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<v Speaker 1>The city of Punta Gorda in central Florida was once

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<v Speaker 1>listed by Money magazine as the second best place in

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<v Speaker 1>America to live. An easy going paradise known for long,

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<v Speaker 1>laid back summer days, but it's not without its night life.

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<v Speaker 2>How you doing over there? It's fine, really, I think

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<v Speaker 2>another paris.

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<v Speaker 1>Surrounding the city is a vast wilderness of tall trees

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<v Speaker 1>and thick vegetation, the perfect spot for subtropical predators, the

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of predators who would want to keep their activities

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<v Speaker 1>very secret.

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<v Speaker 3>If you were out there, nobody could ever hear your screen.

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<v Speaker 1>In January nineteen ninety four, two hunters head deep into

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<v Speaker 1>these woods. No one is prime hunting ground for wild hogs,

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<v Speaker 1>but it may be that hogs aren't the only thing

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<v Speaker 1>being hunted out here.

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<v Speaker 4>There's definitely foul play involved. Something really bad is going on.

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<v Speaker 1>An unidentified corpse is found in the Florida wilderness, and

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<v Speaker 1>it won't be the last.

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<v Speaker 5>We have no idea who any of these people were.

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<v Speaker 1>The damage to the body suggests extreme foul playing. Brutal

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<v Speaker 1>slaves put cops on the trail of a killer who's

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<v Speaker 1>one step ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>It was exactly like watching a sharp circle of prey.

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<v Speaker 1>To catch him, they'll use every trick in the book

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<v Speaker 1>and risk the life of one of their own. A

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<v Speaker 1>residential development goes belly up, leaving the forests around Putta Gorda, Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>shot through with paved roads to nowhere. These roads give

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<v Speaker 1>hunters easy access to terrain known as the hog trails,

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<v Speaker 1>and today they lead Rick Hobbes of the Charlotte County

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<v Speaker 1>Sheriff's Department to a corpse, joining him as Jim Myers,

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<v Speaker 1>a state investigator with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.

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<v Speaker 5>The most typical things that we deal with here in

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<v Speaker 5>Charlotte County are generally thefts and burgeries, arguments, things of

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<v Speaker 5>that nature. We don't have that much in terms of

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<v Speaker 5>violent crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Authorities fear the status quo has just changed. But in

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<v Speaker 1>trying to determine if this is a case of murder,

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<v Speaker 1>they face an extreme uphill battle.

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<v Speaker 5>The bodies in the state of Florida, especially that in

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<v Speaker 5>a later time of year, they decompose rapidly because of

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<v Speaker 5>the moisture the heat out in the wooded area.

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<v Speaker 6>You've got.

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<v Speaker 5>Animals, insects, so it doesn't take very long for a

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<v Speaker 5>body to decompose down to skeletal remains that can happen

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<v Speaker 5>within a matter of weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>The lack of any clothing or personal effects on the

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<v Speaker 1>victim heightened police suspicions.

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<v Speaker 5>And there was just nothing there, just the body.

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<v Speaker 1>At the Charlotte County Morgue, the medical examiner seeks to

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<v Speaker 1>learn how the victim met his fate.

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<v Speaker 7>Logged the remains as a John Do because we did

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<v Speaker 7>not know the name, and after documenting all the external

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<v Speaker 7>evidence whatever was there and the remains, we performed the autopsy.

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<v Speaker 5>There were some indications during examination of strangulation.

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<v Speaker 6>They found some possible.

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<v Speaker 5>Indications of some ligature marks on the neck, in the arms,

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<v Speaker 5>and the legs.

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<v Speaker 1>Though exactly what happened is unclear, all signs point to homicide.

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<v Speaker 1>The next step is to identify the victim, and it

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<v Speaker 1>won't be easy.

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<v Speaker 8>When you have skeletal remains or a body that's found

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<v Speaker 8>in a remote area with nothing else. You have to

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<v Speaker 8>go back to the very basics.

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<v Speaker 9>We had to start from scratch.

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<v Speaker 6>We know he's a white male.

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<v Speaker 5>I believe he was around five foot nine I remember correctly,

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<v Speaker 5>which probably in.

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<v Speaker 6>His late twenties early thirties.

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<v Speaker 1>Dark hair investigators scour missing person's reports, the corpse's teeth

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<v Speaker 1>or X ray and compared to dental records, but to

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<v Speaker 1>no avail.

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<v Speaker 5>I actually had a partial fingerprint from the victim. That

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<v Speaker 5>was difficult though, because it was only a partial print

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<v Speaker 5>from one finger off the decomposed body. I had that

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<v Speaker 5>submitted to the automatic fingerprint identification system to see if

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<v Speaker 5>there was any possible matches on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the examiner finds an unusual clue, a steel pin

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<v Speaker 1>lodged in the victim's left leg and it's marked with

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<v Speaker 1>a serial number. But in the nineteen nineties, no reliable

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<v Speaker 1>records were kept to such implants. Having hit a dead end,

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<v Speaker 1>authorities now turned to a forensic skull reconstructionist. Photographs and

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<v Speaker 1>measurements of the victim's skull are entered into a computer.

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<v Speaker 1>The combined sciences of anatomy, osteology and anthropology are then

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<v Speaker 1>utilized to create a composite impression of the victim's facial features.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, you got composite.

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<v Speaker 8>Back, there's for supplements to show the public to try

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<v Speaker 8>to see if anyone wanted to recognize this individual.

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<v Speaker 1>The composite is circulated through the media, but no one

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<v Speaker 1>comes forward. After months of intense efforts, police have a

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<v Speaker 1>victim they still can't identify, but Rick Hobbs keeps trying.

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<v Speaker 5>I would physically go in and pull each piece of

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<v Speaker 5>evidence and examine it. I would go through each lab

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<v Speaker 5>report to see if there was anything that we may

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<v Speaker 5>have collected that for some reason or other, it didn't

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<v Speaker 5>get processed.

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<v Speaker 1>But despite his best endeavors, the case eventually goes cold.

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<v Speaker 1>At least no other bodies have turned up in the

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<v Speaker 1>time since John Doe was discovered, But all that changes

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<v Speaker 1>on New Year's Day nineteen ninety six.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you got there, boy?

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<v Speaker 1>When a dog owned by Northport resident Wayne Brown makes

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<v Speaker 1>a strange discovery.

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<v Speaker 4>His dog brought home a human head and was chewing

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<v Speaker 4>out on his front lawn.

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<v Speaker 1>The hog trails have offered up a second victim. How

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<v Speaker 1>many more may be out there? Investigation into the mysterious

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<v Speaker 1>death of a John Doe in Florida has gone cold.

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<v Speaker 1>No sooner has the case been set aside. When another

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<v Speaker 1>grim discovery is made in a neighboring county, Detective Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Schwineer of the Northport Police takes the call.

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<v Speaker 4>The skull, as it was found in the yard, was

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<v Speaker 4>missing the lower jaw portion, the upper teeth were intact,

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<v Speaker 4>and there was a minute amount of flesh still on

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<v Speaker 4>the skull. The first thing comes to a detective's mind

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<v Speaker 4>is where to come from and where's the rest of it?

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<v Speaker 4>So our first step is to find the rest of

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<v Speaker 4>the body. It was an area of very few houses

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<v Speaker 4>and there was a lot.

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<v Speaker 9>Of vacant roads there. We divided the.

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<v Speaker 6>Area up into blocks.

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<v Speaker 4>We had law enforcement officers from several agencies and what

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<v Speaker 4>we did is we did block by block grid.

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<v Speaker 1>Search days past with no luck.

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<v Speaker 2>I found something.

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<v Speaker 1>Then an officer wanders into an unsearched area.

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<v Speaker 4>There was bones, spine, rib cage. There was fleshy skin

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<v Speaker 4>still on the part of the rib cage and on

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<v Speaker 4>the one of the arms.

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<v Speaker 6>I believe it was a right arm.

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<v Speaker 4>We weren't really sure what circumstances we have, but we

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<v Speaker 4>have to treat any of these scenes as the possible

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<v Speaker 4>worst case scenario. We called in a FDLI forensics teams

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<v Speaker 4>that conduct their crime scene search. They put steaks up

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<v Speaker 4>and they go over every square inch with a fine

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<v Speaker 4>tooth comb to see what is exactly is mixed in

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<v Speaker 4>with the bones and the remains, and then they searched

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<v Speaker 4>the ground underneath all the remains that possible jewelry bullets.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no end to what may be of evidentary value

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<v Speaker 4>one of these scenes. And we did find a lower

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<v Speaker 4>job portion too when through were searching.

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<v Speaker 1>But what Schwentier doesn't find is also crucial to his

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<v Speaker 1>assessment of the case.

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<v Speaker 4>The first thing that keyed in I May was lack

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<v Speaker 4>of clothing. We found absolutely no evidence of that scene

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<v Speaker 4>other than the body and some skin on it. Somebody

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<v Speaker 4>brought him here or somebody probably killed him here.

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<v Speaker 1>An autopsy is conducted, though the coroner's report is inconclusive,

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<v Speaker 1>investigators are convinced of the worst.

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<v Speaker 4>We definitely felt it was a homicide. We had no

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<v Speaker 4>hard evidence to say how this person was killed, but

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<v Speaker 4>as investigators were leaning towards.

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<v Speaker 1>Homicide, investigators determine the body has been in the woods

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<v Speaker 1>at least six months, but in all that time, no

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<v Speaker 1>one matching its height or probable age has been reported missing.

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<v Speaker 1>Now police in two counties have anonymous victims, their cause

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<v Speaker 1>of death unknown. Nine weeks later, on March seventh, nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety six, just three miles from where the bones of

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<v Speaker 1>John Doe number two were found, a motorist pulls off

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<v Speaker 1>the highway to relieve himself and the case takes another turn.

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<v Speaker 4>John Do number three was found in a very very

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<v Speaker 4>similar area as John Doe number two. This body was

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<v Speaker 4>mostly intact, laying on his back, his irons flailed out

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<v Speaker 4>to his side, totally naked.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no question this man was murdered, and Schweneer

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<v Speaker 1>gets a shocking new clue when he sees the John

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<v Speaker 1>Doe number three has been horribly mutilated.

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<v Speaker 4>As obvious as genitalia had been removed. Insects take the

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<v Speaker 4>easiest route of penetration to a body. They'll go into

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<v Speaker 4>any orifice, mouth, eyes, there's a gunshot, stabbing wound. This

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<v Speaker 4>is where the insects will infiltrate a body, and this

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<v Speaker 4>is where they were there in the groin area.

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<v Speaker 1>Authorities try to fathom what kind of deranged killer they're

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with.

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<v Speaker 8>Obviously, when you have a general toilt remove that was

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<v Speaker 8>an identifier that there's definitely some kind of a sexual.

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<v Speaker 9>Deviancy invall.

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<v Speaker 1>A search of the crime scene soon sheds light on

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<v Speaker 1>a psychopath's terrifying mo.

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<v Speaker 4>There was a ligature mark around the tree, a throat level.

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<v Speaker 4>There was some hand level, and it was also some

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<v Speaker 4>about where.

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<v Speaker 5>The ankles and chins would be on the tree.

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<v Speaker 4>Very obvious when you look at him as to what

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<v Speaker 4>happened there. This victim was tied to this tree. Now

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<v Speaker 4>we have two naked dead men out in the woods.

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<v Speaker 4>There's definitely foul play involved. Something really bad is going on.

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<v Speaker 1>When Rick Hobbs gets wind of the murders in Northport County,

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<v Speaker 1>his cold case suddenly warms up.

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<v Speaker 5>I grabbed my case file and I went up to

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<v Speaker 5>Northport and sat.

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<v Speaker 6>Down with Tom and.

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<v Speaker 5>We started comparing our cases.

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<v Speaker 6>That's a little different than the other one, still an

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<v Speaker 6>adult fail.

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<v Speaker 5>Now we could see the similarities between not only John

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<v Speaker 5>Done number one and John Done number three, but it

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<v Speaker 5>also brought in John Done number two, and we were

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<v Speaker 5>looking at one another's crime scene phones. If you didn't

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<v Speaker 5>know which scene you were looking at, you couldn't tell

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<v Speaker 5>them apart.

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<v Speaker 1>Hobbs and Schwineer revisit the first two crime scenes only

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<v Speaker 1>five miles apart. In both cases, they find the link

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<v Speaker 1>they're looking for.

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<v Speaker 5>We started seeing as the striation marks on the trees,

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<v Speaker 5>and I suspect we have a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, The investigators are forced to confront the obvious they're

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with a serial killer. When the story breaks in

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<v Speaker 1>the media, the entire region is gripped in fear.

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<v Speaker 5>When we have a death, an unusual death in this area,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean it's going to be on the front page.

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<v Speaker 8>The community is not used to the crimes like this

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<v Speaker 8>being committed, and there was a lot of worried and

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<v Speaker 8>nervous citizens out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Pressure mounts on authorities to stop a madman before he

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<v Speaker 1>kills again. Unable to identify their latest victim, police seek

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<v Speaker 1>another way to move things forward. They turn to profilers

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<v Speaker 1>Wayne Porter for help in the case the investigation. The

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<v Speaker 10>A sexual sadist is an individual that would in fact

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<v Speaker 10>do harm to the individual while they are still alive,

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<v Speaker 10>and that harm, many times is to the genitalia.

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<v Speaker 6>Wayne, if you can give us a read.

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<v Speaker 1>On that you know and the ligature marks on the trees,

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<v Speaker 10>Bondage with sexual sadists is a very common characteristic. You

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<v Speaker 10>one of the fast of the fantasy. This is part

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<v Speaker 10>of the gasoline that runs the fantasy. One of the

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<v Speaker 10>their crimes. They will videotape, they will take photographs.

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<v Speaker 1>To stop a monster in their midst, law enforcement agencies

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<v Speaker 1>from all over the state band together and create a

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<v Speaker 5>We had upwards of fifteen sixty people working.

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<v Speaker 5>It's another one, so I had myself and then Jim

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<v Speaker 1>Now no sooner has the task force established itself. When

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<v Speaker 1>Hobbes receives disturbing.

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<v Speaker 5>News, Sheriff's office received a call early on the morning

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll be right there.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, they discovered part of a human body lying back

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<v Speaker 6>Guys, let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>Something's up for the Hog Trail murder investigators. It seems

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<v Speaker 1>the woods of central Florida are full of dead bodies,

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<v Speaker 1>Only this time dead men will start telling tales. Three

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<v Speaker 1>men have been found dead in the Florida Hog Trails,

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<v Speaker 1>killed by the same deranged sexual sadist. Now police are

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<v Speaker 5>We saw something kind of round laying on the ground,

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<v Speaker 1>Among the other remains is the victims decomposed Torso it's

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<v Speaker 1>this grizzly fine that provides investigators with their first break.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a very noticeable tattoo from the shoulder area.

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<v Speaker 4>so many tattoos, just like almost like a fingerprint, note

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<v Speaker 4>toh alike. I'll use different dyes, different colors, and we

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<v Speaker 4>felt this will help us identify this individual.

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<v Speaker 1>Hobbs walks deeper into the woods in search of more evidence.

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<v Speaker 6>Off in the distance, I can see something.

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<v Speaker 5>As I start getting a little closer, now I can

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<v Speaker 6>Do I have a homeless guy sleeping in the woods.

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<v Speaker 5>But the thing that really said oh was I could

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<v Speaker 5>see blood over here. Lifted up the carpet padding and

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<v Speaker 5>there we had the remains of a white male, and

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<v Speaker 5>he didn't appear like he had been there very long.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe twelve hours. He was really fresh, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 6>We could clearly see the.

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<v Speaker 5>Ligature marks on the neck, ligature marks on the arms,

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<v Speaker 6>And along the calfs. I like to say it, but

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<v Speaker 6>this helps his cause him.

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<v Speaker 8>Death was suffocation, probably most likely from the you know,

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<v Speaker 8>the strangulation from via the ligature marks that were discovered

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<v Speaker 8>around the neck. The removal of the Jennifer's would appear

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<v Speaker 1>Not only has the serial killer struck again, his spree

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<v Speaker 1>appears to be escalating. Authorities now have two new bodies

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<v Speaker 1>from which to glean evidence. They begin with the tattoo

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<v Speaker 1>found on John Doe number four.

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<v Speaker 5>We decided to take that piece of skin and photograph it.

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<v Speaker 5>The tattoo was released to the news media, and it

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<v Speaker 5>was on the television stations, and it was printed in

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<v Speaker 1>Hobb's tactic pays off.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi, this is Teresa Smith.

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<v Speaker 11>Is there someone I can talk to you about tattoo

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<v Speaker 11>in the newspaper.

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<v Speaker 4>Once we had John Doe number four identified as Kenny

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<v Speaker 4>Smith from Naples and Callier County, Florida, that gave us

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<v Speaker 4>a whole new avenue of investigation. We could go and say, well,

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<v Speaker 4>who knows him, who hangs out with him?

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<v Speaker 6>What's he do?

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<v Speaker 9>Where's he work?

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<v Speaker 6>Kenny Smith was basically the street person.

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<v Speaker 5>He he went from shell to sheltered, job to job,

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<v Speaker 5>did a lot of drinking, a lot of party and drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>Authorities take another look at the first three victims and

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<v Speaker 1>a pattern emerges.

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<v Speaker 5>When the medical examiner examines the body, he can tell

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<v Speaker 5>a lot about how a person lives. By the conditions

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<v Speaker 5>of the organs and the teeth and everything indicated that

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<v Speaker 5>these were people lived on the street.

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<v Speaker 1>Could it be that the killer deliberately targets the down

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<v Speaker 1>and out in hopes of keeping his victims nameless. Further

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<v Speaker 1>investigation of Kenny Smith yields no answers. Police now pin

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<v Speaker 1>their hopes on John Doe number five.

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<v Speaker 8>We took some latent fingerprints from Hell and ran them

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<v Speaker 9>He had some pass arrest.

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<v Speaker 1>John Doe number five is id'd as Rich Montgomery, also

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<v Speaker 1>a street person. Hobbes tracks down Montgomery's mother, who happens

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<v Speaker 1>to have some very interesting information about her son's final hours.

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<v Speaker 5>He said something about somebody offering him some money to

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<v Speaker 5>pose news, something about the man driving a Capria, a

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<v Speaker 1>She tells police that Montgomery went to meet this man

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<v Speaker 1>and was never seen again.

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<v Speaker 8>The person was selecting Transiencent panhandlers.

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<v Speaker 9>For one reason.

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<v Speaker 8>It's because there's no one to witness the fact that

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<v Speaker 8>she picked him up.

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<v Speaker 1>After more than two years of investigation, the task force

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<v Speaker 1>has an mo and a profile of their killer. What

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have is a suspect. Now, a man who

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<v Speaker 1>took a ride with death is about to provide them

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<v Speaker 2>I'll talk to you for a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>Five men of no fixed address are murdered within a

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<v Speaker 1>ten mile radius of each other, and police still have

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<v Speaker 1>no suspect. But when news of the homicides reaches state

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<v Speaker 1>prison and made David Peyton, he contacts authorities with an

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<v Speaker 1>astonishing tale.

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<v Speaker 2>Mister Peyton and myers, won't you go ahead and tell

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<v Speaker 2>me your story?

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<v Speaker 12>So there's this guy pulls up to me in a blue.

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<v Speaker 2>Cor Yeah, this will be fun, lul little kickback.

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<v Speaker 13>I have a few cold beers, a little weed that

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<v Speaker 13>sounds good to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, you care for some of these? He's right here.

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<v Speaker 6>Him, sweet man.

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<v Speaker 14>He drives out sort of into the woods, almost in

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<v Speaker 14>the middle of nowhere. Guy offers being more money. He says,

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<v Speaker 14>if he can tie me up take pictures of me

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<v Speaker 14>for some men's magazine, how'd.

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<v Speaker 15>You feel about if we get a little more creative

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<v Speaker 15>with the photographs.

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<v Speaker 14>I agree to it, but I'm feeling a little nervous

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<v Speaker 14>about this whole situation. He gets the car stuck in

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<v Speaker 14>a ditch.

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<v Speaker 16>Man, It's okay, I'll get him. NU give us a push.

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<v Speaker 2>Shoo, you stay here, I push.

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<v Speaker 8>During the course of the time he was in the vehicle,

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<v Speaker 8>he started looking around and saw a bag that was

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<v Speaker 8>in the back seat that had items like duct tape,

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<v Speaker 8>some ropes, a blue park a large.

