Speaker 1: I made a decision.
Speaker 2: Pay sunny sound on ahead a vision. It's night.
Speaker 1: What's up motherfuckers? Happy Tuesday?
Speaker 2: Yay, so much to talk about, I know. So today's
election day?
Speaker 1: Yes for us?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is it for other places? Could be but at Los Angeles,
big big one. Yeah.
Speaker 2: California. Yeah, California is electing a governor. Hello governor. So
I almost it's so crazy. Okay, it's it's not that crazy.
But maybe some people who live in California will relate
to this. The struggle, the struggle is real. Yeah, the governor.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so but Sarah is for.
Speaker 2: Democrats, right, So that's Steve Hilton is the Republican that
we do not want.
Speaker 1: We would love for him to not even be on
the ballot.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Isn't he a foreigner? He's like British?
Speaker 2: Uh oh yeah yeah yeah yeah, fuck that guy.
Speaker 1: Anyway.
Speaker 2: Also this guy Bianco who's not even who's not gonna
make it now. But there's two Besarah and Tom Steyer.
A lot of people are like Tom Styre is just
a billionaire, you know, And Okay, every morning I wake
up and I look at threads, Yeah, and I shouldn't
want it's just.
Speaker 1: So toxic over there.
Speaker 2: It's it's almost as bad as Twitter if you're in
the right algorithm. It's a lot of pretty left leaning fun.
There's some interesting stories, but then you there's so much transphobia.
I can't even tell you how people are just like hateful. Yes,
but anyway, this doesn't have that much to do well.
It is related in a roundabout way. So I have
been feeling really torn because and I'm not gonna I'm
not gonna this is not all this is not like
all political. It's just that there's some really good things
about Besara. So remember Eric Swalwell, the scandal, Yeah, got
kicked out.
Speaker 1: We were all going to vote for Swallwell.
Speaker 2: We all loved Swallwell, and then we found out that
he's a terrible guy. Yeah you know, sexual assault.
Speaker 1: Or et cetera.
Speaker 2: Bye, okay, now we were all like okay, what now, Hey,
who are we voting for? Right, And then people were
like deciding and like, let's get Then everybody kind of
got behind Sarah Katie Porter. Used to be a big
fan of Katie Porter. Some just some really not great
stuff has come out about us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, some of our stuff.
Speaker 2: And also some of it's kind of funny, but she's
got a temper, but.
Speaker 1: He does seem to have a temper.
Speaker 2: The thing that really puts a bad taste in my
mouth now is like, get out of the fucking race.
Speaker 1: She should have gotten out of the race. Like that just.
Speaker 2: Shows what a narcissist you are if you're like, you
have no chance of winning, but now you're just gonna
fuck it f for everybody. Yeah, get out, yeah, yeah.
But we have what's called a jungle primary, which is like,
you know, there's like a fucking name to ball it. Okay,
but here's the thing, but Sarah is kind of the
safe choice at this point. A lot of people are
very mad at Tom Steyer, and you know, they're just like,
he's a billionaire. We're not going to allow that. He's
just gonna he's gonna get in there and then just
do a bunch of billionaire ship for himself.
Speaker 1: But I kind of like him, and I I.
Speaker 2: Mean and also in some weird ways, even though it's different.
Speaker 1: And some of you guys.
Speaker 2: Are screaming at me right now and you're mad, and
that's okay. I totally understand. If we were on threads,
you'd all come for me and cancel me, and I
was going back and forth. Okay, here was my thinking.
So Tom Steyer has been very vocally on the side
of trans writes right, and it takes some balls to
see yes, to just be like, I don't care, this
is what I stand for right now. Some people might say,
but but Sarah has always stood for trans write right.
Speaker 1: But has he?
Speaker 2: Like, if you really go back anyway, a lot of
people are like beautiful people people. Many people are like, well,
Tom Steyer, like, he has had really shitty views in
the past, and all of a sudden he's running for governor.
Speaker 1: What is his past? What did he what's his He's.
Speaker 2: A billionaire who's done a lot of He's been invested
in a lot of shady like you know, a lot
of shady steeds and not shady stuff. But but he's
been for himself and he's.
Speaker 3: So he doesn't have a history of working in politics.
He's more of a business guy. Yes, yeah, I don't
think there's anything wrong just because they're a business person.
You know, I think this state kind of has to
be run like a business, right, you know, I think
I'd rather have maybe a business person than another politicians
that just says everything you want to hear and then
doesn't end up doing anything right.
Speaker 1: Listen, it's so hard to know.
Speaker 2: So John and I were going back and forth and
back and forth and back and forth. Then I saw
we've been watching these polls really carefully. Now I am
hoping that Tom Stier gets enough votes that he and
Besarah become the only ones on the ticket. We can
only do that if some people vote for Sire because
but Sarah is ahead. He's like a twenty eight percent,
Stires at like twenty two percent, and Hilton's at like
twenty one last I check. So I was like, fuck it,
I'm voting for Styre. But then I was like, I
can't tell anybody except I can say it on the
podcast and I'll put up with the backlash there. But
you can't say something like that. You can't put it
on like threads because people will just be.
