Speaker 1: Back on the Big One seven hundred WLW. It's twelve
Speaker 1: o eight. I'm Dan Carroll. One more day in for
Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham. So we rock and roll till three this afternoon.
Speaker 1: A lot going on with this show. In about a
Speaker 1: half an hour from now, I'll be talking to Sheriff
Speaker 1: Richard Jones of Butler County. I talked about him a
Speaker 1: little bit last week when he wasn't on the show
Speaker 1: and talked about the petition that is going on in
Speaker 1: Butler County right now to try to get Sheriff Jones
Speaker 1: to remove a sign from in front of his office.
Speaker 1: There's a sign out in front of the Butler County
Speaker 1: Sheriff's office that reads illegal aliens here, and some people
Speaker 1: in Butler County have their panties all in a wat
Speaker 1: about that. So we will talk to Richard Jones about
Speaker 1: that and some other items. And right now I don't
Speaker 1: know what those items will be, but it may have
Speaker 1: something to do with integration, So stick.
Speaker 2: Around for that.
Speaker 1: Speaking of immigration, we get an update on the border
Speaker 1: today from Todd Bensman of the Center for Immigration Studies,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot happening at the border. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's been so much news coming out of the White
Speaker 1: House and what Donald Trump has been doing, and.
Speaker 2: It's hard to keep up with it all.
Speaker 1: And what is happening at the border is that Mexico
Speaker 1: has sent ten thousand troops to the border. The cartels
Speaker 1: apparently do not like that. So we'll talk to Todd Bensman.
Speaker 1: I'll ask him about the possibility of the cartels frowning
Speaker 1: on the troops of Mexico being there at the border
Speaker 1: and what may happen as a result of that. And
Speaker 1: also I'm hearing a lot of stories about self deportation
Speaker 1: and things like that. So Todd Bensman, who there's no
Speaker 1: one better at covering the border than him. Bill Mlusion
Speaker 1: for Fox News does a great job too, But Todd
Speaker 1: Benson will be here in the one o'clock hour and
Speaker 1: then two of five. Daniel Greenfield, who is a great writer,
Speaker 1: had a website called front Page Magazine. We'll be here
Speaker 1: and uh he and then and then and this guy
Speaker 1: writes about so much. So one of the things he's
Speaker 1: written about recently and I mean today is there is, uh,
Speaker 1: I guess, an escalating war of words between Donald Trump
Speaker 1: and the Pope right now, and the Pope has said
Speaker 1: a lot of things in recent days aimed at Trump
Speaker 1: and the Trump administration, and the latest one today is
Speaker 1: that Pope Francis has issued a major rebuke against the
Speaker 1: Trump administration and their mass deportations. Well, well that was
Speaker 1: actually I'm looking at the wrong story. That was actually
Speaker 1: from or No, actually this is today. But not only
Speaker 1: is he upset about the deportations, he's also set upset
Speaker 1: about the USA.
Speaker 2: I D right, the U s A.
Speaker 3: I D.
Speaker 1: The organization that is paying for the transsexual surgeries, the
Speaker 1: organization that is paying for the LGBTQ operas, the organization
Speaker 1: that is paying for so much craziness like we have,
Speaker 1: like we've never seen before. And when I talked to
Speaker 1: brad Winstrop yesterday and I said, I said, did you
Speaker 1: have an idea? I think we've always had an idea
Speaker 1: that the government is spending ntold, untold amounts of money
Speaker 1: on things that the average person would find completely ridiculous.
Speaker 1: And brad Winsterp admitted that he had a sense that
Speaker 1: this was going on, but to the extent it's been
Speaker 1: uncovered and been published so far by the dot, No,
Speaker 1: you know, he didn't know. He didn't know, and neither
Speaker 1: did we. But the Vatican is talking about the US
Speaker 1: plan to gut us AID, and they're talking about I
Speaker 1: think they may have already done it, but they are
Speaker 1: cutting out. It turns out there are fourteen thousand employees
Speaker 1: of USAID and they're cutting that down to just under
Speaker 1: three hundred, which I think is a pretty good example
Speaker 1: on the face of it of the amount of fat
Speaker 1: and the amount of sluggishness that I mean, And really
Speaker 1: that's probably the most benign part of what was going
Speaker 1: on with USAID. But the Vatican's charity said that the
Speaker 1: plans to got UASAID were reckless and could kill millions.
Speaker 1: So this came from the point man of Pope Francis
Speaker 1: on this, and this is Cardinal Michael Zernie, a checkborn
Speaker 1: Canadian Jesuit, one of the cardinals most closely associated.
Speaker 2: With the Pope.
Speaker 1: He heads the Vatican Office for Responsible the Vatican Office
Speaker 1: that is responsible for migrants, the environment, and the Church's Internet,
Speaker 1: national charity and development. And he said that millions of
Speaker 1: people could die because well, now this decision to stop
Speaker 1: USA funding is reckless and we don't have a final
Speaker 1: dispensation on this yet. What is happening right now. Is
Speaker 1: I believe that all these spending items, all these different
Speaker 1: things that money is being spent on out of USA
Speaker 1: today or not USA today, but USAID, all these things
Speaker 1: are being evaluate and I don't think all of them
Speaker 1: are going to wind up going away. Marco Rubio, the
Speaker 1: Secretary of State, has taken over USAID, fired a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of people. It's going to bring it into the
Speaker 1: State Department. And then it doesn't mean that there is
Speaker 1: going to be an end to aid that America sends
Speaker 1: to other countries. It's just going to be done in
Speaker 1: a lot more fiscally responsible way. And isn't that what
Speaker 1: we want instead of throwing down and throwing away a
Speaker 1: few million here, a few hundred thousand there, like the
Speaker 1: number for the Fauci exhibit at the NIH Museum, which
Speaker 1: I believe was only one hundred and eighteen thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: But still, do taxpayers need to be on a hook
Speaker 1: for an exhibit that celebrates Anthony Fauci at the Museum
Speaker 1: of the National Institutes of Health.
Speaker 2: Do we really need that?
Speaker 1: I think reasonable people can look at that sort of
Speaker 1: thing and decide we don't need that. And so now
Speaker 1: you've got the Vatican, coming after Trump and the Trump
Speaker 1: administration telling them not to gut this organization, millions of
Speaker 1: people could die well. Daniel Greenfield writes in Front Page
Speaker 1: magazine that what they're really concerned about is the budget
Speaker 1: of Catholic relief and all these different organizations that operate
Speaker 1: under Catholic charities, these different NGOs, USA AID or USAID's
Speaker 1: apparently responsible for fifty to sixty percent of their budget.
Speaker 1: And I think that sheds an important light on this
Speaker 1: about why they're trying to tell Trump and the Trump
Speaker 1: administration about why this is so irresponsible. So you couple
Speaker 1: that with what the Pope said about the administration and
Speaker 1: this idea of mass deportation, and again, we're going to
Speaker 1: talk to you. I mean, it's I mean, you see
Speaker 1: how all these things are connected. But we're going to
Speaker 1: talk to the Center for Immigration Studies about this and
Speaker 1: Todd Bensman, and we're going to talk about these master portations.
Speaker 1: I probably asked Richard Jones about it too, because I
Speaker 1: know he's all in favor of it. But I find
Speaker 1: it rich that the Pope is the one who is
Speaker 1: talking about the deportations and how this hurts people's dignity.
Speaker 1: So here's what the Pope said. He said the Trump
Speaker 1: administration's mass deportations of migrants, that this is a major problem,
Speaker 1: warning at the program to forcefully the port people purely
Speaker 1: because of their illegal status deprives them of their inherent
Speaker 1: dignity and will end badly. Francis took the step of
Speaker 1: addressing the US microcatdown in a letter to the Bishops
Speaker 1: to US bishops who have criticized the expulsion as harming
Speaker 1: the most vulnerable history's first Latin American. Pope Is long
Speaker 1: made caring for migrants a priority of his pontificate, demanding
Speaker 1: the countries welcome, protect, promote, and integrate those fleeing conflicts, poverty,
Speaker 1: and climate disasters. So the Pope sits there at the
Speaker 1: Vatican and says that all these other countries need to
Speaker 1: do these things.
Speaker 2: So you would think that.
Speaker 1: Someone like the Pope might want to lead by example,
Speaker 1: you would think, and the article, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: all the of this reporting has been out there before
Speaker 1: about what goes on at the Vatican. And in case
Speaker 1: you haven't been brought up to speed on this, the Vatican,
Speaker 1: Vatican City, the best known as the spiritual and administrative
Speaker 1: heart of the Roman Catholic Church is a unique sovereign
Speaker 1: state governed by its own civil laws. Despite the small
Speaker 1: size and population, the city state is really seriously safeguarded
Speaker 1: from both physically and legally, under a set of stringent
Speaker 1: regulations that define its borders, citizenship, and residency. Encircled by
Speaker 1: the imposing Leo nine walls, the Vatican City's borders stretch
Speaker 1: approximately three point two kilometers, marking the boundary between the
Speaker 1: state and Italy. These walls date back to the ninth century.
Speaker 1: They rise up fourteen meters high, serve as a formidable
Speaker 1: defense of the world's smallest independent nation. The Vaticans military
Speaker 1: may be modest, but it's not without But it is
Speaker 1: not without defense. The Swiss Guard has one hundred and
Speaker 1: four soldiers. It is one of the smallest but most
Speaker 1: iconic armies in the world. Armed with modern fire firearms,
Speaker 1: these guards are responsible for protecting the Pope and the
Speaker 1: Vatican borders. Alongside them one hundred and thirty strong Vatican
Speaker 1: and international or internal security that maintain public order.
Speaker 2: Let's see Vatican citizenhip.
Speaker 1: Citizenship is a rare status, tightly controlled, highly coveted. According
Speaker 1: to official records, only six hundred eighteen individuals hold Vatican citizenship,
Speaker 1: making it the most exclusive in the world. Even fewer
Speaker 1: just sixty four possessed the state's official passport. The majority
Speaker 1: of the citizens do not reside within the Vatican walls,
Speaker 1: but are instead dispersed globally, often on diplomatic service. Only
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty four people actually live within the Vatican.
Speaker 1: In May of twenty three, Pope Fancs have proven a
Speaker 1: new fundamental law for Vatican City, reinforcing stript their strict
Speaker 1: criteria for citizenship and residency. The law stipulates Vatican citizens
Speaker 1: residing in the state and individuals whose roles are essential
Speaker 1: to the Vatican. Functions are granted under type conditions and
Speaker 1: can be revoked at any time. Marriage and family ties
Speaker 1: offer no guarantee for continued residency. The Vatican's approach to
Speaker 1: immigration and access is one of the strictest in Europe,
Speaker 1: reflecting its need to safeguard a small population, so they
Speaker 1: have very strict rules.
Speaker 2: A fourteen meter high wall around the Vatican.
Speaker 1: And the Pope sits there and wants to criticize Trump
Speaker 1: for trying to protect his country, for trying to protect
Speaker 1: his American citizens, do you think the Pope do you
Speaker 1: think the Pope hates people who want to get into
Speaker 1: the Vatican, maybe live there, maybe enjoy some of the
Speaker 1: largest that the attain has to offer. I don't think
Speaker 1: the Pope hates those people, but he's not going to
Speaker 1: let him in. They've got very very strict rules there.
Speaker 1: But yet when we want to instrict some or put
Speaker 1: on some strict rules ourselves, well, the Pope frowns on it.
Speaker 1: So the Pope and Trump are apparently not on good
Speaker 1: footing right now. And I'll talk to Daniel Greenfield about
Speaker 1: that in the two o'clock hour. And the thing is that,
Speaker 1: you know, the farther we get away from the Biden administration,
Speaker 1: the more we are finding out about what really went on.
Speaker 1: And one of the things, and how many times did
Speaker 1: we say this that Joe Biden was on a particular
Speaker 1: drug cocktail whenever he would have an appearance on television
Speaker 1: or he had to be lucid for an hour or
Speaker 1: an hour and a half.
Speaker 4: Or two hours.
Speaker 1: Well, now there is a Democrat donor that says Biden
Speaker 1: was doped up before campaign events. Former Democrat donor turned
Speaker 1: to mega supporter Lindy Lee dropped more details about Biden
Speaker 1: and her former party shenanigans during the twenty four election.
Speaker 1: Lee has been eager to spill on all things about
Speaker 1: the delusions that engulfed the Democrats to the point where
Speaker 1: some thought they could win Iowa. More than two billion
Speaker 1: dollars was raised and blown on Kamala Harris's campaign for
Speaker 1: the White House. After some expenditures were made public, some
Speaker 1: mega donors warned that they would never write a check again.
