WEBVTT 1 00:00:13.080 --> 00:00:16.879 You are listening to video games to the max. Hello, 2 00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:23.320 and welcome to the promised Nintendo switch to Direct discussion. 3 00:00:23.399 --> 00:00:26.039 And it's such a big deal that we we are. 4 00:00:26.079 --> 00:00:33.759 We brought in mister Randy is Bill for this one exactly, 5 00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:38.520 and also Mark Morrison is here as well. I'm your host, 6 00:00:38.560 --> 00:00:41.320 Sean Garmer. As usual, we did do a regular episode 7 00:00:41.359 --> 00:00:44.399 since we were gone for the supposed to be two weeks, 8 00:00:44.399 --> 00:00:47.039 but it wound up being three weeks, so you could 9 00:00:47.079 --> 00:00:49.560 find that on YouTube or on the feeds as well. 10 00:00:50.159 --> 00:00:52.439 We talked all the news from this week and then 11 00:00:52.520 --> 00:00:54.039 kind of caught up on some of the big stuff 12 00:00:54.039 --> 00:00:58.799 that we missed. So yeah, for sure we will be 13 00:00:58.880 --> 00:01:04.599 talking all things Nintendo switch to on this abbreviated episode here. 14 00:01:05.640 --> 00:01:08.959 Hopefully all y'all watched that thing. If you haven't, I 15 00:01:08.959 --> 00:01:12.319 would definitely recommend going to see it. It's an hour 16 00:01:12.439 --> 00:01:16.040 worth your time. Even though some of the important information 17 00:01:16.280 --> 00:01:21.840 was left off all of the Yeah, that direct. I 18 00:01:21.879 --> 00:01:23.959 wonder it's because they didn't want to deliver any bad 19 00:01:24.079 --> 00:01:28.799 news at all. What did you guys say? Mark? What'd 20 00:01:28.840 --> 00:01:30.879 you think about the direct in general? 21 00:01:31.640 --> 00:01:33.799 I don't think it was particularly great, and I think 22 00:01:33.799 --> 00:01:35.120 that's kind of echoed with a lot of people on 23 00:01:35.120 --> 00:01:38.120 my Twitter feed, but this is it or you know, 24 00:01:38.920 --> 00:01:41.959 some stuff look good, but some of their stuff they 25 00:01:41.959 --> 00:01:45.840 introduced was like what, like, you're really doing this when 26 00:01:46.359 --> 00:01:48.879 other companies have tried and failed or don't care anymore. 27 00:01:49.560 --> 00:01:52.439 Yeah, it's it's also it was very interesting, like some 28 00:01:52.519 --> 00:01:55.959 of the games that we thought we're gonna the major 29 00:01:56.000 --> 00:01:58.359 one we thought was going to be here, right is 30 00:01:58.400 --> 00:02:03.040 not here. No three D Mario, and still we got 31 00:02:03.040 --> 00:02:05.760 a three D Donkey Kong, which kind of solidifies the whole. 32 00:02:05.920 --> 00:02:07.879 You know, they've really made a big deal about Donkey 33 00:02:07.959 --> 00:02:12.039 Kong this year with the him being added to the 34 00:02:12.159 --> 00:02:16.280 Nintendo Switch World and all that stuff. So I think 35 00:02:16.280 --> 00:02:17.960 that kind of makes sense in a. 36 00:02:17.919 --> 00:02:21.080 Way until they've had the Donkey Kong wrapped version two 37 00:02:21.080 --> 00:02:22.280 point Oh I'm that interested. 38 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:26.960 Well, I mean, what do you think, Randy, I guess 39 00:02:26.960 --> 00:02:28.879 of the of the whole thing in general? 40 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:30.840 I mean, I mean, honestly that we're going to get 41 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:33.319 into discussions about about the negatives that we're in there. 42 00:02:33.360 --> 00:02:37.080 But I'm more positive on it than Mark was. Yes, 43 00:02:37.439 --> 00:02:39.240 a lot of the stuff that they showed is not 44 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:42.439 stuff that I'm ever going to use and that's for 45 00:02:42.479 --> 00:02:44.199 the most part for the Internet people. But you have 46 00:02:44.240 --> 00:02:48.879 to remember the large base of people that played the Switch, 47 00:02:49.319 --> 00:02:51.400 most of them are not going to even watch that 48 00:02:51.599 --> 00:02:54.719 direct and they're going to absolutely love that that video 49 00:02:56.199 --> 00:02:59.919 set up and the chat functions and stuff. My sister 50 00:03:00.199 --> 00:03:04.000 is in town and she has three daughters, and I 51 00:03:04.039 --> 00:03:07.360 can guarantee you if we both end up with a 52 00:03:07.479 --> 00:03:10.560 switch to at some