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Speaker 1: and welcome to Movie Haunts, a new segment from the
Speaker 1: Haunted UK podcast for Possessed TA members only. In Movie Haunts,
Speaker 1: I'll be reviewing movies and giving you my recommendations of
Speaker 1: whether you should give them a watch or give them
Speaker 1: a miss. But in the end it's you who make
Speaker 1: the final decision. Being a paranormal podcast at heart, only
Speaker 1: movies which have a paranormal, supernatural or sci fi element
Speaker 1: to them will be up for review. But with that
Speaker 1: being said, this is a mini series which I want you,
Speaker 1: the listeners, to drive forwards. I want to hear from
Speaker 1: you with suggestions of movies which you'd like me to
Speaker 1: take a look at and then review. I'll then be
Speaker 1: putting up a poll on Patreon giving you the chance
Speaker 1: to give the movie a rating of one to five stars. So,
Speaker 1: without further ado, let's see what movie we have up
Speaker 1: for review for this month. Released in nineteen eighty two,
Speaker 1: The Thing is a sci fi horror movie directed by
Speaker 1: John Carpenter and starring Kurt Russell, Wilford Brimley, T. K. Carter,
Speaker 1: David Glenn and Keith David, Richard Daisart, Charles Hallahan, Peter Maloney,
Speaker 1: Richard Masur, Donald Maffatt, Joel Pollis, and Thomas Waits. Carpenter
Speaker 1: had been on an amazing run of successful movies before
Speaker 1: The Thing came along, such as Assault on Precinct thirteen, Halloween,
Speaker 1: The Fog, and Escape from New York. But The Thing
Speaker 1: remains one of John Carpenter's most memorable pieces of work.
Speaker 1: It's actually based on the nineteen thirty eight book Who
Speaker 1: Goes There by John W. Campbell, and was first developed
Speaker 1: into a motion picture in nineteen fifty one's of The
Speaker 1: Thing from Another World. The creature or protagonist in that
Speaker 1: movie was an actor in makeup and a suit, but
Speaker 1: John Carpenter wanted to go in a slightly different direction
Speaker 1: to this and instead have a number of different set
Speaker 1: piece creatures, and the one man who could bring The
Speaker 1: Thing to life was special effects genius Rob Botein. At
Speaker 1: the time of production and filming of The Thing, Botin
Speaker 1: was only twenty three years old, and although he'd been
Speaker 1: under the mentorship of special effects legend Rick Baker for
Speaker 1: a number of years, it was his stunning werewolf transformation
Speaker 1: scene in the movie The Howling that really put him
Speaker 1: in the spotlight. He first worked with Carpenter our nineteen
Speaker 1: eighties horror The Fog and actually played one of the
Speaker 1: dead sailors. Towards the end of the movie, Carpenter decided
Speaker 1: to bring him into the Thing to see if he
Speaker 1: could re imagine the creature and its various forms which
Speaker 1: Carpenter had envisioned. In the end, it was Carpenter who
Speaker 1: was asking Rob Botein if what he'd created was actually possible,
Speaker 1: and these feats you can actually see multiple times throughout
Speaker 1: the whole movie. Such was the massive workload alone for
Speaker 1: the special effects that it called for Botein to work
Speaker 1: almost sixty full weeks straight, no breaks, and he was
Speaker 1: subsequently hospitalized after filming was completed due to chronic exhaustion.
Speaker 1: Kurt ross 's incredibly handsome beard is actually all his
Speaker 1: own work, and he began growing get a year before
Speaker 1: filming started. The movie was filmed on refrigerated sets in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles and on location in Alaska and British Columbia.
Speaker 1: Now the budget for The Thing was initially agreed at
Speaker 1: around ten million dollars, but this overran by some five
Speaker 1: million dollars due to the extensive special effects work and
Speaker 1: set design costs, bringing the total to around fifteen million dollars.
Speaker 1: To save money, even further, and I don't know if
Speaker 1: you've noticed this, by the way, we've got Marie here now.
Speaker 1: To save money even further, a number of scenes were cut,
Speaker 1: and it was decided that the movie be filmed in reverse,
Speaker 1: so the American camp scenes first, then the Norwegian camp
Speaker 1: scenes last, using the same set. The Thing was released
Speaker 1: on the twenty fifth of June nineteen eighty two to
Speaker 1: mix to negative reviews, with some describing it as quote
Speaker 1: instant junk, wretched, excess, cold and sterile, and best of all,
Speaker 1: the quintessential moron movie of the eighties. It finished its
Speaker 1: theatrical run making just nineteen point nine million dollars, so
Speaker 1: it was a box office failure for Universal Pictures and
Speaker 1: a huge career low point for John Carpenter. In all
Speaker 1: fairness to Carpenter, I feel that it was Universal Pictures
Speaker 1: that made the biggest mistake. They decided to release The
Speaker 1: Thing in the same month as smash hits such as
Speaker 1: Et the Extraterrestrial, which made three hundred and fifty nine
Speaker 1: million dollars, Star Trek two, The Ruff of Khn seventy
Speaker 1: eight million dollars, Poltergeist seventy six million dollars, Firefox forty
Speaker 1: six million dollars Blade Runner, and this was even considered
Speaker 1: an absolute flop, a commercial flop. Blade Runner was, and
Speaker 1: that still made twenty seven million dollars. Even the musical
Speaker 1: Anni made fifty seven million dollars. Universal didn't really do
Speaker 1: their due diligence here when researching the upcoming studio releases,
Speaker 1: and it really didn't help the thing at all. But
Speaker 1: when it was released on VHS, it really found its audience,
Speaker 1: and over the last almost forty three years since its release,
Speaker 1: it's been reevaluated by critics who have unanimously applauded its story, script, acting,
Speaker 1: and its director, but above all, in my opinion, Robbotine's
Speaker 1: truly amazing special effects work. It is now seen as
Speaker 1: one of the greatest sci fi horror movies ever made. So, Marie,
Speaker 1: you watched the Thing over the last few evenings, what
Speaker 1: do you think? Eh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I well, yeah, it's just just firstly, it took
Speaker 2: me three nights to watch it, okay, because I'm pathetic
Speaker 2: and fall asleep as soon as I commit to watch something. Lately,
Speaker 2: I've got thirty minutes watch a film. That's my wingspan.
Speaker 2: My husband Tom probably less, so it took three nights
Speaker 2: and a lot of drawl right kit fall asleep. But
Speaker 2: it did keep me awake, and I did really enjoy it.
Speaker 2: It did put me off my sausage castrole. You know.
Speaker 2: I did make a sausage castrole the next day after
Speaker 2: the first part of my trilogy of viewing, and I
Speaker 2: fully expected it to sprout legs like a spider legs
Speaker 2: and just go for me. I'm not sure I can't
Speaker 2: eat a sausage casserole again. Actually, was this.
