v Speaker 2>whole build up was nothing except for Billy Slater throwing

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<v Speaker 2>a tantrum, which was bizarre. I thought the refereeing was

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<v Speaker 2>awful and I thought it was manufactured. I think every team,

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<v Speaker 2>Steve that's down one Nill, you'll findal win the penalty

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<v Speaker 2>cout in a big way, because that's what the NRL want,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what I would want if I was running

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<v Speaker 2>the NRL. You wanted the cider. Otherwise you've got a

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<v Speaker 2>dead rubber in three weeks time and you've got to

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<v Speaker 2>try and build that up. Good luck with that, you know, any.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the build up. It's getting close at each time

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<v Speaker 3>to a boxing build up, you know, where you just

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<v Speaker 3>get these ridiculous barbs thrown across, you know, at each

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<v Speaker 3>of us, just to try to hype up the fight

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<v Speaker 3>and get the pay per views in. And it's starting

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<v Speaker 3>to get a little bit like that, you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>like if Billy Slater is so emotional just to need

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<v Speaker 3>to say what he said about a comment that was

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<v Speaker 3>nothing really, you know, coll when someone had grabbed me

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<v Speaker 3>a big deal, but then to stage it at the

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<v Speaker 3>official press conference on the eve of the game, it

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<v Speaker 3>just stunk of. I don't know, I'll go back to

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<v Speaker 3>my first word, manufactured.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I haven't finished with my trash Steve. I've

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<v Speaker 2>got through the build up and the referee, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>also going to go both teams. I thought like New

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<v Speaker 2>South Wales were poor like that game. They've got a

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<v Speaker 2>far better side and obviously I think didn't help, but

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<v Speaker 2>they also contributed to that that ten to one penalty count.

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<v Speaker 2>But Queensland, like, what would you be thinking you win

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<v Speaker 2>a penalty count ten to one and you've got outscored

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<v Speaker 2>the only reason they won is because Zach Lomax couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>kick a dog like I just thought they will get

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely lapped in game three decline. I know there's the

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<v Speaker 2>pressure of a game three. I don't even care to

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<v Speaker 2>be honest, but I just think New South Wales are

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<v Speaker 2>so superior and they were so far from their best one.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean it's crazy, isn't it. And that's kind of

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<v Speaker 5>when you go into a game two. The motivation for

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<v Speaker 5>the team that lost game one is always so much

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<v Speaker 5>higher than the team that kind of has that safety

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<v Speaker 5>in it, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just like, I'm not a bit different to everyone here.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I actually do care about the origin. Do

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<v Speaker 5>I think anyone else is a particular bugs fan of

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<v Speaker 5>the Blazes here, But I do get invested in it,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm probably I'm a little bit nervous for game three,

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<v Speaker 5>but I think that's only because you know, we've like

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<v Speaker 5>we've been here before, we've lost those deciders and New

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<v Speaker 5>Sephos as well. But I do agree with you, Eddie.

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<v Speaker 5>I just think that like New Sefway was on paper,

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<v Speaker 5>its just so much better. And if everyone's really fat

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<v Speaker 5>there is like, really no excuse they should be winning

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<v Speaker 5>the series. It should have it should have been a whitewash,

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<v Speaker 5>to be honest, if all things are equal. But we

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<v Speaker 5>are where we are well because.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a pretty Gary's not with us tonight because he

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<v Speaker 3>cares about origin probably as much as you do, a

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<v Speaker 3>lot more than any and it's a pity he's not

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<v Speaker 3>on the pod with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Funny you say that, Steve, I was just quite ironic

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<v Speaker 2>because I was mentioning five minutes ago Gary that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the POD's getting a little bit unprofessional, and we've been

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<v Speaker 2>caught out by the fact it's a Monday game and

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<v Speaker 2>we haven't released anything until Thursday night. And now you're

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<v Speaker 2>taking another step further by joining in ten minutes into

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<v Speaker 2>a podcast. Do you think that's acceptable? I'm not well.

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<v Speaker 7>You guys always complain about me not giving you any

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<v Speaker 7>space to talk. I thought i'd give you the first

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<v Speaker 7>ten minutes and Steve could stop complaining about me talking too.

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<v Speaker 3>Much any before before you while we're talking professionalists, Can

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<v Speaker 3>I just give a shout out to Nick because I

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<v Speaker 3>think we're out contractually obliged to give a shout out

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<v Speaker 3>to Nick because they've.

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<v Speaker 6>Got to be mentioned in every pod.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there was a lot of complaining on social media

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<v Speaker 3>that he wasn't mentioned, which worried me until I realized

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<v Speaker 3>it was all Nick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'm not a big Twitter man, but I have

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<v Speaker 2>managed to sign up under an alias account the past

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<v Speaker 2>few days. I'm like, Gary, I'm like what I used

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<v Speaker 2>to do with Dan Laurie and that I'm stalking people

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<v Speaker 2>on Twitter now and just you know, seeing what they

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<v Speaker 2>say behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 6>From what I've seen, it's only you stalking Robert Sharyl

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<v Speaker 6>though I think you guys are the best mates. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Alrighty leu eyes performance declan very hot in cold obviously

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<v Speaker 2>put the first kick on the fall. I know you

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<v Speaker 2>only watched the first half, but I guess the relief

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<v Speaker 2>for Tigers fans is he didn't. He might have got charged,

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<v Speaker 2>but there was It wasn't much in that hands in

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<v Speaker 2>the face that happens every game.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I think the opposite for you, And you know, I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>usually defend Lo and these sorts of situations on the pod,

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<v Speaker 5>but I was human out of them because I thought

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<v Speaker 5>could have come down hyder on that.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think he actually I gauged them, but I think.

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<v Speaker 5>He gave every opportunity for then are able to charge

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<v Speaker 5>them with something like that. So I just thought it

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<v Speaker 5>was it was terribly dumb, like it just came out

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<v Speaker 5>of nowhere. It was so unnecessary, and I'm sure he

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<v Speaker 5>was thing about is tame of when he did it,

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<v Speaker 5>for he was like with the but just it would

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<v Speaker 5>have just been an absolute disaster if you got robbed

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<v Speaker 5>out for a few weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>For I goas and when our.

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<v Speaker 5>Season is just like on the lane, you need your

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<v Speaker 5>captain to be smarter than that, and you know, like, yes,

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<v Speaker 5>he has that kind of guy who pushes that to

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<v Speaker 5>the edge. But that was just all and unnecessary and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm actually a little bit surprised that he wasn't suspended

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<v Speaker 5>for it.

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<v Speaker 2>His short kicking game, Steve is elite. We've seen that

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<v Speaker 2>in the past of Penrith and this year for us.

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<v Speaker 2>But the two tries he set up were so deaf,

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<v Speaker 2>those little short kicks, and I thought he looked good

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<v Speaker 2>on that left hand side, looked really dangerous. He had

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<v Speaker 2>some poor moments in the slippery conditions, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>he's in pretty good nick.

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<v Speaker 3>I think a bloke who plays the way Jerome Lew

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<v Speaker 3>likes to play is going to have some errors in

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<v Speaker 3>a game, you know where it's pelting down with rain

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<v Speaker 3>the way it was. Also the Queensland line speed was

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<v Speaker 3>pretty exceptional for a lot of things, especially in the

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<v Speaker 3>first half anyway, which put him under a lot of pressure.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought he, you know, he played fairly well. As

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<v Speaker 3>you see. He did some great things. He had two

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<v Speaker 3>try assists, he was heavily involved, but he also had

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<v Speaker 3>some Jerome Lulo moments where he tried to do his

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<v Speaker 3>own thing and nothing came of it. And it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>look real flash when that happens. But that's just the

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to play tomorrow night. Gary, Isn't he like

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<v Speaker 2>he's too stubborn. I haven't heard Benji's press commence today,

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<v Speaker 2>but apparently pretty much said, I'm getting on a flight

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<v Speaker 2>regardless coach, I'm playing.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I've only seen written what Bendrick said, and he

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<v Speaker 6>I'm good to go. I'm in.

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<v Speaker 7>So I don't think there's any doubt that he'll be

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<v Speaker 7>playing tomorrow. I thought he was pretty good in that

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<v Speaker 7>second half last night. I agree that first half I

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<v Speaker 7>he made cop a suspension from that, I Gougers declan

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<v Speaker 7>was that was concern for me. But he had involvement

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<v Speaker 7>in all those tries. It may not have been the

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<v Speaker 7>last past, but that left edge for New South Wales

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<v Speaker 7>great last night, and a lot of that was was

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<v Speaker 7>Jerome being out there. So the two triss were fantastic. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>up and down game, but I thought he played pretty

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<v Speaker 7>well towards the end.

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<v Speaker 4>It's always interested in the backup question.

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<v Speaker 5>I've always heard that players say that it's actually easier

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<v Speaker 5>to back up immediately after origin and the first like

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<v Speaker 5>two or three days as opposed to like play it

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<v Speaker 5>on the Sunday. So yeah, maybe that's the reason why.

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<v Speaker 5>Like he's pretty confident that he can back up because

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<v Speaker 5>it's stull like fresh in terms of his recovery. So

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<v Speaker 5>it will be interesting to see.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I wouldn't have had any doubts at all about him

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<v Speaker 7>backing up. The only thing is that game was in Perth,

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<v Speaker 7>so it's a what five hour flight back for five

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<v Speaker 7>hour flight back from Perth, and I thought maybe that

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<v Speaker 7>would be enough to kind of rule him out. But

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<v Speaker 7>obviously I don't think it's going to be and by

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<v Speaker 7>expect him to play tomorrow night, and we need him

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<v Speaker 7>to play for morow night.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw Penrith play in the what in Auckland, So

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they've just got not going to care about Penrith,

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<v Speaker 2>but they've been completely stiff. What's that an eight or

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<v Speaker 2>ten hour flight from Perth over to Augward. Crazy scheduling.

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<v Speaker 6>I thought I heard this afternoon that the Panda players

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<v Speaker 6>aren't even going over they.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't physically get there.

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Gary mentioned my new friend Rob. I mean, we've

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<v Speaker 2>always been friends, Gary, me and Rob. It's just took

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<v Speaker 2>him a couple of years to come on because you

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<v Speaker 2>and him had a feud or it was your your feud.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I think it was Rob's dued with me. I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know. I'm a nice guy. I don't have few,

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<v Speaker 6>if anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>A few comments on our last pod, Steve on Sunday

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<v Speaker 2>night you were on it, Rusty sixty three said, just

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<v Speaker 2>paraphrasing some of these, good to see you guys spreading

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<v Speaker 2>the love. He agreed with Steve the fact that he

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<v Speaker 2>thinks our next seven games the boys will use it

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<v Speaker 2>as a bit of an opportunity for a reset and

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<v Speaker 2>actually get some wins and stay in contention. The numerator said,

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<v Speaker 2>really good listen, guys, Skip A thirteen really enjoyed the

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<v Speaker 2>dynam between the boys. Did you hear that, Gary?