Speaker 3: Like, you're so stupid. Oh God, everybody's stupid.
Speaker 2: Because Mark Ruffalo said you wanted to vote for he
was voting for Syre. He expressed support, and so did
Jane Fonda, by the way, and people lost their minds
at Mark Ruffalo. But anyway, so I did my ballot
John did his ballot, and then Elbie did her ballot.
She's home, and then I took our ballot. Oh okay,
but here's what happened.
Speaker 1: What happened. I filled out my ballot but accidentally. Okay.
Speaker 2: Also, I should have voted for I know I should
have voted for Karen Bass, but like a lot of people,
I do not think she has done a great job,
and she's done a bad job. Of course, I don't
want Spencer Pratt in there, like that's crazy.
Speaker 1: But I did put in. I did do my vote
for Nthia Anythia. Yeah. So here's the thing.
Speaker 2: I had accidentally, not accidentally, but I had voted for
Karen Bass, and I was like fuck. And then I
had made a couple of other mistakes, so I was like,
this is my mail in ballot. So I'm like, damn it,
I gotta go vote in person. This is why I
have always vote in person. I don't I'm always afraid
I'm gonna fuck something up or miss something.
Speaker 1: I don't know, and I like it. It's kind of
like a tradition. It's fun. It was fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I have to walk fill down the street
to vote. Can't do that anymore.
Speaker 1: But all right.
Speaker 2: So I went in person to our closest polling place
and then I gate, you have to. I turned in
my gave them my ballot, and then they canceled it
out and then I okay, voted with the machine.
Speaker 1: And then I had Lbie and.
Speaker 2: John's ballots and they have to be dropped off in
the ballot box.
Speaker 1: So this morning I walked.
Speaker 2: Bob, sorry, oh no, no, I walked into the ballot box.
But this is where you'll feel better to do that.
I had to go through the park. I had to
go through Balbo Park, which is just fucking lousy with squirrels,
and Bob is obsessed with squirrels.
Speaker 1: And sure enough.
Speaker 2: There was one squirrel and he just told me so
hard that I luckily did not make the mistake I
made when I broke my foot and I just let.
Speaker 1: Go the leash.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I was like, sometimes you have to do that,
I know, go go go try right, and then I
but oh but when I before I let go the leash,
I fell because he's so strong he pulled me off
my feet.
Speaker 1: I fell.
Speaker 2: So instead of getting dragged, I just like my leash
and let him go do his thing, right, right, I know,
and then somebody was like, are you okay? And yes,
when I voted exactly. I hate when I see people
fall like that.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: There's something about somebody tripping and falling that really breaks
my heart.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but you can't help
but laugh, right I do laugh.
Speaker 3: Yes, but it's like, aham, so, so you got all that.
Speaker 1: That's good, that's all taken care of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that all that is to say who I
voted for, So you guys can all come for me.
Speaker 3: Yep, you know, everybody listen, we all live here and
we have to make what we think is the right choice.
And I think I'm with you with Styre, like you know,
I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just I live in a different district too,
so I have a different we have a different mayor.
Especially if I'm going to be moving to Santa Clarita too,
that's going to be a whole different story. But so
but yeah, so tomorrow I'm going to go vote Ma
and Italia good. Yeah, me and my girl yeah uh
so yes. So Ni's Sonny was home for a couple
of days for his dad's birthday and Walk of Fame
got his walk star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and.
Speaker 1: They enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: They had a long day, but they went to this
celebration because they got to see Jimmy cousin, sal Tony
Barbieri was there, Daniel Kellison like, oh wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: They called Daniel uncle buzz a boo uh huh because
he was always buzzed when we would, you know, hang
out with back and then anyway, So yeah, they had
and they saw Ray and Chris Ray and some of
the ace holes were there and it was a nice day.
Speaker 1: And the huh was Addie? All yeah, Addie was there. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was getting texts throughout the day like so great
seeing your kids. I haven't seen him in a long time.
Ray texted me. Addie texted me Olga was there. Olga
wa with the kids. She didn't want to go by herself,
so she came to our house and they went together,
which was cute, and then they came back to my
house hung out and then they had a big steak dinner.
Speaker 1: But the thing I bring it up.
Speaker 3: Is that if you haven't seen it, Jimmy's Jimmy's speech
that he had to give for Adam was so touching
and so sweet, and he got choked up, start crying
a little bit, a little bit like he said something
like people know that Adam and I don't see I.
I to I and politics, but but I want him
to know, like I'm proud of him.
Speaker 1: And then he got choked up and he goes, I.
Speaker 3: Am because he was thinking about And it did bring
me back to when you know, I was dating Adam
like two months after he met Jimmy. So I saw
that relationship blossom and they loved each other and was
they would not leave each other's side. And Jimmy, I
feel like he was thinking about back because then he
brought up you know, Adam was grew up in Los
Angeles and you know, grew up poor whatever and made
himself out of something and blah blah blah. So I
could see, like, you know, that nostalgic thing coming back
to Jimmy, which was really sweet. And then they all
met for dinner that night and had a nice dinner,
and Jimmy slipped my kids a little christ a little
birthday gift because my kids are going to be twenty
in a couple of days.