Speaker 1: The first Is this the first time you'd actually watched
Speaker 1: the film?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, okay, It's always been on my radar, and
Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess I always thought it was
Speaker 2: a bit of a boy's film, which I know is
Speaker 2: not a very good thing to say. You know, sort
Speaker 2: of boys in my life have been obsessed with it,
Speaker 2: and I guess that put me off because I don't
Speaker 2: like The Godfather. Ivery one loved The Godfather. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's a bit of a.
Speaker 1: Boy I'm going to make a bit of a confession.
Speaker 2: He obsessive. Yeah what, I'm not really a fan of
Speaker 2: the No No. I I was a little bit bored
Speaker 2: by it, but anyway, I wasn't with a thing. I
Speaker 2: absolutely loved it. And you know, apart from the sausage
Speaker 2: castle role thing, I just's so much I want to
Speaker 2: say about it. Okay, I just loved it. I loved
Speaker 2: the opening, and I loved the ending.
Speaker 1: Okay, So the opening, we see at the very start
Speaker 1: of the film, a strange event happening with a helicopter
Speaker 1: chasing a By the way, before we do continue, there
Speaker 1: are going to be spoilers in this, So if you
Speaker 1: don't want to know any more about the movie or
Speaker 1: maybe some spoiler plots here and there, switch off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but if you want to hear more about a sausage
Speaker 1: castle role spreading legs, then just carry on listening. So
Speaker 1: we see a strange thing with the helicopter chasing a
Speaker 1: husky dog, and I love that dog.
Speaker 2: I was like, please, I was going to text you,
Speaker 2: so Steve, tell me something happens to that dog.
Speaker 1: Doesn't die, A lots of things happen to that dog
Speaker 1: and all of the other dogs unfortunately.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I really liked how it almost felt like
Speaker 2: you were watching the end of another film at the start,
Speaker 2: because you're in the middle of the action straight away
Speaker 2: and got his beautiful husky dog running against his start
Speaker 2: backdrop of the snow, and you've got this helicopter ferociously
Speaker 2: hunting it down, and you realize this isn't the Christmas Chronicles.
Speaker 1: But it's definitely He's definitely not Santa.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, please don't kill that dog. But I
Speaker 2: sort of wish they did. Not No, I didn't want
Speaker 2: or not. You know, I love dogs, but but knowing
Speaker 2: what I know, now, yeah, and I thought the dog scene,
Speaker 2: which is sort of the first show piece but isn't
Speaker 2: it with the special effects, was absolutely brilliant and awful
Speaker 2: at the same time. And I've got my English teacher
Speaker 2: media teacher hat on here. I'm really sorry, but no, this.
Speaker 1: Is fine, this is great.
Speaker 2: The dogs sort of reminded me of the men. I
Speaker 2: thought there's a bit of a similarity because they're both impacts,
Speaker 2: and the men with that fairy Parker jackets a bit
Speaker 2: a bit dog like, aren't they a little bit feral
Speaker 2: and together? And I just thought it was really clever,
Speaker 2: how you sort of they sort of the dogs sort
Speaker 2: of foreshadow what's going to happen to the men, And
Speaker 2: I don't know, I just thought was interesting, you know,
Speaker 2: I felt like the dogs in a way were just
Speaker 2: like the men.
Speaker 1: Yeah, would you like to have an interesting fact about
Speaker 1: the dog the star beautiful dogs.
Speaker 2: I love them dogs consume by the thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that particular dog was half wolf.
Speaker 2: Really, I like a real wolf.
Speaker 1: It was half wolf. And Clark, the guy who you
Speaker 1: know the characters, wasn't it. Yeah, yeah, but he he
Speaker 1: bonded quite quite you know, quite closely to the dog.
Speaker 1: But what he said, the one scene that he said
Speaker 1: really terrified him was the bit where they where he
Speaker 1: puts the dog in the pen with the other dogs
Speaker 1: and he walks away and the dog just sits there, well,
Speaker 1: lies there, and he's just staring.
Speaker 2: Straight and you know something's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: And he said when they actually filmed that, the dog
Speaker 1: just didn't move. It was just staring. Yeah. It was
Speaker 1: creeping the film crew out while they were doing it
Speaker 1: because it just didn't move at all. It just didn't move. So,
Speaker 1: as you say, yeah, the first the first set piece
Speaker 1: kicks off, and it is in my opinion, I just
Speaker 1: think it's spectacular. I watched this, oh yeah, probably eighty
Speaker 1: four eighty five, around the time of Back to the Future,
Speaker 1: and I've always said that there are two movies that terrified.
Speaker 1: One was American Werewolf in London. I watched it way
Speaker 1: too long. Now people will look at that again and
Speaker 1: just think it's it's this and that. I still don't
Speaker 1: think it's and.
Speaker 2: No it's not.
Speaker 1: I think there are a couple of there's an element
Speaker 1: in American Werewolf that frightens me. And what frightens me
Speaker 1: with the American Werewolf is that opening set of scenes.
Speaker 1: They don't do what normal people in horror movies go
Speaker 1: and do they accidentally stray off that road. They as
Speaker 1: soon as they start hearing noises. It's there is going
Speaker 1: to be some language in this, this, this, these these reviews.
Speaker 1: By the way, it's like ship David, what is that
Speaker 1: they are? They are doing everything that you would normally do. Right,
Speaker 1: let's turn around to walk away and you know.
Speaker 2: What, That's what the thing is like as well, because
Speaker 2: they do stuff that you would do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now, this is why the thing frightened me because
Speaker 1: of the special effects, especially because of that dog at
Speaker 1: the start. You know, when when I was that you,
Speaker 1: I'd never look at a dog in the same way.
Speaker 1: But what I found fascinating about it was it's something
Speaker 1: that could happen yeah, it is something that could easily happen.
Speaker 1: You have no idea what is under those layers and
Speaker 1: layers of ice in the Arctic and Antarctic, you know,
Speaker 1: in the polar regions.
Speaker 2: Isn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've also got no idea of the lakes that
Speaker 1: are hidden underneath. And I think that you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: there have been you know, Russian scientists that have drilled
Speaker 1: down into some of these likes and the thing is
Speaker 1: you're you're drilling into something that's probably got millions and
Speaker 1: millions of years old bacteria in stuff that we have
Speaker 1: no idea how it's going to affect the human rights.
Speaker 2: Never thought.
Speaker 1: Yeah, these are the things that sent me completely paranoid
Speaker 1: with the thing. And that was the other thing that
Speaker 1: I loved about it. Yeah, the paranoia, Oh.
Speaker 2: My god, absolutely, are you not? Well we'll talk about
Speaker 2: the ending in a minute, but you're not sure who
Speaker 2: is in the simulation.
Speaker 1: Do you?
Speaker 2: And yeah, what was it? So much of it that
Speaker 2: scared me? But I think what just similar to you
Speaker 2: is so the paranoia and that mimicry. Mimics scare me anyway,
Speaker 2: and doppelgangers, all that kind of thing. And also I
Speaker 2: guess the men were like things to the thing. You know,
Speaker 2: the thing didn't really care about didn't really care about
Speaker 2: Kurt Russell's beard or them as a person or individuals.