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<v Speaker 5>Tight knife, and with what he had seen inside the

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<v Speaker 5>vehicle and the way the guy had acted when he

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<v Speaker 5>had the opportunity, he was behind the wheel of the

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<v Speaker 5>car when they got it free, he took off in

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<v Speaker 5>the car, leaving the guy out there.

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<v Speaker 6>In the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>Peyton may have cheated death, but he couldn't outrun the law.

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<v Speaker 9>He got the vehicle and went back to Fort Myers.

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<v Speaker 9>By this time, the drug and the.

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<v Speaker 8>Booze was really acting on him, and he actually fell

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<v Speaker 8>asleep and by this time, the subject had filled out

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<v Speaker 8>a stolen vehicle report with Charlotte County Shriff's Office. To

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<v Speaker 8>Fort Myers Police Department found the vehicle and mister Peyton

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<v Speaker 8>was arrested for grand theft auto and that's what he

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<v Speaker 8>was serving time on. It was a grand theft auto

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<v Speaker 6>He provided some very specific information.

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<v Speaker 5>Which allowed us to go back through records and get

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<v Speaker 5>an identity on the person that he said took him

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<v Speaker 5>out into the woods. That person was found to be

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<v Speaker 5>a guy by the name of Daniel Conahan.

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<v Speaker 1>Police soon locate Conahan and put him under surveillance. A

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<v Speaker 1>background check proves very revealing.

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<v Speaker 4>Reviewing his records from the Armed Services the Navy, he

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<v Speaker 4>was determined that he was discharged for trying to commit

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<v Speaker 4>accescidomy and other sailors.

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<v Speaker 1>Conahan later moved to Chicago, where authorities tracked down and

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<v Speaker 1>interview an old roommate.

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<v Speaker 8>He actually was able to identify to us what mister

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<v Speaker 8>Conahan had stated as one of his fantasies, and that

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<v Speaker 8>fantasy is to pick up an individual like a hitchhiker

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<v Speaker 8>and take him to a wooded area, tie him up,

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<v Speaker 8>and have sex with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Leaving a trail of devi and sexual behavior in his wake.

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<v Speaker 1>Conahan moves from Chicago back to Punta Gorda.

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<v Speaker 4>Experience were elderly and they weren't in the best of health.

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<v Speaker 4>He moved back to health care for his parents.

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<v Speaker 1>Further investigation reveals that upon returning to Florida, Conahan trained

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<v Speaker 1>as a nurse, which could account for the skillful mutilation

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<v Speaker 1>of the victims. It looks like police have their man.

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<v Speaker 9>He was our key suspect at the time based on

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<v Speaker 9>what we had learned.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they need hard evidence to nail them.

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<v Speaker 8>We started a twenty four hour surveillance on him to

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<v Speaker 8>determine you know what is patterns as tribal powers stay

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<v Speaker 8>activity was.

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<v Speaker 1>Cameras are mounted on telephone poles outside his residence.

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<v Speaker 5>In watching the surveillance video kind of hand, he'd bring

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<v Speaker 5>his backpack out and he would stop and he would

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<v Speaker 5>set that backpack on top of that blue car, and

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<v Speaker 5>then he would usually stand there and smoke a cigarette.

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<v Speaker 8>And we believe that that backpack may contain what we

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<v Speaker 8>refer to as tools or the trades for a very

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<v Speaker 8>similar to what mister Peyton had described.

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<v Speaker 10>Some people call it a murder kid I call it

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<v Speaker 10>a treasure chest. And this treasure chest includes the weapons

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<v Speaker 10>that he's going to use, the bindings that will be used,

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<v Speaker 10>any equipment that might be needed in this assault.

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<v Speaker 1>Investigators follow the dutiful son as he drives his mother

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<v Speaker 1>to and from her senior's home. They also track his

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<v Speaker 1>less wholesome activities.

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<v Speaker 4>He drive by one of the soup kitchens or drive

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<v Speaker 4>by one of homeless shelters, and he was like cruising.

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<v Speaker 4>He's looking for exactly what we thought. He was looking

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<v Speaker 4>for a homeless person or somebody who's hanging around the

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<v Speaker 4>dumpsters or in one of the back alleys.

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<v Speaker 6>My views is hunting.

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<v Speaker 4>It's exactly like watching a shark.

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<v Speaker 9>Circle of prey.

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<v Speaker 1>Armed with information about the root, Conahan Travels authorities make

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<v Speaker 1>a bold boom. They place an undercover officer disguised as

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<v Speaker 1>a homeless man right in his path.

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00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:18.799
<v Speaker 9>We put an uncover detective ray. We're out on a

437
00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:19.559
<v Speaker 9>corner where he.

438
00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:23.720
<v Speaker 8>Would go buy that location, coming back or from our

439
00:28:23.799 --> 00:28:25.480
<v Speaker 8>tour from visiting his mother.

440
00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:30.799
<v Speaker 1>Weir Man's his post, hoping to lure the targets.

441
00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:38.119
<v Speaker 2>How about.

442
00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:50.000
<v Speaker 1>What fit from here? Believe it is probably gonna head home. Finally,

443
00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:53.279
<v Speaker 1>after weeks on the job, Conahan takes the bait.

444
00:28:54.640 --> 00:28:57.079
<v Speaker 9>He made contact, he stopped, stopped his vehicle.

445
00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:01.359
<v Speaker 2>How are you gonna get good?

446
00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Good?

447
00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:05.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm Dan, Dan Conahan. Nice to meet to Dan.

448
00:29:05.920 --> 00:29:08.960
<v Speaker 17>He was eerie to me and I felt there was

449
00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:09.880
<v Speaker 17>something wrong with him.

450
00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:10.799
<v Speaker 9>What I didn't know?

451
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:13.680
<v Speaker 7>Uh listen, if you're looking for work, I could probably

452
00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:14.240
<v Speaker 7>help you out.

453
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:20.799
<v Speaker 15>Yeah, eh, well listen, it'd be uh well, basically it's at.

454
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<v Speaker 13>That point in time.

455
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<v Speaker 17>He says something to the effect that, well, there'd be

456
00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:27.079
<v Speaker 17>some progressive bondage shots. I don't know if you're into that.

457
00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:29.200
<v Speaker 17>And again I told him, all the money toss you

458
00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:32.640
<v Speaker 17>got the cash, I need it. You know, we'll try

459
00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:34.039
<v Speaker 17>it whatever, whatever it takes.

460
00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:38.279
<v Speaker 2>It's easy money. Sure, Yeah, all right?

461
00:29:38.640 --> 00:29:38.880
<v Speaker 13>Come on.

462
00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:43.440
<v Speaker 1>A cop drives into the Hog Trails with suspected serial

463
00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:54.359
<v Speaker 1>killer Daniel Conahan. Will he make it out alive? Five

464
00:29:54.599 --> 00:29:58.000
<v Speaker 1>corpses have been mutilated and abandoned in the Florida Woods.

465
00:29:58.799 --> 00:30:01.200
<v Speaker 1>After two and a half years of dead ends, police

466
00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:05.519
<v Speaker 1>have zeroed in on suspect Daniel Conahan. Now Conahan has

467
00:30:05.559 --> 00:30:09.079
<v Speaker 1>another victim in his car, but doesn't know it's undercover

468
00:30:09.240 --> 00:30:10.319
<v Speaker 1>cop Ray Weir.

469
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<v Speaker 17>I told him I was staying out back in the woods.

470
00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:17.119
<v Speaker 17>I told him to come out to my camp. I

471
00:30:17.240 --> 00:30:19.119
<v Speaker 17>go all the way out there, parked it. He parked

472
00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:21.839
<v Speaker 17>his car, walked up. I had a couple of chairs

473
00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:24.000
<v Speaker 17>set up and he sat down. We started talking.

474
00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:27.480
<v Speaker 5>So what are we going to take these pictures you

475
00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:28.200
<v Speaker 5>were talking about?

476
00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:31.200
<v Speaker 17>I don't know.

477
00:30:31.640 --> 00:30:32.559
<v Speaker 18>It sounds kind of.

478
00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:34.119
<v Speaker 9>Fun with the.

479
00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:39.599
<v Speaker 1>Conahan is also unaware that this location has been staked

480
00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:40.480
<v Speaker 1>out by police.

481
00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:44.000
<v Speaker 9>We had swat concealed in the woods.

482
00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:55.160
<v Speaker 5>They started getting at nervous and he was with that backpipe,

483
00:30:57.480 --> 00:30:59.000
<v Speaker 5>so they were watching that.

484
00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:04.400
<v Speaker 19>I had for my friends to find out about this,

485
00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:07.319
<v Speaker 19>you know, but I got to admit I I could

486
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:08.200
<v Speaker 19>change that money.

487
00:31:10.119 --> 00:31:11.279
<v Speaker 6>It's not gonna hurt or anything.

488
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:17.359
<v Speaker 2>Isn't gotta go.

489
00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Where you going.

490
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:25.559
<v Speaker 5>I can't say why he called it off. I believe

491
00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:28.000
<v Speaker 5>is because he wasn't in control.

492
00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:29.799
<v Speaker 6>He wasn't in his element.

493
00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Authorities missed their best chance so far to catch Conahan

494
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:39.000
<v Speaker 1>red handed, and they're running out of options. Surveillance of

495
00:31:39.079 --> 00:31:43.319
<v Speaker 1>this magnitude is too costly to sustain for long time.

496
00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:48.720
<v Speaker 5>For a new direction, just high Hand's been offering money,

497
00:31:50.640 --> 00:31:53.799
<v Speaker 5>So we get his financial records, we get his bank statements,

498
00:31:53.960 --> 00:31:57.119
<v Speaker 5>we get his credit card records. Now we started seeing

499
00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:11.079
<v Speaker 5>a series of perches of particular items wrote tape, tarps, film, knives, flyers,

500
00:32:11.599 --> 00:32:16.359
<v Speaker 5>and cameras, and there seemed to be intervals on these.

501
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:21.839
<v Speaker 1>Purchases, intervals that coincide with the timelines of some of

502
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:26.319
<v Speaker 1>the murders. Finally, police have the compelling connection they need

503
00:32:26.519 --> 00:32:29.400
<v Speaker 1>to execute a search warrant on Conahan's home.

504
00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:34.920
<v Speaker 20>First, we photograph, then we make a sketch of the area.

505
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:37.880
<v Speaker 20>If we're going to do vacuum sweepings, which in this

506
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:39.599
<v Speaker 20>case we did, that would be one of the first

507
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:40.240
<v Speaker 20>things we would do.

508
00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:47.759
<v Speaker 8>We did see a backpack and found the backpack we

509
00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:51.640
<v Speaker 8>thought was significant that matched some of the description of

510
00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:53.920
<v Speaker 8>what we had seen during surveillance.

511
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:55.359
<v Speaker 9>When he was coming to and from his vehicles. A

512
00:32:55.400 --> 00:32:57.319
<v Speaker 9>lot of times he would have this backpack.

513
00:32:57.559 --> 00:32:59.680
<v Speaker 1>The murder kit they hoped to find is not in

514
00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:03.839
<v Speaker 1>the back, but a number of suspicious objects are found

515
00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:04.400
<v Speaker 1>in the home.

516
00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:06.480
<v Speaker 4>We did find a knife, we did find some rope,

517
00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:08.440
<v Speaker 4>We did find some polaroid pictures and filmed.

518
00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:11.559
<v Speaker 2>We found the components, but they weren't in this bag.

519
00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:16.759
<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, police intercept Conahan and bring him to a second

520
00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:18.119
<v Speaker 1>location for questioning.

521
00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:20.519
<v Speaker 21>Hi, how you doing?

522
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:22.640
<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

523
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:27.279
<v Speaker 2>How special agent for from the Governor's office. Do you

524
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:31.319
<v Speaker 2>recognize this man? I've never seen that man before in

525
00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:36.319
<v Speaker 2>my life. You're quite sure about that, sir, c Well,

526
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:38.000
<v Speaker 2>I just told you I've never seen him before.

527
00:33:38.440 --> 00:33:42.200
<v Speaker 11>You have a past record of history of a molestation

528
00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:43.119
<v Speaker 11>out in Chicago.

529
00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:46.039
<v Speaker 15>Can you explain that well, as a matter of fact,

530
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:51.240
<v Speaker 15>I can't explain that that that all that involves a

531
00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:55.000
<v Speaker 15>misunderstanding within within an existing relationship.

532
00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:59.640
<v Speaker 10>And he was asked if he did the crime, if

533
00:33:59.720 --> 00:34:04.440
<v Speaker 10>he was there, if he knew the victims. He was

534
00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:09.559
<v Speaker 10>always on guard during the interview, very evasive in his answers.

535
00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:14.679
<v Speaker 10>Have you ever participated in body.

536
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I with the magazines, I've seen some movies.

537
00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:23.159
<v Speaker 2>I have never taught anybody out of the very tally.

538
00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:27.039
<v Speaker 1>Re porter continues to press Conahan while the search team

539
00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:29.800
<v Speaker 1>descends on his blue Mercury Capri that.

540
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:32.119
<v Speaker 9>Had a paint job that was peeling.

541
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:38.119
<v Speaker 8>We took paint samplings from the chips, uh and then scrape.

542
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:39.079
<v Speaker 6>Beings from the paint.

543
00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:42.920
<v Speaker 4>There was fibers found from his house and his car,

544
00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:47.599
<v Speaker 4>fibers that may be transferable to our victims.

545
00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Your picture's gonna be plastered over the paper. Now, what

546
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:55.360
<v Speaker 2>do you think is going to happen with all the

547
00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:58.599
<v Speaker 2>people you may have come in contact with when they

548
00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:01.360
<v Speaker 2>call in and they say, yeah, we went.

549
00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:02.119
<v Speaker 1>Out of the woods.

550
00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:05.960
<v Speaker 10>He said he had a fantasy my photograph if we

551
00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:07.119
<v Speaker 10>did something.

552
00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:10.159
<v Speaker 20>Like that, Yeah, it won't look good.

553
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:11.519
<v Speaker 16>It won't be good.

554
00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:18.119
<v Speaker 2>Mind arrest, How must to come ahead? You're free to go,

555
00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:21.000
<v Speaker 2>So I'm free to go, sir, Thank you very much, goodbye.

556
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:28.559
<v Speaker 10>He was pleasant, cold, and calculating. The interview did not

557
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:30.960
<v Speaker 10>seem to impress him very much.

558
00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:36.079
<v Speaker 1>The search of Conahan's home and vehicle yields several items

559
00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:39.920
<v Speaker 1>of interest, including unusual rope fibers police hope will match

560
00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:41.960
<v Speaker 1>those recovered from the crime scenes.

561
00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:46.719
<v Speaker 8>We did not find any evidence that would clearly identify

562
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:48.960
<v Speaker 8>him as a person responsible for our crimes.

563
00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:54.880
<v Speaker 1>In this high stakes game of cat and mouse, the

564
00:35:55.039 --> 00:36:01.679
<v Speaker 1>mouse appears to be winning. Hobbs sends out a police

565
00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:06.360
<v Speaker 1>bulletin to all jurisdictions in Central Florida, describing the murders

566
00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:09.440
<v Speaker 1>and asking for any information that may help his case.

567
00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:17.599
<v Speaker 1>The bulletin catches the attention of Officer Pedro Soto. I'm

568
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:18.119
<v Speaker 1>in awe.

569
00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:20.519
<v Speaker 9>I'm in shock. I'm looking at it. I'm going like,

570
00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:21.239
<v Speaker 9>oh my god.

571
00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:25.199
<v Speaker 1>Soto immediately contacts the Charlotte County Sheriff.

572
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:29.320
<v Speaker 3>And I said, you know, this is amazing. I had

573
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:31.599
<v Speaker 3>a crime scene just like this two years ago. You

574
00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:32.519
<v Speaker 3>guys know about it.

575
00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:33.679
<v Speaker 6>And I told him.

576
00:36:33.719 --> 00:36:36.760
<v Speaker 5>I said, well, I had sent out teletypes and phone calls.

577
00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:39.840
<v Speaker 5>Anybody'd had any similar similar desks, you know, give me

578
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:42.960
<v Speaker 5>a call. He says, Oh, our guy didn't die, let

579
00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:43.360
<v Speaker 5>he lived.

580
00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:44.880
<v Speaker 6>I went watch.

581
00:36:47.480 --> 00:36:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Officer Soto tells Hobbes of the time he was called

582
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:52.880
<v Speaker 1>to assist an assault victim who showed up at a

583
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:54.239
<v Speaker 1>local hospital.

584
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<v Speaker 3>And he had obvious ligature marked around his neck, on

585
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:01.840
<v Speaker 3>his arms and legs.

586
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:06.199
<v Speaker 1>The victim, Stanley Burden, told Soto the chilling story of

587
00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:07.639
<v Speaker 1>a man in a blue capri.

588
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:12.719
<v Speaker 3>The individual ask him if he could take naked photographs

589
00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:16.079
<v Speaker 3>of him tied to a tree for two hundred dollars.

590
00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:21.559
<v Speaker 3>Mister Burden agreed. When with the individual through the wooded area,

591
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:34.280
<v Speaker 3>the individual then attempted to sudimize him. Mister Burden stated

592
00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:39.239
<v Speaker 3>that he resisted, I was steying. The individual got angry

593
00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:39.639
<v Speaker 3>at him.

594
00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:48.760
<v Speaker 1>An approaching car scared the assailant off, leaving Burden for dead.

595
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:51.119
<v Speaker 1>Tied to a tree in the middle of nowhere.

596
00:37:54.920 --> 00:37:58.480
<v Speaker 3>He threw down a pair of flyers. Individual got into

597
00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:02.000
<v Speaker 3>his van and he drove a way. Mister Burden then

598
00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:05.480
<v Speaker 3>was able to get loose, reached for the pliers, cut

599
00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:06.440
<v Speaker 3>himself loose.

600
00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:12.760
<v Speaker 1>Burden ran out to the highway and flagged a ride

601
00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:15.440
<v Speaker 1>to the hospital. He was never able to give a

602
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:17.719
<v Speaker 1>comprehensive description of his assailants.

603
00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:22.119
<v Speaker 3>They really weren't many avenues we could have follow in

604
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:23.800
<v Speaker 3>terms of investigating the case.

605
00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:28.400
<v Speaker 1>That's as far as we could have gone. With nothing

606
00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:32.360
<v Speaker 1>more to go on, the unsolved crime went cold, was

607
00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:34.159
<v Speaker 1>filed unforgotten.

608
00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:39.679
<v Speaker 4>So given this new information from Detective Soto, he provided

609
00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:41.480
<v Speaker 4>us with the copies of the pictures and a copy

610
00:38:41.519 --> 00:38:45.239
<v Speaker 4>of the three report and gave us information on the

611
00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:47.360
<v Speaker 4>victim in that case, which turned out to be Stanley Burden.

612
00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:49.639
<v Speaker 4>We did a background on him to find out where

613
00:38:49.639 --> 00:38:54.000
<v Speaker 4>he was and he was incarcerated in Columbus, Ohio. He

614
00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:57.719
<v Speaker 4>was provided a photo lineup of Daniel Conahan in the

615
00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:01.400
<v Speaker 4>correctional institute where I interviewed him, and he immediately picked

616
00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:03.599
<v Speaker 4>him out without any hesitation whatsoever. He said, that is

617
00:39:03.639 --> 00:39:05.880
<v Speaker 4>a subject that did this to me. It's like getting

618
00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:08.159
<v Speaker 4>somebody off the autopsy table and telling you what happened

619
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:09.679
<v Speaker 4>to him. That's exactly what this guy was.

620
00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:11.039
<v Speaker 18>He was somebody that should have been killed.

621
00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:12.320
<v Speaker 4>He should have been laying in the woods with the

622
00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:14.199
<v Speaker 4>bugs eating him, and here he was sitting here telling

623
00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:15.920
<v Speaker 4>us exactly what happened to him and how he got

624
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:16.800
<v Speaker 4>Awakeness guy.

625
00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:21.559
<v Speaker 8>Daniel Conahan, you have the right to remain silent.

626
00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:26.840
<v Speaker 1>On July third, nineteen ninety six, Daniel Conahan is arrested

627
00:39:26.880 --> 00:39:29.440
<v Speaker 1>for the attempted murder of Stanley Burden.

628
00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:32.079
<v Speaker 12>Do you understand these rights that they've been read to you?

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00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:39.119
<v Speaker 5>Yes, And there was no surprise on his face when

630
00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:42.920
<v Speaker 5>myself from Jim Myers walked in and I told him

631
00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:46.679
<v Speaker 5>he was underrest. They just got in the car on

632
00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:47.239
<v Speaker 5>the way we went.

