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Speaker 2: And we're going to get into a little alleged football

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little recruiting segment here. Ryder lions is live right now

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on his Instagram fet. He may be committing, maybe signing,

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he's already committed. He may be signing with the BYU

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Cougar's had to work a few things out earlier today.

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We'll see how it plays out here momentarily on the

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Instagram live. But let's get out to the hotline. Welcome

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in Brandon Huffman of two four seven Sports to tell

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us a little bit about what's cooking with the Cougars

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in the recruiting order.

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Speaker 4: Brent, And how the heck are you, buddy?

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Speaker 5: Hey, I am doing great.

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Speaker 3: It would be nice if we get this announcement from

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jameson pal here because it's kind of a lot of

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thing I'm waiting for on.

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Speaker 5: This crazy day. Oh and there's also the Rider Liones

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news chack.

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Speaker 2: It yeah, I mean, any surprises, any flips, anything that

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kind of has occurred today that you were taken back by.

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Speaker 3: Well, the big one is Henry is the top receiver

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in California. You know, his teammate Kid and Dixon, why

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he was committed Ohio State flipped to USC this morning.

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And then Chris Tendu was on his way to school

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when he got the news about Brian Hartline. So he

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is not yet signed anywhere. Oregon is making a push,

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USC's making a push, Texas is getting involved Ohio States.

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You know, he's been committed for two and a half years,

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trying to get him back in the full So that's

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been kind of the big one so far today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he have a prognostication on where he could end up.

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Is it going to go to the highest bidder type

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of deal. It sounds like he was pretty connected to

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heart Line there at Ohio State. Now with hardline head

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the USF, he's got to find a new home.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think he's going to USF. Sorry, bullstand.

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I know you're probably a little excited thinking that by

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the possibility that ain't happening. From the sounds of it,

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it's going to likely the Oregon us He is making

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a push right now. I think that Oregon has in

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the school that has been involved the most in trying

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to flip him for the last couple of weeks and

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nearly for the last couple of years, if we're really

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being honest and so, I think that the dust could

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end up being even with will Stein leave and I

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think that could end up being the ultimate destination for him.

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Speaker 4: Why isn't Byu in on the mix.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't he have some connectivity here locally, somehow, some way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's Paulynesian, have Polynesian. I think he's got family

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ties into Utah. You know, it's funny this morning that

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the school that I was hearing that was the wild

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card was actually West Virginia. You know, his dad played

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for rich Rodriguez at West Virginia. But you know in

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West Virginia had a home of close today. But I

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don't think that's going to happen. I think it's going

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to eat to be Oregon or USC, which has been

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you know, rumored for months that those are the two

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schools that had the best chance of getting him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let's hope he finds a home. I'm sure

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he will. He's one of the highest prospects, highest rated

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prospects in the country, so Rider Lyons. I don't know

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if we've heard official news. I don't know if we

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have any breaking news, Ronald. I'll try to keep an

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eye on this stuff later. Signing. It looks like I

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think we just had got off the phone with Will

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Speaker 4: Have been worked out.

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Speaker 2: I think he should be signing with the Cougars if

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he does. How good of a get is it for BYU?

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Speaker 3: Well, it'd be a significant because now you know, with

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the emergence of Bear Bachmeyer, it gives them a quarterback

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that can take over the reins in two thousand and whatever.

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twenty twenty seven. Now you've got a year to get

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him back acclimated. It again, you got Bart going into

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his junior year, and you've got that bridge before Bear

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goes on to the NFL. If that's the calendar that

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we're looking at. But obviously he would be a significant

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get for BYU from a procession standpoint going into California,

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you know, beating Oregon, beating USC, beating Lane Kiff in

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an all myth, and then in the last couple of weeks,

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you know the transpiring of Lan Kipp and going to LSU,

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eleventh hour now that Miami has been in contact and

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trying to get him, and I know Oregon never relented

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even with will Stein Leavin. Now like with Chris Henry.

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I don't think he's going to West Virginia. I don't

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think there's any chance that Riderlands goes to Kentucky. So

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it's a big one because it's not just the challenge

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that you got, but it's the player, the teams you

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beat to get him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a special class for by. Is this

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the best class in recruited class in BA football history?

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Speaker 3: You know, I was looking and trying this thing from

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a rating standpoint. It's going to be one of their

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higher rated classes ever. But I got to think back

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to maybe the twenty ten class the Jake.

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Speaker 5: Keeps Ross Apo.

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Speaker 3: Was that Alani Fua zach Stout type of twenty ten

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class where they were, you know, really doing well in

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cooking under Bronco. To have a class that's got the

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national caliber recruits that they beat so many elite schools

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had to head.

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Speaker 4: For, yeah, that was I'm looking.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at the composite ranking on the website and

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that ended up being I think thirty third in the

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country at least what I have in front of me.

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I don't know if it's an accurate depiction, but I

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mean it's right there.

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Speaker 4: Man. This this this crew.

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Speaker 2: If everyone's retained right, you never know what can happen.

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like this is a kind of a pivotal shift for

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b What we thought this shift was happening in twenty ten,

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but then BAA was essentially forced an independence and they

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didn't get the call up to the P five ranks,

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and it was just a different time, different places. They

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had to go into independence and wander the wilderness for

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you know, almost most thirteen years. But now it seems

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like this is the time, this is the place, this

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is the change, This is momentum that's really creating some

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positive momentum in Cougar Country.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, if you look at the

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timing of really you go back to last fall when

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scenes really turned around on the field. There was that

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obviously really tough twenty twenty three season as they're getting

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adjusted to the Big twelve events, twenty fourth season happened,

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and it seems like, you know, ever since then with it,

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whether it was the ballgame in San Antonio, the you know,

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you get a Bear Bockmeier out of it, and it's

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like things have been just cooking for BYU for the

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last play fifteen to sixteen months. And I think that,

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you know, this is going to sound weird, because I

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would imagine that the last seventy two hours ninety six

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hours have been some nashing his teenth and some freaking out.

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It's Kilana going to go to Penn State. And you

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know how many times we heard Plani's name mentioned, and

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you all know that the culture he's built there, we

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always hear his name mentioned, but you never think he's

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going to leave, and this maybe looked like it was

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the closest he's ever to leave in that should tell

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you what kind of demand that he has as a coach.

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of shows like, hey, you know what, Bilani has this

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thing exactly where we want it to be, and he's

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catapulting him to even be further than BYU probably thought

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that they could be after that.

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Speaker 5: Twenty three season.

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Speaker 3: And so the momentum continues to build and it's trickling

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down into the recruiting ranking, just thing down into the

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recruiting class, and I think that that you know, you

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can't have a better ninety six hours, even though it's

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stressful at the beginning.

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Speaker 6: Of the week.

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Speaker 3: I think with him doubling down, sticking with BYU and

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now writer with a talk that maybe he wasn't going

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to sign to now signing today, you know there could

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still be some late drama here with BYU with a

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couple other players. You know, this is the kind of

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stuff that if you're a BUYU fan, this week has

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been a roller coaster, but you are exhilarated with the

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results of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I do.