Speaker 2: You do, but I do, but the thing doesn't. It's
Speaker 2: just a host. There were just hosts for it is
Speaker 2: a viral things fact, whatever it is, whatever the thing is,
Speaker 2: you just saw that as hosts. I didn't seem to
Speaker 2: human or people. And that scares me. I kind of
Speaker 2: think that's what aliens might be. Like, that's what scares me.
Speaker 2: They won't care about Obviously, they're not going to see
Speaker 2: us as people. They're going to see us it's just
Speaker 2: things as well, do you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 2: we just see us as not even food, just sort
Speaker 2: of hosts. It's horrible. I don't know if I made
Speaker 2: sense at all there. I've just blabbered on, but.
Speaker 1: It's perfect sense. One of the other. A few of
Speaker 1: the interesting things that Rob Boteine said when he was
Speaker 1: designing the creatures was he each creature was drastically different
Speaker 1: from the last one, and he said the reason for
Speaker 1: that was because when he read the script, he looked
Speaker 1: at the script and felt that the thing was a
Speaker 1: type of collector. Yeah, it had been all over the
Speaker 1: you know, all over the galaxy, through the universe, and
Speaker 1: collected these various samples of creatures and animals and simulated them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's horrible.
Speaker 1: And yeah, and it could be anything, you know, it
Speaker 1: could you never properly actually see what the real thing is,
Speaker 1: like you.
Speaker 2: See that's right? What is it? I mean, what the
Speaker 2: hell is it? It's just horrible.
Speaker 1: We will get to that towards the end.
Speaker 2: Okay, I've got so many questions and okay, I mean,
Speaker 2: are you are you real, Steve? You're not in a similation,
Speaker 2: are you? It's yeah, reason but that was a scary
Speaker 2: thing about it is that you don't know who's who.
Speaker 2: You don't know who the thing is, not even at
Speaker 2: the end, which we'll talking about in the moment, because
Speaker 2: I absolutely when I first watched the ending, I was like,
Speaker 2: what's that it? But on reflection, I thought it was
Speaker 2: bloody brilliant, absolutely brilliant, very brave because I had different endings,
Speaker 2: didn't they as well? They had was rescued and they
Speaker 2: tested his blood and it was all okay. But I
Speaker 2: I really love the ending because I don't know it all.
Speaker 2: It's like they just sort of realize that they're screwed
Speaker 2: and that's not what you expect at all. You know,
Speaker 2: they're just sort of that's just so much like life.
Speaker 2: There's not always a solution, is there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, and it's.
Speaker 2: They were just like, oh bugger, but like me and
Speaker 2: you when the recording goes wrong or something of that
Speaker 2: kind of scenario. Yeah. I just thought that was that
Speaker 2: was really clever, really clever. Left it open and you're
Speaker 2: not sure if child if child's is.
Speaker 1: Child's disappeared through that whole end process. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I think you know, when they went down into the
Speaker 1: generator room, that was a great line. You know, MacCready
Speaker 1: the generator is gone. Well we'll have to summon to
Speaker 1: backup per or something. No, it's gone. The generator had
Speaker 1: just completely been ripped out of its hous You said.
Speaker 2: Really interesting about VHS. Yes, did you went this from
Speaker 2: the video shop?
Speaker 1: Yes? I did.
Speaker 2: Is that how you first came across it, because obviously
Speaker 2: that's how it became popular, wasn't it? But there was
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, we were both of the
Speaker 2: same generation where we went to the video shop and
Speaker 2: it was a magical thing, wasn't it. You can discover
Speaker 2: new titles on your own terms. Yeah, and that's obviously
Speaker 2: what happened for a lot of people here. But I
Speaker 2: really missed going to the video shop.
Speaker 1: Actually, I always used to like going to Blockbuster, to
Speaker 1: be honest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, titles. Just miss those days. Just you know, kids
Speaker 2: today just have.
Speaker 1: That at that excitement of sticking a videotape in a
Speaker 1: video video machine and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, having to rewind it. But I guess, I mean
Speaker 2: it's it's a sort of film that benefits from a
Speaker 2: rewash as well, isn't it. Yes, so you can notice
Speaker 2: more stuff. But I suppose that's what I'm trying to
Speaker 2: imagine you in eight is you know, get it from
Speaker 2: the video shop. I'm probably watching it quite a few times,
Speaker 2: is that what?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I watched the I watched it the first time,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I was kind of terrified with it, but
Speaker 1: I was in absolute awe of it, you know, because
Speaker 1: of the special effects, but because I was quite I
Speaker 1: was just really interested in the acting as well. And
Speaker 1: I love the element of paranoia that gets injected through
Speaker 1: the entire crew, as you say, through all of it.
Speaker 1: They don't know if the person standing next to them
Speaker 1: is real. And I think that's terrifying, especially in an
Speaker 1: environment where you've got no escape, you cannot get out.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's it. They're so isolated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a brilliant that is. They really
Speaker 1: hit on a trick when they when that, you know,
Speaker 1: when they set it out there. Yeah, because you know,
Speaker 1: they didn't need a big cast, so you kind of
Speaker 1: get to know them a bit more. I mean quite
Speaker 1: a few scenes were cut and left on the on
Speaker 1: the you know, the editing floor, which would have explained
Speaker 1: a little bit more about the characters. But I think
Speaker 1: Universal just wanted it chopped down to a smaller run time,
Speaker 1: which you know, as John Carpenter would probably admit, most
Speaker 1: director's cuts are probably like thirteen hours, and that's how
Speaker 1: they would love it to be seen. But you can't.
Speaker 1: You can't really repeat it that many times a day
Speaker 1: if your film's thirteen hours long. But yeah, I loved
Speaker 1: it for a lot of different reasons like that. And
Speaker 1: it was all around the same time, as I say
Speaker 1: American Well, and I'll tell you another one that came
Speaker 1: out around the same time, and that frightened me as well,
Speaker 1: and that was The Fly with Jeff Goldblum.
Speaker 2: I've never seen the Fly.
Speaker 1: We'll have to do the Fly because he gives a
Speaker 1: real tour de force. Jeff Goldblum does the amount of
Speaker 1: makeup and stuff that he had to go through to
Speaker 1: do that. But it was it's kind of messing with
Speaker 1: it's messing with nature or nature messing with you, and
Speaker 1: it's tragic, and that I kind of found a very
Speaker 1: very similar thing with the thing it was, especially when
Speaker 1: it gets to the end of It's tragic. You've got
Speaker 1: no idea what's going on, You've got no idea if
Speaker 1: one of them is actually the thing. It leaves it
Speaker 1: just so open ended. And then it made me start thinking,
Speaker 1: but what if a helicopter rescue that rescue helicopter and
Speaker 1: that rescue mission the windows were constantly trying to get
Speaker 1: through to on the radio, trying to get a rescue
Speaker 1: mission organized. What if that actually turned up and fend
Speaker 1: them frozen to death? Yeah, and then took them back
Speaker 1: to a civilized you.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, equal, wouldn't it Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean at the end of the film, it felt
Speaker 2: like it was going to begin again as well, didn't
Speaker 2: you That they're found and then someone else has been
Speaker 2: the same scenario.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but again I think it was the Box Office
Speaker 1: that killed it from from the making a sequel. I
Speaker 1: think there was there was a sequel being written to it.