Speaker 1: Wow, in a couple of days. Yeah. June seventh. Oh
my god, I for twenty years old. Yeah, yeah, twenty
years old. Yeah. So it was really sweet.
Speaker 3: And I sent him an email and thanked him, and
he wrote back and he said something like it was
so great seeing your kids. And then he said, you
give him like five dollars.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I gave him like in nicols.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's very generous.
Speaker 1: Gave him some cash.
Speaker 3: And then he said yeah, and then he said it
was great seenior kids. And then he said and Ray
didn't throw any feces, so I would say it was
a good day.
Speaker 1: Oh that's funny. Yeah. So because our Ray is sober. Yes,
we love Ray, I know.
Speaker 3: So then Ray started texting me and asking, you know,
he's like, it was good to see your kids, and
I miss you know, seeing you. I was telling him
that I'm looking to buy a house and uh he
was like, you know, Ray has good aesthetics. You know,
he comes from that construction background. And I told him
I was looking at the new development houses and he
was like, I said, I need somebody to come with me.
You know, it's a big decision by myself. Yeah, and
I would love for you to come look. So he
was like, any time you want I'll come out there
and check him out, so he's gonna come with me.
I took Sunny to look at the new houses before
he left, and uh, he loved it. He loved it
out there. He was like, yeah, it was like it's
not that bad. It's not that bad. It's not that's
too far of a drive. It's going to be an adjustment.
But I showed him the couple different houses that are
available and the different layouts and he liked it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that made me happy.
Speaker 3: So I got one down and I got to take
Natalia out there and one to go.
Speaker 1: So did you see anything?
Speaker 2: It was just more of looking at like it's stuff
that has to get ready and you have to think
you figure out the landscaping.
Speaker 3: And yeah, because I'm still on the list of getting
listings twice a week of any other new listings out
there of just regular houses that are not new development,
and there's nothing. It's the same five houses every week,
maybe another one a new one that came up that
I liked, but it was like way over my price.
I was like, okay with no pool. So I'm like,
you know, if I'm going to get a house out there,
I might as well just get a brand new house
and put it the way I want it and like
it and within my budget. And yeah, so you know,
so I think I'm gonna be pulling the trigger pretty quick.
Speaker 1: I think I have to. Wow. Yeah, I mean, you know,
clock's a ticken.
Speaker 3: So I want to get going, like soon, the sooner
I get in the new house, the sooner I get
my little my little boy dog yo. I want to
get a little boy. Name him maybe Luca. I'd say
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Speaker 3: Veto, veto, No, get over here, Vita hey veto.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah you want that, and then you can call
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Speaker 3: Yeah. So his home and Italia's home. Yeah, well, no,
Sonny went back. Senny's back to school. He just came
home for it, right, okay, because he's not going to
be done until mid June.
Speaker 2: Okay, that the Italian's home. Yeah yeah, so he's on
the same schedule as Lbie. Yes, right, she graduates Today's
believe she graduates a.
Speaker 1: Week into in like two weeks.
Speaker 3: I cannot believe that you have a daughter graduating UCLA.
It's when you had a daughter that could, that didn't
make herself a bagel when I met you.
Speaker 1: I know, I and two h three year olds.
Speaker 2: Like crazy, this is how long we've been together. I
know she's graduating college. That's insane, and I know it
feels like yesterday that I was just like Lynette, I can't,
I can't do it. It's too hard, it's too much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, little kid three little kiddies. Yeah, were you gonna
tell me?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a story and you were okay, well
you were gonna. I feel like you were gonna either
compliment me or backhand.
Speaker 3: This is what Okay, it ties into this, Okay, Okay.
So over the weekend, we've talked about my friend Glenn.
He's got four kids. He's got three girls and a son.
The son's the youngest, his daughter's second oldest daughter is
the same age as Sonny in Italia, and he has
the house on the lake and by Lake Havasu Lake House.
And Glenn calls me over the weekend at like where
he sent me a text on Saturday night, at like
eleven thirty at night, his phone is off, like he's
a dad, and he's down for the count by like
nine o'clock, but he call.
Speaker 1: He texts me, are you up at eleven thirty?
Speaker 3: And I happen to be up because Natalia had friends over,
which you'll hear about on Patreon. So he calls to
tell me that, Okay, a lot of parents can relate
to this. Remember when I took these kids to the
stage coach and I was the only parent, and luckily
my friend met me down there. He took his daughter
and a bunch of her friends to the to the
river for the weekend, and a couple guys, a couple
of girls, and you know, he had two guy friends
that were that were with him that were older, you know,
his age. I think he said one of them was
a experienced lifeguard.
Speaker 1: And the kids wanted.