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Speaker 2: We do have some I guess breaking news. Rider lines

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are signed. Who's l OI to b YU and so

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he's a BYU Cougar. Big news for this BYU Cougar

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football team. As far as quarterbacks are concerned, right, you

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mentioned Jake Keeps, he was a big time recruit at

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that time. You look at some of the other commits

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that boy has received in the quarterback room since kind

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of the inception of two four seven and and the

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recruiting rankings. Where does Ryder rank out amongst the best

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quarterbacks that have signed with BYU.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean from a ranking standpoint, obviously, Jay Keith

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was the highest rated guy five star at the time.

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I was at scott dot Com. We had him as

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the number one quarterback in the country in that twenty

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ten class. From a overall talent standpoint, I mean Rogers

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Steve Young signed or Jim McMahon signed. So I'm not

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even going to try to football is different back then anyway,

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Speaker 5: This has got to be.

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Speaker 3: In the social media era, this may be their most

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significant signing period, no matter what position it is on

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the football field. You know, Twitter wasn't as big in

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twenty ten as it is now. But I mean, Rider

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Lion is also a brand. Jake Keath is a quarterback,

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very talented quarterback. Obviously things didn't work out like he

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had hoped, but Ryder Lions is a brand. And I

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think that from a perception standpoint too, You're getting a

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guy who is being off the field, and that doesn't

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even get into discussion of how good he is on

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the field. Got a chance to win second state championship

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as a starter at Fullsome. They got a regional championship

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game this weekend and then if they win that they

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played for the state title in two weeks. You know,

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he's been selected to play in the Under Arming Game,

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the Navy All American Ball, the Polynesian Boll. I mean,

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able to get in recent years, and that you know

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is pretty significant too in an era where it is

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about branding just as much as it's about the ability

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on the field.

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Speaker 2: Ryder Lyons is an interesting study, you know.

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Speaker 4: BYU fans.

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Speaker 2: You know, we've talked many times with the years, we

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Speaker 4: Complex, right.

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Speaker 2: We feel like the ratings go down for our prospects

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once they commit to BYU. You've heard it, Tom and

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Tom again, Brandon. They feel like Ryder Lions should be

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a five star. Why isn't he a five star? Huffman?

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the brink of a five star rating?

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, Ben, I haven't heard any

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of the questions of like, oh, Adam Bywater moved up

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to a four star. Oh no, Petty Mlwaala moved up

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to a four star. We only people only complain about

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the player who dropped. They never acknowledged that it's a

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ranking sucked and they must suck that we rated a

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bunch of guys hired than where they are to begin with.

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Speaker 5: So there's my answer.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about that as soon as people give us

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the flowers. On those players who saw their ratings bump.

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Speaker 2: Up, It's very true. No, a number of players got

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their ratings bump up. Look, your your your team, your crew,

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you yourself. You got eyes on these guys, especially late

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in the season. You did in person evals and you

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elevated certain players you got eyes on.

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Speaker 4: And look, you guys have shown you guys are the most.

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Speaker 2: Credible uh credible in uh uh you know platform in

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the industry as it pertains to this, and you're way

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more right than you've ever been wrong.

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Speaker 4: So I think you got to trust the process.

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Speaker 2: If you're a BYU fan and say, hey, this is

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the rating, this is what it is.

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Speaker 4: Take it or leave it.

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Speaker 2: Take it or leave it now it's up to ride

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or to say, hey, I was a five star and

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go out and get go go out and get his flowers.

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Maybe put a little chip on his should because he

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didn't get that five star.

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Speaker 3: For sure, and I mean he's still considered one of

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the top half dozen quarterbacks in the class. He's still

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projected at worth a second round draft pick. Which when

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was the last time b YU had a first round

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draft pick quarterback not named Zach Wilson? And what was

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he when he came out of high school? He outplayed

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his ranking, So you know, you got to trust if

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you're byu. Hey, our coaches turned a three star into

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the number two or three taken the draft, and now

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we've got an elite quarterback that if our coaches developed

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like they did with previous quarterbacks, then we're gonna have

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that first round quarterback again. So I think again, yes,

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the quarterbacks are the ones that draw the attention, They

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draw all the eyeballs. But I think that the bigger

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story here is getting in on a ty Getchee when

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he was starting to see his recruitment blow up, and

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then washing him become a four star Jack Stanner, who's

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a composite four star as Paul is ready alignment, and

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now they got a wait two years. You know, I

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talked to a coach that I know in the state

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of Idaho who has been going up against him for

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three years. He said, do one of the happiest days

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my life was tight was Jack Stanners senior night because

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I'm sick of having to try to defend him or

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try to have to, you know, get my defensive players

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to go against him, you know, and a little Petti Mawala.

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I mean, I think it was on this show a

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couple of weeks ago where I said that the best player,

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best defensive player I've seen this season across six states

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and that includes you know, going to California, going to Washington, Idaho, Utah, Colorado,

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and Arizona. Lopetti Mawala is the best defensive player that

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I saw and the jump that he made, So you know,

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we could bemoan what Riders done. But I think get

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the few i U stuff some credit for some really

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good Ben Ben Bodywater. Sorry, Sorry Ben, Sorry Adam. You know,

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the younger brothers never want to be called their big

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brother's name. I mean, that's the thing that I'd be

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really excited about. And then we haven't even talked about

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the best player in this class, not name writer in Bob,

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who was an elite defensive lineman. They flipped him from

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Oregon and Oregon doesn't lose a lot of recruits that

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they get early on and Bot, you know, wants to

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be an offensive lineman. He goes out wins the MVP

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at the under Hummer camp. I mean this class, if

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you're a DYU fan, you could look at this twenty

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twenty sixth class as being one of the most you know,

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satisfying classes because in an era where some guys nail

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it in as a senior, you saw three or four

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guys that they just raised their game to another level

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this year, and you had to be jack. If you're

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a YU.

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Speaker 2: Fan, Yeah, this is a fantastic class. I always always

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ask it, who's the most underrated in this class? Would

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you say, Brandon Houffin, you got Bot, you got Brock, Harris,

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Adam Bywater, Tigetchi Lapetti, Mawala, Jacks Tanner, Terrence Serian Brexton,

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Lindsay Kaboacana Legend, Glasger, Matthew Mason, Graham, Livingston Parker, ord

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Cepaniah A Latini, Antonio Johnson, Neamiah Cologne, Justice Braithwaite, and

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Devon Ecka.

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Speaker 4: Now writer lines.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say Sef and I a Latini. I'm a

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big stand of Seth and Iah. You know that league

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that he plays in, the West Castle Athletic League, is

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the best league in northern California. He's been a stalwart

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for an outstanding Saint Francis team the last couple of years.

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I think that, you know, he's a player that just

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doesn't get a lot of attention.

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Speaker 5: He's hurt a little bit in.

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Speaker 3: The offseason, hasn't been able to do a lot of

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the offseason camp. But I think he's going to end

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up being a very valuable player, whether it's the safety,

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whether he ends up moving up into the box.

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Speaker 5: I love the way Seth and Ia plays.

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Speaker 4: Love that breakdown.

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Speaker 2: Brandon Huffman here on ESPN the Fan talking BYU's recruiting class,

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their signing class for the twenty twenty six crew, the

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Cougar Crew of twenty twenty six. Pretty pretty impressive work

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that Kilane in his half of put Together. You look

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at the momentum, You look at the recruiting rankings here

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by US right now, eleven and one they have. They're

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coming off an eleven and two season, their their third year.

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Speaker 4: In the Big twelve.