point, that's going to be a 53 00:03:10.599 --> 00:03:13.319 great way for them to stay in touch and communicate 54 00:03:13.439 --> 00:03:15.520 if it works like it did, and they're not gonna 55 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:17.199 worry about frame rate and they're not gonna worry about 56 00:03:17.199 --> 00:03:20.039 any of that, So that kind of stuff works great 57 00:03:20.159 --> 00:03:24.560 for the casual person. And again, I really think that 58 00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:27.360 they did a really good job of showing that hey, 59 00:03:27.400 --> 00:03:30.080 you know, third party companies actually want to work with 60 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:33.000 us again. And it turns out to be a pretty 61 00:03:33.039 --> 00:03:38.199 good launch lineup for them, mostly because of the third 62 00:03:38.199 --> 00:03:40.199 party games that are going to be on it. So 63 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:43.520 it's not a slam dunk, you know, Grand Slam kind 64 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:46.240 of a direct or a launch for the Switch too. 65 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:49.719 But all in all, I think they hit the key 66 00:03:49.759 --> 00:03:52.000 points that will get people excited, and as you said, 67 00:03:52.039 --> 00:03:56.039 they hit the stuff that will make people less excited overall. 68 00:03:56.039 --> 00:03:56.759 The directors fun. 69 00:03:57.039 --> 00:04:01.560 Yeah for me, I think you know, there wasn't the 70 00:04:01.560 --> 00:04:04.199 Fall Fancy Niner remake that I was hoping you would 71 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:08.319 get after they Jesus with the website. But on the 72 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:15.439 direct yeah, that Bravy Default First Fairy remaster. They knew 73 00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:16.279 what they were doing there. 74 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:20.040 Yes, you were not the only one that during. 75 00:04:19.879 --> 00:04:23.240 Yeah, I was like, I was good. I was happy 76 00:04:23.240 --> 00:04:25.560 to hear that Ben Hanson also thought the same thing. 77 00:04:26.319 --> 00:04:31.079 I was like, Okay, I wasn't the only one. But honestly, 78 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:34.959 it's I think the docor Kong game looks great as 79 00:04:35.000 --> 00:04:37.879 a being a Doc Kong fan, I was kind of 80 00:04:37.959 --> 00:04:40.279 happy to see that that he is going to get 81 00:04:40.279 --> 00:04:42.519 his own game and it looks really fun. He's just 82 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:45.720 going to destroy stuff, you know, and I don't think 83 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:49.720 you can go wrong with that at all. The some 84 00:04:49.879 --> 00:04:52.560 of the things that they showed with the the switch 85 00:04:52.639 --> 00:04:55.360 that are going to be like, you know, big features. 86 00:04:56.399 --> 00:04:59.879 I don't really care about the chat thing unless I 87 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:03.240 I'm happy to be using games Share, which with something 88 00:05:03.279 --> 00:05:05.759 that we talked about we're going to talk about we 89 00:05:05.879 --> 00:05:12.040 might be using a lot more of maybe. But it 90 00:05:12.199 --> 00:05:15.399 is interesting that intendo finally decided to like basically bring 91 00:05:15.399 --> 00:05:19.839 out their own version of Discord to have on your switch, 92 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:23.720 and then you can watch all your friends for at 93 00:05:23.759 --> 00:05:29.519 a time play other games also, which is interesting. 94 00:05:29.519 --> 00:05:32.879 In beautiful ten frames a second, well. 95 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:34.839 Ten frames a second exactly. 96 00:05:34.519 --> 00:05:35.519 That might be generous. 97 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:37.759 Let's let's yeah be honest here. 98 00:05:39.279 --> 00:05:42.120 Yeah, I wonder how bad that's gonna bug out for people, 99 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:46.399 or people are just gonna get knocked off constantly playing that, Yeah, 100 00:05:47.079 --> 00:05:51.160 because I imagine it's not going to run anywhere near 101 00:05:51.199 --> 00:05:53.120 as great as they're trying to say. 102 00:05:54.439 --> 00:05:54.839 Trailer. 