633
00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:53.679
<v Speaker 1>Police have finally caught their killer, but there's no guarantee

634
00:39:54.039 --> 00:40:04.920
<v Speaker 1>they can bring him to justice. After thirty one months

635
00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:10.159
<v Speaker 1>of intense statewide investigation, police have arrested Daniel Conahan for

636
00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:11.920
<v Speaker 1>crimes against Stanley Burton.

637
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:15.280
<v Speaker 6>We had a positive ida, we had a good statement,

638
00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:15.920
<v Speaker 6>we had.

639
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:20.760
<v Speaker 5>The evidence from the crime scene, and ended up securing

640
00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:25.480
<v Speaker 5>an arrest warrant from mister Conahan attempt to murder sexual battery.

641
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:40.880
<v Speaker 1>In Kinnappy, but with five men dead, investigators are determined

642
00:40:41.039 --> 00:40:45.320
<v Speaker 1>to nail Conahan for full blown homicide. Taking one last

643
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:48.480
<v Speaker 1>look at the case forensics, they re examined hair combings

644
00:40:48.519 --> 00:40:52.599
<v Speaker 1>from Richard Montgomery's body and find something extraordinary.

645
00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:57.519
<v Speaker 8>There appeared to be a paint chip, a small piece

646
00:40:57.599 --> 00:40:59.960
<v Speaker 8>of paint chip that was in his puba care area,

647
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:02.079
<v Speaker 8>a remaining pupic care.

648
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:06.880
<v Speaker 9>Area owner his body that was sent off along with

649
00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:09.639
<v Speaker 9>the paint chips that we obtained.

650
00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:13.639
<v Speaker 8>From the Mercury Capri to the Florida Department of All

651
00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:17.079
<v Speaker 8>Law Enforcement Crime Laboratory for analysis.

652
00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:22.760
<v Speaker 9>See if that was a match.

653
00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:28.239
<v Speaker 8>From that sample taken from the pubic area of mister Montgomery.

654
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<v Speaker 8>Was that that match in all characteristics the paint standard

655
00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:36.320
<v Speaker 8>provided from the Mercury Caprix.

656
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:41.559
<v Speaker 1>This final forensic piece of the puzzle allows prosecutors to

657
00:41:41.599 --> 00:41:45.559
<v Speaker 1>add a new charge against Conahan, the first degree murder

658
00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:51.119
<v Speaker 1>of Richard Montgomery. In court, Conahan vigorously insists he's innocent,

659
00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:54.559
<v Speaker 1>claiming that he's being real roaded simply because he's gay.

660
00:41:56.039 --> 00:41:59.039
<v Speaker 1>The prosecution's evidence accumulates quickly.

661
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:02.320
<v Speaker 11>The area was quite densely woulded a mixture of scrub

662
00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:03.400
<v Speaker 11>brashdown the.

663
00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:07.480
<v Speaker 22>Badly decomposed body of adults male things that made him

664
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:11.719
<v Speaker 22>very nervous, some rope tarp I believe a hunting knife

665
00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:12.920
<v Speaker 22>that he mentioned.

666
00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:17.039
<v Speaker 23>And as mister Conahan, the idea of a sexual sadist

667
00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:19.159
<v Speaker 23>is one who wraps.

668
00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:23.320
<v Speaker 1>And finally, for good measure, prosecutors bring out their smoking gun.

669
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<v Speaker 1>Mister Burdon, would you please show the courtroom your neck.

670
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<v Speaker 1>August seventeenth, nineteen ninety nine, after just twenty five minutes

671
00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:40.880
<v Speaker 1>of deliberation, Judge William Blackwell finds Daniel Conahan guilty of

672
00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:48.239
<v Speaker 1>kidnapping and first degree murder. He's sentenced to die. To

673
00:42:48.360 --> 00:42:53.760
<v Speaker 1>this day, Conahan insists he's innocent, but police are satisfied

674
00:42:54.199 --> 00:42:59.119
<v Speaker 1>they've got the right man. None of the photographs he's

675
00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:03.280
<v Speaker 1>believed to taken of his victims have ever been found.

676
00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:06.679
<v Speaker 10>You know, it's my opinion that Daniel connaugh hand doesn't

677
00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:11.480
<v Speaker 10>have a guilt feeling in his whole body. There is

678
00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:14.440
<v Speaker 10>no remorse. None has ever been shown that I'm aware of.

679
00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:23.599
<v Speaker 10>This is a man that enjoyed the pain, the suffering

680
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:28.840
<v Speaker 10>and the death of other individuals, human beings. Why he

681
00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:34.599
<v Speaker 10>did this, I don't know if we'll ever know, And.

682
00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:39.760
<v Speaker 1>As Conahan sits on death row awaiting his fate, authorities

683
00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:43.920
<v Speaker 1>still wonder how many more victims are yet to be found.

684
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Along the Hog Trails of Charlotte County, California is Just

685
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:05.800
<v Speaker 1>National Park, a spectacular wildlife sanctuary that attracts millions of

686
00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:07.719
<v Speaker 1>nature lovers every year.

687
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:12.960
<v Speaker 24>Nobody thinks bad things happen in places like.

688
00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:20.159
<v Speaker 1>This, but this year would prove otherwise. In February of

689
00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:24.119
<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety nine, Carol's son, her daughter, and a family

690
00:44:24.239 --> 00:44:34.039
<v Speaker 1>friend visit Yosemite. Still they spend the fourteenth and fifteenth

691
00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:38.239
<v Speaker 1>hiking and seeing the sights, returning each night to their motel.

692
00:44:40.760 --> 00:44:43.320
<v Speaker 1>They are scheduled to meet up with Carol's husband the

693
00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:50.880
<v Speaker 1>morning of the sixteenth cod but they would never make it.

694
00:44:56.599 --> 00:44:58.519
<v Speaker 1>Three missing women.

695
00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:03.360
<v Speaker 13>Those as if they had fallen off the face of

696
00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:05.920
<v Speaker 13>the area, a death research.

697
00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:08.760
<v Speaker 23>There were no clear clues as to what had happened

698
00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:09.760
<v Speaker 23>to these people.

699
00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:13.000
<v Speaker 1>A disappearance that shocks America.

700
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:19.360
<v Speaker 24>It's probably the strangest and one of the most chilling

701
00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:22.400
<v Speaker 24>cases I've ever covered in my twenty years as a journalist.

702
00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:26.519
<v Speaker 1>It puts police on the trail of a master manipulator

703
00:45:26.920 --> 00:46:16.000
<v Speaker 1>determined to outsmart them. Carol's son, her fifteen year old

704
00:46:16.119 --> 00:46:20.639
<v Speaker 1>daughter Julie, and family friend Sylvina Paloso have failed to

705
00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:24.280
<v Speaker 1>show up for a rendezvous with Carol's husband ends at

706
00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:25.840
<v Speaker 1>the San Francisco Airport.

707
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:32.480
<v Speaker 24>Carol's son was the type of person who kept to

708
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:34.960
<v Speaker 24>a very strict calendar. She was someone who was always

709
00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:37.079
<v Speaker 24>on time where she was supposed to be when she

710
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:38.159
<v Speaker 24>was supposed to be there.

711
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:49.239
<v Speaker 1>The anxious husband and father calls room five oh nine

712
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:52.360
<v Speaker 1>of the Cedar Lodge motel where the women were staying.

713
00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:03.760
<v Speaker 1>After failed attempts to reach them, He contacts local authorities.

714
00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:12.000
<v Speaker 13>The hotel room was found in a typical state of

715
00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:16.360
<v Speaker 13>someone who left their hotel room that had two double beds,

716
00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:19.039
<v Speaker 13>and the double beds had appeared to be slept in

717
00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:22.280
<v Speaker 13>and unmade. There were bath towels that were wet and

718
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:25.039
<v Speaker 13>used on the floor and on the rack. There was

719
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:27.199
<v Speaker 13>nothing really remarkable about the room.

720
00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:36.119
<v Speaker 1>Investigators quickly discovered that Carol's son's rental car is gone

721
00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:44.119
<v Speaker 1>and it hasn't been returned to the agency. Police have

722
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:47.800
<v Speaker 1>room five h nine sealed as a precaution but with

723
00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:53.039
<v Speaker 1>no apparent signs of foul play, they consider other possibilities.

724
00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:58.239
<v Speaker 18>The theory that was most predominant would be they had

725
00:47:58.280 --> 00:47:59.079
<v Speaker 18>a car accident.

726
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:04.599
<v Speaker 24>It was wintertime, the roads were slick, there had been snow.

727
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:11.239
<v Speaker 25>We have had numerous vehicles that have gone off our roadways.

728
00:48:12.440 --> 00:48:16.119
<v Speaker 25>We have had several deaths, so that is a very

729
00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:18.119
<v Speaker 25>realistic possibility.

730
00:48:18.639 --> 00:48:22.599
<v Speaker 1>Agencies across the state joined forces to scour the vast

731
00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:27.960
<v Speaker 1>forested area around Yosemite. At the same time, police visit mister.

732
00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:33.159
<v Speaker 18>Son aast have a few questions about you.

733
00:48:33.639 --> 00:48:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Investigators press Son for any information that might help explain

734
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:38.719
<v Speaker 1>his wife's disappearance.

735
00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:40.280
<v Speaker 18>No problems, no quarrels.

736
00:48:41.039 --> 00:48:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Could marital difficulties lie at the heart of things, police

737
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:50.400
<v Speaker 1>think not.

738
00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:54.079
<v Speaker 23>There was not a lot of weight given to the

739
00:48:54.119 --> 00:48:58.199
<v Speaker 23>possibility that Carol would have simply disappeared of her own accord,

740
00:48:58.320 --> 00:49:00.480
<v Speaker 23>in part because she was traveling with the two girls,

741
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:03.000
<v Speaker 23>and she had left behind her other children with YenS,

742
00:49:03.320 --> 00:49:06.400
<v Speaker 23>and everything that we were learning about Carol suggested that

743
00:49:06.519 --> 00:49:10.679
<v Speaker 23>she was a dedicated mother and a responsible person.

744
00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:18.400
<v Speaker 1>With the clock ticking and still no sign of Carol's

745
00:49:18.400 --> 00:49:22.559
<v Speaker 1>son's car, police worry about finding the women in time.

746
00:49:23.280 --> 00:49:27.480
<v Speaker 18>It was just a dramatic, intense need to find these

747
00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:31.639
<v Speaker 18>people before something you know, permanent, had happened to them.

748
00:49:33.480 --> 00:49:37.360
<v Speaker 24>Days had passed and there had been large search parties

749
00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:41.400
<v Speaker 24>searching for any clues, and nothing was coming up.

750
00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:47.599
<v Speaker 1>Could something have been missed at the Cedar Lodge? The

751
00:49:47.800 --> 00:49:52.320
<v Speaker 1>FBI takes charge of the case, sending special agents Chris

752
00:49:52.400 --> 00:50:00.079
<v Speaker 1>Hopkins and Jeff Reinick to visit the motel together. Did

753
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:02.039
<v Speaker 1>they assess Room five oh nine.

754
00:50:03.800 --> 00:50:08.280
<v Speaker 13>We had a missing blanket, a missing pillowcase, items left

755
00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:12.440
<v Speaker 13>behind in the rooms, but we didn't find any significant

756
00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:14.840
<v Speaker 13>evidence to say this is in fact a crime scene.

757
00:50:18.920 --> 00:50:23.000
<v Speaker 1>The FBI now turns its attention to guests and staff.

758
00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:28.280
<v Speaker 23>We were working at the Cedar Lodge, interviewing employees, interviewing

759
00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:31.039
<v Speaker 23>hotel guests, trying to do the best thing could to

760
00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:33.440
<v Speaker 23>find out whether or not anything had happened there.

761
00:50:33.760 --> 00:50:37.599
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember anything from these interviews? Agent Nick Rossi

762
00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:44.400
<v Speaker 1>pieces together a rough timeline. A park ranger remembers seeing

763
00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:48.440
<v Speaker 1>the women over the course of two days. They appeared

764
00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:49.840
<v Speaker 1>to be having a great time.

765
00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:55.360
<v Speaker 23>They had their first excursion in the park on February fourteenth.

766
00:50:56.519 --> 00:50:59.000
<v Speaker 23>They returned to the park on February fifteenth.

767
00:50:59.599 --> 00:51:02.320
<v Speaker 13>We had witnesses at the Cedar Lodge that saw them

768
00:51:02.679 --> 00:51:05.639
<v Speaker 13>eating their dinner there on February fifteenth.

769
00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:09.280
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember the waitresses served them? Recalls the trio

770
00:51:09.480 --> 00:51:11.239
<v Speaker 1>was in high spirits.

771
00:51:11.199 --> 00:51:12.079
<v Speaker 16>Hi go Hi.

772
00:51:12.360 --> 00:51:15.760
<v Speaker 13>The family also rented two videos from the front desk.

773
00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, You're welcome.

774
00:51:17.639 --> 00:51:20.559
<v Speaker 23>And the last time they were seen alive was said

775
00:51:20.639 --> 00:51:24.760
<v Speaker 23>approximately seven thirty or so in the evening on February fifteenth.

776
00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:35.280
<v Speaker 1>For all the FBI's questions, no unusual behavior, strange encounters,

777
00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:41.119
<v Speaker 1>or anything untoward concerning the women is reported. Then agents

778
00:51:41.239 --> 00:51:44.960
<v Speaker 1>learned that someone besides Carol's son had access to room

779
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:48.960
<v Speaker 1>five oh nine before she and the girls disappeared. They

780
00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:51.559
<v Speaker 1>take the motel locksmith into custody.

781
00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:55.320
<v Speaker 23>They had re keyed the locks on the door for

782
00:51:55.519 --> 00:52:03.639
<v Speaker 23>Carol's hotel room. This individual had him brother who worked

783
00:52:03.679 --> 00:52:07.480
<v Speaker 23>at another nearby hotel, who had a prior conviction for

784
00:52:08.199 --> 00:52:10.000
<v Speaker 23>sexual assault on children.

785
00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:15.599
<v Speaker 1>The employee claims his innocence and agrees to a polygraph.

786
00:52:16.559 --> 00:52:19.760
<v Speaker 1>While it's being administered, Hopkins pays a second visit to

787
00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:20.760
<v Speaker 1>the motel.

788
00:52:25.119 --> 00:52:28.079
<v Speaker 13>And again we didn't find any significant evidence.

789
00:52:29.519 --> 00:52:34.599
<v Speaker 1>The room is clean, maybe too clean, and when the

790
00:52:34.679 --> 00:52:39.320
<v Speaker 1>polygraph reveals no evidence of deceit. Agents are forced to

791
00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:41.880
<v Speaker 1>release their first and only suspect.

792
00:52:44.800 --> 00:52:48.880
<v Speaker 13>After February fifteenth, there was no established timeline. It was

793
00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:50.639
<v Speaker 13>as if they had fallen off the face.

794
00:52:50.440 --> 00:52:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Of the earth.

795
00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:59.159
<v Speaker 1>Authorities find themselves back at square one, unaware that the

796
00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:14.760
<v Speaker 1>case is about to take an alarming turn. Carol's son,

797
00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:18.840
<v Speaker 1>her daughter Julie, and family friend Sylvina Paloso have been

798
00:53:18.920 --> 00:53:23.519
<v Speaker 1>missing for three days. Search Base Team six search and

799
00:53:23.639 --> 00:53:28.000
<v Speaker 1>rescue operations have yielded nothing, nor has an FBI investigation

800
00:53:28.199 --> 00:53:36.639
<v Speaker 1>into possible foul flight. But now one hundred miles away

801
00:53:36.719 --> 00:53:39.760
<v Speaker 1>in the city of Modesto, the case is turned on

802
00:53:39.880 --> 00:53:42.559
<v Speaker 1>its head when a student finds a wallet at a

803
00:53:42.679 --> 00:53:48.880
<v Speaker 1>downtown intersection inside is ID belonging to Carol's son.

804
00:53:51.559 --> 00:53:55.400
<v Speaker 23>Once the wallet was found in Modesto, it opened a

805
00:53:55.480 --> 00:53:59.960
<v Speaker 23>whole new range of possibilities, everything from a possible car

806
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:04.079
<v Speaker 23>jacking to a kidnapping. There were lots of different theories

807
00:54:04.159 --> 00:54:05.400
<v Speaker 23>about what may have happened.

808
00:54:08.880 --> 00:54:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Theories collide with reality when a car is pulled over

809
00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:17.159
<v Speaker 1>for a missing license plate. The vehicle belongs to Modesto

810
00:54:17.320 --> 00:54:19.000
<v Speaker 1>resident Michael Larwick.

811
00:54:27.519 --> 00:54:32.519
<v Speaker 23>It was a routine traffic stop, and the question that

812
00:54:32.599 --> 00:54:35.880
<v Speaker 23>it begs is why did Larwick react the way he did.

813
00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Larwick is arrested after an eighteen hours standoff at his house,

814
00:54:51.559 --> 00:54:56.320
<v Speaker 1>and while he's in custody, police receive an anonymous.

815
00:54:55.719 --> 00:54:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Tip Yeah Russia.

816
00:54:58.239 --> 00:55:00.519
<v Speaker 1>The caller tells them to take a close look at

817
00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:04.239
<v Speaker 1>Larwick and his half brother Eugene Dikes in connection with

818
00:55:04.360 --> 00:55:06.000
<v Speaker 1>the sun Puloso disappearance.

819
00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:08.800
<v Speaker 18>And they were very good suspects. They had a lot

820
00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:11.960
<v Speaker 18>of assaults, they had a lot of sexual assaults, kidnappings.

821
00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:15.480
<v Speaker 23>Mister Dikes was in custody at the time that Mick

822
00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:19.280
<v Speaker 23>Larwick was engaged in his shootout with police because he

823
00:55:19.559 --> 00:55:24.599
<v Speaker 23>had just recently been arrested for possession of a firearm.

824
00:55:25.559 --> 00:55:30.360
<v Speaker 18>So they fit all the criteria that this investigation originally needed.

825
00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:35.199
<v Speaker 1>The investigation suddenly has two prime suspects. I need to

826
00:55:35.280 --> 00:55:38.280
<v Speaker 1>know where these women are. Larwick and Dykes are subjected

827
00:55:38.360 --> 00:55:42.840
<v Speaker 1>to NonStop interrogation by FBI agent. We're desperate to find.

828
00:55:42.599 --> 00:55:44.599
<v Speaker 12>The women alive and you don't know anything about it.

829
00:55:45.199 --> 00:55:49.719
<v Speaker 1>Larwick is uncooperative, No, I don't remember, and denies any involved.

830
00:55:49.840 --> 00:55:50.880
<v Speaker 24>That's not good enough.

831
00:55:51.719 --> 00:55:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Now where are they? But after hours of grilling, Dyke

832
00:55:55.400 --> 00:55:58.559
<v Speaker 1>starts telling a different story where.

833
00:55:59.400 --> 00:56:04.599
<v Speaker 18>That's when Dyke's first began speaking of what he claimed

834
00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:06.079
<v Speaker 18>was his involvement.

835
00:56:05.679 --> 00:56:06.360
<v Speaker 9>In this case.

836
00:56:08.800 --> 00:56:12.599
<v Speaker 1>Eventually, Dike signs a confession admitting his participation in the

837
00:56:12.639 --> 00:56:19.199
<v Speaker 1>women's disappearance. But what he doesn't tell investigators is what

838
00:56:19.360 --> 00:56:24.719
<v Speaker 1>they most want to know. Where is the missing mother

839
00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:26.559
<v Speaker 1>and two teenage girls.

840
00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:31.679
<v Speaker 9>Post Law.

841
00:56:33.320 --> 00:56:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Agent Hopkins vacuums Larwick's car looking for physical evidence tying

842
00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:39.440
<v Speaker 1>the half brothers to the crime.

843
00:56:41.119 --> 00:56:45.039
<v Speaker 13>The FBI laboratory found Harrison fibers, one of which was

844
00:56:45.079 --> 00:56:46.440
<v Speaker 13>an orange chrolic fiber.

845
00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, no matching hairs or fibers are recovered from room

846
00:56:53.559 --> 00:57:00.920
<v Speaker 1>five h nine of the Cedar Lodge. Then, on March eighteenth,

847
00:57:01.400 --> 00:57:05.519
<v Speaker 1>one hundred miles away from Modesto, in remote woods beyond

848
00:57:05.559 --> 00:57:09.679
<v Speaker 1>the town of Longbarn, a hiker makes a chilling discovery.