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Speaker 2: You know their average recruiting ranking under Kolone I wouldn't

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say it's been overly impressive, right, but you're seeing would

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you say that like b YU overachieves under Kilanne versus

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their recruiting ranking year over year, and if so, like

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by how much?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean it's funny because you look at the schools

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that consistently are competing for national championship, they're using the

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ones that are you know, kicking above their their weight class.

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We're punching at their weight class from a recruiting standpoint.

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And I think that you know, Kilani has done a

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fantastic job of really in this. I don't want this

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to sound as a flight because there's some very content

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players that were highly talented coming out of high school

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that had been really.

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Speaker 5: Good at BYU.

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Speaker 3: But he really did a good job of finding fits

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for the programs, cultural fits, and then development. The player

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development there is as good as you're going to see

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in the Western United States. And I think that that's

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what he's done is he may not in previous year

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has not had the flashiest class, but those guys really

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fit what BYU was looking for and what BYU was

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really trying to do. And I think the coaching.

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Speaker 5: And the development and the other.

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Speaker 3: Big thing is the consistency in that staff. There's such

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little turnover with that staff in comparison to so many

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other schools that that there's something to be said about

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that those guys know that that same voice they're going

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to hear for three or four years on one side

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of the ball or at one position group. That guy

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that was there as a freshman, that was sitting in

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their living room when they were in high school, he's

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going to be there when they're senior. Maybe when they

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come back to their mission, he's there still. And I

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think that that's that goes back to culture, and that's

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why Penn State, I think, was so interested in hiring

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colonies because they have that culture. And then there is

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the player development, whereas you know, maybe Penn State didn't

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get that kind of development from their coach who did

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have recruiting classes. Maybe they were looking for something a

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little bit opposite that that kind of run the most

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talent he could out of that rag. And I think

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that's what Kolani does is he does such a good

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job at evaluation and then developing that it looks like

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consistently they're out playing what their ranking is.

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Speaker 2: So my question is this, now that they're ranking, if

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they get into this mode right where they're overachieving on

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the football field and they're obtaining top twenty talent year

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in year out, let's say top twenty, top thirty talent

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year in the route. What's the potential for them as

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a college football playoff contender? Do you think they can

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obtain enough talent develop enough talent to compete and win.

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Speaker 4: In the college football playoff?

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Speaker 3: I mean, they were what a couple turnovers early on

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a year ago from playing for the Big Twelve title

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and potentially being in the playoffs, and we're seventy two

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hours away from seeing if they're going to be, you know,

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getting a playoff home game if they knock off Texas text.

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So I think that, you know, the momentum has already

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been building and now it's okay, you're getting the players.

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You're doing this with good players. When people were questioning

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is Kwani the right man for the job? Those guys

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that maybe when they were scuffling in the first year

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of the Big Twelve are now the reason that they

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have a chance to play on Saturday for a chance

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of going to the playoffs. And you know, what are

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they going to do when they get better talent coming

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out of high school with the ability to develop that

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they've been showing. I don't think there's any any way

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to think otherwise that DYU is going to be a

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top three program in the Big twelve for the foreseeable future.

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Speaker 2: Love the breakdown, Brandon, always love talking ball with you.

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What a great recruiting class for Kilani and his crew.

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Hopefully Klinie can keep all the coaching staff together for

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another run next season and they can continue this momentum.

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But pretty tremendous to see what they've accomplished over the

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last few years. Best way to support you, huff and

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what you do, how you do it For all of our.

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Speaker 3: Listeners, Hey, twenty four to seven Sports is where to go.

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You can find all my content there on twenty four

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twenty four to seven network the YU side, but at

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Twitter at Brandon Huffman or I guess x whatever we

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call on in you know, there still might be some

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more recruiting stuff going on these next couple of days

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to keep an eye on.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I was wondering is it flip season possibly?

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Speaker 5: Can we see some any guys?

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Speaker 3: There is buzz that there might be some flipping in

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the future.

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Speaker 4: Here, flip season, let's go.

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Speaker 2: You said forty eight hours, seventy two hours, what are

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we looking at?

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Speaker 3: So let's see, seventy two hours is when the big

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twelve championship games be done. Forty eight hours in the

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signing period, and so let's say the next seventy two hours.

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Speaker 4: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: All right, Huffman, we appreciate you. That's why you guys

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me all the insight, and they do it, and it's

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always worth it.

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Speaker 4: Thanks so muchf Man. We appreciate you any time.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Welcome in. Darnel Dickson, double D of The Daily Herald

525
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does have double d.

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Speaker 6: Well. I'm in the bowels of the Delta Center, so

527
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I'm hoping you're here in the okay, But happy holidays

528
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to you have been, and happy colony. Sataki Week.

529
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Speaker 2: I guess right hap Kilanie Satake Christmas Week, Ladies and gentlemen,

530
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it's the Kalani Satake Christmas for Cougar Nation. Your reaction

531
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to the news that Kilanie's been extended. He's going to

532
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be your head football coach, well, the Cougar Nation's head

533
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coach for the foreseeable future. I don't know for how long,

534
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right is it ten years, is it fifteen years? But

535
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I think it's going to be a long time, a

536
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long while before we see another head coach in Provo.

537
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think.

538
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Speaker 6: I keep thinking about us how unique this situation is

539
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for BYU and it's fans, and it's program because of

540
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the you know, nil, because of the transfer portal, because

541
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of all the money it's flowing. It's just it was

542
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an unusual situation and an unprecedented situation, and you know,

543
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I think most BYU fans were like us in the media,

544
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going well, I mean, he might go, he might go,

545
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And then he decided this day with the stipulations and

546
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the requests that he had for the administration to fulfill,

547
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to take care of his guys, his assistant coaches and staff,

548
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and to come up with more money for nil this

549
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This program wants to be competitive, They want to be

550
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successful and they know what the path is to get

551
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there and have id. When by made that jump to

552
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the Big twelve, or at least announced they were making

553
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that jump back in twenty twenty one, it meant that

554
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the board of Trustees was on board, like, yeah, let's

555
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do this, knowing that it was going to require a

556
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greater commitment. Well, that commitment just increased this week. It's

557
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higher stakes now and higher requests. So it's just a

558
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really interesting time to be covering this program and to

559
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see what the Brethren are willing to do to create

560
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a great football program and then want Klini to be

561
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the one in charge of it. And I don't blame him,

562
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He's the right guy for the job.

563
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Speaker 4: Love that breakdown from Double D.

564
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Speaker 2: Do you think the whole Cougar coaching staff family stays

565
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together this offseason?

566
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Speaker 5: Right?

567
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Speaker 4: It seems like the.

568
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Speaker 2: Focus was less on Kilanne, I would say to a

569
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certain degree, right, and more so on the staff and

570
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the EDIL dollars that would be allocated to hopefully retain

571
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his coaching staff. Do you think that everyone stays together

572
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and we're all one big, happy family into twenty twenty.

573
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Speaker 6: Six, I would say probably, But there's always going to

574
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be an opportunity for somebody to maybe be a head coach,

575
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and if there's the out opportunity, that might be something

576
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that would you know, supersede their commitment to Byu and

577
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Kilane and getting an increase in salaries. Being your own boss,

578
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that's something that appeals to just about everybody, even you Ben.