Speaker 3: To go wakeboarding take him out on the wake So
he has a boat, takes the kids out. He never
even when he's with us, he never drinks when he's
driving the boat ever, and so okay, so he's sober,
and he's not really a big drinker anyway. But so
he wants the kids want to learn how to lake wakeboard,
so he hires this woman that's very experience in teaching
kids to wakeboard. So he has her on board, plus
his guy friend that's like a lifeguard. Okay, and then
like you know, six or seven kids okay, so they
he also has them sign a waiver. And some of
these kids are like nineteen and twenty years old, so
they sign. Everybody signs a waiver. So he's got like
his shit protected. There's one kid he doesn't know that well,
but he's athletic. He's tall, he's like plays water polo,
I sing and so he's out there, he's trying to
get up on the wakeboard. He gets up a couple
times and then he falls and he's down for the
count and he can't get up and he's like screaming
in pain, and they get him.
Speaker 1: They put him in the.
Speaker 3: Boat and he was in pain, and it turns out
broke his femur and snapped it in half.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 3: Glenn, who's very calm and collected and it's got his
shit together, was freaking out because it happened that day
at like eleven. He's still the kid had to be
airlifted to the hospital in Arizona and they had to
give him like ketamine because the morphine wasn't working enough.
It was in so much pain. Glen was freaked out,
beyond freaked out. And also he said that he said
that that the parents of the kid still it was
like midnight, haven't reached out the Glen.
Speaker 1: What which is weird? Where did the parents go to
the hospital.
Speaker 3: Yes, the parents flew out went to the hospital. But
one of the kids, when I kept asking that that
that's weird. He would tell me that one of the
girls is very close with his parents, the kid's parents.
Speaker 2: Wait, why did he have to be airlifted to Arizona. Wait,
it's in Arizona. They're in Arizona. Oh, they're at the river,
like it's by Lake Avisu. Okay, so there's like the
hospital in Arizona. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So yes, So the parents came out, went to the hospital,
but never like reached out to Glenn and and it
was just he was so rattled, like he but I
kept telling him. I said, Glenn, you did everything right.
You had them sign waivers. Nobody was drinking, the kids,
weren't you weren't drinking, kids were nothing on board.
Speaker 2: Yes, shit happens, It happens. But he was like, I can't.
He was sending me these texts yesterday.
Speaker 3: So the kid had surgery yesterday, and he said, you
would not believe what happened. One of the kids had
to be Oh, oh that's the original text. He said
that he wanted to tell me that. One of the
paramedics called the wakeboarding coach and commended everyone on board,
said they did a great job with the boat and
they were very impressed, which is comforting. But still, you know,
the kid was in surgery yesterday and still have not
heard from the kid's parents. Kid made it out of surgery.
They put a rod in his and his feet and
the rat.
Speaker 2: How's he finding out about what's going on with the
surgery if there, if the parents aren't contacting him.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure because I'd just been texting with Glenn.
He even sent me a picture of the of the
X ray of the break, which is awful. So he
must be talking to somebody. I don't know he's you know,
he was just traumatized. And so anyway, I was at
Suzanne's house last night, her new house with Suzanne and Dawn.
We've known Glenn since he was fourteen years old his dad.
We met him like three months after his dad died suddenly,
like a heart attack. His mom was this crazy Jewish
like zel Marie. We used to call her zel Marie
the Barbarian and she'd scream at Glenn. She was and
it was just him. He had an older brother that
was already out of the house. So Glenn was like fourteen.
He dated Dawn for a long time. He was a
total dick. He was like cocky as shit, driving his
four or fifty five, Like if you would have told
us what a great father and how successful Glenn turned
out with no cou didn't even graduate high school, went
to Birmingham, didn't graduate, and just went to work and
built a family business for himself. Successful, great husband, great father.
This is what I was saying, Like if you would
have told us back then, like hey, in thirty years
from now, this is how Glenn is going to be
the father of these, you know, beautiful kids that are successful,
A great husband, great debt, built his own business, super responsible.
We would have been like, get the fuck out of here,
no way, Glenn. You mean the guy that fucking makes
you guzzle one fifty one at the drive in that
like writs all over you with a sharpie when you
pass out. That Glenn, Glenn the one that fights with
Don and calls her a psycho bitch and like yells
at like like they would fight all the time, like
and Don was so over dramatic, like Glenn pushed me
down those stairs, you know, Like Glenn never laid a
hand on anybody, but that's how they were. They were,
like he called Don Norman Bates, you know for psycho
he was, and he was you know, he cheated on
all his girlfriends, but like it's just insane. But anyway,
that is like a traumatic thing that happened to my friend.
Speaker 2: I mean, what do you think happened with Glenn? Like
when did the change happen? We were thinking about it
because I don't know. I think in our twenties, everybody
floated in different directions. Everybody got like especially us girls,
we got married, had kids.
Speaker 3: Glenn was just went to work. And I think that
Glenn has always been very smart. That's why we loved it.