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<v Speaker 6>No, sorry, I wasn't listening.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a little bit. He wasn't sure about Josh

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<v Speaker 2>Kerr and Adam Elliot being dream signings from Rob. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure if Rob's dream signings. Steve certainly made a

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<v Speaker 2>dream signing with Payne HEAs Camberra Tiger said, really good,

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<v Speaker 2>pob nice to see the crossover, Lorenzo said, any chance

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<v Speaker 2>consolidated pod going further? He said, I actually hope not,

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<v Speaker 2>as I liked the additional content. Nice distraction when I'm

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<v Speaker 2>at the gym and during car drives. But yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 2>certainly thinking about content. Guys. There may be any less

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<v Speaker 2>content going further from both pods, but Steve, nice to

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<v Speaker 2>see a few positive comments in there. No snake or

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<v Speaker 2>something calling a soft that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, yes, Snake had a real a couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 6>AG know it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was great, I think with Rob joined us the

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<v Speaker 3>other night and then you and Gary joining their pod

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<v Speaker 3>later in the week. It was a good thing, and

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<v Speaker 3>maybe over time we can do a little bit more

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<v Speaker 3>of that. At the end of the day, real West

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<v Speaker 3>Tigers supporters, we all want the same thing. We all

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<v Speaker 3>want to talk West Tigers. We all want to see

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<v Speaker 3>the West Tigers do well. And so if we can

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<v Speaker 3>play our part and come together and be a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit more united and give a little bit more content

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<v Speaker 3>out there for people to enjoy, that's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say, though, I reckon that team. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>to have the two original members in Eddie and Joel

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<v Speaker 3>there and then the rookie in Rob and then the

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<v Speaker 3>people's choice in myself, I think we've stumbled on possibly

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<v Speaker 3>the best team ever.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of shots by there declan, they returned the

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<v Speaker 2>favorite schooes and we jumped on the West Tiger's life

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<v Speaker 2>pot and they did a draft. I'm not sure if

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<v Speaker 2>you're a fan of American sports, but it's pretty interesting

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<v Speaker 2>try to pick two different West Tigers team. But I've

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<v Speaker 2>got a slightly different question for you and the boys

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<v Speaker 2>best five West Tigers players of all time if you

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<v Speaker 2>had to rank them from five to one. I know

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<v Speaker 2>you're a lot younger than us, so didn't see the

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<v Speaker 2>best part of the first decade. But I know you're

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<v Speaker 2>aware of some of our great this players if you've

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<v Speaker 2>got an order there.

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<v Speaker 5>So from like five to one, yeah, okay, so I

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<v Speaker 5>think good prayer.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to do no, I can do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Five.

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<v Speaker 5>So obviously, like number one, that's like pretty easy. I

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<v Speaker 5>think that's Benji Marshall. That's probably gonna be everyone's consensus

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<v Speaker 5>number one, Number two Robbie Farr a close second, and

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<v Speaker 5>number three Clive Heard Clive Church of medal winner Scott Prince,

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<v Speaker 5>winning half back, captain of apprenticeship winning team, number number three,

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<v Speaker 5>number four, and five, I think like we all might

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<v Speaker 5>have different ones, but I'm going to stick with who

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<v Speaker 5>like I saw when I first moved here, and who

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<v Speaker 5>like has made the biggest and pressures me. I will

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<v Speaker 5>go Gareth Ellis number four because I just thought he

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<v Speaker 5>was sensational and like, probably haven't had someone like that

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<v Speaker 5>like since he's left, even though the game's obviously different now.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, and then.

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<v Speaker 5>Number five, I'm gonna go we are safe and save

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<v Speaker 5>someone like.

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<v Speaker 4>Joins Gondala's just a club legend just to be said

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<v Speaker 4>that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Gary at no point really repeating what declan said,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the first four could be fairly unanimous. Five

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<v Speaker 2>maybe is the one that's up in the air. What

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<v Speaker 2>do you got?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I'm exactly the same as stick one on the

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<v Speaker 7>first four, but number five I would be going and

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<v Speaker 7>Robert scha will love this. Retcondson, I think he's on

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<v Speaker 7>our top five best players ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Fine with out order. Gary Prince at.

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<v Speaker 6>Three, exactly No, I'm the same as Steclan Steve, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly the same. The only difference is the order. I

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<v Speaker 3>got Benji and Robbie at one and two. I just

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<v Speaker 3>pok Gareth Ellis at three. The only reason he got

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<v Speaker 3>aad of Scott Prince, you know by Whiska, is really

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<v Speaker 3>because he was just so impactful. I know he didn't

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<v Speaker 3>win a petition with this, but he just we didn't

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<v Speaker 3>carry the forward pack, but he led the forward pack consistently.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just put him as our third that he

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<v Speaker 3>was my number three choice.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't been following the votes Gary, of the two

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<v Speaker 2>sides we put up, but I thought I thought we

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<v Speaker 2>got the chocolates comfortably to have Scott Prince at halfback

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<v Speaker 2>and Lewie No offense to Robert Louis, But I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if he's in the same class as those two boys.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I thought ours was far and away the best team,

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<v Speaker 7>despite what most people here had as a top two players.

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<v Speaker 7>We made a decision to not really go after Benji

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<v Speaker 7>and Robin Farrett because there are some guys there who

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<v Speaker 7>do a really good job. So I think that was

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<v Speaker 7>probably a strong strategic move that we made and I

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<v Speaker 7>think our side was better.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, venice to the West Life boys. They did have,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to Desco Benji, Gareth Ellis has some great players.

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<v Speaker 2>Declan Under nine Ams Origin tonight. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>I'll bother tuning in, but I might watch the first

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<v Speaker 2>ten minuts. You sort of love these sort of games,

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<v Speaker 2>don't you. The young fellas coming through, luke Li Lily

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<v Speaker 2>starting on the wing. He's the only player selected. Apparently

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<v Speaker 2>that's made his inner roldaboot. I don't know if that's

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<v Speaker 2>just for New South Wales off for both teams, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's a bit unusual. I know in the past has

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<v Speaker 2>been a few and Macassini is the eight eighth man,

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<v Speaker 2>so unfortunately, unless he goes out and stomps on someone's

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<v Speaker 2>foot in the warm up, we won't be seeing him tonight.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I was really disappointed that he was eighteenth man.

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<v Speaker 5>I just assumed he would start who was needing the squad.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see Looke playing

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<v Speaker 5>his age grip, isn't it, Because you know, he came

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<v Speaker 5>into fourth grade so young, kind of surprisingly for a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of it look pretty good to start with, but

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to be really interested to see what he

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<v Speaker 5>looks like an edge grip footy and by all the case,

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<v Speaker 5>doing really really well in this Colds Cup, so that's

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<v Speaker 5>going to be interested to see. I'm hoping that he

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<v Speaker 5>can find his way back into the fifth grade team

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<v Speaker 5>at some point in this season because I think he's

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<v Speaker 5>got a lot took. But then, like obviously nor in

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<v Speaker 5>West Tiger's related, I think seeing that Mitch Woods and

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<v Speaker 5>that Toby Rodwell, like Woods obviously from the Billdogs and

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<v Speaker 5>then Rodville from the Risters, that they've come through with

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<v Speaker 5>like huge raps on them.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'll be.

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<v Speaker 5>Interested to see how they jel, especially like Woods because

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<v Speaker 5>there's so much we've talked about him with the Galvin piece,

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<v Speaker 5>so it's gonna be interesting to see how he kind

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<v Speaker 5>of sets him to that system going forward.

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<v Speaker 4>So Yeah, keen of Sey.

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<v Speaker 5>These games are always interesting because like there's death, like

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<v Speaker 5>no matter what, there's always a few players that you look,

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<v Speaker 5>you jump in time a few years and they're playing

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<v Speaker 5>either origin or like pushing down the door of origin.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's just good to see them at this stage

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<v Speaker 5>of their careers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, mac Issying actually only the only seventeen year old

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<v Speaker 2>in the whole squad, even though he's not playing, so

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<v Speaker 2>you can see that he's got some boom on him.

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<v Speaker 2>But Steve, we've been it's interesting. We've been talking a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of them this year about building a squad and

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<v Speaker 2>the fact we don't have a lot of depth. But

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<v Speaker 2>you forget how young sort of some of these guys,

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<v Speaker 2>even Lukela Lily if him and Macasin he turned out

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<v Speaker 2>to be really good outside backs. There's a first choice

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<v Speaker 2>winger and a first choice center. So maybe we are

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<v Speaker 2>building some depth, but it might just be a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years away.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's right. We've discussed this a number

425
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<v Speaker 3>of times on the problem. You know, one minute, we

426
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<v Speaker 3>sort of the pendulum sort of swings both ways. You know,

427
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<v Speaker 3>we one minute we're saying we've got we've got nothing,

428
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<v Speaker 3>and we need to go out and buy a whole

429
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<v Speaker 3>heap of players, and then when you have a real

430
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<v Speaker 3>think about and have a look at it, you look

431
00:20:32.960 --> 00:20:34.839
<v Speaker 3>at our current squad and you think, you know, it's

432
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<v Speaker 3>not that far away. And if a couple of these

433
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<v Speaker 3>guys do come through, like it's all we've been saying

434
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<v Speaker 3>all year we need a center, and we do. But

435
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<v Speaker 3>if this Macasine he comes through, then maybe we're only

436
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<v Speaker 3>a year away. I didn't realize until you just said,

437
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<v Speaker 3>I didn't realize he was seventeen, So you know, I'm

438
00:20:51.799 --> 00:20:54.920
<v Speaker 3>actually hoping he doesn't get a run this year. I

439
00:20:54.960 --> 00:20:57.000
<v Speaker 3>hope we don't need him. I hope he can develop

440
00:20:57.039 --> 00:20:59.480
<v Speaker 3>his craft a little bit. But then next year maybe

441
00:20:59.480 --> 00:21:03.160
<v Speaker 3>he'll Next season he'll sort of break through and start

442
00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:07.480
<v Speaker 3>to show his presence in all age footy. But I'm

443
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<v Speaker 3>looking forward to watching the game tonight and also want

444
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<v Speaker 3>to just shout out to it if it's all right.

445
00:21:12.359 --> 00:21:15.200
<v Speaker 3>Ella Walker and Evey McGrath, who are from the club,

446
00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:18.839
<v Speaker 3>as all playing in NRLW nineties. As we're recording this.

447
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<v Speaker 2>Declar I think he should debut this year. Have you

448
00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:25.039
<v Speaker 2>seen the size of him? Like, I've got to be honest,

449
00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:27.480
<v Speaker 2>I've never seen him play a live game. I've seen

450
00:21:27.519 --> 00:21:30.640
<v Speaker 2>YouTube clips two minutes, so great, great stuff there from me.

451
00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:34.960
<v Speaker 2>But like he's got that is Ralph Alow sort of build,

452
00:21:35.039 --> 00:21:37.640
<v Speaker 2>Like he's filling out already. So I think if you're

453
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<v Speaker 2>going to debut an eighteen year old and you know

454
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<v Speaker 2>he's got the sort of build that might handle it,

455
00:21:42.720 --> 00:21:45.119
<v Speaker 2>it's more mental, you know, whether stepping up to the

456
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<v Speaker 2>NRL is the right thing to do this season.