849
00:57:11.760 --> 00:57:15.559
<v Speaker 25>He noticed that the vehicle was badly burned, but he

850
00:57:15.679 --> 00:57:18.639
<v Speaker 25>went down and got the license plate from the vehicle

851
00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:23.519
<v Speaker 25>and called it into the California Highway Patrol. Then ran

852
00:57:23.599 --> 00:57:26.920
<v Speaker 25>the license plate and immediately realized it was Carol's son's

853
00:57:27.000 --> 00:57:27.719
<v Speaker 25>missing vehicle.

854
00:57:32.360 --> 00:57:35.559
<v Speaker 13>There was no original surface remaining on the car. On

855
00:57:35.639 --> 00:57:38.519
<v Speaker 13>the interior of the car and the exterior of the car,

856
00:57:39.719 --> 00:57:42.639
<v Speaker 13>all the paint had boiled off and rolled off the

857
00:57:42.719 --> 00:57:46.400
<v Speaker 13>frame of the car. The seats had all been burnt up.

858
00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:51.280
<v Speaker 13>I could see through the passenger compartment into the trunk compartment.

859
00:57:51.920 --> 00:57:53.159
<v Speaker 2>Let's try and get in the trunk.

860
00:57:57.000 --> 00:58:01.360
<v Speaker 13>And mucallin opening the truck that we had remains of

861
00:58:01.599 --> 00:58:02.559
<v Speaker 13>human beings.

862
00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:10.599
<v Speaker 1>Destraught. When they discover charred remains in the trunk of

863
00:58:10.760 --> 00:58:12.119
<v Speaker 1>carol Son's rental car.

864
00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:18.800
<v Speaker 25>I have seen lots of burned bodies, but I have

865
00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:23.119
<v Speaker 25>not seen anything to the extent that was involved in

866
00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:23.599
<v Speaker 25>this case.

867
00:58:26.000 --> 00:58:27.599
<v Speaker 9>There was not a lot left.

868
00:58:27.719 --> 00:58:30.840
<v Speaker 25>It wasn't like looking at a normal body that you

869
00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:35.280
<v Speaker 25>would find because the intense heat had destroyed most of

870
00:58:35.320 --> 00:58:35.679
<v Speaker 25>the body.

871
00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:40.119
<v Speaker 13>It was clear that we have a homicide case working out.

872
00:58:42.239 --> 00:58:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Authorities want answers. The car itself offers the first disturbing clue.

873
00:58:50.239 --> 00:58:54.599
<v Speaker 13>We could tell that this vehicle was intended to be burned.

874
00:58:55.199 --> 00:58:59.719
<v Speaker 13>The passenger rear door was left a jar so that

875
00:58:59.840 --> 00:59:03.880
<v Speaker 13>it would create event so that it would help oxygenate

876
00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:04.400
<v Speaker 13>the fire.

877
00:59:06.159 --> 00:59:08.280
<v Speaker 23>They had placed the bodies in the truck. They had

878
00:59:08.519 --> 00:59:11.400
<v Speaker 23>taken the effort to douse the car with some kind

879
00:59:11.440 --> 00:59:14.119
<v Speaker 23>of flammable material and then set in a blaze.

880
00:59:20.039 --> 00:59:22.599
<v Speaker 13>The heat of the fire was so intense that picking

881
00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:26.519
<v Speaker 13>up some of their remains, their skeletal remains, the bones

882
00:59:26.519 --> 00:59:28.559
<v Speaker 13>would just turned to dust in our hands.

883
00:59:34.599 --> 00:59:38.679
<v Speaker 1>As the investigation continues in the field, the remains arrive

884
00:59:38.840 --> 00:59:44.239
<v Speaker 1>at the morgue for positive identification. Pathologists analyze the many fragments,

885
00:59:44.679 --> 00:59:48.159
<v Speaker 1>paying special attention to the teeth we.

886
00:59:48.599 --> 00:59:51.079
<v Speaker 13>Had already in our possession. The dental records were Carol

887
00:59:51.119 --> 00:59:55.920
<v Speaker 13>and Julie's sun. We took the dental records to a

888
00:59:55.960 --> 01:00:00.679
<v Speaker 13>forensical ontologist and the forensicalontologists identified one of our victims

889
01:00:00.760 --> 01:00:01.400
<v Speaker 13>was Carol's son.

890
01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:08.559
<v Speaker 1>Forensic experts also have the means to identify Sylvina Paloso.

891
01:00:10.119 --> 01:00:14.440
<v Speaker 25>We had DNA samples taken from her parents. They had

892
01:00:14.719 --> 01:00:17.199
<v Speaker 25>come had flown up to our area.

893
01:00:18.920 --> 01:00:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Authorities at the crime scene retrieved some evidence when they

894
01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:28.079
<v Speaker 1>find a girl's running shoot and something even more compelling.

895
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:32.679
<v Speaker 13>In doing the search around the vehicle, we found additional

896
01:00:32.760 --> 01:00:36.400
<v Speaker 13>evidence to include Carol's purse and her fanny pack that

897
01:00:36.519 --> 01:00:37.519
<v Speaker 13>had cameras in it.

898
01:00:38.480 --> 01:00:44.159
<v Speaker 1>Investigators puzzle over their killer's profile. Was he sloppy or devious?

899
01:00:44.840 --> 01:00:47.000
<v Speaker 23>This was a person who had gone to some lengths

900
01:00:47.800 --> 01:00:52.599
<v Speaker 23>to destroy evidence of their crime. And yet this was

901
01:00:52.639 --> 01:00:56.079
<v Speaker 23>someone who had not gone to the pains of collecting

902
01:00:56.159 --> 01:00:58.599
<v Speaker 23>and destroying other evidence that was found nearby.

903
01:01:00.039 --> 01:01:03.079
<v Speaker 1>But all speculation is set aside when word comes back

904
01:01:03.119 --> 01:01:07.039
<v Speaker 1>from the morgue. It turns out only two of the

905
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:11.639
<v Speaker 1>victims were in the car. Julie's sun is still on account.

906
01:01:14.440 --> 01:01:17.719
<v Speaker 18>Knowing that she may be alive and in pain or suffering.

907
01:01:19.960 --> 01:01:22.239
<v Speaker 18>I don't know how to describe what it does to you.

908
01:01:26.960 --> 01:01:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Every available police resource is put towards finding the fifteen

909
01:01:31.000 --> 01:01:31.639
<v Speaker 1>year old girl.

910
01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:34.920
<v Speaker 23>We were still holding on to that slim string of

911
01:01:35.000 --> 01:01:36.880
<v Speaker 23>hope that she might be found alive.

912
01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:43.119
<v Speaker 1>Agents used the detail that the torch car was found

913
01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:46.159
<v Speaker 1>in such a remote location to try and zero in

914
01:01:46.280 --> 01:01:48.559
<v Speaker 1>on the killer's mo and.

915
01:01:48.639 --> 01:01:52.519
<v Speaker 23>The fact that they had destroyed their means of transportation

916
01:01:53.079 --> 01:01:56.440
<v Speaker 23>suggested to us that there may have been some other vehicle.

917
01:01:57.159 --> 01:01:59.559
<v Speaker 23>That of course suggested the possibility that there may have

918
01:01:59.599 --> 01:02:04.079
<v Speaker 23>been one person, someone to drive the victim's car and

919
01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:06.880
<v Speaker 23>set out a blaze, and someone else to follow and

920
01:02:07.079 --> 01:02:11.280
<v Speaker 23>provide a getaway. It suggested this was someone who knew

921
01:02:11.320 --> 01:02:11.719
<v Speaker 23>the area.

922
01:02:13.960 --> 01:02:16.639
<v Speaker 1>The prime suspects fit the bill precisely.

923
01:02:17.920 --> 01:02:22.360
<v Speaker 23>We learned that Larwick had actually resided not far from

924
01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:24.880
<v Speaker 23>the location where the victim's car had been found. In fact,

925
01:02:24.920 --> 01:02:29.000
<v Speaker 23>he had committed a crime not far from where the

926
01:02:29.079 --> 01:02:31.079
<v Speaker 23>victim's car had been found, and so there were little

927
01:02:31.079 --> 01:02:35.079
<v Speaker 23>pieces of information that they may have been involved.

928
01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:41.679
<v Speaker 1>But despite relentless interrogation, which results in statements from Dykes

929
01:02:41.719 --> 01:02:45.239
<v Speaker 1>that he participated in the murders, FEDS can't get anything

930
01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:50.000
<v Speaker 1>concrete out of their prisoners that's not true. Then, on

931
01:02:50.199 --> 01:02:55.119
<v Speaker 1>March twenty fourth, a letter postmarked shortly after the women's disappearance,

932
01:02:55.639 --> 01:03:01.199
<v Speaker 1>arrives at FBI headquarters. It contains a map and distressing message.

933
01:03:02.039 --> 01:03:07.480
<v Speaker 23>We had fun with this one, I mean the statement

934
01:03:07.559 --> 01:03:10.199
<v Speaker 23>itself is one of those that makes you sick to hear,

935
01:03:10.719 --> 01:03:14.000
<v Speaker 23>and it suggested that this was someone who took some

936
01:03:14.159 --> 01:03:15.599
<v Speaker 23>satisfaction in their crime.

937
01:03:19.320 --> 01:03:23.159
<v Speaker 1>The map leads to a remote overlook known as Vista Point,

938
01:03:23.760 --> 01:03:30.280
<v Speaker 1>only a short drive from the Cedar Lodge motel. It's

939
01:03:30.360 --> 01:03:34.199
<v Speaker 1>here that the investigator's worst fears are realized.

940
01:03:36.039 --> 01:03:41.199
<v Speaker 13>We went down the hill to recover julie'sun's body. She

941
01:03:41.719 --> 01:03:46.199
<v Speaker 13>was naked other than a two inch black duct tape

942
01:03:46.480 --> 01:03:51.320
<v Speaker 13>wrapped around her left ankle. The duct type indicates that

943
01:03:51.639 --> 01:03:54.400
<v Speaker 13>this victim had been bound up with the duct tape

944
01:03:54.440 --> 01:03:59.400
<v Speaker 13>and kept hostage her heroes fanned out. Her right leg

945
01:03:59.880 --> 01:04:02.599
<v Speaker 13>was spread apart from her left leg, and her left

946
01:04:02.679 --> 01:04:05.639
<v Speaker 13>leg was bent forward, and her hands were crossed over

947
01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:06.199
<v Speaker 13>her chest.

948
01:04:07.920 --> 01:04:12.239
<v Speaker 18>It appeared that she had been posed, and a person

949
01:04:12.599 --> 01:04:16.119
<v Speaker 18>who has been posed in death by an offender indicates

950
01:04:16.199 --> 01:04:20.039
<v Speaker 18>an offender who sexually motivated and who has a fantasy

951
01:04:20.119 --> 01:04:21.760
<v Speaker 18>which is very dangerous for other people.

952
01:04:24.079 --> 01:04:27.679
<v Speaker 13>There was a very large lava mass on Julie's neck,

953
01:04:28.039 --> 01:04:31.599
<v Speaker 13>which indicated to me immediately as her neck had been cut.

954
01:04:33.360 --> 01:04:38.480
<v Speaker 24>When they discovered Julie's body, it became even more sinister

955
01:04:38.719 --> 01:04:43.360
<v Speaker 24>than everybody originally thought. I mean, it was horrible when

956
01:04:43.400 --> 01:04:47.000
<v Speaker 24>they found Carol and Salvina their charred remains in the

957
01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:50.239
<v Speaker 24>trunk of their rental car, But when they found Julie

958
01:04:50.320 --> 01:04:53.760
<v Speaker 24>in the position she was, I think people started thinking

959
01:04:53.960 --> 01:04:57.679
<v Speaker 24>serial killer, started thinking, you know, this is just a

960
01:04:57.800 --> 01:04:59.880
<v Speaker 24>crime that's bigger than we ever thought.

961
01:05:00.719 --> 01:05:04.440
<v Speaker 1>The forensic analysis of the crime scene provides investigators with

962
01:05:04.559 --> 01:05:06.599
<v Speaker 1>a surprising piece of material.

963
01:05:06.960 --> 01:05:10.280
<v Speaker 13>That orange crolic fiber was on Julie's son's.

964
01:05:10.239 --> 01:05:15.360
<v Speaker 23>Body consistent with originating from the same source as fibers

965
01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:19.000
<v Speaker 23>that were found among the belongings of Larwick and Dykes.

966
01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Authorities finally have physical evidence linking the half brothers to

967
01:05:23.920 --> 01:05:28.599
<v Speaker 1>the son Paloso murders. Tying them to the anonymous letter

968
01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:30.159
<v Speaker 1>will seal their fate.

969
01:05:32.519 --> 01:05:36.960
<v Speaker 13>The fingerprint expert found what he thought was a right

970
01:05:37.079 --> 01:05:42.440
<v Speaker 13>thumb partial print on the stamp that overlapped onto the envelope.

971
01:05:42.880 --> 01:05:45.760
<v Speaker 1>But their attempt to connect the partial print to Larwick

972
01:05:45.840 --> 01:05:51.719
<v Speaker 1>or Dyke's fails. No match is found. FBI DNA expert

973
01:05:51.840 --> 01:05:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Melissa Smears now extracts DNA from saliva on the envelope seal.

974
01:05:58.159 --> 01:06:00.639
<v Speaker 20>With regards to the DNA that was attained on the

975
01:06:00.840 --> 01:06:03.559
<v Speaker 20>envelope in this case, I was able to determine that

976
01:06:03.679 --> 01:06:05.119
<v Speaker 20>male DNA was present.

977
01:06:05.880 --> 01:06:09.679
<v Speaker 1>She compares this DNA with samples taken from the half brothers,

978
01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:20.239
<v Speaker 1>but once again investigators received shocking news it doesn't match

979
01:06:20.519 --> 01:06:23.960
<v Speaker 1>either one of them. The weight of the evidence now

980
01:06:24.119 --> 01:06:28.039
<v Speaker 1>suggests that police have been focused on the wrong suspects.

981
01:06:28.800 --> 01:06:31.280
<v Speaker 18>I believe they were playing with the people that were

982
01:06:31.320 --> 01:06:35.480
<v Speaker 18>investigating them, and they both got really good treatment for

983
01:06:35.719 --> 01:06:40.199
<v Speaker 18>at least ten weeks while they were being interviewed and reinterviewed,

984
01:06:40.440 --> 01:06:43.280
<v Speaker 18>and took an opportunity to send authority on a wild

985
01:06:43.360 --> 01:06:45.000
<v Speaker 18>goose chase and had a good time doing it.

986
01:06:48.679 --> 01:07:07.119
<v Speaker 1>That means a killer may still be out there. Three

987
01:07:07.239 --> 01:07:11.559
<v Speaker 1>women have been brutally murdered near Yosemite National Park, and

988
01:07:11.679 --> 01:07:15.519
<v Speaker 1>the case police have built against their prime suspects, Michael

989
01:07:15.599 --> 01:07:20.719
<v Speaker 1>Larwick and Eugene Dykes falters when compelling forensic evidence much

990
01:07:21.840 --> 01:07:28.239
<v Speaker 1>suggests some other killer investigators pour over the case looking

991
01:07:28.320 --> 01:07:32.199
<v Speaker 1>for new leads. Jeff Reinick turns to the role of

992
01:07:32.360 --> 01:07:36.239
<v Speaker 1>film found near Carol's sons burnt out rental car, hoping

993
01:07:36.360 --> 01:07:39.400
<v Speaker 1>to learn more about how the women spent their final hours.

994
01:07:41.920 --> 01:07:46.639
<v Speaker 18>The photos were of Julie and Sylvina being girls, and

995
01:07:46.880 --> 01:07:52.079
<v Speaker 18>Carol being there as the parents enjoying this moment with

996
01:07:52.199 --> 01:07:53.239
<v Speaker 18>their daughter and her friend.

997
01:07:54.159 --> 01:07:57.400
<v Speaker 1>But of greater interest to Reinick is the time stamps

998
01:07:57.440 --> 01:08:00.840
<v Speaker 1>on the back of the pictures, especially the last one.

999
01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:06.480
<v Speaker 23>Those roles of film allowed us to say, you know,

1000
01:08:06.559 --> 01:08:09.719
<v Speaker 23>with relative certainty that they had been alive and well

1001
01:08:09.800 --> 01:08:12.039
<v Speaker 23>and in their room at roughly ten thirty in the

1002
01:08:12.119 --> 01:08:14.199
<v Speaker 23>evening on February fifteenth.

1003
01:08:19.359 --> 01:08:23.159
<v Speaker 1>Authorities re examined the victim's remains in a frantic search

1004
01:08:23.239 --> 01:08:28.199
<v Speaker 1>for answers. Remarkably, Carol's son's stomach survived the fire.

1005
01:08:29.199 --> 01:08:34.439
<v Speaker 13>They found evidence of starchy material broccoli cauliflower, which was

1006
01:08:34.600 --> 01:08:38.359
<v Speaker 13>very interesting because we knew on February fifteenth that evening

1007
01:08:38.439 --> 01:08:41.920
<v Speaker 13>that eaten a meal at the Cedar Lodge, and Carol

1008
01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:47.680
<v Speaker 13>had ordered a vegetarian burrito. The stomach contents suggested to

1009
01:08:47.800 --> 01:08:51.760
<v Speaker 13>me that carolsn met with her death within hours after

1010
01:08:52.079 --> 01:08:53.880
<v Speaker 13>eating the burrito that she had purchased.

1011
01:08:58.720 --> 01:09:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Investigators realized that Carol at least met her death at

1012
01:09:03.079 --> 01:09:08.359
<v Speaker 1>or in close proximity to the Cedar Launch. They immediately

1013
01:09:08.479 --> 01:09:11.720
<v Speaker 1>returned to the motel and soon have a new suspect

1014
01:09:11.840 --> 01:09:12.439
<v Speaker 1>in custody.

1015
01:09:14.039 --> 01:09:17.920
<v Speaker 23>It was the night cleaning man at the hotel's restaurant.

1016
01:09:20.279 --> 01:09:22.720
<v Speaker 23>He had come on duty late the night that the

1017
01:09:22.920 --> 01:09:26.920
<v Speaker 23>victims were last seen alive and really had no one

1018
01:09:26.960 --> 01:09:31.119
<v Speaker 23>who could account for his whereabouts late that evening until

1019
01:09:31.359 --> 01:09:34.880
<v Speaker 23>early the next morning. A search that was done of

1020
01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:41.000
<v Speaker 23>his workplace revealed two laundry bags that tested positive for blood.

1021
01:09:45.239 --> 01:09:53.119
<v Speaker 18>He was very adversarial, very belligerent, very uncooperative with law enforcement.

1022
01:09:57.479 --> 01:10:04.279
<v Speaker 1>Authorities. Are finally closing in on their killer, or so

1023
01:10:04.520 --> 01:10:09.960
<v Speaker 1>they think. On the morning of July twenty second, a

1024
01:10:10.079 --> 01:10:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Yosemite Park ranger stops by the cabin of twenty six

1025
01:10:13.680 --> 01:10:18.000
<v Speaker 1>year old Joey Armstrong after friends reported her failure to

1026
01:10:18.079 --> 01:10:19.600
<v Speaker 1>meet them the previous evening.

1027
01:10:26.319 --> 01:10:29.760
<v Speaker 13>Inside the cabin, she could see that a tremendous struggle

1028
01:10:29.800 --> 01:10:30.359
<v Speaker 13>took place.

1029
01:10:40.960 --> 01:10:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Investigators recover fingerprints and trace evidence, but it's the area

1030
01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:49.600
<v Speaker 1>outside Armstrong's cabin that offers the most intriguing clues.

1031
01:10:51.039 --> 01:10:55.680
<v Speaker 13>We identified tire tread marks and shoe wear impressions in

1032
01:10:55.800 --> 01:10:56.239
<v Speaker 13>the sand.

1033
01:11:00.479 --> 01:11:04.279
<v Speaker 1>Mark Fincher mixed drawings of the two distinct tire treads

1034
01:11:04.359 --> 01:11:08.399
<v Speaker 1>found at the scene. He also notes a clear impression

1035
01:11:08.479 --> 01:11:15.000
<v Speaker 1>of a man's sandal. The depth and trajectory of the

1036
01:11:15.079 --> 01:11:19.319
<v Speaker 1>footprint impressions suggest that Joey was dragged to a nearby vehicle.

1037
01:11:23.399 --> 01:11:28.279
<v Speaker 1>As they follow the tire tracks, investigators encounter more scuffed footprints,

1038
01:11:29.039 --> 01:11:33.159
<v Speaker 1>indicating that someone had exited the vehicle and been dragged away.