103 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:59.199 So no, And honestly, was it mid Max that I 104 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:01.000 was watching that? I think we said that is like 105 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:03.600 give them kudos for not hiding the fact that those 106 00:06:04.160 --> 00:06:07.839 those other screens do not run at a fantastic frame rate. 107 00:06:07.879 --> 00:06:09.959 They didn't try to hide it or or fake the 108 00:06:10.079 --> 00:06:12.480 video like we've seen in a lot of other things. Hey, 109 00:06:12.519 --> 00:06:15.680 this is exactly what you're gonna get, so don't expect 110 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:16.319 anything else. 111 00:06:16.720 --> 00:06:19.639 Like sometimes it's gonna work, sometimes it might not work 112 00:06:19.680 --> 00:06:20.000 at all. 113 00:06:21.120 --> 00:06:24.399 Uh, it's a screenshot of what Sean is playing, and then. 114 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:26.639 You got you guys gonna per order that cameractly. 115 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:30.560 No, especially because you don't need it. You can hook 116 00:06:30.639 --> 00:06:33.279 up any USBC camera that you want to appear, so 117 00:06:33.319 --> 00:06:35.680 I could tell if I use the camera I'm using right. 118 00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:38.519 Now, what it won't have Nintendo Brandon. 119 00:06:40.079 --> 00:06:42.680 Okay, but I'm pretty sure that camera is not great. 120 00:06:43.120 --> 00:06:46.439 It's like the fact that they're even charging fifty bucks 121 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:49.920 for that. It's probably not what that cost, you know. 122 00:06:51.759 --> 00:06:54.079 But I mean, they did introduce that they're gonna have 123 00:06:54.160 --> 00:06:57.920 like the games share things, so you can technically share 124 00:06:58.680 --> 00:07:01.319 your games. I guess some to what you do already 125 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:02.360 mark on the PlayStation. 126 00:07:02.839 --> 00:07:05.639 So I'm just going to log in every fourteen days, right. 127 00:07:06.240 --> 00:07:08.800 Yeah you do, But I mean you can technically finish 128 00:07:08.839 --> 00:07:10.040 the game in that time. 129 00:07:10.279 --> 00:07:13.560 So I wondered if they will just rent it at 130 00:07:13.560 --> 00:07:14.120 this point. 131 00:07:14.319 --> 00:07:16.879 Yeah, which I feel like we're going to be doing 132 00:07:16.920 --> 00:07:18.879 a lot of because one of the things that they 133 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:21.639 I guess I should mention that the first thing they 134 00:07:21.639 --> 00:07:24.920 did not talk about is the price of the system, 135 00:07:24.959 --> 00:07:27.959 which is four hundred and forty nine dollars for the 136 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:31.079 base system. If you get to pack it with Mario 137 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:35.959 Kart World, it is five hundred dollars. If you buy 138 00:07:36.040 --> 00:07:40.959 Mario Kart World separately, it is eighty dollars digitally and 139 00:07:41.120 --> 00:07:45.639 ninety dollars physically. There will be other games like Doctygong 140 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:48.600 apparently is seventy dollars, So it's kind of the same 141 00:07:48.639 --> 00:07:51.399 thing they've already been doing, where some things will get 142 00:07:51.399 --> 00:07:54.319 the premium price of eighty and some will get the 143 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:57.879 not so premium I guess some seventy, which is still 144 00:07:57.920 --> 00:08:01.639 pretty high. How much stickers do you have now of 145 00:08:02.279 --> 00:08:03.639 this is what games are gonna cost. 146 00:08:04.040 --> 00:08:09.040 Scary, It's scary. It's more scary now that I can 147 00:08:09.079 --> 00:08:12.160 guarantee you it is almost locked that Grand Theft Auto 148 00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:15.279 six will be, especially after this direct It. 149 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:16.199 Won't be a hundred bucks. 