457
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's crazy that I remember.

458
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<v Speaker 5>I think when we beat the Sharks at all, there

459
00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:56.519
<v Speaker 5>was a team photo and he was like obviously not playing,

460
00:21:56.559 --> 00:21:58.480
<v Speaker 5>but he was in like the team uniform and he

461
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<v Speaker 5>was actually better than everyone else team. And I think

462
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<v Speaker 5>there was an article that came out a few days

463
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<v Speaker 5>ago that said he's one hundred and eight kilos in

464
00:22:06.759 --> 00:22:10.079
<v Speaker 5>six foot four, so he's like pretty much like he's

465
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<v Speaker 5>bigger than me, right, So that just kind of shows

466
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<v Speaker 5>even though he's like seventeen years old, like he's probably

467
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<v Speaker 5>like physically like you could make an argument that he

468
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<v Speaker 5>might be ready for a first grade game, Like mentally,

469
00:22:23.119 --> 00:22:26.200
<v Speaker 5>I'm not sure, and he's playing school board rugby union

470
00:22:26.279 --> 00:22:28.799
<v Speaker 5>at the moment, so he's not even like playing regular

471
00:22:28.839 --> 00:22:30.680
<v Speaker 5>rugby league week in and week out, So you'd probably

472
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<v Speaker 5>think that like once his schoolboy commitments are over for Newington,

473
00:22:35.079 --> 00:22:39.480
<v Speaker 5>that he'll like play flag Cup maybe even and then

474
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<v Speaker 5>maybe like towards the very end of the year, he'll

475
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<v Speaker 5>play some first grade. But that article did seem to

476
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<v Speaker 5>suggest the club's pretty keen to give him some first

477
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<v Speaker 5>grade experience, because I think he's actually on like a

478
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<v Speaker 5>lot of money next season because he had lots of

479
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<v Speaker 5>offers from like Japanese rugby, from obviously it's Julian Rugby.

480
00:22:57.319 --> 00:22:59.720
<v Speaker 4>And then other NROLD clubs, so I think you'd be

481
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<v Speaker 4>on a fair bit of money.

482
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<v Speaker 5>So I can see them trying to fast track his

483
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<v Speaker 5>development like they did without that lily last year. In

484
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<v Speaker 5>terms of if he's ready, I think it's obviously difficult

485
00:23:09.240 --> 00:23:11.640
<v Speaker 5>to tell an age group footy because you know, he

486
00:23:11.680 --> 00:23:15.880
<v Speaker 5>has like significantly better or bigger as well than like

487
00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:19.720
<v Speaker 5>his opposition. But he's the thing that gives me confidence

488
00:23:19.759 --> 00:23:21.640
<v Speaker 5>is it wasn't just that he was bigger than everyone else.

489
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<v Speaker 4>He got a lot of skill as.

490
00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:26.359
<v Speaker 5>Well, like very good hands, soft hands, like quick pass,

491
00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:29.880
<v Speaker 5>could do really well to set up his finger on

492
00:23:29.920 --> 00:23:31.759
<v Speaker 5>that left side, and he's really good in the air

493
00:23:31.839 --> 00:23:34.480
<v Speaker 5>as well. So as you said, like very similarly Israel

494
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<v Speaker 5>flow Mode. I'm not sure if he's he's as fast

495
00:23:38.039 --> 00:23:41.359
<v Speaker 5>is Asrael Floil was, but he's definitely got like a

496
00:23:41.400 --> 00:23:43.640
<v Speaker 5>lot of similar attributes. And I'm actually a little bit

497
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<v Speaker 5>bummed he's not playing tonight, But what needed from me?

498
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<v Speaker 7>You're not going to hurt him by holding back till

499
00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:52.920
<v Speaker 7>next season. He turns out time in a month storm,

500
00:23:53.000 --> 00:23:54.960
<v Speaker 7>so he's still a month away from being a teen.

501
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<v Speaker 7>He's still a month away from being a lad to

502
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<v Speaker 7>playing the NR.

503
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<v Speaker 6>If we're if we're.

504
00:24:02.359 --> 00:24:05.839
<v Speaker 7>Doing well and there's not a need to play, then

505
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<v Speaker 7>I don't see the point of rushing and then just

506
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<v Speaker 7>get him a bit of experience, getting him into the

507
00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:15.319
<v Speaker 7>offseason training, getting into having a proper preseason, and see

508
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<v Speaker 7>where he is at the start of next year and

509
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<v Speaker 7>make a decision.

510
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<v Speaker 3>Then I just think there's something to be said, Like

511
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<v Speaker 3>like you mentioned earlier, Eddie that oh it might have

512
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<v Speaker 3>been New Decline, sorry that luke La Lilly is the

513
00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:32.319
<v Speaker 3>only one tonight who's actually played NRLL. So there's something,

514
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<v Speaker 3>there's something that other clubs believe who's right in holding

515
00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:37.119
<v Speaker 3>guys back a little bit, obviously, but I just want

516
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<v Speaker 3>to go back to the Harry Grant example. I don't know,

517
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<v Speaker 3>everyone's different and you can't judge everyone the same, but

518
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<v Speaker 3>I just believe Harry Grant is the player he is

519
00:24:46.839 --> 00:24:51.720
<v Speaker 3>today because he was brought through so well through the

520
00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:54.079
<v Speaker 3>Melbourne system and was held back a little bit and

521
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<v Speaker 3>he learned his craft and then when he came into

522
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<v Speaker 3>first grade, he was one hundred percent ready and then

523
00:24:59.319 --> 00:25:04.319
<v Speaker 3>just absolute kicked it. And I you know, I know

524
00:25:04.559 --> 00:25:07.359
<v Speaker 3>there's there's a theory out there that says if you're

525
00:25:07.400 --> 00:25:10.279
<v Speaker 3>good enough, you're old enough. And there's bloks who've forgotten

526
00:25:10.279 --> 00:25:13.359
<v Speaker 3>more about footy than I'll ever know that subscribe to that,

527
00:25:13.440 --> 00:25:16.440
<v Speaker 3>So there's probably something in that as well. But I

528
00:25:16.640 --> 00:25:19.880
<v Speaker 3>just think we can we can damage players by bringing

529
00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:23.240
<v Speaker 3>them in too early, you know, like you can even

530
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<v Speaker 3>use Galvin as an example.

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532
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I do think I do agree with that, Steve.

539
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<v Speaker 5>I think that Galvin has probably the perfect example of

540
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<v Speaker 5>someone we probably give the keys to too early, really

541
00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:04.559
<v Speaker 5>dead burners. But with Harry Grant, I think that's a

542
00:26:04.599 --> 00:26:07.359
<v Speaker 5>really unique situation because he happened to have like Cameron

543
00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:11.160
<v Speaker 5>Smith walk in his pathway, you know, the greatest player.

544
00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:14.279
<v Speaker 4>Of all time. But Macassin he has Adam Dewy in

545
00:26:14.359 --> 00:26:15.480
<v Speaker 4>his pathway.

546
00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:18.279
<v Speaker 5>So it's not exactly the same, you know, like path

547
00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:22.000
<v Speaker 5>to first grade. So I can imagine obviously, like like

548
00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:24.880
<v Speaker 5>when you're winning, as Gary said, if we're winning.

549
00:26:24.720 --> 00:26:26.640
<v Speaker 4>You know, and we're going to play finals pretty.

550
00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:29.759
<v Speaker 5>Then yeah, there would be no rush to to play them.

551
00:26:29.920 --> 00:26:32.559
<v Speaker 5>But when like you know, the team might be struggling,

552
00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:36.400
<v Speaker 5>there's an injury, I could see the temptation to kind

553
00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:38.519
<v Speaker 5>of hit two buchs with one stone, and then you know,

554
00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:41.640
<v Speaker 5>like what if he's like genuinely ready to play first

555
00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:43.640
<v Speaker 5>grade and like he can he can make a difference.

556
00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:47.000
<v Speaker 5>Because I remember Joseph so Leady, it's a very similar story,

557
00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:50.200
<v Speaker 5>like school boy Union prodigy, like played first grade for

558
00:26:50.200 --> 00:26:52.359
<v Speaker 5>the Wristles when he was in high school. So but

559
00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:54.960
<v Speaker 5>you know, I'm not fast through their way, to be honest,

560
00:26:55.039 --> 00:26:58.119
<v Speaker 5>but it would be a good story when it happens.

561
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<v Speaker 2>Interesting to buy. It's probably the stave you probably right,

562
00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:02.880
<v Speaker 2>be far more examples of you know, bringing in eighteen

563
00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:05.440
<v Speaker 2>year olds and burning him rather than helping him. But

564
00:27:05.519 --> 00:27:08.119
<v Speaker 2>I was I'm going to use a little loophole. You know,

565
00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:10.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm not allowed to mention Galvin, but you just mentioned him,

566
00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:14.319
<v Speaker 2>so I'm using a little loophole here. You said it

567
00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:17.440
<v Speaker 2>damaged him. Do you mean it damaged us as a

568
00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:19.839
<v Speaker 2>club because I look at him as a footballer and gone,

569
00:27:20.160 --> 00:27:21.799
<v Speaker 2>it hasn't hurt him.

570
00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:24.599
<v Speaker 3>Well, we don't know that yet. And he like he

571
00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:27.319
<v Speaker 3>might go on and be an absolute superstate. He probably

572
00:27:27.359 --> 00:27:30.000
<v Speaker 3>will be. You know, he's got a lot of natural ability.

573
00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:34.200
<v Speaker 3>But I think I think it has hurt him. I

574
00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:37.599
<v Speaker 3>think going to the club, I think he feels I

575
00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:40.039
<v Speaker 3>think he felt he was on the outer at our club.

576
00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:43.799
<v Speaker 3>And you know, watching him early on as he was

577
00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:47.160
<v Speaker 3>preparing to absolute start with Canterbury, he looked to be

578
00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:48.799
<v Speaker 3>trying really hard to get in with the crowd. He's

579
00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:50.720
<v Speaker 3>a bit on the outer And I don't know what

580
00:27:50.759 --> 00:27:54.039
<v Speaker 3>am I trying to say. I think it's probably damaged

581
00:27:54.079 --> 00:27:59.640
<v Speaker 3>him psychologically a little bit. Now Serrouto might just bring

582
00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:02.319
<v Speaker 3>out that the best in him, turning around feeling full

583
00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:06.480
<v Speaker 3>of confidence. He'll be fine, but it could knock him around.

584
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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to I'm trying to garry. I'm trying to

585
00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:10.680
<v Speaker 2>make the listeners hate me like they hate you by

586
00:28:10.720 --> 00:28:12.000
<v Speaker 2>mentioning Galvin every week.

587
00:28:13.440 --> 00:28:15.079
<v Speaker 6>I don't think you'll have to try too hard.

