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Gentlemen, how are 25 00:01:04,519 --> 00:01:05,359 you guys doing today? 26 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:06,519 Speaker 5: Hey? 27 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:06,799 Speaker 6: Ben? 28 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:07,439 Speaker 5: Doing well? 29 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: How you doing doing good? 30 00:01:09,159 --> 00:01:09,359 Speaker 6: Ben? 31 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:09,719 Speaker 5: Hey? 32 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:12,439 Speaker 1: It's the holiday seasons, guys. 33 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,879 Speaker 4: Grateful for you and grateful for Christmas, Grateful for this 34 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,799 wonderful time of the year, and grateful that you guys 35 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,719 can provide some knowledge here in this sports Court segment 36 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,519 brought to you by Handy and Handy Handylawutah dot Com. 37 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,159 Let's start off with this news and notes. How about 38 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:35,159 this Michael Jordan, best basketball player, the Goat. He's obviously 39 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,040 gotten into NASCAR and he's settled an anti trust lawsuit. 40 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:39,719 Speaker 1: Writer. 41 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,159 Speaker 4: NASCAR has rather settled at anti trust lawsuit with MJ's 42 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,879 team in midst of the trial. MJ and NASCAR chairman 43 00:01:47,959 --> 00:01:51,040 testified earlier this week, I believe give us an update. 44 00:01:52,239 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, so this has been going over a couple of years, 45 00:01:54,879 --> 00:01:58,000 and on our sports court we've learned quite a bit 46 00:01:58,079 --> 00:02:01,439 about NASCAR and the way it operate. And you know, 47 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,879 the background is NASCAR is a family owned group that 48 00:02:05,599 --> 00:02:10,039 is private and it provides charters to teams that want 49 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:14,120 to race a NASCAR and our guy, Michael Jordan, he's 50 00:02:14,159 --> 00:02:16,800 a part owner and a couple of teams and as 51 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:21,800 we know, he's an ultra ultra competitive Well, a couple 52 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,240 of years back, he filed a lawsuit against NASCAR and 53 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,199 he challenged them, probably something that teams in the past 54 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,759 had wanted to do, but here you've got a billionaire 55 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,120 who said, hey, I'm going to challenge this, and what 56 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,840 his claim was is the way they were running things 57 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,840 violated antitrust. They were operating as a monopoly because they 58 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:47,759 had non compete agreements, they had charters that they controlled, 59 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,560 they had multi year contracts, they required their teams to 60 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,840 sign releases of claims, kind of meaning that they could 61 00:02:53,879 --> 00:02:58,159 not sue them. Well, Michael Jordan sued him, and NASCAR 62 00:02:58,280 --> 00:02:59,919 they kind of came back and said, well, wait a minute, 63 00:02:59,919 --> 00:03:03,520 we provide financial stability, we provide benefits to our charters. 64 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,520 And throughout this litigation, Michael Jordan's teams they lost a 65 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,400 lot of it. They were making claims and file motions 66 00:03:11,439 --> 00:03:13,680 and the judge didn't agree with Michael Jordan's teams. But 67 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:15,919 it goes along. They try to settle it. But guess what, 68 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,719 it makes it to trial. And a lot of cases 69 00:03:18,039 --> 00:03:20,879 are settled well before trial, but this thing actually made 70 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:22,759 it to trial and it's about a week and a 71 00:03:22,759 --> 00:03:25,960 half into trial. As part of the trial, Michael Jordan's 72 00:03:26,039 --> 00:03:29,719 actually he actually testified and some of the things he said, 73 00:03:29,719 --> 00:03:31,479 he goes, I really had no choice. I had to 74 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,439 do this for everyone, he said. I wasn't afraid to 75 00:03:34,479 --> 00:03:37,280 take on NASCAR. He said someone had to step forward 76 00:03:37,319 --> 00:03:39,840 and challenge the entity. I sat in those meetings with 77 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,439 the longtaime owners and was browbeaten for so many years 78 00:03:42,639 --> 00:03:44,960 that we needed to make a change, and I wasn't 79 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,719 afraid I could challenge NASCAR with my resources. Well, the 80 00:03:48,879 --> 00:03:52,479 chairman of NASCAR also testified at trial, and he was 81 00:03:53,599 --> 00:03:56,319 very bullish, kind of saying, this is our system. You know, 82 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,759 I haven't changed my opinion on the charters. This is 83 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,000 how we've operated for years and years. This is an 84 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,680 eighty one year old guy. Hard to teach an old 85 00:04:03,719 --> 00:04:06,919 dog a new trick. He wasn't you know, surprisingly hadn't 86 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,919 been challenged for years, but he was really stuck on 87 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,719 his position. Well, here a week and having to trial, 88 00:04:14,319 --> 00:04:16,199 and incidentally, the judge came out and said, you know, 89 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:17,839 I don't see an end of this trial. This thing 90 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,240 is frustrated. It's going to go on forever and never Well. 91 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,319 Breaking news today it comes out that the parties have 92 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,519 reached an agreement and settled it. We don't know the 93 00:04:26,639 --> 00:04:31,120 terms of the settlement, but it basically came out and 94 00:04:31,199 --> 00:04:37,040 said that the statements were that let's see that this 95 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,519 allows the parties to move forward with a unified focus 96 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,240 on advancing stock car racing and delivering an exceptional competition 97 00:04:43,319 --> 00:04:46,040 for our fans. Now, they really didn't want to look 98 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,639 at a potential loss that Nascara said. This was about progress. Teams, 99 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,920 drivers and partners will have stability and opportunity they deserve. 100 00:04:53,079 --> 00:04:56,319 Now this outcome gives all parties the flexibility and confidence 101 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:00,160 to continue delivering unforgetting racing moments for our fans. Well, 102 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:02,680 that comes as a shock, you know. And I think 103 00:05:02,759 --> 00:05:06,160 this is a real victory for Michael Jordan's teams, but 104 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,079 also for all the teams. You know that it's going 105 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:12,079 to give them a little say and some flexibility. I 106 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,079 think that the NASCAR chairman, he probably caught win. We've 107 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:17,839 talked about. I think NASCAR had a lot to lose, 108 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,480 but I think he caught win. That MJ's undefeated in 109 00:05:20,519 --> 00:05:22,959 the finals, and that might have worried him a little bit. 110 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,920 But we've got a settlement. It's you know, a lot 111 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,560 of cases don't make the trial and a lot of 112 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,600 them don't settle at the time of trial. But apparently 113 00:05:29,959 --> 00:05:33,439 something swung that NASCAR wanted to settle the deal. 114 00:05:34,199 --> 00:05:35,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, what swung? 