He's very charismatic, it's very funny, but he's also got
a good like survival instinct. You know, he was on
his own at age fourteen pretty much, you know, just
running a muck and left to his own devices. Like
I said, didn't graduate, and I think he just realized,
like I got to get my shit together. At some point,
I'm becoming a man. I need to start working. I
don't know how he got into his businesses selling airplane parts.
I think he's got a big warehouse, got employees that
work for him, listens to our show three days, four
days a week. And you know, I think when he
met his wife, he probably started to settle down because
she's not like him. She's very sweet. She's not like
Dawn like she's very you know, she was a school teacher.
I think, great mother, great wife, and I think he
like fell in love and was like this is and
hates people that cheat like he we have friends we
talked about.
Speaker 1: He does not.
Speaker 3: He's not down for that. Like I would never cheat
on my way. You know, he's just got I don't know,
it's just it's crazy. Yeah, we all turned out to
be great parents, but he's the one where we would
have been like thought he would be in jail, like
it's something or you know, I don't know. I mean,
we never but we were sitting around last night really
thinking about it, and then Suzanne brought up this story
where we were in Lake HAVISU when we were like
sixteen or seventeen. Suzanne broke her shoulder. Some guy picked
her up and like started drunk, started carrying her and
then fell and she dislocated her shoulder. So we were
in Laughlin and she went to the hospital and then
she had to be like in bed the rest of
the trip. And she was like, we were talking about
it yesterday and she's like you know, took care of
me and stayed with me and didn't go out un
even back then. And he took care of our friend
that died from cancer when she was dying. Really that
we were thinking, not Jen. We had another friend Shannon
that died. That was she was dying and nobody was
taking care of her. She lived by herself. Her mom
died of cancer too. She smoked a lot, not as
much as me. How old was she She died when
she was like twenty two. Oh my god, Yeah she
had she had like some kind of cancer even when
she was young, like at fourteen, cervical cancer. But then
ran in her family and yeah, she was living on
her by herself and nobody was. Glenn would go over
there and help bathe her, brought her food when he
didn't have any money. He'd at that time, he wasn't married,
he didn't have his own business. He was just working
and he would just he was like, I just felt
for her. So, you know, he's always had that risk
like do the right thing mentality. He's like he makes
his kids work for everything they want, put some on
the butt, like he's really I look for him for
advice a lot too, So anyway. I mean, it's it's
you know, it's a story that I thought a lot
of parents maybe some could relate, you know, when you're
taking your kids and their friends on a vacation and
accidents do happen.
Speaker 1: But he was trump.
Speaker 3: He couldn't sleep, and the next day he was like,
I just feel awful, awful for their pant for the
kid and his parents, you know. But now he's at
his surgery and it's okay. But yeah, I mean, well, yeah,
I mean, stuff happens.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Also, it's funny because I was thinking when we were
talking on our Patreon about the fact that, like I
was just not a good kid, right, that came up
on our Patreon, and it's like, up until I had
a kid, I was unsure if I was going to
have a kid because I don't know. There's a thing
where I feel very irresponse, like how I see myself
and how I am in the world. Because John always
laughs at me because he's like, you see yourself as
this like rebel, like crazy, like you know, underdog, and
he goes, it's carried over from when you were young,
because you're not like that. You're not the way you
pursued yourself and I'm like ill being like a badass.
Speaker 1: But then I'm always like, oh, I'll do the right thing.
Speaker 3: Well, no, but you like definitely stuck up for your
kids when they were in school and writing letters and
emails and stuff.
Speaker 2: Yes, but is that even But that's not really being
like a like I almost see myself as this slacker mom.
That's like, you know, but I overcare. I've overinvested. But
I wasn't sure how I would be because I wasn't
raised by somebody who was well, they were very underinvested
in my happiness or well being. I would say they
didn't care that much. I mean, I was just thinking though,
and I've you know, I've told you this story before.
Speaker 1: But when I was I.
Speaker 2: Think the moment, I mean, I had a I didn't
feel very loved as a young kid. I think I
had a lot of anger in me and that's one
of the things that drove my kind of like doing
bad things. Also, I do have a little bit of
a spicy personality. Yeah, so maybe there was a lack
of empathy, I don't know, whatever.
Speaker 1: I was kind of bullied.
Speaker 3: So then I have to lead others right right now.
It wasn't great. No, but it makes sense to me
because of how your parents treated you, like you know,
you felt like you had to protect yourself. Because if
your parents aren't going to like look out for you
and have empathy and protect you, who's going to I
at a young.
Speaker 1: Age, like I only had yehself? Yeah for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think that built up that you know,
tough shell.
Speaker 2: But the moment, I would say that the moment, like
if I could, if there was a before and an
after for me, it would be like I said, I've
told you this story, but it would be when I
was when we'd moved to We moved from Spokane, Washington
to Springfield, Massachusetts, and we were staying with this woman.
Speaker 1: Who and you were howled I was.