588
00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:19.519
<v Speaker 2>Camber Raiders Preview Boys, we play them tomorrow night, so

589
00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:23.119
<v Speaker 2>hopefully we'll get this potty out either late Thursday night

590
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:28.279
<v Speaker 2>or definitely early Friday morning. Declan. It's been more than

591
00:28:28.319 --> 00:28:30.720
<v Speaker 2>a Bogie side in the last six or seven years

592
00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:32.880
<v Speaker 2>or the sword of side that can run up big scores.

593
00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:35.480
<v Speaker 2>Although we did beat them forty eight to twenty four

594
00:28:35.559 --> 00:28:38.039
<v Speaker 2>at the same ground last year at Campbelltown, they've only

595
00:28:38.079 --> 00:28:41.920
<v Speaker 2>won seven from seventeen there. So is there any cause

596
00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:43.039
<v Speaker 2>for optimism here or not.

597
00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:48.160
<v Speaker 5>I just have a good feeling about this. Again, we

598
00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:52.079
<v Speaker 5>have some metal reinforcement coming back, and then I don't know,

599
00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:54.200
<v Speaker 5>the Reds, they're just like kind of cruising at the

600
00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:57.920
<v Speaker 5>moment in terms of Whens, So maybe we could just

601
00:28:58.039 --> 00:29:01.920
<v Speaker 5>jag them on an off night, on a cold, off

602
00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:05.440
<v Speaker 5>night at Campbelltown like we did last season. But they're

603
00:29:05.480 --> 00:29:07.240
<v Speaker 5>a really good team and I was looking at their

604
00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:10.160
<v Speaker 5>team lesson they have no injuries except for I think

605
00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:14.559
<v Speaker 5>Ricky stuart Son is coming in on the wing. So

606
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:18.119
<v Speaker 5>it's just incredible. The keep for like a really healthy

607
00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:20.640
<v Speaker 5>team like pretty much the entire season. So they're going

608
00:29:20.680 --> 00:29:23.880
<v Speaker 5>to be really difficult debate. But I think that if

609
00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:26.640
<v Speaker 5>we can play like we did against Penrith, I atink

610
00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:28.400
<v Speaker 5>we have a chance to beat in them. So I'm

611
00:29:28.440 --> 00:29:30.880
<v Speaker 5>optimistic in that regard. I'm not I probably wouldn't types

612
00:29:31.000 --> 00:29:34.400
<v Speaker 5>to win, but I think we should get close to them.

613
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<v Speaker 3>So Dick la mall right and saying your suggestion that

614
00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:40.319
<v Speaker 3>a cold night in Campbelltown is going to put Camber off,

615
00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:41.599
<v Speaker 3>is that? Is that what you're saying.

616
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:44.880
<v Speaker 4>I have been to Canberra.

617
00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:48.319
<v Speaker 5>I've actually been in Canberra Stadium, but they still have

618
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:52.079
<v Speaker 5>to travel, Steve, and you know fair enough.

619
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I won't, you know, Gary, I won't mention that

620
00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:57.720
<v Speaker 2>on Tuesday night I predicted it was going to be

621
00:29:57.759 --> 00:29:59.559
<v Speaker 2>a ten to one penalty count to Queens and I'm

622
00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:00.319
<v Speaker 2>not going to make to that.

623
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<v Speaker 6>You wouldn't mention something like that, would you.

624
00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:05.000
<v Speaker 2>But I will mention the fact that I thought this

625
00:30:05.039 --> 00:30:08.720
<v Speaker 2>could be a letdown spot for camera not because it's Cammebelltown,

626
00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:10.519
<v Speaker 2>because it's a cold they used to the cold and

627
00:30:10.519 --> 00:30:12.720
<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah. But they've had a lot of huge

628
00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:16.160
<v Speaker 2>occasions this year and big comeback wins or big wins

629
00:30:16.160 --> 00:30:19.240
<v Speaker 2>over sides they weren't meant to beat. And last year

630
00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:21.400
<v Speaker 2>they turned up at Cameltown and they weren't there from

631
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:23.480
<v Speaker 2>the first minute. So there's a little piece of me

632
00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:24.599
<v Speaker 2>that thinks that could happen.

633
00:30:25.960 --> 00:30:28.319
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I don't think it's for yond in the realms

634
00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:32.000
<v Speaker 7>of possibility. I was actually feeling quite confident until Lui

635
00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:35.960
<v Speaker 7>was selected to going to the new South oil side.

636
00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:38.359
<v Speaker 7>I thought if we had a nice strong week leading

637
00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:41.039
<v Speaker 7>into this game, that we could ambush them down there

638
00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:44.359
<v Speaker 7>and pull off an upset. No I being away for

639
00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:48.319
<v Speaker 7>the week and backing up has me a little bit

640
00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:52.200
<v Speaker 7>less confident about that. But Cameras had a fairly hard

641
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:54.440
<v Speaker 7>run to the start of their season.

642
00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:57.240
<v Speaker 6>Last week. Was there first buy for the season?

643
00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:00.440
<v Speaker 7>I think a lot of sides are shown that Rusty

644
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:02.880
<v Speaker 7>coming off a buye and I know where coming off

645
00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:04.799
<v Speaker 7>of buye as well, but it was our second buy

646
00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:09.920
<v Speaker 7>in about a month, and from what I saw, I

647
00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:12.920
<v Speaker 7>don't think we use that by how we have in

648
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:15.759
<v Speaker 7>the past, where we let players have the week off

649
00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:17.599
<v Speaker 7>and then you come back and hit the ground running again.

650
00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:20.200
<v Speaker 2>We've been awful coming off by his Gary in the

651
00:31:20.279 --> 00:31:21.119
<v Speaker 2>last few years it's been.

652
00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:23.920
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think this time we've used it as a

653
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:27.240
<v Speaker 7>working buy where we've kept training throughout and I think

654
00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:31.680
<v Speaker 7>that will put us in better stead going into into

655
00:31:31.880 --> 00:31:36.759
<v Speaker 7>tomorrow night's game. And well, I'm not that I'm not

656
00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:38.319
<v Speaker 7>going to sit here and say, oh, We're going to

657
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:41.200
<v Speaker 7>win this game, but it wouldn't surprise me if we

658
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:43.480
<v Speaker 7>could pull if Camera shows up and they're a little

659
00:31:43.519 --> 00:31:46.079
<v Speaker 7>bit off and we play like we did against Penrith,

660
00:31:46.160 --> 00:31:49.160
<v Speaker 7>that we can pull out an upset Declan.

661
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:52.480
<v Speaker 2>You mentioned Camera been virtually at full strength all year,

662
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:55.799
<v Speaker 2>Like we're pretty much a full strength year, aren't we.

663
00:31:55.799 --> 00:32:00.640
<v Speaker 5>Oh I suppose, well we're not Galvin anymore, but yeah,

664
00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:01.720
<v Speaker 5>I get what you mean in terms.

665
00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:03.039
<v Speaker 4>Of like everyone is still at the club.

666
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:07.400
<v Speaker 2>I like Twill and Twil and Paul are being inclusions

667
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:09.799
<v Speaker 2>for us, especially against that pack that's a strong pack.

668
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:13.799
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think that with Roy's hunt as well, kind

669
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:17.160
<v Speaker 5>of falling out of favor with Benji Marshall. I think

670
00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:22.559
<v Speaker 5>like those are like crucial inclusions, especially Pole, because it's

671
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:24.400
<v Speaker 5>just like he just adds when he's on, he just

672
00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:27.519
<v Speaker 5>adds that extra a little bit of X factor and

673
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:31.240
<v Speaker 5>then twelve is overs is super consistent. But yeah, I

674
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:34.160
<v Speaker 5>don't know, just something like it just seems like Canberra

675
00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:36.400
<v Speaker 5>it's one of those teams that like everything is just

676
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:38.960
<v Speaker 5>going so well for them this season and they're building

677
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:42.359
<v Speaker 5>in the finals nicely, and like they don't really seem

678
00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:44.480
<v Speaker 5>I know, they've got like a few Origin players.

679
00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:47.039
<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't say that they're.

680
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:49.920
<v Speaker 5>Terribly affected by Origin like other teams will, which stucks

681
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:52.799
<v Speaker 5>because usually we do get like either a Penrith or

682
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:55.400
<v Speaker 5>a storm or something like that during Origin when all

683
00:32:55.400 --> 00:32:56.240
<v Speaker 5>their players are gone.

684
00:32:56.279 --> 00:32:58.880
<v Speaker 4>But we haven't managed to get that this time. But

685
00:32:59.000 --> 00:32:59.480
<v Speaker 4>who knows.

686
00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:03.160
<v Speaker 5>It's going to be an interesting Hopefully. I'm hoping lat

687
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:07.759
<v Speaker 5>two gets a little bit more time and this game,

688
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:10.000
<v Speaker 5>because I thought when he came on against Penrith, we

689
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:12.000
<v Speaker 5>look so much better and I was a little bit

690
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:14.640
<v Speaker 5>surprised that he wasn't actually named to start. But with

691
00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:17.640
<v Speaker 5>the press conference, you're saying that he's still in a

692
00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:21.519
<v Speaker 5>minute's restraction, which is not ideal, but you know, like

693
00:33:21.599 --> 00:33:24.440
<v Speaker 5>he's clearly still coming back from injury, so hopefully he's mating,

694
00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:26.839
<v Speaker 5>you know, stands up. But yeah, it's going to be

695
00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:29.319
<v Speaker 5>a good test for us, and hopefully we can stay

696
00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:32.599
<v Speaker 5>competitive because they're a good team. Camera they've got a

697
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:34.559
<v Speaker 5>lot that They've got lots of different ways that they

698
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:36.319
<v Speaker 5>can be at you, So we're gonna have to be

699
00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:36.839
<v Speaker 5>on our game.

700
00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:38.759
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, definitely.

701
00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:41.559
<v Speaker 7>I thought when LA two went off against the Panthers,

702
00:33:41.559 --> 00:33:43.799
<v Speaker 7>we kind of lost their way a little bit, and

703
00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:47.400
<v Speaker 7>I thought, if he has stayed on that entire second half,

704
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:49.440
<v Speaker 7>I think we probably get away with that win because

705
00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:52.039
<v Speaker 7>I think he's that important to the why we play

706
00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:52.319
<v Speaker 7>the way.

707
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:53.599
<v Speaker 6>He stridens the attack.

708
00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:56.960
<v Speaker 7>I think, especially with Lua, who does have a habit

709
00:33:57.000 --> 00:33:59.440
<v Speaker 7>of creeping brus the field a little bit lats of

710
00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:04.200
<v Speaker 7>super in that role. So hopefully those minutes, even though

711
00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:07.240
<v Speaker 7>he's on a minute restriction, hopefully they're a little bit

712
00:34:07.319 --> 00:34:09.559
<v Speaker 7>more than they were last game, because I think.

713
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:13.119
<v Speaker 2>He's not a minute's restriction or is that implied by Benji?