Speaker 1: Lee says that after Joe Biden's disastrous CNN debate that
Speaker 1: Hunter Biden commandeered the White House and sat in on
Speaker 1: sensitive meetings without a security clearance. That's who was basically
Speaker 1: running the show. Hunter Biden basically batten down the hatches
Speaker 1: and made sure his father would only receive intel pre approved.
Speaker 1: There's more. You remember how we joked that Biden was
Speaker 1: dropped or doped up for campaign events and that this
Speaker 1: was really Obama's third term. She says that it's all true.
Speaker 1: So this is this is you see and you've seen
Speaker 1: this gallon TV before. Lindi Lee major major Democrat bun
Speaker 1: lerned donor. So much money flowed through her and she
Speaker 1: was so upset after the way Kamala Harris treated the
Speaker 1: money that she was made available to or was made
Speaker 1: available to her, that she started dropping dime on the Democrats.
Speaker 1: So while we were joking that Joe Biden was getting
Speaker 1: drugged up before all these events, and there was a
Speaker 1: couple of events where they probably didn't have the right mix,
Speaker 1: didn't have the right cocktail, and how bad he looked
Speaker 1: and how poorly he performed, Well, it turns out now
Speaker 1: according to this major donor, Lindy Lee, that all this
Speaker 1: was going on and it was Hunter Biden who was
Speaker 1: running the White How many times did we sit here
Speaker 1: and ask who's running the White House, who's in charge,
Speaker 1: who's calling the shots? Well, we found out a couple
Speaker 1: of months ago that it was some junior staffers along
Speaker 1: with Hunter Biden, at least in the White House on
Speaker 1: the surface, behind the scenes, there are probably a few
Speaker 1: more hands involved that we still don't know all. I mean,
Speaker 1: we have our suspicions, but we may not yet know
Speaker 1: all the details of that. That is all yet to come.
Speaker 1: We got to get to a break. We got news
Speaker 1: coming up at the bottom of the hour, and then
Speaker 1: Sheriff Richard K. Jones will join us and we'll see
Speaker 1: what's on his mind as we roll on till three
Speaker 1: o'clock this afternoon. Dan Carroll for Bill Cunningham, seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: Back on the Big one nd WLW.
Speaker 1: Dan Carroll in for Bill Cunningham. Butler County Sheriff Richard
Speaker 1: Jones is standing by. We're going to get to him
Speaker 1: in just a second, but first I want to relate
Speaker 1: this bit of breaking news right here. The Department of
Speaker 1: Homeland Security is firing four staffers at FEMA, the Federal
Speaker 1: Emergency Management Administration or agency.
Speaker 2: Why why are they being fired?
Speaker 1: Well, we heard the breaking news yesterday that last week
Speaker 1: fifty nine million dollars was spent the how's illegal immigrants
Speaker 1: illegal aliens in New York City at luxury hotels. Well,
Speaker 1: the Trump administration and Christinome, the head of Department of
Speaker 1: Homeland Security, has responded, effective immediately, FEMA is terminating the
Speaker 1: employment of four individuals for circumventing leadership to unilaterally make
Speaker 1: egregious payments for luxury New York City hotels for it says,
Speaker 1: migrants here, but they're illegals. Firing includes the FEMA Chief
Speaker 1: Financial Officer, two program analysts, and a grant specialist under
Speaker 1: President Trump and Secretary of NOMES leadership Department of Homeland
Speaker 1: Security will not sit idly by and allow deep state
Speaker 1: activists to undermine the will and safety of the American people.
Speaker 1: And so that is what is happening right now. And
Speaker 1: Sheriff Jones, welcome again to seven hundred WLW. And so
Speaker 1: when we hear about fifty nine million dollars spent under
Speaker 1: the Trump administration the House illegals in New York City
Speaker 1: luxury hotels, and then one day later we find out
Speaker 1: that those individuals have been found out and they are fired.
Speaker 1: This is what the American people voted for. This is
Speaker 1: what the American people want. We do not want our
Speaker 1: taxpayer dollars wasted and thrown away like this. And when
Speaker 1: we find people who are doing it, we are holding
Speaker 1: them accountable.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, Sheriff lesson fifty nine or sixty million dollars.
Speaker 5: Those four people, there's probably more people than just them.
Speaker 5: Hopefully they had enough time to cancel the check. But listen,
Speaker 5: when people they talk about illegal migrants or migrants, these
Speaker 5: people aren't migrants, they're illegal aliens. A migrant is somebody
Speaker 5: that migrated to this country legally. When you are an
Speaker 5: illegal alien, which is the court terminology. You sneak into
Speaker 5: the country and steal from us, steal our taxpayer money,
Speaker 5: steal our system, gain the system, the school system. Everything. Well,
Speaker 5: it's it's a terrible tragedy. And this is just the beginning,
Speaker 5: my friend, sixty million dollars, and there should be more
Speaker 5: people President Trump is talking about. You know, when you
Speaker 5: look at the people in the South with FEMA and
Speaker 5: they still live in tents, their little shacks, and it's
Speaker 5: our whole country is upside down. And then when we
Speaker 5: go in to do these raids, it's leaked by people
Speaker 5: in the.
Speaker 6: Deep State, leak it and they're.
Speaker 5: Going to cause some some police officers and law enforcement
Speaker 5: to be be killed because of this type of actions.
Speaker 1: Well, Sarah, how long how long did we go in
Speaker 1: this country where we had behavior like this? Uh, simply
Speaker 1: excused or the you know, the head might have been
Speaker 1: turned the other way. And those individuals who did stuff
Speaker 1: like this, you know, enjoyed a long and prosperous career
Speaker 1: working for the United States government or maybe they got
Speaker 1: a medal, and certainly, you know, their retirement wasn't endangered
Speaker 1: in any sort of way.
Speaker 2: But for too long.
Speaker 1: We just excuse this sort of behavior and went and
Speaker 1: we know, went about things as it was, you know,
Speaker 1: like business as usual.
Speaker 5: Well said they should lose their retirement and if not,
Speaker 5: be criminally charged. There's more than four. This is just
Speaker 5: the beginning. The whole systems upside down, and we're President
Speaker 5: Trump's only been in there, what twenty one twenty two days,
Speaker 5: and they're trying. It's like he's been there for a year.
Speaker 5: They're making out. And these people in these organizations, these
Speaker 5: federal organizations like the USAID, there's ten thousand people working
Speaker 5: there for crying out louds. There's thirty thousand working the Pentagon.
Speaker 6: Think about that.
Speaker 5: Thirty thousand people were more working the Pentagon the building itself.
Speaker 6: I don't know where the hell they put them all.
Speaker 5: We got to do so much whack and the cutting
Speaker 5: the education system, and these people that are instilled place,
Speaker 5: they're going to be fired and rooted out, all of them.
Speaker 5: Start all over. Every president when they come in, they
Speaker 5: change people out. President Trump didn't do it the first time.
Speaker 5: He learned a lesson this time. Got to get them
Speaker 5: all out of there, start all over, and we got
Speaker 5: to work on our damn deficit. People don't pay attention
Speaker 5: to that, but you're looking at trillions and trillions of wasted,
Speaker 5: unlawful money and these other countries. We got to start
Speaker 5: paying off our gat. Listen, paying your dead off is
Speaker 5: not a bad thing.
Speaker 6: If you're in a household and.
Speaker 5: You have debt, paying your dead off is a good thing.
Speaker 5: I listened to one time they were talking, if everybody
Speaker 5: just paid a nickel more out of the tax doarf
Speaker 5: they just took a nickel out of what we already
Speaker 5: paying taxes from everybody, just a nickel already that we pay,
Speaker 5: we could have the deficit paid off. And like, uh,
Speaker 5: in like five years, wouldn't that be freaking great to
Speaker 5: be able to do that. This President's going to get
Speaker 5: that done. And I like Musk, I don't agree with
Speaker 5: everything he says or does, but I don't know of
Speaker 5: anything I don't agree with. Uh, Listen, go in there
Speaker 5: and cut and whack and get our country back. Build
Speaker 5: some bridges. Cincinnati needs a bridge, some highways. Ay, take
Speaker 5: care of our own people first. And these other countries
Speaker 5: that are just killing us and taking advantage year of Mexico, China,
Speaker 5: all of them, japaying Hey make them pay, We defy.
Speaker 6: All of them, we fight for all of them to die.
Speaker 5: It's time we take it back. And these people should
Speaker 5: be prosecuted if they can. And it's probably more.
Speaker 1: Than just them, you know, Sheriff Jones, I know you're
Speaker 1: not surprised. I'm certainly not surprised. I think people that
Speaker 1: listen to this radio station are not surprised when you
Speaker 1: see the reaction of this from the left and from
Speaker 1: Democrat politicians, you know, I mean they have barely when
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about Trump and Doze and Elon Musk,
Speaker 1: they have barely started scratching the surface on this, and
Speaker 1: already Democrats are having meltdowns. They're having condiptions. They're running
Speaker 1: to every nearest camera, every nearest microphone. They're calling for impeachment.
Speaker 1: They're talking about a constitutional crisis. They're finding friendly liberal
Speaker 1: judges to issue orders trying to shut down and stand
Speaker 1: in the way and to block the Trump administration from
Speaker 1: carrying out the duties that are specified in the Constitution
Speaker 1: and the duties that Donald Trump finds important. So I
Speaker 1: mean it is amazing. I mean, we are again barely
Speaker 1: scratching the surface, and then they and they are talking
Speaker 1: about they're already talking about impeachment for this guy.
Speaker 5: Listen, we got an attorney general that won't take any
Speaker 5: stuff off any of these people. We got the majority,
Speaker 5: and we got the federal courts, and we got judges.
Speaker 5: We got conservative judges. We just have to find another
Speaker 5: judge that will overturn what the liberal judge done. It's
Speaker 5: it's all part of the business. And Trump's gonna appoint
Speaker 5: more federal judges and we're gonna get through this twenty
Speaker 5: one days. And he's already found all this stupid, stupid ways.
Speaker 5: Imagine sesame street gay, sesame street couples or transgender. I
Speaker 5: can't keep track of all you do. How do you
Speaker 5: defend that? I mean, but I assume you do. They do,
Speaker 5: But listen to these other countries. They don't want that stuff.
Speaker 5: We're meddling in their business. And before it's over, President
Speaker 5: Trump going to have us out of that stupid war
Speaker 5: with Russia and UH and the stupid UH and and
Speaker 5: we're going to be out of the yet sending this
Speaker 5: money to these different countries and stealing our stuff, stealing
Speaker 5: our treasury, stealing pretty soon, if.
Speaker 6: They're not careful, we'll be fighting there.
Speaker 5: And Putin doesn't want this war no more than that
Speaker 5: Lewinsky guy.
Speaker 6: They all want out of this.
Speaker 5: Get them out of it. And the Israelis, we're gonna
Speaker 5: fix that deal. Uh. And Gaza they are torturing these prisoners.
Speaker 5: And it's time we just go in there and finish
Speaker 5: the job, get it done, and then be done with
Speaker 5: all this. The whole world's gonna be better to include Europe, China, Uh, India,
Speaker 5: Everybody's going to be better for it. But we just
Speaker 5: got to have our president. He needs the tools at
Speaker 5: his job. Oh, he's going to get it done. Uh.
Speaker 5: And we've got to get the FBI person approved. We've
Speaker 5: got to get Kennedy approved. We got who who doesn't
Speaker 5: want to eat healthier food? And how can you fight that?
Speaker 6: But when you look at all the money they.
Speaker 5: Received, Uh that Sanders guy, Uh, hey, well he gets
Speaker 5: more pharmaceutical money than anybody does. He does, and it's
Speaker 5: yeah he does, and he lies about it. But it's
Speaker 5: time to and the tide of change. The president was elected.
Speaker 5: Whether people that are listening don't like him, are liking
Speaker 5: and you can't defend whether they're spending this stupid money.
Speaker 5: Wait till they get into the Pentagon. They haven't passing
Speaker 5: all the years we can we can have more equipment
Speaker 5: and we can't.
Speaker 7: We can't.
Speaker 5: Let China build ships and tanks and we just sit
Speaker 5: back and do uh stuff on Uh. Hey, who who's
Speaker 5: woke enough in the military. It's but it's changing, my friend,
Speaker 5: and people have had the lick and today those four
Speaker 5: people should be fired and they should be prosecuted and
Speaker 5: there's more to come.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Uh, Sarah.