Speaker 2: I had just turned sixteen so when we were I
mean it was the summer, so I'm a July birthday,
So we moved like that summer. So I had was
fifteen probably when we left, and then I was sixteen
when we got there. And as I as I told
you this story, my stepfather had not been speaking to
me for a while. He just didn't like me. So
I was going to have to travel separately. I did
not want to move I had just fought we I
had only moved in before seventh grade, so I'd lived
in Spokane seventh, eighth, ninth, and tenth, and I'd made
I had I had a super best friend. I was
a best friender. I had my friend Jamie, and she
was my best best friend.
Speaker 1: And you didn't have a family, you had your friends.
He was my she was my family.
Speaker 2: I slept at her house all the time. She lived
across the street from me. Her mom kind of felt
like my mom. One time when my mom threw a
jar at me across the room, a glass like a
mason jar, and it shattered on the wall above my head,
and there was glass in my hair. I wrote about
this in Drunkish, and they the freaking legal department of
drunk of my book company, was asking me if I
wanted to for sure put this in the book because
I could get sued. And I was like, yeah, it happened.
My friend will attest to it. She remembered it totally clearly. Hmm.
I went crying over to her house. I had glass
all in my hair and on my clothes and her
I sat on the floor in front of her. Mom
sat on a chair behind me, and picked glass out
of my hair. Oh my god, like an hour and
our stephan her her mom, who was a total alcoholic
died of alcoholism, was still like freaking five times. The
parent like right, She was like, I can't believe your parents.
Speaker 1: They're awful, like and that too.
Speaker 3: Makes an impression on a young kid's brain when you
hear other parents talking like, hey, your parents are fucking
you know, dipshits.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. So many of my friends.
Speaker 2: So we moved to Springfield and I'm staying at this
woman's house who was a total crazy nightmare, this woman
that was a friend of my mother's, and we're staying
at her house and I get into an argument with her. Shocking,
I know, but she was really crazy and she accused me,
remember the story. She accused me of spilling nail polish
on her carpet. And I was like, do you see
I did not polish my nails. Your daughter did. She
was like, my daughter would never and I was like,
I didn't use any nail polish. I didn't spill any
nail polish. And then she started screaming at me. And
then my mother did not stick up for me, and
then I it was really really awful. So my mother
kicks me out of the house, which is not her house.
Speaker 1: This was this was it. I was like, okay.
Speaker 2: My mom, at just turned sixteen, was like, by sea,
get out of this house. I'm in a city. We
don't live anywhere yet, we don't have a house. We're
staying with her friend. And she was like, I don't
care where you go.
Speaker 1: Just you can come back.
Speaker 2: So I'll just never forget the feeling of walking down
the sidewalk.
Speaker 1: Well, first I grab some snacks.
Speaker 2: Because I was like, I didn't have any money right right, well,
hadn't even worked yet at that point, I did not
have a dime to my name. My mother did not care.
My stepfather already hated me, so he was like, fucking
that's child The door hit. Yeah, that's horrible. It is
child abuse. So I was walking on the sidewalk. I'll
just never forget walking and I was like, okay, that's it.
Like I've got nobody. I don't know how I'm going
to eat, or where I'm going to sleep, or what
I'm going to do. But I knew my mom meant
absolute business. Like my mom, and it was at that
moment that I was like I only have myself right,
and I'm going to have to figure it out and
I'm going to always have to work and I'm gonna
have to because in my mind though, I was like,
I'm too like I'm not a street kid. I can't
just go be a hooker.
Speaker 1: Yeah I know, I know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I can't Like even though you had the boobs for it,
I had the boobs for it.
Speaker 1: But like you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: I was like, I can't even get myself sex trafficked,
and what am I going to do? Like, I'm not
going to get I don't even have bus fare to
get on a bus to Hollywood so that I could
get off at a bus station and have some guy
try to like tring me out as a hooker. Obviously
I was a virgin anyway, but I'm like, what am
I going to do? So I went and the only
thing I could think of doing was calling my aunt
collect So I walked to like this and I was like,
should I just go to the police, like turn myself in. No,
I don't have anywhere to go. Then my thought was,
then they're going to go to my going to go
to my mom and say, like you got to take
her back, and I was like, she's not going to
or she'll pretend and then kick me out again. So
I was like, okay, I'm gonna call my aunt.
Speaker 3: There was homeless shelters ided, that's where I ended her teenagers,
that's where I ended up. Wow.
Speaker 1: So I went to the grocery. Your aunt didn't take it.
Speaker 2: My aunt would not pick me up. So my aunt
is your new jersey. I was like, can you send?
Is she your mom's sister, my mother's sister.
Speaker 1: She didn't want to get involved. Oh my god, what
is with your family?
Speaker 2: So yeah, and I never This is why I'm not
close to even my relatives like that. This is why
I'm not close to my cousins, the aunt and uncle,
because they didn't believe what was going on in my
house because my mom told them a different story. So
so I called my aunt collect and then I was
like crying, and I go, I don't have anywhere to go.
Can you like, I don't know, Like can I come
to you? And she was like no, I can't get
in between, Like that's my that's my sister. I can't
I can't get involved. I can't get in between that.
Speaker 1: But then she offer like, hey, how about I help you.
Speaker 2: She thought that that was she thought we were just
in I was just having a fight with my mom.