714
00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:18.840
<v Speaker 7>Look when I saw the side announced on Tuesday. That

715
00:34:18.960 --> 00:34:22.119
<v Speaker 7>was my assumption straight away is that he's not starting

716
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:26.199
<v Speaker 7>because he can't play that eighty minutes yet. And there

717
00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:28.400
<v Speaker 7>was a comment today that came out from Benji that

718
00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:31.199
<v Speaker 7>he's going to get a real good opportunity soon. The

719
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:33.960
<v Speaker 7>only thing that's stopping that from coming now is that

720
00:34:34.519 --> 00:34:37.039
<v Speaker 7>his fitness, So I think they're just taking it easy

721
00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:37.400
<v Speaker 7>with him.

722
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:39.679
<v Speaker 6>I haven't seen that it was official. I Decon may

723
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:40.159
<v Speaker 6>have seen something.

724
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:42.239
<v Speaker 7>I've been at work all day, but I haven't seen

725
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:45.079
<v Speaker 7>Benji say that it was a minute restriction. But that's

726
00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:47.719
<v Speaker 7>what I'm assuming, and from Benji's comments that I have

727
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:50.280
<v Speaker 7>seen today, it sounds about right to me.

728
00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:51.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you just said.

729
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:53.599
<v Speaker 5>I read an article that was caught in for the

730
00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:56.800
<v Speaker 5>press conference that says he's like Stelen and Manut's retraction

731
00:34:56.880 --> 00:34:59.079
<v Speaker 5>and build enough, it's bett Nes And it just sucks

732
00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:03.239
<v Speaker 5>because I think, like Heath Mason, he's like clearly a

733
00:35:03.239 --> 00:35:04.599
<v Speaker 5>good player, and I think he's going to be a

734
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:06.679
<v Speaker 5>first grade player, but he is a little bit too

735
00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:09.639
<v Speaker 5>dimensional in the sense that he's a really good runner

736
00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:13.360
<v Speaker 5>of the ball. But that's kind of like his like

737
00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:15.440
<v Speaker 5>skill set at the moment. But with last two he

738
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:17.760
<v Speaker 5>just does so much to kind of straighten up the attack,

739
00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:20.079
<v Speaker 5>especially in the middle of the field, that then brings

740
00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:21.119
<v Speaker 5>out the best in Louie.

741
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:23.000
<v Speaker 4>Then I feel like we've got Louie and.

742
00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:25.800
<v Speaker 5>Mace and they're kind of just like the best at

743
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:28.920
<v Speaker 5>running the ball, and there's not much like setting up

744
00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:29.599
<v Speaker 5>for other people.

745
00:35:29.960 --> 00:35:33.440
<v Speaker 4>And I think, like, yes, when, like.

746
00:35:33.880 --> 00:35:36.280
<v Speaker 5>You know, obviously the highlight players, like all those tries

747
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:38.679
<v Speaker 5>against the Cowboys, it looks good, But then I just

748
00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:40.960
<v Speaker 5>think that, like what last Yer brings is so much

749
00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:43.400
<v Speaker 5>more through dimensional and like he just needs to start

750
00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:45.760
<v Speaker 5>the team as soon as possible in my opinion.

751
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:49.360
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, the other thing with Mysa and his defense was

752
00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:52.199
<v Speaker 7>pretty awful against the Papers, So as soon as we

753
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:54.400
<v Speaker 7>can get Lato in that role, it's going to be

754
00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:57.639
<v Speaker 7>best for the time. And it also it really allows

755
00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:01.199
<v Speaker 7>us to see whether how hard we need to go

756
00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:03.840
<v Speaker 7>after a half for next year. I really want him

757
00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:07.199
<v Speaker 7>to get a few games back to back so we

758
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:09.079
<v Speaker 7>can kind of get an idea of what we're going

759
00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:11.000
<v Speaker 7>to see next year and what we need to.

760
00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:11.719
<v Speaker 6>Do for next year.

761
00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:14.320
<v Speaker 2>Do you think his defense was awful Gary just because

762
00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:16.639
<v Speaker 2>he's undersized, or do you think it's technical thing because

763
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:19.079
<v Speaker 2>I heard mixed things after that game. Some people praised

764
00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:21.840
<v Speaker 2>him for his defense, but they he is He's going

765
00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:23.320
<v Speaker 2>to be a spot player, no doubt.

766
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:27.280
<v Speaker 7>Look, he has plenty of tickery, definitely has a go,

767
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:30.719
<v Speaker 7>But he's a young guy coming in the first grade,

768
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:34.360
<v Speaker 7>like he is another teenager, and he's just getting bumped

769
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:37.760
<v Speaker 7>off some tackles. He's missing some tackles, and I don't Yeah,

770
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:40.159
<v Speaker 7>I don't really hold it against him, but he is

771
00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:44.280
<v Speaker 7>very dangerous sniffing around the ruck and that footwork and

772
00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:47.639
<v Speaker 7>acceleration is a real key, and I think he'll actually

773
00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:51.000
<v Speaker 7>be a key against Camera. Camera is a pretty big

774
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:53.920
<v Speaker 7>forward pack, which is interesting because we're gone with a

775
00:36:53.960 --> 00:36:57.480
<v Speaker 7>fairly small bench. So I think our plan is going

776
00:36:57.480 --> 00:36:59.360
<v Speaker 7>to be to move those big forwards around and try

777
00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:02.360
<v Speaker 7>and tire them out. And a guy like Keith Mason

778
00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:05.000
<v Speaker 7>can really take advantage of that laid in the halves.

779
00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:09.360
<v Speaker 7>So yeah, I think your plan has to be the

780
00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:12.320
<v Speaker 7>tie those forwards, and I think Mason has a big

781
00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:15.440
<v Speaker 7>chance to yeah, great some havoc with them.

782
00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:18.800
<v Speaker 5>I think his goal, like his defense on the line

783
00:37:18.840 --> 00:37:21.679
<v Speaker 5>as well, was also a questionable, like he didn't directly

784
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:24.920
<v Speaker 5>mess any tackles that led to tries. But that I

785
00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:28.239
<v Speaker 5>think Jenkins scored a hat track on his said defensively

786
00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:30.639
<v Speaker 5>and you could tell that some of his smaller decisions

787
00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:34.360
<v Speaker 5>impacted everyone else, which then created a space for Jenkins

788
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:37.039
<v Speaker 5>to score. So that also worries me. I don't think

789
00:37:37.079 --> 00:37:40.639
<v Speaker 5>he's really comfortable at the minute defending in the front

790
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:42.639
<v Speaker 5>line because he has played the last three years of throwback.

791
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:44.480
<v Speaker 5>So that's just something else he's just going to have

792
00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:46.880
<v Speaker 5>to adjust to if he's going to permanently make the

793
00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:50.000
<v Speaker 5>transition to the haves, which is like to be expected

794
00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:52.280
<v Speaker 5>because I know he did play five eights growing up

795
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:54.719
<v Speaker 5>in junior grade, but he has been a specialist throw

796
00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:57.360
<v Speaker 5>back for at least the last three years. So these

797
00:37:57.400 --> 00:37:59.639
<v Speaker 5>are the kind of small details that he's probably not

798
00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:02.880
<v Speaker 5>going to be christ necessarilier back into the transition.

799
00:38:03.519 --> 00:38:07.440
<v Speaker 2>Steve, Besides, you know, ambushing or hoping they play like crap,

800
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:09.159
<v Speaker 2>how do you beat a side like camera?

801
00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:11.639
<v Speaker 3>Well, I agree with what Gary said. I've got that

802
00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:14.400
<v Speaker 3>written down that we've got to use the ball the

803
00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:18.119
<v Speaker 3>side we have picked where we can't try to push

804
00:38:18.159 --> 00:38:21.119
<v Speaker 3>through the middle of them because we won't. I think

805
00:38:21.159 --> 00:38:23.920
<v Speaker 3>what's really important with Camber is we need to wrap

806
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:27.760
<v Speaker 3>the ball up. You know, we are notoriously poor when

807
00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:32.079
<v Speaker 3>sides play good second phase play against this, so we've

808
00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:33.599
<v Speaker 3>got to wrap the ball up and not let them

809
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:35.880
<v Speaker 3>get that second phase game, which which they can be

810
00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:38.599
<v Speaker 3>really dynamic gap and you know you do that by

811
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:40.880
<v Speaker 3>get numbers in tackles. But also we're going to need

812
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:43.159
<v Speaker 3>a really fast line speed, so we're going to have

813
00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:47.639
<v Speaker 3>to defend and defend quickly and defend efficiently all game

814
00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:50.320
<v Speaker 3>eighty minutes and that way we've got we've got a

815
00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:51.800
<v Speaker 3>chance to beat them. I think we've also got to

816
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:55.280
<v Speaker 3>pressure the young bloke on the wing, Stewart put kick

817
00:38:55.360 --> 00:38:58.920
<v Speaker 3>to him all day. Obviously, if we do that, we

818
00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:01.440
<v Speaker 3>do it well. The thing that scares me most with

819
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:04.880
<v Speaker 3>Canberra I suppose that they're never out of a game, right.

820
00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:07.480
<v Speaker 3>They can have some down moments, but they always just

821
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:10.639
<v Speaker 3>seem to bounce back. And so we're going to have

822
00:39:10.679 --> 00:39:13.079
<v Speaker 3>to play an eighty minute game as well, you know,

823
00:39:13.800 --> 00:39:17.400
<v Speaker 3>minimize our errors and just be in that concentration for

824
00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:18.039
<v Speaker 3>eighty minutes.

825
00:39:19.480 --> 00:39:21.320
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, for me, if we are going to it, it's

826
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:22.719
<v Speaker 7>going to be a game where we come over the

827
00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:25.360
<v Speaker 7>top of the mate. If you have a look so far.

828
00:39:26.239 --> 00:39:29.000
<v Speaker 7>Our trend recently is the finished game is quite strongly.

829
00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:32.960
<v Speaker 7>Now we need to be working over their middles, we

830
00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:35.039
<v Speaker 7>need to be working them over all game, make it

831
00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:36.880
<v Speaker 7>moving them side to side. I can see a fair

832
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:40.239
<v Speaker 7>bit of short interchange passing between our forwards right at

833
00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:42.760
<v Speaker 7>the line, just to kind of create that little bit

834
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:46.239
<v Speaker 7>of extra work for their forwards and hopefully that ties

835
00:39:46.280 --> 00:39:49.239
<v Speaker 7>them out and creates those opportunities late in the first

836
00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:51.159
<v Speaker 7>half and especially late in that second half.

837
00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:55.440
<v Speaker 2>So like, it's not ideal though, Gary, is it. I mean,

838
00:39:55.599 --> 00:39:57.000
<v Speaker 2>you've said that a number of times, and I'm not

839
00:39:57.000 --> 00:39:59.519
<v Speaker 2>saying you're wrong that we're a better side at the

840
00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:02.360
<v Speaker 2>end of the game, But how many times we conceived

841
00:40:02.440 --> 00:40:04.880
<v Speaker 2>the first try this year? To be fair, they actually

842
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:07.599
<v Speaker 2>started well against Penrith, they just didn't put some points

843
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:10.760
<v Speaker 2>on the board. But I wouldn't want to start slow

844
00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:13.239
<v Speaker 2>against Canberra because they could blow you away.