Speaker 1: But the other thing that the other thing that frightened
Speaker 1: me as well was when you see Blair doing the
Speaker 1: calculations on the computer.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know they're kind of you know, worse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really love a computers.
Speaker 1: But it was you know, how it worked, how it
Speaker 1: got yeah, you know, captured the cells and replicated them.
Speaker 1: And then he asks the question, you know, projection about
Speaker 1: if it reached a populated area, was it twenty seven
Speaker 1: thousand hours? I think from first contact it would take
Speaker 1: over the entire world population. Yeah. That's just frightening.
Speaker 2: It is very frightening. Yeah, Like I say, it frightened
Speaker 2: me because I think that's what aliens might actually be like, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it just wouldn't care. They're just devour you. And I'm
Speaker 2: not sure they'd be friendly. I'm not sure they'd be
Speaker 2: like et no, no, no, Which was it, Like you say,
Speaker 2: it's rival released the same week was it a week before?
Speaker 1: I think it was. Yeah. I just think that's there
Speaker 1: was there was another one that that kind of got
Speaker 1: absolutely trounced. I can't remember what it was, but again,
Speaker 1: it was a really good film, but another studio I
Speaker 1: made the horrific mistake of releasing it when Jurassic Park
Speaker 1: came out, and we all know what happened when anything
Speaker 1: went near Jurassic Park. I mean it just yeah, the
Speaker 1: t Rexes just ate them all up. It was I
Speaker 1: just don't think they did theirself any favor. And you know,
Speaker 1: John Carpenter kind of blamed himself and said that he
Speaker 1: took the rejection really bad. Yeah, when people critics were
Speaker 1: slate in it, and you know, people were leaving the
Speaker 1: cinema because it was too violent and too gory and
Speaker 1: things like that, he really did take it. He took
Speaker 1: it really really hard. But yeah, I'm glad that it
Speaker 1: did get that it did get re evaluated, because I
Speaker 1: just think it's an amazing movie. It really really stands
Speaker 1: the test of time. Yes, you can tell that the
Speaker 1: effect aren't cgi it's all practical, Yeah, but.
Speaker 2: I love that. I think it's more believable.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, when it gets his head ripped off and
Speaker 2: turns into a spider, it just looks real, so tangible
Speaker 2: and full of texture, and you know, it makes you
Speaker 2: feel sick. Yeah, I don't think cgi I can do that.
Speaker 1: When it's bending down the table and you see all
Speaker 1: the green tendons like.
Speaker 2: That detail, and like you say, it was sort of
Speaker 2: a dawn of a new era of special effects, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: They just like to you at that point. I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't know much about special effects, but like rubber stuff,
Speaker 2: wasn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, there's a brilliant couple of little stories that
Speaker 1: they'd set up. One particular shot, I can't remember the
Speaker 1: scene that they actually set up, but robot teams spent
Speaker 1: absolutely ages making the dummy up for everything and the
Speaker 1: special effects stuff, and they had one take at it
Speaker 1: at that time, and they ended up something. Something caught fire.
Speaker 1: But the even Robbot team was saying the amount of
Speaker 1: plastic and stuff and things and chemicals that we were
Speaker 1: just pouring into bits that made it look good. It
Speaker 1: just said we didn't realize all of it was flammable,
Speaker 1: and you know, the whole lot you know, goes off
Speaker 1: and starts burning the set down, but they managed to
Speaker 1: do that. Another really interesting bit was, you know, when
Speaker 1: Popper is trying to restart the heart of is it Norris, Yeah, Norris,
Speaker 1: and his chest opens and his arm's going and he
Speaker 1: pulls them. Yeah, this is brilliant how this was done.
Speaker 1: So they got an amputy right in they Rubbotine had
Speaker 1: made a like a death mask of Copper's face, laid
Speaker 1: it over the actor to make it look like him,
Speaker 1: did all the eyebrows or the hair, everything, and they
Speaker 1: went when the scene where the thing closes around its
Speaker 1: arms and he pulls them off, that's the amputy obviously
Speaker 1: with no arms. Oh my god, I just then that
Speaker 1: absolutely amazing.
Speaker 2: That is amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, how do you do that? How do you
Speaker 1: think of that? Twenty three years old?
Speaker 2: She's only twenty three.
Speaker 1: He was only twenty three.
Speaker 2: So what did he go on to do? I don't
Speaker 2: know much about him.
Speaker 1: Rob Boutin did, Yeah, he did the howling, he did
Speaker 1: obviously the thing he went on and did total recall. Right,
Speaker 1: But it was again another film that after this that
Speaker 1: really shoved him on the map, and that was RoboCop.
Speaker 1: So he designed the entire of the RoboCop suit. He
Speaker 1: built it, and there was a great a great bid
Speaker 1: in that. I don't know. I don't know whether you've
Speaker 1: seen RoboCop.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, so probably the worst person.
Speaker 1: No, right, So again we'll probably do RoboCop as well.
Speaker 1: But you need to be prepared for absolute ultra violence
Speaker 1: because it's a pul Verjova movie and it is incredibly violent,
Speaker 1: incredibly violent, and there's a scene in it where Murphy
Speaker 1: the police officer is shot to pieces and that you know,
Speaker 1: a guy blows his hand off and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and Robotin did all of this and again there's an
Speaker 1: amazing I'm going to give a plug to him. Actually
Speaker 1: it's a I think it's Dead Mouse product Dead Mouse Productions.
Speaker 1: I think I've posted something about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's.
Speaker 1: For anyone interested who wants to know all about Robocopper
Speaker 1: and who's really interested in it, there's a I think
Speaker 1: it's a three or four part documentary that's on Amazon
Speaker 1: that he made and lit well all of the casts
Speaker 1: that are still surviving because it was made back in
Speaker 1: eighty nine or eighty eight, that they go through this
Speaker 1: huge interview and it is fascinating how it was done,
Speaker 1: Absolutely fascinating. And I found out from that chap that
Speaker 1: rob Botine he literally fell off the face of the planet.
Speaker 1: I think it was roughly after Witches of Eastwig or something.
Speaker 1: He did a lot of stuff on the Witches of
Speaker 1: East Week and just disappeared. And apparently what it said
Speaker 1: had happened was there was an he'd done some sort
Speaker 1: of interview or something like that and got misquoted and
Speaker 1: just hated Hollywood for it. So he went into real
Speaker 1: estate and that's what he's been doing ever since.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, he.