Speaker 1: My God.
Speaker 2: So some girl I had met at the Jewish community
center at the swimming pool was happened to pull up
into this and was like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: Stephanie, you know.
Speaker 2: And I was crying and I told her what happened,
and she was like, Okay, I have a friend whose
parents are out of town.
Speaker 1: You can come stay with her. So I was like okay.
Speaker 2: So she brings me to this girl's house that I
don't know, and I sleep there for the night, and
then the girl the next day was like, I mean,
you can't just like live here, and I was like,
I know. So I called my mother and I was
like She answered the phone and she was super cold.
Speaker 1: She didn't care where i'd been the night before. She
knew it.
Speaker 2: I didn't know anybody in the town. I'd only lived there.
I'd only been there like two weeks. So she said, okay,
I have I'm going to send you to the I'm
gonna there's a place that will take you.
Speaker 1: Your mother has a fucking severe personality no offense disorder.
Speaker 2: And then she said, but you can't go. They can't
take you until tomorrow, and you can't come in the house,
so you can sleep in the car. So I saw
in the car with the door. Yeah, wow, had the
dog sleeping in the car too. She's not that nice.
So I slept in the car and then the next
day she drove me and I stayed at this runaway
shelter for a couple of weeks, and then the runaway
shelter was like, she's not a runaway, Like, by law,
you can't just abandon. You have to take her right wow,
or she becomes a word in the state or something.
So she begrudgingly like took me back. And then I
lived with them for an o like two years, and
then I got the fuck.
Speaker 1: Out of there. That's fucking traumatizing.
Speaker 3: I remember you telling this story about being at this
at the shelter, but I forgot about the whole because I.
Speaker 2: Made it kind of funny because I was like, not
really a runaway. So I show up that summer I'd
stayed with my father and his new young wife who
was like twenty four, and she took me shopping at
fred Siegel and I got like this, like a little like.
Speaker 1: A sailor yeah, fit like a little squirt yeah.
Speaker 2: And a cute little sailor top and like some very
expensive sunglasses.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So these were like the clothes I had.
Speaker 2: So I roll up to like runaway shelter, like's pretty cute,
you know, And the kids were like.
Speaker 1: The fuck, oh my god. So they weren't.
Speaker 2: Super excepting right away, and then of course I was like,
we've got a this is ridiculous. They're not letting you
watch TV like you've gotten your chores done, like you're
you're you didn't commit any crime, right, And I was
like writing letters and like you know, wow, you could
wait to get rid of it.
Speaker 3: So now like you would think, now, no wonder why
you didn't know if you wanted to have kids, you know, Like, well.
Speaker 2: I just remember, like I said, that was like before
and after I was like, that's true. If I can
survive like just being thried like you my regular seeming parents. Yeah,
keep in mind I hadn't really done anything like I'm saying.
I wasn't like the greatest kid, but at this point
I wasn't like an alcoholic, I wasn't a drug addict.
I wasn't shop leeping, around or sleeping around. I was
like getting good grades. Yeah at that point anyway, whatever,
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but yeah, I just feel like.
Speaker 2: You can't go back to the innocence of Like I
got a little hardened by that experience and then was
always like I.
Speaker 1: Gotta be scrappy. I got to look out for myself.
Speaker 3: I wasn't just a experience that was that was being
that you were traumatized like that something that was.
Speaker 1: That was definitely a trauma.
Speaker 3: I mean, I bet a lot of people I think
that are listening if they think about friends that they
grew up with in the past, and you would think like, wow,
they're never they're not going to turn out to if
you ask them back then. But now you're still friends
with them, and you see what great parents they are,
great husbands or wives they'd become, and you're like, well,
I would have never thought that they would have been,
you know, that way or could have gone the other way.
Speaker 2: I think that if had I been maybe like spoiled
or I don't know, but yeah, I think the scrappiness
came from that. Yeah, I still I feel I don't
remember having a lot of anxiety as a young kid.
So the anxiousness I think came from the feeling of
like being you're being taken care of and then somehow
and I feel like you can relate to this too.
I feel like I've always attracted people to me, and
not so much as an older adult the friends I've made,
but I always attracted people to me that like needed
a mom, especially when I was younger. Yeah, Like I
became the one that somehow, even though in my mind
I felt very irresponsible, but I had to be responsible.
Speaker 1: I had to. I was the one who had to take.
Speaker 2: Care of shit, who like made sure that I had
car insurance and that I like even though in my
early twenties I was a mess and I couldn't I
was getting parking tickets and all the same. But as
I got older, I was the one. Like then I
was the one who was like, we need groceries, yeah,
right right, And people would be like what, like.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, when I had lived with my roommates, yeah,
it's definitely like that was more of my in my thirties,
I guess, or later twenties, when you start to really
go like, okay, I'm an adult, now I'm renting, I
have a real job. Now I got to keep up
on my parking tickets or my you know, health insurance
or parking or car insurance whatever, then that changes. But
in my in my late teens and early twenties, I was, yeah,
I'd have Dawn show me how to balance a checkbook.