1039
01:11:35.720 --> 01:11:41.199
<v Speaker 1>The prints continued to a nearby creek, where a grizzly

1040
01:11:41.359 --> 01:11:42.800
<v Speaker 1>find awaits.

1041
01:11:48.680 --> 01:11:51.840
<v Speaker 13>And she had been placed up against the reeds and

1042
01:11:52.119 --> 01:11:57.960
<v Speaker 13>concealed with vegetation. It struck me immediately that the position

1043
01:11:58.239 --> 01:12:02.079
<v Speaker 13>of her body was almost identical as the position that

1044
01:12:02.199 --> 01:12:04.399
<v Speaker 13>we recovered Julie Sunden.

1045
01:12:05.279 --> 01:12:08.760
<v Speaker 23>It triggered a concern, a fear that perhaps these cases

1046
01:12:08.840 --> 01:12:09.600
<v Speaker 23>may be connected.

1047
01:12:10.640 --> 01:12:14.560
<v Speaker 13>There was evidence of a sexual assault, or pants had

1048
01:12:14.600 --> 01:12:17.319
<v Speaker 13>been unbuttoned and on zipped, her shirt had been pulled up.

1049
01:12:17.760 --> 01:12:22.199
<v Speaker 1>Most shocking of all is that Joey Armstrong has been decapitated.

1050
01:12:26.439 --> 01:12:30.479
<v Speaker 24>Joey Armstrong was a naturalist, and she took young children

1051
01:12:30.520 --> 01:12:33.199
<v Speaker 24>who were visiting the park on nature hikes and taught

1052
01:12:33.279 --> 01:12:36.199
<v Speaker 24>them about the plants and the animals.

1053
01:12:37.079 --> 01:12:37.920
<v Speaker 9>I was dumbstruck.

1054
01:12:38.079 --> 01:12:42.560
<v Speaker 23>I mean I was devastated and this was another tragic crime.

1055
01:12:45.039 --> 01:12:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Authorities scour the crime scene vicinity for possible witnesses. A

1056
01:12:49.960 --> 01:12:53.479
<v Speaker 1>park ranger soon encounters a man lounging in the sun.

1057
01:12:55.520 --> 01:12:58.920
<v Speaker 23>At that point in time, Joey's head, as sad as

1058
01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:01.319
<v Speaker 23>it sounds, had not yet been found.

1059
01:13:02.279 --> 01:13:02.720
<v Speaker 1>There was some.

1060
01:13:03.239 --> 01:13:06.960
<v Speaker 23>Suspicion that he was hiding some evidence in his backpack.

1061
01:13:07.000 --> 01:13:08.720
<v Speaker 24>Would you mind if I had a look in your backpack?

1062
01:13:10.800 --> 01:13:11.880
<v Speaker 2>I would prefer if you didn't.

1063
01:13:13.439 --> 01:13:16.279
<v Speaker 1>The man's reluctance causes the ranger to bring him in

1064
01:13:16.359 --> 01:13:16.960
<v Speaker 1>for questions.

1065
01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:18.159
<v Speaker 6>Here, thank you.

1066
01:13:25.720 --> 01:13:31.079
<v Speaker 1>He has identified as Cedar Lodge handyman Kerry Stainer. Nothing

1067
01:13:31.119 --> 01:13:35.119
<v Speaker 1>of significance is found in Stainer's backpack, which leads law

1068
01:13:35.239 --> 01:13:39.399
<v Speaker 1>enforcement wondering why he didn't consent to an earlier search.

1069
01:13:39.920 --> 01:13:42.279
<v Speaker 23>He acknowledged that he had been in the park, but

1070
01:13:42.439 --> 01:13:44.800
<v Speaker 23>he denied being in the area of the crime scene.

1071
01:13:45.079 --> 01:13:49.600
<v Speaker 23>He denied having any contact with Joey Armstrong. He provided

1072
01:13:50.119 --> 01:13:52.600
<v Speaker 23>an explanation of what he had been doing in the park.

1073
01:13:53.279 --> 01:13:55.840
<v Speaker 13>We asked him, will you voluntarily give us a DNA sample?

1074
01:13:55.880 --> 01:14:02.359
<v Speaker 1>And he comply. While Stayner's interview continues, takes a precautionary measure.

1075
01:14:03.359 --> 01:14:07.039
<v Speaker 13>I dispatched a couple FBI agents to go take polaroid

1076
01:14:07.119 --> 01:14:10.520
<v Speaker 13>pictures of the tire tread impressions of carry Stanner's jeep.

1077
01:14:15.039 --> 01:14:25.680
<v Speaker 1>With nothing to hold him, the handyman is released. Meanwhile,

1078
01:14:26.079 --> 01:14:30.319
<v Speaker 1>the search for Joey Armstrong's head reaches a grim conclusion.

1079
01:14:32.760 --> 01:14:34.720
<v Speaker 13>I didn't know what to read into that. I didn't

1080
01:14:34.760 --> 01:14:38.439
<v Speaker 13>know if this person was trying to inhibit us our

1081
01:14:38.479 --> 01:14:41.800
<v Speaker 13>ability to identify who the victim was and place the

1082
01:14:41.880 --> 01:14:44.000
<v Speaker 13>head in a different location. I didn't know what to

1083
01:14:44.079 --> 01:14:44.399
<v Speaker 13>make of it.

1084
01:14:47.399 --> 01:14:50.720
<v Speaker 1>Another woman dead and a killer still on the loose.

1085
01:14:51.800 --> 01:14:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Can police catch him before he strikes again? Five months

1086
01:14:59.039 --> 01:15:02.520
<v Speaker 1>after three sites are found dead outside of Yosemite Park,

1087
01:15:02.920 --> 01:15:08.359
<v Speaker 1>twenty six year old naturalist Joey Armstrong. The investigation continues

1088
01:15:08.439 --> 01:15:14.039
<v Speaker 1>on several fronts, but when Nick Rossi decides to ask

1089
01:15:14.199 --> 01:15:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Cedar Lodge handyman Carrie Stainer some more questions, he receives

1090
01:15:18.840 --> 01:15:21.479
<v Speaker 1>strange news. I don't know what to say. First time

1091
01:15:21.560 --> 01:15:25.680
<v Speaker 1>in two years he's missed a day of work. The

1092
01:15:25.800 --> 01:15:32.039
<v Speaker 1>motel manager takes Rossi to Stayner's apartment, but Stayner is gone,

1093
01:15:32.560 --> 01:15:50.079
<v Speaker 1>along with most of his possessions. A lookout bulletin is

1094
01:15:50.159 --> 01:15:53.520
<v Speaker 1>issued for the handyman as a material witnessing the Joey

1095
01:15:53.720 --> 01:15:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Armstrong case. Authority soon get a hit.

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01:15:58.279 --> 01:16:01.479
<v Speaker 23>A woman who was staying at Laguna del Soul, which

1097
01:16:01.600 --> 01:16:06.720
<v Speaker 23>is a resort south of Sacramento, recognized Stayner and she

1098
01:16:06.880 --> 01:16:08.239
<v Speaker 23>called the Sacramento office.

1099
01:16:08.279 --> 01:16:12.000
<v Speaker 1>In the FBI, Special Agent Ryanick is dispatched to bring

1100
01:16:12.079 --> 01:16:12.720
<v Speaker 1>the witness in.

1101
01:16:13.760 --> 01:16:19.279
<v Speaker 18>Mister Stayner, and as soon as Carrie was aware I

1102
01:16:19.439 --> 01:16:21.840
<v Speaker 18>was there, he stood up and put his hands on

1103
01:16:21.960 --> 01:16:25.560
<v Speaker 18>his head, which does not normal behavior for a citizen.

1104
01:16:26.800 --> 01:16:30.279
<v Speaker 1>Given Stayner's odd reaction, Rhynick cuffs him as a precaution,

1105
01:16:35.279 --> 01:16:39.720
<v Speaker 1>and while the agent transports Stainer back to headquarters. Hopkins

1106
01:16:39.800 --> 01:16:43.640
<v Speaker 1>studies tire tread indents, so.

1107
01:16:43.720 --> 01:16:47.239
<v Speaker 13>He had compared the sketch of the tire tread impressions

1108
01:16:47.359 --> 01:16:49.720
<v Speaker 13>in front of the cabin with the polaroid pictures taken

1109
01:16:49.800 --> 01:16:52.439
<v Speaker 13>from the tires on Stayner's jeep.

1110
01:17:03.239 --> 01:17:06.840
<v Speaker 2>What are showing you our pictures of tire treads?

1111
01:17:08.920 --> 01:17:12.239
<v Speaker 13>The two front tires and Stainer's cheep did not match

1112
01:17:12.359 --> 01:17:14.720
<v Speaker 13>the back two tires of his cheap But yet we

1113
01:17:14.880 --> 01:17:18.680
<v Speaker 13>had both of those tires at that crime scene, and

1114
01:17:18.800 --> 01:17:21.079
<v Speaker 13>he was telling investigators he'd never been there.

1115
01:17:22.000 --> 01:17:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Can I see one of your sandals place?

1116
01:17:30.039 --> 01:17:30.279
<v Speaker 6>Sure?

1117
01:17:33.960 --> 01:17:36.800
<v Speaker 13>Once we asked for his sandals, he knew that he

1118
01:17:37.000 --> 01:17:40.960
<v Speaker 13>left impression evidence behind. He knew that we were going

1119
01:17:41.039 --> 01:17:43.880
<v Speaker 13>to be able to forensically demonstrate that he was there

1120
01:17:44.000 --> 01:17:47.039
<v Speaker 13>and he was the one responsible for killing Joey Armstrong.

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01:17:51.159 --> 01:17:53.560
<v Speaker 18>When he asked to speak to me alone, you know,

1122
01:17:53.720 --> 01:17:55.239
<v Speaker 18>I guess you could say something was up.

1123
01:17:57.239 --> 01:18:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Faced with the evidence, Stainer confesses to them. He also

1124
01:18:04.920 --> 01:18:07.079
<v Speaker 1>tells Ryannick exactly what happened.

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01:18:08.399 --> 01:18:09.960
<v Speaker 16>Excuse me, I'm just getting ready to go.

1126
01:18:11.239 --> 01:18:26.039
<v Speaker 13>Okay, Kry Stainer was in a real rush to try

1127
01:18:26.119 --> 01:18:29.119
<v Speaker 13>to remove her out of the cabin into his jeep

1128
01:18:29.319 --> 01:18:30.520
<v Speaker 13>and move her out.

1129
01:18:30.359 --> 01:18:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Of the area, but Joey Armstrong resistant even managed to

1130
01:18:35.159 --> 01:18:39.920
<v Speaker 1>escape from the moving vehicle, but Stainer caught her and

1131
01:18:40.079 --> 01:18:40.720
<v Speaker 1>subdued her.

1132
01:18:41.399 --> 01:18:46.800
<v Speaker 23>Joey fought fiercely against Stayner and basically forced him to

1133
01:18:47.000 --> 01:18:51.479
<v Speaker 23>kill her at that scene rather than transporting her far away.

1134
01:18:59.359 --> 01:19:02.880
<v Speaker 1>The handyman and is officially charged with the Armstrong homicide.

1135
01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Now the FBI wants him for three more.

1136
01:19:08.239 --> 01:19:12.600
<v Speaker 23>He was implicating himself not only in Joey's death, but

1137
01:19:12.880 --> 01:19:16.520
<v Speaker 23>possibly also in the Sunned Puloso homicides.

1138
01:19:17.319 --> 01:19:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Back to the forensics, Stainer's DNA is compared to saliva

1139
01:19:21.880 --> 01:19:27.119
<v Speaker 1>from the anonymous letter that led police to Julie Sound. Incredibly,

1140
01:19:27.520 --> 01:19:31.159
<v Speaker 1>no match is found. Have they got the wrong man again?

1141
01:19:32.880 --> 01:19:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Hopkins pays yet another visit to room five oh nine

1142
01:19:35.840 --> 01:19:39.680
<v Speaker 1>of the Cedar Lodge, now looking for any trace of

1143
01:19:39.840 --> 01:19:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Carrie Stainer, but none is present. Everything comes down to

1144
01:19:45.840 --> 01:19:48.920
<v Speaker 1>the partial print lifted from the anonymous letter's stamp.

1145
01:19:50.159 --> 01:19:55.000
<v Speaker 13>The fingerprint examiner compared those known fingerprints with that partial

1146
01:19:55.039 --> 01:19:58.159
<v Speaker 13>fingerprint found on the stamp, and there was a match.

1147
01:20:03.239 --> 01:20:07.359
<v Speaker 1>Now forensically tied to the murders of Carol, Julie and Sylvena.

1148
01:20:07.760 --> 01:20:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Stayner realizes he's reached the end of his road. He

1149
01:20:12.800 --> 01:20:17.000
<v Speaker 1>opens up to Agent Reinick about a lifetime of twisted desires.

1150
01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:21.159
<v Speaker 18>He said, I'm a bad person. I've done some bad things.

1151
01:20:21.960 --> 01:20:25.520
<v Speaker 18>He has had devious sexual drive for quite a while.

1152
01:20:25.840 --> 01:20:28.039
<v Speaker 23>From the time that he was young, it had been

1153
01:20:28.079 --> 01:20:33.760
<v Speaker 23>important to him to try to control women. Mastery over

1154
01:20:33.880 --> 01:20:39.239
<v Speaker 23>them was central to his fantasies about killing and sexual assault.

1155
01:20:40.159 --> 01:20:43.520
<v Speaker 18>He recognized his fantasy, he decided he was going to

1156
01:20:43.600 --> 01:20:45.640
<v Speaker 18>say it through, and he did.

1157
01:20:49.079 --> 01:20:51.239
<v Speaker 23>He talked about other guests at the hotel that he

1158
01:20:51.399 --> 01:20:53.840
<v Speaker 23>chose not to attack because he thought they might have

1159
01:20:54.399 --> 01:20:55.199
<v Speaker 23>a man with them.

1160
01:21:00.880 --> 01:21:04.560
<v Speaker 12>Good evening, ma'am, my maintenance, we're having a water leak problem.

1161
01:21:05.199 --> 01:21:05.720
<v Speaker 2>May I commit?

1162
01:21:06.920 --> 01:21:11.319
<v Speaker 23>He desensitized the victims to his approach by knocking on

1163
01:21:11.439 --> 01:21:14.880
<v Speaker 23>adjacent doors and hollering maintenance and going in and sort

1164
01:21:14.920 --> 01:21:17.000
<v Speaker 23>of making noises, so that by the time he reached

1165
01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:19.520
<v Speaker 23>their door it would seem more routine.

1166
01:21:20.079 --> 01:21:22.039
<v Speaker 12>I don't know, it's a little late for maintenance work.

1167
01:21:22.079 --> 01:21:24.239
<v Speaker 2>Is there no problem? I'll go get the management if

1168
01:21:24.239 --> 01:21:24.600
<v Speaker 2>that makes.

1169
01:21:24.520 --> 01:21:28.119
<v Speaker 1>You feel better, No fine, come in grit thanks.

1170
01:21:29.119 --> 01:21:32.399
<v Speaker 18>And that began an unbelievable tragedy.

1171
01:21:32.880 --> 01:21:37.119
<v Speaker 1>Everybody freeze, don't make a sound, let out, don't look

1172
01:21:37.159 --> 01:21:43.119
<v Speaker 1>at me Stayiner binds all three women with duck games.

1173
01:21:43.760 --> 01:21:47.800
<v Speaker 1>He puts Julie and Sylvina in the bathroom, leaving Carol's

1174
01:21:47.840 --> 01:21:48.880
<v Speaker 1>son on the bed.

1175
01:21:49.239 --> 01:21:53.960
<v Speaker 13>Carol Son was killed. Initially, he strangled her and placed

1176
01:21:53.960 --> 01:21:54.640
<v Speaker 13>her in the trunk.

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01:21:57.159 --> 01:22:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Stainer next brings Sylvina Paloso out to the bed. She

1178
01:22:02.119 --> 01:22:05.279
<v Speaker 1>makes so much noise he becomes afraid of detection it, and.

1179
01:22:05.520 --> 01:22:12.079
<v Speaker 13>He subsequently killed Savina Peloso and plays her in the

1180
01:22:12.119 --> 01:22:12.760
<v Speaker 13>trunk of the car.

1181
01:22:14.359 --> 01:22:17.079
<v Speaker 1>Julie's sun is now the only one alive.

1182
01:22:18.560 --> 01:22:23.159
<v Speaker 13>For some weird reason, he developed quite an affinity for Julia.

1183
01:22:25.920 --> 01:22:33.079
<v Speaker 1>First, Stainer assaults her, then he wraps her in a blanket,

1184
01:22:33.760 --> 01:22:36.239
<v Speaker 1>puts her in the car, and drives her to the

1185
01:22:36.319 --> 01:22:38.720
<v Speaker 1>secluded shores of Don Pedro Lake.

1186
01:22:40.600 --> 01:22:43.840
<v Speaker 18>He wants to fantasize, if you will, that they have

1187
01:22:43.960 --> 01:22:49.720
<v Speaker 18>a relationship, and he convinced himself that she loved him

1188
01:22:50.399 --> 01:22:54.960
<v Speaker 18>and he loved her, and he holds to that till

1189
01:22:54.960 --> 01:22:55.279
<v Speaker 18>the end.

1190
01:23:06.359 --> 01:23:10.439
<v Speaker 1>The FBI finally has the man responsible for Yosemite's reign

1191
01:23:10.600 --> 01:23:11.119
<v Speaker 1>of terror.

1192
01:23:13.199 --> 01:23:19.520
<v Speaker 24>Stayner was the proverbial boy next door, good looking and unassuming,

1193
01:23:20.359 --> 01:23:24.079
<v Speaker 24>not the typical person you would suspect of being a killer.

1194
01:23:25.960 --> 01:23:29.920
<v Speaker 1>The remaining question is how he kept authorities off his

1195
01:23:30.159 --> 01:23:38.840
<v Speaker 1>trail for so long. Cedar Lodge handyman Carrie Stainer is

1196
01:23:38.920 --> 01:23:43.079
<v Speaker 1>the confessed killer of Carol and Julie sund Silvina Paloso,

1197
01:23:43.560 --> 01:23:47.359
<v Speaker 1>and Joey Armstrong. He now tells federal agents how he

1198
01:23:47.520 --> 01:23:49.279
<v Speaker 1>always planned to outsmart them.

1199
01:23:49.760 --> 01:23:53.159
<v Speaker 13>Carry Stanner had fantasized about doing this event and all

1200
01:23:53.199 --> 01:23:56.960
<v Speaker 13>the different types of forensic evidence investigators use to associate

1201
01:23:57.000 --> 01:23:58.680
<v Speaker 13>an offender to a crime scene.

1202
01:23:58.960 --> 01:24:02.960
<v Speaker 23>And he used that knowledge to basically manipulate evidence and

1203
01:24:03.560 --> 01:24:08.000
<v Speaker 23>create misleading clues for the team investigating this case.

1204
01:24:10.159 --> 01:24:13.119
<v Speaker 1>After killing Julie and leaving her at the lake, Stayner

1205
01:24:13.199 --> 01:24:16.279
<v Speaker 1>sets out to lead authorities far away from his crimes.

1206
01:24:17.880 --> 01:24:21.760
<v Speaker 1>He drives one hundred miles to Longbarn and ditches the

1207
01:24:21.800 --> 01:24:24.800
<v Speaker 1>rental car with the bodies of Carol and Silvina inside.

1208
01:24:26.119 --> 01:24:28.920
<v Speaker 1>He then hikes to a main road. He catches a

1209
01:24:29.000 --> 01:24:32.319
<v Speaker 1>cab back to the Cedar Lodge and thoroughly cleans Room

1210
01:24:32.399 --> 01:24:33.119
<v Speaker 1>five oh nine.

1211
01:24:34.840 --> 01:24:38.159
<v Speaker 24>He left all kinds of signs that the women had

1212
01:24:38.359 --> 01:24:42.199
<v Speaker 24>left that morning and were taking their drive as planned.

1213
01:24:42.760 --> 01:24:45.880
<v Speaker 24>He had gotten rid of any kind of evidence that

1214
01:24:46.199 --> 01:24:50.000
<v Speaker 24>this had been a room where two killings had taken

1215
01:24:50.119 --> 01:24:54.359
<v Speaker 24>place and a girl had been sexually assaulted for hours.