115 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,519 Speaker 4: Do you think if you were, I know, you're not 116 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,680 as lawyers, you're not supposed to have any sort of 117 00:05:40,759 --> 00:05:43,920 conjecture here in radio world, We're like, well, what if this? 118 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: What if that? What do you make of it? 119 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,759 Speaker 5: Well? I think it was before trial. I think the 120 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,920 writing was on the wall that you know, anti trust 121 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,199 rules and monopoly rules. This kind of fit squarely into 122 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,279 that that it didn't allow fair competition, you know, going 123 00:06:00,319 --> 00:06:03,160 to get sponsorships and all that kind of thing. The 124 00:06:03,199 --> 00:06:06,680 teams all had to kind of operate under this NASCAR umbrella, 125 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,800 and they were, you know, they didn't want to lose 126 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,759 their charters, so they basically agreed to these you know, 127 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,439 kind of tight terms and you know, and Jordan had 128 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,759 Jeffrey Kessler, who's the king of anti trust in sports law. 129 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,560 And I think even though Jordan lost a lot of 130 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,079 these motions along the way, the writing was on the 131 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,360 wall that potentially there could be And I think NASCAR 132 00:06:26,439 --> 00:06:29,319 sage is a big risk, you know, because if Jordan loses, 133 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,480 guess what, he's just back to square one, right, Oh, 134 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,319 we're just going to operate in this system. And okay, 135 00:06:34,439 --> 00:06:36,839 and you know, but there could have been appeals. For sure, 136 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,600 there would have been appeals by either side. So reaching 137 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,199 an agreement between the parties is good because they'll incan deal. 138 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,319 We don't know any of the details of that, and 139 00:06:45,959 --> 00:06:48,879 we might even hear word that, oh they're frustrated now 140 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,959 because they can't come to terms on that, and they 141 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,720 might have to go back to the judge on these things. 142 00:06:52,759 --> 00:06:55,160 But I think NASCAR saw the writing on the wall. 143 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: Interesting moves. Let's move on over to college football. 144 00:07:01,759 --> 00:07:05,319 Speaker 4: Michigan's head coach Sean Moore was arrested for a sold 145 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,759 after being fired for cause. He's going to be arranged tomorrow. 146 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,600 This is a chaotic one. This is a crazy one. 147 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:12,800 Give us the latest. 148 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:16,959 Speaker 6: Hey, yeah, it is a crazy one. And this is 149 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,920 all happening within the last twenty four hours. But what 150 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:24,160 we've learned is that Sean Moore a was fired from his. 151 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 5: Job for cause. I can talk about that a little 152 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:27,920 bit more. 153 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,879 Speaker 6: But fired from his job for cause and then also 154 00:07:32,319 --> 00:07:38,519 arrested on suspicion of a sexual assault and in jail. 155 00:07:38,759 --> 00:07:42,680 So tomorrow he has an arraignment where he will appear 156 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:49,759 and face these charges. Kind of a preliminary thing that 157 00:07:49,839 --> 00:07:52,319 happens in a criminal case, and so we don't know 158 00:07:52,439 --> 00:07:55,439 a ton yet. All we know is that this involved 159 00:07:56,879 --> 00:08:03,800 an inappropriate relationship with a staff and so from University 160 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:08,480 of Michigan standpoint, you know that constituted, you know, a 161 00:08:08,639 --> 00:08:12,279 fireboll of sense that they could fire him for cause, 162 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,839 and what that means is they get out of his 163 00:08:14,959 --> 00:08:20,319 contract for paying him anything. Some some nine to one 164 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,240 one calls were just recently released because it's been hard 165 00:08:24,279 --> 00:08:28,879 to find anything on the underlying allegations with this staffer 166 00:08:28,959 --> 00:08:31,079 and what happened. But one of the nine to one 167 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,159 one calls indicated that he'd been stocking her for months, 168 00:08:34,799 --> 00:08:37,440 I think is what the caller said, and then he 169 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,600 had a knife something about that. And then the other 170 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,039 call was really involved came from it looks like his wife, 171 00:08:44,799 --> 00:08:48,559 who indicated that he was suicidal over losing his job. 172 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,480 And so we've also learned that he's been placed on 173 00:08:51,799 --> 00:08:56,639 a mental health watch of some sort of suicide watch. So, uh, 174 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:02,559 sad story. Things are really raveling for Sean Moore after 175 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,120 a nine to three season at Michigan where things were 176 00:09:06,159 --> 00:09:11,440 looking on, you know, on the rise there. But like 177 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,039 I said, tomorrow with with the arraignment, where we're going 178 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,440 to know probably a lot more after. 179 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 4: Tomorrow, man, sad sad dealings. Right, you can go from 180 00:09:21,799 --> 00:09:24,360 top to bottom real quick. You got to keep the 181 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,759 trauma limited. The uh you know, there's some rules in 182 00:09:28,879 --> 00:09:31,679 life that you need to abide by to stay out 183 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,919 of the uh, the negative the negative limelight, if you will. 184 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,320 So hopefully everything turns out okay. But I feel for 185 00:09:39,399 --> 00:09:40,720 his family and his children. 186 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 6: Uh. 187 00:09:41,759 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 4: And so let's uh, I don't know what's going to 188 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,679 happen tomorrow. Then, I mean, they're going to be a 189 00:09:46,799 --> 00:09:49,840 rain tomorrow. So what what's the next proceedings in this 190 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,159 uh uh this more case? 191 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 6: Would you say, Well, those charges are going to be 192 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,279 read to him. He's going to have a chance to 193 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,519 plead guilty or not guilty. I assume he's gonna plead 194 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,919 not guilty. I think we'll see that. So I'm sure 195 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:10,120 he's should be consulting with counsel at this point to 196 00:10:10,279 --> 00:10:14,279 talk about that. But again, these are just the preliminary 197 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,799 stages in the criminal case against him. Not to say 198 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,960 there couldn't even be on the other side of civil 199 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,320 case with the University of Michigan. But you know, they 200 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,559 were pretty quick to pull the trigger on this and 201 00:10:26,799 --> 00:10:29,159 and just fire him and not wait for any kind 202 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,159 of outcome. I mean, there was some indication that this 203 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:37,120 investigation had been going on for some months or weeks, right, 204 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,600 that they'd known about this relationship. 205 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: Or didn't know. 206 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 6: And I mean those are kind of some of the 207 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,519 things that will happen on the you know, sort of 208 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,320 the personnel side of this with the University of Michigan, 209 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,440 But the criminal side, it's a totally different animal. 210 00:10:50,919 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 4: Let's get over to well, staying on the gridiron, Georgia 211 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,879 seeks to sue to recover four hundred thousand dollars for 212 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:03,240 nil deal reach from an edge rusher who transferred Tomsy. 213 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,639 We wondered kind of like how they if there would 214 00:11:05,639 --> 00:11:09,080 be any sort of accountability on the Nile front when 215 00:11:09,519 --> 00:11:13,399 these agreements, these deals go awry give us the latest 216 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:13,960 on this one. 217 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know these are these nil contracts 218 00:11:18,399 --> 00:11:22,799 or contracts, right, and in contracts, both parties have responsibilities. 