Speaker 1: You know I learned a long time ago doing this
Speaker 1: business that you're not going to please everybody.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 1: That is a lesson that you learned along time ago
Speaker 1: as well. And out front of your office up there
Speaker 1: in Butler County, there's a big yellow sign that reads
Speaker 1: illegal aliens here, and you've got an arrow pointing towards
Speaker 1: the door of the Sheriff's office. But apparently there's an
Speaker 1: individual in Butler County, guy by the name of Sam Hibberd,
Speaker 1: according to the Journal News, that doesn't like that sign
Speaker 1: being out there and has started a petition getting people
Speaker 1: to sign this petition trying to get you to take
Speaker 1: this sign down, the sign that reads illegal aliens here.
Speaker 1: How's the petition going? And I think they've got like
Speaker 1: four thousand signatures on that thing or something. Now, how's
Speaker 1: that issue going there in Butler County?
Speaker 5: Hey, I could care less what. I actually put it
Speaker 5: where they could go and sign it on my Twitter
Speaker 5: and my Facebook. I could care less. I hope they
Speaker 5: get forty million. I don't care. They're not my balls.
Speaker 5: The illegal alien is used in court, it's used in
Speaker 5: legal documents, and that's what the terminology is. And I
Speaker 5: don't care about the petitions, but I want people to
Speaker 5: have a fair shot. So I put it on my
Speaker 5: Twitter to where they could go and sign the petition
Speaker 5: to care less, And most of those people aren't from
Speaker 5: this county but from all over the United States and
Speaker 5: other countries. And don't care. I get elected by seventy
Speaker 5: five to eighty percent of the vote, so I might.
Speaker 5: And I've been on this illegal alien issue for twenty years.
Speaker 5: That sign's been up and down for twenty years, and
Speaker 5: it's going to continue to be up and down. So no,
Speaker 5: I don't care what they what they signed petitions for
Speaker 5: till I've signed petitions in my life myself, and most
Speaker 5: of the petitions I signed, the people that were receiving
Speaker 5: them didn't care either.
Speaker 1: So tell me a little bit about that sign, because
Speaker 1: according to what I'm reading here, I guess you had
Speaker 1: it up during the first Trump administration and then you
Speaker 1: actually took it down during the Biden administration.
Speaker 4: Is that right?
Speaker 5: That's correct. I had it up in two thousand and four. Also, hey,
Speaker 5: getting I'm in the process of getting a billboard put
Speaker 5: up in Butler County with that owner. I'm in their heads. Look,
Speaker 5: and they can't get me out of their heads. You
Speaker 5: know how much I think of that, Not at all.
Speaker 5: I'm deporting people and doing everything that I can to
Speaker 5: make my accounting safe and safer. And if that little
Speaker 5: sign tweaks a few people off, good for them. They
Speaker 5: don't like me anyway on a good day. And that
Speaker 5: sign's been up a long time, twenty years and I've
Speaker 5: been elected sheriff twenty two years.
Speaker 4: So what's that tell you?
Speaker 5: Doesn't affect me one iota, and it's going to continue.
Speaker 6: Wait till they see my billboard.
Speaker 1: I can't well, I can't wait to see it. That's
Speaker 1: going to be a thing of beauty. I'm going to
Speaker 1: be talking with Todd Bensman from the Center for Immigration
Speaker 1: Studies in the next half hour. Sheriff, and I wanted
Speaker 1: to ask you give me your take on the status
Speaker 1: of the deportation, the deportation exercise that is going on
Speaker 1: right now. And I know you're in close contact with
Speaker 1: Tom Homan. Are you satisfied with the pace of the
Speaker 1: deportations and the way they're going about carrying these things
Speaker 1: out right now?
Speaker 5: Oh? Absolutely, everything's changing. And Haley's only been president twenty
Speaker 5: one days, but to Homan's only been there twenty one days,
Speaker 5: has to change everything, had to fire everybody to the
Speaker 5: top of these organizations and then start getting in there
Speaker 5: and getting it done. They're working seven days a week,
Speaker 5: twenty four hires a day, and all of us we
Speaker 5: want it done. It's gone perfectly. And I was in
Speaker 5: DC last week mister Homans stated that they're going to
Speaker 5: start workplace enforcement. I can't wait till.
Speaker 6: They do that.
Speaker 5: And we all know companies that hire these people illegally
Speaker 5: and that they don't pay taxes, they don't have social
Speaker 5: Security numbers, or one of them will have the same
Speaker 5: social Security number as forty other people have. People. Hey,
Speaker 5: wait till they raid the first one company in Butler
Speaker 5: County or the person that employs them and they arrest them. Hey,
Speaker 5: it's gonna be a it's gonna be beautiful to watch.
Speaker 5: And all the rest of us that the people that
Speaker 5: work every day and can't get a fair wage because
Speaker 5: these people come in and work for free or half price.
Speaker 5: Then they get welfare, they don't have to pay taxes.
Speaker 5: They go to the grocery store, the people ringing their
Speaker 5: food up don't eat as good as the people with
Speaker 5: these the illegals bringing all these food stamps in.
Speaker 4: Hey.
Speaker 5: And then the illegals that are born in our hospitals
Speaker 5: for free, and then they get baby formula. And I've
Speaker 5: been told by people that work in the hospital that
Speaker 5: most of the people, the Latinos.
Speaker 6: Don't use baby formula.
Speaker 5: They breastfeed and they sell the baby formula in everything.
Speaker 5: People are telling me stuff. They're calling me on places
Speaker 5: of business that are hiring it leg and you can't
Speaker 5: work there unless you speak a foreign language. And the
Speaker 5: whole systems broke down. I'm very satisfied. Twenty one days,
Speaker 5: my friend.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of the components of this is that a lot
Speaker 1: of people are actually self deporting, that they are picking
Speaker 1: themselves up and heading heading south, heading for the border,
Speaker 1: because they would rather do that than go through the
Speaker 1: whole process of getting arrested and maybe being held and
Speaker 1: the rest of that. Are you seeing any of that
Speaker 1: in Butler County? People self deport.
Speaker 5: I've been told it's happy, and I encourage to self deport.
Speaker 5: If you get rounded up and arrested, you won't be
Speaker 5: able to come back for ten years. You need to
Speaker 5: go back now, get in line, go through the legal
Speaker 5: process that brings in.
Speaker 6: Two million a year legally every year.
Speaker 5: That's got to be revamped. We got over two hundred visas.
Speaker 5: Nobody knows what kind of visas they are. Imagine two
Speaker 5: hundred different kinds and colors and numbers, all out of control.
Speaker 5: If you're listening to their and you're here illegally, you
Speaker 5: need to pack up and go back before you get
Speaker 5: rounded up.
Speaker 4: Pretty simple, Kenny.
Speaker 1: So let's well, let's say let's say someone is listening
Speaker 1: to this right now and they are here illegally and
Speaker 1: they want to self deport. Can they walk into your
Speaker 1: office and say, how do I do that? What do
Speaker 1: I need to do?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: You know, is there anything you can assist me with
Speaker 1: if if I want to take myself out of the
Speaker 1: country illegally?
Speaker 5: I can try to get that taken care of. I
Speaker 5: can contact the ICE form. But what they need to
Speaker 5: do is pack up. You can go back across the
Speaker 5: border and get back into your country. And uh, they
Speaker 5: know how to do it. Uh. This isn't the first time. Hell,
Speaker 5: some of them have been arrested, sent back, arrested, sent back.
Speaker 5: I have won eight years eight times, then deported out
Speaker 5: of my jat eight times.
Speaker 2: That's lable eight.
Speaker 5: Times, and finally murdered somebody. Don't tell them how many
Speaker 5: have done that. But if you're listening to this and
Speaker 5: you know somebody, you need to self deport before you
Speaker 5: get arrested. Around it up and sent back and you
Speaker 5: won't be able to come back right away. It'll be
Speaker 5: years before you can come back.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, Sheriff, that's going to do it for
Speaker 1: our time. For today. We got to run during the break.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get online and sign the petition and have
Speaker 1: your sign taken down.
Speaker 5: I I hope you get.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, even though.
Speaker 1: I'm not from Butler County, I'll go ahead and sign
Speaker 1: the petition anyway.
Speaker 2: But Sheriff Jones, believe me.
Speaker 5: Hey, they're all sir from all over the world sign
Speaker 5: that petition.
Speaker 1: That's beautiful. Out of that is beautiful. Sheriff Jones again,
Speaker 1: thanks for the time. Always great having you on, my friend,
Speaker 1: and all the best to you. Take care and we'll
Speaker 1: do it again before too long. All right, there you go,
Speaker 1: the one and only Sheriff Richard K. Jones of Butler
Speaker 1: County twelve fifty five. Dan Carroll for Bill Cunningham on
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW. Seven hundred WLW Dan Carroll in Bill
Speaker 1: Cunningham And one of the things that I have talked
Speaker 1: about a lot and I am going to continue to
Speaker 1: talk about, is what is happening at the board and
Speaker 1: when it comes to the border. There is no one
Speaker 1: who has spent more time or written more about it,
Speaker 1: or really knows more about it than from the Center
Speaker 1: for Immigration Studies. Todd Benjman has been a great guest
Speaker 1: on this show and some other shows. Here on seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLW and Todd Bensman, it is great to have
Speaker 1: you back on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so great to be here. Thank you, Thank you
Speaker 4: very much.
Speaker 1: Give me a just give me a snapshot of today
Speaker 1: right now, what is happening along.
Speaker 2: The southern border of the United States.
Speaker 9: Sure, the numbers coming across are at a historic low. Now,
Speaker 9: we haven't seen numbers this low in maybe decades, somewhere
Speaker 9: in the four hundred a day crossing from one end
Speaker 9: to the border to the other, compared to you know,
Speaker 9: at the peak of this mass migration event, you know,
Speaker 9: we were looking at ten thousand a day and fourteen
Speaker 9: thousand a day, you know, eight nine thousand a day
Speaker 9: for years, So four hundred a day, and all of
Speaker 9: them that are being caught are being returned immediately to
Speaker 9: Mexico or they're sent to their home countries, so none
Speaker 9: of them are being released. So, you know, they said
Speaker 9: that all during the campaign. You probably heard, Wow, we
Speaker 9: need this big Senate bill, if only we had the
Speaker 9: Senate bill. Trump killed the Senate bill. We need comprehensive
Speaker 9: immigration reform. We have to do, you know, rebuild foreign nations,
Speaker 9: all of that. It's going to take years. Really, the
Speaker 9: whole thing just ended in about an hour with some
Speaker 9: policy changes.
Speaker 1: That is unbelievable. When you talk about the Trump policy
Speaker 1: at the border. I guess one of the big factors
Speaker 1: right now is that ten thousand Mexican troops are heading
Speaker 1: to the United States Mexican border are they there yet?
Speaker 1: Are they there now? And I've also been reading about
Speaker 1: the Mexican cartels are not going to take this line down.
Speaker 4: Yes, those are two different things.
Speaker 9: But the Mexican military is rolling out right now in
Speaker 9: Tijuana and Juarez and some places along the Arizona Mexico border,
Speaker 9: so they the deployments have started. But I'll point out
Speaker 9: that you know, in my opinion, that's added reinforcement.
Speaker 4: We'll take it. But the Trump.
Speaker 9: Policies alone of returns and expulsions and deportations was really
Speaker 9: enough to do it.
Speaker 4: But it doesn't hurt to have a.
Speaker 9: Bunch of Mexican troops plugging up the gap on their
Speaker 9: side because you know, if you don't keep your pedal
Speaker 9: to the metal, they will figure out a way in
Speaker 9: and start pouring in. So it's good to have the
Speaker 9: double lined, uh you know, containment policy down there. And
Speaker 9: as far as the Mexican cartels, you know, I did predict,
Speaker 9: I am predicting maybe some trouble. Definitely heightened possibility of
Speaker 9: trouble with the cartels because those troops are getting in
Speaker 9: between the cartels and the American border for their drug loads.
Speaker 9: Their mission officially, per Trump's deal with them is to
Speaker 9: dismantle those cartels and stop fentanyl and drug trafficking. So
Speaker 9: if they're actually going to do that, and remember there's tear,
Speaker 9: there's a teriff threat that Trump is holding over the
Speaker 9: Mexican's head, you know, a sort of domicles sort of thing,
Speaker 9: very damaging to the Mexican economy that if Trump doesn't
Speaker 9: like what he's seeing, if fentanyl's still coming across, he'll
Speaker 9: hit that tariff button in wreck the Mexican economy, probably
Speaker 9: send them quickly into a depression or recession anyway.