579
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You like being your own boss, So that that could

580
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definitely pull somebody in some direction, because this coaching carofel

581
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is still spinning and will continue to spin all throughout

582
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the month of December and probably into January. As teams

583
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that the trickle down effect happens. You know, somebody gets hired,

584
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that creates an opening which to hire somebody else that

585
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creates an opening, and it might hit the YU and

586
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that their assistant coaches might somebody might get an opportunity

587
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to be a head coach somewhere, but not not leaving

588
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to be an assistant somewhere else I don't think or

589
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a coordinator of that kind of thing.

590
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be someone that wants to level

591
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up right in that. Come on, the head coach of

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an institution, no doubt about it, darnell.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: The signing class, Okay, the signing class is pretty impressive,

595
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a top twenty class. You remember the twenty ten class

596
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which was similarly ranked with Jake Heaps, et cetera. What

597
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makes this class different than the twenty ten class?

598
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Speaker 5: Do you think.

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Speaker 6: What makes it unique?

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Speaker 4: Here?

601
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Speaker 6: Special? You mean, what.

602
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Speaker 4: Makes it like? Okay?

603
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Speaker 2: So what happened with that class? Did the class live

604
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up to it? Did the past take it to like

605
00:28:31,839 --> 00:28:34,759
BYU was coming off of, like the momentum and I

606
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should have prefaced it with this six to nine double

607
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:43,920
digit win seasons four years in a row since twenty twenty. Okay,

608
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,240
BYUS had double digit win seasons four out of six

609
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years now, two back to back, and we're seeing kind

610
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of the same momentum occurring this go around. What's the

611
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difference between last time and this time?

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Speaker 6: Well, in my mind, the major difference is the transfer

613
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portal and nil the opportunities for these guys to go

614
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elsewhere and make a lot of money is a big deal.

615
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But they never had that opportunity at BYU. When they

616
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brought in Jake Keeps in that group, it was the

617
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promise of let's go in a championship, let's do something

618
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,200
unique and special. That was all the by you had

619
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to offer. Well, they had more to offer. I mean, obviously,

620
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you know, being a member of the Church of Jesus

621
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Christchoo latterday Saint probably brings guys feel like they are

622
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obligated or want to have that experience. But now that

623
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there's aash involved, a lot of money and opportunities to

624
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make more money, b what you can offer all of

625
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those things, and so I think this group may be

626
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solved more solid from top to bottom than that class

627
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,960
was maybe a little top heavy. And because of the

628
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fact that coaches like to go out into the transfer

629
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portal and bring players in, I think that it's making

630
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a little more select for those high school kids to

631
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get to the next level. And if you are selected

632
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to come to on Division I school, a power conference school,

633
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,839
then you're you're I think pretty good and ready to

634
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,759
go and understand what needs to happen for you to

635
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be successful. So those are some things that I kind

636
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of see is a little bit different at this point

637
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in time between those two classes that I think it's

638
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a little more from top to bottom, a little stronger.

639
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And these are the elite of the elite because of

640
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:23,680
that transfer portation.

641
00:30:24,799 --> 00:30:26,599
Speaker 2: I got to get your perspective on this, because I

642
00:30:26,599 --> 00:30:29,960
think you could, you can, you can provide some some

643
00:30:30,039 --> 00:30:33,359
truth and knowledge in this regard. So okay, So this

644
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,039
is a monumental thing that just occurred with Kilane, the momentum,

645
00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:41,240
with the recruiting, But it also comes with some questions

646
00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:45,720
for for many, I call them the builders of the Kingdom. Right,

647
00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:49,599
these are the people that it's all about the faith.

648
00:30:49,799 --> 00:30:53,680
It's the religion, all this temporal stuff, it doesn't matter,

649
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,759
you know what. It definitely not sport. Right music is different,

650
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:05,680
Right music, I could endemic academic efforts and scientific endeavors,

651
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:10,519
medicinal efforts, those are all different than athletic talents being

652
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,079
utilized or being invested in or being highlighted. Right, many

653
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,000
builders of the king that they look at this and like,

654
00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:19,240
why are we investing in athletic Why are we spending

655
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:25,039
so much filthy luke or on this idolatrous sport? How

656
00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:28,559
dare they why would the Board of Trustees approve anything

657
00:31:29,519 --> 00:31:33,160
of the sort. The report's coming out that Kilonie's making

658
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:39,599
nine million, Kevin Young four point three to five million, nil,

659
00:31:39,759 --> 00:31:43,279
offerings of ten to fifteen million plus rev share from

660
00:31:43,319 --> 00:31:46,000
TV and look the t the athletic department eats what

661
00:31:46,079 --> 00:31:46,440
it kills.

662
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:47,359
Speaker 4: It's self sustaining.

663
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: There are no ties, no offerings given unto the athletic

664
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:55,519
Department that is continually re emphasized that this is the

665
00:31:55,599 --> 00:32:01,240
hobby of alum and fans everywhere to kind of buoy

666
00:32:01,319 --> 00:32:04,240
it up and to aid and support it because we're

667
00:32:04,279 --> 00:32:08,799
passionate about these athletic talents. But I feel like, you know,

668
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,839
you can give some insights like where's the balance is this?

669
00:32:14,279 --> 00:32:15,359
Speaker 4: Is this going to set?

670
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Speaker 2: Is this gonna bifurcate more of like the traditional maybe

671
00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:22,240
BYU fan do good to see you? Hey wait right here,

672
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:23,759
you come up, come here. I want you to get

673
00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:25,279
on the on the line with me, sir. We got

674
00:32:25,279 --> 00:32:27,440
a BA fans showing up here, get on a headset here.

675
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,359
I wanted to get your perspective on this because I

676
00:32:32,359 --> 00:32:34,880
feel like you know these people, these are some of

677
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,880
your people, Darnell. You know the NIL transfer portal world.

678
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:38,519
Speaker 4: You don't like it.

679
00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:41,039
Speaker 2: You don't like all this the filthy luker that's being thrown.

680
00:32:41,079 --> 00:32:44,160
It's ruining the sport, the altruistic nature, and maybe we

681
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,240
need to focus on the things that really matter and

682
00:32:46,279 --> 00:32:48,559
have balance in all things. Give me your thoughts on

683
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,799
all the things that I just mumbled and jumbled together.

684
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Speaker 6: Well, one of the things that comes to mind is

685
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is there are probably I would I would estimate that

686
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,960
in years past, the board of Tristees would not have

687
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approved this kind of a move. I think that maybe

688
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,680
those guys have evolved just a little bit into what

689
00:33:09,839 --> 00:33:12,319
the current situation is, which is good to know that

690
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,559
there's opportunities for them to kind of examine what it

691
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,480
means about influences members of the church and the university

692
00:33:22,039 --> 00:33:24,839
and if they see the benefits, and I think they're

693
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,079
logical human beings as well as spiritual, so they see

694
00:33:28,119 --> 00:33:31,799
the benefits to the university and to the church to

695
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,400
be successful in athletics and to be excellent. And that

696
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,240
doesn't mean winning a national championship per se. It means

697
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,559
competing at the highest level and having success and showcasing

698
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,039
what the way you do things to the world. And

699
00:33:46,359 --> 00:33:49,000
I feel like that's probably why we're in a situation

700
00:33:49,079 --> 00:33:51,839
we're in now where the board of trustees is saying, yes,

701
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,279
let's invest more, let's keep going. This is working. It's

702
00:33:55,319 --> 00:33:57,720
not just working on the field as working off the field,

703
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,599
and I think I have to for them to understand

704
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,440
and to believe that this is the right move.