219 00:11:22,879 --> 00:11:25,399 You know, the player wants to get paid. If he 220 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,279 wasn't get paid, we'd sure hear about it, wouldn't we 221 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,080 If he wasn't getting his checks, we'd absolutely hear about. 222 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,840 But this is an interesting one. It involves a player, 223 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,679 Damon Wilson, who in twenty twenty four played for Georgia. 224 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,279 Was a pretty good player, and at the end of 225 00:11:40,519 --> 00:11:43,879 twenty twenty four he an nil bill with Georgia with 226 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,879 what's called Classic City Collective, which was at that time 227 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:51,799 Georgia's you know, collective group, for five hundred thousand dollars 228 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,279 to be paid in fourteen payments of roughly thirty four 229 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,600 thirty to forty thousand dollars payment. After the first of 230 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,039 the year, he all of a sudden bounces to Missouri 231 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,799 to go play and he played from this whole last 232 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,960 season and actually he played pretty good. He had a 233 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,039 really good nine sacks, nine and a half tackles for loss. 234 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,639 And what Georgia decided to do they decided to sue 235 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,399 him and your first thought is, well, they're suing him 236 00:12:19,399 --> 00:12:22,720 because he got five hundred grand and didn't play for him. 237 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,840 Well that's not the case. He only got one payment, 238 00:12:25,279 --> 00:12:28,039 so essentially thirty grand. And then he left, and I'm 239 00:12:28,039 --> 00:12:31,279 sure he took a deal with Missouri, which probably was 240 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,120 as good or better than that. And now Georgia is 241 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,159 suing him, and the basis for it isn't their actual damage. 242 00:12:37,919 --> 00:12:40,159 They're suon him based on a clause in the contract 243 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,720 for liquidated damages. And this is this is really interesting. 244 00:12:44,799 --> 00:12:47,600 And then I caught l contract. But in many contracts 245 00:12:47,639 --> 00:12:50,799 there is a liquid damage clause that says, if either 246 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,159 of you breach this and we can't really ascertain the damages, 247 00:12:54,799 --> 00:12:56,840 you have to pay x amount. We're just setting it here, 248 00:12:56,879 --> 00:12:59,360 and everyone agrees to it, realizing we're coming into this 249 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,039 in good faith. We're all gonna work hard to keep 250 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,480 the contract going. But if one of us doesn't do it, 251 00:13:05,159 --> 00:13:08,080 you know, then I have to pay this amount in 252 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:09,759 addition to the reach I got to pay this amount. Well, 253 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,360 that was in his contract in Georgia. Surprisingly, it's not 254 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,000 a really great look. Is going after him for four 255 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:20,000 hundred thousand dollars And I don't know how this, Well, 256 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:21,639 I do think I know what it turns out. I'll 257 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,840 bet Georgia drops this lawsuit. But maybe they're trying to 258 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,159 make a statement. Maybe they're mad that he had a 259 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,720 bunch of sacks against Georgia this year and really put 260 00:13:29,799 --> 00:13:30,840 him to the task. I don't know. 261 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, you wonder. 262 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 4: I mean there's definitely a little enmity that is created 263 00:13:35,399 --> 00:13:40,679 when you know these deals go awry, and you know 264 00:13:40,799 --> 00:13:43,480 you want to see there's got to be some sort accountability, right. 265 00:13:43,519 --> 00:13:45,559 I don't know what the legality of it is, but 266 00:13:45,759 --> 00:13:48,399 they're gonna try it and then set a precedent. Has 267 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:53,440 there been any precedent set for these bleached nil deals yet? 268 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 5: Well, we've seen one before and it didn't go well 269 00:13:57,159 --> 00:13:59,039 for the university. This is kind of the person we're seeing, 270 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,960 and I'm the prize Georgia is doing it in this case. Now, 271 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,519 if they'd had made him a big payment, like let's 272 00:14:04,519 --> 00:14:07,039 say that the deal had been structured at we're going 273 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:08,480 to pay you a two hundred and fifty grand now 274 00:14:08,519 --> 00:14:10,639 and then spread the rest of them out over fourteen months, 275 00:14:10,919 --> 00:14:13,320 but they didn't. He only got thirty thousand dollars. So 276 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,080 really their real damage is thirty thousand dollars in losing 277 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,559 a good player. Some of the president is when coaches 278 00:14:20,679 --> 00:14:24,120 leave they have two years left on the contract or whatever. 279 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,879 Universities don't come after them and say, hey, wait a minute, 280 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,360 there was you know this mouth And apparently I think 281 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,840 the lawyers are the agents looking at this, they probably 282 00:14:34,879 --> 00:14:37,039 should have said, hey, we can't agree to a liquidated 283 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:42,159 damage clause, because what happens today in world, in the 284 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:46,559 world of college football, players are unpredictable, They're fickle. They 285 00:14:46,759 --> 00:14:49,039 jump as quick as they can when another deal comes, 286 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,679 and you can't keep track of it, you know, especially 287 00:14:51,799 --> 00:14:54,759 when there were so many transfer portal windows last year. 288 00:14:54,799 --> 00:14:58,159 I think it's now just one window. But yeah, the 289 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,000 agent agreeing to that is it's kind of a problem, 290 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,639 you know. I mean, from a contract standpoint, Georgia may 291 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:09,080 have a legitimate argument, you know, but from a damage standpoint, 292 00:15:09,159 --> 00:15:10,519 they don't. So we'll see. 293 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 4: Okay, we'll see how that plays out. Let's move on 294 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,960 to Congress. They cancel vote on the Score Act for 295 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,240 now courts have control. What is the Score Act and 296 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:21,120 why does this matter? 297 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: Jens? 298 00:15:23,799 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 6: Well, the Score Act stands for the Student Compensation and 299 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:34,879 Opportunity Through Rights and Endorsements Act. This is Congress's effort 300 00:15:35,279 --> 00:15:38,279 to try to rein in all of the chaos in 301 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,200 college sports right and try to put in place some 302 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,720 legislation so that we can have some stability, some predictability 303 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,840 in college sports, especially in these areas of nil transferportal, 304 00:15:51,879 --> 00:15:54,639 this sort of thing. But one of the big things 305 00:15:54,639 --> 00:15:56,080 that the law would have done is it would have 306 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:00,720 given antitrust protection to the NCAA and anti trust protection, 307 00:16:00,879 --> 00:16:03,759 something that we've seen in other major league sports where 308 00:16:03,799 --> 00:16:07,159 you have collective bargaining and that sort of thing, and 309 00:16:07,519 --> 00:16:11,279 you know, these are employees. College is different. They're not employees. 