1216
01:24:56.840 --> 01:25:00.119
<v Speaker 1>He informs investigators that he shaved his body before he

1217
01:25:00.199 --> 01:25:05.560
<v Speaker 1>struck in order to leave fewer traces behind. Two days

1218
01:25:05.600 --> 01:25:09.279
<v Speaker 1>after the murders, he returns to Longbarn in his own vehicle,

1219
01:25:10.720 --> 01:25:14.560
<v Speaker 1>places the women's belongings in the rental car, and destroys

1220
01:25:14.640 --> 01:25:23.600
<v Speaker 1>the efforts, but he keeps a few select items for

1221
01:25:23.760 --> 01:25:29.840
<v Speaker 1>his next trick. One hundred miles away in Modesto, he.

1222
01:25:30.000 --> 01:25:33.840
<v Speaker 18>Took many of the possessions of Carrel, Slovina and Julie

1223
01:25:34.159 --> 01:25:36.039
<v Speaker 18>and dumped them in Medesto.

1224
01:25:37.840 --> 01:25:40.600
<v Speaker 1>This effort to fool police gets a major boost when

1225
01:25:40.720 --> 01:25:44.359
<v Speaker 1>Dyke's in Larwick. The perfect suspects happened to pick up

1226
01:25:44.439 --> 01:25:47.359
<v Speaker 1>Carol's son's wallet and take the clothes to sell on

1227
01:25:47.439 --> 01:25:53.039
<v Speaker 1>the street. The garments are never recovered, but the orange

1228
01:25:53.079 --> 01:25:57.159
<v Speaker 1>fibers from Julie's shirt found in the car help incriminate

1229
01:25:57.279 --> 01:26:02.039
<v Speaker 1>the pair. Hearing about their arrests on the news, Stainer

1230
01:26:02.079 --> 01:26:05.439
<v Speaker 1>writes the taunting letter to suggest that more than one

1231
01:26:05.600 --> 01:26:07.279
<v Speaker 1>killer is involved in the crime.

1232
01:26:09.359 --> 01:26:12.920
<v Speaker 23>He knew that we could extract DNA from things like

1233
01:26:13.119 --> 01:26:15.760
<v Speaker 23>envelopes and the flap used to seal it.

1234
01:26:15.880 --> 01:26:20.279
<v Speaker 13>Envelope, So he went down in the dusk stop and

1235
01:26:20.800 --> 01:26:23.640
<v Speaker 13>found a little Hispanic boy and paid this little Hispanic

1236
01:26:23.680 --> 01:26:25.880
<v Speaker 13>boy five dollars to spit in a cup.

1237
01:26:26.560 --> 01:26:29.840
<v Speaker 1>He then uses the boys saliva to seal the envelope.

1238
01:26:31.199 --> 01:26:37.800
<v Speaker 23>He showed considerable intelligence and considerable planning in the way

1239
01:26:37.920 --> 01:26:41.520
<v Speaker 23>that he concealed the crime and planted false evidence.

1240
01:26:43.359 --> 01:26:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Confident he can get away with murder, Stayner chooses Joey

1241
01:26:46.840 --> 01:26:52.439
<v Speaker 1>Armstrong as his next victim, but things go wrong this

1242
01:26:52.640 --> 01:26:57.479
<v Speaker 1>time when Armstrong's brave struggle throws a cycle path off

1243
01:26:57.560 --> 01:26:58.000
<v Speaker 1>his game.

1244
01:26:58.680 --> 01:27:03.560
<v Speaker 18>Joey Armstrong's for life, her willingness to fight to have

1245
01:27:03.840 --> 01:27:08.399
<v Speaker 18>life is I believe what caused him to leave the

1246
01:27:08.479 --> 01:27:09.319
<v Speaker 18>evidence behind.

1247
01:27:12.399 --> 01:27:14.359
<v Speaker 13>He wanted to go back to that crime scene and

1248
01:27:14.439 --> 01:27:16.600
<v Speaker 13>try to destroy a lot of that evidence and take

1249
01:27:16.680 --> 01:27:19.319
<v Speaker 13>it back, but he never had the opportunity.

1250
01:27:21.079 --> 01:27:25.239
<v Speaker 23>He later confessed that had he not been stopped at

1251
01:27:25.239 --> 01:27:30.439
<v Speaker 23>that point, he would have continued killing. None of us

1252
01:27:30.439 --> 01:27:34.560
<v Speaker 23>would think that someone who is normal couldn't commit these

1253
01:27:34.680 --> 01:27:35.560
<v Speaker 23>kinds of crimes.

1254
01:27:37.079 --> 01:27:38.199
<v Speaker 6>You don't know how to feel.

1255
01:27:40.479 --> 01:27:43.000
<v Speaker 18>I like to think that I did what I did

1256
01:27:43.079 --> 01:27:43.960
<v Speaker 18>for those victims.

1257
01:27:45.399 --> 01:27:51.760
<v Speaker 1>At trial, Carrie Stainer bleeds insanity. The jury rejects his defense.

1258
01:27:53.199 --> 01:27:57.920
<v Speaker 1>On December twelfth, two thousand and two, Stainer receives the

1259
01:27:58.039 --> 01:28:09.439
<v Speaker 1>death penalty. April nineteen ninety two, after battling heavy traffic,

1260
01:28:09.760 --> 01:28:14.399
<v Speaker 1>Nancy Blackburn finally arrives at her destination. A weekend of

1261
01:28:14.520 --> 01:28:20.760
<v Speaker 1>peace and relaxation awaits, or so she believes. For Nancy Blackburn,

1262
01:28:20.840 --> 01:28:23.279
<v Speaker 1>the trip marks the end of a long cold winter,

1263
01:28:24.399 --> 01:28:28.199
<v Speaker 1>but it also marks the beginning of a nightmare, a

1264
01:28:28.359 --> 01:28:31.279
<v Speaker 1>nightmare that will yet claim many more victims.

1265
01:28:31.640 --> 01:28:33.199
<v Speaker 11>He's an absolute sexual obevient.

1266
01:28:33.279 --> 01:28:34.000
<v Speaker 9>He's a predator.

1267
01:28:34.680 --> 01:28:40.399
<v Speaker 11>The viciousness that he displayed, his ruthlessness, I find to

1268
01:28:40.479 --> 01:28:42.439
<v Speaker 11>be just chilling.

1269
01:28:43.600 --> 01:28:46.159
<v Speaker 26>You clearly had someone to me to fit the category

1270
01:28:46.199 --> 01:28:47.079
<v Speaker 26>of the serial killer.

1271
01:28:48.039 --> 01:28:52.479
<v Speaker 1>Investigators must work feverishly to identify an elusive psychopath.

1272
01:28:52.680 --> 01:28:54.199
<v Speaker 11>We had no idea who that person was.

1273
01:28:54.960 --> 01:28:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Then hunt him down and stop his rampage.

1274
01:29:01.079 --> 01:29:03.279
<v Speaker 22>There would be no end of victims until he was caught.

1275
01:29:43.880 --> 01:29:46.399
<v Speaker 13>Uncle Ann Auntie Nance.

1276
01:29:47.760 --> 01:29:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Monday, April thirteenth, nineteen ninety two, in an upscale neighborhood

1277
01:29:52.880 --> 01:29:57.439
<v Speaker 1>in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, Jamie Osborne checks in on his

1278
01:29:57.520 --> 01:30:00.159
<v Speaker 1>aunt and uncle after they failed to show up a

1279
01:30:00.199 --> 01:30:07.079
<v Speaker 1>weekend family party. But no one's home. Nothing in the

1280
01:30:07.159 --> 01:30:08.680
<v Speaker 1>house suggests where they may be.

1281
01:30:10.319 --> 01:30:13.239
<v Speaker 16>I'll go in as a nats.

1282
01:30:16.279 --> 01:30:20.199
<v Speaker 11>About eleven o'clock twelve o'clock in the evening. He also

1283
01:30:20.279 --> 01:30:23.680
<v Speaker 11>notices that there's keys to the vehicle in the key container.

1284
01:30:25.199 --> 01:30:29.079
<v Speaker 1>The keys are to Nancy Blackburn's car. Perhaps it holds

1285
01:30:29.079 --> 01:30:30.920
<v Speaker 1>a clue to the couple's whereabouts.

1286
01:30:48.880 --> 01:30:52.399
<v Speaker 11>He goes to the back of the car, opens a trunk.

1287
01:30:53.560 --> 01:31:08.399
<v Speaker 1>Inside is a site Jamie will never forget. Metro Toronto

1288
01:31:08.479 --> 01:31:10.079
<v Speaker 1>Police are soon on the scene.

1289
01:31:11.319 --> 01:31:14.960
<v Speaker 11>It was called about two bodies found in the trunk

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<v Speaker 11>of a car at three Saint Leonard's in fifty three

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<v Speaker 11>Division in downtown Toronto.

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<v Speaker 1>Detective Sergeant Doug Brady joins forensics expert Richard McEwan and

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<v Speaker 1>the investigation begins. An initial glance at the naked female

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<v Speaker 1>victim reveals the case's first piece of information.

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<v Speaker 11>Lavidity, which is a blood flowing to the lowest possible area,

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<v Speaker 11>had set in on the victim and she had been

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<v Speaker 11>in the position she was for some time.

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<v Speaker 1>The dead couple is quickly identified as Nancy and Ian Blackburn.

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<v Speaker 1>Neither have been seen for some days. As Nancy's car

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<v Speaker 1>is secured to protect it from the elements, Grady moves

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<v Speaker 1>his team inside the Blackburn's upscale North Toronto home. They

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<v Speaker 1>spent hours combing it for signs of foul play.

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<v Speaker 19>Nothing was found that was out of place within the house.

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<v Speaker 19>There's no signs of violence or any type of struggle

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<v Speaker 19>that was noticeable.

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<v Speaker 1>It becomes evident that the couple was not murdered within

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<v Speaker 1>these walls. But why were they killed at all?

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<v Speaker 11>He was the owner broker of a business with a partner.

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<v Speaker 11>They were quite successful. The female victim was a registered

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<v Speaker 11>nurse who was actively involved in businesses in Toronto, so

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<v Speaker 11>they were well enough off.

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<v Speaker 1>Authorities wonder was robbery the prime motive behind the murders.

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<v Speaker 1>They soon get their answer.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no way a thief could miss us.

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<v Speaker 1>All the Blackburn's possessions seem to be in place, but

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<v Speaker 1>they learned that something crucial is missing.

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<v Speaker 16>And when I opened off the car.

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<v Speaker 1>Ian Blackburn's car is not in the garage or anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>near the property. Grady issues in all points bulletined for

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<v Speaker 1>the vehicle. As the bodies are removed from Nancy's car

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<v Speaker 1>and sent to the Morgue. Her vehicle is then taken

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<v Speaker 1>to the Center of Forensic Sciences to be investigated.

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<v Speaker 19>And then we did an extensive examination of the car.

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<v Speaker 19>Fingerprints analysis done on the all the surfaces of the car.

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<v Speaker 1>Police are hopeful the killer left behind evidence of himself,

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<v Speaker 1>but they are disappointed.

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<v Speaker 19>Unfortunately, low usable fingerprints were found on the car itself,

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<v Speaker 19>and we're going to attribute that to the fact that

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<v Speaker 19>it was cold weather.

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<v Speaker 1>Sweat is necessary for a clean fingerprint. In cold weather,

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01:34:18.479 --> 01:34:21.359
<v Speaker 1>the pores that provides sweat close up and leave little

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<v Speaker 1>moisture behind. In the back seat, authorities do find something interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>a thermal bag from which they recover a roasting pan.

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<v Speaker 1>Inside the pan is a fully prepared dinner of beef

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<v Speaker 1>and vegetables. Meanwhile, at the Morgue, an examination of Ian

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<v Speaker 1>Blackburn's injuries raises more questions than it answers. McEwan determines

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<v Speaker 1>that he was suffocated after being severely beaten with them.

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<v Speaker 11>He had been punched in the face, he had bruising

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<v Speaker 11>to him. Somebody had taken control of him quite strongly.

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<v Speaker 1>A look at the victim's right leg reveals a we

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<v Speaker 1>particularly intriguing clue.

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<v Speaker 11>But he had an unusual, in my experience, unusual markings

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<v Speaker 11>just above.

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<v Speaker 6>His right knee.

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<v Speaker 11>There was a ligature mark, very strong ligature mark.

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<v Speaker 1>Most captains Machewen has dealt with have been bound at

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<v Speaker 1>the wrists and ankles. Why would Ian be tied around

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01:35:20.439 --> 01:35:20.880
<v Speaker 1>the knee.

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<v Speaker 11>He also had a cylinder mark around his skull, is

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<v Speaker 11>consistent with a firearm being placed there very strongly against

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<v Speaker 11>the side of his head.

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<v Speaker 1>A Quan now examines Nancy Blackburn. She too has been asphyxiated.

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<v Speaker 1>No evidence of sexual assault is found, but her injuries

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<v Speaker 1>paint a picture of extreme violence. Most alarming is the

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<v Speaker 1>discovery that both of Nancy's shoulders have been pulled out

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<v Speaker 1>of their sockets.

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<v Speaker 11>At first, you're trying to figure out in what kind

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<v Speaker 11>of scenarios could have resulted in this.

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<v Speaker 1>At the forensic garage, investigators finally recover a piece of

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<v Speaker 1>hard evidence, a bloody kleenex on the floor of the car.

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<v Speaker 1>Lab analysis reveals that the blood is not a match

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<v Speaker 1>to either victim. Could it be the killers? There's no

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01:36:36.520 --> 01:36:41.399
<v Speaker 1>way to be sure. With nothing but speculation to go on,

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<v Speaker 1>Grady and his team are in need of a break,

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01:36:46.119 --> 01:36:49.640
<v Speaker 1>and suddenly they get one when Ian Blackburn's car is

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<v Speaker 1>located one hour north of the city at his summer farmhouse.

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<v Speaker 1>On the case is Detective Inspector Jim Hutcheson.

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<v Speaker 22>The male victims vehicle was still in the Caldon area

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<v Speaker 22>had been parked there for considerable days, but.

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<v Speaker 1>A much more compelling find awaits Hutchison inside. Police believe

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<v Speaker 1>they have just found their murder scene. The bodies of

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<v Speaker 1>Ian and Nancy Blackburn are found in Nancy's car at

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<v Speaker 1>the couple's Toronto home. The search for their killer leads

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<v Speaker 1>police one hour north of the city to the Blackburn's

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<v Speaker 1>summer farmhouse. Ian Blackburn's car has been found outside and

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<v Speaker 1>human blood on the stairs inside. Detectives Grady and McEwan

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<v Speaker 1>arrive on the scene together with Inspector Hutchison. They seek

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01:37:51.439 --> 01:37:55.079
<v Speaker 1>hard evidence to prove this is their crime scene. Ian

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<v Speaker 1>Blackburn's car places him at the location within the timeframe

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<v Speaker 1>when the couple died.

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<v Speaker 11>We could tell that the vehicle had been there for

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<v Speaker 11>at least a few days because there were markings around

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<v Speaker 11>the car where rain had come down and where the

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<v Speaker 11>soot had been, and there was a clear outline around

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<v Speaker 11>the vehicle.

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<v Speaker 1>Grady obtains phone records for the farmhouse and discovers that

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<v Speaker 1>the last two outgoing calls were made to the Blackburns

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<v Speaker 1>Toronto home three days before the couple was discovered. This evidence,

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<v Speaker 1>together with the roaster from Nancy's car, suggests that Ian

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<v Speaker 1>began the day alone at the cabin and telephone Nancy

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<v Speaker 1>to join him.

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<v Speaker 22>The speculation was that she had driven up to meet

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<v Speaker 22>with her husband and had brought a prepared meal.

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<v Speaker 11>And at that point we believe both vehicles were at

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<v Speaker 11>the farmhouse.

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<v Speaker 1>Speculation becomes fact when lab results confirmed the blood found

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<v Speaker 1>on the stairs is Nancy's. At the same time, the

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<v Speaker 1>investigators received some startling information from local authorities. Six months earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>another Toronto resident had been attacked only two kilometers away

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<v Speaker 1>from the Blackburn cottage.

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<v Speaker 22>A vehicle was found off the road in the ditch

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<v Speaker 22>in Caledon of a store owner from Toronto by the.

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<v Speaker 1>Name of Caroline Case.

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<v Speaker 22>She had disappeared from her store downtown Toronto, and then

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<v Speaker 22>there was some blood found in the car that was

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<v Speaker 22>identified as being Caroline Case.

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<v Speaker 1>Presumed murdered case's body has not been recovered. As police

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if the two crimes could be connected, the investigation

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<v Speaker 1>takes another turn.

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<v Speaker 9>Ah, you think that's the point of.

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<v Speaker 27>Entry or how it looks like an officer's actually, please,

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01:39:52.600 --> 01:39:56.640
<v Speaker 27>there were small prim marks on a window that indicated

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<v Speaker 27>that there had been a forced entry to it.

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<v Speaker 4>In here, and he made his way in with them

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<v Speaker 4>looks like what could be a fuel.

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<v Speaker 1>Impressions are recorded, and investigators soon learned from local police

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<v Speaker 1>just how significant they are. It seems that cops throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the area are all too familiar with these impressions, having

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<v Speaker 1>seen them at a rash of unique cottage break ins

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<v Speaker 1>over the winter. The homicide team is told all about

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<v Speaker 1>the strange and elusive intruder known as the house Hermit.

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<v Speaker 19>The press nicknamed him the house Hermit, and that's how

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<v Speaker 19>he became unknown. He would break into a cottage over

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01:40:36.239 --> 01:40:39.399
<v Speaker 19>the winter and live there for a period of time

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<v Speaker 19>and then abandon it.

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<v Speaker 22>He was using the bed, he had the heat turned

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<v Speaker 22>on in the area. He had a fry pan that

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<v Speaker 22>he was using.

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<v Speaker 1>Evidence of a visit by the house Hermit includes mounds

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<v Speaker 1>of used tea bags.

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<v Speaker 19>Our suspect like to drink Twining's tea.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not all.

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<v Speaker 22>He was using plastic jugs to keep his urine because

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<v Speaker 22>the water system was not turned on for the winners.

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<v Speaker 1>He also keeps a stockpile of his own feces wrapped

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<v Speaker 1>in newspapers.

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<v Speaker 19>Paper was folded in a kind of a unique manner.

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<v Speaker 22>We referred to it as a fish and chip tucket.

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<v Speaker 1>What sounds merely eccentric turns possibly sinister when the team

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01:41:32.199 --> 01:41:34.680
<v Speaker 1>is informed that one of the cottages the house hermit

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<v Speaker 1>broke into was that of a gun collector.

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<v Speaker 11>That breaking inner several handguns were taken, newer guns, older guns,

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01:41:46.560 --> 01:41:51.760
<v Speaker 11>automatic revolvers, and that was quite a concern.

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<v Speaker 1>Investigators wonder could the mysterious hermit also be a killer.

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<v Speaker 11>So we had an idea that whoever was committing the

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<v Speaker 11>break and enters may be the person responsible for these murders.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem with this theory is that no evidence is

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<v Speaker 1>found inside the Blackburn farmhouse to suggest the house hermit

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01:42:15.119 --> 01:42:19.800
<v Speaker 1>camped here. Hutchison moves the hunt for clues outside.

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01:42:23.319 --> 01:42:26.520
<v Speaker 22>I had brought in the urd Team Emergency response team

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<v Speaker 22>to search the property and also all the concession mo

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<v Speaker 22>It's not leading up and down the farm.

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<v Speaker 1>The effort soon turns up exactly what the police are

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01:42:40.520 --> 01:42:46.600
<v Speaker 1>hoping for. Garbage bags on the Blackburn property containing signs

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01:42:46.880 --> 01:42:52.880
<v Speaker 1>of the house hermit, tea bags, urine filled jugs, and

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01:42:53.000 --> 01:42:54.840
<v Speaker 1>the most telling calling card of all.

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<v Speaker 19>There were human feces wrapped in the sports section of

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<v Speaker 19>a newspaper from the Toronto Star.

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<v Speaker 1>The pages are dated February twenty seven. Inside the farmhouse,

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<v Speaker 1>Grady finds a newspaper for the same date, missing a

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01:43:11.560 --> 01:43:13.920
<v Speaker 1>sports section more or.

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<v Speaker 22>Less tied in the victim's residents to what we found outside.

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<v Speaker 1>In the garbage, investigators also recover ammunition they are able

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<v Speaker 1>to trace back to the break in at the gun

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01:43:25.960 --> 01:43:30.479
<v Speaker 1>collector's cottage. Authorities now suspect that one of those stolen

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<v Speaker 1>guns have been pressed against Ian Blackburn's head.