845
00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:16.880
<v Speaker 7>I reckon Well, honestly, I just think it's the makeup

846
00:40:16.920 --> 00:40:20.559
<v Speaker 7>of the squad. I think where a guy who can

847
00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:23.519
<v Speaker 7>start the game in the middle with a bit of impact.

848
00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:26.800
<v Speaker 7>I think we're sure of that guy. Like I really

849
00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:30.000
<v Speaker 7>like what Perila Polo adds to our team, but I

850
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:31.559
<v Speaker 7>think we need a little bit more punch for the

851
00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:34.079
<v Speaker 7>middle at the start of the game that he both

852
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:37.519
<v Speaker 7>he and May can't really provide. May's a guy who's

853
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:40.119
<v Speaker 7>having a fantastic season, but he gets better the longer

854
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:43.360
<v Speaker 7>the game goes on. He gets his fitness comes into

855
00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:45.800
<v Speaker 7>play and he's able to push out minutes that no

856
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:49.360
<v Speaker 7>one else can and his impact in Perus and meet

857
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:51.440
<v Speaker 7>a gain in Prus as a game goes on. And

858
00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:54.159
<v Speaker 7>I just don't think we have that impact early in

859
00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:57.159
<v Speaker 7>the game to be a fast starting side. And I

860
00:40:57.159 --> 00:40:59.039
<v Speaker 7>think for the majority of the season, I think I've

861
00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:01.719
<v Speaker 7>been saying it since about round one. We're going to

862
00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:03.920
<v Speaker 7>have to hang on in those opening twenty minutes, and

863
00:41:03.960 --> 00:41:07.159
<v Speaker 7>that's really important tomorrow. Defensively, we need to be strong

864
00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:09.000
<v Speaker 7>in that opening twenty minutes because if we let in

865
00:41:09.039 --> 00:41:11.920
<v Speaker 7>two or three tries during that time without being able

866
00:41:11.960 --> 00:41:17.960
<v Speaker 7>to really penetrate canmera ourselves, then then it's going to

867
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:20.920
<v Speaker 7>be a long night. So it's really crucial not so

868
00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:23.800
<v Speaker 7>much that we get off to a really strong start defensively,

869
00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:24.079
<v Speaker 7>in my.

870
00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:27.880
<v Speaker 3>Opinion, Unfortunately, a lot of the time we don't help

871
00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:31.159
<v Speaker 3>ourselves either. We put ourselves under pressure? How how many

872
00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:35.239
<v Speaker 3>games have we seen the same scenario play out where

873
00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:38.440
<v Speaker 3>the first five minutes, first five minutes, so maybe first

874
00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:41.400
<v Speaker 3>six or seven sets, back and forth, back and forth,

875
00:41:41.440 --> 00:41:43.440
<v Speaker 3>and it's all quite because then we give away a

876
00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:45.920
<v Speaker 3>penalty or then we drop a ball and compound it

877
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:50.800
<v Speaker 3>with a rough penalty. And then one set later, they've

878
00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:53.159
<v Speaker 3>got to six again and another six again, and they're attacking

879
00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:56.119
<v Speaker 3>our line, and they get three repeat sets on our line.

880
00:41:56.440 --> 00:42:01.639
<v Speaker 3>And in past seasons you could guarantee that they would

881
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:05.000
<v Speaker 3>score six points. This season, not so much. We can

882
00:42:05.079 --> 00:42:07.559
<v Speaker 3>repel that better than we have, but we tend to

883
00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:13.119
<v Speaker 3>put ourselves under pressure through not completing, through not focusing,

884
00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:17.639
<v Speaker 3>through not executing as well as we could as well.

885
00:42:18.519 --> 00:42:21.119
<v Speaker 3>I agree with what you know, Gary is saying about

886
00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:23.960
<v Speaker 3>the lack of punch up the middle. But I think

887
00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:25.920
<v Speaker 3>we're our own worst enemies sometimes.

888
00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:30.079
<v Speaker 2>Royce Hunt deck and where's he at? I mean, I'll

889
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:33.800
<v Speaker 2>be totally honest here, Like when we first signed Terry L.

890
00:42:33.880 --> 00:42:36.320
<v Speaker 2>May Or in the mix, I was sort of like,

891
00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:39.239
<v Speaker 2>I got some red flags here and Gary would know that.

892
00:42:39.400 --> 00:42:41.840
<v Speaker 2>But I sort of came around on that one. But

893
00:42:41.960 --> 00:42:44.800
<v Speaker 2>Royce Hunt I was the same on him, but more

894
00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:48.840
<v Speaker 2>for just football reasons. I just don't know. I can't

895
00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:50.480
<v Speaker 2>think of the top of my head, how many players

896
00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:54.960
<v Speaker 2>these days play twenty minutes and have a real impact.

897
00:42:55.000 --> 00:42:57.280
<v Speaker 2>Maybe that big Broncos guy who's eight foot tall off

898
00:42:57.320 --> 00:42:59.239
<v Speaker 2>the bench. I ever know his name. But I just

899
00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:02.760
<v Speaker 2>think those those sort of players are going out of

900
00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:05.000
<v Speaker 2>the game. You know, they're probably in a few years

901
00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:09.079
<v Speaker 2>will be listening the changes, and you know, I just

902
00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:11.280
<v Speaker 2>I think he's been a waste of money. I'll be honest.

903
00:43:12.800 --> 00:43:14.599
<v Speaker 5>I mean, yeah, I think at the time when we

904
00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:18.400
<v Speaker 5>signed him, we were just looking for that Stefano replacement,

905
00:43:18.599 --> 00:43:22.239
<v Speaker 5>and then the calculation would have been that, okay, like

906
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:25.800
<v Speaker 5>we can surely get like at least ten more minutes

907
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:29.360
<v Speaker 5>of you know, quality pretty time out of them, and

908
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:32.119
<v Speaker 5>then obviously tell me you're gonna kind of fill out

909
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:32.480
<v Speaker 5>the tree.

910
00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:34.159
<v Speaker 4>And thank god he did, because.

911
00:43:33.880 --> 00:43:36.519
<v Speaker 5>If he hadn't, we've been a lot of trouble right now,

912
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:40.679
<v Speaker 5>like because you know, Hunt hasn't like when he started,

913
00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:43.440
<v Speaker 5>he's been really poor. But I don't know, I just

914
00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:47.519
<v Speaker 5>didn't think that Hunt was playing that badly when like

915
00:43:47.559 --> 00:43:48.960
<v Speaker 5>he was coming off the bench for it.

916
00:43:48.960 --> 00:43:51.639
<v Speaker 4>It's like, yes, it got a little bit loose.

917
00:43:51.519 --> 00:43:53.480
<v Speaker 5>In the middle when he did play the big minutes,

918
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:55.840
<v Speaker 5>but like he still added that value. So I don't know,

919
00:43:56.039 --> 00:43:58.960
<v Speaker 5>Like I'm not sure why he wouldn't just be coming

920
00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:02.320
<v Speaker 5>off the bench now. But and it just show with

921
00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:05.440
<v Speaker 5>the Sharks, like he kind of came as advertised that yes,

922
00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:08.639
<v Speaker 5>he's kind of like that kind of prop has going

923
00:44:08.719 --> 00:44:12.639
<v Speaker 5>out of fashion, but you know, like we've got him contracted,

924
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:16.159
<v Speaker 5>like surely we should try and use them to the

925
00:44:16.199 --> 00:44:19.599
<v Speaker 5>better of his abilities. I don't understand it, because like

926
00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:23.440
<v Speaker 5>I don't know what is having Jack Burdes like there

927
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:24.440
<v Speaker 5>instead of him do.

928
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:26.119
<v Speaker 4>I just don't get when you've got light who.

929
00:44:26.519 --> 00:44:32.760
<v Speaker 2>Like attitude declin Like, I don't know. I'm not inside

930
00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:33.800
<v Speaker 2>the walls of Concord.

931
00:44:33.920 --> 00:44:34.119
<v Speaker 6>Gay.

932
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:38.079
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think it's an effort of getting getting fitter.

933
00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:42.519
<v Speaker 7>I'm hoping they're playing. I haven't watched the lower grade

934
00:44:42.519 --> 00:44:45.360
<v Speaker 7>games he's playing, and I haven't really had a check

935
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:46.599
<v Speaker 7>to say how I was going, But I hope he's

936
00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:47.920
<v Speaker 7>playing a few more minutes there.

937
00:44:48.519 --> 00:44:49.639
<v Speaker 6>I think he's fit.

938
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:52.280
<v Speaker 7>This level probably dropped away, and this is an attempt

939
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:53.119
<v Speaker 7>at getting a little bit.

940
00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:57.440
<v Speaker 3>Fitter playing close to half a game. If my memory

941
00:44:57.480 --> 00:44:58.239
<v Speaker 3>is correct. There.

942
00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:02.320
<v Speaker 5>I feel like because augament training, I don't understand why,

943
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:06.280
<v Speaker 5>Like I like my understanding was that he got dropped

944
00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:07.599
<v Speaker 5>because he wasn't playing well.

945
00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:10.719
<v Speaker 2>Match fits is different now, isn't it? Like you can't

946
00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:12.840
<v Speaker 2>really train that. I think you've got to do it in.

947
00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:14.480
<v Speaker 5>Games, Like I don't know, but you can do it,

948
00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:17.400
<v Speaker 5>like you can take positive steps to buld it up.

949
00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:21.679
<v Speaker 4>But I would haven't playing. That's we that's we can.

950
00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:24.239
<v Speaker 4>I think we need them, but clearly the coach is

951
00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:25.119
<v Speaker 4>actually something else.

952
00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:27.599
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, where do you think it's at Steve with him,

953
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:30.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to labor it, but like I'm not

954
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:32.519
<v Speaker 2>against a little clip around the ear like Benji dropped

955
00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:35.239
<v Speaker 2>jack byrd for a week and maybe sometimes it's just

956
00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:38.079
<v Speaker 2>too you know, jop players. But this is now a

957
00:45:38.119 --> 00:45:41.719
<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks for Hunt. Where's it going?

958
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:45.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm concerned that it's it's prolonged. I agree with you.

959
00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:48.760
<v Speaker 3>When he was originally dropped, I thought it was going

960
00:45:48.840 --> 00:45:50.840
<v Speaker 3>to be out for one week and then straight back.