Speaker 4: So I think that the cartels are going to fight back.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's what they do. Yeah, So we'll see
Speaker 4: what happens. Yeah, Tod bears watching.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Todd, Benjamin.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, where so you're talking about
Speaker 1: for about four hundred a day now coming across are
Speaker 1: we talking about? Those are individuals coming across where there
Speaker 1: are not ports of entry or between ports of entry,
Speaker 1: and at the ports of entry where you can come
Speaker 1: into the United States, and and and if you have
Speaker 1: business here, you're coming into the country legally, you'll go
Speaker 1: through a port of entry. What is has anything at
Speaker 1: all changed at those ports of entry where you come
Speaker 1: into the country legally.
Speaker 9: It's mainly the illegal crossings between ports of entry that
Speaker 9: I'm talking about. Okay, the ports of entry is going
Speaker 9: to be kind of business as usual. I think there
Speaker 9: are not going to be a lot of asylum claimants
Speaker 9: coming across at the ports because we have remain in
Speaker 9: Mexico now, so we'll just turn you back and say, yeah,
Speaker 9: we'll take your asylum claim that you're going to have
Speaker 9: to wait in Mexico for five four or five years
Speaker 9: or whatever. And nobody wants to do that. They came
Speaker 9: to be released into the US on asylum claims, and
Speaker 9: if they can't do that, they're going home. So I'm
Speaker 9: going to guess that the number of those that are
Speaker 9: trying to cross at the ports are probably minuscule at best.
Speaker 4: The whole thing is pretty hermetically sealed. Now. It took
Speaker 4: all of about a day to do that.
Speaker 9: This was not you know, we didn't need comprehensive immigration reform.
Speaker 9: Climate change didn't suddenly stop, you know, corruption and horrible
Speaker 9: stuff didn't all of a sudden stop happening in all
Speaker 9: of those sending countries. It was just policy. We're going
Speaker 9: to detain you, We're going to expel you all. You're
Speaker 9: not getting in. We're going to stop all the releases.
Speaker 9: And once that word of that spreads all around through
Speaker 9: the world, they're like, why am I going to drop
Speaker 9: ten grand on smuggling for that?
Speaker 1: So I was reading a piece that you wrote last
Speaker 1: week about what's happening in Mexico, and you talk about
Speaker 1: Trump's blockade of the border has forced Mexico to support
Speaker 1: thousands of foreign migrants. So is this a situation where
Speaker 1: Mexico is now swelling with people who really don't have
Speaker 1: any business there or people who were trying to come
Speaker 1: to the border with hopes of getting into the United
Speaker 1: States there And how much of a problem does this
Speaker 1: create for Mexico now that they are going to be
Speaker 1: the ones instead of these people just passing through, but
Speaker 1: that now that they are in their country in Mexico.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Mexico got stuck with the hot potato, a terrible, big,
Speaker 9: expensive one. So there are nobody knows how many, but
Speaker 9: presumably there are hundreds of thousands of migrants that we're
Speaker 9: en route, hoping against hope that you know, they'd still
Speaker 9: be able to get over the border, you know, praying
Speaker 9: to God or whatever and just keeping their fingers crossed
Speaker 9: that maybe the American president, the new one, will change
Speaker 9: his mind about everything. So now Mexico is stuck with them,
Speaker 9: and that's a very expensive burden. They have to you know,
Speaker 9: care for them and find housing and shelter and you know,
Speaker 9: try to figure out how to deport them and manage
Speaker 9: their asylum claims.
Speaker 4: And a lot of them want to stay there.
Speaker 9: And hopes that something in a year or two, three
Speaker 9: years will change at the American border.
Speaker 4: So they're going to They're going to stay there.
Speaker 9: But you know, the Mexicans don't really want them to
Speaker 9: stay there, because no country wants that, except the United
Speaker 9: States during the Biden administration, but no normal country wants that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, doesn't Mexico have a pretty harsh policy when
Speaker 1: it comes to people crossing the Mexican border into Mexico illegally?
Speaker 1: Don't they frown on that in a pretty serious way.
Speaker 9: Well, they probably do now if they're coming up from Guatemala.
Speaker 9: But you know, as long as the people coming up
Speaker 9: from Guatemala were continuing to pass through to the United States,
Speaker 9: they were fine with taking a cut of the money
Speaker 9: that they spent on their way through. But now that
Speaker 9: they're stuck with them because they can't get through.
Speaker 4: They don't like it. Who does Nobody likes that.
Speaker 9: So but luckily for the Mexicans, it looks like those
Speaker 9: numbers are way down too, coming in through from South
Speaker 9: America through the Darien Gap into Panama, those numbers are
Speaker 9: down by ninety percent of what they were last year.
Speaker 9: People all over the world realized that the American border
Speaker 9: really is closed. They're gitting at live time on their
Speaker 9: cell phones from all their friends and relatives saying I
Speaker 9: just got expelled, I just got deported. I couldn't get through,
Speaker 9: I got detained, and immediately put back this isn't what
Speaker 9: I'm spending ten grand or twenty grand on. So they're
Speaker 9: staying home, and so the numbers coming into Mexico seemed
Speaker 9: to be way way down because of that. But Mexico's
Speaker 9: got to, you know, they've got to do something with
Speaker 9: the population that they got stuck with, just like the
Speaker 9: United States is trying to contend with the population of
Speaker 9: ten million that it just got stuck with over the
Speaker 9: last three or four years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I wanted to ask you about that where
Speaker 1: you talk about the Darien Gap and those numbers being
Speaker 1: down ninety percent if memory serves. In the last month
Speaker 1: and a half or two months of the Biden administration,
Speaker 1: the administration Kamala Harris, Joe Biden was trying to take
Speaker 1: credit for the numbers at the border falling off and
Speaker 1: the number of encounters, as they like to call it,
Speaker 1: coming down, and they were saying that because this Joe
Speaker 1: bid I get tough policy all of a sudden on
Speaker 1: the border was having an effect. Is that true that
Speaker 1: those numbers were coming down and were those numbers going
Speaker 1: to be any long lasting in any sort of way
Speaker 1: if the Biden policy would have stayed.
Speaker 9: That's a great question. A lot of it's complicated, A
Speaker 9: lot of Americans do not understand this, but it is true.
Speaker 9: The Biden administration did cut a deal with the Mexicans
Speaker 9: in December of twenty twenty three, with the onset of
Speaker 9: an American presidential campaign that was going to pitvot on
Speaker 9: this issue. They absolutely could not have thousands and thousands,
Speaker 9: tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands crossing the border during
Speaker 9: the year of the campaign. So they cut this deal,
Speaker 9: and the Mexicans played ball because they also wanted Biden
Speaker 9: to win.
Speaker 4: And then later Harris, so they kept it in place.
Speaker 9: They had a military operation called Operation Carousel that swept
Speaker 9: up all the immigrants on our northern border and forced
Speaker 9: them down into the southern provinces and contained them down there.
Speaker 9: I reported on it elaborately. I was with them, I
Speaker 9: was down there. I reported on it. The trick is
Speaker 9: that after the election they were going to give it
Speaker 9: up and say, all right, go on. Everybody moved through
Speaker 9: during the transition, and that's when Trump came and took
Speaker 9: over and said, twenty five percent tariffs if you let
Speaker 9: anybody through, and then fifty percent, and then one hundred percent.
Speaker 9: I will not the day on an office. I will
Speaker 9: put a massive tariff on Mexico if you get if
Speaker 9: you stop that operation. So he basically took it over,
Speaker 9: and since then the numbers had fallen by two thirds
Speaker 9: of what they were during the last couple of weeks
Speaker 9: of the Biden They were still coming in two three
Speaker 9: thousand a day. Even at that, they just weren't coming
Speaker 9: in at thirteen thousand a day like they were.
Speaker 4: Now they're down to four hundred.
Speaker 9: A day, five hundred a day tops, and they're probably
Speaker 9: going to drop even further. And by the way, the
Speaker 9: people that are coming across are running, dodging and hiding,
Speaker 9: not just turning themselves in like they used to by
Speaker 9: the tens of thousands to be processed in because we're
Speaker 9: not releasing them. We're catching and expelling, and nobody's paying
Speaker 9: money for that. That's not how it works.
Speaker 1: So on the other part of this, where Tom Home
Speaker 1: and his people are going around and finding those who
Speaker 1: are here illegally, arresting them and deporting them, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you've been keeping much of an eye on that,
Speaker 1: if you have any sense of how that operation is going.
Speaker 1: And then I guess the other component of that is
Speaker 1: the amount of people who are else deporting. I've heard
Speaker 1: a lot of talk about this, but I don't know
Speaker 1: that I've seen any real solid numbers on those who
Speaker 1: have decided to on their own sort of put their
Speaker 1: hands up and say, look, I'm not supposed to be here,
Speaker 1: I'm going to go ahead and head on out.
Speaker 9: So yes, the Trump administration, with Tom hoden Homan leading
Speaker 9: the charge, has begun rounding up the worst of the
Speaker 9: first or the first of the worst, I forget how
Speaker 9: he puts it, meaning criminal aliens, and there are plenty
Speaker 9: of them, there's about seven hundred thousand plus criminal aliens
Speaker 9: and I mean felons. Four hundred five hundred thousand of
Speaker 9: them are not in prison or jail right now.
Speaker 4: They're out, and.
Speaker 9: So the first roundups are of those politically acceptable, non
Speaker 9: controversial roundups.
Speaker 4: But they're also.
Speaker 9: Picking up a lot of people that are around those
Speaker 9: criminal aliens who are not criminals. And so far, I
Speaker 9: think the last number I saw was about eighteen thousand
Speaker 9: are gone of those in just the first few weeks.
Speaker 9: Now they want to ramp that up far to far
Speaker 9: higher numbers.
Speaker 4: Be patient.
Speaker 9: They don't have the capacity for detention right now. We've
Speaker 9: got to put them somewhere while you're processing them out
Speaker 9: and getting aircraft. So that's why they brought Guantanamo Bay online.
Speaker 9: They almost doubled the number of beds that they because
Speaker 9: the Biden administration had systematically dismantled a great many of
Speaker 9: the detention facilities there are, like, for example, none for
Speaker 9: women and children. So we have an infrastructure problem and
Speaker 9: they're working on that. So those numbers should start to
Speaker 9: climb every week. The numbers, total numbers should climb as
Speaker 9: ICE is out there with DEA helping and federal agents
Speaker 9: from all different uh DHS agencies working alongside them, and
Speaker 9: they're perfecting everything and trying to figure out how to
Speaker 9: find people in sanctuary cities. They need to up, they
Speaker 9: need to increase the numbers, they say, to get to
Speaker 9: mass deportation or anywhere near where Obama was during his term,
Speaker 9: which was like a million to two every year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's still a ton of work that needs
Speaker 1: to be done. And just because we're at a point
Speaker 1: now where it seems compared to what we had six
Speaker 1: months or a year ago, things have really quieted down
Speaker 1: as it relates to border crossings and people coming into
Speaker 1: the country illegally, that has quieted down. But that's, I
Speaker 1: guess said, nothing to hang your hat on at this
Speaker 1: point to say that we've we've cleared a major hurdle
Speaker 1: on this, or that we are at least we're taking
Speaker 1: a step towards the right direction. But it is indeed
Speaker 1: just the very first step, yes.
Speaker 9: Yes, to undo the damage of ten and eleven twelve million.
Speaker 9: Nobody really knows how many they let in, but there
Speaker 9: are millions and millions of immigrants that cross the border
Speaker 9: were let in on these very legally dubious parole programs
Speaker 9: where they were allowed to fly in. Those people are
Speaker 9: still on public welfare by and large, and it's just
Speaker 9: costing billions of dollars, so they want to and it's
Speaker 9: clogging up schools and criminal justice systems and really medical
Speaker 9: youth health systems and everything else.
Speaker 5: So.
Speaker 9: You know, and there's crimes being committed and all that.
Speaker 9: So you know, there's a lot of work to be
Speaker 9: done to reverse the damage of just the last three
Speaker 9: or four years.
Speaker 4: But I do.
Speaker 9: Believe that they are going to do everything they can
Speaker 9: throw every bit.
Speaker 4: They need money, they.
Speaker 9: Need infrastructure, they need personnel, and they need really good
Speaker 9: plans to go beyond Mexican criminal I mean, sorry, to
Speaker 9: go beyond criminal aliens to everybody else who's here illegally.