Speaker 1: Came yea, he came out of retireation. Yeah, he came
Speaker 1: out of retirement I think in twenty fourteen to do
Speaker 1: some bits for Game of Thrones, But that that was it.
Speaker 1: Really a guy with all of that talent.
Speaker 2: I guess it'd be in his I think he's sixty five.
Speaker 1: I think he was born in fifty nine or fifty
Speaker 1: six or something like that. He's in his sixties. I
Speaker 1: think he's in his.
Speaker 2: Six He is astonishing, So he's it's probably retired now,
Speaker 2: isn't he.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. I mean he did
Speaker 1: say that he'd made he'd made more money in real
Speaker 1: estate than he ever made doing, you know, on special effects.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just a fascinating guy.
Speaker 2: But did he do Gremlins? No, Kremlin's sort of merged
Speaker 2: into one with.
Speaker 1: Similar Yeah, Gremlin's was brilliant. Again, I have to.
Speaker 2: Do that, and it's sort of I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 2: how old were you when you watched the thing? Because
Speaker 2: I imagine it really did stay with you. You were
Speaker 2: too young?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I was born in seventy four, so
Speaker 1: I was I was probably about nine or ten. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's pretty young, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was around then with American were Wolf
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's the sort of thing you know, you sort of
Speaker 2: do talk about in the playground. I just remember the
Speaker 2: people saying about various films and kid growing up. I
Speaker 2: think the Thing was one of them. You know, head
Speaker 2: gets ripped off. Yeah, you can't believe it, but it
Speaker 2: does happen, and it's very believable.
Speaker 1: I'll watch other ones. I mean, my mum used to
Speaker 1: say things like, oh, you want to watch a Clockwork Orange?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's terrible. Oh god, it's really And
Speaker 1: I've watched the Clockwork Orange and it's a good film. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I sat there watching it thinking, God, the things
Speaker 1: so much better than this, or it's so much you know, more,
Speaker 1: more Gloria and more, and it's.
Speaker 2: Got a lot too, it isn't It's such a shame
Speaker 2: that it got so slam you know, because there's so
Speaker 2: much to it. I mean, it's got a lot of
Speaker 2: plot holes and it hasn't it, but it you know,
Speaker 2: I can't work out go on if they if they
Speaker 2: if they know that they're the thing, the thing or not.
Speaker 2: But I don't know if that matters. I don't know,
Speaker 2: does it get their memory first or I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's horrible to think about, isn't it. Maybe that was
Speaker 1: purposely left out for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I quite like that though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. And again I like the ambiguity
Speaker 1: of the ending.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like I say, it's so brave, so ahead
Speaker 2: of its time to have an action here at the
Speaker 2: end say we're screwed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're screwed.
Speaker 2: We're not going to make this brilliant because that is life,
Speaker 2: Yeah it is.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's just I just thought that, really that
Speaker 2: was brave, and you know it's just original.
Speaker 1: One by one obviously this thing starts going through the
Speaker 1: camp folks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't remember the order.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kurt Russell's Kurt Russell's character is a guy called I. I
Speaker 1: Jae McCready, who he's a helicopter pilot, and you've obviously
Speaker 1: got other scientists there. You've got a guy who takes
Speaker 1: cares of the who takes care of the sled dogs
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And the plot really revolves around
Speaker 1: the start of the movie where we'd spoke about seeing
Speaker 1: the husky, and they obviously find out that the pilot
Speaker 1: and the co pilot who was shooting at the dog
Speaker 1: were Norwegian. They know that there's a Norwegian camp not
Speaker 1: far from the USA one, so they go in thet
Speaker 1: they get up in the helicopter and fly to the
Speaker 1: Norwegian camp, where they discover some quite horrific things. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They discover a well, they discover an axe in the wall.
Speaker 1: They discover a guy who's frozen to death in a seat,
Speaker 1: who's cut his own wrists and the blood is frozen
Speaker 1: as it's been dripping out of his wrists.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They also discover for a strange thing outside that looks
Speaker 1: like it's something that was in the middle of transforming
Speaker 1: into something and its faces melted, if you like. Into
Speaker 1: that's a brilliant effect that is, where you've got half
Speaker 1: of its jaw there and half down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the imagination of it all. Yeah, it's real stuff
Speaker 2: that wants you dream. It's sort of remind you of
Speaker 2: I guess insects, you know, I don't know, like the
Speaker 2: stream insects. And then it just taps into that horror
Speaker 2: of that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And they find this strange empty block of ice in
Speaker 1: the Norwegian camp. So they find all of these old videotapes,
Speaker 1: don't They take them back and they start to watch
Speaker 1: them and work out that they found something somewhere near
Speaker 1: their camp. They locate the place where they've been going
Speaker 1: out and mooching around in the ice, and the creedy
Speaker 1: goes up with screwing, I'm going up anywhere because it's
Speaker 1: like forby below adside all of this stuff, and they
Speaker 1: find we do we do the spoiler? Just do it?
Speaker 1: Just do it? Yeah. So they find a UFO that
Speaker 1: has crash landed in the ice, and they estimate that
Speaker 1: the ice that it's been buried in is roughly around
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand years old.
Speaker 2: It's nicely done, that though, isn't it that explanation?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's brilliantly done. Yeah, the backscatter effect he calls it. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And they find the open cavity if you like, where
Speaker 1: the block of ice has been cut from, which is
Speaker 1: still in the Norwegian camp orbit empty. So it's then
Speaker 1: down to what have they found? What were they working on?
Speaker 1: Why was that block of ice there? What was in it?
Speaker 1: And mccred he's getting all of these questions. Is in it?
Speaker 1: And he's like, I don't know. You know, one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand years ago, this thing crashes on Earth, it gets
Speaker 1: thrown out or crawls out. You know, they wake it up,
Speaker 1: probably not in the best of moods.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, for quite a while I was it builds
Speaker 2: up to that, doesn't it, and like it a big
Speaker 2: ice cube. It was like just stare at an ice cube. Oh,
Speaker 2: it's not it. But obviously you realize it's yes, you.
Speaker 1: Do, you do. And it continues to go through the
Speaker 1: movie and you continue to see these people being picked
Speaker 1: off one by one by this strange thing, and you know,
Speaker 1: you get the One of the best scenes is that
Speaker 1: scene in the wreck room where they try to develop
Speaker 1: a test.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the blood testing.
Speaker 1: The blood test. Yeah, someone gets to the blood because
Speaker 1: I think it's copper that says if they mix uncontaminated
Speaker 1: blood with contaminated blood, there should be a reaction. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: obviously Copper gets killed, the blood gets to someone gets
Speaker 1: to the blood and drains the blood supply, so they
Speaker 1: haven't got that. So it's Kurt ross Or that thinks
Speaker 1: well after being shut outside, because again that's another great
Speaker 1: paranoid thing when I think Norse comes back with Macready's.