961
00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:54.039
<v Speaker 3>We need, we need what he brought to the team

962
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:57.920
<v Speaker 3>earlier in the season. I'm nervous of that opinion EDDI

963
00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:00.239
<v Speaker 3>that he was a waste of money I thought he

964
00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:03.280
<v Speaker 3>was doing in those first half dozen games of the

965
00:46:03.280 --> 00:46:07.400
<v Speaker 3>season was critical to our success. That impact he bought

966
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:09.719
<v Speaker 3>from the bench at the twenty five minute mark was

967
00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:13.599
<v Speaker 3>absolutely fantastic, you know, when Jack Bird was fresher in

968
00:46:13.679 --> 00:46:16.039
<v Speaker 3>the season at the time, and together when they would

969
00:46:16.079 --> 00:46:20.400
<v Speaker 3>both come on and had huge impact on us. I

970
00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:23.760
<v Speaker 3>think it's defensive. I think it's fitness, and I think

971
00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:28.480
<v Speaker 3>that then demonstrates itself on the field through his defensive efforts.

972
00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:30.679
<v Speaker 3>And I think that's why he's not being picked, because

973
00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:34.199
<v Speaker 3>I think he becomes a defensive liability of a minuity fatigues,

974
00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:37.239
<v Speaker 3>whether he spat the dummy, and there's a bit of attitude.

975
00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:39.960
<v Speaker 3>We don't know, right, I'd hate to think that's the case.

976
00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:41.719
<v Speaker 3>I've got no reason to think it is the case.

977
00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:48.280
<v Speaker 3>But he's obviously been told to improve his fitness and

978
00:46:48.559 --> 00:46:50.760
<v Speaker 3>maybe he's got to hit a benchmark and he hasn't

979
00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:51.280
<v Speaker 3>in it yet.

980
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:56.039
<v Speaker 7>It's interesting that the issues we kind of have with

981
00:46:56.119 --> 00:46:59.079
<v Speaker 7>him really started to show when we moved into that

982
00:46:59.119 --> 00:46:59.800
<v Speaker 7>starting prop.

983
00:46:59.719 --> 00:47:03.039
<v Speaker 6>Role off the Poula got injured. So I think they

984
00:47:03.079 --> 00:47:04.360
<v Speaker 6>were his poorest games.

985
00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:08.599
<v Speaker 7>So hopefully those increase minutes in Cup can get him

986
00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:11.039
<v Speaker 7>that a little bit fitter can and getting back in

987
00:47:11.079 --> 00:47:13.400
<v Speaker 7>because I agree with Steve what he provided in those

988
00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:16.719
<v Speaker 7>opening few rounds, coming on about the twenty five to

989
00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:19.840
<v Speaker 7>thirty minute mark and having a short stint I thought

990
00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:23.000
<v Speaker 7>was really important to our team, and that was the

991
00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:25.079
<v Speaker 7>part of the game where I was feeling most confident

992
00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:28.079
<v Speaker 7>about our ability to oken sides up off the back

993
00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:32.079
<v Speaker 7>of his playables. So hopefully we can get him into

994
00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:34.159
<v Speaker 7>some kind of fitness and into some kind of role

995
00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:34.800
<v Speaker 7>in the team soon.

996
00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:37.960
<v Speaker 5>I don't know what Kat the Lily has to do

997
00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:42.199
<v Speaker 5>to get a game, because yeah, because he's just that,

998
00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:45.760
<v Speaker 5>like he's the opposite point where he's that like modern

999
00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:50.199
<v Speaker 5>day like felt load of the ground, lots of leg drive,

1000
00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:53.000
<v Speaker 5>like quite more bail. I'm not sure if he's like

1001
00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:55.679
<v Speaker 5>I'm not sure how if fat is determined how many

1002
00:47:55.719 --> 00:47:57.960
<v Speaker 5>minutes he can play, But like he would just be

1003
00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:00.639
<v Speaker 5>someone like i'bout a pocket rocket you could play off

1004
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:03.639
<v Speaker 5>the bench, and he has that mobility, and he played

1005
00:48:03.679 --> 00:48:06.960
<v Speaker 5>really well in the Bill Dogs trial, and by all accounts,

1006
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:11.960
<v Speaker 5>he played really well for the Magpies last weekend. I

1007
00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:14.920
<v Speaker 5>just don't get I don't know why he isn't getting

1008
00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:17.280
<v Speaker 5>some minutes and then he got like he was on

1009
00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:20.039
<v Speaker 5>the bench against Permouth, but he didn't even get game

1010
00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:23.159
<v Speaker 5>to him. Now, I saw some justificads, some justification letter

1011
00:48:23.679 --> 00:48:25.559
<v Speaker 5>that it might have been like an imprompt thing to

1012
00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:27.519
<v Speaker 5>get last back on the field, and that you was

1013
00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:30.559
<v Speaker 5>the last in the case. But I'm a bit surprised

1014
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:32.800
<v Speaker 5>that he hasn't played more flush grade this season, to

1015
00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:34.639
<v Speaker 5>be honest, Yeah, I.

1016
00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:36.800
<v Speaker 7>Was really disappointed when he didn't get any gang time

1017
00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:39.880
<v Speaker 7>against the Panthers. I was really excited from what we

1018
00:48:39.960 --> 00:48:42.599
<v Speaker 7>saw in the in the troll. I really wanted him

1019
00:48:42.599 --> 00:48:44.559
<v Speaker 7>get more in that second troll to see really what

1020
00:48:44.679 --> 00:48:46.119
<v Speaker 7>he has the offer against center old.

1021
00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:50.159
<v Speaker 6>Players because he has impact. He runs the whole extreme

1022
00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:50.440
<v Speaker 6>we have.

1023
00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:55.559
<v Speaker 7>He doesn't hold back, and I'm a huge fan of kid.

1024
00:48:55.639 --> 00:48:57.880
<v Speaker 7>I can't wait to see him get some more time

1025
00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:00.599
<v Speaker 7>in SR because I really think he has to offer.

1026
00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:02.920
<v Speaker 7>So hopefully we get to see some of him soon too.

1027
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:07.079
<v Speaker 2>Steve, I don't think I can go to Campbelltown ever again.

1028
00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:09.679
<v Speaker 2>I just until we win a game. I know you're

1029
00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:11.639
<v Speaker 2>laughing like you're crazy. You've got to get on a

1030
00:49:11.679 --> 00:49:14.719
<v Speaker 2>flight to somewhere in the east. Is at Dubai two

1031
00:49:14.840 --> 00:49:16.519
<v Speaker 2>in the morning on that day, you're getting on a

1032
00:49:16.559 --> 00:49:18.400
<v Speaker 2>flight or getting ready for a flight at six in

1033
00:49:18.480 --> 00:49:20.519
<v Speaker 2>the morning or whatever, and you were going to go

1034
00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:24.320
<v Speaker 2>to Campbelltown tomorrow night in the freezing cold and probably

1035
00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:26.559
<v Speaker 2>watch us lose. Give me one good reason why I

1036
00:49:26.599 --> 00:49:29.079
<v Speaker 2>should go out there, given I reckon I've lost the

1037
00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:31.519
<v Speaker 2>last twelve games, not that I've had anything to do

1038
00:49:31.679 --> 00:49:33.880
<v Speaker 2>with playing or coaching when I've been out there.

1039
00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:37.960
<v Speaker 3>Because you're a West Tiger, Eddie, because your claws out mate,

1040
00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:39.119
<v Speaker 3>because you're there for the team.

1041
00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:41.679
<v Speaker 2>All those k's coming out are they.

1042
00:49:41.760 --> 00:49:43.679
<v Speaker 3>Because you've got a mindset that you never give up.

1043
00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:45.599
<v Speaker 3>You support your team through thick and thin.

1044
00:49:46.119 --> 00:49:47.480
<v Speaker 6>Eddie doesn't have that mindset.

1045
00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:48.360
<v Speaker 4>No, I don't know.

1046
00:49:49.639 --> 00:49:51.840
<v Speaker 3>You've been an elite sportsman. Well, you keep telling this,

1047
00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:54.360
<v Speaker 3>you've been an elites. I'm still still waiting to see

1048
00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:57.119
<v Speaker 3>the video. But you've been an elite sportsman. You know

1049
00:49:57.239 --> 00:49:59.199
<v Speaker 3>what it's like. Get out there and support the team.

1050
00:49:59.239 --> 00:50:01.400
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'll do. I'll go out to Campbelltown.

1051
00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:04.519
<v Speaker 3>I'll watch the game. We'll have a glorious victory. I'll

1052
00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:07.039
<v Speaker 3>come home about eleven o'clock. I'll sit there and turn

1053
00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:10.119
<v Speaker 3>it on and watch it again and then I'll jump

1054
00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:11.800
<v Speaker 3>on a plane and just you.

1055
00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:13.639
<v Speaker 2>On the hill or in the corporate box tomorrow night.

1056
00:50:14.039 --> 00:50:16.760
<v Speaker 3>No, I'm in my I'm in my my paid for seat.

1057
00:50:18.079 --> 00:50:19.719
<v Speaker 2>What are you meeting with Abra and Dubai? Are you

1058
00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:22.480
<v Speaker 2>meeting with one of those chieks or are you going

1059
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:24.719
<v Speaker 2>to be like this fake sheek that to buy the

1060
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:26.760
<v Speaker 2>club or for us?

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00:50:27.320 --> 00:50:30.639
<v Speaker 3>Not sure how anyone who listeners is interested at all,

1062
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:34.000
<v Speaker 3>But I am spending a week with my son who

1063
00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:35.840
<v Speaker 3>currently lives over there, and.

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00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:38.440
<v Speaker 6>Third party deals will be nicely.

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00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:39.440
<v Speaker 3>And looking forward to it.

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00:50:39.599 --> 00:50:44.039
<v Speaker 5>Yes, No, I actually I heard a rumor that Steve

1067
00:50:44.199 --> 00:50:46.639
<v Speaker 5>is actually trying to put a call asher together to

1068
00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:49.400
<v Speaker 5>buy the club with some sports watching money from the

1069
00:50:49.440 --> 00:50:50.000
<v Speaker 5>Middle East.

1070
00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:51.599
<v Speaker 6>So yeah for that one.

1071
00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:55.480
<v Speaker 2>The Middle Eastern money it's taken over and boxing and

1072
00:50:55.559 --> 00:50:58.559
<v Speaker 2>other sports and Steve the Sheik when he comes back

1073
00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:00.519
<v Speaker 2>if he's things on it.

1074
00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:03.079
<v Speaker 3>So anyway, if we put the eye kicks up and

1075
00:51:03.119 --> 00:51:05.039
<v Speaker 3>we pressure their winger, I think we'll do pretty well.

1076
00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:07.199
<v Speaker 3>Isn't it time for the quiz?

1077
00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:12.159
<v Speaker 8>Sorry, there was no denial about buying the club there exactly.

1078
00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:14.559
<v Speaker 8>Let's do the quiz before I get in trouble. What

1079
00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:17.559
<v Speaker 8>I'm saying, here got his quiz. My favorite time of

1080
00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:19.800
<v Speaker 8>the week. I'm hosting it tonight.

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00:51:20.320 --> 00:51:20.599
<v Speaker 6>Boys.

1082
00:51:20.679 --> 00:51:23.280
<v Speaker 2>Question one's a multiple choice so you can listen to this.