310 00:16:11,399 --> 00:16:14,799 That the law, this SCORE Act, would also say that 311 00:16:14,879 --> 00:16:19,879 they're not employees. College athletes are not employees. And so 312 00:16:20,279 --> 00:16:21,960 it looked like for a little while that there was 313 00:16:22,039 --> 00:16:24,879 some bipartisan support for this bill, that maybe it was 314 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,639 gonna you know, we're going to get it was going 315 00:16:26,679 --> 00:16:30,000 to get some traction. But it's been tabled. Now they're 316 00:16:30,039 --> 00:16:32,440 going to kick the can down the road. Maybe that's 317 00:16:32,519 --> 00:16:35,720 not a surprise to people to hear that, but I 318 00:16:35,799 --> 00:16:39,120 thought this was an interesting stat then that since twenty twenty, 319 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,759 more than forty bills have been introduced into Congress to 320 00:16:42,879 --> 00:16:45,960 try to reform college sports. None of them have passed 321 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,720 into law, and so it's a real uphill battle. Even 322 00:16:49,759 --> 00:16:52,600 if it is bipartisan, and even if everybody's frustrated and 323 00:16:52,679 --> 00:16:56,720 wants to see some stability in college sports, this may 324 00:16:56,799 --> 00:16:58,480 not be the way to do it. We may need to, 325 00:16:59,279 --> 00:17:01,759 you know, we may need to have the n CUBA, 326 00:17:02,559 --> 00:17:05,480 the schools, the conferences need to get together and put 327 00:17:05,519 --> 00:17:09,720 together their own, you know, their own laws to live 328 00:17:09,799 --> 00:17:12,720 by that aren't going to run a foul of antitrust 329 00:17:12,799 --> 00:17:14,680 laws because because that seems to be where all the 330 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,039 trouble comes up and all the you know, constant lawsuits 331 00:17:18,599 --> 00:17:22,960 that we see against against the cub A crazy times. 332 00:17:23,319 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 4: One of the craziest things that happened in college athletics 333 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,160 will occurred here in the state of Utah. 334 00:17:28,319 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: This week. 335 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 4: Utah made a deal with the devil I'm kidding, Private 336 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,720 Equity and OTRO Capital there. 337 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: You know, this is crazy. 338 00:17:38,599 --> 00:17:40,759 Speaker 4: Give me a brief background of what you guys know 339 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,920 about this deal and then we'll get into some of 340 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,759 the legality of it all. 341 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean, I don't know a lot about 342 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,079 the deal, only what I've read and that is that, 343 00:17:53,759 --> 00:17:58,039 you know, breaking news. UNI rec of Utah Athletic Department 344 00:17:58,279 --> 00:18:01,720 entered into it. They created a for profit company called 345 00:18:01,799 --> 00:18:08,839 Utah Brands and Entertainment, and they would control ticketing, sponsorships, events, 346 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,599 And they entered into a deal with Outro Capital, a 347 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,799 private equity firm in New York, a firm that has 348 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,559 experience in the sports world in investing in teams and 349 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,200 leagues and that type of thing. And you know, the 350 00:18:22,279 --> 00:18:24,240 firms are there. They're going to get five hundred million 351 00:18:24,319 --> 00:18:28,000 in capital. And you know, obviously the thing motivating this 352 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,880 is to try competitive in this. I hate that we 353 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,480 even talk about this in this college football world that 354 00:18:33,799 --> 00:18:36,160 you know that that's what it comes has come down to. 355 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,559 I'm a grumpy old man who liked the old system, 356 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,640 you know. But I think the NCAA did. I think 357 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,160 the NCAA didn't handle it correctly. They should have got 358 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,240 ahead of it and players received compensation in some form 359 00:18:49,319 --> 00:18:51,519 or another. But you know, so we don't know a 360 00:18:51,559 --> 00:18:55,640 lot about this. The terms are basically that there'll be 361 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,119 a I think one of the big things that saw 362 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:58,880 me I said, well, who has control of this and 363 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:03,039 I'll talk about it is the board is gonna be 364 00:19:03,039 --> 00:19:05,039 seven members. It's going to be the ad of the U, 365 00:19:05,559 --> 00:19:09,720 three Foundation members, two Ultra Capital members, and then a 366 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,519 h an investor member or something, you know, And I 367 00:19:13,599 --> 00:19:16,880 think the U maintains control of this, That's what it's 368 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:17,759 kind of looking at. 369 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:18,799 Speaker 1: You know. 370 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 5: And so, uh, it's going to change some of the 371 00:19:21,519 --> 00:19:24,680 booster issues. You know, Apparently there's a chance to if 372 00:19:24,759 --> 00:19:28,359 you are qualified investor, you can invest in the uh, 373 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,400 you know, the entered sport Utah brands and entertainment. You know, 374 00:19:31,599 --> 00:19:35,440 like any other investment, it's a big wait and see. 375 00:19:35,319 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 7: You know on this. 376 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 5: You know, there's a lot of legalities that will go 377 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,960 into setting this up, obviously the transaction of that. But 378 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,240 you know, just it was just kind of it's probably 379 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:48,720 much to do it about nothing but thinking about some legalities. 380 00:19:48,759 --> 00:19:51,039 And the reason this came up is because a legislator 381 00:19:52,079 --> 00:19:55,880 don't even know who it was, injected humor herself into 382 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,640 the conversation by saying, well, wait, wait a minute, did 383 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,599 the you really just do this without going through the 384 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,640 normal processes? Did we just sell off a part of 385 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:10,039 our state agency to private equity? And I think what 386 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,640 they're staying there from the legal standpoint is there are 387 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:17,519 processes when state agencies enter into contracts. You know, for example, 388 00:20:17,559 --> 00:20:20,200 if it's U DOT and there's a big project, they 389 00:20:20,319 --> 00:20:22,960 send it out to a bunch of contracting groups that 390 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,079 want to do the work, and you know, and there's 391 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:29,000 probably a bidding process that they have to do by law, 392 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,720 and so did they comply with that? I don't know. 393 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,920 Maybe it hasn't been a done deal yet. And you know, 394 00:20:35,759 --> 00:20:38,119 if there's a lot of Utah fans on the legislature, 395 00:20:38,559 --> 00:20:41,240 they'll be in favor of it. But you know, then 396 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,240 what happens if private equity comes in and says, hey, 397 00:20:44,319 --> 00:20:46,359 we need to pay these people less, we need to 398 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,160 skinny down these staffs. People get fired and lose their 399 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,960 jobs of state agencies. Does that create legal issues? I 400 00:20:53,039 --> 00:20:55,920 don't know. I'm just thinking like a lawyer and throwing 401 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,720 these potential legal issues out there. But it's probably the 402 00:20:59,759 --> 00:21:02,160 way of the future. I don't think the University of 403 00:21:02,279 --> 00:21:05,480 Utah is the Uh. They're the first, but not the 404 00:21:05,599 --> 00:21:09,160 last school to to jump into this realm, you know, 405 00:21:09,279 --> 00:21:11,599 and uh, I think you know, some schools have a 406 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:16,119 bunch of billionaires that are gonna stay invested in it, 407 00:21:16,279 --> 00:21:19,359 like Texas Tech guy. I think he's just committed to it, 408 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,759 and so maybe they don't need to go down that road. 409 00:21:21,799 --> 00:21:23,119 But it's really an interesting deal. 410 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: Well it's uh, it's very much intriguing to me. 411 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 4: And like the you know, the Title nine component to 412 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,759 this is intriguing to me as well, because if you 413 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:39,400 separate football from everybody else, you know, for it's a 414 00:21:39,519 --> 00:21:42,519 for profit entity. I don't know how that how that 415 00:21:42,759 --> 00:21:45,880 works with scholarships and and things of that nature. 