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<v Speaker 11>We put out the information on the firearms, all of

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<v Speaker 11>the serial numbers of the firearms.

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<v Speaker 1>In another disturbing development at the Morgue, medical examiners are

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<v Speaker 1>getting an idea of just how violently Nancy Blackburn died,

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<v Speaker 1>in particular how her shoulders were ripped out of their sockets.

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<v Speaker 19>The pathologist attributor to that injury to having your hands

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<v Speaker 19>by your back and then being hung.

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<v Speaker 11>Up, and the pathologists described it as being hogtied.

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<v Speaker 1>Clearly their killer enjoys extreme violence, but we.

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<v Speaker 11>Still had no idea who that person was.

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<v Speaker 9>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 11>Welcome, come on in, thank you, This is Upton, Please

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01:44:29.880 --> 01:44:30.760
<v Speaker 11>meet s your Jim Hutchinson.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Hutchison is made aware of an extraordinary report filed

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<v Speaker 1>weeks earlier by an elderly couple, Rose and Samuel Appleton.

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<v Speaker 1>They had an encounter with the house Hermit, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>lucky to escape with their lives. Finally, the police are

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01:44:46.680 --> 01:44:49.199
<v Speaker 1>ready to put a face to the man they suspect

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01:44:49.680 --> 01:44:57.359
<v Speaker 1>is their cold blooded killer. After making a possible link

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<v Speaker 1>between the Blackburn double murder and a rash of bizarre

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<v Speaker 1>break ins in cottage country, police have found witnesses that

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<v Speaker 1>may help them identify a mysterious drifter dubbed the house Hermit.

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<v Speaker 1>Investigators hang on every word as Rose and Samuel Appleton

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<v Speaker 1>recount the brush they had with their intruder.

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<v Speaker 22>In early March of nineteen ninety two, an elderly couple

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<v Speaker 22>from Toronto came up to the Middland area. I went

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<v Speaker 22>on Georgie and Bay to pay their taxes for their cottage,

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01:45:28.359 --> 01:45:30.640
<v Speaker 22>but also checked the cottage and make sure that everything

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01:45:30.720 --> 01:45:31.560
<v Speaker 22>was fine over the winter.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll give me a second.

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<v Speaker 13>I'll turn on the power, check the pipes New York.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't be longer.

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<v Speaker 11>He asked his wife to stay in the car. He

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<v Speaker 11>walks to the cottage, He opens it up, he goes in.

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01:45:49.039 --> 01:45:52.800
<v Speaker 19>He was confronted by our suspect, who had a firearm.

1502
01:45:54.079 --> 01:45:56.479
<v Speaker 11>Took control of the older gentleman and took them back

1503
01:45:56.520 --> 01:45:56.960
<v Speaker 11>to the car.

1504
01:45:59.399 --> 01:46:01.640
<v Speaker 19>Told them I mean to Toronto, to your house and

1505
01:46:01.920 --> 01:46:02.720
<v Speaker 19>I'll leave you there.

1506
01:46:04.760 --> 01:46:07.840
<v Speaker 1>The hour long trip to Toronto is spent in silence

1507
01:46:08.159 --> 01:46:18.760
<v Speaker 1>and terror, but once in the city, the Appletons defy

1508
01:46:18.960 --> 01:46:21.600
<v Speaker 1>the house hermit's order to take him to their residence.

1509
01:46:22.399 --> 01:46:27.159
<v Speaker 11>He drove this person right to Dundas and Young, the

1510
01:46:27.199 --> 01:46:30.319
<v Speaker 11>busiest street in Toronto, right at the busiest corner of Toronto.

1511
01:46:34.680 --> 01:46:38.039
<v Speaker 11>I will not take you to our home. If you're

1512
01:46:38.039 --> 01:46:40.760
<v Speaker 11>going to shoot us, shoot us right here.

1513
01:46:41.239 --> 01:46:44.600
<v Speaker 1>The Appletons await their fate, but in the end, their

1514
01:46:44.680 --> 01:46:46.119
<v Speaker 1>brave tactic works.

1515
01:46:47.479 --> 01:46:49.880
<v Speaker 11>The suspect got out of the car and took off,

1516
01:46:51.239 --> 01:46:53.920
<v Speaker 11>and I honestly believe that that auction saved their lives.

1517
01:46:55.000 --> 01:46:58.359
<v Speaker 1>The couple now tells police everything they can remember about

1518
01:46:58.439 --> 01:46:59.079
<v Speaker 1>their assailant.

1519
01:46:59.479 --> 01:47:03.760
<v Speaker 22>Both gave descriptions of the individuals that had attacked, and

1520
01:47:03.880 --> 01:47:07.920
<v Speaker 22>a composite drawn was prepared by the opp artist.

1521
01:47:08.880 --> 01:47:11.000
<v Speaker 19>We had the similarities in the break ins, and now

1522
01:47:11.079 --> 01:47:13.479
<v Speaker 19>we had a description of our suspect.

1523
01:47:13.840 --> 01:47:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, she was.

1524
01:47:14.720 --> 01:47:16.000
<v Speaker 18>She had dark glasses on us.

1525
01:47:16.680 --> 01:47:20.720
<v Speaker 11>We thought of releasing composite drawings, but composite drawings give

1526
01:47:20.760 --> 01:47:26.479
<v Speaker 11>you quite often a thousand names that mean nothing. Composite

1527
01:47:26.520 --> 01:47:28.359
<v Speaker 11>drawings sometimes isn't exact enough.

1528
01:47:29.319 --> 01:47:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Local investigation at the time of the incident revealed evidence

1529
01:47:33.079 --> 01:47:35.880
<v Speaker 1>that the house hermit had camped at the Appleton cottage.

1530
01:47:36.640 --> 01:47:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Hutchison now returns there and discovers a box the hermit

1531
01:47:40.079 --> 01:47:43.560
<v Speaker 1>had stashed away inside our alarming contents.

1532
01:47:45.359 --> 01:47:49.199
<v Speaker 19>There was quite an extensive collection of porn found at

1533
01:47:49.199 --> 01:47:49.600
<v Speaker 19>that time.

1534
01:47:52.439 --> 01:47:55.079
<v Speaker 1>Much of the pornography features acts of s and m

1535
01:47:55.680 --> 01:47:58.880
<v Speaker 1>in particular photographs of women who have been hog tied.

1536
01:48:00.000 --> 01:48:05.479
<v Speaker 11>Someone was cut out and classified and classified, I mean categorized,

1537
01:48:05.479 --> 01:48:08.479
<v Speaker 11>would keep it in different groups.

1538
01:48:09.479 --> 01:48:11.479
<v Speaker 22>There'd be a whole bunch of breast pictures, and then

1539
01:48:11.520 --> 01:48:13.840
<v Speaker 22>there'd be a whole bunch of and his pictures. Wasn't

1540
01:48:13.840 --> 01:48:16.199
<v Speaker 22>that he was cutting out the and putting them together.

1541
01:48:16.279 --> 01:48:18.520
<v Speaker 22>It was just that they would be cutting it up

1542
01:48:18.560 --> 01:48:19.319
<v Speaker 22>and categorizing.

1543
01:48:19.439 --> 01:48:24.680
<v Speaker 1>A troubling profile of the suspected killer emerges from this evidence.

1544
01:48:25.239 --> 01:48:28.479
<v Speaker 11>He was somebody who was good with his hands, somebody

1545
01:48:28.479 --> 01:48:28.840
<v Speaker 11>who was.

1546
01:48:30.720 --> 01:48:34.600
<v Speaker 22>Methodical, and also that he was fantasy driven. I believe

1547
01:48:34.680 --> 01:48:38.239
<v Speaker 22>that he could only gain satisfaction through a type of

1548
01:48:39.239 --> 01:48:41.640
<v Speaker 22>bondage or violence.

1549
01:48:42.319 --> 01:48:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Police now review their evidence. Ian's car abandoned at the

1550
01:48:46.920 --> 01:48:51.159
<v Speaker 1>Blackburn farmhouse, the phone records showing calls from the farmhouse

1551
01:48:51.199 --> 01:48:55.079
<v Speaker 1>to his Toronto residence, the roasting pan in Nancy's car,

1552
01:48:55.720 --> 01:48:59.079
<v Speaker 1>her blood on the stairs signs that the house hermit

1553
01:48:59.279 --> 01:49:03.479
<v Speaker 1>entered the farm house and camp there, his appetite for

1554
01:49:03.680 --> 01:49:08.399
<v Speaker 1>violent pornography, and lastly, the vicious wounds to both Ian

1555
01:49:09.960 --> 01:49:17.640
<v Speaker 1>and Nancy. Taken together, they form a picture of how

1556
01:49:18.560 --> 01:49:27.319
<v Speaker 1>and why the Blackburns died. It starts with Ian arriving

1557
01:49:27.359 --> 01:49:30.600
<v Speaker 1>at the farmhouse alone, having driven up in his vehicle.

1558
01:49:36.600 --> 01:49:41.399
<v Speaker 1>He's completely unaware that the house hermit is residing inside.

1559
01:49:46.159 --> 01:49:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Ian enters the residence, phones Nancy in Toronto and they

1560
01:49:51.079 --> 01:49:53.039
<v Speaker 1>discuss her driving up to join him.

1561
01:49:54.159 --> 01:49:57.119
<v Speaker 5>Hey sweetheart, I sweetie, Yeah, I've got the rose of

1562
01:49:57.159 --> 01:49:59.840
<v Speaker 5>the oven, and I'll probably be there in a couple hours.

1563
01:50:00.680 --> 01:50:03.560
<v Speaker 6>All right, Okay, we'll look forward to seeing you.

1564
01:50:03.680 --> 01:50:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Then.

1565
01:50:05.000 --> 01:50:21.800
<v Speaker 28>By the time Nancy arrives, Ian is powerless.

1566
01:50:21.359 --> 01:50:21.880
<v Speaker 1>To help her.

1567
01:50:24.560 --> 01:50:35.920
<v Speaker 16>Yeah, honey, I'm scared.

1568
01:50:44.279 --> 01:50:55.760
<v Speaker 1>The house hermit overpowers her, then hog ties her and

1569
01:50:55.920 --> 01:51:01.279
<v Speaker 1>assaults her in accordance with his sexually sadistic fantasies. Finally,

1570
01:51:01.319 --> 01:51:03.159
<v Speaker 1>he kills her and throws her in the truck of

1571
01:51:03.239 --> 01:51:07.520
<v Speaker 1>her car. The hermit now cleans up his campsite, throws

1572
01:51:07.600 --> 01:51:10.359
<v Speaker 1>the garbage in the woods, and prepares to leave the area.

1573
01:51:11.359 --> 01:51:14.000
<v Speaker 1>The police can't be sure how the Blackburns ended up

1574
01:51:14.000 --> 01:51:18.199
<v Speaker 1>back in Toronto. A closer examination of Ian Blackburn's injuries,

1575
01:51:18.560 --> 01:51:21.399
<v Speaker 1>including the ligature mark on his right leg, point to

1576
01:51:21.479 --> 01:51:25.119
<v Speaker 1>the likely circumstance. His right arm was tied to his

1577
01:51:25.279 --> 01:51:27.960
<v Speaker 1>right leg with enough slack to allow him to drive,

1578
01:51:28.800 --> 01:51:32.239
<v Speaker 1>while his left arm and ankle were tightly bound together.

1579
01:51:32.840 --> 01:51:36.279
<v Speaker 22>And forced the male victim to drive the vehicle back

1580
01:51:36.319 --> 01:51:41.119
<v Speaker 22>to Toronto, possibly not even knowing that his wife was

1581
01:51:41.159 --> 01:51:46.279
<v Speaker 22>in the trunk, and probably hoping to save his own life,

1582
01:51:46.399 --> 01:51:49.359
<v Speaker 22>hoping to get back to Calden to release his wife.

1583
01:51:49.119 --> 01:51:50.880
<v Speaker 9>Who would be tied up back at the cottage.

1584
01:51:55.680 --> 01:51:56.359
<v Speaker 1>What now.

1585
01:52:00.039 --> 01:52:04.760
<v Speaker 22>That once he got into the driveway, was affixiated, put

1586
01:52:04.840 --> 01:52:06.920
<v Speaker 22>in the trunk of the car and they were left there.

1587
01:52:08.199 --> 01:52:11.079
<v Speaker 1>But despite their theories, all police have to show for

1588
01:52:11.159 --> 01:52:14.920
<v Speaker 1>the investigation is a bloody tissue and a composite sketch

1589
01:52:15.000 --> 01:52:18.760
<v Speaker 1>They can connect to no one. Then they make a

1590
01:52:18.880 --> 01:52:23.680
<v Speaker 1>discovery that just may turn things around. Under the pornography

1591
01:52:23.840 --> 01:52:27.760
<v Speaker 1>found at the Appleton's property are several strange lists of

1592
01:52:27.880 --> 01:52:28.920
<v Speaker 1>military equipment.

1593
01:52:30.199 --> 01:52:34.560
<v Speaker 11>Fulker airplanes against sopwith Campbell's, you know, like a unique

1594
01:52:35.159 --> 01:52:47.399
<v Speaker 11>planes all crossed off, firearms, rifles against canons. It appeared

1595
01:52:47.439 --> 01:52:52.399
<v Speaker 11>to be a solitary game of war.

1596
01:52:54.520 --> 01:52:57.640
<v Speaker 1>But for the investigators, more important than the content of

1597
01:52:57.720 --> 01:53:00.760
<v Speaker 1>the lists is the style in which they have been written.

1598
01:53:01.720 --> 01:53:05.000
<v Speaker 1>The handwriting is so unique it might prove as effective

1599
01:53:05.039 --> 01:53:09.800
<v Speaker 1>as a fingerprint in identifying someone. The team goes public

1600
01:53:10.039 --> 01:53:10.960
<v Speaker 1>with their manhunt.

1601
01:53:13.039 --> 01:53:17.520
<v Speaker 11>We provided the media with a copy of the handwriting

1602
01:53:18.520 --> 01:53:22.920
<v Speaker 11>and it went in national media, both on television and

1603
01:53:23.079 --> 01:53:24.079
<v Speaker 11>in the print media.

1604
01:53:26.239 --> 01:53:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Police know all too well the risks they take releasing

1605
01:53:29.800 --> 01:53:33.399
<v Speaker 1>their evidence. It may alert the suspect that they're onto him.

1606
01:53:34.000 --> 01:53:36.680
<v Speaker 1>But if they don't roll the dice and take this gamble,

1607
01:53:37.119 --> 01:53:49.279
<v Speaker 1>they'll never catch a killer before he strikes again. Police

1608
01:53:49.319 --> 01:53:52.920
<v Speaker 1>have distributed samples of the house hermit's unique handwriting to

1609
01:53:53.039 --> 01:53:56.800
<v Speaker 1>the media in hopes that someone can help identify their

1610
01:53:56.840 --> 01:54:04.840
<v Speaker 1>elusive suspect. Within hours, they hit paydirt. Courtesy of Alison shaw.

1611
01:54:07.479 --> 01:54:07.640
<v Speaker 8>Well.

1612
01:54:07.680 --> 01:54:10.720
<v Speaker 22>We had a call from a called Alison who said

1613
01:54:10.760 --> 01:54:15.279
<v Speaker 22>that she definitely knew that, writing that she knew the

1614
01:54:15.319 --> 01:54:17.039
<v Speaker 22>individual for the last two or three years.

1615
01:54:19.439 --> 01:54:21.119
<v Speaker 2>Pleasure to meet you, Jim Hodgson.

1616
01:54:22.520 --> 01:54:22.760
<v Speaker 10>Thank you.

1617
01:54:25.000 --> 01:54:28.680
<v Speaker 1>Alison sits down with authorities and unfolds the story of

1618
01:54:28.760 --> 01:54:29.520
<v Speaker 1>their suspect.

1619
01:54:30.960 --> 01:54:32.479
<v Speaker 11>So why don't you explain to me this list that

1620
01:54:32.520 --> 01:54:33.560
<v Speaker 11>we spoke about on the phone.

1621
01:54:33.960 --> 01:54:38.079
<v Speaker 20>I met him in Orangeville, Ontario. He was working on

1622
01:54:38.920 --> 01:54:42.840
<v Speaker 20>a building which was behind my apartment that I rented

1623
01:54:42.880 --> 01:54:44.359
<v Speaker 20>with my husband at the time.

1624
01:54:44.920 --> 01:54:47.159
<v Speaker 2>You a bit of a description of them, I have

1625
01:54:47.239 --> 01:54:47.720
<v Speaker 2>a picture?

1626
01:54:48.119 --> 01:54:48.640
<v Speaker 6>Does that help?

1627
01:54:48.760 --> 01:54:49.600
<v Speaker 2>It'd be fantastic.

1628
01:54:50.439 --> 01:54:55.199
<v Speaker 1>She also provides investigators with what they want most, an identification,

1629
01:54:55.920 --> 01:54:59.800
<v Speaker 1>and was that time she gave us the name David Snow.

1630
01:55:03.159 --> 01:55:06.680
<v Speaker 11>David Snow owned a shop called Nothing in Particular and

1631
01:55:06.800 --> 01:55:10.640
<v Speaker 11>it was a knickknack shop. Alison worked for him in

1632
01:55:10.760 --> 01:55:11.720
<v Speaker 11>the knickknack shop.

1633
01:55:12.880 --> 01:55:17.159
<v Speaker 1>Allison had seen samples of Snow's distinctive handwriting on inventory

1634
01:55:17.239 --> 01:55:24.680
<v Speaker 1>lists for the store. See this is a German JU

1635
01:55:24.800 --> 01:55:26.359
<v Speaker 1>eighty seven stucid die bomber.

1636
01:55:28.560 --> 01:55:30.199
<v Speaker 6>Let's see. The thing about this plane.

1637
01:55:31.439 --> 01:55:33.239
<v Speaker 12>Is it wasn't the fastest plane.

1638
01:55:35.199 --> 01:55:38.439
<v Speaker 16>It wasn't even what did he do?

1639
01:55:38.720 --> 01:55:42.600
<v Speaker 20>He'd come over after work with Daris, who was my husband,

1640
01:55:43.720 --> 01:55:48.760
<v Speaker 20>come up to the apartment, have dinner, a couple of beers.

1641
01:55:51.560 --> 01:55:53.359
<v Speaker 16>It got to be a daily occurrence.

1642
01:55:54.439 --> 01:56:04.680
<v Speaker 20>In pretty short order. I noticed he was I had

1643
01:56:04.720 --> 01:56:09.119
<v Speaker 20>a real problem with hygiene. He had terrible body odor,

1644
01:56:10.560 --> 01:56:17.039
<v Speaker 20>like he had showered in months. It really rotten teeth,

1645
01:56:17.880 --> 01:56:18.520
<v Speaker 20>It's awful.

1646
01:56:20.000 --> 01:56:22.520
<v Speaker 1>In fact, he had the kind of bad teeth that

1647
01:56:22.640 --> 01:56:27.479
<v Speaker 1>are prone to bleeding. But despite his terrible hygiene, Alison

1648
01:56:27.560 --> 01:56:29.880
<v Speaker 1>got along well with her eccentric employer.

1649
01:56:31.239 --> 01:56:35.720
<v Speaker 20>Our relationship was okay, it was fine. It wasn't close,

1650
01:56:35.800 --> 01:56:39.439
<v Speaker 20>it wasn't just stand. It was just me doing my

1651
01:56:39.560 --> 01:56:40.479
<v Speaker 20>thing and him doing his.

1652
01:56:42.720 --> 01:56:46.680
<v Speaker 1>That is until Snow discovered that Alison was expecting her

1653
01:56:46.800 --> 01:56:47.439
<v Speaker 1>first child.

1654
01:56:49.439 --> 01:56:50.439
<v Speaker 16>David, I didn't see the.

1655
01:56:51.880 --> 01:56:52.760
<v Speaker 11>Idn't you tell me?

1656
01:56:54.079 --> 01:56:54.600
<v Speaker 16>Excuse me?

1657
01:56:56.239 --> 01:56:59.199
<v Speaker 12>He told Sherry that you were pregnant, and you never

1658
01:56:59.319 --> 01:56:59.640
<v Speaker 12>told me.

1659
01:57:03.159 --> 01:57:04.560
<v Speaker 20>He didn't react very well at all.

1660
01:57:04.840 --> 01:57:06.720
<v Speaker 11>He said, I thought I was a better friend to

1661
01:57:06.760 --> 01:57:07.079
<v Speaker 11>you than that.