1083
00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:27.239
<v Speaker 2>Who scored our first try in the twenty ten Do

1084
00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:30.400
<v Speaker 2>or Die semi final against the Green Machine? In camera?

1085
00:51:31.079 --> 00:51:35.440
<v Speaker 2>Was it a Chris Hydington, B Gareth Ellis, see Lottie

1086
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:39.039
<v Speaker 2>Dakiri or d Chris Lawrence? I reckon they all scored

1087
00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:41.400
<v Speaker 2>on the night, But who scored the first try? Steve,

1088
00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:46.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say Chris Lawrence, declan, I'm.

1089
00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:48.079
<v Speaker 4>Going to say Chris Lawrence as well.

1090
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:51.519
<v Speaker 6>I was gonna say Chris Lawrence, but I'm going to

1091
00:51:51.559 --> 00:51:52.679
<v Speaker 6>go lighting just to be different.

1092
00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:54.239
<v Speaker 3>No, all wrong.

1093
00:51:54.360 --> 00:51:57.599
<v Speaker 2>In the seventh minute it was Chris Hidington and he

1094
00:51:57.760 --> 00:52:01.039
<v Speaker 2>celebrated the way everyone seems to say lebrate these days, Steve.

1095
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:02.480
<v Speaker 2>They just kicked the ball into the crowd.

1096
00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:03.199
<v Speaker 6>What is it about that?

1097
00:52:03.239 --> 00:52:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Are they getting Are they getting money on the side

1098
00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:06.199
<v Speaker 2>for that or something?

1099
00:52:06.719 --> 00:52:08.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't mind that if you want to kick well

1100
00:52:08.480 --> 00:52:10.400
<v Speaker 3>as long as you're winning. When you're down by twenty

1101
00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:12.480
<v Speaker 3>points and you do a celebration, there's something wrong with it.

1102
00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:14.480
<v Speaker 2>I've got the try July coming up, deck and I

1103
00:52:14.639 --> 00:52:17.400
<v Speaker 2>like the silly try celebrations when you're down by thirty

1104
00:52:17.400 --> 00:52:19.440
<v Speaker 2>and you taking to I don't think that's quite funny.

1105
00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:22.239
<v Speaker 5>Well, what would try celebration should be any I know

1106
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:24.760
<v Speaker 5>you probably scored times when you're back in the day,

1107
00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:26.039
<v Speaker 5>but what would you go for it?

1108
00:52:26.360 --> 00:52:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Just walk back to halfway? Yeah yeah, yeah, betting on

1109
00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:36.320
<v Speaker 2>the other team or something terrible? Question two is it

1110
00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:37.039
<v Speaker 2>true or false?

1111
00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:38.119
<v Speaker 6>Boys out?

1112
00:52:38.239 --> 00:52:42.559
<v Speaker 2>Two two thousand and six games against the Raiders had

1113
00:52:42.599 --> 00:52:50.039
<v Speaker 2>the same halftime, full time and Golden points score pols

1114
00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:55.599
<v Speaker 2>wollso it is false. Both games come up with the answers.

1115
00:52:55.920 --> 00:52:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Both games had the same halftime score, which was twelve all,

1116
00:52:59.159 --> 00:53:02.079
<v Speaker 2>same full time score or eighteen all but one Golden

1117
00:53:02.159 --> 00:53:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Point game was decided by a penalty goal, and that

1118
00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:08.840
<v Speaker 2>would have been against US without doubt, and the other

1119
00:53:09.039 --> 00:53:13.239
<v Speaker 2>by a field goal with camera winning both. Imagine losing

1120
00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:15.320
<v Speaker 2>to the same side twice in Golden Point in a

1121
00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:17.960
<v Speaker 2>year that could only happen to us. Question three, Name

1122
00:53:18.039 --> 00:53:21.119
<v Speaker 2>the four NRL players who we have directly signed from

1123
00:53:21.119 --> 00:53:22.920
<v Speaker 2>the Raiders jumping whenever you like?

1124
00:53:26.360 --> 00:53:29.920
<v Speaker 3>Or the first lay lure? What was his name?

1125
00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Joey.

1126
00:53:33.960 --> 00:53:35.679
<v Speaker 6>I was going to say, but if.

1127
00:53:35.639 --> 00:53:37.039
<v Speaker 2>Todd Peyton came from the rus He went to the

1128
00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:44.239
<v Speaker 2>roosters first, isn't he ju came from the rest of them? Yeah,

1129
00:53:44.320 --> 00:53:46.880
<v Speaker 2>that might he might have been reserved great from hur

1130
00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:51.199
<v Speaker 2>from the readers. One for Gary, there's two more. One

1131
00:53:51.400 --> 00:53:54.960
<v Speaker 2>was a redhead second rower. Red Eddy was sort of

1132
00:53:55.000 --> 00:53:56.480
<v Speaker 2>a back roller A.

1133
00:53:57.960 --> 00:54:00.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I know who you're talking about, Joel Edwards.

1134
00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:02.119
<v Speaker 2>Col Edwards. Well done, Declin. So we've all got one

1135
00:54:02.920 --> 00:54:06.039
<v Speaker 2>and the last one there's a little pocket rocket. Declan

1136
00:54:06.079 --> 00:54:07.679
<v Speaker 2>can't get this one because it was two thousand and

1137
00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:10.800
<v Speaker 2>one to two thousands. Lincoln Withers in the halves played

1138
00:54:10.840 --> 00:54:15.400
<v Speaker 2>forty six games. I like that question question four nearest

1139
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:18.679
<v Speaker 2>to the pin. So Gary, you're going to go first?

1140
00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:24.320
<v Speaker 2>Cheat and these ones. Since our inaugural two thousand season,

1141
00:54:24.719 --> 00:54:29.480
<v Speaker 2>West Tigers have debooted three hundred players. Whoever that bloke

1142
00:54:29.639 --> 00:54:31.599
<v Speaker 2>that played last week would have been number three hundred

1143
00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:37.199
<v Speaker 2>Murray in the same amount of time, how many players

1144
00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:40.480
<v Speaker 2>have camera da boot? Gary, go first?

1145
00:54:41.400 --> 00:54:42.760
<v Speaker 6>Uh, two hundred and.

1146
00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:49.599
<v Speaker 9>Eighty one, Declan, I'm going to go two hundred and

1147
00:54:53.760 --> 00:54:57.079
<v Speaker 9>thirty to forty five.

1148
00:54:58.360 --> 00:55:01.599
<v Speaker 2>Well, declan your nearest two hundred two. So that's it.

1149
00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:03.960
<v Speaker 2>It's a good quiz from you this week because it's

1150
00:55:03.960 --> 00:55:06.840
<v Speaker 2>given me talking points. He's basically saying, this is the

1151
00:55:06.920 --> 00:55:09.280
<v Speaker 2>reason we've been awful for twenty five years, because we

1152
00:55:09.960 --> 00:55:12.079
<v Speaker 2>nearly used one hundred more players than Camera who haven't

1153
00:55:12.159 --> 00:55:14.400
<v Speaker 2>been great over the past quarter century.

1154
00:55:14.599 --> 00:55:16.320
<v Speaker 6>It's a good quiz as long as all these questions

1155
00:55:16.360 --> 00:55:17.039
<v Speaker 6>are right this week.

1156
00:55:17.440 --> 00:55:20.599
<v Speaker 2>Question five? Who am I? I was born in Sydney

1157
00:55:20.639 --> 00:55:25.039
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen eighty three. Debuted with a Western Sydney team

1158
00:55:25.360 --> 00:55:29.599
<v Speaker 2>the year before they won the Grand Final. Wasn't part

1159
00:55:29.639 --> 00:55:33.440
<v Speaker 2>of their premiership winning squad. I joined the West Tigers

1160
00:55:33.519 --> 00:55:36.480
<v Speaker 2>in the season after we were defending Premiers SO two

1161
00:55:36.519 --> 00:55:41.719
<v Speaker 2>thousand and six, well two thousand and seven, defending premiers

1162
00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:45.920
<v Speaker 2>season after we were defending Premiers SO seven. Played one

1163
00:55:46.039 --> 00:55:49.639
<v Speaker 2>game as a starting prop. I remember that and ruptured

1164
00:55:49.679 --> 00:55:53.159
<v Speaker 2>Mike Keilles Tendon. I remember this was like a Tim

1165
00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Sheen's one oh one Crazy to the Grant. Not Tim Grant.

1166
00:55:57.639 --> 00:56:03.199
<v Speaker 2>He wasn't not Bronson Harrison. I finished with the Joint

1167
00:56:03.320 --> 00:56:05.719
<v Speaker 2>Venture in the season we finished ninth, scoring one, trying

1168
00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:09.639
<v Speaker 2>thirty four appearances. Continued playing NRL until I moved finished

1169
00:56:09.639 --> 00:56:12.199
<v Speaker 2>in the Super League. I say this is the Big One.

1170
00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:16.920
<v Speaker 2>I shared the same surname as a West Tiger's two

1171
00:56:16.960 --> 00:56:22.880
<v Speaker 2>thousand and five Grand Final winner. Probably started in the

1172
00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:34.159
<v Speaker 2>forward pack that night. Probably started at Locke, Anglia well

1173
00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:40.119
<v Speaker 2>Daniel Ga no relation to Bengalia but Danny Gallier so

1174
00:56:40.280 --> 00:56:44.280
<v Speaker 2>Debud Penrith West Tigers two thousand and seven and two

1175
00:56:44.320 --> 00:56:47.360
<v Speaker 2>thousand and nine. So thank you, Jodi. I thought that

1176
00:56:47.480 --> 00:56:51.159
<v Speaker 2>was one of your best. That quiz tonight. All right, boys,

1177
00:56:51.239 --> 00:56:53.880
<v Speaker 2>that's it. I told you Ael tonight, Steve. I sent

1178
00:56:53.960 --> 00:56:56.639
<v Speaker 2>him a text. I said, I'm not coming on Sunday

1179
00:56:56.719 --> 00:56:59.000
<v Speaker 2>night because i need a break. I've done three podcasts

1180
00:56:59.039 --> 00:57:00.440
<v Speaker 2>in five days. I've been worked.

1181
00:57:02.599 --> 00:57:07.559
<v Speaker 6>Am I one podcast? What's that carry long podcast?

1182
00:57:08.159 --> 00:57:08.360
<v Speaker 4>I know?

1183
00:57:08.960 --> 00:57:11.039
<v Speaker 2>So we're getting paid per minute to be good, but

1184
00:57:11.159 --> 00:57:14.039
<v Speaker 2>we're not so declan you might have to jump on

1185
00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:16.559
<v Speaker 2>Sunday night. But obviously if we lose that won were happening.

1186
00:57:17.760 --> 00:57:20.119
<v Speaker 4>I'll be there as long as it's said before my bedtime.

1187
00:57:20.199 --> 00:57:24.719
<v Speaker 2>Popefully christ our best. All right boys, thank you, jeers guys,

1188
00:57:25.119 --> 00:58:06.440
<v Speaker 2>those guys sto