Speaker 2: Can we talk about Norles for seconds? Because he's on
Speaker 2: roller skates and his sweatband and I just want to
Speaker 2: live my life like that.
Speaker 1: I want to go to an arctics research station and
Speaker 1: roller skate round with.
Speaker 2: A I want to get around that way from now on.
Speaker 2: I want to get a sweatband, roller skates and just
Speaker 2: be like, hey listen, Stevie Wonder. Yeah, okay, he was
Speaker 2: my favorite.
Speaker 1: Do you know that? So they get into that scene,
Speaker 1: they get into that scene. I've got to say that
Speaker 1: you said, oh, he was my favorite. I'm just going
Speaker 1: to describe the worst scene that always makes I have
Speaker 1: to look away, And I don't know why. I just
Speaker 1: have to look away all the time every time I
Speaker 1: watch it.
Speaker 2: The blood say or what about to know?
Speaker 1: It's when he's like, you know, so that that they
Speaker 1: find those overall things don't they So they all think
Speaker 1: McCready's one of the things, so they locked the doors.
Speaker 2: McCready's stuck out really explored, is it No, have I
Speaker 2: imagined or did?
Speaker 1: No? No, it's it's never really explained. But it's again,
Speaker 1: it's one of those things that's left out there. There's
Speaker 1: an entire community of people online that go through how
Speaker 1: the thing went around, went through the people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but there's loads of conspiracies. But is cat
Speaker 2: Russell isn't an alien?
Speaker 1: Is he?
Speaker 2: Like he's I mean he's not an alien, but I.
Speaker 1: Mean he's he still looks good for his age, so
Speaker 1: he could there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like you know, is it a given that
Speaker 2: he's not.
Speaker 1: I don't think he is after that blood test, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you don't see him being attacked by anything after that.
Speaker 2: No, that's true.
Speaker 1: So they're all in the wreck Yeah. So they're all
Speaker 1: in the wreck room and you know, Kurt Russell's in
Speaker 1: their ice over his beard. He's freezing, he's got he's
Speaker 1: got like you know, he's trying to do that. You
Speaker 1: get his hands working again because he's been free you know,
Speaker 1: they've they locked him out. So he gets in and
Speaker 1: then says, right, we're going to we're going to do
Speaker 1: a little test. We're going to see who's who someone
Speaker 1: and hearing who they say they are and all this
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, and they're all He ties them all down,
Speaker 1: doesn't He gets windows up with him, gives him a
Speaker 1: flying front.
Speaker 2: There's that great line, isn't there about being tied to
Speaker 2: the safe for the rest of his life. You can
Speaker 2: probably do it better than me. Yeah, there's a fucking couch.
Speaker 2: That's the one.
Speaker 1: It's the scalpel of it where they stick it in
Speaker 1: their thumb and cut.
Speaker 2: Ah. Yeah, I didn't bother me and my woman. Blood doesn't.
Speaker 1: Blood doesn't bother me. I can watch arms and legs.
Speaker 1: But he hacked off. But anybody does anything with eyeballs
Speaker 1: or you get a scalpel and they're giving did you
Speaker 1: see wind goes? How far he pushes that scalpel into it?
Speaker 2: He does? It was a bit excessive.
Speaker 1: It's like, what are you trying to do? Man? Cut
Speaker 1: your thought off. He's only asked for a bloody I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what. He'd be fine at Tharoanos with that
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Holmes, by giving her that much blood, you know,
Speaker 1: for the Yeah, thank god, she wouldn't be able to
Speaker 1: do anything else like that. But I love that saying
Speaker 1: absolutely love that scene where he's got it in that
Speaker 1: that that Petra dish and he said I said something.
Speaker 1: He says something to Gary does and you're the only
Speaker 1: one I could have got to the blood will do
Speaker 1: you last? And he sticks the copper in.
Speaker 2: And attention, attention. Yeah, it's spectacular.
Speaker 1: He's up the corner trying to get the flame thrower
Speaker 1: working because it's it starts, you know, jamming and cocking up,
Speaker 1: whereas Windows is there just literally staring at this thing
Speaker 1: and he's, you know, torch it, torch it, get rid
Speaker 1: of it, and he ends up biting the dust.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't saying I was a bit shot
Speaker 2: by was when mccreedy just shoots Clark. Yeah, but I
Speaker 2: know he thinks he's an alien, doesn't he he thinks
Speaker 2: he's the thing.
Speaker 1: I think he thinks he's the thing. But I think
Speaker 1: he also.
Speaker 2: Pretty an't it? It didn't really expect that makes you
Speaker 2: a murderer? Yeah, exactly because his blood's okay, and Clark.
Speaker 1: Who's going to look after them dogs?
Speaker 2: I know, I mean he did look a bit odd.
Speaker 2: He did seem a bit odd that you do think
Speaker 2: that he's Yeah, you do, you're told not you, but
Speaker 2: actually a bit of a red herring.
Speaker 1: Ye her Actually when they find out that Blair has
Speaker 1: been gotten to somehow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so clever, isn't it. You just don't know who's
Speaker 2: who's who's who. But it's that again, it's that idea
Speaker 2: of mimics, you know, aside from demons, mimics. He scared
Speaker 2: me if we get story, you know, in about mimic
Speaker 2: or mimics or doppelgangers or I don't know. It just
Speaker 2: really frightens me that someone can just be someone else.
Speaker 2: Who are they? It's like, you don't scream.
Speaker 1: Was who was?
Speaker 2: Who was doing that? What was doing that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? What? What kind of Yeah, it.
Speaker 2: Really frightens me. Yeah, someone can just pretend to be
Speaker 2: someone you know, I love and trust and they're not
Speaker 2: gonna who you think they are. It's terrifying.
Speaker 1: And then you know you're are you know you you
Speaker 1: go down stairs the morning after and ask that person,
Speaker 1: do you remember getting out of bed last night? No? Yeah, okay, right, okay,
Speaker 1: really strange, but it was very it was it's very
Speaker 1: it was very interested that when when when Kurt Russill
Speaker 1: turned around and said to Gary. When Gary said about
Speaker 1: I can't remember who it was. You know, the guy
Speaker 1: that went out in his hands his fingers were really large,
Speaker 1: and he went out and he does that horrible scream
Speaker 1: and they poured them.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, the scream. The execute him, really, don't they.
Speaker 1: He's not he's not actually he's turning.
Speaker 2: He's consumed, like, yeah, is he actually just And that's horrible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have to execute him. They burn him.
Speaker 2: It's horrible. So in that way it's quite there's not killing, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, like cold blood killing. But yeah, also the
Speaker 2: sounds in that film, because even the thing sounds like
Speaker 2: it's in pain. It's horrible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he just listened to it.
Speaker 2: It's horrible.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And Kurt Lessol's great line when he throws the
Speaker 1: dynamite at it. Yeah, fuck you too.