416 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: So very much intrigued by guys. 417 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,519 Speaker 5: Go ahead, you hire you hire Jane as a placekicker, 418 00:21:52,319 --> 00:21:53,880 and then that'll take care of it. 419 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:55,759 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, that's it. 420 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:02,079 Speaker 5: Issues. Private equity certainly isn't thinking about Title nine. And 421 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,720 that's something that public universities who receive federal funding, you know, 422 00:22:06,319 --> 00:22:08,759 could come into play totally. Because this is what I think, 423 00:22:09,039 --> 00:22:12,079 this is really all about football. Right, What if private 424 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:13,960 probably equity comes in and says, hey, you know what 425 00:22:14,759 --> 00:22:18,079 that national championships ski team of yours that's been making 426 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,039 national championships for years and years, we need to cut that. 427 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,200 You know, that's not bringing any money. You know again, 428 00:22:24,599 --> 00:22:29,039 anybody coming in on this, I'm just hypothesizing speculating someone 429 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,119 might go out there, Oh my gosh, the you's cutting 430 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,119 their ski program. 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Let's 506 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,839 get to it. Let's click into it. Hey, hey, you 507 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,680 asked me questions. I'm answering it, and I hear I 508 00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:05,480 hear program in my ear and I'm like, what are 509 00:26:05,559 --> 00:26:06,319 we doing right now? 510 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: What we're long? Gryby? 511 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 8: Hey, Hey, I'm hungry. I didn't delayed. I told I 512 00:26:12,799 --> 00:26:16,599 told my girlfriend number two, like yo, like, hey, come 513 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,559 in fifteen minutes. You know what I'm saying. Like anyway, 514 00:26:20,559 --> 00:26:22,960 it's always good to hear your voice. Man, it's always 515 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,079 a blessing. I love you and I would do almost 516 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,400 anything for you. And when I mean almost, I mean 517 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,000 I probably want to give up my kids for you, 518 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,680 But anything else I. 519 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 4: Would do that love and appreciate you below below, Hey, 520 00:26:35,319 --> 00:26:37,920 this season, it's been a special one. Twenty twenty five 521 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,599 has been special. It's an eleven and two season. Now, 522 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,960 we've had many eleven and two seasons. Well, not that, Maig, 523 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,039 you know, but we've had double digit win seasons. You've 524 00:26:46,079 --> 00:26:48,480 had You've been a part of that. An eleven and 525 00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:50,880 two season in two thousand and nine. I was a 526 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,480 part of a couple in O six oh seven. There's 527 00:26:53,519 --> 00:26:57,480 been the ninety six season was was a tremendous season. 528 00:26:57,519 --> 00:26:59,319 Fourteen and one, two thousand and one, there was a 529 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,519 twelve win seat season. Look, I feel like this is 530 00:27:02,519 --> 00:27:04,599 one of the best seasons in BA football history because 531 00:27:04,599 --> 00:27:07,039 of the strength of schedule and you you made it 532 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,759 to a big twelve championship game. 533 00:27:09,319 --> 00:27:10,079 Speaker 1: How do you see it? 534 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 4: How magical? How special was this season for the fans, 535 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:14,680 for the media, for the players. 536 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I think the fact that we went 537 00:27:19,519 --> 00:27:23,279 to a championship game a conference championship game and like 538 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,240 a power for conference championship game is what makes it special. 539 00:27:28,319 --> 00:27:30,839 The other seasons. You know, some of those I can't, 540 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,079 I can't relate to. I was like three. I know, 541 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,799 I know you like Kicky, but I was too I 542 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,839 was too young. I was too young to be aware. 543 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,000 But I think I think the difference if you were 544 00:27:44,039 --> 00:27:48,839 to remove that the conference championship this year, I think 545 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,440 that the talent that b y you currently has on 546 00:27:53,519 --> 00:27:58,880 the roster versus the talent that they played and defeated, 547 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,000 and how they won games as far as complete blowouts, 548 00:28:04,039 --> 00:28:07,839 as far as coming back and being on the road 549 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:13,759 and certain situations that were really critical in each you know, 550 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,599 at certain points of the season. I think that's what 551 00:28:16,759 --> 00:28:20,519 makes it really special. You know, Uncle uncle Be who 552 00:28:20,599 --> 00:28:25,240 I loved and adore more than anything. When I'm with 553 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,920 him on our pregame, post game or whenever doing shows 554 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,240 on by U TV, you know, I really get a 555 00:28:30,279 --> 00:28:33,559 lot of insights and you know he put from from 556 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,559 him and when he was you know, when he played 557 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:41,119 and that eighty four championship team. And what's interesting is 558 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,599 they didn't know that they want that they won a 559 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:48,920 championship game until it was over right, So there was 560 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,880 a different type of voting system and structure back then 561 00:28:52,319 --> 00:28:56,039 and and this season and where we're at right. 562 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,359 Speaker 7: Now in the modern day is like you win and 563 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,640 you're in, or if if if you win and and 564 00:29:04,839 --> 00:29:06,359 this team loses, then you're in. 565 00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:10,039 Speaker 8: So there's a lot more I think pressure on these 566 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:15,359 teams nowadays when heading into certain games based off of 567 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:20,039 certain situations, and I think that brings so much more 568 00:29:20,119 --> 00:29:24,720 excitement right like, like there's so much more anticipation and 569 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,000 so much more awareness and so much more I think 570 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,039 fans being engaged. And I think when you when you 571 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,039 think about all those things I just said versus you know, 572 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,160 figuring out if you're if you're the conference championship at 573 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,240 the last game, I think it carries a little bit 574 00:29:44,319 --> 00:29:46,079 more weight, you know, and that that's just that's just 575 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,759 my opinion. I'm not taking anything away from from those 576 00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:52,720 teams or whatnot, but I think I think it's supperate 577 00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:55,400 to win in the modern era, that is, you know, 578 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,359 in previous eras, especially when especially the areas like you 579 00:29:58,440 --> 00:29:58,599 and I. 580 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: Played it, h no doubt about it. 581 00:30:01,759 --> 00:30:05,079 Speaker 4: It's a tougher schedule back to back to back, but 582 00:30:05,279 --> 00:30:09,240 they also have more resources. They also recruit on have depth, 583 00:30:09,839 --> 00:30:12,720 a little bit more depth in what we had, et cetera. 