150 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:19.079 I mean it might be eighty, but no, they're gonna 151 00:08:19.079 --> 00:08:21.199 go look what the car? What Mario could We're better 152 00:08:21.240 --> 00:08:21.720 than Mario. 153 00:08:22.439 --> 00:08:24.879 I wouldn't be surprised if there is some kind of 154 00:08:25.079 --> 00:08:27.720 the lux edition that's gonna cost one hundred dollars. 155 00:08:27.879 --> 00:08:30.480 Oh yeah, that'll be That'll be for sure. But I 156 00:08:30.560 --> 00:08:33.159 just mean will be seven years. 157 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:35.639 I don't yeah, I mean I definitely think g t 158 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:38.559 A six will will know you know, two K will 159 00:08:38.600 --> 00:08:42.200 definitely or sorry, take two will definitely go out there 160 00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:46.039 and charge at least eighty base for it now because 161 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:50.559 Nintendo has basically told you, yeah, it's cool, you could 162 00:08:50.559 --> 00:08:50.879 do that. 163 00:08:51.600 --> 00:08:55.360 I guess we should say if all of this goes 164 00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:57.799 flying off the shlves as we expect it to, then 165 00:08:58.360 --> 00:09:00.200 then they will. But if all of a sudden, like 166 00:09:00.279 --> 00:09:03.360 Nintendo is struggling to sell Mario Kart because it's eighty dollars, 167 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:07.159 then then maybe that'll little scare things we expect Mario 168 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:07.840 Kart to find. 169 00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:11.600 I Mario Kart and I and Mario carl Is gonna 170 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:12.639 have a problem with selling. 171 00:09:12.759 --> 00:09:13.639 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 172 00:09:14.159 --> 00:09:17.120 Yeah, they know what they're doing because they know that's 173 00:09:17.159 --> 00:09:19.919 the game that will sell and then he won't buy. 174 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:23.799 They may not buy another game, but they will buy that. 175 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:26.639 They know people are going to complain and complain and 176 00:09:26.679 --> 00:09:29.360 complain while they reached and grab their wallet and hand 177 00:09:29.399 --> 00:09:30.240 out that eighty. 178 00:09:29.960 --> 00:09:32.840 Buck or to just wait until like Christmas or like 179 00:09:32.919 --> 00:09:36.039 the you know, the Junior July sale and it's by crap, then. 180 00:09:36.360 --> 00:09:38.879 That's seventy goes on sale. 181 00:09:40.279 --> 00:09:42.360 I mean I bought I just bought Mario RPG for 182 00:09:42.440 --> 00:09:44.879 twenty bucks at Game Stop New. 183 00:09:45.279 --> 00:09:48.039 Right, But that's physical I'm talking about. If you buy 184 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:50.159 your stuff digital. It's never going still. 185 00:09:50.200 --> 00:09:52.600 They knocked off twenty bucks, so it's be forty I 186 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:56.120 mean currently, so I can done at sixty. 187 00:09:56.200 --> 00:09:59.080 Right, Yeah, they'll knock it down to yeah, sixty or 188 00:09:59.120 --> 00:10:01.840 seventy or be like, oh yeah, it's at the budget 189 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:06.200 price of sixty five dollars, like what they usually do. So, 190 00:10:06.440 --> 00:10:10.000 like their big sale is the game is forty five. Yeah, 191 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:15.879 and you should be happy about it, you know. So, yeah, 192 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:20.039 it is. It's obvious that this is why Donkey Kong 193 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:24.519 is not eighty. Right. They don't want to, you know, 194 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:27.759 cut that game off at the knees, right, So they 195 00:10:28.279 --> 00:10:31.440 chose Mario Kart because they know that that is the 196 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:34.759 highest selling game on the Switch one, and it's gonna 197 00:10:34.759 --> 00:10:37.639 be the packing title, so you can get it cheaper 198 00:10:37.720 --> 00:10:40.159 and then you can have your sticker shock later when 199 00:10:40.279 --> 00:10:44.519 we have the the three D, the actual new three 200 00:10:44.600 --> 00:10:46.240 D Mario or whatever. 