Speaker 2: It's a bit crap, col I like he could just
Speaker 2: I don't know. That made me laugh. Actually, you know,
Speaker 2: it's like a little kid or something. I'll fuck you know.
Speaker 2: It's just I thought it might just be a bit
Speaker 2: more of a lie. I don't know, it just it
Speaker 2: just made me maybe laugh a little bit.
Speaker 1: Bay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that kind of sort of iconic line. But
Speaker 2: it just sort of reminds me of a kid riding
Speaker 2: on his bike.
Speaker 1: Into ruined violusion.
Speaker 2: It just it's funny but really endearing as well, because
Speaker 2: actually that is probably how anyone would respond.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably, So do you know about the new version
Speaker 1: of the thing?
Speaker 2: No, I don't educate me, right, Okay, I can't remember
Speaker 2: what year it was made.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking maybe twenty Let me have a quick look,
Speaker 1: because I do think it needs to be just quickly
Speaker 1: talked about and explored a little bit, okay, because at
Speaker 1: the time it was it was so exciting when this
Speaker 1: started to go into pre production. Where are we? So
Speaker 1: it was made in twenty eleven. And you know Mary
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Winstead, she's married to you and McGregor.
Speaker 2: I guess yes, I'm going to look her up. She French,
Speaker 2: She is French.
Speaker 1: Rather she she's in that movie. What's his name as well?
Speaker 1: Joel Oh blimey. I can't remember his second name. He's
Speaker 1: quite a quite a famous actor. He's in it as well.
Speaker 1: So what they decided when this, when this came out, well,
Speaker 1: when when it was going into pre production and you know,
Speaker 1: there was stirrings around of you know, there's another edition
Speaker 1: of the thing coming out again. I was thinking, Jesus,
Speaker 1: I just hope they don't ruin the original if they're
Speaker 1: going to remake it. Then it turned out, and then
Speaker 1: it turned out they weren't going to remake it. What
Speaker 1: they were going to do, they were going to do
Speaker 1: a prequel, right, So then we're going to show you
Speaker 1: what happened in Norwegian camp.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they did. Is that what they mean?
Speaker 1: And that's what they do. So it starts off with her.
Speaker 1: I think she's in America and she's obviously a scientist
Speaker 1: and as a report that something has been found in
Speaker 1: the ice in that location, and they want I can't
Speaker 1: remember what she does, but they want her. They want
Speaker 1: her to be part of this expedition. They've they've set
Speaker 1: up a camp up there. They're going to go up
Speaker 1: there and they're going to find out what this is.
Speaker 1: But it's been confirmed that it's not of this earth.
Speaker 1: And she's like, right, okay, and you know yeah, and
Speaker 1: they go to they go to that location and they
Speaker 1: they really do lovingly completely reset up that set as
Speaker 1: best they possibly can. They got John Carpenter in, they
Speaker 1: got some of the set builders in that were still alive.
Speaker 1: From the original. They try to get blueprints to recreate it,
Speaker 1: but they've done a really good job of, you know,
Speaker 1: of what it looked like when you saw it burnt
Speaker 1: to cinders when they went up in the helicopter to
Speaker 1: go and have a look. But it just you would
Speaker 1: need to watch it. You'd need to watch it because
Speaker 1: when that when yeah, when they made it, they said,
Speaker 1: it's you know, we're going to go back to practical effects.
Speaker 1: We're going to do this, We're going to do that,
Speaker 1: We're going to do yeah, and a lot of it
Speaker 1: was just CGI and it just it wasn't brilliant CGI.
Speaker 2: No, no.
Speaker 1: But what you can do is you could watch that
Speaker 1: twenty eleven one and that ends with the helicopter flying
Speaker 1: off into the distance, right.
Speaker 2: So it's like the start of the thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So when you said it's like the end of
Speaker 1: a movie at the start, it is exactly that.
Speaker 2: It just feels like it's something that just keeps happling
Speaker 2: and happening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And as the Norwegian one ends, the
Speaker 1: twenty eleven one ends and you see the helicopter, there's
Speaker 1: that dum dum.
Speaker 2: I love the soundtrack. I love the soundtrack. I just
Speaker 2: I just love all those John Carpenter soundtracks, you know, Like,
Speaker 2: I mean, he did Halloween, didn't he? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: do you know what I did? Unia did Slasher Film
Speaker 2: Uni and yeah. We used to watch seventies early eighties
Speaker 2: horror on a on a Tuesday evening, I think it was,
Speaker 2: and then i'd walk so you know Texas Chainsaw Massacre,
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, and then I would just I'd walk
Speaker 2: home in the dark, and it just felt like I
Speaker 2: was in a junk cut up into film. And yeah,
Speaker 2: I felt like the last Girl, Final Girl.
Speaker 1: Yeah. If there was a bloody guy stood at the
Speaker 1: end of a street in a boiler suit with a something,
Speaker 1: do you know who the mask is actually in Halloween? No,
Speaker 1: it's William Shatner. No, yeah, the mask Meyers wears, Yeah,
Speaker 1: is William Shatner. And they obviously painted the mask, but
Speaker 1: it's a mask of William Shatner.
Speaker 2: So it's a mask of William Shatner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah that Michael Meyers wears, you know,
Speaker 1: the mask that he that he's.
Speaker 2: Got right, Okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: It's William Shannon.
Speaker 2: Fantastic fact.
Speaker 1: So so people, if you're in a pub quiz and
Speaker 1: somebody comes out with it. What who was the mask
Speaker 1: modeled on that Michael Meyers wears in the Halloween movies.
Speaker 1: It's William Shanner. There you go, There you go. Yeah. Okay,
Speaker 1: So Marie, what did you like about the movie and
Speaker 1: would you recommend it?
Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, Yeah. I liked it because it was quite
Speaker 2: It was quite relatable in a way because they kind
Speaker 2: of they weren't heroes because if it they're doing, it
Speaker 2: just wasn't working. You have the blood. Yes, that was
Speaker 2: quite genius, you know. It was they were kind of
Speaker 2: failing at trying to get rid of this thing, and
Speaker 2: that's quite relatable. But I just I love the ending. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because like I said, I thought it was a bit
Speaker 2: rubbish at first, so that was that it. But I've
Speaker 2: been thinking about it for a couple of days now,
Speaker 2: and that to me is a sign of a brilliant
Speaker 2: film to make you think think, why do they do that?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's just going to go on. Yeah, life
Speaker 2: is a bit like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said it was very.
Speaker 2: Brave, Yeah, very brave. So I think how it was structured,
Speaker 2: the opening and the ending, and how they the thing
Speaker 2: got each of them grabbed, you know, one by one,
Speaker 2: and just the structure of it.
Speaker 1: It's brilliant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so thank you for making me.
Speaker 1: Watch it, no problem at all, and you would obviously
Speaker 1: recommend it. Mark's out of five stars.