705
00:34:04,519 --> 00:34:08,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's an interesting dynamic, right, Like what's your

706
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,280
personal opinion on it? Are you do you feel do

707
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,320
you feel like BYU Athletics and ba's institution the border

708
00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:16,519
there are they moving in the right direction as it

709
00:34:16,559 --> 00:34:18,519
pertains to this. I mean, your a member of the faith,

710
00:34:18,559 --> 00:34:21,840
you attended by you you're you're a sports writer and columnist,

711
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,440
and you've been covering sports for a long time. Obviously

712
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,360
it's something you're passionate about. You still keep your independent

713
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,480
journalistic integrity, obviously, but you have a good perch and

714
00:34:32,519 --> 00:34:34,400
a good evaluation of of all of this.

715
00:34:34,519 --> 00:34:35,119
Speaker 4: I think.

716
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 6: I'm not opposed to it. You know, there was always

717
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,960
the feeling that b why you can't be successful at

718
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,039
that level because they won't do what other teams are doing,

719
00:34:47,079 --> 00:34:50,960
which at the time was against the rules. You couldn't

720
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,159
pay players, you couldn't go out and influence players that

721
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:56,440
come to your school from another school. There wasn't the

722
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,280
avenues or a processes for that to happen, and it

723
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,119
was against the rules. So be why you didn't. Now

724
00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:03,480
it's not against the rules, and be where you're showing

725
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,840
we can play this way. If we invest in this uh,

726
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,800
this is this program and these programs in our athletic department,

727
00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:13,280
we can be very successful because of how we are

728
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,119
and the kind of kind of people we are and

729
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,039
how we do things. And so I don't think it's

730
00:35:19,079 --> 00:35:25,559
a bad thing. I think it obviously has the influence

731
00:35:26,039 --> 00:35:29,440
can be negative in some ways on some people. And

732
00:35:29,679 --> 00:35:31,679
I know there are BYU fans whoill kind of thrown

733
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,440
up their hands like, look, I don't I can't invest

734
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,519
this much more money in being BYU fan. They're asking

735
00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:40,360
more of YU fans. They want they wanted to pay

736
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,519
more for tickets and and they wanted to be supporters

737
00:35:43,519 --> 00:35:47,280
in a more, you know, more financial way than they've

738
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,760
done in the past. And some people have thrown up

739
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,079
their hands and said, nope, this is where we get off.

740
00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:52,880
And so other fans are willing to step in as

741
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,960
long as that's the case, then it will keep moving

742
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,800
forward and as long as be what you continues to

743
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,440
try to do it the right way, which they will

744
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,960
won't make mistakes. We'll see mistakes being made and things

745
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,840
make color them in a bad light, but they're prepared

746
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,920
for those to be. You know, those who oppose what

747
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,239
they're trying to do to be negative with them. But

748
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,239
at this point I see by you just all they're

749
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,360
doing is trying to be the best version of themselves

750
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,639
that they can be within the rules, and there's nothing

751
00:36:22,679 --> 00:36:25,199
wrong with it. I think the college athletics are terrified

752
00:36:25,199 --> 00:36:27,639
of what be why you can do with this kind

753
00:36:27,679 --> 00:36:30,079
of access. I really do is that.

754
00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:33,679
Speaker 2: Why they're stiff arming them from this college football playoff access.

755
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,159
They're putting them at eleven. They will not move them

756
00:36:36,199 --> 00:36:38,679
from eleven. They won't move them up, they won't move

757
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,280
them down. They're like, yeah, that's a nice little program.

758
00:36:41,639 --> 00:36:45,159
Those Mormon boys. You know, they're mature. They got a

759
00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:47,519
lot of money down there in Provo. But hey, they

760
00:36:47,559 --> 00:36:52,159
ain't getting into our college football playoff cupball club, No way,

761
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:52,880
no how.

762
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,079
Speaker 6: I was just talking to Chad Lewis for a story

763
00:36:57,079 --> 00:37:00,199
I'm working on, and he said this remarkable to him

764
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,039
how the discussions today are very similar to what they

765
00:37:03,079 --> 00:37:07,039
were when he was playing in the mid nineteen nineties

766
00:37:07,039 --> 00:37:08,679
and B why you was trying to break through into

767
00:37:08,679 --> 00:37:11,880
the Bowl Alliance. It was the same thing happening. And

768
00:37:12,119 --> 00:37:15,280
here we are, you know, twenty years thirty years later,

769
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,880
and it's the same discussions about hy you not receiving

770
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,519
their just due. And you know, we heard the yes

771
00:37:22,599 --> 00:37:25,480
man announcers say, well, they simply have to go beat

772
00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:28,679
Texas Tech in the Big twelve championship game and then

773
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,360
we'll be in. Well that's not an easy task. But

774
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,159
if that's the route they're given, b why He's going

775
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,079
to do everything they can to get there and to

776
00:37:35,159 --> 00:37:37,840
do that. And once they start breaking through, I don't

777
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,800
think there's any stopping them. And that's why I say

778
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,599
that the college sports isn't ready for what by You

779
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,920
can do. And if they continue to grow, and they've

780
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,199
shown their willing to put in the effort to continue

781
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,400
to grow by signing up Kilani for this long term

782
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,599
contract and giving him what he wants, Guy's a limit

783
00:37:55,679 --> 00:37:57,519
with this program in a lot of different ways, not

784
00:37:57,599 --> 00:37:58,639
just football.

785
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 4: Of the day.

786
00:38:00,599 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 2: I just thought of this is inspirational. I think, which

787
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:10,159
group of people want to see the complete destruction and

788
00:38:10,639 --> 00:38:14,639
uh and removal of athletics within BYU and the Church

789
00:38:14,679 --> 00:38:18,039
of Jesus Christ the Letterary Saints as the sponsoring.

790
00:38:17,559 --> 00:38:19,159
Speaker 4: Institution of of b Y.

791
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 2: Is it a utah fans because they're losing. They've lost

792
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,719
three in a row, they're losing recruits. There could be

793
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,880
flips here momentarily, they're losing in nil they're losing. They're

794
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,039
just losing, right, and they're like, ah, man, now b

795
00:38:33,199 --> 00:38:35,880
YU is going to become the USC and we're going

796
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,480
to become the UCLA of the Big twelve like the

797
00:38:38,559 --> 00:38:39,559
former Pact of anyway.

798
00:38:39,559 --> 00:38:40,639
Speaker 4: All right, So that's number one.

799
00:38:40,639 --> 00:38:44,599
Speaker 2: A Number two the nerds, the kingdom builders that hate

800
00:38:44,639 --> 00:38:51,159
sport and the idolatrous nature of athletics at BYU as

801
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,719
B like you know, they're they're academics, they are seekers

802
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:59,159
of truth of science, academic and theology. But they hate

803
00:38:59,519 --> 00:39:01,840
modern da gladiatorial worship.

804
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 4: They hate it.