201 00:10:47.799 --> 00:10:49.559 Are you guys going to get the pack in or not? 202 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:53.240 I feel like you have to no, right, Like, who 203 00:10:53.320 --> 00:10:55.240 doesn't want to save thirty bucks on that game? 204 00:10:55.679 --> 00:10:57.480 I mean that assumes you want the game, and I'm 205 00:10:57.559 --> 00:11:00.519 kind of indifferent towards it, you know it. 206 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:04.919 I mean I will say the game looks great, like, 207 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:07.720 I mean, I don't know about the free roaming stuff 208 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:08.440 right like that. 209 00:11:08.759 --> 00:11:11.080 That's the question is, like you can free Rome, and 210 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:14.200 my question is why is there anything to do. 211 00:11:14.639 --> 00:11:17.360 Or that there's going to be secrets that are showing 212 00:11:17.480 --> 00:11:19.240 costumes and stuff that you can get. I'm sure some 213 00:11:19.279 --> 00:11:22.279 of those are hidden. I'm sure they're getting characters that 214 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:24.240 are going to be throughout that whole world that you 215 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:25.360 can unline. 216 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:25.720 I hope. 217 00:11:25.799 --> 00:11:28.120 Yeah, yeah, No, I mean I think they know better, 218 00:11:28.360 --> 00:11:31.679 Like they know that they can't just make a barren, 219 00:11:32.080 --> 00:11:34.960 open world that has nothing for you to go find 220 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:38.480 when you're free roaming, like you know, they have to 221 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:41.799 provide you with reasons as to why you need to 222 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:44.159 go out there, aside fam just going to the next 223 00:11:44.480 --> 00:11:48.720 track right right, like uh, I mean for the Horizon 224 00:11:49.320 --> 00:11:51.720 five is out there to basically take all the notes 225 00:11:51.759 --> 00:11:54.399 from on why that game is successful. 226 00:11:54.720 --> 00:11:56.159 And I'm sure a lot of people will go into 227 00:11:56.200 --> 00:11:58.799 free Rome and make up their own races, come up 228 00:11:58.840 --> 00:12:01.360 with with goofy tracks with friends and stuff, so there's 229 00:12:01.399 --> 00:12:03.720 plenty of reasons for their different Yeah. 230 00:12:04.039 --> 00:12:06.720 I think it's a great thing because they can also 231 00:12:06.840 --> 00:12:10.120 add on to it. Yeah, right, Like, that's definitely something 232 00:12:10.159 --> 00:12:13.960 they could put DLC. It gives you more things to 233 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:17.200 do as they learn from what people go and do 234 00:12:17.279 --> 00:12:19.559 with the Free Road League and things like that. So 235 00:12:20.559 --> 00:12:24.039 like I think that that's a it's a I mean, 236 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:26.879 what else was there for them to do with Mario 237 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:28.440 Kart at this point? 238 00:12:31.000 --> 00:12:33.399 How could be really useful in Free Rome? 239 00:12:33.559 --> 00:12:35.720 So now that's true. 240 00:12:35.559 --> 00:12:38.639 That's this is the perfect game to bring it back. 241 00:12:39.240 --> 00:12:42.360 Yeah, I just I mean, what what do you guys 242 00:12:42.440 --> 00:12:45.039 think of the I guess you know with all these 243 00:12:45.399 --> 00:12:48.000 the features that they they kind of showed off with this, 244 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:50.559 which you could see obviously with some of these games. 245 00:12:51.080 --> 00:12:56.120 The screen is seven point nine inches, so almost eight inches. 