584 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,480 So you take it all into account. You know that 585 00:30:15,519 --> 00:30:17,240 two thousand and nine season was a special one. 586 00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:17,799 Speaker 1: There's no doubt. 587 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 4: You have one of the best victories in BUA football 588 00:30:20,039 --> 00:30:23,839 history number three Oklahoma at Cowboys Stadium in Orlington. BA 589 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,759 wasn't able to revive really of that magic in the 590 00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:30,640 Big Twelve Championship unfortunately, but that was a great win. 591 00:30:30,759 --> 00:30:33,640 You lost to Florida State, lost to TCU, but then 592 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,200 you finish off the season with a win over number 593 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,079 twenty two Utah in ot That was a great win 594 00:30:40,279 --> 00:30:42,640 at Lavelle Edwards. And then you knocked off number sixteen 595 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,359 team in the country, Oregon State in the Vegas Ball 596 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:45,960 was at that game. 597 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: It was a great game. 598 00:30:49,599 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't really count that win against Oklahoma anymore 599 00:30:52,759 --> 00:30:57,640 like special. I mean in the moment, okay, okay, I 600 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,039 said that was that came across bad. Let me take 601 00:31:02,039 --> 00:31:08,319 a step back in the moment at that time, it 602 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:14,240 was amazing. I can't thank you, know, baby Jesus enough 603 00:31:14,519 --> 00:31:17,000 for putting me in that situation and allowing me to 604 00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:19,759 be a part of that, uh and a part of 605 00:31:20,559 --> 00:31:22,920 you know, this program at that at that time. I 606 00:31:23,119 --> 00:31:27,000 loved when we landed, how there was man so many 607 00:31:27,079 --> 00:31:31,640 people waiting for us on the tarmac and in the airport. 608 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,920 I loved the videos that I seen, and yes, this 609 00:31:36,079 --> 00:31:41,960 is the beginning of videos on phones, but I love 610 00:31:42,079 --> 00:31:48,079 seeing how you know, there there were students and they 611 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,759 were like rushing and celebrating in intersections, you know, by 612 00:31:52,839 --> 00:31:56,119 the school. I love, I love I love seeing all that, 613 00:31:56,319 --> 00:31:58,440 and so it was it was a great moment moment 614 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,559 like for anybody that was involved, from athletes to fans, 615 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,559 to staff, et cetera, alumni, et cetera. But at the 616 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,519 end of the day, they finished like eighty five, you know. 617 00:32:10,759 --> 00:32:13,799 So to us it's like, well, how to me a second? Well, 618 00:32:13,839 --> 00:32:15,599 how good were they? 619 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:16,599 Speaker 6: You know? 620 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 8: And this goes into a deeper conversation of what we're 621 00:32:20,279 --> 00:32:23,000 dealing with right now. You have all these teams that 622 00:32:23,079 --> 00:32:26,319 are ranked preseason, and then we go through the season 623 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,039 and a lot of them aren't ranked, a lot of 624 00:32:28,079 --> 00:32:30,720 them aren't as good as we thought they were. And 625 00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:33,960 then you have other teams that were never ranked and 626 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,640 weren't part of the discussion. And then towards the end 627 00:32:36,759 --> 00:32:40,960 they are so yeah, it was it was good. It 628 00:32:41,079 --> 00:32:45,480 was a great win. I loved the environment, and man, 629 00:32:45,559 --> 00:32:48,000 that was my first game as a D one athlete, 630 00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:51,400 coming from a junior college and to have my first 631 00:32:51,599 --> 00:32:55,680 game be in a professional and a pro NFL stadium. 632 00:32:55,799 --> 00:32:58,680 I mean, I couldn't ask for anything, and it's a 633 00:32:58,759 --> 00:33:03,279 better storyline. But you know, at the very end of 634 00:33:03,319 --> 00:33:05,200 the day, I think we can talk about this too 635 00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:07,440 with like Miami, right, I don't think when when BYU 636 00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:09,519 beat Miami, I don't even know if they finished or 637 00:33:09,559 --> 00:33:12,839 maybe they were the only ones you know that finished 638 00:33:12,839 --> 00:33:15,440 that we're in the top you know, ten or top five. 639 00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:17,480 I mean that's something that that you know, you guys 640 00:33:17,519 --> 00:33:23,720 get are great at great Gregor Bell. When it comes 641 00:33:23,799 --> 00:33:25,720 to teams that were ranked at the beginning of the 642 00:33:25,799 --> 00:33:28,200 season and or the highest teams that were ranked at 643 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,359 b YU won in its history, and where did they finish, 644 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,799 because I think we have to take that into consideration, 645 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,680 which obviously the College Football Playoffs is doing that right now. 646 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Miami in nineteen ninety only had two losses, 647 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,960 just so you know, they lost to b YU, who's 648 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:45,400 a good. 649 00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: Team that year. 650 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,119 Speaker 4: Obviously in nineteen ninety and they lost the number six 651 00:33:48,319 --> 00:33:50,119 Notre Dame by. 652 00:33:50,079 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: They finished ranked. I believe it looks like number three 653 00:33:56,759 --> 00:33:57,279 in the nation. 654 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 8: They that's the best when they they they ended up. 655 00:34:01,559 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 4: Number three in the nation because they had well, they 656 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,960 had two losses. They ended up beating number three Texas 657 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,880 in the Cotton Bowl that year and they destroyed them 658 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,559 forty six to three. 659 00:34:11,159 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 1: In fact, so. 660 00:34:14,599 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 4: Remember BYU in nineteen ninety they they beat my and 661 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:23,079 they beat Miami. They lost the Oregon number. I want 662 00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:25,440 to say, I don't know if Oregon was ranked at 663 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,239 that time. They ended up losing to Hawaii late in 664 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,800 the season, that was at Hawaii, and then they lost 665 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,280 to Texas A and M in the bowl game. Uh 666 00:34:33,519 --> 00:34:37,199 so they started hot, they didn't end so so well 667 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,519 at the end of the season. They got the pride cycle. 668 00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:41,239 They didn't stay humble, they didn't stay. 669 00:34:41,079 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 8: Hungry, or maybe they had injuries. 670 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:45,760 Speaker 4: In the. 671 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,679 Speaker 8: Sea. I think I just think that, you know, to 672 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:55,199 answer your question, you know, more more directly, if we're 673 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,440 if we're using the same standards now and we're going 674 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:04,280 off with the standards of the criteria of the College 675 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,639 Football Playoff Committee, which is definitely flawed and there's definitely 676 00:35:08,679 --> 00:35:11,760 a conspiracy there. As a side note, but if we're 677 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,840 using that those metrics and that criteria, we have to 678 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,920 take into account where that team finished, you know, not 679 00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:24,400 just where they're ranked when you beat them, and from 680 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,440 what you just said, I would say, I would say 681 00:35:26,679 --> 00:35:29,880 that that's probably the best win in BYU history now 682 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,079 at the moments, at the moment, you know, I think 683 00:35:33,519 --> 00:35:37,320 we can have an argument that when BYU played them 684 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:42,400 in in the nineties versus the moment of when we 685 00:35:42,519 --> 00:35:45,280 played them, you know, in two thousand and nine Oklahoma 686 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:46,079 in two thousand and nine. 687 00:35:46,559 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 6: For sure. 688 00:35:48,519 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 4: Well, it's been an awesome season. It's been a magical season, 689 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,920 no doubt about it. What were your preseason expectations and 690 00:35:56,039 --> 00:35:57,760 how many wins did they get? 691 00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,679 Speaker 1: Get over that preseason expectation? 