Speaker 4: They're all on the table. Nobody is safe, all.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, Todd Bensman, there are so many components, so
Speaker 1: many elements of this story. I really appreciate you taking
Speaker 1: the time as always to fill us in and let
Speaker 1: us know what's happening at the border. I'll continue to
Speaker 1: read all your dispatches on Center for Immigration Studies, and
Speaker 1: I encourage everyone else to do that as well. And
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna You're always in the belly of
Speaker 1: the beast there, my friend, So stay safe and we
Speaker 1: will talk to you again before too long.
Speaker 4: All right, thanks for having me, all right, all right.
Speaker 1: Todd Bensman from the Center for Immigration Studies on seven
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Speaker 1: And you heard during the news that the there are
Speaker 1: varying opinions on whether or not the judiciary can act
Speaker 1: to shut down President Trump in his official duties, and
Speaker 1: I am of the opinion that they are not. And
Speaker 1: I've talked to a lot of the illegal experts.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 1: Had I known that segment was not going to be
Speaker 1: here today, I would have had one of them on
Speaker 1: to talk about this. But the Federalist has written a
Speaker 1: really good piece on this and it's by Daniel John
Speaker 1: Daniel Davidson, and he writes about America. Is what's happening
Speaker 1: right now is that the Democrats, having been thrown out
Speaker 1: of power by American voters in a land slide victory
Speaker 1: for Trump, have decided that they are going to apply
Speaker 1: a deploy a widely used tactic from Trump's first term
Speaker 1: to toward the president's agenda. They're going to use the
Speaker 1: federal judiciary under the false pretexts that the lower federal
Speaker 1: courts are part of a coequal branch of government with
Speaker 1: the executive. They're aiming to shut down Trump's reform efforts
Speaker 1: with a fuselage of preliminary injunctions. So that's exactly what
Speaker 1: is happening right now. In recent days, dozens of lawsuits
Speaker 1: have been filed against the Trump administration by Democrat attorney
Speaker 1: generals in various left wing groups. These groups have carefully
Speaker 1: selected their venues, ensuring the lawsuits come before rapidly anti
Speaker 1: Trump activist judges. So far, the tactic seems to be working.
Speaker 1: As of this past weekend, eight different rulings from the
Speaker 1: federal bench have temporarily halted the president's executive orders. Federal
Speaker 1: judges and Democrat majority district have issued preliminary injunctions blocking
Speaker 1: Trump's executive actions to end birthright citizenship reform and downsize
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Speaker 1: Treasury Secretary and his deputies, from accessing payment data at
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Speaker 1: halting a Trump order that would have ensured federal inmates
Speaker 1: are housed according to biological sex, not transgender identity, and
Speaker 1: would have also prevented tax dollars from being used to
Speaker 1: pay for gender transitions for federal inmates. Another judge took
Speaker 1: the extraordinary step of ordering the administration to pay back
Speaker 1: every cent of federal funding that's been paused or canceled,
Speaker 1: and threatened anyone one who violates his order with criminal contempt.
Speaker 1: So these are the things that have happened with the
Speaker 1: left and Democrats running to federal judges and again friendly
Speaker 1: federal judges and getting all these different orders. And now
Speaker 1: they like to say because they are doing all this
Speaker 1: and all these orders are coming out that we are
Speaker 1: now facing a possible constitutional crisis. The problem with this
Speaker 1: is is that federal judges have no actual authority to
Speaker 1: do this. They can't decide on their own who the
Speaker 1: president can talk to, what data he can access. They
Speaker 1: cannot bind the president at all according to the US Constitution,
Speaker 1: their inferior courts and therefore don't have the authority over
Speaker 1: the executive branch. Yes, the three branches of federal government
Speaker 1: are coequal, but the only part of the judiciary that's
Speaker 1: equal to the presidency is the Supreme Court, not all
Speaker 1: these federal district courts scattered across the country. The Supreme
Speaker 1: Court is in and if I'm mistaken on this, you
Speaker 1: can you can call me on. But the Supreme Court
Speaker 1: is the only one that is called for in the Constitution.
Speaker 1: So we're going to find out how all this is
Speaker 1: going to play out. But all these injunctions and these
Speaker 1: federal judges getting in the way, you know, might look
Speaker 1: like they can have some effect on this, But in
Speaker 1: the long run, I don't think these things are going
Speaker 1: to stand. Let's see who's on the phone this afternoon,
Speaker 1: and let's go to Ross, who is in Portsmouth and
Speaker 1: Ross Smith seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: How's it going.
Speaker 5: Pretty good? I've been listening to you's all day and
Speaker 5: make some comments. All right, First off, what the news
Speaker 5: media and extreme I guess you're for the better term
Speaker 5: extreme left and the everything don't understand and what they
Speaker 5: want to push down our throats on this immigration, this
Speaker 5: illegal immigration. They don't want to call them illegal aliens,
Speaker 5: which is what they are. They want to call them
Speaker 5: migrants to suit their vocabulary, to try and make you
Speaker 5: think we're being mean to people when all countries, including ours,
Speaker 5: have up have laws set up how you can enter
Speaker 5: their countries. These countries don't want us going in theirs
Speaker 5: without following their laws, and we don't want them coming
Speaker 5: in ours without them following our laws. So you know,
Speaker 5: everything's pretty much clear and cut now. And these judges
Speaker 5: on these rulings of these judges, and I may be
Speaker 5: wrong on this, but I thought a judge's job is
Speaker 5: not to make law. The third job is to enforce
Speaker 5: the laws on the book, which whether you you're a
Speaker 5: Democrat or a Republican, whether you like the law or
Speaker 5: you don't like the law, your job is to enforce
Speaker 5: the laws that have been written by the lawmakers that
Speaker 5: they're not lawmakers. Their job is to enforce the laws
Speaker 5: when they come before them. And as far as the aid,
Speaker 5: the US AID goes, I think, you know, we've got
Speaker 5: a bunch of two year olds been throwing a bunch
Speaker 5: of fits and crying and screaming to get attention on this,
Speaker 5: and it's sort of pretty obvious. I think to the
Speaker 5: general public, even the Democrats should be aware. Why are
Speaker 5: they screaming, whining and crying on this stuff. It should
Speaker 5: be pretty obvious. I'm sure there's money coming back to
Speaker 5: them somewhere along the line, because you've got people that
Speaker 5: went into office that was just a common, average working man.
Speaker 5: Before they got into office, they wasn't millionaires, and they
Speaker 5: will become millionaires one hundred and seventy thousand dollars a
Speaker 5: year job.
Speaker 1: Well, Ross, I think you may a good point there,
Speaker 1: and I think that is what we are starting to
Speaker 1: get close to, or at least we're getting too close
Speaker 1: for comfort for a lot of these Democrats who are
Speaker 1: in office right now. When you talk about all the
Speaker 1: money that they have made and all this money that
Speaker 1: goes out the door, six point three million to study
Speaker 1: men having sex with other men in South Africa, sixteen
Speaker 1: point eight million to support equitable outcomes and inclusion in Vietnam,
Speaker 1: five point five million to promote LGBTQ causes in Uganda.
Speaker 1: So when we are spending money like that, there is
Speaker 1: a very good chance that some of that money is
Speaker 1: going to find its way back in the form of
Speaker 1: kickbacks into the pockets of those who who say such
Speaker 1: things are okay. And I think what is happening is
Speaker 1: that Elon Musk and the Doge is getting a little
Speaker 1: too close for comfort for a lot of these individuals,
Speaker 1: and that's why they're fighting and clawing and kicking and
Speaker 1: screaming the way that they are.
Speaker 6: Well, I agree with you on all of that.
Speaker 5: And something else is, you know, I don't have a
Speaker 5: problem with helping people that need and things like that,
Speaker 5: but I think there should be an accountability to where
Speaker 5: that money is going, how it is being spent, and
Speaker 5: every penny should be accounted for.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the one thing. Listening to the that's the
Speaker 1: one thing they do not what is accountability?
Speaker 2: That's a fact.
Speaker 6: Well, that's yeah.
Speaker 5: But I was watching the news one night and they
Speaker 5: was talking to the UK President and I believe they's
Speaker 5: talking about two hundred million dollars or maybe two hundred billion.
Speaker 6: But anyway, they.
Speaker 5: Asked him where this money had been spent. He flat
Speaker 5: out said on TV, I can only tell you where
Speaker 5: about half of that money's when I don't know where
Speaker 5: the rest of it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, yeah, he said, he said, there was
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of er. Yeah, I think And I
Speaker 1: remember seeing that report. I think the number was around
Speaker 1: seventy billion that never got to where it was supposed
Speaker 1: to go. So and look, I mean, and Ross, thank
Speaker 1: you very much for the phone call. Your phone's breaking
Speaker 1: up there a little bit, so we'll let you go.
Speaker 1: And look, I understand that a lot of the aid,
Speaker 1: a lot of what has been sent to Ukraine is
Speaker 1: money that gets spent with military contractors here in the
Speaker 1: United States and that and then so the resulting military weaponry,
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. If it's a vehicle, it's
Speaker 1: a missile, if it's a gun, that stuff winds up
Speaker 1: getting shipped over to Ukraine and it's used in the
Speaker 1: war effort. But there is also a component of this
Speaker 1: that is that is money that gets shipped over there,
Speaker 1: and we've seen the reports, and that's all, and that's
Speaker 1: all we asked for. At least I've asked for is
Speaker 1: from day one is to have an accounting on this
Speaker 1: and that has been the hardest part, is to get
Speaker 1: a legitimate accounting on this and find out how this
Speaker 1: money is being spent. Let's go to Columbus and we'll
Speaker 1: say hey to Kevin, Kevin, you're on seven hundred ww Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, it's really a shame that he wants to address
Speaker 3: the problems like the border and the reducing the government,
Speaker 3: and all he gets is resistance. We need to reduce
Speaker 3: the deficit, we need to do something about the border,
Speaker 3: and all they want.
Speaker 5: To do is.
Speaker 3: Talk about what they're in constitutional I don't know what
Speaker 3: they are interested in. Progressives are not interested in progress
Speaker 3: at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: They want to block him at every step of the way.
Speaker 1: And and when you look at you try to find
Speaker 1: out what the motivation for that is. And normally the
Speaker 1: motivation is their own self interest, their own political interest,
Speaker 1: and their own self.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: These problems Congress should be addressing, but they won't do anything.
Speaker 6: And that's the trouble.
Speaker 3: That's why they got to do the executive orders.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I mean, I heard, and I should
Speaker 1: I should have brought the sound bite with me. But
Speaker 1: Chris Coons was on one of the programs I think
Speaker 1: it was on cn over and over the weekend, and
Speaker 1: the issue of spending twenty million dollars to produce a
Speaker 1: version of Sesame Street in a Rock came up, and
Speaker 1: he actually sat there and justified the spending of twenty
Speaker 1: million dollars so kids in a Rock could watch Muppets
Speaker 1: and uh and and be indoctrinated into whatever the hell
Speaker 1: they're being indoctrinated into over in a Rock or Iran
Speaker 1: or wherever the hell this is. I mean, look, if their.
Speaker 10: Own muppets show up, they wanted that.
Speaker 3: Money. We don't have money. We're borrowing. It's crazy. Hey,
Speaker 3: I'll just hang up and hear what you got to
Speaker 3: say about that. We got to do something ab the deficit.
Speaker 1: N You're right, And look, I also understand there are
Speaker 1: those who want to make the argument that this is
Speaker 1: only one percent of the overall budget for America, and
Speaker 1: that's true. It is a very small portion of what
Speaker 1: we spend as as a nation in our annual budget.
Speaker 1: But we have to change the mindset on this that
Speaker 1: it's not okay to just throw away one and a
Speaker 1: half million dollars to advance diversity, equity and inclusion in
Speaker 1: serbian workplaces. I mean, I can't think of anyone who
Speaker 1: thinks that's a good idea. Eight million dollars for Sri
Speaker 1: Lankan journalists to avoid binary gender language. We need, you know,
Speaker 1: if we can stop there and realize that these things
Speaker 1: are not a good idea, then bigger things would be ahead.
Speaker 2: It is one fifty five.