246 00:12:56.799 --> 00:12:59.200 One hundred goes up to one hundred and twenty fps 247 00:12:59.559 --> 00:13:01.960 even in handheld, but it does drop down to seven 248 00:13:01.960 --> 00:13:04.320 to twenty if you do. But it does go to 249 00:13:04.360 --> 00:13:07.480 ten ADP sixty on handheld, and then obviously you can 250 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:09.840 go up to four K with the dock. It has 251 00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:13.240 a fan inside the dock that keeps the system cool. 252 00:13:14.080 --> 00:13:18.679 Uh So that kind of stuff probably needs it, Yeah 253 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:22.039 for sure. Uh, I mean I was happy with that. 254 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:24.120 Like I did not think that they would do the 255 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:28.440 ten eighty screen with sixty fps. So for me, that's 256 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:31.840 already they have justified at least the four hundred dollars. 257 00:13:32.360 --> 00:13:35.440 Yeah, I thought they speck wise. I thought they nailed 258 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:38.559 it as far as an upgrade, uh to the original switch. 259 00:13:38.600 --> 00:13:40.600 So that's exactly what you want to things to upgrade 260 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:43.679 and and and get better. It's it's not ever going 261 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:46.240 to be on par with where Microsoft and Tony is 262 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:48.840 at the moment, but yeah, I thought they they closed 263 00:13:48.879 --> 00:13:50.240 the gap with a lot of the stuff that they 264 00:13:50.559 --> 00:13:53.600 so very happy with what they did there. 265 00:13:54.120 --> 00:13:57.600 If you know the screen, Yeah, well that helps you 266 00:13:57.960 --> 00:13:59.679 that like, yeah, two three years. 267 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:02.399 You know, anybody that thought the old head was going 268 00:14:02.440 --> 00:14:05.600 to be a launch thing, as I understand that Nintendo 269 00:14:05.919 --> 00:14:09.279 has proven and proved thirty seven times in this direct 270 00:14:09.639 --> 00:14:13.240 that they are not afraid of making money. They know 271 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:15.480 what they're doing to get the money out of your pocket. 272 00:14:15.879 --> 00:14:18.480 Yeah, I mean they've done it for such a long 273 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:24.759 time where they do all these refreshes of console. You know, well, it's. 274 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:26.720 Creating a game to show you off all the new 275 00:14:26.759 --> 00:14:28.639 cool stuff for the switch, and it's kind of like 276 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:32.240 an instruction to everything on the switch too, And it's 277 00:14:32.600 --> 00:14:35.000 everyone that I watched went oh cool, it's their version 278 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:36.879 Astrobat and then they went, oh, yeah, you have to 279 00:14:36.879 --> 00:14:37.440 pay for it. 280 00:14:37.879 --> 00:14:38.679 Yeah that was cool. 281 00:14:38.960 --> 00:14:44.360 That was something else. Man, How are you going to 282 00:14:44.440 --> 00:14:47.519 introduce this welcome Tour game and then tell me that 283 00:14:47.639 --> 00:14:49.960 I got to pay for it? And I wouldn't be 284 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:52.559 surprised if they charged twenty bucks for it too. 285 00:14:53.000 --> 00:14:55.519 No, I'm only twenty. It's seventy or sixty. 286 00:14:55.759 --> 00:14:59.600 Come on, no, I mean what, there's nothing gamified about 287 00:14:59.639 --> 00:15:01.080 that game. It's literally just. 288 00:15:03.440 --> 00:15:05.159 What it was like many games in it in it 289 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:08.240 I'll be I'll be more. It'll be more funny when 290 00:15:08.279 --> 00:15:09.919 they introduce like the Ola Twitch and they have to 291 00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:12.000 like release a version two point zero of that. 292 00:15:12.039 --> 00:15:18.399 Thing, like yeah, hey, uh. The fact that Nintendo didn't 293 00:15:18.399 --> 00:15:21.320 even do like a trailer, like they didn't even show 294 00:15:21.440 --> 00:15:24.039 like they have not put that into e trailer by 295 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:29.440 itself because they know it's Hey, at least we know 296 00:15:29.559 --> 00:15:32.600 that we got the game cube for Switch online, so 297 00:15:33.440 --> 00:15:33.919 you know it's. 298 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:35.600 A good improving. I mean, obviously it's only three games 299 00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:38.480 to start, but like all of the other ones, it 300 00:15:38.720 --> 00:15:41.480 just is a slow trickle stuff. 