805
00:39:02,679 --> 00:39:06,079
Speaker 2: They want to see it completely done away with because

806
00:39:06,119 --> 00:39:09,679
sports do not build up the kingdom. There's no talents

807
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,159
that God has given unto man athletically that we should

808
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:19,079
have any money allocated to period or number three, the

809
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:26,199
college football cabal, the oligopoly that doesn't want anything to

810
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,480
do especially higher academia. Right, you're talking about these big

811
00:39:29,519 --> 00:39:34,880
time brands, universities not all that conservative by.

812
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 4: Data, you know, data shows not all that conservative.

813
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,159
Speaker 2: Okay, very left leaning player. And I'm a centrist. I'm

814
00:39:41,159 --> 00:39:42,840
a pragmatist. I'm a realist.

815
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:43,159
Speaker 4: Okay.

816
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 2: I just see the writing on the wall, like they

817
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:52,599
don't like me BYU a stiff on forever right, bigotry, religious,

818
00:39:52,639 --> 00:39:55,880
you know, religious bigotry, et cetera. Like who not lit,

819
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,880
we like eighties love BYU. University presidents do not want

820
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:02,719
anything to do with b YU, Right, is it that

821
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,559
group that just wants to see B YU go a

822
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:05,320
B or C?

823
00:40:05,519 --> 00:40:06,679
Speaker 4: What do you got for me? Darn now?

824
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,039
Speaker 2: I know it's a philosophical question. This is a tough one.

825
00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:10,840
This is maybe my best poll of the day. I'm

826
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,119
gonna give myself credit here.

827
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 6: Well, I'm gonna go with with a combination of B

828
00:40:16,599 --> 00:40:16,800
and C.

829
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 4: Okay, wait, you can go d all the above if

830
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:20,920
you want to.

831
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 6: No, no, I want to go I want to go

832
00:40:23,079 --> 00:40:24,079
B and C. And here's why.

833
00:40:24,559 --> 00:40:25,559
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay.

834
00:40:25,639 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 6: Okay, So C. Those people may take college sports in

835
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,880
the direction B. Why you can't follow, I don't know.

836
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,360
I mean, I never thought we'd be in a situation

837
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,280
where we are now, where the players are getting paid

838
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,320
and there's money coming from from all different areas, and

839
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,039
the transfer portal is a wide open thing. I mean,

840
00:40:44,559 --> 00:40:47,760
I've had to laugh when people were talking about the NCAA.

841
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,119
You know, B, why you just signed for basketball a

842
00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:55,159
G League player to come play for them next year.

843
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,960
And I'm thinking this is the same group that five

844
00:40:58,039 --> 00:41:01,119
years ago suspended Julie Child for nine games for filling

845
00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:04,880
out you improper paperwork. I never thought we'd be in

846
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,880
this spot. So I'm saying the C group could take

847
00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:11,280
college sports in the direction where BYU goes we can't

848
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,480
do that. It's not ethical, it just doesn't seem right.

849
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,239
And that would be the group B that would say that,

850
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,719
And they have a lot of influence at b YU

851
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,440
because it is an academic institution. So that's my answer

852
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,639
to your question. And I can't predict anything, but that's

853
00:41:24,639 --> 00:41:27,199
what I would say. Would lead me to believe that

854
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,559
those two groups combined might be able to pull something

855
00:41:29,599 --> 00:41:32,639
off in the future. Or BYU says we just can't

856
00:41:32,679 --> 00:41:33,000
do that.

857
00:41:34,039 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 4: I love it. I love it.

858
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: There's another constituency that I did not bring up, but

859
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,400
sometimes it does fold into I would say maybe the

860
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,320
first group, and that is the x MOS and anti mos.

861
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 4: They and they're like, I just want to, you know,

862
00:41:50,079 --> 00:41:54,400
see them just fail at everything. B YU and the church.

863
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 2: You know, anything that they do wrong, right, they're going

864
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,880
to point out and say, hey, like see, you're not

865
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,360
living up to your standard. You know, you're not living

866
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:07,039
up to the standard that you set for yourselves. You

867
00:42:07,039 --> 00:42:08,119
guys are fraudulent.

868
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 4: You know. They just want to see burned down, just

869
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:11,960
all burned down, right.

870
00:42:12,679 --> 00:42:14,639
Speaker 6: And then I can I can think of another group.

871
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,360
That's the why use kind of silence? You have a

872
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,039
group is the the special interest groups that were so

873
00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:21,920
opposed to be why you joined the big twelve.

874
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:26,519
Speaker 2: Dollar the Iowa State special Interest Group, the LG group.

875
00:42:26,679 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that was a.

876
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,199
Speaker 6: Group that that had a really big influence. I think

877
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:33,760
the first time be why you came up for it

878
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,280
at least the last time, and then the why you

879
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,960
managed to vacate those feelings and move on through and

880
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,239
and so there's another there's a lot of luck. Why

881
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:45,440
you look at it that way.

882
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll say this.

883
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 2: I had a deep conversation with someone who I love

884
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,639
and appreciate and trust. I said, look like, okay, what

885
00:42:53,880 --> 00:43:00,840
has been the what's the biggest issue? Maybe that, uh,

886
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,960
the biggest problem, the biggest bottleneck, the biggest impediment for

887
00:43:04,199 --> 00:43:07,480
maybe growth and that that that that that the church

888
00:43:07,519 --> 00:43:10,159
that you describe the Letter of Saints faces in this

889
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,480
modern era or forever since the it's inception. What what

890
00:43:13,559 --> 00:43:16,800
has been the biggest issue maybe for even more rapid growth?

891
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:21,119
And uh uh, you know, the the expanse of no

892
00:43:21,159 --> 00:43:23,360
one hallowed hand will stop the work of progress. What's

893
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:29,440
what's stopping the work from from progressing? In your opinion, Darnell, Oh.

894
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 6: I thought you were talking about your friend you were

895
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,239
talking to, was answer, and you want me to answer that? Well?

896
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 4: No, I mean, yeah, I know, I'm sorry.

897
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 2: I asked a question I was pondering, and I was

898
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,320
gonna say I was discussing no and and.

899
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 4: It's rhetorical a little bit.

900
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I don't know, what do

901
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,719
you think, like, what what do you think about that?

902
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,159
Speaker 6: When here's what comes you know, Here's what comes to mind,

903
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,920
is is we know that the wheels at b Y

904
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,400
you sometimes move slowly. And I remember when b Y

905
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,760
you replaced Dave Rose, and it was what two weeks

906
00:43:56,079 --> 00:43:59,519
before we got Mark Pope signed and sealed uh and

907
00:43:59,519 --> 00:44:01,960
in the press conference, and we were amazed at that, Like,

908
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,159
how did that happen when it has to go through

909
00:44:04,199 --> 00:44:06,199
all of these silos and it has to go through

910
00:44:06,599 --> 00:44:10,639
the brethren up in Salt Lake. You understood why there

911
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,320
was a reason why it was slow anyway, and then

912
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,599
this one they get it done in what a day

913
00:44:16,599 --> 00:44:22,440
and a half. Yeah, so maybe biggest impediment was was

914
00:44:22,519 --> 00:44:25,239
the machinations and the process.

915
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,639
Speaker 2: Well as its athletics one hundred percent. No, but I'm

916
00:44:28,639 --> 00:44:30,760
talking about like the general Church. Like if I look

917
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,719
at the marketing efforts of the church right where they've

918
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,000
allocated bandwidth and and and support, like you know, they've

919
00:44:36,079 --> 00:44:38,079
changed over the years, right, I remember you to meet

920
00:44:38,119 --> 00:44:39,079
the Mormons campaign.