Speaker 1: We got to get to a break, and then after
Speaker 1: the top of the hour we'll talk with Daniel Greenfield,
Speaker 1: a great writer and a great author. As we roll
Speaker 1: on till three this afternoon, Dan Carroll for Bill Cunningham,
Speaker 1: seven hundred WW back on the Big One, seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 1: It is two nine. I'm Dan Carroll. We rolled till
Speaker 1: three o'clock this afternoon, sitting in for the great American
Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham. Always my pleasure to be here, and I
Speaker 1: am glad you are here as well, and always glad
Speaker 1: to welcome in my next guest. Daniel Greenfield is a
Speaker 1: prolific writer for front Page Magazine, and he is also
Speaker 1: the author of a book, Domestic Enemies, The Founding Fathers
Speaker 1: Fight against the left and Daniel Greenfield, Welcome again to
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: It's been a little while. How are you.
Speaker 10: I'm doing great. Thank you so much for having me back.
Speaker 2: It's great to have you here.
Speaker 1: For a guy that writes as much as you do,
Speaker 1: and you write about and I want to talk about
Speaker 1: some of the things you've written recently. But what has
Speaker 1: it been like since January twentieth when Trump swore into office?
Speaker 1: Trying to keep up with all the daily news that
Speaker 1: comes out of this Trump White House. What's been like
Speaker 1: for a guy like you?
Speaker 10: That's been an absolute tornado. It's been a storm, but
Speaker 10: you know, we've had that on their Bindley. We've had
Speaker 10: a storm and a tornado of ladical legislation. Here, the
Speaker 10: wind has been blowing the other way. The wind used
Speaker 10: to be blowing to the left, it's now blowing to
Speaker 10: the right.
Speaker 2: It's blowing to the right.
Speaker 1: And I guess the reaction from the left is probably everything.
Speaker 1: I mean, it is so predictable what they are going
Speaker 1: to do, how they're going to react, the kind of
Speaker 1: things that they are going to try to do to
Speaker 1: to stand in Trump's way and keep him from doing
Speaker 1: what he wants.
Speaker 4: To do.
Speaker 10: We've seen that we were seeing a judicial cup really
Speaker 10: now being under way where federal judge is appointed by
Speaker 10: Barack Obama and Bill Clinton and Joe Biden are stepping
Speaker 10: in and saying, you don't actually have the right run
Speaker 10: a federal government just because you won a democratic collection. No,
Speaker 10: it's these judges of the rights run and it's the
Speaker 10: federal bureaucrats. It's their unions last year in charge of America.
Speaker 10: So we're seeing whe are you the primal conflict between
Speaker 10: who actually runs the country? Is it the voters or
Speaker 10: is it.
Speaker 2: The government well?
Speaker 1: Or is it these federal judges who can look at
Speaker 1: whatever it is that's brought before them and can really
Speaker 1: be activist judges on the bench and trying to tell
Speaker 1: the executive branch that they can't do the things that
Speaker 1: the people elected them to do. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if this is truly a constitutional crisis, but I think
Speaker 1: this is an issue that needs to be addressed once
Speaker 1: and for all. The current state that we are in,
Speaker 1: do you think that we will get to that point
Speaker 1: where this issue gets addressed in a meaningful way.
Speaker 10: I think the one step forward toward addressing it is
Speaker 10: for President Trump to do what everybody from Thomas Jeffersons
Speaker 10: Taber Lincoln did, which has questioned the idea of judicial supremacy,
Speaker 10: challenge the idea that federal judges have the right to
Speaker 10: review everything. At this point, you have federal judge stepping
Speaker 10: in and saying that the President Trump cannot remove political appointees,
Speaker 10: he cannot reconfigure agencies that were created by executive orders,
Speaker 10: he cannot overturn executive orders from previous administrations. And that
Speaker 10: means the country is not actually run by the president.
Speaker 10: There's no executive branch. There is only an executive judiciary,
Speaker 10: and that is fundamentally un American. Ointon rejected it, Jefferson
Speaker 10: rejected it, the founding fathers rejected it, and President Trump
Speaker 10: needs to go ahead and reject it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is an excellent point, because the executive branch
Speaker 1: is the president of the United States, and you know
Speaker 1: who is if they you know, all this business about
Speaker 1: being coequal, If the president has to acquiesce to the
Speaker 1: demands of the of these federal judges, then how is
Speaker 1: it that the executive has any power at all? So
Speaker 1: I think that it is a great way that you
Speaker 1: put that. Another issue that is percolating right now, is
Speaker 1: it seems that the Pope and President Trump are not
Speaker 1: on the same page. You've had the Pope criticizing the
Speaker 1: president's policy as it relates to getting illegals out of
Speaker 1: the country, as it relates to immigration, and he's also
Speaker 1: been criticizing the Trump White House as it relates to
Speaker 1: USAID and the money that goes out the door through
Speaker 1: that conduit. And it turns out that fifty to sixty
Speaker 1: percent of these Catholic charities, and I guess these Catholic
Speaker 1: mngos and all these other organizations that come under this
Speaker 1: Catholic Charities moniker get about fifty to sixty percent of
Speaker 1: their funding from USAID. So I guess it only makes
Speaker 1: sense that the Pope is saying, hey, you know, you
Speaker 1: need to restore all this funding.
Speaker 10: Absolutely, Castal Services, which is their international arm it's getting
Speaker 10: sixty percent of its funding in twenty twenty three from
Speaker 10: USA Catholic Charities, which handles a lot of the refugbsettlements
Speaker 10: in the United States.
Speaker 4: They're great work.
Speaker 10: Handle Glove obviously also funded by all these open borders
Speaker 10: policies that President Trump is throwing out. So the Vatican
Speaker 10: Pope Francis are obviously very determined to keep.
Speaker 4: This funding going.
Speaker 10: They want it, they want that money coming in. They're
Speaker 10: quite upset in their cookiness and the banner of religion.
Speaker 10: But really it's the American people saying we cannot stand
Speaker 10: open borders policies like these. And the interesting thing is
Speaker 10: that the heads of these various organizations are coming out
Speaker 10: and saying hope Francis is coming out and saying that
Speaker 10: maybe we disagree with some of the promotion of radical
Speaker 10: gender ideologies and other things that are being funded, but
Speaker 10: our priority is getting our organization funding. That's not a
Speaker 10: religious position, that's a economic position.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and where and where does the Pope come off
Speaker 1: trying to tell President Trump that he needs to check
Speaker 1: himself on his policies regarding illegals in this country, deportation,
Speaker 1: open borders, closed borders. I mean, when you look at
Speaker 1: the Vatican and you look at the security measures they
Speaker 1: have around there, a fourteen meters high wall, extremely strict
Speaker 1: limits on citizenship and who can come in, who can
Speaker 1: go out, and all the security that they have at
Speaker 1: the Vatican, how can the Pope sit there and be
Speaker 1: the head of a nation state or a city, a
Speaker 1: city state or a city nation, whatever the phrase is,
Speaker 1: and then on one hand and have all the security,
Speaker 1: and then on the other hand, sit there and tell
Speaker 1: the United States that we have to accommodate any illegal
Speaker 1: that wants to come into our country.
Speaker 10: That's a very good question. And the Pope has been saying.
Speaker 10: Pope Francis, who is really a radical up stuff with
Speaker 10: most American Catholics, has been doing these lectures also to
Speaker 10: the Europeans. But at the same time, yes, the Vatican
Speaker 10: is type security. You cannot just immigrate, migrate to the Vatican.
Speaker 10: So there's one position for the Vatican, which has a
Speaker 10: Swiss guard and all the security and all this firepower,
Speaker 10: and another position for American Canada, in Australian England and
Speaker 10: France and so on and so forth. And that's fundamentally hypocritical.
Speaker 2: Daniel Greenfield.
Speaker 1: The other thing I've been meaning to talk to you
Speaker 1: about is a few days ago when President Trump had
Speaker 1: his joint news conference with Benjamin Netanyahu, and he was
Speaker 1: he put out this notion that he wants to rebuild Gaza,
Speaker 1: that you know, the people who are refugees from there
Speaker 1: can live somewhere else for the time being, that he
Speaker 1: wants to, you know, have this notion of going in
Speaker 1: saying the United States would own it, we would go in,
Speaker 1: do the cleanup and rebuild back Gaza that is bigger
Speaker 1: and beautiful, more beautiful than anything that they have ever seen.
Speaker 1: And there has been so much criticism of that. But
Speaker 1: the one person who is not criticizing it is is Netanyahu,
Speaker 1: and he's talking about how President Trump is simply thinking
Speaker 1: outside the box, that he is not going to try
Speaker 1: the same things that have been tried over and over
Speaker 1: again in the Middle East and we keep getting the
Speaker 1: same result. So when you hear Trump talk about this,
Speaker 1: and then last night he talked about he wants the
Speaker 1: hostage is released by Saturday or the you know, he said,
Speaker 1: all hell is going to break loose. What are your
Speaker 1: thoughts on that approach to what's happening between there in
Speaker 1: Gaza with Israel.
Speaker 10: So Natanielle Sertly looked surprised at that press conference. I
Speaker 10: was surprised anybody was expecting that was definitely not it.
Speaker 10: But it's absolutely out of the box thinking.
Speaker 5: And if President.
Speaker 10: Trump actually wants to take on Gaza and remove the
Speaker 10: current population and make it an American territory, it's completely
Speaker 10: out of the box. But it's certainly very different than
Speaker 10: what every administration has done, which is in some version
Speaker 10: of you've got to create a terrorist take, you've got
Speaker 10: to create a terrorist take, you've got to create a
Speaker 10: terrrist state. And President Trump has come out and said,
Speaker 10: what if you get rid of the terrorist and make
Speaker 10: it an American territory. And that's certainly out of the box.
Speaker 10: It always deals with the central problem, which is that
Speaker 10: the place is populated by terrorists, and every free administration
Speaker 10: has argue that, well, you need to make nights with
Speaker 10: the terrorists, you need to give the terrorists the state.
Speaker 10: And President Trump is completely upended that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's brilliant.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, in your opinion, is this at least
Speaker 1: a starting point for a conversation about what happens next
Speaker 1: in the Middle East.
Speaker 10: It's definitely. In the past, the terrorists have been able
Speaker 10: to continue press rating for a maximum negotiators negotiations because
Speaker 10: they were able to comment and say, we're going to
Speaker 10: conduct terrorism n those who give us more and more
Speaker 10: and more. President Trump, for the first time, I said,
Speaker 10: we're going to take things off the table instead.
Speaker 1: As it relates to the hostages, this last group of
Speaker 1: hostages that was released, they were paraded around on the
Speaker 1: streets and used for the terrorist propaganda, and that did
Speaker 1: not sit well with Donald Trump. Now he is demanding
Speaker 1: that all the hostages, alive or dead, be released by
Speaker 1: Saturday at noon. How do you see that throwing down
Speaker 1: the gauntlet. How do you see that happening, and how
Speaker 1: do you see the response to that, and how do
Speaker 1: you see that possibly playing out by Saturday?
Speaker 2: That's twelve noon.
Speaker 10: So even before christ and Trump went ahead and said this,
Speaker 10: come said they were not releasing more hostages. It is
Speaker 10: really unclear how many living hostages they even have. Part
Speaker 10: of the Biden deal that's being played out now required
Speaker 10: Israel to release terrorists for the bodies of hostages. So
Speaker 10: it's possible that Comas doesn't even have more hostages. But
Speaker 10: either way, Prisident Trump has done what Joe Biden should
Speaker 10: have done on October eighth and made it very clear
Speaker 10: that America's position is we don't play games with terrists,
Speaker 10: we hold them accountable, we stand up to them.
Speaker 2: Where's that yahoo on this? What Trump said.
Speaker 10: Last night, he certainly this was exactly what he wanted,
Speaker 10: what Israel's wanted to hear from an American president reportedly
Speaker 10: there are preparations for military offensive. But you hear a
Speaker 10: lot of things and you don't know exactly where the
Speaker 10: truth lies. But it is very important for that to
Speaker 10: take that actual moral stance to say that you cannot
Speaker 10: just play this game. You cannot really a few hostages
Speaker 10: at a time, You cannot humiliate and pouring them around.
Speaker 10: We are actually putting our foot down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that was there is absolutely horrific. I
Speaker 1: think the way they've they've been behaving in light of
Speaker 1: the ceasefire that is going on is from as violating
Speaker 1: that ceasefire.
Speaker 10: As far as you know, they're certainly violating it, but
Speaker 10: that's fairy difficult. Terrorists who always violate the ceasefire. They
Speaker 10: haven't violated in a grand way by launching an attack,
Speaker 10: but they've done some small stuff as far as preparations
Speaker 10: for attacks. There's been an attempted border incursion, they're storing weapons,
Speaker 10: they're moving into areas where they're not supposed to be,
Speaker 10: And the plan for themabili last time is for them
Speaker 10: to rebuild, give them a year or two a lot
Speaker 10: of US taxpayer money, which is what would happened under
Speaker 10: Camala and then they launch another attack like they did
Speaker 10: on October seventh, before which there was a ceasefire.