1662
01:57:08.840 --> 01:57:11.640
<v Speaker 9>What I guess, I don't mean anything to you.

1663
01:57:12.640 --> 01:57:17.199
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, stormed off, you know, like he was my husband

1664
01:57:17.319 --> 01:57:17.720
<v Speaker 12>or something.

1665
01:57:19.479 --> 01:57:19.760
<v Speaker 13>It was.

1666
01:57:19.960 --> 01:57:23.600
<v Speaker 1>It just blew me away. Allison had to accept that

1667
01:57:23.800 --> 01:57:27.399
<v Speaker 1>something was very wrong with David Snow, but no one

1668
01:57:27.439 --> 01:57:30.640
<v Speaker 1>else in Orangeville seemed bothered by his peculiar ways.

1669
01:57:32.520 --> 01:57:35.119
<v Speaker 20>No one ever said anything about any of that.

1670
01:57:36.640 --> 01:57:43.039
<v Speaker 16>Ever, I felt like I was while I was the

1671
01:57:43.159 --> 01:57:43.800
<v Speaker 16>only one.

1672
01:57:45.920 --> 01:57:50.439
<v Speaker 1>In her experience. Snow's behavior continued to grow increasingly strange

1673
01:57:50.640 --> 01:57:51.560
<v Speaker 1>and unsettling.

1674
01:57:53.279 --> 01:57:57.359
<v Speaker 20>I had seen this real change in him, this slow

1675
01:57:57.479 --> 01:58:01.479
<v Speaker 20>decline in over the last few months, that I really

1676
01:58:01.560 --> 01:58:02.399
<v Speaker 20>got frightened.

1677
01:58:02.600 --> 01:58:05.039
<v Speaker 8>You know, I don't know why.

1678
01:58:05.039 --> 01:58:06.079
<v Speaker 17>I still don't know why.

1679
01:58:06.279 --> 01:58:06.720
<v Speaker 27>But I did.

1680
01:58:07.800 --> 01:58:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Authorities ask Alison where her boss is now. She has

1681
01:58:12.319 --> 01:58:16.159
<v Speaker 1>no idea. The investigation moves to the town where Snow

1682
01:58:16.279 --> 01:58:19.640
<v Speaker 1>had his shop. Police in choir after the man believed

1683
01:58:19.640 --> 01:58:22.279
<v Speaker 1>to be the house hermit and their killer.

1684
01:58:23.840 --> 01:58:25.760
<v Speaker 22>We went around with the Orangeville area there and we

1685
01:58:25.840 --> 01:58:27.119
<v Speaker 22>had aucers going door to door.

1686
01:58:27.199 --> 01:58:31.159
<v Speaker 11>Hanne O pictures of David Snow the homicide. Your area

1687
01:58:31.840 --> 01:58:33.319
<v Speaker 11>just told me, if you've seen this moment.

1688
01:58:35.039 --> 01:58:35.359
<v Speaker 27>When we.

1689
01:58:36.880 --> 01:58:38.800
<v Speaker 19>Started doing a background history on him.

1690
01:58:39.079 --> 01:58:41.039
<v Speaker 11>We found that he never drove.

1691
01:58:41.479 --> 01:58:42.399
<v Speaker 9>He walked everywhere.

1692
01:58:45.880 --> 01:58:48.600
<v Speaker 22>His older brother had tried to teach him to drive

1693
01:58:48.680 --> 01:58:52.079
<v Speaker 22>at one point and he just broke out into a sweat.

1694
01:58:52.079 --> 01:58:52.800
<v Speaker 6>He was nervous.

1695
01:58:52.880 --> 01:58:54.560
<v Speaker 22>He put the car in the ditch and jumped out

1696
01:58:54.640 --> 01:58:56.760
<v Speaker 22>and said, I want to never get inside the car again.

1697
01:58:57.960 --> 01:59:02.039
<v Speaker 1>Police also learned substantial details about Snow's departure from the

1698
01:59:02.159 --> 01:59:04.359
<v Speaker 1>area over eight months ago.

1699
01:59:04.640 --> 01:59:10.960
<v Speaker 22>October third of nineteen ninety one, he went into the

1700
01:59:11.159 --> 01:59:14.399
<v Speaker 22>taxi stand in Orangeville.

1701
01:59:13.920 --> 01:59:16.319
<v Speaker 11>Which he used, was very, very early in the morning.

1702
01:59:17.279 --> 01:59:20.800
<v Speaker 22>He was covered with mud and he was wet, and

1703
01:59:20.920 --> 01:59:24.880
<v Speaker 22>he got a riot and he paid cash and jumped

1704
01:59:24.880 --> 01:59:26.840
<v Speaker 22>out of the vehicle and wealth and that's the last

1705
01:59:26.880 --> 01:59:28.119
<v Speaker 22>that he was seen in Orangeville.

1706
01:59:31.000 --> 01:59:34.720
<v Speaker 1>The most alarming thing about Snow's disappearance is that it

1707
01:59:34.840 --> 01:59:37.239
<v Speaker 1>occurred on the very same day that the car of

1708
01:59:37.359 --> 01:59:41.159
<v Speaker 1>Toronto store owner Carolyn Case was found in a ditch

1709
01:59:41.680 --> 01:59:45.119
<v Speaker 1>in Caladen. Now the location of that car.

1710
01:59:46.640 --> 01:59:49.720
<v Speaker 19>If you follow the county road that the car was

1711
01:59:49.800 --> 01:59:56.600
<v Speaker 19>on slightly farther north, it almost runs into the area

1712
01:59:56.680 --> 01:59:59.199
<v Speaker 19>where the Snow's family homeless.

1713
02:00:00.800 --> 02:00:04.600
<v Speaker 1>David Snow may not be just a killer he may

1714
02:00:04.760 --> 02:00:06.279
<v Speaker 1>be a serial killer.

1715
02:00:07.439 --> 02:00:11.039
<v Speaker 11>I thought somebody who's committed these type of crimes is

1716
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<v Speaker 11>not going to stop until they're caught. They have no

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<v Speaker 11>regard for anybody else. So, yes, we were concerned.

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<v Speaker 1>Authorities put out a Canada wide arrest warrant for their

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<v Speaker 1>prime suspect, But as they scramble to find David Snow,

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02:00:27.479 --> 02:00:38.319
<v Speaker 1>a predator is stocking more prey. David Snow is the

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<v Speaker 1>prime suspect in the murders of Ian and Nancy Blackburn. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>just as police launch an intense search to find him,

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty one year old photostore clerk goes missing on

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<v Speaker 1>July one, nineteen ninety two. No one has seen her

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02:00:52.800 --> 02:00:55.680
<v Speaker 1>since the previous evening when she worked alone at the business.

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<v Speaker 1>On the case is RCMP investigator Randy in it. But

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<v Speaker 1>the strange thing about this crime is that it hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>taken place in Toronto or even Ontario. The victim has

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<v Speaker 1>been abducted over three thousand kilometers away in Vancouver, British Columbia.

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<v Speaker 1>Besides no witnesses, the scene offers few clues for Bennett's investigators.

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<v Speaker 29>They had absolutely no information to work on, and we're

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02:01:21.279 --> 02:01:24.359
<v Speaker 29>relying on some public assistance to try to support their investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>Law enforcement combs the city looking for the abducted woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten days later, there's still no sign of her. Then

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<v Speaker 1>on July eleventh, there's another kidnapping.

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<v Speaker 29>There have been a young lady abducted from a video

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<v Speaker 29>store in North Vancouver.

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<v Speaker 1>The only witness to the crime is a badly shaken

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02:01:51.720 --> 02:01:52.920
<v Speaker 1>video store manager.

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<v Speaker 29>It's somewhat sketchy information that lone mail individual entered the

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02:01:57.720 --> 02:02:01.319
<v Speaker 29>video store. The manager was tied up up and left

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02:02:01.359 --> 02:02:03.760
<v Speaker 29>in the building, and a female employee was removed from

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02:02:03.760 --> 02:02:07.640
<v Speaker 29>the building. The manager was able to free himself from

1744
02:02:07.720 --> 02:02:09.800
<v Speaker 29>his ligatures and made the call in that there had

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02:02:09.840 --> 02:02:13.079
<v Speaker 29>been a robbery and an abduction and the employee was missing.

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<v Speaker 1>In describing the perpetrator, the manager notes that he had

1747
02:02:18.479 --> 02:02:24.640
<v Speaker 1>terrible body odor and a mouthful of rotten teeth. Bennett

1748
02:02:24.800 --> 02:02:27.680
<v Speaker 1>learns the victim's car is missing from the parking lot

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<v Speaker 1>and a city wide dragnet begins. Among the cops on

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02:02:39.880 --> 02:02:44.439
<v Speaker 1>high alert is Constable David Kwasnika. He decides to head

1751
02:02:44.479 --> 02:02:48.439
<v Speaker 1>from Mount Seymour Provincial Park as the area best fits

1752
02:02:48.520 --> 02:02:50.720
<v Speaker 1>his theory about the man they are hunting.

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<v Speaker 12>I felt that the suspect was abducting this woman in

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02:02:57.920 --> 02:03:03.439
<v Speaker 12>order to sexually assault her and would likely take the

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02:03:03.520 --> 02:03:05.199
<v Speaker 12>woman to a secluded area.

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<v Speaker 1>Quasnika drives around the corner in a remote area of

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<v Speaker 1>the park.

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<v Speaker 12>And that's where we found the vehicle.

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<v Speaker 29>They called it in the location where they were at,

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02:03:20.000 --> 02:03:22.800
<v Speaker 29>and we were sending extra members to reinforce and to

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<v Speaker 29>provide backup for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Quasnika and his partner proceed to secure the vehicle and

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02:03:33.600 --> 02:03:36.600
<v Speaker 1>look for any clues the abductor may have left behind.

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<v Speaker 12>And at that point, that's when we heard the screaming

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<v Speaker 12>from the forest.

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<v Speaker 1>Tucked in the woods just off the road, Kwasnika discovers

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02:03:51.239 --> 02:03:55.680
<v Speaker 1>the badly assaulted victim from the video store. At least

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02:03:55.720 --> 02:03:56.279
<v Speaker 1>she's alive.

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<v Speaker 12>She was in a squatting position, her wrists were tied

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02:04:01.920 --> 02:04:04.800
<v Speaker 12>to her ankles, and just.

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<v Speaker 1>As backup arise, Quasnika gets another shot.

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<v Speaker 12>And I started running towards the screams that I heard.

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<v Speaker 1>Not far from the first victim, the officers discover a

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<v Speaker 1>makeshift campsite. Tied to a tree is another woman who's

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02:04:25.439 --> 02:04:26.840
<v Speaker 1>been severely brutalized.

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<v Speaker 11>Did you see where he was?

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<v Speaker 1>Was Nica immediately recognizes her as the victim kidnapped ten

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02:04:32.800 --> 02:04:34.640
<v Speaker 1>days earlier from the photo store.

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<v Speaker 29>Then crime scene had some sleeping bags and personal articles

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02:04:40.479 --> 02:04:43.840
<v Speaker 29>and personal clothing and some food, garbage and debris.

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<v Speaker 1>Quasnika and his partner try to comfort the traumatized woman.

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<v Speaker 12>What disturbed me was how this victim reacted with no reaction,

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02:04:55.880 --> 02:05:01.920
<v Speaker 12>just like very calm, cool, collected and monotone voice.

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<v Speaker 1>As the women are escorted out of the woods, more

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02:05:15.239 --> 02:05:18.439
<v Speaker 1>police move in and the hunt for the perpetrator kicks

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02:05:18.479 --> 02:05:19.239
<v Speaker 1>into high gear.

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<v Speaker 29>They are directed that we would deploy other police cars

1788
02:05:24.520 --> 02:05:27.000
<v Speaker 29>to start setting up for robblocks and try to contain

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02:05:27.239 --> 02:05:30.039
<v Speaker 29>a male suspect that had flat off into the bushes.

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<v Speaker 1>But given the nature of Mount Seymour Park, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be easy.

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02:05:35.159 --> 02:05:39.760
<v Speaker 29>It's very densely treed with lots of undergrowth and so forth,

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02:05:39.840 --> 02:05:42.479
<v Speaker 29>and because it's on a mountain slope, you can probably

1794
02:05:42.560 --> 02:05:44.920
<v Speaker 29>hide in any crevice or corner, or a cracker under

1795
02:05:44.920 --> 02:05:48.239
<v Speaker 29>any trees or bushes and stay hidden for quite some

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02:05:48.319 --> 02:05:48.880
<v Speaker 29>period of time.

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<v Speaker 1>As the massive manhunt gets under way, authorities searching the

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02:05:54.239 --> 02:05:56.239
<v Speaker 1>second victim's car find a gun.

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02:05:57.279 --> 02:06:00.399
<v Speaker 29>The police officers call the serial numbers into our and

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02:06:00.439 --> 02:06:02.840
<v Speaker 29>the round him on the national database.

1801
02:06:03.800 --> 02:06:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Bennett learns that the gun was stolen in a cottage

1802
02:06:06.840 --> 02:06:10.199
<v Speaker 1>robbery in Ontario by a man wanted on a countrywide

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02:06:10.319 --> 02:06:14.039
<v Speaker 1>murder warrant. His name is David Snow.

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<v Speaker 22>I get a call from a British Columbia and I think,

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<v Speaker 22>as your fellow looking for.

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<v Speaker 11>Oh, it's totally shocked.

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<v Speaker 6>You're serious.

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<v Speaker 1>Ontario police can only hope that BC authorities will do

1809
02:06:34.520 --> 02:06:39.880
<v Speaker 1>what they could not find and capture their killer. Concerns

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02:06:39.920 --> 02:06:43.199
<v Speaker 1>about a psychopath loose in the park are soon compounded

1811
02:06:43.760 --> 02:06:47.039
<v Speaker 1>when authorities learn that a marathon is taking place.

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<v Speaker 12>We were worried that he would grab another victim.

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<v Speaker 1>As night falls, the manhunt becomes much more difficult, but

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<v Speaker 1>failure is not an option.

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<v Speaker 29>We had one of the greatest threats to the community

1816
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<v Speaker 29>that the community has seen in.

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<v Speaker 1>Your long time, and for a local restaurant owner, it's

1818
02:07:13.640 --> 02:07:21.520
<v Speaker 1>a threat that's all too real. After abducting and assaulting

1819
02:07:21.600 --> 02:07:25.239
<v Speaker 1>two women in Vancouver, David Snow is being hunted by

1820
02:07:25.319 --> 02:07:30.239
<v Speaker 1>police in Mount Seymour Provincial Park. They don't know he's

1821
02:07:30.359 --> 02:07:33.880
<v Speaker 1>managed to flee the area and choose another victim at

1822
02:07:33.920 --> 02:07:42.039
<v Speaker 1>a secluded restaurant Snow forces the woman to the back

1823
02:07:42.079 --> 02:07:45.399
<v Speaker 1>of the building, but he's unaware that she was able

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02:07:45.479 --> 02:07:53.560
<v Speaker 1>to trigger the restaurant's silent alarm. With most law enforcement

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02:07:53.680 --> 02:07:57.880
<v Speaker 1>resources diverted to Mount Seymour, it falls on Constable Peter

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02:07:58.039 --> 02:08:01.279
<v Speaker 1>Cross and his partner John Westlock to respond.

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<v Speaker 26>We were doing what you would call standard routine police calls.

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<v Speaker 26>We got two calls for alarms. One was an Edgemond

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<v Speaker 26>village and the second alarm was for the Bridgehouse restaurant.

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<v Speaker 9>To this day, I have no.

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<v Speaker 26>Idea why I chose the Bridge House because we were

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02:08:16.640 --> 02:08:19.039
<v Speaker 26>actually driving by the other alarm to get to the

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<v Speaker 26>Bridge House for alarm.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing appears out of place upon their arrival, and they

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02:08:25.199 --> 02:08:50.960
<v Speaker 1>can't hear the victim. Constable Cross finally arrives at the

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<v Speaker 1>back of the building.

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<v Speaker 26>Three and that's when he starts running.

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<v Speaker 1>In one fell swoop. Cross brings to an end Snow's

1839
02:09:11.079 --> 02:09:12.159
<v Speaker 1>deadly rampage.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll go back to the woman back there.

1841
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<v Speaker 9>She needs help.

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<v Speaker 26>I said, you're a fellow we're looking for, and he said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 26>I think so.

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<v Speaker 9>You're gonna be okay. Can you hear me?

1845
02:09:35.039 --> 02:09:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Snow's victim is alive, if just bare.

1846
02:09:38.239 --> 02:09:41.239
<v Speaker 26>We were told by the hospital staff if she was

1847
02:09:41.319 --> 02:09:45.600
<v Speaker 26>thirty to forty five seconds away from dying. To come

1848
02:09:45.680 --> 02:09:47.960
<v Speaker 26>across someone that is in the process of being killed

1849
02:09:48.119 --> 02:09:51.359
<v Speaker 26>is extremely rare. To have the ability to stop it

1850
02:09:51.640 --> 02:09:53.720
<v Speaker 26>and have the ability to catch the guy doing it.

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<v Speaker 26>I think is yeah, it's one of those moments in

1852
02:09:56.439 --> 02:09:58.880
<v Speaker 26>time that, yeah, you're pretty proud of it when you're done.

1853
02:10:04.600 --> 02:10:07.239
<v Speaker 1>Snow first stands trial in British Columbia.

1854
02:10:09.000 --> 02:10:12.319
<v Speaker 29>We were able to secure convictions against David Snow for

1855
02:10:12.439 --> 02:10:18.600
<v Speaker 29>several counts of abduction, forceable confinement, sexual assault, and aggravated assault.

1856
02:10:21.199 --> 02:10:25.039
<v Speaker 1>After being sentenced, he's returned to Ontario to stand trial

1857
02:10:25.119 --> 02:10:26.640
<v Speaker 1>for the Blackburn homicides.

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02:10:28.439 --> 02:10:32.680
<v Speaker 19>A DNA sample is obtained from him and it's subsequently

1859
02:10:32.840 --> 02:10:36.439
<v Speaker 19>matched to the blood in the Blackburn car.

1860
02:10:37.880 --> 02:10:41.319
<v Speaker 1>Police see that years of neglect have left Snow's gums

1861
02:10:41.520 --> 02:10:45.439
<v Speaker 1>prone to bleeding. Poor hygie caused him to leave key

1862
02:10:45.560 --> 02:10:46.399
<v Speaker 1>evidence behind.

1863
02:10:47.560 --> 02:10:50.039
<v Speaker 11>On top of all the circumstantial evidence that we had.

1864
02:10:50.680 --> 02:10:55.119
<v Speaker 11>That was the bonus to show that there was David

1865
02:10:55.199 --> 02:10:59.520
<v Speaker 11>Snow's blood and the deceased car that was irrefutable.

1866
02:11:04.920 --> 02:11:08.359
<v Speaker 1>David Snow is convicted of two counts of first degree murder.

1867
02:11:09.119 --> 02:11:12.319
<v Speaker 1>The body of Carolyn Case is eventually recovered, but for

1868
02:11:12.479 --> 02:11:15.479
<v Speaker 1>lack of evidence, he's never charged with her slaying.

1869
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<v Speaker 22>I don't believe that there's any redeeming merit and David

1870
02:11:19.000 --> 02:11:21.920
<v Speaker 22>Snow whatsoever. He's not an individual that could come back

1871
02:11:21.960 --> 02:11:22.760
<v Speaker 22>into the community.

1872
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<v Speaker 11>The viciousness that he displayed, his ruthlessness, I find to

1873
02:11:31.479 --> 02:11:32.960
<v Speaker 11>be just sure.

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<v Speaker 9>I have no idea what droll from.

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<v Speaker 26>Said psychiatrist will spend years studying as to what prompted

1876
02:11:39.720 --> 02:11:40.640
<v Speaker 26>him to this behavior.

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02:11:43.640 --> 02:11:44.560
<v Speaker 16>We're driving home.

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<v Speaker 20>Ten or eleven o'clock at night, two of us on

1879
02:11:49.880 --> 02:11:54.479
<v Speaker 20>the Peach Block dirt roads. I never thought twice about it.

1880
02:11:57.319 --> 02:12:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Declared a dangerous offender. David Snow will spend the rest

1881
02:12:01.640 --> 02:12:03.800
<v Speaker 1>of his life behind bars.

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<v Speaker 21>Dot Tpnking Ink Dogs doing Condy the co Cony

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<v Speaker 16>S coming in