921
00:44:39,079 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 4: I'm a Mormon campaign.

922
00:44:40,039 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 2: Remember that, Like we're spending a lot of money to

923
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,760
what to normalize, to humanize, to to have it, you know,

924
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,719
kind of the tentacles reach out and say, hey, like

925
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:48,960
we're just like everybody else.

926
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,199
Speaker 4: We're we're normal. We're not We're not a bunch of

927
00:44:51,559 --> 00:44:51,840
you know.

928
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:58,039
Speaker 2: Overly religious, crazed zealots with multiple lives and and uh

929
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,920
absurd theology. It doesn't make any sense, and you know

930
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,880
what I mean, Like it's this normalization humanization element, and

931
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,559
so like as I was having this discussion, I think

932
00:45:08,639 --> 00:45:12,360
that's the biggest thing, right, And in my opinion, like

933
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,400
from what I've seen how the churches operate, they want

934
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:20,000
to have more yeah, like tentacles out there far and

935
00:45:20,039 --> 00:45:23,440
wide of real human contact and anecdotes, because we're only

936
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,280
as good as our anecdotes, right, We're only as good

937
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:26,239
as our human experience.

938
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 4: Right. They're seventeen million Mormons.

939
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 2: Half of those don't even go to church anymore, they're

940
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,639
not even affiliated with the church anymore. And then half

941
00:45:33,639 --> 00:45:37,400
of those, you know, seven eight million are are in

942
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,280
the United States of America's for formulas. So as it

943
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:40,960
pertains to the United States of America, you have four

944
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:46,159
million active lds amongst three hundred and fifty million people.

945
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:51,440
And so there's so many misconceptions about who Mormons and

946
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,079
Latter day Saints are, right, would you agree with that?

947
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,519
Speaker 6: Sure? And maybe not as many as there used to be,

948
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But yeah, I think that that's there.

949
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,559
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean it there right, And so like

950
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,360
what I said was, okay, like you want as many

951
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:09,800
human interactions as you can get with the platforms that

952
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,400
you have. And one of those platforms, you know, it's

953
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:16,719
the it's the the Tabernacle Choir, it's young Ambassadors, it's

954
00:46:17,039 --> 00:46:21,840
it's missionaries going out and in serving right and proselyting

955
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,800
and all those things. A part of that's BA athletics too,

956
00:46:25,039 --> 00:46:27,639
and then the alumni chapters that are serving in those

957
00:46:27,639 --> 00:46:31,920
communities and raising funds and raising foods of stuffs and

958
00:46:32,199 --> 00:46:35,920
impacting the community, serving right and and and all those things,

959
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,039
and creating human connection in those communities and normalizing and

960
00:46:39,119 --> 00:46:42,440
humanizing uh, those members of the church by serving right

961
00:46:42,519 --> 00:46:45,800
like and we're seeing more of that, uh through this process.

962
00:46:46,159 --> 00:46:48,079
And then then so I think of that, and then

963
00:46:48,079 --> 00:46:52,000
I also think of what's the what's the most Where

964
00:46:52,039 --> 00:46:55,679
is the most diverse place that exists within the Church

965
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,199
of Jesus Christ or Latter day Saints.

966
00:46:57,199 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 4: What's the most diverse place on earth?

967
00:47:01,519 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 3: I don't know where you're going, really don't.

968
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 6: I know.

969
00:47:05,079 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 2: I'm going add as follow me. It's it's it's the

970
00:47:09,559 --> 00:47:10,920
b y U athletic department.

971
00:47:11,519 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 4: Okay, that's the most diverse place.

972
00:47:13,679 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 2: That's the most diverse place on earth for for the

973
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,280
Church's Christ Lattery Saints.

974
00:47:20,519 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 5: Right, divers.

975
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 6: Diverse in the sense of what there are.

976
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 3: This city programs, ethnicity okay, uh right, culture, languages.

977
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:41,199
Speaker 2: Like yeah, eldest not eldest, Polynesian Blacks, Latinos right, like

978
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,320
and and you bring all that together and it's extremely impactful.

979
00:47:45,559 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 7: A J.

980
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,639
Speaker 4: Debonsa goes to church one week introduce.

981
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 6: To missionary prep class.

982
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like, like, how do you normalize the

983
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,360
humanize You bring other people that aren't of the faith

984
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,519
to to b yu and you let him experience the

985
00:47:58,519 --> 00:48:00,800
fruits of the faith, and then they go out into

986
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,000
the world and then they impact like, dude, you're wrong,

987
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:03,800
You're right.

988
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:04,559
Speaker 3: People have these.

989
00:48:05,639 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 2: Dave portno It comes to Provo, big New Kickoff, interacts

990
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,800
with Claune. He's like, I love Clide. He danced his

991
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,880
way into my heart. Is Dave Portnoy the most morally like,

992
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:20,119
superior spiritual man? No like, but like all of a

993
00:48:20,119 --> 00:48:22,960
sudden he becomes an advocate for byu maybe the faith

994
00:48:23,079 --> 00:48:27,320
and and and maybe we soften his heart to whatever

995
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,199
it is that he thought about Latter day Saints to

996
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:30,679
the first place and be waiting the first play and

997
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,079
what type of impact could you have? I saw the

998
00:48:33,119 --> 00:48:37,119
self righteous Rammi up to Mormons weep whil and gnash teeth.

999
00:48:37,199 --> 00:48:40,760
As Connor MacGregor showed up to BYU's Marriott Center for

1000
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,559
a basketball game, They're like, Wow, dare you He's an

1001
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:47,320
evil and horrific man. I'm like, man, did you not

1002
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,920
study the life of Jesus Christ and who he served,

1003
00:48:50,119 --> 00:48:53,079
who he ministered to? Did you get did you miss

1004
00:48:53,159 --> 00:48:57,119
that part of the of his life? Like like he

1005
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,239
was also criticized for hanging out with people that he

1006
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,679
shouldn't supposedly be hanging out with anyway. I know this

1007
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,280
is a rant, but like we're talking, you know, the

1008
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:10,239
role of athletics, I guess within the church, within BYU,

1009
00:49:10,559 --> 00:49:12,559
And I think when you take all of that, all

1010
00:49:12,599 --> 00:49:16,320
those thoughts that I have together, like, okay, it makes

1011
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,280
sense if we're doing it the right way, even though

1012
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,280
we're going to fall short and the student athletes are

1013
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:21,840
gonna fall short.

1014
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 4: You're gonna have a Jake Ritchlow situation.

1015
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:27,119
Speaker 2: You're gonna have a situation with uh, maybe a Dui

1016
00:49:27,159 --> 00:49:30,119
here and there, like it happens like these are. We're

1017
00:49:30,159 --> 00:49:32,559
in the fallen state and no one's gonna be perfect

1018
00:49:32,559 --> 00:49:33,840
and we're not going to live up to the standard

1019
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,000
that we set for ourselves. But it's all about the

1020
00:49:36,119 --> 00:49:39,960
end goal and eternal perspective in and hopefully introducing more

1021
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,599
people to the fruits of the faith in my opinion.