301 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:42.200 Yeah. 302 00:15:42.360 --> 00:15:45.519 I do have fun because I again, I rarely play 303 00:15:45.679 --> 00:15:48.879 my switch. My daughter plays mine mostly and my son 304 00:15:49.039 --> 00:15:51.840 does his own stuff with his. But I do have 305 00:15:51.879 --> 00:15:53.759 fun every like three or four months just getting on 306 00:15:53.919 --> 00:15:58.279 those virtual console lists and just seeing what was new. 307 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:00.399 It makes it feel like a lot has happen because 308 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:03.720 just because I only check every few every week or whatever. Yeah, 309 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:05.759 it's a It's another system that they can start throwing 310 00:16:05.840 --> 00:16:07.919 in there, and and in a couple of years hopefully 311 00:16:07.960 --> 00:16:09.320 we got a good collection of that. 312 00:16:09.639 --> 00:16:12.879 Are you disappointed that you're not getting the h TV 313 00:16:13.039 --> 00:16:15.240 masters now because they're doing this? 314 00:16:16.039 --> 00:16:20.919 Or I think what people it's what people you know remember, 315 00:16:21.519 --> 00:16:24.360 it's more in line with their memory of it. So sure, 316 00:16:24.919 --> 00:16:27.039 I'm p you can't just buy it outright? Or just 317 00:16:27.039 --> 00:16:29.240 can't you know, I want to buy TV radio. I 318 00:16:29.320 --> 00:16:31.200 just can't do it how you want. 319 00:16:32.120 --> 00:16:34.679 Yeah, I just don't. I don't understand what the big 320 00:16:34.720 --> 00:16:38.759 deal is with them of like, why can't you do 321 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:44.039 what somebody does with their PS classics right where they 322 00:16:44.080 --> 00:16:46.639 are available in the in the subscription, but you can 323 00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:50.799 also buy them separately. Yeah, I don't understand. Are you 324 00:16:50.919 --> 00:16:53.679 that worried that no one will subscribe to your thing 325 00:16:53.799 --> 00:16:56.840 if you let them buy the games outright? 326 00:16:57.039 --> 00:16:59.679 Like as we know, with any of these technologies or 327 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:03.600 description services or anything like that, Nintendo is ten years behind. 328 00:17:04.279 --> 00:17:06.759 So they have but they already had that with the 329 00:17:06.839 --> 00:17:09.839 virtual console. They literally just have to make that. 330 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:14.160 Yeah. At the moment that we went away, they went, oh, 331 00:17:14.240 --> 00:17:16.880 now you can buy them all again to be great. 332 00:17:16.880 --> 00:17:21.079 Everyone's gonna love it, and everyone went no, no, I 333 00:17:21.119 --> 00:17:21.680 did it once. 334 00:17:22.160 --> 00:17:24.480 Do you guys think the I should have mentioned this 335 00:17:24.519 --> 00:17:25.839 when I talk about the price. Do you got think 336 00:17:25.880 --> 00:17:26.680 the price is fair? 337 00:17:27.319 --> 00:17:27.519 Yeah? 338 00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:28.279 Four fifty. 339 00:17:29.039 --> 00:17:34.000 Yeah, I was predicting four were to be lower. Yeah, 340 00:17:34.039 --> 00:17:35.799 I predicted slightly lower, but I thought it was going 341 00:17:35.880 --> 00:17:39.279 to be like four fifties, not out of the realm thing. 342 00:17:39.400 --> 00:17:43.279 I think that is a suitable price, especially because with 343 00:17:43.359 --> 00:17:46.519 the Mario Kart being five hundred and like Mark was saying, 344 00:17:46.559 --> 00:17:48.640 most people are going to go for that one anyways, 345 00:17:48.680 --> 00:17:51.680 because they want Mario Kart five hundred with an eighty 346 00:17:51.720 --> 00:17:52.359 dollars game. 347 00:17:54.400 --> 00:17:57.640 I'm split. Like the console itself, the price is fine, 348 00:17:57.680 --> 00:17:59.240 but the game price that's the crazy thing. 349 00:17:59.480 --> 00:18:00.680 Yes, I agree. 