692 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 8: I mean, I mean the goal that I set for 693 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,679 these guys was just make it to a bowl game. 694 00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:11,280 And I've been you know, two thousand and ten. It 695 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,000 was my senior year and we started winning for we 696 00:36:15,159 --> 00:36:20,679 made history in a negative way and we were scrapping 697 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,119 and clawing just to get the seniors to a bowl game, 698 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,280 to to to finish the season off strong. Yes, for 699 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,320 you know, the freshmen and for recruiting and all the 700 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,920 stuff that that that comes with with wins and losses. 701 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,440 But our sole focus at that point was to get 702 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,400 to make sure the seniors, Like, let's do it for 703 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,039 the seniors. The seniors came on board as freshman's and 704 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:49,119 they have the same blood, sweat and tears and dedication 705 00:36:50,159 --> 00:36:52,920 and uh, you know that that you guys have right now, 706 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,360 and so it's it's it's it's on us to to 707 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,599 you know, make sure that they that they in their careers, 708 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,800 you know, right, because because the latter years that they 709 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,199 went through everything and that they were part of the program, 710 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,760 they sent the seniors off right, and that you know, 711 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,519 big shout out to Matt Marshall. He's the one that 712 00:37:12,639 --> 00:37:15,400 gave that gave that speech. So I appreciate him for that. 713 00:37:16,119 --> 00:37:19,679 And that was my mindset was for this year, coming 714 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,880 this year, especially after after well prior to Jake, I 715 00:37:23,079 --> 00:37:24,920 was like, man, if we don't go to a conference 716 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,599 championship game, I'm quitting b YU TV being better than 717 00:37:28,639 --> 00:37:30,639 that called me. I'm not talking to nobody, it's not 718 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,079 doing no media nothing. I hate this team. 719 00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: Uh. 720 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 8: That was my expectations. Then then when Jake left, I 721 00:37:36,639 --> 00:37:38,840 was like, okay, Fellows, let's just make it to a 722 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,679 bowl game. And and that was my expectations going in. 723 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,840 And so as the season started to unfold, I really 724 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,079 realized that Jake wasn't the most important piece of this 725 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,880 team and specifically the offense. And I think you have 726 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,280 to give a lot of credit to obviously Bear and 727 00:37:57,079 --> 00:37:59,840 him being able to perform at the level that he 728 00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:04,320 he he he did as a true freshman, but even 729 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,360 more so, you got to give credit to a Rod 730 00:38:06,599 --> 00:38:09,880 and for for him to be able to figure out 731 00:38:10,519 --> 00:38:15,719 what his analyze the situation, analyze the pieces that he has, 732 00:38:16,119 --> 00:38:18,639 and to be able to put a game plan in 733 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,679 for the offense week in and week out, to put 734 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,000 them in positions to be successful and to execute and 735 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,000 and and he did that. So you know, I love 736 00:38:29,079 --> 00:38:32,159 Kline to death and and I'm you know, happy and 737 00:38:32,519 --> 00:38:36,599 grateful and that he won Coach of the Year for 738 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,519 the Big Twelve. But I think it should be a Rod, 739 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,079 even though you know he's he's the offensive court and 740 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,320 I think it should be a Rod for what for 741 00:38:44,519 --> 00:38:46,599 everything that he's had to go through. 742 00:38:47,039 --> 00:38:48,760 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, let's talk about that for a moment here, 743 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,639 there's a lot of haters out there that they'll that 744 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,000 don't think a Rod is a good offense cornertor they 745 00:38:53,039 --> 00:38:54,960 want to go they want to part ways with him, 746 00:38:55,039 --> 00:38:58,000 they want to get rid of them. Like, what's your reaction, 747 00:38:58,119 --> 00:39:00,559 what's your rebuttal to those haters that I just don't 748 00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:03,599 think a Rod put together a good enough offense. 749 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 1: This year and in prior years. 750 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,199 Speaker 8: Yeah, reminds me of some of my ex girlfriends. Like, 751 00:39:11,639 --> 00:39:17,639 you know, I you know, like there's a million things 752 00:39:17,679 --> 00:39:19,719 that I do right, and then as soon as there's 753 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,320 one thing that I do wrong that's not that's not 754 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,480 even on the level of being like being able to 755 00:39:26,679 --> 00:39:30,599 like like being able to break up with somebody break 756 00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:33,199 up with me is like, oh, I'm sorry, like I 757 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,119 forgot to tell you I was going to be fifteen 758 00:39:36,159 --> 00:39:38,760 minutes late, Like my bad. But what about the zillion 759 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,880 other things I've done right? I feel like it's like that, 760 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:49,519 you know, it's it's it's oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, 761 00:39:49,559 --> 00:39:52,920 I'm hey. This is a little therapy for me. Yeah, 762 00:39:53,119 --> 00:39:56,360 but but but think about that, like like okay, being 763 00:39:56,559 --> 00:40:00,559 being real, being real, right and really comparing the analogy 764 00:40:00,639 --> 00:40:06,320 analogies when you're so good at something and you constantly 765 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:11,400 hit that mark, it's expected that you're going to continue 766 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,880 to hit that mark. And so when you do one 767 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,199 thing wrong, when you call a bad play or you 768 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,119 call a bad game, all that like that, because you 769 00:40:21,199 --> 00:40:25,159 didn't hit that mark, it's so below and because because 770 00:40:25,199 --> 00:40:27,679 you were hitting that mark at such a consistent level, 771 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,559 that gap of not hitting that mark at one time 772 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:37,920 compared to the consistency of greatness, it's so drastic that 773 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,320 that that their brains turned to, oh my gosh, we 774 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,000 have to fire because they're not used to it, right, 775 00:40:44,039 --> 00:40:47,039 They're not used to they're not used to that that 776 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,920 low of a performance. And I think fans and analysts 777 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,920 we have to understand that, and especially with with with 778 00:40:56,119 --> 00:40:58,760 BYU and the church and the Gospel, we have to 779 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:03,280 understand that nobody's part. And you know, the grass is 780 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,320 not greener on the other side. It's not. It's just 781 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,960 that's just a simple fact that in life. And so 782 00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:12,239 I think when you when you look at the macro 783 00:41:12,599 --> 00:41:15,119 perspective and you and you look at the full body 784 00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:17,159 of work from when a rod came on board to 785 00:41:17,199 --> 00:41:20,800 where he's at now. The number one thing as fans 786 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,800 that we want to that that that we should judge 787 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,719 him off if is not a bad game or a 788 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,360 play call. It's it's it's growth. Now, I think that's 789 00:41:28,639 --> 00:41:31,800 that's in everything in our lives, right in every area 790 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,920 of our lives and especially relationships and whatnot. It's it's growth. 