I did not know how to balance a checkbook and
she came over and I still I kept that checkbook forever.
That's when I was a bud like girl.
Speaker 1: Right, right, Well we were always broke, right, so what
was there to balance?
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: It was not real lucky. I mean I was lucky
if I could pay my rent every month?
Speaker 3: Right, And didn't you have more jobs that were cash right,
like yeah, tips and stuff or no?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah. I waited tables a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was scared to wait tables because I didn't feel
like I could. I didn't want to do anything with
the cash register. I didn't want to like take people's
money and then give them back the change, because I
don't think that fast with numbers. You are good with that,
especially being a poker player.
Speaker 1: So I was.
Speaker 3: Always like I got to find a job or like
when I worked at the preschool, you know, I was
like I had a nine to five job and you know,
I don't have to deal with cash.
Speaker 2: But didn't you get frustrated that you weren't making a
lot of money? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah.
Speaker 3: I was like I wanted a car with a window
in the back. The car was my window was busted
and I just drove around.
Speaker 1: But I couldn't have. I didn't have enough money to
get it fixed.
Speaker 3: It was around the time where my dad was like, Okay,
time to like figure out what you want to do.
Get a resume, start sending it to the production companies.
And then once I got a job in production in
the entertainment business, that's when I was like, okay, I
got it. Now four one K and shit like what
the hell is that? Or now I got to like
do my W two forms, Like who's going to show.
Speaker 1: Me how to do that? Shit?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: I always had to ask somebody like hey, like one
of the co workers, you know, right right? So when
I was in my early so, I was always asking
other people, but.
Speaker 1: Well, could you go to your dad for stuff?
Speaker 3: Because I'm yeah, my dad mom, not my mom. My
dad would help me. But when I was at work
and I didn't know how to do something, like they
gave it to me.
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 3: I always found like an older lady in the office
that became like my mom. There was one, there was
two of them, Kathy and Diane. I'm still friends with
them on Facebook. And they were like the mothers in
the office. So I'd go like, hey, how do you
do when computers came on board and it was all
orange on the screen and it was doss and shit
and floppy discs. I was like, to get the job.
I was like, yeah, yeah, I know how to do that.
I know how to do word. And I was like, no,
I don't, No, I don't. And I had to go
sit with like Kathy McMahon in the kitchen one night
and she showed me how to do it, you know,
like I just figured it out.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean come a long way.
Speaker 2: I've always been attracted to older kind women. Yes, you know,
anytime I had a therapist, I always wanted Some of
my friends would have therapists that were like our age,
and I feel that's weird.
Speaker 1: No, no, no.
Speaker 2: I want somebody who's at least like twenty years older
than me. Yeah, I've been through some shit. Yeah, and
like you know, it's like a mom figure. I remember,
excuse me, my therapist. That was the hippie that looked
like Diane, that actress. She was eaten, yes, but and
she would talk about sex and like free, like she
was very hippie, dippy and she yeah, she was like
in her older sixties, early seventies. And then she was
Gina Kimmel's therapist, and we both noticed that she started
falling asleep right she started like snoring in the middle
of a session.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine how that would feel. She was a Buddhist.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she would sit, you know, she would sit with
her two feet planted on the floor and her seat
and her palms on the top of her legs, on
her thighs, you know, like sitting up straight. Towards the end,
she'd like slump down and her like head would start
nodding off.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: Eventually we're like, okay, but I still follow her on Instagram.
Speaker 1: She still asks how I'm doing well. You were still
seeing her a little bit over zoom. I did. After
she moved, she moved out of the state. I saw
her over zoom and then.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was I wanted then I went to somebody
in person, so I wanted to go in person. Now
I need to find another therapist.
Speaker 1: Actually probably, I mean my kids love at first.
Speaker 2: I remember I took Xander to a therapist in person.
It was right before COVID, and then COVID shut everything
down and that woman ghosted us a lot. Yeah, I
kept texting her and going, uh, because Xander really liked
you like, can you see him? And she never ever
got back to me again. She did it to my
other friend too, who was way madder than I was
because her it had seen this person a few times
all it's bullshit, and she kind of specialized in what
we were going through. So I was really really not
happy with that. And then all you could find was
people that would see them online. So I was like,
this is all we can do right now. And now,
I mean Xanders had the same therapist for years and
he loves them same and he had my kids probably
loves it at Zoom. Yeah, my kids too, same and
they've had the same this therapist in person.
Speaker 1: Oh I don't think my kids have either.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I think he's been going to him for like five years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my kids too have been going to the same
woman for a couple of years now. They had Brittany,
remember her. Yeah, fucking Britney bitch. She was the worst.
Speaker 1: Even my kids came.
Speaker 3: Up on their own like Britney's not doing it for us,
like because I never told them my problems with Britney,
but they came they were like, can we find another therapist?
And yeah, they've been with her. She's great, She's awesome.
Speaker 1: So that's good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I asked other stories.
Speaker 1: I'll save it for Friday.
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