Speaker 2: I'm going to give it five stars, Steve, because brilliant. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because I really did love it. I was thinking about
Speaker 2: it a lot, and there's just so much to it.
Speaker 2: And I don't know, I just I love sort of
Speaker 2: early eighties y vibes. And it's funny you said it
Speaker 2: came out the same time as Eating, so I have
Speaker 2: to always watch Eat at school when there was a
Speaker 2: rainy break or something. I wish i'd put the thing on.
Speaker 2: I don't know how that would have gone down there with.
Speaker 1: Bottles of green jelly.
Speaker 2: But I just yeah, down to the soundtrack, the sounds,
Speaker 2: the special effects. I wish we still live in that world,
Speaker 2: you know. I still wish they used it because it's
Speaker 2: so believable. It's so visceral and frightening, and like I said,
Speaker 2: it put me off my sausage casserole.
Speaker 1: So it did its job.
Speaker 2: It did its job. And one about you in a nutshell?
Speaker 2: Was it that you love about things? I know you've
Speaker 2: often talked to me about the thing and how it's
Speaker 2: your go to Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think everything about it. I think I
Speaker 1: watched it at the right time, the wrong time, but
Speaker 1: the right time. Yeah, And it just captivated me completely
Speaker 1: and utterly captivated me. I loved the story. I loved
Speaker 1: I really related to the actors in it. As you said,
Speaker 1: I think what I really loved as well, as they
Speaker 1: were all flawed, that all of them were flawed and
Speaker 1: all of them were making terrible mistakes, especially as you
Speaker 1: pointed out when Kurt Rossill shoots Clark and they find
Speaker 1: out after the blood test that he was human. Anyway,
Speaker 1: all of them have their flaws.
Speaker 2: We're also human, and that is how humans are when
Speaker 2: they're in a secluded location. Yeah, falls together. None of
Speaker 2: them are particularly like it, but either really, apart from
Speaker 2: the guy in the roll.
Speaker 1: Escapes, which is your new way of life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, that is how humans are.
Speaker 1: Yes, So we're going to do this again with another
Speaker 1: episode of Movie Haunts. But it's your turn to choose
Speaker 1: the movie that we have a watch of and review.
Speaker 1: So do you want to tell me now or are
Speaker 1: you going to have a think about it?
Speaker 2: Oh, it's definitely going to be and this is good
Speaker 2: for listeners if you were to listener before The Possession
Speaker 2: of Emily Rose.
Speaker 1: The Possession of Emily Rose.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think about that right that. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'll talk about it more in the episode obviously, but
Speaker 2: that is probably because of my Catholic routes. Okay, a
Speaker 2: little bit afraid of possession. And it actually stems from
Speaker 2: we used to have this priest because I went to
Speaker 2: a Catholic school. He'd come in when I was in
Speaker 2: that year eight, so I was about twelve or thirteen.
Speaker 2: He took us for our e lessons one term, but
Speaker 2: he didn't teach us ari. He just told us possession stories.
Speaker 2: It was brilliant, absolutely brilliant, but it obviously wrecked me,
Speaker 2: terrified me. And I think this movie brought all that back.
Speaker 2: I went to the cinema to watch it when it
Speaker 2: came out. Was it about twenty years ago now, and
Speaker 2: you know, I just couldn't couldn't sleep all that week.
Speaker 2: It really it's a true story. It's a it's a
Speaker 2: well you know, I don't know she was really possessed,
Speaker 2: but yeah, it's based on a true story. And yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what I'd like to do. Yeah, if you're up
Speaker 2: for that.
Speaker 1: I am definitely up for that. So we will get
Speaker 1: that on the cards. So it's going to be the.
Speaker 2: The what the I don't know where are we? I
Speaker 2: don't know what?
Speaker 1: Yeah, in March still, yeah, this is March. So this
Speaker 1: one's going to go out in April and then we
Speaker 1: will do the Emily Rose movie after that. Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: we're going to We're going to get a Yeah, We're
Speaker 1: going to do quite a few of them actually. So
Speaker 1: if you've got any suggestions of movies that you'd like
Speaker 1: us to review and have a watch out, even if
Speaker 1: they yea, even if they are crap and if there
Speaker 1: on you know they're you know, they're in the you know,
Speaker 1: the the waste paper basket of Amazon and they've got
Speaker 1: one and a half stars. You know, don't do it
Speaker 1: on purpose, but if you think that, you know what,
Speaker 1: it's a crap film. But it's good because it's crapes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but please nothing with Johnny Depping. That's my only. That's
Speaker 1: just my only, or Tom Cruise I've got Actually, it's
Speaker 1: something that I'm just going to quickly there the listeners
Speaker 1: won't get this at all, but I'm going to show you.
Speaker 1: I'm going to show you on camera because I quite
Speaker 1: like I quite lake Luky Lakey's, you know, but really
Speaker 1: bad Luky Lakey's. And my sister sent me this photo
Speaker 1: of a Luky Laky and this is Jane's nephew. This
Speaker 1: is Jane Jane's nephew in his eighties outfits. So this
Speaker 1: is for a fancy dress party. He thinks he's the
Speaker 1: spitting image of Tom Cruise. Her reaction, It's the best
Speaker 1: laugh I've had all week.
Speaker 2: I don't need to.
Speaker 1: Okay, that looks more like Tom Cruise. Okay, right here
Speaker 1: we go.
Speaker 2: It's all black. Ah wow wow. If it makes him happy.
Speaker 1: There you go, listeners. If it makes you happy, it
Speaker 1: can't be that bad as The Brilliant Show.
Speaker 2: With William Shaw.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, could they? Right? So, if you are going
Speaker 1: to watch this movie that we've reviewed, and you'd like
Speaker 1: to write a review of your own, then you can
Speaker 1: send it into the show and we'll probably read a
Speaker 1: bit of it out for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Also rate the movie out of one to five stars,
Speaker 1: which I will put a poll up so you can
Speaker 1: give it a rating and we will rate it ourselves.
Speaker 1: I'm still the only person to rate the MEDUCA Touch.
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's bothered with it. You know, it's
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight. It's quite terrible. But I quite like
Speaker 1: the Medusa Touch again. It's telekinesis, it's strange.
Speaker 2: It's it's interesting. Definitely sorry, See what would you rate
Speaker 2: it out of five?
Speaker 1: The thing five? Yeah, I just I love it. I
Speaker 1: absolutely love that movie. I really do love that movie.
Speaker 1: So the only stipulations for these movies are they have
Speaker 1: to be of a sci fi or a paranormal or supernatural.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, they have to be of that genre.
Speaker 2: That's fair enough. It's haunted, is.
Speaker 1: Right. So until next time, we'll bring this episode to
Speaker 1: a close. So have a lovely evening, Marie, and wish
Speaker 1: you all the best. Yes, So until the next time,
Speaker 1: stay and take care ye to see you soon, see
Speaker 1: you bye bye. Test some church trust to chustoms of
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