791 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,280 And you look at when he stepped on the campus, 792 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,000 all the way until now this very moment that you 793 00:41:41,119 --> 00:41:46,239 and I are talking. Man, we the growth is there. 794 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,480 Look at the stats, look at the data. You could 795 00:41:48,519 --> 00:41:51,519 be extremely objective when you when you go that route 796 00:41:51,559 --> 00:41:55,000 and not subjective. The subjective comes when it's because our 797 00:41:55,039 --> 00:41:57,920 feelings are hurt, because we're mad. You know, maybe somebody 798 00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,599 put a little money on something, you know what I mean? 799 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,840 Like this a lot of different variables of why we 800 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,280 get mad from a subjective standpoint, but being objective and 801 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,880 looking at the data and looking at how many quarterbacks 802 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,760 he's developed and he's sent to the league, and how 803 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:17,119 many recruits that he's he's brought on, and and the 804 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,559 games that he's won. I mean, come on, man, look 805 00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:21,639 at the last couple of years. These guys only lost 806 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,519 like what three games? Four games? Like kid, I get 807 00:42:24,559 --> 00:42:25,239 out of here with that. 808 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,039 Speaker 4: It's pretty crazy. Man, A Rod deserves as flowers. He's 809 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,199 he's a Broils Awards semi finalist. He may be a 810 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,239 finalist for all I know. I haven't updated, I haven't 811 00:42:37,159 --> 00:42:39,880 taking a look at it recently, but give the. 812 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,159 Speaker 1: Mad As flowers, man, I don't know. 813 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 4: There has never been an offensive coordinator ever at BYU 814 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,519 that has been heralded, that has been liked at at 815 00:42:47,679 --> 00:42:50,639 at b AU. It's the most it's more difficult than 816 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,639 being the head coach at b YU, I think is 817 00:42:52,679 --> 00:42:53,079 the OC. 818 00:42:53,639 --> 00:42:54,360 Speaker 1: Would you agree with that? 819 00:42:57,039 --> 00:42:59,519 Speaker 8: Yeah, well that's why. And that's why I said, and 820 00:42:59,559 --> 00:43:02,559 that's why let's I said, respectfully, ay Rot, you get 821 00:43:02,559 --> 00:43:05,320 the get the get the coach of the year for 822 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,000 the conference. I know, I know that can't happen, but 823 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,519 you like are literally making my point. You know when 824 00:43:11,599 --> 00:43:13,599 when I when I said that, you know what I mean? 825 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,639 Speaker 4: You know what they they bring up Doug Sculville from 826 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,519 like the seventies, Like, come on, now, you know. 827 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 8: That's the that's the first time I heard that. 828 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,159 Speaker 4: Next, no ask ask uncle be about Doug Scolvil Like 829 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,800 this text Uncle ba Hey, who's the greatest offensive coordinate 830 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,920 a b A football history? And and he's probably gonna 831 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,639 he may he may say Doug Scville. I think he 832 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,039 may say Doug s Goville. Everyone says it. He's only 833 00:43:39,079 --> 00:43:41,159 there for four years, bro, four years and it was 834 00:43:41,199 --> 00:43:45,199 early on in the uh in the Lavelle era. 835 00:43:45,679 --> 00:43:49,320 Speaker 8: So yeah, pretty coral that instead of texting it, on'm 836 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:50,519 a tweet him and then. 837 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,639 Speaker 4: I want to out he was the great associate. And 838 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,960 has there ever been an offensive coordinator that b A 839 00:43:56,159 --> 00:43:57,960 fans have actually liked and heralded? 840 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,320 Speaker 1: I think that's uh, that's the question of the off season, 841 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,440 because I don't think anyone's gonna be happy. Uh Ever, anyway, 842 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,559 uh be low best way to support you? 843 00:44:08,639 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 6: What you do? 844 00:44:09,079 --> 00:44:10,320 Speaker 1: How you do it? Brother? We got to get you 845 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,440 into an odion men's word suit. What do you say, brother? 846 00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 8: Yeah? Is it gonna be free? Is it free. 847 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 6: You? 848 00:44:19,679 --> 00:44:23,800 Speaker 8: If it's free, let's let's let's let it, Brolet's let's 849 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:28,159 do it. You know. I uh man, I like like 850 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:29,880 I tell you guys a little time. You know, I 851 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,199 don't I don't need Just pray for me, that's all. 852 00:44:32,639 --> 00:44:35,320 Just just pray for me, you know. I'm I'm I'm 853 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:40,480 highly highly blessed and favored and anointed, and I don't 854 00:44:40,519 --> 00:44:44,360 know why, you know, I continue to get the blessings 855 00:44:44,599 --> 00:44:48,239 that I get in my life. I definitely the person, 856 00:44:49,199 --> 00:44:52,760 the last person on this earth that that deserves it. 857 00:44:54,039 --> 00:44:57,679 But I appreciate, you know, God for putting me in 858 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,280 the situation and and just being able to be a 859 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,239 part of a historic program, in a program that aligns 860 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,039 with my faith even though I'm not a part of it, 861 00:45:06,679 --> 00:45:10,719 and the love and appreciation that I get. So that's 862 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:11,679 all I ask, man. 863 00:45:11,639 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 5: Just just pray for me. 864 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,079 Speaker 8: I tell her run all the time. I'm like, man, 865 00:45:14,159 --> 00:45:15,760 I just put me in your top five prayer list 866 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,639 to night. That's all I asked this. You know, this 867 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,159 just one night. You don't got to do it consistently. 868 00:45:21,159 --> 00:45:22,559 But just when you think about me, or when you 869 00:45:22,599 --> 00:45:24,400 see a tweet, or when you see me on TV 870 00:45:24,599 --> 00:45:27,000 or you hear me on radio, just just pray for me. 871 00:45:27,079 --> 00:45:29,199 You can get some some small I'm like, I'm talking 872 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,519 about one sentence, you know, five eight words. 873 00:45:32,599 --> 00:45:32,760 Speaker 1: You know. 874 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,639 Speaker 6: Look, every time I go to the temple, I'll put 875 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,639 Belo's name in the prayer role. So he makes the 876 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:40,159 top five. 877 00:45:40,199 --> 00:45:43,559 Speaker 8: There you go, bro, Hey, Hey, there you go. That's why, Hey, 878 00:45:43,639 --> 00:45:46,760 that's why, that's why, that's why I got these blessings overflowing. 879 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,440 You know in my life. I appreciate you guys. 880 00:45:50,199 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 4: Much love to you, bride logan, ladies and gentlemen. That 881 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,280 was keeping up with a Cougar segment brought to you 882 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:56,880 by Oudio Mans. We gotta get hm a suit. 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