350 00:18:01.039 --> 00:18:03.880 Yeah, for me, it's I don't really care about the 351 00:18:03.920 --> 00:18:06.759 price because that's a one time thing, and it being 352 00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:10.759 four fifty is still less than we paid for PlayStations 353 00:18:10.759 --> 00:18:14.000 and xboxes, you know, and they definitely have shown you 354 00:18:14.079 --> 00:18:16.839 that it was worth as far as like the specs 355 00:18:16.839 --> 00:18:19.279 of what the system could do, it is worth the upgrade, 356 00:18:19.599 --> 00:18:23.440 right if you're into that, as far as like getting 357 00:18:23.519 --> 00:18:27.480 your games in four K and and all that stuff, 358 00:18:27.839 --> 00:18:30.039 and then the fact that you're not, it doesn't look 359 00:18:30.079 --> 00:18:34.119 like there's gonna be. There's gonna be updates to several games, 360 00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:37.200 including like Pokemon's Call and Violet. I think Odyssey is 361 00:18:37.240 --> 00:18:41.759 getting an update. Even some smaller stuff like the game 362 00:18:41.799 --> 00:18:46.519 garage and whatnot, are getting like free updates that will 363 00:18:46.559 --> 00:18:50.319 like improve the game. But a lot of as we 364 00:18:50.359 --> 00:18:53.119 saw right brought the Volunteers of Kingdom. You have to 365 00:18:53.119 --> 00:18:55.400 buy a switch to edition with which they did not 366 00:18:55.519 --> 00:18:56.279 give you the price. 367 00:18:56.880 --> 00:18:57.599 Yeah, I'm so wad. 368 00:18:59.359 --> 00:19:01.519 Yeah, like what is the upgrade path? Are we talking 369 00:19:01.519 --> 00:19:06.240 about the ten dollars that you pay for on PlayStation side? 370 00:19:06.240 --> 00:19:08.440 Are we talking about more? Right? 371 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:13.319 I don't know. This cycle makes me think that like 372 00:19:13.359 --> 00:19:15.559 if a Wata was still alive, this thing would be lower, 373 00:19:16.039 --> 00:19:18.359 either the price of the splitch to would be lower 374 00:19:18.440 --> 00:19:20.240 or the game to be regular priced. 375 00:19:20.680 --> 00:19:23.079 I think that has more to do with the politics 376 00:19:23.559 --> 00:19:26.839 than it does them actually wanting to raise the price. 377 00:19:27.480 --> 00:19:31.079 I think it's them basically trying to avoid having to 378 00:19:31.119 --> 00:19:34.759 do a price increase later when you have already gotten 379 00:19:34.799 --> 00:19:37.759 accustomed to okay, this is what the games are going 380 00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:41.880 to do. Now you automatically know when you buy this system, Okay, 381 00:19:41.960 --> 00:19:45.359 be prepared. The games are more expensive now, so you 382 00:19:45.519 --> 00:19:48.559 know that going in instead of oh, it's been a 383 00:19:48.640 --> 00:19:51.480 year with this and now you're going to jump up 384 00:19:51.519 --> 00:19:52.759 the price to eighty like. 385 00:19:54.240 --> 00:19:57.079 But again I bring back the point that Nintendo is 386 00:19:57.599 --> 00:19:59.480 and this is not a knock or anything. It's more 387 00:19:59.559 --> 00:20:02.920 for actual fans, and that's why it sold a bajillion 388 00:20:03.160 --> 00:20:07.599 systems and stuff. So the fact that they did not 389 00:20:07.799 --> 00:20:10.279 put any of that information and we still don't know 390 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:13.200 how much the upgrades are going to cost, the fact 391 00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:17.599 that they hit that stuff into the internet where gamers 392 00:20:17.680 --> 00:20:20.559 like us that that scour stuff to get answers, and 393 00:20:20.599 --> 00:20:23.599 we watch other people that will will give us those answers. 394 00:20:23.759 --> 00:20:27.319 We know that Mario Kart's going to be eighty bucks. 395 00:20:27.519 --> 00:20:30.319 There are a lot of people like my brother in 396 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:35.359 law included, that watched that event and then went but 397 00:20:35.480 --> 00:20:37.640 how much is the switch and then I told him 398 00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:39.839 and then he asked, and I go, but you won't 399 00:20:39.839 --> 00:20:42.480 even believe what the game is going to cost you, 400 00:20:43.079 --> 00:20:44.960 and he was shocked by that. Again, they're not going 401 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:47.960