1022
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:44,079
Speaker 5: Yeah, good fruits.

1023
00:49:44,119 --> 00:49:46,519
Speaker 6: I was just gonna say that ben is what does

1024
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,000
what does it produce? What does the athletic de farm produce?

1025
00:49:50,039 --> 00:49:53,599
It produces good human beings? They have to step out

1026
00:49:53,639 --> 00:49:56,639
of the world and good human being Yeah, and that's

1027
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,159
that's the goal. And if people see that, they can

1028
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:04,480
maybe accept the fact that we're different and and and

1029
00:50:04,599 --> 00:50:06,880
just realize that we're just people trying to be good

1030
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,760
and trying to be the best version of ourselves. I mean.

1031
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 2: And then and think of all your favorite players that

1032
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,239
that played at b YU tied Emmer didn't come to

1033
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,760
b y U l d S. And I'm not saying, hey,

1034
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,480
you got to bring people in that aren't LDS and

1035
00:50:20,519 --> 00:50:22,639
then baptize them and like choking it up.

1036
00:50:22,639 --> 00:50:26,039
Speaker 4: But we got another one. We got another one. Yeah,

1037
00:50:26,119 --> 00:50:29,239
you know what I mean. But it's more, but it's offering.

1038
00:50:29,519 --> 00:50:30,639
It's kind of like what Gordon B.

1039
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,559
Speaker 2: Hinkley said, like, take all your truth, take all your happiness,

1040
00:50:33,599 --> 00:50:34,880
bring it here and let's see if we can add

1041
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,719
onto it and maybe you'll like it. You know, you

1042
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,480
don't know what you don't know to you know, Jamal Willis,

1043
00:50:40,519 --> 00:50:45,960
Caylin Hall, Curtis Brown, my teammate, right Like, that's what

1044
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,880
I mean. That's another is a huge component of it

1045
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,280
in my opinion. So, Darnell I was. I always learned

1046
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,239
something from you, man. Love talking to you.

1047
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 7: Well.

1048
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 6: I feel I feel like I should be sitting next

1049
00:50:57,519 --> 00:50:59,639
to you to kind of steel your aura as your

1050
00:50:59,639 --> 00:51:01,920
discussing this and get a better grip on it because

1051
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:02,760
I want.

1052
00:51:02,559 --> 00:51:03,679
Speaker 4: To embrace you right now.

1053
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:04,519
Speaker 6: Hard, it's hard.

1054
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to embrace you, man, Love you, Appreciate you.

1055
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,159
I love talking Cougar beats with you. Darnell Dixon, Ladies

1056
00:51:11,159 --> 00:51:12,199
and gener thanks so much, double d.

1057
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 6: All right, we'll see you soon.

1058
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a b yu fan here. I want

1059
00:51:17,079 --> 00:51:18,639
that mic close up to your face. Can you hear

1060
00:51:18,639 --> 00:51:19,360
me what I was saying here?

1061
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 4: Brother? Uh?

1062
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 2: And we'll get to a break here momentarily. But I

1063
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,719
want to give a big cougar roar to this awesome

1064
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:30,039
fan that just stopped by. Ken Harris dropping off some

1065
00:51:30,039 --> 00:51:31,199
some goods.

1066
00:51:31,079 --> 00:51:32,679
Speaker 4: Here to the road home.

1067
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 2: Appreciate you tuning in, Ken, Uh, tell us a little

1068
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,039
bit about yourself here as I bring that mic up

1069
00:51:39,039 --> 00:51:40,000
a little bit closer to you.

1070
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:40,519
Speaker 3: Uh.

1071
00:51:40,599 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, I just listened to your show every day drive.

1072
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,000
I'm on the road quite a bit. I actually come

1073
00:51:45,079 --> 00:51:47,039
visit the Sky dealerships and do business with them, and

1074
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,239
oh you do. Yeah, they're a great group. So I

1075
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:50,760
was on my way down to visit over at the

1076
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,119
Chrysler Jeep Dodge store there, and Uh, I was listening

1077
00:51:54,119 --> 00:51:55,719
to the radio. I'm like, I gotta stop and grab

1078
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,679
some stuff and bring it in because I really enjoy it.

1079
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,320
I could just sit here and listen to it. It's fun, dude,

1080
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,559
I appreciate it. Thanks for letting me kicking the all

1081
00:52:03,599 --> 00:52:04,159
above too.

1082
00:52:05,119 --> 00:52:06,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, and you're the one that said it.

1083
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,320
I was like, I'm kind of going through these random poles.

1084
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,639
Sometimes I put them out right. Sometimes some of them

1085
00:52:11,639 --> 00:52:12,920
are good, some of them are bad, right.

1086
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:13,599
Speaker 4: Let's be honest.

1087
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 2: But I think that's a good one because there are

1088
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,000
a lot of people that just want to see it

1089
00:52:17,039 --> 00:52:19,840
go away. And I'm like, wait, like it brings way

1090
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:24,559
more good than and creates more positive fruits, then it

1091
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:26,239
creates bad fruits.

1092
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 7: I was thinking as we were sitting here, we all

1093
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,960
want to c B, why you get into the conference playoffs?

1094
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,840
Right right into the playoffs? Yes, but we are also

1095
00:52:33,079 --> 00:52:35,000
lots of missionaries out there. We're used to knocking on

1096
00:52:35,039 --> 00:52:36,639
that door and them not respond.

1097
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 6: No.

1098
00:52:37,079 --> 00:52:39,639
Speaker 4: I was sitting there thinking about that. So anyway, Hey,

1099
00:52:39,679 --> 00:52:42,280
I really appreciate what you do. It's fun. I heard

1100
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:43,400
your guy on the other.

1101
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 2: End, So yeah, so val hell coming up next, But

1102
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,239
can't we solute you man, appreciate you, God blessed, thanks

1103
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,280
for coming in and giving you back. And then hey,

1104
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,360
yeah I got I want to get your address so

1105
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,519
I can send you some royal army brand to grab

1106
00:52:56,519 --> 00:52:59,320
a piece of pizza, and then all text you and

1107
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,639
then okay, send me your actress so I can drop some.

1108
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:03,079
Speaker 4: Swag on you.

1109
00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 5: Cool.

1110
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 2: Appreciate it, Hi guy, Ken Harris, Ladies and gentlemen, shout

1111
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,079
out to him for stopping by.

1112
00:53:07,159 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 4: We'll go to break guys, please don't go anywhere.

1113
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 2: Want to remind you guys, though, that we have tickets

1114
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,840
that we want to give away to an event at

1115
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,280
the Delta Center coming up here shortly in December. Shout

1116
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,840
out to the Salt Lake City Slam doubleheader.

1117
00:53:23,199 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 4: It's at a.

1118
00:53:24,519 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 2: Utah Valley University playing University at Cal Santa Barbara twelve

1119
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:32,000
pm and then Utah State will face Illinois State University

1120
00:53:32,079 --> 00:53:34,400
at three pm in salt in the Salt Lake Slam

1121
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,679
at the Delta Center December thirteenth. Listen to Bryce and

1122
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,320
Biannucci at eight twenty am throughout the week for chance

1123
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:41,400
to win your tickets.

1124
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 4: That's right, let's go to break.

1125
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere more to get to This is Cougar

1126
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:45,880
Sports one three nine ninety eight point three