Speaker 1: By the way, Yeah, do you find it do you
Speaker 1: find it rich that these groups that are funded through
Speaker 1: George Soros's uh you know, one or or more of
Speaker 1: his organizations are now crying foul that Donald Trump wants
Speaker 1: to put a freeze on money that was being spent
Speaker 1: through us A.
Speaker 2: I D unbelievable. How many billions is this guy?
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's it's most of their budgets.
Speaker 3: Really.
Speaker 10: One of the organizations now suing President Trump over the
Speaker 10: funding freeze, it's something called the Journalism Development Network, which
Speaker 10: is funded by Sorels. It's funded by the Force Foundation.
Speaker 10: Its material was actually used as a basis for President
Speaker 10: Trump's impeachment, and now they're suing and they're claiming that
Speaker 10: people will die unless we get money.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's I mean, it's it's just a simple
Speaker 1: matic of the kind of upside down world that we
Speaker 1: continue to live in. And I mean, you know, Trump's
Speaker 1: only been in office for I think twenty or twenty
Speaker 1: one days, twenty two days at this point, and it
Speaker 1: is absolutely amazing the sorts of things that have already
Speaker 1: taken place, Daniel. Before we run, I want to talk
Speaker 1: about your book, Domestic Enemies. The Founding Fathers fight against
Speaker 1: the Left has been all since April of last year.
Speaker 1: But how's the book doing? And give our listeners just
Speaker 1: a little thumbnail about what this book is about.
Speaker 10: This book, I call it the sixty to nineteen Projects
Speaker 10: for the American Left. Domestic Enemies tells the real truth
Speaker 10: about where the Left in America came from. And it
Speaker 10: shows that we've been fighting this fight back in the
Speaker 10: days of George Washington and the origins of the Constitution. The
Speaker 10: left was always here. They always had the same agenda,
Speaker 10: replacing the individual with the government, replacing God with government,
Speaker 10: and pushing equity over equality.
Speaker 1: And is it just a matter of how far how
Speaker 1: powerful they are? Is you know you have that that
Speaker 1: imaginary pendulum that sort of swings one way and then
Speaker 1: swings back the other way. Are we just on on
Speaker 1: that that swing to the right now to where they're
Speaker 1: having less power and throwing the conniption fits that they've
Speaker 1: been throwing over the last three weeks.
Speaker 10: That's exactly right. So goes by different names, they call
Speaker 10: themselves progressive Socialist, Bill bros. But they once we see
Speaker 10: that there everything that they do has failed miserably, they
Speaker 10: renamed themselves. They all go on to call themselves work
Speaker 10: for example, and they get reborn again. So the cycle
Speaker 10: does go back and forth. It's been going back and
Speaker 10: forth over two hundred years.
Speaker 1: All right, well, Daniel Greenfield, it is. I always love
Speaker 1: probing your mind and talking about all these different subjects.
Speaker 1: And I look at your writings just about every single
Speaker 1: day on Front Page Magazine and thank you for the
Speaker 1: work that you do. Thanks for being a guest here
Speaker 1: on the show, and keep up the good work, and
Speaker 1: we'll talk again before too long.
Speaker 10: Thank you for a great conversation for having me on.
Speaker 1: All right, there you go, the one and only Daniel
Speaker 1: Greenfield of Front Page Magazine.
Speaker 2: Check that out if you get a chance.
Speaker 1: Two twenty five, Dan Carroll for Bill Cunningham, seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 7: There has been thought, I believe given to this. Senator
Speaker 7: Ron Wyden has already issued statements, for example, advising what
Speaker 7: we should do in a situation like this, which I
Speaker 7: concur which is that I believe that the Biden administration
Speaker 7: should ignore this ruling. I think that we know the
Speaker 7: courts have the legitimacy, and they rely on the legitimacy
Speaker 7: of their rulings, and what they are currently doing is
Speaker 7: engaged in an unprecedented and dramatic erosion of the legitimacy
Speaker 7: of the courts. It is the justices themselves, through the
Speaker 7: deeply partisan and unfounded nature of these rulings, that are
Speaker 7: undermining their own forment.
Speaker 4: So what you're saying the Biden administration should ignored this court.
Speaker 4: But what does that look like? What does that actually mean?
Speaker 7: You know, I think the interesting thing when it comes
Speaker 7: to a ruling is that it relies on enforcement, and
Speaker 7: it is up to the Biden administration to enforce, to
Speaker 7: choose whether or not to enforce such a ruling.
Speaker 4: But is that Hello, Buyant, I'm broadcasting.
Speaker 2: Well Rock, you knew it was going to happen.
Speaker 1: The word snow was in the forecast and Seg said,
Speaker 1: I'll see you later. So I mean, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I've known SEG's, you know, going back to the nineteen eighties,
Speaker 1: and then the minute there's the word snow and you
Speaker 1: know around he's he's hunkering down there in Middletown.
Speaker 4: It's funny.
Speaker 8: He is loyal, he works hard, he does everything, but
Speaker 8: when it's snow that's his one bugaboo.
Speaker 1: I mean it was literally the only time he takes
Speaker 1: time on.
Speaker 2: I mean really seriously, exactly right.
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember when he was working here seven
Speaker 1: days a week and they and they made him take
Speaker 1: a day off. They made him take Sundays off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he hadn't had one in like a decade.
Speaker 1: So I think now he's, you know, taking weekends off.
Speaker 1: But I mean for so many years there he didn't
Speaker 1: take any days off. Then he finally took one day off,
Speaker 1: and I think, you know, after twenty something years, he's
Speaker 1: moved up to two days off.
Speaker 8: Maybe you should wish it snowed a little more. He
Speaker 8: might get a few more days days at home.
Speaker 1: So so Eddie was back in the studio yesterday. How's
Speaker 1: your boy looking a little little green around the gills?
Speaker 8: So you might know the story. So on Friday when
Speaker 8: he was out or no, shoot me, Thursday when he
Speaker 8: was out, Jason Williams was filling in and he had
Speaker 8: a story about how on a real cribbyan cruise that
Speaker 8: the whole boat had gone down with a sickness, Like
Speaker 8: one hundred and plus people were in the infirmary with
Speaker 8: flu and all this sort of thing, and I joked,
Speaker 8: I'm like, oh my god, what if that was the
Speaker 8: boat add he's on. Turned out it was the boat
Speaker 8: that he was on. So I texted him like, hey man,
Speaker 8: how you doing blah blah blah blah, and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 8: I'm fine, absolutely fine. So he came on the show
Speaker 8: and talked about it, and everyone else is puking their
Speaker 8: guts out. And now he claims, and I think he's
Speaker 8: probably right, he had too much gray goose flowing through
Speaker 8: his veins to get sick. They're just killing all the germs.
Speaker 8: Bo I had a buddy in college that drank a
Speaker 8: lot and he never got sick. Well, he said, I
Speaker 8: have too much tanga ray flowing through me to uh
Speaker 8: get sick. And maybe there's something to that.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's that you know back back in the
Speaker 1: Old West. You know, you see you watch those old
Speaker 1: Westerns and the guys walking into the saloon, what do
Speaker 1: they order whiskey? Boom whisked there because they know they're
Speaker 1: not going to drink the water. Yeah, speaking of a
Speaker 1: Western on the dusty trail, you can't be getting.
Speaker 8: Sick man, Speaking of Westerns. Do you have Netflix? Yes,
Speaker 8: we've seen that Prime Evil Serious. I liked it.
Speaker 1: Yes, I just finished last night we binge watched the
Speaker 1: whole thing and then and then my wife found another
Speaker 1: one that was on there called Godless.
Speaker 2: Have you seen that one?
Speaker 8: I not, but I will ill your recommendation.
Speaker 2: Follow write it, write it down, follow my recommendation.
Speaker 1: It is called Godless, and I think it's seven or
Speaker 1: eight episodes, so it doesn't take forever to watch. But yeah,
Speaker 1: those two American Prime Evil and Godless really really good.
Speaker 8: Good, Yeah, really good. I didn't know how and I
Speaker 8: don't know. I I want to check and see just
Speaker 8: how accurate or biased or whatever. But how Evil bring them?
Speaker 8: Young seemed to be.
Speaker 1: Well, I've seen more of the different Westerns out there
Speaker 1: that they talk about Brigham Young and guy was pretty ruthless, ruthless.
Speaker 2: He had to be character, that's right. It was a
Speaker 2: ruthless time and he was the head.
Speaker 8: I got to protect my people, and that comes to
Speaker 8: the expense of your people, so be it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's one of the things I liked about
Speaker 1: the shows is that they don't they don't sugarcoat know
Speaker 1: how bad it was out there with the Native Americans
Speaker 1: because I mean that look and when I got into
Speaker 1: this whole history thing with the Native Americans back when
Speaker 1: in my school district, the Anderson High School used to
Speaker 1: be the Redskins. You played against the Redskins when we
Speaker 1: went to say yeah, and then now they changed the
Speaker 1: name to the Raptors. But we got into this whole
Speaker 1: history thing talking about, you know, the Indians and the
Speaker 1: way they used to treat each other, and they'd raid
Speaker 1: each other's camps and they'd take slaves, and they'd steal
Speaker 1: the men and you know, kill the men and steal
Speaker 1: the women, make them the women and kids their slaves
Speaker 1: and all the rest of it. So, I mean, they
Speaker 1: were terrible times, that terrible thing that these people were
Speaker 1: doing to each other. So all this nonsense about, you know,
Speaker 1: and I think some of this is true about the
Speaker 1: way they treated the land and had respect for the
Speaker 1: animals they would hunt and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 1: But the other stuff is true too about how brutal
Speaker 1: they were to each other.
Speaker 8: There's a book out there called Empire of the Summer
Speaker 8: Moons about the Comanches. Read that, and those dudes were ruthless. Again,
Speaker 8: they were loyal to their people, and you happen to
Speaker 8: be in the way, You're gonna get out of the way.
Speaker 2: Right next time night next to Rockies. Rules on the books,
Speaker 2: on the book.
Speaker 8: So there you go. So that's how all civilizations have been.
Speaker 8: It's like, hey, I don't really trust you because I
Speaker 8: don't know you that well. So if if you get
Speaker 8: a little too close, we're gonna go at it.
Speaker 1: So the numbers are out for the super Bowl. Rock Ah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: did you see that? A record after we a whole week?
Speaker 1: Two weeks you said it, I said, everybody said.
Speaker 8: The super Bowl no one cares about. The super Bowl
Speaker 8: set a record twenty six million viewers.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, but if you look at me going
Speaker 1: into this game, two really great teams, I mean, if
Speaker 1: Philadelphia had been good so oh, you know, it's been
Speaker 1: so good all season long, and then you've got the
Speaker 1: specter of the Kansas City Chiefs possibly hitting that three repeat,
Speaker 1: and it looked like they had a damn good chance
Speaker 1: to do it going into this game, and of course
Speaker 1: they go out and get curb stump the way they Well, I.
Speaker 8: Think you're right in that there are some people that
Speaker 8: were tuning in hoping that the Chiefs would get it
Speaker 8: put on them, and they did. Yeah, you know, like people,
Speaker 8: you want to see the rietal war, the best team
Speaker 8: or the evil team go down. But I still think
Speaker 8: it's overall just a It just shows how powerful the
Speaker 8: NFL is and just how ubiquitous, ubiquitous it is, just
Speaker 8: how I mean, how it has just taken over America
Speaker 8: and modern sports and everything. I mean, people can't get
Speaker 8: enough of it.
Speaker 1: Well, and I think a lot of that has to
Speaker 1: do with the NFL slowly walking away from all the wokeness,
Speaker 1: all the you know, all this, all the the the
Speaker 1: social stuff that they were involved in, you know, all
Speaker 1: the virtue signaling, and I didn't see really any of
Speaker 1: that going on, especially during the Fox pregame. No, I
Speaker 1: can't tell you how many times I heard the phrase,
Speaker 1: especially when they were talking about New Orleans and how
Speaker 1: they were dealing with what happened on New Year's Day
Speaker 1: when the guy came driving through the French Quarter right
Speaker 1: running and killing all those people. I can't tell you
Speaker 1: how many times I heard the phrase that what unites
Speaker 1: us makes us strong. There was none of this diversity
Speaker 1: makes us stronger. I mean, they they that I didn't
Speaker 1: hear that phrase uttered the entire day.
Speaker 8: What what united?
Speaker 2: And I think that signal is a pretty significant.
Speaker 8: Shift, right, agreed, what unites us? We're all Americans and
Speaker 8: we're all football, so let's let's celebrate it. Yeah, I
Speaker 8: thought Fox you could tell they they really made an
Speaker 8: effort to stay away from all that, and I think
Speaker 8: it worked. I think it worked. I mean, even look
Speaker 8: at us point on yesterday, look at the commercials. Most
Speaker 8: of the commercials were went back to kind of what
Speaker 8: we were used to seeing a decade ago, where they
Speaker 8: were funny, a little bit kind of risk a, you know,
Speaker 8: the Carlos Junior back tohead, the kind of the supermodel.
Speaker 8: Looking all the commercials that went the route of funny.
Speaker 8: Everyone liked the commercials that went the few commercials that
Speaker 8: went the route of let's here, let me give you
Speaker 8: a message. Everyone's like, eh, forget it. Yeah, funny, funny works.
Speaker 2: Wis one? What's on? Which one was you? Did you
Speaker 2: have a favorite from Sunday?
Speaker 8: I thought that it was what was it? The Stellar
Speaker 8: atoil with the Matt Damon and that's the one, Beckham.
Speaker 2: I thought that I thought it was hilarious, it was good.
Speaker 2: I thought that was hilarious. People like when I do this,
Speaker 2: just kicks the ball a mile is the thing I do.
Speaker 8: I do.
Speaker 2: It's like a parlor trick, chick the football out of
Speaker 2: his face.
Speaker 8: But what was interesting, Dan? Back to the Super Bowl numbers.
Speaker 8: We're gonna talk about this today. Super Bowl numbers one
Speaker 8: hundred and twenty six million, record high. The College Football
Speaker 8: Final down there's twenty two million, down twelve percent from
Speaker 8: the week from the year before. Now, I still believe
Speaker 8: a lot of that had to do with the fact
Speaker 8: it was just a date MLK Day, It was a
Speaker 8: day of the inauguration. A lot of people are switching
Speaker 8: over trying to watch that, you know, the balls and
Speaker 8: all the hoop loss. I think that had something to
Speaker 8: do with it. But it still makes you wonder. I mean,
Speaker 8: what is it if the NFL in a game that
Speaker 8: supposedly no one was interested in, but a ton of
Speaker 8: people still watched. Why Ohio State Notre Dame despite some
Speaker 8: of the other difficulties going on with it, didn't more
Speaker 8: people not watch that game?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it would be a lot easier for the
Speaker 1: NCAA to move that championship game to a Saturday night.
Speaker 1: I think would be a much, a much bigger deal
Speaker 1: for them. And I was talking to a guy a
Speaker 1: week or so ago, and we were talking about the
Speaker 1: whole twelve team playoff, and I think really, for the
Speaker 1: first year I was interested in the playoff. I was
Speaker 1: interested to see who won the first round, second round games,
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. And then and there already
Speaker 1: was talk of tweaking that or changing that format, or
Speaker 1: receving the teams or how all that's done. How much
Speaker 1: how much work do you think they're going to do
Speaker 1: on that.
Speaker 8: I think they will, because I mean I get the
Speaker 8: stats from ESPN, they sent them to us, and by
Speaker 8: and large, people love the concept of the twelve team playoffs.
Speaker 8: They love the fact that, Okay, there's more teams involved,
Speaker 8: more fan bases involved, from from C to certain and
Speaker 8: C all that sort of thing. But I think people
Speaker 8: had some of the issue was maybe just how the
Speaker 8: teams were seeded. I still think the length of the season.
Speaker 8: You know that they need to find a way to
Speaker 8: cram it a little bit earlier, in my opinion, so
Speaker 8: you're not competing against the NFL. It problem is if
Speaker 8: you put it on it, say you put it on
Speaker 8: that Saturday before that Monday, you're going up against the
Speaker 8: NFL playoffs.
Speaker 2: No one's gonna true, that's the hard thing.
Speaker 8: So they can find a way to sneak that in,
Speaker 8: you know, like that first week of January, like right
Speaker 8: right around January first. I think that that's still I
Speaker 8: think traditionally is okay, this is college football time. People
Speaker 8: are used to watching. Get it around that and then say, Okay,
Speaker 8: we're not even going to try to, you know, shoehorn
Speaker 8: this in when people are really into the NFL and
Speaker 8: the NFL playoffs. Let's make this our own separate thing.
Speaker 8: I think they need to move the season up a
Speaker 8: little bit. I've heard the idea floated because one of
Speaker 8: the weekends that is quote unquote lost and I don't
Speaker 8: mean it this way, but like, you know, the Army
Speaker 8: Navy game happens on its own weekend and it's the
Speaker 8: only game in town, which is wonderful, but it's it's
Speaker 8: like in like mid December, right kind of move. I
Speaker 8: had the idea of put that at the beginning of
Speaker 8: the season. Let's kick off the college football season with
Speaker 8: Army v. Navy the hooplah.
Speaker 2: That might but that actually might make it a bigger deal.
Speaker 8: I think it was kind of moved things up a
Speaker 8: little bit.
Speaker 1: It's like having the Daytona five hundred for the first
Speaker 1: race of the season. In racing, I mean, everyone pays
Speaker 1: attention to the Daytona five.
Speaker 8: I just think you find a way to move the
Speaker 8: season up a little bit, condensed a little bit, and
Speaker 8: so you're not battling the NFL every week because it's
Speaker 8: clear that people love the NFL.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then I saw the NFL today is putting out
Speaker 1: an apology about the halftime show. They apologize to Lil
Speaker 1: Wayne because they chose Kendrick Lamar over and I guess
Speaker 1: Lil Wayne.
Speaker 2: Is from New Orleans. Yeah, I mean does the NFL
Speaker 2: need to get involved in that?
Speaker 8: I mean the NFL literally, the NFL was putting out an.
Speaker 1: NFL sent a letter of apo to Lil Wayne after
Speaker 1: choosing Kendrick Lamar over the New Orleans rapper the the
Speaker 1: for the halftime show. Lil Wayne said he was denied
Speaker 1: a chance to headline this year's show. Uh you know which, uh,
Speaker 1: which sparked outrage, like giving his famous association with the
Speaker 1: Big Easy where he was born and raised.
Speaker 8: Man, I think as far as rappers, go that's your thing.
Speaker 8: I think he's talented, very talented in that in that realm. Yeah,
Speaker 8: the fact it seems like that would be a no brainer.
Speaker 8: NFL usually does miss stuff like that, like, Okay, we
Speaker 8: got a New Orleans guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I always thought he was from Atlanta though,
Speaker 2: but straight out.
Speaker 1: PR right there, I mean, yeah, I mean the then
Speaker 1: NFL's probably got some of the best PR people.
Speaker 2: In a little pushback go to protect the shield man.
Speaker 8: I think not a lot of people really liked this
Speaker 8: halftime show.
Speaker 2: I didn't watch it, Yeah I was I didn't.
Speaker 8: I had no problem with it, like and I didn't
Speaker 8: try to get into the deeper meanings and of course
Speaker 8: all this stuff they had people it was kind of
Speaker 8: a less busiest kind of stripped down were dressed in red,
Speaker 8: white and blue. There wasn't a bunch of social social
Speaker 8: messages that at least I saw. I didn't love it,
Speaker 8: but I was fine with it. So whatever. Yeah, they're
Speaker 8: not doing that show.
Speaker 1: For That's what a buddy of mine was saying yesterday
Speaker 1: that people were telling him that, you know, I guess
Speaker 1: he was at the gym and the people were talking
Speaker 1: about it, and people were telling him that he didn't
Speaker 1: understand you know, the I guess the.
Speaker 2: And all that kind of.
Speaker 8: People aren't trying to do all again. People funny works.
Speaker 8: There was funny and entertaining, no hidden message.
Speaker 1: Yea, I need something for me, I need something spelled
Speaker 1: out a little bit better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, correct, exactly. They gotta make more clear for guys
Speaker 2: like me.
Speaker 1: Okayez oh man, I mean, I guess there has to
Speaker 1: be a super Bowl halftime show.
Speaker 2: It's not like they're going to get rid of it.
Speaker 8: And it's it's something for people to talk about. And
Speaker 8: if they're talking about it, good or bad, it's great
Speaker 8: and interest in the NFL. They love it.
Speaker 1: So Trump gets another hostage released about that. About that,
Speaker 1: I mean, but I mean, since what's happened on January twentieth,
Speaker 1: the news has been so fast and furious. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's actually I made it a point getting ready
Speaker 1: for the show today, I said, I'm gonna take a
Speaker 1: little bit of time and I'm gonna I'm gonna hit
Speaker 1: on some of the stuff that I know I haven't
Speaker 1: talked about since Trump because it's all coming out so fast,
Speaker 1: and you try to and you try to talk about it,
Speaker 1: you can't talk about it all on one show.
Speaker 8: The strategy is flood the zone, and that is, you know,
Speaker 8: you just bombard your opponents with everything and they can
Speaker 8: they can't focus on all the things that are going on.
Speaker 8: I always say this, and people don't understand this about Trump,
Speaker 8: And if even if I feel like I understand his
Speaker 8: m O, and even if you don't like him, you
Speaker 8: should understand his m His MO is walking to a room,
Speaker 8: throw a hand grenade and let everyone freak out. Okay,
Speaker 8: And while you're over there in that corner freaking out
Speaker 8: about this, he's over in that corner getting the thing
Speaker 8: done you really want, and you should you should realize that,
Speaker 8: like does he do you really think he is spending
Speaker 8: endless amounts of time on getting rid of paper straws?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 8: Does he want to do it? Yeah, but he's not
Speaker 8: spend a lot of time on it. But he knows
Speaker 8: you're gonna obsess on it. So while you're obsessing on that,
Speaker 8: he's over here attacking the USA I d or he's
Speaker 8: getting hostages released. He's like, you know, it's like it's
Speaker 8: a diversion. You should realize this by now.
Speaker 2: He likes, he likes getting that big picture out there.
Speaker 1: Everyone else is gonna worry how he's gonna get good
Speaker 1: point A to point B.
Speaker 2: And he's got other people to figure that out.
Speaker 8: Ye, get it out there.
Speaker 2: It's gonna happen down the road.
Speaker 8: The amount of people that are upset that people that
Speaker 8: there's a team of folks exposing government corruption that is
Speaker 8: that is mind blowing to me. That people are viscerally upset.
Speaker 8: And I'm here at news departments all across the country.
Speaker 8: They're like, oh my god, they're going after idea. They're
Speaker 8: doing this, they're doing that. And the fact that they
Speaker 8: are upset that someone is finding ways that the government
Speaker 8: has been abusing your tax dollars for decades and decades
Speaker 8: and you're upset about it. I can't relate to that.
Speaker 1: Well, they're getting this because they're getting closer to the
Speaker 1: target and when you know when it's going to be
Speaker 1: your rocks and Gord, I mean, you're the one that's
Speaker 1: out there. And I talked to Brad Winster yesterday and
Speaker 1: I said, you know, I said, did you know it
Speaker 1: was this bad? And he said no, he did. He
Speaker 1: was in Congress, you know, twelve years. He didn't he
Speaker 1: knew it was bad. Didn't know what was this bad?
Speaker 8: Well, well, that's the thing. We all knew it was bad.
Speaker 8: We all knew what was happening, but he couldn't prove it.
Speaker 8: But now they got the team of people with the
Speaker 8: help of AI, which I go read up on that
Speaker 8: how they're using AI to find all these sort of
Speaker 8: wastes and things like that, along with the whole Doge team.
Speaker 8: I'm glad it's happened.
Speaker 2: All right, what do you got coming up right out
Speaker 2: of the gate.
Speaker 8: We're gonna have Mark Sheldon live from spring training on
Speaker 8: that front.
Speaker 2: Catchers report important today. Yeah, oh that's big, So.
Speaker 8: We're gonna get He wrote an article that I read
Speaker 8: it was appear on MLB dot com. And also that's
Speaker 8: talking about his projection for the roster, and there's gonna
Speaker 8: be some competition and maybe a little shake up, which
Speaker 8: is always a good thing.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 8: It's not like we're coming in and you know, the
Speaker 8: twenty five man roster right out.
Speaker 2: Of gate resteritory. Frank conne Man, it's gonna be big.
Speaker 4: Should be good.
Speaker 2: All right, Rock have a great shop.
Speaker 1: Thanks bre We'll see you later on seven hundred ww
Speaker 1: mm hm